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EVENING EVERYONE. I WOULD LIKE TO ADMINISTRATIVELY CALL TO ORDER THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE INDIANTOWN VILLAGE COUNCIL. AUGUST 27TH, 2026. IT IS 6:02 P.M. PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME FOR OUR INVOCATION GIVEN BY PASTOR RICK WILLIAMS. AND PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN, WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT WAS POURED UPON US, THAT WE HAVE THIS VENUE TO MEET, AND WE HAVE A FINE, FINE FACILITY THAT WE CAN GATHER TOGETHER AS CONCERNED CITIZENS AND HELP INDIAN TOWN CONTINUE TO BE A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE AND TO GROW. WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN OUR LEADERSHIP POSITIONS, THAT THEY WERE GREAT FOR THE HARD WORK THEY DO, AND WE PRAY THEY'LL BE INSPIRED TO TO HELP MOVE FORWARD AND THAT WE CAN FIND A COMMON GROUND. WE PRAY THAT CONTENT WILL NOT BE HERE, AND THAT WE WILL FIND WAYS TO WORK TOGETHER, THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE INDIAN TOWN A GREAT PLACE. WE ASK AGAIN THAT THY SPIRIT DWELL HERE WITH US. A SPIRIT OF THANKSGIVING AND A SPIRIT OF COOPERATION AND LOVE. AND THIS WE PRAY IN JESUS NAME.
AMEN. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING. OUR VERY FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS BEFORE WE MOVE ON WITH THE AGENDA, IS THE SWEARING IN OF TWO OF OUR NEWLY ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTA MILEY THOUGHT SOMEONE WAS GOING TO CLAP. SO WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF CLAPPING HERE MOMENTARILY, AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO. AND COUNCIL MEMBER ANTHONY DOWLING. AND JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, NEWLY ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBER JANET HERNANDEZ HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE SWORN IN ON TUESDAY BECAUSE SHE'S TRAVELING IN TRAVEL. SHE ALREADY HAD ARRANGED ABOUT A YEAR AGO. SO SHE'S GOING TO BE JOINING US BY ZOOM TONIGHT. SO I WOULD ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS CHRISTA MILEY AND COUNCIL MEMBER ANTHONY DOWLING TO PLEASE STEP FORWARD. AND ACTUALLY, PLEASE, FIRST COUNCIL MEMBER CRYSTAL MILEY, IF YOU COULD STEP FORWARD AND I WOULD ASK COMMISSIONER POOLE TO PLEASE STEP FORWARD. AND SIR, DO YOU HAVE THE WHAT YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO SWEAR HER IN. ALL RIGHT.
FANTASTIC. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
PLACE YOUR LEFT HAND ON THE BIBLE AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME. I, CHRISTA, MILLY, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT, HONOR, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THAT I AM DULY QUALIFIED TO HOLD OFFICE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND UNDER THE CHARTER OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, AND THAT I WILL. WELL AND FAITHFULLY WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY PERFORM THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, PERFORMING THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF COUNCIL MEMBER, UPON WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER, UPON WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER. SO HELP ME GOD. CONGRATULATIONS.
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COUNCIL MEMBER DOWLING, IF YOU COULD PLEASE STEP FORWARD.GREAT. ALRIGHT, COUNCIL, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. REPEAT AFTER ME. I ANTHONY DOWLING. I, ANTHONY DOWLING, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT. SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT, HONOR, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES. GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THAT I AM DULY QUALIFIED TO HOLD OFFICE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND UNDER THE CHARTER OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, UNDER THE CHARTER OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY.
THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY PERFORM THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF. VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN COUNCIL, MEMBER OF THE OFFICE OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER UPON WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER, IN WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER. SO HELP ME GOD, SO HELP ME GOD.
ALL RIGHT. NOW I UNDERSTAND OUR TWO NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WERE JUST SWORN IN, ARE GOING TO BE RESERVING THEIR COMMENTS TO COMMENTS BY VILLAGE COUNCIL
[SELECTION OF MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR, PURSUANT TO SECTION 4(3)(A)&(B) OF THE VILLAGE CHARTER]
MEMBER TIME. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL PROCEED ON TO YOUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. THE NEXT ITEM THAT IS IN ORDER IS FIRST, THE SELECTION OF MAYOR AND THEN SELECTION OF VICE MAYOR.PURSUANT TO SECTION FOUR, THREE OF THE VILLAGE CHARTER. PER THE PAST PRACTICE OF THE VILLAGE, I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP TO THE COUNCIL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE OFFICE OF MAYOR FOR THE YEAR. I DON'T HAVE ANY INDICATION WHO RANG THAT FIRST. I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE COUNCIL MEMBER. TURN ON THE MIC UP HERE. YEAH. NO, SORRY. YEAH. UP, UP ON THE RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.
OKAY. IT'S BEEN A MINUTE. I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE THE VICE MAYOR, PHYLLIS BROWN, AS MAYOR OF VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. OKAY, I SECOND. OH, DO WE NEED A SECOND? YOU DON'T NEED SECONDS FOR NOMINATIONS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? HEARING NONE. THEN I WILL CLOSE NOMINATIONS.
AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO NAME COUNCIL MEMBER. I DO HAVE. I'M SO VERY SORRY.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. YES, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE CHRISTA MILEY AS MAYOR. OKAY, WE HAVE TWO NOMINATIONS ON THE FLOOR. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER NOMINATIONS? HEARING NONE. WE
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WILL CLOSE NOMINATIONS. AND THE WAY WE HAVE HISTORICALLY PROCEEDED IS IN TWO PARTS, WITH TWO NOMINEES. WE ARE GOING TO CALL THE ROLL AND ASK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PLEASE NAME THEIR PREFERENCE, AND THEN WHOEVER THEN COMES BACK WITH A MAJORITY AMONG THOSE. IT WILL THEN BE IN ORDER TO HAVE A MOTION TO NAME THAT PERSON WHO HAD THE MAJORITY AS MAYOR, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE A VOTE. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS PALMER, VICE MAYOR PHYLLIS BROWN. COUNCILMEMBER MILEY, VICE MAYOR PHYLLIS BROWN, COUNCILMEMBER WATERS BROWN, SORRY, VICE MAYOR, MYSELF, COUNCILMEMBER DARLING, THE VICE MAYOR BROWN AND COUNCILMEMBER HERNANDEZ. YES. CRYSTAL. MILEY, ALL RIGHT. THE.IT BEING FOUR ONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO NAME COUNCILMEMBER PHYLLIS WATERS BROWN AS MAYOR. VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN FOR THE YEAR. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE MOTION FOR PHYLLIS BROWN TO BE THE MAYOR OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I I ANY OPPOSED NAY. I. COUNCILMEMBER, WAS THAT AN I OR AN A ON THE MOTION? I. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. IT IS UNANIMOUS, MAYOR.
CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. BEFORE I TURN IT OVER, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO ADMINISTER THE THE NOMINEE OR THE SELECTION OF VICE MAYOR, I'D BE GLAD TO THANK YOU. SO AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE OFFICE OF VICE MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER MILLER. I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE MYSELF. WE HAVE ONE NOMINATION. ANY FURTHER NOMINATIONS? I DON'T KNOW WHERE MY BUTTON IS. NO, THIS IS THE MIC. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ONE. I NOMINATE BERNSTEIN. PALMER. WE HAVE NOMINATION FOR COUNCILMEMBER KRISTEN MILEY. WE HAVE A NOMINATION FOR COUNCILMEMBER BERNSTEIN. PALMER. ANY FURTHER NOMINATIONS? HEARING NONE.
WE'LL CLOSE NOMINATIONS. AND I WILL ASK ONCE AGAIN THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. COUNCILMEMBER WATERS. I'M SORRY. WILLIAMS. PALMER. BERNSTEIN. PALMER. COUNCILMEMBER. MILEY. KRISTEN.
MILEY. MAYOR. WATERS. BROWN. MISSUS. PALMER. COUNCILMEMBER. DARLING. COUNCILMEMBER. MILEY.
COUNCILMEMBER. HERNANDEZ. COUNCILMEMBER. MILEY. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER MILEY HAVING THE MAJORITY. IT'LL BE IN ORDER. NOW. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO NAME COUNCILMEMBER KRISTEN MILEY AS VICE MAYOR FOR THE YEAR. I MAKE THE MOTION MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I I ANY OPPOSED? NAY. I WE HAVE THAT DOWN AS FIVE EYES AND IT IS UNANIMOUS. VICE MAYOR. CONGRATULATIONS. AND WE'LL TAKE JUST A SECOND TO DO A LITTLE SWAP OUT. WHAT I'VE ALWAYS WANTED. IS IT OKAY IF EVERYONE STAY WHERE THEY ARE? I GUESS IT WOULD BE. YEAH. AND MAYOR, THAT IS ALL FOR ME RIGHT NOW. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. OUR NEXT ITEM IS ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, PULLED ITEMS, OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS. MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY DELETIONS OR PULLED ITEMS? NO, MA'AM. NOW WE'RE READY FOR PROCLAMATIONS. PRIOR TO THAT. MADAM MAYOR, MAY WE HAVE YOUR HOUSE REPRESENTATIVE JOHN SNYDER HERE? IF HE COULD MAKE SOME COMMENTS PRIOR TO. YEAH. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. GOOD TO BE HERE THIS EVENING. I KNOW
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WE'VE GOT A PACKED HOUSE, SO I'LL BE QUICK. BUT PURPOSE OF BEING HERE TONIGHT WAS FIRST AND FOREMOST IS TO CONGRATULATE THE NEWLY ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS. I KNOW CAMPAIGNS CAN BE GRUELING AND OFTENTIMES HAVE A POTENTIAL TO BE DIVISIVE, BUT NOW THAT THAT'S BEHIND US, CERTAINLY FROM THE STATE'S PERSPECTIVE, I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING SOME OF THE GREAT WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO TOGETHER. FIRST OF ALL, VICE MAYOR MILEY, LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING YOU AND GETTING TO WORK WITH YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER DOWLING, WELCOME BACK. IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. AS A FELLOW VETERAN, I KNOW WE HAVE A DEEP APPRECIATION FOR JUST GETTING AFTER IT AND STAYING TO THE MISSION. AND COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ, WHEREVER YOU ARE, AGAIN, GREAT TO WORK WITH YOU AGAIN AND EXCITED TO. SEE WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS HERE FOR INDIANTOWN. SO WHILE INDIANTOWN MIGHT BE THE NEWEST MUNICIPALITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, IT HAS COME AN AWFUL LONG WAY IN IN, I GUESS WHAT, NINE SHORT YEARS AND THROUGHOUT MY TIME AS BEING THE REPRESENTATIVE AND HAVING THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING FOR OUR SHARED CONSTITUENTS, THE PEOPLE OF INDIANTOWN PROUD TO REPORT THAT TOGETHER WITH THE HELP OF THIS COUNCIL STAFF AND A LOT OF INPUT FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BRING BACK SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS, WELL OVER $100 MILLION IN STATE FUNDING, TO CONTINUE TO RAISE OUR OUR SCHOOLS, BRINGING NEW OPTIONS HERE FOR PARENTS, ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, WATER PLANT UPGRADES, FIRE STATION OVERHAUL.BUT WHAT I CALL THAT IS A GOOD START. AND SO AS THIS NEW TERM COMMENCES WITH THE NEW MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE CONTINUE TO STAY IN TOUCH WITH MY OFFICE SO WE CAN, AGAIN, WORK ON BEHALF OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO.
STATE ROAD 710. WIDENING AND GETTING THAT EXPEDITED CONTINUES TO BE A PRIORITY.
TRYING TO BRING HOME EVERY DOLLAR WE CAN FROM TALLAHASSEE TO TO BEEF UP INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAKE QUALITY OF LIFE A PRIORITY FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS. PLEASE COUNT ON ME TO CONTINUE THAT EFFORT. AND TO THOSE IN THE PUBLIC, IF YOU HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO MEET, MY OFFICE IS IN PALM CITY OR YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL. WE KEEP OUR OFFICE HOURS OPEN 830 TO 5. SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO BE OF SERVICE. BUT AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW COUNCIL. EXCITED TO SEE THE BRIGHT DAYS AHEAD FOR INDIANTOWN AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU. MADAM CLERK. CAN WE DO THE PROCLAMATION FOR TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK? ONE
[ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, PULLED ITEMS OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS]
SECOND. MADAM MAYOR, I, I WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING TO THE ADDITIONS, DELETIONS AND THE ITEMS. THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO ADD IS IF WE CAN HAVE STAFF TO PRODUCE ALL PERSONNEL CONTRACTS FOR THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN STAFF AND SERVICES. AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET A GENERAL SENSE OF ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE CURRENTLY, AND THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN THE LAST 60 DAYS, AND THAT WILL PLAN TO TAKE PLACE IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS. AND SO IF WE COULD JUST, MADAM MAYOR, IF THAT'S IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU, JUST ADD THOSE TWO TO THE ADDITIONS. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. ANY ADDITIONS? I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TABLE SOME ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. PLEASE. I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING CONTINUING CONTINUING SERVICE CONSULTANT AGREEMENTS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND I'M SORRY. AND ALSO THE INDIAN TOWN COMMUNITY TRUST FUND. WHAT WAS THE FIRST ONE YOU ASKED TO BE TABLED? THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES AGREEMENT. THAT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. YES. AND YOUR SECOND? THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE THE INDIAN TOWN COMMUNITY TRUST FUND. MAYOR, PLEASE. IN ORDER TO TABLE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA, I WOULD RECOMMEND WE'RE GOING TO NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND. SO I WOULD SUGGEST YOU TAKE THAT AS A MOTION, SEE IF THERE'S A SECOND AND YOU CAN PROCEED. FOR THE[00:20:01]
FIRST ONE. SHE WANTED TO TABLE THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING. DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? IT FAILED DUE TO A SECOND. SO WE'LL HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. THE SECOND ONE WANTED TO BE TABLE WAS THE TRUST FUND. DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? IT FAILED DUE TO A SECOND. WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT TONIGHT. ANY MORE ADDITIONS? DELETIONS. MADAM CLERK CAN DO[TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK IN RECOGNITION OF HUNGER ACTION MONTH]
THE PROCLAMATION, PLEASE. YES, MA'AM. PROCLAMATION FOR HUNGER ACTION MONTH. WHEREAS HUNGER AND POVERTY REMAINS ISSUES OF GRAVE CONCERN IN THE UNITED STATES, THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND ON THE TREASURE COAST WITH 250 000 CHILDREN, ADULTS, SENIORS AND VETERANS EXPERIENCING FOOD INSECURITIES ON A WEEKLY BASIS. AND WHEREAS, THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN IS COMMITTED TO TAKING STEPS TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THE NEED TO END HUNGER IN EVERY PART OF OUR VILLAGE AND TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT THE CITIZENS OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN NEEDS. AND WHEREAS, THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN IS COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK AND MOBILIZING PEOPLE AROUND ABOUT THE ROLE AND IMPORTANCE OF FOOD BANKS AND OTHER HUNGER RELIEF ORGANIZATIONS IN ADDRESSING HUNGER AND BRINGING ATTENTION TO THE NEED TO DEVOTE MORE RESOURCES AND ATTENTION TO HUNGER ISSUES. WHEREAS, FOOD BANKS AND HUNGER RELIEF ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING THE TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK, COORDINATED HUNGER ACTION DAY ON SEPTEMBER 29TH AND WILL CONTINUE TO HOST NUMEROUS EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER TO SHED LIGHT ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE, AND WE ENCOURAGE THE INVOLVEMENT IN EFFORTS TO END HUNGER IN LOCAL COMMUNITIES NOW.THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN DOES HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER AS HUNGER ACTION MONTH AND CALL THIS OBSERVANCE TO ALL ATTENTION OF ALL OF OUR CITIZENS. YES, MA'AM. PLEASE. WHO'S COMING UP? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK FIRST? YOU CAN STEP UP TO THE PODIUM. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS PENNY. PULL IT DOWN TOWARD YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE. THERE YOU GO. YEAH. HI. I'M PENNY ON BEHALF OF THE TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK.
THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING SEPTEMBER AS HUNGRY ACTION MONTH. THIS YEAR'S THEME ASSEMBLY REQUIRED REMINDS US THAT ENDING HUNGER TAKES ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER. EVERY INDIVIDUAL, BUSINESS, ORGANIZATION, AND COMMUNITY PARTNER HAS A ROLE TO PLAY IN HELPING ENSURING OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE ACCESS TO THE FOOD THEY NEED. WE ARE GRATEFUL TO THE CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY FOR STANDING WITH US IN THE FIGHT AGAINST HUNGER. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'M GONNA TAKE PHOTOS, STAND UP AND TAKE PHOTOS. YOU ALL WANT TO GO TAKE PHOTOS? NO. YES. ALL GO TO. LET'S ALL GO TO YES. YOU ALL COME. PLEASE COME OUT. LINED UP ON THIS?
[MARTIN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE UPDATE]
ONE. COUNTY RESCUE HAVE WITH US CHIEF SCOTT RISK. AND HE IS WE WE REALIZE THAT THERE HAD BEEN A PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE WEREN'T GETTING THESE UPDATES JUST BECAUSE I THINK THEY WERE GOING THROUGH A DIFFERENT SOFTWARE PROGRAM OF SOME SORT. WE REALIZED THAT THEY FELL OFF OUR CALENDAR. AND SO CHIEF RISK IS HERE TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF FIRE RESCUE ACTIVITIES. AWESOME. WELCOME, CHIEF. SO GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. AND FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS ON THE NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIALS TONIGHT. AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS MARTIN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE JUST OVERALL FOR YOU.AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS OUR ROLE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S A IT'S A LIFE SAVING ENDEAVOR. AND THAT'S OUR JOB. SO JUST TO TOUCH ON A
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COUPLE OF THINGS. SO I JUST DON'T WANT TO BOMBARD YOU GUYS WITH TOO MUCH CONFUSING INFORMATION. ALL THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE HERE TONIGHT, I WILL PROVIDE ELECTRONICALLY TO YOU. AND ALL OF IT'S PULLED FROM OUR REPORTING SOFTWARE OR FDOT.OKAY, SO JUST TO PROVIDE SOME MARTIN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE SERVICE AND RESPONSE OVERVIEW.
SO WHAT YOU SEE OUT HERE IN INDIAN TOWN IS STATION 24. YOU SEE THAT ONE STATION, BUT YOU'RE PART OF A ONE COUNTY WIDE RESPONSE SYSTEM. SO INDIAN TOWN IS NOT JUST SERVED BY STATION 24 ALONE. IT'S PART OF MARTIN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE COUNTYWIDE RESPONSE NETWORK WITH STATION 24 IS RESOURCES ARE COMMITTED TO AN INCIDENT. YOU HAVE THE BACKUP CAPABILITY OF ADDITIONAL MARTIN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE UNITS TO RESPOND OR MOVE INTO THE AREA TO MAINTAIN THAT COVERAGE, TO PROVIDE THAT LIFE SAVING MEASURE FOR YOU GUYS. SO THERE'S TWO MAIN KEY POINTS THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. AND ONE OF THEM IS TRAFFIC AND MOTOR VEHICLE CRASHES. AND THE OTHER ONE IS I'LL JUST TALK ABOUT IS BRUSH FIRE ACTIVITY. SO THE FIRST THING I'LL TALK ABOUT IS TRAFFIC AND MOTOR VEHICLE CRASHES. SO A LOT OF IT, AS YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD TONIGHT TALKING ABOUT THE THE BUSY ROADWAYS. SO I KNOW THIS IS A STAGGERING NUMBER. IT DOESN'T SOUND TRUE, BUT THERE'S 81,000 VEHICLE TRIPS DAILY THROUGH THIS INDIAN TOWN AREA. COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. IT'S AND WHEN I SAY THAT, IT MEANS LIKE ONE VEHICLE COMING THROUGH AND THEN COMING BACK, THAT'S TWO TRIPS. SO 81,000 DAILY TRIPS, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 12 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF THE VILLAGE POPULATION AT 6800, PROVIDED THE INFORMATION FROM THE CENSUS. SO AND THAT'S JUST NOW NOT ACCOUNTING FOR THE FUTURE GROWTH OF INDIAN TOWN. SO CURRENT YEAR TO DATE. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST OUT HERE, AS I WAS PULLING UP, WE HAD A MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT RIGHT OUT HERE ON WARFIELD BOULEVARD. SO YEAR TO DATE WE'RE AT APPROXIMATELY 60 MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS. THAT'S IF YOU TAKE A TREND OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS FROM JANUARY TO AUGUST, THAT'S A 104% ABOVE THE PREVIOUS FOUR YEAR AVERAGE, RIGHT? SO IT'S CONSTANTLY PULLING RESOURCES AWAY FROM STATION 24 TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, RESCUE MEASURES AND RESPONSES FOR THOSE MBAS. WITH THAT, OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE HAD OVER 100 PLUS TRAUMA ALERTS IN THE LAST THREE YEARS. AND THESE INCIDENTS ARE, YOU KNOW, REVOLVING CRITICALLY INJURED PATIENTS THAT MEET THE CRITERIA FOR RAPID TRANSPORT TO DESIGNATED TRAUMA CENTER. AND SO WHY DOES THAT MATTER? THE MOTOR VEHICLE CRASHES CAN REQUIRE MULTIPLE FIRE RESCUE UNITS, INCLUDING SUPPRESSION APPARATUS, ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT, RESCUE, SUPERVISORY PERSONNEL AND SPECIALIZED RESOURCES. AND SERIOUS INCIDENTS CAN QUICKLY COMMIT MUCH OF ALL OR ALL OF STATION 24 RESOURCES TO ONE INCIDENT.
RIGHT? SO IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE FURTHER WEST OR IN ANOTHER AREA OF INDIAN TOWN, THEY'RE ALREADY COMMITTED, YOU CAN PULL FROM ANOTHER AREA OF THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES TO MAKE SURE IT MATTERS. RIGHT. SO THE SECOND THING I'LL TALK ABOUT IS BRUSHFIRE ACTIVITY, RIGHT? SO BRUSHFIRE ACTIVITY IN AND AROUND THE INDIAN TOWN HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY OVER IN RECENT YEARS BECAUSE WE'VE ALL NOTICED HOW HOT IT IS, THE WEATHER PATTERNS COMING IN, LIGHTNING STRIKES, IT ALL STARTS TO BRUSH FIRES. SO TO DATE FROM 2026, WE'VE HAD 40 BRUSHFIRE RESPONSES, WHICH IS ROUGHLY I KNOW THIS IS CRAZY, BUT IT'S A 500% INCREASE COMPARED TO THAT OF THE ANNUAL AVERAGE FROM THE PREVIOUS THREE YEARS. RIGHT. SO TO TALK ABOUT FIRE RESCUE'S ROLE IN BRUSHFIRES, SO OUR FIRST PRIORITY IS LIFE SAFETY AND PROPERTY PROTECTION. SO UNTIL WE GET CONFIRMATION THAT NO RESIDENTS OR STRUCTURES ARE THREATENED, THESE THESE INCIDENTS REQUIRE AN AGGRESSIVE INITIAL RESPONSE. SO ONCE WE FIND OUT THAT THERE'S NO STRUCTURES IN DANGER, NO PEOPLE IN DANGER, WE CAN KIND OF SURROUND IT, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE SOME MORE OR SOME LIMITED RESOURCES. AND FORESTRY WILL BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, PLOW A LINE AROUND THE FIRE AREA AND WE CAN LEAVE, RIGHT? SO IT'S IMPORTANT. SO THE RESOURCE IMPACTS. SO STATION 24 HOUR DAILY STAFFING THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED TO YOU AS A RESIDENTS OUT HERE IN INDIAN TOWN IS APPROXIMATELY TEN PERSONNEL, WHICH IS UP FROM PREVIOUS YEARS. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 24 YEARS. SO BEFORE WE MIGHT HAVE EIGHT, WE MIGHT HAVE SIX, BUT NOW WE HAVE TEN, RIGHT. AND THAT INCLUDES SO WE HAVE SIX RESPONSE APPARATUS THERE AT THE STATION READY TO RESPOND. SO BRUSHFIRES PROPERTY ENDANGERMENT REQUIRES APPROXIMATELY 30 FIREFIGHTERS AND UP TO 24 APPARATUS AND RESOURCES TO PULL. SO BASICALLY WE'VE GOT A BIG BRUSHFIRE HERE. WE'RE PULLING FROM OTHER AREAS IN THE COUNTY. JUST THAT ONE STATION IS NOT ENOUGH TO PROVIDE ALL THE PROTECTION THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE RESIDENTS AND THE PROPERTIES. SO IT BECOMES A COUNTY WIDE OPERATIONAL RESPONSE, RIGHT? SO NOW LET ME TALK ABOUT CALL VOLUME TRENDS COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS THREE YEAR AVERAGE, THE OVERALL INDIAN TOWN CALL VOLUME HAS INCREASED 21%. AND THAT'S ALL TYPES OF CALLS, RIGHT? FIRE AND SERVICE RELATED CALLS HAVE GONE UP 168%. TRAUMA RELATED CALLS ARE UP 52%. BUT THE KEY HERE, THOUGH, IS THAT BECAUSE WE'VE INCREASED OUR STAFFING MODELS, THE OUTER ZONE MOVE UP COVERAGES ARE DOWN 16%. SO PREVIOUSLY, IF STATION 24 UNITS WERE COMMITTED, YOU WOULD GET TROPICAL FARMS COMING OUT HERE, WHICH TAKES 15 TO 20 MINUTES. AT TIMES WHEN WE CAN LEAVE A UNIT AVAILABLE OUT HERE READY TO RESPOND. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS OF INDIAN TOWN. RIGHT? SO FIRE AND SERVICE RELATED CALLS INCLUDE FIRE ALARMS AND FIRE RELATED INCIDENTS. AND THE DECREASE IN THE MOVE UP COVERAGE IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT REFLECTS A GREATER ABILITY TO KEEP STATION 24 RESOURCES AVAILABLE WITHIN THIS AREA.
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OKAY, SO AS WE LOOK AHEAD, SO I MENTIONED WE INCREASED OUR STAFFING. SO WE'RE ALWAYS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ADJUSTING OUR STAFFING MODELS, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARDS TO THE RECENT INCIDENTS OUT HERE AT FPNL. RIGHT. SO THERE'S BEEN SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCIDENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED OUT HERE THAT HAVE MADE US REEVALUATE OUR STAFFING AND OUR LEADERSHIP POSITIONS. SO WE'VE INCREASED OUR STAFFING OUT HERE TO PROVIDE ANOTHER CHIEF OFFICER AND ANOTHER EMS CAPTAIN, SO WE CAN HAVE THAT LEADERSHIP READILY AVAILABLE. OKAY. AND WE'LL CONSTANTLY DO THIS AS WE GO. BUT THIS IS JUST IMPORTANT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF INDIAN TOWN TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU GUYS ARE IMPORTANT, NO DIFFERENT THAN ANYBODY IN THE COUNTY, BUT BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH TIME IT TAKES FOR US TO GET OUT HERE, WE WANT TO LEAVE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO YOU FOLKS OUT HERE. OKAY, SO BRUSHFIRE READINESS, GOING BACK TO THAT, WE REVIEW THAT. WE TALK ABOUT APPARATUS POSITIONING, SEASONAL STAFFING NEEDS AND RESOURCE DEPLOYMENT. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, AS ALL THE GROWTH IS HAPPENING, OUR PRE-INCIDENT PLANNING IS BEING EXPANDED ALONGSIDE THE NEW COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, WITH INCREASED FOCUS ON WATER SUPPLY, EMERGENCY ACCESS APPARATUS PLACEMENT AND RESPONSE REQUIREMENTS FOR LARGER DEVELOPMENTS. AS MISS CRYSTAL POINTED OUT, WE HAVE A NEW SOFTWARE PROGRAM CALLED FIRST DEW WHERE WE CAN PLUG IN ALL OF THAT PRE-INCIDENT INFORMATION, AND WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO BEFORE WE ARRIVE ON SCENE.IT CAN BE A HOUSE. THERE'S A COMMUNITY CONNECT MODULE TO IT, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US AND ULTIMATELY FOR YOU GUYS, RIGHT? SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS LETTING ME RAMBLE ON. BUT THE KEY TAKEAWAY TODAY IS MARTIN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE. WE LOVE OUR RESIDENTS OUT HERE IN UNIONTOWN.
WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF, YOU KNOW, WORKING ALONGSIDE AND EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY. AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE CONTINUE TO EVOLVE, WE'RE GOING TO ADAPT OUR STAFFING, OUR DEPLOYMENT, AND OUR PLANNING AND SPECIALIZED RESPONSE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH AND THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS OF INDIAN TOWN. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? YES, SIR.
YES, MA'AM. CHIEF RISK. HOW MANY CALLS HAVE YOU HAD? DO YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR MAYBE THE MONTH OF JULY OR JUNE? I DON'T HAVE THAT OFFHAND, BUT I CAN. ANY INFORMATION LIKE THAT I CAN GET TO YOU FROM OUR REPORTING SYSTEM? I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU ELECTRONICALLY. OKAY. HOW ABOUT THE RESPONSE TIME? I KNOW FROM WHEN YOU GET A MEDICAL CALL OR WHEN YOU GET A CALL, WHAT IS THE RESPONSE TIME FROM STATION TO THERE? SO TYPICALLY, DEPENDING ON WHERE IT IS WITHIN THE, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE WE TRY TO HAVE AT LEAST 90% RESPONSE IN UNDER SEVEN MINUTES, RIGHT? SO THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE TRY TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WITHIN THAT PERIMETER. YOU KNOW, WE, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE SHOW UP AS FAST AS WE CAN BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THERE'S ANY CRITICAL, ANY ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, THAT WE CAN GET THEM TO THE APPROPRIATE FACILITY VERY FAST. AWESOME. I LIKE THAT TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING ALONGSIDE YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING. WE CAN GO NOW TO THE FISCAL YEAR
[Fiscal Year 2026-2027 (FY27) Budget Presentation and Discussion]
BUDGET PRESENTATION. YES. MR. FLORIO IS GOING TO BE DOING THAT PRESENTATION. I DIDN'T SEE HIM. I'M SURE HE'S LISTENING. HE JUST KNEW IT WAS A PACKED HOUSE. HE DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE UP MORE SPOTS.HEY, MIKE. SORRY, I WAS IN THE OVERFLOW ROOM. MIKE FLORIO, FINANCE DIRECTOR.
