DOES THIS SHOW US? CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. ROLL CALL PLEASE. MAYOR DEPAOLO HERE.
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VICE MAYOR WATERS BROWN HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. PEREZ HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIAMS. PALMER HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SAWYER HERE. OKAY, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO OUR JUNE 25TH INDIAN TOWN VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING. I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU. SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES, PLEASE. BATHROOM IS LOCATED ON THE END OF THE HALL TO THE RIGHT. EXIT SIGNS. EXIT DOORS ARE BOTH ENDS OF THE CORRIDOR. TONIGHT YOU'LL HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK. THE FIRST WILL BE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT SEGMENT WHERE YOU CAN SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC THAT IS NOT AN AGENDA ITEM. THE SECOND WILL BE DURING THE AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSION. THIS TIME YOU CAN COMMENT ON THAT ITEM. THERE'LL BE A SEGMENT PRIOR TO THE CLOSE OF THE MEETING. FOR ANY LATE COMERS THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO SPEAK, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES IN EACH SEGMENT. PLEASE ADHERE TO OUR CIVILITY PRACTICE IN THIS AND ALL COUNCIL MEETINGS. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE FILL OUT AN INVITATION CARD THAT ARE LOCATED ON THE BACK TABLE AND HAND IT TO THE CLERK. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO STAND FOR THE INVOCATION GIVEN BY PASTOR WILLIAMS, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. OUR KIND FATHER IN HEAVEN. WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR OUR BLESSINGS, THAT WE HAVE THE FREEDOM TO EXPRESS OUR OUR DESIRES, OUR THOUGHTS, OUR FEELINGS. WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO THIS. AND WE'RE.WE'RE ALSO ESPECIALLY GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE A PLACE TO MEET AND THAT WE HAVE HARD WORKING LEADERS HERE TO TO HELP PULL EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND HELP IMPROVE LIFE HERE IN INDIANTOWN.
WE ASK THAT THY SPIRIT BE WITH US IN MEETING, THAT WE MAY MOVE FORWARD, THAT WE MAY HELP INDIAN TOWN GROW AND MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE PLEASING UNTO THEE, BUT PLEASING UNTO THE PEOPLE OF INDIANTOWN AS WELL. AND WE PRAY THAT THERE WILL BE NO CONTENTION AND THAT WE WILL WORK TOGETHER TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. AND THIS WE PRAY IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. AMEN, AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, ITEMS OR MODIFICATIONS? NO, SIR. OKAY. WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC
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COMMENTS. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? YES, SIR. WE HAVE MISS MELISSA HAGUE. OKAY. WELCOME MELISSA HAGUE. NON-AGENDA, NON-AGENDA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. I JUST WANT TO RETURN TO MY PRIOR REQUEST FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE PAUSE AND A PUBLIC HEARING ON DATA CENTERS TO BE ISSUED. I PUT A PROPOSAL IN. NOW, WE'VE HAD DIFFERENT INFORMATION COME IN FROM HERNANDO, AND THOSE AGREEMENTS NOW ARE LOOKING TIGHTER, FIRMER, MORE INVOLVED AND A BIT SAFER. I WOULD LIKE THE VILLAGE TO REVIEW WATER CONCERNS, ELECTRIC LOAD CONCERNS, NOISE CONCERNS, LAND USE, COMPATIBILITY CONCERNS, EMERGENCY SERVICE IMPACTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACTS. I'D LIKE THE STAFF TO PREPARE CODE AMENDMENTS, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS, TECHNICAL STUDIES, PUBLIC WORKSHOPS AND HARDSHIP RELIEF PROVISIONS. THAT SAFETY VALVE THAT IS NEEDED AGAINST ANY CLAIMS OF UNFAIR TREATMENT.LET THE RECORD STATE I AM NOT LOOKING FOR A BAN OR TO PROHIBIT ANY INDUSTRY. THE PURPOSE IS TO STUDY AND REGULATE, TO PUT GUARDRAILS AND SAFEGUARD FOR FUTURE GROWTH. IT WOULD ONLY LAST FOR 12 MONTHS. IT WOULD NOT AUTOMATICALLY EXPIRED, BUT IT CAN, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE VILLAGE CHOOSES TO DO. AGAIN, I COME BACK AND ANOTHER ITEM THE RAC, THE RESIDENT ADVISORY COUNCIL. I'D LIKE AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THAT CONSIDERATION, PLEASE. AND FOR CLARITY, RECENTLY WE'VE BEEN FINDING OUT SOME INFORMATION AT THE JOINT COUNTY MEETING THAT THE HAZMAT NEW FIRE STATION ARE HAVING GRANTS APPLIED TOWARDS THEM ARE APPLIED FOR. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO HANDLED THE PRIOR SPILLS THAT HAPPENED ON 710 ON HAZMAT AND EVEN THE SPILLS. NOW, IS THAT THE VILLAGE'S RESPONSIBILITY OR THE STATE'S OR THE COUNTY'S? IS THERE A CONCERN THAT MORE HAZMAT MAY BE NEEDED, MORE RISK FOR NOW, FROM WHERE? SEVEN, TEN OR OTHER AREAS? WHY IS THERE A BUILDING GRANT SIGNED OFF FOR THIS BY THE VILLAGE STAFF? WERE THE VILLAGE COUNCIL AWARE THAT THAT GRANT WAS GOING TO BE APPLIED FOR? WAS THIS STATION A PART OF A PRIOR PUD? IS THE VILLAGE HELPING ANY RESIDENT BUSINESSES WITH THEIR GRANTS AND SUBMITTING THEM ON THEIR BEHALF, OR JUST LARGE LOAD CUSTOMERS OR
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HUGE UTILITIES? IS THERE A MASTER LIST OF GRANTS SITTING SOMEWHERE SO THAT THE PUBLIC AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN HAVE A LOOK AT IT, AND TO SEE WHAT'S BEING PUT FORWARD AT ALL TIMES? DOES THE COUNCIL REVIEW WHAT THE VILLAGE STAFF ARE APPLYING FOR PRIOR TO THE APPLICATIONS BEING SUBMITTED SO THAT YOU KNOW WHAT IS BEING DONE? DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THAT MASTER LIST TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS BEFOREHAND, INSTEAD OF RIGHT? WHEN SOMEONE BRINGS IT TO YOU AND LETS YOU FIND OUT? TODAY THE GOVERNOR SIGNED A SENATE BILL FOUR F, WHICH IS GOING TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO RAISE PROPERTY TAX BURDENS ON FLORIDA HOMEOWNERS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, HE SIGNED HB 1329. THIS IS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY ACT. UNDER THIS LAW, COUNTIES AND CITIES WILL BE REQUIRED TO PUT THEIR FINANCIAL INFORMATION ONLINE IN A FORMAT THAT ALL FLORIDIANS CAN EASILY REVIEW. IT REQUIRES LOCAL OFFICIALS TO CONDUCT BUDGET CUTTING EXERCISES TO REDUCE THE TENTATIVE BUDGET BY 10%, WITHOUT COMPROMISING ESSENTIAL PUBLIC SERVICES BEFORE YOUR FINAL BUDGET ADOPTION. IT IS TO BE IMPLEMENTED BY JANUARY 2027.THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR. BRANDON. BOY, WE LOVE TO TALK, DON'T WE? SO I HAD SOME FOOTBALL PLAYERS COME TO MY HOUSE AND THEY WERE WONDERING IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT THEY COULD DO SO THAT THEY COULD GET MONEY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EQUIPMENT, THEY DON'T HAVE PADS, THEY DON'T HAVE HELMETS, THEY DON'T HAVE CLEATS. SO I LET THEM WASH THE CARS. AND WHILE THE CAR WASHING THEY DID LEFT SOMETHING TO BE DESIRED. THEY WERE GENTLEMEN. AND I THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR THE VILLAGE TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT VACANCY OR. PERHAPS AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE SOMETHING WITH. I BELIEVE IT WAS THE INDIAN TOWN THUNDERBIRDS, I BELIEVE SO. I'M NOT GOING TO RECOMMEND ANYTHING FOR WHERE THEY PLAY, BECAUSE THAT WOULD THEN GET ME THROWN OUT BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'S AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT THERE MIGHT BE SOMEWHERE THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THEM A LITTLE BIT CLOSER SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO SO FAR TO PLAY A HOME GAME, WHICH IS NOT ACTUALLY A HOME GAME. I'M INVESTED IN THESE YOUNG GENTLEMEN NOW, AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO WATCH THEM PLAY. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM OUT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. MAYBE THERE'S OTHER SPORTS PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN THE SAME BOAT THAT WE COULD HELP OUT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SORRY, I'M TRYING TO GET THIS RIGHT. FIRST. MR. ERIC MILLER. SORRY I MISSED YOU GUYS LAST WEEK, BUT GLAD TO SEE EVERYBODY'S HERE THIS WEEK. WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT SB 484 AND THE PERJURY BETWEEN 180 AND EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS THERE. AND WE NOW START TO SEE IS AGAIN, EFFICACY, TRUTH'S EFFICACY. IT'S TIME. TIME TELLS THE TRUTH. ALL THE WAY ALONG. WE HAVE THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF THE GREAT STATE OF FLORIDA HERE ON THE 20TH FOR OUR TOWN HALL. IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU THERE, MISS PALMER. THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP. HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF TIME SPEAKING TO HIM ABOUT DATA CENTERS, AND LEARNED A WHOLE LOT ABOUT WHAT INTENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS. I'LL LEAVE THAT BETWEEN HIM AND I. BUT I LEARNED A WHOLE LOT, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN PROTECT THE PUBLIC. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO TELL ANYBODY THEY NEED TO GO AWAY.
IT JUST SAYS, WE'RE NOT READY FOR YOU YET. AND I THINK THAT THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE TAKEN BACK AND LOOKED AT AGAIN. AND WHEN WE DO, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL HAVE THE SENSE ABOUT YOU WHEN THE EXPERTS ARE PRESENTED TO YOU, TO DO A LITTLE BACKGROUND CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT INDUSTRY EXPERTS THAT ARE BEING PUT IN YOUR TABLE, AND YOU WILL ACCEPT INFORMATION FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND PUBLIC RECORD ON WHAT EXISTS OUTSIDE OF THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE THAT'S GOING ON HERE. THE OTHER THING IS THERE'S A PIECE TO THE AGENDA TONIGHT THAT SHOWED UP THAT WASN'T IN THE AGENDA PACKET, JUST FYI, SO EVERYONE KNOWS. ALSO, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOUR FINANCE DIRECTOR. HE'S BEEN WORKING WITH ME ON SOLVING SOME OF THE IT ISSUES THAT I AM PERSONALLY EXPERIENCING, NOT ONLY WITH EMAIL, BUT WITH THE WATER SYSTEM. I HAVE A RELATIVE NOW THAT'S ELDERLY AND ON A FIXED INCOME THAT IS USING THE UTILITIES HERE AND YOUR SOFTWARE. AND IT'S BEEN AN EXPERIENCE, BUT IT HAS BEEN HANDLED PROFESSIONALLY. AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF IT HAS BEEN HANDLED OR IF THE EXPERIENCE
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HAS HAPPENED ONCE, I'M BETTING IT'S HAPPENING MORE THAN ONCE. AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW HOW CAN'T OR ARE AFRAID TO SPEAK UP. SO WE NEED TO LITTLE FOCUS. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE ALL UNDERSTAFFED AND THERE'S TOO MUCH WORK AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF, BUT THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE, LET'S START PUTTING THEM THERE FIRST. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT SIR.THAT'S IT. OKAY. ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS? NOTHING. COMMENTS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS? I HAVE A
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COUPLE. OKAY. GO AHEAD. MIKE, I'M SORRY. OKAY. SO. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS LATER.SO I'M NOT GOING TO COME UP WITH THAT WITH THIS. I WOULD LIKE IF WE CAN. WE'VE WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING PUTTING TOGETHER A MEETING FOR ALL OF US, AN INFORMATIVE MEETING ON SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE CONTINUALLY BEING BROUGHT BEFORE US. WE HAVE NOT PUT ANYTHING IN STONE FOR THIS MEETING. I'D LIKE TO GET SOMETHING DONE IN JULY OR EARLY AUGUST, SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOU GUYS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL CAN DO, AND THEN WE NEED TO PUT TOGETHER SOME EXPERTS. AS ERIC WAS TALKING ABOUT, THAT CAN ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS THAT I KNOW WE ALL HAVE. OKAY. THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE, BUT WE, WE JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO SIFT THROUGH THAT. I'D LIKE FOR IT TO BE A PUBLIC MEETING.
AND I WOULD LIKE, LIKE I SAID, FOR IT TO TAKE PLACE BEFORE, BEFORE THE SECOND WEEK OF AUGUST, THINKING LIKE ON A SATURDAY OR DURING THE WEEK OR WHAT WOULD WHATEVER EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO. I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. IT NEEDS TO BE SEVERAL HOURS. SO I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I WANT I DON'T WANT TO FEEL RUSHED. I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE LIKE A FACILITATED. WE'RE JUST SITTING THERE BEING FED INFORMATION. I WANT A QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION INTERACTIVE, INTERACTIVE. I THINK WE ALL HAVE QUESTIONS. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE BEEN GETTING ANSWERS FROM, BUT I THINK WE ALL NEED TO GET THE ANSWERS. WE ALL NEED TO HEAR IT IN. THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO HEAR SOME OF THE ANSWERS AS WELL. SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT PUT ON THE BOOKS AND WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT TO DO, I'LL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE. OKAY, SO I'LL SEND OUT, YOU KNOW, JUST SEE WHAT THE AVAILABILITY IS FOR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. I WOULD SAY IN ORDER TO GET EXPERT PEOPLE HERE, WE'RE GOING TO NEED AT LEAST A COUPLE OF WEEKS. SO PROBABLY MID JULY TO EARLY AUGUST. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN WE CAN LET THE PUBLIC KNOW ABOUT IT WITH PLENTY OF TIME AS WELL.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO SAY IS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID NOTICE IS HE DID GIVE OUR HE DID GIVE SOME BACKUP TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN BEING TOLD ABOUT LEGALITIES. SO MR. VOSS HAS KIND OF INDICATED THERE. I FOUND THAT HE WAS. HE'S NOT PRO OR AGAINST. IT DIDN'T APPEAR FOR DATA CENTERS.
