Jun 11, 2026 Regular Meeting

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CLERK. ROLL CALL PLEASE. MAYOR APOLLO HERE. VICE MAYOR WATERS BROWN HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

PEREZ HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIAMS. PALMER HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SAWYER HERE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY, AND WELCOME TO OUR JUNE 11TH INDIAN TOWN VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING. I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU TO SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO. THE BATHROOM IS LOCATED THROUGH THE DOOR AT THE END OF THE HALL TO THE RIGHT. THE EXITS. EMERGENCY EXITS ARE TO YOUR EACH END OF THE CORRIDOR. TONIGHT YOU'LL HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK. THE FIRST WILL BE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT SEGMENT WHERE YOU CAN SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. THE SECOND WILL BE DURING THE AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSION. AT THIS TIME YOU CAN COMMENT ON THAT ITEM. THERE WILL BE A SEGMENT PRIOR TO CLOSE FOR THOSE TO SPEAK THAT HAVEN'T, THAT WEREN'T HERE FOR THE FIRST OR SECOND OPPORTUNITY. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES IN EACH SEGMENT. PLEASE ADHERE TO OUR CIVILITY PRACTICE AT THIS AND ALL COUNCIL MEETING. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD IN THE BACK AND HAND IT TO THE CLERK AND SHE'LL CALL YOU WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN TO SPEAK. AND AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK YOU TO STAND FOR THE INVOCATION GIVEN BY PASTOR WILLIAMS, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN, A VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE BLESSINGS UPON US. WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT WE CAN MEET TOGETHER AND AND HAVE A CIVIL DISCUSSION ON ON WHAT'S BEST FOR INDIAN TOWN AND INVEST IN ZION. THAT EYES. WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE FACILITY AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO CARE ENOUGH TO SERVE AND AND TO HELP GROW AND STRENGTHEN THE TOWN. WE ALSO HAVE SPIRIT BE WITH US TONIGHT, THAT WE MAY HAVE CIVIL DISCOURSE AND BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THESE THINGS WITH OPEN HEARTS AND. AND AS THOU HAST TAUGHT US TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER, WE PRAY THAT THAT WE CAN COLLECTIVELY WORK TOWARDS SOLUTIONS TO MAKE INDIAN TOWN EVEN BETTER. SO WE ASK THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? NO, SIR.

[Presentation from Mr. Carl Frost Co-Owner of Kai-Kai Farm ]

MR. FORREST, WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M CARL FROST. I'M GOING TO READ A PREPARED STATEMENT AND THEN WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. OKAY. JUST A BRIEF STATEMENT. SO I'M CARL FROST. I'M CO-OWNER OF A LOCAL VEGETABLE FARM CALLED CHI CHI, WHICH MY WIFE, DIANE CORDOVA AND I ESTABLISHED IN 2003 AT THE SITE OF A FORMER CITRUS GROVE ON CANNER HIGHWAY. AT THAT TIME, NEITHER OF US HAD ANY FARMING EXPERIENCE. I COMPLETED MY UNDERGRADUATE BACHELOR OF SCIENCE DEGREE IN HORTICULTURE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, GO GATORS, INDIAN RIVER RESEARCH, EDUCATION AND EDUCATION CENTER. WHILE WORKING FULL TIME THERE WITH DOCTOR ED STOVER AS ONE OF HIS LAB ASSISTANTS, I WAS ALSO LOANED OUT TO THE USDA RESEARCH CENTER LOCATED NEXT DOOR. IN 2006, CHI CHI BEGAN VEGETABLE PRODUCTION AND SALES AT LOCAL GREEN MARKETS. THE NEXT 20 YEARS, WE EXPANDED OUR SALES TO RESTAURANTS, COUNTRY CLUBS AND STARTED OUR OWN FARM MARKET. IN 2021. MY BACKGROUND INCLUDES A BACHELOR OF BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AND FINANCE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, PLUS APPROXIMATELY 15 YEARS OF PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE IN THE

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RIGHT? DO YOU WORK OR DO ANY FORM OF COLLABORATION WITH THAT, WITH THAT GROUP? WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD DO? IN THE. YEAH, WE HAVE NOT ACTUALLY PROVIDED CONSULTATION. OKAY, TO THIRD PARTIES THAT WE'VE BEEN PRETTY BUSY JUST GROWING FOOD. SO THAT'S YEAH, THAT KIND OF.

YEAH. INTELLECTUAL PURSUIT. JUST WE NEVER HAD TIME FOR IT. OKAY. OKAY. ASK YOU THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE SOME, SOME PLACES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY ARE. I DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW EXPERIENCED OR ADVANCED THEY ARE, BUT DIFFERENT ENTITIES ARE MAKING LITTLE FARMS. YEAH. SO I JUST OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. DO YOU OFFER ANY GLEANING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OVERGROWN CROPS THAT YOU CAN'T USE AT ALL? WE HAVE NOT BECAUSE WE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOOD LEFT OVER SINCE WE ARE HARVESTING OUR OWN FOOD AND BASICALLY HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL OF THE WHOLE PROCESS. IT'S WE MANAGE TO SELL JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING AND. INSURANCE IS ACTUALLY A, AN ISSUE, RIGHT? OKAY. SO WHEN YOU HAVE INDIVIDUALS ON YOUR PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY OUT IN THE FIELD, THE, THE UNDERWRITERS, THEY RATE YOU DIFFERENTLY THAN IF YOU'RE FIELDS ARE ONLY, LET'S SAY, OCCUPIED BY EMPLOYEES. SO OUR INSURANCE COSTS WERE CONSIDERABLE, ABOUT $20,000 A YEAR JUST FOR GENERAL LIABILITY. SO WE, WE HAD TO, WE HAD TO LIKE ELIMINATE CERTAIN THINGS LIKE HAY WAGON RIDES, YOU KNOW, YOU PICK FORGET IT. I MEAN, IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, HARD TO RATE THAT. RIGHT? SO YEAH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SOME OF THE. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE

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YOU KNOW, WE'RE THIS IS A COMMERCIAL OPERATION. THERE'S EQUIPMENT RUNNING AROUND. OKAY.

NOW IF YOU GO OVER TO NEWFIELD, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, THERE'S NO, NO EQUIPMENT THERE.

RIGHT. SO THE RISK ISSUES ARE, ARE DIFFERENT. SO IT, IT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE A COMMERCIAL OPERATION WITH TRACTORS AND THINGS. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CHANCE FOR AN ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING IF THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY NON EMPLOYEES ON THE PROPERTY. SO IT, IT, BUT IF YOU STRUCTURED YOUR FARM OPERATION, NOT TO HAVE THOSE KIND OF THINGS RUNNING AROUND, NOT AS MECHANIZED, YOU WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT RISK CLASSIFICATION. OKAY. THANK YOU.

YEAH. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FARM AND A GARDEN? A FARM IN MY I MEAN, JUST FROM MY, LET'S SAY, EXPERIENCE, I WOULD SAY A FARM TENDS TO BE MORE SPECIALIZED IN GROWING A SPECIFIC COMMODITY, SAY CORN OR MANGOES OR, YOU KNOW, TOMATOES. IT MIGHT HAVE 2 OR 3 CROPS. OUR FARM GARDEN, I MEAN, WE CALL IT A FARM BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH, RIGHT? BUT A GARDEN IS A DIVERSE, LET'S SAY, A SELECTION OF, OF CROPS, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING IN OUR CASE, WE HAD ABOUT 60 CROPS AT THE SAME TIME. SO JUST LETTUCES ALONE. I THINK WE'D HAVE AT ANY GIVEN TIME AT LEAST ABOUT TEN. SO YOU KNOW, IT'D BE LIKE A GARDEN AT YOUR HOME, RIGHT. YOU USUALLY HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A SELECTION OF STUFF. SO WHERE KIND OF ONE STOP SHOP, YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, FILL UP YOUR BASKET. RIGHT, RIGHT FROM THE, THE PROPERTY.

NICE. YEAH. SO YEAH, THAT'S, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE PEOPLE SAY THEY WANT A FARM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF, LET'S SAY VARIATIONS ON THAT.

YEAH. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SUGGESTING MORE OF A GARDEN APPROACH JUST FOR THE DIVERSIFICATION. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND TRY AND STAY AWAY FROM THE SPECIALIZING. ONCE YOU START GETTING INTO SPECIALIZATION OF LIKE A SMALL SELECTION OF CROPS, YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AT MECHANIZATION, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT JUST HAS TO BE THAT WAY. YOU'RE GOING TO BE SELLING THAT STUFF ON THE OPEN MARKET. SO I MEAN, IT CAN BE DONE. BUT I MEAN, IT'S A DIFFERENT WORLD. THAT'S ONE QUESTION. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, PLEASE. THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB HAVE A HAS A GARDEN. THEY HAVE A MASTER GARDENER THERE. YEAH. AND THE COMMUNITY CAN GROW AT THAT GARDEN. DO YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT? WE HAVE ENTITY, JUST THE CASUAL ONE. THEY'VE ACTUALLY DIANE COULD PROBABLY MY WIFE DIANE, SHE'S THE GROWER ACTUALLY. YEAH. SHE HAS. I THINK WE SOLD FOOD TO THEM OR DONATED FOOD. YEAH.

WE'VE DONATED FOOD TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB FOR EVENTS. AND THEIR, THEIR FOOD TRUCK TRAILER HAS BEEN OUT AT OUR FARM. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD EVENTS OUT THERE FOR THEM. YEAH. SO YEAH, WE HAD A MARATHON ONE YEAR AND THEY WERE THE, THE KITCHEN FOR THAT MARATHON, FOR EXAMPLE. AND SO THEY HAVE JUST RECEIVED A GRANT, A USDA GRANT WITH PARTICIPATION FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA EXTENSION OFFICE, I BELIEVE HERE IN IN MARTIN COUNTY EXTENSION FOR DISCOVERY. I GUESS IT IS OF POSSIBLE FOOD, FOOD HUB, WHICH I'VE BEEN A BIG ADVOCATE OF IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FOOD INDUSTRY, LET'S JUST SAY NGO FOOD INDUSTRY, NON-GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY CONSISTS OF SEPARATE SILOS. YOU KNOW, WE USE EUPHEMISM, A SILO, YOU KNOW, AUTONOMOUS OPERATIONS, RIGHT? AND THAT'S NOT VERY EFFICIENT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FOOD IS EXPENSIVE TO PRODUCE. AND NOW

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THEY GROW OR COME TO, YOU KNOW, NOT TO THEM, NOT FOR THE PRODUCTION SIDE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, A QUESTION, ARE YOU OPEN YEAR ROUND? NO. OR ARE YOU LIKE, JUST DO SEASONS? WELL, NOW I'M SPEAKING HISTORICALLY BECAUSE OUR FARM IS NOW FOR SALE. WE'RE PLANNING ON RETIRING. WE JUST PUT IT ON THE MARKET TODAY. IT WENT UP ON REALTOR.COM. SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN BUYING IT. SO THE. THE FACT IS GROWING FOOD YEAR ROUND IN FLORIDA IS PRETTY TOUGH. IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE SEASONALITY. YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS DOWN HERE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WONDERING, WHY CAN'T YOU GROW GOOD FOOD IN THE SUMMERTIME? RIGHT? YOU'D THINK THE WEEDS SURE GROW BETTER THAN EVER. RIGHT. BUT FOR EXAMPLE, TOMATOES, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY MOST ALL THE CULTIVARS OF TOMATOES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MAYBE EVERGLADES, WHICH I DON'T KNOW, YOU CAN GROW THOSE IN YOUR YARD, BY THE WAY, IT'S A GREAT ONE TO HAVE, RIGHT? THEY DON'T TASTE GOOD. THEY DON'T.