HOW ARE YOU? GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. COUNCIL, GOOD TO SEE YOU. TONIGHT WE HAVE OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP GOING THROUGH THE PROPOSED BUDGET. AND ALSO IN THIS PRESENTATION, I'M GOING TO BE RECAPPING SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DURING THIS FISCAL YEAR. I WANTED TO DO THAT PARTICULARLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION AND AWARENESS OF CERTAIN CONDITIONS. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY, WE'LL FLAG TIME NOW. OKAY. WHERE DO WE GO? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE IN OUR MEETING IN JULY, THE TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE WAS ESTABLISHED AT TO STAY LEVEL AT 1.8250 MILLS. THE TOTAL INCREASE IN REVENUE COMPARED TO PRIOR YEAR IS ESTIMATED AT 140 900 $0. THIS BUDGET, THE PROPOSED BUDGET WAS BASED ON THAT. THE WATER AND SEWER RATE INCREASES ARE ALSO BUILT INTO THIS BUDGET. BASED
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ON THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED BY COUNCIL IN 2024. PLANNING, ZONING BUILDING PERMIT FEES ARE CURRENTLY FLAT. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY INCREASES IN THAT UNTIL AT LEAST THE END OF THE YEAR, POSSIBLY EARLY NEXT YEAR. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT ANTICIPATING ANY CHANGE WITH THAT. PERSONNEL COSTS WE DO HAVE IN THERE A 2% MERIT AND 3% COLA AND INSURANCE COSTS ARE 2.7% OVER PRIOR YEAR. FLORIDA RETIREMENT CONTRIBUTIONS, A SMALL DECREASE THERE. AND ONE OTHER GOOD NEWS, I DIDN'T PUT IT IN THE SLIDE HERE AS FAR AS PROPERTY CASUALTY LIABILITY WORKER'S COMP, BUT WAS ABLE TO NEGOTIATE A DECREASE IN THAT BY ABOUT $40,000. SO THAT WAS A GOOD A GOOD. AND I THINK SOME OF THAT, FRANKLY, IS A FUNCTION OF THE CHANGES IN STATE LAW IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE THERE'S BEEN GREATER COMPETITION AND OPPORTUNITY FOR NEW, NEW CARRIERS TO COME INTO THE MARKET. AND THERE'S BEEN SOME RELIEF TO CARRIERS AS WELL. SO, OKAY, AS I DO EVERY YEAR AND AS A WHOLE VILLAGE ORGANIZATION AND MANAGEMENT TEAM DOES, WE'RE VERY THOROUGH AND COMPREHENSIVE IN OUR REVIEW AND APPROACH OF THE BUDGET. WE, YOU KNOW, WE REALIZE WE HAVE FINITE RESOURCES. WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO MANAGE THEM. I THINK THAT SHOWS IN OUR HISTORICAL BUDGET TRACK RECORD, WHERE WE TYPICALLY COME UNDER BUDGET AND SPENDING, AND WE USUALLY OVERPERFORM IN REVENUE.THAT'S A GOOD FORMULA. I WANT TO TRY TO CONTINUE THAT. WE DO LOOK AT CONTRACTS, TRY TO STREAMLINE SERVICES, NEGOTIATE THINGS FROM TIME TO TIME, POSSIBLY CHANGE VENDORS, WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO GET THE BEST VALUE FOR THE VILLAGE. THIS IS OUR BASE TRIAL BALANCE HERE. HIGH LEVEL 30,000 FOOT TOTAL REVENUE COLLECTION HERE. THIS THESE ARE THE MAJOR CATEGORIES AND HOW REVENUES ARE ITEMIZED AND BROKEN DOWN. YOU'LL SEE THE LARGEST NUMBER HERE IS INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUES AT 33 MILLION. ABOUT 32 PLUS MILLION OF THAT IS REVENUE FOR OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. SO WE'RE REALLY STARTING TO IN ONE OF OUR PROJECTS, KIND OF COMING DOWN THE FINISH LINE WITH OUR WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS OUT IN TERRA LAGO, WE'RE PROBABLY WITHIN SIX MONTHS OR LESS OF FINISHING THOSE PROJECTS AND ARE, OF COURSE, OUR REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER PLANT PROJECT IS REALLY OUR BIGGEST NOW, AND WE'RE HONESTLY JUST GETTING RAMPED UP WITH THAT ONE. SO THERE'S A LOT THAT WE'VE COLLECTED WITH IT, A LOT OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS GOING OUT THERE. WITH JUST THOSE TWO. WE HAVE MORE PLANNED WITH A STATE, STATE REVOLVING FUND AND SOME OTHER PROJECTS HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. OKAY. OUR TOTAL BREAKDOWN HERE TO SEE HOW IT IS. MOST OF THE BUDGET IS BASED ON ESSENTIALLY STATE GRANTS, INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUES AND CHARGES FOR SERVICES. MOST OF THAT IS UTILITY FUND, SOME INVESTMENT INCOME. I THINK WE'VE DONE WELL WITH INVESTMENT INCOME IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. AND BASIC ALLOCATIONS HERE FOR IMPACT FEES, LICENSES, PERMITS, FEES AND CHARGES. AND THOSE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY UP OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, PARTICULARLY BUILDING PERMIT FEES. OKAY. EXPENDITURE SIDE, YOU KIND OF SEE THE FLIP OF THE COIN THERE ON CAPITAL OUTLAY IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S AGAIN, MOST OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE SEEING WITH OUR TERRA LAGO AND REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER PLANT PROJECTS, GRANTS AND AIDS. THAT'S OUR REBATE BACK TO FPL. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WITH TANGIBLE PROPERTY AND THEN PERSONAL SERVICES AND TOTAL OPERATING EXPENDITURES FOR THE VILLAGE IN THIS TRIAL BALANCE VIEW. OKAY. AND HERE'S A PIE CHART THAT KIND OF SHOWS THAT DEBT SERVICE IS DOWN IN THE IN THE CURRENT PROPOSED BUDGET. THE BIGGEST REASON BEING IS, YOU KNOW, WE DID IN DECEMBER OF 2023, WE ISSUED A REVENUE LOAN, I SHOULD SAY, A COVENANT TO BUDGET AND APPROPRIATE CB, A LOAN FOR VILLAGE HALL, WHICH WE NOW OWN FREE AND CLEAR. WE HAD, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATED TO COUNCIL IN THE PAST THAT THAT THAT LOAN HAS BEEN PAID OFF IN FULL. SO THE ONLY DEBT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS UTILITY FUND DEBT. OKAY. HELLO. I'M TRYING TO SEE IS IT LOADING OR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HERE WHAT HAPPENED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S DOING. YEAH. I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. WELL. JOSH. YEAH.
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OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S GOOD SPOT. OKAY. I THINK WE COVERED THAT ONE THERE.GENERAL FUND HERE. THIS IS THE SAME VIEW THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT FOR THE VILLAGE WIDE ACTIVITY.
AGAIN GENERAL FUND TRIAL BALANCE HERE. MOST OF THE AD VALOREM TAX THERE AGAIN AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $137,000 FOR CURRENT YEAR BUILDING PERMIT FEES AND LICENSES. I'M A LITTLE CONSERVATIVE THERE. WE'RE GOING TO DO REALLY WELL THIS YEAR ABOUT ALMOST 1.25 MILLION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ACTIVITY WILL BE, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY EQUAL OR EXCEED WHAT'S BUDGETED, I'M SURE. AND AGAIN, WE DO HAVE SOME INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUES FOR GRANTS WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND AS WELL. AND ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, THAT'S AGAIN MOSTLY GRANT ACTIVITY. AND THEN WE HAVE THE MAJORITY OF OUR PERSONNEL COSTS FOR THE VILLAGE ARE IN GENERAL FUND. OKAY. OKAY.
I THINK THE INTERNET'S A LITTLE SLOW. I'LL SEE IF I CAN PUT A NEW CONTRACT WITH XFINITY IN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR. I'LL TRY THAT. OKAY. OKAY. THE PIE CHART HERE FOR GENERAL GOVERNMENT. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD THERE. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'S THE OVERALL BREAK OUT THERE FOR TOTAL GENERAL FUND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND DEBT. OKAY. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO REALLY, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE AND TALK ABOUT THIS, WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION THIS SUMMER REGARDING HISTORICAL PROPERTY VALUES AND IMPLICATIONS OF PROPERTY TAX REFORM THAT WILL BE ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SHOW FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT AND WHO HAVE NOT SEEN THIS BEFORE, THAT THERE HAS BEEN A VERY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PROPERTY VALUES AND PROPERTY VALUE INCREASES IN THE COUNTY VERSUS THE VILLAGE OF UNIONTOWN. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, GOING BACK TO FISCAL YEAR 2122 WITH THE 21 TAX ROLL GOING TO CURRENT YEAR.
AND THESE ARE CERTIFIED VALUES THROUGH OCTOBER OF 25. SO THE COUNTY IN THIS PERIOD OF TIME HAS INCREASED FROM 23 TO $39 BILLION IN TOTAL TAXABLE VALUE. THE VILLAGE HAS NOT BEEN CLOSE TO THAT. OF COURSE, OUR OVERALL INCREASE HAS BEEN ABOUT 15% RESIDENTIAL VALUES. WE'LL LOOK AT THOSE HAVE APPROXIMATED THE TOTAL 10 TO 15%. BUT MOST OF THAT INCREASE IS TANGIBLE PROPERTY. SO THAT IS REALLY THE THE CORNERSTONE AND HAS BEEN FOR A LONG TIME OF THE TAXABLE VALUES IN THE VILLAGE. THIS IS THE LEVY DISTRIBUTION OF THOSE TAXES. SO WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE GREEN BAR IS TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY, WHICH IS OVERWHELMINGLY THE LARGEST AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE. THE KIND OF GOLD YELLOW COLOR IS HOMESTEADED TAXES, DISTRIBUTIONS FROM HOMESTEADED PROPERTY. IT'S AGAIN, I THINK EVERY TIME I SEE THESE NUMBERS, IT'S REALLY KIND OF JUST I KIND OF TAKE A STEP BACK. BUT WE CURRENTLY COLLECT $69,000 IN AD VALOREM TAXES IN THE ENTIRE VILLAGE OF UNIONTOWN FOR ALL HOMESTEAD RESIDENTS, ALL HOMESTEADED RESIDENTS, 69,000 NON HOMESTEADED IS 183. SO THE SUM OF THOSE TWO IS TOTAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THERE'S A SMALL INCREMENTAL AMOUNT FOR, I THINK VACANT LOTS THAT WE DO COLLECT IN THERE AS WELL, BUT HOMESTEADED NON HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES. THAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT WE GET. AND COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL IS THAT GRAY BAR. AND AGAIN THERE'S BEEN SOME MOVEMENT THERE BUT VERY INCREMENTAL. MOST OF WHAT WE SEE HERE IN TERMS OF THE FLUCTUATION AND CHANGES IN VALUE YOU CAN SEE IS THE GREEN BAR THE TANGIBLE PROPERTY.
WE'VE HAD SOME UPS AND DOWNS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT'S MADE CERTAINLY BUDGETING VERY DIFFICULT. BUT THAT IS REALLY WHAT FRANKLY PAYS THE BILLS IS, IS A TANGIBLE PROPERTY TAX.
OKAY. THIS IS THE SAME INFORMATION BUT IN TABULAR FORMAT. AND I LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT HELPS YOU SEE THE PERCENTAGE BREAKOUT. SO FROM 2122 TO CURRENT YEAR, WE'VE GONE FROM
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86.7% OF THE ENTIRE TAXABLE LEVY DISTRIBUTION TO 83.7%. CURRENT YEAR IS TPP, THE HOMESTEADED VALUE IS UNDER 2%, GONE FROM ONE 4 TO 1 SIX, AND NON HOMESTEADED IS 4.2. SO YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AT REALLY LESS THAN 6% OF THE ENTIRE LEVY. DISTRIBUTION IS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. THAT'S A TOTAL AMOUNT. AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE JUST WE HAVE A VERY UNIQUE CONCENTRATION OF TANGIBLE PROPERTY IN THE VILLAGE THAT'S UNLIKE ANYONE ELSE. NOT THAT LONG AGO, MAYBE A FEW MONTHS AGO, THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES SENT US A TABLE OF WHAT THE. BASICALLY, THIS. FOR ALL CITIES IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND I THINK THERE'S 1 OR 2 CITIES IN ORANGE COUNTY OR CENTRAL FLORIDA THAT HAVE HIGH PERCENTAGES OF TPP LIKE WE DO, BUT NOBODY IS EVEN CLOSE TO US REALLY THERE. I THINK MAYBE 50, 60%. WE'RE AT 87, 83.7% IN CURRENT YEAR. MOST OTHER CITIES YOU'RE GOING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY THE HOMESTEAD RESIDENTIAL AMOUNT IS BETWEEN 35 AND 50%. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE AT 1.6%. SO A HUGE DIFFERENCE THERE. NEW CONSTRUCTION IS GAINING. I WILL TELL YOU, IN CURRENT YEAR, PROBABLY THE HIGHEST NEW CONSTRUCTION AMOUNT I'VE SEEN IN THE VILLAGE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. WE HAD ABOUT $49 MILLION IN NEW CONSTRUCTION, BUT WE DON'T GET THE BENEFIT OF THAT THIS YEAR. THAT WOULD BE NEXT YEAR. SO THAT'S A DEDUCTION ON THE DOCTOR FOR 20. BUT AGAIN, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH PROPERTY TAX REFORM IN NOVEMBER, WE MAY NOT SEE ALL OF THAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE CAVEAT WITH IT. SO AGAIN NEW CONSTRUCTION IS HAPPENING. WE SEE IT. THERE'S COMMERCIAL IN THE VILLAGE AS WELL. BUT THESE THIS IS THE IMBALANCE THAT WE HAVE. AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. OKAY. THIS IS A TABLE HERE TO SHOW YOU. THIS CAME FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE. THIS IS A DISTRIBUTION OF THE TOTAL IMPACT ON THE COUNTY IN ALL MUNICIPALITIES IN MARTIN COUNTY OF AS YOU UNDERSTAND, THERE'S TWO PHASES FOR THE PROPERTY TAX REFORM THAT'S ON THE BALLOT. PHASE ONE WOULD BE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A $150,000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FOR THOSE WHO QUALIFY. AGAIN, NOT EVERYONE MAY QUALIFY FOR THAT DEPENDS ON WHAT THEIR RESIDENCY STATUS IS. AS OF DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR, PHASE TWO WOULD BE A $250,000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IN THE VILLAGE. SO THE COUNTY OVERALL IS LOOKING AT A $50 MILLION LOSS IN AD VALOREM REVENUE BY THE END OF PHASE TWO. FIRE RESCUE. WE JUST HAD A GREAT PRESENTATION BEFORE. THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALMOST 18 MILLION IMPACT IN THE MSTU CITY. STEWART. PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AS WELL. AND THEN DOWN THE LINE HERE WITH JUNIPER ISLAND, SEWELL'S POINT AND THEN THE VILLAGE HERE ARE AGAIN, WE WE WILL LIKELY IF THIS IF YOU KNOW, IF THE REFERENDUM PASSES BY YEAR TWO, WE WOULD HAVE A $78,000 REDUCTION IN AD VALOREM TAXES, WHICH IS FOR US IS SIGNIFICANT. BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE NEAR AS FAR TO FALL, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF WHERE WHERE WE ARE IN RELATION TO THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND OF COURSE, MARTIN COUNTY. SO BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. IF THE REFERENDUM PASSES. OKAY, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER GRAPH SHOWING WHERE WE ARE WITH TOTAL DISTRIBUTION. AGAIN, THESE ARE NUMBERS FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE SHOWING US WHAT OUR TAX LEVY WAS FOR LAST YEAR, AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD DROP TO BY FISCAL YEAR 28 WITH THAT IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE THOSE PROPERTY TAX HOMESTEADED EXEMPTIONS, IF IF THEY PASS IN THE REFERENDUM IN NOVEMBER. OKAY. SO THIS IS A PIE CHART HERE. AND I KIND OF WANTED TO JUST EXPLAIN THIS HERE. SO THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE IN THE VILLAGE CURRENTLY WITH TOTAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS OF 1095 UNITS THAT ARE RECEIVING EXEMPTIONS.AND SO WHAT, WHAT WE DID WITH THE DATA WE GOT FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE IS WE LOOKED AT THIS AND WE SAID, SO HOW MANY HOMES AND RESIDENTIAL UNITS WOULD ESSENTIALLY FALL OFF THE TABLE FOR US IN PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE EXEMPTIONS. AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS ALMOST 80%, 851 OF THOSE UNITS WOULD BE BELOW THE 150,000 THRESHOLD FOR TAX FOR TAXABLE VALUE. THEIR CURRENT ESTIMATED VALUE RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT $55,000. THERE'S SOME, OF COURSE, MORE AND LESS, BUT THAT'S THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT A 90 TO $100 A YEAR ON AVERAGE TAXES THAT THEY PAY TO THE VILLAGE. AND SO THAT WOULD BE PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO. WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING AT HERE, I DIDN'T PUT THAT ON THE CHART HERE. THERE'S 240 UNITS REMAINING, I BELIEVE VILLAGE MANAGER. AND I LOOKED AT THIS
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AND IT WAS APPROXIMATELY 124 UNITS THAT WOULD BE LEFT ON THE TAX ROLL AFTER PHASE TWO OF PROPERTY TAX REFORM. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE HOW LITTLE WE HAVE NOW. THOSE NUMBERS WOULD DWINDLE EVEN LOWER AFTER THAT. SO. I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS GRAPH HERE BECAUSE THIS IS I THINK IS AN IMPORTANT CONCEPT TO KEEP IN MIND. AND YOU KNOW, NUMBERS DON'T LIE. AND I THINK PICTURES SAY A THOUSAND WORDS. SO WHAT THIS PICTURE IS SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE THAT KIND OF IF WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT VALUATION LOSS OR IF WE WANT TO TRY TO MAKE UP FOR LOST REVENUE BY JUST RAISING MILLAGE, THE IMPLICATION ON THE NON HOMESTEADED AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS ASSUMING YOU HAVE EXEMPTIONS ON ON HOMESTEADED PROPERTY. SO ON THE NON HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES THEIR TAXES WOULD INCREASE BUT NOT ANYWHERE NEAR SIGNIFICANTLY AS THE COMMERCIAL AND TANGIBLE PROPERTY INCREASES THERE. AND THE POINT BEING I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS IS THAT TANGIBLE PROPERTY BY ITS NATURE IN MOST CASES, IN PARTICULARLY HERE IN INDIANTOWN WITH FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT, IT IS IT IS MOBILE. IT IS CAN BE MOVED. AND FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT FOR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO THINK OF THEM OR TALK ABOUT THEM. THEY'RE SMART BUSINESS PEOPLE AND THEY WON'T SIT HERE AND ABSORB THOSE KIND OF TAXES. SO THEY WILL TAKE THEIR STUFF AND THEY WILL LOAD IT UP ON THE TRAIN AND THEY WILL GO TO COLLIER COUNTY. SO TAXATION, WE HAVE ADJUSTED MILLAGE RATE HERE VERY INCREMENTALLY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. I MEAN, LITERALLY, VERY INCREMENTALLY. I THINK WE FOR YEARS WERE 1.6304 MILS. AND WE'RE NOW AT 1.8250, WHICH IS VERY SMALL. WE NEEDED TO DO THAT A COUPLE YEARS AGO TO TRY TO CATCH UP FROM SOME LOSSES. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE ANSWER HERE IS NOT GOING TO BE TO JUST RAISE TAXES TO THE MOON, BECAUSE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO IT BASED ON LOSSES THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE WITH TAXABLE VALUE, POTENTIALLY WITH PROPERTY TAX REFORM. AND JUST THE INCREDIBLE DIVERGENCE THERE BETWEEN HOMESTEADED AND TANGIBLE PROPERTY. WE HAVE WE HAVE SOME VERY UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES HERE AT THE VILLAGE. OKAY. UTILITY FUND IS KOING BACK TO WHERE WHERE WE WERE EARLIER LOOKING AT OVERALL. SO AGAIN, MOST OF WHAT THE ACTIVITY THAT WE HAVE IN THE UTILITY FUND IS AGAIN, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT RELATED. ALL THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE THERE IS MOSTLY STATE AND OR FEDERAL GRANTS FOR OUR DEP AND SRF PROJECTS. OPERATING EXPENDITURES HERE ARE PRETTY FLAT. WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THINGS FLAT, BUT IT'S IT'S HONESTLY, IT'S GETTING HARDER AND HARDER TO DO. I WILL TELL YOU THIS, I WAS LAST COUPLE DAYS, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE HAD WITH OUR RATE STUDIES THAT WE DID IN 2024 AND WHAT THE FUTURE PROJECTIONS WERE FOR THE COST OF OPERATING THE UTILITY. AND WE'RE RUNNING AHEAD OF THAT. WE'RE DEFINITELY RUNNING AHEAD OF THAT. I THINK THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO ON POINT, BUT THE COST OF SERVICE HAS BEEN HIGHER THAN WHAT WAS PROJECTED. SO WE'RE WE'RE GAINING IN THE REVENUE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE'RE GAINING FASTER IN THE EXPENSE DEPARTMENT. THAT'S NOT A GREAT FORMULA, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE. AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN SUBSEQUENT SLIDES HERE. OKAY. JUST A PIE CHART HERE SHOWING IT. YOU KNOW THAT OVERWHELMINGLY TOTAL UTILITY OPERATIONS IS IS GRANT DRIVEN. AND WE AGAIN, WE HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY FORTUNATE WITH THE HARD WORK OF OUR LOCAL PARTNERS HERE IN THE VILLAGE WITH HELPING US OBTAIN GRANT FUNDING. THEY'VE BEEN ROCK STARS WITH THAT FOR SURE. AND WE'RE, OF COURSE, VERY APPRECIATIVE OF OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION AND OUR PARTNERS IN TALLAHASSEE WHO HAVE BEEN MOST GENEROUS WITH THE VILLAGE, WITHOUT QUESTION. AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS HERE IN PERSONNEL, SMALL COMPONENT, REALLY, OF THE OVERALL UTILITY OPERATING EXPENSES. AGAIN, GAINING. BUT.TOTAL BREAKDOWN. OKAY. SO WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU HERE, THIS IS JUST LIKE A REVENUE GRAPH FOR UTILITY FUNDS. SO LAST YEAR, 2025, WE WERE REALLY KIND OF JUST SKIMMING THE TOP OF BUDGET.
YOU KNOW, I, I MAY HAVE OVERSHOT BUDGET A LITTLE BIT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DID, WE DID ACHIEVE BUDGET IN MOST CASES A LITTLE BIT. THE OPERATING AND CONSUMPTION REVENUE WAS SHORT. THIS YEAR. WE'RE HITTING OUR BUDGET MARK EVERY MONTH. THE RED LINE IS THE BUDGET, THE AVERAGE BUDGET PER MONTH. AND THE BLUE HISTOGRAM BARS IS THE ACTUAL REVENUE COLLECTED. SO WE'RE DOING OKAY THIS YEAR. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT NEXT YEAR, PARTICULARLY WITH COMMERCIAL WATER REVENUE. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A A LARGE ACCOUNT OUT WITH TERRA LAGO. THEY HAVE, I THINK, A THREE INCH WATER METER OUT THERE THAT THEY'RE USING FOR
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IRRIGATION. AND THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DRILLING A WELL OUT THERE TO GET GROUNDWATER FOR IRRIGATION. SO THEY'RE GOING TO CURTAIL THEIR CONSUMPTION ON POTABLE WATER, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, PROS AND CONS. WE'LL HAVE MORE CAPACITY AT THE SAME TIME, NOT AVAILABLE FOR SALE CAPACITY, BUT WE'LL HAVE MORE CAPACITY IN THE SYSTEM. BUT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE SOME REVENUE. AND THAT BILL IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. IT'S ABOUT IT'S ABOUT 200,000 A YEAR, 20,000 PLUS A MONTH IS WHAT WE'RE EARNING 20 TO 20 000 PLUS. SO IT'S IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.WE'RE GOING TO LOSE SOME OF THAT. WE ALSO HAD SOME SALES OF CAPACITY FEES THIS YEAR. WE WE DID HAVE SOME THAT WAS COMMITTED AND WERE WERE PURCHASED. SO THAT HELPED BOOST US UP A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR AS WELL. NEXT YEAR I'M GOING A LITTLE MORE CONSERVATIVE AGAIN ON SOME NUMBERS. ON THE REVENUE SIDE, THIS IS A GRAPH HERE OF SHOWING JUST WHAT CONSUMPTION TRENDS AND PATTERNS IN THE UTILITY HAVE BEEN. AGAIN, THE BLUE LINE IS 2024. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT ABOUT 2024 IS WE DID A COMPLETE WATER METER SYSTEM CHANGE OUT IN THE ENTIRE VILLAGE, WHICH WAS A GREAT THING. YOU KNOW, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, 2000 ACCOUNTS OUT THERE AND ALL WATER METERS IN THE SYSTEM WERE REPLACED. I THINK WE COMPLETED THAT PROJECT BY JULY OR AUGUST OF 24. SO WHAT YOU'VE SEEN SINCE THEN IN THE GREEN BAR AND NOW THE RED BAR IS THAT SHIFT UPWARDS WHERE WE HAVE MORE ACCURATE METERING AND READS AND MORE ACCURATE COLLECTIONS IN REVENUE. WE HAD AT ONE POINT IN TIME IN IN 2024, WE HAD IDENTIFIED OVER 100 PLUS ACCOUNTS WHERE THE METERS WERE NOT READING ANY WATER CONSUMPTION AT ALL. CUSTOMERS WERE NOT GETTING BILLED FOR ANY CONSUMPTION. SO WE YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, WE HAD TO REPLACE THOSE METERS. THEY'RE NOW READING ACCURATELY, BUT THAT HAS HELP IS, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY BUILDING FOR WHAT'S BEING CONSUMED. THAT'S WHAT THE UTILITY SYSTEM DOES. OKAY. RESIDENTIAL HOMES. SO THIS IS WHERE WE'VE BEEN SINCE APRIL OF 25. THESE WERE NEW HOME STARTS OUT IN THE TERRA LAGO AND RIVER OAK DEVELOPMENTS. AND YOU CAN SEE THESE TOTALS BY MONTH. AND AGAIN, THEY HAD QUITE A FEW THAT STARTED OUT IN APRIL. AND THERE'S BEEN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, A STEADY NUMBER OF HOMES THAT HAVE CODE AND BECOME AVAILABLE FOR NEW RESIDENTS IN THE MONTHS SINCE. BUT CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE. AND THIS NEXT GRAPH HERE IS IN THE PHASE ONE A AND PHASE ONE B ONLY. THIS IS TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE HAVE NEW WATER UTILITY ACCOUNTS. SO IT'S A TOTAL OF 210 UNITS OUT THERE THROUGH THE END OF JULY. WE DON'T HAVE NUMBERS FOR RIVER OAK BECAUSE THAT'S A MASTER METER SITUATION.
SO WE DON'T HAVE INDIVIDUAL CUSTOMER ACCOUNT NUMBERS OUT THERE. BUT I'M SURE THERE'S SEVERAL DOZEN NEW RESIDENTS OUT THERE AS WELL. I DON'T I JUST DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. OKAY, SO 2024, I WANTED TO KIND OF BRING THIS UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT WE HAD A BIG PROBLEM IN 2024. NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE A BUNCH OF DEAD METERS THAT WERE NOT REGISTERING CONSUMPTION, BUT WE HAD BIG PROBLEM WITH DELINQUENCY. SO WE DID SOME SURVEYS AND CALLED AROUND DIFFERENT UTILITIES. SOME UTILITIES HAVE TRACKED THIS AND SOME DON'T. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KIND OF LEARNED IN THIS EXERCISE IS THAT FOR UTILITIES THAT I HAD SOME INFORMATION FROM, WE HAD PROBABLY ABOUT 2 TO 2 AND A HALF TIMES THE DELINQUENCY RATE OF SOME OTHER OF OTHER UTILITIES, SO VERY HIGH. SO WE WERE AT POINTS WHERE 1 IN 4 CUSTOMERS WERE NOT PAYING THEIR BILL ON TIME. THAT AFFECTED OPERATIONS AT THAT TIME. SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAD DONE FINANCIALLY WITH POOLED CASH AND THE WAY THAT WE HAVE CASH STRUCTURED IN OUR OLD BANK ACCOUNTS, IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT MOVING CASH AROUND, NOT HAVING ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY CERTAIN BILLS AT MONTH END, DEBT SERVICE BILLS, ETC. THAT WAS ALL A REAL CHALLENGE. SO WE INSTITUTED AND WE HAD WORKSHOPS HERE AND WE HAD A SPENT THE WHOLE SATURDAY OUT HERE AND TALKING TO RESIDENTS WHO CAME TALK ABOUT THE CHANGE IN THE LATE FEES. YOU KNOW, THE $5 LATE FEE WASN'T REALLY MOVING THE NEEDLE MUCH FOR FOLKS. YOU KNOW, IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A LAYAWAY PLAN, FRANKLY, I THINK IS WHAT IT WAS. THEY PUT IN THEIR UTILITY BILL ON LAYAWAY, AND THAT REALLY WASN'T HELPFUL. SO WHAT WE DID WAS, IS WE, YOU KNOW, WE, AGAIN, WE DID SOME RESEARCH AND WE LOOKED AT HOW THE CREDIT CARD INDUSTRY HANDLED THIS AS WELL. AND WE INSTITUTED A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT LATE FEE, YOU KNOW, $35 LATE FEE. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THOSE NUMBERS CHANGE FROM 24 TO 26. SO WE HAD A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM AT THAT TIME. AND WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A BIG PROBLEM ANYMORE. AND THE OTHER IMPACTS ON THIS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE, MAKE YOU AWARE WHEN WE DON'T HAVE CASH AND BANK TO PAY BILLS, PAY VENDORS TO PAY CUSTOMERS, THERE'S A COST TO THE UTILITY TO DO THAT. THERE'S A COST TO
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THE UTILITY. WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT PHASE, WHICH IS THE DISCONNECTION PHASE, WHICH IS WE HAVE TO ROLL TRUCKS AND EMPLOYEES TO BE ABLE TO TURN OFF METERS. SO THIS WAS A SITUATION THAT AS WE GOT BIGGER, WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO GET FURTHER OUT OF HAND. WE KIND OF REALLY TIGHTENED DOWN THE SCREWS ON THIS. AND AGAIN, I THINK THE GRAPH TELLS THE STORY ABOUT THE SUCCESS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THIS LEVEL OF, IN THIS PROBLEM THAT WE HAD IN UTILITY.THIS IS THE SAME THING HERE WITH DISCONNECTS. SO BACK IN 24, WE WERE AVERAGING ANYWHERE FROM 40 TO 70 PLUS ACCOUNTS THAT WERE DELINQUENT WITH DISCONNECT DURING OUR UTILITY BILLING SOFTWARE CONVERSION PERIOD. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY. IT WAS KIND OF A SHOCK, I THINK, FOR SOME IN APRIL AND MAY OF 25 WHEN WE STARTED REINSTITUTING THOSE FEES. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF DISCONNECTS HAVE HAVE COME SIGNIFICANTLY DOWN. AND I WILL SAY ON AVERAGE, WE PROBABLY HAVE. 20 TO 40 CUSTOMERS WHO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR ARE KIND OF REGULARS WITH, WITH, WITH DISCONNECTION OR LATE PAYMENT. YOU KNOW, WE, WE FEEL FOR THOSE FOLKS, WE TRY TO WORK WITH THEM. BUT ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THE UTILITY WORKS AND THE WAY WE KEEP COSTS DOWN IS TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, COLLECT REVENUE WHEN PAYMENTS ARE DUE. AND THAT'S ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AS WELL. I'VE TALKED, I'VE SAID THIS A PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETINGS, I SAID AT WORKSHOP, BUT WHEN PEOPLE GET THEIR WATER BILL, YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE HAD ON THERE, THE 20TH OF THE MONTH IS THE DUE DATE THAT'S BEEN ON UTILITY BILLS SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME. BUT UTILITY BILL IS DUE. WHEN YOU GET IT, IT'S DUE. IT'S DUE WHEN YOU GET IT. THE THE GRACE PERIOD THAT YOU GET IS UNTIL THE 20TH OF THE MONTH, BUT IT'S DUE WHEN YOU GET IT. IF YOU CHOOSE TO PAY AFTER THE 20TH, THAT'S A THAT'S UP TO YOU.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY SUBJECT TO LATE FEES AND OTHER CHARGES, BUT IT'S. BUT IT IS DUE WHEN IT IS RECEIVED. AND WE USUALLY SEND OUT BILLS AT LEAST 20 PLUS DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THAT, OF THAT GRACE PERIOD, END DATE, WHICH IS THE 20TH OF EVERY MONTH. AND AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW THAT IF THE 20TH FALLS ON A HOLIDAY OR WEEKEND, IT'S THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY, IT'S NOT BEFORE IT'S THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY. SO THAT'S THAT. OKAY, THIS IS ANOTHER FACTOR THAT I WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT ONLY ACCOUNTANTS LIKE ME REALLY CARE ABOUT, BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT. IT'S A COMPONENT OUT OF OUR LOAN DOCUMENTS OR OUR LOAN COVENANTS. OKAY. AND THEY EXPECT US TO BE ABLE TO MEET AND HAVE NET REVENUE COLLECTION TO PAY THE BILLS TO PAY OUR DEBT SERVICE. OKAY. SO IN 2024, WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF HOT WATER. WE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH OUR DEBT COVERAGE AND NET REVENUES WERE NOT SUFFICIENT BASED ON THE THE WAY THE FORMULA WORKS. ALL RIGHT. SO TOTAL NET REVENUES THERE AND THE ANNUALIZED DEBTS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN, NET REVENUES. THAT'S EQUAL TO AT LEAST 115% OF TOTAL DEBT. DEBT PAYMENT. WE DIDN'T GET THERE. THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE AT THE STATE REVOLVING FUND IN TALLAHASSEE WHO KIND OF SAT UP STRAIGHT UP IN THEIR CHAIRS AND SAID, WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE IN INDIANTOWN? SO WE WERE AT THAT TIME GOING THROUGH A RATE STUDY AND PLANNING ON IMPLEMENTING NEW FEES. AGAIN, IF YOU GO BACK TO 2024, THE UTILITY WAS ACQUIRED FROM INDIANTOWN COMPANY IN SEPTEMBER OF 2020. NO, NO RATE INCREASES AT ALL DURING THAT FOUR YEAR PERIOD OF TIME. I HAVE TO ASK THE LOCALS WHO'VE BEEN HERE FOREVER. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME INDIANTOWN COMPANY ACTUALLY HAD A RATE INCREASE BEFORE 2020? I'VE BEEN TOLD MAYBE, MAYBE FIVE OR MORE YEARS BEFORE THAT. SO WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT AT LEAST MAYBE A TEN YEAR PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THERE WERE NO RATE ADJUSTMENTS IN THIS UTILITY WHATSOEVER OR NONE. AND UNFORTUNATELY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TO DEAL WITH DURING THAT FOUR YEAR SPAN OF TIME, FROM 2020 TO 24, WAS MASSIVE INFLATION, INFLATION, AND THINGS GOING TO THE MOON IN TERMS OF COST. SO WE DID INSTITUTE EFFECTIVE NOVEMBER OF 24, BECAUSE THAT WAS SUBSEQUENT TO THE CLOSING OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, BIG INCREASES IN WATER. WE DID BIG CATCH UP.