HE JUST WANTS THE SAFEGUARDS THAT I THINK WE ALL ARE INTERESTED IN. SO I WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER AND HAVING HIM OUT. AND THEN I'LL ADDRESS THE OTHER TWO THINGS AS WE GO THROUGH THE THE ITEMS. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. I HAVE A COMMENT. NO, NO COMMITTEE REPORT. AND I KNOW IS IT I THINK THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO ASK THIS QUESTION CONCERNING THE DATA CENTER. I, I AM SAYING THAT WE NEED TO I KNOW YOU SAID LAST LAST TIME WE WAS HERE WAY ABOUT THE THE MONITOR MORATORIUM. AND I'M REALLY, REALLY IN FAVOR OF DOING THAT. AND JUST, JUST BECAUSE OF TO THE HILL. HOLD ON. WAIT A MINUTE. I WROTE IT DOWN HERNANDO COUNTY. OKAY. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, BASED ON WHAT THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR WAS SAYING, THAT THAT CAN BE DONE. AND AND WE NEED TO WE REALLY NEED TO STOP WE REALLY NEED TO PUT A PAUSE ON THAT BECAUSE TOO MUCH, TOO MUCH IS BEING SAID AND DONE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S TRUE, WHAT'S FALSE. AND I HAPPEN TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO A RESEARCHER. AND NOT ONLY IS SHE A RESEARCHER, BUT SHE'S AN ATTORNEY AS WELL. AND, AND SHE WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING JUST TO LOOK AND LOOK AND LOOKING. AND SHE BROUGHT BROUGHT ME SOME INFORMATION. AND IT'S NOT ILLEGAL. AND BASED ON WHAT THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR WAS SAYING,
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IS THAT WILL THE STATE DO A PUSHBACK OR NOT? NOBODY KNOWS. OKAY. IT HASN'T BEEN DONE AND THEY'RE NOT AGAINST IT. SO IF NOTHING ELSE, THE CITIZENS NEED TO KNOW THAT WE HEAR THEM AND THEY ARE ASKING, CAN Y'ALL JUST HOLD ON A MINUTE? AND, AND WHOEVER THE END USER IS, THEY NEED TO COME FORTH AND ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS. AND I AGREE WITH KAREN, COUNCILWOMAN, WE NEED GOD GUARDRAILS. WE WHAT, WHAT IF THE THE DATA CENTER, THE WHOEVER THE END USER IS DECIDE AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'RE DONE HERE. THEN WHAT ABOUT THAT PROPERTY? WHAT CAN BE BUILT ON THAT PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH IT BELONGS TO FPNL AT THE SAME TIME, WHAT HAVE THEY LEFT? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A BIG, BIG CENTER THAT MAYBE THEY ABANDONED? AND I KNOW THESE ARE WHAT IF QUESTIONS, BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION SIMPLY BECAUSE THE OUR CONSTITUENTS WANT TO KNOW. AND THAT'S FAIR. THAT'S FAIR. THEY WANT TO KNOW. SO IF WE IF WE IF WE IF WE CAUTION, IF IF WE IF WE CAUTION, YOU KNOW, IF WE MAKE AN ERROR, THAT'S OKAY. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE WE GAVE THE CONSTITUENTS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. AND WE HAVE TO DO THAT. AND THE OTHER THING, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS WATER.NOW, I, I LISTENED TO SOMETHING THAT YOU WAS ON THE THE JOINT MEETING, AND YOU HAD SAID THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE WATER CAPACITY FOR CERTAIN THINGS. OKAY. SO AND I KNOW WE GOT OTHER DEVELOPERS COMING IN AND IN HERE, WHERE DO THEY STAND? WE DON'T HAVE ANY WATER FOR THEM. SO WHAT WE GOT, WE MAKE IT VERY CLEAR WHEN THEY COME IN. WE JUST HAD A DEVELOPMENT REVIEW MEETING EARLIER THIS WEEK WITH TERRA LAGO COMING IN AND WANTING TO GO FORWARD WITH THEIR PHASE TWO AND THREE. AND WE MADE IT VERY CLEAR WE DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TODAY, BUT WE ARE NOT STOPPING. WE CONTINUE TO BUILD THE THE NEW WATER PLANT. WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING WATER PLANT THAT WILL HELP US THERE. AND SO WE WE HAVE MR. VOSS AND HIS OFFICE WORKING ON A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT THAT ESSENTIALLY ALLOWS FOR THEM TO CONTINUE THEIR PROJECTS AND UPON SITE PLAN APPROVAL, THEY WOULD GET THEY WOULD YOU KNOW, THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE WOULD KNOW HOW MANY EQUIVALENTS THEY NEED, AND THEN THEY WOULD PAY THEIR FEE AND THEY WOULD GO INTO THE QUEUE SO THAT WHEN WE'RE READY, THE PLANT, THE NEW PLANT WE'RE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE SIZED ADEQUATELY BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW TODAY AND WHAT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, BEEN ASKED ABOUT IN THE FUTURE. SO WE HAVE A MECHANISM IN PLACE FOR THEM TO KNOW THAT THEY WILL HAVE THOSE ERCS AVAILABLE TO THEM WHEN THEY'RE READY TO GO. NOW, NONE OF THESE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. AND SO WE'RE PROBABLY AN 18 MONTH WINDOW. HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR, WE CAN HAVE THAT NEW WATER PLANT. THEY CLEARED THE PROPERTY. THERE'S A SIGN ON THERE NOW. WE'RE HOPING TO CONTINUE TO RECEIVE FUNDING TO HELP US, BUT WE KNOW THE FUNDING THAT WE'VE GOTTEN SO FAR AND THAT WE HOPE TO GET IN THE FUTURE JUST MAY NOT BE ENOUGH. AND SO WE WILL BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU TO SAY, OKAY, HERE'S HERE'S WHERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO FINISH THIS PLANT? BECAUSE WE NEED THAT PLANT. OKAY. I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THIS HERE THAT WE ACCEPTED THIS $250,000, RIGHT? SO I REMEMBER ABOUT A YEAR OR SO AGO, MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO, WE HAD MONEY COMING IN FOR FOR PARKS. NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT HAS THAT MONEY BEEN EXHAUSTED FOR THE DIFFERENT PARTS? SO WHERE IS IT IN? AND, AND MAYBE I OVERLOOKED IT IF IS IT IN THE PUD. WHERE IS IT THAT WE HAVE TO USE THIS MONEY FOR PARTS? COULDN'T WE TAKE THIS MONEY AND USE FOR WATER? COUNCILMEMBER, I SORRY. SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT ITEM, I THINK WE CAN GET, WE CAN GET YEAH, WE CAN GET IN A LITTLE BIT MORE. I'M SORRY. YEAH, I KNOW WE CAN GET A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THAT. AND THAT DONATION IS TARGETED TO THAT PARTICULAR USE THERE. AND WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT OKAY, OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER, IF I COULD ADD ADD ON ONE THING, JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC TO WHAT TARYN WAS JUST REFERENCING CONCERNING WATER CAPACITY AND EVERYTHING TARYN SAID IS COMPLETELY CORRECT. BUT I WANT TO MAKE REALLY CLEAR FOR ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO IS LISTENING, WE HAVE COMPLETELY APPROPRIATE AND ADEQUATE CAPACITY FOR EVERYONE HOOKED UP TO THE WATER SYSTEM RIGHT NOW.
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ALL RIGHT, PEOPLE, PEOPLE HERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OUT OF CAPACITY. WE DON'T HAVE CAPACITY. I, I WORRY SOMETIMES FOLKS MIGHT THINK THEY TURN ON THE FAUCET AND THE WATER DOESN'T COME OUT SOMETIME. WE ARE COMPLETELY AT FULL AND APPROPRIATE CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE.EVERYBODY'S HOOKED UP, ALL RIGHT, AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL WHAT ARE CALLED ERCS EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNITS. BASICALLY THE GALLONS PER DAY THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED FOR THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED. THEY'VE ALREADY PAID THEIR CAPACITY CHARGES AND SO ON. THEY BOUGHT THEIR PIECE IN THE CURRENT PLANT, RIGHT? SO THE CURRENT SYSTEM, THE CURRENT WATER CAPACITY IS PERFECTLY GREAT WITH REGARD TO VOLUME OF WATER AND CAPACITY FOR EVERYBODY HOOKED UP. NOW, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT HASN'T RESERVED CAPACITY HOOKING UP. THAT IS WHEN WE'RE TELLING DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY COME IN AND WE'RE VERY CRYSTAL CLEAR WITH THEM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER CAPACITY TO GIVE OUT RIGHT NOW UNTIL THESE THINGS HAPPEN, WHICH IS WHY THE VILLAGE HAS BEEN DOING SO MUCH WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT CAPACITY, THAT NEW CAPACITY CAN COME ONLINE. SO I HOPE THAT HELPS TO GO BACK TO YOUR TO YOUR COMMENT PART OF THAT, THEN IF SO, IF SO, IF THEY COME IN WITH SITE PLAN APPROVAL, THEY GET APPROVED AND THEY WRITE A CHECK FOR THE NUMBER OF ERCS THAT THEY ARE SECURING. WE NOW HAVE SOME FUNDS THAT WE CAN THEN PUT TOWARD EITHER MATCHING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING OR, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES US THE ABILITY. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT A LIST, AND IT'S SIGNIFICANT THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT WE COULD COLLECT UP FRONT TO HELP US FINISH THAT PLAN. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS ONE OTHER THING WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT WATER QUALITY THAT WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT BECAUSE EVEN ON TODAY, I'VE HEARD THE RESIDENTS SAY THE WATER, ESPECIALLY OVER IN TERRA LAGO, IS NOT SUFFICIENT. THERE'S THERE IS AN EVEN IN INDIAN WOOD, BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING RASHES AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WHERE ARE WE WITH MAKING SURE WE HAVE GOOD WATER QUALITY? COMMISSIONER, WHEN YOU ACQUIRED WHEN THE COUNCIL ACQUIRED THAT PLANT, AS STATED IN MY OTHER DOCUMENTS, THERE WAS AN ENGINEER'S REPORT THAT SAID THE WATER IS SAFE, BUT THE QUALITY IS ESTHETICALLY POOR. THE WATER HERE IS HARD. THERE'S. THERE YOU'RE NEVER I MEAN, THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS 50, 60 YEARS OLD. YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE.
WE CAN BUILD THE GREATEST PLANT IN THE WORLD. BUT IF I'M PUSHING IT THROUGH A HUNDRED YEAR OLD RAIN, THAT WAS A STEAM PIPE THAT'S GOT CORROSION UNTIL WE CAN GET THAT PIPE REPLACED, WHICH WE'VE GOT GRANT FUNDING TO DO THAT. NOW, THE WATER IS GOING TO BE THE QUALITY THAT IT IS. I MEAN, MR. VOSS, YOU MIGHT I MEAN, EXPERIENCE MORE OF THIS IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. IT'S AN OLD SYSTEM. OKAY. SO WHEN THE PEOPLE I ALSO HEARD THIS FROM FROM THE FROM THE MEMBERS OF TERRA LAGO THAT THERE. AND I THINK THEY EVEN SPOKE HERE. THERE THEY ARE. THEY HAVE THEY'RE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY HAVE TO GET WATER SOFTENER PROGRAM. THAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
YEAH. OKAY, Y'ALL, I'M SORRY, I JUST OKAY, I THINK WE'RE GETTING WAY AHEAD HERE. I THINK WE NEED TO GET BACK TO BACK TO THE AGENDA. AND THEN WE CAN DO DISCUSSION ITEMS AT THE END.
