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TO ORDER. MADAM CLERK, ROLL CALL PLEASE. MAYOR DEPAOLO HERE. VICE MAYOR WATERS BROWN. SHE'S ON ZOOM HERE. I'M HERE. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIAMS. PALMER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. SAWYER HERE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO OUR AUGUST 13TH INDIAN TOWN VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING. I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU TO SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES.
THE BATHROOMS ARE LOCATED AT THE EAST END OF THE CORRIDOR TO YOUR RIGHT. THE EXITS ARE AT EACH END OF THE CORRIDOR, CLEARLY MARKED WITH EXIT SIGNS. YOU'LL HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK TONIGHT. FIRST WILL BE DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION SEGMENT, WHEN YOU CAN SPEAK ON ANY ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. THE SECOND WILL BE DURING THE AGENDA DISCUSSION ITEM DISCUSSION. AT THIS TIME, YOU CAN COMMENT ON THAT ITEM. THERE'LL BE A SEGMENT PRIOR TO CLOSE FOR PEOPLE THAT CAME IN LATE THAT DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. SO YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES IN EACH SEGMENT. AND IF YOU WANT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD IN THE BACK AND HAND IT TO THE CLERK. THEY'LL LOCATED AT THE TABLE IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO STAND FOR OUR INVOCATION GIVEN BY LINDA NICKUM AND FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. WE BOW OUR HEADS. LORD, WE COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WITH OPEN MINDS AND OPEN HEARTS. HELP US TO LISTEN AS WELL AS SPEAK. WATCH OVER US.
HELP US ALL TO MAKE GOOD SOUND DECISIONS THAT WILL BENEFIT EVERYBODY IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE PRAY FOR YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR PEACE. AMEN. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS,
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OR PULLED ITEMS? YES, SIR. WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS A SCOPE OF WORK AND APPROVAL FOR WORK FOR THE EMPIRE COMPUTING AND CONSULTING. IT'S FOR THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE. RENOVATIONS BEING DONE AT VILLAGE HALL ON SUITE D, AND EACH OF YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT SCOPE OF WORK. AND THERE'S SOME ON THE BACK TABLE FOR THE PUBLIC. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY PROCLAMATIONS, AWARD OR SPECIAL PRESENTATION OTHER THAN THE ONE[PRESENTATION FROM SENIOR RESOURCE ASSOCIATION TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR MR. CHRIS STEPHENSON ON CHANGES TO THE TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGE PROGRAM DUE TO FUNDING CONSTRAINTS]
FROM THE SENIOR RESOURCE? YES. WITH US THIS EVENING, WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE SENIOR RESOURCE SERVICE TO TALK ABOUT SUNDAY SERVICES AND HOW THEY'VE BEEN MODIFIED, I THINK DUE TO FEDERAL FUNDING, IF I'M CORRECT. YEAH. GOOD EVENING. I'M KAREN DAIGLE, I'M THE CEO OF SENIOR RESOURCE ASSOCIATION AND MARTIN COUNTY TRANSIT. MARTIN COUNTY TRANSIT IS A DIVISION OF SENIOR RESOURCE ASSOCIATION. AND WITH ME TONIGHT IS CHRIS STEPHENSON, WHO'S THE TRANSIT DIRECTOR. AND WE WANTED TO COME AND TALK TO YOU TONIGHT ABOUT ACTUALLY, IT'S THE PARATRANSIT SYSTEM, THE COMMUNITY COACH AND WHICH WE OPERATE IN MARTIN COUNTY.OBVIOUSLY, YOU ALL KNOW US AS OPERATING THE INDIAN TOWN SHUTTLE, WHICH WE DO ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY FROM HERE INTO MARTIN, OUR STEWART. AND THEN ALSO WE ARE THE OPERATOR FOR THE MARTY SYSTEM. NOW, AS OF LAST JULY 1ST, WE TOOK OVER THE MARTY SYSTEM. SO ALL TRANSIT IN MARTIN COUNTY. SO I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO CHRIS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED FOR THE PARATRANSIT, THE COMMUNITY COACH SYSTEM. HI EVERYONE. LIKE KAREN SAID, MY NAME IS CHRIS STEPHENSON. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION AT MARTIN COUNTY TRANSIT, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE TDI PROGRAM HERE IN MARTIN COUNTY TONIGHT. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED PROGRAM, WHO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE ARE ELDERLY OR DISABLED OR LOW INCOME INCOME. AND THE CURRENT ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS THAT IS DECIDED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL BY A LOCAL COORDINATING BOARD IS THAT ELDERLY MEANS OVER 70 DISABLED IS THAT'S DETERMINED BY A DOCTOR'S FORM THAT HAS TO BE FILLED OUT FOR ANY APPLICANT OR AT OR BELOW 100% OF THE
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POVERTY LEVEL. SO THIS IS MARTIN COUNTY'S MOST VULNERABLE DEMOGRAPHIC OF PEOPLE THAT WE TRIP THROUGH THE TDI PROGRAM. YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD OF IT. IT'S CALLED MARTIN COMMUNITY COACH. THAT'S WHAT WE REFER TO THE TDI PROGRAM AS. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO UPDATE EVERYONE ON WAS THAT FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, WE HAD BEEN RECEIVING THREE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES THE TRIP AND EQUIPMENT GRANT, WHICH COMES FROM THE COMMISSION FOR TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED IN TALLAHASSEE. WE HAD BEEN GETTING AN INNOVATIVE SERVICE DEVELOPMENT GRANT ALSO FROM THE. THE COMMISSION FOR TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED AND THEN MARTIN COUNTY FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS HAS GIVEN US SOME LOCAL FUNDING. NOW, ON JUNE THE 29TH, TWO DAYS BEFORE THE NEW FISCAL YEAR STARTED, WE WERE MADE AWARE THAT THE INNOVATIVE SERVICE DEVELOPMENT GRANT DID NOT MAKE IT THROUGH THE STATE BUDGET. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WE HAD BEEN COUNTING ON. IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS. AND TWO DAYS BEFORE THE FISCAL YEAR STARTED, WE WERE MADE AWARE THAT IT DID NOT MAKE IT THROUGH THE THE, THE STATE BUDGET. AND SO, AS YOU CAN SEE ON OUR ON OUR SLIDE, OUR FUNDING GOT DRASTICALLY CUT FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THAT STARTED ON JULY 1ST. SO BECAUSE OF THAT LAST YEAR, WE PROVIDED 30,000 TRIPS TO THE TDI COMMUNITY. AND THIS YEAR WE'RE PROJECTING WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ABOUT 15,000. SO IT LITERALLY GOT CUT IN HALF.SO IT'S IT'S BEEN A DIRE SITUATION FOR THE TDI FOLKS IN MARTIN COUNTY FOR THE LAST FEW WEEKS. AND WE WANTED TO JUST GIVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE THE RIDERS ARE USING THE MARTIN COMMUNITY COACH TO GO. YOU CAN SEE 60% OF TDI RIDES ARE GOING TO MEDICAL DESTINATIONS, 30% ARE GOING TO GROCERY SHOPPING AND TAKING PEOPLE TO GET NUTRITIONAL SHOPPING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN THERE'S 10% THAT GOES TOWARDS EMPLOYMENT. AND OF THE 60% OF THE OF THE MEDICAL TRIPS, ABOUT 59% OF THAT WAS GOING TO DIALYSIS. SO THERE'S A REALLY STRONG NEED FOR DIALYSIS PATIENTS FOR TRANSPORTATION HERE IN MARTIN COUNTY. AND WE'LL TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT INDIANTOWN NUMBERS IN A FEW MINUTES. SO WHENEVER WE WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT THE ELIGIBILITY FOR TDI CLIENTS, THAT IS DECIDED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL BY THE MARTIN COUNTY TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED LOCAL COORDINATING BOARD. AND SO PREVIOUS TO JULY ARE THE ELIGIBILITY WAS 65 AND OLDER, 100% OF THE POVERTY LEVEL, AND YOU COULD USE THE TDI PROGRAM TO GO TO MEDICAL TRIPS, EDUCATIONAL, EMPLOYMENT, GROCERY SHOPPING, LIFE SUSTAINING TRIPS. AFTER AFTER WE HAD THIS VERY DRASTIC CUT IN FUNDING THAT OUR LCD MET IN JULY AND HAD TO CHANGE THE, THE THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT NOW IT'S 70 AND OLDER, 100% OF THE POVERTY LEVEL. AND THE TDI PROGRAM IS ONLY BEING USED FOR MEDICAL TRIPS AT THIS TIME. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE UPDATED EVERYONE ON THAT. AND THEN WE WANTED TO JUST UPDATE THE VILLAGE ON THAT $750,000 GRANT THAT WE LOST. WE WANTED TO SHOW THAT ABOUT 7% OF THAT WAS GOING TO INDIAN TOWN RESIDENTS FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS. SO THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT $52,500. AND THEN WHEN WE WHEN WE. BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE INDIAN TOWN RIDES AND WHERE THE THE TDI POPULATION IN INDIAN TOWN IS TAKING MARTIN COMMUNITY COACH TO GO, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM ARE USING THE SERVICE FOR MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS, SO 90% OF THE TRIPS IN INDIAN TOWN ARE FOR MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS, AND ABOUT 75% OF THOSE ARE FOR DIALYSIS. SO WE'RE WE'RE STILL ABLE TO PROVIDE THE TDI SERVICE FOR THE THE MOST VULNERABLE DEMOGRAPHIC OF INDIAN TOWN RESIDENTS. AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO TO UPDATE THE COUNCIL ON THAT. MAYOR DE PAULO WAS ON OUR LCP. SO HE HAS BEEN MADE AWARE OF ALL THIS FOR THE LAST FEW WEEKS. AND HE ASKED THAT WE COME AND JUST GIVE AN UPDATE ABOUT HOW IT WAS A VERY UNEXPECTED LOSS IN FUNDING. AND SO WE WE KNOW THAT THE THE VILLAGE MIGHT MIGHT HEAR ABOUT HOW WE HAD TO, TO SHIFT OUR, OUR ELIGIBILITY. SO NOW TDI CLIENTS CAN ONLY USE US FOR, FOR MEDICAL TRIPS. AND THEY, THEY CAN NO LONGER USE US FOR GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE OR GOING TO WORK OR GOING TO EDUCATION. SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN UNFORTUNATE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HAD TO DO IN ORDER TO MAKE THE THE NUMBERS WORK THIS YEAR. HOW DOES THE 65 TO 70 JUMP AFFECT THE PEOPLE WITH DIALYSIS? I MEAN, THAT'S I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU RAISED. I DO UNDERSTAND WHY, BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC. IT.
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THERE'S SOME MORE PEOPLE. BUT THOSE. IF YOU'RE ON DIALYSIS, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO RIDE THAT.RIGHT. SO IF IF SOMEONE IS ELIGIBLE JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR AGE, THAT WOULD BE WHAT CHANGES FROM 65 TO 70. BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ON DIALYSIS, THEY, THEY, THEY STILL CAN, RIGHT? THEY CAN STILL BE DEEMED ELIGIBLE BECAUSE OF, OF THEIR, IT WOULD BE UNDER THE. OKAY.
YEAH. OH, OKAY. 70 YEARS OR OKAY. OR OH, OKAY. AND IF, IF WE WANTED TO RESTORE 100% OF THE SERVICE LIKE IT WAS FOR INDIAN TOWN, IT WOULD COST ABOUT 58,000 525255 YEAH.