THERE WERE 39% ON WATER AND TEN AND A HALF ON SEWER. AND IN THAT YEAR, WE ALSO PASSED RESOLUTION 0624, WHICH CAUSES US TO INDEX THE COST OF OUR RATES TO BE 3.5% OR WHATEVER THE RATE INDEX SHOWS. BASED ON THE INFORMATION PUBLISHED BY THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS.
SO THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE WE INSTITUTED THAT INCREASE, IT'S BEEN 4.72%. AND WHAT WE HAVE PROJECTED FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR WILL BE ABOUT 5%, 4.96, AND FORECASTED INTO FUTURE YEARS. IT'LL, YOU KNOW, BASED ON CURRENT RESOLUTION, IT'LL BE 3.5%. WE ARE STARTING, AND I SAID IT EARLIER IN THIS PRESENTATION ABOUT UTILITY FUND, I THINK REVENUES ARE STARTING TO TICK UP, BUT THE COST OF SERVICE IS IS HIGHER THAN THE PROJECTED. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
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TO RELOOK AT OUR ENTIRE RATE STRUCTURE, THINK AGAIN IN THE NEAR FUTURE, AND PROBABLY DO ANOTHER RATE STUDY JUST TO KIND OF SEE WHERE WE'RE. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE WE'RE STARTING TO TREND IN THE WRONG DIRECTION AS FAR AS WHAT NET REVENUE REQUIREMENTS OR WHAT NET REVENUE IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE TO US BY THE TIME WE GET TO SEPTEMBER OF 28, BECAUSE BY SEPTEMBER OF 28, MAYBE I'M OVERLY OPTIMISTIC, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION PROJECT FOR WASTEWATER WITH THE, PARDON ME, THE SRF PLANT. ALL THE WORK FOR THE SRF PLANT WILL BE DONE. AND SO THAT'S GOING TO ADD BASICALLY DOUBLE THE DEBT SERVICE ON THE UTILITY FUND. SO WE HAVE SOME DEBT AND WE HAVE TO PAY. IT'S GOING TO COME DUE.AND YOU CAN SEE THE COVERAGE RATIO. THEY'RE PROJECTING THAT UNDER CURRENT ESTIMATES 2028 I THINK IS A LITTLE BIT IN QUESTION AS FAR AS WILL WE BE ABLE TO MEET COVERAGE RATIO REQUIREMENTS. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HAS BEEN TO KEEP PACE WITH OUR EXISTING LOAN AGREEMENTS, TO MAKE SURE WE GET OUT OF HOT WATER BECAUSE WE GOT IN HOT WATER IN 2024, AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GOING BACKWARDS. THESE ARE THIS IS LANGUAGE ACTUALLY RIGHT OUT OF OUR LOAN AGREEMENTS WITH THE STATE REVOLVING FUND. SO THE STATE REVOLVING FUND HAS AFFORDED THEMSELVES CERTAIN REMEDIES TO ENSURE THE VILLAGE COLLECTS WHAT IT NEEDS TO COLLECT TO PAY BACK THE DEBT THAT IT HAS BEEN ISSUED, THE LOANS THAT HAS BEEN ISSUED. SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE, OF COURSE, TO PROCEED WITH LITIGATION. THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ESTABLISH THE RATES THAT THEY FEEL WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT FOR SUFFICIENT REVENUE COLLECTION. THEY CAN APPLY TO A COURT TO APPOINT A RECEIVER TO PUT UTILITY IN THE HANDS OF A THIRD PARTY. IF WE'RE NOT SUFFICIENTLY MANAGING AND COLLECTING THAT REVENUES OVER THERE TO PAY THE DEBT, THEY CAN ALSO PETITION THE AUDITOR GENERAL AND THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL SERVICES AND ESSENTIALLY GARNISH OUR WAGES, HOLD BACK REVENUES TO COLLECT WHAT IS COMING TO THE VILLAGE.
THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE GENERAL GOVERNMENT REVENUES AS WELL. WOULDN'T WOULDN'T NECESSARILY JUST BE UTILITY OR GRANT. IT COULD BE GENERAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL. AND THEY COULD TACK ON A 6% FEE WITH THAT. AND THEY WOULD THEN INSTITUTE AN INCREASE IN THE FINANCING RATE.
WE HAVE, AGAIN, ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE STATE REVOLVING FUND, WE HAVE UNBELIEVABLY GENEROUS BORROW TERMS WITH THAT LOAN, THE CONSTRUCTION LOAN THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH THE SRF IS IT'S 1.26% PER ANNUM. DON'T WE ALL WISH WE COULD GET THAT? ALSO, THE LOAN FORGIVENESS RATE IS TWO THIRDS. SO RIGHT NOW THE CONSTRUCTION LOAN THAT WE HAVE IS $12.6 MILLION. CONSTRUCTION. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE GOING TO FORGIVE EIGHT 8 MILLION PLUS OF THAT. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY BACK FOUR. SO THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT DEAL.
SO BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO WE THEY EXPECT US TO MAINTAIN OUR OBLIGATIONS CURRENTLY AND PROSPECTIVELY FOR REPAYMENT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS CRYSTAL CLEAR ON THAT. OKAY.
MOVING BACK INTO GENERAL BUDGET ISSUES HERE, THIS IS OUR TOTAL STAFFING ON THE BOARD WITH THE VILLAGE. WE WE HAVE 43.5 APPROVED POSITIONS CURRENTLY. NOT ALL OF THEM ARE FUNDED.
WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT IN THE CURRENT PROPOSED BUDGET. WE HAVE ONE AND A HALF NEW POSITIONS BEING REQUESTED, AND THAT ONE ONE THERE'S ONE FULL TIME POSITION PROJECT ENGINEER, PROJECT MANAGER, WHICH IS NEEDED FOR ALL THE PROJECTS THAT THE VILLAGE IS CURRENTLY UNDERTAKING AND WILL UNDERTAKE IN THE FUTURE. AND WE'RE TRYING TO CONVERT A PART TIME PARKS REC PARK RANGER TO A FULL TIME. OKAY, THIS IS THE COUNCIL BUDGET. HERE AGAIN, ALL POSITIONS ARE CONSIDERED PART TIME. THERE'S TWO AND A HALF WHAT THEY CALL FTE STANDS FOR FULL TIME EQUIVALENT. SO A FULL TIME EQUIVALENT IS 1.0. PART TIME IS CONSIDERED 0.5 ADMIN SERVICES. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A VILLAGE MANAGER AND VILLAGE CLERK IN THERE, DEPUTY CLERK THAT'S CURRENTLY UNFILLED. AND THEN WE HAVE THREE POSITIONS THERE THAT ARE VACANT AND ARE NOT FUNDED IN THE BUDGET AND ARE NOT PLANNING TO BE FILLED. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE COORDINATOR, TWO PERMIT TECHNICIANS AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. WE ACTUALLY JUST FILLED THE ADMIN ASSISTANT POSITION THERE. SO THAT SHOULD MOVE UP ONE SLOT.
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AND THEN WE DO HAVE THE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR IS CURRENTLY A CONTRACTED. SO WE DO NOT HAVE BUDGET TO FUND THAT AS A FULL TIME POSITION AT THIS TIME. MY DEPARTMENT FINANCE WE'VE GROWN A LITTLE BIT OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. HAVE MYSELF, I HAVE A SENIOR ACCOUNTANT, BUT ACTUALLY FILLED WITH A PART TIMER, SENIOR BUYER, JUNIOR ACCOUNTANT AND PAYROLL AND HR SPECIALIST. AND I HAVE A PART TIME ACCOUNTING CLERK. I DO HAVE A VACANT ACCOUNTING POSITION THAT I'M STILL EVALUATING. I HAVE A SCANNING RECORDS CLERK, AND THE ONE POSITION THAT I AM ASKING TO ADD BACK INTO THE BUDGET HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, BUT WAS UNFUNDED. WE HAD TO CUT IT OUT OF THE BUDGET LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF DECREASE IN AD VALOREM REVENUE. BUT I'M TRYING TO ADD BACK A BUSINESS ANALYST POSITION TO HELP US MANAGE THE TYLER SYSTEM. THAT'S A, I THINK, A REALLY IMPORTANT ROLE THAT WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S COLLABORATION AND UNIFORMITY ACROSS THE VILLAGE IN ALL DEPARTMENTS WHO ARE USING OUR NEW ERP SYSTEM. IT'S HARD TO DO THAT ON A DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT BASIS. WE NEED A KIND OF LINCHPIN, A CORNERSTONE TO HELP US DO THAT. PARKS DEPARTMENT, FIVE POSITIONS THERE, A CURRENT VACANT RANGER. AND THEN AGAIN, WE DO HAVE A ANOTHER POSITION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE FULL TIME WITH THE ADDITION OF THAT HALF FTE.OKAY. PUBLIC WORKS. AGAIN, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, UTILITY MANAGER, UTILITY COORDINATOR, THEY ARE SPLIT FUNDED WITH THE UTILITY FUNDS. SO THEY'RE HALF FUNDED HERE AND HALF FUNDED IN THE UTILITY SIDE. AND THEN THEY HAVE A VACANT TECHNICIAN. AND THIS IS THE OTHER HALF ADDITION WE'RE REQUESTING FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS UTILITY PROJECT ENGINEER. UTILITIES DEPARTMENT IN TOTAL.
AGAIN THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN HERE WITH THE WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS UTILITY MANAGER AND COORDINATOR. THERE'S 13.5 POSITIONS IN THIS DEPARTMENT. SEVEN WATER WASTEWATER TECHNICIANS. MANAGER FOR WATER SPLIT FUNDED FOR THE SEWER MANAGER. AND AGAIN, THE OTHER HALF OF THE ENGINEER PROJECT MANAGER. AND THERE ARE THERE IS A BILLING SUPERVISOR AND TWO BILLING CLERKS THAT ARE UNDER ME THAT ARE FUNDED AT UTILITY FUND. OKAY. I WILL SAY ABOUT THE UTILITY FUND HERE, THEY THEY CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE ANY FTE REQUESTS AT THIS TIME.
HOWEVER, WE MAY BE COMING BACK TO THE COUNCIL AT SOME POINT DURING FISCAL YEAR 27 TO REQUEST PROBABLY A 1 TO 2 POSITIONS OUT THERE. ONCE THE NEW WASTEWATER PLANT COMES ONLINE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEED FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, THESE GUYS OUT HERE IN THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT, THEY THEY ARE A MULTI ROLE PLAYER. THEY THEY PLAY EVERY POSITION ON THE FIELD. AT THE SAME TIME. THEY'RE IN THE PLANTS, THEY'RE IN THE FIELD. AND THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THEY CAN DO. AND AS UTILITY GROWS AND AS THE SYSTEM BASICALLY ALSO AS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE UTILITY PLANTS CHANGE AS THEY GET BIGGER AND REQUIREMENTS FROM DEP REQUIRE MORE HOURS OF STAFFING, HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY YOU KNOW, MR. NOLAN'S GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. AND HE'S WELL AWARE OF THAT. BUT RIGHT NOW HE'S NOT ASKING FOR THOSE POSITIONS. AND WE'LL ALSO SEE HOW IT GOES TO WITH REVENUE. REVENUE SHOULD HOPEFULLY BE BETTER THAN WE'RE PROJECTING. HOPEFULLY COSTS ARE LOWER THAN WE'RE PROJECTING.
BUT HE DOES HAVE NEEDS OUT THERE THAT HE'S NOT CURRENTLY FULLY SATISFYING. HE, YOU KNOW, HE'S HE DOES I THINK A LOT WITH THE LITTLE. BUT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FUND THAT OPERATION OUT THERE. THIS HERE IS TOTAL DEPARTMENT EXPENDITURES. I'M NOT SURE WHY THE SLIDES HERE.
OKAY. GENERAL GOVERNMENT. SO THIS IS THE DEPARTMENT WHERE THIS IS REALLY A NON-DEPARTMENTAL FUNCTION HERE. ANYTHING THAT IS NOT SPECIFIC TO A FINANCE OR CODE ENFORCEMENT OR THE VILLAGE MANAGER'S OFFICE, WE PUT IN THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT, THE DEPARTMENT, 510 THE COST THAT WE HAVE HERE ARE MOSTLY PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. WE HAVE SOME LOBBYING SERVICES. WE DO HAVE ENGINEERING STUDIES POTENTIALLY NEEDED OR PLANNED FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. AND AS YOU KNOW, AS THE COUNCIL, THE PAST COUNCIL HAD SEEN WITH SOME OF OUR NEW DISCRETIONARY SALES TAX, WE MADE SOME LAND ACQUISITIONS AND LAND PURCHASES, AND WE'VE HAD TO DO SOME APPRAISALS AND SURVEYS RELATED TO THAT. SO IN THE EVENT THAT WE DO MORE LAND ACQUISITION IN THE UPCOMING YEAR, THERE IS FUNDING FOR THAT. AND WE MAY HAVE SOME CURRENTLY UNDESIGNATED SOFTWARE NEEDS AND UPGRADES FOR THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT RELATED TO CLERK'S OFFICE OR FINANCE RIGHT NOW. BUT THAT'S, I THINK MAY BE NEEDED PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITIES. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE PUT MONEY IN FOR THE FIREWORKS DISPLAY AND 4TH OF JULY, THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE LOW, BUT IF WE HAVE SOME SAVINGS ELSEWHERE, WE WILL MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE PUT IN THERE. AND ALSO THE TANGIBLE PROPERTY TAX REBATE THAT GOES BACK TO, YOU KNOW, WE USUALLY PAY THAT AND WE USUALLY PAY THAT BACK TO
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THEM IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY. OKAY. OKAY. THE COUNCIL BUDGET IS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. AGAIN, THERE ARE A FEW MEMBERSHIPS THAT THE THE VILLAGE BELONGS TO THROUGH THE COUNCIL LEAGUE OF CITIES. AND THEN THERE'S SOME INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE IN HERE AND THEN TRAVEL AND TRAINING IN TOTAL. AGAIN, COUNCIL HAS HISTORICALLY UNDERSPENT THIS BUDGET. BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE NEEDS REQUIREMENTS MAY BE. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T UNDERFUND THIS. IT'S REALLY IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY THERE.OKAY. ADMIN SERVICES HERE. WE DO HAVE COSTS FOR VILLAGE WEBSITE, LASERFICHE, DOCUMENT MANAGEMENT AND SOME OTHER THINGS HERE REGARDING THE GRANICUS AGENDA SYSTEM AND IN ADMIN SERVICES, WE DO ALSO HAVE LEGAL SERVICES WHICH WE HISTORICALLY BUDGET HERE EVERY YEAR AT ABOUT 150,000 A YEAR. FINANCE HERE. TOTAL COST INCREASE HERE FOR FINANCE IS TO TRY TO REFUND OR PUT MONEY BACK IN THE BUDGET FOR THE BUSINESS ANALYST POSITION, WHICH IS 65 K.
IF I COULD FIND SOMEONE AT THAT LEVEL, WOULD BE GREAT. TOTAL PAYROLL TAXES, SALARY BENEFITS WOULD BE MAYBE UP TO 90. AND THEN COUNTING AUDIT AND PROFESSIONAL FEES HERE, AUDITING FEES AND AUDITING COSTS HAVE GOTTEN A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE OF THE INSTITUTION OF I.T. RELATED AUDITS AND GETTING A LOT MORE INTO IT SYSTEMS AND IT SECURITY AND SEGREGATION OF DUTIES, AND REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT THEY CALL SYSTEM OF COMPLIANCE SOC REPORTING. THERE'S A LOT MORE WITH AUDITING THAN USED TO BE JUST A FEW YEARS AGO. SO IT'S COSTING MORE TO DO THAT. AND AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME IN FINANCE, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE VILLAGE, IS I WANT TO TRY TO ALWAYS FIGURE OUT WAYS TO WORK SMARTER INSTEAD OF HARDER. AND IF WE CAN FIND WAYS TO USE SOFTWARE TO AUTOMATE, SIMPLIFY OR ELIMINATE ROUTINE, MUNDANE TASKS, I WANT TO DO THAT. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO HIRE PEOPLE TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE VILLAGE THAT WE CONTINUE ON THAT TRACK. OKAY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGAIN, THEY'VE BEEN VERY BUSY OVER THIS PAST YEAR AND I THINK WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE COMP PLAN UPDATES WITH THE AMENDMENT. VERY BUSY WITH THAT THIS YEAR.
YOU KNOW, OUR DIRECTOR THERE, MISS FREEMAN, DOES A TREMENDOUS JOB, GIVES TREMENDOUS AMOUNT TO THE VILLAGE. DONE A GREAT JOB WITH IT. BUT WE DO HAVE SOME CERTAIN COSTS WITH OTHER CONSULTANTS WHO ARE NEEDED AS WELL. AND AGAIN, THE THING THAT I WILL TELL YOU, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IS COMPLETELY CLEAR ABOUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. BUT THIS THIS IS NOW A DEPARTMENT THAT YEARS AGO, A FEW YEARS AGO, WAS IN THE IN THE RED, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THEY SPENT MORE THAN THEY TOOK IN. IT'S COMPLETELY CHANGED NOW. SO THE COSTS IN THIS DEPARTMENT HAVE COME DOWN QUITE A BIT. AND REVENUE IN THIS DEPARTMENT HAS TAKEN OFF SIGNIFICANTLY. IT'S IT'S BEEN BOTH WAYS. I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF STREAMLINING IN COSTS. AND THERE'S ALSO BEEN, AGAIN, A LOT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION AND PLANNING ACTIVITY THAT HAS GREATLY BENEFITED THE DEPARTMENT. AND THE VILLAGE DONE A GREAT JOB. PARKS, PARKS DEPARTMENT. AGAIN, THIS IS THE INCREASE FOR THE RANGER TO IN FILL THAT RANGER POSITION AND THEN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS HERE. SO THIS IS WHAT OUR PARKS DIRECTOR HAS PUT IN FOR THE THE DOG PARK, SOMETHING I THINK, THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED IN THE PAST. AND SO SHE DOES HAVE THAT FUNDED. WE HAVE FIELD RENOVATIONS, A BIG MOUND PARK, WHICH WE DID RECEIVE MONEY EARLIER IN JULY TO PAY FOR THAT. I THINK WE GOT $250,000. SO THEY PAID THE WHOLE AMOUNT. SO THAT IS SITTING IN A RESTRICTED UNEARNED ACCOUNT. AND WHEN WE START DOING THOSE RENOVATIONS NEXT YEAR, WE WILL MATCH THOSE COSTS WITH THOSE UNEARNED REVENUES. RESTROOM CONCESSION BUILDING OUT THERE AT THE PARK AS WELL, $250,000 AND THEN SOME SPORTS FIELD FENCING OUT IN BROOKER PARK. PUBLIC WORKS AGAIN, THAT'S COST IMPACT WITH THE ENGINEER POSITION AND THEN OTHER CONTRACTUAL SERVICES THAT THEY DO FOR CONTRACTORS, MATERIALS THAT YOU'LL SEE THERE, ROAD MAINTENANCE. AND THIS YEAR THEY ARE DEFINITELY, I THINK, DOING MORE WITH ROAD, STREET AND DRAINAGE REPAIRS. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK PLANNED OUT THERE WITH CULVERTS, FINISHING UP WITH SOME ROAD RESURFACING. WE'LL WE'LL SEE HOW WE FUND IT. BUT HE DOES HAVE AN EARMARK THERE FOR USE OF MOBILITY FEES. I DID NOT ACTUALLY BUDGET MOBILITY FEE EXPENDITURES. BUT WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL SEE IF THAT'S IF THAT QUALIFIES. I DIDN'T BUDGET IN THE MOBILITY FEE, BUT I HAVE IT IN THE PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET. BUT WE DO HAVE SOME MAYBE SOME INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, CONSTRUCTION OF A ROUNDABOUT OR WHATEVER. I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME AREAS AROUND THE VILLAGE THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS NEEDING SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN, IN
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TRANSPORTATION. SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. AND UTILITY FUND HERE, THEY THEY'RE PRETTY HONESTLY, THEY'RE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD HERE. YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR BIGGEST CHALLENGE, I THINK, OUT THERE IS JUST KEEPING UP WITH THE COST OF OPERATIONS, CHEMICALS, ELECTRICITY, SLUDGE HAULING, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE IS, IS RISING AND INCREASING AT FASTER THAN ANTICIPATED RATES. AND I THINK, AGAIN, THE GUYS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PULLED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS ON A ON A DAILY BASIS. AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THE OPERATIONS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO COVER IN UTILITIES DEPARTMENT DO SPAN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK BECAUSE THEY HAVE OBLIGATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS TOO, YOU KNOW, SO THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN OUT THERE WITH, WITH THE STAFF THAT THEY HAVE. OKAY. AND THIS HERE IS JUST A BIG GRID OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE FUNDED, AND THAT IS CURRENTLY NOT FUNDED. SO I'LL JUST KIND OF START FROM THE TOP DOWN AND MOVE DOWN A LITTLE BIT TO SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS HERE.BUT OUR, YOU KNOW, SEMINOLE AVENUE, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE SEEN OVER HERE WITH THE ROUNDABOUT, THAT PROJECT IS WELL UNDERWAY. AND I BELIEVE THEIR PLAN IS TO TRY TO FINISH THAT UP BY SEPTEMBER 30TH. THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A WHILE. WE DO HAVE SOME LIMITATIONS WITH THE GRANT AGREEMENT TO TO FINISH THAT BY THAT TIMELINE, 620,000 OF IT IS FUNDED AND WE'LL PAY THE REST OUT OF. AT A GENERAL GOVERNMENT BUDGET. LAST YEAR, WE DID FINISH THE DESIGN FOR WHAT WE HAVE CALLED THE UPTOWN DRAINAGE PROJECT, WHICH IS FOR ESSENTIALLY A A REPLICATION OF THE PROJECT THAT WAS DONE IN BROOKER PARK IN 2023, WHICH WE FINISHED IN 2023. THAT WAS A $2 MILLION PROJECT. I BELIEVE IT'S JUST A MUCH BIGGER AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED HERE. THE THAT WAS A 5050 COST SPLIT WITH DOT AND THE VILLAGE. SO WE PAID 350,000 AND THEY PAID. THEY PAID 350. THE DESIGN IS DONE. WE JUST DON'T HAVE CONSTRUCTION MONEY. WE'LL KEEP LOOKING FOR IT, TRY TO GET GRANTS. BUT THAT'S KIND OF SITTING THERE IN THE UNFUNDED COLUMN. OKAY. AND LINCOLN STREET IS ANOTHER GRANT THAT WE'VE HAD FOR A WHILE. I THINK THE SCOPE OF THAT HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. THAT PROJECT IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO COMMENCE UNTIL THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 2728. OKAY. AND THEN KIND OF MOVING DOWN TO THE PARKS MASTER PLAN AND CIP. SO I, I THINK MISS RIZZO'S AND PARKS HAS DONE A GOOD JOB WITH A LOT OF HER PLANS OVER THIS UPCOMING YEAR AND IN FUTURE YEARS WITH JUST GENERAL CIP, SHE WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER IN TERMS OF WHAT THINGS IS SHE ADDRESSING OR ABLE TO ADDRESS.
NOW, THAT WAS IN THE MASTER PLAN CIP, BUT FOR PURPOSES, I THINK TO MAKE IT SIMPLE, $22.9 MILLION IS SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE. SO THAT WAS WHAT WAS IN THE MASTER PLAN. THERE MAY BE ELEMENTS OF IT THAT SHE CAN CHIP AWAY AT IN HER REGULAR GENERAL BUDGET, BUT, YOU KNOW, DOING A COMPLETE PLAN OF 22 MILLION, I DON'T KNOW, HAVE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY YEARS IT WOULD TAKE TO GET THROUGH ALL THAT. BUT THE FUNDING AT THAT LEVEL IS NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE. OKAY. AND BIG PROJECT WE HAVE OUT THERE, WHICH IS GOING TO AFFECT, YOU KNOW, WATER QUALITY FOR YEARS TO COME IS, YOU KNOW, THE WATER, PARTICULARLY THE WATER LINE REPLACEMENTS IN THE VILLAGE. YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF LINES OUT THERE OF ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT MATERIALS CONSTRUCTED IN ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT ERAS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED. THEY DO HAVE AN IMPACT ON WATER QUALITY AND WATER ESTHETICS IN PARTICULAR.
AND, YOU KNOW, OUR VILLAGE ENGINEER ESTIMATED A WHILE AGO ABOUT 65 MILLION TO TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE REPLACEMENT. IT COULD IT COULD BE MORE THAN THAT, I DON'T KNOW. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A GETTING BACK TO THE UTILITY FUND, THESE ARE THINGS THAT A UTILITY WOULD NORMALLY BE ABLE TO DO TO HAVE A, A, A NORMAL REPLACEMENT BUDGET TO CHIP AWAY AT THIS MAYBE $1 MILLION A YEAR, $2 MILLION A YEAR OR WHATEVER, AND GET IT KNOCKED OUT. THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT IN THE UTILITY FUND. AND THE OTHER PART WITH THE UTILITY FUND, WHICH WE'RE REALLY KIND OF HAVING A HARD TIME WITH, IS TO BE ABLE TO START HAVING CASH SAVINGS FOR FUTURE REPLACEMENTS. YOU KNOW, NORMALLY WHAT YOU DO IN UTILITY FUND IS YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CASH THAT YOU MOVE TO A RESERVE ACCOUNT THAT YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PUMPS AND EQUIPMENT THAT YOU NEED TO REPLACE IN 7 TO 10 YEARS FROM NOW, 12 YEARS FROM NOW, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BUILDING TOWARD THAT, YOU'RE BUILDING TOWARD THAT. WE HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT IN UTILITY FUND. IT'S BEEN MORE DEALING WITH THE, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY NEED TODAY AND WHATEVER ELSE WE CAN GRAB WITHIN THE GRANT CIP PROJECTS.
BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SYSTEMATICALLY DO THAT THROUGH THE NORMAL COURSE OF USER RATES AND FEES. THE MONEY JUST ISN'T REALLY THERE TO DO THAT. OKAY. THE SRF PROJECT, THE STATE REVOLVING FUND. SO AGAIN, THAT IS A GREAT DEAL IN TERMS OF IF WE HAVE TO REPAY THE, YOU KNOW,
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WE WE'VE BEEN AWARDED 12.6 MILLION, 8.4 WOULD BE FORGIVEN. AND THEN WE HAVE A REPAYMENT OF 4 MILLION. 225 BASED ON THAT TOTAL AMOUNT. AGAIN, THE ISSUE IS WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FUND THE DEBT SERVICE AND BE COMMITTED TO THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY HAD EXPENDITURES ON THAT GRANT PROGRAM THIS YEAR AND MORE TO COME. SO THAT'S WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR. WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT. THE OTHER BIG PROJECTS HERE DOWN ON THE LIST, THE DEP WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS, WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO FINISH THAT FOR SURE IN FISCAL YEAR 27.I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT MONTH. BUT WE'RE RIGHT NOW AT ABOUT 39.5 MILLION OF THE OF THE 45 MILLION SPENT PLUS RETAINAGE. SO IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT 41 MILLION. WE'VE SPENT OVER THE 45. I THINK THERE'S STILL A LITTLE MORE TO DO OUT THERE. WE'LL SEE. WHAT IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING. BUT THAT PROJECT IS ALMOST IN THE BOOKS. YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE, BUT WE'VE KIND OF REALLY GONE THROUGH THIS AT A BREAK NECK PACE. IT'S IT'S I'LL JUST SAY IT'S REALLY BEEN AMAZING WORKING WITH CDC AND THEIR CONTRACTORS OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY ARE A SUPER WELL OILED MACHINE, I WILL TELL YOU FOR SURE. AND THEY, THEY GET IT DONE. THEY ARE, THEY ARE GREASED LIGHTNING OUT THERE. AND MR. KELLERMAN, IF THERE IF THEY'VE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB OUT THERE, WE WOULD NEVER BE WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITHOUT THEM.
THEY'VE DONE INCREDIBLE WORK. AND OUR REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER PLANT, THAT'S REALLY, I THINK PROBABLY MAYBE THE QUARTER WAY THROUGH DEEP INJECTION WELL IS NEARLY CONSTRUCTED. WE HAVE SOME FLORIDA WELLS THAT I BELIEVE ARE NEAR COMPLETION. AGAIN, THE THE PLANT ITSELF IS WHAT NEEDS TO STILL BE DONE. OTHER WORK PROBABLY, I DON'T FULLY KNOW YET, BUT THERE'S THERE'S THERE AGAIN, DOING GREAT WORK OUT THERE WITH IT. THINGS ARE MOVING ALONG QUICKLY.
AND THEN OUR RAILROAD AVENUE WATER MAIN, WHICH WE DID GET FUNDING THIS YEAR FROM THROUGH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IN ADDITION TO 9.4 MILLION. THAT'S ALL CDBG COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT MONIES. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE STILL IN ESSENTIALLY ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PHASE AND TRYING TO GET THROUGH SOME OF THE RED TAPE TO GET THOSE OFF THE GROUND. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A GREAT PROJECT THAT WE'LL FINALLY BE ABLE TO REPLACE THAT 105 PLUS YEAR OLD CAST IRON WATER MAIN, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE BULK OF IT. I DON'T RECALL ANYTHING ELSE HERE. SO THAT'S THAT'S A LOT I APOLOGIZE. I DID GET UNDER GET IT IN UNDER THE 2.5 HOURS I ESTIMATED. SO JUST. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. AGAIN, THIS IS A WORKSHOP, SO I'M CERTAINLY ASKING FOR YOUR FEEDBACK HERE. IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES OR ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE FROM THIS, BUT ULTIMATELY PUTTING IT IN YOUR ALL'S HANDS. OH YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION.
YOUR MIC ON. OH, IT'S NOT ON. IT'S CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. IF YOU CAN HEAR ME. CLAP YOUR HANDS. OKAY, SO NOW I, I HAD A QUESTION. MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE LATE FEE FOR THE WATER, NOT THE WATER, BUT THE LATE FEE. RIGHT. HE SAID IT'S DUE ON THE 20TH. EVERYTHING'S DOING IT.