YOU CAN WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? GO AHEAD. SO WHEN WE HOST OUR MEETING, ARE WE ABLE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION IN SPANISH AND AND HAVE A SPANISH TRANSLATOR? YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE WE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS SAID WE'RE NOT GETTING INFORMED. WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO THEY WANT TO HAVE INFORMATION. YEAH. WORKSHOP THAT WE YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. AND DON'T FORGET ABOUT CREOLE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE HAITIAN PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY AS WELL. SO I KNOW THAT'S A THAT'S A LOT. BUT WE, WE GOTTA TAKE CARE OF ALL THE PEOPLE ABOUT ITALIANS. WELL, YEAH, I, I CAN'T SPEAK ITALIAN, BUT YEAH. OKAY. I'M TRYING TO BE SLICK AND FUNNY. OKAY. ANY COMMENTS BY THE VILLAGE MANAGER? NO, SIR. OKAY. APPROVAL OF
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AGENDA. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION AND SECOND. ALL[APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]
IN FAVOR? AYE. PASSED UNANIMOUSLY APPROVAL OF REGULAR AGENDA. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ALL RIGHT. PASSED[Acceptance and Allocation of $250,000 Donation from the Florida Power & Light (FPL) NextEra Energy Foundation Pursuant to Tesoro Groves Planned Unit Development (PUD) Zoning Agreement]
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FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT COMPANY. YES. THE WHEN WE WERE WORKING WITH FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT ON THE TESORO GROVES, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT COMMUNITY BENEFIT. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IT TALKS ABOUT COMMUNITY BENEFIT. AND SO THE NEXTERA, FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT FOUNDATION HAS COME FORWARD AND HAS OFFERED TO ASSIST THE VILLAGE WITH IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ATHLETIC FIELDS AND TO THE TUNE OF THE $250,000 WE DID THIS WEEK, I RECEIVED FROM THEM THE A PROPOSED AGREEMENT. I'VE GIVEN YOU COPIES THERE FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES. MR. VOSS HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE TO FULLY REVIEW IT, SO WE WILL GIVE HIM THAT OPPORTUNITY AND THEN WE CAN PUT IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA FOR APPROVAL. BUT I WANTED YOU TO AT LEAST BE ABLE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM ON AS FAR AS THAT. AND AND MR. VOSS IS CORRECT. IT DOES LIMIT THIS TO RECREATIONAL AND AND WE CAN USE IT. I THINK COUNCILWOMAN PALMER WAS REFERRING TO PREVIOUS FUNDING FOR PARKS. THE ONLY FUNDING THAT I KNOW FOR PARKS THAT WAS. WELL, WE DID THE BOOKER PARK WITH THE PLAYGROUND AND STUFF. THAT WAS MONEY WE SAVED UP. BUT AT ONE POINT THERE WAS AN APPROPRIATION SET ASIDE FOR PARK IMPROVEMENTS, BUT IT GOT VETOED. SO YOU NEVER THAT DIDN'T COME TO FRUITION. SO THIS WOULD BE THE THE REAL FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD SOME KIND OF A GRANT, IF YOU WILL, AS FAR AS SPECIFICALLY TO IMPROVE THE SOCCER FIELDS. AND WE WE HAVE A QUOTE FROM A LOCAL VENDOR TO DO IT. AND THEN ALSO WE HAD A. THE FOLKS FROM GARCIA REACHED OUT AND SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING. THEY'VE DONE CLEARING FOR US BEFORE AT COST, THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO LOOK AT IT AND, AND GIVE US A COST AT THEIR COST. AND SO IF THAT TURNS OUT TO BE LESS EXPENSIVE, WE WILL BE RETURNING TO YOU WITH SOME KIND OF AN ARRANGEMENT, AGREEMENT OR WHATEVER. MR. VOSS LEGAL DOCUMENT WE NEED, AND THEN WE WILL PROCEED FROM THERE. THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. LESS EXPENSIVE. LESS EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT? THAN THE QUOTE WE GOT. SO RIGHT NOW, RIGHT NOW, THE QUOTE, THE QUOTE IS LIKE 3 OR 400 000 TO DO EVERYTHING. AND SO WE WOULD HAVE TO PICK AND CHOOSE. AND SO WE'RE WE WILL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL ONCE WE KNOW HOW MUCH WE HAVE, HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST, AND WHICH FIELDS ARE GOING TO THE WORST. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FOCUSING ON LETTING THE PARKS FOLKS, YOU KNOW, DETERMINE WHICH FIELDS NEED TO BE DONE FIRST. AND IT'S NOT JUST FIELDS. THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF OVER AT BIG MOUTH. OH, OKAY. THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR ME TO JUMP IN HERE REAL QUICK. I HAVE BEEN I'VE HEARD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE TIMING OF THIS, AND I WANT TO ALLEVIATE THOSE CONCERNS. FOR THOSE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONSHIP IN THE BACKGROUND WITH FPL AND INDIANTOWN. SO THERE'S BEEN SOME RUMOR MILL ABOUT THIS BEING A VERY CONVENIENTLY TIMED DONATION. BUT WHAT I WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT FPL HAS BEEN CONTRIBUTING TO THIS VILLAGE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. THEY PROVIDED US WITH OUR VERY FIRST AMBULANCE MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. THEY HAVE REFURBISHED THE CIVIC CENTER. THEY HELPED GET THE YMCA FINISHED HERE. THEY REFURBISHED THE COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER. THEY CLEARED THE ROGER'S QUARTERS, WHICH, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT WAS THE AREA WHERE THE LITTLE SHEDS WERE, THE LITTLE SHED HOUSING THAT IN BOOKER PARK, THEY PAID FOR THAT CLEANUP. THEY DID THE BARLEY BARBER SWAMP PRESERVE. THEY DID. THEY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS IN UP TO HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS HAVE BEEN CONTRIBUTED TO A LOT OF 501 C THREE TYPE ORGANIZATIONS. THEY EVEN CONTRIBUTED TO MISS THELMA WATERS MEMORIAL SERVICE, OUR INDIAN TOWN PARADE, THE RODEO DENIM AND DIAMONDS SCHOLARSHIP FUND, SCHOOL SUPPLY DRIVE, COMMUNITY BARBECUES, FESTIVALS, COMMUNITY FORUMS, TOWN HALLS, INDEPENDENCE DAY CELEBRATIONS, SMALL BUSINESS WEEK AND INDUSTRY TOURS, ANNUAL KID'S FISHING TOURNAMENTS, CHARITY GOLF TOURNAMENTS, MONTHLY MEMBERSHIP NETWORK EVENTS, ANNUAL BUSINESS DINNER AWARDS AND THE IVEY, A $10,000 THAT[00:30:06]
WAS GIVEN TO YOU. CORRECT. THE INDIAN TOWN EDUCATION COALITION TEACHER APPRECIATION WEEK ADOPT A CLASS AT WARFIELD AND MIDDLE SCHOOL PROJECT GRADUATION, INDIANTOWN YOUTH ATHLETICS, LITTLE LEAGUE FOOTBALL, SOCCER AND MORE. THE INDIAN TOWN KIWANIS CLUB, THE INDIANTOWN CIVIC CENTER AND THE INDIANTOWN JAYCEES. THIS IS A RELATIONSHIP THAT GOES WAY BACK AND IS CONTINUOUS. THEY ALSO PUT $1 MILLION IN AN INDIAN TOWN TRUST FUND, WHICH OVER 30 YEARS EARNED INTEREST, THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF GRANT PROGRAMS THROUGH THAT, THROUGH THAT TRUST. AND THEY ALSO SUPPORT THE HERITAGE FESTIVAL. SO THEY ARE A PARTNER WITH US FOR A VERY LONG TIME. THERE'S NOT ANY QUID PRO QUO WITH THIS DONATION.THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY DO ALL THE TIME. THIS IS A NEED THAT THEY SEE THAT THEY'VE STEPPED UP TO, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER THIS ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION FOR OUR KIDS. AND THIS IS THEY'RE PARTNERING WITH US YET AGAIN. SO I DO WANT TO DISPEL THOSE RUMORS THAT THIS IS SOMEHOW A, A PAYOFF FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE, OF THE THE PUTT. AND I'LL WAIT TILL WE GET TO THE NEXT ITEM TO, TO SAY WHAT I'VE GOT TO SAY ON THAT. OKAY, I HAVE HAVE WE GOTTEN TO THIS PART? THERE'S THERE'S $250,000. OKAY, GREAT. HOLD ON. SO NOW HERE IT SAYS TO THE USE THIS MONEY TO ADJUST THE 2020 526 BUDGET. NOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUDGET HAS ALREADY BEEN PASSED. THAT WAS LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, RIGHT. SO LEGALLY, HOW CAN WE GO BACKWARDS AND ADJUST THAT? OKAY, YOU CAN DO THAT. IT'S JUST A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
WE DO WE DO THEM FROM TIME TO TIME. IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO TO MODIFY YOUR BUDGET IF WE RECEIVE IT IN JULY. AND IF WE START UTILIZING THOSE FUNDS, MR. FLORIO IS EXTREMELY CAPABLE IN HIS FINANCIAL ABILITIES THAT HE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE DO EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO TO SATISFY OUR AUDITORS AND MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS ALLOCATED APPROPRIATELY. AND THE OTHER THING, I DON'T KNOW IF WE REALLY DEALT WITH IT LAST TIME. CONCERNING PRIMARY, MISS CLAUDIUS WANTED PRIMARY USAGE TO THESE FIELDS, AND I THINK THAT WAS A NO GO THAT IT FEELS WOULD REMAIN UNDER MISS RUSSO'S CONTROL, CORRECT? YES, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ISSUE THAT THAT PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED THAT WHATEVER WHATEVER MONIES OR FRIENDSHIPS OR INFLUENCES WOULD BE GATHERED AND, AND, YOU KNOW, BY HER AND THE, YOU KNOW, JUST A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR THAT WILL REMAIN UNDER MISS RUSSO'S CONTROL. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO BRING UP ONE THING THAT SHE'S JUST BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE ACCOUNTING FOR THIS. I SPOKE TO MR. FLORIO, AND HE'S HERE SO WE CAN ASK HIM DIRECTLY. DO YOU MIND? SURE. THERE WAS A QUESTION AS TO HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE THESE FUNDS AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO SHOW UP ON THE BOOKS. THERE WAS A PUBLIC QUESTION AS TO WHETHER THE $250,000 WOULD SHOW UP ALL AT ONCE, OR WOULD IT BE PUT ON, AS WE RECEIVE IT, $50,000 OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT? SURE. SO THE THE LETTER, THE MEMORANDUM EXPLAINS IT WOULD BE $50,000 OVER FIVE YEARS. THE FIRST PAYMENT WOULD BE RECEIVED IN JULY OF THIS YEAR. NEXT MONTH. I DON'T KNOW THE TIMING OF EXPENDITURES ON WHEN WE WOULD START INCURRING EXPENDITURES FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS AT BIG MOUND PARK. BUT THE WAY THIS NORMALLY WORKS IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MATCHING CONCEPT IN PLACE. SO YOU'RE GOING TO MATCH THE RECEIPT OF THE REVENUES THAT COME IN AGAINST THE EXPENDITURES THAT ARE INCURRED AGAINST THE ACTUAL APPROVED, AUTHORIZED COSTS THAT ARE PER THE AGREEMENT. SO UNTIL WE HAVE MATCHING EXPENDITURES, THESE WILL BE A LIABILITY ON OUR BOOKS. THEY WILL BE WHAT WE CALL UNEARNED REVENUE. REVENUE.
YEAH, YEAH. SO THAT WOULD BE FOR EACH YEAR THAT WE GET THE MONEY. SO EACH YEAR THEY WOULD ONLY BE A REVENUE RECOGNITION PROCESS UP TO THE EXTENT OF THE $50,000. AS LONG AS WE HAD MATCHING EXPENDITURES, AS WE SPEND, AS WE SPEND IT. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. I HAVE A QUESTION ON. FIRST OF ALL, MARSHALL AND FLORIDA POWER. WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE FUNDING IS TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE VILLAGE IN INCREMENTS OF $50,000 PER YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS THAT I UNDERSTAND. AND IT SAYS STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE
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DO THE MULTI-PURPOSE ATHLETIC FIELD AT BIG MOUND PARK. WE HAVE A PARKS AND REC BOARD THAT EACH ONE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS ASKED ONE OF THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS TO SIT ON THAT BOARD.WHAT IS THAT BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY, AND DID THE BOARD RECOMMEND THIS, OR DID STAFF RECOMMEND THIS? WE HAD BEEN HERE FOR FOR ME, WE'D BEEN HEARING FOR FROM PARTICULARLY COUNCILWOMAN PEREZ, ABOUT THE CONDITIONS OF BIG MOUND PARK AND THE KIDS NOT BEING ABLE TO PLAY ON THAT PARK. AND WE KNOW THAT THOSE ARE THE MOST UTILIZED PARKS. AND SO WE'VE KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME THAT THOSE PARKS NEED TO BE THE FOCUS OF REPAIR INITIALLY. SO I DON'T BELIEVE I DON'T KNOW IF IF MISS RUSSO'S DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE PRAB OR NOT. I DON'T ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS. BUT WE WERE LOOKING AT BECAUSE I SAID TO THEM, WHAT'S OUR WORST NEED TODAY IN BIG MOUND PARK WAS THE NEED I UNDERSTOOD. I HAVE NO OBJECTION ABOUT WHO IN WHO NEEDS THE WORST, AND I. THAT'S NOT IT. WE HAVE A MASTER PLAN FOR PARKS AND REC THAT IS ON THE WEBSITE. MR. VOSS, TELL ME WHAT THE DUTIES ARE FOR PARK AND REC BOARD MEMBERS. I HAVE MINE HERE, BY THE WAY. WHAT'S THAT? MY MY APPOINTEE IS HERE TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.
UNDERSTOOD. SO I ACTUALLY HAVE UP THEIR RESOLUTION CREATING THE PRAB. IT'S A LITTLE LONG, BUT I'LL GO THROUGH JUST ALL THEIR DUTIES. PRAB SHALL. DUTIES OF THE PRAB SHALL INCLUDE SERVING IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL AND PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT REGARDING PUBLIC PARK AND RECREATION DECISIONS, INCLUDING EVALUATING SITES TO BE INCLUDED IN THE VILLAGE'S LONG RANGE. PLANS FOR PARKS SHOULD MEET ON A REGULAR BASIS TO EVALUATE THE MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING SITES. FACILITIES AND PROGRAMS RECOMMEND THE EXPANSION AND RETRACTION OF RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND PROGRAMS. EVALUATE THE CAPITAL NEEDS REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THE VILLAGE'S RECREATIONAL LEVEL OF SERVICE, AND PROVIDE INPUT TO THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWNS. FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THE DUTIES OF THE PARABOLA ALSO INCLUDE ADVISING THE VILLAGE COUNCIL ON THE PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN, AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS ON PROGRAMS, SERVICES, ACQUISITION AND USES OF PARKLAND, SPORTS AND RECREATION FACILITIES, AS WELL AS OTHER SUCH DUTIES AS MAY BE ASSIGNED BY THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE REASON I ASKED FOR THAT WAS WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT WE DON'T HAVE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. WE DON'T HAVE VOLUNTEERS. WE DON'T HAVE THIS. WE NOW HAVE FIVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS INVOLVED ON THE BOARD, THE PARKS AND REC BOARD. MY APPOINTEE HAD NEVER HEARD OF THIS UNTIL I READ IT TO HIM. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO USE OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WE NEED TO CAPITALIZE ON WHAT THEY FEEL AND WHAT THEY THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THEM. AND THEY MADE THE PRESENTATION OR THE RECOMMENDATION, NOT THE SPORT, NOT DIRECTOR OF SPORTS.
WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE MY APPOINTEE COME UP AND SPEAK TO THIS AS, AS A PRESENTATION, RATHER THAN A THREE MINUTE COMMENT, SO THAT YOU CAN ASK HIM QUESTIONS? I'D LIKE TO, IF YOU WOULD. THIS. HE DOESN'T NEED HIS THREE MINUTES. HOW Y'ALL DOING WYATT HENDRIE I METAL WORKS SOME PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD AND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. ANY QUESTIONS I CAN DIRECTLY ANSWER I GUESS FOR FOR US. WYATT, HAVE YOU ALL HAD CONVERSATIONS THROUGHOUT YOUR GROUP AS FAR AS WHAT FIELDS? THE CONDITION OF THE FIELDS.
YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE? WE HAVE, AND A LOT OF IT IS FUNDING, I FEEL LIKE IS FOR FROM WHAT BEING MISS RIZZO'S HAS TALKED ABOUT, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING FOR EVERYTHING AND A LOT OF IT WE NEED TO DO. THEY'RE IN DISREPAIR IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS FOR FOOTBALL, FOR FOR WHAT YOU CALL IT, BASEBALL. SOCCER IS THE MAIN THING OUT HERE. SOCCER, THEY NEED A LOT MORE SPACE FOR THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS. AND FOOTBALL, WHICH I FEEL LIKE WE NEED A LOT MORE OF. ALSO, BECAUSE IT'S A BIG SPORT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AT LEAST. WHY? I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU A SPECIFIC QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. THIS $250,000 FROM FPNL WHERE DID THE BOARD TALK ABOUT THAT? AS TO WHERE THE MONIES WOULD BE ALLOCATED, I, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET. I, I'LL, WE ALSO CANCELED OUR LAST ONE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM. CORRECT. I REMEMBER THAT AND, AND I WENT AHEAD AND PUT IT ON
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HERE JUST SO THAT A WE COULD, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT IT. JULY 1ST IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AND I DID NOT I WANTED YOU ALL TO BE AWARE OF IT BECAUSE IT WAS OUT THERE. WE RECEIVED A LETTER AND BEFORE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I JUST DID THE AGENDA ITEM FOR IT. OKAY. GO AHEAD.SORRY. OKAY. I THINK WE'RE GETTING OUT OF THIS HERE BECAUSE MR. MR. VOSS NEEDS TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION REAL QUICK, THOUGH. I THINK I THINK I WAS ABOUT TO SAY I THINK EXACTLY WHERE THE MAYOR'S GOING. I WAS JUST GOING TO SUGGEST THAT THAT I THINK WE NEED TO BREAK THIS APART INTO TWO THINGS. WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS FPL HAS OFFERED TO GIVE THE VILLAGE $250,000 FOR PARKS. AND IT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO SAY, YES. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. AND THEN AND YOU HAVE ALSO IN THE IN AGENDA ITEM, JUST DESCRIBING WHAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION DOWN THE LINE, WHERE IT WOULD GO. BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS, YOU KNOW, LET THEM TALK ABOUT IT. WE'VE GOT THIS GREAT STUFF, 250,000 COMING IN, GET THEIR RECOMMENDATION, AND I MAKE A MOTION. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY. GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE. YEAH. WELL, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. YES WE WILL. PUBLIC COMMENT WILL COME JUST OKAY. I MADE THE MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT. WE GOT A MOTION. WE GOT A SECOND. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE NOT TAKING A VOTE.
WE GOT A MOTION. WE GOT A SECOND. PUBLIC COMMENTS. YES. GIVE ME. YOU WANT TO RUN THE MEETING FOR ME? SURE. ALL RIGHT, COME ON, COME ON, COME ON UP HERE. PLEASE. SO WE'RE GONNA DO PUBLIC COMMENT NOW. ONE SECOND. MELISSA. HEY. OKAY, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE CONDITION, THE LEGAL CONDITION UNDER THE FPL PUD CONTAIN NO SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THEN BECAME $250,000. COMMITMENT PAYABLE OVER FIVE YEARS. WHEN THE ACTUAL PUD DOES NOT GIVE A DESIGNATION, IT DOES NOT GIVE AN AMOUNT. IT DOESN'T GIVE A METRIC, IT DOESN'T GIVE A DESIGNATION TO IT OTHER THAN A BROAD DESIGNATION FOR THE BENEFIT OF CERTAIN THINGS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. IT DOES NOT STIPULATE PARKS. NOW, HERE'S THE THING. I DON'T MIND THAT THE CHILDREN NEED PARKS, BUT IS THERE THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT DONE TO SEE MAYBE WATER NEEDS IT? MAYBE THERE ARE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES THAT CAN BE HANDLED FIRST, THAT ARE MORE SERIOUS, THAT AFFECT MORE PEOPLE. EVERYONE IN THIS VILLAGE, EVERY LIVING SOUL DRINKS WATER. NOT EVERY LIVING SOUL IS GOING TO USE THE PARK. WHO MADE THAT DECISION? IT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE WE. KAREN SAID, WHO'S WE? WHO ARE THE WE'S THAT MADE THE DECISION. IF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING ON THAT COMMITTEE WERE NOT EVEN AWARE. THAT DOCUMENT WAS ISSUED BY FPL ON JUNE 8TH, THERE'S BEEN PLENTY OF TIME FOR THIS TO BE DISCUSSED. AMONG THOSE COMMITTEES AND GROUPS. IT WAS NOT IF IT'S NOT KNOWN BY THEM NOW, WHICH HAS JUST BEEN STATED, I'D LIKE TO KNOW, GIVEN THAT PUBLIC LANGUAGE, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT'S REASONABLY PROPORTIONATE TO THE IMPACTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT? WHAT'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED? ARE THERE GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS THAT COME BACK FORWARD? BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER IMPLICATIONS OF PROPORTIONATE IMPACTS? DID THE STAFF AND THE COUNCIL KNOW AT THE SAME TIME THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE $250,000 DONE AT 5000 EVERY DAY FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? FPL IS NOT DOING A DONATION. THIS IS A LEGAL CONDITION OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IN THE PUD. IT'S NOT A DONATION. SO I APPRECIATE ALL THAT THEY'VE DONE. I DO, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A CHARITABLE DONATION HERE TO THE POOR LITTLE VILLAGE. THIS IS A CONTINGENCY THAT IS IN THE LEGAL PUD THAT THEY MUST MEET IN ORDER TO GET THAT CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. SO LET'S MAKE THAT CLEAR. THIS IS A BUSINESS ARRANGEMENT. THIS ISN'T A CHARITABLE DONATION BY ANY MEANS. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER, YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT WITH THAT MONEY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO DO ANYTHING TO HELP THE RESIDENTS OFFSET THE COST. DO YOU KNOW THAT THAT HARD SCALE WATER IS NOT JUST AN ESTHETIC ISSUE? IT AFFECTS YOUR PIPES, YOUR PLUMBING, YOUR ALL OF YOUR UTILITIES INSIDE YOUR HOUSE, YOUR WATER HEATER. DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT COST THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS ON A HARD WATER LIKE INDIANTOWN HAS 1500 TO $3500 A YEAR, AND THAT GOES UP EXPONENTIALLY OVER THE YEARS. BUT TO BE TOLD, THEY'RE EASIER AND MORE COST EFFECTIVE WAYS TO DO IT, WHEN THERE'S THIS MONEY SITTING HERE THAT MAYBE YOUR PEOPLE MIGHT FIND BETTER USE FOR IN THE PUBLIC WATER, AND TO SAY, WE CAN FIND LOWER WAYS OF DOING THIS, LESS COST, YOU KNOW, MORE COST SAVINGS WAYS TO DO IT IN OUR HOMES SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT LIKE YOU'RE TELLING YOUR PEOPLE TO GO EAT CAKE. THANK YOU, ERIC MILLER, MR. MILLER.
THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO DO THE MATH ON THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE YOU VOTE ON THIS, YOU REALIZE IT WAS STATED THAT THERE'S 3 TO $400,000 WORTH OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET $50,000 A YEAR. WHERE IS THE REST OF THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM WHEN YOU START THIS WORK, IS IT GOING TO TAKE FIVE YEARS TO PHASE THIS WORK THROUGH BEFORE
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YOU GET YOUR FIELDS READY TO GO? AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO VERIFY ON A NO BID CONTRACT? WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS AT THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW TO THERE'S A $74 MILLION. YOURS IS A LITTLE LESS 3 OR 400,000 ON A NO BID CONTRACT, NO BID CONTRACT, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT AT COST. WHAT IS COST? HOW DO YOU PROVE COST? I MEAN, THESE THESE THINGS ARE JUST IT'S OUT OF CONTROL. ABSOLUTELY OUT OF CONTROL. PART OF WHAT YOU HAVE HERE ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT WAS NOT EVEN IN THE PACKET. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THE PARKS AND REC SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN HOW THIS IS SPENT AND WHY. ANOTHER THING, WE HAD AN ORGANIZATION THAT CALLED AND SPOKE WITH THE VILLAGE TO FIND OUT HOW THEY COULD FUND PUTTING UP A FLAGPOLE THAT'S BEEN DOWN IN THE PARK FOR TWO YEARS. THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HOLD AN AMERICAN FLAG FOR THE MUNICIPALITY. THEY HAVE OFFERED TO BUY IT, TO ERECT IT, AND WANTED TO KNOW HOW THEY COULD WORK WITH YOU.AND THEY WERE TOLD BEFORE THIS WAS EVEN ANNOUNCED, DON'T NEED YOU BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A RENOVATION ON THE PARK. OH, REALLY? DID YOU KNOW THAT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO THAT YOU WERE GOING TO BE DOING A LARGE RENOVATION ON A PARK AND THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT WANTED TO DO THIS AND WAS SENT PACKING AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE. AND IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WHY DID STAFF PUT THIS TOGETHER? WHY DO YOU HAVE A DONATION AGREEMENT FOR A LEGAL AGREEMENT OF A PUD? IS THIS ANOTHER LITTLE FUZZY LAW LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE GOING TO PLAY AGAIN SO THAT WE CAN GET THINGS DONE, AND HOW MANY ARE GOING TO GO OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND CLAIM THAT THEY BROUGHT $250,000 TO THE TABLE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T. IT WAS LEGALLY, UNLESS, OF COURSE, YOU'VE BEEN HAVING MEETINGS WITH THEM OUTSIDE OF THE REST OF THE COUNCIL OR STAFF TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO THAT. WHOSE IDEA WAS IT FOR THE SPORTS FIELDS WHO TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT THAT? ANYBODY? WHERE DID THEY COME UP WITH THAT IDEA? THEY PULL IT OUT OF THE HAT. WHY DID THEY SPECIFY IT? BECAUSE IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR, SO BE CAREFUL. PLEASE DON'T USE IT AS AN ELECTION PROMOTION BECAUSE YOU DID NOT BRING IT HERE. THANK YOU. ANNA FARIS. GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, ANNA FARIAS, I'M GOING TO TRY TO BE VERY ORGANIZED ON WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, JUST SO I DON'T LOSE A FEW PEOPLE ON THE WAY. I APPRECIATE THE GENEROSITY FROM THE NEXT ERA ENERGY FOUNDATION AND WELCOME THE INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY. HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THE RESIDENTS DESERVE MORE INFORMATION BEFORE THE FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED. WHAT EXACTLY WOULD BE BUILT? WHAT IS THE TIMELINE? WHICH ORGANIZATION WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS IMPROVEMENT? WHERE WILL THE CHILDREN PRACTICE WHILE IMPROVEMENTS ARE UNDERWAY? WE RUN OUT OF MONEY. FIELDS ARE NOT GOING TO BE DONE AND YOU WON'T HAVE A PLACE TO BE. HOW WILL THESE IMPROVEMENTS ALLOW US TO HOST REGIONAL EVENTS OR EXPAND OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL YOUTH, NOT JUST CURRENT USERS? MOST IMPORTANT, HOW WAS THE COMMUNITY ASKED? WHAT IS WANTED? HOW DO WE KNOW THAT IT'S JUST SOCCER AND WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF OTHER FIELDS THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN USED FOR HOWEVER LONG I'VE BEEN IN INDIAN TOWN, A BASEBALL FIELD THAT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE HOME PLATE, IT'S GONE. BUT LET ME KEEP GOING AND I GO, HOW WILL THESE IMPROVEMENTS ALLOW HOST REGIONAL EVENTS AND EXPAND, EXPAND OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL THE YOUTH, NOT JUST THE CURRENT USERS. MOST IMPORTANT, HOW WAS THE COMMUNITY ASKED AND A DONATION OF THIS SIZE WAS WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD SOMETHING LASTING BUT LASTING.