THE PROBLEM IS THE HEAT AT NIGHT. IT'S NOT THE DAYTIME TEMPERATURES. IT'S THE NIGHT TIME TEMPERATURES. THAT'S JUST TO NAME ONE PROBLEM. ANOTHER PROBLEM IS LIKE LETTUCES. NOW THEY TEND TO THEY GO TO SEED IN THE SUMMERTIME, EVEN ACTUALLY IN THE SHOULDER SEASONS. I MEAN, WE REALLY STRUGGLE WITH LETTUCES. SO THERE ARE CULTIVARS THAT ARE RESISTANT TO BOLTING, WHICH IS GOING TO SEED. SO YOU HAVE TO PICK WISELY. DIANE'S THE EXPERT JOHNNY SEED COMPANY. THEY HAVE A GOOD SELECTION OF THOSE KIND OF CULTIVARS. SO GROWING LETTUCE IS REALLY DIFFICULT. NOT ONLY THAT IN THE WARMER MONTHS AND IT TASTES BITTER OR IT JUST DOESN'T TASTE RIGHT. OKAY, SO YOU KNOW THAT IT DOESN'T DOESN'T SELL. NOBODY WANTS TO BUY A LETTUCE THAT HAS AN OFF TASTE. THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER EXAMPLES. PRODUCE JUST DOESN'T GENERALLY GROW WELL THAT, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PRODUCE THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN. THERE'S A ARUGULA. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GROW BABY ARUGULA, MAYBE HARVEST IT IF YOU KEEP THE ARUGULA IN THE GROUND TOO LONG, IT GETS TOO SPICY IN THE SUMMERTIME. IN THE WINTER, IT'S BEAUTIFUL. SO IT'S FLORIDA IS EXCELLENT PLACE TO GROW IN THE WINTER TIME BECAUSE OF THE MODERATE TEMPERATURES. BUT IT'S STILL NOT THAT EASY BECAUSE UNLIKE OUR FRIENDS TO THE NORTH, OUR WINTER DAYLIGHT HOURS ARE SHORTER. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT PRESENTS ITS OWN LITTLE CHALLENGE. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MANAGE THAT. I KNOW THAT.

WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THE EDUCATION. SURE. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT, MAYOR, IF I MAY, TO AND I THINK JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WHEN

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SO THEY'RE NOT PAYING TAXES. CORRECT. SO IT COULD BE IN AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE. RIGHT. BUT THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THE AG EXEMPTION BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT THEY QUALIFY. YEAH. SO I JUST THINK IT CAN BE CONFUSING. IT IS CONFUSING. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT. OKAY. WELL I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO HEAR WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS BETWEEN A FARM AND A GARDEN AND WHAT, WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES COULD BE. BUT IT'S, IT'S A HARD, IT'S A HARD, HARD THING TO DO. IT'S EXPENSIVE, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY AROUND IN THE TOWN THAT HAS AG LAND AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY USING IT AS AG LAND IS GOING TO ANNEX INTO THE VILLAGE. BUT

[PUBLIC COMMENT (3 MINUTES EACH)]

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ANYBODY ELSE? NO, SIR. THAT'S IT. OKAY. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS? YES. WELL,

[COMMITTEE REPORTS]

WHAT IT DID WAS PUT IT ADDRESS THE THE COUNCIL, ELECTED OFFICIALS, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING FROM DRESS CODE TO CONVERSATIONS. YEAH, IT IT WAS REALLY IT WAS A TIGHT CONFERENCE. AND I WALKED AWAY EMPOWERED. I WALKED AWAY INFORMED. AND IT JUST IT JUST MAKES YOU WANT IT MADE ME WANT TO DIG SOME MORE, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT I'M DOING AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT IT LINES UP AND THEY PROVIDED LINKS TO DIFFERENT DIFFERENT SITES TO GO ON AND DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT ARE AUTHORITY ON THIS. THEY TOLD FUNNY STORIES. THEY, THEY WERE FUNNY AFTER THE FACT. BUT WHILE YOU'RE GOING THROUGH, IT WASN'T SO FUNNY. AND WE SAW CLIPS OF, OF OTHER COUNCILS AND IT AND IT LIKE, WHOA, STUFF THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN. SO I'M LIKE, WOW, I'M GLAD WE DON'T DO THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT IT WAS VERY IT WAS SOMETHING. AND WADE THEY TALKED ABOUT YOU. YES. OH YES. HONEY, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE THE ROLE OF THE ATTORNEY. HOW HOW SIGNIFICANT THAT ROLE IS. THEY TALKED ABOUT YOU TWO, TAMRON, HOW SIGNIFICANT THAT ROLE IS. EVERYBODY ON THE DAIS, EVERYBODY THAT HAS A HAND IN SHAPING AND HELPING DEVELOP THE VILLAGE IS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO IT I'M JUST GLAD THAT I WENT. AND I WANT TO JUST TELL MY CONSTITUENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SUPPORTING THIS COUNCIL. AND IT ALSO GAVE INSIGHT ON OUR FORMER COUNCIL. YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY MAKE MISTAKES, RIGHT. AND AND AND IT JUST MADE ME THINK ABOUT THOSE PERSONS THAT WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN, IN MAKING THIS A VILLAGE, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S EASY TO SAY, YOU SHOULD DO THIS AND YOU SHOULDN'T DO THAT. BUT WHAT IT DID, IT JUST MADE ME SIT BACK AND APPRECIATE THE EVERYTHING THAT THEY WENT THROUGH, WHETHER THEY MADE MISTAKES OR NOT. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS TELL MY STUDENTS THAT THAT PENCIL HAS ERASER, ERASE IT AND LEARN FROM IT. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CONSTITUENTS. THANK YOU TO THE STAFF AND, AND EVERYBODY FOR MAKING IT POSSIBLE THAT I THAT THE MEETINGS WERE GRUELING FROM 730 TO 430. THEY WERE GRUELING, GRUELING. BUT I TELL YOU, IT WAS WELL WORTH IT. SO THANK YOU EVERYBODY. AWESOME. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? YES. SO I JUST WANT TO BRING UP A COUPLE OF THINGS. LAST MEETING, WE HAD PEOPLE COMING IN TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY WERE GETTING. NOT GETTING PERMITS, NOT REALIZING THEY NEEDED PERMITS FOR THEIR WATER SOFTENERS, WATER PURIFYING SYSTEMS. AND SO I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL PEOPLE AND THEY WERE CHARGED FOR NOT HAVING THE PERMIT. AND THEN THEY WERE CHARGED TO GET THE PERMIT. AND THEN THEY WERE CHARGED FEES BECAUSE THEY HADN'T GOTTEN THE PERMIT. AND IT IT ADDS UP. I WOULD LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO LOOK INTO A WAY OF GIVING OUR COMMUNITY SOME RELIEF, AT LEAST OVER THE NEXT YEAR. LET'S SAY, WHILE WE CAN GET OUR WATER STRAIGHTENED OUT, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE CONTRACTED WITH MARTIN COUNTY FOR INSPECTIONS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ELECTRICAL AND WATER INSPECTIONS ARE VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL FAIL THAT COULD HAVE CAUSED HOUSE FIRES OR DEATHS. SO THAT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO AT LEAST THE INSPECTION PART. BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO FOR RELIEF FOR THOSE FOLKS. I THINK THE INSPECTION PART HAS TO STAY. I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

BUT LET'S SEE IF MAYBE WE CAN RELIEVE SOME OF THE OTHER BURDEN. CAN YOU LOOK INTO THAT AND HAVE ME SOME INFORMATION BACK NEXT MEETING? OKAY. THANK YOU. NUMBER TWO, WADE, AS

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UNFORTUNATELY, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE, THESE ARE NOT ORDINARY TIMES. AND SO IT IS STILL MY LEGAL OPINION, MY OFFICE'S LEGAL OPINION THAT A MORATORIUM ON THE PROCESSING OF APPLICATIONS FOR DATA CENTERS WOULD RUN AFOUL OF SB 180. I WOULD JUST NOTE, AND AGAIN, THIS IS IN NO WAY MEANT AS A CRITIQUE IN THE SLIGHTEST BIT OF ANYTHING IN CITRUS COUNTY.

WHEN I DID TAKE A LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, AS WELL AS THE AGENDA MEMO ALONG WITH IT, THERE WASN'T A DISCUSSION OR REFERENCE AT ALL TO EITHER. SENATE BILL 484, THE SENATE BILL THAT WAS RECENTLY PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE, SIGNED BY THE GOVERNMENT GOVERNOR, THAT DOES RELATE TO DATA CENTERS. AND, YOU KNOW, SOME FOLKS HAVE REFERENCED A PORTION IN IT THAT SOME FOLKS MAY THINK THAT THAT OVERRIDES SB 180, WHAT HAVE YOU. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'VE DISCUSSED SB 180 THAT PROHIBITS THE VILLAGE FROM ADOPTING ANY MORE BURDENSOME OR RESTRICTIVE, EITHER LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OR COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS OR PROCEDURES. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY RUN AFOUL UNTIL OCTOBER 1ST, 2027. THERE IS IN THE DISCUSSION, BOTH IN THE ORDINANCE OR IN THE AGENDA MEMO. WITH THAT, THERE WAS NOT A DISCUSSION AT ALL WITH REGARD TO EITHER SB 180 OR 44. I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL A PRACTICAL REALITY. ALL RIGHT. WHEN THE LAW, WHETHER IT'S FEDERAL LAW OR STATE LAW OR AN ORDINANCE OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WHEN THE LAW PROHIBITS SOMETHING. ALL RIGHT. THAT DOES NOT THAT IS NOT LIKE A MAGIC SPELL OR A MAGIC WAND THAT PHYSICALLY STOPS ONE'S HAND FROM GOING AND DOING A THING. ALL RIGHT. SOMETHING MAY BE CONTRARY TO THE LAW, BUT YOU CAN STILL PHYSICALLY DO IT. THERE ARE JUST CONSEQUENCES AND PUNISHMENTS. AND THE WHAT COMES FROM IT ENDS UP BEING A WHOLE SERIES OF, OF, YOU KNOW, THINGS GOING CATASTROPHICALLY IN A POOR DIRECTION. THAT IS THE CASE WHEN YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE PREEMPTION, WHERE THE WHERE THE STATE SAYS MUNICIPALITIES, COUNTIES AND HAVE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.

IT IS HISTORICALLY, HISTORICALLY THE CASE ALL OVER THE STATE OF FLORIDA. I'M SURE IT IS IN OTHER STATES, TOO, WHERE NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT THAT SOME AREA OF THE LAW IS PREEMPTED, SOME CITIES OR SOME COUNTIES OR WHATEVER WILL SAY, GUESS WHAT, GUYS, WE'RE DOING IT ANYWAYS. ONE EXAMPLE YOU MAY REMEMBER FROM YEARS AGO DOWN IN SOUTH FLORIDA IN PARTICULAR, WHEN THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE DID BROAD PREEMPTIONS ABOUT LOCAL

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IN OUR I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER FOR THE OCTOBER DEADLINE TO DO THAT. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS. I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK INTO, AS THE PUBLIC HAS SUGGESTED, WE NEED TO LOOK AT PLACES THAT HAVE HAD THEM FOR A LONG TIME, LIKE LOUDOUN COUNTY, VIRGINIA, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY FIGURED OUT FOR US. WE NEED TO LEARN FROM THEIR LESSONS. CERTAIN PLACES HAVE HAD THESE FOR A LONG TIME, AND LET'S SEE HOW THEY ADAPTED.

THEY BROUGHT THEM IN NOT KNOWING WHAT REALLY WHAT THE SITUATION WE WOULD BE IN IS NOT REALLY KNOWING WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE IT'S AN ALL NEW THING. SO I WOULD LIKE TO START THAT CONVERSATION AND START BUILDING SOMETHING FOR OUR ELDERS THAT CAN BE PUT INTO PLACE, THAT ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS. SPECIFICALLY FOR ME, THE WATER AND THE ELECTRICAL CONCERNS AT AT A MINIMUM. SO I THINK WE NEED TO START WORKING ON THAT IN PREPARATION FOR A TIME WHEN IT'S AVAILABLE TO US TO PUT THAT INTO OUR COMP PLAN AND OUR ELDERS. DOES EVERYBODY AGREE WITH THAT? YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND, CAN WE START PUTTING TOGETHER SOMETHING FOR US TO START REVIEWING? I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY LONG PROCESS JUST BECAUSE THIS IS AN UNKNOWN ENTITY. THIS IS SOMETHING WE NO ONE'S EVER DEALT WITH BEFORE. AND SO ESPECIALLY AT THE SIZE OF THESE LARGE LOAD FACILITIES. AND SO I THINK, I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO GET STARTED BUILDING THAT LANGUAGE SO THAT WHEN IT COMES TO WHETHER WE ALLOW THEM OR WE DON'T ALLOW THEM, WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE DIRECTING IT, THAT WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE SAYING THIS IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY CAN TOLERATE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY WON'T TOLERATE. SO I REALLY THINK I'VE BEEN LISTENING FOR SEVERAL MONTHS TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEIR CONCERNS. A LOT OF THE CONCERNS ARE VALID, AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO GET TO WORK ON THAT. SO WE'RE NOT CAUGHT WITH OUR PANTS DOWN NEXT OCTOBER. I AGREE WITH THAT. YEAH. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TODAY. I WANT TO CAN I ADD SOMETHING. AND AGAIN, JUST TO KIND OF ADDRESS OUR A RESIDENTIAL ADVISORY COUNCIL, WHERE DO WE STAND WITH THAT? I MEAN, WHAT IS THE I GOT THIS FROM? THIS IS WHAT WAS SENT TO

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USUALLY ADVISORY BOARDS ARE DIRECTED TO PARTICULAR SUBJECT MATTERS, SOMETIMES BROAD ONES.

PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IS. AS TO ALL LAND USE MATTERS AND YOU HAVE YOUR PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD. SO IN SETTING UP ADVISORY COMMITTEES, THAT'S WITHIN YOUR COMPLETE CONTROL.

BUT MY ADVICE TO YOU WOULD BE TO BE VERY CLEAR ON PRECISELY WHAT IT'S TO DO, WHAT IT'S TO ADVISE ON, AND WHAT ITS SCOPE AND AMBIT IS. OKAY. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. WE HAD A CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD. AND WHAT WAS THEIR SCOPE? WHAT DID THEY DO? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE NAC NEIGHBORHOOD ADVISORY COUNCIL? YEAH. IT WAS NOT. IT WAS REALLY ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE, HOW THEY WANTED TO SEE IT, WHAT HAPPENS, HOW TO DO IT. WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN NAC MEMBER IN THIS ROOM, BUT THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY WANTED THE COMMUNITY TO BE, WHAT THEY WANTED IT TO BE, HAD TRAINING, AND THEY JUST ADVISED AND TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT THEY NEVER BROUGHT ANYTHING FORWARD, RIGHT? YES, THEY DID TO THE COUNCIL. NO, IT WASN'T TO THE COUNCIL. IT WAS TO THE. YEAH. MARTIN COUNTY ITSELF. COUNCIL WASN'T HERE. OKAY. WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT WHATEVER THEY BROUGHT TO MARTIN COUNTY WAS ANYTHING RESOLVED AND THE RESULTS FROM IT AND IT GAVE THEM WHAT WHAT THE COMMUNITY REALLY WANTED AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDED, BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN IT ANY OTHER WAY. SO IT'S JUST COMMUNITY INPUT. IT'S COMMUNITY INPUT. OKAY. THEY DEVELOPED A PLAN, OKAY, FROM IT. AND SO, AND, AND THAT WE DO HAVE THAT WAS LIKE 2001 OR 2 ISH. YEAH.

WHEN THEY DID THAT. BUT IT'S A, IT'S A LENGTHY PLAN AND THAT'S WHAT CAME OUT OF IT. OKAY. THIS IS ALL MAKING A LOT MORE SENSE TO ME. I WAS RACKING MY BRAIN BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WITH THE VILLAGE, THE VILLAGE GOVERNMENT SINCE ABOUT SEPTEMBER OF THE YEAR IT STARTED. I WAS TRYING TO I DON'T REMEMBER THAT COMMITTEE, BUT IT WILL PREDATED THE INCORPORATION OF THE VILLAGE. RIGHT. AND IT IT HAD TO DO WITH THE CRA AND SO ON. SO. BE GLAD TO TO PULL THOSE OLD RECORDS FROM MARTIN COUNTY AND LOOK AT THE SCOPE OF THAT, TO SEE IF IT MEANS IT WOULD BE SOMETHING OF RELEVANCE. NOW, I MEAN, TO THAT END, I THINK THAT I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GIVE OUR CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE INPUT SOMEHOW. I ALSO FEEL LIKE.

I'VE BEEN GUILTY OF SAYING, HEY, WE'VE GOT TWO MEETINGS A MONTH WITH FOR US AND TWO MEETINGS

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YEAH. IT'S IT'S COMMON. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S COFFEE WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER OR, YOU KNOW, YOU SET A STANDARD I KNOW IN MARTIN COUNTY TOO, THEY'VE GOT DISH WAS COMMISH, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S A JUST A SMALL. I JUST FEEL LIKE MAYBE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE CONNECTED TO US, MAYBE GET THE CHANCE TO KNOW EACH OF US BETTER AND BRING THEIR CONCERNS. I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF SOME WAY OF PUBLIC RELATIONS, AS MELISSA HAS BROUGHT UP MORE THAN ONCE. WELL, IN COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THE PAST HAVE DONE TOWN HALLS JUST THEMSELVES. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING STRUCTURED. OKAY. YOU KNOW WHERE WE HAVE I MEAN, DO YOU GUYS GIVE ME LIKE MY STRATEGIC PLANNING THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR NOT JUST THE STRATEGIC PLAN? NO, BUT IT GIVES THEM A TIME. IT GIVES THEM TIME TO TALK AND DISCUSS AND SEE WHERE OUR HEAD IS. YEAH, BUT BUT I MEAN, A MONTHLY THING, SOMETHING WHERE WE ROTATE MAYBE ONCE, ONCE A MONTH. WE'RE IN HERE ON SATURDAY FROM 10 TO 12 AND FIND A LOCATION, YOU KNOW, WE, WE GO TO WE USE THIS, WE GO, WE GO TO BOOK A PARK, WE GO HERE, WE GO TO, WE GO TO THE PARKS, WE GO TO CHURCHES SO WE CAN INTERACT WITH ALL OUR RESIDENTS, EVERYBODY. YEAH, I LIKE THAT IDEA. I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT AND SEE HOW WE COULD MAYBE MAKE IT SOMETHING STRUCTURED. AND IN THAT WAY, THE COMMUNITY HAS A LITTLE BIT OF MORE OF A CHANCE TO, TO COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH. YEAH. WITH US, THEY ACTUALLY DO THAT IN MIAMI DADE AND THEY ADVERTISE WHAT THIS, WHAT THIS PARTICULAR COUNCIL PERSON SKATING WITH COMMISSIONER WHOEVER. AND THEY, THEY ALSO DO BIG EVENTS LIKE JAZZ NIGHT, STUFF LIKE THAT, JUST, JUST SO THEY CAN INTERACT WITH THE, WITH THE CONSTITUENCY.

AND I JUST WANT TO KEEP IT SIMPLE BECAUSE IF ANY OF US WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN DO IT ON OUR OWN. BUT THESE THINGS MAYBE ONCE A MONTH ON WHATEVER DAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SATURDAY MORNINGS OR WHATEVER, EACH ONE OF US COULD BE AVAILABLE AT A PARTICULAR PLACE AND OR EVEN HERE. AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MEET TOGETHER GUYS, UNLESS IT'S A FORMAL MEETING. SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE US ONE AT A TIME. BUT I JUST THINK MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD REALLY KIND OF CONSIDER. WE CAN BE IN THIS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

WE CAN BE AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING. AND I KNOW ESTHETICS IS YOU, RIGHT? BUT IF THE COMMUNITY IS IN HERE DISCUSSING, THAT'S DISCUSSING. WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER JUST SAID, IF IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE GOING TO COME TO SPEAK TO TWO OR MORE OF YOU ABOUT MATTERS OF THE VILLAGE OR VILLAGE BUSINESS THAT'S GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO THE SUNSHINE LAW? NO, I'M I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT IF WE'RE JUST HAVING JUST JUST LIKE A FUN TIME THAT ANYTHING OUT TO AN EVENT OR WHATEVER, WE CAN ALL BE THERE. WE JUST. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

MULTIPLE OF YOU COULD BE AT AT JUST SOME EVENT OUT IN THE PUBLIC. ABSOLUTELY. BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING ORGANIZED, THE PURPOSE OF WHICH IS TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH THE FOLKS, LISTEN TO THE FOLKS, AND SO ON, THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE JUST ONE OF YOU, OR IT'S GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO THE SUNSHINE LAW. AND AGAIN, I THINK WE WERE SAID ALREADY, WE CAN ALWAYS SCHEDULE OUR OWN STUFF INDIVIDUALLY. YOU KNOW, I'VE DONE THAT 3 OR 4 TIMES. SO WE CAN ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, DO THAT AS WELL. YEAH. NOW, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I JUST WANT TO ASK THIS ONE QUESTION. WHERE ARE WE WITH FPNL THE GRANTS? THE TRUST FUND, TRUST FUND. YEAH. WE HAVE BEEN MAKING MODIFICATIONS TO IT. THE INTENT WAS TO TAKE IT TO THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD SO THAT THEY COULD SEE WHAT THE PROPOSED CHANGES WERE. AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THEY'VE NOT HAD A QUORUM, SO WE WERE NOT ABLE TO TAKE IT TO THEM. SO WE'RE WAITING TO HAVE THEM SAY IT'S OKAY. I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE AN ADVISORY BOARD, RIGHT? AND THEN IT WOULD COME TO YOU ALL AS A AS AN AGENDA ITEM. OKAY. NOW THAT FPNL HAS AGREED TO EXTEND THAT GRANT FOR ANOTHER 30 YEARS, I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. AND THEY ARE THEY UNDERSTAND THEIR ROLE. THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF IT AS WELL. BUT WE, WE NEEDED TO TO BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE IT FOR ANOTHER 30 YEARS. AND BECAUSE THE DOLLAR

[00:50:02]

[COMMENTS BY VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS]

YOU KNOW, I TOLD HER THAT I WAS GOING TO GET BACK TO HER. OKAY. THIS IS WHY YOU'RE GETTI40. HEYT WE HAVE TO DO TO DISCONNECT YOU. AND THAT IS WHY THERE'S A FEE TO IT. AND IF WE DON'T EXPLAIN, THEY JUST LIKE, OH, YOU JUST CHARGING US X, Y, AND Z. I JUST WANT TO SEE HOW CAN WE EXPLAIN THESE FEES TO OUR RESIDENTS? SURE. YEAH, WE DID THAT. WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE BROUGHT THEM TO YOU, WE HAD SOME COMPARISONS. IF YOU REMEMBER, BECAUSE OUR FEES WERE PRETTY LOW AND WE HAD SOME JUSTIFICATION FOR THE AMOUNTS THAT WERE BEING PROPOSED. SO YEAH, WE CAN DO, WE CAN BRING THEM BACK AND YOU CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND ALSO ANGELINA, JUST LIKE SHE SAID, WE HAD THOSE WORKSHOPS THAT PEOPLE CAME AND THEY PROBABLY JUST FORGOT. THEY PROBABLY FORGOT, BUT ALL OF THAT STUFF WAS EXPLAINED TO THEM. SO I REMEMBER WE HAD IT ON A SATURDAY. YEAH. SO MAYBE THEY JUST FORGOT. IT WAS JUST LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS. LET'S JUST REFRESH. I GOT YOU. OKAY. VILLAGE MANAGER. DO YOU

[COMMENTS BY VILLAGE MANAGER]

[00:55:06]

BUT I THINK IF I MEAN, WHEN WE GIVE THEM WHEN WE DO THE BUDGET, THEY THEY'LL LOOK IN BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, YOU KNOW, BUT WHEN THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO SIT AND, AND BALANCE WITH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, THEY HAD ALL THE, IF I, IF I DO THIS, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVER HERE? AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT MY GROUP, WE, WE, WE WAS ON BUDGET BY $3, BUT WE HAD TO TAKE SOMETHING AWAY IN ORDER TO, TO, TO HAVE SOME MONEY, YOU KNOW, IN THERE. SO AND I CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

BUT OUR LEON COUNTY DID IT. YEAH. THEY DO A LOT OF STUFF LIKE THAT. YEAH. AND I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND INVITE THE PUBLIC TO AND PUT THEM ON TEAMS DO IT NEXT YEAR. AND I DON'T KNOW, I WE NEED TO DO IT SOON. THIS IS NEXT MONTH. OKAY GIRL.

