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OKAY, MADAM. MADAM CLERK, ROLL CALL PLEASE. MAYOR DEPAOLO HERE. VICE MAYOR. WATERS BROWN HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER. PEREZ HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. PALMER. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. SAWYER HERE.
OKAY. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY, AND WELCOME TO OUR JULY 9TH INDIAN TOWN VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING. I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU TO SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. THE BATHROOMS ARE LOCATED AT THE EAST END OF THE CORRIDOR TO YOUR RIGHT. THE EXITS ARE AT BOTH ENDS OF THE CORRIDOR.
TONIGHT, YOU'LL HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK. THE FIRST WILL BE DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SEGMENT, WHERE YOU CAN SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. THE SECOND WILL BE DURING THE AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSION. AT THIS TIME YOU CAN COMMENT ON THAT ITEM. THERE WILL ALSO BE A SEGMENT PRIOR TO THE CLOSE OF THE MEETING. FOR ANY LATECOMERS THAT DID NOT GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES IN EACH SEGMENT. PLEASE ADHERE TO OUR CIVILITY PRACTICE IN THIS AND ALL COUNCIL MEETINGS. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE FILL OUT THE INFORMATION CARD LOCATED ON THE BACK TABLE BEHIND YOU AND HAND IT TO THE CLERK. AND AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK YOU TO STAND FOR THE INVOCATION GIVEN BY PASTOR WILLIAMS, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. MY FATHER IN HEAVEN, WHO ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET TOGETHER TO DISCUSS THE FUTURE OF INDIAN TECH. SO GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE THIS FINE BUILDING. AND THE HARD WORK OF THOSE THAT THAT LEAD AND SERVE. WE'RE ESPECIALLY GRATEFUL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR THAT WE CELEBRATE THE BIRTH OF OUR NATION. AND WE WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. WE PRAY EARNESTLY FOR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. TONIGHT WE ASK THAT THY SPIRIT BE WITH US WHEN WE LEAVE CONTENTION BEHIND AND MOVE FORWARD. WE PRAY THAT WE'LL DO THINGS THAT ARE AND TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE, THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE, BUT ALSO TO TO THE FATHER IN HEAVEN, THAT WE WILL DO THINGS. AND DECIDE THINGS FOR US. AND WE ASK THIS IN THE NAME OF OUR SAVIOR, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. OKAY. MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, OR PULLED ITEMS OR ANY
[ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, PULLED ITEMS OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS]
[PROCLAMATIONS, AWARDS, AND SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS]
MODIFICATIONS? NO, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE PROCLAMATION. PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH. PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY, INCLUDING OUR OWN. AND WHEREAS OUR PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES ARE VITALLY IMPORTANT TO ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAINING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, ENSURING THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF ALL RESIDENTS, AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL VITALITY OF OUR REGION. AND WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS BUILD HEALTHY, ACTIVE COMMUNITIES THAT AID IN THE PREVENTION OF CHRONIC DISEASE AND ENSURES ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF AGE, ABILITY OR BACKGROUND, HAVE ACCESS TO NATURE AND RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. AND WHEREAS PARK AND RECREATION AGENCIES ACROSS THE NATION PROMOTE PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL, AND MENTAL WELLNESS THROUGH OUR ORGANIZED PROGRAMS, SPECIAL EVENTS, AND ACTIVITIES IN SERENE OUTDOOR SETTINGS. AND WHEREAS, THE DEDICATED STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS OF LOCAL PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT SELFISHLY SUPPORT COMMUNITY WELL-BEING BY MAINTAINING SAFE SPACES, LEADING INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS, AND FOSTERING SOCIAL CONNECTIONS. AND WHEREAS THE MONTH OF JULY HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS PARK AND RECREATION MONTH BY THE NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARK ASSOCIATION, ENCOURAGING COMMUNITIES TO CELEBRATE THE ESSENTIAL SERVICES THAT PARK, PARKS AND RECREATION PROFESSIONALS PROVIDE. NOW THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JULY 2026 AS PARK, RECREATION, PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO EXPLORE THE MANY BENEFITS OFFERED BY OUR LOCAL PARKS, TRAILS, PROGRAMS AND NATURAL SPACES. OKAY, THIS RESOURCE. HI DEBBIE RESORTS[00:05:10]
PARKS DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD. YEAH, IT'S JUST I'M SHORT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF PARKS AND RECREATION TO THE FAMILIES OF INDIANTOWN. WE PROVIDE THEM WITH SAFE PLACES TO PLAY, STAY HEALTHY, AND CONNECT WITH NEIGHBORS. WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO HELP US CELEBRATE AND JOIN US AT FAMILY FUN DAY THIS COMING SATURDAY AT POST FAMILY PARK FOR OUR FOURTH ANNUAL FAMILY FUN DAY EVENT. IT'S FROM 10 TO 2 P.M. AND WE'LL HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME AND SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR PARKS TEAM. AND I ALSO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE PLANNING A KICKBALL EVENT. WE'RE STARTING A VILLAGE TEAM, AND WE'D LOVE TO SEE OTHER TEAMS OUT THERE TO COMPETE WITH US. FOR FRIDAY, AUGUST 7TH FROM 530 TO 8:00 AT BOOKER PARK ON THE SPORTS FIELD. SO THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCIL, FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. THANK YOU. YOU GUYS WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH US? BRIAN, COME UP AND GET YOUR. OH COME ON. OKAY.MAKE SURE YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. OKAY. NEXT WE GOT PUBLIC COMMENTS. DO
[PUBLIC COMMENT (3 MINUTES EACH)]
WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? YES, SIR. THE FIRST IS BRANDON CECIL. WELCOME. WELCOME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO READ FAST. IT'S A PREPARED DOCUMENT. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. I WOULD LIKE TO START BY SAYING THIS IS NOT A CALL OUT. THIS IS NOT ACCUSATORY OR DISRESPECTFUL. CATEGORIZATION OF EVENTS, SCENARIOS, SITUATIONS, OR PEOPLE. THESE ARE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE AFTER WITNESSING AND TAKING PART IN THE VERY PROCESS OUR FOUNDING FATHERS HAVE AFFORDED TO US AND RISKED EVERYTHING TO INITIALIZE, INSTITUTE, AND PROTECT CONCERNS THAT IF TO BE DISPELLED WITH TRUTH, FALLS UNDER THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL AND STAFF. MY CONCERNS ARE AS FOLLOWS. PROFITABILITY OVER CITIZENRY. INSTEAD OF CHOOSING TO INFORM CITIZENS OF WHAT ITEMS REQUIRE PERMITS, A CAMPAIGN TO SEND CODE ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL ON WHAT APPEAR TO BE BRAND NEW TRUCKS TO TAKE PICTURES OF CITIZENS PRIVATE PROPERTY AND ISSUE FINES FOR NONCOMPLIANCE OR ITEMS NOT KNOWN TO REQUIRE PERMITS. THIS IS CATCHING PEOPLE IN PERMIT REQUIRED ITEMS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. SHE STATED THAT SHEET OF ITEMS REQUIRING PERMITS TO BE ISSUED UPON ACCOUNT CREATION SO CITIZENS ARE INFORMED. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA, ALONG WITH ANY ITEMS THAT INDIAN TOWN HAS DEEMED REQUIRING A PERMIT.THIS WOULD BENEFIT THE CITIZENS AND INFORM THEM, AS OPPOSED TO A GOTCHA PIECE OF PAPER SHOWING THAT THEY OWE MORE MONEY. THEY ALREADY PAY TAXES HERE. IS THIS A CONTRIVED FARCE TO SQUEEZE MORE MONEY FROM A SOURCE OF INCOME, ILL TIMED UPDATES AND NEW DOCUMENTS? ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, I HAVE COME TO THESE MEETINGS AND FOUND HEAVILY AMENDED DOCUMENTS OR WHOLE NEW DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC PRIOR, AND OCCASIONALLY NOT AVAILABLE TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS UNTIL JUST BEFORE THE START OF A GIVEN MEETING. WHEN WE HAVE MINUTES TO REVIEW DOCUMENTS, WE HAVE QUESTIONS, WOULDN'T YOU? THE TROUBLING PART IS WE GET MUCH OF THIS INFORMATION LAST MINUTE, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE VOTES ON, WHICH YOU ARE CLEARLY PREPARED FOR AT TIMES AND HAD PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF AT TIMES, EVIDENCED BY THE PRESENCE OF APPOINTEES AND OTHER BOARDS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, NOT OUR OWN, TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS, NOT OUR OWN. THE PUBLIC NOT ONLY DESERVES ACCESS TO THESE DOCUMENTS PRIOR TO THESE MEETINGS, AND ENSURES THAT THE STAFF AND THE COUNCIL ARE HELD TO A STANDARD AND IDENTIFIES A VALUE OF MEASURES TAKEN TO INFORM THE CITIZENS. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT YOU ADHERE TO YOUR OWN RESOLUTION, WHICH IS 002-2018. ANY AMENDMENTS OR NEW DOCUMENTS THAT DO NOT MEET THE RESOLUTION, WHICH IS THE MONDAY PROCEEDING, SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE ADMITTED UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT THE COUNCIL, STAFF AND CITIZENS CAN GIVE MORE THAN A GLANCE, REVIEW AND MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS AND FORMULATE VALID QUESTIONS AND OPINIONS WHICH SHOULD BE VALUABLE TO YOU ALL. I AM AWARE THAT THE VILLAGE MANAGER CAN WAIVE THESE TIMELINES, BUT PERHAPS THIS NEEDS TO BE REVISED. CRITICISM AND BACKLASH.
ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, I HAVE WITNESSED STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBERS GET UPSET AT CRITICISM AND QUESTIONS MANY TIMES QUESTIONS THAT RECEIVE NO ANSWERS. YOU ALL OPTED FOR GROWTH. WITH THAT COMES AN INCREASE IN INTEREST IN THE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE THAT AFFECT ART AND DIRECT OUR LIVES. IT IS EXTREMELY EASY TO TAKE CHARGE OF THINGS. IT IS DIFFICULT TO BE A LEADER WHEN YOU ARE A TRUE LEADER. EVERYTHING IS YOUR FAULT.
EVERYTHING A LEADER IS NEVER AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO FINGER POINT ONLY A MIRROR.
COMMUNICATION NOT UNDERSTOOD. THAT IS THE LEADER'S FAULT. SOMEONE PERFORMING AN ACTION THAT WAS NOT SANCTIONED LIKE A WATER FILTER OR SOFTENER. THAT IS THE LEADER'S FAULT. RAN OUT
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OF TIME. SO CLOSE. THANK YOU. MELISSA HAIG. THIS IS FAR EASIER. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I EXPERIENCED A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL MEETING AT THE PREP. BRIAN AND DEBORAH WERE EXTRAORDINARY. THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE ON THAT PANEL ARE CITIZENS AND THEY WERE EXEMPLARY. WHY? BECAUSE THEY ASKED QUESTIONS. THEY ANSWERED QUESTIONS. THEY WERE HAPPY.THEY DIDN'T GET OFFENDED. THEY DIDN'T ARGUE. AND THEY TABLED A HECK OF A LOT IN ORDER TO GET MORE INFORMATION. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE THE PUBLIC SHOULD SEE. AND I ENCOURAGE ANYONE OUT THERE WHO WANTS TO SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A COUNCIL MEETING AND THE PREP GO, BECAUSE IT RESTORES YOUR FAITH IN HUMANITY, BECAUSE YOU SEE A WHOLE DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT. YOU SEE PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING THROUGH DOCUMENTS AND HAVE QUESTIONS AND SAY, HEY, AIN'T GOT IT. WE'RE GOING TO TABLE IT MORE OFTEN THAN JUST PASSING. AND IT WAS WONDERFUL. NO ONE FELT UNWELCOME. NO ONE WAS TALKED DOWN TO. NO ONE WAS DISMISSED.
NO ONE WAS GASLIT. EVERYONE WAS WELCOME. SO THANK YOU TO EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN WHO CHOOSES TO TAKE THEIR OWN TIME TO SERVE ON THE PRAB AND TO DEBORAH AND BRIAN FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP THERE, BECAUSE IT WAS TRULY EXEMPLARY. AND WE THANK YOU. SECONDLY, I STILL HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING BACK ABOUT THE ESTABLISHMENT OR NOT OF A RESIDENTS ADVISORY COUNCIL.
THIS IS NOW THE THIRD TIME THAT I'M ASKING ABOUT IT, AND I'M WAITING FOR SOMEBODY UP HERE TO EITHER SAY YAY OR NAY, TAKE IT FOR IT OR NOT. BUT HERE WE ARE STILL ASKING FOR THAT AND GETTING NO INFORMATION. I'M COMING BACK FOR THE THIRD TIME, ALSO ASKING FOR A CONSIDERATION FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE PAUSE ON DATA CENTERS. IT'S ALREADY BEEN ADMITTED ON MEDIA THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. IF WE DON'T KNOW PRECISELY WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, NOT HAVING AN ADMINISTRATIVE PAUSE TO GO THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF FINDING OUT AND LOOKING AT THOSE ELDERS IS NEGLIGENT. YOU DON'T SIGN A CONTRACT FOR A CAR. YOU DON'T SIGN A CONTRACT FOR EMPLOYMENT WITHOUT READING IT FULLY AND KNOWING WHAT YOU'RE GETTING YOURSELF INTO. IF WE DON'T KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PAUSE IS SENSIBLE. AND I KNOW THERE'S PRESSURE BEHIND THE SCENES NOT TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN, BUT THE PEOPLE WANT IT TO HAPPEN, AND THAT'S WHO YOU REPRESENT. I'M WAITING FOR THOSE ANSWERS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ERIC MILLER. ACTUALLY GOING TO BE BRIEF. I HOPE THERE'S A SEMI TRAILER THAT'S PARKED ON YOUR FIVE ACRES DOWN HERE AT THE BASE OF THE BRIDGE. IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. I FIND IT VERY DISRESPECTFUL THAT YOU'RE ALLOWING ONE OF YOUR DEVELOPER INTERESTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, FUNDING CAMPAIGNS TO ALLOW ADVERTISEMENT ON THAT PROPERTY. I HOPE YOU'RE GAINING MONEY FROM IT. IF YOU'RE NOT GAINING MONEY FROM IT, CAN I TAKE OUT A SIGN? WHEN DO I GET TO HANG MINE? I THINK THAT THIS IS JUST ANOTHER KIND OF OH, IT'S JUST COSMETIC. WE OVERLOOKED IT. BUT WHEN YOU START PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER, YOU UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THINGS THE WAY THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT, WHOSE INTERESTS ARE AT HEART HERE. REALLY? YEAH. WE'LL GET YOU A SIGN. WE'RE GOING TO HANG IT IN THE SIGN OF THE TRAILER. ENJOY. GET YOU SOME MORE. HOME.
SOLD. GO GET EM, GUYS. THANK YOU. LINDA NICCUM. WELCOME. FOR THE RECORD, LINDA. IT JUST TICKLES ME PINK TO HAVE MORE THAN JUST ME STANDING UP HERE GIVING YOU THE WHAT FOR, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT IT HAD BEEN A WHILE SINCE I HAD GIVEN YOU MY $0.02 WORTH, AND SO I VERY HURRIEDLY PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING. I'D LIKE TO RECAP SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT I'VE BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST, BUT DON'T APPEAR TO BE AREAS THAT REQUIRE. THEY STILL APPEAR TO BE AREAS THAT REQUIRE IMPROVEMENT. NUMBER ONE IS LETTING US, JOHN. Q PUBLIC, KNOW WHAT IS BEING WORKED ON, THOUGHT ABOUT IN THE PIPELINE BEFORE IT SHOWS UP AS AN AGENDA ITEM AND READY TO BE VOTED ON. NUMBER TWO, COMMITTEE REPORTS. YOU ALL CHOSE COMMITTEES TO BE
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ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN LAST FALL. WHERE ARE YOUR REPORTS? EITHER YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THOSE COMMITMENTS OR YOU DON'T THINK WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON? THESE ARE THE COMMITTEES THAT WILL TELL US WHAT IS HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF INDIAN TOWN, IN THE COUNTY, IN THE STATE. WE NEED TO THAT INFORMATION JUST AS MUCH AS YOU GUYS DO. NUMBER THREE, HOW ARE WE, YOUR EMPLOYER, SUPPOSED TO JUDGE YOUR PERFORMANCE IF YOU ONLY SHOW UP FOR MEETINGS TWICE A MONTH? AND DON'T TELL US WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING TO EARN YOUR PAYCHECK, YOUR PERFORMANCE REVIEWS COMING UP VERY SOON. AND I, FOR ONE, WANT TO SEE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS. I WANT TO KNOW THAT YOU WANT YOUR JOB. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THAT IS IT, MAYOR. THAT'S ME.SHE SAID THAT WAS IT. THAT'S IT. THAT'S WHY I RANG MY BELL. OKAY. COMMENTS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I
[COMMENTS BY VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS]
HAVE TWO COMMENTS THAT I'M GOING TO MAKE. REALLY. I'M GOING TO I HAVE TWO THINGS THAT I WANT TO BRING UP REALLY BRIEFLY. THE FIRST ONE IS IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION, AND THIS IS A REQUEST FOR SOMEONE TO STEP UP.SO WE'RE NOT CONSTANTLY FIGHTING FOR REVENUE TO SUPPORT THE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION. I WOULD LOVE TO CANVASS AROUND AND SEE IF WE COULD GET SOMEBODY THAT'S WILLING TO FUND THIS SO THAT WE AREN'T HAVING TO TO SAY, HEY, WE'LL GET $5,000 HERE, $2,000 THERE.
LET'S LET'S GET SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT'S WILLING TO, TO PUT UP SOME MONEY FOR THAT. THE SECOND ONE. OKAY, GUYS, I HAVE BEEN LEADING UP TO THIS FOR TWO MONTHS NOW. I'VE ASKED FOR A MEETING, WHICH WE ARE SCHEDULING. I BELIEVE WE'LL FINALIZE THE SCHEDULE TONIGHT.
SEEING WHO'S AVAILABLE WHEN. SO EITHER THE AUGUST THE 1ST OR AUGUST THE 8TH OR THE TWO DATES THAT WE WILL BE HAVING THE INFORMATIVE COMMUNITY MEETING. IN LIGHT OF THAT MEETING, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF, I MOVE THAT THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN ESTABLISH A 90 DAY ADMINISTRATIVE PAUSE ON THE ACCEPTANCE, PROCESSING AND APPROVAL OF ALL NEW APPLICATIONS FOR LARGE LOAD DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS DURING THE 90 DAY PERIOD. I REQUEST THE VILLAGE STAFF PROCEED WITH THE INFORMATIONAL MEETING I PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED, INCLUDING TECHNICAL EXPERTS, REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, UTILITY PROVIDERS, AND RELEVANT STAFF SO THAT THE COUNCIL AND OUR RESIDENTS CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND THE CURRENT AND PROJECTED DEMANDS ON OUR WATER AND ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS PAUSE IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER FACTS, EVALUATE AVAILABLE DATA, CONSIDER POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS TO COMMUNITY CONCERNS, AND BECOME MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE LEGAL AND POLICY OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US. TO BE CLEAR, I AM NOT PROPOSING ANY AMENDMENTS TO OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, NOR AM I SEEKING TO IMPOSE ANY ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS OR REQUIREMENTS ON THE APPLICATIONS PROCESS AT THIS TIME. RATHER, I AM SIMPLY REQUESTING SUFFICIENT SUFFICIENT TIME FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONDUCT DUE DILIGENCE, MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS REGARDING FUTURE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS BASED ON A THOROUGH UNDERSTANDING OF THE FACTS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPLICATIONS BEFORE US. OKAY, I MADE A MOTION. OKAY. I HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. CORRECT. OKAY. SO HERE I THINK THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PAUL SHOULD BE MORE THAN 30, 90 DAYS. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST A 12 TO 18 MONTH ADMINISTRATIVE. PAUL.
SO WE CAN GET ALL THE INFORMATION CONCERNING IT. SO THAT'S NOT FOR OR AGAINST.
THAT'S SIMPLY SO WE CAN WE CAN KNOW BASED ON LIEUTENANT, I MEAN, LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.
COLLINS, THAT AND I SAID IT LAST TIME, IT IS TO IT. THE STUFF IS MOVING FAST AND NO ONE IS SAYING WE'RE AGAINST IT OR WE'RE FOR IT. WE JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON SO WE CAN MAKE AN INFORMATIVE DECISION SO THAT THE. AND WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON THAT, THAT THE LANGUAGE FOR THE ELDERS HAVE SOME SAFEGUARDS IN IT FOR US BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHATEVER HAPPENS, IT. WE'RE WE'RE LEFT WITH, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT A PROBLEM. MY UNDERSTANDING ALSO IS THAT THE END USERS HAVE A, HAVE HAVE A TENDENCY OF ABANDONING. THAT'S THAT'S FROM MY RESEARCH. THEY ABANDONED THOSE DATA CENTERS. SO FOR THAT, THAT'S JUST MY
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THAT'S JUST WHAT I READ. AND IT COULD BE FALSE, YOU KNOW, BUT HERE IS THE OTHER THING. IF.AND IS THERE RIGHT TO ABANDON. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE. THE PROBLEM THAT'S CAUSED BY IT.