THAT'S THAT OTHER 10% THAT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT PROVIDING HOW IF WE WERE TO PROVIDE FUNDS, IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS A BIG POOL OF FUNDS. I MEAN, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE DEDICATED TO OUR RIDERS EASILY? WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF, OF RESTRICTING FUNDS TO A CERTAIN TERRITORY, CERTAIN AREA. SO IF YOU WERE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL. IT WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY FOR INDIAN TOWN RESIDENTS. OKAY. AND YOU SAY 90% OF OUR RESIDENTS USE YOU FOR WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS? HOW MANY RIDERS IS THAT? SO SO THE NUMBER OF RIDERS IN INDIAN TOWN, WHICH ONE? THAT ONE 7% OF OUR TRIPS AND OUR TRIPS ARE. HOW MANY. SO SO THAT ABOUT 1500015000 TOTAL TOTAL. SO 7% OF 15,000 IS. I WOULD HAVE TO GET A CALCULATOR. YEAH, ABOUT 1500. YEAH, ABOUT 1500 BETWEEN 12 AND 1500 PER YEAR. YES, MA'AM. OKAY, HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE. I NEED MY CALCULATOR. 15. AND SO IT WAS. THAT WAS FROM THE FULL AMOUNT. MA'AM, ARE YOU ABLE TO STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE? YEAH. SORRY. SORRY I DIDN'T. THE TOTAL NUMBER THAT WE'RE PROVIDING FOR THE 750 000. IT WAS ABOUT 15,000, 15,000.
RIGHT. OKAY. SO 15 LET'S JUST SAY 10% OF IT IS OURS. AND SO LET'S JUST SAY 1500 PEOPLE BECAUSE WE ARE GROWING AND THERE'S POSSIBLY MORE PEOPLE WOULD USE IT. 52,500 DIVIDED BY 1500 IS $35 A TRIP. THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. YES, MA'AM. YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. AND IF IT'S 15,000 PER YEAR THAT THEY NEED 15,000 DIVIDED BY, IS IT FAIRLY EQUAL TRIPS AMONGST THE YEAR. IT'S ABOUT 1200 TRIPS A YEAR. YES MA'AM. SORRY, I CALCULATED NOT.
SO WHILE SHE'S DOING THAT LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. SO YOU SAID RIGHT NOW THEY CAN ONLY GET MEDICAL. RIGHT. SO IF THEY IF YOU ALL HAD THE ADDITIONAL 52,000, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO RESTORE FULL SERVICE TO THE STORE WHEREVER THEY NEEDED TO GO? YEAH. WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IS GO BACK TO THE LCB AND HAVE THAT CAVEAT WRITTEN INTO THE PLAN, BECAUSE WE ARE DIRECTED FROM THE LOCAL COORDINATING BOARD. SO RIGHT NOW THE LOCAL COORDINATING BOARD HAS DIRECTED MARTIN COUNTY TRANSIT TO ONLY PROVIDE FOR FOR, FOR MEDICAL TRIPS. WE WOULD THEN WRITE IN THAT ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM INDIAN TOWN COULD BE USED FOR OTHER TRIPS. OKAY, I'M. THAT WORD COULD COULD BE IS SCARY TO ME. AND THE OTHER THING IS WHEN DID YOU ALL STOP SERVICES FOR FOR THE FOR THE RESIDENTS, JUST FOR MEDICAL. IT'S ONLY MEDICAL NOW OR THAT'S FORTHCOMING. SO THAT STARTED ON ON MONDAY, AUGUST, AUGUST THE 10TH. THEY KNOW ABOUT IT. YES. WE GAVE THEM TWO WEEKS. THEY GAVE THEM TIME. WELL, IT STARTED JULY 1ST. WE RAN FROM JULY 1ST UNTIL AUGUST OR JULY. SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS FROM FROM JULY 1ST UNTIL THE LCB MEETING ON THE 27TH OF JULY, WE HAD TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF TRIPS WE COULD PROVIDE EACH WEEK JUST TO MAKE THE MATH WORK. AND AFTER THE LCB MET ON THE 27TH, THEY SAID ONLY PROVIDE MEDICAL TRIPS. SO THEN WE SENT SOMETHING OUT TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR PASSENGERS TO LET THEM KNOW THAT STARTING AUGUST 10TH, WHICH WAS ON MONDAY. BUT MARTIN, COMMUNITY COACH, CAN
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ONLY BE USED FOR MEDICAL TRIPS. ANYBODY THAT WAS BOOKED FOR A MEDICAL TRIP FOR THOSE TWO WEEKS, OR A REGULAR TRIP, A NON-MEDICAL TRIP WE WE RECEIVE THEY RECEIVE THAT TRIP. SO THEY HAD AN ADVANCE NOTICE. LET ME THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION. I THINK YOU ALL WENT FOR YOU SAY SENIOR WHEN WHO MADE THE DETERMINATION THAT SENIOR STARTS AT 70 YEARS OLD THAT THAT WAS MADE BY THE LOCAL COORDINATING BOARD. WE WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM NUMBERS AS TO HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN CERTAIN AGE GROUPS THAT WE'VE TRIPPED PREVIOUSLY. SO THEY THEN HAD THE DISCUSSION AND MAYOR, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING TO IT, BECAUSE YOU WERE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, THAT'S WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MOVE IT UP. YEAH. OKAY. SO WHAT IF WE HAVE, I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE I THINK IT SHOULD BE LOWERED THAN 70. AND, AND WHAT IF WE HAVE RESIDENTS THAT'S THAT'S NOT NOWHERE THAT'S NOT NEAR THE AGE OF ELDERLY OR SENIOR. AND THEY NEED THE SERVICES AGAIN, IF THEY ARE DISABLED. OKAY. BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT. IT'S THE AGE, IT'S THE BEING DISADVANTAGED AND OR IT IS THE INCOME INCOME. OKAY, OKAY. NOW IN ORDER TO RESTORE SERVICE, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THIS AND I BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO BE THE LAST QUESTION.I'M GONNA GO $52,000 TO RESTORE SERVICES. RIGHT. AND YOU SAID YOU HAD SAID A WORD. COULD BE WHAT WAS THAT WORD THAT YOU USED? 52,000 WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED SERVICES FOR EDUCATION, EMPLOYMENT, GROCERY, ALL THE OTHER OTHER THAN MEDICAL. WHAT IS THE WHAT IS WHAT THEY NEED TO RESTORE MEDICAL TO KEEP THE MEDICAL GOING. THE MEDICAL IS ALREADY GOING, OKAY, SO WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS MONEY IN ADDITIONAL WOULD RESTORE. THE OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE CAN GET TO THEIR JOBS. YEAH.
THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VERBIAGE THAT WE'RE USING, THAT IT COULD NOT BE MISCONSTRUED OR SHOULD BE, COULD BE, WOULD BE, I WANTED TO BE. THERE YOU GO. I WANT IT TO BE SOLID. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THAT'S $4,375 A MONTH. AND. ABOUT $35 A RIDE.
HOW MANY PEOPLE DID GET DROPPED FROM THE. WELL, YOU SAID THEY NOW, IF THEY'VE GOT A DISABILITY, SO THEY'RE OKAY. THE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES ARE OKAY. SO IT'S JUST THE PEOPLE WHO WERE USING THE SERVICE BECAUSE THEY WERE ELDERLY AND MAYBE DIDN'T DRIVE.
AND I DO WANT TO MAKE SOMETHING. IF YOU DO THIS KIND OF A PROGRAM, IF IT'S NOT USED, WE DON'T BILL YOU. WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN WE CAN SET IT UP THAT ON A MONTHLY BASIS, WE CAN BILL THE TOWN AND THEN AND GET REIMBURSED THAT WAY. SO THAT SAY, SAY THAT YOU DID SAY YOU DID 50,000. WE HAVE A CAP OF 50,000. I WANT TO TALK TO OUR ACCOUNTANT. WELL, LET HER. OKAY.
BUT SO WE WOULD BE BILLING YOU ON A MONTHLY BASIS. WE GET REIMBURSED FROM YOU IF WE DON'T USE THE FULL 50,000 IN THE YEAR, THEN WE WOULDN'T BE. WE WOULDN'T. YOU WOULDN'T PAY IT.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE HANDING US OVER THE MONEY. OKAY? WE CAN WORK IT OUT THAT WAY. LET ME SEE HOW THAT WORKS. COME ON UP, MICHAEL. GOT THIS ONE. HOPEFULLY I'LL ECHO. YES. YES, MA'AM. WHAT CAN I. OKAY, SO SOUNDS LIKE A VITAL SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. IT MAY NOT BE FOR THOSE OF US SITTING IN HERE, BUT IT IS FOR THOSE OF US. THOSE OF THEM THAT ARE USING IT.
YEAH. AT $4,375 A MONTH. IS THIS THE TYPE OF SERVICE WE CAN PULL? CAN WE PULL THIS MONEY OUT OF THAT HALF CENT THAT WE GET, OR IS THAT A VALID USE? NO, THAT'S A NO. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S NOT FOR TRANSPORTATION. YEAH. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO LIKE SHE SAID. AND THEY COULD JUST BILL US FOR THE NUMBER OF RIDES. NOT NECESSARILY. YEAH. I GIVE THEM MONEY UP FRONT, BUT MAYBE BILL US FOR THE NUMBER OF. YEAH, WE DO HAVE SOME BUDGET CONTINGENCY IN THE TENTATIVE BUDGET FOR PUBLIC WORKS FOR ROAD, STREET AND DRAINAGE. AND WE WOULD, IF YOU APPROVED ADDITIONAL FUNDING HERE. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. WE WOULD JUST READJUST SOME CONTINGENCY TO THIS. YEAH, WE HAVE A HARD TIME WITH THAT THOUGH, BECAUSE WE NEED OUR STREET MONEY. I MEAN, IT'S BUT YEAH, LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU HOW WE GOT THERE BECAUSE YEAH, I HAVE I CHAIR THAT BOARD. YEAH. TELL US ABOUT IT. OKAY, SO I GET A CALL BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A BOARD MEETING SCHEDULED UNTIL I THINK SEPTEMBER. OKAY.
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YEAH. SO. SO WE SCHEDULED AN EMERGENCY MEETING BECAUSE OF THE LOSS OF FUNDS. AND WE LOOKED AT ALL THE NUMBERS AND WE LOOKED AT. WHAT WE HAD TO DO, WHAT WE DID BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO RUN OUT OF MONEY BECAUSE IF WE HADN'T DONE WHAT WE DID, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE FOR THE FULL YEAR. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE TO RAISE THE AGE FROM 65 TO 70 AND LIMIT IT TO MEDICAL TRIPS ONLY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE BUS SERVICE THAT'S STILL AVAILABLE. AND WE, WE AS A GROUP, WE ALL WERE ON THE MINDSET THAT, OKAY, THE MONEY'S NOT GOING TO COME. THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE IT BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT BIG DOLLARS TO PROVIDE THAT. FOR US, IT WASN'T THAT BAD. IT WAS ONLY $52,000. BUT WHERE ARE WE GOING TO TAKE IT FROM? YEAH. SO SOMETHING'S GOING TO SUFFER FOR SOMETHING ELSE. SO IF WE FIND THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING A PROBLEM, THEN WE CAN SIT DOWN AND FIGURE IT OUT. AND IF WE CAN PULL SOME MONEY, EVEN FOR HALF THE YEAR TO PULL HALF THE TRIPS, THEN THAT'S THE DISCUSSION THAT WE CAN HAVE AT A LATER DATE AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND TALK ABOUT IT AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET IT FUNDED. YEAH. SO BUT FOR THE TIME BEING, THE LEAST AMOUNT OF DAMAGE THAT'S BEEN DONE TO THE USERS IS BY DOING WHAT WE DID. SO AND, AND BEING ABLE TO KEEP THE PROGRAM GOING. SO I THINK GIVEN THE CLIMATE AND THE MONEY AND, AND WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE ROAD, EVEN IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE HARD. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET CREATIVE WITH IT. SO, SO. I THINK FOR RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST LET IT GO THE WAY IT IS AND, AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH THE MONEY, THEN WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH A MONTHLY BILLING OR A TRIP USE OR SOMETHING. ARE THEY ABLE, ARE THEY ALLOWED TO? I DON'T KNOW THE RULES ON OUR TRUST. ARE THEY ALLOWED TO ASK FOR MONEY FROM OUR TRUST, THAT TRUST FUND THAT WE GIVE TO PEOPLE? I'D RATHER SEE THAT THAN HAIR BRAIDING. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT'S TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE OF THE VILLAGE. SO WHY CAN'T WE LOOK AT APPROVING SOME OF THE TRUST? IT'S A PROGRAM YOU CAN HAVE. AND WE ARE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT. YEAH. I WAS PLANNING ON THAT. SOUNDS TO ME. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF. WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO GET GROCERIES OR GET TO WORK OR, OR GET TO MEDICAL STUFF, THESE PEOPLE AREN'T JOY RIDING THIS THING. THEY'RE THERE. IT'S NECESSARY.THANK YOU. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOSE THEIR JOBS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET TO WORK.