PROJECTS ARE STRONG, STRONGER WHEN RESIDENTS HELP SHAPE THE VISION. I ASKED BEFORE DURING THE SPORTS COMMITTEE TO GET THE ACTUAL DATA THAT IS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE MARTIN COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD ON WHAT EXACTLY? OUR RESIDENTS, THE KIDS THAT ACTUALLY ATTEND WARFIELD ELEMENTARY, IMS, WHAT ARE THEIR INTERESTS? THEIR INTEREST IS NOT JUST SOCCER. THEY HAVE BEEN EXPOSED ONLY TO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY PROGRAM THAT HAS SURVIVED. BUT IN ALL
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HONESTY, DO ANY OF YOU KNEW THAT THE HIGHEST NUMBER WAS ACTUALLY RIDING BIKES? DO WE HAVE BIKE LANES? DID WE JUST EXPERIENCE AN INCIDENT JUST NOT TOO LONG AGO? WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT IT? WE'RE NOT COLLECTING ANYTHING. WE'RE JUST ALLOWING OTHER PEOPLE TO BRING IT TO THE TABLE AND PROFIT FROM IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WYATT HENDRIE. HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING AGAIN? I JUST WANTED TO SAY SO. I MEAN, PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD, AND I JUST WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF SOMEWHAT BECAUSE SHE'S THE ONLY PERSON WHO SHOWS UP EVERY EVERY MEETING. AND SHE WORKS VERY, VERY HARD TO GET TO HOPEFULLY EVENTUALLY BUILD THIS THING FOR INDIAN TOWN WITH MULTIPLE SPORTS, SO ON AND SO FORTH. IT'S ON THE IT HASN'T TOOK OFF YET, BUT WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON IT. AND I NOT PERSONALLY, BUT THE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT. AND THEN HOPEFULLY THIS $250,000 CAN HELP MAKE INDIAN TOWN THE PARKS BETTER FOR WHAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY. THEY. THEY NEED ALL THE HELP THEY CAN POSSIBLY GET, AND WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE PARKS AND REC TEAM TO POSSIBLY DO THAT. WHAT WHAT WHAT'S NEEDED. SO AND THEN ON THE, THE CONTRACT SIDE OF THINGS, I'VE BEEN IN CONSTRUCTION AND BUILDING AND, AND WELDING AND FABRICATION. AND JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE WILLING TO DO IT AT COST IS ALSO VERY GOOD THING. AND IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH CONTRACTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, YOU HAVE TO SHOW A LOT OF PAPERWORK AND SO ON AND SO FORTH TO DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO, AND YOU HAVE TO PROVE YOU HAVE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, BUT THANK Y'ALL, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. CHRISTA. MILEY. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.MAYOR AND COUNCIL. FOR THE RECORD, I'M CHRIS DEMILLE. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK. AND THE NEXT ERA FOUNDATION FOR INVESTING IN THE VILLAGE OR IN OUR VILLAGE. IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR ATHLETIC FIELDS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES BENEFIT OUR CHILDREN, FAMILIES, AND THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. AND I BELIEVE THOSE INVESTMENTS ARE IMPORTANT. HOWEVER, WHEN THE VILLAGE ACCEPTS SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS CONNECTED TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY MUST REMAIN OUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES. RESIDENTS DESERVE TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW THESE FUNDS ARE BEING SPENT, WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE PLANNED, WHAT THE PROJECT TIMELINE WILL BE, AND HOW SUCCESS WILL BE MEASURED. I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO ENSURE THAT ALL EXPENDITURES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, WITH THESE FUNDS ARE BROUGHT FORWARD IN A PUBLIC AND TRANSPARENT MANNER, WITH CLEAR COST ESTIMATES, REGULAR PROGRESS UPDATES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY INPUT. I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE ADHERENCE TO COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT PRACTICES WHENEVER POSSIBLE, TO ENSURE TAXPAYERS AND RESIDENTS RECEIVE THE GREATEST VALUE. INVESTING IN BIG MOUNT PARK IS A WORTHWHILE GOAL, BUT THE PROCESS SHOULD BE OPEN, TRANSPARENT AND AC EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. I DO ALSO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER. ONE WOULD BE, WILL THE PUBLIC HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE SCOPE, TIMELINE AND TIMELINE AND COST? WHAT'S AND WHAT SPECIFIC IMPROVEMENTS ARE PROPOSED FOR BIG MOUNT PARK AND WHERE USERS OF THE PARK CONSULTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT SIR. THAT'S IT. OKAY, SO WE GOT IT.
FIRST MOTION. FIRST, SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF PASSING THE RESOLUTION? I THINK THAT OKAY, THAT'S FINE, BUT I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM HIM. BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS. AM I IN ORDER? I DON'T WANT TO BE OUT OF ORDER. NOW. I'M IN ORDER. THE MAYOR'S CALLED THE VOTE, SO. OKAY. WELL, OKAY. YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM. YES, I SEE HIM BEFORE HIM. SURE. COME ON UP, MY FRIEND. THANK YOU. MARSHALL CRITCHFIELD WITH FP L. FOR THE RECORD, EVERYTHING'S PRETTY MUCH BEEN COVERED IN TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT. AND I KNOW MR. VOSS IS GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK IT OVER. AND WE CAN CROSS EVERY BRIDGE THAT WE NEED TO. IF ANYONE HAS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. I GOT A QUESTION, MR. MARSHALL. IN LIGHT OF EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID, I. I TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU KNOW, YOUR COMPANY, FOR ALL THE CONTRIBUTIONS, DEDICATION AND COMMITMENTS. I THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THAT. IN ADDITION TO
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THAT, I WANT TO SAY THAT WHEN THE COMMUNITY HAVE QUESTIONS, WE HAVE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. ABSOLUTELY, 100%. AND I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. I DIDN'T THINK THIS WOULD BE KIND OF A CONTROVERSIAL ITEM, SO I WAS NOT PREPARED TO ANSWER TO THE SPECIFICS OF THE DONATION. I THINK I CAN JUST TELL YOU ANECDOTALLY, AFTER ALL THE YEARS OF COMING AND WORKING IN INDIAN TOWN, I KNOW THAT THE PERSONALLY KNOW THAT THE NEED FOR THE KIDS SPORTS IS ALMOST TOP OF MIND. FOR A NUMBER OF THE PEOPLE I'VE SPOKEN WITH, I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THE MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS I'VE SPOKEN WITH HAVE SAID THAT THIS IS A NEED. THIS IS THE KIND OF THING. FP L LIKES TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITIES THAT WE WORK AND SERVE, AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE A SOFT SPOT FOR YOUTH AND YOUTH SPORTS. AND SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. I DON'T HAVE MUCH MORE THAN THAT. SO IT WAS THE IT IS A DONATION. I, I'M GOING TO LET THE LAWYERS. BUT BUT BUT YOU GUYS DECIDED WHAT YOU WERE DONATING TO. IS THAT CORRECT OR DID SOMEONE SPECIFICALLY ASK YOU FOR A DONATION FOR THE PARK? I THINK THE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. WE GOT A MOTION, A SECOND MOTION TO ACCEPT. THAT'S ALL WE'RE VOTING ON. ACCEPTING THE DONATION. I MADE A MOTION. SO WE WE ALREADY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALREADY. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW, HE DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING. OKAY.[Building Permit and Inspection Fees]
NEXT SUBJECT ON THE AGENDA IS BUILDING PERMITS AND INSPECTION FEES. YES, SIR. WE WERE ASKED TO RETURN. LOOK AT WHAT OUR CURRENT POLICY WAS AND FEES AND ETCETERA RELATIVE TO WATER SOFTENERS PARTICULARLY. BUT WE DID PROVIDE IN HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY, COUNCILWOMAN ONZAGA WAS ASKING FOR SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. AND FOR ME AS STAFF, KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO MAKE ANY REDUCTIONS, HOW THAT WOULD BE DEEMED FAIR AND EQUITABLE, IF YOU WILL, FOR OTHER PEOPLE. SO I WANT FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND, ON SOCIAL MEDIA, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER BECAME AWARE THAT THESE WATER SOFTENERS WERE BEING INSTALLED.AND ALSO WE WERE HAVING AN ISSUE WITH FENCES BEING INSTALLED AND SCREEN ENCLOSURES WITHIN, PARTICULARLY MOSTLY IN TERRA LAGO WITH THE NEW HOMES. AND SO WE WENT IN AS CODE ENFORCEMENT AND DID COURTESY HANGERS, WHICH ESSENTIALLY SAYS, HEY, BY THE WAY, YOU HAVE THIS AND YOU NEED TO HAVE A PERMIT. AND THE INDIVIDUALS WERE COMING IN WILLINGLY ON THEIR OWN TO GET THOSE PERMITS AND PAID FOR. AND THEN WE WOULD DO WE WOULD SCHEDULE THE INSPECTION. WE ACTUALLY HAD THREE SO FAR THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT DID NOT PASS INSPECTION BY OUR BUILDING INSPECTOR. SO IT WASN'T THAT WE'VE BEEN FINDING PEOPLE OR, YOU KNOW, DOING SOMETHING. WE IT'S A WE DO THIS REGULARLY. WE GIVE THEM A COURTESY NOTICE AND HOPE THAT THEY'LL WORK WITH US BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WANT THEM TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. THE STATE LAW, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, REQUIRES THAT WHEN YOU'RE DOING PLUMBING OR ANY TYPE OF WORK IN THAT AREA, IT REQUIRES A BUILDING INSPECTOR INSPECTOR TO DO THAT INSPECTION. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH MARTIN COUNTY THAT'S AN HOURLY CONTRACT FOR THE BUILDING OFFICIAL TO DO OUR INSPECTIONS FOR US. AND SO OUR FEES ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT MARTIN COUNTY HAD. THE ONLY BIG DIFFERENCE WAS THAT WE DO HAVE WITHIN OUR POLICY TO CHARGE A AFTER THE FACT, WHICH THEN DOUBLES THE COST OF THAT PERMIT FEE. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WHERE WE ARE. WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE DOZEN, I THINK IT WAS 30 OR 35. THAT SAID, I'D HAVE TO REFRESH MYSELF WHO HAVE COME IN AND PAID THOSE FEES. ONE THING I WOULD ADD VERY QUICKLY, IT'S NOT UNIQUE TO THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN THAT YOU HAVE A DOUBLED AFTER THE FACT PERMIT FEE THAT IS. THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD ACROSS ALL FLORIDA. I DON'T RECALL MARTIN COUNTY IN PARTICULAR, BUT THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD ACROSS ALL FLORIDA. BUT IN ANY EVENT, HOW MANY NOTIFICATIONS HAVE YOU HAD TO PUT OUT THAT HAVE. I MEAN, DO WE KNOW THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL, YOU KNOW, HAVING THESE THINGS PUT IN THAT? BUT I'M ONLY SPEAKING ABOUT THE WATER SOFTENERS, THE FENCES AND THINGS ARE NOT ARE NOT SOMETHING I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WATER SOFTENERS. BECAUSE OF THE
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CONDITION OF THE WATER. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE AFTER THE FACT FEES WAIVED FOR AT LEAST A PERIOD OF 60 DAYS, SO THAT ALL OF THESE PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND CATCH UP THEIR FINES WITHOUT THAT BURDEN. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GET SEND OUT A NOTICE. YOU'VE GOT 60 DAYS TO COME IN AND PAY THE ORIGINAL PERMITTING FEE, GET YOUR INSPECTION AND BRING YOURSELF INTO COMPLIANCE.WITHOUT THOSE EXTRA FEES, PLEASE. IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN MAKE HAPPEN? YES. AND I'D LIKE TO STRESS, IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TERRA LAGO OWNERS, THEY HAVE A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY. THEY HAVE INDIVIDUAL. AND IT'S VERY CLEAR, AT LEAST WHAT I WAS TOLD TODAY, THAT BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING IN TERRA LAGO, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO REACH OUT TO THE HOA HOA APPROVAL.
YEAH. AND MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IT IS YOU'RE DOING IS WITHIN ALLOWABLE PARAMETERS OF THAT HOA AGREEMENT. AND WHETHER THEY'RE NOT BEING INFORMED THAT THERE'S AN HOA WHEN THEY'RE CLOSING, I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW THERE'S AN OBLIGATION FOR REALTORS TO TO DISCLOSE THAT, BUT THEY'RE BEING CIRCUMVENTED. OKAY. SO, SO JUST FOR THE, JUST FOR OUR NEW CITIZENS THAT MAY NOT KNOW THAT THEY'RE VIOLATING THESE PERMIT LAWS, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST A 60 DAY REPRIEVE THAT IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS, THEY IF THEY'VE PUT SOMETHING IN, THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO. A WATER SYSTEM SPECIFICALLY. NOT FOR THE OTHER STUFF, JUST THE WATER SYSTEMS, IF THEY'VE PUT IT IN, NOT REALIZING THAT THEY COME PAY THE NORMAL FEE, THE INSPECT THE THING INSPECTED, COME INTO COMPLIANCE AND NOT HAVE TO DO THE AFTER THE FACT FEES, WHICH SHOULD SAVE QUITE A BIT FOR THE RESIDENTS. SO LET'S SAY WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO. LET'S SAY IN WE'RE AT THE END OF JUNE, LET'S SAY, THROUGH THE END OF AUGUST, THAT THEY HAVE UNTIL TO GET THAT DONE. AND THEN THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE HAVE DONE THIS AND THEY'RE GOING, OH MY GOSH, I CAN'T AFFORD THESE FEES, CAN COME IN AND GET IN COMPLIANCE AND, AND HAVE THOSE INSPECTION DONE, WHICH ARE VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING. YES. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FOR, FOR THEIR SAKE, THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS DONE CORRECTLY AND THAT IT'S DONE SAFELY. BUT I DON'T WANT THEM BURDENED WITH THE DOUBLE DOUBLE FIGURE. AND WE WILL BE RETURNING. THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS IMPLEMENTED SOME NEW LAWS RELATIVE TO FEES AND WHAT AND ALL THAT, AND WE WILL BE RETURNING BACK TO YOU TO DISCUSS OUR OUR FEE SCHEDULE AND HOW THAT WILL IMPACT YOU WITH SOME OF THESE NEW RULES. I KNOW MR. VOSS HAS BEEN DEALING WITH IT WITH THE VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES AND ENTITIES THAT HE REPRESENTS. OKAY. HOW MANY VIOLATIONS DO WE HAVE IN THERE FOR WATER SYSTEM RIGHT NOW? IS THAT THE ONLY PLACE IN TOWN THAT THAT WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM? WELL, THEY'RE THE THEY'RE THEY'RE THE ONLY YOU KNOW, THE WATER HAS BEEN THE WAY THE WATER IS FOR YEARS. THE WATER HAS BEEN LIKE THAT FOR 30 YEARS. BUT INDIVIDUALS ARE MOVING IN AND HAVE HAVE MOVED FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE THEIR WATER WAS THIS WAY. AND THEY AND THEY HAVE. AND SO THERE'S NO I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT HOW MANY VIOLATIONS DO WE HAVE? WE WE HAD ABOUT. WE HAD OVER 30 THAT THEY DID THE COMPLEMENTARY OR, YOU KNOW, THE NOTICE JUST LETTING THEM KNOW, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY OUT OF THOSE 30 WERE INSTALLED BY A COMPANY? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT AND I DON'T JONATHAN. OUR CODE, I DIDN'T HAVE HIM STAY FOR THIS BECAUSE I DIDN'T BECAUSE IF IT WAS INSTALLED BY A COMPANY, THAT COMPANY SHOULD HAVE CAME AND GOTTEN A PERMIT BEFORE THEY INSTALLED THE SYSTEM IN. THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT THERE WAS A PERMIT REQUIRED. YES, SIR. OKAY. SO SO THAT CHANGES IT FOR ME. I MEAN, IF WE DON'T CHARGE AND WE HAVE TO PAY, WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM? IT WOULD COME FROM YOUR THE TAXES THAT ARE BEING PAID BY YOUR PROPERTY TAXES OR GENERAL REVENUE THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE STATE TO CHARGE THEM. WE DO CHARGE THEM. AND IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO OFFSET THAT EXPENSE THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THE BUILDING INSPECTOR SIMILAR. WE ALSO CHARGE FOR OTHER INSPECTION FEES. IT'S NOT JUST FOR THIS. WE CHARGE INSPECTION FEES FOR OTHER BUILDING RELATED. WHAT ABOUT THE THE GATES? THEY THAT ARE NOT UP TO CODE. YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE GATES FENCE.