AND I KNOW THAT THE, THE, THE RESIDENTS THERE, YOU KNOW, OTHER APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE COME IN AND ALL OF THAT AFFECTS BOOKER PARK. SO IT WOULD DO US ALL THE WORLD OF GOOD THAT PAUSING IT AND GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT. EVERYBODY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, TO ASK THEIR QUESTIONS, TO DO THEIR RESEARCH. SO WHEN THE PARTIES THAT WANT TO BUILD ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY, WHEN THEY COME TO BUILD, MY UNDERSTANDING ALSO IS THAT THEY HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE. SO BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT REPRESENTATIVE, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO QUELL WHATEVER ANY MISNOMER. BUT IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, IT'S GOING TO THE, THE, THE, THE RESIDENTS WILL NEVER TRUST THIS GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THE FIRST THING THAT THEY'RE SAYING AND CONTINUOUSLY WE DON'T HEAR THEM, WE DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO. AND THEN SOME HAVE EVEN IMPLIED THAT WE'RE PAID OFF. I'M STILL WAITING ON MY $2 MILLION. CAN SOMEBODY GET MY MONEY SINCE I'M PAID OFF? I WANT MY MONEY, Y'ALL. BUT I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT'S BEING SAID. YOU KNOW, I SAID A LITTLE FUNNY. I DON'T MEAN TO OFFEND ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO KEEP IT LIGHT. BUT NONE OF US UP HERE LIKE TO BE CALLED BOUGHT. WE DON'T WANT THAT. AND WE, WE DEFINITELY AND I, AND I THINK I'M Y'ALL CAN CORRECT ME. I DON'T THINK NONE OF US WANT TO WANT TO BE BOUGHT OR, YOU KNOW, NONE OF US ARE BOUGHT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND ONE THING, THAT WE HAVE YOUR BEST INTERESTS AT HEART. THERE ARE SOME HARD THINGS THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME NOSE, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME YESES. BUT AT LEAST WHEN WE ALL COME TO THE TABLE, WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, OKAY, YOU DID SAY THAT, OKAY, I CAN AGREE. AND WE CAN WE CAN DISAGREE, YOU KNOW, RESPECTFULLY. BUT WHEN PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE HEARD, THAT'S WHEN WE GET ALL THE EXTRA STUFF. AND SO MY JOB, JUST LIKE SISTER MISS NICHOLS SAID, I'M THINKING I'M IN CHURCH. I'M SORRY. WHEN MISS NICHOLS SAID. WE DON'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY, Y'ALL LESS THAN $10,000 A YEAR. OKAY? BUT WE DO THIS BECAUSE WE LOVE IT. WE DO THIS BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE A HELP TO THE COMMUNITY. AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANT Y'ALL TO TRUST US, WHETHER IT'S ELECTION YEAR OR NOT. WE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, LIKE SUSAN SITTING BACK THERE, SHE DID A GREAT JOB. WE DON'T WANT Y'ALL TO JUST LIKE Y'ALL TRUST HER DURING HER TERM AND SHE'S NOT HERE. WE WANT WHEN WE'RE DONE, WE WANT Y'ALL TO TRUST US TOO, THAT WE DID OUR VERY BEST. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING FOR THE 12 TO 18 MONTH ADMINISTRATIVE PAUSE SO THAT WE CAN GET IT, WHETHER WE NEED IT OR NOT, JUST TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT THE DATA, HAVE THE DISCUSSION, AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD. I WANT TO REITERATE WHY I ASKED FOR A 90 DAY PAUSE, BECAUSE A 90 DAY PAUSE DOES GIVE US TIME TO TO COLLECT INFORMATION, HAVE THE MEETING GET SOME IMPORTANT DATA, AND NOT NECESSARILY STEP ON THE TOES OF THE LAW AND BRING DOWN A PROBLEM FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE CAN'T AFFORD TO BE SUED FOLKS, FOR DOING THINGS WRONG. 12 TO 18 MONTHS IS RESTRICTIVE. IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO BRING IT'S GOING TO BRING US SOME HARDSHIPS. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT WE ARE ALSO IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ELECTION, AND I DON'T SEE WHY WE SHOULD IMPOSE OUR WILL ON WHOEVER SITTING IN THESE SEATS IN A FEW MONTHS. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD VOTE FOR A STOP UNTIL WE CAN GET WHOEVER'S HERE SEATED. THEY CAN GET FAMILIAR WITH THE ACTUAL FACTS AND WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON, AND THEN THEY MAKE THAT CHOICE. I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN A POSITION DURING THIS TIME OF BEING REELECTED TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT LONG TERM. THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I ACTUALLY MADE A MOTION. INSTEAD OF JUST GIVING AN OPINION, I MADE A MOTION. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WE, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT. AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO MAKE AN ACTUAL MOTION AFTER WE DISCUSS MINE, YOU CAN DO THAT. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? KAREN, REPEAT YOUR MOTION AGAIN. I WOULD LIKE TO ESTABLISH A 90 DAY ADMINISTRATIVE PAUSE ON ACCEPTANCE, PROCESSING AND APPROVAL ON ALL APPLICATIONS, ON ALL NEW APPLICATIONS FOR LARGE LOAD DATA CENTERS,
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DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS DURING THIS 90 DAY PERIOD. I REQUEST THAT THE VILLAGE STAFF PROCEED WITH INFORMATIONAL MEETING I PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED, INCLUDING TECHNICAL EXPERTS, REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, UTILITY PROVIDERS, AND RELEVANT RELEVANT STAFF SO THAT THE COUNCIL AND OTHER AND OUR RESIDENTS CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND THE CURRENT AND PROJECTED DEMANDS ON OUR WATER AND ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE SPECIFICALLY, AND OTHER THINGS THAT MAY MAY BECOME APPARENT TO US. THIS PAUSE IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER FACTS, EVALUATE AVAILABLE DATA, CONSIDER POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS TO COMMUNITY CONCERNS, AND BECOME MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE LEGAL AND POLICY OPTIONS THAT ARE ACTUALLY AVAILABLE TO US. TO BE CLEAR, I MY SEEKING TO IMPOSE ANY ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS OR REQUIREMENTS ON THE APPLICATION PROCESS AT THIS TIME. RATHER, I AM SIMPLY REQUESTING SUFFICIENT TIME FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONDUCT DUE DILIGENCE, MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS REGARDING FUTURE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS BASED ON THOROUGH UNDERSTANDING OF THE FACTS INFRASTRUCTURE IMPLICATIONS BEFORE US. I FEEL LIKE THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO LET THE COMMUNITY DECIDE WHO THEY WANT TO BE SITTING HERE MAKING THESE DECISIONS. IT ALSO GIVES A LITTLE TIME FOR WHOEVER IS SITTING HERE MAKING THESE DECISIONS, NOT TO HAVE TO JUMP AND MAKE A DECISION ON AN APPLICATION THAT THEY'RE NOT PREPARED FOR. ANYBODY ELSE? WADE, CAN YOU CHIME IN ON THIS? YOU ARE OUR ATTORNEY. AS I'VE COMMENTED TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE PUBLIC A NUMBER OF TIMES BEFORE OVER THE LAST VERY MANY MONTHS. IT'S MY LEGAL OPINION THAT SUCH AN ADMINISTRATIVE PAUSE, WHETHER IT'S 90 DAYS OR 12 MONTHS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THE RELEVANT PROVISION OF SENATE BILL 180, WHICH WE HAVE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH PREVIOUSLY.I DON'T WANT TO BE A BROKEN RECORD AND GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE PIECE AGAIN. MY LEGAL OPINION ON THAT MATTER REMAINS UNCHANGED. I DO RECOGNIZE, BECAUSE I KNOW I HEARD IT ON THE NEWS, AND I'M SURE AROUND HERE THAT NOT JUST SOME JURISDICTIONS UP IN THE PANHANDLE, BUT JURISDICTIONS CLOSER TO HERE ARE NOW PROPOSING SUCH THINGS. THAT HAPPENS IN HEAVILY CONTESTED AND CONTROVERSIAL TIMES. NEVERTHELESS, MY LEGAL OPINION REMAINS THE SAME THAT IMPOSING SUCH AN ADMINISTRATIVE PAUSE WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF SENATE BILL 180. AND AGAIN, AS I'VE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, IT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF SENATE BILL 180, NOTWITHSTANDING THE RECENT ADOPTION OF SENATE BILL 484 RELATING TO DATA CENTERS, AS WE'VE ALSO DISCUSSED. ONE LAST PIECE OF INFORMATION I WOULD ACTUALLY ADD ON THAT I ONLY HAD A CHANCE TO SEE, EVEN AS I SAT DOWN HERE. DIDN'T SEE IT UNTIL AFTER THE MEETING HAD STARTED.
UTTERLY, UTTERLY UNPROMPTED BY ME. I HAPPEN TO HAVE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM LATE THIS AFTERNOON AS I WAS DRIVING, I GUESS, FROM A DEVELOPMENT ATTORNEY, A LAND USE ATTORNEY WHO HAS REPRESENTED MULTIPLE DEVELOPERS, AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, DOES REPRESENT MULTIPLE DEVELOPERS WITHIN THE VILLAGE. EMAILING ME PRECISELY ABOUT THIS MATTER. AND IN VERY SIMPLE TERMS. ADVISING ME THAT SB 180 WOULD PROHIBIT ANYTHING ALONG THE LINES OF A REGULATION THAT WOULD THAT WOULD IN ANY WAY INHIBIT THE PROCESSING OF APPLICATIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. VERY IMPORTANT POINT TO KEEP IN MIND ABOUT THE KIND OF WILD LANGUAGE IN SB 180. IT IS NOT IT DOES NOT JUST PROHIBIT ADOPTING SUCH A THING. ADOPTING CERTAIN TYPES OF MORATORIUMS, ADOPTING MORE RESTRICTIVE OR BURDENSOME LAND USE REGULATIONS, OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS, OR MORE RESTRICTIVE OR BURDENSOME PROCEDURES CONCERNING REVIEW AND APPROVAL AND ISSUANCE OF SITE PLAN, DEVELOPMENT PERMIT OR DEVELOPMENT ORDER. IT IS NOT JUST ADOPTING IT. IT'S ACTUALLY PROPOSING IT. ALL RIGHT. KIND OF WILD. I RECOGNIZE THAT I CAN ONLY SPECULATE, BUT I WOULD OFFER TO YOU THAT FOR A PROPOSAL TO PROCEED TO SOMETHING THAT WOULD CRYSTALLIZE IN A WRITTEN FORM, THAT WOULD BE ADOPTED BY DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL. I HAVE TO GIVE YOU THE BEST ADVICE I CAN, AND I WOULD SPECULATE THAT WE WOULD SEE A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE VILLAGE, VERY POSSIBLY BEFORE ANY SUCH THING WAS EVEN ADOPTED. SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THOSE THINGS
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OUT THERE TO YOU CONCERNING THAT. SO IT WOULD IT WOULD NOT BE LONG AND DRUG OUT. IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE COMING TO THE VILLAGE VERY QUICKLY AND EMINENTLY SO. IN OTHER WORDS.IN OTHER WORDS. PUTTING ANYTHING ON IT WOULD BE AGAINST 180. THAT'S CORRECT, I BELIEVE SO. OKAY. NOW AS TO THE LANDOWNER THAT WANTS TO BUILD SOMETHING NO MATTER WHAT IT IS.
IF WE ARE STOPPING THEM FROM BUILDING, THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SUE US, CORRECT? THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. OKAY. SO AS A VILLAGE, WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT. I'M SURE. MICHAEL BRING IT UP IN HIS BUDGET THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO PAY A LAWYER FOR A LAWSUIT. I'VE GIVEN YOU ALL MY BEST ADVICE AS TO THAT. OKAY, NOW. THERE'S TWO PIECES IN PARTICULAR. THAT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. COULD YOU PUT A CHEMICAL PLANT ON THAT PROPERTY? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL GENERALLY WITHIN THE VILLAGE. HEAVY INDUSTRIAL LOTS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE VILLAGE BOUNDARIES AS A PERMITTED USE, AS I AS I RECALL. COULD DOW CHEMICALS COME IN HERE AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO PUT A CHEMICAL PLANT IN THERE? TO THE BEST OF MY RECOLLECTION, I THINK SO, YES. OKAY. COULD A STEEL MILL COME IN AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO PUT ANOTHER STEEL MILL IN THERE? YES, I BELIEVE SO, YES. CAN A DATA CENTER COME IN AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO PUT A DATA CENTER IN? IT'S A PERMITTED USE. IT'S PERMITTED. SO IT'S PERMITTED USE. SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TRYING TO GO AGAINST THE LEGISLATURE AND AND SAY THE LEGISLATURE, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR HOUSE BILL, THE SAME LEGISLATURE THAT'S GIVEN US OVER $120 MILLION. AND WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE. WE'RE NOT WEST PALM BEACH. WE DEPEND. WE'RE LIVING ON THOSE GRANTS. IF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, THE RESIDENTS HAD TO PAY THE $120 MILLION THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE WATER. IT'D BE 100 YEARS BEFORE THEY HAD CLEAN WATER. YOU'RE RIGHT. I'M RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. MY, MY, MY EXPERIENCE WHEN LOCAL GOVERNMENT GOES AGAINST THE STATE OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE FIRST THING THEY LOOK TO DO IS WITHHOLD FUNDING. OKAY. SO YES, IT'S IT'S IT'S, IT'S CAMPAIGN SEASON. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HERE. YOU KNOW, CAMPAIGN IS CAMPAIGN. I'M GOING TO TELL THE TRUTH TO THE PEOPLE. OKAY? AND. I'M GOING TO SAY IT. I WAS SAVING IT FOR MY EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE I GOT FIVE EVENTS THAT I HAVE PLANNED FOR THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING. AND I KNOW THAT DATA CENTERS ARE GOING TO COME UP.
AND I CAN TELL YOU, I WENT AND VISITED DATA CENTER. HAS THERE BEEN A MOTION ALREADY? EXCUSE ME. THEY'RE SPEAKING. IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO OUTSIDE MOTION. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT MAKING A MOTION. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM DIRECTION TO PUT IT ON. NO, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS. SO I VISITED A DATA CENTER IN TENNESSEE. IT'S ONE OF THE LATEST AND THE GREATEST. AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU. AND THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE WITH ME. AND THE LOUDEST THING ON THAT CAMPUS WAS A WEED WHACKER AND A LAWN MOWER. WHEN WE GOT INTO THE DATA CENTER, WE WENT INTO A CONFERENCE ROOM. THERE WAS NO BUZZING, THERE WAS NO NOISE. THERE WAS NO NOTHING. WE WERE JUST TALKING, JUST LIKE REGULAR TALKING. AND I GOT TO TALK TO ONE OF THE. COUNTY. I THINK SHE WAS A COMMISSIONER, AND SHE EXPLAINED WHAT THAT DATA CENTER DID FOR THAT COMMUNITY, WHICH WILL AMAZE YOU. SO BEYOND THAT, I WENT DOWN INTO THE BEDROOM WHERE THE WHERE THE COMPUTERS ARE. AND WE WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FLOOR. YES, THERE WAS FANS GOING AND THERE WAS AIR EXCHANGE GOING. AND THIS DATA CENTER DOESN'T USE ANY WATER.
IT DOESN'T USE ANY WATER. ZERO. IT'S IT'S A REFRIGERANT AND A HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN IT WITH SOME KIND OF A AN ALCOHOL BASED LIQUID. AND IT RECYCLES THE AIR. AND IT WAS REALLY, REALLY COOL
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BECAUSE I WALKED THROUGH THE COLD SECTION, I WALKED THROUGH THE HOT SECTION. AND THEN BEING WHO I AM, I DON'T WANT TO BE DUPED. SO I ASKED THE MANAGER, I SAID, HEY, LISTEN. I PULLED HIM ASIDE AND SAID, HEY, LISTEN, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE IS THIS DATA CENTER RUNNING AT RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE WHEN YOU START A CAR UP AND YOU LET IT IDLE, YOU CAN'T HEAR IT. BUT WHEN YOU SCREAMING DOWN THE HIGHWAY, IT'S PRETTY LOUD, RIGHT? SO HE SAID, I DON'T KNOW, PROBABLY BETWEEN 90 AND 95%. I SAID, SHOW ME. I WANT TO SEE IT. AND HE DID. AND AT THAT CENTER WAS RUNNING BETWEEN 95 AND 97% POWER. SO THEY HAD A BEAUTIFUL CAFETERIA. SO THEY HAVE PEOPLE WORKING THERE. AND THEN WE GOT IN THE CAR AND WE HAD LIKE FIVE HOURS BEFORE A FLIGHT BACK, AND WE WENT AND KNOCKED ON DOORS TO THE NEIGHBORING, TO THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY, WHICH GENTLEMAN WE SPOKE TO, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 75 YARDS AWAY FROM THE DATA CENTER WASN'T VERY FAR.AND HE HAD A NICE DOG THAT I GOT TO KNOW, AND I LIKED THAT LITTLE DOG. BUT HIS ONLY PROBLEM WITH THE WHOLE PROJECT WAS THE BLASTING, BECAUSE THEY HAD TO BLAST. SO DON'T. BELIEVE EVERYTHING THAT YOU READ. YOU GOT TO LOOK AT IT FROM 30,000FT WHERE YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING.
OKAY, THE UNITED STATES AS A COUNTRY, WE'RE IN A RACE WITH CHINA, OKAY? IT'S A FACT THAT CHINA WANTS TO BEAT US ON THIS AI. SO THEY'RE PUTTING ALL THE STUFF OUT THERE. GO LOOK FOR YOURSELF. YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THE WHO THE PROFESSIONALS ARE AND WHO ARE NOT WHO WHO ARE SELF-MADE PROFESSIONALS. I WENT TO SEE WHAT I WENT TO SEE, AND IF THAT IS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, THEN I THINK YOU ARE SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY FROM THIS CROWD, SOMEBODY FROM THE NAYSAYERS. YOU COME TO ME AND I'LL SEE IF I CAN GET YOU IN THERE AND I'LL TAKE YOU THERE MYSELF, BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING. NOW, THERE MAY BE DATA CENTERS SOMEWHERE IN VIRGINIA THAT USE A TON OF WATER. I DON'T KNOW, BUT THERE COULD BE 10 OR 15 YEARS OLD TO.
SO. I DON'T WANT. THIS VILLAGE TO GET INVOLVED IN A LAWSUIT THAT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY. PEOPLE LIVE ON THE OUTSKIRTS DON'T HAVE TO PAY IT. PEOPLE HAVE TO LIVE HERE THAT LIVE HERE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY FOR IT. BUT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR MONEY. MA'AM, YOU CANNOT. MA'AM. EXCUSE ME. THEY HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. WE ARE TAPING THIS MEETING. SO YOUR COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE. WE WOULD PREFER YOU DIDN'T DO THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BUT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I LEARNED A LONG, LONG TIME AGO. THERE'S ONE SIDE OF THE STORY. THERE'S ANOTHER SIDE OF THE STORY. AND SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE IS THE TRUTH. OKAY. AND I WOULD REALLY I PAY FOR MYSELF. I PAID FOR MY OWN TRIP. WE PAID MY OWN HOTEL, PAID FOR ALL THE STUFF THAT WE DID. I DIDN'T ASK THE VILLAGE FOR A NICKEL. AND I WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE SOMEBODY THAT HAS AN OPEN MIND IS GOING TO BE HONEST ABOUT IT. I WOULD TAKE THEM TO TENNESSEE AND I WOULD TRY TO GET THEM IN THERE AND AND SEE WHAT IT REALLY, REALLY IS. BUT THIS COUNCIL CANNOT, CANNOT PUT THIS VILLAGE IN A COMPROMISE. OKAY? CAN'T DO IT. SO. WE GO FOR PUTTING A PAUSE. IT'S THE SAME THING. IT'S THE SAME THING AS SAYING YOU'RE PUTTING A REFERENDUM ON IT. YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T DO THAT. WE CAN'T DO THAT. WE CAN'T. YOU WANT TO SHAKE YOUR HEADS. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I CAN DO. I HAVE TO GO TO BED AND SLEEP AT NIGHT. OKAY? AND I'VE ALWAYS DONE THE RIGHT THING. I'VE ALWAYS DONE THE RIGHT THING. AND I CANNOT PUT THE PUT THE PEOPLE OF THIS VILLAGE IN A PLACE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE PAYING SOMETHING FOR DECADES THAT, AT
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THE END OF THE DAY, IS NOT WORTH IT, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER. SO AND THEN ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S A IT'S A TWO PUNCH KNOCKOUT HERE. ON THE OTHER HAND, WE'RE GOING TO SEND A MESSAGE TO TALLAHASSEE THAT WE DON'T CARE WHAT THEY SAY. OKAY. AND WHEN WE PUT IN FOR THOSE GRANTS THAT ARE HELPING BUILD THIS VILLAGE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS VILLAGE AND ACTUALLY PAY TAXES IN THIS VILLAGE, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO LOSE OUT.I GOT A CALL THIS MORNING. I CHAIR THE THE MPO UNDERPRIVILEGED TRANSPORTATION, AND I GOT A CALL BECAUSE THEY HAD TO MOVE A MEETING UP BECAUSE THE STATE CUT OUT $755,000 AND KILLED THAT PROGRAM. OKAY. AND YOU SAY TO YOURSELF, OKAY, THE STATE'S CUTTING A LOT OF PROGRAMS, BUT THE STATE GAVE US JUST GAVE US 48, $46 MILLION, PLUS ANOTHER 11 MILLION FOR FIRE STATION, PLUS ANOTHER 8 MILLION. OKAY. THE STATE WANTS TO SEE US SUCCEED. OKAY. I CANNOT PUNCH THE STATE AFTER SPENDING ALL THESE YEARS OF BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE AND GOING TO TALLAHASSEE AND WALKING THOSE CORRIDORS AND BEGGING FOR MONEY, I CANNOT TURN MY BACK ON THOSE LEGISLATORS AND SAY, WELL, I DON'T CARE OF YOUR SB 180. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT. I'M GOING TO DO WHAT I WANT. SO I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THIS. AND I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT. I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THE CITIZENS OF THE VILLAGE. I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT MY CAMPAIGN. I CAN SIT UP HERE AND SAY, YEAH, LET'S DO IT, OKAY, AND GET REELECTED. I DON'T WANT TO GET REELECTED LIKE THAT. I WANT TO GET REELECTED BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU THE TRUTH AND I'M WORKING FOR YOU, THE RESIDENTS, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE WITHIN THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. SO I'M NOT GOING TO BUY ALL THAT, THAT IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR AND ALL THAT. I'M NOT GOING TO BUY IT. THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN IS NOTHING. OKAY? THE MAN, THE PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO TO BUILD ON THEIR LAND.
IT'S HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. OKAY. AND DON'T BLAME THIS COUNCIL BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL DID NOT DO THIS. DON'T BLAME THIS COUNCIL FOR THE ELDERS, BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL DID NOT MAKE THOSE ELDERS UP. OKAY, BLAME YOUR FIRST MAYOR. BLAME YOUR FIRST COUNCIL BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ADOPTED WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. AND THIS VILLAGE HAS BEEN SO BUSY DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING. EVERY DAY I WALK INTO THIS OFFICE AND EVERYBODY, WE'RE UNDERSTAFFED, UNDERPAID AND WORKING HARD. AND I SEE THAT EVERY DAY I WALK IN HERE AND EVERY DAY I'M OUT ON THE STREET. I SEE THOSE GUYS IN 104 DEGREE WEATHER OUT THERE, DIGGING HOLES, TRYING TO FIND LEAKS. SO THAT'S THE TRUTH. AND IF I, I AM RUNNING AGAIN. I WANT TO WIN ON THE TRUTH. I DON'T WANT TO WIN BECAUSE I LIED TO YOU. AND THAT'S THE BEST YOU CAN DO. AND I SUGGEST TO OUR COUNCIL THAT THIS BE TABLED AND THAT BE THE END OF IT BEFORE YOU TABLE IT. WE'RE HAVING A MEETING. RIGHT. COMMUNITY MEETING? YES. I ASKED I SENT AN EMAIL ASKING FOR YOUR PREFERENCE ON A DATE OF EITHER AUGUST THE 1ST OR AUGUST THE 8TH. LET'S SET UP A DATE. LET'S HAVE A TOWN HALL. LET'S HAVE EXPERTS, REAL EXPERTS TO I DON'T CARE IF IT'S PRO OR CON.
THEY ALL NEED TO BE HERE. YES, AND PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ASK WHAT THEY WANT TO ASK. THE BEST THING WE CAN DO, I'M GOING TO BEG TO DIFFER WITH YOU. THE BEST THING WE CAN DO FOR OUR CITIZENS IS LISTEN TO THEM AND GIVE THEM FACTS. YES, MA'AM. I DON'T HAVE THE FACTS, BUT THERE ARE EXPERTS WHO DO, AND WE NEED THAT. AND I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THEM TO. THAT'S WHY I NEED TO GET A DATE SO I CAN CIRCLE BACK AROUND AND SECURE THEM TO BE HERE. BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING TO DO IT ON A SATURDAY. YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE OUT OF THEIR WILLINGNESS TO, TO WORK WITH US TO BE HERE. SO OKAY, I CAN DO ANY DAY. JUST TELL ME WHAT DAY ME TO EITHER THE WELL FIRST OR THE EIGHTH, WHATEVER WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. WHATEVER YOU WANT. THE EIGHTH. OKAY, OKAY. I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT I DIDN'T PUT THIS IN BECAUSE I'M RUNNING FOR OFFICE FOR MY SEAT. I PUT THIS IN BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT MADE SENSE FOR US NOT TO HAVE THE PRESSURES OF APPLICATIONS DURING THIS TIME, AND FOR APPLICATIONS TO BE SITTING ON BRAND NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS DESKS.