AND THEN HOW ARE THEY GOING TO PAY THEIR BILLS AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN? I THINK THIS IS VITAL. I THINK THIS MAY BE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE'VE EVER VOTED ON. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN APPROVE. I WE CAN'T TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE ROADS. WE'VE GOT TOO MANY PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW WITH THE ROADS. WE'VE GOT FLOODING AND ALL THESE THINGS WE'VE GOT TO DO. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD USE OF THE TRUST FUNDS. I'M DOING AN ITEM TO COME BACK TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING, SO I CAN ADD THAT TO THE ITEM SO YOU CAN DISCUSS IT. YES, AND MAYBE NOT THE FULL AMOUNT. MAYBE WE DO A PARTIAL AMOUNT LIKE MAYOR SAID, AND GET IT RUNNING UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND, RAISE OR WHATEVER ELSE IT IS WE NEED TO DO. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE CARING AND GIVING IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT MIGHT WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE US GET AT LEAST HALF OF THIS ACCOMPLISHED. YEAH, OKAY, I'LL ADD IT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT OUR DISCUSSION WAS. I HAD THE FEELING THAT THAT WE CAN GET GET IT FUNDED SOMEHOW. SO LET'S JUST REMEMBER THAT. LET'S JUST REMEMBER BEFORE WE START TALKING ABOUT TAKING TRUST FUND MONEY, THAT THERE, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR THE MONEY ALREADY. NOW, THE, THE, WHAT'S COMING UP THE FOLLOWING YEAR, THAT'S WHERE THAT SHOULD BE. BUT WHAT'S ALREADY DONE SHOULD, SHOULD NOT BE. PEOPLE SHOULDN'T NOT BE.
THAT TOOK THE TIME TO DO THE WORK, SHOULD NOT BE SAID. NO. WHAT IF THE PEOPLE WAIT A MINUTE. THE PEOPLE WHO THAT WE'VE SAID YES. WELL, ONCE THEY COME THROUGH HERE, THEY HAVE TO COME TO THE COUNCIL. AND ONCE THEY SAID YES, THEN. OR IF THE PERSON DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE BECAUSE THEIR PROGRAM HAS HAS FINISHED, YOU KNOW, LET'S I JUST DON'T WANT US TO BE. YES, WE WANT WE WANT THE SERVICES. YES WE DO, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT THOSE PEOPLE THAT APPLIED FOR THAT TRUST FUND MONEY TO BE LIKE, OKAY, WELL, WE DON'T WANT HAIR BRAIDING, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT THIS. AND THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT. WE DON'T WANT TO BE THAT CARELESS TO SAY
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STUFF LIKE THAT. WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE TREATED RIGHT. LET'S FOLLOW THE PROCESS AND MOVE, MOVE LIKE THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE DISCUSSION AND YOUR YOUR COMMENTS. WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. I JUST DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I KNOW A NEIGHBOR WHO WRITES SHE'S ON DIALYSIS AND SHE TAKES ADVANTAGE OF IT. AND I DO REALIZE THAT WE DO HAVE RESIDENTS THAT DO HAVE THE NEED.BEING ON DIALYSIS IS VERY HARD ON THE BODY. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, YOU KNOW, AND THANK YOU TO THE BOARD FOR FIGURING OUT HOW WE CAN GET THE DIALYSIS PATIENTS, BECAUSE IF THEY MISS A DAY OF DIALYSIS, IT'S THE BODY DOESN'T WORK LIKE A NORMAL BODY DOES. AND THE INTERESTING THING WITH THAT IS THAT THE DIALYSIS PATIENTS, WE ARE TRIPPING THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE MEDICAL, BUT THEY CAN'T GO AND GET GROCERIES OR ANYTHING ELSE NOW. SO YEAH, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING. WE'LL WORK ON THAT. THANK YOU. WE WILL WORK ON IT. OKAY. ALL
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RIGHT. ANY WE GOT PUBLIC COMMENTS. YES, SIR. MISS LINDA NIGAM. WELCOME MISS NIGAM. GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, LONDON NIGAM. THE PHRASE SOMETHING OLD, SOMETHING NEW COMES TO MY MIND WITH MY MESSAGE TONIGHT. I'VE COME BEFORE YOU MANY TIMES IN THE PAST YEARS ABOUT PUTTING IN AN EMERGENCY WARNING SYSTEM. TONIGHT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. MY IMPETUS FOR BRINGING THIS UP NOW. THE UNUSUAL WEATHER THAT'S BEING EXPERIENCED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY IS GOING TO BE MORE COMMON THAN EVER. AND IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE UP IN THE MIDWEST OR OUT IN CALIFORNIA OR IN TEXAS. WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR SHARE SOONER OR LATER. BUT MY HOMETOWN IN ILLINOIS, ABOUT 30 MILES SOUTH OF CHICAGO, WAS HIT TWICE IN THE PAST TWO WEEKS WITH SEVERE WEATHER, THE KIND THAT MAKES THAT 5:00 NEWS. TWO WEEKS AGO, FIVE CONFIRMED TORNADOES WITHIN A 20 MILE RADIUS OF. OF THAT TOWN. MONI HAD NO TORNADO, BUT STRAIGHT LINE WINDS OF 80 TO 100 MILES AN HOUR, WHICH WAS DESCRIBED AS A TORNADO SITTING OVERHEAD FOR 15 MINUTES JUST AS THE LAST STREETS WERE BEING CLEARED AND POWER RESTORED THIS WEEK, THEY GOT STRUCK WITH A DERECHO SYSTEM. MORE STRAIGHT LINE WINDS TOOK DOWN MORE TREES AND POWER LINES. AGAIN, THERE WERE NO DEATHS. THEY DID HAVE WARNING SIRENS. ONE BLAST OF THE SIREN MEANS BE AWARE WEATHER THREATENING TWO BLASTS MEANS TAKE COVER NOW. ASK QUESTIONS LATER. THEY'VE HAD TO USE THEIR WARNING SYSTEM AT LEAST 12 TIMES THIS YEAR. MY COUSIN REPORTED THAT THEY'VE.ILLINOIS HAS ALREADY HAD 193 TORNADOES SO FAR THIS YEAR, WHICH BEATS THE RECORD NUMBER OF TORNADOES BACK IN 2024 OF 142. SO THERE IT'S IT'S RUNNING WILD UP THERE. THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST THE INSTALLATION OF SUCH A SYSTEM HERE, YOU GET WARNINGS ON YOUR PHONE, YOUR RADIO, YOUR TV, WHICH YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE TURNED ON OR PAY ATTENTION TO. SECOND, THE COST I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE FOR YOUR SERIOUS CONSIDERATION THE FOLLOWING. NUMBER ONE INSTALLATION OF SUCH A SYSTEM WOULD QUALIFY AS INFRASTRUCTURE IS, I BELIEVE, THEREBY MAKING IT ELIGIBLE TO USE THE HALF CENT SALES TAX MONEY. NUMBER TWO, SINCE THIS IS OBVIOUSLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL INDIAN TOWN RESIDENTS. MAY I FINISH? GO AHEAD. PERHAPS TRUST FUND INTEREST FUNDS COULD BE THAT ARE BEING SET ASIDE COULD BE UTILIZED FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT SYSTEM. NUMBER THREE, THAT INDIAN TOWN ESTABLISH ITS OWN LOCAL CITIZENS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM PROVIDE TRAINING FOR RESPONSE TO EMERGENCIES TO ASSIST OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, PROVIDE CPR FIRST AID CLASSES, ESTABLISH A HAM RADIO PROGRAM. IN THE EVENT
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THAT INDIAN TOWN IS CUT OFF FROM COUNTY SERVICES, WE SHOULD KNOW HOW TO HANDLE WHATEVER EMERGENCIES ARISE. ALSO, IN THE EVENT THAT A PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION RESULTS IN LESS COUNTY SERVICES, WE CAN STILL DO WHATEVER IS NECESSARY TO KEEP OUR RESIDENTS SAFE AND SOUND. I'M ASKING THAT SOME SERIOUS THINKING AND EVEN MORE SERIOUS RESEARCH BE DONE. IF EVEN A FEW MINUTES OF WARNING MEANS SAVING A LIFE, THEN WE ARE BOUND BY COMMON SENSE TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO ACCOMPLISH THIS. TONIGHT YOU ARE DECIDING ON SPENDING NEARLY $150,000 ON VARIOUS ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA. IF WE CAN AFFORD TO RENOVATE OFFICES, BUY EMPTY LOTS, THEN WE CAN AFFORD TO PUT MONEY INTO PROGRAMS THAT ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE SAFETY AND WELFARE OF OUR CITIZENS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. TIM MULLIN. HI. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS TIM MULLIN. I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE FROM THE VILLAGE TO EXPLAIN WHY WE'VE BEEN UNABLE TO GET A MEANINGFUL ASSISTANCE WITH WHAT SHOULD BE A RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD PLOT VACATION. THIS INVOLVES A 1939 PLAT OF A PROPERTY THAT HAS REMAINED ESSENTIALLY UNDEVELOPED FOR MORE THAN 85 YEARS. WE BEGAN SEEKING VILLAGE GUIDANCE ON THIS MATTER ON APRIL 1ST, AND I WANT TO MAKE ONE THING, ONE FACT VERY CLEAR TONIGHT, BECAUSE THERE APPEARS TO BE SOME CONFUSION ABOUT WHOSE REQUEST THIS IS. THIS IS RED PENS RANCH, THE HALES PROPERTY, THE OWNER OF RED PENS RANCH, AND I SIGNED A NOTARIZED AUTHORIZATION EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZING ME TO ACT ON BEHALF OF RED PENS RANCH AND ASSIST THE OWNER IN GETTING THIS PLAT VACATED. THAT DOCUMENT WAS PROVIDED TO VILLAGE ATTORNEY WADE VOSS MONTHS AGO. I, I, SO I AM NOT STANDING HERE ASKING THE VILLAGE TO PROCESS SOME PLAT VACATION THAT I INDEPENDENTLY DECIDED I WANTED.I AM ACTING WITH WRITTEN NOTICE NOTARIZED AUTHORIZATION OF THE PROPERTY OWNER TO ASSIST RED PENS RANCH. WITH THIS REQUEST, THE VILLAGE HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT IT CAN PROCESS EXTRAORDINARILY SIGNIFICANT LAND USE MATTERS. IT AMENDED APPROXIMATELY 5700 ACRES IN A MATTER OF MONTHS. YET MORE THAN FOUR MONTHS AFTER OUR APRIL 1ST REQUEST FOR GUIDANCE, I STILL CANNOT SEEM TO GET A CLEAR DIRECTION ON HOW TO MOVE THIS WHOLE PLAT VACATION FORWARD.