YES, HONEY? OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO START AT 530 OR DO YOU WANT TO START AT SIX 6:00? SO LET ME ASK. I'M GOING TO FINISH MY QUESTION. DID CAN WE CAN WE ORDER THAT? I MEAN, I KNOW THE BUDGET IS I KNOW WE GOTTA DO THIS. I GET THAT, BUT I DEFINITELY AFTER ALL OF THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO THE COMMUNITY TO TO SEE YEAH. SATURDAY ACTIVITY AND THEY AND PUT THEM ON TEAMS. YEAH. I'LL REACH OUT. I KNOW THE THE MANAGER AND LEON I ALSO IT WILL BE VALUABLE PROBABLY IF THE ADDITIONAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION COMES TO FRUITION TO HAVE THOSE KIND OF EXERCISES. BECAUSE IF WE ARE GOING TO BE MAKING REDUCTIONS IN YOUR BUDGET, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC. ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. YEAH. OKAY. FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE BUDGET MEETING, IT'S GOING TO BE 6:00. YES, PLEASE. I GOT THAT. OH, WE CAN'T COME AT 530. NO. YES. THE COMMUNITY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT COME AT 530. Y'ALL SAID YES. OKAY. AND I'M JUST JOKING. OKAY, SO 6 TO 630. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON? YES. YEAH. I DON'T NEED A VOTE. I JUST OKAY, WE JUST FOR ADVERTISING PURPOSES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IT HELPS. OKAY, SO THE TIME IS 6 TO 630 FOR THE BUDGET. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. 630 TO YOUR REGULAR MEETING WILL START AT 630 AND WE'LL TRY TO KEEP THOSE AGENDAS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY UNDERSTAND TIME AND THAT'S GOING TO BE FOR BOTH DATES. THAT'S FOR THE NINTH AND THE 23RD. ONCE A TENTATIVE AND ONCE YOU'RE FINAL. OKAY. OKAY.

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

[APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]

[Informational Item on Seminole Inn and State Funding Initiative with the Village of Indiantown ]

AND SO WE DID PUT IN AN APPROPRIATION REQUEST FOR $8 MILLION. THE APPROPRIATION REQUEST WAS VERY DETAILED AS FAR AS WHAT THE IMPROVEMENTS WERE THAT WERE GOING TO BE MADE.

IT'S IN CONJUNCTION WORKING WITH THE SEMINOLE TRIBE, AND THEY HAVE ARTIFACTS THAT THEY HAVE OFFERED TO BRING FORWARD BECAUSE PART OF THE SEMINOLE IN RESTORATION WILL BE TO SECURE THESE ARTIFACTS AND HAVE LIKE A MUSEUM. AND SO WE'VE ALSO HEARD THAT THERE'S ANOTHER INTENT TO REDO THE RESTAURANT AND BRING BACK SUNDAY BRUNCH. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN HERE, I KNOW I REMEMBER AS A KID GOING THERE AFTER CHURCH. SO, I MEAN, THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY, I THINK WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE,

[01:00:02]

CORRECT. THERE'S NO MATCH. IT'S IT'S NOT GOING TO BE MANAGED BY THE VILLAGE. IT'LL BE MANAGED BY AN ENTITY THAT WE, YOU, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, WILL HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH OR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO X, Y, AND Z IN EXCHANGE FOR THE VILLAGE TURNING OVER THE MONEY THAT THEY RECEIVE FROM THE LEGISLATURE. SO THE FACT THAT IT'S OWNED BY GARCIA, THEY BASICALLY HAVE PURCHASED IT FOR US SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS DONE.

AND WE'RE JUST GETTING THE GRANT TO DO IT. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE INTENT IN THE FUTURE IS NOT GOING TO BE OWNED BY THE GARCIA GROUP. IT'LL BE PLACED INTO SOME KIND OF HISTORIC ENTITY THAT WOULD MANAGE IT AND NOT JUST SEMINOLE IN. YOU COULD ADD OTHER OTHER HISTORIC LIKE THE CEMETERY. YOU'VE HEARD COUNCIL VICE MAYOR WATERS BROWN TALK ABOUT. YOU COULD ADD, IF THERE'S OTHER HISTORIC BUILDINGS OUT HERE, WE COULD ADD THOSE AND THEN WE CAN GO FOR FUNDING FOR THOSE TWO. SO SO I'M JUST REITERATING FOR THE FOR THE LAY PEOPLE, WE ARE NOT FUNDING THE GARCIA COMPANY TO INCREASE THEIR PROPERTY VALUE ON AN ASSET. THAT IS CORRECT.

THEY ARE PROVIDING US WITH A HISTORIC BUILDING TO THEN RESTORE. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

OKAY. AND I MENTIONED IN HERE TOO, JUST SO YOU HAVE A HEADS UP, I ALSO PUT IN APPROPRIATION REQUEST FOR 11 FOR 14 MILLION TO PROVIDE A NEW FIRE STATION FOR INDIANTOWN WITH A COMMUNITY ROOM THAT WOULD BE UTILIZED AS AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER AS WELL. AND THAT WILL BE ON DONATED PROPERTY. AND ALSO SUBORDINATING THAT PROPERTY TO US. THEY WILL BE DONATING THAT PROPERTY, AND EVENTUALLY IT'LL PROBABLY TURN OVER TO MARTIN COUNTY TO RUN IT AS A FIRE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. I'M GLAD THAT YOU YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING. AND WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT SPONSORING, YOUR NAME IS ON THERE. YES, MA'AM.

SO A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD MISUNDERSTANDING THAT THE VILLAGE AND TARYN WROTE THE GRANT. TARYN DID THIS, TARYN DID THAT. AND SO THAT'S FINE THAT YOU WROTE THE GRANT, BUT THE GRANT WAS NOT POCKETED MONEY FOR THE VILLAGE, IS THAT RIGHT? IT WAS FOR ME FOR REDOING THE SEMINOLE IN. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. YEAH. AND AND RECOGNIZING. YEAH. YOU THIS THIS COUNCIL WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT APPROPRIATIONS PREVIOUSLY IN APPLYING FOR GRANTS AND APPLYING FOR FUNDING, THESE THESE OPPORTUNITIES PRESENT THEMSELVES IN A VERY SHORT WINDOW. AND IT'S VERY COMPETITIVE. RIGHT? SO THE SOONER YOU CAN GET IN AND GET AHEAD OF IT. AND WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION ABOUT THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO SUPPORT THEM THE BETTER. AND SO THEY'RE QUICK. IT'S A QUICK TURNAROUND. SO YES, MY NAME IS ON THEM. YOU HAVE TO HAVE YEAH. THAT AND I DIDN'T BRING THEM TO YOU PRIOR TO BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM RIGHT. WELL I'M GLAD YOU ALSO SAID THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE SWIFTLY. YOU DO? BECAUSE IF WE DIDN'T, SOMEBODY ELSE CAN GET IT. THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT CEMETERY GET GET FIXED UP AND TAKEN CARE OF. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SIR? NOT ON THAT ITEM. SPORTS. WE STILL GOT THE INDIAN TOWN YOUTH SPORTS ASSOCIATION. YEAH. I WANT TO

[Indiantown Youth Sports Association and the Village of Indiantown]

[01:05:03]

THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE. COME ON UP. WELCOME, WELCOME. MY NAME IS BARBARA CLOWDUS. I'D LIKE TO FIRST TRY TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT MISS KRISTA POSED IN THE MEMO THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. AND ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT STILL NEED TO BE ANSWERED. FIRST OF ALL, SHE'S RIGHT. THE JTAA, WHICH IS THE JUPITER COAST ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION, WAS FOUNDED IN 1967. AT THAT TIME, JUPITER HAD 3100 PEOPLE LIVING THERE. WHAT THEY DID WAS FORM THIS ASSOCIATION TO BRING YOUTH SPORTS IN UNDER THE TOWN'S UMBRELLA, AND THEY FULLY FUNDED THE JTAA. IT WAS A SEPARATE, INDEPENDENT 501 C THREE ORGANIZATION, BUT IT WAS FUNDED BY THE CITY OF JUPITER. AS THE TOWN GREW AND MORE KIDS BECAME INVOLVED. SOMEWHERE AROUND THE LATE 70S, MAYBE EARLY 80S, JUPITER DECIDED THEIR. THEIR COMMISSION DECIDED TO MAKE AN ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION OF $10,000 TO THIS ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION TO HELP FUND IT, BUT NOT FULLY FUND IT. SO IT HELPED THEM HAVE THAT BASE EVERY YEAR. AND THEY DID THAT FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS, ABOUT A DECADE AGO. AND I GOT ALL THIS INFORMATION FROM JEFF LESLIE, WHO WAS THEIR PRESIDENT FOR NINE YEARS, AND CAME TO YOU AND SPOKE TO YOU ABOUT THIS ORGANIZATION. AND AFTER THEIR BUDGET BECAME LIKE $1 MILLION, THEY SAID, WELL, WE DON'T NEED TO FUND YOU ANYMORE. YOU YOU ARE YOUR SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF IT YOURSELF. NOW, JUPITER HAS 18 INDOOR AND OUTDOOR FACILITIES FOR SPORTS. THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT AND DREAMED ABOUT. BUT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT OVER THE PAST 50 YEARS IS THE FACT THAT THEY HAD SO MANY CHILDREN INVOLVED IN YOUTH SPORTS. THAT LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION HELPED THEM GET THE GRANTS THAT THEY NEEDED TO BUILD FACILITIES THAT THEY WANTED. THE $10,000 THAT THE INDIAN TOWN YOUTH SPORTS ASSOCIATION REQUESTED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE NEXT BUDGET, BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, WOULD COVER THE COST OF THE ADDITIONAL TRAINING THAT IS A REQUIRES OF ALL OF ITS COACHES, ALL ASSISTANT COACHES AND PARENTS. YOU HEARD MR. LESLIE EXPLAIN THAT TRAINING AND IT'S NOT AVAILABLE UNLESS THE ASSOCIATION IS WILLING TO PAY FOR THAT. THAT'S IN ADDITION TO WHAT COACHES ALREADY GO THROUGH WITH THEIR GOVERNING BODIES, BECAUSE EVERY SPORT HAS ITS OWN GOVERNING BODY, LITTLE LEAGUE,

[01:10:05]

THERE'S ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT A SPORTS BOARD. THE SPORTS BOARD ARE IT'S NOT ONE SPORTS BOARD, IT'S A SPORTS BOARD FOR EVERY SPORT. SO SOCCER WOULD HAVE ITS OWN SPORTS BOARD. THEY HAVE THEIR LEAGUE OFFICERS ALREADY. THEY HAVE THEIR COACHES, THEIR ASSISTANT COACHES. THAT IS THEIR SPORTS BOARD. DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY TEAMS THEY HAVE, EVERY COACH, EVERY ASSISTANT COACH THAT IS THEIR SPORTS BOARD. UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF ONE SPORTS COMMISSIONER, OUR BOARD COMPRISES OUR OFFICERS AND ALL SPORTS COMMISSIONERS.

WE WOULD PROBABLY START OFF WITH AROUND 4 OR 5, JUDGING BY THE INTEREST THAT WE'VE HAD SO FAR. SO THERE WOULD BE THOSE FIVE SPORTS COMMISSIONERS PLUS THE FOUR OFFICERS THAT COMPRISE THE EXECUTIVE BOARD. THERE ARE ALSO ADDITIONAL BOARD MEMBERS AND ASSOCIATE MEMBERS THAT MAKE UP THE FULL BOARD. BUT THE KEY TO WHAT MAKES THIS SO EFFECTIVE FOR VILLAGE GOVERNMENTS, TOWN CITIES IS THE FACT THAT THOSE SPORTS BOARDS SERVE AS THE REFEREE FOR PARENTAL COMPLAINTS.