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IF WE ARE NOT REELECTED FOR SOME REASON THAT HAVE NO EXPERIENCE MAKING THESE DECISIONS, I FELT LIKE IT WOULD GIVE A FEW LIKE A MONTH AND A HALF FOR THEM TO CATCH UP AND BECOME FAMILIAR WITH. I AM NOT TRYING TO SLAP THE FACE OF THE GOVERNOR. I COULDN'T SAY I APPRECIATE THEM MORE OR ANY OF OUR LANDOWNERS. I WOULD JUST BECAUSE OF THE TIMING, WOULD LIKE TO SEE US NOT BEING TAKEN, NOT HAVING THINGS COMING ON OUR DESKS DURING THIS TIME, AND THEN IF WE AREN'T REELECTED, I'M NOT GOING TO ASSUME THAT I'M GOING TO GET REELECTED. IF WE AREN'T REELECTED, I DON'T THINK THE FIRST THING THAT THE NEW COUNCIL DOES SHOULD BE DECIDE ON A DATA CENTER WITHOUT ANY INFORMATION THAT I SIMPLY WANTED. A VERY BRIEF 90 DAYS FLIES BY. WE ONLY HAVE 40 DAYS TILL THE ELECTION. I SIMPLY WANTED A VERY BRIEF PAUSE THAT I WAS HOPING THAT THE GOVERNOR WOULDN'T NOTICE. WITH ALL THE CHAOS GOING ON, AND IT WOULDN'T GET US IN ANY TROUBLE, THAT WE COULD JUST GET THE INFORMATION. BECAUSE NOW, NOW THE MEETING IS GOING TO BE MOVED BACK TO AUGUST THE 8TH. THE ELECTION IS THE 18TH. THE LAST THING THAT SHOULD HAPPEN IS FOR NEW PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING, IF THEY ARE PLACED INTO OFFICE, TO ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING ON THEIR DESK TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WITHOUT THE INFORMATION THEY NEED. SO THAT I WAS THINKING THAT NOT DOING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO CREATE A HUGE ISSUE, BUT JUST GIVE US JUST A BIT OF BREATHING ROOM DURING THIS REALLY DIFFICULT TIME UNTIL WE CAN GET THE FACTS OUT. I'M HOPING THAT THE PEOPLE RUNNING FOR OFFICE AGAINST US WILL BE AT THESE MEETINGS AND BE ABLE TO GET SOME INFORMATION, BUT I REALLY, FOR ME PERSONALLY, IF I WERE RUNNING AND I HAD NOT SAT IN THIS SEAT, I WOULD NOT WANT THAT DECISION. MY FIRST MEETING, I REALLY WOULDN'T. AND I'M THINKING THAT FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY, THEM NOT HAVING TO MAKE THAT DECISION ON THEIR FIRST OR SECOND MEETING IS IS LOGICAL. SO THAT WAS ALL I WAS DOING. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THE GOVERNOR HAS DONE. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO PUT THAT THAT HARD TRUTH OUT THERE. AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT'S A HARD TRUTH TO DO. MY POINT IN THIS WAS JUST TO GET EVERYTHING, GET OUR DUCKS IN A ROW, AND, AND NOT HAVE THE BURDEN OF AN APPLICATION BE THE FIRST THING NEW PEOPLE LOOK AT. TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T WANT THE FIRST THING I LOOK AT AFTER THE ELECTION. IF I DO GET REELECTED TO BE THIS DECISION, I WANT A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM TO GET BACK IN, FIGURE OUT WHO THE NEW MAYOR IS GOING TO BE, FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, REGROUP AND DECIDE, YOU KNOW, BE READY FOR WHAT'S ON OUR TABLE. THAT IS WHY I PROPOSE THIS. I APPRECIATE MR. VOSS. I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS GOING TO SAY. HE IS 100% CORRECT, BUT I WAS KIND OF HOPING THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE, THE LANDOWNERS, MIGHT UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A LOGICAL MOVE TO MAKE, JUST TO GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY. AND ANY OF YOU LANDOWNERS OUT THERE LISTENING, THIS IS TO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REGROUP, SETTLE IN AND MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS. MY MOTION STANDS. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SECOND, FINE. IF NOT, WE CAN. YOU CAN ALL VOTE NO. AND THAT'S THAT'S FINE AS WELL. BUT I FELT ON MY HEART THAT I NEEDED TO TRY TO GET SOME SORT OF A LEVEL GROUND FOR US TO PLAY FROM, AND THAT'S WHY I MADE THIS. I'M YOU'RE GOING TO ELECT ME ON MY WHAT I'VE DONE HERE OR YOU'RE NOT. THIS ISN'T GOING TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE FOR ANYBODY. BUT IT MIGHT MAKE THE DIFFERENCE FOR THE OVERALL BENEFIT OF THE COUNCIL AND THE PEOPLE. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, IF I MAY, PLEASE, HAVING EXPERIENCED LAWSUITS MYSELF IN MY PREVIOUS CAREER, I THINK THE FACT THAT MR. VOSS HAS BEEN PUT ON NOTICE, IF YOU WILL, THAT THAT DOES PUT US IN A PRETTY COMPROMISED SITUATION. YES.OKAY. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S. IN MY PREVIOUS CAREER, THE FIRST DAY I PUT THAT UNIFORM ON AND I WALKED OUT OF MY HOUSE, SAID TO MYSELF, THIS MIGHT BE THE DAY I HAVE TO TAKE SOMEBODY'S LIFE, OR THIS MIGHT BE THE DAY THAT SOMEBODY TAKES MY LIFE. BUT IT DIDN'T STOP ME FROM GOING TO WORK. STOP ME. IT DIDN'T STOP ME WHEN THE GUY TRIED TO KILL ME OUT THERE IN PORT MAYACA, AND WE HAVE A FORMER CAPTAIN RIGHT HERE IN THE ROOM. I DIDN'T STOP FIGHTING, I KEPT FIGHTING, I KEPT FIGHTING, KEPT FIGHTING, KEPT FIGHTING. I KNEW, AND I SAID TO MYSELF, IF I'M GOING TO DIE TODAY, WELL, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. BUT HE'S COMING WITH ME. AND YOU JUST FIGHT AND PEOPLE LIKE US TO DO THIS JOB. AND THIS IS NOT EASY UP HERE. IT'S REALLY NOT EASY. THERE'S A LOT OF COMPONENTS TO THIS. OKAY? EVERYBODY THINKS THAT YOU COME UP HERE AND YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION BASED. YOU CAN'T MAKE IT BASED ON ON YOUR FEELINGS. YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND YOU CANNOT COMPROMISE THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, WE WANT A LOT OF THINGS FOR THIS
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COMMUNITY, A LOT OF THINGS. IT NEEDS A LOT OF THINGS. IT DESERVES A LOT OF THINGS. THERE ARE THINGS THAT THIS COMMUNITY WOULD NEVER EVEN DREAM OF HAVING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, AND I'M FIGHTING FOR IT EVERY DAY. THESE GUYS ARE UP HERE FIGHTING FOR IT EVERY DAY. MY FELLOW COUNCILMEN, YOU KNOW, AND AND I THINK OVERALL, ALL IN ALL, YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT WE'VE HAD TO WORK WITH, WE'VE BEEN PRETTY LUCKY. WE'VE BEEN PRETTY LUCKY THAT WE HAVE NOT ONLY A COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE, BUT WE'RE LUCKY THAT WE HAVE THE VILLAGE MANAGER THAT WE HAVE AND THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE. AND IT TAKES A LOT. IT'S NOT EASY BEING UP HERE. EVERYBODY THINKS IT'S EASY TO BE. YOU CAN SIT UP HERE AND. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YOU GOT TO CONSIDER, AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT YOU HAVE TO DO, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED THAN EVERYBODY ELSE BECAUSE I'M RETIRED AND I CAN DO IT. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS SEARCHING FOR JOBS FOR INDIAN TOWN. I'M ALWAYS GOING TO I MEAN, IT'S NO SECRET I TOOK TEARING DOWN TO, TO, TO, TO. WHERE DO WE GO TO? IT WAS A MANUFACTURING COMPANY THAT MAKES MAKES THESE AIR VENTS. NO, I KNOW WHAT THEY MAKE. BUT WE WERE I DON'T REMEMBER THEIR NAME. YEAH, BUT NO, NO AIR METHODS. BUT THEY MAKE SPECIALTY AC GRADES FOR HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS AND HIGH RISES. THERE'S 140 JOBS THERE. WE WENT DOWN THERE AND VISITED, TALKED TO THEM IN THE FOLLOWING WEEK. THEY'D COME UP, THEY CAME UP HERE AND WE DAVID AND I GAVE HIM A TOUR OF INDIANTOWN. AND I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO COME LAST CONVERSATION WITH THEM THAT I HAD. THEY WERE GOING TO COME. SO THERE'S 140 JOBS. THEY'RE NOT HIGH PAYING JOBS, BUT THEY'RE NOT MINIMUM WAGE JOBS EITHER. BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR A MOTHER THAT WANTS TO WORK PART TIME, THAT'S PERFECT, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S NOT EASY. IT'S HARD. AND I WANT SO MUCH. AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY TO REALLY IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE OUT HERE. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO. DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS OF GETTING THERE. MAYBE MY WAY ISN'T THE SAME WAY YOUR WAY WOULD BE, BUT WE GOT TO WATCH OUT FOR THE VILLAGE, AND WE GOT TO LISTEN TO OUR ATTORNEY BECAUSE IF NOT, BAD THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN AND WE CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE THOSE BAD THINGS HAPPEN. SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. AND I MOVE THAT WE JUST TABLE THIS DISCUSSION AND MOVE ON. WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE, EXCUSE ME, IS DEAD BECAUSE ALL THIS CONFERENCE, ALL THE CONVERSATION. NO IT'S NOT. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY. MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND. OKAY, OKAY. OKAY. MAYOR, DIDN'T YOU SAY ARE WE. I MEAN, WE DON'T NEED A MOTION BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. THIS IS A DISCUSSION, CORRECT? YOU SAID THIS. WE JUST GOT TO GIVE HIM DIRECTION. NO, NO, IT. OKAY, LISTEN TO RHONDA. SHE'S TRYING TO SAY GO AHEAD. WAIT. YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR. SO COUNCIL MEMBER MADE A MOTION. Y'ALL DID HAVE DISCUSSION ON IT. BUT ULTIMATELY WHEN WHEN PUT TO IT BY THE CLERK, THERE WAS NO SECOND. SO THE MOTION FAILS. SO THE THE MATTER IS AT AN END RIGHT NOW. THERE'S NOTHING ON THE FLOOR. ALL RIGHT. ARE WE STILL WE CAN COMMENTS FOR COUNCIL EXCUSE ME. COMMENTS BY COUNCIL. ARE WE STILL THERE? WE'RE STILL THERE. ALL RIGHT.MISS NICKUM TALKED ABOUT FROM THE PODIUM. SHE TALKED ABOUT NO REPORTS. WHEN WE GO TO OUR MEETINGS, I GO TO MY MEETINGS, I GET REPORTS. I HAVE A COMING UP ON JULY 13TH. IT'S UNDERSTANDING PROPERTY TAX AMENDMENTS. AND THEN THERE'S A WORKSHOP THAT I WISH TO ATTEND.
IT IS AUGUST 13TH THROUGH THE 15TH. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DATA CENTERS, BIG DATA, BIG IMPACT CITY WORKSHOPS, HOW TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS, UNDERSTANDING THE RESIDENTS PERSPECTIVE ON GROWING SMALL CITIES, BIG IDEA LEADERSHIP LESSONS, SOCIAL MEDIA FOR THE CITY'S COUNCIL MANAGERS PARTNERSHIP, ONE TEAM AND YOUR BUDGET. THAT IS AT THE WORKSHOP FOR AUGUST 13TH
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THROUGH THE 15TH. MISS TERRY, CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE OR REPORT ON THE FERNWOOD FLOODING, ON THE FIRE FLOW OR WATER PRESSURE AND WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THE THE BILL OF SB 803, PLEASE? SURE. ON THE FLOODING ISSUE, MR. NOLAN AND OUR VILLAGE ENGINEER, MR. JENSEN, DID GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE SITUATION. THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING THE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTIES IN THAT AREA SURVEYED, SO WE CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE ELEVATION VARIANCES, IF YOU WILL. AND WE HAVE A DITCH THAT APPARENTLY THE VILLAGE DOESN'T OWN THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY THAT'S IN FERNWOOD OR RIVER OAK. IT'S IN FERNWOOD. OKAY. YES. AND SO WE ARE ASSESSING THE SITUATION. AND WE WILL WE WILL COME UP WITH A REMEDY OF SOME SORT.OKAY. AND THEN ON SENATE BILL, LET ME GO AHEAD ON SENATE BILL 380. I HAD ALLUDED TO THAT AT THE LAST MEETING. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WATER SOFTENERS AND PERMITS AND WHAT WE COULD PERMIT AND WHAT WE CAN'T PERMIT. SO WE'RE VERY AWARE OF IT. WE ARE WORKING WITH MARTIN COUNTY VERY CLOSELY. WHO'S YOUR BUILDING OFFICIAL THAT WE UTILIZE TO IMPLEMENT THOSE CHANGES THAT ARE GOING TO BE THAT ARE WENT INTO EFFECT JULY 1ST. SO WE'RE GOOD ON THAT FRONT. OKAY. AND THEN WHAT WAS THE OTHER THING? THE FIRE FLOW, FIRE AND WATER PRESSURE. SO WE DID HAVE AN INCIDENT ON FRIDAY NIGHT. WE HAD A HORRENDOUS STORM. THERE WAS A LIGHTNING STRIKE THAT HIT THE PLANT AND KNOCKED OUT A COUPLE OF CIRCUITS IN THE WATER WENT OFF WHEN WE GOT THOSE CIRCUITS REPLACED AND THE WATER PUMP CAME BACK ON. IT GOES UP TO FULL, FULL SPEED, AND THEN IT SETTLES ITSELF BACK DOWN. WHEN IT JUMPED TO THAT FULL SPEED, IT BROKE A WATER MAIN. THE. AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW, APPARENTLY SOCIAL MEDIA, WHICH I DON'T DO, BUT I HEAR ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, THAT BECAUSE FOLKS WERE CONGRATULATING THE EMPLOYEES FOR A JOB WELL DONE, FOLKS ARE SAYING, WELL, THAT'S THEIR JOB. WELL, IT IS THEIR JOB, BUT NOT AT ONE AND TWO IN THE MORNING WHEN THEY'VE BEEN HERE ALL DAY, DRIVING AROUND TRYING TO LOCATE AND THEY WERE ABLE TO LOCATE THE LEAK. IT WAS BACK IN THE COMMERCE PARK. THEY WERE ABLE TO FIX IT AND GET THAT WATER BACK ON. AND SO THEY DID A PHENOMENAL JOB. AND THESE ARE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE FAIRLY NEW. SO THEY'RE LEARNING A LOT.
AND SO THE WATER PRESSURE, YOU'VE ALWAYS HAD AN ISSUE WITH FIRE FLOW IN THE VILLAGE. I HAVE A REPORT BACK WHEN YOU ALL BEFORE YOU THEY ACQUIRED THE SYSTEM BACK IN JANUARY OF 2020.
THEY REFERENCED THE FIRE FLOW AND THE WATER PRESSURE AND THAT IT'S INSIGNIFICANT. WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPMENTS COME IN. WE HAVE ONE DEVELOPER WHO WANTS TO BUILD 40 HOMES, AND HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO PUT SPRINKLERS IN BECAUSE THE AREA WHERE HE IS, HE DOES NOT HAVE FIRE FLOW. AND SO THE FIRE MARSHAL REGULATES THAT. MARTIN COUNTY, BECAUSE WE'VE KNOWN YOU HAD THAT FIRE FLOW CONCERN BECAUSE THE PLANT IS AGED AND WITH MINIMAL IMPROVEMENTS MADE TO IT. WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL TANKER TRUCK HERE AT THE FIRE STATION. SHOULD AN EVENT ERUPT, THEN THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO RESPOND ACCORDINGLY. SO WE KNOW THERE'S A FIRE FLOW ISSUE.
WE'RE TRYING TO WE YOU KNOW, SOME ONE OF YOUR LOOPING PROJECTS ASSISTED WITH THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO DO MORE. IT'S THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GROUND IS AGED. SO AS TOM EXPLAINED IT TO ME, OUR ENGINEER, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A TWO INCH PIPE. AND OVER THE YEARS, THE CORROSION AND THE SEDIMENTS AND EVERYTHING THAT SETTLES IN THOSE PIPES, NOW YOU'VE GOT LESS THAN ONE INCH PIPE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT WATER THROUGH. SO IT IT IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM UNTIL WE CAN PUT IN NEW INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THAT'S GOING BACK PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, HOUSES AND TRYING TO BRING THIS SYSTEM THAT YOU ACQUIRED BACK UP TO SPEED WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. SO THE MONEY WE JUST RECEIVED. YES, MA'AM. IS THAT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE? NO, MA'AM. THAT'S FOR THE PLANT. GOING INTO THIS, THEY ESTIMATED THAT PLANT WAS GOING TO BE AROUND 60 MILLION. THE LATEST CONSTRUCTION PLANS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN IS HIGHER THAN THAT. AND SO WE HAVE LET THE STATE KNOW THAT THE MONIES WE RECEIVED SO FAR, WHICH WERE FANTASTIC, WEREN'T ADEQUATE. THE MONEY YOU'RE GOING TO NEED, PROBABLY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE A $50 MILLION PROJECT. SO WE'RE NOT DONE ASKING FOR MONEY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE CAN BRING THIS SYSTEM UP TO 2026. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW
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SYSTEM WITH OLD INFRASTRUCTURE TRYING TO PUSH WATER THROUGH. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE WE'RE IF THE PRESSURE INCREASES, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SPIGOTS EVERYWHERE. AND WE KNOW THAT.SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING INTO THIS WITH OUR EYES CLOSED. WE'RE VERY AWARE. BUT AND, AND WE WERE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE TEAM THAT WE HAVE HERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP PUSHING FORWARD. WE GOT TO GET THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. MY MY DESIRE IS, AND I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO MR. NOLAN ABOUT THIS, IS TO START FOCUSING ON A NEIGHBORHOOD. SO ONCE WE KNOW WE HAVE THE FUNDING, YOU CAN GO IN, YOU CAN DO THE ROADS, THE DRAINAGE, THE SIDEWALKS, THE UTILITIES, ALL THAT, AND REVITALIZE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. YES, THAT'S THAT WOULD BE MY GOAL. IF WE CAN FIND THE FUNDING, WE'LL FIND IT. YEAH, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL YIELD TO ANGELINA. I HAVE TWO COMMENTS. MY FIRST COMMENT. I JUST WANT TO THANK THE STAFF I KNOW AND COMMUNICATION FOR LETTING US KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING. THE STORM WAS REALLY BAD. AND SECOND, WITH THE RECENT ACCIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, WE HAD TWO DECEASED ON 609. I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PROVIDE QUARTERLY PUBLIC SAFETY UPDATES JUST SO THAT RESIDENTS ARE AWARE, OR EVEN EMAIL LIKE A BLAST AND IF POSSIBLE IN SPANISH AS WELL. YEAH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE MET MR. NOLAN MET NOT TOO LONG AGO WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ABOUT ENFORCEMENT ON 710 PARTICULARLY. AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND AREAS WHERE THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES CAN BE SAFE TO PULL OVER ON THE ROAD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF GUARDRAILS AND THERE'S VERY LITTLE. SO THEY ARE DOT WAS BROUGHT IN AS WELL. MPO IS, IS, IS IDENTIFYING SPOTS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE CUTOUTS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE ROAD SO THAT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OR ANY BROKEN DOWN VEHICLES CAN PULL IN THERE. RIGHT. AND THAT WAS PART OF THAT. THAT'S IN THE WORKS THAT THEY WERE NOT AWARE THAT THAT WAS A CONCERN OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO, YES, I WILL REACH OUT TO SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND HAVE THEM DO QUARTERLY REPORTING. JUST LIKE YOU. WE HAVE FIRE RESCUE, WHICH WE'VE GOT THEM LINED UP. THEY THEY KIND OF FELL OFF OUR CALENDAR FOR A WHILE. YEAH. JUST SO YOU KNOW, I HAD A RESIDENT ASKED ME, SO THANK YOU. OKAY, OKAY. I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THE AGENDA ITEMS FOR COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY. THOSE WERE SUPPOSED TO GO OUT THE MONDAY. WHEN WHEN DO THEY GO OUT? BECAUSE I'VE HAD A LOT OF RESIDENTS SAY THEY COULDN'T FIND THE AGENDA ON THE VILLAGE WEBSITE OR THINGS WERE CHANGED. SO NO, I HAD CONVERSATION WITH WITH THE RESIDENT WHO INQUIRED ABOUT THE AGENDA NOT BEING PUBLISHED, AND SHE WAS LOOKING IN A DIFFERENT PLACE, NOT WHERE AGENDAS AND MINUTES ARE PUBLISHED. SO THAT WAS AND THERE WAS A SPOT ON THE HOME PAGE THAT HAD A CALENDAR. BUT THE CALENDAR DOES NOT HAVE THE AGENDAS AND MINUTES ON IT, BECAUSE OUR AGENDA AND MINUTES SYSTEM IS A DIFFERENT PROGRAM FROM OUR OUR WEBSITE. SO OUR WEBSITE IS RUN BY CIVICPLUS. OUR AGENDAS AND MINUTES ARE RUN BY GRANICUS. SO THE TWO IT DOESN'T SYNC ON OUR CALENDAR. OKAY, SO THE AGENDA AS AS WAS PUBLISHED, IT WAS PUBLISHED ON THURSDAY OF LAST WEEK BECAUSE FRIDAY WAS A HOLIDAY WELL OBSERVED AS A HOLIDAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARITY. QUESTION TWO COMES WITH THREE PARTS. WAS THE PZAB BOARD? WAS THE PZAB APPOINTMENT ELIGIBILITY CHANGED? SO CAN YOU CLARIFY? NO, THE THE RESIDENT ELIGIBILITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN WHAT COUNCIL WAS A YEAR PRIOR TO APPOINTMENT. SO THAT'S THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN SO. OKAY. WELL, I GUESS WHAT I'M WHAT I'M ASKING IS THE RESIDENT HAVE TO BE A MEMBER OF THE VILLAGE. THEY HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT FOR A YEAR PRIOR TO BEING APPOINTED.
THAT'S IN THEIR PCAB RESOLUTION. OKAY, SO WHAT ABOUT A HOME BUSINESS OR REGULAR BUSINESS? THE WAY YOU WOULD HAVE TO HELP ME ON THAT. THE THE BUSINESS MEMBER, THERE'S TWO SEATS FOR THAT. BUT YEAH, YEAH, I, AND I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE PARTICULAR ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF ME ON IT, BUT MY RECOLLECTION IS WE HAD FIVE SPOTS THAT WERE EXCLUSIVE TO RESIDENTS PURSUANT TO THE CRITERIA THAT LAUREN HAD JUST MENTIONED. AND THEN UP TO TWO
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MEMBERS OF THE P, Z A, B CAN BE CAN BE NONRESIDENT OWNERS OF BUSINESSES WITHIN THE VILLAGE.OKAY. SO DOES IT MATTER HOW LONG THEY'VE HAD THEIR BUSINESS, WHETHER IT'S A HOME BUSINESS OR I NEED TO TAKE A PEEK. I, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT AT THAT IN, IN A LITTLE BIT. I'D BE GLAD TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. OKAY, GREAT. ALL RIGHT. SO COUNCILWOMAN PHYLLIS ANSWERED, ASKED NUMBER THREE. SO MY FOURTH MY FOURTH QUESTION IS THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME NON CLARITY ABOUT BARBARA CLAUDIUS BEING THE PRIMARY PERSON. AND I THOUGHT WE HAD CAME TO A CONCLUSION THAT THAT STAYS WITH DEBBIE RUSSO AS THE PARK'S DIRECTOR. YES MA'AM. AND WELL, AND TONIGHT YOU HEARD COUNCILWOMAN ONSAGER TALK ABOUT THE YOUTH SPORTS ASKING FOR SOMEONE TO STEP UP. SO THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO THE MIX, IF YOU WILL. BUT THE THE FIELDS ARE TO BE MANAGED BY THE VILLAGE. OKAY. AND USE OF THE FIELDS. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. NOW WE WE HAVE NOT I SAID THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF I SAID IT LAST TIME, BUT WE, WE HAVE A A FOOTBALL TEAM, THE THUNDERBIRDS. SO WHEN WE START DIVVYING OUT OR GIVING MONEY OR EARMARKING MONEY, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT THE THUNDERBIRDS ARE ON THAT LIST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, BUT I'VE YOU KNOW, I THEY NEED TO BE ON THAT LIST.
OKAY. SO JUST FOR CLARITY, FOR EVERYBODY WATCHING, DEBBIE RIZZO IS THE PRIMARY HOLDER.
SHE SHE DIRECTS THAT AREA. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT, SO NOW THIS HAS BEEN ASKED THREE TIMES AND I'M, I'M, I WANT IMMEDIATE, IMMEDIATE WEIGHT. I WANT IMMEDIATE.
VERBIAGE ACTIVATION FOR THE RESIDENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THIS COUNCIL HAS NOT TAKEN A FORMAL MOTION ON THAT. OKAY, SO I'M STILL TALKING. I WANT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. WELL, LET ME FINISH. OKAY. SO I NEED TO MOVE TO MAKE I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION, AM I CORRECT? IF I CAN, YOU CAN PUT IT ON THAT. YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA. NO. WHAT FOR? FOR PREPARING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT WOULD NORMALLY BE DIRECTION FROM MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL. YEAH.
SO, SO ACTUALLY I DID GIVE YOU THE ANSWER ON THIS WEEKS AGO. I TOLD YOU THAT WE WERE WAITING UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION BECAUSE EACH OF THE PEOPLE THAT SIT UP HERE. PUT SOMEONE ON THE COMMITTEE, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR US TO HAVE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE A MONTH BEFORE AN ELECTION, WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE UP HERE. WELL, YOU KNOW, I DISAGREE WITH YOU, AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHY I KEEP HEARING, YOU KNOW, WHEN I GOT ON THIS COUNCIL, THINGS WERE STILL MOVING. SO WHEN I IF WHOEVER IF YOU WIN YOUR ELECTIONS, THAT'S GREAT. ANYBODY THAT'S RUNNING SHOULD KNOW WHAT THE ISSUES ARE. SO WHETHER THEY GET HERE, IF THEY DON'T KNOW, THAT'S SAD. BUT EVERYBODY ALREADY KNOWS WHO'S RUNNING WHAT THE ISSUES ARE. SO TO SAY, WE NEED TO KEEP WAITING AND WAITING AND WAITING. I DON'T I DON'T LIKE THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE MAYOR SAID, WHEN HE PUT ON THAT UNIFORM, HE COULDN'T GET READY. HE HAD TO HE HAD TO BE READY. SO I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I WANT WE WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND, AND GET IT SET UP. OKAY. LET'S LET'S JUST PUT LET'S PUT IT ON, ON, ON, ON THE NEXT AGENDA. BUT LET'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO GET THE SCOPE, YOU KNOW, OF IN THE PLAN. SO WE, WE NEED TO GIVE SOMEBODY SOME DIRECTION.