NOW THINGS HAVE BECOME EVEN MORE CONCERNING. LAST WEEK, A MEMBER OF THE VILLAGE OWNED PZAB, SCOTT WATSON PUBLICLY STATED ON SOCIAL MEDIA. APPARENTLY, THE VILLAGE DOES NOT WANT TO DO WHAT WAS REQUESTED ON APRIL 1ST. LETTER SEEKING GUIDANCE ON PLAT VACATION. MY QUESTION IS WHY WOULD HE BELIEVE THAT? WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? AT THE SAME TIME, MR. WATSON APPEARS TO OBTAIN VILLAGE RELATED DOCUMENTS CONCERNING THIS MATTER. TODAY, I WAS MADE AWARE THAT THE VILLAGE CLERK STATED THAT AT LEAST ONE DOCUMENT SCOTT POSTED WAS NOT EVEN IN HER POSSESSION. IF I LOOK UPSET, I AM. THERE'S MORE TO THIS. MY WIFE'S GOING TO TURN IN HER GRAVE, BUT I'M GOING TO STAY ON. Q ALL RIGHT, SO I THINK THE PUBLIC DESERVES SOME VERY SIMPLE ANSWERS. WHY HAS THIS PLOT VACATION STALLED NOW, WHY CAN OUR ATTORNEY NOT GET CLEAR GUIDANCE FROM THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY? MY TIME IS UP, BUT I AM NOT DONE. LAWRENCE LITTLE. WELL, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LAWRENCE LITTLE. I AM FROM THE JUPITER ELKS LODGE AND I'M HERE WITH SEAN MAGUIRE, WHO IS ALSO AN ELDER FROM THE WEST PALM BEACH LODGE. YOU HAVE BEEN APPROACHED AND HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH LEONARD DILORENZO IN THE PAST ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF OPENING A LODGE OR HAVING AN INDIAN TOWN HOME LODGE HERE IN THIS TOWN, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT. WE AS OUR GROUP OF
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LODGES, WHICH IS JUPITER, WEST PALM BEACH AND CLEWISTON HAVE PUT INTO PLACE OUR CHARITABLE EFFORTS, AND WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN WORKING AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH CLEWISTON TO START PROVIDING FOR THE COMMUNITY. THIS BEGINS THIS THURSDAY. WE ARE WORKING WITH NARITA STEEL AT THE PARENT COMMUNITY CENTER, AND WE WILL BE DOING A PROVISIONING FOR CHILDREN OF ALL SCHOOL AGES AND PROVIDING THEM WITH BACKPACKS AND SCHOOL SUPPLIES AND SOME FOOD AS WELL.AND THAT'S JUST TO BEGIN THE PROCESS. WE'RE BASICALLY THE MESSAGES. WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED. WE ARE FOCUSED ON CHILDREN, FAMILIES, MILITARY VETERANS, AND WE ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THE INDIAN TOWN COMMUNITY FROM NOW ON, AND WE WOULD LIKE AS MUCH INPUT AS WE CAN FROM YOU IN THE FUTURE. AND I JUST WANTED TO STOP BY AND SAY HI. AND WE'RE HERE AND WE'RE GETTING STARTED TO HELP OUT. DO YOU HAVE A LOCATION IN INDIAN TOWN THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT OR. WE ARE WE ARE LOOKING AND WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT ARE SCOUTING AROUND LOOKING FOR LOCATIONS. BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT WHILE LOCATION IS IMPORTANT, A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE BECOMING TOGETHER AND WANT TO PARTICIPATE IS IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT. AND IN ORDER FOR THEM TO DO THAT, THEY NEED TO KNOW WHO WE ARE AND HOW WE OPERATE AND WHAT, WHAT WHAT DRIVES US INTO THE COMMUNITY. MEMBERS FROM JUPITER HAVE BEEN HERE FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, PARTICIPATING WITH THE PARENT COMMUNITY CENTER TO PROVIDE FOOD SERVICES WEEKLY. AND MAYBE YOU KNOW ABOUT IT, MAYBE YOU DON'T, BUT THOSE ARE ELKS, AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BE AS DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN. THANK YOU. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE A CONTACT INFO FOR YOURSELF, SIR? I WOULD LOVE TO HELP. I AM A, I WILL AND I WILL BE IN TOUCH AT THE COMMUNITY MEMBER. I BELIEVE I HAVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER. YEAH, I WILL BE THERE THURSDAY. OH, GOOD. OKAY.
LOOKING FORWARD TO MEETING ALL OF YOU. BUT WELCOME TO INDIANTOWN. WE SHOULD HAVE WE SHOULD BE ABOUT SIX OF US APPROXIMATELY ON THURSDAY MORNING. AND AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HANDING OUT. I'VE GOT I'VE GOT 24 KITS FOR EACH AGE GROUP AND WHATEVER ELSE WE COME UP WITH OVER THE NEXT NEXT WEEK, ONE OF THE THINGS I COULD HELP HELP. EXCUSE ME, I REQUEST HELP WITH IS THE BEST AND MOST FREQUENT GROCERY SHOPPING LOCATION IN TOWN. I UNDERSTAND THAT KEY FOODS JUST TOOK OVER ONE OF THE THAT'S IT KEY FOODS IS IT PRETTY MUCH OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU CHLOE. SEE YOU. PARKER. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS CHLOE. SEE YOU. I'M THE CEO OF THE ECONOMIC COUNCIL OF INDIAN TOWN.
AND I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU GUYS JUST A COUPLE UPDATES. SO A REALLY EXCITING ONE IS THE ECI IS LAUNCHING THE YOUTH ATHLETICS FOUNDATION OF INDIAN TOWN YAFIE. SO WE'VE HAD THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY NIPPING AT THE BIT TO GET SOME PRIVATE DOLLARS INFUSED INTO WHAT PARKS AND REC IS ALREADY WORKING ON. WE HAVE YOU GUYS KNOW THIS COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY. WE HAVE FIELDS, WE HAVE MORE SPACE FOR MORE THINGS, AND WE NEED TO GET SOME TLC INTO THOSE FIELDS SO THAT WE CAN GET YOUTH ATHLETICS OFF THE GROUND. I'M REALLY EXCITED TO TO SEE THINGS LIKE BASEBALL, SOCCER, SOFTBALL, BASKETBALL BEING PLAYED BY ALL OF THE YOUTH. WE'RE GOING TO USE YAFIE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT GROUPS LIKE ISSA AND ORGANIZED SPORTS TO GET OUR COACHES TRAINED UP AND TO HAVE AN ORGANIZED GROUP. I ENVISION IN A YEAR, YOU SEE SOME KIDS OUT THERE WITH EQUIPMENT AND JERSEYS, AND YOU GO INTO YOUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE FRAME PHOTO OF THE TEAM THAT IS SPONSORED BY THAT BUSINESS. AND I GOT A LITTLE EMOTIONAL WATCHING THE WORLD CUP BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, HOW COOL TO THINK THAT LIKE, INDIAN TOWN COULD BE THE PLACE OF ONE OF THE NEXT BIG ATHLETIC STARS. THIS IS THE FOUNDATION OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT'S ONE OF OUR BIG PILLARS AT ECI. SO WE'RE, WE'RE LAUNCHING IT AND GETTING IT STARTED. AND I HOPE TO GIVE YOU GUYS ANOTHER UPDATE SOON ON THIS. ANOTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS PART OF H'S ROLE IS
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UNDERSTANDING INDIAN TOWNS BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC HISTORY. AND IN OUR RESEARCH, I WANTED TO BRING TO THE COUNCIL SOMETHING THAT I FOUND. AND IN 2021, I FOUND A LETTER TITLED PROJECT BUMBLEBEE. AND THIS LETTER WAS FROM THE 2021 VILLAGE ADMINISTRATION AT THE TIME. AND IT WAS WELCOMING A DATA CENTER AND ENCOURAGING THE DEVELOPER TO CONSIDER FLORIDA COMMERCE PARK IN INDIAN TOWN SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FUTURE HOME. INSIDE THIS LETTER, IT OUTLINED INCENTIVES AND SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT. SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS WAS FROM 2001 AND THIS WAS SUPPORTED BY THE THEN COUNCIL. SO WE HAD THE THEN MAYOR, JANET HERNANDEZ, THEN VICE MAYOR JACKIE GARRETT CLARKE, AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER STONE DOWLING AND GIBBS THOMAS. SO THE ROLE OF THE ECI, IT'S NOT TO TAKE A SIDE ON ANY SPECIFIC PROJECT, BUT IT'S TO CONNECT THE DOTS BETWEEN WHAT THE VILLAGE HAS HISTORICALLY PROMOTED AND WHAT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS HEADING INTO. AND THE REASON FOR THIS IS SO THAT OUR COUNCIL AND OUR COMMUNITY CAN HAVE A FULL PICTURE AS WE DECIDE WHERE WE'RE GOING. SO WITH THAT, I LOOK FORWARD TO FUTURE UPDATES TO ON ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS AND INCENTIVES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON AS A BUSINESS COMMUNITY. AND I THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME. OH DON'T LEAVE. YES. HOW YOU DOING? I'M DOING WELL. ALL RIGHT. I'M JUST CURIOUS. YOU SAID THAT YOU GUYS ARE SPONSORING PROVIDING FUNDING FOR YAF, THE THE ECONOMIC COUNCIL, NOT SPECIFICALLY. WE ARE PART OF THE FOUNDATION. SO WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE FOUNDATION. WE ARE RALLYING OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO PUT MONEY INTO THAT FOUNDATION TO SUPPORT THE YOUTH ATHLETICS. WHO'S OVER THAT FOUNDATION, WHO'S OVER AT THE FOUNDATION? IT'S A GROUP OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS HOLDING IT. THE ATHLETIC GROUP, THE ATHLETIC GROUP. YEAH. THE ONE. OH, YEAH. YES. OH, IT'S A NONPROFIT STARTED BY OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. OKAY. WE HAVE WE HAVE HEIDI DOVE. OKAY.SHE, THERE'S A, THERE'S A FOOTBALL TEAM HERE. YEAH. THAT ARE THEY PART ARE YOU ALL GOING TO SUPPORT THEM AS WELL? WE PLAN TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE WORKED PRETTY HARD THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS TO TO KEEP THE COMMUNICATION GOING. THIS ISN'T A GROUP THAT WANTS TO SUPPORT ONE PARTICULAR THING. IT'S NOT A PARTIZAN THING. IT'S WHOEVER IS OUT THERE GRASSROOTS GETTING IT DONE. WE'RE READY TO GO. WE WANT TO SEE THESE TEAMS BEING SUPPORTED. AND THE REASON WHY I ASKED YOU THAT, BECAUSE THAT GROUP HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR YEARS. YES. AND AND I JUST FIND IT ODD BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE BUSINESS PEOPLE I APPROACHED FOR FUNDING FOR THAT PARTICULAR GROUP AND ONLY A FEW PEOPLE WAS WE WERE ABLE TO RAISE $3,500 FOR THAT GROUP.
BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST ODD TO ME THAT WE HAVE YAF, BUT WE YOU, YOU MENTIONED YAF, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR THAT PARTICULAR GROUP WHERE THAT THEY WOULD BE SUPPORTED. I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WANT TO SUPPORT EVERYBODY, BUT THEY WASN'T LISTED. AND THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME BECAUSE WE'RE SENDING OUT A MESSAGE THAT WE ARE SUPPORT THEM THIS WHO YOU KNOW, YAF WHO'S JUST GETTING STARTED WHEN STEVE COACH STEVE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR OVER TEN YEARS AND BEGGING FOR MONEY AND ONLY BEEN ABLE TO SECURE $3,500 AND THEY IN, HEIDI DOVE IS OVER THAT GROUP. AND THEY AND SHE AND SHE HAS ROOTS HERE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW. AND I HOPE I AIN'T TELLING HER BUSINESS, BUT SHE'S VERY SUCCESSFUL IN OKEECHOBEE. SHE HAS A WHOLE GYM AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY PUSHED IN AND HELP. AND I KNOW HERE THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY SAY WE WANT DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT WHEN THE RUBBER HIT THE ROAD, THE IT'S THE HELP IS NOT THERE. AND SO THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME. I DON'T WANT THEM LEFT OUT. I WANT I WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE INCLUDED. I WANT TO HEAR THE UPDATE THAT YOU. I'LL GIVE YOU HEIDI'S PHONE NUMBER OR WHATEVER, BUT I DON'T WANT THEM LEFT OUT BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN. HEIDI HAS BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING THESE BOYS, SO PLEASE DON'T LEAVE THEM OUT. SO THIS IS, I WOULD SAY, ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS I CAME HERE TODAY IS I WANT TO BE IN THE DIALOG OF IT. I WANT TO BE ON THE GROUND GRASSROOTS. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. THAT'S WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS. SO EXACTLY. I WELCOME THAT FEEDBACK SO WE CAN HAVE ME AS A PERSON AND WE HAVE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AS WELL WHO'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS TO BE ABLE TO, TO BRIDGE THOSE GAPS. OKAY. THAT'S I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET HER PHONE NUMBER TODAY. OKAY, PERFECT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. EDIFICATION OF THOSE ONLINE. AND FOR THOSE THAT WHAT, TELL ME WHAT YAF STANDS FOR, PLEASE. IT'S THE YOUTH ATHLETIC FOUNDATION OF INDIAN TOWN, AND IT'S A
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NONPROFIT THAT'S GOING TO HELP BE A VEHICLE FOR PRIVATE FUNDING INTO THESE YOUTH ATHLETIC ORGANIZATIONS. IS THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE BARBARA HAS BEEN WORKING ON? YEAH, IT'S SEPARATE FROM THAT. YEAH. WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU IS THAT THIS FOUNDATION WOULD BE A RESOURCE TO HELP PARTNER WITH AN ORGANIZATION LIKE BARBARA'S AND PROVIDE SOME FUNDING. SO, SO YAF IS NOT JUST LIKE, IT'S NOT BARBARA'S THING. IT'S AN UMBRELLA GROUP THAT'S GOING TO RAISE MONEY FOR. YES, MISS DOVE AND. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT AND JUST. AND ANYBODY THAT'S WATCHING YOU WANT TO KNOW, I JUST TEXT HEIDI BECAUSE I'M BEING VERY TRANSPARENT. I JUST TEXT HER AND ASK HER, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE GROUP? AND IT'S INDIAN TOWN COMMUNITY ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE MY PHONE, HERE IT IS. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S WHO I JUST TEXT TO FIND OUT. THE NAME IS INDIAN TOWN COMMUNITY ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION. AND LET ME GIVE YOU HER NUMBER RIGHT NOW. YES.DON'T GIVE IT TO HER. OKAY? OKAY. NOT ON THE CAMERA. OKAY. ALRIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. DON'T BE LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT, RHONDA. OKAY, ALRIGHT. I JUST I, AND I JUST WANT TO I, MY WHOLE CONCERN IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRANSPARENT AND THAT WHATEVER INFORMATION I HAVE THAT I SHARE, THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING. AND I'VE BEEN IN THE ROLE FOR, I BELIEVE 3 OR 4 MONTHS NOW, WHICH I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY BEEN 3 OR 4 MONTHS, BUT I'VE BEEN IN THE ROLE. AND RIGHT WHEN I STARTED MY FIRST DAY, I CALLED Y'ALL AND I LEFT A MESSAGE FOR SOME OF YOU. AND I HAD REALLY EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS TO, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE MY CONTACT INFORMATION. AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN. WE'VE HAD SECTIONS OF THE COMMUNITY ALL TRYING TO START THINGS UP, ALL TRYING TO DO THINGS. THE H'S ROLE IS TAKING THAT THAT BUSINESS DIVIDEND AND TRYING TO UNIFY THE VOICE SO THAT WHEN WE COME TO TALK TO YOU, ALL IT CAN FUNNEL THROUGH ME. SO WE'RE WE'RE COMMUNICATING THAT. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. YES. SO THIS LETTER THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS THAT IN RESPONSE TO SOMETHING OR. YES. WHAT WAS THE CONTEXT OF THE LETTER? I WAS LOOKING THROUGH PUBLIC RECORDS, AND I LOCATED THAT BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO SITUATE MYSELF AS THE CEO OF ECI TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE VILLAGE HAS BEEN WORKING ON AND WHERE WE'RE GOING, AND THEN ALSO WHAT MY STAKEHOLDERS WANT TO SEE, NOT JUST INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THE OVERALL VIBE OF INDIAN TOWN. AND I FOUND THIS LETTER, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF DATA CENTERS. AND YES, IT SEEMS TO BE THE NEW TOPIC OF OF CHOICE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, TO BE HONEST. BUT I WANTED TO PUT CONTEXT THAT IN 2021, FLORIDA COMMERCE WAS HOSTING THIS PROJECT. BUMBLEBEE AND INDIAN TOWN APPLIED TO IT. THEY SAID, COME ON OVER HERE. WE WILL WELCOME YOU WITH INCENTIVES.
AND SO I JUST THINK CONTEXTUALLY THAT IS INTERESTING INFORMATION OF THE THINGS THAT INDIAN TOWN HAS HISTORICALLY SUPPORTED, WHICH IS BUSINESS. IT'S ADDITIONAL REVENUE SO THAT WE CAN PLEASE FUNNEL THESE ADDITIONAL FUNDS INTO THE THINGS THAT WE NEED, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER FOR OUR CITIZENS, SPORTS, TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO IT WAS SET UP, AS I UNDERSTOOD IT, AS A RFP REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FROM VARIOUS COMMUNITIES THAT MET CERTAIN CRITERIA FIBER, ELECTRICITY, ETC. THAT WOULD BE A PRIME AREA TO LOCATE A DATA CENTER. AND SO THE PLANNING DIRECTOR AT THE TIME, UNDER THE PRIOR COUNCIL, COUNCIL SENT THIS LETTER SAYING, YES, WE WOULD BE. IN FACT, OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE STRUCTURED IN SUCH A WAY TO ENTICE SUCH A PROJECT. SO I'M JUST I'M SORRY IF I'M MAYOR. I DON'T WANT TO CUT YOU OFF. NO, IT'S JUST IT'S JUST MIND BLOWING THAT THE THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE SAYING, NO WAY. AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT, THAT THAT APPROVED WITH THE LDR CHANGE BACK THEN THAT'S WHEN THE ELDERS WERE BEING ADOPTED. OKAY. SO THEY WERE ADOPTED TO BE ABLE TO FIT IN THAT LETTER. I REMEMBER WHEN THE ELDERS FINALLY GOT ADOPTED IN 2020, 2021. YEAH. YES, YES. OKAY. YEAH. LIKE I SAID, IT WAS RIGHT THEN. RIGHT. OKAY. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE. I DON'T I, WHAT I THINK IS THAT WORD DATA CENTER. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALLY REALIZE WHAT THAT ENTAILED. AND, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, YOU KNOW, THE THEN VILLAGE MANAGER, YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS, I DON'T REALLY THINK THEY UNDERSTOOD THE MAGNITUDE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS, NOT TRYING TO DEFEND ANYBODY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE I SAW THAT TOO. AND I'M LIKE, DID THEY DID THEY UNDERSTAND? AND I
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DON'T THINK THINGS CAME INTO AWARENESS UNTIL PEOPLE START UNCOVERING STUFF. SO THAT'S BUT I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE IT WAS DEFINITELY PUT OUT THERE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU ALL. MISS SHEILA ROSARIO. WELCOME. FOR THE RECORD, ROSARIO. OKAY, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANK YOU, MISS BERNSTEIN PALMER, FOR ELECTING ME OR CHOOSING ME FOR THE BOARD. I APPRECIATE THAT, I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT'S ONE I'VE BEEN BROKEN. SO SORRY. I'VE BEEN MIA. OKAY. I HAD SOME THINGS WRITTEN DOWN. I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT. I'VE BEEN ASKED MULTIPLE TIMES TO SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT WE CAN SPEAK WITH THE SHERIFFS AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH, FOR THEM TO COME IN AND HAVE NUMBERS WHEN IT COMES FROM. AND THEY CAME ONCE AND THEN THEY HAVE. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THEM. WE'VE SEEN THEM IN THE STREETS, WHICH MATTERS. BUT THAT DOES MATTER. BUT AN UPDATE WOULD BE GREAT.AND I'M ONLY ASKING THAT BECAUSE WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH TERRA LAGO LIKE IT'S THEIR PERSONAL RACETRACK. SO THAT AND OR IF WE CAN SOMEHOW FIGURE OUT WHO OUR SHERIFF THAT GOES THROUGH THAT AREA FOR NIGHT AND AFTERNOON, OR A CONTACT PERSON, THAT WOULD BE EVEN BETTER. BESIDES THAT, NOW I HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER QUESTIONS BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHEN WE HAVE NEW AS INDIAN TOWN GROWS, WE HAVE NEW PEOPLE COMING IN HERE.
SO HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE INFORMATION AS A COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ASK THEM MORE QUESTIONS AS THEY'RE COMING IN? AS YOU GUYS KNOW, I RUN MY FACEBOOK TERRA LAGO INFORMATION GROUP. IT'S NOT I'M NOT PERFECT. I ASK YOU GUYS TO CORRECT ME AS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR, YOU GUYS CORRECT ME WHEN I'M WRONG. I EVEN RECEIVED MESSAGES AND I'M LIKE, OOPS, LET ME DELETE THAT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THAT GROUP. SO THE QUESTION IS, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A YOUTUBE CHANNEL OR A FACEBOOK PAGE? THE SAME THING I SAW THAT YOU GUYS REQUESTED TO JOIN THE GROUP TODAY FOR THE LODGE, WHICH NOW I KNOW WHY, BUT THESE ARE THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE THIS. BUT WE'RE HERE, CITY COUNCIL. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. SO HOW CAN WE HAVE THEIR INFORMATION BE PUT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY? WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S A COMPLETELY. LINDA, AMAZING PRESENTATION FOR THE REQUEST. AND I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT. HONESTLY. THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON RIGHT NOW. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I SPOKE JUST IN CASE THIS MEETING WENT TOO LONG AND MY BACK HURT AND I NEEDED TO LEAVE. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU MAYOR. THAT'S IT.
MAYOR. OKAY. THAT'S IT. YES, SIR. OKAY. HAVE ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS? NO. OKAY. COMMENTS BY
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VILLAGE COUNCIL. OKAY. GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. DO WE HAVE A VILLAGE HALL UPDATE? ARE WE PROJECTED TO MOVE BACK THERE AT THE END OF THIS MONTH? OUR PLAN WAS TO STAY IN THIS BUILDING THROUGH AUGUST AND GET US MOVED IN. SO WE'RE FOCUSING AT THE END OF AUGUST. AS FAR AS GETTING STUFF MOVED BACK OVER THERE. HOW'S IT LOOKING? IT LOOKS IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD. SOME OF THEM WENT OVER THERE EARLIER. WE'VE HAD THE A V GUY IN THERE AND WE'VE GOT YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT SOME WORK TO DO. THERE'S SOME STUFF ON BACK ORDER, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO STILL PROCEED. AND MY NEXT THING IS SEMINOLE DRIVE UPDATE THAT PROJECT THEY'RE HOPING TO HAVE DONE BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER. I WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO THE PUBLIC UTILITIES, BECAUSE FRIDAY WEATHER JUST DOWNPOUR. AND I SAW THEM WORKING THE LATE HOURS AND I, I APPLAUD THEM BECAUSE IT'S FRIDAY AND THEY'RE OUT THERE WITH PRP. THEY WERE OUT THERE TRYING TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE OUT THERE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO PRP AND OUR AND OUR. YEAH, WORKERS, THEY WANT TO GET IT DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S A GRANT FUNDED PROJECT AND THEY HAVE CERTAIN TIMELINES. YEAH. AND I'M HEARING THE RESIDENTS, LIKE THEY WERE ALSO OUT, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S PART OF PROGRESS.YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T FIX THE ROAD AND NOT INCONVENIENCE PEOPLE. SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE. I AGREE WITH YOU. I MEAN, BECAUSE WHEN I GO AROUND THE CIRCLE, I EVEN WANT TO GET RID OF THAT ONE DIP.