THEY GO TO THE SPORTS COMMISSIONER FIRST. IF SOMEBODY MARCHES INTO THE PARKS DIRECTOR'S OFFICE AND WANTS ACTION TAKEN AGAINST A COACH, SHE'S GOING TO REFER THEM TO THE SPORTS COMMISSIONER FOR THAT SPORT. THE SPORTS COMMISSIONER WILL CONVENE SPORTS BOARD, AND THAT'S WHERE THE ISSUE IS RESOLVED. RESOLVED. HOPEFULLY. IF NOT, IT GOES TO THE EXECUTIVE BOARD OF THE IHSA AND WHATEVER THEY DETERMINE IS FINAL. THE WHAT IS SO APPEALING IS THAT YOU WON'T HAVE PARENTS COMING UP HERE COMPLAINING TO YOU GUYS, AND WE SEE THAT HAPPEN. THERE WAS REFERENCE TO A SPORTS COMMISSION. THERE IS NO SPORTS COMMISSION. THERE IS THE ASSOCIATION OF BOARD MEMBERS, NO SPORTS COMMISSION. WE REALLY WILL NOT HAVE A DETAILED BUDGET UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT SPORTS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, HOW MANY KIDS WERE GOING TO SERVE, AND IN THE MEANTIME, ALL OF THE BOOKS WILL BE OPEN TO THE VILLAGE, TO THE PARKS DIRECTOR. THE PARKS DIRECTOR IS AN EX-OFFICIO MEMBER OF THE IS BOARD. THE COST OF LIGHTS, ELECTRICAL SERVICES, FIELD MAINTENANCE IS PART OF THE VILLAGE'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT YOUTH SPORTS CAN OPERATE IN A SAFE MANNER, AS WELL AS PROVIDING BUILDINGS FOR EQUIPMENT AND ACCESSORIES. THE USE OF GYMNASIUMS AND POOLS. WOULD NEED TO BE RESERVED IN ADVANCE. BY IS A FOR BLOCKS OF TIME ALLOCATED IN THOSE FACILITIES LIKE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB WILL ALLOCATE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME OVER A YEAR. EACH MONTH. TWO. THE

[01:15:13]

WE'VE HAD FOUR MEETINGS. I MEAN, WE ARE AT THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING OF SOMETHING THAT HAS TAKEN US A YEAR TO GET TO THIS POINT. AND. AFTER WE HAVE THAT CALENDAR ONLINE, THE PUBLIC CAN ACCESS IT ANY TIME TO SEE WHAT IS VACANT, BEING UNUSED SO THEY CAN HAVE FAMILY EVENTS WITHOUT AN ISSUE. OKAY, I THINK I COVERED IT ALL. DID I COVER IT ALL? ALL RIGHT. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO, YES, OKAY. SO WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE.

OTHER OTHER TEAMS AND OTHER THINGS CAN PLAY ON THE FIELDS. OH, SURE. ABSOLUTELY. WHAT WHAT THE ISSUE IS, IS. WE WOULD BE CONSIDERED THE PRIMARY PROVIDER OF YOUTH SPORTS. AND THIS IS LIKE MISS CHRISTA SAID, WE HAVE PLANS FOR TEN COMMITTEES. IT WILL THIS THIS ASSOCIATION, THIS APPROACH, THIS MODEL TAKES A HUGE AMOUNT OF WORK AND VOLUNTEER HOURS AND BODIES AND PEOPLE AND COMMITMENT. IT'S NOT JUST A SIMPLE THING TO DO, AND IT REQUIRES THAT THERE'S A STRONG PARTNERSHIP WITH YOUR PARKS DIRECTOR, BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE DONE WITHOUT THAT COOPERATION AND WORK BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES. IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE, ONE OR THE OTHER.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE A MENTOR. AND IF YOU'LL RECALL, MR. LESLIE REFERRED US TO HIM AND HE HAS BEEN OUR MENTOR. HE SAID, ABSOLUTELY. IF YOU HAVE SHARED RESPONSIBILITY FOR SCHEDULING FIELDS, YOU ARE OPENING IT UP TO CHAOS. ONE OF THE REASONS, NOT THE ONLY REASON, BUT ONE OF THE REASONS IS FREQUENTLY WHEN YOU HAVE A LEAGUE, IF YOU HAVE A PARENT WHO'S UPSET WITH THE WAY A COACH IS RUNNING THINGS, THEY'LL GO AND START THEIR OWN LEAGUE. AND THAT IN ITSELF CREATES A A HUGE. ELEMENT OF DYSFUNCTION, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO SCHEDULING GAMES, ETC.

THE IDEA IS IF THE INDIAN TOWN KIDS ARE THE PRIORITY, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ALWAYS THE PRIORITY. SO IF A AN ORGANIZATION FROM ANOTHER TOWN WANTS TO HAVE A TOURNAMENT, SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT, OR SOME HUGE TOURNAMENT AND TIE UP ALL THE FIELDS. IT DOES NOT PRECLUDE WHAT YOUR REGULAR INDIAN TOWN RECREATIONAL LEAGUE IS DOING. AND THE ONLY. IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE TOURNAMENTS MAKE MONEY FOR THE VILLAGE OR. THAT'S THE IDEA ANYWAY. AND IT'S HARD TO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE LOOKING AT TURNING AWAY POTENTIAL REVENUE JUST BECAUSE THE RECREATION LEAGUE HAD PLANNED TO PLAY A GAME. AND THIS ELIMINATES THAT CONFLICT BY DESIGNATING THE IHSA AS YOUR PRIMARY PROVIDER OF YOUTH SPORTS, NOT ADULT SPORTS, BUT YOUTH SPORTS. SO HOW DOES THAT AFFECT. I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW. YOUR TEAM'S OKAY. HOW DOES THAT

[01:20:09]

OKAY. SO AND IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED WITH THEM? AND THEY'VE SAID BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. OKAY, PERFECT. AND WE ALSO HAVE SAND COURTS. THE VILLAGE JUST BUILT TWO VOLLEYBALL SAND COURTS BY IN BOCA PARK. AND TERRA LAGO IS BUILDING FOUR THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THEY ARE GOING TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND SO IT'S NOT GOING TO EXCLUDE OTHER OTHER TEAMS FROM JUST COMING AND PLAYING OR, OR, OR PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST GETTING TOGETHER AS A FAMILY GROUPS OR CHURCH GROUPS. THEY WILL NOT BE EXCLUDED FROM BEING ABLE. THEY, THEY JUST NEED TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR. RIGHT. YOU GOT IT.

OKAY, SO WHAT HAPPENS? THE TEAMS THAT OKAY, THIS I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT ANGELINA'S TEAM.

WHAT IF THEY DON'T WANT TO JOIN? WHAT IF THEY DON'T WANT TO JOIN? RIGHT. I CAN'T IMAGINE, BUT IF THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T. OKAY. I CAN'T FORCE THEM. ALL RIGHT. SO SO SO DEBBIE, IS THE DIRECTOR CORRECT? OKAY, SO DEBBIE IS ON ON BOARD WITH ALL OF THIS? NO. OH, OKAY. ISN'T SHE? THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS HERE. NUMBER ONE, SHOULD WE GIVE IT A TEN 000? AM I CORRECT? NUMBER TWO, SHOULD WE GIVE HER EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS TO THE FIELD? IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE. WE ARE PRIMARY PRIMARY PROVIDER PRIORITY RIGHTS PRIORITY RIGHTS. I HAVE A I HAVE A COMMENT. I WENT TO MEET JEFF LESLIE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT, AND I INVITED HIM HERE TO DO THE SPEECH, THE SPILL. HE GAVE US A MENTOR WHOSE NAME IS RUSS RUSK. I ASKED RUSS TO TELL

[01:25:08]

IN ORDER TO HAVE JUST ONE BASEBALL PROGRAM, THE VILLAGE WOULD IDENTIFY WHO THAT PROGRAM IS. THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE PROGRAMS OF THE SAME SPORT VYING FOR A VILLAGE FEEL.

AS YOUR PROGRAM GROWS, FIELD SPACE WILL BECOME A CHALLENGE, SO IT MAKES NO SENSE TO HAVE SIMILAR PROGRAMS TAKING. UP THE FIELD SPACE AND COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER. PRIMARY CAN ALSO BE CLASSIFIED AS PEER RECREATIONAL PROGRAM, WHEREAS TRAVEL SLASH CLUB WOULD BE CONSIDERED SECONDARY. I FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOWARDS THIS FOR YEARS. EVEN WHEN WE WERE ON THE BOARD, WE'VE BEEN WE WANTED THIS STRUCTURE. SO I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE BRINGING US THE STRUCTURE. I WANT TO ASK MISS RIZZO SOME QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO ME TO HAVE ONE THING, EVERYBODY WORKING IN THE SAME DIRECTION, BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS THOSE FOLKS THAT SAY, WELL, I WOULD HAVE DONE THAT THIS WAY OR WHATEVER, BUT THEY DIDN'T EVER DO IT. SO AT LEAST THIS IS GETTING SOMETHING DONE. BUT I DO WANT TO ASK DEBBIE HOW SHE WHAT SHE'S HER THOUGHTS ARE, COULD I ALSO INVITE ROW? ROW IS CHAIR OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD. ADVISORY BOARD TO TALK TO YOU, I. I HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD FOR HIM.

SO DURING. SO HE CAN DO IT AT THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY, SO WE'LL WANT TO DO IT BEFORE THEY TAKE A VOTE. OH, WE'RE NOT TAKING IT. THIS IS THIS IS JUST INFORMATIONAL. WE'RE NOT VOTING TONIGHT. WE HAVE TO VOTE TONIGHT. WE HAVE TO VOTE TONIGHT. BUT TONIGHT WE'RE NOT.

NO, WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE. YEAH. THIS IS JUST A REVIEW. OKAY. SORRY. ALL RIGHT. DEBBIE PARKS, DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD. SO AT THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD MEETING A FEW MONTHS BACK, BARBARA DID A PRESENTATION AND SHE ASKED THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD TO MAKE THEM THE PRIMARY YOUTH SPORTS AGREEMENT. AT THAT TIME, IT WAS IT WAS THE BOARD WANTED TO TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION. AND I SAID, HOLD UP, PLEASE. WE HAVE TWO CURRENT YOUTH SPORTS AGREEMENTS IN PLACE. WE CANNOT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE SOMEONE A PRIMARY WHEN SOMEONE ALREADY HAS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE VILLAGE FOR THEIR FIELD SPACE. SO I HAVE IN PLACE WITH THE INDIAN TOWN WARRIORS. THEY HAVE A THREE YEAR YOUTH SPORTS AGREEMENT. THEY'RE ONE YEAR INTO IT. SHE'S GOT TWO MORE ADDITIONAL YEARS BEFORE IT CAN BE RENEWED. AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER YOUTH SPORTS AGREEMENT IN PLACE FOR FOOTBALL. AND THAT IS FROM A GROUP THAT WAS ONCE TOGETHER THAT SPLIT. SO THE FOOTBALL, THE WARRIORS WENT OFF ON THEIR OWN FROM INDIAN TOWN COMMUNITY ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION. BUT WE STILL HAVE THAT YOUTH SPORTS AGREEMENT IN PLACE. AND WE HAVE THE ONE WITH THE WARRIORS. SO I SPOKE TO WADE AND HE SAID, WELL, TALK TO YOUR YOUTH SPORTS GROUPS AND SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. ANGELINA'S CONCERNED WAS IT WAS THE KIDS NOT LOSING OUT ON TIME. IS THIS GROUP WHO WANTS TO COME IN READY TO START THIS PROGRAM IN THE FALL, AND THEY'RE NOT READY TO START A PROGRAM. BUT AS BARBARA TOLD YOU, THEY'RE READY TO START SIGNING, TRYING TO REGISTER KIDS. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THE COACHES IN PLACE. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THE DOCUMENTATION COME THROUGH TO US. I TRIED TO ATTEND A MEETING OF THEIR GROUP AND WAS THROWN OUT OF IT, SO IT'S MADE IT A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR COMMUNICATION TO GO ON BETWEEN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN AND THIS GROUP. OH, I'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT. WHAT? WHO CAN I ASK A QUESTION TO ABOUT THAT? WHY? WHY YOU CAN ASK THAT THE WHOLE STORY. EXPLAIN WHY SHE WAS ASKED TO LEAVE THE MEETING. YEAH. STAY HERE.

DEBBIE. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY, THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD DID TAKE A VOTE. THEY DID RECOMMEND THAT WE BE THE PRIMARY PROVIDER, AND THEY DIRECTED DEBBIE TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL. HER RESPONSE WAS, I'M NOT MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION.

IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION, YOU DO IT. SHE DIRECTED HER COMMENTS TO RIO PACHECO, WHO WAS CHAIR. THAT'S WHY ROE IS HERE TONIGHT, TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THEY TOOK A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RECOMMEND IT AS A AS A PRIMARY YOUTH SPORTS PROVIDER. THE PROBLEM IS, AND THE REASON THAT I DID NOT WANT TO HAVE MISS RIZZO ATTEND A MEETING UNINVITED, I WAS BLINDSIDED, DID NOT KNOW SHE WAS COMING, WAS. EVERY TIME I HAVE ATTEMPTED TO DO ANYTHING,

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SHE INVITED ME, CHARLENE LYONS FROM THE YMCA, TIM FROM THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, BECAUSE WE HAD ALL THE FACILITIES SHE WANTED US TO HELP FACILITATE, TO COME TOGETHER AND MAKE IT WORK. I DON'T THINK YOU NEED AN INVITATION. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC, AND MY. MY EMPLOYEE DOESN'T NEED TO ASK MY PERMISSION TO SERVE ON A BOARD. HE DID, OUT OF RESPECT. BUT WHAT HE DOES WITH HIS OWN TIME IS HIS OWN BUSINESS. THE THE THING IS, IS THAT YOU ARE OUR PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR. AND WHAT YOU'VE EXPLAINED FROM MY UNDERSTANDING NOW IS THAT THE ROOM FOR RENT HAS A LEASE THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE. YES. AND IT WOULD NOT BE FAIR TO THOSE WHO HAVE MADE THAT YOU'VE MADE A COMMITMENT TO. SO THE WARRIORS GET PRIORITY ON FIELDS. THEIR SCHEDULES COME FIRST. WE RENT IT OUT AROUND THEIR SCHEDULES.

IT. THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE IF YOU'VE GOT AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE. SO HERE IS A POTENTIAL. I DON'T LIKE THIS DYNAMIC. I DON'T LIKE I WANT TO SEE COOPERATION, COLLABORATION.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS. AND IF THE ADULTS CAN'T COLLABORATE, NOTHING'S GOING TO WORK. BUT YOU ARE OUR DIRECTOR. YES, MA'AM. AND WE COUNT ON YOU TO MANAGE OUR PARKS AND REC. SO YOU ARE ALWAYS, IN MY OPINION, GOING TO HAVE THAT POSITION OF FINAL AUTHORITY. THANK YOU.

IT'S YOUR JOB. SO I'M THINKING MAYBE. WE LOOK AT SPORTS OTHER THAN AND I KNOW SOCCER, OF COURSE, IS YOUR BIG ONE. I KNOW THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST. BUT WE'VE ALREADY GOT A SOCCER TEAM THAT'S ESTABLISHED AND GOING WELL. AND I'M NOT IT'S NOT BECAUSE ANGELINA'S ON HERE. IT'S JUST BECAUSE IT'S IT'S GOT A LEASE. IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN DOING THIS. AND THE OTHER ONE IS REGULAR FOOTBALL. IT'S. YEAH, IT'S FOOTBALL WITH A THUNDERBIRD FOOTBALL. OKAY. SO MAYBE WE START THIS. I WAIT I THE IIYSASA WITH SOME A COUPLE OF OTHER SPORTS. AND I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THEM HAVING A YOUTH SPORTS AGREEMENT FOR THE SPORTS.

THEY'RE READY TO START SPORTS. THEY'RE READY TO START AS LONG AS THEY FOLLOW THE YOUTH SPORTS AGREEMENT. THE VILLAGE HAS IN PLACE. THE SAME THAT OUR OTHER GROUPS DO. BUT CAN I SAY SOMETHING AS AS ONE OF THE ONLY SPORTS LEAGUE IN INDIANTOWN, WE SUPPORT ISIYSA BECAUSE I'M ALL ABOUT THE KIDS OF INDIANTOWN I I I I I I'M VERY PROUD OF BARBARA BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF WORK. IT'S A LOT OF IT'S A LOT OF WORK. AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT YOUTH SPORTS. EVEN WHEN WE, WHEN WE FIRST INCORPORATED BACK IN 2017, WHEN WE WERE KNOCKING ON DOORS, GETTING THE PETITIONS TO SIGN. NOW WE HAVE A PLAN, BUT HOW CAN WE WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN? SO INDIANTOWN WARRIORS IS WILLING TO WORK BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT THE KIDS. SO YOU'RE WILLING TO TO JOIN? YEAH. OKAY. SEE, THAT MAKES A WHOLE DIFFERENT. THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME. SO NO PUN INTENDED. SO SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MANAGE IF THEY WANT TO RELINQUISH AND JOIN? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S MANAGEABLE? OH, ABSOLUTELY. WE

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THE WHAT? THUNDER. YEAH. IT'S THE INDIAN TOWN COMMUNITY ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION. BUT IT'S YEAH. THUNDERBIRDS ARE ARE THEY ALSO INTERESTED IN OR DO YOU KNOW IF THEY HAVE AN INTEREST IN BEING PART OF THE ASSOCIATION OR HAS ANYBODY APPROACHED YOU ABOUT THAT? EITHER ONE OF YOU. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF BARBARA HAD ANY FOOTBALL PLAYERS. OKAY. SO THEY HAVEN'T REALLY ESTABLISHED A TEAM. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A TEAM AND THEY DO PRACTICE MONDAY, TUESDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHTS AT THE BOOKER PARK FIELD. AND THEY YEAH, THEIR GAMES WOULD BE HAVE TO BE AT BIG MOUND PARK BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY OFFICIAL SIZE FIELD. OKAY, SO BUT YOURS DIDN'T YOU DIDN'T HAVE FOOTBALL ON YOURS. THAT'S A GOOD. SHE DIDN'T SHE DIDN'T ASK FOR SHE DIDN'T HAVE A COACH YET. BUT IT'S NOT ONE OF THE COACHES THAT'S READY. RIGHT. CORRECT.

RIGHT. IT'S NOT WHERE YOU WANT TO START. SO IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE ALL WANT THE YOUTH ASSOCIATION TO WORK. WE ALL WANT TO GET SOMETHING WHERE EVERYBODY'S HEADED IN THE SAME DIRECTION. AND MY BIGGEST CONCERN WAS WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS GOING TO PUT THE TEAM THAT'S BEEN HERE AND DONE THAT OUT. BUT THEY IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THEY WANT TO WORK WITH THIS. SO LET'S FIND A WAY OF FIGURING OUT HOW TO START MAYBE THREE SPORTS. WELL, SHE'S GOT FIVE ALREADY. SHE'S GOT FIVE, FIVE COACHES. OKAY. BUT OKAY. WELL CAN I JUST CHIME IN HERE? YEAH. OF COURSE. OKAY. LET ME FIRST SAY THAT THIS IS A BIG DEAL. SPORTS IS A BIG DEAL. WE NEED TO DO IT AND WE NEED TO GET IT RIGHT. OKAY. BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, THE KIDS DESERVE IT. AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING IN THAT GOT KIDS, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT THEM TO GO PLAY SOME SPORTS. I THINK THERE'S TOO MUCH EMPHASIS RIGHT NOW ON RULES AND REGULATIONS, AND NOT ENOUGH EMPHASIS ON GETTING THE KIDS OUT IN THE FIELD. I'M ALL FOR.

FUNDING $10,000 TO GET YOU STARTED. I'M ALL FOR THAT. I THINK YOU SHOULD GET THE KIDS ON THE FIELD, GET THE PROGRAM STARTED BEFORE WE GIVE ANY EXCLUSIVE USE. THERE'S NO EXCLUSIVE. TAKE THAT WORD. YEAH, IT'S NOT OKAY. BUT IF I WANTED TO RENT THE PARK, I HAVE TO COME TO YOU. I DON'T, I NO, NO, YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR. SEE WHO BUT WHO CONTROLS THAT CALENDAR? THE VILLAGE SHOULD CONTROL THOSE FIELDS. WE KNOW WHEN WE NEED TO CLOSE THEM FOR MAINTENANCE. WE KNOW HOW MUCH PLAY IS GOING ON. THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S NO RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN YOU TWO. THAT'S. THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE TALK ABOUT. WE WANT THE KIDS.

WE'VE BEEN GOING AROUND THIS MULBERRY BUSH FOR. IT'S IT'S TOO LONG. IF IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE KIDS AND IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS, YOU TWO ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT. I DO NOT THINK THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO RUN A PROGRAM. I THINK WE NEED TO BACK IT, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO RUN IT. I DO NOT WANT THE CITIZENS TO COME EVERY TIME SOMETHING GOES WRONG HERE. I DON'T WANT YOU BOMBARDED. I LIKE. LIKE WHAT? ANGELINA, IF THERE'S A PROBLEM, THEY GO TO HER. WE MANAGE THE FIELDS. THAT'S. SHE CALLS ME FOR LIGHTS AND FIELD SCHEDULES. THAT'S IT. OKAY, BUT LET ME ASK. LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING. IF. IS THERE A WAY THAT. SO YOU MANAGE THE FIELDS AND YOU MANAGE THE LIGHTS, RIGHT? THAT'S YOUR JOB.

I HAD TO YEAH. THINK ABOUT THAT A MINUTE. IS THERE A WAY OR HOW WOULD IT WORK IF SOMEONE HAS A SCHEDULE, HAS IT SCHEDULED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON THE FIELD THAT DAY? RIGHT NOW? HOW DOES THAT WORK? ANGELINA REACHES OUT TO YOUTH SPORTS AGREEMENT, REQUIRES THEY TURN IN THEIR SCHEDULE A MONTH IN ADVANCE SO THAT SO THAT I CAN GET IT ON THE SCHEDULE. NOW, IF WE HAVE RAINOUTS OR CHANGES, WE'RE WE'RE FLEXIBLE, BUT IT ALLOWS US TO SEE WHEN THE FIELDS ARE BOOKED AND WHEN OTHER PEOPLE CAN USE IT. IT'S ALLOWING THE COMMUNITY TO BOOK THEIR EVENTS TOO. IS IT ALSO POSSIBLE TO HAVE EMMA'S INITIATED BY THE VILLAGE WITH EITHER THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, THE YMCA, THE WHATEVER? WE HAVE AN MOU IN PLACE WITH THE YMCA RIGHT NOW TO OFFER OPEN SWIM ON FRIDAYS FROM 1 TO 3 SO THE KIDS CAN

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YEAH. WITH THE ORGANIZATION'S ACTUALLY RENTING WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO NEED THEIR INSURANCE. THEY'RE GOING TO NEED THEIR ASSURANCES THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT. YEAH.

HOWEVER, WE STILL HAVE TO KEEP MISS RIZZO IN THE LOOP BECAUSE SHE HAS TO MAINTAIN THE FIELDS.

SO I DON'T THINK A MONTH IN ADVANCE IS RIDICULOUS. YOU SHOULD GET YOUR SCHEDULES PUT TOGETHER IN A MINUTE. YOU YOU SHOULD GET YOUR SCHEDULES TOGETHER. AND THAT THAT SHOULD BE, I MEAN, A MONTH IN ADVANCE IS WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, I USED TO PLAY HOCKEY AND IT WAS EVERY THURSDAY NIGHT AT LIKE 1130 AT NIGHT TO 230 IN THE MORNING. THAT'S WHEN WE HAD THE ICE, YOU KNOW, AND IT WAS FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. AND WE MADE THAT SCHEDULE FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. WE CAN DO THAT, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, WE KNEW THAT ON THURSDAY NIGHTS WE WERE PLAYING. IT'S JUST LIKE THE POW OF BOXING. EXACTLY. YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE, WHAT TIME THEY'RE AVAILABLE. AND THAT'S NOT DIFFICULT. BUT WHO'S VYING FOR THE THE RINK OTHER THAN PALS? WELL, THEY MAKE IT AVAILABLE WHEN THEY HAVE THE SUPERVISION AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.

WHO ELSE WANTS TO USE THAT YOGA CLASSES GOING ON? I USE THE THE GYM CLASSES LIKE THINGS LIKE ON SUNDAYS FOR YOGA. YEAH. SO, SO DOING A SCHEDULE FOR A PROBLEM WITH THE SCHEDULE. OKAY. SHE NEEDS TO BE ON MIC. OH, SORRY, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF THE, OF. I JUST WANT TO SEE KIDS ON THE FIELD. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE. IS IT AS SIMPLE AS THE IRYSA HAVE THIS YOUTH AGREEMENT THAT ANGELINA'S ALREADY HAS. IT LAYS OUT ALL THE PARAMETERS. YEAH.