YEAH. AND AND THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT I THINK WHEN THIS ISSUE CAME UP, ONE OF THE TIMES PREVIOUSLY WHEN IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT THE QUESTION I HAD ON THE DIRECTION STAFF WOULD NEED IS, WHAT ARE THE DUTIES OF THIS ADVISORY BOARD? WHAT ARE THEY TO ADVISE ABOUT? WE HAVE A SCOPE OF DUTIES, SOME OF THEM STATUTORY, MOST OF THEM STATUTORY IN THE PG, A, B, RIGHT. AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD WITH A DISCRETE LIST OF DUTIES AS TO WHAT THEY ADVISE ABOUT THIS CONTEMPLATED RESIDENT ADVISORY BOARD. WE WOULD WE WOULD NEED. WHAT DOES IT ADVISE ON? BECAUSE I WOULD JUST OFFER, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, AND I THINK WE GOT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER CLARIFICATION PRIOR TO THE INCORPORATION OF THE VILLAGE. SUCH A THING EXISTED, BUT THAT WAS PRIOR TO THE INCORPORATION OF THE VILLAGE WHERE THERE WAS NO GOVERNING BODY FOR THIS AREA AND THIS AREA ALONE OF THE COUNTY. IT KIND OF SERVED THAT PURPOSE, NOT AS A FORMAL GOVERNING BODY, BUT AS AN ADVISORY BODY. SO. WE
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WOULD NEED SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT IS, BECAUSE THE ROLE WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT WAS PRIOR TO THE INCORPORATION OF THE VILLAGE. AM I WRONG IN SAYING THEY WOULD BE GOVERNED BY SUNSHINE? YES. THEY'D BE GOVERNED BY SUNSHINE.ABSOLUTELY. OKAY, SO SO THEY'D BE GOVERNED BY SUNSHINE. SO IS THERE A BETTER APPROACH TO WHERE THEY CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER AND HAVE THEIR MEETINGS, AND WHETHER THEY DO IT PUBLICLY OR, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN STILL ANNOUNCE IT, BUT AT LEAST THEY CAN SPEAK TO EACH OTHER AND BOUNCE IDEAS OFF OF EACH OTHER. IF THEY IF THEY'RE BOUND BY SUNSHINE, IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT. IS IT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE NAC THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADVISORY COMMITTEE, OTHER THAN THEY REPORTED TO THE COUNTY? SO THE RESIDENT ADVISORY BOARD CAN REPORT TO COUNCIL. IS THAT ANY DIFFERENT? I'M NOT DEEPLY FAMILIAR WITH THE THE NAC YOU'RE CORRECT. THE COUNTY HAD SEVEN CRAS WITHIN THE MARTIN COUNTY AND THEY ALL HAD AN N, A C, AND THE BOARD CHANGED THE STRUCTURE FROM THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. BEING THE CRA TO HAVING THE CHAIR OF EACH OF THE NACS THEN TAKE ON THAT ROLE. MY MY PLEA YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM MR. FLORIO ABOUT STAFFING. AND IF WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMITTEE LIKE THIS AND IT'S SUNSHINE AND WE HAVE TO DO MINUTES, WE HAVE TO DO AN AGENDA, WE HAVE TO DO THESE ITEMS. WE DON'T HAVE. WE DON'T HAVE THAT LEVEL OF I MEAN, WE'RE HERE. POOR MIKE, HE'S HERE TILL ALMOST 8:00 EVERY NIGHT. SO I JUST REALLY CONCERN ABOUT PUTTING ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS. I WISH IT I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF COUNCIL MEMBERS MADE THEM. IF PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE COMMENTS TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY MAKE THEMSELVES AVAILABLE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. I KNOW SOME OF YOU DO. YOU'RE IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU HEAR FROM FOLKS DAY IN, DAY OUT. YOU KNOW WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE TO PUT TOGETHER A FORMAL COMMITTEE.
THEN ALSO THE COMMITTEE MAKES A RECOMMENDATION AND YOU'RE NOT YOU DON'T WANT TO PROCEED DOWN THAT DIRECTION. THEN I JUST THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM. THE PCB IS NOT SO BAD. THEY WE USUALLY GET A QUORUM, BUT THE PRAB, WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE A QUORUM. SO I'M JUST THAT'S MY $0.02. I WOULD JUST THINK. I WOULD JUST THINK THAT IT WOULD BE SO MUCH EASIER. AND SO IT'D BE MORE EFFICIENT AS IF YOU HAD TERRA LAGO, YOU HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE FROM THERE. THEY PICKED THEIR PEOPLE THAT THEY WANTED ON IT. INDIAN WOULD HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE ON IT, AND THEY FORMED THEIR OWN ASSOCIATION. OKAY. AND THEY COME IN AND IDENTIFY THEMSELVES TO US. SO WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE. AND THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY DO. I MEAN, IT'S, I THINK SUNSHINE, IT PUTS A BURDEN ON EVERYBODY. SO I THINK YOU CAN GET MORE DONE WITHOUT SUNSHINE THAN YOU CAN WITH IT. SO I KNOW THAT BEING UNDER THE SUNSHINE LAW MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO COLLABORATE. AND I FEEL LIKE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE NEEDS THE ABILITY TO COLLABORATE. I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR YOU GUYS TO BE ABLE TO. SO MAYBE WE DO SOMETHING WHERE IT'S NOT FORMAL WITH THE SUNSHINE LAWS, BUT THAT THEY WE MAKE OURSELVES, LIKE WADE SAID, AVAILABLE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, STOPS YOU FROM WORKING WITH. CORRECT. YOU CAN GO WORK WITH THEM. WE JUST CAN'T. WE JUST CAN'T BE TOGETHER. RIGHT? YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN WE CAN BE INVOLVED, BUT NOT NECESSARILY ON THE. BUT HOWEVER, WE'VE GOT TO GET TO WHAT WE'RE DOING. I'D LIKE TO SEE A BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE TO, YOU KNOW, BE PART OF THAT. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'D LOVE TO HAVE. I DON'T WANT BEAUTIFICATION. YEAH. YOU WANT BEAUTIFUL. MAYOR. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. OKAY. WE'LL GET BACK WITH THAT ONE. WE'LL GET BACK WITH THAT WAY.
BUT I WANT I'M SORRY AND I'M REALLY SORRY TO BE A BROKEN RECORD. IF IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT STAFF TO DO ON THAT, WE'D NEED DIRECTION AND WE'D NEED OKAY. FOR YOU, FOR Y'ALL TO TELL US WHAT IS IT SUPPOSED TO DO? WELL, I DON'T THINK WE NEED STAFF TO DO ANYTHING.
STAFF IS MAXED OUT AS IT IS. I HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GET A PERSON FROM THE COMMUNITY AND A PERSON FROM THE COUNCIL TO GET TOGETHER AND FORM A COMMITTEE.
OKAY, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. AND IT'S ABOUT THE TRUST FUND. WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT? WELL, AS I HAVE COMMUNICATED BEFORE, APPARENTLY IT WENT TO THE PORPRAB THIS LAST MEETING AND THEY ASKED TO HAVE IT TABLED. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE SOME OF THEM HAD NOT HAD A
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CHANCE TO READ THE INFORMATION, AND SO THEY DID NOT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD MAKING A DECISION.RIGHT. UNINFORMED. IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN F, P AND L CAME TO US AND DECIDED TO EXTEND ANOTHER 30 YEARS, WE ALL TALKED ABOUT THE STRUCTURE OF THAT TRUST FUND AND HOW THOSE GRANTS ARE ADMINISTERED. AND SO THAT'S WHY THE AGREEMENT WAS MODIFIED. OOPS, SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DID THAT. SO THAT'S WHY THE GRANT WAS MODIFIED. AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE PRPRAB, WHICH WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY SHOULD, I BELIEVE, ADVISE YOU ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY AGREE WITH THE AGREEMENT OR NOT. AND THEN WE WOULD BRING THAT TO THE COUNCIL. OKAY. THAT WASN'T THE ORIGINAL THING BEFORE THEY EVEN CAME ON BOARD, BECAUSE I WAS THERE AT THAT MEETING. AND MISS NICKUM AND I, BECAUSE WE WE WERE WE WERE BOARD MEMBERS. SO WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING, THEN THE KNICKS, WE HAD HAD A CALL MEETING. WADE WAS THERE AND SAID THAT FPNL HAD HAD CHANGED STRUCTURE. THEY WANTED TWO OF THEIR MEMBERS. SO I SPOKE WITH JAMIE. HE WAS UNAWARE OF ANYTHING. MARSHALL AS WELL. SO I'M JUST I SPOKE WITH MARSHALL MYSELF TO TELL THEM BECAUSE THAT WAS ANOTHER THING HE, I, I EXPLAINED IT TO HIM. HE WAS NOT AWARE OF WHAT THE. SO I SENT HIM THE AGREEMENT SO THAT HE COULD SEE THAT IT HAD TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COACH N RIGHT PLAN. I SAID THAT TO SEE MY. MY ISSUE IS, IS THAT IF YOU GIVE US SOMETHING AND WE.
WE DO EVERYTHING THAT WE THAT THAT'S OUTLINED, THEN YOU COME BACK AND CHANGE IT. BUT WE HAD ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT ASKED FOR THE MONEY. WE WE DID THAT. WE DID ALL THIS LEGWORK. THEN FOR THEM TO COME BACK AND SAY, NO, WE WANT TO RESTRUCTURE. AND HERE WE ARE IN ALMOST AUGUST.
WHERE ARE THEY? SO SO ROB PACHECO NEM COULDN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE NO, THEY DIDN'T HAVE HAD WE HAVEN'T EVEN HAD A MEETING. SO I DON'T I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THIS LOOK IT DOES IT LOOK REALLY WONKY AND I DON'T LIKE IT. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US SOMETHING THEN GIVE IT. IF YOU STOP CHANGING STUFF AND THEN TELL US THE WAIT. NOW WE GOT THE COMMUNITY LOOKING AT US SAYING, BUT WHAT'S GOING ON? WE WERE TRYING. WE OUR ATTEMPT WAS TO MAKE THIS AGREEMENT A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE AND A PUBLIC USE PERSPECTIVE AND A PUBLIC PURPOSE PERSPECTIVE, A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR, BECAUSE SOME OF THE GRANTS IN THE PAST, QUITE HONESTLY, HAVE WERE NOT IN THE TRUE SPIRIT OF WHAT THAT AGREEMENT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.
FUNDING, AND THEREFORE, I BELIEVE AND AND MR. FLORIO AND I HAVE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT FROM THE EXPENDITURE OF PUBLIC FUNDS, WE NEEDED TO HAVE MORE PARAMETERS PUT ON THERE SO THAT THERE WAS THE ABILITY THAT IF SOMEBODY DIDN'T DO WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO, THEN THE VILLAGE WOULD NOT BE OUT OF THOSE FUNDS. AND THE REPORTING THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE, ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE REQUIRED THERE, IT PREVIOUSLY, SOME OF THE STUFF WASN'T DONE, BUT THEY GOT THEIR MONEY. OKAY. THERE WAS ONE ONE ENTITY THAT DIDN'T DO WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. AND IT WASN'T THE VILLAGE MONEY, IT WAS IT. BUT THE MONEY BELONGED TO THE COMMUNITY. ALL THE VILLAGE DID WAS MANAGE IT. AND IF I'M IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WHEN THE PEOPLE WENT THROUGH THAT AND MISS RIZZO WAS THERE AND SHE EVEN TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY. IT WASN'T FAIR THAT THESE PEOPLE DID EVERYTHING THAT WAS REQUIRED OF THEM. AND THEN TO HAVE LIKE, NO COMMUNICATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON. SO THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME BECAUSE THAT, THAT WE LOOK CRAZY ON THAT. SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THIS EXTRA STUFF IS COMING ON COMING FROM. WHY WOULD WE TAKE MONEY THAT WASN'T EARMARKED FOR VILLAGE USE? IT WAS FOR THE RESIDENTS. NO, MA'AM. IT WAS FOR VILLAGE PROGRAMS, NOT CAPITAL. OKAY. BUT THAT MONEY. BUT IT WAS FOR THE RESIDENTS TO APPLY. AM I CORRECT? OR ORGANIZATIONS? NOT NECESSARILY. OKAY. OUR ORGANIZATIONS. YES.
SO? SO HOW DID IT WIND UP IN THE BUDGET? WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR ANY FUNDS THAT WE HAVE. MR. FLORIO HAS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE INTEREST THAT'S EARNED, AS WELL AS THE MILLION DOLLARS THAT'S SITTING IN THAT TRUST FUND. IT'S IT'S VILLAGE MONEY THAT HAS TO BE. IS THAT RIGHT? I'M SORRY. THE INTEREST PART OF THE LOAN THAT HE PUTS INTO THE AM I CORRECT? SO THE REST OF IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOR THE PEOPLE THAT APPLIED FOR THE GRANT. WHAT WHAT I'M SAYING, TAMARA,
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IS THIS RIGHT HERE? IT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD FOR FOR A BOARD TO ALLOCATE MONEY GIVING DIRECTIONS. RIGHT. AND THEN THAT ENTITY COME BACK AND CHANGE IT. AND, AND THAT'S AND NOBODY STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. WELL, MY FINANCIAL BACKGROUND, I BELIEVE IT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT FOR US TO GIVE FUNDING TO ENTITIES THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY'RE UTILIZING IT IN THE WAY THAT IT'S TO BE UTILIZED AS A PUBLIC PURPOSE.OKAY. IT WAS ONE ONE GROUP, AND THEN THEY GAVE THAT MONEY BACK. THEY, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, YOUR MONEY WAS I'D BE HAPPY TO DO AN AGENDA ITEM. OKAY, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DEBATE THIS TONIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON. OKAY. LET ME, LET ME EXCUSE ME, LET ME SAY THIS. DON'T CUT ME OFF.
OKAY? BECAUSE THAT'S VERY DISRESPECTFUL. I HAVE A QUESTION. I WANT ANSWERS. YOU CAN'T JUST KEEP CUTTING PEOPLE OFF BECAUSE I'M READY TO GO. I'M READY TO GO. WE NEVER GET TO DISCUSS ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, TAMARA, IF IF I OFFENDED YOU, PLEASE FORGIVE ME, BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT I INTENDED TO DO. I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE THE QUESTIONS WAS ASKED OF ME. NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I DON'T WANT THIS BOARD TO CONSTANTLY KEEP CUTTING ME OFF. DON'T DISMISS WHAT I HAVE TO SAY, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE RESIDENTS FEEL THAT EVERY TIME THEY SAY SOMETHING, THEY'RE CUT OFF. DON'T DO THAT. LET ME FINISH BECAUSE EVERYBODY UP HERE TAKE THEIR TIME. THEY HAVE TEN, 15 MINUTES. THE RESIDENTS GET THREE. EVERYBODY HAVE TEN, 15 MINUTES TO SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT TO SAY. AND THEN WHEN I SAY SOMETHING, THIS IS A CONSISTENT THING. LIKE, NOW YOU'RE CUTTING ME OFF. I DON'T LIKE IT. THANK YOU. I'M DONE. YOU'RE DONE, I'M DONE. OKAY, ALRIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS BY VILLAGE MANAGER? NO. OKAY. APPROVAL OF AGENDA. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION
[1) APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
SECOND. I GOT A FIRST AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY, MR. FURRIER, IT'S ALL YOURS.[2) FY 2027 BUDGET PRESENTATION]
YOU GOT THIS. YOU GOT THE SHOW. THE SHOW IS ALL YOURS. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL MIKE FLORIO, FINANCE DIRECTOR. MIKE, ARE YOU DOING THE SLIDES? YES. OKAY, I HAVE I DIDN'T I HAVE THE REMOTE, I DO OKAY, I DO HAVE IT. YEAH. OKAY. SO I KNOW YOU'VE HAD SO MUCH EXCITEMENT HERE TONIGHT ON THE OTHER AGENDA. AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT BUDGET AND FINANCE. AND IT'S WE STILL HAVE SOME EXCITEMENT, YOU KNOW, NOT THE MOST EXCITING SUBJECT PER SE, BUT I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT. SO THIS IS KIND OF GOING BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR IN OCTOBER. THIS IS WHERE WE LANDED WITH THE FINAL ADOPTED BUDGET. WITH TOTAL FUND ALLOCATIONS. YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WE HAD A A DECLINE. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A DECREASE IN TAXABLE VALUES. IT WAS ABOUT 4% DECREASE. I REALLY, I REALLY STRUGGLED WITH BUDGET LAST YEAR, HONESTLY, PAINSTAKINGLY WITH CLAWING BACK. IT WAS OVER $200,000 REDUCTION THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR. AND IT WAS DIFFICULT TO GO THROUGH LINE BY LINE AND TRY TO FIND SAVINGS WHERE WE COULD. WE DEFUNDED SEVERAL POSITIONS THAT WE HAD BUDGETED IN PRIOR YEARS.YOU KNOW, IT WAS NOT IT WAS NOT A FUN EXERCISE, BUT IT WAS NECESSARY. WE GOT UNDER THE THE LIMIT AND THIS IS WHAT WE LANDED ON FOR TOTAL ALLOCATION. AGAIN, THE THE GENERAL FUND WAS AT A 1% INCREASE. UTILITY FUND WAS FIVE. AND THEN MOST OF THE STUFF THAT WE HAD WERE REALLY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. SOME OF THE THINGS I JUST. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THESE IN SUBSEQUENT SLIDES. LINCOLN STREET IN OSCEOLA AVENUE. THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN BUDGETING HERE FOR A FEW YEARS. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE MOVING AGAIN INTO SUBSEQUENT YEARS. THE LINCOLN STREET, I THINK BASED ON THE LAST CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE I GOT FROM PUBLIC WORKS, IS GOING TO BE MOVING TO FISCAL YEAR 27, 28 AND 29, AND THE OSCEOLA AVENUE WAS SLATED TO BEGIN EARLIER THIS YEAR. I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME DELAYS.
WE MAY YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOW IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THE FISCAL YEAR. THERE MAY BE SOME SPENDING ON THAT AND SOME WE MAY START CONSTRUCTION ON THAT THIS YEAR. BUT I WHEN WE WHEN WE PUT THE BUDGET TOGETHER, I'LL HAVE MY FINAL NUMBERS ON HOW MUCH OF THAT 844,000 WILL BE IN NEXT NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO WE'LL WE'LL GIVE THE COLLEGE GOOD OLD COLLEGE, TRY AGAIN NEXT YEAR IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES. AND WATER AND SEWER CIP, THESE ARE WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE THE LARGO WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WORK WITH FOREST MAINS LIFT STATIONS AND THE THE AREA NORTH OF THE VILLAGE HERE IN THE AREA. AND OF COURSE, BRAND NEW WASTEWATER PLANT THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WHICH I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE SEEN. IT'S COMING ALONG WELL. AND THEN WE HAD IN CURRENT YEAR THE SRF FUNDING FOR THE
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EXISTING WATER PLANT. I THINK, AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T SPENT THAT MUCH MONEY ON SRF THIS YEAR.THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PLANNING AND DESIGN WORK THAT HAS BEEN PUT INTO PLACE. THE SRF WATER PLANT IMPROVEMENTS. A LOT OF THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON THAT HAS BEEN, I THINK, WELL, FIELD REHABILITATION. THERE'S ABOUT, I THINK, A 1.7 PLUS MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT THAT'S ALREADY COME BEFORE COUNCIL THAT YOU ALL APPROVED FOR EMERGENCY WELL, FIELD REPAIRS WITH FLORIDA DESIGN DRILLING AND THE OTHER WORK THAT IS ALSO THROUGH DEP IS THE REVERSE OSMOSIS PLANT DEEP INJECTION. WELL, AND OUR AMENDED CIP. AND WE'LL LOOK AT THIS. THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST SLIDES, ABOUT 233 MILLION. BUT 105 MILLION OF IT IS NOT FUNDED. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. OKAY. OOPS. SKIP THE SLIDE THERE. JUST SOME HIGH POINTS HERE WITH GENERAL GOVERNMENT. YOU KNOW WE YOU KNOW OUR REBATE HERE. AND I THINK PEOPLE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WHEN WE GET AD VALOREM TAXES, WE DON'T KEEP IT ALL. WE KEEP WE HAVE TO SEND BACK FPNL. OUR TPW AGREEMENT WITH FPNL IS THEIR, I BELIEVE, THEIR LARGEST PARCEL, WHICH IS USUALLY VALUED AT OVER $1 BILLION A YEAR THEREABOUTS. WE REBATE 55% OF THAT AD VALOREM TAX. SO IT'S ALMOST 25% OF OUR AD VALOREM THAT WE REBATE TO TP TO FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT EACH YEAR. THIS YEAR IT WAS 762,000. LAST YEAR WAS A LITTLE OVER 900. BECAUSE WE HAD HIGHER REVENUES THE PRIOR YEAR WE HAD DECREASE. THIS YEAR, THE VILLAGE HALL DEBT SERVICE, YOU KNOW, RATES, INTEREST RATES HAVE CONTINUED TO WELL, THEY'VE BEEN STABLE LATELY, BUT THEY HAD DECREASED TO THE POINT WHERE IT MADE ECONOMIC SENSE TO RETIRE THE LOAN ON VILLAGE HALL EARLY, WHICH WE DID DO THAT ON MARCH 1ST. THAT'S TECHNICALLY STICKS OUT IN THE BUDGET THAT WAS NOT BUDGETED. WE DID USE RESERVES TO PAY THAT OFF, BUT THAT IS AN EXPENDITURE THAT WAS INCURRED.
THE VILLAGE HALL RENOVATIONS, WHICH ARE COMING ALONG NICELY. I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY BE DONE WITH THAT SOMETIME IN AUGUST. WE MAY BE HEADING BACK TO VILLAGE HALL BY JULY. IT'S IMPRESSIVE WORK. CONTRACTORS DO AN AWESOME JOB. WE'VE HAD REALLY GOOD PROJECT MANAGEMENT OVER IT AS WELL. SO GOOD JOB THERE. AND AGAIN, CURRENT YEAR WE'RE DOING SOME ROAD STRIPING, PUBLIC SAFETY. AND THEN GOING FORWARD WE'RE LOOKING AT PUBLIC WORKS, GENERAL CIP AND PARKS AND REC AT ABOUT 200 TO 300,000 A YEAR. OKAY. REVENUES BY LAW, YOU ALL MAY KNOW THIS, BUT WE ONLY BUDGET 95% OF THE TOTAL TAXABLE VALUE. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BUDGET MORE THAN THAT. SO OUR BUDGET WAS 4.18 MILLION AND WE COLLECTED 184, 41, 84. SO IT'S A TECHNICALLY 102%. SOME OF THE OVERAGE WITH THAT IS THERE'S ALWAYS A DELAY WITH CERTAIN DELINQUENCIES AND PRIOR YEARS PRIOR TAX ROLLS. AND SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF THE VALUE ADJUSTMENT BOARD.
THAT'S A PROCESS THAT THE CLERK OF COURT PROPERTY APPRAISER ADMINISTER EACH YEAR. I KNOW IT WELL. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN IT IN THE PAST, AND THEY USUALLY SETTLE OUT IN LIKE MAY JUNE WITH RELEASE OF ADDITIONAL OR I SHOULD SAY DELINQUENT OR HELD BACK TAXES. ONCE THOSE PETITIONS ARE SETTLED BY THE BY THE BY THE BOARD. SO WE USUALLY GET A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, LIKE 30, 40, 000 AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, AROUND THIS TIME OR JUST BEFORE. LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE ONE THAT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HAS TAKEN A HIT. YOU KNOW, WE WERE A FEW YEARS AGO OVER $300,000. THAT HAS DECREASED TO AGAIN, I BUDGETED 95000 WORTH 81,000 THIS YEAR. WE'LL PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, EXCEED THAT AMOUNT. BUT THIS WAS BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN THE COST ALLOCATION OR I SHOULD SAY THE ALLOCATION OF GAS TAX BECAUSE THE ROADWAYS, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. SO WHEN WE DO ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, WE GET THE BENEFIT OF ADDITIONAL DISTRIBUTION. YOU KNOW, SO IF WE'RE INVESTING IN OUR ROADS, IT HELPS IN OUR FORMULA BECAUSE THE FORMULA CHANGE FROM A TEN YEAR LOOK BACK TO A FIVE YEAR. AND BECAUSE THE VILLAGE. MOST OF THE WORK WE'RE DOING IS GRANT FUNDED, WE'RE NOT REALLY PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY IN THE ROADS OURSELVES. SO WE'VE HAD A DECREASE IN THE ALLOCATION AND GAS TAX BECAUSE OF THAT COMMUNICATION. SERVICE TAX IS A STATE REVENUE. WE'RE AGAIN ABOUT ON TARGET WITH THAT. AND BUSINESS TAX WHICH IS A VERY SMALL, YOU KNOW, IMMATERIAL REVENUE. I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I OVERSHOT ON THAT ONE THERE. I THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE TEN 000 REVENUE. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO MAYBE COME IN, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN HALF THAT BY THE END OF THE YEAR. SO I'LL HAVE TO ADJUST THAT NEXT YEAR. AND THAT'S AGAIN FOR PEOPLE OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING THAT THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR.