THAT'S THE END OF THE GRACE PERIOD. THAT'S THE END. THAT'S THE END OF THE. SO YEAH, WHEN YOU GET THAT BILL IS WHEN IT'S DUE. SO WE GENERALLY TRY TO GET IT TO PEOPLE BY THE FIRST OR SECOND OF THE MONTH. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE SENDING OUT THE NEXT BILLS ARE GOING TO BE GOING IN THE MAIL TOMORROW. IT'S FOR DUE DATE OF SEPTEMBER 20TH. SO THAT THAT'S OUR PRETTY CONSISTENT SCHEDULE IS WE WE GET THEM OUT IN THE MAIL, USUALLY ABOUT 21, 22 DAYS IN ADVANCE. BUT I JUST, I GUESS THAT'S A, THAT'S, I THINK A LITTLE BIT OF A MISNOMER. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT MESSAGE OUT THERE THAT THE BILL IS TECHNICALLY WE'RE BILLING YOU IN ARREARS. SO WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE ALREADY USED THE WATER AND SEWER SERVICE FOR THE PRIOR MONTH. WE'RE NOW BILLING YOU. SO WHEN WE BILL YOU, IT'S NOW DO YOU HAVE WE'RE GIVING YOU 20 PLUS DAYS TO PAY THAT BILL, YOU KNOW, WITH NO FEE, WITH NO OTHER CHARGES. THE ISSUE IS IF IT'S PAID BEYOND THAT DATE, THAT'S WHEN WE'VE STARTED TO INSTITUTE THE LATE FEES. YEAH. OKAY. SO HERE'S A QUESTION. YEAH. THE 20TH NORMALLY FALLS ON A SUNDAY. CORRECT. ON THE WEEKEND. NOT ALWAYS. I, I, I HAVE NO NOT SOMETIMES. YES. AND THEN DO THE NEXT DAY. WELL IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE IT FELL ON A SUNDAY. OKAY. AND THE AND I'M I FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY THE RESIDENTS PUT THEIR MONEY IN THE BOX. SO NOBODY WORKS ON THE WEEKEND. CORRECT. YES. CORRECT. NOBODY'S COLLECTING ON THE. YES. AND WE DO NORMALLY PULL THOSE PAYMENTS THAT WE GET IN THE BOX AND THEY GET CREDIT FOR THEM FOR THE PREVIOUS BUSINESS DAY. SO WE WILL, IF THERE'S A. WELL, WE'RE HAPPY TO CORRECT IT. WE WILL CORRECT IT.
OKAY. IF IT WAS IN THAT BOX, WE WILL. IF THERE WAS AN OVERSIGHT, WE WILL CORRECT IT. THEY SHOULD
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HAVE GOTTEN CREDIT FOR PAYING ON TIME. THEY SHOULD HAVE, BECAUSE I HAD A RESIDENT. SHE.AND THAT WAS THE ISSUE BECAUSE WHEN SHE CAME THAT MONDAY, YEAH, THAT EVERYTHING WAS STILL IN THE BOX. YEAH. AND WHEN SHE SPOKE TO THE STAFF, IT WAS A SITUATION. OKAY. SO WE REALLY GOTTA FIX THAT. YES, MA'AM. I MEAN, WE WILL WE WILL DO THAT. YEAH. IF THERE'S CERTAIN PARTICULARS YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH ME AFTER THE MEETING, I WILL BE HAPPY TO DO IT. OKAY.
YES, MA'AM. SOUNDS GOOD. YES. VICE MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE FINAL TAX INCENTIVE. SURE. COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THE $816,950 TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX INCENTIVE GRANT? THE CONTRACTUAL BASIS FOR THAT PAYMENT, HOW THE AMOUNT WAS CALCULATED, HOW LONG THIS OBLIGATION CONTINUES, AND WHAT NET TAX REVENUE THE VILLAGE RECEIVES FROM FPNL AFTER MAKING THE PAYMENT. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE THE ONE ONE PART OF YOUR QUESTION. I'D HAVE TO GO IN AND LOOK UP. BUT TO EXPLAIN THE DETAILS OF THIS, THIS AGREEMENT WITH FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT GOES BACK, I BELIEVE, TO 1991. IT'S IT GOES WAY BACK. IT STARTED WITH THE COUNTY. AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT HAS DONE IS THEY HAVE, I BELIEVE, DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AROUND THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHERE THEY MAINTAIN INVENTORY FOR THEIR VARIOUS POWER DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES. ONE OF THEM IS IN COLLIER COUNTY.
COLLIER COUNTY HAS HISTORICALLY HAD A VERY LOW TAX RATE. FLORIDA POWER LIGHT KEEPS A LOT OF INVENTORY AND PROPERTY OVER THERE. THEY DEFINITELY HAVE A BUSINESS PURPOSE AND NEED, I THINK, TO TO MAINTAIN INVENTORY HERE AT THE VILLAGE. BUT THEY'RE A BUSINESS. THEY'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN ECONOMIC, YOU KNOW, PARITY WITH DOING BUSINESS HERE VERSUS COLLIER COUNTY. SO WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS GOING BACK TO THE 90S, THE COUNTY AGREED TO REBATE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THE TANGIBLE PROPERTY TAX THAT THEY PAY TO TRY TO EQUATE WHAT THE TOTAL TAXES THAT THEY PAY IN COLLIER COUNTY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT COLLIER COUNTY'S MILLAGE RATE IS RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S INCREDIBLY LOW. IT'S I THINK IT'S 1.1 MILLS OR ONE POINT.
IT'S REALLY LOW. AND THE REASON FOR THAT, IT'S VERY UNIQUE. THEY HAVE THEY THEY HAVE 85% OF THEIR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ARE NOT HOMESTEADED. THEY HAVE A LOT OF VERY AFFLUENT PEOPLE WHO ARE OVER THERE. THERE'S NOT HOMESTEADING. AND SO BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE OVER THEIR THEIR MILLAGE RATE IS PRETTY LOW. SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE HIGHER TAX RATES.
THEY HAVE USED THAT AS A NEGOTIATING TOOL FOR YEARS. THE VILLAGE INHERITED THAT UPON INCORPORATION. I THINK MR. BOWLES CERTAINLY WAS THE PERSON WHO EXECUTED THE TRANSFER OF THE AGREEMENT FROM MARTIN COUNTY TO THE VILLAGE. WE CURRENTLY HAVE, I THINK, A FOUR YEAR AGREEMENT WITH FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT RIGHT NOW THAT IS SCHEDULED TO BE RENEWED OR SUNSETTED, WHATEVER, IN 2028. I DON'T RECALL THE EXACT MONTH, BUT WHAT IT'S BASED ON IS THEIR LARGEST TANGIBLE PROPERTY PARCEL RIGHT OVER HERE ON MARKET STREET IS WORTH, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE BILLION DOLLARS IS WHAT THEY KEEP OVER THERE. AND THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL ID, THE AGREEMENT IS THAT WE WILL REBATE 55% OF THE TANGIBLE AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX ON THAT PARCEL, AND WE KEEP 45%. SO THAT HAS BEEN THE AGREEMENT AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE. AND REALLY, I THINK AS LONG AS THEY'VE BEEN DOING BUSINESS IN MARTIN COUNTY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OTHER TPP PARCELS THEY HAVE IN MARTIN COUNTY BESIDES THIS ONE. I THINK A COUPLE, I THINK A FEW THERE'S MAYBE DIFFERENT. THIS IS FAR AND AWAY THEIR LARGEST PARCEL IN THE COUNTY AND IT'S IN THE VILLAGE LIMITS. SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE BASIS FOR IT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE USING IT AS A NEGOTIATING TOOL TO TRY TO MAINTAIN PARITY WITH THE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT THEY'RE DOING BUSINESS. AND FOR THE VILLAGE, IT'S BEEN I THINK PEOPLE CAN CALL IT WHAT THEY WANT, SAY WHAT THEY WANT. IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLE BENEFIT TO US. ON ITS FACE, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT RIGHT. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TAX DISTRIBUTION THAT WE HAVE FOR THE REST OF THE TAX BASE, WE WE NEED IT. WE DON'T HAVE A TAX BASE LIKE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TO BE ABLE TO OFFSET AGAINST THAT. YOU KNOW, IT IS AGAIN, STILL TO THIS DAY, 84% OF OUR ENTIRE TAX BASE. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE CORNERSTONE OF REALLY WHERE WHAT THEIR NEGOTIATING POSITION IS, IS THAT THE VILLAGE RIGHT NOW DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF OTHER TAXABLE VALUE TO OBTAIN AD VALOREM REVENUE. AND AGAIN, THEY'RE TRYING TO THEY'RE IN BUSINESS, RIGHT? THEY'RE SMART PEOPLE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO VERY GENEROUS PEOPLE. THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD TO THE VILLAGE, TOO. I THINK ON MORE THINGS THAN I CAN EVER TESTIFY TO. BUT THEY THAT'S THAT'S THE BASIS OF IT. IT'S, IT'S AN AGREEMENT THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR THREE DECADES. THE VILLAGE INHERITED IT AT SOME POINT, POST INCORPORATION.
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WE'VE MAINTAINED IT. WE RENEWED IT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. I THINK WE'RE IN MIDPOINT OF THE RENEWAL. IT SUNSETS IN 2028 OR RENEWS. AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'LL BE A COUNCIL DECISION AT THAT TIME, WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. BUT BASED ON THE INFORMATION I'M TELLING YOU TODAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU REPLACE IT WITH QUITE LITERALLY. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE PROBLEM. AND THAT'S THAT'S HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. AND MIKE, VICE MAYOR, I CAN GIVE JUST A LITTLE BIT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THAT JUST TO TO REFINE THAT A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE AS MIKE ALLUDED TO, WHEN THE VILLAGE FIRST STARTED, I WAS INVOLVED WITH THE FIRST AGREEMENT THAT THE VILLAGE HAD, AND THEN THE RENEWAL THAT'S IN EFFECT NOW THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2028, A JUST TWEAK WHAT MIKE HAD HAD MENTIONED THERE. IT IS THE CASE THAT THERE WAS A TPP GRANT AGREEMENT, IN EFFECT WITH MARTIN COUNTY ALL THE WAY BACK TO, I THINK, 1991. THERE IS STILL ONE BETWEEN FPL AND MARTIN COUNTY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT HAS STAYED ON THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE TIME. WHEN THE VILLAGE WAS ■INCORPORATED, KIND OF UPSET THE APPLE CART A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU HAD A WHOLE NEW MILLAGE COMING IN WITH REGARD TO ALL OF THIS. AND SO WHEN THAT HAPPENED, IT ENDED UP BEING THAT A NEW MARTIN COUNTY TPP GRANT AGREEMENT WAS PUT TOGETHER, AND THEN A VILLAGE, ONE THAT TRACKED THE SAME TERMS THAT HAD BEEN IN EFFECT WITH REGARD TO MARTIN COUNTY FOR DECADES, WAS PUT IN PLACE BY THE VILLAGE AT THAT TIME, AND THEN IT'S PROCEEDED ON. NOW, THE CURRENT TERM OF IT IS THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2028.ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. I GOT QUITE A BIT, SO STICK WITH ME. THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO SAY IS, TO YOUR POINT OF THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION THAT'S TAKING PLACE IN NOVEMBER, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN VILLAGE.
THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, START LOOKING AT DIVERSIFYING OUR TAX BASE. BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT IF P AND L TODAY, IT MAY BE THIS HOME EXEMPTION TWO I WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS WATER AND SEWER INCREASE. WE NOTICED THAT THE THE I'M I'M ASSUMING BECAUSE OF THIS RATE STUDY, THAT THE LATE FEE WENT FROM 5 TO 35. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS IN THE STUDY OR IF THAT WAS A NUMBER THAT WAS DRAWN OUT. BUT MY QUESTION IS, IF WE'RE MEETING THE BUDGET AND ABOVE THE THE BUDGET LINE AND WE HAVE GOTTEN METERS TO READ ACCURATELY. WHY WOULD WE HAVE THIS RATE INCREASE? AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT A DEBT. WAS THAT THE DEBT FROM WHEN WE PURCHASED THE WATER PLANT BACK, BACK, BACK THEN? OKAY. SO THAT'S THAT THE 12, $12.6 MILLION YOU WERE REFERRING TO THAT? NO, THAT IS THE NEW LOAN THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. SO THE ORIGINAL ACQUISITION LOAN WAS 8.5 MILLION FOR WATER AND SEWER, WHICH HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS SINCE BASICALLY SEPTEMBER OF 2020. WE'VE ADDED A COUPLE LOANS SINCE THEN. WE DID A MASTER PLANNING LOAN, OKAY. AND FOR WATER AND ANOTHER MASTER PLANNING LOAN FOR WASTEWATER. THEY WERE MUCH SMALLER. I THINK ONE WAS $1 MILLION. THE OTHER ONE WAS MAYBE 5 OR 600,000. THOSE HAVE A SHORTER REPAYMENT TERM. I BELIEVE THOSE ARE TEN YEARS. THE ONE THAT WE HAVE NOW IS A CONSTRUCTION LOAN, BECAUSE WE'VE DONE ALL THE PLANNING FOR REHABILITATION AND UPGRADES TO THE EXISTING WATER PLANT. THE CONSTRUCTION, THE THE CONSTRUCTION LOAN IS 12.6 MILLION. SO THAT IS AGAIN, THAT'S BASICALLY THE SAME TERMS HAVE BEEN AFFORDED TO US FOR THE CONSTRUCTION LOAN, FOR THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE WATER PLANT THAT WAS GIVEN TO US AS PART OF THE ACQUISITION. IT'S A TWO THIRDS FORGIVENESS, ONE THIRD REPAYMENT. OKAY. SO THAT IS THAT IS AGAIN, THAT DEBT IS NOT YET IN REPAYMENT STATUS. IT WILL NOT IT WILL NOT BE IN REPAYMENT STATUS UNTIL 2028 OR SO UNTIL ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE DONE. AT THAT POINT IN TIME, DEBT SERVICE WILL INCREASE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, TO 307,000 PER YEAR PLUS MORE MORE THAN WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE NOW. SO, OKAY, AS FAR AS YOUR QUESTION, IF I'M TO MAKE SURE I'M REMEMBERING EVERYTHING, WHY DO WE NEED THE INCREASE? NOW? LISTEN, I THINK THE COST OF UTILITY IS NOT DECREASING.
YEAH. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, OUR CONTRACTORS, VENDORS, EMPLOYEES, EVERYTHING COSTS MONEY. SO, YOU KNOW, I SHOWED REALLY, I THINK THROUGH AUDIT NUMBERS AND CURRENT YEAR BUDGET AND SOME, SOME PROJECTIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT ESSENTIALLY KIND OF HOLDING WATER RIGHT NOW, BUT STILL NOT REALLY FULLY MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE UTILITY IN THE YEARS TO COME. AND THINGS THAT I'VE MENTIONED, WE DON'T HAVE A FUND FOR RENEWAL REPLACEMENT. WE'RE NOT FUNDING THAT. WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL COMPLEMENT OF STAFF OUT THERE. THERE'S STILL MORE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY NEED TO PURCHASE OUT THERE. YOU KNOW, WE WE HAVE WATER MAINS AND ALL
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KINDS OF OTHER STUFF THAT'S GOING TO BREAK AND NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. SO IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE STANDING STILL, YOU'RE GOING BACKWARDS, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, WHAT WE DID WITH WATER AND SEWER RATES IN 2024 WAS TO REALLY KIND OF BRING UTILITY RATES UP TO, I BELIEVE, THE REGIONAL MEDIAN AROUND ACTUALLY A LITTLE LOWER. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE LOWER THAN CITY. STEWART. WE WERE IN THE BOTTOM QUARTILE OF RATES PRIOR TO THE RATE ADJUSTMENT. WE'RE KIND OF MORE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK AS FAR AS WHAT RATES ARE NOW. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CONCUR THAT AS THINGS ARE AS WE GET FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY FROM THAT ORIGINAL RATE STUDY, IT'S PROBABLY TIME TO DO ANOTHER ONE AND TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEING HONEST AND TRUE WITH WHAT THE RATES SHOULD BE, AND THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT AND TO AND TO HAVE THAT FULLY PRESENTED TO YOU TO EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE FACTS ARE AND WHAT'S ACTUALLY NEEDED OUT THERE AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO KEEP THIS UTILITY IN GOOD OPERATING CONDITION, YOU KNOW, FOR YEARS TO COME. SO I ON THAT POINT, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. WELL, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT WE GOT TO RECONSIDER, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING THAT 60% OF AMERICANS ARE LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK. AND, AND WE AS THE COUNCIL DON'T WANT TO OVERBURDEN THEM BECAUSE IF YOUR LIGHT BILL IS $35, YOU CAN'T PAY IT. HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO PAY THE LATE FEE? SO IF WE COULD MAYBE GET A RATE STUDY OR SOMETHING TO REVISIT WHAT THAT NUMBER LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT TAXING THE RESIDENTS. YOU MENTIONED IN THE 2024 WAS THE ONLY YEAR THAT THE COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS FAILED. IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR REASON WHY? I MEAN, OUR NET REVENUES WERE JUST SIMPLY NOT SUFFICIENT TO TO MEET THAT THAT COVERAGE TEST. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A NET OPERATING LOSS THAT YEAR. WE HAD HAD ONE, I THINK, IN 2021 OR 2 THAT WAS THAT'S BEEN THE SYMPTOM OF NOT REALLY HAVING ENOUGH REVENUE CAPACITY TO MEET, YOU KNOW, REQUIREMENTS TO RUN THE UTILITY. SO THAT WAS A YEAR WHERE WE WERE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT OUR RATES AND REVAMPING OUR RATES. AGAIN, IT HAD BEEN A DECADE SINCE RATES HAD CHANGED. THAT'S NOT NORMAL. UTILITIES DON'T USUALLY SIT STILL FOR TEN YEARS. IT DOES HAPPEN. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DO THAT IS YOU HAVE SITUATIONS LIKE WHAT WE HAD IS YOU HAVE SIGNIFICANT ADJUSTMENTS TO DO A CATCH UP. WE HAD THE DOUBLE WHAMMY OF MASSIVE INFLATION DURING THAT TIME AS WELL. SO IT WAS NOT A TYPICAL ADJUSTMENT WE HAD. WE HAD TO CATCH UP FOR ALL THE LOST YEARS WHERE THERE WERE NO ADJUSTMENT, PLUS THEN DO SIGNIFICANT CATCH UP TO JUST GET TO EVEN WITH WHERE COST OF BUSINESS WAS. AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE ALL, YOU KNOW, DOCUMENTED IN THE RATE STUDY. AND THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT THAT FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME, THEY DID APPROVE THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I GO BACK TO MY SLIDES WITH THE STATE REVOLVING FUND. YOU KNOW, WE'VE TAKEN $8.5 MILLION REQUIRED UTILITY. WE'VE TAKEN ANOTHER MILLION PLUS IN PLANNING LOANS. NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER 12.6 MILLION. THEY WANT US TO BE IN GOOD FINANCIAL STANDING TO NOT ONLY PAY THAT MONEY BACK, BUT THEY WANT THIS UTILITY TO BE MAINTAINED. THEY DO NOT WANT IT TO FALL INTO DISREPAIR. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN A RATE STRUCTURE AND A REVENUE STREAM AND COST STRUCTURE THAT IS GOING TO ACCOMPLISH ALL OF THOSE THINGS AT THE SAME TIME. SO AS WE, AS WE LOOK AT THAT, HAVE WE TAKEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT ALL THE POSSIBLE WAYS THAT WE CAN LOWER THIS RATE? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PULLING, PULLING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, RESOURCES FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE WATER COMPANY. WELL, I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL I MEAN, BEFORE I JUST GO BACK TO 24, I THINK MR. NOLAN WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK TO. I THINK ALMOST ALL HIS GUYS WERE OUT THERE DOING DISCONNECTS FOR A FULL DAY AT OVERTIME FOR THE NON-PAYMENTS. YOU KNOW, HE WAS AT TIMES DEALING WITH 60 AND 80 CUSTOMERS WHO WERE NOT WHO WERE NOT PAYING. AND THAT AGAIN, THAT WAS BEFORE WE DID THE RATE ADJUSTMENTS WITH THE $5 LATE FEE. HE ONLY HAS SO MANY PLACES TO PULL FROM. HE DOESN'T HAVE AN ENDLESS SUPPLY OF STAFF. HE'S GOT THEM IN THE PLANTS IN THE FIELD. YOU KNOW, HE'S GOT OTHER EMERGENCIES. HE'S GOT A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON OUT THERE.AND ON TOP OF THAT, HE'S GOT PROJECTS THAT HE'S MANAGING TOO. SO HE'S PULLED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND I COMMEND HIM FOR THAT. I THINK IT'S IT'S HE'S GOT NO HE DOES NOT HAVE AN EASY JOB OUT THERE. HE DOES NOT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M DISPELLING ANY CONNOTATION THAT THERE'S AMPLE OTHER RESOURCES THAT ARE NOT BEING TAPPED INTO TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITHOUT IMPACT ON, ON THE RESIDENTS. I THINK WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TRY TO MINIMIZE IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTS. I DO ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT PART OF THE IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTS IS MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE PAYS WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, AND WHEN WE HAVE 1 IN 4 CUSTOMERS WHO ARE NOT PAYING, THAT IMPACTS EVERYBODY. SO THAT THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT I THINK WE HAVE TO NOT LOSE SIGHT OF AS WELL. AND WE HAVE LARGELY TACKLED THAT PROBLEM SINCE 2024. WELL, I DEFINITELY THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT. SO IF WE COULD MAYBE DO A GET A RATE STUDY OR SOMETHING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE ARE IN A
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POSITION TO REEVALUATE THE LATE FEES AND RECONNECTION FEES. MY NEXT QUESTION IS I WANTED TO HEAR YOU MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU RIGHT. DID YOU SAY THAT TARA LAGO'S DIGGING THEIR OWN? WELL, YEAH, I BELIEVE THEY'RE BUILDING A THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING AN IRRIGATION, IRRIGATION, IRRIGATION AND IRRIGATION. WELL, RIGHT. FOR PLANTINGS. AND AND JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, IS ANY VILLAGE FUNDS GOING TOWARDS THAT? NO. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. NO. HAVE WE DONE AN ANALYSIS? I KNOW YOU HAD IT IN YOUR REPORT OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE NEED VERSUS THE POSITIONS THAT WE DESIRE OR WANT TO HAVE. WE HAVE CERTAINLY, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SCHEDULE OF VACANCIES THAT ARE UNFUNDED, I MEAN, THOSE ARE CERTAINLY POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD ON THE BOOKS IN THE PAST. WE'RE NOT FUNDING THEM BECAUSE MAYBE THEY'RE DESIRED, BUT WE CAN'T WE CAN'T AFFORD THEM, AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO FUND THEM. SO THE POSITIONS THAT WE NEED ARE CURRENTLY FUNDED, AND POSITIONS THAT WE NEED ARE BEING REQUESTED TO BE FUNDED IN THIS YEAR. SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A MUNICIPALITY RIGHT NOW OF, I BELIEVE, 37 OR 39 EMPLOYEES ON, ON THE BOOKS. I DON'T THINK WE'RE DEALING WITH STAFF WHO DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO. I THINK EVERYONE IN THE VILLAGE WEARS MULTIPLE HATS, MYSELF INCLUDED.I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I THINK I THINK THOSE ISSUES HAVE BEEN PRETTY, PRETTY THOROUGHLY ADDRESSED. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS THIS. I NOTICED THAT IN THE PARKS AND REC, THERE'S BUDGETED $50,000 FOR A DOG PARK. CAN WE REVISIT THAT? I THINK AS WE WE HAVE STUDENTS RIGHT NOW THAT DON'T HAVE UNIFORMS MATCHING UNIFORMS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IN THE TRUST FUND WHEN WE GET THERE. BUT I WOULD WANT TO PULL THAT ITEM AND LET'S FIND SOMETHING MORE PRODUCTIVE TO DO. I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WITH STRAY DOGS, AND WE KNOW THAT MARTIN COUNTY DON'T LIKE TO COME OUT TO INDIANTOWN. AND SO, YOU KNOW, TO STOP A PROBLEM, I THINK WE SHOULD MAYBE ELIMINATE THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THINK, BUT BUT THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON THAT. AND THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY, MISS COUNCILWOMAN. COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ. THANK YOU. YES. SO I DID SEE IN YOUR REPORT THAT YOU HAVE DEBT SERVICES, BUT THERE WAS NO NUMBER, NOT IN THE WASTE SECTION. IT WAS MORE IN THE I. I MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.
BUT YEAH, THE, THE ONLY ACTUAL DEBT SERVICE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS UTILITY FUND ONLY. YEAH. AT ABOUT, I THINK IT'S 177,000. YEAH. AND YOU ALSO HAVE MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES OR EXPENSES. WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT. SOME OF THOSE ARE PRIOR YEAR REFUNDS OR, OR RETURNS OF, OF PAYMENTS THAT ARE NOT OFFSET IN THE CURRENT YEAR THERE. SOMETIMES WE GET SOME SMALL GRANTS FROM OUR INSURER SAFETY GRANTS. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S QUITE LITERALLY NOT ESSENTIALLY NOT SPECIFICALLY CLASSIFIED IN ANY OF OUR OTHER CHART OF ACCOUNTS. THEY KIND OF JUST DON'T REALLY FALL THERE. IT'S USUALLY SMALL. THIS YEAR, WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE, IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T IT DIDN'T FALL AGAIN. IT DIDN'T FALL IN ANY, ANY PARTICULAR BUCKET. AND THAT WAS THE $75,000 THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE LAND BUYER FOR THE CONTRACT FOR OUR CURRENT VILLAGE HALL, WHICH IS OUR CURRENT OUR CURRENT VILLAGE HALL. BUT FOR THE PARCEL THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DESIGNATED FOR THE FUTURE VILLAGE HALL, THE FIVE ACRE PARCEL OVER THERE ON WARFIELD, WE HAD MET THE TERM OF THE OF THE HOLDING PERIOD FOR THAT FOR $75,000. AND THAT THAT MONEY IS IS WAS CLASSIFIED AS MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE IN CURRENT YEAR. SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE. PLEASE VICE MAYOR. AND THEN ALSO YOU, YOU HAVE THE I DO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER DOWLING IN REGARDS TO THE $50,000 DOG PARK. SO IF WE CAN REVISIT THAT, THAT QUESTION THAT BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT. PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WOULD PREFER THOSE $50,000 TO BE INVESTED INTO LIKE A SIDEWALK INTO GETTING SOMETHING ELSE, BUT NOT ONTO A DOG PARK. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN. AND ALSO THE OTHER, THE OTHER ITEM, THE LAST ITEM I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS, I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE LIKE A RISK MANAGEMENT POSITION
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JUST SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE AN AUDITOR ON HOLD ALL THE TIME. AND SO THAT WOULD HELP WITH TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE PUT IN THE RIGHT SECTION. AND EACH DEPARTMENT. SO I DO I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT HAVING A RISK MANAGEMENT SLASH AUDITOR OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO BE PUT INTO THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. FOR THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR. FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR COMING UP. DO YOU KNOW WHERE WE GET THE FUNDS TO PAY THAT SALARY? WHERE CAN WE PULL THE FUNDS FROM TO PAY THAT SALARY? THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT. MR. FINANCIAL DIRECTOR COULDN'T TELL US ON HOW WE CAN. WE CAN DO IT AS A PART TIME. WE CAN DO IT AS A CONTRACTING IF WE DON'T WANT TO PAY BENEFITS. I DO THINK THAT WE. THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN. AS A COUNCIL, WE. WE OWE IT TO OUR COMMUNITY. EVERYONE EXPRESSED TRANSPARENCY AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO SEE IN. LIKE MARTIN COUNTY, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE CHECKS PUBLICLY, ALL THE CHECKS THAT GO OUT FOR THE WEEK OR FOR THE MONTH. SO I THINK DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD HELP. SO PEOPLE WE DON'T HAVE TO, OR THE RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE TO TARGET OR NOT TARGET, BUT ASK THE STAFF MEMBERS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY BUSY AS IT IS.SO I DO THINK HAVING A RISK MANAGEMENT SLASH AUDITOR WOULD HELP IN THAT SITUATION. SO, MR. FINANCIAL DIRECTOR, HE COULD PROBABLY TELL US WHAT HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THANK YOU.
ONE THING THAT WE DO HAVE. THAT EXISTS EXISTING SOFTWARE. I MENTIONED THIS IN EARLY JULY.
WE HAVE A MODULE CALLED TYLER SOCRATA, WHICH IS A TRANSPARENCY MODEL BUDGET TO ACTUAL. SO I'VE HAD SOME ISSUES PULLING BACK SOME TIME FROM THE TYLER CONSULTANT TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE, BUT IT DOES THOSE EXACT THINGS. IT HAS A CHECKBOOK. IT HAS DETAILED PAYMENT LISTINGS AND ANY, ANY RESIDENT CAN, CAN, CAN LOOK AT THAT. I WAS REALLY PUSHING TO BE DONE BY LATE JULY, EARLY AUGUST. RIGHT NOW. I ACTUALLY HAD ANOTHER MEETING WITH THEM TODAY. IT'S WE'RE GOING TO BE ONLINE. WE'RE GOING TO BE LIVE WITH THAT. IT'S, IT'S REALLY AT THIS POINT, WEEK TO WEEK. BUT, BUT THAT LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY AND THOSE DETAILS OUT THERE ARE ARE FORTHCOMING, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WITHIN THE TYLER SYSTEM THAT WE. YES, YES. OKAY. VICE MAYOR, THANK YOU. STAYING ON TOPIC WITH PARKS AND RECS, I HAVE A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITIES. WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS INCLUDED IN THE $50,000 PARKS PER PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITIES BUDGET, AND WHAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE INCREASE FROM $10,000? I THINK OUR PARKS DIRECTOR LIKES TO CLASSIFY A LOT OF THINGS THAT SHE DOES WITH CERTAIN EVENTS, YOU KNOW, FAMILY FUN DAY THINGS REGARDING EASTER, SUMMERTIME EVENTS THAT SHE DOES. SHE LIKES TO CLASSIFY THOSE AS PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITIES, PROBABLY HISTORICALLY IN THE BUDGET. THOSE WERE JUST MAYBE OPERATING SUPPLIES OR SOMETHING TO THAT NATURE. BUT SHE HAS DECIDED, YOU KNOW, AND WHICH IS PERFECTLY FINE THAT SHE WANTS TO CLASSIFY, IT'S ESSENTIALLY REALLY MORE NOT AN EXTRA SPENDING, BUT RECLASSIFICATION OF HISTORICAL SPENDING INTO THAT CATEGORY FOR CERTAIN EVENTS THAT SHE DOES. FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHE DID EARLY THIS YEAR, WE HAD A HERITAGE FESTIVAL OUT AT THE TIME OF POWERS PARK, AND A LOT OF THE EXPENDITURES THAT SHE HAD OUT THERE FOR CERTAIN VENDOR PAYMENTS, OTHER ASPECTS THAT SHE HAD PAYMENTS TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR DETAIL. SHE SHE CLASSIFIED A LOT OF THAT AS PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITIES BECAUSE IT WAS SPECIFIC TO CERTAIN COMMUNITY EVENTS. I THINK THAT'S JUST HER PREFERENCE. PERFECTLY FINE WITH ME DOING THAT. THANK YOU.
ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS IN REGARDS TO THE ALL FUNDS SUMMARY. THE TENTATIVE BUDGET SHOWS APPROXIMATELY $44.94 MILLION IN REVENUE, COMPARED WITH APPROXIMATELY 43.49 MILLION IN EXPENDITURES, WHICH APPEARS TO LEAVE A DIFFERENCE OF ROUGHLY $1.4 MILLION. I
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WOULD LIKE YOU TO WALK COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THROUGH THAT DIFFERENCE. SURE. WELL, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND THAT SHOWS YOUR NUMBERS PERSON. SO THAT'S GREAT. THAT MAKES ME REALLY HAPPY. SO THE THE REASON FOR THAT, THOSE NUMBERS, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FUNDS IN THE VILLAGE THAT ARE NEWER. ONE IS THE DISCRETIONARY SALES TAX FUND AND THE OTHER IS MOBILITY FEES. SO MOBILITY FEES ARE LIKE TRANSPORTATION RELATED THAT WE COLLECT ESSENTIALLY AN IMPACT FEE. AND THE DISCRETIONARY SALES TAX IS WHAT WE'RE GETTING FOR ALSO FOR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ACQUISITION OF SENSITIVE LANDS. WHAT WHAT HAVE YOU. SO THE, THE IMPACT FEE THAT WE BUDGETED IN CURRENT YEAR. SO ESSENTIALLY I HAVE MONEY BUDGETED ON THE REVENUE SIDE. I DID NOT BUDGET SPENDING. SO I BUDGETED $600,000 FOR IMPACT FEES, MOBILITY FEES. AND THEN I BUDGETED $800,000 FOR DISCRETIONARY SALES TAX. I DID NOT BUDGET ANY SPENDING. WE PROBABLY WILL. IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO WITH THAT. SOME OF THE IMPACT FEES. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF PUBLIC WORKS HAS A NEED TO DO SOME INTERSECTION, YOU KNOW, REHABILITATION OR THEY'RE GOING TO ADD SOME BIKE LANES OR DO SOMETHING TO EXPAND CAPACITY WITH TRANSPORTATION, WE'LL USE THOSE MOBILITY FEES. I JUST DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO, TO BUDGET ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE. AND SINCE WE ARE COLLECTING MONEY IN THOSE FUNDS, I ALSO HAVE AN ALLOCATION OF INTEREST INCOME. SO THAT IS THAT IS THE TOTAL DIFFERENCE AND GOOD CATCH. BUT THERE'S A REASON FOR IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. YEAH. COUNCIL.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DIRECTION DIRECTORS. I GOT ONE OTHER QUESTION. HOW SENSITIVE IS THIS BUDGET TO DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY. IF BUILDING PERMITS AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW REVENUE FALL MATERIALLY BELOW PROJECTIONS, WHAT EXPENDITURES WOULD BE AFFECTED? WELL, I THINK IF THEY FALL MATERIALLY BELOW, THAT'S GOING TO RESULT IN, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN CONTRACTED SERVICES THAT WON'T BE UTILIZED TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY ARE NOW PART OF THE BUILDING ACTIVITY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY THAT WE HAVE ALSO INCLUDES PAYING FOR A BUILDING OFFICIAL WITH MARTIN COUNTY. SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY INSPECTIONS, IF WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY BUILDINGS THAT NEED CO OR HOME OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WE WON'T PAY FOR THAT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN ADJUSTMENT. THERE'S A KIND OF GIVE AND TAKE WITH THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CERTAIN CORE LEVEL OF SERVICE IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN. BUT CERTAINLY WITH THE EBB AND FLOW OF ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, WILL WE'LL BE ABLE TO TO PULL BACK AS NECESSARY. ONE MORE QUESTION. SO. WITH THE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THERE WAS $500,000. THAT WAS, I GUESS, ALLOCATED FOR THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
YEAH. AND SO CAN WE RECEIVE A BREAKDOWN BY CONSULTING CONTRACT, ANTICIPATED PROJECT.
AND THE PURPOSE OF FOR THAT. SURE. I MEAN, WE, YOU KNOW, WHAT I, WHAT I, WHAT I DID WITH THAT BUDGET NUMBER IS WE KIND OF EXTRAPOLATED WHAT OUR CURRENT SPENDING IS AND THEN KIND OF JUST MOVE THAT UP BASED ON WHAT, WHAT LIKELY ACTIVITY WILL BE. I MEAN, I COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT. THIS NUMBER DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY, WELL, X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FOR THIS CONSULTANT OR THAT CONSULTANT. WE HAVE A HISTORICAL WE HAVE HISTORICAL NUMBERS IN OUR GENERAL LEDGER THAT SHOW WHAT WE PAID FOR THOSE CONSULTANTS CURRENT YEAR, BUT BASED ON ACTIVITY FOR NEXT YEAR. THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE ARE INCREASING THAT. BUT CERTAINLY IF YOU WANT IF YOU WANT AN ITEMIZATION OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THAT TO BE, BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU. THANK YOU. MR. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MARK. OKAY. THANK YOU. MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM. THE FIRST IS TIM MULLIN. GOOD
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MORNING OR GOOD EVENING? FOR THE RECORD, I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE SO LONG I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME OF DAY IT IS. EVERYBODY IN HERE SYMPATHETIC. AND ON BEHALF OF MY WIFE, CASEY, WHICH YOU KNOW, SHE'S WATCHING. ALRIGHT, CONGRATULATIONS. ALRIGHT. WONDERFUL JOB. AND WE HOPE THAT IT IS TRULY A BRAND NEW DAY BECAUSE SOME DAYS RECENTLY HAVE NOT BEEN NEW AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN FAVORABLE. WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE EVERYONE TO COME SEE ON THE HILLS DAIRY FARM. WE HAVE A MEET AND GREET AND A COMMUNITY INTEREST DAY ON SATURDAY. WE'RE PUTTING UP A TENT. WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE DOING, TRANSPARENCY, A WORD. COME ON ANTHONY, SAY IT WITH ME. TRANSPARENCY. ALL RIGHT. BY THE WAY, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET YOUR RESTAURANT YOU ASKED ME ABOUT I. IT'S NOT ALL DOOM AND GLOOM, FOLKS. I'M TELLING YOU,[02:00:03]
YOU GOT A BAD REPORT. BUT IT'S NOT ALL BAD NEWS. WE'RE WORKING VERY, VERY HARD. THERE'S A RETAIL CORRIDOR COMING. THIS WILL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR AD VALOREM HOUSING TAX BASE. NICE NEW REVENUE. AND WE'RE HOPING TO GET GOING HERE. LOW AND BEHOLD, MY ATTORNEY SHOWED UP HERE. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HE WAS COMING. TYSON WATERS, WE'RE ADDING NEW COUNSEL TO THE RECORD. ETHAN LOEB OUT OF TAMPA IS COMING TO TOWN TO HELP ME GET THIS THIS LAND DEAL ROLLING TONIGHT, MY FRIEND, PARTNER, I DON'T KNOW. JOHN HALES, ALL RIGHT. THE HALES FAMILY'S BEEN HERE FOR DECADES. EVERYBODY'S SHAKING THEIR HEAD LIKE THEY KNOW HIM.HE CAME. HE'S NOT GOING TO SPEAK TONIGHT, BUT HE IS GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT OUR PROJECT ON SATURDAY. AND WE'RE GIVING TOURS OF THE PROPERTY. HARD QUESTIONS. ASK ME, FOLKS.
THERE'S OPPORTUNITY COMING, AND IT'S NOT NEW HOUSES THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE. THE AD VALOREM COMMERCIAL JOBS, REAL JOBS. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JOBS THAT ARE MEANINGLESS, RIGHT? OR DON'T PAY 18 BUCKS AN HOUR. HOW ABOUT THAT? ALL RIGHT. WE ARE LOOKING AT A NEW DAY AND WE'RE HOPING YOU'RE WITH US. COME SEE ME ON SATURDAY. I'LL BE UNDER THE BIG TENT. I HAVE MY FRIEND. YOU'RE NOT MY PARTNER. AT LEAST MY FRIEND. RIGHT? I SEE EVEN GAVE UP ON THAT. WE WARM DOWN TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT, I'M DOWN TO 21 SECONDS. CONGRATULATIONS. I'LL SEE YOU GUYS. HOPEFULLY SATURDAY. MR. MULLINS, WHAT TIME ON SATURDAY STARTS AT 11. AND WE HAVE ALL THE RENDERINGS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF TO SHOW YOU. EXCITING TIMES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. DEAN. RIGHT. PUT MY DRESS DOWN, Y'ALL. PROBABLY BEING A GRANDMA. GENE GASKINS RIGHT. FOR THE RECORD. FIRST OF ALL CONGRATULATIONS Y'ALL. WELCOME HOME. WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. BEFORE WE WERE A VILLAGE, WE WERE A TOWN, AND WE'RE STILL A TOWN. WE'RE A TOWN THAT CARES VERY, VERY, VERY MUCH ABOUT EACH OTHER. WE'RE UNLIKE ANY OTHER TOWN I'VE EVER SEEN, UNLIKE ANY OTHER TOWN I'VE EVER VISITED. IF THERE'S A SICKNESS, WE'RE THERE. IF THERE'S A DEATH, WE'RE THERE. IF THERE'S A CELEBRATION, WE'RE THERE. WE'RE FAMILY HERE. WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. REMEMBER YOUR PEOPLE WHO ARE ALSO OUTSIDE OF THE VILLAGE. WE ARE STILL THE TOWN, AND WE STILL CARE. AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL DO AFFECTS EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THIS TOWN, FROM THIS BABY UP TO THE OLDEST PERSON IN THIS TOWN, WE ARE ALL AFFECTED. WE THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. WE'RE PROUD OF YOU ALL. WE WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS. WELCOME HOME AND WE LOVE YOU. THANK YOU, KELSEY LEE. HI, KELSEY LEE, FOR THE RECORD, CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR THREE NEWLY ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE RESIDENTS HAVE ENTRUSTED YOU WITH AN IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITY. LISTEN TO US, RESPECT OUR VOICES, AND PUT INDIANTOWN FIRST. MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOU WORK FOR THE RESIDENTS OF INDIANTOWN. THE VILLAGE ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF WORK FOR YOU AND US, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. I ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER'S COMMENTS AFTER SHE LOST HER ELECTION. WHERE SOMEONE LIVES, WHETHER THEY OWN OR RENT, LIVE WITH FAMILY OR IN SUBSIDIZED HOUSING, DOESN'T DETERMINE THEIR ABILITY TO SERVE. WHAT MATTERS IS WHETHER THEY CARE ABOUT INDIANTOWN AND ITS RESIDENTS. QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW LIVING WITH FAMILY OR IN SUBSIDIZED HOUSING IS LESS ACCEPTABLE THAN LIVING IN AN RV AT THE MARINA. BUT THIS ELECTION WASN'T ABOUT YOUR HOUSING STATUS. IT'S ABOUT HOW YOU SERVE. AND THE RESULTS MADE THAT CLEAR. RESIDENTS CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEONE GENUINELY LISTENING AND SIMPLY TRYING TO WIN VOTES WITH A GRILL OUT, TACOS AND ICE CREAM. FOR MONTHS, RESIDENTS SPOKE OUT ABOUT THE PROPOSED HYPERSCALE DATA CENTERS. WE ATTENDED MEETINGS. WE SPOKE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, SENT MESSAGES, RAISED CONCERNS AND ASKED TO BE HEARD. TOO OFTEN WE WERE IGNORED AND DISMISSED, SO INDIAN TOWN DID WHAT IT COULD.
INDIAN TOWN VOTED THE ELECTION, SENT A CLEAR MESSAGE AND RESULTED IN THREE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS. NOT EVERYONE WHO CARES ABOUT INDIAN TOWN LIVES WITHIN THE VILLAGE BOUNDARIES. THOSE
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OF US JUST OUTSIDE STILL LIVE, CARE, RAISE OUR FAMILIES AND CONTRIBUTE. HERE. WE MAY NOT VOTE, BUT WE SPOKE UP. WE SHOWED UP AND WE STILL MATTER. TO THE TWO RETURNING COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE RESIDENTS MESSAGE WAS CLEAR. WHEN IT COMES TO THE HYPERSCALE DATA CENTERS, ONLY ONE OF YOU HAS MOVED TO SLOW THE PROCESS. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. HOLDING A COUNCIL SEAT IS NOT A BLANK CHECK. IT IS A RESPONSIBILITY ENTRUSTED TO YOU BY THE PEOPLE. WE ARE NOT AGAINST GROWTH. WE SUPPORT SMART GROWTH THAT FITS INDIAN TOWN. BUT RESIDENTS MUST COME FIRST, ESPECIALLY WHEN MANY PUSHING FOR HYPERSCALE DATA CENTERS HAVE FINANCIAL OR BUSINESS INTERESTS TIED TO THOSE PROJECTS. WE WILL LIVE WITH THE IMPACT ON OUR ROADS, INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER, ENVIRONMENT, RESOURCES AND QUALITY OF LIFE. THIS IS OUR HOME. WE DON'T GET TO WALK AWAY WHEN THE DEAL IS DONE. THAT'S WHY THIS COUNCIL HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO LOOK BEYOND WHO STANDS TO BENEFIT FINANCIALLY AND ASK ONE IMPORTANT QUESTION WHAT IS TRULY BEST FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE? MARTIN COUNTY HAS NOW AGREED TO THE MORATORIUM. I'M ASKING THIS COUNCIL DO THE SAME. OUTSIDE INTERESTS WILL ALWAYS TRY TO INFLUENCE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. BUT WHEN THOSE INTERESTS CONFLICT WITH WHAT IS BEST FOR INDIAN TOWN, OUR RESIDENTS MUST COME FIRST. INDIAN TOWN NEEDS A COUNCIL THAT LISTENS, RESPECTS ITS RESIDENTS AND PUTS INDIAN TOWN FIRST. I HOPE THE THREE OF YOU WILL BE THAT COUNCIL, AND I HOPE OUR TWO RETURNING MEMBERS TAKE THIS ELECTION'S MESSAGE SERIOUSLY AS WELL. CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN AND WELCOME TO THE COUNCIL. BRANDON TUCKER. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BRANDON TUCKER. I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF SERVING AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE FLORIDA LANDOWNERS ASSOCIATION. I'M A THIRD GENERATION FLORIDIAN. I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN OKEECHOBEE COUNTY, LIVED IN MARTIN COUNTY MY ENTIRE ADULT LIFE. AND MY FAMILY'S HOME RANCH IS RIGHT UP THE ROAD. THE OLD BRADY RANCH, RIGHT UP THE STREET ON 710 THAT'S NOW OWNED BY THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. MAYBE ONE DAY THE DISTRICT WILL ACTUALLY USE THAT PROPERTY FOR WHAT THEY PURCHASED IT FOR. SPEAKING OF THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AS A PAST VICE CHAIR OF THE GOVERNING BOARD OF THE SOUTH FLORIDA MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, BACK WHEN US SENATOR RICK SCOTT WAS OUR GOVERNOR. JUST WANTED TO COME HERE TONIGHT AND JUST CONGRATULATE THE NEW MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE. I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR SERVICE. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN I WAS AT THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT TO SERVE THIS AREA FROM SAINT LUCIE COUNTY ALL THE WAY TO THE FLORIDA KEYS. IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING TIME BACK THEN WHEN WE WERE DEALING WITH A LOT OF ISSUES WITH LAKE OKEECHOBEE AND FRESHWATER DISCHARGES AND AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND I CAN TELL YOU IT WAS A LITTLE BIT CONTROVERSIAL, AND I HAD A LOT OF EMAILS IN MY INBOX OVER 600 AT ONE TIME THAT WERE NOT VERY PLEASANT. I HAD DEATH THREATS TO MY FAMILY. THAT WAS NOT PLEASANT EITHER.BUT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES, JUST ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT YOU JUST BE TRUE TO WHAT YOU BELIEVE. YOU LOOK AT THE FACTS AND YOU GO FROM THERE. BUT FLA IS ABOUT THE PROTECTION OF PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS. THAT'S WHAT WE ADVOCATE FOR THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND I LOOK FORWARD IN OUR ORGANIZATION. LOOKS FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU IN THE FUTURE. SO WELCOME AND CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. JOSH KELLUM. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, JOSH KELLUM GARCIA COMPANIES. CONGRATULATIONS, COUNCILMAN.
CONGRATULATIONS AND CONGRATULATIONS TO COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ AS WELL. FIVE YEARS AGO, WE ALL SAT HERE AND AND WENT AROUND THE COMMUNITY AND TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD DO WITH THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE BOUGHT IN 2020, WHICH WAS A KNOWN AS THE DRY PIECE.
AND IN ALL THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT WE HELD, THE OVERWHELMING FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT WAS TO BUILD ATTAINABLE HOUSING, HOUSING FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN THAT COULD AFFORD AND BUY A HOME IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, AND PEOPLE THAT WERE GROWING UP IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, THAT WOULD HAVE NORMALLY MOVED OUT BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T HAVE AVAILABILITY FOR HOUSING HERE. AND THEN NEW PEOPLE THAT WERE COMING TO THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN AND COUNCIL MEMBER DOWLING AND COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ, WE TALKED A LOT DURING THOSE DAYS ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT WE SHOULD PUT ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE BOUGHT AND HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY ALOUD ABOUT THIS, AND LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL AND ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY AND SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE COULD BE PROUD OF. AND YOU ALL STOOD BEHIND THAT. AND NOW HERE WE ARE FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS LATER, AND LOOKING AT NEW MEMBERS LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY THAT CALL TERRA LAGO HOME, PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN FOR A LIFETIME, AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED INTO THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN THAT NOW ARE PROUD TO CALL INDIANTOWN HOME. AND I JUST WANTED TO STAND UP AND CONGRATULATE YOU ALL AND JUST TALK ABOUT HOW PROUD WE ARE TO BE ABLE TO FULFILL SOMETHING
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THAT WAS NOT ONLY JUST TALKED ABOUT, BUT NOW HAS COME OUT OF THE GROUND AND TO, TO SEE THE TO HAVE THE, THE CARNIVAL THAT WE HAD A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, WHICH THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR ATTENDING. I THINK EVERY ONE OF YOU ALL CAME BY AND IT WAS JUST AMAZING TO SEE A COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER TO SEE AN EVENT THAT BROUGHT PEOPLE OUT OF EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, TO ALL COME AND CONGREGATE AND HAVE A GREAT TIME WITH SMILES ON THEIR FACES AND WATCHING KIDS HAVE A GOOD TIME PLAYING GAMES. AND SO THAT TO ME IS WHAT A COMMUNITY IS ALL ABOUT. COMMUNITY IS ALL ABOUT HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER. COMMUNITY IS ALL ABOUT HOW DO WE ADD VALUE TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AROUND US, THAT LIVE WITH US, THAT THAT CALL INDIANTOWN HOME? AND I'M JUST HONORED TO BE ABLE TO BE A VERY SMALL PART OF, OF HELPING FORGE A VISION FORWARD IN THIS COMMUNITY OF TERRA LAGO AS WELL AS BEYOND, AS WE CONTINUE TO, TO LOOK AT THE DOWNTOWN OF, OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN AND HOW CAN WE HELP CONTINUE TO BRING BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO ADD VALUE AND CAN FILL NEEDS IN MEDICAL AND FOOD, RETAIL AND MANY OTHERS. SO IT'S AN HONOR TO STAND HERE IN FRONT OF YOU. IT'S AN HONOR TO BE WORKING ALONGSIDE YOU ALL IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, AND I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S TO COME WITH WITH THE TERRA LAGO COMMUNITY AND BEYOND. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. LINDA NICCUM. GOOD EVENING. I COULDN'T GET THROUGH ONE MEETING WITHOUT SPEAKING TO YOU ALL. FOR THE RECORD, LINDA NICCUM, CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME TO ALL OF OUR NEW FACES UP HERE. YOU'VE GOT A TOUGH ROAD AHEAD OF YOU ALL, AND I DON'T ENVY YOU SITTING THERE AT ALL. ONE LITTLE PIECE OF, I GUESS YOU WOULD CALL IT HOUSEKEEPING, THAT I WANTED TO GET OFF OF MY CHEST BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER WITH IT. IS THAT TOO OFTEN I SEE EVERYBODY SITTING UP HERE, EITHER DEALING WITH CELL PHONES OR COMPUTERS AND IT. IT LOOKS LIKE THE.THERE'S MORE ATTENTION TO THOSE ITEMS THAN THERE IS TO WHAT IS EITHER BEING SAID OR. AND I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY JUST JUST LIKE YOU ASK THE RESIDENTS TO TURN OFF THEIR CELL PHONES WHEN THEY COME IN THAT WE ASK THE SAME THING OF YOU ALL THAT THAT YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT WE'RE SAYING. AND THAT'S THE END OF MY LECTURE ON THAT. THE EARLIER PRESENTATION FOR TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK MENTIONED THAT SEPTEMBER IS HUNGER ACTION MONTH. TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK HAS BEEN SO FAITHFUL TO INDIAN TOWN FOR MANY YEARS NOW, AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR US TO SHOW OUR APPRECIATION AND GIVE BACK TO TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK. AND I'M PROPOSING THAT IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER THAT THE VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS IN INDIAN TOWN EACH HAVE A FOOD DRIVE. IF YOU CAN CONTRIBUTE ONE BOX OF CEREAL FROM A BOGO SALE, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY EVENTUALLY. I'VE NOT THOUGHT THIS TOTALLY OUT. I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE IDEA OUT THERE AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT CAN BE DEVELOPED. MAYBE EVEN A CONTEST BETWEEN TEROLDEGO AND INDIAN WOOD OR OR THE OTHER COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE VILLAGE, AND SEE HOW MUCH WE CAN ACCUMULATE AND SEND BACK TO TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK WITH OUR THANKS FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR US. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ERIC MILLER. I HEARD IT BACK THERE. HE'S ALWAYS GOT SOMETHING TO SAY. HEY. EVENING. YOU GOT MY BRITCHES THIS EVENING. I, I ACTUALLY DRESSED UP TO COME AND SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU. AND NOW I'M GOING TO TURN MYSELF BACK AROUND HERE AND SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM THAT VOTED FOR CHANGE.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE IF WE HAD HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE SUPPORT EARLY ON FROM OTHER PEOPLE, BUT YOU SHOWED THAT 68% OF THIS VILLAGE SHOWED UP AND SAID NO TO DATA CENTERS. 68% OF AMERICANS ARE POLLING RIGHT NOW. SAY NO TO DATA CENTERS. AND IT'S NICE TO SEE IT TOOK A
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POLITICAL ACTION TO GET A LOT MORE OF OUR POLITICAL CLASS OUT HERE. NOW, THE CHAOS IS ABOUT TO ENSUE BECAUSE YOU DON'T TRY TO TAKE AWAY CANDY FROM A BABY AND NOT HAVE THEM GIVE YOU SOME KIND OF A TANTRUM. YOU'RE 68% NEEDS TO STAND WITH EVERYBODY UP HERE. SHOULD THE CHAOS ENSUE AND SUPPORT THEM WHEN THEY TRY TO SUPPORT YOU. THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW. THE ELECTION'S OVER. THEY GOT A JOB TO DO. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WARFIELD FOR A SECOND. YOU WANT TO COMBINE THE SCHOOLS, YOU WANT TO COMBINE THE SCHOOLS. COMBINING THOSE SCHOOLS MOVES.WARFIELD. CLOSER TO THE TESORO GROVES CAMPUS. THERE ARE TWO PROPOSED DATA CENTERS THAT ARE GOING IN OVER THERE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THE NEW ASSISTANT TO DINA, WHO WAS HIRED IN YOUR DEVELOPMENT AREA, HAS BEEN EXPEDITING A LOT OF THE PERMITS TO GET THIS STUFF DONE FASTER.
OKAY. BUT WE HAVE PAYROLL ISSUES. BE NICE TO KNOW WHO APPROVED THAT ONE. YOU ARE GOING TO ENSUE CHAOS. YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AND YOU HAVE MADE THINGS HAPPEN. ERIC MILLER DIDN'T DO IT. YOU DID IT BECAUSE YOU WERE INFORMED. YOU STOOD ON COMMON GROUND. AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THAT COMMON GROUND LOCALLY AND LET THE REST OF MARTIN COUNTY KNOW THAT WE ARE A POLITICAL FORCE TO BE DEALT WITH AND NO LONGER IGNORED.
NUFF SAID. COMMISSIONER CAPPS. GOOD EVENING. I'M BLAKE CAPPS, I'M THE MARTIN COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT THREE, WHICH IS THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY. AND I REPRESENT HOBE SOUND AND INDIANTOWN AND TEQUESTA. IT'S GREAT TO BE WITH YOU THIS EVENING. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE EACH ONE OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND YOUR CONTINUING SERVICE. IT IS A GREAT HONOR TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE IN YOUR OWN COMMUNITY. I SENSE THAT EACH AND EVERY DAY IN MY OWN SERVICE FOR MARTIN COUNTY, AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SENSE THAT AS WELL. I COULDN'T HELP BUT NOTICE THIS EVENING THE REALLY NICE SPIRIT OF CIVILITY AND DECORUM AND MUTUAL RESPECT. AND I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND YOU FOR THAT THIS EVENING. AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I RESPECT YOUR INDEPENDENCE. I KNOW YOU'RE VERY CAPABLE LEADERS, AND I JUST WANT TO BE A HELP TO YOU IN ANY WAY THAT I CAN. I KNOW THAT YOU'RE A GREAT VOICE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF OF INDIANTOWN, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE VILLAGE AND THOSE WHO DO NOT. AND YOU CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW I CAN HELP PEOPLE IN THE VILLAGE AND ALSO THE PEOPLE IN THE OUTSKIRTS AROUND THE VILLAGE. SO IT'S I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AGAIN AND WISH YOU THE VERY BEST AND YOUR UPCOMING SERVICE.
AND MY EXECUTIVE AIDE, COLLEEN, WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT. COLLEEN PANKIEWICZ. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM COLLEEN PALKIEWICZ, AND I AM THE COMMISSION AIDE TO COMMISSIONER CAPPS. AND I, LIKE THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, WAS ESTABLISHED AS A COMMISSION AIDE IN 2017. SO I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE THE INCEPTION OF VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, AND I AM THRILLED TO SEE HOW YOU HAVE GROWN AND ALSO MYSELF AS I HAVE GROWN. AND NOW I'M WITH MY SECOND COMMISSIONER, AND I MYSELF WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE COUNCIL MEMBER DOWLING, COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ AND VICE MAYOR MILEY.
AND I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT IT'S BEEN GREAT BECAUSE IN THE INCEPTION I WAS HERE WITH COUNCILMAN DOWLING AND COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ, AND IT WAS REALLY WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU ALL GROW. I, AS THE COMMISSION AIDE, WE HAVE OTHER DUTIES AND I AM ACTUALLY THE BACKUP TO OUR CHAIRWOMAN. COMMISSIONER HEARD, AND SHE REALLY WANTED TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AS WELL. UNFORTUNATELY, SHE IS OUT OF TOWN AND WITH HER MOTHER. SO ON BEHALF OF COMMISSIONER HEARD, I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN TO COUNCIL MEMBER DOWLING, COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ AND VICE MAYOR MILEY. SO CONGRATULATIONS. AND IF YOU
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NEED ANYTHING AT ALL, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US. I THINK YOU ALL HAVE OUR NUMBERS. IF NOT, LET ME KNOW. I CAN, YOU KNOW, GET THAT TO YOU. BUT AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS AND WE'RE HERE FOR YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU MELISSA. HEY. GOOD EVENING AND CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME BACK. I'M HERE AGAIN TO ASK YOU FOR THE SAME THING I ASKED BEFORE THE ELECTION. I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR A TEMPORARY ADMINISTRATIVE PAUSE OR OTHER ACTION IN ORDER TO GO THROUGH THE COMBINED EFFECTS, THE CUMULATIVE EFFECTS, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR RESOURCES, THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING, OUR BUILDINGS, OUR ROADS, EVERYTHING. OUR CHILDREN AT SCHOOL THAT COULD BE AFFECTED BY LARGE LOAD INDUSTRY, INCLUDING HYPERSCALE DATA CENTERS. I WILL COME BACK TO YOU EVERY SINGLE MEETING UNTIL YOU DO WHAT YOU SAID ON THAT CAMPAIGN TRAIL. I WILL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE. YOU CAN PAINT TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR PEOPLE, TO LOOK AT THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WHO SWUNG THAT BOAT FOR YOU. NOW I'M HOLDING YOU ACCOUNTABLE.WE NEED TRANSPARENCY. THE SYSTEMS THAT ARE IN THE VILLAGE RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE TYLER SYSTEM, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S BEEN SOME DELAYS IN THAT. I PERSONALLY DON'T CARE.
YOUR PEOPLE ARE WAITING TO LOOK AT DOCUMENTS. YOUR SYSTEM HAS ERRORS IN IT. WE HAVE TO GO TO COUNTIES. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT PSC FILINGS. WE HAVE TO LOOK IN SO MANY DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS JUST TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE DEVELOPMENT PORTAL. ONE DAY ALONE LAST WEEK, AUGUST 24TH, TWO DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS TOOK PLACE ON DATA CENTERS HERE JUST AFTER THE ELECTION, BECAUSE THINGS ARE MOVING THROUGH YOUR PORTAL SO FAST AND YOUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM, WHY DON'T WE KNOW? DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. YOU'RE HERE NOW. MISS PALMER HAD BROUGHT THAT FORWARD BEFORE. I COMMEND HER FOR THAT. NOW I'M ASKING YOU TO HOLD YOURSELF ACCOUNTABLE. WE'RE GOING TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE. AND WE'RE ALSO ASKING YOU AGAIN, I MENTIONED A RESIDENTS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. IT SHOULD BE A NEIGHBORHOOD ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ALSO SIT JUST ON OUR OUTSKIRTS, WHO ARE IMPACTED BY THINGS THAT TAKE PLACE IN THIS VILLAGE. I WILL COME BACK EVERY MEETING WITH THE SAME REQUEST. GOOD LUCK. THAT IS IT, MAYOR.