BUT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? I MEAN, I MEAN, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN WHY THAT DIP IS THERE. THEY'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT AFTER. YEAH. WE HAVE A PROJECT FOR ALL OF OSCEOLA, AND I WOULD LOVE TO STRAIGHT OUT THAT INTERSECTION ON THE EDGE OF.
BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE EITHER THE GROCERY STORE OR THE SCHOOL TO GIVE US PROPERTY. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT JOG. I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT. WE JUST HAVEN'T WE JUST GOT THIS GRANT.
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WE'VE BEEN WAITING TWO YEARS AND THANKFULLY TO PRP HE HELD HIS PRICE BECAUSE HE BID ON IT TWO YEARS AGO. AND ALSO HAD I HAD A RESIDENT ASKED IF THEY'RE ABLE TO PARK THEIR CARS OVERNIGHT AT THE PARK. WHAT PARK? BIG MOUND. THE ONES THAT ARE HAVING ARE THAT HAVE A SEMINOLE I. IF WE DON'T. IF WE DON'T GET IT, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO. IT'S JUST THERE'S NO.I MEAN, THERE IS A CAMERA THERE AT THEIR OWN RISK, BUT IT'S BECAUSE THEY SAID IT'S. YEAH, YEAH. OH, AND ONE MORE THING. I JUST WANT TO SAY WE'RE BACK. BACK FROM SCHOOL. WELCOME BACK TO OUR TEACHERS, STAFF AND STUDENTS. HOPE WE HAVE AN AMAZING SCHOOL YEAR. OKAY, VICE MAYOR, YOU'RE ON HERE. HELLO. SHE'S HERE. GIVE US. CAN YOU SEE IF SHE'S THERE? I'M STILL HERE. OH, THERE YOU ARE. HAVE ANY COMMENTS? EVERYBODY I THINK EVERYBODY YES, I DO HAVE COMMENTS. I THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. I HAVE SEVERAL. THE PROPERTY TAX AMENDMENT WILL BE ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT. WE KNOW THAT. WHEN DOES THAT GO INTO EFFECT.
IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT FOR THE. IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT FOR THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR. SO IT WOULD NOT IT WOULD NOT TECHNICALLY IMMEDIATELY AFFECT THE BUDGET THAT THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERING HERE IN ABOUT A MONTH. BUT YEAH. SO IT STARTS THEN. THEN IT STARTS DOES ITS RAMP UP IN THE AMOUNT OF EXEMPTION IT PROVIDES? OKAY, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WITH HOUSEHOLDS. I'M GLAD WE DON'T HAVE MUCH. THE SECOND 1FPNL ANNEXATION TAX REVENUE. WHEN WILL WE SEE THAT? WHEN WOULD THAT BE AVAILABLE? WELL, IT WENT ON. SO THEY CLOSED THIS YEAR. AND I AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IF IT WAS BEFORE JUNE 1ST, IT IT COULD BE PUT ON THERE. WAS IT BY JUNE? I KNOW WE WE FINISHED THE WE FINISHED. YEAH. WE FINISHED ALL THE ZONING STUFF. AUGUST 20TH, AUGUST 30TH. I MEAN, APRIL 30TH. YEAH. NO, ACTUALLY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN WHEN. YEAH. WHEN THE ANNEXATION WAS COMPLETE. I CAN CHECK. WE NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER I'VE BEEN GETTING. ARE WE THINKING THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR? WELL, YOU'VE ALREADY GOTTEN YOUR PRELIMINARY NUMBERS FOR THIS COMING BUDGET YEAR, AND IT DID NOT JUMP UP THAT MUCH. IT WAS LIKE 5.3% INCREASE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. SO IT FOR DEFINITELY, BUT THE ZONING, BECAUSE THEY HAD AN AG EXEMPTION ON THERE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PULL OFF THAT AG EXEMPTION IN ORDER TO GET ANY VALUE OUT OF IT. YEAH. THE, THE FACT THAT ALL THAT PROPERTY ANNEXED IN IT'S GOING TO COME IN WITH THE, THE AG EXEMPTION THAT IT HAD WHEN IT WAS IN THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY INITIALLY THERE. SO YEAH, IT IT MAY BE IN THAT NUMBER, BUT IT MAY NOT BE THAT MUCH. YEAH. ONCE THEY START, IF THEY IF THEY DO DEVELOP IT OR THE SUBSTATION OR WHATEVER THEY WERE INDICATING INITIALLY, THEN THE PROPERTY APPRAISER WILL START, YOU KNOW, ONCE IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY COMPLETED, THEN THEY WOULD REVALUE IT. OKAY.
WELL, I KNOW WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS BEFORE ABOUT PROJECT SIGNS. I'VE BEEN ASKED A COUPLE OF TIMES, WHAT IS THIS? WHAT IS THAT? WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? OFTENTIMES I'M NOT SURE. SO FOR ME, I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET PROJECT SIGNS FOR APPROVED PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING INTO THE VILLAGE SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEING DONE THERE AND HOW WE'RE GROWING. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT ONE. THE LAST ONE I HAVE IS ABOUT P Z, A B MEMBERS. WE'VE BEEN CANCELING PZAB MEETINGS, AND I KNOW WE OFTEN DON'T HAVE THINGS TO VOTE ABOUT. AND PCRB IS PLANNING ZONING AND APPEAL BOARD. I KNOW WE DON'T OFTEN HAVE TIME OR HAVE THINGS ON THE AGENDA TO VOTE ON, BUT IT'S A GREAT TIME FOR THEM TO DISCUSS THAT. WHEN WE PUT THEM ON THAT COMMITTEE, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER CHOSE ONE PERSON TO BE ON THE P, Z A, B. IT'S THE FIRST THURSDAY. IT'S WHAT THEY COMMITTED TO. WE NEED TO KEEP THEM AT THE FIRST THURSDAY, BECAUSE THAT BOARD PLAYS A CRITICAL ROLE IN THE SHAPING OF OUR VILLAGE. DEVELOPING PROPOSALS, VOTING ON CRUCIAL REGIONAL INITIATIVES LIKE COMP PLAN UPDATES, LOCAL ANNEXATION PROJECTS, DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS, REVIEWING AND IT'S ALSO A TIME FOR THEM TO GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT WHAT'S COMING,
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WHAT'S HAPPENING. IT'S ONCE A MONTH. IT IS ONE THURSDAY, THE FIRST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH THAT MONEYS FOR THE STAFF. IF THERE NEEDS TO BE STAFF, THERE DOES SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT WITHIN THE BUDGET. SO WE SHOULD BE GOOD WITH THAT. BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME FOR THEM TO GET TOGETHER AND TALK AND SHARE, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK AND SHARE OUTSIDE. IT ALSO GIVES THE COMMUNITY TIME TO TALK AND HEAR AND SEE WHAT'S COMING. EVERY MONTH SOMETHING NEW HAPPENS. THEY MEET ONCE A MONTH, SO YOU GOT 30 MORE DAYS BEFORE THEY MEET AGAIN. SO WHATEVER'S COME UP, WHATEVER'S HAPPENING, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY SO EVERYONE CAN CATCH UP. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE P, Z, A, B KEEP THEIR MEETINGS THE FIRST THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH. THAT DOES IT FOR ME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, I HAVE A COMMENT. WE TALKED ABOUT. FIRST, I WANT TO SAY HELLO EVERYONE. I HOPE EVERYBODY'S DOING GREAT. KEEP YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN SAFE DURING THIS SCHOOL YEAR. OKAY? I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME THINGS ABOUT RACING THROUGH TERRA LAGO. I'VE BEEN THROUGH TERRA LAGO AND TERRA LAGO. RESIDENTS ARE RACING THROUGH TERRA LAGO. OKAY, SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT. AND AS FAR AS OBTAINING OBTAINING INFORMATION, A LOT OF STUFF GOES THROUGH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE THAT I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ARE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION, BUT ALL THE THE BUILDING AND THE NEW BUSINESSES, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SHOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION. OKAY.GOT IT. OKAY. AND I WANT TO ADDRESS WHAT MR. MULLEN WAS TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT THIS PLAQUE. WHAT ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THIS? SO BECAUSE THIS IS ALL ON FACEBOOK AND FOR SOME REASON, EVERYBODY THINK THAT ALL OF US UP HERE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON. AND WE'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF BACK, BACK, BACK, BACK ROOM DEALINGS. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OKAY FOR ME. THEY CAN SAY ALL OF THAT. BUT BUT WHAT I WANT TO I WANT TO PUT IT OUT, PUT, PUT OUT WHAT IS WHAT IF IF YOU CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO INFRINGE ON HIS PERSONAL BUSINESS OR WHAT.
THAT'S WHY I'M REFERRING TO YOU, WADE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I WANT THE TRUTH. I WANT TO PUT OUT ALL WHAT YOU CAN PUT OUT WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, BREAKING ANY LAWS. OKAY. I'D BE GLAD TO GIVE A VERY SHORT SUMMARY. WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED IS A VACATION OF A RIGHT OF WAY AND A PLAT THAT IS ON THE RED PENS RANCH PROPERTY. OKAY, I'LL BE QUITE FRANK. AS A AS I HAVE COMMUNICATED PREVIOUSLY CONCERNING THIS MATTER, IT'S A RELATIVELY STRAIGHT FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, IT'S RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD MATTER, BUT THE VILLAGE NEEDS CERTAIN INPUTS. OKAY. WE NEED, FOR EXAMPLE, AMONG OTHER THINGS, WE NEED A PLAT OF THE PERMIT, NOT A PLOT, A SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY AS IT WOULD BE AFTER THE PLAT IS VACATED. IT'S A VERY STANDARD, VERY SIMPLE THING. UNFORTUNATELY, FOR WHATEVER REASON, I WAS, I'VE HAD BEEN FOR A WHILE UNSUCCESSFUL IN GETTING FULL TWO WAY COMMUNICATION AND UNDERSTANDING OF THAT FACT. I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN THIS TO TRY TO HELP MOVING ALONG. IN ANY EVENT, THE FOLKS INVOLVED WITH THAT PROJECT HAVE ENGAGED A LAND USE ATTORNEY IN STUART WHO IS VERY EXPERIENCED. HE'S WORKED ON A NUMBER OF MATTERS WITHIN THE VILLAGE. THE MOMENT I HEARD THAT, HE GOT INVOLVED, LITERALLY WITHIN MINUTES OF SEEING GOT IT GETTING AN EMAIL FROM HIM, I GAVE HIM A CALL AND TOLD HIM I WAS VERY HAPPY THAT HE'D GOTTEN ON BOARD. AND WE CAN MAKE THIS MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE PROCESS. IT IS A PROCESS LIKE ANY LAND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION, BECAUSE IT IS ULTIMATELY A LAND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION THAT GOES THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS, ULTIMATELY GETS PROCESSED AND GOES THROUGH DINA'S OFFICE AND THEN GOES THROUGH PCAB AND THEN COMES TO THE COUNCIL. I'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED BECAUSE IT IS VERY LEGAL, TECHNICAL, VACATING A PLAT AND SO ON. BUT IN ANY EVENT, FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, NOW THAT THAT LAND USE ATTORNEY HAS GOTTEN INVOLVED, I HAD A DETAILED DISCUSSION WITH HIM TO EXPLAIN AGAIN PRECISELY WHAT WE NEED. HE AGREED, AND HE IS ENDEAVORED TO PUT ALL THOSE THINGS TOGETHER. SO FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, WE ANTICIPATE NOW THAT THAT ATTORNEY HAS GOTTEN INVOLVED, THAT IT CAN MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS. I FIND IT UNFORTUNATE THAT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS HAVE COME ABOUT ON WHAT IS OTHERWISE A VERY SIMPLE MATTER TO MOVE THROUGH. BUT IN ANY EVENT, FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, I
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THINK IT'S GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. I HOPE THAT HELPS. IT DOES HELP. SO THAT THAT LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS NO. IF P AND L IS NOT THE GOLDEN CHILD AND MR. MULLINS IS THE STEPCHILD, THERE'S NONE OF THAT GOING ON. NO, MA'AM. NO, NO, MA'AM, NOT IN THE SLIGHTEST BIT.ALL RIGHT. IT'S JUST IT'S JUST THE CASE THAT WHENEVER WE HAVE PARTICULARLY ULTIMATELY A COMPLEX DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION REGARDING A LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND SO ON, THERE ARE SOME TO ME IT'S STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME COMPLEX PIECES THAT ARE INVOLVED AND THERE'S INFORMATION AND DOCUMENTATION THAT WE NEED AND WE CAN'T MOVE AROUND IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND ONCE WE HAVE THOSE THINGS, IT CAN PROCEED SMOOTHLY. OKAY.