WHY NOT? WHY CAN'T WE? BECAUSE IT PUTS THE VILLAGE IN CONTROL OF WHEN THEY PLAY. AND WHENEVER YOU'VE HAD A LEAGUE, IF YOU'VE EVER STARTED A SPORTS LEAGUE, IT'S NOT SET IN STONE. IF YOU PLAY OUTSIDE. IT DEPENDED UPON THE WEATHER. SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE SICK, SOMETIMES TEAMS DON'T SHOW UP. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY IMMEDIATELY, NOT BETWEEN 9 AND 5 AND ON WEEKENDS, BUT THE THE PLAYERS AGREEMENT THAT SHE SIGNED WAS REWRITTEN IN APRIL OF 2025, AND THAT GIVES THE VILLAGE CONTROL OF THE FIELDS. AND THAT IS WHAT WE WERE ADVISED NOT TO SHARE RESPONSIBILITY FOR SCHEDULING. IT'S THE VILLAGE'S JOB TO MAINTAIN THE FIELDS, BUT AND TO WORK WITH THE PARKS DIRECTOR. AND I WANTED TO TALK TO MISS KRISTA BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A PROBLEM THAT'S BEEN BUILDING FOR MONTHS. WELL, AND WE STILL HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT. WELL, AMEN FOR THAT ONE IN IN MY IN MY YEARS, MY SEVEN CHILDREN, WE NEVER HAD FLEXIBLE SCHEDULES. THEIR GAMES WERE AT 3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON ON THIS FIELD PERIOD.

AND IF THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP, THEY LOST THE TOUGH LUCK. I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF BEING A TEAM MEMBER AND BEING RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO SHOW UP WHEN IT'S SCHEDULED. IT MAKES ALL THE SENSE IN THE WORLD TO ME THAT SHE HAS TO TELL YOU WHEN THE FIELDS ARE AVAILABLE AND OUR STAFF GO OUT THERE. IF IT'S RAINING TO SAY IF IT'S NOT SAFE TO PLAY, WE WE'VE WE CALL ANGELINA AND SAY IT'S NOT SAFE TO PLAY OR THE FIELDS ARE GOOD. AND IF SHE HAS A RAINOUT, SHE CALLS US. CAN I GET THE FIELD? THIS DAY? WE MAKE IT AVAILABLE THAT THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT HAS TO HAVE CONTROL OF WHEN AND HOW THE FIELDS ARE USED, PERIOD. IT ALLOWS US TO MAINTAIN IT. WELL, YOU DON'T. EXCUSE ME, THE JUPITER TEQUESTA. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP THEIR PARKS DEPARTMENT IS. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THEIR PARKS DEPARTMENT SET UP. WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE RELYING ON A MENTOR OR AN INDIVIDUAL THAT COULD HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES, A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES. DEBBIE. DIDN'T HE COME OUT TO VISIT WITH YOU? HE CAME OUT AND MET WITH US WHEN WE HAD THE, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHEN WE WERE LOOKING. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. YES. RIGHT. OUR ADVISOR IS A 30 YEAR

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SHE IS. SHE'S ON THE BOARD. OKAY. SO IN MY OPINION, WHATEVER'S GOING ON, SHE'S IN CHARGE OF THE FIELDS, PERIOD. AND IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, THEN I CAN'T PERSONALLY, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT. CAN WE HEAR FROM ROW? I ROW? PACHECO, CHAIRMAN OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. WE TOOK WE'VE BEEN LISTENING TO MISS BARBARA. WE HAD. I SAW SOMETHING COMING PRESENT HIS PRESENTATION. HE WANTED 80% AND THE VILLAGE WOULD GET 20%. THIS IS VOLUNTEER AND EVERYTHING. WE'VE BEEN GOING AROUND FOR THIS SINCE 2017. I ASKED MISS DEBBIE TO ANY PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO TALK TO THE VILLAGE TO COME AND PRESENT THEIR PRESENTATION TO US, AND WE RECOMMEND, AND I SAY WE NEED TO PUT A STOP TO THIS. WE CANNOT GO ON FOR YEARS. IF SOMEONE DECIDES AND SAYS, OH, I WANT TO START MY OWN LEAGUE, THEN WE STEP BACK ONE MONTH AND THEN SOMEONE ELSE SAYS, WELL, I WANT TO START MINE. SO WE SAID, I SAID, AND THE BOARD AGREED WITH ME. WE GOING TO STOP ON JUNE AFTER JUNE. WE GOTTA MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER. AND ME PERSONALLY, THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT NEED TO BE INVOLVED. WE HAVE WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S GOING TO TAKE THIS RESPONSIBILITY. I WENT TO ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS. THEY HAVE VERY, VERY DEDICATED BUSINESS PEOPLE THAT I GREW UP WITH FOR OVER 50 YEARS THAT ARE WILLING TO HELP HER AND HER ORGANIZATION. THEY, THEY HAVE A VERY GOOD FOUNDATION. I'VE BEEN THERE, I'VE SEEN IT. AND WYATT WENT TO. SO WE SEEN WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO BUILD. IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT IT'S A START. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T HAD.

IT'S A START. WE'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 2017 AND WE NEVER HAD A START. SO ME PERSONALLY AND THE BOARD MEMBERS, WE NEED TO JUMP ON THIS. WE NEED TO BECAUSE IF WE KEEP MOVING AND MOVING AND MOVING, WE'RE GOING TO STAY HERE. WE'LL I'LL BE A GRANDDAD BY THEN. AND WE'RE NOT DOING NOTHING. WE NEED TO START GOOD OR BAD. AND THIS TWO YOUNG LADIES, I'M A MAN. AND THE WAY MY FATHER TAUGHT ME WAS WOMEN FIX THEIR OWN STUFF, I HAVE. I LOVE BOTH OF THEM. I RESPECT BOTH OF THEM. I HAVE NOTHING BAD TO SAY ABOUT THEM, BUT THAT IS THE LEAST OF OUR WORRIES.

WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM MISS BARBARA, AND WYATT SAID IT. AND ONE OF THE MEETINGS WE HAVE HAD OPEN MEETINGS FOR PEOPLE TO COME. WE EVEN MOVED OUR MEETINGS FROM THE MORNING TO THE AFTERNOON TO HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE. WE HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE. SO ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO PRESENT AND OFFER A DIFFERENT PLAN THAN MISS BARBARA HAD, THEY WERE OPEN TO IT. THEY COULD HAVE CAME AND SAY, AND WE WOULD HAVE SAID, OH, THAT'S BETTER THAN HERS, OR CAN YOU WORK WITH THEM? NOBODY SHOWED UP. RIGHT. SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS I'M GOING WITH THE PERSON WHO'S ALWAYS THERE AND HAS SHOWED ME AND THE BOARD. ADVISORY BOARD PROGRESS AND THE COMMUNITY CITIZENS FROM THIS COMMUNITY, THEY HAVE WILLING TO HAVE A PRESIDENT, VICE

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OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE GETTING READY TO PUT SOME MONEY INTO THE PARKS, OKAY.

SOMEHOW. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE CONTROL OF THE PARKS WITH DEBBIE. OKAY.

OKAY. SHE'S OUR PARKS DIRECTOR. OKAY. IT COMES TO A VOTE. I'LL GIVE YOU $10,000. OKAY? BECAUSE, YEAH, YOU PUT A LOT INTO IT, AND YOU GOT TO DO WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO DO. AND THE ONE THING THAT THAT CONCERNS ME IS, DO YOU HAVE INSURANCE? I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE INSURANCE AND THAT AND THAT THE VILLAGE IS ALSO LISTED IN THAT INSURANCE. OKAY, TO PROTECT THE VILLAGE. BUT SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GIVING YOU $10,000. I REALLY DON'T IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT IS, BUT IT'S NOT. SO WHAT I SUGGEST IS THAT YOU START PUTTING YOUR TEAMS TOGETHER, YOU GET THE KIDS INVOLVED. LET'S SEE SOME KIDS ON THE FIELD. LET'S SEE THE PARKS FILLED UP. LET'S SEE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. AND THEN MAYBE WE'LL REVISIT IT DOWN THE ROAD ONCE OUR PARKS ARE BROUGHT UP TO, TO, YOU KNOW, AN EXCELLENT STANDARD. AND MAYBE AT THAT POINT I WOULD I WOULD BE WILLING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE CONTROL OVER IT. OKAY. ME REPRESENTING THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD AND MEETING ONCE A MONTH FOR THE LAST 13 MONTHS AND US DISCUSSING THIS, MY RECOMMENDATION IS AS THE OTHER FOUR MEMBERS IS TO GO WITH BARBARA. THAT'S WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING FROM US, SPENDING THE LAST SIX MONTHS DISCUSSING STUFF AND HEARING HER PROPOSAL. MY RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD IS TO GIVE GO WITH BARBARA, AND WE NEED TO GO WITH SOMEONE BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT GOING TO DO NOTHING. Y'ALL HAVEN'T DONE NOTHING THE LAST NINE YEARS. AND THAT'S I'M NOT BLAMING NONE OF Y'ALL, BUT THAT'S FACTS. WELL, AS YOU SAID, IT'S NOT A GOVERNMENT THING. YEAH. WE PROVIDE THE FACILITY AND THE CITIZENRY HAS NOT STEPPED UP AND DONE WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. WELL, SHE'S RIGHT HERE. SO OKAY, WE'RE READY TO GO. WE ARE SAYING THAT WE WANT TO SEE THIS SUCCEED. BARBARA, YOU'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER. I KNOW HOW IT IS, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE GOT TO WORK WITHIN THE SYSTEM. AND DEBBIE RUNS THE FIELDS AND SHE CHANGED THE SYSTEM. OKAY, I'M SAYING IT'S ON RECORD IF WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO. OKAY. SO YES, WE DO NEED TO GET THIS SETTLED HERE.

HERE'S THE THING. I THINK WE'VE MADE IT CLEAR HOW WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE A PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR THAT IS GOING TO MANAGE THE FIELDS, AND YOU NEED TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS WITH HER WHEN YOU NEED TO USE THOSE FIELDS. THAT, I THINK YOU HAVE OUR SUPPORT. I DON'T IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE I'VE GOT A LOT OF SHAKING HEADS UP HERE, BUT YOU TWO NEED TO LEARN TO WORK TOGETHER. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT TURNING OVER OUR PARKS TO AN ASSOCIATION. AND TO BE FAIR TO MYSELF, I DID NOT KNOW THIS DYNAMIC WAS GOING ON. OKAY, SO THIS THIS IS THE FIRST TIME HE FINDINGS. SO THAT'S ALRIGHT. WE'LL KEEP YOU OUT OF IT. BUT HERE THIS IS THIS IS THE THING I THINK DEBBIE WANTS EVERYTHING TO WORK OUT AS WELL. HOWEVER, SHE'S BOUND BY AGREEMENTS THAT SHE'S ALREADY MADE, AND SHE'S ALSO BOUND BY SCHEDULES THAT SHE HAS. SHE HAS KEPT OUR FIELDS GOING WITH NO MONEY FOR GOODNESS SAKE, FOREVER. SO WE ALL WANT TO SEE YOU SUCCEED. ABSOLUTELY. I LOVE THIS IDEA. YOU'VE TAKEN IT, YOU'VE RUN WITH IT. YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SINCE I GOT ON THE EXCELLENT JOB. BUT WE NEED THE COLLABORATION. BUT CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? YEAH. SO AS SOMEONE WHO STARTED THE LEAGUE BACK IN 2017 WHEN WE INCORPORATED, IT TOOK A LOT OF WORK. AND I APPLAUD THE BOARD FOR THE I, IYSA BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS NEVER GOING TO GET DONE.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, I'VE COMMITTED FOR SOCCER UNTIL YOU KNOW MY TIME, BUT RIGHT NOW THAT'S THE ONLY SPORT WE GOT TO OFFER. AND THE BOARD DECIDED I, I Y S.A. GOT TOGETHER. HEY, WE