THE FENCE? NO, IT'S NOT THAT. THEY'RE NOT UP TO CODE. THEY'RE JUST INSTALLING THEM WITHOUT GETTING A PERMIT. AND THEY WE REQUIRE A PERMIT AND YOU KNOW, SO THEY'RE PUTTING IT THEY'RE NOT ENCROACHING ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. SO THESE RULES AND
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REGULATIONS ARE IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT ONE RESIDENT ISN'T NEGATIVELY IMPACTING ANOTHER. OKAY. SO COUNCILWOMAN ONZAGA WAS SAYING TO TO GIVE A 60 DAY REPRIEVE JUST FOR THE WATER. I LIKE TO ALSO INCLUDE THE FENCE BECAUSE THEY GOT TO BRING THAT UP TO CODE, RIGHT? NO, WELL, IT'S NOT UP TO CODE. THEY HAVE TO. YES. I MEAN, THEY HAVE TO INSTALL IT WITHIN OUR CODE AND ALL OF THIS, BUT WELL, THAT WON'T WORK BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IN CHARGE OF THE QUALITY OF THEIR FENCE. I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE ONLY DOING THIS REPEAT BECAUSE THE WATER QUALITY IS, IS WHAT IT IS. OKAY. BUT THEN YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THEY, THEY DIDN'T GET A PERMIT OR YES, THEY CAN WE HAVE THEM ONLINE. WE, YOU CAN GET THEM ONLINE OR YOU CAN COME HERE. WE'RE HAPPY TO SIT DOWN AND GO OVER, GO OVER THEM WITH YOU. BUT MOST THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY DO REQUIRE SOME KIND OF A PERMIT. YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD INDIVIDUALS IN SOME OF THE OLDER HOMES WANT TO PICK UP PAVERS AND PUT DOWN OR PICK UP CONCRETE AND PUT DOWN PAVERS.WE, WE REQUIRE A PERMIT FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE MAY BE STAYING IN YOUR SAME FOOTPRINT, YOU'RE ALTERING THE MATERIAL. SO THERE AND THESE WERE PUT IN PLACE WHEN THE VILLAGE INCORPORATED FOLKS. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE JUST WOKE UP ONE DAY AND STARTED. WE'VE BEEN GETTING COMPLAINTS FROM NEIGHBORS AND WE'RE TRYING TO BRING FOLKS INTO CODE COMPLIANCE. AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S NOT TO BE PUNITIVE, IT'S TO BRING THEM INTO COMPLIANCE. SO THE ONLY THING I'M ASKING THEN IF WE WE CAN GIVE THEM THE SAME THING TO BRING IT UP TO CODE FOR THE FENCES, RIGHT? IT'S AFTER THE FACT PERMIT. THAT'S AFTER THE FACT. OKAY. OKAY. SO WHAT DOES IT WHAT DOES IT COST? IS THE 140 26 TO SEND A TO TO SEND AN INSPECTOR OUT. THAT'S OUR FEE. THE I DON'T WHAT'S OUR COST. I DON'T HAVE THE AGREEMENT WITH ME HOURLY. I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT 140 AN HOUR. BUT I'M TALKING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I DON'T LIKE DOING THAT. OKAY, WELL, WHERE DOES A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION COME INTO ALL THIS? THEY SHOULD BE GOING TO THE HOA INITIALLY TO GET PERMISSION FOR WHAT IT IS THEY WANT TO DO.
OKAY. AND MAKE SURE THAT THE HOA, THAT THEY'RE NOT VIOLATING ANY OF THOSE HOA, THE RESTRICTIONS AND, AND THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT. AND SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THEY'RE GETTING NOTICED. THEY'RE COMING IN HERE. IF WE SEE THAT IT'S A A CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE PARAMETERS THAT WE KNOW EXIST WITHIN TERRA LAGO, WE REACH OUT TO THE HOA PEOPLE AND SAY, HEY, JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE. YOU MIGHT WANT TO REACH OUT TO THE RESIDENT AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, RIGHT. WELL. I DON'T KNOW. I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE BUILDERS THAT ARE OUT THERE NEED TO LET THEIR CUSTOMERS KNOW THAT, HEY, YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE YOUR WATER CHECKED BEFORE WE DO A CO SO THAT IF YOU WANT TO PUT A WATER SYSTEM IN, WE CAN DO IT FOR YOU AND IT'LL ALL BE DONE UNDER ONE INSPECTION. THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO COME OUT AND DO AN INSPECTION OR WAIT TILL YOU GET CAUGHT.
OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S EASY, YOU KNOW. IN THE CITY OF PORT SAINT LUCIE, I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT. THEY DRIVE AROUND LOOKING FOR HOT WATER HEATERS. IF THERE'S A HOT WATER HEATER IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A GUY COME UP TO YOUR DOOR AND KNOCK ON IT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO CITE YOU FOR IT. AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THINKS THAT IT'S BECAUSE, OH, THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO GET MONEY. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT, YOU HOOK UP A WATER SYSTEM IMPROPERLY OR YOU DO THE ELECTRICAL BECAUSE THEY ALL REQUIRE ELECTRICITY. EVERYONE THAT I'VE SEEN ANYWAYS, YOU KNOW, SO NOW YOU GOT ELECTRICAL INSPECTION AND A PLUMBER'S INSPECTION. YOU GOT TWO INSPECTIONS THERE, BUT THAT ONE GUY CAN DO BOTH OF THEM. SO. OH, THANKS, RHONDA. SO I THINK CHALK IT UP TO, TO, TO, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE VILLAGE HAVE TO PAY OR EAT INSPECTIONS. WELL, MISS MCBRIDE JUST GAVE CLARK MCBRIDE JUST GAVE ME THE THE FEES. SO IT'S $130 AN HOUR IF IT'S THE BUILDING OFFICIAL THEMSELVES AND 117 50 AN HOUR FOR THE ASSISTANT BUILDING OFFICIAL AND 105 FOR AN INSPECTION PLAN REVIEW WITH MARTIN COUNTY. THAT'S WHAT OUR CURRENT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY HAS LAID OUT.
SO, TAMRA, I'M SORRY, MISS CRYSTAL. THAT'S OKAY. WHEN DEVELOPERS COME, WE NEED TO LET THEM UNDERSTAND. IF YOU'RE GOING TO DEVELOP HERE RESIDENT, YOU NEED TO BE OPEN. YOU NEED
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TO BE TRANSPARENT AND TELL THE YOUR CUSTOMER, SO TO SPEAK, WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.MAYBE SOME OF THE PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW. MAYBE THEY DID, I DON'T KNOW. BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY ARE NOT INFORMED ABOUT THE WATER AND WHAT HAVE YOU? THEN IT COMES BACK AS IF THE VILLAGE ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL IS DOING ALL OF THIS STUFF, AND WE WASN'T TRANSPARENT AND ALL OF THAT. SO WE REALLY HAVE TO PUT SOME OF THE ONUS BACK ON THE DEVELOPER. WELL, IN MY CONVERSATIONS. SO ONE OF YOUR UTILITY SUPERVISORS WHO'S BEEN BORN AND RAISED HERE, I ASKED HIM, I SAID, WHAT IS IT WITH THIS WATER AND WATER SOFTENERS? AND HE SAID, I'VE GROWN UP HERE.
I'VE ALWAYS HAD HARD WATER. YOU GET, YOU KNOW, FOR HIM. HE SAID, I I'M USED TO IT. RIGHT. HE SAID, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE A WATER SOFTENER, YOU KNOW, BUT SO IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A TOUGH THING BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, FOLKS ARE MOVING FROM OTHER ENTITIES. THEY'RE ACCUSTOMED TO A CERTAIN. RIGHT. AND WE'RE JUST NOT THERE YET. BUT JUST TO. AND, AND THAT PERSON THAT SAID THAT THAT'S REALLY BAD BECAUSE YOU'RE SELLING A PRODUCT, THE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW. LET THEM MAKE THE CHOICE TO WHETHER TO HAVE IT OR NOT TO HAVE IT, BUT DON'T TAKE AWAY THEIR, THEIR RIGHTS. AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WHEN YOU DON'T, WHEN YOU'RE NOT TRANSPARENT. AND I MOVED FROM BROWARD COUNTY AND MOVED TO OKEECHOBEE. AND IT WAS ROUGH. THAT WATER WAS ROUGH, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS. AND WE LIVED ON A COMPOUND, SO IT WAS NOTHING WE COULD DO ABOUT IT. BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE BUYING THESE HALF MILLION DOLLAR HOMES.
THEY HAVE A RIGHT. ANYBODY THAT'S BUYING A $2 HOME HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT'S WHAT.
WELL, I GUESS MY CONCERN THERE, COUNCILWOMAN, IS YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT, BUT IT'S OKAY FOR ME.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. LET THEM, LET THEM KNOW. LET THEM KNOW SO THEY CAN LET THIS WATER.
EXCUSE ME. LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS WATER, THIS IS. WE HAVE HARD WATER HERE. NOW, IF YOU WANT IF YOU DON'T WANT THE HARD WATER, THEN YOU CAN INVEST IN THIS PACKAGE. OKAY. AND THAT'S THEIR CHOICE. OKAY. SO AS A REALTOR, ALL HOAS, IT'S YOU'RE VERY CLEAR. YOU'RE MOVING INTO AN HOA. IT'S IN YOUR CLOSING PACKET. YOU PAY UP FRONT HOA FEES, YOU ARE INTRODUCED TO THAT HOA UPON LOOKING AT THE HOMES, THIS IS NOT A THIS IS NOT SOMETHING PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT. SO ANYBODY THAT CLAIMS THEY DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE AN HOA AND DIDN'T HAVE THESE OBLIGATIONS IS NOT BEING HONEST. SECONDLY, YOU CAN'T MAKE A BUILDER OFFER ANYTHING.
BUILDERS OFFER WHAT THEY OFFER AND IT'S. YOU HAVE A OPPORTUNITY TO DO A WALK THROUGH IN YOUR NEW HOME. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SHOULD BE DOING IS LOOKING AT YOUR WATER.
I MEAN, THIS IS YOUR OBLIGATION. WE CAN'T POLICE EVERYTHING. IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO POLICE EVERYTHING. IF YOU'RE BUYING FROM A BUILDER AND YOU'RE BUYING A HOME, DO YOUR WALK THROUGH. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN A WATER SOFTENING SYSTEM, WHETHER YOUR BUILDER PAYS FOR IT OR YOU PAY FOR IT, YOU HAVE TO GET A PERMIT WHEREVER YOU ARE BECAUSE OF THE ELECTRICAL AND THE PLUMBING. ALL I'M ASKING IS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE AND NOTHING TO DO WITH FENCES, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT IN CHARGE OF FENCING, WE. WE OFFER WATER THAT IS HARD. WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM A SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM. ALL I AM ASKING IS THAT NOT THAT WE WAIVE FEES, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO PAY THEIR INSPECTION FEES. THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING TO HAVE THE AFTER COST FEES. IF THEY REALLY DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THESE PERMITTED AND FOR A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME SO THAT THOSE FOLKS CAN COME IN, GET THIS CLEARED UP. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AD NAUSEAM. I MEAN, EVERYBODY NOW KNOWS THAT IT REQUIRES A PERMIT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT SHORT TERM REPRIEVE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE OF NOT GETTING A PERMIT, WHETHER SOMEBODY PUT IT IN FOR THEM OR THEY DID IT THEMSELVES AND DO THE THE BEST THING WE CAN DO IS TO MAKE SURE THEY COME INTO COMPLIANCE. I WANT THOSE INSPECTIONS DONE SO THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T BURN DOWN BECAUSE SOMEBODY MADE A MISTAKE, AND I WANT THEM TO COME IN AND CLEAR IT UP, NOT WORRYING ABOUT IT BEING SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS. YOU KNOW, LET'S LET'S GIVE THEM A REPRIEVE OF 60 DAYS THROUGH THE END OF AUGUST. COME IN AND PAY THESE FEES. AFTER THAT, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE NORMAL. BUT LET'S GET THESE CLEARED UP AND AND GIVE THESE FOLKS THAT PERHAPS DID NOT UNDERSTAND, GIVING THEM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. LET'S GIVE THEM THAT 60 DAYS TO CLEAR THIS UP. IT'S NOT GOING TO KILL US. WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE A TON OF MONEY. AND, AND WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY THE INSPECTORS FOR MARTIN COUNTY BASED ON, ON WHAT WE CHARGE THEM. OKAY. SO
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THAT IS WHAT I'M OFFERING. I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF ANYBODY SUPPORTS IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.QUESTION. LEGAL QUESTION. YES, SIR. SO IF WE GIVE SOMEBODY A REPRIEVE OF 60 OR 90 DAYS, GOD FORBID SOMETHING HAPPENS, RIGHT? I SAY HOUSE BURNS DOWN BECAUSE IT WASN'T INSPECTED. DOES THAT PUT US IN THE MIX? SO I THINK THE REPRIEVE I'VE HEARD, WHICH IS JUST CHARGING THE INSPECTION FEE BUT NOT CHARGING THE AFTER THE FACT PENALTY. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THEN PRESUMABLY YOU GO THROUGH THAT AND SOMEBODY DOES GET AN INSPECTION. IT PASSES THE INSPECTION.