AND THAT MONEY GETS SENT TO US FROM THE TAX COLLECTOR. OKAY. THE SEMINOLE AVENUE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT PROJECT IS DONE, WE HAVE 620,000 IN GRANT REVENUE THAT WILL WE WILL BE
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REIMBURSED FOR AGAIN, THE PROJECT HASN'T STARTED. SO NO REVENUE THERE. STATE REVENUE SHARE, YOU KNOW ON TARGET WITH BUDGET. HALF CENT SALES TAX. YOU KNOW I THINK AGAIN WE'RE ALSO PRETTY MUCH ON BUDGET. WE'RE THREE QUARTERS OF THE WAY THROUGH THE YEAR. AND SOME OF THESE REVENUES ARE TECHNICALLY TRAIL MONTH BEHIND. SO WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE HERE OVERALL.DISCRETIONARY SALES TAX. SO THIS IS A HALF CENT THAT WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING SINCE THE REFERENDUM PASSED. I THINK THIS MONEY STARTED COMING INTO THE VILLAGE IN MARCH OF 25. AND IT'S FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND FOR ENVIRONMENTAL LAND PRESERVATION. THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT USES FOR THAT. SO AGAIN WE HAVE 882,000 IN CASH AVAILABLE. WE KEEP IN MIND WE DID SPEND 375,000 ALREADY, WHICH WAS FOR THE PARCEL BEHIND VILLAGE HALL, WHICH WAS REQUIRED THAT EARLIER THIS YEAR. SO THAT'S WHERE WE STAND WITH THAT. OKAY, SO THE BALANCE AFTER THE TWO IS THAT EIGHT. YEAH, EXACTLY. YEAH. THAT'S THAT'S THE BALANCE AFTER. CORRECT. THAT'S THE BALANCE AS OF RIGHT NOW. YEAH. THIS THIS SLIDE IS ACTUALLY MOBILITY FEES. THE BOTTOM THERE I, I MADE A, THAT'S A TYPO THERE. THESE ARE THE MOBILITY FEES. AND WE HAVE NEVER, WE HAVE NOT SPENT ANY MONEY ON MOBILITY FEES. MOBILITY FEES ARE FOR ROADWAY EXPANSIONS. ADDITIONAL INTERIM MOBILE. I FORGET WHAT THE TERMS ARE MOBILITY INTERMODAL TRANSPORTATION. THANK YOU.
INCREASING CAPACITY. THAT'S MY PULLING MY PUBLIC WORKS BACKGROUND OUT. SO INTERMODAL TRANSPORT, YOU KNOW, PATHS, BIKE LANES, THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MONEY, YOU KNOW, I GUESS CERTAIN INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS OR EXPANSIONS THAT WE COULD DO HERE IN THE VILLAGE.
THAT'S WHAT THAT'S FOR. WE'VE COLLECTED 1.2 MILLION. WE HAVE NOT SPENT ANY OF IT SO FAR.
OKAY. BUILDING PERMIT FEES. WE'RE REALLY ROCKING IT THERE. LAST YEAR WE HAD, I THINK ALMOST 1.35 MILLION. SO FAR, WE'VE EXCEEDED $1 MILLION IN COLLECTION. BUDGET WAS 800. SO WE'VE DONE VERY WELL. AGAIN, THEY'RE BUILDING OUT THERE IN TERRA LAGO. PERMITS ARE COMING IN. IT'S AN EBB AND FLOW. YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME MONTHS WHERE LIKE CRAZY HIGH BUILDING PERMITS COMING IN AND THEN OTHER MONTHS IT'S A LITTLE BIT SLOWER. BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE THIS TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, ACTIVITY FOR A LONG TIME. I WILL SAY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. AND WE'LL LOOK AT WHEN WE GET INTO EXPENDITURES. THEY ARE THEY ARE FULLY SELF-SUFFICIENT. YOU KNOW, FOR YEARS THEY WERE NOT THEY WERE REALLY KIND OF JUST A A PITTANCE, YOU KNOW, OF WHAT WE WERE COLLECTING. BUT THEY HAVE DONE REALLY JUST TREMENDOUS, TREMENDOUS WORK IN THAT DEPARTMENT. GIVE MISS FREEMAN AND STAFF A LOT OF CREDIT FOR WHAT THEY DO. THEY CRANK OUT INCREDIBLE AMOUNTS OF WORK FOR THE TEAM THAT THEY HAVE. DOES THAT INCLUDE THE 3% ADMIN FEE THAT WE COLLECT FOR THE ADMIN FEE? WE'RE WE'RE KEEPING THAT IN THE GENERAL FUND. THAT IS JUST THAT IS JUST THE THE BUILDING FEES. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. INTEREST EARNINGS TODAY, TOTAL BUDGET I BELIEVE WAS JUST OVER 400,000.
SO WE'VE EXCEEDED BUDGET ON INTEREST. THIS HAS REALLY BEEN A SAVING GRACE. I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN IT'S REALLY HELPED BUTTRESS SOME OF OUR REVENUE CHALLENGES OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. YOU KNOW, BEATING BUDGET ON THIS IS, IS A GOOD THING. AND IT'S VERY HELPFUL, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WE'RE GETTING GOOD RATES WITH WHERE OUR MONEY IS.
WE I WILL TALK TO YOU AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION ABOUT SOME OTHER POLICIES. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO AMEND. I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEED TO RESTRICT CERTAIN FUNDS SO THAT WE CAN GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OUT ON THE YIELD CURVE FOR INVESTMENT. I THINK THERE'S YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT SIX PLUS TO 12 MONTH PLUS INVESTMENTS SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE BASIS POINTS AND EARNING POWER FOR MONEY THAT WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND. WE NEED WE NEED TO DO SOME OF THAT. AND BUT WE'LL WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. OKAY. THIS IS OUR THIS IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE IN THE KITTY. AS OF JUNE 30TH, 21 MILLION. AND THAT'S THE ALLOCATION RIGHT THERE. SO WE HAVE 13 MILLION IN OUR WELLS FARGO MONEY MARKET ACCOUNT, WHICH IS A HAS AN AUTOMATED AUTOMATED SWEEP IN IT, THE FLORIDA PRIME, WHICH IS THE STATE BOARD OF ADMINISTRATION POOL 6.2 MILLION. WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ARPA MONEY LEFT, WHICH WILL BE SPENT POSSIBLY AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT DEFINITELY BEFORE DECEMBER, BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE ALL SPENT, THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. SO THAT IS MONEY THAT WE GOT IN 2021 AND 2022. IT WAS PART OF THE STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS ACT. IT WAS COVID. PART TWO IS WHAT IT WAS. IF I CAN GO BACK TO THAT TIME WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS SENDING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO HELP SUPPORT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WHO WERE KIND OF NOT REALLY WE THE COUNCIL HAD ESTABLISHED AN ENTIRE CIP OR IMPROVED POLICY
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BACK IN 2023, 22, 23, AND I WILL RECAP THIS AT SOME POINT. A LOT OF IT WAS DONE ON UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. WE BOUGHT A LOT OF EQUIPMENT OUT THERE FOR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. WITH THAT MONEY. SOME OF THE THE PARKS MASTER PLAN WE USED, WE PAID FOR THAT. WITH THIS MONEY, THE UPTOWN DRAINAGE DESIGN PROGRAM WITH KIMLEY-HORN, WHICH WAS COMPLETED. THAT WAS A 5050 GRANT MATCH. THAT WAS $700,000 DOT PAID 350. AND WE USED 350 OF ARPA MONEY. SO THERE WAS A LOT OF. WE GET THERE WAS A WHOLE PROGRAM FROM THAT TIME THAT WE. WE DID APPROVE AND WE'RE DOWN. WE'RE COMING DOWN, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THIRD BASE AND HOME PLATE ON, ON FINISHING WITH THIS MONEY. AND ALSO, I WILL SAY I'M VERY HAPPY ABOUT IT, BUT I GOT A CHANCE TO SIT AT THE TABLE ON THAT. AND ALL OF OUR TYLER TECHNOLOGY ERP SYSTEM WAS PAID FOR BY, BY ARPA MONEY. OKAY. SO IT WAS A GREAT DECISION TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY HELPED SET US UP LONG TERM. YEAH. OKAY. GOVERNMENT EXPENDITURES HERE, GENERAL GOVERNMENT, GENERAL GOVERNMENT IS KIND OF LIKE NON-DEPARTMENTAL. WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF THAT IS ALLOCATED THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE FINANCE OR ADMINISTRATION OR PARKS.IT'S REALLY LIKE RUNNING VILLAGE HALL, SOME OF OUR INSURANCE POLICIES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND OUR DEBT SERVICE. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT GENERAL GOVERNMENT BUDGET NUMBER ACTUAL SIX OUT VERY HIGH BECAUSE AS IT SAYS HERE ON THE SLIDE, ABOUT 1.35 MILLION, WE WE USE THAT TO PAY OFF TO PAY OFF THE DEBT. THE REST OF THE BUDGETS HERE ARE COUNCIL ADMIN AND FINANCE ARE TRACKING ALONG JUST FINE. ADMIN. THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN ACQUIRED YET. I THINK SOME SOFTWARE RENEWALS OR AGENDA SYSTEM GRANICUS THAT WILL. I THINK THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR RENEWAL IN THE FOURTH QUARTER HERE. SO THERE'S MONEY THAT WILL BE PUT FORTH ON THAT FINANCE. I'M A LITTLE HIGHER THAN AVERAGE BECAUSE I'VE HAD HONESTLY HIGHER AUDIT FEES. YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD SOME AUDITS. WE'VE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN BEHIND ON AUDITS AND WE GOT 24 AND 25 AUDITS DONE. SO I HAD HIGHER FEES IN FISCAL YEAR 25 THAN WHAT I TYPICALLY WOULD HAVE. BUT THAT'S DONE. SO I THINK OUR AUDIT FEES ARE GOING TO COME BACK DOWN TO EARTH A LITTLE BIT NEXT YEAR. AND AGAIN, THE NEXT AUDIT. I HAVE SOME INFORMATION FOR YOU ON THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING. AGAIN, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THEY ARE RIGHT ON TARGET WITH BUDGET FOR SPENDING. THEY PROBABLY WILL. THEY MAY COME IN A LITTLE BIT LOWER. WE'LL SEE. BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE PRODUCING TREMENDOUS, TREMENDOUS BUSINESS OVER THERE AND A LOT DOING REALLY GOOD WORK. OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE ALWAYS PRETTY CONSERVATIVE. THEY ARE IN BUDGET AGAIN AS THEY'RE THEY COMPLETED THE PLAYGROUND. YOU KNOW BOOKER PARK EARLIER THIS YEAR. THAT INCLUDES THE 250 THAT WAS SPENT FOR THAT ROAD AND STREET. ROAD AND STREET IS, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY BEEN UNDER BUDGET FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
AGAIN, THAT IS WHERE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SAVINGS, QUITE HONESTLY, BECAUSE OF CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN DELAYED BECAUSE OF REGULATION OR THE GRANT AGENCY OR CONTRACTORS OR WHAT HAVE YOU. SO A LOT OF THAT MONEY WILL PROBABLY NOT BE SPENT IN IN CURRENT YEAR. WE'LL SEE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF IT. AND WE ALWAYS DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY IN FOR STORMWATER, WHICH WE SET ASIDE FOR POSSIBLE DESIGN PLANS OR WORK THAT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR DRAINAGE. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE TEND TO PUT ROAD AND STREET AND DRAINAGE TOGETHER, BUT WE, WE, WE BUDGET ROAD AND STREET AND STORMWATER SEPARATELY HERE JUST SO WE CAN HAVE A SEPARATE IDENTIFICATION IF WE IN FACT USE IT. BUT MOST OF THE STUFF THAT WE DO FOR ROAD AND DRAINAGE DOES GOES INTO THE ROAD AND STREET DEPARTMENT. UTILITIES, WATER AND SEWER HERE.
THEIR BIGGEST CAPITAL PURCHASE THIS YEAR, AND IT WAS GRANT FUNDED WAS THE PURCHASE OF THE WASTEWATER BEAVER EAGLE WORKS MACHINE FOR 819,000. CAPITAL OUTLAY IN THEIR BUDGET WAS IMPACTED FOR 470,000. BUT AGAIN, IT WAS ALL ALL GRANT FUNDED THE THE SRF REIMBURSEMENT MACHINE FOR THE WATER PLANT. WE ALSO GOT REIMBURSED FOR THAT. THAT WAS ACTUALLY EXPENDITURE THAT WE INCURRED IN FISCAL YEAR 24. IT TOOK A WHILE TO WORK THAT THROUGH DEP AND STAFF AT THE SRF, BUT WE DID GET PAID FOR THAT. WE DO HAVE SOME UNBUDGETED STUFF WITH MASTER PLANNING THAT I THINK HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT DELAYED, AND WE'LL SEE HOW MUCH OF THAT WE SPEND IN CURRENT YEAR. AND AGAIN, EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT, DEBT SERVICE AND TRANSFERS. EVERY YEAR, THE UTILITY FUND TRANSFERS 150,000 TO GENERAL GOVERNMENT. THEY CALL THAT PAYMENTS IN LIEU OF TAXES. IT'S ESSENTIALLY AN ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT FEE. THAT'S A BARGAIN.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW, THEY, I THINK, HAVE A MUCH BIGGER IMPACT ON GENERAL GOVERNMENT THAN THAT. THAT'S A BARGAIN. I KNOW SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT THEY CHARGE THEIR UTILITY FUND A LOT MORE. SO THIS IS THIS IS AN ELEMENT THAT OVER TIME WE'LL HAVE TO
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LOOK AT. BUT WE'VE KEPT IT HERE. I MEAN, I SPEND PROBABLY HALF TO THREE QUARTERS OF MY TIME ON WATER AND SEWER ISSUES ALONE. THE VILLAGE MANAGER PROBABLY GOES WEEKS AND DOESN'T DO ANYTHING BUT WATER AND SEWER. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S REALLY WHAT DRIVES US EVERY DAY. OKAY. OKAY.AND THEIR REVENUES HAVE BEEN PRETTY SOLID THIS YEAR. AND WE'VE GOT SOME SUBSEQUENT SLIDES THAT WILL MORE GIVE EVEN BETTER VISUAL PICTURE TO THAT. THE WATER REVENUE COMPONENT, WATER RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, 90 PLUS PERCENT. AND I WILL SAY A BIG REASON FOR THAT IN, IN THE REALLY, SINCE I THINK LAST YEAR IS ON TERRA LARGO'S GOT A THREE INCH WATER METER THAT THEY'RE USING FOR IRRIGATION. IT'S A BIG METER THAT'S A BIG METER THREE INCH. AND THEY'RE, WE'RE BILLING THEM 20 GRAND A MONTH FOR THAT. SO THEY'RE ALL THEIR PLANTINGS AND ALL THE NEW, YOU KNOW, STUFF, VEGETATION THAT THEY'RE GETTING ESTABLISHED OVER THERE. WE'RE HEARING THEY'RE GOING TO SHUT IT OFF SOON BECAUSE THEY'RE DRILLING A WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN CANCEL THAT. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF SB 180 OR NOT. BUT I WOULD LOVE TO YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE, THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO BE A, A LITTLE BIT OF A PINCH IN THE UTILITY FUND BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY DOING WELL WITH THAT. THAT'S A, THAT'S BEEN A BIG BOON FOR THEM IN THAT, IN THAT DEPARTMENT AND WASTEWATER, AGAIN, DOING WELL WITH COLLECTION RATES ON THAT AND OUR COMBINED WATER AND SEWER, THAT'S LIKE OUR BILLING FEES, LATENT LATE FEES, DELINQUENCY FEES, TURN OFFS, AND CERTAIN CUSTOMER WORK ORDER TICKETS THAT ARE KIND OF REALLY NON ATTRIBUTABLE TO EITHER WATER AND SEWER THEIR COMBINATION. SO THAT'S WHY WE PUT THEM IN COMBINED WATER AND WASTEWATER. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S A GREAT GRAPH HERE. THIS IS LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR WE WERE KIND OF JUST SKIMMING ALONG.
YOU KNOW THE TOP GRAPH THERE SHOWS LAST YEAR WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE JUST JUST BARELY HITTING BUDGET MOST MONTHS. WE WERE JUST BELOW THIS YEAR. WE'RE SOLIDLY ABOVE BUDGET. BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WE FINALIZE THIS, THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR 2627 BUDGET, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE MAY HAVE A BIG USER THAT'S GOING TO FALL OFF OR, YOU KNOW, HAVE A LOT LESS, YOU KNOW, CONSUMPTION THAN THEY'VE HAD OVER THE PAST 12 PLUS MONTHS. I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT BASED ON OUR RESOLUTIONS THAT WE PASSED, YOU KNOW, WE, WE LOOK AND WE, WE TARGET OUR CONSUMPTION USER RATES AND FEES TO A WASTEWATER CPI INDEX. AND BASED ON THAT ANALYSIS, THE WATER AND SEWER RATES WILL INCREASE JUST UNDER 5% STARTING OCTOBER 1ST. SO THAT WILL BE ANOTHER RATE INCREASE IN OCTOBER. OKAY. WHOOPS. AGAIN, THE TOTAL OPERATING EXPENDITURES FOR WATER BELOW BUDGET SO FAR. SEWER AGAIN WE HAVE YOU KNOW IT'S SEWER IS OVER BUDGET RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE CAPITAL OUTLAY EXPENDITURE FOR THE BEAVER EAGLE WORKS MACHINE AND COMBINED WATER AND SEWER EXPENDITURES ARE RIGHT ON TARGET. UTILITY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. THIS IS OUR AND AGAIN, I WILL TOWARD THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR HERE, SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER, I'LL COME BACK WITH A FINAL BUDGET AMENDMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TRUE ALL THESE THINGS UP BECAUSE WE DON'T YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW HOW FAST THINGS ARE GOING TO GET BUILT, HOW QUICKLY THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. SO THE, THE WATER DEEP INJECTION WELL PROJECT, I ESTIMATED WE WOULD GET 10 MILLION IN REIMBURSED. WE'RE GOING TO EXCEED THAT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU SPEND THE MONEY, YOU GET THE MONEY. IT'S IT'S AN EQUAL EQUATION. SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A, YOU KNOW, A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO BALANCE REVENUE EXPENDITURES. THIS IS ALL THE PAYMENTS THAT WE GET FROM DEP FOR THE WORK THAT THE VIA THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH TERRA LAGO, BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE DOING ALL THE WORK OUT THERE, THE SEWER IMPROVEMENTS. WE'LL WE'LL AGAIN, WE'LL, WE'LL PROBABLY SPEND THREE QUARTERS OF THAT AMOUNT.
AGAIN, THAT WAS JUST AN ESTIMATE. I'LL HAVE TO I'LL HAVE TO TRIM THAT BACK. BUT THAT REALLY HAS NO CONSEQUENCE ON ANYTHING. AND THEN THE SRF WATER PLANT BUDGET. WE'LL SEE WHAT THE INVOICES COME THROUGH THROUGH SEPTEMBER. WE WILL PROBABLY BE GETTING INVOICES FOR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR UNTIL NOVEMBER. IT TAKES A COUPLE MONTHS, SOMETIMES AFTER FISCAL YEAR, FOR EVERYTHING TO TRUE UP AND CLOSE OUT. BUT AGAIN, THERE'S AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE'S SOME SIGNIFICANT WELLFIELD PROJECTS IN IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW, AND I BELIEVE ABOUT A 1.75 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS ON THAT SIDE THAT WILL BE TIED TO THE SRF. THE SRF, KEEP IN MIND, IS NOT 100% GRANT FREE OR I SHOULD SAY FREE. IT'S NOT ALL FREE. THE SRF IS A. THEY GIVE US $2 WE HAVE TO PAY. THEY GIVE US $3. WE HAVE TO PAY $1 BACK. SO WE HAVE A TWO THIRDS FORGIVENESS ON THE SRF MONEY. SO WE WILL BE BUILT.
THIS IS HOW WE BUILD TOWARD DEBT SERVICE. THAT'S EXACTLY HOW WE BOOK THE MONEY TOO. SO.
OKAY, THIS IS AGAIN, YOU SAW THIS GRAPH LAST UPDATE ABOUT RESIDENTIAL HOMES. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'VE THIS AGAIN, A LOT OF STUFF STARTED KICKING OFF OUT IN TERRA LAGO IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR. AND THESE ARE THE, I GUESS THE HOUSING STARTS THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE THAT TIME. IT'S
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IT'S TRAILED OFF A LITTLE BIT IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS. I THINK IT'LL PICK UP AGAIN. THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT WE'LL SEE HIGHER NUMBERS THAN THIS IN THE FUTURE. MONTH OF JUNE WAS A LITTLE SLOWER THAN PRIOR, BUT I THINK, AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO EBB AND FLOW UP AND DOWN. AND THE TOTAL NUMBER OF HOMES THAT TOTAL 177, THAT'S GOING BACK TO APRIL OF 25. SO WE'VE HAD 177 NEW HOMES, NEW RESIDENTS IN THE VILLAGE IN TERRA LAGO. SINCE THAT TIME. OKAY. THIS IS AGAIN, ANOTHER VISUAL OF OUR PAST DUE OF THE IMPACTS OF PAST DUE ACCOUNTS AND CHANGING LATE FEES. YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY WE'VE GOTTEN A A GOOD HOLD ON THIS SITUATION. YOU KIND OF SEE WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR. YOU KNOW, WE INSTITUTED THE BIG CHANGE IN THE LATE FEE, GOING FROM $5 TO $35. YEAH. PAIN IS AN EFFECTIVE MOTIVATOR. YEAH IT IS. SO IT HAS WORKED BIG, BIG CHANGES THERE. AND IT HELPS YOU. IT HELPS EVERYONE WHEN, WHEN, WHEN YOU COLLECT CASH, YOU COLLECT PAYMENTS IN A TIMELY MANNER. YOU'RE JUST A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT OPERATION. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT, IT, IT MAKES BUSINESS WORK BETTER. AND THE DISCONNECTS, YOU CAN SEE ALMOST A MIRROR IMAGE. YOU SEE WHERE WE WERE ON A MONTHLY BASIS OF DISCONNECTS AND TURN OFFS FOR NONPAYMENT. AND WE'VE DRAMATICALLY SHRUNK THOSE NUMBERS THIS YEAR. AND GOING REALLY BACK TO THE LAST HALF OF LAST YEAR, WHEN THIS STARTED GOING INTO EFFECT. OKAY, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU A WEBSITE, WHICH IS WHAT WE CALL TYLER SOCRATA DATA INSIGHTS. THIS IS A WEBSITE. THIS IS A BUDGETARY TRANSPARENCY PORTAL. IT'S A BETA SITE. IT'S NOT FULLY FUNCTIONAL. IT'S NOT LIVE YET. SOME OF THESE NUMBERS IN HERE ARE NOT ACCURATE. WE'VE KIND OF BEEN DOING SOME RECONCILIATION AND WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME THINGS SQUARED AWAY HERE. BUT THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE ON OUR WEBSITE. THERE'LL BE A LINK ON OUR WEBSITE. THIS IS THE LANDING PAGE. THERE'S FOUR MAJOR TILES THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE.THIS IS FRANKLY, THIS IS GOING TO FALL INTO, I THINK, WHAT IS IT? HOUSE BILL 1366 OR WHAT IT IS, BUT IT'S REQUIRED NOW. IT'S WE WERE PLANNING ON DOING THIS ANYWAY. IT'S BEEN IN THE PIPELINE. I STARTED WORKING ON IT. BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATURE PASSED THAT LAW. WE HAVE TO HAVE IT OUT THERE. SO THIS PERFECT TIMING. ANYWAY, WE'RE DOING THIS ANYWAY. SO I'LL LET JOSH KIND OF I GAVE HIM A LITTLE CHEAT SHEET BACK THERE. SO WE'LL LOOK AT THE THIS IS WHAT THE REVENUE TILE LOOKS LIKE. YOU GO IN THERE AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE SOME GRAPHICAL VISUALIZATIONS OF SOME OF THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF HOW OUR REVENUE STACK UP AND THE, THE DARKER LINES ARE THE ACTUALS AND THE LIGHTER SHADE IS THE, THE BUDGET. AGAIN, DISCLAIMER THESE ARE NOT ACTUAL NUMBERS. IN SOME CASES, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME ACCOUNTS THAT ARE NOT RECONCILED. THEY'RE NOT TYING TO THE RIGHT PLACE. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT WITH TYLER, BUT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO YEAH, IF YOU WANT TO CLICK ON STATE GRANTS THERE. JOSH. SO THIS IS LIKE A DRILL DOWN. YOU CAN DRILL DOWN INTO THESE. THEY'RE ALL HYPERLINKED. YOU CAN DRILL DOWN INTO IT SHOWS YOU WHAT THE COMPOSITION OF THE STATE REVENUE IS. AGAIN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THAT'S COMING FROM DEP, THE BUDGET. WE HAD SOME OTHER STUFF ALSO COMING FROM DOT FOR THAT WAS FOR LINCOLN STREET. AND YOU CAN SEE THE THE COLLECTION THERE OF 9.325 MILLION ON THAT. OKAY.