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THE COUNT STAFF WANTED DIRECTION ON THIS IS AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THAT? YES, WE DO THAT PARTICULARLY TO LAY OUT HOW THE $10,000, YOU KNOW, WE FOUND OUT THIS EVENING IT WAS GOING TO BE FOR SOME ADDITIONAL TRAINING. OKAY. SO MR. VOSS CAN PUT THAT DOCUMENT TOGETHER AND WE CAN WORK. SO WHAT I'M HEARING HERE IS THAT WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH GIVING HER CONTRACT TO BE THE PROVIDER. YOUR TEAM IS GOING TO GO UNDER HER UMBRELLA, RIGHT. AND ANY OTHER TEAMS THAT ARE GOING TO COME IN ARE GOING TO GO UNDER HER UMBRELLA, AND THAT WE'RE WILLING TO GIVE HER THE $10,000, AM I CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY, SO THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GIVING. I HAVE A QUESTION THAT, WITH THE CAVEAT IN THERE, THAT THE PARKS ARE CONTROLLED BY THE VILLAGE. YEAH. SO SHE HAS TO GO THROUGH THE VILLAGE. SHE'S GOT FIVE TEAMS AND SHE NEEDS TO PARK FIVE DAYS A WEEK. SHE NEEDS TO BOOK THOSE PARKS FOR FIVE DAYS A WEEK. SO, SO JUST LIKE WHAT ANGELINA IS DOING CURRENTLY. YEAH. IT'S WORKING. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN WORKING. MISS RUSSO HAS BECAUSE FIGURED IT OUT AND THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

EXACTLY. I THINK WE I THINK WE ALL WANT TO SEE KIDS ON THE FIELD. I REALLY WANT TO SEE KIDS ON THE FIELD. YOU KNOW THAT THAT BOXING RING. OKAY. THEY GOT THEY GOT TO TURN OUT BETTER THAN I EVER THOUGHT THEY WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW. SO IT'S WORKING NOW. THE GOLF, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH PAL. WE GOT THINGS WE GOT THINGS STARTED OUT HERE. AND I WANT YOU TO HAVE A KNOCKOUT PROGRAM, I REALLY DO. SO THEN THE QUESTION IS, BARBARA, ARE YOU YOU HEARD WHAT THE MAYOR SAID IS, ARE YOU GOING TO AGREE TO THAT? I DON'T OKAY, SO WHERE DO WE GO? I HAVE A QUESTION. NO, LET HER ANSWER. WE'D BE CUTTING EACH OTHER OFF. ANSWER THE QUESTION, MISS KLAUS, IF YOU COULD PLEASE POP ON UP TO THE MIC. THIS IS THE WAY I WOULD AGREE TO WORK TEMPORARILY WITH MISS RIZZO FOR SCHEDULING FIELDS. AND I KNOW MR. RUTSKY IS GOING TO SHOOT ME BECAUSE WHAT HE SAID OVER AND OVER DO NOT SHARE RESPONSIBILITY FOR SCHEDULING FIELDS, BECAUSE YOU WILL OPEN IT UP TO CHAOS. WE CAN TRY IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY, TO HECK WITH INDIAN TOWN YOUTH SPORTS ASSOCIATION AFTER I'VE SPENT AN ENTIRE YEAR JUST GETTING TO THIS POINT. BUT I DO HOPE THAT YOU HAVE OPEN MINDS SO THAT WHEN AND IF I EVER COME BACK AND SAY THIS IS NOT WORKING, WE NEED TO ADJUST THAT. YOU WILL NOT HAVE A CLOSED MIND TO IT.

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CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. CAN WE VOTE? OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT'S IT. THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING. GIVE HER A CONTRACT TO BE THE SOLE PROVIDER. AND EVERY EVERYBODY CAN GO UNDER HER UMBRELLA, PRIMARY, PRIMARY, PRIMARY. YEAH. BUT UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE PARKS AND REC. YEAH. AND, AND MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, LET ME LET ME RECOMMEND TWO RELATED THINGS ON THIS TO THE, TO THE POINT. AND IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A VOTE TO, TO GIVE US DIRECTION TO GO DO THIS, THAT'S FANTASTIC. WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, JUST BECAUSE DEVIL CAN BE IN THE DETAILS, A LOT OF TIMES IT'S REALLY GOOD. SO WE DON'T HAVE CONFUSION IN THE FUTURE. WE GOTTA SORT THIS OUT WITH SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF YOUTH SPORTS AGREEMENT THAT HAS BEEN USED BEFORE. IT HAS THE THE FORMAT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, ABOUT THE VILLAGE STILL CONTROLLING THE FIELDS AND ALL OF THIS TO ADDRESS THIS ACROSS DIFFERENT SPORTS AND SO ON. AND THEN LIKELY WITH REGARD TO THE $10,000, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL, WE HAVE A BRIEF MOU WITH THE ORGANIZATION MAKING VERY CLEAR WHAT THAT'S GOING TOWARDS, BECAUSE WHAT YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT IS THAT GOING TOWARDS TRAINING FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT, I'M SORRY, INSURANCE FIRST. OH, WE HAVE IT'S IT'S ONE OF THE MANY REQUIREMENTS IN THE YOUTH SPORTS AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE INSURANCE AND THAT IT LISTS THE VILLAGE AS AN ADDITIONAL INSURED. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THOSE PROTECTIONS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN WORKED THROUGH BEFORE, BUT PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO THE $10,000 WAS GOING TO SAY IS THAT WE JUST HAVE VERY CLEAR ON PAPER, YOU KNOW, PRECISELY WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING TO, BECAUSE, AS YOU'VE HEARD, THAT'S A GOOD BENEFICIAL USE, YOU KNOW, TO THE BENEFIT OF THE WHOLE BROAD PROGRAM TO GIVE THAT THAT TRAINING TO ALL THOSE COACHES AND ADDITIONAL FOLKS INVOLVED. SO SO WITH THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO WRITE THE CONTRACT, RIGHT? YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE YEAH. WITH, WITH THE DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT TOGETHER AND WORKING WITH DEBBIE WITH REGARD TO THE YOUTH SPORTS AGREEMENT AND SO ON. AND THEN WITH REGARD TO, AT THE VERY LEAST, THE MOU, IT'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU ALL IF THE THERE'S ANYTHING UNIQUE IN THE YOUTH SPORTS AGREEMENT THAT WE THINK NEEDS TO COME BACK TO YOU ALL. WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU ALL AS WELL. OKAY, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. SO I HAVE ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY. IN OUR YOUTH SPORTS AGREEMENT, WE DO NOT ALLOW ANY OUTSIDE ENTITY TO COLLECT FUNDS FOR THE VILLAGE. IF FOR PARK RESERVATIONS, FIELD RESERVATIONS, LIGHTS. THAT'S ALL COLLECTED THROUGH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT, THROUGH OUR TYLER SYSTEM. OKAY, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF MONEY BEING COLLECTED ON BEHALF OF BECAUSE THE AUDITING

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SHE'S INDICATED THAT THAT WILL REQUIRE HER TO REVISE HER BYLAWS AND THEN GET THOSE APPROVED. AND I'M SURE OUR ATTORNEY WOULDN'T MIND LOOKING AT THOSE AND HELPING HER MAKE THOSE CHANGES. AM I CORRECT? I LET ME ACTUALLY I'VE BEEN MEANING TO HAVE THIS SPEECH ANYWAYS WITH WITH ALL THIS BECAUSE THIS AND I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE IN OTHER CITIES AND SO ON, BECAUSE THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT WE WILL BE, OF COURSE, WORKING WITH.

BUT THERE, THE OTHER SIDE OF A, OF A, OF A GOOD RELATIONSHIP THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ANTICIPATE I CAN'T GIVE THEM LEGAL ADVICE. I HAVE REVIEWED THE BYLAWS. I'M AWARE OF WHAT MISS GLADYS IS REFERENCING. I THINK THERE IS A SENTENCE THAT WOULD NEED TO GET CHANGED IN THERE TO THAT END.

SO I'M I'M FEEL CONFIDENT. CAN YOU ADVISE CAN YOU ADVISE OUR SPORTS BOARD THAT WE PUT TOGETHER OUR THE VILLAGE'S ADVISORY COMMITTEE? ABSOLUTELY. OH YEAH. OKAY. SO THEN ONCE ALL OF THIS IS DONE, THEN WE COME. WHEN DOES SHE GET THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET? IT STARTS TEN ONE, 2026. OKAY. YEAH. THE THOUGHT IS THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT WE'LL GET THE MOU TOGETHER NOW IN ANTICIPATION OF THAT. ALL RIGHT, MISS GLADYS WE GOOD. YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING AND ALL THAT. WE. GREAT. OKAY. YOU'RE GOOD. NO BUT OKAY. WELL YOU KNOW SOMETHING. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE MAY LOSE A LITTLE, YOU MAY LOSE A LITTLE, BUT THE KIDS ARE THE ONES GOING TO. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM IT. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. SO I REALLY I REALLY WANT THIS THING TO SUCCEED. I REALLY, REALLY DO. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN FROM DAY ONE, YOU KNOW, AND I LOOK AT PARKS AND YOU KNOW WHAT MY THOUGHTS ARE ON PARKS AND WHAT I WANT TO DO AND LAND. I WANT TO PURCHASE AND EXPAND OUR PARKS BECAUSE AS OUR COMMUNITY EXPANDS, WE NEED TO EXPAND OUR PARKS. THAT'S A BIG DEAL. THAT'S A BIG DEAL. PEOPLE MOVE TO COMMUNITIES FOR PARKS, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN ITEM COMING TO YOU IN TWO WEEKS RELATIVE TO A OBLIGATION PLEDGE THAT IS BEING MADE TOWARD THE VILLAGE TO HELP ASSIST WITH YOUR ATHLETIC FIELDS. GOOD. AWESOME. AWESOME. WELL, I'M A COURT MEDIATOR. I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, BUT I DO COURT MEDIATIONS. AND WHAT I TELL MY PEOPLE IN MEDIATION IS, IF THIS GOES WELL, YOU'LL BOTH LEAVE EQUALLY DISSATISFIED. SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. AND I APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU BEING WILLING TO GIVE A LITTLE.

DIDN'T WORK THAT WAY. BE MUTUALLY DISSATISFIED. I SHOULD HAVE CALLED YOU. YOU SHOULD HAVE CALLED ME. OKAY. THAT'S IT. WELL, MAYOR, WHAT WE GOT, ARE WE DONE? OKAY, WELL, WE DON'T

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THIS SATURDAY POST FAMILY PARK, WE HAVE OUR FARMER'S MARKET THAT'S RUNNING FROM 9 TO 12.

PLEASE COME OUT AND SUPPORT OUR VENDORS. WE'RE TRYING TO HELP GROW THIS FRIDAYS. THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT IS WORKING WITH THE YMCA FOR OPEN SWIM. FROM 1 TO 3. THE KIDS CAN COME OUT AND SWIM. WE DON'T ALLOW ANY STRAY ADULTS, BUT PARENTS CAN COME WITH THEIR CHILDREN. I DON'T WANT ANY CREEPY ADULTS HANGING AROUND. I WANT KIDS IN THE POOL. I WANT THEM SWIMMING.

I WANT PARENTS THERE WITH THEM. AND SATURDAY, JULY 11TH, OUR FAMILY FUN DAY IS COMING UP AS WELL. THAT'S AROUND THE CORNER. THIS WILL BE OUR FOURTH ANNUAL ANNUAL FAMILY FUN DAY EVENT, AND WE'RE GETTING GREAT SPONSORSHIPS. AND IT WILL BE FROM 10 TO 2. YOU HAVE LIFEGUARDS. ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A LIFEGUARD WITH THE OPEN SWIM? SO THE YMCA PROVIDES THE LIFEGUARDS AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT PROVIDES SOCIAL ISSUES, CONTROLS, IF WE HAVE ANY LAST LAST FRIDAY, WE HAD ABOUT 15 PEOPLE IN THE POOL AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES. IT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT. GREAT FAMILY. FUN. DAY IS SATURDAY, JULY 11TH AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR VENDORS AND SPONSORS. THANK YOU. OKAY, IS THAT IT? ANYTHING ELSE? THERE'S NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS SO WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. TREASURE COAST FOOD DRIVE IS TOMORROW, 8 A.M. AT THOMAS

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