HOPEFULLY IT WON'T BURN DOWN AFTER THE INSPECTION. OKAY. SO I THINK THE DIRECTION IS TO TRY TO, TO GET FOLKS TO GO THE DIRECTION OF COMPLIANCE, GET IT INSPECTED, LESSEN THE BURDEN ON, ON GETTING INSPECTED. IN ANY EVENT, I DON'T THINK THERE'S, THERE'S LIABILITY RISK FOR THE VILLAGE, BUT GOING IN THE DIRECTION OF ENCOURAGING FOLKS TO GET INSPECTED RATHER THAN HIDING IT, PROBABLY A BETTER DIRECTION FROM A RISK STANDPOINT. I GO ALONG WITH IT, BUT I ONLY DO 30 DAYS. I THINK WE'RE SETTING A PRECEDENCE TO THIS, AND I JUST BROUGHT IT UP.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, SAY NO. BUT I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO GET EVERYBODY IN COMPLIANCE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING, OH MY GOD, IT'S THESE HUGE FEES. I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT MY WATER SYSTEM. YOU KNOW, I WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL LIKE THEY CAN COME GET CAUGHT UP IN THE AFFORD TO DO IT. I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THE EXTENSION. I'M NOT OKAY WITH THE OTHERS. WITH WITH THE LESS FEE I'M NOT IN. I'M NOT OKAY WITH THAT. I'M OKAY WITH EXTENDING THE TIME, THE 60 DAYS TO PAY WHATEVER FEE YOU HAVE TO PAY WHEN YOU GO TO BUY A HOUSE AND THEY OFFER YOU A PACKAGE AT THAT TIME, YOU ARE COUNTING PENNIES, NICKELS AND DIMES TO MAKE SURE YOU STAY ON BUDGET. SO YOU THINK YOU CAN DO WITHOUT CERTAIN THINGS, AND I'LL GET IT LATER. I'LL ADD IT ON LATER. THIS IS LATER. WHOEVER PUT IT IN DID NOT GET THE PERMIT. WE STILL HAVE TO PAY THE INSPECTOR FOR THAT. WE'RE CRYING FOR MONEY, BUT YET WE'RE GOING TO LET. I'M. I'M NOT SURE THAT WORKS FOR ME. YEAH, I AGREE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF PRECEDENTS WOULD BE SET IN DOING THAT. YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS SO WE CAN AIR IT OUT.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RESIDENTS THINKING OR NOT THINKING, BUT THEY'RE WHEN THEY'RE TALKING, THEY'RE TALKING TO SOME OF US OR WHOEVER, AND WE GET THE INFORMATION AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S OKAY. WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE CAN'T TAKE WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE SAYING OR NOT SAYING AND JUST RUSH IT ALONG. THIS IS IT. WE DON'T GET THIS. WE GOT THE SUNSHINE LAW, SO WE HAVE TO DO IT HERE. BUT THE ONE THING I DON'T LIKE, I DON'T LIKE THE RESIDENTS BEING DISRESPECTED BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THEM TO DISRESPECT US. I DON'T LIKE THAT. I DON'T I DON'T LIKE I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE IT AT ALL. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY CIVILITY, LET'S MAKE SURE WE GIVE THAT BACK. WE CAN'T WE CAN'T CALL THE RESIDENTS LIARS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY KNOW. YEAH, WE DID SAY IT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY KNOW OR WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY THERE'S A COUPLE OF REALTORS IN HERE. I'VE NEVER BEEN A REALTOR. SO I'M A, I'M A, I'M A LOOK TO ANNA OR TO SHEILA TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND STUFF. AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY KNEW ABOUT THE HMO FROM THE FROM A TO Z. I DON'T THEY PROBABLY DID. BUT SOME OTHER PEOPLE WHO BUYING THAT HOUSE MAY NOT HAVE. I HAVE FRIENDS THAT CAME FROM WEST PALM BEACH AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW. OKAY, SO LET'S JUST BE VERY CAREFUL WITH OUR BEHAVIOR. HOW WHAT WE SAY, HOW WE SAY IT, OUR TONE. BECAUSE IF A RESIDENT WILL CALL ME OUT, I'M CALLING YOU ALL OUT. LET'S BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE SPEAK TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. I, WE, WE ARE HERE TO SERVE THEM. CAN I ASK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? WHO WHO'S DISRESPECTING WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WHEN COUNCILWOMAN ONZAGA MADE HER STATEMENT, SHE TO ME, SHE SAID THEY DID. NO, WE DON'T KNOW THAT. NO WE DON'T. SO THEN THAT STATEMENT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN MADE. WELL, IT'S IN THE PAPERWORK. WELL, I DON'T, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW. YOU DON'T KNOW. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY KNOW OR WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW. WELL, I WAS SPEAKING OKAY. I WAS MAKING A STATEMENT. OKAY. IT CAME. WE TAKE A VOTE. YOU SEE, RIGHT NOW YOU'RE BEING DISRESPECTFUL. OKAY, BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE, YOU'RE BEING DISRESPECTFUL. EXACTLY. AND AND EVERY TIME SOMEBODY SAY SOMETHING, MAYOR, THAT YOU WANT TO PUSH ALONG, THAT'S WHAT YOU DO. THAT'S DISRESPECTFUL TO US SITTING ON THIS DAIS. LET LET I MEAN, FOR REAL, LET US RESPECT ONE ANOTHER. I'M DISRESPECTING
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YOU RIGHT NOW. YOU ARE WHEN YOU PUSHING ME ALONE AND YOU'RE NOT LETTING ME SAY WHAT I NEED TO SAY NOW. I'M GOING TO RESPECT YOU. NOT JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE THE MAYOR, BECAUSE YOU'RE A HUMAN BEING. AND I LIKE YOU, OKAY? BUT I, I WANT THE SAME KIND OF COURTESY. THANK YOU BABY, APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. THAT NONE OF THAT WAS MEANT TO OFFEND ANYONE. WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS FIND OUT WHETHER WE CAN GIVE THIS, YOU KNOW, GIVE THIS OPTION TO FOLKS SO THAT WE CAN COME INTO COMPLIANCE OR NOT. HOW DO WE HANDLE THIS FROM HERE ON OUT WITH WITH A MOTION PASSED BY THE COUNCIL, YOU CAN DO SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT YOU'VE OUTLINED. OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE GIVE THE 60. WE MAKE A MOTION. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES. OKAY. ERIC MILLER. YOU KNEW I HAD TO STAND UP HERE. EXCUSE ME. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU. IT SEEMS WE'RE WORKING UNDER A TWO TIER SYSTEM HERE. I WAS HERE NOT TWO WEEKS AGO, AND THERE WAS A REQUEST TO DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL SPACE. THERE WAS AN AMOUNT OF NEW THINGS AND PUD PHASES THAT HAVE BEEN PUSHED ALL THE WAY THROUGH FOR DEVELOPERS, AND THEY SEEM TO REALLY GET A LOT OF CONSIDERATION. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO TAKING SOMETHING, IT'S, BY THE WAY, YOUR OWN NOTES, IT'S 100 ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU PUT OUT HERE. THE PRICE TAG IS $140.26 IN YOUR MEMO, AND IT'S 250. IF YOU ARE NONCOMPLIANT, MULTIPLY THAT OUT BY THE NUMBER OF 30 THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY.LIKE TEN K IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY. WE CAN GIVE TEN K AWAY TO THE SPORTS PROGRAM BECAUSE THAT'S NOT REALLY A LOT OF MONEY. SO CONSIDERATION CAN BE GIVEN TO PUDS. CONSIDERATION CAN'T BE GIVEN HERE. AND I'M NOT EVEN WORRIED ABOUT PEOPLE THAT WERE IN VIOLATION. I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING TO TAKE A PRODUCT THAT YOU'RE DELIVERING. AND YES, IT'S POTABLE, BUT WHY DO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO MEET THE LOWEST STANDARD AVAILABLE AND CALL THAT YOUR GOLD STANDARD? THE WATER IS CAUSING ISSUES FOR PEOPLE. IT WAS STATED IT'S DESTROYING HOT WATER HEATERS OVER A PERIOD OF 3 TO 5 YEARS FROM THE HARD WATER. THEY NEED IT. IF YOU DON'T THINK PEOPLE NEED A WATER SOFTENER, YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR MIND AND THEY NEED IT BECAUSE YOUR WATER, WHICH YOU INHERITED, YOU DECIDED TO INCORPORATE WITH IT KNOWINGLY, THAT YOU HAD A FAILED PRODUCT THAT YOU'RE DELIVERING, AND YOU'RE CHARGING PEOPLE A PREMIUM FOR, YOU WOULD THINK AS THEIR REPRESENTATIVES THAT YOU MIGHT SAY YOU STILL NEED AN INSPECTION, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO DO WE FOUND TEN GRAND OVER HERE. WE FOUND TEN GRAND OVER THERE THAT JUST MYSTERIOUSLY SEEMS TO POP UP WHEN IT'S NEEDED FOR POLITICAL REASONS, OR SOMEBODY NEEDS IT. AND YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, WE'RE GOING TO WAIVE THE FEES UNTIL WE CAN DELIVER YOU A PRODUCT THAT DOESN'T DESTROY YOUR HOME AND YOUR PIPES. I MEAN, THAT'S THE REAL ISSUE HERE. AND AS FAR AS LOOKING ON FACEBOOK, WHAT HAVE WE BECOME? WHAT HAVE WE BECOME? YOU 36 WAS YOUR NUMBER ORIGINALLY STATED? 30, SHE SAYS, WERE FOUND BY YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER ON FACEBOOK. SO INDIAN TOWN, CAREFUL WHAT YOU'RE POSTING ON FACEBOOK BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING OUT FOR YOU ARE LOOKING IN YOUR YARD, YOUR WINDOWS AND EVERYWHERE ELSE. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU BABY. REALLY GUYS, THIS IS WHAT YOU REPRESENT.
THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT. REPRESENT. THIS IS REAL. THIS ISN'T ME GOING ON A RANT. THIS IS HUMAN. YOU'RE DEALING WITH BUREAUCRATIC LOGIC VERSUS NATURAL LAW, AND YOU'LL LOSE EVERY TIME YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE. TIME WILL TELL YOU OUT. ANYBODY ELSE? ANNA FARIAS? ANA, FOR THE RECORD, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON BEING ABLE TO OPEN THAT FOR ME IS NOT ABOUT GETTING NERVOUS FOR PUBLIC SPEAKING, BUT IT IS MORE ABOUT FEELING A BIT INTIMIDATED OF WHAT YOU MIGHT THINK OF WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. IT'S AFFECTING ME. IT'S AFFECTING MY NEIGHBORS. AND YES, AS A REAL ESTATE BROKER, YES, YOU DO GET TO. GET AN ESTOPPEL, BUT THE ESTOPPEL IS PROVIDED AT CLOSING TABLE, AND THE ESTOPPEL COULD HAVE 400 PAGES OF LEGAL TERMS. OKAY. AND I DID KNOW, AND I AM WELL AWARE THAT WHEN YOU ARE LIVING IN AN HOA, YOU DO HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION. I ASKED, BUT UNFORTUNATELY YOU GUYS WERE MOVING FROM ONE BUILDING TO ANOTHER. THE TIME
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FRAME SHOWS THAT IT IS NOT THAT IT WASN'T ASKED DURING THE WALKTHROUGH. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I DID PLEAD TO. SINCE THE HOME WAS BRAND NEW AND IT WAS GOING TO BE GIVEN A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, THAT IF INDEED I COULD PAY EXTRA TO HAVE THAT DONE RIGHT THEN AND THERE, I DIDN'T WANT TO TURN THAT FAUCET KNOWING WHAT WAS GOING TO COME THROUGH, BUT I HAD TO BECAUSE THE PACKAGE WAS NOT AVAILABLE. IT IS NOT AN ELECTRICAL PERMITTING THAT WE'RE NEEDING ON A BRAND NEW HOME, BECAUSE THE WATER SOFTENERS ARE BEING PLACED IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S ALREADY AN OUTLET. SO THERE IS NO TWO PERMITS THAT ARE WE ARE BEHIND IN. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WAS GIVEN THE OPTION WHETHER I WANTED IT INSIDE THE GARAGE OR OUTSIDE OF THE GARAGE. IF I PUT IT INSIDE THE GARAGE, I WOULD DEFINITELY NOT BE TOUCHING ANY OF YOUR CITY LIMITS PIPES AT ALL. SO WOULD I NEED A PERMIT THEN? OH WELL, MAYBE YOU SHOULD, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST PLUMBING AND ANYTHING YOU DO WITH PLUMBING. MY QUESTION WAS VERY DIRECT. IF I NEED A PLUMBING OR ANY TYPE OF PERMITTING, BECAUSE I DID WANT A WATER SOFTENER, AND IF THAT WAS GOING TO VOID MY WARRANTY FOR THAT HOME, BECAUSE THAT PRODUCT WAS NOT BEING OFFERED. SO YES, I DO THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO HELP OUT WITH THE COSTS. BUT IN REALITY, THE COMPANIES THAT ARE COMING OUT TO INSTALL THESE ARE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO BUSINESS IN INDIAN TOWN WITH MANY OTHER RESIDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO NEED THIS WATER SOFTENER. THEREFORE, THEY HAVE PUT THEMSELVES IN GOOD STANDINGS BY APPLYING FOR THAT PERMIT ON MY BEHALF BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONES TO INSTALL IT. SO IF YOU WANT TO PASS TO HELP THOSE THAT HAVE NEED TO PAY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SHEILA ROSARIO.FOR THE RECORD. SHEILA ROSARIO AND WHERE DO I START? OKAY, FIRST SOCIAL MEDIA. THAT'S HOW A LOT OF PEOPLE FIND US. SO IF YOU GUYS WANT TO START GOING TOWARDS THE SOCIAL MEDIA SIDE AND NOT ALLOW ME TO POST OR ME TAKE CAUTION OF WHAT I POST, IT'S GOING TO HINDER US. GO AHEAD. YEAH. THANK YOU. BUT DRASTICALLY, AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I ACTUALLY WANT TO DO A TOUR OF THE WATER PLANT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR THE WATER ON WHAT IS AND WHAT IS COMING, AS WELL AS THE HIGH SCHOOL AND AS WELL AS MANY OTHER THINGS. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND A VIDEOGRAPHER THAT WE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY NEED IN INDIAN TOWN OR SOMEBODY LOCAL, IF ANYBODY KNOWS ANYBODY BESIDES THAT. A LONG TIME AGO, I HAD SPOKEN TO YOU ABOUT THE MUSIC FESTIVAL AND WE WERE TALKING AND SAID, WHY ARE WE HAVING THE MUSIC FESTIVAL HERE? AND YOU SAID, BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON, SOME REASON WHEN INDIAN TOWN STARTED AND THIS I'M STILL LEARNING. SO EXCUSE ME, WHEN WE TOOK OVER, WE HAVE FOR SOME REASON, MIAMI RULES LIKE THE RULES THAT WE HAVE. AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I'M SPEAKING FROM GOD KNOWS WHERE, BUT YOU KNOW, BUT IT YOU GUYS ENDED UP TAKING THE PEOPLE THAT PUT YOUR RULES TOGETHER WERE FROM OVER THERE. AND WE'RE NOT TAKING MARTIN COUNTY AND SOME OF OUR LOCAL AREAS, AND IT'S AFFECTING US DRASTICALLY FINANCIALLY, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR EVENTS THAT WE CAN'T HAVE HERE AT THE PARK, WE CAN'T. AND THE SAME. AND WHY DO I SAY THIS? BECAUSE MY SCREEN. YES, I HAVE A SCREEN IN MY BACKYARD. YES. I DON'T WANT BUGS IN MY BACKYARD. AND I HAVE CATS. I ENJOY THEIR SCREEN. BUT WHEN WE DID OUR RESEARCH AND MY SCREEN PERSON, FOR EXAMPLE, LOOKED IT UP, NONE OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS NEEDED SCREENS. SO WE THOUGHT WE DIDN'T NEED A PERMIT FOR THE SCREEN. JUST LIKE MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS, WE SEARCHED AROUND. NOBODY NEED A SCREENS. I WAS EXPLAINED BY ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS WHAT HAPPENED AT THE LAST STORM WITH INDIAN WOOD, THAT THE SCREENS ARE FLYING EVERYWHERE. SHE'S LIKE, IT'S BEST AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT AGAIN, THIS GOES BACK TO OUR RULES THAT SOMEHOW WERE CREATED FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE VERSUS OUR LOCAL AREA. AND AGAIN, CORRECT ME AT SOME POINT, I'M OKAY. YOU KNOW, I'M OKAY BEING CORRECTED WHEN IT COMES TO OUR PERMITS. IF WE CAN'T GO THAT ROUTE IN TERMS OF THAT ROUTE. AND AGAIN, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE NEW RESIDENTS COMING IN, LET ME TRY TO TALK FASTER. EVEN IF WE CAN DO A 30 DAY MINIMUM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 2000 PEOPLE COMING IN THAT ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO LET THESE NEW RESIDENTS KNOW. I DON'T HAVE ONE ON ONE INTERACTION WITH EVERYBODY THAT MOVES IN. SO THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT COME IN. THESE ARE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES. SOME OF THEM DON'T EVER GET THEIR HOA GUIDELINES AND WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE. SO IF WE CAN HAVE A GRACE PERIOD, IF FOR SOME REASON THAT HAPPENS, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. WHAT ELSE CAN WE SOMEHOW GET AN INFORMATION SHEET FROM THE WATER COMPANY
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THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH OUR RESIDENTS? BECAUSE IF WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF A BASIC WATER SHEET THAT WE CAN JUST SAY, HERE, THIS IS THE INFORMATION, IT WOULD BE SUPER DUPER DUPER HELPFUL. JUST SOMETHING A BRIEF, BECAUSE I'M NOT A WATER TECHNICIAN OR ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH WATER. SO I TRY TO SUMMARIZE IT. OKAY, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. SO WHEN I SAID THEY, THEY DISCOVERED THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, IT WAS THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA THAT PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA STARTED GOING BACK AND FORTH AND, AND MADE OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AWARE THAT THIS WAS JUST DIALOG. IT WASN'T JUST FACEBOOK. IT WAS, I DON'T KNOW, VERY I DON'T DO SOCIAL MEDIA. IT WAS VERY DIFFERENT. THERE'S A LOT OF POSTINGS AND THEY'VE BEEN ADDING A LOT OF EXTRA DRONE FOOTAGE THAT'S GETTING A LOT OF OTHER VIEWS THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN POSTED WITHOUT RESIDENTS BEING AWARE THAT IT WAS BEING POSTED. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING. YEAH. AND WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT. SO UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN A CODE VIOLATION OR A CONCERN OF A CODE VIOLATION AND THEY START PROLIFERATING THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY BRING IT TO OUR ATTENTION, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER GOES OUT AND ADDRESSES IT. SORRY. NO, OKAY. WE'RE GOOD, I DO. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE ON THE WATER LIST? WHAT DO YOU MEAN, WATER SHEET? WHAT DO YOU. SO BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO DO OUR PART WHEN PEOPLE COME IN HERE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHETHER IF IT'S AN INFORMATION, A MOVING SHEET. SO INSTEAD OF US GIVING IT BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH OURS WHEN THEY COME IN TO TURN ON THE WATER, WHY CAN'T WE HAVE AN INFORMATION SHEET THAT SAYS, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE? BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO COME IN HERE TO TURN ON YOUR WATER. CAN'T THAT INFORMATION SHEET SAY, HEY, THIS SITE, THIS IS WHAT OUR WATER IS, THIS IS WHAT OUR FILTER IS. FLIP THAT OVER. AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DO A WATER FILTRATION SYSTEM, PLEASE FILL OUT FOR THIS FORM BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TURN ON YOUR WATER AND YOU CAN'T SAY YOU DIDN'T RECEIVE IT IF YOU'RE TURNING ON YOUR WATER. HERE'S THE INFORMATION SHEET. DID YOU TURN ON YOUR WATER? YES. THEN YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION SHEET. SO MAKE IT AS PART OF THE WATER PACKET. THAT WAY WE'RE ALL CLEAR. AND THEN THAT WAY NOBODY CAN SAY YOU WERE NOT ADVISED.YES YOU WERE. YOU TURNED ON YOUR WATER IN PERSON AND IT'S IN YOUR HAND. THANK YOUR HUSBAND OR YOUR WIFE. KAREN. IS THAT A SHEET THAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER WITH PAT? WE DO. WE? YES. I MEAN, I'M I'M LOOKING I'M THINKING, NO, RHONDA, YOU PUT TOGETHER INFORMATIONAL SHEETS. WE'VE DONE MAIL OUTS. WE'VE GOT INFORMATION ON OUR BULLETIN BOARD RIGHT HERE FOR WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY CAN SEE, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, LIKE THE WATER QUALITY REPORT AND THEN SOME INFORMATION ON HOW TO. OKAY. YEAH. WE CAN MARIA TOMORROW WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAD A MOTION FOR 60 DAYS FOR THEM TO COME IN COMPLIANCE WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY THE AFTER COSTS.
OKAY. JUST THE TYPICAL COST OF THE PERMITTING THAT THEY FAILED TO GET FOR WHATEVER REASON, WHETHER THEY KNEW OR DID NOT KNOW. OKAY. AND SO WHEN THE NEXT SUBDIVISION COME IN TO BE THAT'S NOT GARCIA OR TERRA LAGO, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING, CORRECT? NO, BECAUSE THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT HAS BEEN PUBLISHED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. PEOPLE HAVE HEARD IT. NOW, I UNDERSTAND WHEN THESE FOLKS MOVED IN, WE HADN'T HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS YET. I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO IF SOME. PHYLLIS, PLEASE, I DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU WAS GOING TO SAY. WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO SAY? I'M THINKING IF WE. IF WE IF WE DO FOR ONE, WE HAVE TO DO FOR OTHERS. SO IF WE SET THIS PRECEDENT, IT IS DEFINITELY A PRECEDENT THAT WE'RE SETTING.
TEARING. IF THE INSPECTOR COSTS. HOW MUCH? OUR HOURLY OUR HOURLY RATE. EXCUSE ME, I'M ANSWERING IS $130 AN HOUR. AND WHAT ARE WE ASKING THE CITIZENS TO PAY FOR THAT LATE INSPECTION? $140.26. BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO ADDITIONAL FEES ON THERE. THERE'S A DB, DB, PR, WHICH IS YOUR DEPARTMENT FOR BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL REGULATION, DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, AND THEY HAVE PERCENTAGES ON THERE THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE. WAIT. GO AHEAD. YEAH.
AND I JUST I'M NOT TAKING ANY SIDE OBVIOUSLY ON ANY OF THIS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S CLEAR OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU'VE GOT THE NUMBER CALCULATED HERE IN THE AGENDA ITEM. I THINK BASED ON TWO. WELL WHAT HAVE YOU. THE REGULAR PERMIT COST WOULD BE
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$140 AND CHANGE. OKAY. THE AFTER THE FACT PERMIT CHARGE WOULD BE 280 AND CHANGE BECAUSE THERE IS A 100% PENALTY FOR DOING IT AFTER THE FACT. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WHAT WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS, IS TO GET RID OF THE 100% PENALTY FOR 60 DAYS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, AND NOT JUST NOT THE NOT THE NOT THE INSPECTION SYSTEM, NOT JUST TERRA LAGO. THIS IS NOT A BENEFIT TO TERRA LAGO. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE PUT IN WATER SYSTEMS THAT DON'T LIVE IN TERRA LAGO, THAT MAY NEED TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. I'M NOT MAKING THIS BENEFIT FOR TERRA LAGO. I'M SAYING ANYONE WHO HAS MISTAKENLY. BECAUSE THE PERSON WHO PUT IN THEIR WATER SYSTEM DIDN'T PULL A PERMIT OR THEY DID IT THEMSELVES, THEY ALL NEED TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE.THIS IS A WAY TO GET THAT TO HAPPEN IN A VERY SHORT WINDOW. THIS IS NOT A BENEFIT TO TERRA LAGO. IT IS A BENEFIT TO ANYONE WHO HAS MADE THIS MISTAKE TO GET IT CLEARED UP. FOR ME. IT'S NOT WHETHER IT'S TERRA LAGER OR MOUNTAIN RIVER OR RIVER OAK OR JOHNSTOWN. IT IS A PRECEDENT THAT YOU'RE SETTING. SO FOR PEOPLE WHO PUT IN WATER SOFTENERS, ONE, IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE. WHAT PERMITS ARE NEEDED? TWO, IF WE DO IT FOR ONE, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE. SO IF IT'S ONE FOR ONE PRAYER AND IT'S 280, WHICH IS STEEP, THAT IS STEEP AFTER THE FACT. IT'S 100% PENALTY FOR ANY AFTER THE FACT PERMIT. I DON'T LIKE THE 100% PENALTY. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING THEM TO WAIT, BUT I DON'T. OKAY, BUT WHERE DOES THE MONEY COME FROM? IT'S IT'S CAN WE JUST TAKE IT OFF? OKAY, SO WE WE NEED TO CHANGE THE FEE SCHEDULE. THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE. OKAY. IF YOU WANT, IF YOU WANT TO DROP THAT TO 50%, WE THAT'S, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER MEETING. WE'RE NOT, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DROP IT TO 50%. I'M NOT ASKING TO CHANGE THE FEE WAIVER. I MEAN, THE FEE SCHEDULE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY TO DO. BUT I NEED US TO KNOW THAT ONCE WE DO THIS. IT'S DONE. IT'S DONE. IT'S PRECEDENCE. THAT IS NOT WHAT I. THAT IS NOT WHAT I'M PROPOSING. I'M NOT PROPOSING A CHANGE IN OUR REGULATIONS. I AM SAYING A PAUSE IN THE ADDITIONAL FEE TO LET PEOPLE CATCH UP. PERIOD.
AND I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO. I'VE MADE A MOTION. LET'S VOTE ON IT. IF IT GETS VOTED DOWN, WE'LL DROP IT BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT ANYMORE. IF THREE PEOPLE VOTE FOR IT, THEN WE'LL GO FOR IT EITHER WAY. BUT LET'S PUT IT OUT THERE. LET'S DO A VOTE. I'VE MADE A MOTION. LET'S VOTE ON THAT MOTION. LET ME UNDERSTAND YOUR MOTION. MY EMOTION IS THAT FOR THE NEXT 60 DAYS, TILL THE END OF AUGUST, A LITTLE OVER 60 DAYS, WE ALLOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE MISTAKENLY PUT IN NON-PERMITTED WATER FILTRATION ONLY SYSTEMS TO COME IN AND PAY THE ORIGINAL INSPECTION FEE, GET THEIR INSPECTION, AND NOT HAVE TO PAY THE 100% PENALTY. SO THOSE ARE FOR THE ONES WHO HAVE PUT IT IN ALREADY, NOT THE ONES THAT CAN PUT IT IN UP UNTIL YOUR DEADLINE. AND YOU YOU SAID WE HAD 3630 THERE. I THINK I HAVE IT IN MY ITEM WHEN I ASKED, IS IT APPROXIMATELY 30? IT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YES, MA'AM. I JUST ASKED JONATHAN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I CAN DO THAT ONE. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. WE DO. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND.
OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. OKAY. PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. IT'S CRAZY. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH TONIGHT? NO. NOPE. OKAY. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? I HAVE TWO. OUR
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