AWESOME. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING UP TO SPEAK. THE NEXT ONE IS COMMITTEE REPORTS. I
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HAVE A FEW FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO ON APRIL 13TH THROUGH THE 15TH. WE TALKED ABOUT PROPERTY TAX AMENDMENTS, STANDING BEHIND YOUR BUDGET AND COMMUNICATING COMMUNITY PRIORITIES AND SMALL CITIES, BIG IDEAS AND LEADERSHIP LESSONS. ON AUGUST 21ST, I WENT TO THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.THE TRAINING COUNCIL HAS FOUR COUNTIES. IT REPRESENTS FOUR COUNTIES, 52 MUNICIPALITIES, 2.1 MILLION PEOPLE, 105 MILES OF ATLANTIC COASTLINE, 3500MI■S. AND IN BY 2024, THEY SAY THEY WILL REPRESENT 2.6 MILLION PEOPLE. RIGHT NOW IT'S 2.1. THEY REPRESENT 294 LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS, FIVE STATE SENATORS AND 13 STATE HOUSE MEMBERS. IT WAS REALLY NICE TO BE THERE THAT DAY. FOR THAT. I ALSO ATTENDED THE INDIANTOWN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. AT THAT MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT OUR BUDGET. WE TALKED ABOUT THE RODEO, WHICH WILL BE OCTOBER 16TH AND 17TH. WE TALKED ABOUT MERGING TWO EVENTS, THE DENIM AND DIAMOND GALA AND THE AWARDS EVENT, WHICH IS NOW GOING TO BE JANUARY 23RD. I ALSO HAVE A EMS ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS ON SEPTEMBER 3RD. AND THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR COMMITTEE MEETINGS FOR ME. ANY COMMENTS BY VILLAGE
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COUNCIL? GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT TO CONGRATULATE OUR NEWLY INSTALLED VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND I HOPE THAT WE CONTINUE TO SEE THIS VOLUME BECAUSE AS MELISSA AND. KELSEY KELSEY SAID. AND WE WE ARE GOING TO NEED YOUR HELP, YOUR PRAYERS, BECAUSE WE EVERYONE WANTS TRANSPARENCY. WE AS WELL WANT TRANSPARENCY. SO A LOT OF YOUR COMMENTS, CALLS, DMS HAVE BEEN VERY THOUGHTFUL AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY INSIGHTFUL. SO I WANT A PERSON TO SAY THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, PLEASE, THE NEW OUR NEWLY[02:25:06]
ELECTED COUNCIL, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED YOU TO THEY'RE GOING TO NEED YOU TO HELP THEM FUNNEL THROUGH. SO DON'T LET US DOWN. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT. PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE, FOR BEING HERE, BEING PRESENT TODAY AT THIS MEETING. THANK YOU TO THE RESIDENTS WHO GOT OUT TO VOTE TO AND MADE YOUR VOICES HEARD. THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR, YOU KNOW, PUTTING TOGETHER THIS EXTENSIVE PRESENTATION. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO ASK WAY. I DID REACH OUT TO YOU PRIOR TO THIS MEETING FOR AN TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT THE PROCESS OF ADDING ITEMS TO THE AGENDA. AND I HAD LET YOU KNOW WHAT IT WAS THAT I WANTED TO HAVE ADDED, WHICH I WANTED TO BRING TO OUR NEXT MEETING. STAFF TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS DATA CENTERS AND FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WE CAN DO TO PUT IN A TEMPORARY PAUSE SO THAT WE DO HAVE THE TIME TO REVIEW THE CUMULATIVE IMPACT STUDIES REVIEW, YOU KNOW, THE EFFECTS THAT SOMETHING OF THE EFFECTS THAT DATA CENTERS WILL HAVE ON OUR COMMUNITY PRIOR TO TAKING THE NEXT STEPS FORWARD. I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE EXPLICIT LANGUAGE THAT I WANT IN REGARDS TO PUSH THAT PUTTING THAT THAT INFORMATION ON THE AGENDA. BUT I CAN EMAIL THAT TO YOU IF THAT'S OKAY. OTHER THAN THAT, AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT. I HOPE TO, IN FUTURE MEETINGS THAT YOU KNOW, YOU'LL BE JUST AS INVOLVED. PAY PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON AND HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE. WE ALL PLEDGE THAT WE WERE GOING TO PUT OUR PEOPLE, PUT OUR, PUT OUR RESIDENTS FIRST. AND FOR ME, THAT'S WHAT I INTEND TO DO. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN GALLOWAY. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE. WE'LL HAVE MORE TO SAY IN SEPTEMBER. BUT FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I JUST WANTED TO JUST SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. I LOOK FORWARD TO A GOOD MEETING. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. YES, THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE THAT'S PRESENT THERE TODAY. I ALSO WANTED TO ASK THE VILLAGE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER MAKING A LETTER TO THE SCHOOL BOARD IN REGARDS OF WARFIELD ELEMENTARY AND NOT SUPPORTING THE COMBINATION OF. WARFIELD WITH INDIANTOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND ADDITIONALLY ALSO SUPPORTING THE CURRENT PRINCIPAL THAT'S AT INDIANTOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL TO STAY. SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A LETTER AND SEND IT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, JUST BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD THE RESIDENTS EXPRESS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S 100 YEAR OLD SCHOOL AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT ISSUES GOING AROUND THE COMMUNITY. ON TOP OF THAT, I ALSO WANTED TO. REQUEST THE MANAGER TO COORDINATE WITH DEENA FREEMAN, WHICH IS OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PERSON, TO, TO COORDINATE A COMMUNITY WORKSHOP IN REGARDS OF DEVELOPMENT. THIS WOULD BE BASICALLY A COMPREHENSIVE WORKSHOP REGARDING POTENTIAL LARGE LOAD DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. THE WORKSHOP SHOULD ADDRESS ANY PROPOSED OR POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT INVOLVING SIGNIFICANT DEMANDS ON THE VILLAGE'S INFRASTRUCTURE OR NATURAL RESOURCES, INCLUDING LARGE LOAD DATA CENTERS, BATTERY, BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE FACILITIES, LARGE ELECTRICAL LOAD USERS, LARGE WATER USERS, AND OTHER MAJOR INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMERS THAT FALL WITHIN THESE CATEGORIES. AND THIS WOULD BE OPEN FOR THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD SUGGEST FOR THIS TO BE DONE PRETTY SOON. THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE COUNCIL TO PUT A DATE ON. AND THEN ALSO, I WANTED TO REQUEST THAT THE VILLAGE[02:30:09]
PERSONNEL REGULATIONS BE BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL AT THE NEXT MEETING FOR US TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS IT. AS PART OF THIS DISCUSSION, I'M REQUESTING CURRENT ORGANIZATION ORGANIZATIONAL CHART SHOWING THE VILLAGE'S STAFF STRUCTURE, INCLUDING EACH DEPARTMENT POSITION. SUPER RELATIONSHIP, AND REPORTING STRUCTURES. I WOULD ALSO LIKE CLARIFICATION REGARDING THE PROCEDURES FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO REQUEST INFORMATION FROM VILLAGE STAFF, CONSULTANTS AND CONTRACTORS. RECENTLY, I WAS INFORMED THAT A VILLAGE CONTRACTOR COULD NOT PROVIDE INFORMATION TO ME UNLESS AUTHORIZED AUTHORIZATION WAS FIRST RECEIVED FROM THE VILLAGE MANAGER. I WOULD LIKE THE COUNCIL TO DISCUSS AND CLEARLY ESTABLISH THE APPROPRIATE COMMUNICATION AND PROCEDURES. THE VILLAGE MANAGER WORKS FOR AND REPORTS TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. AS A BODY, COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE A CLEAR AND REASONABLE PROCESS FOR OBTAINING INFORMATION NECESSARY TO CARRY OUT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES WITHOUT ROUTINE REQUESTS TAKING DAYS TO RESPOND. SO I WOULD I I'M ASKING FOR AN AGENDA ITEM ON THAT, AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE ABOUT. THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY, WADE, IN REGARDS OF DRAFTING A ZONING AND PROGRESS ORDINANCE. BUT BEFORE THAT, IT WOULD BE A RESOLUTION IN REGARDS TO HYPERSCALE DATA CENTERS, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL BE THAT WILL BE IMPACTED. AND SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S NOT INTENDED TO CREATE UNNECESSARY, BURDENSOME REGULATIONS, BUT IT'S INTENDED TO GIVE US TIME TO REVIEW OUR WATER UTILITY CAPACITIES. SO IS THAT SOMETHING, WADE, THAT YOU CAN SPEAK ON RIGHT NOW? COUNCIL MEMBER, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING. YES, COUNCIL MEMBER, I CAN ABSOLUTELY SPEAK ON THAT. IT WITH REGARD TO DRAFTING, WHETHER IT'S STYLED A ZONING AND PROGRESS ORDINANCE OR A MORATORIUM ORDINANCE OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THEY EFFECTIVELY AMOUNT TO THE SAME THING.WHATEVER LABEL YOU PUT ON IT. I'VE SHARED MY LEGAL OPINIONS CONCERNING THESE MATTERS IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS. I BELIEVE EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER, INCLUDING THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE NOW JOINED OR REJOINED THE COUNCIL, NOW HAVE HEARD THOSE LEGAL POSITIONS CONCERNING THAT IF THE COUNCIL DIRECTS ME TO PREPARE SUCH AN ORDINANCE, I WILL DO SO. AND SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND WITH REGARD TO THE AS AS PROPER AND AS EFFECTIVE A PROCEDURE AS YOU CAN EFFECTUATE TO HAVE A MORATORIUM ORDINANCE PROCEED FORWARD IN THE APPROPRIATE WAY. FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT, I WOULD RECOMMEND, IF THERE WERE DIRECTION TO ME TO PREPARE SUCH AN ORDINANCE THAT IT BE BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COUNCIL TO GIVE ME THAT DIRECTION SO THAT THAT CAN BE IN THE RECORD THAT THAT WAS THE DIRECTION TO PREPARE THAT ORDINANCE. SO, YEAH, COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ ABSOLUTELY. I, I CAN DO THAT. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF IT WAS THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL TO DO SO, THAT THERE BE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND A VOTE TO GIVE ME DIRECTION TO PREPARE THAT. SO WOULD I. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO FOR YOU TO START PREPARING THAT RESOLUTION. AND I SECOND. THANKS, MAYOR. WHAT DID YOU ASK THE ATTORNEY TO DO? MY ASS WAS JUST ABOUT THE SAME THING THAT SHE ASKED, WHICH WAS TO DRAFT THE. I DIDN'T USE THE TERM RESOLUTION, BUT YOU JUST SAID THAT RESOLUTION, MORATORIUM, PAUSE. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE SAME THING. AND AND I WOULD OFFER, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I THINK THE THE KIND OF LOOKING INTO AN ANALYSIS THAT YOU WERE REFERENCING IN, IN YOUR DISCUSSION, THERE IS, IS SUBSUMED IN OR PART OF WHAT'S BEING ASKED HERE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'D BE A DISCUSSION OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO? AND SO ON WHILE THAT'S BEING PUT TOGETHER. SO YES, I, I THINK WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR IS, WOULD KIND OF GO ALONG WITH, WITH WHAT SHE'S ASKING FOR. YEAH. ONE, ONE ADDITIONAL THING FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING ASIDE OTHER LEGAL ANALYSIS OR CONCERNS A RESOLUTION AS AN
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INITIAL MATTER MIGHT HAVE A BIT OF A DOCUMENTARY UTILITY, IT WOULD NOT HAVE ANY LEGAL FORCE AT THE TIME IT IS PUT INTO EFFECT. AND I JUST WANT TO PUT THIS OUT HERE IN CASE FOLKS HAVE HAVE GONE LOOKING AROUND AT OTHER LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS, AS TO HOW DIFFERENT PROCESSES WORK THERE ARE IN SOME CODES. SOME PLACES WE HAD IT IN OKEECHOBEE COUNTY, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE A ZONING AND PROGRESS PROCESS COULD BE INITIATED BY RESOLUTION BECAUSE THAT PROCESS WAS ALREADY IN PLACE IN THEIR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND ALL OF THIS. THAT'S NOT THE SITUATION WE HAVE HERE. AND SO I CAN PREPARE A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD GO ALONG WITH IT, THAT WOULD THAT WOULD HAVE A FINDING THAT THE COUNCIL DIRECTED, THAT IT BE PREPARED. AND WHEN IT WAS DIRECTED, THAT IT BE PREPARED, AND SO ON. BUT RESOLUTIONS DON'T HAVE OUTWARD REGULATORY LEGAL EFFECT. ORDINANCES ARE LOCAL LAWS THAT THAT REGULATE THINGS. SO I JUST WANTED TO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS ON THAT. WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST I'D BE BRINGING WOULD BE TO YOU ALL, A DRAFT OF AN ORDINANCE TO REVIEW. AND THEN ALONG WITH THAT, I CAN EVALUATE HOW THERE COULD BE A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD BE OF BENEFIT TO THE PROCESS OF THAT.CAN WE PUT THAT ON THE NEXT AGENDA? I WILL THE ANSWER'S YES. I'LL MAKE IT. I'LL FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. HISTORICALLY, WHAT WE HAVE DONE, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IS WE DON'T VOTE ON AN ITEM. IF IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, WE NEED TO HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR TRANSPARENCY. SO IF OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO COME IN HERE AND TALK, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN WHICH TO DO THAT. TODAY WE JUST BROUGHT IT UP. YEAH. AND SO WHAT WHAT I WOULD THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT, MAYOR, WITH REGARD TO WHAT YOU HAVE TONIGHT. TONIGHT IS NOT THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE. WHAT I WOULD OFFER TO YOU IS THIS ANY SORT OF MORATORIUM ORDINANCE? AGAIN, PUTTING ASIDE MY MY PREVIOUSLY STATED AND TIME, UNIQUE CONCERNS ABOUT THE APPLICATION OF SB 180, ANY MORATORIUM ORDINANCE IS A LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION PROCESS FOR ADOPTION, AND THAT INCLUDES CERTAIN ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS. IT INCLUDES GOING THROUGH THE PCAB AS WELL AS THE VILLAGE COUNCIL, SO WE CAN START WORKING THAT ALL OF THAT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT AT YOUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING SO IT CAN CONTINUE ON THROUGH THE PROCESS. MR. VILLAGE ATTORNEY, I WOULD SAY THAT HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING. WE HAVE A POLICY OF 72 HOURS SO THAT WE CAN WE CAN HAVE EVERYONE IN THE ROOM THAT WANTS TO BE IN THE ROOM. SO WE CAN PRESENT THIS RESOLUTION AND HAVE THE VOTE ON IT, IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL DESIRES. COUNCIL MEMBER WHAT WHAT PRECISELY WERE WERE YOU CONTEMPLATING VOTING ON AT A MEETING TO BE HELD IN 72 HOURS? THAT WOULD BE IF COUNCIL. IF MAYOR PHYLLIS BROWN STATES THAT SHE DOESN'T WANT A MOTION TO HAPPEN TODAY, WE ORDER TO HAVE FULL TRANSPARENCY. WE SHOULD HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, WHICH I WOULD SAY WE CAN CALL THE SPECIAL MEETING WITHIN 72 HOURS SO THAT WE CAN DO THE ON A RESOLUTION. SO, COUNCIL MEMBER, LET ME SUGGEST THE FOLLOWING. IF IF I BELIEVE WHAT I'M HEARING COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ TRYING TO DO IS ADDRESS THE CONCERNS YOU'VE RAISED, MAYOR, WITH REGARD TO TAKING AN ACTION TO, YOU KNOW, PROCEED IN THIS MANNER, HAVING IT BE SOMETHING ON AN AGENDA TO DO THAT AND HOLDING A SPECIAL MEETING SO IT CAN BE AGENDA SO THAT THAT DIRECTION CAN BE FORMALLY GIVEN WITH AN AGENDA. AGENDA ITEM. CERTAINLY WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL, WE CAN SET A SPECIAL MEETING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. I AND BY THE WAY, I, I WILL POINT OUT, I RECOGNIZE THAT THE THAT THE VILLAGE CHARTER INDICATES YOU CAN CALL SPECIAL MEETINGS ON 72
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HOURS NOTICE UNLESS THERE'S AN EMERGENCY. WE'VE, OF COURSE, CALLED THEM ON FOUR HOUR NOTICE FOR A HURRICANE AND SO ON. BUT 72 HOURS GENERALLY WOULD NOT SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUNSHINE LAW FOR A MATTER THAT WE HAVE COMING ON, 72 HOURS WOULD PUT US INTO SUNDAY. I. I THINK IN ANY EVENT, I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST SOMETHING LIKE NEXT TUESDAY, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT, BUT AGAIN, I. IF THERE IS A WILL OF THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL, WE CAN MAKE ANY OF THAT HAPPEN. AND BY THE WAY, I. I CAN'T GUARANTEE YOU THAT I COULD HAVE A FULLY FORMED MORATORIUM ORDINANCE ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER FOR THAT TUESDAY TO GO ALONG WITH IT. BUT CERTAINLY THERE COULD BE A SPECIAL MEETING TO HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM WHERE IT'S FULLY ON THEIR NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC. SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT THE COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING TO GIVE FORMAL DIRECTION TO HAVE THAT DEVELOPED, SO THAT THAT CERTAINLY CAN BE PUT TOGETHER IN THAT WINDOW OF TIME. MR. VILLAGE ATTORNEY, IT WOULD BE A ZONING AND PROGRESS MORE THAN A MORATORIUM. I KNOW YOU YOU WANT TO SAY MORATORIUM, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT ZONING AND PROGRESS. OKAY. AND COUNCIL MEMBER, I, I APOLOGIZE FOR FOR DIGGING INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT AS WE'RE TALKING HERE IN THE MEETING, BUT JUST SO I HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION AND THE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS, WHAT WHAT IS THE DISTINCTION THAT THAT YOU SEE WITH REGARD TO A ZONING AND PROGRESS VERSUS A MORATORIUM? AND I WOULD OFFER TO YOU THAT GENERALLY, TO THE EXTENT THERE IS ANY DISTINCTION IN THOSE TERMS, ZONING AND PROGRESS DOES NOT, IN FACT, STOP THE PROCESSING OF APPLICATIONS DURING THE OR THE GRANTING OF, OF ANY SORT OF FINAL PERMITS DURING ANY SORT OF CONSIDERATION PERIOD. IT IS JUST ADVISING PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THEY DO NOT NECESSARILY HAVE THE ENTITLEMENT TO CONTINUE TO RELY ON THE STABILITY OF THEIR LAND USE ENTITLEMENTS IS EFFECTIVELY WHAT IT IS. SO IT'S GIVING NOTICE THAT YOU THERE MIGHT BE A CHANGE IN THE FUTURE AND YOU MIGHT BE SUBJECT TO IT. IT DOES NOT, AS THAT TERM IS GENERALLY USED IN DISTINCTION TO A MORATORIUM. IT DOES NOT STOP THE PROCESSING OR THE APPROVAL OF APPLICATIONS. SO I DID SPEAK TO AN ATTORNEY. AND SO THE PROCESS THAT I SAW IT HAPPEN AT ANOTHER CITY WAS A RESOLUTION WAS PROPOSED, AND THEN THE ZONING AND PROGRESS CAME IN BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO ORDINANCES. AND SO THAT GIVES TIME FOR THE FOR THE STAFF TO WORK ON THE ZONING AND PROGRESS ON THE ORDINANCE. AND. COUNCIL MEMBER AND I, I APOLOGIZE JUST BECAUSE WE WE WE DON'T HAVE SUCH AN APPARATUS IN OUR, YOU KNOW, IN OUR INDIANTOWN LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS SET OUT.BUT IT WAS THAT ONE PARTICULAR TO THAT PARTICULAR CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. AND I APOLOGIZE, I JUST I DIDN'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION CONCERNING THIS, YOU KNOW, PARTICULAR BIT AND THE APPLICATION OF IT PRIOR TO THE MEETING. SO I HAVING TO ASK ABOUT IT AS WE TALK HERE. SO I THINK WE HAVE A CONSENSUS IN REGARDS OF TALKING ABOUT THIS. SO IF WE CAN ACTUALLY BUTCHER IT IN ANOTHER MEETING, IN A SPECIAL MEETING SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. COUNSEL. WE ARE AT YOUR DISPOSAL. WE HAVE A MOTION. I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE OKAY. SHE'S TALKING ABOUT ZONING AND PROCESS THE ORDINANCE. RIGHT.
WE NEED TO BE CLEAR WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE I'M I'M I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. I UNDERSTAND
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THAT I'M SORRY. Y'ALL, PLEASE FORGIVE ME. I JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE TEACHER I NEED TO KNOW. CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE DOING? COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ, SHE WAS VERY CLEAR, BUT THEN YOU SAID SOMETHING, AND I JUST NEED TO BE CLEAR. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER. I, I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I, I APOLOGIZE GREATLY THAT I'VE HAD TO ASK SO MANY QUESTIONS TO TRY TO DISCERN OUT PRECISELY WHAT IS BEING ASKED TO, TO BE PREPARED FOR POTENTIALLY A SPECIAL MEETING TO BE HELD NEXT WEEK AND SO ON, BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT TO INADVERTENTLY HAVE US COME BACK WITH SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT IS CONTEMPLATED IN THE MIND. AND OFTENTIMES WE, YOU KNOW, USE DIFFERENT TERMS FOR THINGS THAT HAVE FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT ELEMENTS AND SO ON. SO. THAT THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR IS, IS WHAT LEGAL EFFECT THERE WAS A HOPE FOR WITH REGARD TO THE ACTION ON, ON TUESDAY, WHAT I CAN OFFER YOU IS, IS WE COULD HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING NEXT WEEK IN WHICH YOU CAN CONSIDER A FORMAL AGENDA ITEM TO DIRECT THE PREPARATION OF AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO DATA CENTERS OF SOME DESCRIPTION. HYPERSCALE DATA CENTERS OR DATA CENTERS GENERALLY ARE LARGE LOAD CUSTOMERS OR WHATEVER DEFINITION IT MIGHT END UP BEING. AND WITH REGARD TO THAT, I CAN DO MY BEST IN THE INTERIM TO TRY TO DISCERN PRECISELY WHAT ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS.COUNCILMEMBER HERNANDEZ, I'M GLAD TO SPEAK WITH HER, TO TRY TO DISCERN PRECISELY WHAT ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS SHE'D LIKE TO HAVE ON THERE, AS WELL AS A DISTINGUISHING FACTOR WITH REGARD TO ZONING AND PROGRESS RESOLUTION AND THE EFFECT THAT THAT MIGHT BE HOPED TO ACCOMPLISH. I'D HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE EXAMPLE SHE'S LOOKING AT FROM ANOTHER CITY AND SEE HOW THAT CAN BE EFFECTUATED TO THE EXTENT IT CAN. SO IS A MORATORIUM. AND WHATEVER THE OTHER TERM WAS, IS THAT THE SAME THING? SO THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH USING LABELS, AS OPPOSED TO DISCUSSING PRECISELY WHAT EFFECT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH. OKAY. AND, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. IT'S JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT WORDS, YOU KNOW, GET, GET THROWN ABOUT AND SO ON. AND I, I FIND IT A LOT MORE USEFUL TO SPEAK TO PRECISELY WHAT EFFECTS DO YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH? DO YOU WANT THE END GOAL? YEAH. WHAT? YEAH.
WHAT IS WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE IMMEDIATE, WHAT'S THE END GOAL? BUT ALSO WHAT IS THE IMMEDIATE, THE IMMEDIATE INTENDED LEGAL EFFECT? SO IS THE END GOAL FOR US TO LEARN WHAT WE DON'T KNOW. AND SLOW DOWN WHAT'S COMING. THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO HELP DISCERN WHERE WHAT WHAT YOU ALL WE'RE LOOKING TO DO SO I WOULD SUGGEST SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION DISCUSSION AMONG THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO FLESH OUT PRECISELY WHAT THAT IS. YES.
SO I THINK THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ HAS AN IDEA OF THE INFORMATION THAT SHE WANTS TO PUT. AND SO INSTEAD OF US TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT TONIGHT, IF IF THE ATTORNEY COULD GET WITH HER. AND ONCE THAT IS HASHED OUT, SEND THAT INFORMATION TO ALL OF US SO THAT BY, BY THE TIME WE HAVE THIS SPECIAL MEETING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT ON TUESDAY, THAT WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN NOW ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT IT. AND I, I AGREE, IF WE WOULD WANT OR WE'LL CALL ME, I WILL LET HIM KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT. I WOULD BE GLAD TO DO SO. AND MAYOR, I JUST JUST ONE THING TO THROW OUT AND I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT TAKE ANY SLIGHT BIT LONGER OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS. I JUST WANTED TO THROW OUT THE THOUGHT. WE'VE TENDED THE LAST MANY YEARS TO HAVE MEETINGS, GRAVITATE TO THURSDAYS BECAUSE OF GENERAL AVAILABILITY IN THE COMMUNITY, AMONG OTHER THINGS, AND SO ON.
SO I SAID TUESDAY, JUST BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THE EARLIEST, WHEN THERE WAS A DESIRE FOR 72 HOURS FROM A SUNSHINE PERSPECTIVE, GIVING FULL SEVEN DAYS ACTUALLY IS A LOT BETTER THAN THAN THAT IN ANY EVENT. SO I WOULD THROW IT TO THE COUNCIL, I CAN I CAN
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MAKE IT HAPPEN FOR TUESDAY AS WELL. BUT IN PAST PRACTICE WITH THE VILLAGE, WE DO HAVE AN OPEN THURSDAY THERE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION LATER ABOUT A B MEETINGS AND SO ON.BUT THAT WAS A PAB SLOT THAT CURRENTLY IS NOT HAVING A PAB MEETING. SO THAT IS A GOOD TIME THERE AS WELL. IS THURSDAY GOOD FOR US? I'M DOWN FOR TUESDAY. OKAY. I'M DOWN FOR TUESDAY. I CAN DO TUESDAY BUT THURSDAY IS BETTER. I CAN DO TUESDAY. I HAVE ANOTHER MEETING ON THURSDAY. I'M GOOD EITHER DAY. ALL RIGHT THEN COUNCIL AM I HEARING THEN DIRECTION TO GO AHEAD AND SET A SPECIAL MEETING FOR TUESDAY AT 6 P.M. SHOULD WE MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE IT FORMAL, PLEASE? YES, MADAM MAYOR, IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING THIS TUESDAY, 6 P.M. HERE AT THE VILLAGE HALL. SO MOVED. NOW SECOND. WHAT'S YOUR SECOND? WE'VE HAD A MOTION. WE HAD. WE HAD A NUMBER OF SECONDS. AND AND AS AS THE. AS THE MOAT. LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION BEFORE YOU DO THAT. SO THE MEETING ON TUESDAY, WHICH IS CONVENIENT FOR EVERYBODY. IS TO VOTE ON A MORATORIUM. IS IT TO LEARN OR WHAT. WHAT IS IT FOR? IS IT TO GIVE YOU DIRECTIONS? IN THE ABSENCE OF COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDING THE.
THE DISTINCTION OF THE IMMEDIATE EFFECT. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ WANTS TO HAPPEN ON TUESDAY, THEN I THINK WHAT I WAS HEARING IN THAT WAS TO HAVE A MEETING TO DISCUSS AND GIVE FORMAL DIRECTION WITH REGARD TO PREPARING A AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD PUT WHATEVER TERM YOU WANT TO PUT ON IT ADMINISTRATIVE PAUSE, MORATORIUM,U WITH REGARD TO DATA CENTERS. AND I WILL SPEAK WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ TO TO GET INTO THE DETAILS AS TO WHAT FURTHER EFFECT THERE MAY BE. AND AND TO THE EXTENT WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN, WE'LL HAVE THAT IN THERE AS WELL. AND JUST TO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS FOR THE COUNCIL AND FOR THE PUBLIC, WE'LL BE GETTING. ACTUAL AGENDA ITEM FOR THAT TOGETHER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. HOWEVER THAT MIGHT WORK OUT. OKAY. AND SO THERE'S THE MAYOR I OFFER. THERE'S BEEN A MOTION AND A SECOND TO THAT END, BECAUSE. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I'M AWARE OF THE TIME, BUT IN LIGHT OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUNSHINE LAW, I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS BOB RAINS. I'M A LAND USE ATTORNEY WITH THE GUNSTER LAW FIRM, AND I'M HERE THIS EVENING ON BEHALF OF SILVER FOX 606, LLC. I WOULD REALLY QUICKLY THOUGH, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE YOU ALL ON YOUR ELECTIONS. YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF WHAT SIDE OF THE ISSUES YOU FALL ON. IT'S A THANKLESS JOB. SO AND THIS MAY BE ONE OF THEM FOR YOU, BUT I'M HERE AGAIN ON BEHALF OF SILVER FOX 606 LLC, AND WE'RE A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED AND DISMAYED TO HEAR ABOUT, BUT NOT SURPRISED ABOUT A POSSIBLE MORATORIUM OR XEPIN PROGRESS, WHATEVER ZONING AND PROGRESS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
BUT WE DO BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD BE WRONG. THERE ARE PROPERTY RIGHTS THAT OUR CLIENT HAS AND EXPECTATIONS THAT HE HAD WHEN THE PROPERTY CAME ABOUT. WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT SENATE BILL 180 WOULD PROHIBIT SUCH A MORATORIUM OR ZONING IN PROGRESS. THAT'S OUR LEGAL OPINION, AND WE'LL CERTAINLY BRING THAT FORWARD. AND YOU HAVE YOUR VILLAGE ATTORNEY WHO WILL OPINE TO THAT. THAT'S I'LL LEAVE IT TO HIM WITH RESPECT TO HOW HE ADVISES YOU ALL ON THAT.
BUT WE WILL, YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN ADVISED THAT WE WILL BE FOLLOWING THIS AND WE WILL DO
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EVERYTHING THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN TO PROTECT OUR CLIENT'S RIGHTS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GET ATTORNEYS, THEY'RE ALREADY INVOLVED BEFORE WE GET ATTORNEYS INVOLVED, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN DO TO SLOW IT DOWN, TO DO WHATEVER, RATHER THAN HAVE A POSSIBLE LAWSUIT? THAT'S A VERY BROAD QUESTION. AND THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE ANSWERS. WE WANT, THE QUESTIONS WE WANT ANSWERED. BUT I KNOW WHEN YOU GET ATTORNEYS INVOLVED, THAT IS A LAST ALTERNATIVE FOR THE POTS AND PANS START FLYING. AND I ■KNOW WE AS A VILLAGE ARE NOT SITTING ON A PACK OF MONEY. AND I KNOW THE MAJORITY THAT'S HERE TODAY WANT TO DO THAT. THE MORATORIUM OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, A STOP PAUSE, WHATEVER. HAVE WE EVER THOUGHT ABOUT GOING TO THE LANDOWNERS AND ASKING A QUESTION? WHATEVER QUESTION WE WANT TO ASK? CAN WE LISTEN TO YOU ALL? PLEASE LISTEN TO ME. I LISTEN WHEN YOU SPOKE. PLEASE DO THE SAME FOR ME. YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT, BUT IT'S OKAY. I'M JUST SAYING, WHEN ATTORNEYS GET INVOLVED, THEN EVERYTHING GOES CRAZY. AND THEN WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER ANYTHING. I, LIKE SOME PEOPLE, FEEL RIGHT NOW LIKE THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER ANYTHING, BUT IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN TALK TO OR HAVE A CONVERSATION, OR HAVE A TOWN HALL WITH THE PEOPLE? ERIC, YOU CAN'T FLY, SO STOP FLAPPING. I'M TRYING, I'M TRYING. MAYOR.THERE ARE ALL MANNER OF OF DIFFERENT. IT'S JUST A QUESTION I'M ASKING. ABSOLUTELY. PART OF THE TESORO GROVES PUD DID HAVE A REQUIREMENT IN THERE TO HAVE A TOWN HALL OPEN MEETING, WHATEVER IT IS YOU WANT TO CALL IT, SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GARNER THAT KIND OF INFORMATION. BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE FOUND IN MY RESEARCH, UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT SYSTEM AN END USER PLANS ON UTILIZING, WHETHER IT'S COOLING, NOISE, WHATEVER, THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT.
SO WE, YOU CAN EDUCATE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BRING UP ALL THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT AND IT WOULD JUST GIVE YOU ALL THE VARIOUS INFORMATION AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. AND THEN WHO THAT PERSON IS THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE THAT WOULD BE DEEMED THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT WOULD GIVE YOU BOTH SIDES, IF YOU WILL, AND NOT JUST COME AT THIS FROM ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER, LIKE YOU HAD. AT WERE YOU MAYBE YOU WEREN'T THERE IN OKEECHOBEE AT THEIR JOINT MEETING. THEY HAD AN INDIVIDUAL COME AND SPEAK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AND AND HE WAS A COMPLETELY NO, NO SKIN IN THE GAME. NO, NO REASON TO TAKE. I JUST DON'T WANT TO THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER. THE BATHWATER IS DIRTY AND MUCKY, BUT THE BABY'S STILL THERE, I UNDERSTAND. SO I, I DON'T WISH TO DO THAT. AND I DON'T WISH WISH TO PUT THE VILLAGE IN JEOPARDY BECAUSE AS SOON AS WE SAY ATTORNEY IS GOING TO DO THIS, ATTORNEY IS GOING TO DO THAT. WE HAVE TWO SETS OF ATTORNEYS. THEY'RE GOING TO GET PAID NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS. WHO'S GOING TO. I MEAN, YEAH, I, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A TOWN HALL OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. COUNCILMAN DYER YES. YOU KNOW, THE THE MAJORITY OF THIS COUNCIL WAS ELECTED FOR THIS PURPOSE. AND I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE FITTING IF WE JUST MOVE FORWARD AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ON TUESDAY. AND THE CONVERSATION WOULD BE ABOUT THE SAME THING.