AND THEN JOSH IS GOING TO DRILL BACK UP. WE HAVE BI FUNDS. THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT FUNDS.
AGAIN, SOME OF THIS HERE IS NOT QUITE LINKED THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD BE, BUT YOU CAN GO INTO WATER AND SEWER GENERAL FUND, GENERAL GOVERNMENT. SOME OF OUR CIP FUNDS DRILL INTO THAT. AND YES, YES. SO THE EXPORT. YES YOU CAN. YES, YES. IT'S GONNA EXPORT SOME OF THIS INFORMATION INTO LIKE A CSV OR. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. BUT THIS IS VERY SECURE. NOBODY CAN TAMPER WITH. NO, NO, NO ONE'S GOING TO GET IN THERE AND CHANGE OUR BUDGET. NO. OKAY. MIKE, WHEN DO YOU THINK THIS WILL COME BECOME LIVE? I'M REALLY HOPING BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. I'M HOPING SO.
AUGUST? YEAH. I MEAN, AUGUST WILL BE THE ABSOLUTE LATEST, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THAT. I'VE GIVEN THEM A ROADMAP OF SOME THINGS THEY NEED TO FIX, AND IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW LONG IT TAKES THEM TO FIX IT. BUT BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE, THERE'S SOME STUFF IN THERE THAT'S REQUIRED BY JANUARY 1ST. CORRECT. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE WAY AHEAD. YEAH, YEAH. OH YEAH.
YEAH, YEAH. SO WE ARE NOW STILL IN THE REVENUE BUDGET HERE. AND JOSH, I GUESS WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT TILE IF YOU WANT. YEAH. OKAY. OPERATING. AND WE DON'T REALLY LOOK AT FUNCTION. THAT'S A OKAY. SO THIS IS BASICALLY THIS TELLS YOU LIKE THE TYPE OF SPIN HERE. SO HOW MUCH CAPITAL
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OUTLAY DID WE HAVE. CAPITAL OUTLAY MEANING THINGS THAT COST $5,000 OR MORE TYPICALLY IS WHAT WE CHARGE THE CAPITAL OUTLAY. IT'S LIKE OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS, ANY KIND OF EQUIPMENT, THINGS THAT ARE MORE EXPENSIVE. THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE WE CHARGE THINGS TO CAPITAL OUTLAY. AND AGAIN, THIS GIVES YOU A NICE LITTLE DRILL, YOU KNOW, SCREEN ON THE BOTTOM WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THAT'S BREAKING OUT BY DEPARTMENT. YOU CAN DRILL INTO THE DEPARTMENTS THEMSELVES AND SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES WERE WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT. SO I MEAN, ONCE, ONCE THIS IS LIVE, YOU GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO COME IN HERE. AND AGAIN, ANY RESIDENT CAN COME IN HERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. AND IT'S IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE MOSTLY REAL TIME DATA. I DON'T I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE PAUSED. I THINK AS WE POST STUFF, IT'S GOING TO POPULATE, WHICH IS FINE. IF WE MAKE A MISTAKE, SOMEONE MIGHT CALL ME BEFORE I FIND IT. SO WE'LL SEE.WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. BUT I YEAH, IT'S THIS AGAIN, THIS IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO JUST MAKE SURE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, HAVE REAL TIME OR REAL INFORMATION. THEY CAN GET THEIR, YOU KNOW, HANDS ON TO SEE HOW WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONEY, HOW WHAT WE'RE COLLECTING, WHAT WE'RE SPENDING AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE HERE, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT TYLER PROGRAM IS THIS GOING TO MAKE IT 100% OR. YEAH, THE ONLY OTHER MODULE THAT IS OUT THERE THAT IS PENDING WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, I THINK, BETWEEN PARKS, PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES AND A WORK ORDER SYSTEM. THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S REALLY LEFT FOR THEM IS FOR US AS A VILLAGE, IS THEY WANT TO START CREATING WORK ORDERS TO TRACK PERSONNEL, MATERIALS MANAGEMENT IN THE WORKS. YEAH, I THINK THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME PLANNING.
THERE'S THERE'S A PLANNING PHASE WITH THAT STILL, BUT THAT WILL BE THE LAST OF IT. THAT WILL BE DONE. BUT IT'S PAID FOR. IT'S ALL PAID FOR. YEAH, YEAH. ALL PAID FOR. YEAH YEAH YEAH.
ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. OKAY. SO YEAH, I, I, I GUESS THAT'S PROBABLY PRETTY GOOD VIEW THERE. I MEAN, I COULD GO ON AND ON HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, I GUESS WE'RE GOOD. JOSH ON, WE CAN KIND OF GO BACK TO THE POWERPOINT, BUT AGAIN, REVENUE SPENDING A LOT OF STUFF IN THERE. THERE'S A, THERE'S A FEATURE IN THERE I DIDN'T SHOW YOU. BUT IN THE SPENDING FEATURE, THERE'S ALSO A CHECKBOOK. SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO IN THERE AND CLICK AND IT'LL GIVE YOU DETAILS WITHIN THOSE LIKE OF, OF, OF ACTUAL PAYMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE TO VENDORS. YOU CAN LOOK AT VENDOR DETAIL HISTORY, DRILL DOWN TO SPECIFIC PAYMENTS TO THOSE VENDORS. SO IT'S ALL IN THERE. IT'S, I THINK IT'S VERY INTUITIVE, USER FRIENDLY. IF YOU HAVE ANY FAMILIARITY WITH WINDOWS, I THINK YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY PROBLEM NAVIGATING AROUND ON THIS SITE. I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD TOOL AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE IT. YEAH, YEAH, I THINK SO. WE'VE ACHIEVED THAT LEVEL. YES, SIR. YES, SIR, I BELIEVE SO. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. THERE WE GO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE JUST FINISHED IS THE FISCAL YEAR 25 AUDIT. THIS IS THIS IS KIND OF MY TOUR DE FRANCE EVERY YEAR. THIS IS, THIS TAKES A LOT OF, A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE LONGEST DURATION PROCESS THAT I HAVE. IT REALLY STARTS IN AUGUST. TYPICALLY ON A NORMAL SCHEDULE STARTS IN AUGUST. AND FOR US, IT WILL WRAP UP PROBABLY IN APRIL, MAY IN A NORMAL SCHEDULE. IT HASN'T BEEN THAT WAY FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN BEHIND WITH STAFFING ISSUES. WE'VE BEEN BEHIND WITH SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTATION COMMITMENTS. THERE'S BEEN ALL KINDS OF STUFF FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS. WE'RE CAUGHT UP, EVERYTHING IS GOOD. SO THE AUDIT REPORT, IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE RIGHT NOW. IF YOU GO TO FINANCE PAGE, THE FULL AUDIT REPORT COMPLETELY OUT THERE.
ALL OF OUR PRIOR YEARS ARE ALSO OUT THERE IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WEB PAGE. YOU CAN READ EVERYTHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGES, YOU KNOW, FISCAL OPERATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, THE AUDIT OPINION THAT THEY ISSUE. THEY USUALLY ISSUE TYPES OF OPINIONS. THE THE BEST OPINION YOU CAN GET IS AN UNMODIFIED, WHICH IS A CLEAN OPINION, MEANING THE AUDITORS HAD NO ISSUE RENDERING THE SUFFICIENCY OF THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION AND THE ACCOUNTING RECORDS THAT THAT THE THAT THE VILLAGE'S FINANCIAL CONDITION AND RESULTS OF OPERATIONS WERE PRESENTED FAIRLY WITHOUT MATERIAL MISSTATEMENT. THAT'S AG BENCHMARK THAT YOU WANT TO ACHIEVE EACH YEAR. SOME MUNICIPALITIES, SOME AUDITORS SAY, I DON'T THINK SO. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO PASS ON THAT ONE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE AN OPINION OR DISCLAIMER OR AN ADVERSE OPINION. THAT'S BAD STUFF. YOU GET CALLS FROM LEGISLATIVE AUDIT COMMITTEE AND PEOPLE. IF THE ISSUE STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT'S BAD. SO BUT WE HAVE A CLEAN OPINION. OUR FUND BALANCES HERE IN GENERAL GOVERNMENT HAVE GONE UP TO AGAIN, IT'S UNRESERVED. $14 MILLION IS OUR UNRESERVED FUND BALANCE IN GENERAL FUND. AND A LOT OF THAT, AGAIN, OUR OUR
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SPENDING HONESTLY HAS BEEN PRETTY FLAT. WE'VE HAD THE PULLBACK THOUGH. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO MORE WITH LESS. I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT. BUT IT'S BEEN A REAL CHALLENGE. YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A REAL CHALLENGE. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD BECAUSE OF THAT. THE UTILITY FUND, THEY HAVE A FUND BALANCE OF $1 MILLION. IT DID DECREASE BECAUSE OF A LITTLE MORE SPENDING, HIGHER OPERATING EXPENDITURES. BUT AGAIN, THEIR NET POSITION INCREASED BY AN EYE POPPING $31 MILLION BECAUSE OF ALL THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE AROUND THE VILLAGE. THAT'S HUGE. SO THAT LOOKS GREAT. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE ASSETS ON THE BOOKS, THAT'S A GREAT THING. THAT'S NET OF DEPRECIATION, AMORTIZATION AND. ANY ANY DEBT. SO THAT'S THAT'S TREMENDOUS.YOU KNOW, TOTAL NET POSITION FOR THE UTILITY FUND IS OVER $51 MILLION NOW AND GROWING. SO THAT'S A GOOD THAT'S A GOOD THAT'S A GOOD THING. ALL RIGHT. SO SOME OF THE AUDIT FINDINGS HERE, THIS IS THE, THE, THE, I GUESS THE WORST PART OF IT. SO OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE IN FINANCE FOR A LONG TIME HAS BEEN JUST KEEPING UP WITH BANK RECS. YOU KNOW, WE HAD OVER TEN CHECKING ACCOUNTS AT SOUTH STATE BANK. AT ONE POINT IN TIME. THE VILLAGE'S OPERATIONS WERE SCATTERED ALL OVER THE PLACE. IT WAS HARD, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WAS MANUAL. WE HAD DISPARATE SYSTEMS. WE HAD SEPARATE PAYROLL, SEPARATE G.L. SEPARATE UTILITY BILLING.
EVERYTHING WAS MANUAL, MANUAL, MANUAL. AND I WAS REALLY THE ONLY ONE THAT COULD DO MOST OF THAT WORK. IT TOOK ME FOREVER TO GET GOOD PEOPLE TO, TO HELP OUT WITH THAT. A BIG PIECE OF THE BANK RECONCILIATION WORLD GOT BETTER, SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER BY GETTING ON BOARD WITH A NEW ERP SYSTEM AND TYLER TECHNOLOGIES AND HAVING SYSTEMS WORK AND TALK TO EACH OTHER WERE ACCOUNTING TRANSACTIONS AND ENTRIES CAN ACTUALLY GET POSTED AND BOOKED. AND ON TOP OF THAT, AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT I JUST LOVE IS OUR NEW BANKING RELATIONSHIP WITH WELLS FARGO AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE POOLED CASH AND THAT ALL THE FUNDS IN THE VILLAGE ARE IN ONE CHECKING ACCOUNT AND A POOL CASH MODEL, AND THE SOFTWARE CAN TRACK THAT SO THAT WHEN I'M DOING ENTRIES, I CAN, I CAN IMPACT MULTIPLE FUNDS WITHIN THE SAME, YOU KNOW, SERIES OF ENTRIES, PAYROLL AUTOMATICALLY POST THAT WAY. IT'S SO MUCH EASIER. I'M HAPPY TO REPORT, I KID YOU NOT. I POSTED AND APPROVED THE JUNE 26TH BANK REC TODAY. THAT'S HOW CURRENT WE ARE. I HAVEN'T THAT CURRENT IN EONS. SO IF EVER. SO IT'S A HUGE HUGE. I'M VERY PROUD OF IT.
I'M SORRY TO HAVE TO ADMIT IT, BUT IT'S BEEN IT'S IT'S RESOLVED. I THINK IT'S FIXED.
AND THAT'S SOME REALLY GOOD STAFF TOO THAT ARE HELPING ME WITH. I MEAN, REALLY GOOD. I'M VERY HAPPY WITH THEM. ALL RIGHT. ANOTHER DEFICIENCY HERE. USER SOFTWARE ACCESS. THIS WAS A I HAD THIS FINDING IN THE PRIOR AUDIT BECAUSE WE WERE USING OUR LEGACY SOFTWARE. THIS DEFICIENCY HERE REALLY HAS A LOT TO DO WITH. ME HAVING TOO MUCH ON MY DESK, TOO MUCH TO DO.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN A LOT OF THESE SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTATIONS STARTED, THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, WHO'S GOING TO BE ADMIN? AND I LOOKED AROUND THE ROOM, THERE'S NOBODY THERE. WELL, I GUESS I'LL BE THE ADMIN, YOU KNOW? SO I GOT TO BE THE PERSON WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF EVERYTHING WITH TYLER SOFTWARE. AND I'M DOING ALL THE TRANSACTIONS. I'M APPROVING THE JOURNAL ENTRIES, I'M MOVING THE CASH. I'M ALSO AND I HAVE COMPLETE AND TOTAL SYSTEM USER ACCESS. AND THE AUDITORS KIND OF SAY, HEY, BUDDY, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE SEGREGATION TO DO IT. I KNEW THAT, I KNEW THAT, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WAS WHAT THAT WAS. THAT WAS RESOLVED. I HAVE A REALLY, REALLY GOOD SENIOR BUYER IN THE OFFICE WHO'S VERY BRIGHT. SHE'S GOT GREAT APTITUDE, AND SHE'S GOT A REALLY GOOD SKILL SET WITH SECURITY CONTROLS AND SYSTEM ACCESS. SHE'S TAKING THAT FROM ME. THAT HAS TO BE SOMEONE WHO IS NOT DOING ACCOUNTING WORK, WHO WAS TAKING OVER THAT ROLE.
SHE'S DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THAT. WHEN YOU ALSO WERE ABLE TO HIRE SOMEONE TO DO PAYROLL BECAUSE YOU WERE DOING THAT TOO. YEAH. THAT. YEAH. WELL, THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S, THAT'S THE OTHER HERE THING HERE WITH AGAIN, THE, THE LAST SEGREGATION OF DUTY ISSUE THAT I'VE HAD HERE WAS PAYROLL. SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK OVER PAYROLL IN-HOUSE. WE TOOK IT IN-HOUSE IN JANUARY OF 25. AND AGAIN, SAME THING. WHO'S DOING PAYROLL? I LOOK AROUND, THERE'S NOBODY THERE. I GUESS IT'LL BE ME. SO I'M DOING PAYROLL TOO. LET ME ADD IT TO THE LIST. AND SO I WAS DOING PAYROLL BY MYSELF AGAIN, I DOCUMENTED EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO KEEP A GOOD PAPER TRAIL, GOOD AUDIT TRAIL. THERE WAS NO ISSUE WITH THAT. BUT THERE'S A SEGREGATION OF DUTY ISSUE THAT YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T SUSTAIN WITHOUT GETTING IN HOT WATER WITH THE AUDITORS. AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY DING ME ON THAT, YOU KNOW, SO SO THAT'S THAT WAS AGAIN, FIXED. WE HAVE A GREAT, YOU KNOW, PAYROLL HR GIRL. I SHOULDN'T CALL HER A GIRL.
WOMAN. EXCELLENT. EXCELLENT. YOU KNOW, VERY GOOD. VERY HIGH, HIGH CALIBER, THRILLED TO DEATH.
I AM NOW WHAT I SHOULD BE DOING. I'M THE REVIEWER AND APPROVER. I'M NOT THE GUY WHO'S ACTUALLY POSTING AND PROCESSING PAYROLL ANYMORE. THAT'S A GREAT THING. YES. ARE YOU STAFFED FULLY NOW OR DO YOU NEED. WE'RE STILL SHORT. WE'RE STILL SHORT. I HAVE I HAVE A VACANCY, I HAVE A VACANCY, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY
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NEED IS WE DON'T HAVE AN IT PERSON REALLY LIKE A BUSINESS ANALYST PERSON TO HELP PULL ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH THE LATEST AND GREATEST IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE TYLER SOFTWARE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL KIND OF LIKE IN DIFFERENT CAMPS, YOU KNOW, DOING OUR BEST AND WORKING TOGETHER. BUT THIS IS HOW DRIFT HAPPENS. AND PEOPLE GO OFF IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND COME UP WITH THEIR OWN WAYS OF DOING THINGS. AND WE'RE TOO SMALL, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, WE DO OUR BEST WITH THAT. I'M KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THE PATROLMAN WITH THAT. AND I FIND OUT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, STUFF HAPPENING THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN. AND I KIND OF INTERVENE. AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL USE A SOCCER TERM. I MIGHT PULL A YELLOW CARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, POSSIBLY RED CARD SOMEONE IF I HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, DISQUALIFY THEM. BUT NO, THE THAT'S A BIG DEAL. AND I HAD TO CUT THAT OUT OF THE BUDGET LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF THE REDUCTIONS IN THE BUDGET. THAT'S IMPORTANT.AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY IMPORTANT AS WE MOVE TO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, A HIGHER TECHNOLOGY MODEL IN THE VILLAGE IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE GOOD PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE CAPABILITY AND THE APTITUDE TO MAINTAIN THE OVERSIGHT, THE SEGREGATION OF DUTIES AND INTERNAL CONTROLS. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT'S EXPECTED. THE PUBLIC EXPECTS THAT. THAT'S HOW YOU MAINTAIN. YOU KNOW, I THINK CONFIDENCE IN IN THE STEWARDSHIP OF PUBLIC FUNDS, YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THOSE THINGS IN PLACE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THEM IN PLACE. THE LAST IN YOUR OFFICE. AND WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU KEPT YOUR SANITY, BUT YEAH, WELL, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A LOT LESS HAIR NOW THAN I DID A FEW YEARS AGO, I WILL TELL YOU THAT. BUT YEAH, YEAH. THANK YOU THOUGH. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE. OKAY. APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. THE, THE LAST FINDING HERE THAT WE'VE HAD WAS OVERTIME IN THE PUBLIC WORKS REALLY UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS A REPEAT FINDING THERE. AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE INSTITUTED SOME BETTER CONTROLS THIS YEAR. OVERTIME IS GOING TO BE INEVITABLE. AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. YOU KNOW, ON FRIDAY NIGHT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MAJOR DISRUPTIONS OF SERVICE. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE OUTAGES. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE GUYS OUT THERE AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING LOOKING FOR LEAKS. YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T AVOID THAT. IT'S INESCAPABLE. WE JUST HAVE TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO MANAGE IT AND PUT PROPER SYSTEMS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SUFFICIENT DOCUMENTATION THAT JUSTIFIES WHY THOSE OVERTIME HOURS ARE BEING APPROVED. OKAY. PROPERTY TAXES, MAYBE ONE OF OUR FAVORITE SUBJECTS HERE TONIGHT. WE'LL SEE. OKAY, SO THIS WAS A SLIDE FROM PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS JUST TO KIND OF SHOW THE PIE CHART SPREAD OF WHAT OUR PARCEL THIS IS MAYBE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE MAIN PICTURE IS 70% OF OUR PARCELS IS RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? BUT THERE'S AN INVERSE RELATIONSHIP IN TERMS OF TAXABLE VALUE AND WHERE WE GET OUR REVENUES FROM. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE BASIS OF THIS. THIS HAS BEEN OUR ROLLER COASTER. YES, SIR. HOW HOW WILL THIS NEW IF THIS IF THIS TAX BILL PASSES, WHICH IT PROBABLY WILL, HOW'S IT GOING TO AFFECT US? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT ARE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT IT AND THEY NEED TO BE. THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN UP TO LATE NIGHT HOURS TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER SLIDES TO SHOW YOU. I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT HERE IN A MINUTE. I GOT SOME I GOT SOME INFORMATION HERE ON THAT. ABSOLUTELY. SO THIS HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, OUR SUMMERTIME ROLLER COASTER WITH TAXABLE VALUES, THE UP, DOWN, UP, DOWN, UP, DOWN. MOST OF THAT'S BEEN TANGIBLE PROPERTY TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. THAT'S BEEN INVENTORY ROLLING IN AND OUT OF MARKET STREET. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT.
IT'S HAD IT'S HAD MAJOR IMPLICATIONS ON THE VILLAGE IN TERMS OF WHERE WE'VE WHERE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. SO HERE'S SOME GOOD SLIDES. SO HERE'S JUST A COMPARISON OF US TO THE COUNTY. OKAY. SO SINCE 2021, THE COUNTY'S TAXABLE VALUES HAVE GONE FROM 23 BILLION TO 39 BILLION. IT'S A 65% INCREASE. OKAY. OUR OUR VALUES HAVE GONE UP 15% IN THAT TIME. MOST OF THAT IS TANGIBLE PROPERTY. WE KNOW THE STORY HERE ABOUT TAXABLE VALUES OVERWHELMINGLY. YOU KNOW, I THINK EVEN ADJUSTED FOR THAT, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES HERE HAVE NOT INCREASED THAT MUCH. I THINK MAYBE 10%. AND ALL THAT TIME THAT'S REALLY THAT'S ALMOST GRAVITY DEFYING. THAT'S INCREDIBLE TO ME. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S EVEN POSSIBLE, BUT IT'S REAL. IT'S IT'S TRUE. THAT'S WHERE WE'VE BEEN. OUR LEVY DISTRIBUTION. THIS IS HOW IT BREAKS OUT BY YEAR. TANGIBLE PROPERTY IS KING.
OVERWHELMINGLY WHAT WE COLLECT, YOU CAN SEE IN THESE IN THESE YEARS AND PRIOR YEARS, IT'S REALLY IT'S THIS THIS TO ME. I'VE LOOKED AT THIS SO MANY TIMES. IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT FROM 2021 TO 2025, 26 HOMESTEADED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN THIS VILLAGE WENT FROM $47,000 A YEAR. THAT'S ALL WE COLLECTED TO $69,000 A YEAR, $22,000. THAT'S IT. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET HURT. AND THE REST OF IT IS OUR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL NON NON NON NON HOMESTEADED OTHER PROPERTY. WELL ACTUALLY THE NON HOMESTEADED IS THE RED BLOCK
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THERE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE. THAT'S MOSTLY LIKE YOUR MULTIFAMILY YOU KNOW APARTMENTS DUPLEXES ETC. AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL THERE. BUT TP TPP YOU KNOW IS KING YOU KNOW.DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION THIS PAST, I THINK, I THINK MR. VOSE HAD SAID IT DID NOT COME OUT OF COMMITTEE UP THERE, BUT THERE WAS A PROPOSAL TO ELIMINATE TANGIBLE PROPERTY.
THANK GOD IT DIDN'T. SO I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT YEAR. WE HAVE TO WAIT WITH BATED BREATH. BUT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT THOSE VALUES AND THAT AND THAT TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE IN TROUBLE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE I THINK THE VILLAGE HAS SO MUCH PROMISE.
BUT THAT RIGHT THERE CURTAILING THAT OR ELIMINATING THAT'S GOING TO TAKE THE WIND OUT OF OUR SAILS. THAT'S A BIG THAT'S A BIG CHALLENGE. BUT OUR HOMESTEAD TAXES IS NOT GOING TO HURT US VERY MUCH. WELL, WELL, NO, WE THAT'S REALLY I THINK HONESTLY, THE ONLY SAVING GRACE TO THIS IS THAT WE'VE BEEN SO LOW. SO BELOW EVERYONE ELSE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE CLOSEST TO THE FLOOR. WE DON'T HAVE THAT FAR TO GO DOWN. RIGHT. THE COUNTY AND OTHERS HAVE A LOT TO LOSE. WE DON'T. AND THAT'S BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER. WE NEED TO KEEP THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE LEGISLATORS TO MAKE SURE FOR SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A KIND OF A BREAKOUT OF THIS. THIS JUST SHOWS THAT THIS IS A TABLE VIEW OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE WHAT THE PERCENTAGE IS ON THESE VALUES. NEW CONSTRUCTION TOO. I ADDED THAT IN THERE SINCE LAST TIME, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LESS THAN HALF A PERCENT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION SO FAR. YOU KNOW, WILL THAT CHANGE? I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE'VE BEEN. SO THESE THESE VALUES HERE ARE NOT AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT MOVING OR NOT MOVING THE NEEDLE. BLESS YOU.
EXCUSE ME. YEAH. OKAY. SO THIS IS WE'RE STARTING TO GET INTO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. MAYOR, THE PIE CHART OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN THE VILLAGE IS 1095 UNITS THAT ARE NOT NOT MULTIFAMILY. 78%, ALMOST 80% OF THEM, 851 UNITS. ASSUMING PHASE ONE GOES INTO EFFECT WITH THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT. ALL RIGHT. THOSE THOSE VALUES ARE BELOW 150.
THOSE TAXABLE VALUES ARE BELOW $150,000. SO THAT'S $851. THAT WILL GO 851 UNITS. THAT WILL FALL OFF THE TAX ROLL. EFFECTIVELY, WE WILL ONLY HAVE 204 UNITS ABOVE 150 19% OF THE TOTAL PARCEL. AGAIN, THERE'S 40 UNITS THAT ARE RIGHT NOW COMPLETELY EXEMPT FROM PROPERTY TAX. I BELIEVE THE VILLAGE MANAGER, WHEN I AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, AND I BELIEVE IN PHASE TWO, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF $250,000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, I BELIEVE IT'S 123 UNITS THAT WILL BE LEFT IN THE ENTIRE VILLAGE. THAT WILL BE ABOVE $250,000 IN TAXABLE VALUE, 120. SAY THAT AGAIN, 123 UNITS IN THE ENTIRE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN. OF 7000 RESIDENTS THAT PAY WILL BE BE PAYING PROPERTY TAX. THAT'S IT. MOVE TO THERE YOU GO. WELL, ABSOLUTELY. SAVE A LOT OF MONEY THAT'S GOING TO DRAW IN PEOPLE. AND THOSE ARE ALL HOMESTEADED.
THOSE ARE HOMESTEADED. YEAH YEAH YEAH. SO THIS IS WHAT. AND I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU WE HAVE A GREAT PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE. THEY PUT TOGETHER SOME GREAT ANALYSIS FOR EVERYONE IN THE COUNTY. THESE ARE THIS IS INFORMATION THAT IS DIRECTLY FROM JENNY FIELD'S OFFICE AND CARL ANDERSON AND THOSE GREAT FOLKS OVER THERE. THIS IS OUR TAX ROLL 2025 TAX ROLL, A 4.3 MILLION. WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THESE STEP DOWN PHASES OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS OF ABOUT A REDUCTION OF $78,000. OKAY. WHICH IS A LOT FOR US. IT'S A LOT. BUT IS THAT WHERE THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE? NO. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT AND SOME OF THESE OTHER OTHER THESE OTHER TAXING UNITS, THEY GOT THEY GOT ISSUES. YEAH, THEY GOT BIG ISSUES. SO THIS IS THIS IS A BIG TABLE THAT SHOWS THE TOTALITY. THIS IS THE FULL NET EFFECT OF THE 150, THE 5% CAP AND THE 250. SO, AND FIVE AND 5% CAP, RIGHT. BY THE 2829 YEAR, THE COUNTY STANDS TO LOSE ALMOST $50 MILLION IN TAXABLE REVENUES. IF THIS GOES INTO EFFECT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO IF AGAIN, IF THEY WERE TO DO IT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO RAISE THEIR MILLAGE OVER CURRENT YEAR BY 13% TO $7.42 MILLION, 7.42 MILLS. OKAY. BUT THAT'S A 20% LOSS IN REVENUE, RIGHT? THE FIRE DISTRICT, OUR DEAR FRIENDS AT THE FIRE DISTRICT, THAT'S A THAT'S HUGE. THAT'S A $17 MILLION LOSS IN FIRE RESCUE OVER TWO YEARS, 22%, 28% INCREASE IN MILITARY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TO, TO, TO GET THAT BACK UP TO WHERE THEY ARE NOW. AND YOU CAN SEE THE CITY OF STUART, BIG LOSSES THERE 2.6 MILLION ALMOST 2.7 MILLION. TOWN OF JUPITER IMPACTED MUCH
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LESS SEVERELY. SEWELL'S POINT IMPACTED OCEAN TOWN OCEAN BREEZES VERY, VERY EVEN SMALLER THAN US. AND THEN THERE'S OUR NET EFFECT 78,000. BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS THIS IS A REAL CHALLENGE. YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, I THINK ALL OF US AS GOVERNMENT OFFICERS, FINANCE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO FIND A NEW WAY FOR. DOES IT MEAN CUTTING EXPENSES? YES. WILL WE CONTINUE? YES. WILL WE CONTINUE TO FIND WAYS TO BE EFFICIENT? YES. BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS TO OVERCOME THIS, THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO STILL BE INVESTMENT. YOU STILL HAVE TO MAKE INVESTMENT IN THE ORGANIZATION. AND I THINK A LOT OF THAT IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED.MORE AUTOMATION AND TECHNOLOGY. THIS AGAIN, THIS IS A RETREAD SLIDE. I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE CAN'T TAX. IT'S THE VILLAGE REALLY. YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE WITH MILLAGE HERE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SUCH SMALL HOMESTEADED VALUES AND SUCH SMALL TAXABLE REVENUES FROM RESIDENTIAL AND NON HOMESTEADED RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, TANGIBLE PROPERTY IS THE IS THE ENORMITY AND THE ALMOST, YOU KNOW, 80 STILL 83, 84% OF OUR TOTAL TAX BASE. WE CAN'T TAX THEM TO GET, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL, THEY WILL LOAD THAT STUFF UP ON A TRAIN AND, AND LEAVE TOWN, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT CAPTIVE TO OUR DECISIONS WITH TAX RATES AND MILLAGE HERE. YOU KNOW THEY HAVE OPTIONS. SO THIS IS UNFORTUNATELY RAISING MILLAGE TO THE MOON IS NOT IS NOT REALLY GOING TO WORK. IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK, YOU KNOW. SO WE HAVE TO FIND OTHER SOLUTIONS TO THIS. AND I THINK WE WILL. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A GRID OF OUR CURRENT CAPITAL PROJECTED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, INCLUDING CURRENT YEAR. YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, THEY DO HAVE PLANS TO CONTINUE TO DO ROAD, STREET AND DRAINAGE WORK OUT THERE AT ABOUT 500 K A CLIP. AND I THINK WE CAN FUND THAT IF WE STAY WHOLE AND WE DON'T KEEP TAKING STEPS BACKWARDS. THAT'S THE KEY HERE IS ARE WE GOING TO KEEP TAKING STEPS BACKWARDS? ARE WE GOING TO STAY STEADY AND TAKE STEPS FORWARD? THAT'S REALLY NOT IN MY CONTROL. BUT PARKS AGAIN, A LOT OF STUFF WITH PARKS I THINK CAN BE DONE WITH ANNUAL IMPROVEMENTS AND REHABILITATION. BUT ONE OF THE PROJECTS THERE, I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU, YOU KNOW, THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, WE'VE TALKED I KNOW HOW NEAR AND DEAR PARKS AND RECREATION AND YOUTH SPORTS IS TO THE VILLAGE THAT $22.9 MILLION MASTER PLAN. I DON'T KNOW HOW FEASIBLE IT IS, BUT IT'S IT'S A PLAN IN CONCEPT ONLY. THERE'S NO FUNDING BEHIND THAT. I DON'T THINK THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO SEND US MONEY FOR PARKS. THEY MAY. BUT OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN WATER, SEWER AND DRAINAGE. RIGHT. WE HAVE A BIG NEED STILL IN UPTOWN, WE COMPLETED A 700 ZERO ZERO $0 DESIGN FOR UPTOWN DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THAT IS AT LEAST SEVEN, PROBABLY CLOSE TO 10 MILLION, BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING 7 MILLION A FEW YEARS AGO, PROBABLY CLOSER TO 8 OR 9 NOW. SO THAT THAT THAT IS THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PROJECT TO BE DONE. HERE'S THE DOWNSIDE WITH THAT IS THAT WHEN YOU DO DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, YOU GOT UTILITY RELOCATES, YOU GOT TO MOVE WATER AND SEWER LINES.
WELL, THE UTILITY FUND REALLY DOESN'T HAVE THAT. THEY REALLY CAN'T AFFORD TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY. FRANKLY, SOME OF THE MONEY WE SPENT WITH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN INCLUDED UTILITY RELOCATES IN BROOKER PARK WHEN WE DID THE THE BOOKER PARK PROJECT BACK IN 2020 223, THAT WAS A $2.3 MILLION DRAINAGE AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. AND PART OF THAT INCLUDED UTILITY RELOCATES THAT. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO DO THAT. SO WE HAD TO USE ARPA MONEY FOR THAT. COUNCIL APPROVED IT. IT WAS FULLY APPROVED. IT WAS, I THINK AT THE TIME, ABOUT $300,000. THIS WOULD BE A LOT MORE THAN THAT. SO THAT'S JUST THE DRAINAGE. I DON'T THINK THAT EVEN INCLUDES UTILITY WORK. THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM TO ME, WE'VE TALKED WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, WATER AND SEWER LINE REPLACEMENTS. OKAY. SO MR. JENSEN AT ONE POINT HAD SAID TO ME, HE ESTIMATED A A VILLAGE WIDE PROJECT TO REPLACE ALL THE WATER AND SEWER LINES WOULD BE ABOUT 60 TO $65 MILLION. OKAY, TODAY WE HAVE ZERO FOR THAT PROJECT. ZERO. WE HAVE NEVER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. I'VE BEEN HERE FOUR AND A HALF YEARS. WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO BUDGET A ON A PROGRAMMATIC PLAN BASIS TO REPLACE A SINGLE STICK OF WATER AND SEWER PIPE IN THE GROUND. IT'S ONLY BEEN REPLACED, IF AT ALL, BECAUSE OF LINE BREAKS, OR WE GOT A SPLICE ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS, BUT WE HAVE NOT HAD A.
SO THIS IS AN ISSUE HERE THAT IS JUST GOING TO GROW WITH TIME, A BIGGER AND BIGGER PROBLEM. WE KNOW THERE'S ALL KINDS OF STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLUMBED REDONE, STUFF THAT'S FALLING
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APART, WATER QUALITY ISSUES OUT THERE, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE'S, THERE MAY BE A SAFE.THERE MAY NOT BE IN MANY CASES OR MOST CASES, A SAFETY OR LEGITIMATE SAFETY ISSUE. BUT THERE'S A PALATABILITY QUESTION THERE ABOUT WHAT THIS WATER LOOKS LIKE COMING OUT OF MY TAP.
AND DO I WANT TO PUT IT IN MY POT? DO I WANT TO BATHE IN IT? DO I WANT TO DRINK IT? OKAY, WE HEAR THOSE. WE HEAR THOSE CONCERNS. OKAY. THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT DOES THEIR BEST TO ADDRESS THEM, BUT THEY CAN'T THEY CAN'T JUST GO REACH THE GROUND AND RIP OUT THE WATER SYSTEM, WATER LINES AND REPLACE THEM. IT'S NOT THAT IT'S A HUGE, HUGE PROJECT. HUGE.
AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET. WE'LL GET IT THERE. SO LIFT STATION IMPROVEMENTS IS ANOTHER THING HERE. THERE'S A LOT OF LIFT STATIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, LIFT STATIONS WHERE WE COLLECT WASTEWATER AND THEN WE PUMP IT TO THE SEWER PLANT. WE GOT SOME PLANTS OUT THERE THAT ARE PART OF ME, SOME LIFT STATIONS THAT ARE IN BAD SHAPE STRUCTURALLY, YOU KNOW, IN DESPERATE NEED OF REHABILITATION AND OR COMPLETE AND TOTAL REPLACEMENT. THAT'S NOT YOU. THAT'S $4.5 MILLION. THAT'S NOT FUNDED. WE'VE TALKED TO ABOUT, THOUGH, 151ST STREET WATER MAIN. AGAIN, WE ARE WE'RE IN GREAT SHAPE WITH THE RAILROAD AVENUE MAIN. YAY FOR US. WE GOT 7.9 MILLION FOR THAT. THAT'S THAT'S GREAT. BUT THE OTHER BIG WATER MAIN IN TOWN, 151ST STREET THAT REQUIRES A $750,000 COST MATCH. THAT'S, I THINK, A USDA GRANT, A FEDERAL GRANT, EMPTY POCKETS, YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE IT. SO THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM WITH THAT. SO WE CAN'T WE DON'T HAVE THE 750 TO COME UP WITH TO GET THE 3 MILLION THAT'S. THERE YOU GO. DON'T WE THOUGH. DON'T WE THOUGH. YEAH. WE GOT SOME RESERVE MONEY. WHY DON'T WE JUST DO THAT. WELL HE HAS RIGHT NOW $1 MILLION TOTAL. I MEAN WE HE'D BE CLEANED OUT PRETTY MUCH. IT'S MORE AN ACCOUNTING ISSUE. YEAH. BECAUSE UTILITIES AND SEWER YOU SHOULD BE PAYING FOR ITSELF. AND SO YES, WE DO HAVE FUND BALANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH.
YEAH. THAT'S WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. YEAH. WE'D HAVE TO DO INTERFUND LOANS. UTILITY FUND WOULD HAVE WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT. RIGHT. WHY DON'T WE. MAYBE WE WILL, I DON'T KNOW. WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE IF THAT WHAT WHAT WHAT THAT TAKES. BUT UTILITY FUNDING HAVE TO PAY AGAIN, THE UTILITY FUND. KEEP IN MIND THE SRF IS STANDING IN LINE WITH THEIR EXPECTATION OF REPAYMENT OF DEBT. WE HAVE DEBT THAT. THEY'RE GOING TO BE PAYING EVEN MORE FOR THE EXISTING SR. SO SR. SO THIS WOULD BE MORE DEBT THEY'D HAVE TO PAY BACK IF WE HAVE TO DO I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT MR. NOLAN THINKS ON THAT CASE. THAT'S JUST GOING TO GET MORE EXPENSIVE. IT MAY VERY WELL. IT MAY VERY WELL WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. YEAH. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. YEAH. FAIR ENOUGH. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO GOING TO GET US $3 MILLION. IT WILL GET US $3 MILLION. IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE PROJECT COST. THAT'S THE ISSUE IS THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW OLD THAT I THINK THAT'S THE GRANT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE PROJECT WOULD ACTUALLY COST. THAT'S THAT'S THE OTHER QUESTION IS IF IF WE'RE OVER, THEN WHO'S GOING TO PAY THE OVERAGE THERE? WOULD WE WOULD THE GENERAL FUND GO IN MORE FOR THAT. SO OKAY, SO THAT'S YOUR THAT'S YOUR TOTAL PICTURE OF, YOU KNOW, CAPITAL PROJECTS AND WHAT WE THINK IS FUNDED AND UNFUNDED. I GUESS MOST OF THE STUFF WITH THE R O PLANT, AGAIN, WE'RE AT ALMOST $88 MILLION FOR THAT PLANT, BY THE WAY, WHICH IS PRETTY GOOD. THAT'S INCREDIBLE. SO THAT'S $88 MILLION. THE RESIDENTS WON'T HAVE TO PAY BACK THROUGH RATES OR WHATEVER. SO THAT'S A TREMENDOUS SCORE FOR US. YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST ONE THING I JUST WANT TO SAY I REGARDING AND AGAIN, I'M I'M HONESTLY FLOORED BY THE GENEROSITY THAT THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR HAS GIVEN US WITH SOME OF THESE MONIES. IT'S INCREDIBLE. AND I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF IT, AS YOU ALL ARE. I WENT THROUGH THE STATE BUDGET, THE APPROPRIATIONS BUDGET FOR DEP FUNDING. SO THEY HAVE A BIG BUDGET BOOK OUT THERE. I WENT THROUGH ALL THE LINES IN IT, I BELIEVE WAS ABOUT $360 MILLION CAME FROM DEP, AND THEN THERE WAS ABOUT 20 PLUS MILLION IN GENERAL FUND THAT THEY KICKED INTO TO ISSUE $380 MILLION STATEWIDE. 380 OKAY, WE GOT 46. WE GOT 46.
THOSE ARE 100 OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT WAS ON THAT DISTRIBUTION LIST. I THINK THE CLOSEST MUNICIPALITY THAT I RECALL OR COUNTY WAS MAYBE 10 MILLION OR 12 MILLION. I MEAN, IT'S JUST INCREDIBLE. IT'S MIND BOGGLING REALLY. SO WE'VE HAD INCREDIBLE GENEROSITY HERE AND WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR IT. WELL, I THINK THEY SEE GREAT STEWARDSHIP. IT WELL YEAH, SURE.
YEAH. WE'RE 100% WE THEY HAVE CONFIDENCE IN I MEAN, THIS IS NOT A PLUG FOR US UP HERE, BUT WE THEY HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR OUR CURRENT COUNCIL AND OUR. NO DOUBT, THERE'S NO DOUBT. AND I THINK THAT'S EVERYONE A PART OF THIS, INCLUDING ESPECIALLY THE COUNCIL DESERVES ALL THE CREDIT IN THE WORLD FOR THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS THAT THIS IS JUST REALLY UNPRECEDENTED GRANT
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FUNDING. I MEAN, FOR OUR MY AUDITORS HAVE ASKED ME THESE QUESTIONS. I TOLD THE VILLAGE MANAGER THIS. SO HOW DID YOU GUYS GET THAT MONEY? I HAVE CLIENTS DOWN HERE IN SOUTH FLORIDA THAT DIDN'T GET THAT MONEY. THEY'VE ASKED ME THAT. WHERE'D YOU GET THAT? HOW'D THAT HAPPEN? I SAID, I DON'T KNOW, WE GOT MAGIC UP HERE. WE GOT PIXIE DUST OR SOMETHING.THEY'RE WATCHING US, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY THEY THEY HAVE ASKED ME THAT. THEY ASKED ME THAT, PARTICULARLY ON THE ARPA MONEY THAT WE HAD FOR THE WASTEWATER, FOR THE FOR THE TERRA LAGO IMPROVEMENTS. THEY THEY COULD SAY LIKE, WHERE'D YOU GET THAT MONEY? HOW'D YOU GET THAT? WE HAVE MUNICIPALITIES FOUR TIMES YOUR SIZE. THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THAT MONEY. HOW DID YOU.
SO THERE'S SOMETHING MAGICAL. I THINK THERE'S I THINK THE MAGIC IS IN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SO MANY COMPUTER COMPUTE COMMUNITY SUPPORTERS, LIKE, OH, YEAH, PEOPLE COMING IN SAYING, WE BELIEVE THAT WE BELIEVE IN THIS COMMUNITY. WE THAT RELATIONSHIP, IT'S RELATIONSHIP. IT REALLY IS.
YEAH, IT REALLY IS. IT'S INCREDIBLE NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN THEY DECIDE WHAT THEY'RE DOING. SO I THINK THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THAT, THAT INDIAN TOWN WAS ALWAYS A STEPCHILD TO. AND THEY, YOU KNOW, OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE IT, DESERVE IT. SO YEAH, YEAH. OKAY.
BUT THEY LIKE US. BUT ON CLOSING ON THIS PAGE AGAIN, WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE MADE INCREDIBLE PROGRESS WITH WHAT'S BEEN FUNDED. BUT YOU CAN SEE WHAT WHAT HAS NOT, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THIS CALLS FOR A PLAN OF SOME SORT TO ADDRESS THESE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, THESE THINGS I THINK I THINK THE WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM IN THIS TOWN HAS GOT TO GET ADDRESSED SOONER THAN LATER. THAT'S MY OPINION. GOT TO GET ADDRESSED. YES. YEAH. BEFORE WE START FIXING ROADS, WHY ARE WE FIXING ROADS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TEAR BACK UP? THAT'S ALL PART OF IT. I MEAN, YEAH, IT'S ALL PART OF IT FOR SURE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. MY CLOSING COMMENTS HERE. SO NEXT NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IS THE THE DATE WE HAVE SCHEDULED FOR THE TENTATIVE APPROVAL OF THE MILLAGE RATE. SO THIS IS THIS AS A COUNCIL, YOU SET THE CEILING ON OUR TAX RATE, OUR PROPOSED TAX RATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2627 CAN GO DOWN. JUST CAN'T GO UP. RIGHT. THIS WILL TECHNICALLY BE CONSIDERED A TAX INCREASE BECAUSE VALUES WENT UP FOR FISCAL YEAR 2627. I BELIEVE OUR ROLLBACK RATE IS 1.7736, WHICH MEANS THAT'S THE RATE THAT THAT WOULD BE THE MILLAGE RATE WE WOULD HAVE. WE WOULD ASSESS IF WE WANTED TO KEEP THINGS EXACTLY AS THEY ARE IN THE CURRENT YEAR. I AM IMPLORING THE COUNCIL TO PLEASE DON'T DO THAT, TO PLEASE SUPPORT THAT. WE KEEP A STEADY LEVEL. MILLAGE RATE OF 1.8250, WHICH IS THE CURRENT APPROVED RATE. BUT UNDER THE LAW THAT'S CONSIDERED A TAX INCREASE. OKAY. THEY CALL IT A TAX INCREASE BECAUSE YOUR VALUES WENT UP AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE COLLECTING MORE MONEY. WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT HERE, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW, IS THAT OUR VALUES LAST YEAR DECREASED BY $111 MILLION OR 4.5% DECREASE. WE LOST $202,000 IN TAX REVENUE LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS THAT WAS A THAT WAS A BIG DEAL. THAT WAS A BIG HIT. OKAY. BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE BELOW. 20, 24 LEVELS BY $86,000. SO WE'RE STILL, EVEN IF WE KEEP AT 1.8250 MILLS, WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE BELOW 24 LEVELS. THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S CHEAPER IN THE VILLAGE SINCE 2024, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, AND WE WE HAVE PERSONNEL COSTS, INSURANCE COSTS, OPERATIONS COSTS, ELECTRICITY, CHEMICALS, NEW PLANTS COMING ONLINE. AGAIN, THAT'S WATER AND SEWER. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE COSTS ARE INCREASING AND WE'RE JUST NOW APPROACHING. WE'RE STILL, AGAIN, NOT EVEN AT 24 LEVELS. SO WE'RE STILL BELOW 24 LEVELS. OKAY. BUT AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS A CALL TO THAT. YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE, AS YOU KNOW, AS A COUNCIL AND FUTURE COUNCILS. I MEAN, IF YOU GUYS ALWAYS HAVE THE RESIDENTS BEST INTEREST AT HEART, NO QUESTION. BUT PART OF THAT, I THINK IS TO PROVIDE SUSTAINABILITY AND STABILITY OF THE ORGANIZATION AND OF THE VILLAGE, THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP DOING THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING AND THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THE REVENUES THAT WE NEED AS A MATCH FOR SOME OF THESE GRANTS THAT ARE STILL. WE'VE BEEN AGAIN, DEP FUNDING HAS BEEN VERY GOOD. THAT'S BEEN 100%. BUT SOME OF THESE OTHER GRANTS ARE NOT 100%. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MATCH, YOU KNOW, SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME SKIN IN THE GAME WITH SOME OF THESE PROJECTS IN ORDER TO GET THE MONEY, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE A GOOD DEAL. THEY'RE A GREAT RETURN ON INVESTMENT, BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT. OKAY. AGAIN, LAST BUT NOT LEAST HERE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, STAFF THE VILLAGE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RIGHT NOW STILL ABOUT 37 EMPLOYEES ON PAYROLL. WE HAVE 43 POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED. WE HAVE DEFUNDED SOME OF THEM. ONE OF THE ONES THAT I YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I THINK THE VILLAGE REALLY NEEDS IN THIS UPCOMING BUDGET CYCLE IS WE NEED TO GET BACK TO GETTING SOMEONE WHO CAN BE AN IT PERSON AND KIND OF HELP US WITH TYLER TECHNOLOGIES. WE HAVE ISSUES, I THINK, AS OUR AS
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OUR CIP PROGRAMS GROW AND PROJECTS INCREASE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED SOME PROFESSIONAL PROJECT MANAGEMENT OVERSIGHT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE VILLAGE WITH ENGINEERING ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE, UTILITY, PUBLIC WORKS. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, MY DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, I NEED TO FILL THE VACANCY THAT I HAVE. I THINK THAT WOULD HELP. THAT'S A THAT'S A BIG ISSUE THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW. THE ONLY POSITION I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR, AGAIN, IS TO, TO RE REESTABLISH THE FUNDING FOR SOMEONE WHO CAN STEP IN AND BE SOME SORT OF JUNIOR BUSINESS ANALYST OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. WE CAN'T LET THE SYSTEM JUST GROW LEGS AND SPIDER AND, AND GO IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. AND THAT'S HOW INEFFICIENCIES HAPPEN. THAT'S HOW, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATIONS START TO, I THINK, LOSE THEIR WAY. IT'S IMPORTANT.YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO KIND OF HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THE CATTLE IN THE CORRAL, IF YOU WILL. YOU GOT TO KEEP THEM ALL TOGETHER, KEEP EVERYONE MOVING IN THE SAME DIRECTION.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ORGANIZATIONAL PROBLEMS IF YOU DON'T DO THAT. HAVE YOU BEEN DOING ANY ANY INTERVIEWS FOR THOSE POSITIONS? NOT NOT FOR I INTERVIEWS FOR THAT POSITION.
NO, BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN IT HASN'T BEEN FILLED. IT HASN'T BEEN BUDGETED. SO AND I HAVEN'T ADVERTISED IT. I WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO GO BACK AND REVISIT THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN DO OUT THERE FOR THAT. BUT THAT'S A THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING TO DO.
AND AGAIN, I THINK AGAIN, ONE OF THE MOST I KIND OF BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, BUT WE DON'T NEED JUST AN IT PERSON WHO'S GOING TO BE PLUNKING ON KEYBOARDS AND CLICKING AWAY ON A MOUSE. I MEAN, I'VE WORKED WITH SOME REALLY GOOD BUSINESS ANALYST PEOPLE AND THERE'S A, THE PEOPLE, THE BEST PEOPLE IN THE IT WORLD ARE THE PEOPLE WHO SAT AT MY DESK OR MY STAFF MEMBER'S DESK WHO DID THE JOB, WHO KNOW THE WORKFLOWS, WHO KNOW ACTUALLY HOW STUFF IS SUPPOSED TO GET DONE. AND THEN THEY AND THEN THEY GRADUATE TO IT.
THAT'S HOW NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, RIGHT? THEY START AT THE BUSINESS PROCESS LEVEL AND THEN GO TO IT. THOSE ARE THE BEST. THOSE PEOPLE ARE WORTH THEIR WEIGHT IN GOLD. I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING WITH PEOPLE AT TYLER TECHNOLOGIES WHO ARE NICE PEOPLE, GOOD IT PEOPLE. THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THEIR SOFTWARE IS ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED AT THE ORGANIZATIONAL LEVEL. THEY DON'T KNOW IT. THEY DON'T.
SORRY, I GET A LITTLE FRUSTRATED EVEN WHEN I TALK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THROUGH TWO PLUS YEARS WITH SOME OF THESE PEOPLE, AND IT'S BEEN SURPRISING AT TIMES. IT'S BEEN SURPRISING TO ME. THEY'RE GOOD, NICE PEOPLE, BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED THIS JOB.
NO, NO. AND THEY'VE NOT REALLY DONE MANY ON THIS SIDE. THEY'VE ALL BEEN ON THAT SIDE. SO ALL RIGHT. SO LAST THINGS HERE. AND I WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL A CHANCE TO KIND OF SPEAK HERE, ASK QUESTIONS AND GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU. SOME OF THE THINGS COMING FORWARD BESIDES THE RESOLUTION FOR THE TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING THIS SUMMER, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BRING FORWARD A RESOLUTION FOR YOU ALL TO ESTABLISH AN AUDIT COMMITTEE. RIGHT. SO WE HAVE NOW COMPLETED FIVE YEARS WITH OUR EXTERNAL AUDITORS. WE'RE NOT AT A POINT WHERE WE CAN RENEW AND REENGAGE WITH THEM. IT'S TIME TO, I THINK, GO OUT AND SURVEY THE MARKET AGAIN, SEE WHAT WE CAN GET. A LOT HAS CHANGED WITH THE VILLAGE. YOU KNOW, WE WERE RUNNING A COMPUTER SYSTEMS THAT WERE HAMSTER POWERED FIVE YEARS AGO, AND NOW WE'RE RUNNING REAL ERP AND DOING REAL STUFF. AND IT, IT TAKES, IT TAKES THERE'S A IT EXPERTISE WITH THIS THAT THE AUDITS HAVE GOTTEN MORE COMPLEX. THE AUDIT, THE IT AUDITS THE LAST TWO YEARS HAVE GROWN QUITE A BIT IN TERMS OF WHAT I'VE HAD TO BE INVOLVED WITH. SO WE NEED TO WE NEED TO INCORPORATE AND CHANGE OUR SPECS IN RFP FOR THAT. BUT THERE HAS TO BE A COMMITTEE THAT IS ESTABLISHED. IT'S. IT'S FOR THE VILLAGE. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A COMMITTEE OF THREE. AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE REREAD THE STATUTE BEFORE I CAME BACK IN HERE. AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT WEIGHT ON THE SPOT, BUT IT'S IT'S GENERALLY IT'S GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER. IT COULD BE, I THINK A, A RESIDENT, A RESIDENT, A REPRESENTATIVE COULD BE TWO. I, I FORGET EXACTLY. THE COUNTY IS EASY. I KNOW THAT ONE LIKE THE BACK OF MY HAND. WE'LL BRING WE'LL BRING IT BACK BECAUSE YEAH IT'LL HAVE IT'S YEAH. I'VE GOT OTHER ONES ESTABLISHING THEM BECAUSE IT'S. YEAH, IT'S ALL GOVERNED PURSUANT TO A STATUTE. ONE HAS TO BE A MEMBER OF THE GOVERNING BODY. YEAH. AND, AND STAFF AND.
CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER CANNOT BE ON IT. THEY CAN BE ON AN ADVISORY CAPACITY, BUT THEY CAN'T BE ON IT. SO. RIGHT. BUT YEAH, WE'LL BRING BACK RESOLUTION. YEAH. SO THAT ONE THERE. RIGHT. EXACTLY. OKAY. AND I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, I'VE BEEN BUILDING A LIST AND I HAVE A LOT, I HAVE, I HAVE, OH MAN, I HAVE SO MANY POLICIES THAT I NEED TO BRING TO YOU SO MANY, A LOT. OUR, OUR, OUR FINANCIAL POLICY BOOK HASN'T BEEN UPDATED IN YEARS. AND THERE'S JUST MORE AND MORE, I JUST KEEP MAKING LISTS OF STUFF THAT I LIKE. ALL WE NEED THIS. WE NEED TO HAVE THIS IN PLACE. WE NEED TO DO THIS AND, AND WE DO. AND AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE HAVE $14 MILLION IN THE GENERAL FUND. WE NEED TO HAVE CERTAIN LEGISLATIVE, YOU KNOW, GOVERNING BODY RESTRICTIONS ON SOME OF THIS MONEY, SOME DIRECTION ON THAT. YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HAVE EMERGENCY RESERVE FUNDING. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A
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WHOLE FUND BALANCE POLICY. THERE'S A LOT WITH THAT THAT WE NEED TO PUT IN PLACE, AMONG OTHER THINGS. YEAH. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL THAT'S ALL BIG PROJECT BY BY ITSELF. AND I WILL TELL YOU, YOU CAN'T WRITE THESE COMPLETE. YOU CAN'T COMPLETELY WRITE THESE POLICIES USING CHATGPT OR AI BECAUSE I PEOPLE HAVE TRIED, THEY SENT ME THIS STUFF. I'M LIKE, TRY AGAIN.NO, THAT'S NOT HOW THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS. SO SO THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S A LOT THERE WITH THAT. AND AGAIN, I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF ASK YOU ALL, IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE'RE STILL ABOUT A MONTH AWAY BEFORE WE HAVE OUR FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP.
BUT AS FAR AS COUNCIL PRIORITIES ON FUNDING, YOU KNOW, SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I BELIEVE WE WILL PUT IN PLACE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, CONTINUATION OF CERTAIN MEMBERSHIPS FOR THE COUNTY. I KNOW, I KNOW THE MEMBER, THE MEMBERSHIPS THAT THE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL IN GENERAL HAS TO THE STATE LEAGUE OF CITIES, NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, CERTAIN TRAVEL THAT YOU ALL DO THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE YEAR AND PART OF YOUR BUSINESS WILL FUND THAT. WE'LL KEEP THAT GOING. IF THERE'S ANY CERTAIN LIKE SERVICE LEVEL BENCHMARKS WITH PARKS AND RECREATION THAT WE NEED TO ACHIEVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, OUR I THINK IT WENT OFF WELL. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE FIREWORKS IS ALWAYS A DEBATED DISCUSSION EACH YEAR. YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANT TO FUND THAT? DO YOU WANT DO YOU DO YOU WANT TO PROVIDE AN ANSWER TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE NOW, OR WE'LL WAIT. AND WHEN THEY COME BACK IN MAY AND ASK FOR THE MONEY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. SATURDAY BUS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE CAN CONTINUE TO FORWARD TO FUND THAT. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTION ON THAT UNLESS YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS. THE STATE HAS ESSENTIALLY DOT HAS CUT OFF THE MONEY FOR THAT. SO WE'RE ON OUR OWN. IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO REMAIN PROBABLY JUST A SATURDAY SERVICE, BUT WE CAN DO IT. OKAY. AND AGAIN, ANYTHING FROM THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU HAVE IF THERE'S CERTAIN IDEAS OR THOUGHTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE BUDGET, WE, YOU KNOW, I NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT AND YOU CAN TALK TO ME INDIVIDUALLY. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SHARE NOW WOULD BE LOVE. HAPPY TO DISCUSS IT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MUCH OUT THERE. OUR BIGGEST ISSUES AGAIN, ARE THE MILLAGE MILLAGE RATE THAT YOU WILL ESTABLISH NEXT MEETING. AND I'M HOPING THAT I'VE MADE A COMPELLING ENOUGH CASE THAT WE AT LEAST STAY STEADY. I'M NOT ASKING FOR TO GO ABOVE WHERE WE ARE NOW. I'M JUST SAYING, PLEASE, LET'S NOT TAKE FURTHER STEPS BACKWARDS. PLEASE. ALRIGHT, I YIELD THE FLOOR.
I'VE BEEN TALKING FOR A LONG TIME. THANK YOU. SORRY WE KEPT YOU SO LONG. YEAH, YEAH. HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT INFORMATION. WELL THANK YOU.
YEAH. AND AND, YOU KNOW, TO TO MIKE'S POINT, I KNOW SOME FOLKS WERE CONCERNED BECAUSE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THIS OUT IN THE PERIOD OF TIME FOR THE AGENDA, BUT HE LITERALLY HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS UP UNTIL LAST NIGHT AT 830. AND THANK YOU, MIKE. APPRECIATE IT. YEAH.
PUBLIC COMMENT FROM MR. DAVID POWERS. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, DAVID POWERS. FOR THE RECORD, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE MIKE A HUGE SHOUT OUT COMING HERE FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO TO THE DISASTER THAT HE HAD STEPPED INTO. AND WHAT? I'M SORRY, DID I SAY IT RIGHT? DISASTER. AND FOR WHAT HE'S BEEN ABLE TO DO TO TURN THIS AROUND IN THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND THE STABILITY IS GIVEN THOSE LEGISLATORS A PIECE OF THAT AS A TEAM MEMBER THAT BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. AND HELL OF A JOB. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY.
100% AGREE. TAMRON, I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION. BERNSTEIN. NO. OKAY. SORRY. NO, NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT. OKAY. SO QUESTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAD ASKED ABOUT THE LEON COUNTY HAD THAT THAT. YES. WERE YOU ABLE TO LOOK INTO THAT? YES. YEAH. THE THE PROGRAM, I ACTUALLY WAS FAMILIAR WITH IT BECAUSE I HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE INDIVIDUAL THAT RAN LEON COUNTY. AND I DID PULL THE INFORMATION. IT'S IT'S A VERY SIMILAR GAME TO WHAT MARTIN COUNTY LEADERSHIP DOES RELATIVE TO ON THEIR GOVERNMENT DAY. THEY ESSENTIALLY HAVE BOXES OF, YOU KNOW, FIRE RESCUE ROADS AND, AND THEN YOU GET SO MUCH MONEY AND YOU PUT YOUR MONEY IN THE BOX. AND THAT PRIORITIZES WHAT PROJECTS AND THAT FUNDING FOR THAT BUDGET. IT'S KIND OF A VERY SIMILAR CONCEPT, BUT IT WAS DEVELOPED 12 YEARS AGO. AND SO IT PROBABLY NEEDS SOME REFRESHMENT OF SOME SORT. I THINK WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT EXERCISE FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET WORKSHOP. IT COMES DOWN TO REALLY WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE AND WHERE YOU WANT THAT FUNDING. LIKE MIKE GOES BACK TO THAT LIST. YOU
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KNOW, WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH MONEY. AND SO USUALLY A TOOL LIKE THAT IS MORE EFFECTIVE WHEN YOU'RE MAKING REDUCTIONS. WELL, THE REASON WHY I ASKED ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE I WANTED A LOT OF TIME RESIDENTS, THEY, THEY, I, I WANTED THEM TO PLAY THOSE THAT WOULD COME TO THE WORKSHOP. I WANTED THEM TO DO IT SO THEY CAN SEE HOW TEDIOUS IT IS TRYING TO PULL AND, YOU KNOW, PINCH AND PULL AND JUST TO MAKE SURE SERVICES AND WHAT HAVE YOU, YOU KNOW, ARE AVAILABLE. WE HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IT. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT IT. YEAH. SO I MEAN, I'M, I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE. WHAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DO AS FAR AS. HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I MEAN, OUR WORKSHOPS GENERALLY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF INTERACTION WITH THE PUBLIC. I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO STAFF. AND I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM DOING A WORKSHOP WITH THE PUBLIC, BUT THIS STUFF IS COMPLICATED AND.TRYING TO EXPLAIN IT. I MEAN, I GUESS WE CAN DO IT IN PUBLIC, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS RIGHT HERE ON THE BUDGET. CORRECT. OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NEED TO SHOW UP AND THEY NEED TO GET INFORMED AND MAKE THEIR THEIR COMMENTS. I DO WANT THE COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION FOR THE DISADVANTAGED AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, STEWART, YOU CAN GET AN UBER. I DON'T KNOW HOW AFFORDABLE IT IS OR NOT, BUT BUT TRYING TO GET FROM INDIANTOWN TO STEWART FOR SOME OF THESE PEOPLE IS GOING TO BE VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE. AND THEY'RE THE PEOPLE THAT NEED US THE MOST. SO I WANT YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND I'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION AFTER OUR OUR BOARD MEETING AND SEE WHAT IT COSTS. WHAT OUT OF THAT 755,000 OR WHATEVER IT WAS, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH OF THAT MONEY WAS INDIANTOWN MONEY? SO WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO KEEP THAT PROGRAM GOING FOR OUR PEOPLE HERE IN INDIANTOWN. SO THINK ABOUT THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE MEETING, AFTER OUR MEETING, I'LL BRING BACK SOME MORE INFORMATION. SO IT'S THE MPO. YEAH, THE TRANSPORTATION FOR THE DISADVANTAGED THAT, YOU KNOW, NEED TO GET TO THE HOSPITAL OR, YOU KNOW, FOR A DOCTOR'S VISIT OR. OR TO A PHARMACY OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. BUT. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT AND FIND THE MONEY FOR. SO I'M SORRY, I DO HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT ON THE BUDGET PRESENTATION, MISS JULIE ROBERTS. WELCOME. THANK YOU. SO, JULIE ROBERTS, FOR THE RECORD, FIRST OF ALL, IN THE BUDGET, WE MENTIONED ABOUT THE $35 LATE FEE. I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE TO SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND I DON'T FEEL THAT THAT IS REALLY A FAIR THING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING TO OUR RESIDENTS IN INDIANTOWN, WHETHER THEY LIVE IN THE VILLAGE OR OUT OF THE VILLAGE. IF WE HAVE A $35 LATE FEE, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE IMPOSED ONLY ON PEOPLE WHO ARE HABITUAL LATE PAYERS. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME PEOPLE WHO ONCE IN A WHILE THEIR PAY GETS DELAYED. THEY THEY JUST DON'T HAVE IT FOR WHATEVER REASON. AND I SAW A COUPLE LITTLE SNICKERS GO ON AT THE TIME, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S FUNNY. I THINK THAT THAT IS A REAL LIFE HARDSHIP ON SOME PEOPLE TO HAVE TO PAY THAT $35.
SECONDLY, I'M JUST GOING TO GO OFF ON ONE MORE LITTLE TANGENT. I WANT TO THANK YOU, LADIES, FOR BRINGING UP THE 90 DAY PAUSE OR 100 OR 12 MONTHS. 24 WHATEVER. I THANK YOU, LADIES, FOR MENTIONING THAT YOU WANTED TO DO A MEETING, AND YOU WANTED TO HAVE PEOPLE BE ABLE TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS. AND ALSO MENTIONING ABOUT BRINGING IN EXPERTS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO THOSE EXPERTS WOULD BE BECAUSE THEY NEED TO BE PEOPLE WHO ARE NON-BIASED. I'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT BIASES, AND THOSE NEED TO BE PEOPLE WHO ARE NON-BIASED. THE DEAL WITH TENNESSEE, THOUGH, THAT SOUNDS GREAT. WE DON'T KNOW THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD DO HERE. I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE REPRIMANDED BECAUSE THEY DON'T AGREE WITH CERTAIN OTHER PEOPLE. NOBODY ON THIS VILLAGE COUNCIL HAS ANY MORE POWER THAN ANYONE ELSE. YOU ARE ALL EQUALS.
NO ONE HAS ANY MORE POWER. AND TO SHAKE YOUR HEADS, ROLL YOUR EYES AT WHAT SOMEONE ELSE SAYS.
THAT'S DISRESPECTFUL. I DO NOT LIVE IN THE VILLAGE. I LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE VILLAGE. I HAVE MAJOR CONCERNS THAT ARE THAT ARE TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THE VILLAGE.
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ONE OF THESE THINGS IS THE DATA CENTER. ONE OF THE THINGS IS WATER. ANY OF THOSE OTHER THINGS WE HAVE, ANYTHING THAT TAKES THAT HAPPENS IN THIS VILLAGE DOES CONCERN ME. THE DATA CENTER DOES CONCERN ME, AND I SHOULD NOT BE DISMISSED BECAUSE I HAVE CONCERNS LIKE THAT. THESE TWO LOVELY LADIES THAT HAD TO LEAVE AGO, MY COUSINS, WE ALL LIVE ON LAND THAT OUR GRANDPARENTS CAME 108 YEARS AGO AND SETTLED ON. WE DO FEEL THAT THOUGH WE DON'T LIVE HERE IN THIS VILLAGE, WE DO LIVE IN INDIANTOWN. WE HAVE ALWAYS LIVED IN INDIANTOWN, AND OUR THOUGHTS COUNT JUST AS MUCH AS EVERYBODY ELSE'S. THANK YOU. I DO KNOW THAT YOU ALL DON'T NECESSARILY REPRESENT US. WE GOT THAT LOUD AND CLEAR TONIGHT. BUT YOU DO NEED TO LISTEN TO YOUR PEOPLE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IS THAT IT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS. WE'RE NOT VOTING ON ANYTHING. THIS IS JUST A PRESENTATION. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR. NO, I'M SORRY. THAT WAS THAT WAS A COMMENT ON THE ITEM. BUT YOU HAVE ONE[PUBLIC COMMENT (3 MINUTES EACH)]
PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE NEXT PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. OKAY. BRING IT UP. SO SORRY, MISS SHEILA ROSARIO. HI, GUYS. SHEILA ROSARIO, FOR THE RECORD, START. OKAY. SEE IF I CAN STAY ORGANIZED. ONE, I RESPECT BOTH OF THE LADIES THAT ARE DOING THE PARKS AND THE SPORTS, BUT FOR SOME OF US THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND WHO'S GOING TO BE DOING WHAT IF AT SOME POINT WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE SOME KIND OF A BREAKDOWN? AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THAT RESPECT THAT THEY BOTH DESERVE WHEN IT COMES TO BARBARA AND FOR DEBBIE. SO IF WE CAN PLEASE SEPARATE THAT CLEARLY SO THAT WE CAN RESPECT BOTH OF THEIR POSITIONS, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT TO AN INCIDENT JUST HAPPENED WHILE WE WERE HERE THAT WAS NOT EVEN PLANNED ON BRINGING THIS UP. THE TRAIN GOT STUCK AND IT STOPPED IN THE MIDDLE. AND I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP MULTIPLE TIMES, AND I THINK WE NEED TO START BRINGING THIS UP AGAIN. THIS IS A PERFECT TIME TO BRING IT UP. WHAT ARE WE DOING IN TERMS OF EMERGENCY CARE SERVICES? IF THAT TRAIN GETS STUCK AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF EMERGENCY CARE OVER THOSE RAILROAD TRACKS? AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE'RE HERE, I'M A ATTENTION PROBLEMS. I'M SCROLLING AND I SEE THE TRAIN IS ACTUALLY STUCK OUT THERE AND I'M LIKE, GREAT, EVERYBODY'S HERE AND NOBODY HAS ANY IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE. SO MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD TIME THAT WE NEED TO START BRINGING THIS UP. EVERYBODY HAS A VOICE RECENTLY. I DON'T KNOW WHERE EVERYBODY CAME FROM, BUT THAT'S GREAT. LET'S START USING IT FOR THIS ALSO, BECAUSE WE DO NEED EMERGENCY CARE OVER THOSE RAILROAD TRACKS. THE FIREWORKS WAS AMAZING. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DIDN'T KNOW, LAST YEAR, MY HUSBAND AND I CAME TO SEE THE VILLAGE BEFORE WE MOVED IN. AT THE END OF THE MONTH. WE WANTED TO SEE WHAT IT WAS ABOUT, AND IT WAS ABOUT FOUR TIMES THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE LAST YEAR. SO THAT WAS AMAZING. SO THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE, INSIDE, IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT WAS JUST AWESOME. WE DO NEED SOME MORE MUSIC THOUGH. THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. WHAT ELSE? THERE'S SO MANY THINGS. OKAY, THERE WAS ANOTHER THING I KNOW, BARBARA, THAT OH, TAXES. IN TERMS OF TAXES, I'M SUPER EXCITED THAT WE ONLY HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S HOMESTEAD BECAUSE EVERYBODY LIVES HERE. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY A PRO FOR MY SIDE, BECAUSE THAT MEANS EVERYBODY THAT LIVES HERE LIVES HERE. IT'S NOT FROM OUTSIDE. ON THE NEGATIVE SIDE EVENTUALITY IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE APARTMENTS BEING BUILT AT TERRA LAGO PRO NEGATIVE, YOU KNOW, CUP HALF FULL OR HALF EMPTY WHICH HOPING THAT THAT COMES IN WITH MORE TAXES, MORE REVENUE, MORE PEOPLE COMING IN. AND THEN WHO AT WHAT POINT CAN WE HAVE A SEMI BREAKDOWN AND WHO CAN DO THAT OF LIKE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COMING IN? I KNOW THE CHICKEN BEFORE THE EGG, LIKE WE NEED THE WATER BEFORE THE BUILDING, THE BUILDING. THEN THEY COME. SO WHO, WHEN, WHEN, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OR WHAT POINT WE'RE GOING TO START BUILDING OTHER THINGS BESIDES OUR WONDERFUL, BEAUTIFUL HOMES THAT WE HAVE GOING ON. IF SOMEBODY CAN GIVE THAT BREAKDOWN. AND THANK YOU GUYS. AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY TRYING TO VOICE THEIR OPINION AND. OKAY, I'LL TALK TO YOU LATER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT'S IT. CORRECT? YES.OKAY. SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.
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