MY OTHER MY OTHER CONCERN IS I'VE BEEN HEARING THIS QUITE A LOT. WHEN PEOPLE ARE PUTTING IN REQUESTS FOR WHAT PUBLIC RECORDS AND ALL OF THAT, THAT THEY ARE NOT BEING BEING HEARD OR THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEING IGNORED. OKAY. YEAH. NO, MA'AM, THAT'S NOT TRUE. SOMEBODY MAKES PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS. I MEAN, WHAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IS SOME OF THEIR REQUESTS ARE RELATED TO PCAB. SOME OF THE MEMBERS ON PCAB HAVE TO HAVE THEIR INFORMATION REDACTED.
THAT MEANS SOMEONE PHYSICALLY HAS TO GO THROUGH AND REDACT THAT INFORMATION. AND THESE REQUESTS ARE NOT. I JUST WANT A COPY OF OF A LETTER. IT'S VERY EXTENSIVE AND IT GOES OVER SEVEN, EIGHT, TEN PEOPLE. WADE HAS SEEN SOME OF THEM. AND WE'RE WE'RE I ONLY HAVE ONE CLERK. JOSH HELPS OUT LARRONDO AS HE CAN. SO IT'S IT'S LABORIOUS, VERY LABORIOUS.
WE'RE CHARGING FOR THESE REQUESTS. CORRECT. WE'RE TELLING THEM WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST. YES. AND THEN THEY SAY, OH, NEVER MIND. BUT WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF NO, NO UNTIL THEY PAY FOR IT. WE SHOULDN'T DO ANYTHING. OKAY, LET ME FINISH.
SO WHEN. WHEN LARRONDO GETS THESE THESE THESE WHEN THE CLERK OKAY, THERE'S A COMPARISON. MARTIN COUNTY AND I KNOW WE'RE DIFFERENT. WE HAVE ONE CLERK VERSUS MARTIN COUNTY HAVE HOW MANY PEOPLE I KNOW THEY HAVE MORE PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S THAT WAS. AND I WANT IT TO BE. I WANTED TO SAY IT SO PEOPLE COULD UNDERSTAND. WE GOT ONE PERSON YOU JUST SAID, JOSH TRIES TO HELP OUT AS MUCH AS HE CAN, BUT SHE'S ONLY ONE PERSON. RIGHT. AND, AND HE HAS HIS OWN ROLE TOO, VERSUS MARTIN COUNTY HAVING HOW MANY PEOPLE? WELL, THEY HAVE A WHOLE DIVISION TO HANDLE PUBLIC RECORDS. PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS DON'T GO THROUGH THE CLERK OF THE COURT BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE SIMILAR ROLE AS WHAT MISS MCBRIDE HAS. SO THERE. WHEN I LEFT THE COUNTY, THERE WERE THREE PEOPLE IN THAT DIVISION FULL TIME, AND. I MEAN, IF IT'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT RELATED, LAWANDA WILL REACH OUT TO LUCIA AND SHE'LL HELP HER AND THEN DINA. BUT AGAIN, THERE'S ONLY FOUR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S JUST. WE JUST CAN'T TURN IT OVER OVERNIGHT. IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN JUST DO A WORD SEARCH AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES OUT, WE CAN HAND OVER TO SOMEONE. OKAY. SO IT IT IS, IT DOES TAKE TIME. YEAH. OKAY. I JUST, I WANTED TO SAY THAT AND, AND GET THAT INFORMATION OUT BECAUSE WE'RE CONSISTENTLY BEING, IT'S, IT'S BEING CONSISTENTLY SAID TRANSPARENCY. AND I WANTED TO, TO HAVE IT ON RECORD THAT OUR CLERK IS ONE PERSON HAS NO HELP BECAUSE JOSH STILL HAVE HIS JOB TO DO. AND WE'RE NOT MARTIN COUNTY WHERE THERE'S A WHOLE DEPARTMENT. SO I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO LET'S JUST BE PATIENT AND, YOU KNOW, AND BE UNDERSTANDING. YES. AND LET'S START WITH ALL THE ACCUSATIONS.
YES. THE OTHER THING MARTIN COUNTY HAS IS SPECIFIC SOFTWARE TO ASSIST THE IT DEPARTMENT. SO THE FIRST THING THEY HAVE IT AT LEAST ONE PERSON WHEN I WAS THERE DEDICATED JUST TO PUBLIC RECORDS. SO THEN YOU WOULD NARROW DOWN YOUR SEARCH TO CERTAIN WORDS, AND THAT IT PERSON WAS THE ONE THAT WENT IN, AND THEN THEY WOULD TAKE THAT FILE AND SEND IT TO THE INDIVIDUALS TO SEE WHAT NEEDED TO BE REDACTED AND WHAT WAS PERTINENT. WHAT WAS THE TRUE PUBLIC RECORD, NOT TRANSITORY. AND THEN THEY WOULD TELL THEM HOW MUCH THAT WAS GOING TO COST, AND THEY'D HAVE TO PAY FOR IT BEFORE THEY GOT IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M JUST HOPING THAT THE EXPLANATION AND EVERYTHING THAT IS THAT JUST CAME OUT, THAT EVERYBODY WOULD SEE THE TRANSPARENCY IN IT AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT WOULD QUELL A LOT OF BAD FEELINGS,
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MISUNDERSTANDINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS INSTILL TRUST IN OUR RESIDENTS. YES. AND THAT WE ARE WE DO HEAR WHAT THE RESIDENTS SAY. AND WE, WE MAY WE ALL MAY AGREE OR DON'T AGREE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE JUST WANT TO BE CIVIL. EVEN IN THE IN EVEN IN OUR DISAGREEMENT FORM, WE WANT TO BE CIVIL WITH ONE ANOTHER. SO I JUST WOULD APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, AND THANK EVERYBODY FOR BRINGING THEIR QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I ALWAYS SAY THIS, IF YOU BRING ME A QUESTION, I'M GOING TO BRING IT BEFORE THE BOARD SO WE CAN ANSWER, YOU KNOW, AND IF THAT'S STILL NOT SATISFACTORY, GIVE ME ANOTHER QUESTION. I'LL BRING THAT ONE TO YOU BECAUSE WE WANT EVERYBODY AT THE END OF THE DAY, JUST TO UNDERSTAND, WE ARE SERVANTS AND WE WANT TO SERVE. OKAY, I'M DONE THERE. I'M HERE. I'M DONE. ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT YOU DO ALL THE SEARCHES BEFORE YOU'RE PAID? NO. NOT NECESSARILY. YEAH. LAUREN, DO YOU WANT DO YOU WANT TO IT? PLEASE. OKAY. WHEN WE GET. AND LET ME SAY THIS FIRST, BY THE WAY, JUST TO THIS POINT, AS YOU KNOW, I WORK ALL OVER THE STATE. LAUREN IS OUTSTANDING IN HER WORK IN DEALING WITH PUBLIC RECORDS. SHE'S EXCEEDINGLY DILIGENT IN WORKING ON THEM AND WORKING THROUGH THEM AND SO ON. AND WHEN PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS COME IN AND THEY ARE WHAT IS WHAT IS OUR THRESHOLD TIME WISE, 30 MINUTES. YEAH. WHEN WHEN WE HAVE SMALL AND TARGETED REQUESTS THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE LESS THAN 30 MINUTES TO GO AND DO WE DON'T CHARGE ANYTHING. ALL RIGHT. THE GOVERNMENTS ARE ALLOWED TO CHARGE WHEN THERE IS EXCESSIVE OR EXTENSIVE, EITHER IT OR CLERICAL WORK NEEDED TO GO SEARCHING AND SO ON. AND SOMETIMES THESE CAN TAKE HOURS OR DAYS. ALL RIGHT. OR MORE. SOME ARE EXCEEDINGLY EXTENSIVE.SO WHEN ONES ARE 30 MINUTES OR OVER ESTIMATED. ALL RIGHT. IT'S AT THAT POINT WE PUT TOGETHER AN ESTIMATE AND PROVIDE THAT ESTIMATE TO THE FOLKS WHO ARE REQUESTING IT. THIS IS AN ESTIMATE OF HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO BE OR HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST TO DO THAT. AND THEN AT THAT POINT, THEY SAY WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PUT THAT UP OR NOT, IT IS STILL A FAIR AMOUNT OF WORK, OFTEN A LARGE AMOUNT OF WORK TO PUT TOGETHER THAT ESTIMATE, BECAUSE YOU BASICALLY HAVE TO START DOING A PRE SEARCH, AMONG OTHER THINGS, TO, TO START DOING THAT.
SO IT'S AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF WORK EVEN TO COME UP WITH THAT ESTIMATE. SO NO, WE, WE ARE RHONDA IS FOLLOWING THE STATUTE CHAPTER 119 AND FOLLOWING BEST PRACTICES AROUND THE STATE ON REQUIRING PREPAYMENT ON LARGE ONES AND SO ON FOLLOWING THAT PROCEDURE. GOOD. THANK YOU.
[COMMENTS BY VILLAGE MANAGER]
THANK YOU. OKAY. IS THAT IT? ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. COMMENTS BY VILLAGE MANAGER. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? ONLY I, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM TO TALK ABOUT THIS COUNCIL, THE VICE MAYOR'S SUGGESTION ABOUT ZAB SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A DIALOG ABOUT IT AND LOOK AT HOW THEY'RE STRUCTURED AND WHAT. THEN THEY'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT. I CAN I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT NOT HAVING AN AGENDA, YOU KNOW, MINUTES, THE WHOLE JUST SITTING AROUND KIND OF IN AN OPEN MEETING. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS. AND EVEN IF THEY WERE TO ASK A QUESTION LIKE, I'LL USE RIVER OAK AS AN EXAMPLE, INITIALLY WHEN RIVER OAK CAME IN, THEY WERE ASKING FOR 175 RESIDENTIAL RESIDENCES. AND THEN WHEN THEY WENT BACK, THEY HAD TO MODIFY THAT TO 131.PEOPLE WERE ALREADY UPSET OVER, OH MY GOODNESS, 175. AND THEY DIDN'T REDUCE IT BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED. THEY HAD TO REDUCE IT BECAUSE THE MODELS WOULDN'T FIT ON THE LOTS THE WAY THEY HAD THEM SITUATED. SO IT'S LIKE, I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO SAY, WELL, YOU SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO THIS, AND THEY COME IN WITH A MODIFIED APPLICATION AND IT CHANGES AND THAT DOESN'T GET EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATED. SO WITHOUT AN AGENDA AND WITHOUT A STAFF REPORT AND THE INFORMATION CLEARLY LAID OUT, I JUST HAVE A CONCERN THAT WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO WHAT WERE THEY TALK. WERE THEY BANTER BACK AND FORTH? YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT PRODUCTIVE. OKAY. OKAY. SO DO YOU WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA? ONE MOMENT. WE HAVE GO AHEAD, VICE MAYOR. CAN WE PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING? YES. THAT'D BE AWESOME BECAUSE THAT'S AN OPEN TIME. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE CONSISTENT, WE NEED TO BE THAT WAY. THEY SET UP FOR ONCE A MONTH. AND I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND
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AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND THAT IS A CONCERN. BUT I ALSO THINK THEY CAN USE THAT TIME WISELY. AND IT'S OPEN. IT'S VERY TRANSPARENT. AND WE'RE NOT VIOLATING THE SUNSHINE LAW. IT GIVES THEM TIME TO TALK ABOUT, EVEN IF THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ELDERS THAT WE CAN'T CHANGE YET, WE CAN GET THEM PREPARED, HEAR THE IDEAS THAT THEY HAVE AND GET IT PUSHED. YOU KNOW, WHEN THE WINDOW OPENS, PUSH IT THROUGH. YEAH, WE JUST WE WILL OPPORTUNITY. I'D LIKE TO ASK THEM INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS TO WHAT THEY WOULD PREFER IN THAT REGARD. IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC ON THE AGENDA FOR THEM TO APPROVE, WHICH WAS THE REASON THEY WERE ESTABLISHED THAT THEY WOULD BE OKAY WITH STILL MEETING JUST TO MEET WHEN WHEN THEY MEET, THOUGH, CAN THEY NOT GET WHAT GENERALLY IN A MONTH WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT HAS COME THROUGH EITHER A PROPOSAL OR CHANGE OR AN ADJUSTMENT THAT'S GOING TO COME TO COUNCIL. IT'S GOING TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND IT SHOULD GO TO PCAB GENERALLY BEFORE COMING TO COUNCIL, AT LEAST THE HISTORY THEY WILL HAVE ALREADY PRIOR TO THAT MEETING, IF THEY ARE CONSISTENT IN HAVING THAT ONCE A MONTH MEETING. BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT NEXT WEEK. THANK YOU MA'AM. YEAH, I'LL LAY IT OUT FOR NEXT WEEK. THANK YOU. WEEK AFTER[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
NEXT. YEAH. OKAY. MOVING ON. I NEED A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, A MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE AGENDA. WE ARE FIRST. YOU GOT A SECOND. SECOND I SECOND. ALL RIGHT.FIRST AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY APPROVAL OF CONSENT.
[APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]
AGENDA MOTION. SO MOVED. FIRST AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. MOVING ON. RENEWABLE[RENEWAL FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WITH GRIFFIN GROUP FOR LOBBYING SERVICES]
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WITH GRIFFIN GROUP LOBBYING SERVICE. YEAH. THIS ACTUALLY COULD HAVE BEEN PLACED ON CONSENT, BUT I THOUGHT THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS. ONE, THERE ARE CONTRACT DOESN'T EXPIRE UNTIL OCTOBER. BUT ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT I'M DEALING WITH IS GOING OUT ON MATERNITY LEAVE. AND SO SHE DIDN'T WANT THAT CONTRACT TO EXPIRE POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE OF THINGS GOING ON. AND ALSO, I WANTED THE OPPORTUNITY. THIS IS WHY WE GET MONEY FROM TALLAHASSEE. WE HAVE A COMPANY THAT'S LOCATED IN TALLAHASSEE. THEY KNOW THE PEOPLE IN TALLAHASSEE. THEY HAVE ALL THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. AND THIS IS THESE INDIVIDUALS GET US ALL THAT FUNDING WITH THE HELP OF MISS. SEE YOU. AND THEY'RE ESSENTIAL. SO I JUST WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD APPROVE IT. THEY'VE NOT RAISED THEIR RATE AND IT'S WORTH IT.THERE'S NOT AN AMOUNT ON THERE. I'M SORRY. WHAT'S THE AMOUNT. 5000 A MONTH. I THOUGHT I HAD THAT IN HERE. NO IT'S NOT ON HERE. AND WE ALREADY PAY OUR MISS C OR WHATEVER HER NAME IS.
DIDN'T WE PAY HER 5000 A MONTH? SHE'S WRITING GRANTS. SO SHE DOES THE APPROPRIATION REQUEST AND SHE DOES THE ALL THE BACKGROUND AND DOES THE ACTUAL APPLICATION. BUT THESE FOLKS ACTUALLY BIRD DOG THOSE IN TALLAHASSEE MEET WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES, GO INTO THE SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES OFFICES, MAKE SURE IF THERE'S A COMMITTEE MEETING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSED FOR BUDGET, THEY ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS. THEY'RE YOUR EYES AND EARS IN TALLAHASSEE. CHLOE LIVES HERE AND SHE DOES OUR GRANTS. SHE DOES. THE APPROPRIATION REQUEST. IS SHE BEING PAID A SALARY TO BE THE CEO OF THE ECI? I HAVE NO IDEA.
WE DON'T BELONG AND I DON'T GO. YEAH. SHE'S A SHE'S AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR. SHE HAS HER OWN COMPANY. GOTCHA. THEY'VE DONE WELL FOR US IN THE PAST. SO THEY'VE DONE WELL FOR US IN THE PAST. YES. 120,000,120 MILLION WORTH IT. OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVE SECOND. SECOND, HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.
PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT PUTTING THE AMOUNT IN THERE. THE NEXT ONE
[APPROVAL OF PROPOSAL FROM RAFTELIS FINANCIAL CONSULTANTS, INC. TO PROVIDE CONSULTING SERVICES TO ESTABLISH A RATE FOR UTILIZATION OF THE VILLAGE'S DEEP INJECTION WELL]
IS PROPOSAL FROM RAF TILLIS. THEY THEY DID OUR RATE STUDY. THAT'S THEIR EXPERTISE. AND WITH THE DEEP INJECTION WELL WE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY FOR OTHERS TO UTILIZE THAT DEEP INJECTION. WELL. AND WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A RATE OF WHAT WE WOULD CHARGE. SO IT WOULD BE A REVENUE GENERATOR FOR THE VILLAGE ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO CHARGE FOR IT. AND SO THIS IS ESTABLISHING THAT RATE AS A FLAT AMOUNT. IT WON'T EXCEED 2500 $0. AND I HAD TO BRING IT[01:20:05]
TO YOU BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO HAVE THE CONTRACT, THE SCOPE DOCUMENT APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL. SO I SURE WISH PAT WERE HERE. I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. CAN WE CAN WE TABLE THIS TILL THE NEXT MEETING? WE CAN, BUT WE MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER. I MEAN, WHAT KIND OF A.I WANT TO KNOW WHO WANTS TO USE OUR DEEP INJECTION? WELL, FOR WHAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING, THE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN WITH CEDRON, THE BIOSOLID PROCESSING PLANT, THEIR BYPRODUCT. THERE THERE. THAT IS NOT DOESN'T FALL AS A RESIDENTIAL BYPRODUCT RESIDENTIAL WASTE. SO THEY WOULD NEED THEY COULD USE THE DEEP INJECTION. WELL, IT'S IT'S ALL PERMITTED AND IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO DO THAT. BUT THEY WOULD HAVE A LINE RUNNING INTO THE DEEP INJECTION WELL TO HANDLE THEIR BYPRODUCT. AND THE BYPRODUCT IS WHAT IT'S A TYPE OF WASTE FROM THEIR PROCESSING. NO I UNDERSTAND, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT CONSISTS OF. THAT'S WHY I WAS HOPING SOMEONE WOULD BE HERE. PAT WOULDN'T KNOW THAT I CAN FIND. I'D HAVE TO TALK TO THE. I'D LIKE TO TABLE THIS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION. OKAY? YEAH. OKAY. SHE'S GOT A MOTION. SECOND. SECOND. WAIT A SECOND, SECOND. OKAY. WE GOT FIRST AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR TO TABLE. OKAY, I JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR. ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE JEEP AND DIXON. WELL, BECAUSE DEEP INJECTION WELLS, SERIOUS MATTER. AND WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON IT. YEAH. AND I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR. THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. AND WHO ELSE MAY BE INTERESTED IN USING IT? AND IF WE'RE SETTING A PRECEDENCE AND WHAT ARE WE LIMITING THE USES FOR THE DEEP INJECTION. WELL I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PARAMETERS FOR THE USE OF THIS IS. SO IF WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION I'LL BE MORE COMFORTABLE. OKAY.
THANK YOU. IS THERE A FEE FOR THEM USING OUR. WELL, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. OH YEAH. TO GET TO FIND OUT WHAT THE FEE WOULD BE. OKAY. WELL, I'M TALKING FOR A SURGEON USING THE.
WELL, THAT'S THAT'S ALL THAT'S WHAT THIS WOULD. YEAH. THIS WOULD BE THIS WOULD BE THE STUDY TO COME UP WITH THE FEE THAT ANY OUTSIDE USER WOULD PAY TO USE THE. WELL, OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT USE OF THAT. WELL A LITTLE BIT BETTER. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. TOM JENSEN TO BE HERE. OKAY. COULD YOU MAYBE MAKE THAT HAPPEN? YES THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? OKAY. OUR NEXT
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MOBILE FOOD DISTRIBUTION IS TOMORROW AT THOMAS POWER PARK, 8 A.M. AND WE'RE ALSO IN NEED OF VOLUNTEERS. WE HAVE SOME SPEAKING. YES, MISS JULIE ROBERTS. HI, I'M JULIE, AND I WANTED TO ADDRESS SOMETHING ANGELINA HAD MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT BACK TO SCHOOL. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK HER. OUR WHOLE PTA TEAM, THE PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS, THE FAMILIES WHO ALL CAME BACK AND SUPPORTED NOT JUST WARFIELD, BUT ALL THE SCHOOLS IN INDIANTOWN. THAT WAS AMAZING. LAST WEEK WAS REALLY, REALLY A GOOD WELCOMING BACK. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. ALSO, THE GARCIA COMPANY, WE ALL KNOW, GAVE BACKPACKS AND LOTS AND LOTS OF SUPPLIES AND ALL THE INDIVIDUALS TEARING A BUNCH OF A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE TO HELP PASS OUT ALL OF THOSE SUPPLIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF THAT. THAT MEANS A LOT TO THE CHILDREN. THAT MEANS A LOT TO THE TEACHERS. IT'S JUST A BIG HELP FOR OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY. ALSO, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WHO HAVE HELPED MINE AND MY SISTER'S CLASSES IN THE PAST AND HAVE ALREADY HELPED. THIS YEAR. WE HAVE, AS TWO OF YOU ALREADY HAVE EXPERIENCED, WITH YOUR CLASSES AND SPECIAL NEEDS. IT'S TAXING, IT'S CHALLENGING, BUT IT IS THE MOST REWARDING JOB YOU WILL EVER GET. YOU CANNOT MEASURE IT THROUGH ANY TYPE OF STANDARDIZED TEST EVER. THE REWARDS AND THE GROWTH THAT GOES ON IN THESE SPECIAL NEEDS CLASSES. AND I JUST REALLY WANTED TO SAY THAT JEAN AND I BOTH APPRECIATE ALL OF THE SUPPORT THAT THIS TOWN HAS GIVEN TO US AND TO OUR CLASSES. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO A GREAT YEAR WITH OUR CHILDREN AHEAD. AND THANK YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU. OKAY. THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING WILL BE AUGUST[NEXT REGULAR MEETING (ANNOUNCE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION)]
27TH, 6:00 RIGHT HERE. AND WE'LL BE HERE. WE'LL BE PROBABLY HERE, RIGHT? YES, YES, I HAVE A SILLY, POSSIBLY SILLY QUESTION. ARE WE COMING BACK THAT TIME OR NOT AT A LATER[01:25:06]
DATE. NEXT MEETING IS AUGUST 27TH, RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM. RIGHT HERE IN THIS