I'M JUST ASKING. YES, MA'AM. MAYOR, MAYOR, I DO HAVE MORE PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE. MELISSA HAGUE. NO ONE. I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU JUST YOU WERE
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CONCERNED WITH. AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN BECAUSE IT WILL INVOLVE ATTORNEYS, THERE'S NO DOUBT, BECAUSE THERE'S PRESSURE WILL BE PUT ON ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. BUT I HAVE AN ATTORNEY. THESE PEOPLE HAVE ATTORNEYS TOO, AND THEIR PROPERTY RIGHTS DON'T TRUMP OURS. WE HAVE TO LEARN TO COEXIST TOGETHER. IF THEY'RE GOING TO COME, LET THEM COME AND BE THOSE GOOD NEIGHBORS. IF THEY'RE THREATENING TO SUE YOU, IF THEY'RE THREATENING TO TAKE YOUR RESOURCES, IF THEY'RE GOING TO, QUOTE, MEET WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE VILLAGE. BUT IT'S A CURSORY MEETING WHERE THE PEOPLE AND THE RESIDENTS HAVE NO TRUE INPUT. NOTHING WE SAY IN THAT FPL MEETING GIVES US PERMISSION TO QUESTION THEM OR CHANGE A DARN THING. IT'S A CURSORY EXPERIENCE. IT'S A NICE TO DO, BUT THERE'S NO LEGAL MANDATE IN THAT MEETING THAT LETS US HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INPUT. YOU LOST THAT WHEN YOU GAVE THEM THE PERMISSION. Y'ALL SIGNED THAT, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THESE RISKS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.NOW YOU WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE MEET AGAIN ABOUT A DAY. I GET THE CONCERNS, BUT WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. WE BROUGHT THESE CONCERNS TO YOU. WE BROUGHT YOU STUDIES. THEY BROUGHT THEIR ATTORNEYS IN WHO SPOKE TO THEY SEND REALLY GOOD TIME TO EMAILS OUTLINING STATUTES, BUT NOT ACTUALLY THREATENING TO SUE. AND IF THEY'RE GOING TO SUE, THEY'RE GOING TO SUE. I AM AWARE OF WHO THE ATTORNEYS ARE, BUT AGAIN, DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THAT YOUR PEOPLE WILL PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY VALUES, THEIR HEALTH, THEIR CHILDREN, THEIR WELL-BEING, TOO. AND THOSE LAWSUITS WILL COME. NOW, THAT'S FINE. WHEN YOU'RE SITTING ON $5 MILLION WORTH OF JOINT LAWSUIT PROTECTION WITH FPL, BUT THAT DOESN'T COVER YOU FOR THE REST OF THEM. AND THEY'RE COMING.
NOTICE SILVER FOX IS REPRESENTATIVE SHOWS UP RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. NOTICE THE EMAILS WADE GOT. YOU THINK THEY DON'T KNOW THIS IS BEING TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S WHAT THEY GOT ELECTED ON. WE'VE GIVEN YOU A REMIT TO DO THAT. DON'T THINK WE WON'T RECALL BECAUSE WE WILL RECALL. WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW OUR RIGHTS TO BE STEPPED ON BECAUSE SOMEBODY CAME WITH BIG MONEY. THESE ARE MULTI-MILLION MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS. LET THEM PAY TO PLAY. LET THEM MAKE SURE OUR WATER IS RIGHT. LET'S MAKE SURE OUR STREETS ARE RIGHT. OUR CHILDREN ARE TAKEN CARE OF. I'M TIRED OF SAYING, LET'S WAIT ANOTHER MEETING, ANOTHER MEETING WHILE THEIR APPLICATIONS ARE ROLLING IN YOUR DOOR. NOW ASK DINA WHAT'S ON THAT FOLDER. DO ANY OF YOU KNOW? CAN YOU LOOK AT IT AND TELL ME WHAT'S A DATA CENTER AND WHAT'S NOT? BECAUSE YOU CAN'T. BUT I CAN TELL YOU BECAUSE I SPENT THE LAST FIVE MONTHS DIGGING THROUGH EVERY SINGLE RECORD I COULD GET IN THE STATE TO FIND OUT EVEN PSC FILINGS THAT THEY THOUGHT WERE CONFIDENTIAL. YOU'RE IN TROUBLE. THEY'RE SURROUNDING YOU.
THEY'RE SPLITTING PLATS. THEY'RE ALREADY BREAKING GROUND TO MAKE ROOM FOR THEIR GUARD STATIONS. AND TO PUT A TRAFFIC STUDY DOWN FOR TWO EMPLOYEES. YOU NEED TO DO WHAT THE PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN YOU REMIT TO DO. WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS ENOUGH. THE DELAY IS RIDICULOUS.
THEY'RE GOING TO SUE. PROBABLY. GREAT. WE'RE GOING TO SUE IF YOU DON'T HELP US TO. WORKS BOTH WAYS. ERIC MILLER I'M JUST GOING TO CONTINUE ALONG WITH THAT. THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS. WHEN WE SPEAK ABOUT MISS FRIEDMAN IN HER POSITION, WE HAVE FOUND AN NDA.
NO WONDER SHE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO TELL THE TWO OF YOU ANYTHING ALONG THE WAY, OR THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE INFORMATION YOU'VE BEEN GETTING IS ERRONEOUS. YOUR TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE ON MOST OF THESE PUDS USING. AFTER IT'S BUILT AND EMPLOYED. WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE 5200 EMPLOYEES. THAT TRAFFIC STUDY IS SUSAN O'ROURKE STUDY. IT SAYS THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANY CARS. THERE'S ONLY 50 TO 100 PEOPLE. WHILE THE ECONOMISTS SAY THAT THERE'S OVER 6800 VEHICLES AND PEOPLE THAT WILL HAVE TO BUILD A SINGLE DATA CENTER, YOU CURRENTLY HAVE SIX THAT ARE IN PROGRESS. OKAY. WE HAVE FOUND THE INFORMATION ON YOUR WEBSITE.
IT IS PUBLIC RECORD. WE HAVE I CAN GET MORE PUBLICLY THAN YOU CAN PRODUCE FROM YOUR OWN SOFTWARE. BY THE WAY, I'VE STOPPED PUTTING IN RECORDS REQUESTS. WE'VE ASKED FOR TOWN HALLS. WE'VE BEEN WE'VE TRIED TO BE NICE. I CAME HERE WITH THE REPORT FOR BOTH OF YOU AND THE OTHER THREE PEOPLE THAT WERE SITTING UP THERE IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS. THAT WAS 20 PAGES THAT SAID, HERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AND ADDRESSED. AND THE WHOLE WAY I WAS CALLED A LIAR, AND SO WERE THE REST OF THE PEOPLE AROUND HERE. AND A LOT OF THIS HAS BEEN STAFF DRIVEN, BECAUSE THERE ARE INTERESTS IN HERE THAT HAVE NDAS AND OUTSIDE INTERESTS TO BUILD THIS GOVERNMENT FOR THE SAKE OF THE GOVERNMENT, AND NOT FOR THE SAKE OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE. THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. THE THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THAT YOU GUYS DID AND APPROVED OUT THERE. BUENO. I CAN'T SEE THE LIGHT AT NIGHT. I DON'T HEAR HIM DURING THE DAY. OKAY, BUT A 3,000,000 SQUARE FOOT CAMPUS TIMES SIX. AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HEALTH CONSEQUENCES ARE. BUT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT ERIC DERANGEMENT SYNDROME, YOU WON'T LISTEN TO ME WHEN I SAY THERE'S SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE FROM THE PEDIATRIC ACADEMY THAT SAYS ULTRASOUND IS HARMFUL TO KIDS, THE AUTISTIC CHILDREN AND ADULTS ARE MORE AT RISK. FARM ANIMALS BEGIN TO STERILIZE BECAUSE OF THE INFRASOUND.
THERE IS A HEAT ISSUE THAT IS CAUSED FROM THIS. THERE IS SCIENCE BEHIND THIS, GUYS. SO HERE'S THE IDEA. I LIKE MR. HERNANDEZ IDEA. LET'S HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING. LET'S CALL
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FIRST FOR A PAUSE AND EXPLAIN TO ME WHY A HOMEBUILDER THAT HAS HIS HOMES APPROVED RIGHT NOW CAN'T BUILD THEM OR BREAK GROUND OR KNOCK A TREE DOWN. BUT YESTERDAY THERE WAS A PERMIT APPROVED ON SILVER FOX TO START TEARING THE TREES DOWN. THEY'RE MOVING AND THEY'RE MOVING WITHOUT YOUR AUTHORIZATION OR YOUR KNOWLEDGE, BECAUSE AN NDA IS KEEPING IT FROM YOU AND LARGER FINANCIAL INTERESTS THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM WANT YOU. DON'T LET THEM IN YOUR HEAD. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT YOU REPRESENT NOW. TAKE YOUR MEETING. IF WE CAN'T ANALYZE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO KNOW IF SIX PROJECTS ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE OF AN IMPACT WITH 4500 HOMES, I GIVE UP. KELSEY LEE. HI AGAIN, KELSEY. FOR THE RECORD, MADAM MAYOR, YOU WERE THE VERY ONE WITH THIS PAST COUNCIL THAT DENIED US A TOWN HALL. WHEN WE ASKED, WE ASKED TO BE HEARD. YOU IN THE PAST, COUNCIL IGNORED US. THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE. THAT'S WHY THERE ARE THREE NEW MEMBERS. THAT'S WHY OUR VILLAGE. WHY DID OUR VILLAGE ATTORNEY TELL US? MANY TIMES WE CAN'T HAVE A MORATORIUM NOW. IT'S POSSIBLE. NOW WE CAN BE HEARD. WE WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT REGARDLESS OF THEM THREATENING LAWSUITS. WE WILL FIGHT. WE WILL FIGHT FOR OUR CHILDREN. WE WILL FIGHT FOR OUR TOWN. AND WE WON'T GIVE UP. AND I THANK YOU TO THIS COUNCIL FOR DOING SOMETHING BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN IGNORED FOR A LONG TIME NOW. BRANDON CECIL. HELLO, EVERYBODY. I DIDN'T GET TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS.CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS MISS JANET HERNANDEZ. HELLO, HELLO HELLO.
PUT YOU HERE FOR A REASON. WE ALL PUT YOU HERE FOR A REASON. IT'S BEFORE YOU. RIGHT NOW.
IT'S IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW. IT'S THE PEOPLE. THE PEOPLE OF INDIANTOWN. AND IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PROTECT IT, YOU'RE GOING TO HIDE BEHIND NDAS. IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THE PEOPLE ARE NOT WHAT YOU CARE ABOUT, AND THE PEOPLE ARE NOT WHAT YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB FOR. THAT'S WHAT THE JOB IS FOR. AN NDA IS A MISPLACED TRUST BECAUSE INSTEAD OF TAKING CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO, THE NDA SERVES THE DEVELOPERS. YOU'RE HERE FOR A REASON. DO IT PLEASE. THAT'S IT. MAYOR, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? LET'S TAKE A VOTE FOR THE MEETING ON TUESDAY.
ROLL CALL FOR THE MEETING ON TUESDAY. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS PALMER. YES, COUNCILMEMBER. DARLING. YES. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. HERNANDEZ. YES. VICE MAYOR. MILEY. YES.
MAYOR. WATERS BROWN. YES. FOR THE MEETING. MAKE A COMMENT DURING THE MEETING ON THE RECORD. MY NAME IS MYRTLE GREEN. I'VE BEEN HERE ALL MY LIFE AND DOING A MEETING ON TUESDAY WHEN THERE'S VERY FEW PEOPLE IS DOING IT IN THE SHADOWS AND YOU'RE TRYING TO MISS ALL OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE AROUND HERE. I HAVE PROPERTY THAT IS NOT IN THE VILLAGE TOWN, BUT IT AFFECTS MY ANIMALS THAT ARE THERE AND NO ONE IS TRYING TO HELP US AT ALL. SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO DO ANYTHING. YES, MA'AM. MISS MYRTLE, MISS MYRTLE, MISS MYRTLE? YES. WAS IT BECAUSE THE MEETING IS ON TUESDAY? A BALLOT? YES, ANY DAY. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE TO DO IT ON A SPECIAL TIME, WHENEVER IT'S USUALLY THE TWO THURSDAY NIGHT, YOU KNOW IT'S NORMAL. WHY HAS TO DO IT FOR JUST FOR SMALL PEOPLE TO BE HERE? OR DO YOU DO IT OVER THE TELEPHONE? IT'S NOT ETHICAL TO REALLY DO IT. COUNCIL. IS THERE ANY OTHER DAYS THAT YOU CAN MEET? I DON'T KNOW. WE CAN GET SOMETHING DONE. WE CAN NOTICE THE MEETING. SO WE'RE NOT HIDING. IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM. SO WE'RE NOT HIDING. AND I'M SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY, BUT THE PEOPLE ARE NOT AROUND TO SORT
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OF SEE IF THEY WISH TO COME. THEY'RE WELCOME TO COME. IT WILL BE POSTED FOR THEM TO COME OVER AT WORK. WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIX IT FOR EVERYBODY. IT'S IN THE AFTERNOON. WELL, THEY STILL GOT TO GET HOME AND GET DINNER. OKAY. I GOT THE ANSWER. YOU'RE SLIDING AROUND THE PEOPLE. IF IF I COULD, I WILL SHARE AFTER THE MEETING AND MAYBE SHARE SOME INSIGHT BECAUSE I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME CONFUSION, BUT WE DO HAVE A WE DO. WE ARE WAITING FOR ROLL CALL. SO, MADAM MAYOR, WE ALREADY HAVE ROLL CALL. OH, WE ALREADY DID IT. I'M SORRY. CAN WE AT THE MEETING, CAN WE SEND IT THE SAME WAY WE SENT OUR MEETINGS ONLINE? SAY THAT AGAIN.I'M SORRY. MAKE IT AVAILABLE ONLINE. YES, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY, I EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME. MA'AM, PLEASE. LARONDA. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE EQUIPMENT SET UP HERE OR WHAT'S OUR STATUS? BECAUSE WE WERE MOVING TOMORROW INTO THE NEW BUILDING. WE WILL, WE WILL. I JUST HAVE TO DO SOME SCHEDULING WITH LIVE STREAM. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BEFORE I ANSWER THAT. YES.
THANK YOU. COMMENTS FROM VILLAGE MANAGER. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. THE CAN I GET A. I
[1) APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE AGENDA. CAN I GET A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I, I AYE. ALL[2) APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]
OPPOSED? LET'S GET APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.CAN I GET A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY I QUESTION. OKAY. THERE ARE SOME THINGS I WANTED TO TABLE ON HERE. I KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ MENTIONED ABOUT TABLING TO A. I ACTUALLY WANTED TO TABLE THE ENTIRE CONSENT AGENDA TO HAVE TIME TO REVIEW ALL OF THIS INFORMATION. WE WERE NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS WHEN THIS LAST COUNCIL. THE COUNCIL MINUTES. SO I JUST NEED TIME, SO I. I'M GOING TO VOTE NO, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO MOVE TO TABLE THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO THAT IS MY MY MY THOUGHTS. YOU KNOW WHAT? I AGREE WITH YOU.
WHEN COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ WANTED TO TABLE IT, WE TOOK A VOTE. YEAH. AND SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO IT. YES. BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT TABLING THE ENTIRE CONSENT AGENDA. AND AT THE TIME IT THAT. THERE WAS MORE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO I DIDN'T WANT TO TACKLE THAT ONE WITHOUT TACKLING THE REST OF THEM. SO THAT'S WHY I WAITED. SO MAYOR, SHE, SHE WANTED TO TABLE IT. SO SHE WANTED THE TABLE TO WEIGH. ALL I'M SAYING IS I WANT TO TABLE THE ENTIRE CONSENT AGENDA 2A2B2C AND TWO D. SO WE HAD A MOTION AND WE HAD A SECOND.
YEAH. SO YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE MAIN MOTION WHICH IS TO ADOPT ALL OF THAT.
NOW THERE I WILL TAKE COUNCILMEMBER DARLING I'LL TAKE THAT AS A MOTION TO TABLE. YES A MOTION A MOTION TO TABLE IS IN ORDER. WHEN THERE IS A A MAIN MOTION ON THE TABLE. SO THERE'S BEEN A MOTION TO TABLE. AND THEN THE QUESTION BE WHETHER YOU HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND YOUR SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR. I, I, I. AND I'LL OPPOSE ONE JUST MYSELF. ARE YOU.
[3A) Authorization to Post RFP for Village Attorney Services]
LET'S GO FOR THE REGULAR AGENDA. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING. I'LL BE HANDLING THIS FIRST ITEM. THIS ITEM IS FOR THE VILLAGE COUNCIL'S AUTHORIZATION TO POST A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR VILLAGE ATTORNEY SERVICES IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THE VILLAGE COUNCIL'S SELECTION OF A NEW VILLAGE ATTORNEY. REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR VILLAGE ATTORNEY SERVICES HAS BEEN PREPARED FOR THE COUNCIL'S REVIEW AND AUTHORIZATION TO POST THE RFP, AS THE AGENDA MEMO INDICATES, BASED ACTUALLY ON THE ORIGINAL SOLICITATION THAT WAS PREPARED BY INTERIM VILLAGE ATTORNEY PAUL NICOLETTI ALL THE WAY BACK IN 2018, WITH SOME UPDATES TO BRING THE SOLICITATION CURRENT, I WOULD OFFER TO YOU THAT THE[03:15:03]
RFP IS BRIEF, BUT IT'S COMPREHENSIVE IN SCOPE, AND I WOULD SUGGEST IT SHOULD ELICIT VALUABLE INFORMATION ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE AND THE QUALIFICATION OF CANDIDATES.THE RFP ALSO INCLUDES A TIMELINE FOR VILLAGE COUNCIL SELECTION. IT STARTS OFF FIRST WITH TODAY, AUGUST 27TH VILLAGE COUNCIL AUTHORIZING THE POSTING OF AN RFP WITH A DUE DATE OF SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2026 FOR ALL RESPONSES TO BE RECEIVED AND DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE HAVE ON THE ON THE SCHEDULE FOR SEPTEMBER 24TH, WHICH IS ONE OF YOUR UPCOMING MEETINGS FOR THE VILLAGE COUNCIL TO GO THROUGH THOSE RESPONSES AND SHORTLIST THE RESPONSES, AND THEN SCHEDULING ON OCTOBER 6TH THROUGH SEVENTH, OR MAYBE JUST FITTING IT ON ONE DAY IF IT WORKS OUT FOR SCHEDULES, ONE ON ONE COUNCIL MEMBER INTERVIEWS WITH SHORTLISTED CANDIDATES, AND THEN AT THE MEETING, THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING. THE NEXT DAY ON OCTOBER 8TH, THE VILLAGE COUNCIL SELECTING FROM AMONG THOSE SHORTLISTED FOLKS THAT YOU'VE INTERVIEWED, A VILLAGE ATTORNEY WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS RFP BY THE COUNCIL, THE RFP CAN BE POSTED ON DEMAND STAR, WHICH IS THE VILLAGE'S ONLINE PROCUREMENT PLATFORM, AND YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ALSO POST IT WITH THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. AND WHAT I THINK WOULD BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE MEANS OF GETTING IT OUT. THE FLORIDA BAR, CITY, COUNTY AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT SECTION EMAIL LISTSERV, WHICH CONTAINS MOST OF THE PRACTICING LOCAL GOVERNMENT ATTORNEYS IN THE STATE. SO IT'D HAVE A VERY WIDE DISTRIBUTION TO THE FOLKS YOU'D BE TALKING TO. SO WITH THAT MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE VILLAGE COUNCIL REVIEW THE RFP AS IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED, DISCUSSED AND MAKE ANY REVISIONS AND AUTHORIZE STAFF TO POST THE RFP AND A COPY OF THE DRAFT WAS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM. I ALSO PROVIDED A PAPER COPY FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBER PHYSICALLY PRESENT HERE.
SO WITH THAT, GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU AUTHORIZE THE POSTING OF THE RFP. ANY QUESTIONS? MADAM MAYOR? SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.
QUESTION. I'M SO SORRY. YES. NO WORRIES, I DO. I HAVE A QUESTION. HERNANDEZ. CHICO, PLEASE. COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. SO HOW WOULD THE COMMITTEE BE WITH LIKE, TRYING TO. FILTER THE RESUMES OR THE APPLICATIONS? I DON'T THINK YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED IT TO ME, BUT I CAN'T RECALL. COUNCIL MEMBER THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. WITH REGARD TO THE THE PROCESS HERE, THERE IS ONE TWEAK, AND COUNCIL MEMBER DOWLING MAY RECALL IT AS WELL IN. WHEN THE PROCESS WAS USED ALL THE WAY BACK IN 2018, THE COUNCIL HAD A SHORT LISTING COMMITTEE EFFECTIVELY. AT THAT POINT THAT CONSISTED OF. I BELIEVE IT WAS TWO LOCAL GOVERNMENT ATTORNEYS, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS ACTUALLY NO, PARDON ME, IT WAS TWO LOCAL GOVERNMENT ATTORNEYS AND A COUNTY COMMISSIONER, WHICH I FOUND INTERESTING, LOOKING BACK AT ALL THAT. BUT IN ANY EVENT, THE THAT STEP WAS WAS OMITTED IN IN ALL OF THIS, HAVING THAT COMMITTEE THERE, I WILL OFFER TO YOU. IT'S IT'S IN FAIR PART A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF TIMING. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THIS IS AS STREAMLINED AND MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE. AND SO YOU CAN STILL GET AN OUTSTANDING RESULT YOU'RE GOING TO BE RECEIVING IN RESPONSES FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENT ATTORNEYS. AND EFFECTIVELY THE COUNCIL IN THE PROCESS LAID OUT HERE. COUNCIL WILL BE GETTING ALL OF THEM AND TAKING A LOOK AT THEM.
AND THEN YOU'LL FIGURE OUT WHO YOU THINK WOULD SERVE YOU BEST. AND YOU COME TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH A SHORT LIST AND THEN PROCEED ON FROM THAT. I WOULD OFFER TO YOU THAT IT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM KIND OF A REGULAR HIRING SITUATION IN THAT OFTENTIMES WHEN YOU HAVE A REGULAR HIRING SITUATION FOR HIRING FOR THIS OR THAT OR WHAT HAVE YOU, YOU'LL HAVE FOLKS APPLYING THAT HAVE NO JOB EXPERIENCE HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT AT ALL. AT THE VERY
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LEAST, HERE YOU'RE GOING TO GET MEMBERS OF THE FLORIDA BAR APPLYING, AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THEIR RESUMES AND OTHER INFORMATION AND SEE WHETHER YOU THINK THEY HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE OR NOT AS MUCH RELEVANT EXPERIENCE OR WHAT HAVE YOU. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THAT UP, COUNCIL MEMBER. BUT THAT THAT'S KIND OF THE ONE DISTINCTION HERE. WE DON'T HAVE OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT ATTORNEYS SITTING IN AND KIND OF SHORTLISTING THEM FOR YOU IN THE FIRST INSTANCE. AND THE OTHER ITEM I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IN REGARDS OF THIS IS WHAT WOULD THE COUNCIL BE OPEN TO HAVING LIKE AT THE SAME DAY THAT SO THAT THESE CANDIDATES COME IN TO INTERVIEW WITH THE COUNCIL, WE CAN HAVE LIKE A SET TIME THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN MEET OUR FUTURE ATTORNEY. I LEAVE THAT TO THE COUNCIL. I, I GUESS, TO, TO HELP THE THE WHOLE COUNCIL TEASE THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT. IS, IS THAT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO MEET MAYBE THE SHORTLISTED CANDIDATES? YEAH. THE CHOSEN ONE OR THE SHORTLIST.CORRECT. YES. SHORTLIST. SHORTLIST. YEAH. AND I WILL I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THAT THAT IS A PROCESS I HAVE PERSONALLY GONE THROUGH IN, IN SOME OTHER CITIES WHERE THERE IS THAT THAT IS PART OF THE PROCESS AFTER AFTER SHORTLISTING AND SO ON, WHERE YOU HAVE THAT. WE'RE WAITING FOR A VOTE OR YOU HAVE. I'M SO SORRY. YES, MA'AM. NO NO WORRIES. WHEN WHEN LOOKING AT THE RFP, I KNOW IT'S A LONG NIGHT WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE RFP, I WANTED TO SEE IF YOU WERE WILLING TO MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES AS IT RELATES TO YOUR TIME. WITH THE 45 DAY PERIOD. I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD MAYBE DO FROM. EXTEND YOUR SERVICES UNTIL OCTOBER 22ND, AND THAT WOULD GIVE US, I THINK, AN ADDITIONAL WEEK FOR THE APPLICATION PROCESS TO BE 30 DAYS VERSUS I THINK WE CURRENTLY HAVE LIKE 14 DAYS OR 15 DAYS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A TRADITIONAL STANDARD, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE THIS JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR YOUR LIKING. AND THEN OCTOBER THE 8TH WILL BE THE SHORTLIST. AND THEN WE CAN HAVE INTERVIEWS ON THE 12TH AND THE 13TH OF OCTOBER. I BELIEVE THAT'S A MONDAY AND A TUESDAY. AND THAT'S WHEN I BELIEVE HERNANDEZ WAS MENTIONING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY EVENTS. I THINK THAT'D BE A GREAT TIME. WE CAN SET THAT UP. AND THEN OCTOBER 22ND, THE VILLAGE COUNCIL WILL CHOOSE THE NEW ATTORNEY. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO TO SEE IF WE COULD DRAFT A PROCLAMATION FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE HERE. YOU HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE THE BEGINNING, AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM WHAT YOU HAVE DONE HERE AT THE VILLAGE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ON THAT. BUT AND SO IF WE COULD DO THE THE PROCLAMATION, BUT ALSO LOOK AT THOSE ALTERNATIVE DATES, AND I CAN RUN THOSE BY YOU BECAUSE I KNOW I WENT PRETTY QUICKLY. COUNCIL MEMBER, I, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND ONE MORE TIME, THE, THE TIMELINE YOU HAD THERE WAS BASICALLY BUMP SELECTION BACK TO THE 22ND. SO YEAH, SO THE APPLICATION PROCESS WOULD GO FROM AUGUST 28TH UNTIL SEPTEMBER 28TH. IF WE APPROVE THAT TO TONIGHT. TO THE 28TH AND THEN SHORTLISTING AT THE MEETING ON THE EIGHTH, OCTOBER THE 8TH. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE INTERVIEWS WITH THE COUNCIL'S ONE ON ONE AND COMMUNITY. WE CAN DO THOSE OVER A PERIOD OF TWO DAYS, OCTOBER THE 12TH AND 13TH. IS OCTOBER 12TH, A HOLIDAY FOR THE VILLAGE. IT'S JUST COMING UP AS A HOLIDAY.
IT'S SHOWING COLUMBUS DAY HERE. I DON'T THINK WE. OH YEAH. NO. OKAY. FOR A JUNETEENTH. YES.
YEAH THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. AND THEN OF COURSE OCTOBER 22ND. THEN THAT'S WHEN WE'LL CHOOSE.
SO IT PUSHES US BACK MAYBE A WEEK OR TWO. BUT WITH THE THE RATE OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST TO GIVE THIS THIS APPLICATION PERIOD JUST A
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LITTLE MORE TIME. IF THE COUNCIL IS OKAY WITH THAT. COUNCIL MEMBERS. MADAM MAYOR, MADAM VICE MAYOR, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, I CAN MAKE IT WORK WITH MY SCHEDULE AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AND I'LL BE VERY, VERY SPECIFIC. WE START THE APPLICATION PROCESS AUGUST THE 28TH THROUGH SEPTEMBER 28TH. THEN WE'LL HAVE THE SHORT LIST ON OCTOBER THE 8TH, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE INTERVIEWS OCTOBER 12TH AND 13TH. THIS IS VILLAGE COUNCIL ONE ON ONE AND THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN OF COURSE, OCTOBER 22ND, THE VILLAGE COUNCIL WILL CHOOSE THE NEW ATTORNEY. I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE. OPPOSED I. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU. 3D PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS.[3B) PLANNING ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD]
YEAH. I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF BECAUSE IT'S GETTING LATE. BUT AND THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN HERE. BUT ESSENTIALLY AT THE LAST MEETING, THE MAYOR RAISED A CONCERN THAT THE ABE MEETINGS WERE BEING CANCELED. IF WE DIDN'T HAVE AN AGENDA AND SUGGESTED THAT THEY MEET REGARDLESS. AND SO AS I WENT THROUGH THE LANGUAGE ESTABLISHING THE PCRB, WHICH IS YOUR PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD. THE WAY THEY'RE ADVERTISING AND ALL THAT, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT WHAT WE WOULD DO IS NOT CANCEL THOSE MEETINGS, BUT WHAT WE WOULD BE PUTTING ON THEIR AGENDA. IF THERE'S NO PLANNING DECISIONS FOR THEM TO CONSIDER ARE THE ELDERS. AND WE COULD START TAKING THEM AT, YOU KNOW, THE CHUNKS, IF YOU WILL, SO THAT THEY COULD GO THROUGH THEM, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU KNOW, WE CAN KEEP TRACK OF THAT BECAUSE WHEN THEN WHEN WE ARE READY TO CONSIDER MODIFICATIONS TO YOUR ELDERS, THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND SO THAT WOULD KEEP THEM WITH SOMETHING ON THEIR AGENDA. WE STREAMLINE IT SO THEY'RE NOT DRIFTING OFF AN AGENDA ITEM. WE CAN AGENDA THE ITEM, WE CAN GET THE INFORMATION TO THEM. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY EFFECTIVE WAY TO START MANAGING THOSE CHANGES. THAT'S JUST MY RECOMMENDATION. I LIKE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. SO THE, THE, I THINK THE MOTION WAS JUST TO PROVIDE DIRECTION. YES. PROVIDE DIRECTION. COUNCIL. HAVE ANY COMMENTS? BEING PREVIOUSLY SITTING ON THAT BOARD? I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THAT IS A GREAT IDEA. AND IT ALSO WILL ALLOW FOR THE THE NEWLY APPOINTED MEMBERS TO GET ACQUAINTED WITH THE LDR PROCESS AND HOW IT WORKS WHEN WHEN THIS PROCESS. TAKES PLACE. HOW WILL YOU GO ABOUT BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT THEY WOULD BASICALLY BE REVIEWING THE ELDERS IN CHUNKS AND MAKING. OR I GUESS, RECONFIGURING LANGUAGE. HOW WILL YOU GO ABOUT COMPILING THE RESULTS? WE WOULD TRACK IT LIKE YOU DO WITH OTHER LEGAL DOCUMENTS. YOU WOULD UNDERLINE INSERTED LANGUAGE AND STRIKETHROUGHS THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED. OF COURSE, IT STILL HAS TO COME TO THE COUNCIL THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPROVAL. BUT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE CHUNKS, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE CHAPTER, YOU KNOW, ONE NIGHT IT MAY ONLY BE ONE CHAPTER, MAYBE IT'S HALF A CHAPTER, JUST DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH INFORMATION IS IN THERE WITHIN THAT. BUT THE STAFF AS STAFF AND YOUR MINUTES WOULD REFLECT THE CHANGES THAT WERE BEING DISCUSSED AND RECOMMENDED AND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT EVENTUALLY WE WOULD START BRINGING BACK TO THIS COUNCIL.ONCE WE GET CLOSER TO THE TIME WHEN WE CAN AFFECT THOSE CHANGES. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? YES, MA'AM. HOW SOON WOULD WE BE ABLE TO APPOINT OUR APPOINTEES? WE WERE GOING TO LOOK FOR THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING. THERE IS NO SEPTEMBER MEETING CURRENTLY BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING NO MATERIALS. BUT WE WERE PLANNING ON DOING THAT THROUGH NEXT MEETING, AND THAT WOULD GIVE US AMPLE TIME TO NOTIFY THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE THAT WOULD BE COMING OFF, BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY BEEN APPROACHED BY SOME OF THEM TO SEE IF THEY'RE
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STAYING OR IF THEY'RE. AND OF COURSE, IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT. IF YOU COULD JUST JUST MAKE A MOTION THAT YOU AGREE THAT YOU WANT YOUR PCAB TO BEGIN THE LDR REVIEW PROCESS AND KEEP THEIR MEET REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETINGS ACCORDINGLY? THAT'S. CAN I GET A MOTION? SO MOVED. SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. OPPOSED? NONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE[3C) INDIANTOWN COMMUNITY TRUST FUND]
INDIAN TOWN COMMUNITY TRUST FUND. YES, MA'AM. THIS WAS ASKED TO BE PUT ON HERE. SO THE INDIAN TOWN COMMUNITY TRUST FUND WAS CREATED BACK WHEN THE CO-GEN PLANT WAS BEING DEVELOPED IN INDIAN TOWN. AND THE INTENT WAS THE INDIVIDUALS DEVELOPERS PUT $1 MILLION INTO A TRUST FUND ACCOUNT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT ANY INTEREST EARNINGS THAT WERE REALIZED ON THOSE FUNDS WOULD THEN GO THROUGH A GRANT PROGRAM, IF YOU WILL, AND GO TOWARD PROGRAMS THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY OF THE INDIAN VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, IT WAS GOING TO EXPIRE IN 2025. AND WHEN WE WERE DOING THE ALLOCATIONS IN 2025, THAT'S WHAT WE, WE, WE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AT THAT TIME WERE KEPT TO $5,000 INCREMENTS.ALSO SETTING SOME FUNDS ASIDE INTO RESERVES BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING AWAY. WELL, THEN WHEN FP AND L STARTED LOOKING AT THE THE ABILITY TO TAKE THOSE FUNDS BACK BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GIVE THEM THE MILLION DOLLARS BACK. THEY MADE A DETERMINATION THAT IT WOULD MUCH BE BE MUCH EASIER TO JUST CONTINUE THAT ARRANGEMENT.
SO THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT ARRANGEMENT. SO THE COMMITTEE REGROUPED AND TOOK IN APPLICATIONS AND REVIEWED THEM. THE THE GRANT AGREEMENT OR THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS ESTABLISHED FOR THE TRUST FUND DOES ASK THAT THE COMMITTEE PRIORITIZE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY DONE, BUT THE FUNDS THAT WERE BEING RECOMMENDED TO BE SPENT SPENT ALL THE FUNDS, WHICH INCLUDED SOME FUNDING THAT HAD BEEN SET ASIDE INITIALLY BY THE COUNCIL TO HAVE A RESERVE. AND I DID REACH OUT TO THE VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS TO SEE WHO STILL NEEDED THE FUNDING AND WHO DID NOT, AND THAT'S WITHIN THE AGENDA ITEM. AND SO REALLY, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL. YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS OR THOUGHT PROCESSES. YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND AWARD THOSE THAT ARE STILL LOOKING FOR THEIR MONEY. AND I HAVE THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IN HERE. OR YOU COULD THERE WAS A SUGGESTION TO KIND OF START OVER, BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU ALL. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. YES, MA'AM. MADAM MAYOR, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THE INDIAN TOWN TRUST FUND IS VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO ME. I WAS ON THE TRUST FUND BEFORE WE BECAME A VILLAGE. AND SO I TOOK GREAT INTEREST IN THIS. AND WHEN LOOKING AT THE AWARDEES, I THINK THE AMOUNT WAS 33,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK WE SHOULD APPROVE THAT AMOUNT FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS. I BELIEVE IT'S 33 FOR THOSE ONES WHO REQUESTED. BUT I ALSO WANTED TO OPEN UP THE APPLICATION JUST FOR THE INDIAN TOWN COMMUNITY SPORTS. IF THERE'S ANY TEAMS THAT MAY NEED SPORTS WITHIN, LIKE THE NEXT MONTH TO HAVE THEM APPLY, BECAUSE WE WE ALL KNOW THAT THE, THE THUNDERBIRDS DON'T HAVE UNIFORMS. THEY'RE THEY'RE MATCHING MISMATCHED UNIFORMS. AND, AND SO WE, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM IMMEDIATELY. AND SO, BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT UNLESS WE OPEN AN APPLICATION AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION.
ONCE EVERYBODY HAS MADE THEIR COMMENTS. ANY COMMENTS? YES, I HAVE A COMMENT. I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. AS LONG AS THEY GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS AS EVERYONE ELSE DID, AND THAT IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE ONES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN AWARDED, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. SO I WOULD NEED CLARIFICATION. ALSO, THERE WERE AMOUNTS THAT WERE REQUESTED, AND THEN THERE WERE AMOUNTS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE. AND SO IF YOU WANTED TO GO BACK AND AND AWARD THE AMOUNTS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE, I JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT DIRECTION AND THE ONES THAT STILL NEED THEM. WE'RE STILL REQUESTING THE FUNDS. THE, THE ONE I KNOW YOU DID YOU DID YOU SAY THAT THERE YOU FOUND OUT THERE ARE SOME
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THAT THAT DIDN'T NEED. CORRECT. THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE EITHER FOUND OTHER MECHANISMS OF FUNDING OR NO LONGER ARE IN. DO YOU HAVE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF OF THOSE PERSONS THAT DIDN'T NEED. IT DID. I'M SORRY. OH, I THOUGHT SO. LINDA, DO YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU? YEAH. HOW MUCH? YOU GOT? I'M NOT. APPLICATION. YEAH, I WAS LOOKING SO USUALLY MY UNDERSTANDING APPLICATIONS. WELL, WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD. I'M SORRY. 33,000 055 IF THE COUNCIL WAS TO CONSIDER AWARDING THE MONIES RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE AND STILL DESIRED, THE TOTAL AWARD WOULD BE 33055 YES. I'D ASK THE NUMBER. YES. SO THE AMOUNT THAT WAS LEFT TO BE LEFT IN IT. I'M SO SORRY. NO, NO, NO, THE AMOUNT THAT WAS GOING TO BE LEFT IN IT WAS THAT THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE LEFT TO ROLL OVER INITIALLY.YES, MA'AM. INITIALLY THERE WAS 25% THAT WAS REQUESTED. THAT WAS 23,500. BUT IF YOU TOOK 25% OF THE FUND, CURRENTLY, IT'D BE 32,500. OKAY. SO COUNCIL COUNCILMAN DOWLING, DID YOU HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR DID THEY ASK FOR A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT? SO I, I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE LETTING THEM GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND, AND ALL OF THAT. I JUST KNOW THAT THERE IS A NEED. AND, AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO, TO FILL THAT NEED RIGHT NOW. I AGREE. WHEN ARE THE DATES FOR THE APPLICATION PROCESS? WHAT ARE THE DATES? SO NORMALLY, SO MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY WERE IN THE SPRING, BUT EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED NOW. AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON TO RELEASE THESE FUNDS FROM LAST YEAR. AND SO THAT'S WHY I DID NOT WANT TO SCRAP EVERYTHING BECAUSE WE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, THIS COMMITTEE HAS ALREADY SPENT DUE DILIGENCE, YOU KNOW, TO AWARD THIS MONEY, THE 33,000. I JUST WANTED TO JUST OPEN UP THE BRACKET FOR. AND IT'D BE A SPECIFIC THING SO THAT WE CAN HELP THIS PARTICULAR YOUTH GROUP OR YOUTH GROUPS IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. AND SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS WE COULD OPEN OPEN THE APPLICATION FOR 15 DAYS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, VERY SHORT. SO IT GIVES EVERY SPORTS FOLKS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATIONS. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GATHER THE COMMITTEE BACK TOGETHER. AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE OR WHO HAVE, YOU KNOW, MOVED ON. I KNOW ULTIMATELY THE COUNCIL GIVES THE FINAL DIRECTION. AND SO WHATEVER THEY RECOMMEND WILL, YOU KNOW, GO, GO WITH THAT. HAVE THE APPLICATIONS BEEN UPDATED? WE WE HAD RECOMMENDED THAT THEY BE UPDATED. THAT HAS NOT COME TO THE COUNCIL FOR THAT, BECAUSE THE DIRECTION WAS TO BRING THAT BACK THE WAY IT HAD ENDED. AND SO ORIGINALLY IT WAS ALSO SO THAT THEY WOULD PAY IT BACK. CORRECT. I WAS GOING TO. YES. INITIALLY THE GRANT WAS A REIMBURSABLE GRANT, BUT THEN THERE WAS A DECISION MADE TO GIVE THE FUNDS UP FRONT AND THEN HAVE THE RECEIPTS. I HAVE A QUESTION. SO FOR. THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE SPEAKING ON RIGHT NOW, THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN, I GUESS, APPROVED, BUT NO ONE HAS ACTUALLY RECEIVED IT. IS THAT WELL, THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED. SO YOU HAVE A COMMITTEE. SO THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL UNTIL THE COUNCIL SAYS, YES, THE FUNDS ARE NOT RELEASED.
ONCE THE COUNCIL AGREES, THEN THE IT'S NOT REALLY A CONTRACT, BUT THE GRANT AGREEMENT THEN IS FINALIZED AND THE FUNDS WOULD BE RELEASED. SO NOW I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE ANTHONY ANTHONY IS ASKING THAT THE APPLICATION WHICH I WOULD SUPPORT, BUT BECAUSE HE'S ASKING THAT IT BE REOPENED, DOES THAT HINDER THE OTHER APPLICANTS FROM RECEIVING THEIR AWARD? THAT'S AT THE PURVIEW OF THE OF THE COUNCIL. I MEAN, WE CAN WE CAN DO IT EITHER WAY.
VICE MAYOR. WELL, THE OTHER THE THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE BY THE COMMITTEE SHOULD NOT BE AFFECTED BY WHATEVER IS LEFT OVER AND OPENING IT UP. NOW, WHEN YOU SAY FOR THE FOR THE YOUTH COMMUNITY SPORTS, THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY SPORTS. SO
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IS IT JUST GOING TO BE OPEN FOR JUST THAT? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. YES. AND, AND I WANT TO MAKE A, A SPECIFIC MOTION TO PUT THAT ALL IN LANGUAGE. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO NOW HERE, HERE IS HERE IS THE ISSUE WITH THAT. SOMEONE ELSE MAY SAY THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO TO, YOU KNOW, HELPING OUT THE SPORTS TEAM. BUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR OTHER PEOPLE? OH YEAH. I I'M, I'M NOT LIMITED THIS TO THE THUNDERBIRDS. THIS IS THIS IS ABOUT REGULAR PEOPLE. YES. EVERYBODY. YES. BUT IN MY SPECIFIC ASK, I'M SPECIFICALLY DEALING WITH YOUTH SPORTS AND YOUTH RECREATION PROGRAMS THAT SERVING INDIAN TOWN RESIDENTS.OKAY, I'M I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE FAIR TO OTHER PEOPLE IN THE EVENT THAT THEY HAVE AN ENTITY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO START ALL OVER BECAUSE WE, WE ALREADY DID IT. AND WHAT'S LEFT, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IF THE IF THE THUNDERBIRDS AND ANOTHER TEAM WANT TO DO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WITHIN THE TIME FRAME, THAT'S GREAT. AND GO BACK THROUGH THE THROUGH THE COMMITTEE. THAT'S GREAT. YES, MA'AM. I, I, I JUST, I, I, BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS WHY IT'S ONLY THEM. RIGHT? WELL, WELL, TO ME INITIALLY MY THOUGHTS WAS TO SCRAP THE WHOLE THING AND DON'T DISPERSE ANY TYPE OF MONEY. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S FAIR. IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME. SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO JUST BRING THIS IN SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO HELP AN ORGANIZATION, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY, RIGHT NOW WITH THAT, IF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WOULD LIKE TO APPLY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO APPLY AS WELL. YOU KNOW, SO THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE, THE PROCESS AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE NECESSARY PAPERWORK. BUT I WANTED TO I THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM WHAT WE CAN FIX RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO, TO RECOMMEND THAT. AND IF YOU'RE OKAY, MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO TO TO MAKE A MOTION.
ALL RIGHT. I MOVE TO ESTABLISH A SET OF SUPPLEMENTAL FY 2025 2026 INDIAN TOWN COMMUNITY TRUST FUND APPLICATION PERIOD FROM SEPTEMBER 1ST TO SEPTEMBER 15TH. AND THIS APPLICATION PERIOD WILL BE LIMITED TO YOUTH SPORTS AND YOUTH RECREATION PROGRAMS SERVING THE INDIAN TOWN RESIDENTS WHILE PRESERVING ALL APPLICATIONS TIMELY SUBMITTED DURING THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION PROCESS. THE. CAN I CLARIFY, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. YOU WANT TO AWARD TO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE STILL INTERESTED IN THE FUNDS? YES, MA'AM. AND THE AMOUNT THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE? YES, MA'AM. THE 33,000 AND SOME CHANGE. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.
I'LL SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? I'M SORRY. I HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT. OH, I'M SO SORRY, MISS LINDA. FOR THE RECORD, I THINK. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALL GOING TO GET THIS IN IN THREE MINUTES OR NOT. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ITEMS WITH THIS WITH THE THE PROGRAM THAT NEEDED TO BE DECIDED BY COUNCIL TONIGHT. ONE OF THEM WAS A DEFINITE DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS GOING TO BE REIMBURSABLE OR THIS IS PROVIDED WHEN AWARDED. AS FAR AS THE MONIES GO. WE NEED TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT HOW TO DETERMINE WHEN TO DRAW THE MONEY. THE MONEY, THE 23,000 THAT WE SET ASIDE IN 2024, I BELIEVE IT WAS. NOW, THAT SHOULD THAT HAS. I THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT THE LAST TIME IT WAS BEING TAKEN OUT OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WAS AVAILABLE. ARE WE GOING TO BE WITHHOLDING 25% OF THE 2025 INTEREST EARNINGS AND ADD THAT TO WHAT WE HAD SAVED FROM 2024, OR ARE WE SLOSHING EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND MAKING A MESS OF IT? THE I DON'T WE ARE. WE ARE SO FAR INTO THE YEAR RIGHT NOW.
NORMALLY WE WOULD BE OPENING APPLICATIONS FOR THE 2526 DISTRIBUTIONS NOW TO GET
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APPLICATIONS THAT WE CAN REVIEW AND AWARD BY JANUARY. AND HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT HOLDING ON TO APPLICATIONS THAT WERE DONE LAST YEAR, OPENING IT UP FOR A FEW MORE NOW AND THEN HAVE TO OPEN UP THE WHOLE NEW PROCESS AGAIN FOR NEW APPLICATIONS. THIS SEEMS TO BE VERY CONFUSING. I, I PERSONALLY THINK THAT IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER TO GIVE THE THE LAST YEAR'S APPLICANTS A PRIORITY FOR AND SAY THAT THEIR APPLICATIONS ARE GOOD TO BE HELD ON TO THAT FOR THE NEXT YEAR. START OUR PROCESS IN IN SEPTEMBER TO OPEN UP TO NEW APPLICATIONS AND AWARD IN JANUARY, I. AND I DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT THAT ANY DECISIONS SHOULD BE MADE FROM HERE. NOW BEFORE THE COMMITTEE HAS VIEWED THE APPLICATIONS AS TO WHERE THE MONEY SHOULD BE GOING, IT SHOULD BE GOING TO THE COMMITTEE FIRST AND THEN COMING TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. COUNCIL MEMBER DARLING, THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, THERE HAVE BEEN $33,000 THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED OR THAT WILL BE ALLOCATED FOR AWARDEES. THEY'RE STILL GOING TO GET THAT MONEY, AND MY GOAL IS THAT THEY CAN GET IT BY OCTOBER 1ST. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE GOAL BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING THIS LONG. BUT, YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE. AND SO BUT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE HAVE AN IMMEDIATE NEED. AND SO I BELIEVE THIS COUNCIL HAS ALREADY MADE MOTIONS. CAN I ASK YOU A SECOND TO AMEND YOUR MOTION SO THAT WE CAN SAVE THE 25% THAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO SAVE EACH TIME? OKAY. IF YOU CAN AMEND THAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO JUST OPEN IT UP NOW FOR SPORTS. YES. FOR YOUTH SPORTS. YEP. LIMITED TO YOUTH SPORTS AND YOUTH RECREATION PROGRAMS SERVING INDIAN TOWN RESIDENTS. SO DO WE. ARE YOU STILL GOING TO SECOND WITH THE AMENDED MOTION? OH, CAN CAN I ALSO ADD, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS CONVERSATION ABOUT GIVING THE FUNDS UP FRONT. CAN WE QUICKLY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TONIGHT THAT ONCE THIS MONEY IS AWARDED, WE'LL GIVE THEM THE CHECK AND THEN THEY PROVIDE RECEIPTS OR SOME TYPE OF PAPERWORK TO DISCUSS WHAT THEY SPENT THE MONEY ON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.BECAUSE, I MEAN, I THINK, AS YOU MENTIONED, A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. AND SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM, YOU KNOW, FIRST AND MAYBE GET IT ON THE BACK END. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT TO THE TO THE MOTION AS WELL. IF THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE. IT WAS ALREADY DETERMINED THAT WAS OKAY. I'M BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL.
WONDERFUL. THEY HAVE TO RETURN THEIR. THEY HAVE TO TURN IN THE RECEIPTS FOR THE MONEY THAT WAS SPENT. YES, THAT WAS CHANGED INITIALLY AND NEVER REVERSED. OKAY, WONDERFUL. AND COUNCILMAN DOWLING, THE REASON THAT IT TOOK SO LONG FPNL WANTED TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE BUT BUT AND THEY WANTED TO REVISE DIFFERENT THINGS. THEY WANT TO HAVE TWO THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER. AND IT NEVER MATERIALIZED. AND THEY SAID, MOVE FORWARD. WONDERFUL. OKAY.
YES, MA'AM. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ON TO THAT MOTION THAT WE HAVE A RESERVE OF 25, 25% OF EACH FY PERIOD AS A RESERVE. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ALL OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS? ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. YES. I'M GOING TO DO.
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I'M SORRY. GIVE ME ONE SECOND MISS KELSEY. HELLO AGAIN. THIS TIME IT'S NOT ABOUT DATA CENTERS. I PROMISE I'LL GET BACK TO THAT ON TUESDAY. BUT SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO BRING OUT BRING UP WAS THE LATE FEES THAT MIKE TALKED ABOUT. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN COMPARE A $35 LATE FEE TO A CREDIT CARD PAYMENT. ONE, YOU NEED TO LIVE, THE OTHER YOU DON'T. THAT'S[03:50:02]
WRONG. WATER IS AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE. RATHER THAN BRAGGING ABOUT ADDING THE $35 LATE FEE, MAYBE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE REALITY OF POVERTY. WHAT ARE WHAT ARE PEOPLE HERE ARE ARE DEALING WITH A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OUR RESIDENTS LIVE AT OR NEAR POVERTY LEVEL, AND AT $35 CAN MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE. IF SOMEONE IS HABITUALLY LATE, SURE, HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. BUT PENALIZING PEOPLE WHO ARE SIMPLY STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET, THAT'S DIFFERENT. IT. IT WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE ACTUAL STATISTICS BEHIND THE CLAIM THAT THE LATE PAYMENTS HAVE GOTTEN BETTER. IS THAT BECAUSE RESIDENTS ARE HAVING AN EASIER TIME PAYING THEIR BILLS, OR COULD THAT COULD THAT DATA BE SKEWED BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE NEW RESIDENTS MOVING IN? SO A CHANGE IN THE NUMBERS DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THOSE FINANCIAL STRUGGLES HAVE IMPROVED. ALSO, MY LAST POINT, THE WAY THAT THIS WAS PRESENTED TO ME, IN MY OPINION, COMES ACROSS AS DISMISSIVE, DISMISSIVE OF THE FINANCIAL STRUGGLES MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS FACE. FRANKLY, I FOUND THE TONE TO BE LACKING COMPASSION AND IN VERY POOR TASTE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BASIC NEEDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SERVING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MARSHA POWERS.YEAH. HI. GOOD EVENING. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS. WELCOME. RUNNING FOR OFFICE IS A SPORT AND YOU SURVIVED. AND CONGRATULATIONS, YOU HAVE YOUR WORK CUT OUT, CUT OUT FOR YOU AFTER LISTENING TO YOUR BUDGET PRESENTATION. AND I KNOW WE'RE WE'RE IN THE SAME BOAT IN THE MARTIN COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT WITH DECLINING ENROLLMENT. SO WE HAVE OUR OWN ISSUES. BUT WARFIELD ELEMENTARY CAME UP, AND I WANTED TO OFFER TO YOU ALL EITHER FOR US TO COME AS A THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO PRESENT TO YOU. WE DO HAVE PLANS TO HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY EVENTS TO INFORM THE PUBLIC.
WE'VE STARTED THAT PROCESS. SO PLEASE, IF YOU COULD LET TARYN KNOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION AT ONE OF YOUR MEETINGS ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN INDIANTOWN AS FAR AS SCHOOLS GO, WE WOULD LOVE TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING, NOT ONLY IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, BUT ALSO THE PUBLIC CHARTER SCHOOL, INDIANTOWN HIGH SCHOOL, SO WE CAN MAKE THAT ARRANGEMENT.
IF YOU WOULD PREFER TO HAVE A ONE ON ONE MEETING, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT TOO. SO WHATEVER YOU PREFER. I'D ALSO LIKE TO MENTION TOO, AND I WAS ABLE TO SHARE WITH COUNCILMAN DOWLING DURING HIS CAMPAIGN. THE ISSUE OF BUSSES KEEPS COMING UP. WE DO HAVE BUSSES STAGED HERE IN INDIANTOWN. WE HAVE THREE OF THEM IN IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY. SO UP HERE AND WAS RIDING THE BUS, WE WE HAD MANY BUS DRIVERS THAT LIVED HERE IN INDIANTOWN. WE NOW HAVE ONE.
ONE EMPLOYEE THAT LIVES IN INDIANTOWN THAT DRIVES A BUS. SO THE BUS DEPOT KIND OF WENT AWAY AND WE HAD TO KIND OF REINVENT THAT WHEN WE HAD AN EMERGENCY. SO WE HAVE ONE BUS DRIVER THAT DRIVES IN INDIANTOWN RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S IT. SO WE'RE WORKING TO WORK WITH THAT EMPLOYEE BECAUSE IF SHE STARTS HER ROUTE, IT'S THERE'S SOME COMPLEXITIES TO IT.
BUT I WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT FOR SAFETY REASONS, WE DO HAVE BUSSES STAGED HERE SO THAT IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY OF ANY KIND, WE CAN GET THOSE BUSSES TO EITHER WARFIELD OR INDIANTOWN MIDDLE AND GET THE KIDS TO A SAFE PLACE. SO THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN.
THANK YOU. JENNIFER LONGSHORE. HELLO. FOR THE RECORD, JENNIFER LONGSHORE LIFETIME. OH MY GOSH.
THANK YOU. GOOD LORD. LIFETIME. UNIONTOWN. RESIDENT. OKAY. AND I KNOW WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY IS PROBABLY GOING TO PUT A TARGET ON MY BACK, BUT I FRANKLY DON'T CARE. I'M HERE AS A LONGTIME LIFETIME ANYTOWN CITIZEN. I KNOW THAT THE DATA CENTER TOPIC IS A HOT BUTTON, AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF YOU CAMPAIGNED ON THAT, AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF FRUSTRATION FROM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS HERE ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS AND THE IMPACT AND ALL THAT. I RESPECT ALL OF THAT. BUT I ALSO WANT TO REMIND, ESPECIALLY ANTHONY AND JANET, IF SHE'S STILL HERE. BACK WHEN WE WERE GOING FOR INCORPORATION, YOU GUYS WERE AT THE HEAD OF THAT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN SO THAT WE HAD MORE OF A SAY ON WHAT HAPPENED HERE. IF I COMMEND COUNCILMAN OR MAYOR BROWN, I'M SORRY, I'M GETTING A LITTLE I HATE PUBLIC SPEAKING.
I COMMEND MAYOR BROWN FOR HAVING THE WHEREWITHAL TO SAY, HOLD ON. BEFORE WE GET LAWYERS INVOLVED, LET'S TAKE A STEP BACK AND SEE IF THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE. BECAUSE THINK BACK TO INCORPORATION DAYS. AND I'M SORRY, I HATE THIS. DO YOU REMEMBER? I KNOW YOU REMEMBER. ERIC AND HIS CREW COMPLETELY OPPOSED INCORPORATION FROM JUMP STREET.
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HIS GOAL FROM DAY ONE HAS BEEN THE DISSOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE. YOU GOT TO REMEMBER THAT YOU WERE HERE. YOU SAW IT. SO, OF COURSE, HE HOPES THAT WE PROCEED WITH A MORATORIUM, BECAUSE THEN WE GET SUED, AND THEN THAT'S THE END OF THE VILLAGE. SO PLEASE DO NOT LET THE VILLAGE DIE OVER ONE POINT. RUNNING A MUNICIPALITY IS MUCH MORE BROAD THAN DATA CENTERS.AND I KNOW THAT IT'S A BIG TOPIC, AND I AGREE. MAYBE THERE'S A ROUTE, AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE THAT WE CAN GET THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. BUT UNTIL THERE'S AN END USER, THE LANDOWNER CAN'T GIVE YOU THOSE ANSWERS. AND THAT'S WHAT I WISH THE PUBLIC WOULD UNDERSTAND.
THERE'S DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LAND USE AND THEN THE END USER AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD.
THAT'S THE QUESTIONS YOU WANT ANSWERED. THERE IS NO END USER YET THAT I'M AWARE OF. MAYBE THERE COULD BE, BUT THAT'S WHO YOU HAVE TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS TO. BUT THE LANDOWNERS HAVE RIGHTS AS WELL. AND IF THEY TURN AROUND AND SUE US, THAT'S THE END OF THE VILLAGE. AND THEN WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? WE GO RIGHT BACK TO BEING RUN BY MARTIN COUNTY. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THEY DON'T WANT ONE IN THEIR BACKYARD. SO WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO, DUMP IT IN UNIONTOWN? THAT'S WHY WE BECAME INDUSTRIALIZED TO BEGIN WITH, BECAUSE THE COUNTY DIDN'T WANT TO BUY THEIR BEACH. SORRY, I GET EMOTIONAL BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT INDIANTOWN. YEAH, PLEASE GO AHEAD, MAKE YOUR COMMENTS. I KNOW IT'S COMING. I'LL BE ALL OVER FACEBOOK TOMORROW. YEAH WE DO. NO. OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS SOMEONE FROM THE BACK. RIGHT. PLEASE, PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE BROADER FUTURE OF THE TOWN, PLEASE. BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT ONE THING, AND I JUST. I CAN PROMISE YOU, IF IT GOES BACK TO THE COUNTY, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, YEAH, SURE. WE'LL TAKE THE REVENUE FROM IT, STICK IT IN INDIANTOWN, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS FOR DECADES.
THAT'S WHY WE WERE INDUSTRIALIZED TO BEGIN WITH. AND THAT'S MY POINT. AND I'LL LET IT GO. SORRY. I'M GOING TO ERIC MILLER. OKAY. THAT'S TRUE. THERE'S NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE.
BUT ERIC DERANGEMENT SYNDROME IS ALIVE AND WELL. OF COURSE, IT'S ERIC AND HIS CREW, AND IT'S ALL MY FAULT. AND THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT I HAD TO DO WITH EVERYTHING. THERE'S A TARGET. LOOK, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP TONIGHT. THIS IS THE KIND OF LEADERSHIP THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR EARLIER WITH THE OTHER COUNCIL WAS TO HAVE AN OPEN MEETING FOR THE COUNCIL TO SIT AT THE DAIS, NOT TO MAKE A DECISION CLOSED AND BEING MANIPULATED BY OUTSIDE SOURCES TO MAKE YOUR MIND UP. YOU HAVE A BIG TASK AHEAD OF YOU. YOU'RE GOING TO SIT UP HERE AS ADULTS, KNOWING YOUR JOBS FULLY WELL. YOU KNOW THEM, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ADULT CONVERSATION IN THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO BE HERE TO WATCH IT. AND I WELCOME THAT. THAT IS TRANSPARENT. THERE'S NO ERIC MILLER CREW. THERE'S NO ME LEADING ANYTHING.
THIS IS WHAT WE CALL THE PEOPLE, THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. 68% IS AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE. IT'S A LANDSLIDE. SO THE ATTITUDE IS NOT ME. I DID NOT TAKE THOSE PEOPLE OUT AND MAKE THEM VOTE. SO LET'S STOP THERE. AS FAR AS THE DATA CENTERS AND THIS OLD CREW BRINGING THEM TO TOWN, YES, THEY INCLUDED DATA CENTERS. AND THAT WAS EARLY BEFORE THERE WAS SUCH A THING CALLED A HYPERSCALE DATA CENTER. THAT'S WHEN A DATA CENTER WAS LIKE BLUE STREAM AND WOULD FIT IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PARK. TO WIT, I MADE MY MONEY IN DATA CENTERS AND STILL WORK WITHIN THE INDUSTRY AS AN EXPERT. A HYPERSCALE DATA CENTER IS 3,000,000FT■S. AND WHO ARE THE LANDOWNERS? WE CAN'T FIND OUT BECAUSE YOU'RE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT HAS AN NDA THAT WE HAVE DISCLOSED THAT WON'T ALLOW HER TO DO THAT TO ANY ONE OF THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS OR PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF WHERE THIS STORY STARTS TO FALL ON MY SHOULDERS. OKAY. BECAUSE I'M EXPOSING TRUTHS THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE SEEN. AND AS FAR AS THE SCHOOL, I WELCOME MY MEETING COMING UP WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND MISS PRITCHETT. I KNOW IF AN ELECTION GOES A CERTAIN WAY WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, WE HAVE THREE VOTES TO KEEP WARFIELD WHERE IT'S AT, JUST FOR THE REASON OF NOT WANTING TO MOVE THOSE CHILDREN CLOSER TO AN ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARD CALLED A HYPERSCALE DATA CENTER. OKAY, SO IF YOU CONTINUE WITH YOUR EDITORS, I HOPE YOU SEEK TREATMENT. OKAY. EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME. I HAVE THE FLOOR. I HAVE THE FLOOR. EXCUSE ME.
PLEASE. SO MY POINT IS, I WANT TO SAY AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR IT AND I TOLD YOU IT WAS GOING TO GET CHAOTIC. WE'RE GOING TO STAY CALM. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE TRUTH, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO IT TRANSPARENTLY AS A COMMUNITY, I WELCOME IT. I WANT TO SEE HOW YOU GUYS DEAL WITH THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND YOU KNOW, IF I CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE TABLE, I WELCOME IT. BY THE WAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.
LAST ONE IS RORY GREENBERG. I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING YET. JUST ONE OF THE FIRST AND FOREMOST SAY CONGRATULATIONS ON THE ELECTION WIN. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY.
I'M THE NEW OWNER OF THE FLORIDA STEEL MILL, AND I'M ONE OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT'S LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD A DATA CENTER PROJECT. EVERYONE'S SAYING WE'RE HIDING IN THE BACKGROUND. I'VE BEEN AT EVERY MEETING THE PAST FEW MONTHS VERY EXCITED TO TO SIT DOWN
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WITH YOU GUYS AND BE VERY TRANSPARENT, TALK THROUGH THE PROCESS AND SEE WHAT WE COULD BRING TO THE VILLAGE. YOU KNOW, REALLY JUST WANTED TO GET UP AND SAY, NOT HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT, IF YOU WILL, RIGHT HERE TO TALK, HERE TO WORK WITH EVERYONE. REALLY THINK THERE'S A HUGE OPPORTUNITY HERE. THE VILLAGE HAS. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE VILLAGE, WORKING WITH THE RESIDENTS AND ADDRESSING ANY CONCERNS ANYONE HAS. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE EVOLUTION OF THE INDUSTRY. I KNOW EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET HOME, SO I WON'T GET INTO MY WHOLE SPIEL NOW, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, CERTAIN PROJECTS HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THE PAST A CERTAIN WAY.IT HAS EVOLVED. THESE THINGS TAKE 3 TO 4 YEARS TO PUT IN SERVICE. PROJECTS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE PROBABLY 5 TO 6 YEARS OLD, CLOSED LOOP WATER COOLING. THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS TO AVOID THE CONCERNS, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO ADDRESSING IT HEAD ON AND MEETING WITH ANYONE AND EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO TALK TO US. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
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THANK YOU. IS THAT THE LAST PUBLIC COMMENT? THANK YOU ALL. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? THE MARTIN COUNTY FAIR GROUNDBREAKING IN INDIANTOWN IS SEPTEMBER 22ND AT 530. SO THE MARTIN COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS ARE BREAKING GROUND. SEPTEMBER 22ND AT 530. PLEASE COME OUT AND JOIN US THERE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL SITE TOWARD THE RIGHT NEXT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. WHAT'S THAT DATE AGAIN? SEPTEMBER 22ND AT 530. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE FAIRGROUND. YEAH.[NEXT REGULAR MEETING (ANNOUNCE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION)]
FINALLY. OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS SEPTEMBER THE 12TH. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH