[CALL TO ORDER]
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OKAY. LET'S CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE ROLL CALL. MAYOR DEPAOLO HERE.
VICE MAYOR WATERS BROWN HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. PEREZ. SHE'S ONLINE, SO WE'LL GIVE HER A SECOND. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. PALMER, PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER ONZAGA HERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. WELCOME TO OUR APRIL 30TH INDIAN TOWN VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING. I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU TO SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. THE BATHROOMS ARE LOCATED THROUGH THE DOOR TO THE RIGHT AT THE END OF THE HALL. THERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THE EXIT DOORS ARE CLEARLY MARKED. BOTH ENDS OF THE CORRIDOR. TONIGHT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK. THE FIRST ONE WILL BE DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION, WHERE YOU CAN SPEAK TO ANY SUBJECT, BUT ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA CAN'T BE ON THE AGENDA.
YOUR SECOND OPPORTUNITY WILL BE DURING THE AGENDA DISCUSSION ITEM. REMEMBER TO KEEP THE CIVILITY, OUR CIVILITY CLAUSE. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES IN EACH SEGMENT AND FILL OUT. THERE'S A TABLE IN THE BACK WITH WITH A CARD, FILL THAT CARD OUT AND GIVE IT TO THE CLERK, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. AND LIKE I SAID, THREE MINUTES IN EACH SEGMENT. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO STAND FOR THE INVOCATION GIVEN BY. PASTOR WILLIAMS AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. HELLO, OUR DEAR FATHER IN HEAVEN. WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT HAS GIVEN US TO TO SPEAK OUR MINDS AND TO AND TO WORK TOGETHER. WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THIS PLACE WE HAVE TO MEET AND AND THE TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE TO SHARE AND TO HEAR. WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE HARD WORKING PEOPLE IN THE VILLAGE, AND ESPECIALLY FOR OUR LEADERS HERE. WE ASK THY SPIRIT BE WITH US, THAT WE MAY KEEP OUR HEARTS AND MINDS AND EARS OPEN, THAT WE MAY STRIVE TO LISTEN, THAT WE MAY LEAVE CONTENTION BEHIND, AND WE MAY WORK TOGETHER TO DO THINGS THAT ARE NOT ONLY PLEASING TO THE PEOPLE OF INDIAN TOWN, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, THINGS THAT ARE PLEASING UNTO THEE. AND WE ASK THAT THY SPIRIT BE WITH US, THAT WE MAY HAVE THIS LOVE IN OUR HEARTS. AND THIS WE PRAY IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. EVEN DURING THE PRAYER.
[Proclamation - Teacher Appreciation Week]
OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY PROCLAMATIONS? WE JUST WANTED TO GET OUR TEACHERS IN THE ROOM SO THEY COULD HEAR THE PROCLAMATION. THERE. PROCLAMATION FOR TEACHER APPRECIATION WEEK. WHEREAS TEACHERS PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN SHAPING THE MINDS, CHARACTERS, AND FUTURES OF STUDENTS BY PROVIDING KNOWLEDGE, GUIDANCE, INSPIRATION, AND SUPPORT. AND WHEREAS EDUCATORS ACROSS OUR SCHOOLS DEMONSTRATE UNWAVERING DEDICATION, CREATIVITY AND PROFESSIONALISM, OFTEN GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO ENSURE THAT EVERY STUDENT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUCCEED. AND WHEREAS TEACHERS FOSTER A LOVE, A LOVE OF LEARNING, ENCOURAGE CRITICAL THINKING, AND HELP STUDENTS DEVELOP THE SKILLS THEY NEED TO THRIVE ACADEMICALLY, SOCIALLY, AND EMOTIONALLY. AND WHEREAS THE WORK OF TEACHERS EXTEND BEYOND THE CLASSROOM AS THEY PARTNER WITH FAMILIES, CONTRIBUTE TO THE WELL-BEING OF THEIR COMMUNITIES, AND SERVE AS MENTORS AND ROLE MODELS. AND WHEREAS, DURING TEACHER APPRECIATION WEEK, WE RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THE IMMEASURABLE CONTRIBUTIONS TEACHERS MAKE EACH AND EVERY DAY, AND WE EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE FOR THEIR COMMITMENT, RESILIENCE, AND COMPASSION. NOW THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK MAY 4TH THROUGH MAY 8TH, 2026 AS TEACHER APPRECIATION WEEK IN[00:05:03]
THE VILLAGE AND ENCOURAGE ALL STUDENTS, FAMILIES, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO JOIN IN HONORING TEACHERS FOR THEIR EXTRAORDINARY SERVICE AND DEDICATION. MAYOR. AND WE WOULD LIKE. IN COUNCIL, WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TEACHERS FROM ALL OF THE SCHOOLS HERE IN TOWN WARFIELD, INDIANTOWN, MIDDLE, HOPE RURAL. WHO AM I, PERKINS HEAD START IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO UP TO THE PODIUM, YOU CAN SAY SOMETHING AND SAY SOMETHING. SHARE ON. MY NAME IS LUCY BRONZE. I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF BEING A MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHER. OH, DOWN. THERE YOU GO. MY NAME IS LUCY BRONZE. I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF BEING A MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHER. IT'S REALLY GREAT TO BE THERE BECAUSE I ACTUALLY GET TO WORK WITH TEACHERS THAT WERE MY TEACHERS GROWING UP THERE. YEAH. SO IT'S REALLY COOL. IT'S STILL WEIRD BECAUSE THEY WANT ME TO CALL THEM BY THEIR FIRST NAME, AND I'M LIKE, I CAN NEVER DO THAT. LIKE, YOU WILL ALWAYS BE MISS LEONARD, YOU KNOW, YOU WILL ALWAYS BE MISS POTATO TO ME, BUT I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE THERE AND VERY HAPPY. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? NO. DO WE JUST DO IT RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF THE. YEAH. COME ON, COME ON. IT'S EASY TO TALK WITH KIDS. IT'S NOT AS EASY TO TALK TO. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SUSANA LOPEZ. I WORK AT SCHOOL. I'M A PE TEACHER AND A PARENT. OUTREACH. THANK YOU SO MUCH.THANK YOU. I THOUGHT WE WERE TAKING A PICTURE. HELLO. MY NAME IS EDITH AND I WORK AT GARFIELD ELEMENTARY. I'M ONE OF THE TEACHERS, SO I GET TO WORK WITH THOSE LITTLE ONES BEFORE THEY GO TO KINDERGARTEN. SO IT'S THE FOUNDATION BEFORE WE SEND THEM TO KINDERGARTEN. IT'S A PLEASURE. IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE, AND ESPECIALLY ME THERE. I GREW UP BEING IN MEXICO AND BEING ONE OF MY FIRST GENERATIONS TO GET A DEGREE AGAIN. IT'S A PLEASURE BEING HERE. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. MY NAME IS TARA MAGGIO. I'VE BEEN A TEACHER AT WARFIELD FOR 20 YEARS. WOW. BEEN COMING OUT HERE FOR 20 YEARS. I'VE SEEN LOTS OF CHANGES. I LOVE IT HERE. I'M SO GLAD AND HONORED TO BE HERE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
WE'RE HONORED TO HAVE YOU. Y'ALL WANT TO COME UP AND GET YOUR PROCLAMATION? WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE RIGHT UP FRONT HERE. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH, OUR NEW BUILDING. YEAH. LOOK, SKINNY IN THE BACK. WE WON'T SEE YOU ANYMORE. OKAY.
OVER HERE. YEAH. TWO DOWN HERE. OKAY.
THANK YOU. MAKE SURE THAT ANGELINA IS WITH US. OKAY? THERE. ON THE BACK
[PUBLIC COMMENT (3 MINUTES EACH)]
THERE. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE GOT PUBLIC COMMENTS. YES, SIR. OKAY. AND PRIOR TO GETTING STARTED WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, PLEASE. I'D JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY, WE HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES. AS THE MAYOR SAID INITIALLY TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE COLOR CODED THE CARDS SO THAT WE HOPE IT WOULD BE LESS CONFUSING THAN WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. BUT WE ALSO WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE REQUESTS TO SPEAK FORMS ARE PART OF OUR VILLAGE'S OFFICIAL RECORDS FOR THIS MEETING, SO WE ASK THAT YOU FILL THEM OUT COMPLETELY, PROVIDING US WITH YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION.CONTACT INFORMATION IS ALSO IMPORTANT FOR US BECAUSE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR
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EVALUATION, APPRAISAL REVIEW FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A DATABASE SO WE CAN CONTACT RESIDENTS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN BEING A PART OF THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR YOUR COMMENTS. BUT PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. THANK YOU. NOW HERE WE GO. THANK YOU, MISS JEAN. RIGHT. MY NAME IS JEAN WRIGHT. I LIVE ON WEST FARM ROAD. HAD TO BRING RILEY WITH ME BECAUSE MAMA SAID, DON'T YOU EVER WAKE A SLEEPING BABY? SO WE ARE NOT WAKING A SLEEPING BABY. FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO SEE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO TOLERATE OR EXPERIENCE A SILVER FOX 606 HYPERSCALE DATA CENTER. I DON'T NEED TO GIVE MANY REASONS WHY WE DID NOT WANT THAT, OR WHY IT WAS NOT A GOOD FIT. BUT THE ONE BIGGEST REASON IS BECAUSE THE TOWN HAS SAID, NO, WE DON'T WANT IT AND WE SHOULD END IT AS THAT. YOUR JOB AS OUR VILLAGE COUNCIL PEOPLE IS TO SUPPORT US, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE A PART OF THIS TOWN AND A PART OF THIS VILLAGE. THAT IS YOUR NUMBER ONE JOB TO SUPPORT US AND SUPPORT WHAT WE HAVE ASKED YOU TO DO BECAUSE YOU WORK FOR US. BRINGING TOGETHER SUCH A DIVERSE GROUP OF COMMITTED PEOPLE TO PROTECTING THE HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT OF OUR COMMUNITIES IS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ALWAYS WANT. THAT WAS A QUOTE FROM WYATT DEAL, WHO ALSO HELPED OKEECHOBEE WHENEVER THEY WERE TRYING TO GET RID OF THEIR DATA CENTER THAT THEY DID NOT WANT. WE WORKED TOGETHER AS A TOWN. I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL ALWAYS WORK TOGETHER AS A TOWN.THE DIVERSITY DOES NOT MATTER BECAUSE WE'RE ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY HERE AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. SO REMEMBER THAT YOUR JOB ULTIMATELY IS TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF INDIANTOWN. THANK YOU. MARGARET WRIGHT. FOR THE RECORD, MAGGIE WRIGHT, WEST FARM ROAD, WE ALL KNOW WHAT I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON TONIGHT REGARDING THE SILVER FOX 606 DATA CENTER. WE THE PEOPLE ONE YESTERDAY, INDIAN TOWN ONE YESTERDAY. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO THREE MORE TIMES FOR THE DATA CENTERS WE ARE AWARE OF, OR AS MANY TIMES AS IT TAKES FOR HOWEVER MANY THAT ARE TRIED TO SLIP IN. WE ARE SMALL BUT MIGHTY, AND WE DON'T PLAY ABOUT OUR TOWN. AND NOTICE I SAID TOWN, NOT VILLAGE. THIS WILL ALWAYS BE MY TOWN AND WE WILL ALWAYS FIGHT FOR ITS PRESERVATION. I DO REMEMBER IN EVERY BI WEEKLY MEETING LEADING UP TO TONIGHT, SINCE WE FOUND OUT IN FEBRUARY, THE COUNCIL TELLING US THAT YOU MAKE THE TOWN'S DECISIONS AS QUOTE UNQUOTE INDIVIDUALS. HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT INDIAN TOWN MAKES COMMUNAL DECISIONS. THIS IS HOW IT WILL CONTINUE TO GO IF YOU CONTINUE TO NOT REPRESENT US.
AS A REMINDER, IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR. SO EXPECT CHANGE, CHANGE THE PEOPLE OR CHANGE THE PEOPLE.
THANK YOU. NICOLE KIRCHHOFF. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEN AND WOMEN. MY NAME IS DOCTOR NICOLE KIRCHHOFF. I LIVE AT 4270 SOUTHWEST COUNTRY PLACE OFF CITRUS IN PALM CITY FARMS. I'M HERE TODAY. WHILE I DON'T LIVE IN INDIAN TOWN. I LIVE RIGHT ON YOUR BORDER. I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE SUPPORT THE PUD AMENDMENT FROM A, P AND L. THE. F, P AND L, AS WE KNOW, HAS BEEN A REALLY GOOD PARTNER TO THIS COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITY SURROUNDING US FOR MANY DECADES. THEY'VE INVESTED A LOT IN THIS TOWN AND THE SURROUNDING AREA INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE SCHOOLS, THE UTILITIES, THIS PUD, THE LAND THAT IS ON THIS PUD IS NOT ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LAND. IT HAS BEEN USED TO GROW CITRUS AND SUGAR CANE, BURNING IT, GROWING IT, HARVESTING IT FO&-PY ZONED INDUSTRIAL, AND THIS PUD WOULD SAVE IT FROM BECOMING A FAR MORE INTENSIVE USE. RIGHT NOW IT'S ZONED. IT COULD HAVE 20 HOMES PER ACRE ON ITS CURRENT ZONING, BUT THE PUD WOULD INSTEAD HAVE F, P, AND L VOLUNTARILY WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF TO ONLY DEVELOP 2% OF IT, NOT DEVELOPING ALL THE REST OF THAT LAND. I KNOW THAT THERE'S CONCERN THAT IT MIGHT BE A DATA CENTER THERE, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE PUD AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE VOTING ON TODAY IS NOT FOR THE DATA CENTER, IT'S FOR THE DEVELOPING OF LESS THAN 2% OF THAT MASSIVE PIECE OF PROPERTY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
BEN SWETLAND. BEN SWETLAND. JACQUELINE ROSS, WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE? OUTSIDE. THANK
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YOU. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MR. BEN SWETLAND FIRST AND THEN JACQUELINE ROSS. GO AHEAD. OKAY.WELL, I'M NOT HERE FOR A POLITICAL REASON. I'M HERE TO THANK TWO MEN AND TWO COMPANIES.
ONE OF THEM IS CARMEN. ONE OF THEM IS ERIC MILLER. AND THEY FACILITATED A VETERANS PROGRAM TO HELP A VETERAN WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND YOU AND I HAVE TALKED A COUPLE TIMES ABOUT IT, AND IT'S BEEN FACILITATED. AND NOEL OUT OF PAL PROGRAM IS A BIG PART OF IT. APPLIED FOR A GRANT AND WENDY AT A HOME DEPOT, AND WE SELECTED ONE VETERAN TO GET HELP IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT IS BILL AND CHAR RIGGS OVER HERE. THEY'RE BOTH IN THEIR 70S, AND BILL IS A 100% OXYGEN. HE IS SERVED FOUR YEARS IN THE MIDDLE OF 60S IN GERMANY. HIS WIFE IS A KIDNEY FAILURE.
SHE DOES AT HOME DIALYSIS ON HER KIDNEYS FOUR TIMES A WEEK. AND PAL AND HOME DEPOT HAVE TEAMED TOGETHER AND PROVIDE SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF STUFF TO THEM, WHICH IS GOING TO HAPPEN THE 28TH, 29TH AND 30TH OF MAY, THE WEEK OF MEMORIAL DAY IN HONOR OF THEM.
AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME OVER THERE, ESPECIALLY YOU, CARMEN, I'LL BE THERE. OKAY.
YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME OVER, AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE SEEING YOU THERE.
THEY'RE GOING TO PAINT THEIR HOUSE. THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOME YARD WORK. THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE EM A COUPLE NEW APPLIANCES. THEY'RE GOING TO SENIOR PROOF IT, PUT A COUPLE HAND BARS IN THEIR SHOWER AND A FEW OTHER THINGS IN THERE FOR THE VETERANS. AND WE'RE HOPING TO GROW THIS PROGRAM WITH THE HELP OF PAL AND HOME DEPOT AND CARMEN. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. AND THANK YOU, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN THE FUTURE. HAVE A GREAT DAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. JACQUELINE ROSS. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS JACQUELINE ROSS. I WAS RAISED HERE IN INDIANTOWN AND I'M CURRENTLY A STUDENT AT ERC WORKING TOWARDS BECOMING A NURSE. AFTER SPEAKING LAST WEEK, I'VE REALLY BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT AND IT ALL COMES DOWN TO HAVING OPPORTUNITIES HERE AT HOME. RIGHT NOW I HAVE TO LEAVE INDIANTOWN FOR A LOT OF EVERYDAY THINGS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THINKING ABOUT MY FUTURE. I WANT TO STAY CLOSE TO HOME, MY COMMUNITY, BUT THAT'S HARD TO PICTURE THAT RIGHT NOW WITH HAVING NO MEDICAL FACILITIES TO EMPLOY ME. I DON'T WANT TO MOVE AWAY JUST TO BUILD A CAREER. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO LIVE HERE, WORK HERE, AND GIVE BACK TO THE PLACE THAT HAS RAISED ME. THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT SMART GROWTH. IT'S ABOUT CREATING MORE OPPORTUNITIES WITHOUT LOSING WHAT MAKES INDIANTOWN SPECIAL AND GIVING PEOPLE LIKE ME A REASON TO SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU. BRANDON CECIL. HELLO. BRANDON. CECIL. I LIVE AT 14215 SOUTHWEST NEWTON ROAD. SORRY, IT'S A NEW ADDRESS. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. I AM A COMBAT VETERAN, A FATHER. I HAVE COLLEGIATE EDUCATION AND SIGNAL FREQUENCY FUNDAMENTALS AND WAVE THEORY. WHILE IN THE MILITARY, I WAS ONE OF 88 PERSONNEL IN THE WORLD TRAINED AT THE TIME AND COUNTER IMPROVISED EXPLOSIVE DEVICE DISMOUNTED TACTICS MASTER TRAINER WHICH DEALT WITH THE VARIOUS METHODS ENEMIES OF THIS COUNTRY USE TO REMOTELY DETONATE EXPLOSIVE DEVICES UTILIZING VARIOUS METHODS OF FREQUENCIES AND ENERGY. I HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED WITH COMPANIES SUCH AS SASSY WIRELESS, NOKIA AND MEARS GROUP FOR THE PURPOSES OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS, CONSTRUCTION, INSTALLATION, TROUBLESHOOTING AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND SAFETY.
I'VE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SAFETY OF EMPLOYEES IN MY CHARGE IN MANY CAPACITIES AS NO SITE IS THE SAME. DID YOU KNOW THAT DATA CENTERS EMIT FREQUENCIES IN THE 100 TO 740HZ RANGE? DID YOU KNOW THAT THESE FREQUENCIES DON'T HAVE MUCH IN THE WAY OF REGULATION FOR MAXIMUM PERMISSIBLE EXPOSURE, BECAUSE THEY FALL BELOW THE RADIO FREQUENCY RANGE? DID YOU KNOW THAT EXPOSURES TO THESE FREQUENCIES HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED TO HAVE ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS LINKED TO THE EXACERBATING OR CAUSING CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE, MIGRAINES, BLURRED VISION, BRAIN FOG, AND EMOTIONAL DYSREGULATION, JUST TO NAME A FEW. THIS IS FOR PERIODS OF TIME, NOT CONSTANT EXPOSURE, WHICH IS WHAT THE DATA CENTER WOULD DO OR A DATA CENTER WOULD DO. THE GOAL SHOULD ALWAYS BE TO LIMIT EXPOSURE. THERE ARE A WHOLE HOST OF EQUIPMENT, CLOTHING, TOOLS AND ADMINISTRATIVE CONTROLS TO LIMIT EXPOSURE TO ANYONE GOING ABOVE THESE THRESHOLDS, AS IT CAN HARM AND KILL GENERAL PUBLIC MEMBERS, AS WELL AS WORKERS TRAINED TO EVEN BE IN THOSE AREAS. AS THE LEVELS EXCEED WHAT THE PUBLIC CAN BE EXPOSED TO. HAS ANYONE EVER SEEN OR BEEN NEAR A CELLULAR TOWER SITE? DO YOU NOTICE THE BLUE SIGN THAT RESEMBLES A WI-FI SIGN ON THE OUTSIDE OF IT OR ON THE FENCE? THIS IS THE BARRIER TO THE PUBLIC IS THESE LEVELS ARE HIGHER THAN WHAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC CAN BE EXPOSED TO AS THE CROW FLIES, OR A STRAIGHT LINE DISTANCE. I LIVE SEVEN MILES FROM THE TRAIN TRACKS. I CAN CLEARLY HEAR THE TRAIN HORN, WHICH HAS A NOISE LEVEL OF 96 TO 110DB. THANKS TO FEDERAL REGULATIONS, THE SAME NOISE LEVEL THAT WOULD BE EMITTED BY THE DATA CENTER, WHICH CAN BE CLEARLY HEARD INSIDE MY HOME. CONSTANT NOISE AT THAT LEVEL WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO MY WELL-BEING AND THAT OF MY FAMILY, AND I
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CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT LIFE WOULD BE LIKE FOR THOSE WHO LIVE CLOSER TO THE PROPOSED DATA CENTER AREAS. IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, FAMILIES HAVE BEEN FORCED TO LIVE AND SLEEP IN THEIR BASEMENTS DUE TO THE CONSTANT NOISE LEVEL. I HAD TO ASK MYSELF, WHY WOULD THIS BE HAPPENING? I HAVE DUG INTO QUITE A FEW THINGS AND I'M NOT QUITE DONE. MAYBE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF THINGS. LOOK NO FURTHER THAN THE GEORGIA POWER AND THE DATA CENTER CONSTRUCTED THERE, AND HOW THE RESIDENTS THERE HAVE HAD TO ENDURE SIX ELECTRIC BILL HIKES IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, DESPITE THE PROMISES THAT THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN, THIS HAS EFFECTIVELY DISABLED THEIR ELECTRIC OR DOUBLED THEIR ELECTRIC BILLS IN RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. THE DATA CENTER RECEIVES TAX BREAKS AND DISMOUNT OF POWER, WHILE THE RESIDENTS ARE LEFT PAYING PREMIUM DOLLAR FOR THEIR ELECTRIC BILLS, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE FINANCIALLY STRETCHED THIN AS IT IS, WHOLE FAMILIES ARE FORCED TO LIVE IN ONLY 1 OR 2 ROOMS OF THEIR ENTIRE HOME. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE HUD STATES THAT INDIAN TOWN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SUPPLYING THE WATER? DID YOU KNOW THAT DATA CENTERS ACTUALLY REQUIRE DRINKING WATER? DID YOU KNOW THAT IN OTHER PARTS? DARN IT, YOU ARE GUILTY. TRY TO GET THROUGH IT. THANK YOU. MAYOR COUNCIL, IF I MAY, BEFORE I CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER, I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE TO PARTICIPANTS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS DURING THIS TIME. THIS IS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, NOT FOR ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA. IF YOU HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THE PUD DURING THIS PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION, YOU WILL NOT HAVE THE CHANCE TO SPEAK DURING THE ITEM. OKAY. BRANDON. TUCKER. GOTTA SQUEEZE IN HERE. MR. MAYOR.GOOD EVENING SIR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND STAFF. MY NAME IS BRANDON TUCKER. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE FLORIDA LANDOWNERS ASSOCIATION. I LIVE AT SIX, SIX, NINE NORTHEAST PLANTATION ROAD HERE IN STUART MARTIN COUNTY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO BE INVOLVED IN MOST OF MY ADULT LIFE IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I SERVED AS THE YOUNGEST BOARD CHAIR OF THE ECONOMIC COUNCIL IN OKEECHOBEE COUNTY, AND I WAS ABOUT 28 YEARS OLD. THAT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO, IF YOU BELIEVE THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S CRITICAL IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU HAVE GOOD HOUSING STOCK IN THE TERRA LARGO DEVELOPMENT HAS TAKEN CARE OF THAT. HERE IN INDIANTOWN. YOU NEED TO HAVE SHOVEL READY, NOT JUST LAND THAT'S ON A FUTURE LAND USE MAP OR A COMP PLAN MAP THAT SAYS INDUSTRIAL. BUT YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF STEPS TO GET IT TO WHERE IT'S SHOVEL READY.
AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE LATER DURING THE ITEM. BUT YOU ALSO NEED GOOD EDUCATION. AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT TONIGHT THAT WE HONORED THE GREAT TEACHERS HERE IN INDIANTOWN, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD EDUCATION SYSTEM AS PART OF THOSE WHEELS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. BUT IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU CONTINUE IN A PROCESS THAT THIS COUNCIL DOES ALL THE TIME AND THAT YOU'LL BE DOING TONIGHT TO SEE LAND THAT'S ON A COMP PLAN, POSSIBLY BE MOVING ON THROUGH ZONING. AND THEN IT HAS TO CONTINUE ON THROUGH MANY OTHER PHASES. BUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT HERE IN INDIANTOWN AND COMMUNITIES LIKE IT. AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO ALWAYS BE LOOKING OUT FOR WHAT'S BEST FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN INDIANTOWN. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. PENNY KAMINSKY.
SHE'S COMING OVER FROM THE OTHER ROOM.
I JUST WANT TO. I JUST HAVE ONE THING TO SAY. I HOPE YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU DID LAST WEEK WITH YOUR FIVE ZERO VOTE. YOU'VE PLACED THIS VILLAGE GOVERNMENT IN QUITE A PICKLE. TONIGHT'S YOUR LAST CHANCE TO LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS AND NOT THE CORPORATE GREED GOING ON. TRYING TO MAKE INDIAN TOWNS SUBMIT TO THEIR WISHES. I PRAY FOR US ALL. I PRAY FOR YOU. AND I PRAY YOU DON'T RUIN INDIAN TOWN FOREVER FROM THIS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
BONNIE. SHELDON. HI, FOLKS, I'M BONNIE SHELDON. I'VE LIVED IN INDIAN TOWN FOR NINE YEARS AND 20 YEARS BEFORE THAT IN THIS AREA. AND IN TERMS OF THESE GENERAL REMARKS, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU. I'M NOT AGAINST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, DESPITE WHAT YOU MIGHT THINK ON PREVIOUS REMARKS, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE WAY WE ARE DEVELOPING. AND IN THESE REMARKS, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC ON 710 AND HOW WE ARE CONTINUING TO APPROVE BOTH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WITHOUT ACKNOWLEDGING THE FACT THAT ALREADY 710 IS A HAZARD. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU A STORY. THAT'S TRUE. LAST WEEK, I WAITED 23 MINUTES TO TURN ON TO 710 WITH A LINE OF 31 CARS, ALL OF THEM HONKING AS EACH CAR CREPT ACROSS IN TERROR. AS THE 2:00 IN THE AFTERNOON. TRUCKS ARE RACING BACK AND FORTH, AND
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IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR A CAR TO GET ACROSS NOW BEFORE WE HAVE ALL OF THE PEOPLE LIVING IN TERROR. LARGO. NOW, I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER EXITS, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR AREA HERE. AND AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT OUR FIRE SAFETY. IF WE HAVE THAT KIND OF TRAFFIC, THERE'S AN ACCIDENT. HOW CAN AN EMT OR A FIRE TRUCK GET THROUGH? I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE TAKING A REALISTIC LOOK AT THIS TRAFFIC.THREE YEARS AGO, I BROUGHT THIS TRAFFIC UP WHEN WE WERE CONSIDERING PUTTING A 16 A PUMP GAS STATION ACROSS FROM INDIAN WOOD. AND AT THAT TIME, I TALKED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, AND THEY SAID, THEN THE TRAFFIC IS OVER, TRAVELED, THE ROAD IS OVER TRAVELED. SO AS WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH OF COURSE WE DO NEED IN MANY WAYS, WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE SAFETY OF THAT STREET AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WILL BE ADDED ON TO DURING CONSTRUCTION, THE BLOCKED ROADS. IT'S A VERY REAL DANGER. WHEN I LAST BROUGHT THIS UP, I SAID, WE'RE LOOKING AT A PERFECT STORM OF TRAFFIC. AND I WAS TOLD WE HAVE MANY PERFECT STORMS IN INDIAN TOWN. I THINK IT IS TIME FOR US TO LOOK AT THAT PARTICULAR STORM VERY CAREFULLY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTS. THANK YOU. SALLY SCHNEIDER SCHEIBNER. THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS. MY NAME IS SALLY SCHEIBNER AND I LIVE IN THE UNINCORPORATED SPRING HAVEN ESTATES. FOR 29 YEARS I WAS A SPECIAL NEEDS TEACHER AT WILLOUGHBY SPECIAL LEARNING CENTER FOR 19 YEARS AND HAVE MET MANY OF THE INDIAN TOWN PARENTS AND THE KIDS. AND I STILL SEE MY KIDS AND THEY'RE GROWN UP NOW. I'VE SHOPPED AT RHINES FOR 29 YEARS AND ALL THE LOCAL SHOPS AND SERVICES, AND THE DRIVE HOME FROM STUART WAS EASY AND BEAUTIFUL. AFTER PASSING UNDER I-95, IT WAS SO RELAXING. ALL THE INDIAN TOWN CITIZENS ARE STILL AS FRIENDLY AND SMILING AT ME AS USUAL.
I'VE ASKED FOLKS HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT SEVERE CHANGES WITH THESE MEGA GROWTH INDUSTRIES. THEY'RE NO FANS OF ANY OF THIS. I'M SPEAKING NOW AT THIS TIME, ALL OF MARTIN COUNTY AND BEYOND UNDER ARE UNDER SEVERE DROUGHT CONDITIONS AND HAVE BEEN SINCE 2021. THIS JANUARY THROUGH MARCH HAS BEEN RANKED THE 38TH DRIEST STATE IN THE PAST 132 YEARS IN AMERICA, EXACERBATING WATER SHORTAGES. WE'RE BELOW LEVEL IN MOISTURE. WE'RE CREATING FIRES, AND THE MUCK FIRES DOWN IN THE GLADES CONTINUE TO TO JUST GROW BIGGER. THE BROADER SOUTHEAST SECTION OF THE UNITED STATES IS EXPERIENCING THE MOST WIDESPREAD DROUGHT SINCE 2001.
OTHER THAN THAT, HOW CAN ANY OTHER ANY OF THE DATA CENTER WATER USAGE JUSTIFY THE DEMANDS ON OUR WATER, WHETHER IT'S FROM THE AQUIFER OR SURFACE SOURCES WHICH ARE NOT THERE RIGHT NOW? IN FACT, NORTHERN FLORIDA SPRINGS ARE DRYING OR SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED FLOW.
SUWANNEE RIVER IS SO LOW IT HAS BEEN DEEMED ENDANGERED. ACCORDING TO SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, MARTIN AND OKEECHOBEE, GROUNDWATER COMES FROM SHALLOW SURFACE AQUIFERS. NORTH FLORIDA AQUIFER WATER IS GOOD TO THE NORTH OF POLK AND BREVARD, BUT POOR WITH SALINE CONDITIONS TO THE SOUTH. AND THAT'S US. MARTIN DEPENDS ON RAINFALL, FED SURFACE AND AQUIFERS FOR MUNICIPAL SUPPLIES AS WELL AS AGRICULTURE, WHICH IS THE SUGAR CANE, THE CORN, ETC. PRESENT INDUSTRY, CATTLE AND RANCH BUSINESSES. SO WATER IS BEING USED ALL THROUGHOUT THAT. ANY HEAVY USE OF WATER IN NEW INDUSTRY WILL SAP AND DEPLETE OUR DRINKING WATER, CREATING MORE CONTAMINANTS FROM CONCENTRATION OF SMALLER WATER WATER VOLUMES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ERIC MILLER. FOR CLARIFICATION. IF I SPEAK ABOUT DANGERS OF DATA CENTERS, AM I SPEAKING TO THE PUD? MR. VOSS, SINCE THERE IS NO DATA CENTER THAT'S COMING FORWARD, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING GENERALLY. GENERALLY. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I REALLY ADDRESS MY CONCERNS WITH THE P D LATER. LARONDA. THANK YOU. THE CARDS ARE WONDERFUL. WE HAD AN INCIDENT LAST MEETING WHERE A PERSON I KNOW DIDN'T FILL OUT THE CARD, RIGHT. THEY WERE CONFUSED BY IT AND HE LEFT.
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HE DIDN'T SPEAK. HE WAS VERY UPSET ABOUT IT AND FELT LIKE HIS RIGHTS HAD BEEN HE JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T CHECK THE RIGHT BOX. BUT THANK YOU. THE CARDS ARE GOOD. CLARIFICATION IT'S A GOOD USE OF RESOURCE OF STAFF, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND.WE'VE NOTICED WITH THE LEVEL OF CONTRACTORS THAT YOU HAVE ON STAFF, THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE PEOPLE HAVE NO WAY OF DOING ANY KIND OF AUDIT OF THOSE OUTSIDE CORPORATIONS THAT THEY OWN. AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THERE'S ANY WRONGDOING THAT'S TAKING PLACE. IT'S TO SAY THAT IT'S AN INSURANCE POLICY FOR THE COUNCIL, THAT THERE IS NO WRONGDOING TAKING PLACE. IF YOU CAN HAVE A BLIND AUDIT THAT'S DONE BY AN OUTSIDE THIRD PARTY FIRM ON PEOPLE THAT ARE CONTRACTORS AND NOTHING IS DIVULGED TO YOU OR TO THE VILLAGE UNLESS A RED FLAG IS FOUND. I DON'T SEE WHERE THAT'S AN INADEQUATE REQUEST TO BE MADE OF A STAFFER, THAT YOU'RE PAYING 150 PLUS DOLLARS AN HOUR, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. THAT DETERMINES THE OUTCOME OF THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR. I THINK IT'S IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT POTENTIAL OF INFLUENCE HAS BEEN REMOVED. THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER THINGS I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT. SOMEONE BROUGHT UP SOME OF THE HAZARDS OF THE DATA CENTERS, AND THE THING THAT KEEPS BOTHERING ME WITH THIS GUYS IS THAT SO FAR IN EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE SAID ABOUT THESE DATA CENTERS, WE'VE BEEN RIGHT. AND EVERYONE'S HAD TO ADMIT THAT WE'RE RIGHT. I KNOW IT'S NOT BEEN A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE, AND WE'VE HAD TO JUMP UP AND DOWN LIKE 300 POUND GORILLAS TO GET OUR POINT ACROSS. BUT THERE'S BEEN NO TRANSPARENCY. AND THAT'S THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. HAD THERE BEEN A TOWN HALL FROM THE BEGINNING TO AT LEAST LISTEN TO PEOPLE INSTEAD OF HIDING BEHIND NDAS ON TOPICS THAT ARE OUT THERE ABOUT DATA CENTERS AND SAYING THEY'RE NOT THERE WHEN WE HAVE PAPERS THAT DOES NOT CREATE TRUST, AND TRUST IS ESSENTIAL FOR RELATIONSHIPS. AND IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PEOPLE AND NEIGHBORS AROUND YOU, BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF FIRST SO THAT YOU CAN BE HONEST WITH OTHERS, AND THEN THE TRUST WILL BUILD FROM THERE. BUT WHEN WE, THE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS OTHER THAN THREE MINUTES AT A PODIUM TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING I COULD LECTURE ON NOW FOR THREE HOURS, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG, GUYS.
WE NEED TO SLOW THIS DOWN. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR FROM THE BEGINNING. PUT THE BRAKES ON THIS. YOU HAVE THE TOOLS. I KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE SAID AND I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT IT AGAIN. THE TOOLS ARE THERE FOR YOU. IF YOU CAN'T FIND THEM, THAT'S ON YOU. BUT YOU GOT A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE HERE. LOOK, YOU'RE AN OVERFLOW. THEY'RE OUTSIDE. LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE, PLEASE. SALLY KAMINSKY.
WELL. EXCUSE ME. WELL, HERE WE ARE. I'M COMING FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE THAT I CAN'T BELIEVE. I'M LOOKING AT A 5 TO 0 VOTE AFTER TALKING. TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. ALL WE. I MEAN, NOT EVEN ONE. MY GOD, NOT EVEN ONE. AGAIN, WHAT WE WERE SAYING IS THAT YOU GUYS WERE THE ONE WHO DREW THE LINE IN THE SAND. WE ASKED, COULD YOU PAUSE IT? NO, NO. LOOK IT. WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT I DON'T CARE. SHE HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE SCHOOL. SHE'S NOT EVEN HERE.
THIS IS IMPORTANT. I'M JUST SAYING. BUT I PROMISE YOU, IF I'VE HAD ANYTHING TO DO AND I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE, EVERY SINGLE ONE IS GOING TO BE VOTED OUT. YOU DON'T BELONG HERE. YOU DON'T CARE. AND I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE 12 YEARS. 12 AND I FOUND A HOME. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I FEEL STAFF HAS LEFT SOME OF YOU ASTRAY. THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TOLD YOU THEY'VE EITHER OMITTED.
OR WHATEVER. BUT YOU GUYS HAVE THE POWER TONIGHT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND SAY NO. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY AS A WHITE PERSON, LOOK AROUND, PLEASE, PLEASE. THAT, FOLKS, IS WHAT
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WHITE PRIVILEGE LOOKS LIKE. THANK YOU. HEY, SUE. GASPAR. HELLO. HELLO, EVERYBODY. HELLO, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND HELLO, EVERYBODY ELSE. MY NAME IS JESUS GASPAR, A LIFELONG RESIDENT, FAMILY MAN AND BUSINESSMAN. FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL THE TEACHERS AS I HAVE CHILDREN. TEACHERS ARE A HUGE BLESSING. IT TAKES A LOT TO BE A TEACHER. IT TAKES PATIENCE, A LOT OF PATIENCE. NOT EVERYONE CAN BECOME A TEACHER. I AM TRULY GRATEFUL.THANK YOU GUYS. TEACHERS RIGHT THERE. CAN WE GET AN APPLAUSE? I'D LIKE TO SAY INDIAN TOWN IS A BLUE COLLAR TOWN. MOST RESIDENTS HAVE NO TIME TO GO TO THESE MEETINGS, SO A GOOD AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TURN TO SOCIAL MEDIA FOR CURRENT EVENTS. I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE A POLL WAS TAKEN ON FACEBOOK AND THE QUESTION WAS TO INDIAN TOWN RESIDENTS, DO YOU WANT A DATA CENTER BEING BUILT IN INDIAN TOWN? THE RESULTS 98% OF INDIAN TOWN RESIDENTS SAID NO. SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, REMEMBER WHO YOU WORK FOR. I LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT RESIDENTS ARE APPLAUDING THE OPPOSITION OF THE DATA CENTERS, WHILE FPNL AND OTHER SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS KEEP SILENT. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE INDIAN TOWN RESIDENTS WHO SHOWED UP TODAY TO STAND UP FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL TOWN. I ALSO HEARD OKEECHOBEE AND SAINT LUCIE IS IN THE HOUSE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. LINDA BISCOE. SORRY. SHE'S COMING. OKAY. I GUESS MELISSA DELPRETE.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MELISSA DELPRETE AND I LIVE AT 210 NORTH LAKESIDE DRIVE IN LAKE WORTH BEACH, FLORIDA. I AM AN ARTIST AND EDUCATOR AND AN ASPIRING HOMESTEADER. I OWN 20 ACRES IN SAINT LUCIE COUNTY. I PURCHASED IN 2021, AND IN JUST A FEW SHORT YEARS, I HAVE WITNESSED AN ASTOUNDING AND DEVASTATING LOSS OF LAND TO DEVELOPMENT. WHAT WAS ONCE OPEN NATURAL SPACE IS RAPIDLY DISAPPEARING. DESPITE WHAT OTHERS SAY, THIS ECOSYSTEM IS FRAGILE AND IT CANNOT WITHSTAND THIS LEVEL OF DESTRUCTION. LAND IS BEING CLEARED AT AN ALARMING RATE, AND WITH IT, WILDLIFE IS BEING DISPLACED, HABITATS DESTROYED AND. AND THE NATURAL BALANCE OF FLORIDA IS BEING PUSHED TO THE BRINK. FOR ME, WHAT'S MOST DEVASTATING IS THE LOSS OF THE RANCHING AND HOMESTEADING CULTURE, WHICH IS BEING DISPLACED WITH EVERY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. FAMILIES LIVE HERE RELYING ON THE HEALTH OF THE LAND AND THE AQUIFER.
RIGHT NOW, THAT AQUIFER IS AT A RECORD LOW AT A TIME WHEN WATER RESOURCES ARE ALREADY STRAINED, WE SHOULD NOT BE ADDING MORE PRESSURE TO IT. WE SHOULD NOT BE PRIORITIZING DEVELOPMENTS THAT DEMAND MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF ENERGY AND WATER IN THE PEAK OF SUMMER. OUR PRIORITY SHOULD BE FAR MORE BASIC AND FAR MORE CRITICAL, ENSURING THAT RESIDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO CLEAN, RELIABLE DRINKING WATER AND OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS NEED TO BE WORKING TO PRESERVE THAT CULTURE AND RURAL INTEGRITY OF OUR COMMUNITIES. WE NEED TO BE INVESTING IN WHAT MAKES OUR WILD SPACES SO SPECIAL AND WORTH PROTECTING. GROWTH WITHOUT LIMITS IS NOT PROGRESS, IT'S GREED. THIS IS NOT SMART GROWTH. I AM ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER LONG TERM CONSEQUENCES OF THESE DECISIONS. PROTECT OUR LANDS, PROTECT OUR WATER. PROTECT THE PEOPLE WHO CALL THIS PLACE HOME. DO NOT PRIORITIZE UNSUSTAINABLE QUICK MONETARY GAINS OVER LONG, SUSTAINABLE SOLUTIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. LINDA BISCOE. GOOD EVENING.
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LINDA BISCOE FROM CLEMENTSVILLE MAYOR, COUNCIL COUNCILMEN, WOMEN AND RESIDENTS. I WANT TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT WHO IS RUNNING THE VILLAGE. LAST WEEK, YOU GUYS SIGNED A CONSENT AGENDA. CONSENT AGENDA IS WHEN THEY PUT STUFF IN THE AGENDA AND YOU JUST VOTE ON IT. AND IT'S NEVER TALKED ABOUT AT THE MEETING. YOU VOTED FOR KIMLEY-HORN FOR $23,000, 866, AND THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. BUT YOU APPROVED A LOBBYIST CALLED GALLOPAVO. TERAN SIGNED AN AGREEMENT WITH HER ON FOR TWO, BUT IT DIDN'T COME TO YOUR AGENDA UNTIL 423. THAT IS, FOR $5,000 A MONTH PLUS EXPENSES, A RETAINER. AND THAT IS CHLOE KILBINGER. I DON'T KNOW IF I SAID THAT RIGHT. WHO IS NOW THE ECONOMIC COUNCIL OF INDIAN TOWN? CEO? SHE'S A LOBBYIST. AND YOU HAVE A SECOND LOBBYIST, THE GRIFFIN GROUP. HOW MANY LOBBYISTS FOR 60 GRAND A YEAR DOES THE THE VILLAGE NEED? EVERYONE THAT I SPOKE TO LAST WEEK IN SUPPORT HAS TAUGHT.EVERYONE THAT SPOKE HERE IN SUPPORT LAST WEEK HAS TIES THAT WILL PROFIT FROM THE GROWTH, THE UNMEASURED GROWTH INFRASTRUCTURE. ROADS ARE IN DISREPAIR. WATER PIPES ARE BROKEN ALL OVER TOWN. TERRA LAGO HALTED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SUPPLY WATER, YET YOU KEEP APPROVING OTHER RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS. OH, I DIDN'T FINISH. SO IN ANY EVENT, WHAT I'M SAYING IS I THINK THE OVERGROWTH OF INDIAN TOWN IS GOING TOO FAST THAT MAYBE YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE INFORMATION YOU NEED OR THE TIME YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH IT.
YOU ALL TOLD US THAT YOU, ONCE YOU GOT THE INFORMATION THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION BEFORE, THAT ONCE YOU GOT IT, THAT YOU WOULD GO THROUGH IT ALL. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD.
IN ONE WEEK, THE PLANNING AND ZONING FINISHED. IT WAS 400 AND SOME ODD PAGES. YOU HAVE LIVES.
HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY GO THROUGH THAT? AND, AND, AND REALLY FIGURE IT OUT? WHAT'S GOOD, WHAT'S BAD? I KNOW YOUR STAFF SAID THAT IT'S GOOD, BUT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT SINCE LAST YEAR. AND THERE'S AND, AND I'M JUST SAYING, NOT JUST THIS, JUST EVERYTHING IN GENERAL. WHO'S RUNNING THE TOWN? IS IT YOU OR IS IT THE STAFF. THANK YOU, MISS CAROL MCALLISTER. GOOD EVENING. CAROL MCALLISTER, LIFELONG RESIDENT OF INDIAN TOWN. I AM HERE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN FOR THE LAND USE CHANGES IN THE OUTLYING AREAS OF INDIAN TOWN. INDIAN TOWN IS INCREASINGLY BEING SHAPED INTO AN INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR. AS I SHARED BEFORE, THE CHARTER FOR THE INCORPORATION WAS TO PRESERVE A RURAL, COUNTRY STYLE COMMUNITY.
BUT THAT VISION HAS BEEN THROWN TO THE WIND. THE INDIVIDUALS ADVOCATING AND CREATING THESE CHANGES DO NOT LIVE IN INDIAN TOWN. IT IS DEEPLY CONCERNING TO SEE DECISIONS BEING MADE WITHOUT SUFFICIENT CONSIDERATION FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO WILL BE MOST AFFECTED ONCE INDIAN TOWNS CHARACTER AND CULTURE ARE COMPROMISED, THEY CANNOT BE RESTORED. THIS HAS CREATED THE LAND USE CHANGE ALONG FARM ROAD, IN PARTICULAR, CREATE A VERY PRECARIOUS SITUATION, ONE THAT NEEDS CAREFUL CONSIDERATION FOR ALL RESIDENTS. THIS HAS CREATED AN INDUSTRIAL ENCLAVE ON MINE AND OTHER RURAL AG OWNERS WITH INDUSTRIAL USES FUNDAMENTALLY AND PERMANENTLY ALTERING THE RURAL CHARACTER OF OUR PROPERTY. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT FACT OF GREAT CONCERN TO ME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, KELSEY LEE. GOOD EVENING. WHILE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE INITIAL PROPOSAL FOR SILVER FOX 606 WILL NOT MOVE FORWARD AS A DATA CENTER AT THIS TIME, AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THAT. WE ARE HEARING THAT OTHER DATA CENTER PROPOSALS MAY BE COMING. SO WE WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR. THE MAJORITY OF INDIAN TOWN DOES NOT WANT DATA CENTERS. WE ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE SOMETHING IMPORTANT. INDIAN TOWN HAS ALWAYS HAD A STRONG INDUSTRIAL PRESENCE, AND THAT IN ITSELF IS NOT THE ISSUE. THE CONCERN IS SPECIFICALLY DATA CENTERS. AS A REGISTERED NURSE WHO HAS SPENT OVER FIVE YEARS WORKING IN THE
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EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT, I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE EFFECTS THAT ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS AND POLLUTION CAN HAVE ON PEOPLE'S HEALTH. THAT PERSPECTIVE IS NOT THEORETICAL. IT IS REAL AND IT IS A PART. IT IS A PART OF WHY THIS MATTERS SO DEEPLY. RESIDENTS HAVE CONSISTENTLY SHOWN UP, SPOKEN OUT AND MADE IT CLEAR THAT DATA CENTERS ARE NOT THE RIGHT FIT FOR THIS COMMUNITY. YET DESPITE THAT, MANY STILL FEEL UNHEARD. THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT ONE PROPOSAL.IT'S ABOUT THE DIRECTION OF INDIAN TOWN AND WHETHER THE VOICES OF ITS RESIDENTS ARE TRULY BEING REFLECTED IN THE DECISIONS BEING MADE. WE ARE ASKING THIS COUNCIL TO LISTEN, REALLY LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHEN IT COMES TO DATA CENTERS, NOT JUST DURING THIS THREE MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT IN THE ACTIONS THAT FOLLOW, BECAUSE THIS COMMUNITY HAS MADE ITS POSITION CLEAR AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO STAND FIRM AND PROTECTING THE FUTURE OF INDIAN TOWN. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ROSARIA MARTINEZ. CAN I GO LATER? GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. I'M ROSARIA, I'M HERE TODAY. OBVIOUS FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. BECAUSE OF RECENT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS LIKE THE DATA CENTER OR FPL USE OR NOT, WHATEVER IT IS, WE DON'T NEED IT. WE DON'T WANT IT. AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE BEING IGNORED. AND. WE'RE NOT BEING HEARD OUT. AND OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE AREN'T SAYING THIS FOR NO REASON. WE'RE SAYING IT FOR A REASON. AND KARMA IS REAL. LIKE, DOESN'T FPNL HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES? THEY HAVE ALL THE SOLAR PANELS. THEY HAVE THE FACTORIES ALREADY. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT? LIKE YOU'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE IT ALL ABOUT YOU. THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING. LIKE YOU COME OUT HERE OUT OF YOUR WAY TO INDIAN TOWN TO PROPOSE AND SHOW EVERYBODY THIS, BUT AT THE END OF IT, IT'S NOT FOR ANYBODY HERE. IT'S WE ARE ALREADY DOING FINE. THE LIGHTS ARE ON. EVERYTHING'S ALREADY WORKING. WHAT MORE IS THE STATUS THEN THEY'RE GOING TO DO? LIKE IT'S NOT FOR US AND IT'S DAMAGING OUR FUTURE AND DAMAGING THE AGRICULTURE OUT HERE AND WHERE THE ANIMALS LIVE.
THEY HAVE HEARTS AND MINDS TOO, AND THEIR HOMES ARE JUST BEING DESTROYED. INDIAN TOWN IS BEAUTIFUL AND YOU'RE DESTROYING THAT. WE DON'T NEED IT AND WE DON'T WANT IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE WE CAN SAY. LIKE IF INDIAN TOWN IS IS BEAUTIFUL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHY PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT HERE TO, TO DO THIS. LIKE I KNOW IT'S ABOUT LIKE MONEY, BUT THIS IS IMPACTING EVERYBODY AND THE LAND AND TRAFFIC. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE WE CAN DO, BUT IT'S JUST KIND OF SEEMS A LITTLE WEIRD HOW WE'RE BEING IGNORED. NOBODY CAN EVEN ASK QUESTIONS LIKE, WE APPRECIATE YOUR BUSINESS. I'M ROOTING FOR YOUR BUSINESS. AND, YOU KNOW, LOVE THAT FOR YOU GUYS. BUT THIS IS INDIAN TOWN. THIS IS NOT CHICAGO OR NEW YORK. VIRGINIA. WE'VE BEEN STANDING WITHOUT A DATA CENTER FOR THIS LONG. I THINK INDIAN TOWN CAN SURVIVE MUCH MORE WITHOUT IT.
INDIAN TOWN HAS HAD ENOUGH. AND LOOK AT IT. I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU GUYS THAT ARE TRYING TO PROPOSE THIS F P AND L HAVE GONE TO CIRCLE K, HAVE GONE TO THE PARK HERE TO THE LIBRARY TO SEE LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY DO LIVE HERE, LIKE WHEN THEY GROW UP, WHEN PEOPLE'S KIDS GROW UP, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO LOOK OUT WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING OUT OF TOWN TO SEE THIS BIG BUILDING, AND IT'S JUST GOING TO RUIN THE AIR AND GO TO THE CORNER STORES AROUND HERE. THOSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT A DATA CENTER HERE. LIKE, PLEASE JUST TAKE US INTO CONSIDERATION.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR BUSINESS, BUT I DON'T THINK INDIAN TOWN IS FIT FOR IT. LIKE, PLEASE.
THANK YOU. ALANA. ALANA. GAZAL. HELLO, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY. MY NAME IS ALANA GAZELLE. I'VE LIVED IN STUART MOST OF MY LIFE. I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF GOING TO SCHOOL HERE AND NOW. I AM A TEACHER OF MANY INDIAN TOWN STUDENTS AT SOUTH FORK HIGH SCHOOL. I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ALL OF THE DAMAGE THAT CAN BE DONE, THE LACK OF AWARENESS OF LONG TERM RAMIFICATIONS OF PUTTING THIS CENTER HERE. I WANT TO I WANT TO DIAL IT BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT. I WANT TO DIAL IT BACK TO WHY IS INDIAN TOWN BEING CHOSEN, INDIAN TOWNS BEING CHOSEN? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, FIVE SURROUNDING COUNTIES HAVE REFUSED OR PUT FAIL SAFES OR PUT STOP HOLDS OR PUT PAUSES ON MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT THIS. THOSE BY THE WAY, FOR THE RECORD, PALM BEACH COUNTY.
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SAINT LUCIE COUNTY, OKEECHOBEE COUNTY, AND POLK COUNTY. THAT MEANS INDIAN TOWN IS THE MOST CONVENIENT PLACE TO PUT IT, WHERE NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MAKE NOISE, AND I'M PRETTY SUREBUNKED NOW. SO HD THAT, I JUST BRINGING AWARENESS TO WHY THIS AREA IS BEING SINGLED OUT FOR THIS, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TRANSPARENCY.THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THAT TODAY WAS CANCELED BECAUSE OF THE MISREPRESENTATION GOING ON ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN PARTICULAR, WHICH IS WHERE A LOT OF US GET OUR INFORMATION THESE DAYS, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT LESS TO SIFT THROUGH. RIGHT. IT WAS MISREPRESENTED THAT THIS WAS, IN FACT, NOT COMING TO PASS ANYMORE. AND ONE OF THE OTHER CENTERS NAMES WAS PUT ON IT. I REALIZED THAT TODAY IS ABOUT TESORO, BUT IT WAS PRESENTED AS THOUGH SILVER FOX GOING DOWN MEANT THAT THIS CONVERSATION WAS NULL AND VOID IN THE WATER.
AND SO YOU NEED TO BE AWARE, BECAUSE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT NONE OF YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT. A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT TODAY WAS STILL COMING TO PASS, AND THE COMMENTS WERE STILL GOING TO BE WELCOMED. SO THERE'S A GAP IN THE COMMUNITY BEING A PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. THAT IS NOT MY ROLE, BUT I'D LIKE TO POINT IT OUT. FURTHERMORE, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THE LACK OF CARE AND CONSIDERATION WITH THE CHOOSING TO PUT THIS HERE, AND A LOT OF THAT KEEPS ROLLING BACK TO WHO STANDS TO GAIN. I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT INDIAN TOWN DOES NOT STAND TO GAIN.
MARTIN COUNTY IN GENERAL DOES NOT STAND TO GAIN. THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE WE STAND TO LOSE WITH A GAMBLE THAT WE AREN'T EXACTLY SEEING AN ROI FOR. AND I'M IN THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY.
SO JUST TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR, I HAVE PEOPLE ASKING ME HOW CLOSE THEIR HOME THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN IS NOW GOING TO BE CLOSE TO A DATA CENTER. I'M NOT EXCITED ABOUT THAT CONVERSATION. I'M NOT EXCITED ABOUT THE RIPPLE EFFECTS AND THE RAMIFICATIONS FOR OUR HOUSING MARKET, WHICH IS A VERY REAL SCENARIO AS I SERVE BOTH MARTIN AND SAINT LUCIE COUNTY PRIMARILY. THESE ARE ALL THINGS I JUST WANT TO BRING TO EVERYONE'S AWARENESS, BECAUSE THESE RIPPLE EFFECTS ARE GOING TO IMPACT THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE HERE, RATHER THAN NECESSARILY THE PEOPLE WHO SEE A FINANCIALLY SOUND INVESTMENT. AND THAT'S A HUGE DIVIDE. OUR PRIORITIES ARE LIVABILITY, AND IF OUR ANIMALS AREN'T HERE AND OUR PEOPLE CAN'T BE HERE, AND A DATA CENTER IS NOT ADDING MORE JOBS, BUT IT'S EATING UP A WHOLE LOT OF LAND AND A WHOLE LOT OF RESOURCES, AND IT'S POTENTIALLY POISONING OUR GROUNDWATER AND OUR WELL WATER UNDERNEATH. IT'S A BIG PROBLEM. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JAMES NIBBLING. THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. MY NAME IS JAMES NIEBLING. I'M A THREE ZERO LAW STUDENT AT NOVA SOUTHEASTERN UNIVERSITY. I SPENT MY LAST THREE YEARS OF LAW SCHOOL DRIVING ALL THE WAY UP FROM FORT LAUDERDALE TO COME TO MARTIN COUNTY TO GO SURF. AND STEWART, IN CONSIDERING ALL OF THIS, I WANT YOU GUYS TO REALIZE JUST HOW IMPORTANT MARTIN COUNTY IS. I'M FROM NEW JERSEY AND COMING FROM NEW JERSEY, GOING TO SOUTH FLORIDA, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS ARE DIFFERENT. AND THEN GOING FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY TO MARTIN COUNTY, YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND JUST HOW SPECIAL OF A PLACE THIS IS. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FROM FIU, THEY'RE OFTEN NOT FROM HERE. AND WHEN I OVER THE YEARS OF SURFING HERE, I REALLY UNDERSTOOD THE COMMUNITY AND JUST HOW IMPORTANT THESE RESOURCES, THE WILDLIFE AND EVERYTHING HERE MATTERS. YOU KNOW, INDIANTOWN, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TOO FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT IT'S A PIVOTAL POINT IN MARTIN MARTIN COUNTY, THE OKEECHOBEE AND THE CANALS AND ALL THE WATER FLOWS FROM OKEECHOBEE THROUGH INDIANTOWN TO STUART AND THE INLET. AND PRETTY MUCH WE GUYS JUST DON'T HAVE TO CONSIDER THE FATE OF INDIAN TOWN TODAY. IT'S THE FATE OF MARTIN COUNTY, THE EVERGLADES AND OLD FLORIDA, BECAUSE MARTIN COUNTY IS ONE OF THE LAST TRUE PLACES TO REALLY ENCOMPASS WHAT FLORIDA WAS BEFORE LAND DEVELOPMENT, CORPORATE GREED, SHAREHOLDERS, AND THE LACK OF OUR COMMUNITY STANDING UP FOR WHAT'S RIGHT CAUSED THE DEPRIVATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING TODAY. ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO EVALUATE ALL OF THESE DECISIONS, NOT JUST IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF TODAY, BECAUSE I THINK A MAIN POINT THAT'S OFTEN OVERLOOKED IS THE NAME, IMAGE AND LIKENESS. AND THE FUTURE IDENTITY OF INDIANTOWN IS SOMETHING THAT THE ECONOMIC INTEREST AND THE FIDUCIARY DUTY OF THE BOARD SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER. BECAUSE IF YOU EVALUATE THE CONDITIONS OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES RIGHT NOW, IT MAY LOOK LIKE A GOOD IDEA ECONOMIC INTEREST, SOME BENEFITS. BUT DOWN THE ROAD, IF YOU ACTUALLY SELL OUT THE ROOTS IN THE IDENTITY THAT MADE INDIANTOWN INDIANTOWN, WHEN PEOPLE SEE A DATA CENTER, THEY'RE NOT THE TOURISM WANTS NOT TO WANT TO GO HERE. THE BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO MOVE AWAY. THE RESIDENTS AREN'T GOING TO WANT TO LIVE HERE, AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE LEFT WITH INDUSTRIAL COMPLEXES LIKE MY HOMETOWN IN NEW JERSEY.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, HANNAH GREENLEE. HI, EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY. I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS. I
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HAVE A HARD TIME TALKING IN FRONT OF PEOPLE. MY NAME IS HANNAH GREENLEE. MY FAMILY CAME HERE IN THE LATE 1800S TO FARM CELERY. SUFFICE TO SAY, THE FLORIDA OF MY ANCESTORS IS LONG GONE. I'LL BE BLUNT. WHAT'S HAPPENING TO FLORIDA TODAY IS NOTHING SHORT OF LEGALIZED RAPE, RAPE OF OUR LAND, RAPE OF OUR HISTORY, RAPE OF OUR CULTURE, RAPE OF OUR RIGHT TO SUSTAIN OURSELVES. IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A CAR WASH OR DATA CENTER ON EVERY AVAILABLE SPACE, AT LEAST HAVE THE COURAGE TO CALL IT WHAT IT IS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. MAYOR. THAT'S IT. OKAY. MOVING ON. WE HAVE ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS. NO. COMMENTS BY VILLAGE MANAGER.[COMMENTS BY VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS]
COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'VE GOT COMMENTS, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE LONG. SO YOU GUYS GO AHEAD.CAN WE REMEMBER TO. NO COMMENT. CAN CAN YOU ALL SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE? THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IF ANY OF THE REST OF YOU HAVE A COMMENT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO IT BEFORE I START MY.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A COMMENT? I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING AND VOICING YOUR OPINION AND YOUR HEART. I APPRECIATE IT AND IT'S NOT AS THOUGH I AM NOT LISTENING. I HEAR YOU, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS, NOT EVEN. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE HAVE TO CONSIDER AS WELL. BUT I, I THANK YOU FOR COMING. GOOD EVENING, GOOD EVENING, GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU AGAIN. JUST AS COUNCIL WOMAN BROWN SAID, WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING TONIGHT.
AND OF COURSE, WE HEAR YOU. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU. OKAY. ANGELINA. COUNCILWOMAN PEREZ. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT. SORRY I COULDN'T BE IN THE AUDIENCE AS WE PLANNED THIS TRIP A YEAR AGO. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR AMAZING TEACHERS AND STAFF OF INDIANTOWN. I KNOW THEY MAKE THE DRIVE OUT HERE EVERY DAY TO TEACH OUR KIDDOS. THANK YOU.
OKAY. GO AHEAD COUNCILWOMAN. OKAY. I'M CERTAINLY GLAD THAT ALL OF MY COHORT HERE HAVE WELCOMED YOU, AND I WELCOME YOU AS WELL. NOW, I'M GOING TO GET DOWN TO SOME HARD QUESTIONS.
KAREN, CAN I ASK YOU TO PLEASE GET VERY CLOSE TO THAT MIC SO WE MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE RECORD. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THAT BETTER? I HAVE QUESTIONS QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS.
ARE YOU READY, MR. VOSS, THE COUNCIL MEMBER, IF THIS IS ABOUT THE THE MAIN ITEM THAT IS ON THE AGENDA, MY MY ADVICE TO YOU WOULD BE TO WAIT TO THAT ITEM. SO WE KEEP EVERYTHING RIGHT IN THAT QUASI JUDICIAL. ABSOLUTELY. LET'S DO THAT. OKAY. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. OKAY.
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WE'LL GO TO APPROVAL OF AGENDA A MOTION MOVE TO ACCEPT MOTION. SECOND. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE AYE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE SECOND[ORDINANCE NO. 03-2026 - AN ORDINANCE OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE VILLAGE ZONING MAP TO REZONE CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY TOTALING 5,722.30 +/- ACRES IN SIZE, LOCATED NORTH AND SOUTH OF SW KANNER HIGHWAY AND WEST OF SW WARFIELD BLVD, TO THE VILLAGE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (PUD) ZONING DISTRICT DESIGNATION; APPROVING THE "TESORO GROVES PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING AGREEMENT" AND INCORPORATED MASTER SITE PLAN; AND PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS, SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS, CODIFICATION, AND ANEFFECTIVE DATE. APPLICATION NO: SP-26-005 AND RZ-26-002]
READING OF ORDINANCE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MAYOR, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING.THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 03-2026, AN ORDINANCE OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE VILLAGE ZONING MAP TO REZONE CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY TOTALING 5,722.30 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES IN SIZE, LOCATED NORTH AND SOUTH OF SOUTHWEST KANNER HIGHWAY AND WEST OF SOUTHWEST WARFIELD BOULEVARD TO THE VILLAGE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD ZONING DISTRICT DESIGNATION. APPROVING THE TESORO GROVE'S PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING AGREEMENT AND INCORPORATED MASTER SITE PLAN AND PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS, SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS, CODIFICATION, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AS ANYBODY, ANYONE WHO'S BEEN AT THESE LAST COUPLE MEETINGS KNOWS, NOW IS THE TIME I GO THROUGH A LITTLE SPEECH ABOUT QUASI JUDICIAL HEARINGS, ASK SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE RECORD, AND INVITE FOLKS TO BE SWORN BY THE CLERK. BEFORE I DID THAT, I DID WANT TO CLARIFY ONE LITTLE THING, BECAUSE I HAVE I'VE HAD A QUESTION COME UP ABOUT MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC BEING SWORN. SO THE VILLAGE HAS ALWAYS INVITED MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO BE SWORN, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE SPEAKING IN A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. THIS HAS BEEN DONE AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, SO THAT THE COMMENTS THAT THEY OFFER CAN BE GIVEN AS MUCH WEIGHT AS WOULD BE APPLICABLE UNDER THE RELEVANT LAW. BUT I DO WANT TO CLARIFY, IF A MEMBER OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC DOES NOT WANT TO BE SWORN BEFORE SPEAKING, THEY DO NOT HAVE TO.
HOWEVER, PARTIES TO THIS HEARING, THAT IS, THE VILLAGE AND THE APPLICANT AND THEIR
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WITNESSES DO HAVE TO BE SWORN. SO WITH THAT CLARIFICATION AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ASK IF ANY INDIVIDUAL, INCLUDING THE APPLICANT STAFF AND THEIR WITNESSES FOR THE APPLICANT AND THE VILLAGE OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IF THEY WOULD LIKE, WHO PLAN TO SPEAK OR OFFER TESTIMONY DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING, I WOULD ASK YOU TO NOW PLEASE RISE AND BE SWORN BY THE VILLAGE CLERK. HI. I'M BACK HERE. SORRY. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE? IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO THANK YOU. THE APPLICATION THAT IS BEFORE THE COUNCIL TONIGHT IS QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE, WHICH REQUIRES THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO COMPLY WITH PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED, ESTABLISHED IN FLORIDA LAW, QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS ARE LESS FORMAL THAN PROCEEDINGS BEFORE A CIRCUIT COURT, BUT ARE MORE FORMAL THAN NORMAL VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING AND MUST FOLLOW BASIC STANDARDS OF NOTICE AND DUE PROCESS. THE BOARD'S DECISION MUST BE MADE BASED ON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. PLEASE NOTE THAT ONLY COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL, FACT BASED TESTIMONY OR EVIDENCE WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE COUNCIL IN ITS DELIBERATION AND VOTING ON THIS ITEM. PURE SPECULATION OR MERE OPINION, NOT BASED ON COMPETENT FACTS. CAN IT BE LEGALLY CONSIDERED BY THE COUNCIL IN WEIGHING THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE APPLICATION THAT'S BEFORE THEM TONIGHT, TESTIMONY WITH FACT BASED SUPPORT SUCH AS MINUTES, SURVEYS, ENGINEERING REPORTS AND THE LIKE MAY BE CONSIDERED COMPETENT. SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. IF YOU INTEND TO SPEAK, PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND. WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS CLEARLY. FOR THE RECORD, WE WOULD ALSO, AS YOU'VE HEARD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, WE WOULD ALSO ASK THAT YOU PLEASE SUBMIT A SPEAKER CARD TO INCLUDE. FOR THE RECORD, MADAM CLERK, HAS THIS ITEM BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED? THE ITEM HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED AND THE BACKUP OF THE ADVERTISEMENT IS, WAS AND IS IN THE AGENDA ITEM PUBLISHED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WOULD ASK IF ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST UNDER APPLICABLE FLORIDA LAW THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THEM FROM VOTING ON THIS ITEM. I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE DISCLOSE THAT CONFLICT FOR THE RECORD, COMPLETE THE REQUIRED VOTING CONFLICT FORM AND PROVIDE IT TO THE VILLAGE CLERK. DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL HAVE A VOTING CONFLICT TO DECLARE? NO, I DO NOT. ALL RIGHT, I KNOW, I BELIEVE I'VE HEARD NO FROM ALL FIVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE HAD ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS AND THAT IS COMMUNICATIONS OF A SUBSTANTIAL NATURE WITH ANYONE OUTSIDE OF ANY OF THESE HEARINGS CONCERNING THIS MATTER RELATING TO THE APPLICATION THAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE DISCLOSE THAT BY IDENTIFYING THE SUBJECT OF THE COMMUNICATION, THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE, OR THE SUBSTANCE OF ANY CORRESPONDENCE YOU RECEIVED. YOU ALL MADE EX PARTE DISCLOSURES AT THE LAST HEARING. FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, I WOULD ASK IF, IF COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD PLEASE GO AHEAD AND AND RESTATE GENERALLY THE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS YOU HAVE AND COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER, IF WE COULD START WITH YOU. OKAY. YES. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY CONCERNING THE ISSUE. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY COMMUNICATIONS JUST TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD, WERE THERE ANY COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT OR REPRESENTATIVES OF THE APPLICANT? I'M SORRY. SAY IT AGAIN. I'M SO SORRY. THE APPLICANT, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE APPLICANT, REPRESENTATIVES OF FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT HAVE HAD ANY ANY COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM? NO, I LAST TIME, NOT THIS WEEK AND NO. AND AND I'M TO BE VERY CLEAR FOR ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN GENERAL SENSE SINCE THIS APPLICATION PROCESS STARTED. YES, YES, YES, YES. OKAY. COULD YOU SHARE WHO THAT WHO THAT WAS WITH? I'M SORRY TO GO A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH. I'M JUST MAKING SURE THE RECORD IS REALLY GOOD FOR THIS. I DID SPEAK TO FPNL. I DID TALK WITH WATER MANAGEMENT. I DID HAVE CONVERSATION WITH ENGINEER OF OF A DATA CENTER. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER. I HAVE MET AND SPOKEN WITH SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR AND ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS, AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM FPL THAT ARE PRESENT IN THIS ROOM. I'LL GO ON ZOOM NOW, REAL QUICK, AND THEN WE'LL FINISH UP THE DAIS. COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ, DO YOU COULD YOU PROVIDE ANY EX PARTE DISCLOSURES YOU MAY HAVE? YES, WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE, WITH[01:05:03]
FPL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VICE MAYOR WATERS BROWN, REPRESENTATIVE FROM FLORIDA POWER. A ENGINEER FOR A DATA CENTER AND A QUITE A FEW COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, MAYOR, I'VE SPOKEN TO OUR VILLAGE MANAGER. I'VE SPOKEN TO OUR DANNA FREEDMAN ABOUT IT, AND I'VE SPOKEN TO MARSHALL BIRCHFIELD FROM FPL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. BEFORE I ADDRESS ONE OTHER THING AND TURN IT OVER TO DEENA, I HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD FOR FOR THIS ITEM, AND I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ THE QUESTION I'M GOING TO ASK EACH COUNCIL MEMBER TO JUST STATE THEIR ANSWER, YES OR NO.WITH REGARD TO THIS QUESTION. AND COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER, WE'LL START WITH YOU. YOU DO YOU AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL BASE YOUR DECISION SOLELY ON THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY PRESENTED AT THE HEARINGS AND IN THE RECORD ON THIS MATTER AND ON THE APPLICABLE LAW? YES.
ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER SAWYER, DO YOU AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL BASE YOUR DECISION SOLELY ON THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY PRESENTED AT THE HEARINGS AND IN THE RECORD ON THIS MATTER AND ON THE APPLICABLE LAW? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ, DO YOU AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL BASE YOUR DECISION SOLELY ON THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY PRESENTED AT THE HEARINGS AND IN THE RECORD ON THIS MATTER AND ON THE APPLICABLE LAW? YES. THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR, DO YOU AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL BASE YOUR DECISION SOLELY ON THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY PRESENTED AT THE HEARINGS AND IN THE RECORD IN THIS MATTER AND ON THE APPLICABLE LAW? I WILL. AND, MAYOR, DO YOU AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL BASE YOUR DECISION SOLELY ON THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY PRESENTED AT THE HEARINGS AND IN THE RECORD IN THIS MANNER AND ON THE APPLICABLE LAW? YES.
I APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE FOR THE REPETITION THERE. ONE LAST THING BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO DEENA, AND MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE. THAT IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION CONCERNING THIS, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND LET STAFF PUT ON THEIR PRESENTATION, LET THE APPLICANT PUT ON THEIR PRESENTATION. AND WHEN COUNCIL WANTS TO JUMP IN ON THINGS, WE CAN GET INTO THE PARTICULARS OF ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING TO DO. BUT I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE ONE BIT OF CLARIFICATION CONCERNING SOMETHING, AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH SOME OF YOU ABOUT THIS COUNCIL MEMBERS. AS YOU KNOW, I TRY TO DO MY BEST TO BE CONSTANTLY HUSTLING IN THE BACKGROUND, WORKING ON VARIOUS MATTERS, TO TRY TO PROVIDE THE VILLAGE WITH BETTER AND MORE ROBUST PROTECTIONS. TO THAT END, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL PROTECTIVE PARAGRAPH FOR THE VILLAGE HAVING TO DO WITH THIRD PARTY CLAIMS IN THE PRESENT VERSION OF THE PUD ZONING AGREEMENT. IT'S PARAGRAPH 15 THAT I WAS ABLE TO GET FPL TO AGREE TO. I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR. I ADDED THAT PARAGRAPH AFTER I WAS ABLE TO GET FPL TO AGREE TO IT, AND IT WAS FOR THE ADDITIONAL PROTECTION OF THE VILLAGE. IT'S LANGUAGE DRAWN FROM LANGUAGE THAT OUR OFFICE HAS IMPLEMENTED, AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS FOR OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CLIENTS OF OURS. IT CLARIFIES THAT THE VILLAGE COUNCIL WILL MAINTAIN ITS AUTHORITY TO DIRECT ANY LITIGATION ON BEHALF OF THE VILLAGE IN THE MANNER THE VILLAGE COUNCIL SEES FIT ALL RIGHT, AND AT THE SAME TIME PROVIDES PROTECTION FOR TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND THE VILLAGE COFFERS BY MAKING FPL RESPONSIBLE FOR COVERING ANY COSTS AND FEES LIKE EXPERT WITNESSES, CONSULTANTS OR OTHER PROFESSIONALS RELATING TO ANY THIRD PARTY LITIGATION THAT WOULD ALLOW THE VILLAGE TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THE MERITS OF ANY LITIGATION, RATHER THAN THREATS TO RUN UP BIG COSTS AND WASTE TAXPAYER DOLLARS, WHICH OF COURSE, WE WANT TO PROTECT. TO BE VERY CLEAR, BECAUSE I'VE HAD QUESTIONS ON THIS, THAT PARAGRAPH DOES NOT HAVE THE VILLAGE COVERING ANY COSTS WHATSOEVER OF FPL'S ANYTHING.
AND TO BE VERY CLEAR, IT IS PERFECTLY LEGAL TO ADD SUCH A PROVISION TO A PUD ZONING AGREEMENT AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS, AND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT. SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DEENA FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO PUT ON THEIR PRESENTATION, AND THEN WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT FOR THEIR PRESENTATION. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DEENA. THANK YOU. WADE, IT'S DEENA FREEMAN WITH THE COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. I'M THE PLANNER FOR THE PROJECT PROJECT COORDINATOR. THE PRESENTATION THAT'S IN THE IN THE AGENDA PACKET IS NOT DISSIMILAR TO LAST WEEK'S AGENDA AND PRESENTATION. SO WHAT I'D FIRST LIKE TO START WITH IS A REMINDER OF WHY WE'RE HERE. AND IF WE CAN GO STRAIGHT TO THE MAPS ON THE POWERPOINT. IF YOU JUST GO THROUGH AND SHOW THE BOUNDARY JUST SLICK FLEW. THERE YOU GO. SO THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THE TESORO GROVES SECOND READING OF
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THE PUD REZONING TO PUD, WHICH IS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS A ZONING AGREEMENT THAT IS AN OPTION FOR FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT AS A REZONING DESIGNATION ON THE PROPERTY.FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT IS. PROJECT PARROT CAME IN AND REQUESTED AN ANNEXATION TO ADD 5720 ACRES TO INDIANTOWN. THE RED BOUNDARY IS IS RIGHT NOW IS ADDED AND WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL MUNICIPAL BOUNDARY OF THE VILLAGE. CONCURRENTLY WITH THAT, THERE WAS A LARGE SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WAS REQUESTED AND APPROVED BY VILLAGE COUNCIL AFTER EXTENSIVE REVIEW, AND IT WAS ALSO REVIEWED, TRANSMITTED AND REVIEWED TO THE STATE. FLORIDA COMMERCE FOR THEIR REVIEW AND MULTIPLE REVIEW CONSULTANT CONSULTATIONS THAT WERE REQUIRED BY FLORIDA STATE STATUTE. IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WAS IN ORDER AND IT CAME BACK FOR THE ADOPTION HEARING. SO IT HAD A TRANSMITTAL HEARING, AND IT WAS ADOPTED FOLLOWING REVIEW BY FLORIDA'S THE FLORIDA COMMERCE. SORRY, I'M BEING A BIT DISTRACTED. SO WHAT WE'VE GOT IS THE REQUEST FOLLOWING THE ADOPTION OF THE LARGE SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A ZONING DESIGNATION PLACED ON THE PROPERTY. CURRENTLY, A ZONING DISTRICT FROM MARTIN COUNTY IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR INDIAN TOWN. THAT'S THAT THAT'S GONE.
IT'S NOW IN THE VILLAGE. WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM A ZONING DESIGNATION, THE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE, AND IT'S COVERED IN VERY MUCH IN A LOT OF DETAIL IN THE SLIDESHOW AND IN THE STAFF REPORT. AND ALL OF THE INFORMATION IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS A ZONING WITHIN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LAND USE. THE ALTERNATIVE AND WHAT'S ON THE TABLE TODAY IS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, A PUD ZONING AGREEMENT, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY AND I MENTIONED THIS LAST WEEK IN MY PRESENTATION, THIS WAS SOMETHING ENCOURAGED AND ASKED OF THE APPLICANT THEY COULD COME IN AND DEVELOP AND DO THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING AND DEVELOP UNDER THAT. WHAT THIS DOES WITH ZONING AGREEMENT IS PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SAFEGUARDS, ASSURANCES, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND CONDITIONS, AND PUBLIC BENEFITS THAT ARE ON OFFER. AND ALSO, AS WAS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, IT PROVIDES THAT 2,000,000FT■S BASED ON LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TRIPS THRESHOLD FOR DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, THE FIVE 600,000,000FT■S THAT COULD BE ALL THE 20 UNITS PER ACRE TIMES 5720 ACRES. SO THEY TOOK THE RESIDENTIAL OUT OF IT AT STAFF'S REQUEST, AND THEY PROVIDED A VERY THOROUGH WORKING WITH WADE AND WITH STAFF, A VERY THOROUGH ZONING AGREEMENT. SO WHERE WE'RE AT NOW IS SECOND READING. SO LAST WEEK WE HAD THE RECOMMENDATION UNANIMOUSLY FOR APPROVAL. THIS IS THE SECOND READING AND BASICALLY CONSIDERATION FOR THE ZONING AGREEMENT APPROVAL. THERE'S AN EXTENSIVE SLIDE SHOW, BUT IT'S THE SAME AS WHAT YOU HAD LAST WEEK. SO RATHER THAN GO THROUGH THAT, I WANT TO ASK THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNCIL.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK AND IT'S IT'S PUBLIC RECORD. IT'S BEEN INCLUDED. SO AT THIS POINT, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION REMAINS AS IT WAS, RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S ADOPTED FOR INDIAN TOWN FOLLOWING INCORPORATION BASED ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE SINCE SOON AFTER INCORPORATION. AND AND BASED ON FLORIDA STATE STATUTES, THOSE RULES AND REGULATIONS HAVE BEEN IN PLACE WAY BEFORE I STARTED WORKING HERE. AND THAT'S THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH TODAY AS WE GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING, SCHEDULING, REVIEW AND FINAL ACTION BEFORE VILLAGE COUNCIL. SO AT THAT POINT, I'M HAPPY TO END MY PRESENTATION AND HAND IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT. IF YOU AND ALSO TO OBVIOUSLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. SO OUR TWO OPTIONS ARE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WITHOUT CONTROLS, BASICALLY AT WILL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. ANYTHING THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
SORRY, I'VE GOT IT AS CLOSE AS I CAN GET IT WITHOUT BITING IT. YOU HAVE TO BITE THAT OR THE THE PUD WHICH IS HAS LIMITS AND IS I BELIEVE SOMEONE SAID 1% USAGE OR 2% USAGE. I'M NOT SURE IF THOSE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT, BUT A VERY MUCH DECREASED USAGE ON THE PROPERTY. THOSE ARE OUR TWO OPTIONS. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I'LL HAND IT OVER UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. AT THIS POINT, THERE'S A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AS WELL. SO I WANT TO RESPECT THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS BOB RAINS. I'M A LAND USE ATTORNEY WITH
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THE GUNSTER LAW FIRM. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AGAIN THIS EVENING. I'D LIKE TO BEGIN THIS EVENING BY REMINDING EVERYONE, AND IT WAS JUST MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR A REZONING AND NOT A SITE SPECIFIC PROJECT. A DATA CENTER OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF USE IS STRICTLY, AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT, A REZONING. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT, IF I COULD, JUST TO ASK MISS FRIEDMAN A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS, IF THAT'S OKAY, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, MISS FRIEDMAN. THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD. LAST WEEK, AT OUR LAST MEETING ON APRIL 23RD, I BELIEVE, UNDER SWORN TESTIMONY, YOU STATED AND ANSWERED THE QUESTION, DOES THIS PROJECT MEET THE THIS REZONING? DOES IT MEET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES FOR THE VILLAGE AND YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION? YES, IT DOES. AND HAS ANYTHING HAPPENED BETWEEN THAT APRIL 23RD MEETING AND THE MEETING HERE THIS EVENING THAT WOULD CHANGE YOUR OPINION TO THAT? NO. SO IN YOUR ONCE AGAIN, IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, THE REZONING BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND THE PUD AGREEMENT TONIGHT, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH AND MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE VILLAGE'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. YES. THANK YOU. SO AT THIS TIME, AGAIN, WE WANT TO HAVE RESPECT FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE HERE TOO. AND KNOW YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK. I'M GOING TO ASK BRIAN NOLAN, WHO IS OUR PLANNER, TO COME UP, MAKE A VERY SHORT PRESENTATION, JUST COVER A COUPLE OF QUICK HIGHLIGHTS, AND THEN WE HAVE THE REST OF OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM HERE, AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. SO I'LL ASK MR. NOLAN TO COME UP AND HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR HIM. SO, MR. NOLAN, IF YOU COULD, CAN YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, SIR? YES. BRIAN NOLAN. AND HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN? YES, I HAVE. OH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND I KNOW THAT I SUBMITTED YOUR RESUME AT THE APRIL 23RD MEETING INTO THE RECORD, BUT COULD YOU JUST GIVE US A BRIEF SUMMARY OF YOUR EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND AND WORK HISTORY, PLEASE, SIR? SURE. I HAVE A PROFESSIONAL BACHELOR DEGREE IN LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FROM UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA. I AM A CERTIFIED PLANNER THROUGH THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF CERTIFIED PLANNERS, ACP, AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ALMOST 21 YEARS. THANK YOU. WANT TO GO AHEAD WITH YOUR. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. AGAIN, I'LL BE BRIEF. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT, SO IF IT AT THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD, I COULD JUST HIT A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS PRESENTATION. OR I CAN GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION IF YOU LIKE.HIGHLIGHTS ARE FINE. HIGHLIGHTS. HIGHLIGHTS ARE FINE. YEAH. OKAY. CAN YOU PLEASE ADVANCE? TO THE, I THINK ONE MORE. SO THIS SLIDE AGAIN, JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY SHOWING THE EXISTING USES ADJACENT TO THE TO THE PROPOSED PUD BOUNDARY, INCLUDING HEAVY INDUSTRIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
THE INDIAN TOWN COGEN FACILITY. FLORIDA NATURAL GAS, ETC. COULD YOU PLEASE ADVANCE TO THE FUTURE LAND USE. AGAIN AS. AS MISS FREEMAN STATED, THIS PARCEL HAS BEEN ASSIGNED THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE AS REVIEWED BY THE STATE LAND PLANNING AGENCY AND ADOPTED BY THE BY THE COUNCIL. AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE ON THE NORTHERN PORTION THE ADJACENCY OR CONTIGUITY TO THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USES AND THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AGAIN, THIS IS A DEPICTION OF THE PROPOSED ZONING. I'LL NOTE AGAIN THAT THE HATCHING OF THE PROPOSED PUD HATCH THAT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WE PUT ON THERE FOR GRAPHIC PURPOSES JUST TO TO ILLUSTRATE WHAT THE PROPOSED ZONING IS. AND THAT HATCH IS CONSISTENT, GENERALLY SPEAKING, ANYWAY, WITH THE VILLAGES PUD HATCH PATTERN. AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE ADJACENCY TO THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES TO THE NORTH AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SPEAKING TO COMPATIBILITY AND CONSISTENCY OF THE PROPOSED PUD, AGAIN, AS STAFF INDICATED THAT THE PROPOSED PUD IS CONSISTENT WITH AND IMPLEMENTS THE FUTURE LAND USE THAT IS CURRENTLY ASSIGNED TO THE SITE. IT IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES THAT'S SITUATED WITHIN AN AREA, AS WE SAW IN THE STAFF EXPLAINED FOR A COUPLE HEARINGS. NOW THAT IT'S WITHIN AN AREA OF ESTABLISHED AND EXPANDING
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INDUSTRIAL AND UTILITY USES, THE SITE IS PHYSICALLY SUITABLE TO SUPPORT THE LIGHT USE IT'S LOCATED IN. AGAIN ESTABLISHED AN EXPANDING INDUSTRIAL UTILITY AREA AND ITS LOCATION AND PROXIMITY TO THE HIGHWAY MAKES IT SUITABLE FOR EFFICIENT DEVELOPMENT. NEXT SLIDE. WITH REGARD TO COMPATIBILITY AND CONSISTENCY OF THE PROPOSED PUD ZONING, THE MASTER SITE PLAN.THEY ARE CONSISTENT AS STAFF ALSO INDICATED, AND WE AGREE WITH THE VILLAGE'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. THEY PROVIDE THE VILLAGE WITH A CLEAR AND CONCISE FRAMEWORK. AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT DISCUSSING A FRAMEWORK TO GOVERN DEVELOPMENT OVER TIME. THAT FRAMEWORK REQUIRES THAT SITE SPECIFIC OR SITE PLAN SPECIFIC TECHNICAL REVIEW OCCURS AT TIME OF FINAL SITE PLAN, AND IT'S BASED ON ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT THAT IS PROPOSED. AND AGAIN, IT ALSO LIMITS DEVELOPMENT TO, I BELIEVE IT'S UNDER 1%, 2,000,000FT■S, OR THE EQUIVALENT OF GENERAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES VERSUS APPROXIMATELY HALF 1,000,000FT■, OR UPWARDS OF 114,000 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, OF WHICH WE ARE PRECLUDING RESIDENTIAL USES FROM BEING ABLE TO BE DEVELOPED THROUGH THE PUD ZONING AGREEMENT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AGAIN, SOME OF THE HIGH POINTS THAT THE PUD IMPLEMENTS AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE THAT IT'S ADJACENT TO SIMILAR USES, THAT IT REQUIRES ADEQUATE CAPACITY TO BE PROVIDED, AND IT LIMITS OVERALL DEVELOPMENT INTENSITY. IT ALSO REQUIRES THE CONSTRUCTION OF PRIVATE WASTEWATER SERVICES BY WHOMEVER IS DEVELOPING AT THAT TIME TO NO COST TO THE OWNER, TO THE TO THE VILLAGE. I SHOULD SAY, IF ADEQUATE SERVICE CANNOT BE PROVIDED AT THAT TIME TO THE VILLAGE. SO THERE ARE PROTECTIONS BUILT INTO THE PUD AGREEMENT THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE OWNER TO ABSOLVE OR ABSORB ALL OF THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF SUCH FACILITIES. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS, THE OVERALL INTENSITY HAS BEEN GREATLY REDUCED AGAIN TO I BELIEVE IT'S UNDER 1% OF WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWABLE. THE PERMITTED PRIMARY USES ARE LIMITED TO THOSE CURRENTLY PERMITTED WITHIN THE VILLAGE'S LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. TOGETHER WITH SUCH ACCESSORY USES, EXCEPT FOR RESIDENTIAL. AND. THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH, MEETING AND APPOINTMENT OF COMMUNITY LIAISON FOR DATA USES. IF A DATA USE WERE TO COME IN, BUILDING HEIGHTS BEEN LIMITED TO 50FT OR THREE STORIES VERSUS FOUR STORIES, THERE'S A 50 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK REQUIREMENT FROM THE PUD BOUNDARY NORTH OF THE WATERWAY, AND A 100 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK FOR NON UTILITY USES SOUTH OF THE WATERWAY VERSUS THE 25 FOOT FRONT SETBACK OR FIVE FOOT SIDE, OR A 15 FOOT REAR SETBACK. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU. JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS FOR MR. NOLAN. SO, SIR, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE VILLAGE'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CORRECT? YES. SORRY. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T. AND IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, IS THE AS THE REZONING AND THE MATTER BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WITH THE PUD AGREEMENT AND THE REZONING, IS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE VILLAGE'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE? YES. THANK YOU. SO JUST SO THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. AGAIN, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE SHOWN THROUGH COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, TESTIMONY FROM YOUR STAFF, TESTIMONY FROM OUR EXPERT WITNESSES, THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. WE HAVE OUR ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HERE. WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. I'M SURE YOU HAVE SOME. AND FINALLY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO RESERVE TIME AT THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE OR THE OR THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE. SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU. NOW, AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR ME TO ASK ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. YES. OKAY. SO AS I BROUGHT TO YOUR. TO YOU TO YOU GUYS EARLIER THIS EVENING, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE LANGUAGE. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT OR ASK THE QUESTION OF YOU FIRST. MR. VOSS, AS ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL THAT
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WOULD NEED TO BE REVIEWED BY THE PZAB BOARD AGAIN, BEEN CHANGED SINCE THEY SAW IT.ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL THAT PERHAPS WOULD CHANGE THEIR POSITION? IS THERE ANY CHANGE? ARE THERE ANY CHANGES IN THIS DOCUMENT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REVIEWED AGAIN? YEAH, THERE HAVE BEEN NO CHANGES THUS FAR FROM THE TIME IT WAS REVIEWED BY THE P, P, Z, A, B TO NOW, THAT WOULD LEGALLY REQUIRE IT TO GO BACK TO THE P, Z, A, B TO BE REVIEWED. SO THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES, BUT NOTHING THAT WOULD LEGALLY REQUIRE US TO START OVER WITH GOING BACK THROUGH.
THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. YEAH. SO WE HAD THE ADDITION FROM THAT TIME TO NOW. WE HAD THE ADDITION OF THE PARAGRAPH I DESCRIBED. THERE WAS, I THINK, CLARIFYING CHANGE OF REFERENCE FROM OWNER TO APPLICANT, WHICH IN THE CONTEXT OF, OF THAT IS JUST A CLARIFYING REFERENCE BECAUSE THERE'S A PROVISION ELSEWHERE IN THE PUD ZONING AGREEMENT THAT SAYS BASICALLY THAT SUBSEQUENT LANDOWNERS AND APPLICANTS STAND IN THE SHOES OF THE OWNER WITH RESPECT TO ANY OF THAT. SO IT'S BASICALLY JUST DRILLING DOWN TO, SAY, THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY OWNING A PIECE OF PROPERTY AT THAT TIME WOULD BE PAYING THAT. SO IN THAT SENSE, THEY'RE SYNONYMOUS. IT WAS PURE CLARIFICATION. AND THEN I THINK A NON-SUBSTANTIVE COMMA OR TWO GOT PUT SOMEWHERE.
I SAY NON-SUBSTANTIVE BECAUSE COMMENTS CAN BE IMPORTANT IN THESE IN THESE INSTANCES HAD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING. OKAY. CAN YOU PLEASE, FOR THE RECORD, TELL ME WHAT NUMBER 15 THIRD PARTY DEFENSE DOES FOR EITHER THE APPLICANT OR THE THE VILLAGE AND EXPLAIN ITS PURPOSE, WHY IT WAS ADDED AND. SURE. AND I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO WASTE EVERYONE'S TIME IN REHASH THAT. EVERYTHING I JUST EXPLAINED BEFORE ABOUT IT BECAUSE I. I DID MY BEST TO TRY TO DO A LITTLE BIT TO WASTE MY TIME BECAUSE I WANT MORE CLARIFICATION ON WHY IT WAS ADDED. PERFECT, WHY IT WAS ADDED, AND THE PURPOSE IT SERVES. AND ALSO, I MADE IT CLEAR EARLIER THAT I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH $1 MILLION CAP FOR THEM. THEY'RE A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR, BILLION DOLLAR, POTENTIALLY COMMERCIAL COMPANY. AND WE ARE A SMALL VILLAGE IN A DEFICIT AT THIS POINT. AND I WANT MORE SUPPORT. AND WE'VE SPOKEN I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU GUYS AND TOLD YOU THAT THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE TO ME. SO AFTER YOU HAVE MADE IT CLEAR WHY THIS WAS ADDED AND ITS PURPOSE AND WHO IT HELPS, THEN I WILL TELL YOU WHAT MY MINIMUM ACCEPTABILITY IS FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. YEAH. AND COUNCILMEMBER, IF YOU WANT TO WAIT TO TO TALK ABOUT THAT, THAT'S FINE. BUT JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, IS IT THAT YOU OBJECT TO THIS PARAGRAPH BEING IN THERE, IN HERE, OR IS THERE ONE PIECE THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU? NO, I DO NOT OBJECT TO THE PARAGRAPH. ONCE YOU'VE EXPLAINED IT CLEARLY AND THAT WE UNDERSTAND ITS PURPOSE AND WHY IT WAS ADDED AND WHAT IT DOES FOR US. SURE, THERE IS. IN PARTICULAR, THE MILLION DOLLARS IS UNACCEPTABLE TO ME. $1 MILLION IS NOT ENOUGH IF I GET. YEAH, IT'S NOT HIGH ENOUGH FOR YOU. IT'S NOT HIGH ENOUGH FOR ME. OKAY, SO THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF OF THIS PARAGRAPH BEING IN HERE. I'LL JUST WALK THROUGH ALL THE PIECES UP HERE SO IT REFERENCES. I MAY END UP READING SOME PARTS OF IT. SORRY TO TO BORE EVERYONE, BUT IN THE EVENT THERE ARE ANY CLAIMS, SUITS OR DEMANDS BROUGHT AGAINST EITHER PARTY, SO EITHER THE OWNER OR THE VILLAGE BY THIRD PARTIES CHALLENGING THE PUD AGREEMENT, THE PROJECT ANNEXATION, THE FLUME AMENDMENT OR REZONING OF THE PROJECT PROPERTY SUBJECT TO PUD AGREEMENT OR OBJECTING TO ANY ASPECT THEREOF, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, THAT LISTS THROUGH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN DO CHALLENGES OF THINGS AND SO ON. IT SAYS FIRST, THE VILLAGE WILL DEFEND SUCH SUIT AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. SO IT IS PUTTING IN THERE VERY CLEARLY BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS PIECE HERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT FPL ON THE HOOK FOR OUR PROFESSIONAL FEES, WE WANT TO MAKE REALLY CLEAR ON IT WHO'S CALLING THE SHOTS. ALL RIGHT. THE VILLAGE COUNCIL WILL CONTINUE TO BE CALLING THE SHOTS. NOT IN NO WAY AT ALL WILL THE FACT THAT MONEY IS, YOU KNOW, COMING FROM OR WHEREVER HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THE VILLAGE TO DEFEND ANY SUCH SUIT AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY THE VILLAGE COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT. THERE IS A SMALL CAVEAT TO MAKE THIS LEGAL EFFECTIVELY, BUT AGREES NOT TO TAKE ANY ACTION CONTRARY TO THE PUD AGREEMENT. SO WHAT THAT MEANS, AND THAT THAT IS WHAT THE LAW
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WOULD REQUIRE IN ANY EVENT, TO UTILIZE LITIGATION AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SLIP OUT AS A DEFENDANT, TO SLIP OUT OF, OF AN OBLIGATION THAT YOU AGREED TO. SO CLARIFY. THAT MEANS WE JUST HONOR THE AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE COME TO WITH THE PUD. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. OKAY. BUT WHEN IT WHEN IT COMES TO DEFENDING THE SUIT, YOU DO IT. IF HYPOTHETICAL SUIT IT BE DEFENDED AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. SO I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. IF SOMETHING CAME IN AND Y'ALL TOOK A LOOK AT IT, I TOOK A LOOK AT IT. WE TALKED ABOUT IT, AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE A PROBLEM HERE. MAYBE WE DO X, MAYBE WE DO Y OR WHAT HAVE YOU. IT ENDS UP FPL DOESN'T REALLY LIKE THAT TOO MUCH. IT'S NOT THEIR CALL. IT'S YOUR CALL. OKAY, SO THAT'S THAT. FURTHERMORE, VILLAGE AGREES TO CONSENT TO AND SUPPORT OWNER'S INTERVENTION IN ANY SUCH SUIT BROUGHT BY THE VILLAGE BROUGHT AGAINST THE VILLAGE. SO JUST TO CLARIFY ON THAT, IT IS A BLACK LETTER PIECE OF FLORIDA LAND USE LAW, AN APPLICANT IN ANY QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER IS ENTITLED TO INTERVENE IN A CASE. THERE IS. THERE'S NO INSTANCE WHERE THAT THAT COULDN'T COME TO BE. AND SO WHAT THAT'S BASICALLY SAYING IS AVOIDING A WEEK OF SILLY MOTION PRACTICE, SAYING WE OBJECT TO IT EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW THE LAW SAYS THEY HAVE TO COME IN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO IT'S, IT'S A BIT OF A NOTHING SAVING A WEEK OF FOOLING AROUND IN MOTION PRACTICE. YES. I'M SORRY, YOU HAD A QUESTION. I WAS JUST SAYING, DOES THAT MEAN THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO COME IN AND DEFEND THEMSELVES? YES, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. WHICH IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, WHICH FLORIDA LAW ALREADY PROVIDES. OKAY.THIS IS JUST PUTTING IT DOWN THERE THAT, HEY, WE ALL ACKNOWLEDGE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT. SO HERE GETS TO THE THE GRABBING OF IT. IN THE EVENT OF SUCH CLAIM, SUCH DEMANDS BROUGHT AGAINST THE VILLAGE OWNER AGREES TO PAY THE ATTORNEY'S FEES AND LITIGATION COSTS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE PROFESSIONAL AND EXPERT FEES INCURRED BY VILLAGE RELATING TO SUCH CLAIMS, SUITS OR DEMANDS TO THE EXTENT NOT COVERED BY A POLICY OR POLICIES OF INSURANCE, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE SHALL OWNERS FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR ATTORNEY'S FEES AND LITIGATION COSTS UNDER THIS SECTION 15.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS LIMITED TO THAT. LET ME READ THAT AGAIN. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHALL OWNER'S FINANCIAL RESPONSIBLE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ATTORNEY'S FEES AND LITIGATION COSTS UNDER THIS SECTION 15 EXCEED THE SUM OF $1 MILLION. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? ALL RIGHT. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IN ANYTHING RELATING TO ALL THIS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, THAT THEY CAN ONLY BE SUED FOR UP TO $1 MILLION OR ANYTHING LIKE GENERALLY RELATING TO ALL THIS. IT IS PUTTING A VERY PARTICULAR CAP ON THE PARTICULAR THING HERE. WHEN THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE AGREEING, THEY'RE GOING TO COVER THOSE, THOSE FEES AND PROFESSIONAL COSTS AND SO ON. BUT THEY'RE PUTTING A CAP OF $1 MILLION WHEN YOU'RE IMPLEMENTING THIS LITTLE PARAGRAPH. THAT'S IT. OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT LITTLE PARAGRAPH IS IMPORTANT TO ME AND $1 MILLION IS NOT ENOUGH. OKAY. I THINK I'VE MADE IT CLEAR TO YOU GUYS THAT A CAR WRECK CAN COST OVER $1 MILLION IN LITIGATION. WE NEED A SUBSTANTIAL A SUBSTANTIAL COMMITMENT. I THINK THAT NUMBER SHOULD BE CHANGED TO $5 MILLION. I THINK YOU GUYS HAD AGREED TO THAT. AND I WOULD THAT WAS IS ONE OF THE FIRST CHANGES I'D LIKE TO SEE MADE IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION. COUNCIL MEMBER JAMIE GENTILE WITH FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT, 700 UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD. AND AND I'VE BEEN SWORN IN. YES, WE WILL WE WOULD WILL AGREE TO THAT TO THAT $5 MILLION CAP AS AS REQUESTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. FINISH, PLEASE.
GOING OVER THE LAST BIT OF THAT. OH, SURE. 15 FOR ME. IF IF AND TO THE EXTENT THAT VILLAGE RECOVERS ATTORNEY'S FEES AND COSTS FROM A THIRD PARTY LITIGANT, BECAUSE THERE ARE INSTANCES IN SOME OF THESE CAUSES OF ACTION WHERE THERE MIGHT BE FEE SHIFTING AND SO ON, VILLAGE WILL REIMBURSE THE OWNER FOR SUCH ATTORNEY'S FEES AND COSTS ACTUALLY PAID BY OWNER TO VILLAGE PURSUANT TO THE SIGNATURE. SO IF THERE IS BECAUSE THE LAW SAYS IT REQUIRES IT, THAT THERE'S RECOVERY AND THERE'S ACTUAL RECOVERY FROM SOMEBODY SUING, THEN TO THE EXTENT THEY FRONTED THE MONEY, THEY GET IT REIMBURSED BACK. BUT THAT'S JUST IT. AND THAT'S AT THE TIME THAT WE ACTUALLY RECEIVE THAT, NOT JUST A JUDGMENT FOR THAT.
THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. YEAH. CORRECT. SO THAT WE WOULD NOT BE OWING ANYTHING UNTIL IT WAS ACTUALLY RECEIVED BECAUSE A LOT OF JUDGMENTS GO TO RECOVERY VILLAGE RECOVERS ATTORNEY'S FEES AND COSTS FROM IT. YES, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. NO, A PAPER JUDGMENT, AS YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY BEFORE, YOU CAN'T GET BLOOD OUT OF A TURNIP. EXACTLY. AND THEN FINALLY, JUST A LITTLE THING. VILLAGE AND OWNERSHIP PROBABLY GIVE THE OTHER WRITTEN NOTICE OF ANY SUCH ACTION, INCLUDING THOSE THAT ARE PENDING OR THREATENED COPIES OF ALL RESPONSES, FILINGS,
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PLEADINGS WITH RESPECT TO JUST ANY. WE GET ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE HAVE TO SHARE IT WITH EACH OTHER. AND IS THIS IN ANY WAY CONSIDERED A PARTNERSHIP OR ANY KIND OF. A RELATIONSHIP THAT WOULD BE DEEMED UNETHICAL OR ILLEGAL IN ANY WAY? NOT IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER? THIS IS TYPICAL, VERY TYPICAL. OKAY. I, I UNDERSTAND, BY THE WAY, SLIGHTLY LESS TYPICAL DOWN THIS WAY, BUT UP IN CENTRAL FLORIDA, LANGUAGE LIKE THIS IS VERY TYPICAL. OKAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THINGS LEGALLY. ABSOLUTELY. I HAVE ANOTHER SECTION. YES, MA'AM.OKAY. COMPLIANCE WITH FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS, PLEASE. MR. VOSS, GO OVER NUMBER 14 FOR US.
ABSOLUTELY. AND THIS IS KIND OF AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION TO UNDERSTAND HOW DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WORK IN FLORIDA. SO I WANT TO MENTION TWO THINGS TO LEAD INTO ON ONE THING. AND AS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AT HEARINGS BEFORE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DOES IS LOCK IN PLACE FOR A FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY, THE LOCAL LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, OKAY, FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AT THE PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME THAT COMES DIRECTLY FROM THE STATUTE FOR GOVERNING STATUTORY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. ALL RIGHT. IT LOCKS IN THAT AT THAT TIME. ALL RIGHT. NOW, I WILL TELL YOU, BY THE WAY, WE DO HAVE A BREAKOUT EXCEPTION FOR CLARIFICATION IN HERE, WHICH IS LEGAL TO DO. AND THAT IS WITH RESPECT TO OUR OUR IMPACT FEES, MOBILITY FEES, CAPITAL CONNECTION FEES, AND SO ON. AT ANY TIME GOING INTO THE FUTURE, THEY DON'T GET THOSE NUMBERS LOCKED IN TO TODAY. IT IS WHATEVER IT IS IN THE FUTURE WHEN THEY COME A KNOCKING. ALL RIGHT. AND OTHER OTHER DEVELOPERS IN THE VILLAGE KNOW THAT I'M VERY INSISTENT ON HAVING THAT IN THERE BECAUSE AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS, WE HAVE A LOT OF CAPITAL NEEDS AND SO ON. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT LOCKING IN NUMBERS WHEN THE HIGH INFLATION ENVIRONMENT AND SO ON. SO WITH THE ABSENCE OF THAT, IT IS LOCKING LOCAL ORDINANCES IN PLACE. HOWEVER, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS CANNOT LOCK IN. IT WOULD BE INTERESTING IF YOU COULD. YOU CANNOT LOCK IN STATE. WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF THE STATE AND CANNOT LOCK IN FEDERAL LAWS. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY CLEAR ON THIS. WE HAVE PARAGRAPH 14 THAT SAYS COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE FEDERAL AND STATE LAW, SUBJECT TO THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO SUBSECTION 2.3 ABOVE. SUBSECTION 2.3 ABOVE DESCRIBES WHAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT ABOUT LOCAL ORDINANCES THROUGHOUT THE TERM OF THIS AGREEMENT. OWNER AND THE VILLAGE SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS, RULES, REGULATIONS, CODES, RESOLUTIONS, ADMINISTRATIVE ORDERS, PERMITS, POLICIES, PROCEDURES AND ORDERS THE GOVERNANCE OR RELATE TO THE RESPECTIVE PARTIES, OBLIGATIONS OR PERFORMANCE UNDER THIS AGREEMENT AS THEY MAY BE AMENDED FROM TIME TO TIME. SO THIS DOES NOT CANNOT. BUT JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR TO EVERYBODY DOES NOT LOCK IN STATE LAW OR FEDERAL LAW OR ITS APPLICABILITY AT SOME POINT TODAY OR IN TIME, OR WHAT HAVE YOU. I HAVE A STATE AND FEDERAL LAW GOES ON IT. IT GOES ON AND APPLIES THE WAY IT DOES, SIR. YES, MA'AM. DO YOU IS IT IS IT YOUR OPINION THAT YOU WILL BE SUBJECT TO ANY REGULATION BY THE STATE, SPECIFICALLY THE REGULATION SB 484 WHEN IT IS IMPLEMENTED JULY 1ST? IF IT IS IMPLEMENTED JULY 1ST, IT IS. IS IT YOUR OPINION THAT THIS PUD WILL BE SUBJECT TO THAT LAW? YES, MA'AM. I THINK BASED UPON WHAT MR. VOSS JUST READ WITH RESPECT TO. 14 YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ANY ANY NEW STATE LAWS AND REGULATIONS MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO. SO IF THAT ALL WOULD BECOME. IF THAT BILL WOULD BECOME LAW, WE WOULD BE SUBJECT TO IT ALSO. YES. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, MA'AM, BECAUSE IF THAT LAW BECOMES IS IS SIGNED, THAT LAW WAS PUT INTO PLACE BECAUSE THEY FELT THERE WAS A NEED FOR THAT AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN CERTAINLY WE ARE AT WE'RE A VILLAGE COUNCIL. THAT'S A GOVERNANCE AT A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL THAT'S COME UP WITH THIS. SB 484. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO VOLUNTARILY ADD THE LANGUAGE CONCERNING THE ELECTRICAL RATE? NOT BEING SPREAD TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT THAT PARTICULAR VERBIAGE AND THE WATER VERBIAGE IN 484 TO YOUR PUD? LET ME LET ME JUST CHECK. I WANT TO MAKE SURE MY CLIENT UNDERSTANDS WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO IMPLEMENT A
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LAW THAT'S NOT A LAW YET. YEAH. AND I WANT TO BE SURE HE UNDERSTANDS THAT. AND WHAT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY FOR, THE ELECTRIC POWER AND THE WATER IS THAT IN THAT THING? AND THE CONDITIONS. YEAH. YEAH. GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND. BECAUSE THINGS TAKE TIME. IF YOU NEED TO GO IN ANOTHER ROOM AND DISCUSS IT, PLEASE DO THAT. LET ME JUST CHECK HERE REAL QUICK. DO YOU HAVE IT HERE? YOU HAVE SOME LANGUAGE IN YOUR PUD THAT IS SIMILAR. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE THE RESTRICTIONS TO THE LEVEL OF THE STATE. 484 FOR THE PROTECTION OF OUR AQUIFER AND OUR COMMUNITY. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO LET ME SPEAK TO THE. COUNCIL MEMBER AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, JAMIE GENTILE WITH FPL. SO WE ACTUALLY DO REFERENCE OUR TARIFF IN THE PUD AGREEMENT ALREADY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY, AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THE MOST IT'S ONE OF THE MOST PROGRESSIVE AND ONE OF THE MOST. PLEASE PUT THAT IN LAYMAN'S TERMS AS TO WHAT THE TARIFF INVOLVES. THE ELECTRICAL USAGE. CORRECT. BASICALLY SAYS THAT ANYBODY COMING FORWARD WITH WITH A LARGE LOAD REQUIREMENT FOR POWER WOULD PAY 100% OF THE THEIR THEIR USAGE AND IT WOULD NOT BE PUSHED, PUT, PUT ON THE RATEPAYERS. SO WE, WE ACTUALLY ALREADY STATE THAT I BELIEVE IN OUR PUD. I SAW THAT AND AND IT'S ALSO PART OF OUR IT'S PART OF OUR SERVICE TERRITORY. MAY I ASK OUR LAWYER SOMETHING, PLEASE? SURE. IS THE LANGUAGE IN THE PUD. ON THE SAME SCALE OF RESTRICTIVENESS AS THE LANGUAGE IN 848484. I'M SORRY.YEAH. FOUR. EIGHT. FOUR. I THINK I'M LET ME IF IF IT'S ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE AT SOME POINT IT MAY MAKE SENSE IF IF WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS I NEED TO CONFAB WITH THEM. ABOUT TO GET DOWN INTO GRITTY DETAILS. LET ME GET THE DETAILS OUT AND I'LL LET YOU GUYS DO THAT. AND WE CAN DO THAT. AND FOLKS CAN GIVE YOU PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE CAN SORT IT ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
SO I WOULD LIKE THE RESTRICTIONS ON I WOULD LIKE THE RESTRICTIONS TO BE ON PAR WITH THE LAW, WHETHER THE LAW IS IMPLEMENTED OR NOT, FOR THE PROTECTION OF OUR COMMUNITY'S WATER AND ELECTRIC RESOURCES. THE OTHER THING THAT MAY AS WELL GET OUT THERE. YES, MA'AM.
THIS PUD SAYS THAT AS LONG AS WE CANNOT PROVIDE YOU WATER, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO USE A WASTEWATER. WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME AQUIFER. SO WHETHER WE'RE PROVIDING IT TO YOU OR NOT, THE WATER IS BEING USED. I WOULD LIKE A CHANGE TO THAT, TO SAY THAT YOU, AS A UTILITY, MAY USE THE WATER ON YOUR PROPERTY AS PER YOUR CONSUMPTION OF THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE, BUT ANY NON UTILITY DATA CENTER, IF IT HAPPENS, WOULD NOT HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, WOULD HAVE TO PAY A WATER DEPOSIT OF A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, HELP US GET OUR WATER PLANT ONLINE AND THEN HOOK UP. IT'S ACTUALLY A NO GO FOR ME TO APPROVE THIS UNLESS WE HAVE SOME REGULATION ON WHO'S USING HOW MUCH WATER. AS WE ARE IN A DROUGHT. THERE ARE OTHER CONCERNS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS, AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS. BUT FOR ME, THESE ARE THE TWO REALLY TWO OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS. I THINK YOU ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF THE NOISE CONCERNS, THE LIGHT CONCERNS. I THINK YOU WILL DO THE RIGHT THING AS A PARTNER FOR THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT WITH THE REGULATIONS OF A PUD, THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO, LIKE EXTRA BUFFERS AND NOISE BUFFERING AND NOISE MONITORING AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF. HOWEVER, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD PLAY WITH WILLY NILLY REGULATIONS ON THE WATER OR THE ELECTRIC. IF MY LAWYER COMES BACK AND TELLS US THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A GOOD SOLID THING ON THE ELECTRICITY ALREADY IN PLACE, THAT'S GREAT, BUT I WANT SOMETHING ON THE WATER USAGE THAT SAYS THAT YOU AS FPL MAY USE, UTILIZE YOUR WATER UNTIL WE ARE IN A POSITION TO PROVIDE WATER AND THEN YOU'LL HOOK UP AS WELL. BUT ANY SUBSEQUENT BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY MUST CONTRIBUTE AND WAIT FOR US TO
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PROVIDE YOU WATER IF THEY WANT TO DO A BOND, IF THEY WANT TO HELP US PAY FOR OUR WATER PLANT.AND THEN WE I MEAN, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS ARE THE LEGAL PEOPLE. YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK. YEAH. SO JUST SO I'M, I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR ASK IS BECAUSE WE MAY NEED SOME A MOMENT TO. YES, ABSOLUTELY. BUT AND I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OTHER USE OTHER THAN UTILITY, WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT UP COMMIT TO SOME SORT OF PAYMENT OR PRE RESERVATION FEE, SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD COMMIT TO HOOKING UP, BUT WE COULD STILL PROCEED WITH THE ON SITE FOR THE TIME BEING WITH LIMITS. OKAY. WITH THE LIMIT. SAME LIMITS THAT ARE IN FOR 84. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. JUST I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. SO AND IF YOU NEED ME TO REITERATE, I, I WILL. I THINK THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT MOST BOTHER ME. I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS NOT READY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING. I'M NOT SURE I AM EITHER, BUT WE'RE HERE ABOUT A PUD AND THERE'S THERE'S NO THERE'S NO TELLING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE ON THIS PUD. SO TONIGHT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PUD. AND FOR ME, A PUD MAKES SENSE WITH THESE CONDITIONS. OKAY, SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR, YOU'RE YOU'RE WE'VE AGREED ON THE $5 MILLION CAP. SO WE'VE ADDRESSED YOUR CONCERNS WITH RESPECT TO THAT. WE'LL TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN HERE WITH RESPECT TO WHAT'S IN PLACE FOR, FOR, FOR RIGHT NOW. YES. AND THEN THE ON SITE WITH A PRE RESERVATION OR SOME KIND OF COMMITMENT, SOME TYPE OF COMMITMENT. YES. YES, MA'AM. SO WE CAN A SIGNIFICANT COMMITMENT I UNDERSTAND. SO WE CAN IF WE COULD TAKE A MINUTE TO JUST DISCUSS THAT SO I CAN MAKE SURE MY CLIENT UNDERSTANDS EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING ASKED AND WHATNOT. SO. MR. MR. VOSS, IF WE WANT TO STEP OUTSIDE TO DO THAT OR HOW WE WANT TO. YEAH, NOT I WOULD ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS TO OKAY WITH ME STEPPING OUT OR YOU WANT TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS, WHY DON'T WE TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK? PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT.
LET'S TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK. TRANSPARENT. WE COULD DO THE PUBLIC COMMENT. OH, YOU NEED MORE. NO. OR WE COULD TAKE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. NO, I'M FINE WITH. I THINK I'D LIKE TO HEAR.
OKAY. HE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. I THINK WE WOULD TOO. SO THANK YOU. BANG YOUR GAVEL AGAIN. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? YES, SIR. TED ASTOLFI. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TED. GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS TED. TED, CAN YOU TURN THE MIC ON, PLEASE? IT'S THE GREEN BUTTON. YEP. NOW IT'S ON. I KNEW IT WAS OFF. YOU'RE NODDING AT ME. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TED ASTOLFI. I'M A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF STUART, BUT I'M ALSO A CEO AND PRESIDENT OF THE ECONOMIC COUNCIL OF MARTIN COUNTY. AND I WAS AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD FOR DECADES AND WAS ADVOCATING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN INDIAN TOWN BEFORE YOU WERE EVEN A VILLAGE. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPROVE THE PUD. THE GREAT THING ABOUT A PUD IS IT GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY NEGOTIATE SOME OF THESE TERMS AND SAFEGUARD THE VILLAGE FROM THOSE OTHER THINGS, TO GO IN WITH STRAIGHT ZONING. I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO STRAIGHT ZONING IS GREAT FOR THE FOR THE BUSINESS. BUT FOR THE VILLAGE, BY DOING A PUD, YOU REALLY CREATE THOSE SAFEGUARDS FOR YOUR RESIDENTS AND STILL ACCOMPLISH THE SAME GOAL.
YOU'RE DIVERSIFYING YOUR TAX BASE, YOU'RE EXPANDING YOUR TAX BASE AND TAKING THAT BURDEN OFF YOUR RESIDENTS, WHICH IS WHAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS REALLY ABOUT. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU AND ASK YOU TO APPROVE THE PUD THAT YOU'VE NEGOTIATED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
MELISSA HAGUE. HELLO, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I AGREE WITH WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER IN THE MEETING TODAY THAT THE LANGUAGE OF 484, WHY ISN'T IT BEING INCLUDED ALREADY? WE ALREADY KNOW THAT IT'S COMING. WE KNOW THAT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ARE HAVING IT ADDED TO THEIRS. WHY ISN'T IT INCLUDED IN THIS? BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AGREEMENT TONIGHT, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE QUANTITATIVE AND SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE FROM THE LAST READING THAT YOU APPROVED OF YOUR SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGING BY THE SIDEBAR THAT JUST TOOK PLACE BY ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THAT LEGAL FUND, WHICH I APPLAUD YOU FOR. BUT IT EQUATES TO A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE. YOU ALSO HAVE OTHER LANGUAGES CHANGE BETWEEN THE LAST PUD THAT WAS ISSUED THAT YOU VOTED ON, AND THIS ONE, AND THOSE CHANGES ARE ALSO IN THERE IN SECTION 15.
SECTION 15 SOUNDS VERY NEAT, GLOSSED OVER, BUT IT ALSO PUTS A LIABILITY ON YOU TO PURSUE THE APPLICANT AND OWNER'S LEGAL AS OBJECTIVES AS WELL AS YOUR OWN. I NEED YOU TO THINK ABOUT
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THAT FOR A MOMENT. WHO MIGHT HAVE ANYTHING TO OBJECT TO YOUR RESIDENCE? ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS.IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE THEM. THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THAT DEFENSE, WHICH MEANS YOU WOULD BE PROPPING THAT UP AS WELL. THESE ARE YOUR PEOPLE, NOT THE SUITS. WE ARE. THE ENVIRONMENT BELONGS TO YOU, TO ALL OF US WHO LIVE HERE AND PAY TAXES AND RESIDE HERE. WE ARE ALL FOR PROGRESS. FPL CAN BE A GREAT PARTNER, BUT WHAT'S MISSING HERE IS THE TRANSPARENCY. THAT LITTLE ACCIDENT OUT THERE STEPPING OUT IN A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING, DOES NOT HELP BREED ANY CONFIDENCE BETWEEN YOUR COMMUNITY AND THOSE YOU REPRESENT. YOU ARE FPL, YOU'RE NOT ENGAGING. AND THE CHANGE IN THIS PUD TONIGHT FROM THE LAST READING, I'VE GOT A LIST OF CHANGES. EVEN THAT SIMPLE THING THAT WAS STATED BY MR. VOSS OF IT BEING A SIMPLE PROCEDURAL THING BETWEEN APPLICANT AND OWNER. THAT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS THAT THINKS IT SOUNDS TO BE TO PEOPLE. THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS. DON'T BE HOODWINKED BY SIMPLE ADVICE. DO YOUR OWN DUE DILIGENCE. IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, DO SOME GOOGLING. IT'S FREE. AI IS THE THING, ISN'T IT? LET'S DO IT. HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH EACH OTHER.
I'M GLAD YOU'RE ASKING. IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD THESE HARD HITTING QUESTIONS ASKED FROM SOMEBODY UP HERE. BY PUTTING THIS FORWARD TONIGHT AND RUSHING IT THROUGH, IT MAKES NO SENSE. IF IT'S GOOD, IF IT'S HAVING THESE AMENDMENTS TO IT, BRING IT BACK. HAVE ANOTHER LOOK. YOU WERE TOLD THAT YOU HAD TWO OPTIONS TO AGREE TO THIS OR NOT. YOU HAVE A THIRD TABLE. IT COME BACK, POSTPONE IT AND ENSURE IT'S GOT THE CORRECT LANGUAGE BECAUSE THERE ARE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO IT AND THAT CAN BE CHALLENGED. PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE ROLE YOU HAVE. YOU WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. THAT FUND THAT THEY HAVE FOR DEFENSE IS GREAT. YOU'LL HAVE THAT TOO. BUT THE REPUTATION WITH YOUR RESIDENTS, ONCE THAT TRUST IS BROKEN, THAT FUND WON'T MEAN A DARN THING. WHEN YOU COME UP FOR REELECTION. PLEASE CONSIDER THAT GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU. DANIELLE WILLIAMSON.
THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE. IT'S GOOD TO SEE SO MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS HERE COMING OUT, SPEAKING THEIR TRUTHS, SPEAKING THEIR OPINIONS, AND LETTING YOU GUYS KNOW HOW THEY FEEL. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS DANIELLE WILLIAMSON. I'M A LIFELONG COMMUNITY MEMBER, RESIDENT BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN INDIANTOWN. I LIVE ON CITRUS BOULEVARD. HERE IN THE VILLAGE BOUNDARIES. WE'RE ALL GATHERED HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE LOVE OUR COMMUNITY AND WANT TO ENSURE THAT INDIANTOWN RECEIVES THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME, NO MATTER THE CIRCUMSTANCE. THE PUD THAT'S BEING PROPOSED ENSURES THAT INDIANTOWN REMAINS THE SMALL TOWN COMMUNITY THAT IT IS. THE PUTT IS ENSURING THAT MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF SQUARE FEET WILL NOT BE BUILT, AS THEY HAVE VOLUNTARILY CAPPED THEIR SQUARE FOOT BUILD OUT AT LESS THAN 1%. IT WAS, I HEARD EARLIER, THEY HAVE ASSURED US IN THE PUD THEY WILL NOT EXERCISE THE LIVE LOCAL ACT, WHICH ALLOWS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHICH WE CAN ALL AGREE WOULD ADD AN ENORMOUS BURDEN ON OUR RESOURCES, ALL POSSIBLE IF THEY STAY UNDER THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING THAT THEY CURRENTLY HOLD. IN MY LIFETIME HERE, FPL HAS BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS TO OUR COMMUNITY FOR OVER 40 YEARS. THEY CONTINUOUSLY SPONSOR A VARIETY OF EVENTS IN INDIANTOWN AND SURROUNDING AREAS AND CONTRIBUTE TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT AND INITIATIVES WHENEVER THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS. THEY ARE STEWARDS OF THE LAND THEY HOLD. ANYONE HERE THAT IS AN AVID OUTDOORSMAN WOULD AGREE THAT FPL LANDS HAVE SOME OF THE LARGEST AND MOST PLENTIFUL POPULATIONS OF WILDLIFE, SUCH AS DEER, TURKEY, HOG AND THE FLORIDA PANTHER THE ONLY PLACE IN FLORIDA I HAVE EVER CAUGHT A GLIMPSE OF A PANTHER IN THE WILD WAS AT THE MARTIN PLANT, WHERE THE BEAUTIFUL BARLEY BARBER SWAMP IS PRESERVED. THE PUTT ENSURES THAT OVER 90% OF THE LAND IS PROTECTED FROM CONCRETE. THAT ADDS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF LAND THAT WILL BE UNTOUCHED, SURROUNDING OUR COMMUNITY, GIVING SUBSTANTIAL SPACE FOR ADDITIONAL WILDLIFE AND PRESERVING THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND RESOURCES. INDIANTOWN IS VERY FORTUNATE TO BE SURROUNDED BY CONSERVATION AND PROTECTED LANDS, WHICH ENSURES OUR COMMUNITY NEVER EXPERIENCES RECKLESS GROWTH LIKE WE SEE IN OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES. WE'RE CURRENTLY SURROUNDED BY NOT ONLY THE MARTIN PLANT, THE C44 STE. A BARBIE RANCH WHICH WHICH WAS JUST CONGRATULATING THEM ON CONSERVING THAT BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY. WHITE BELT, ALSO KNOWN AS DUPREE, J.W. CORBETT AND ALLAPATTAH FLATS. THOSE NAMED MAKE UP OVER 100,000
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ACRES WITHIN A TEN MILE RADIUS OF WHERE WE'RE SITTING RIGHT NOW, EXTENDING BEYOND THOSE CONSERVATION LANDS, WE HAVE PLENTIFUL FARMING AND RANCH OPERATIONS, WHICH ARE THE HEART AND SOUL OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR RURAL LIFESTYLE. ERIC MILLER. OKAY, I ASKED JAMIE HERE. ERIC MILLER FOR THE RECORD, I AM ONE I WOULD LIKE TO REASSERT. I AM AN EXPERT WITH THE DATA CENTERS THROUGH MY CREDENTIALS AND PAST EXPERIENCE. PLUS, I WOULD LIKE ALSO TO TELL YOU THAT THIS HAS TO BE ONE OF THE MOST UN-AMERICAN THINGS THAT I THINK I'VE EVER SEEN. THIS. SECTION 15. SHOULD THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, THE TWO DAUGHTERS THAT OWN HERITAGE PROPERTY HERE, AND OTHER FAMILIES THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT DECIDE TO GET A LAND USE ATTORNEY BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN PUT IN AN INDUSTRIAL ENCLAVE, AND THERE ARE 3000 ACRES THAT STILL SIT OUT THERE THAT THEY COULD NOT BRING IN BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE SURROUNDING A PIECE OF MARTIN COUNTY. WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU HAVE CONTINUITY WITH YOUR LAND, I WOULD LIKE, IF WE COULD, TO BRING UP THE LAND USE MAP AND LET'S SHOW THE NEIGHBORING MARTIN COUNTY PROPERTIES, WHICH ARE ALL YELLOW AND AGRICULTURAL. THERE IS NO COMPATIBILITY WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS IN THIS. THAT'S TWO. NUMBER THREE, THE CLAUSE THAT YOU HAVE IN SECTION 15 AGAIN SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO ENTER INTO IT. YES, YOU CAN DECIDE WHETHER YOU WANT TO OR NOT, BUT WHEN THEY HOLD 85% OF YOUR AD VALOREM, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO ALONG WITH THEM, RIGHT? ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TOLD? REMEMBER GUYS, REMEMBER THESE GUYS HOLD 85% OF YOUR AD VALOREM, RIGHT? SO WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO SUE YOU, THE COUNCIL OR YOUR STAFF FOR NEGLIGENCE, LACK OF INFORMATION, THAT MEANS THAT YOU'VE GOT TO YOU'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO SUE YOU. AND YOU CAN'T LET THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO IT. YOU'VE GOT TO PAY TO KEEP THE PEOPLE FROM LITIGATING AGAINST YOU, EVEN IN A LEGITIMATE CIRCUMSTANCES. YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. NOW, $5 MILLION. IT'S OKAY. WE'VE GOT OURS PRO BONO.AND WE HAVE OUR OUR GROUP BEING SET UP NOW. AND IF WE NEED TO, WE WILL. BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO YOU IS THIS. JAMIE, FOR 84. YOU TOLD ME YOU'D GET BACK TO ME ON THIS. I HOPE YOU CAN DO IT PUBLICLY NOW FOR 84. COUNCIL ALSO ALLOWS FOR YOU TO MAKE CHANGES TO YOUR ELDERS THAT AFFECT LARGE LOAD CUSTOMERS. WILL YOU AGREE TO ANY OF THOSE CHANGES THAT ARE MADE UNDER 484 FOR LARGE LOAD CUSTOMERS TO BE EFFECTIVE IN THIS PUD MOVING FORWARD? SHOULD YOU BRING YOUR NON-EXISTENT DATA CENTER OR BATTERY STORAGE OR ANYTHING ELSE? AND PLEASE EXPLAIN THE SPOT, THE SPOT ZONING AND HOW CAN. OUR HIGHWAY HAS NOT BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE EXPERTS TOO. WE HAVE LAND DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE ALREADY SHOWN US A NUMBER OF. THIS PAGE RIGHT HERE IS 15 CHANGES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE SINCE THE PCAOB BOARD MEETING IN YOUR DOCUMENTS, NOT WITH ADDITIONS, BUT WITH DELETIONS, WITH COMMAS CHANGED FOR EMPHASIS, WITH SECTIONS CHANGED. LEGAL? MAYBE LEGAL. IS IT RIGHT? IT'S UN-AMERICAN. GUYS, THIS IS UN-AMERICAN. WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE? WAKE UP. THIS IS CORPORATE CAPTURE. THIS IS ECONOMIC CAPTURE BY A GROUP OF ELITISTS. AND YOU'RE SELLING OUT BECAUSE YOU NEED MONEY. I GET IT, YOU NEED MONEY. YOU'VE GOT THAT OBLIGATION, BUT YOU'VE GOT BIGGER ONES. BEFORE THAT, YOU'RE AMERICANS FIRST. JOE FLANAGAN. I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING FOR ME. THANK YOU MA'AM.
HI, GUYS. JOE FLANAGAN FROM STEWART. I AM NOT A RESIDENT OF INDIANTOWN, BUT I'VE BEEN VERY INVOLVED SINCE 1988 WHEN I WAS A TEACHER AT SOUTH FORK HIGH SCHOOL. I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT ON THE MARTIN COUNTY LPA. SO I FEEL WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT HERE. IT'S KIND OF A TOUGH THING. MANY, MANY TIMES I HEARD THINGS THAT I ABSOLUTELY LOVED AND WE HAD A FIVE ZERO, SOME THINGS I DID NOT CARE FOR AND I WON OR LOST THREE TWO. SO AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING, BUT A COUPLE OF THEM THAT ARE MAINLY MEMORABLE TO ME. ONE, AND I WAS NOT ON THE LPA DURING THE COSTCO PALM CITY SITUATION, BUT AT THE COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING, A GROUP SHOWED UP WITH PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES AND MATCHING T SHIRTS AND JUST SCREAMED AND YELLED UNTIL FINALLY COSTCO WENT FINE. WE'RE OUT THERE NOW IN STEWART, BUT ON THAT SAME PROPERTY, SOMETHING WILL BE ALWAYS BUILT THERE IN A PDPD GIVES YOU GOOD CONTROL OVER IT. IT'S A THE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. IT CONTROLS THAT.
BUT I STILL REMEMBER NOW THE PEOPLE IN PALM CITY, THEY'VE GOT A TRACTOR SUPPLY STORE. I LOVE IT. AND THEY GOT A, I THINK A STORAGE UNIT AND A CAR WASH. AND I BELIEVE THEY JUST APPROVED A HOTEL. SO. SO WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT IT NOW? COSTCO DID NOT LOOK SO BAD. NOW,
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THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT TECHNOLOGY THAT'S COMING UP AND I HEAR A LOT OF STATISTICS ABOUT, WELL, TECHNOLOGY THIS. AND THIS IS ALL TECHNOLOGY CHANGES THE SAME PEOPLE WHO STILL HAVE FLIP PHONES ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE PHONES THAT ARE COMING UP. SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE LINE. IF I WON'T SAY WHAT THE DATA CENTER, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. BUT TECHNOLOGY IS CORRECTING A LOT OF THOSE PROBLEMS. AND THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE ALL OUT THERE THAT CHANGE FOR US. AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPROVE THE PUD AND MOVE FORWARD, BUT ALLOW THE CONTROL THAT IS NECESSARY, AS IS STATED IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THROUGH THE COUNCIL'S DECISION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. BRANDON TUCKER. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. AGAIN, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND STAFF. MY NAME IS BRANDON TUCKER, SIX SIX, NINE NORTHEAST PLANTATION ROAD IN STUART. MY FAMILY HAS BEEN IN THIS AREA FOR GENERATIONS, AND I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF CALLING MARTIN COUNTY HOME FOR A VERY LONG TIME. I SERVE AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. AS I SAID EARLIER, THE FLORIDA LANDOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND I PREVIOUSLY SERVED AS THE PAST VICE CHAIR OF THE GOVERNING BOARD OF THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT DURING SENATOR RICK SCOTT'S THOMAS GOVERNOR. MUCH OF MY CAREER HAS FOCUSED ON WATER POLICY, LAND USE AND MAKING SURE GROWTH IN FLORIDA HAPPENS RESPONSIBLY. FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I SUPPORT THIS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BECAUSE GOOD LAND USE PLANNING AND GOOD WATER MANAGEMENT GO HAND IN HAND.WHAT STANDS OUT TO ME MOST IS THAT THIS PUD CREATES STRUCTURE, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND LONG TERM OVERSIGHT. THE PUD GIVES THE VILLAGE MORE ABILITY TO REQUIRE PROTECTIONS UP FRONT THAT STRAIGHT ZONING WOULD NOT. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WOULD WANT WHEN EVALUATING LAND OF THIS SCALE, LIMITING DEVELOPMENT TO JUST 1% OF THE TOTAL ACREAGE IS CERTAINLY SIGNIFICANT. IT PRESERVES THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE LAND WHILE ALLOWING FOR THOUGHTFUL ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
THE REMOVAL OF RESIDENTIAL USES IS EQUALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE RESIDENTIAL INTENSITY OFTEN CREATES THE GREATEST LONG TERM STRAIN ON WATER RESOURCES, WASTEWATER SYSTEMS AND PUBLIC SERVICES. THE SOUTH FLORIDA MANAGEMENT DISTRICT OVERSEES CONSUMPTIVE WATER USE PERMITS TO ENSURE FLORIDA'S WATER RESOURCES ARE PROTECTED. I CAN ASSURE YOU OF THAT, AND THE SAFEGUARDS IN THIS PUD ENSURE THAT THOSE REGULATORY REVIEWS REMAIN IN PLACE. COMBINED WITH THE ADDED BUFFERS, LANDSCAPING AND DESIGN STANDARDS, THIS REFLECTS A RESPONSIBLE AND THOUGHTFUL APPROACH. THIS AGREEMENT GIVES THE VILLAGE MORE CONTROL, NOT LESS, AND FROM BOTH A WATER MANAGEMENT AND LAND PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, I RESPECTFULLY ENCOURAGE YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT TONIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BONNIE SHELDON. I'M BONNIE SHELDON, I LIVE AT 1616363 SOUTHWEST FORWARD WAY HERE IN INDIANTOWN. AND I SUPPORT THIS PUD AND THAT IT GIVES US MORE CONTROL. I DO NOT SUPPORT APPROVING IT. NOW, I BELIEVE THAT MANY OF THESE CHANGES SHOULD GO BACK AND BE DISCUSSED IN AN OPEN FORUM, AS WAS SUGGESTED EARLIER, I COMMEND COUNCILWOMAN WHO ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL WATER AND ELECTRIC CONCERNS TO BE ADDRESSED. THERE ARE OTHER CONCERNS, HOWEVER, THAT ARE VERY SERIOUS. THE EXPERT, I BELIEVE, EXPERT BRANDON SCHUSSEL, WHO ELUCIDATED MANY OF THE DAMAGES THAT COULD OCCUR IF THIS WERE DEVELOPED, MENTIONED THAT SOUND PERMITTING RIGHT NOW IS NOT ADEQUATE AND THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE HEARING THE EQUIVALENT OF A TRAIN IN OUR HOMES AT ALL TIMES.
LIGHT POLLUTION HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED. WE YOU SAYING WE TRUST FPL? I'M NOT SO SURE I TRUST ANYONE RIGHT NOW. I'VE LOST THE SIGHT OF MY STARS DUE TO TALEGGIO AND IT'S NOT EVEN BUILT YET. I'M LIVING IN INDIAN WOOD. I ENJOY BEAUTIFUL STARS. THEY'RE NOT THERE ANYMORE. IT'S JUST A WHITE HORIZON WAY WELL INTO THE NIGHT. WE ALREADY HAVE LIGHT POLLUTION. I THINK THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS COULD BE ADDRESSED IN A WAY THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY, CAN UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS INVOLVED AND WHAT IS AT STAKE. THIS MUST BE TABLED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. I AM NOT CONVINCED BY OUR ATTORNEY THAT THIS IS COMPLETELY ILLEGAL. LEGAL SECTION 15. I HAVEN'T SAID BEFORE THAT I'M A PRINCETON GRADUATE, A UNIVERSITY SCHOLAR, AND I DID WORK THROUGH WITH THE WOODROW WILSON SCHOOL. AND TO ME, THE NOTION THAT A CITY WOULD. MAKE ITSELF SAFE AGAINST THE
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RESIDENTS WHO ARE BRINGING CONCERNS FORWARD AND ARE HAVE HAVE HAD TO RESEARCH THE LEGAL SYSTEM THAT YOU'RE GOING TO RELY ON THE FP AND L TO BE THE ADJUDICATOR. I'M READING HERE YOU'RE SAYING THAT FP L WON'T HAVE CONTROL. NOW, MAYBE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT I'M READING THE VILLAGE MUST CONSENT TO AND SUPPORT FP L'S INTERVENTION IN ANY SUIT AGAINST THE VILLAGE. NOW, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE THOUGHT ABOUT AND CONSIDERED. AND NOT TONIGHT. WE ALL HAVE PATIENCE, BUT ELECTIONS ARE COMING.THAT'S NOT A THREAT. BUT WE WANT TO HAVE A PART OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND UNDERSTAND IT BETTER. TO ME, IT IS AN AMERICAN, AS ERIC SAID, TO JUST PUSH THIS THROUGH IN THIS WAY WITH PRIVATE SECRET MEETINGS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AMANDA DEARMAN. HI, MY NAME IS AMANDA DEARMAN. I'VE BEEN AN RN FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS, THE LAST FIVE YEARS WORKING HERE IN DIRECTLY IN INDIANTOWN. I AM ALSO A LOCAL FARMER OUT OF CANADA. THIS TO TESORO GROVES PROJECT DOES DIRECTLY AFFECT MY HOUSE AND WHAT WE DO. WHEN I SEARCHED FOR MY HOME, I LOOKED FOR ATTRIBUTES OF. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT MY PROPERTY COULD BE AFFECTED? IS THERE PLACES THAT CAN BUILD. IS THERE A DATA CENTER THAT CAN COME. THESE WERE ALL KNOWS. WHEN I LOOKED, I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE CRIME RATES. I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE SAFETY RATES. THOSE WERE THE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DON'T HAVE A PHYSICAL REPORT, BUT I HAVE PHOTOS. I HAVE VIDEOS OF FLORIDA PANTHERS PLAYING ON THIS PROPERTY, TEACHING HER CUBS TO HUNT AND TRAIN AND SURVIVE YEAR AFTER YEAR. FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED THERE, THERE'S BALD EAGLES NEARLY EVERY DAY, NOT JUST PASSING THROUGH THERE.
THEY'RE THERE IN MY BACKYARD. THEY'RE ON THIS PROPERTY. THEY ARE. THIS IS THEIR ACTIVE BREEDING SEASON. I HAVE DOCUMENTED GOPHER TORTOISES. THERE'S DOLPHINS, BOTTLENOSE DOLPHINS IN THE RIVER AS WELL AS THE MANATEE. THE WILDLIFE ON TESORO GROVE IS REAL AND ACTIVE.
I WANT YOU TO TAKE A GOOD, HARD LOOK AT ME BECAUSE I AM A WALKING STATISTIC OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TAKE WILDLIFE AND THEIR HABITAT AWAY. WHEN LAST YEAR, NOT EVEN A YEAR AGO ON KANNER HIGHWAY, MY LIFE WAS ALMOST TAKEN FROM ME DUE TO WILDLIFE BEING PUSHED OUT. I SPENT MONTHS IN A HOSPITAL IN A REHAB, LEARNING TO WALK, LEARNING TO TALK, LOSING MY VISION, PART OF MY BRAIN. THIS IS ALL THINGS THAT HAVE AFFECTED ME. NOW LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS ABOUT THE SAME LAND. ON FEBRUARY 6TH, THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE ISSUED AN OFFICIAL REPORT FOR THIS PROJECT. THEIR WORDS, NOT MINE.
THERE ARE BALD EAGLES AND THERE ARE GOLDEN EAGLES IN YOUR PROJECT AREA. BREEDING SEASON IS ACTIVE RIGHT NOW. TONIGHT, FPL OWNS ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT. SAYS THE OPPOSITE.
NO KNOWN EAGLE NEST WITHIN A MILE. THOSE TWO STATEMENTS CANNOT BOTH BE TRUE, AND THIS COUNCIL IS BEING ASKED TO PERMANENTLY ALTER THIS 5722 ACRES. WHILE THAT CONTRADICTION SITS UNDISTURBED, THERE ARE ALSO TWO CRESTED CARACARA NESTS, FEDERALLY THREATENED. THERE'S THE FLORIDA BONNETED BAT THAT IF THIS INDUSTRIAL SITE DOES COME TO IT, THEY FLY BY SONAR.
HOW WILL THEY GET AROUND? THERE'S DOCUMENTED THOUSANDS. SO BEFORE THIS LAND WAS A PUD AGREEMENT OR AN AGENDA ITEM, IT BELONGED TO CREATURES THAT CANNOT SPEAK IN THIS ROOM. I LIVE ON THAT FENCE LINE AND I AM SPEAKING FOR THEM TONIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
CHRISTINA ESKER. MR. MAYOR, BEFORE I BEGIN, I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT TWO PETITIONS INTO THE OFFICIAL RECORD. WE HAVE GOTTEN 778 SIGNATURES, MOST OF THEM IN THE LAST TWO DAYS IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PUD, AT THE VERY LEAST, TO HAVE IT TABLED. NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO HAND THESE TO. YES.
THANK YOU. SO THAT'S EATING INTO MY TIME. YOU CAN DO IT AT THE END. GO AHEAD. OKAY. SO GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS CHRISTINA ESKER. I'M A RESIDENT OF PALM CITY FARMS ON MARKET STREET. I'M GOING TO READ YOU TWO WORDS FROM SECTION 12 OF THE AGREEMENT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. IF AND WHEN WASTEWATER SERVICES FOR THE PROJECT, IF AND WHEN REQUIRED, MAY BE PROVIDED BY A SEPTIC SYSTEM AT THE ELECTION OF SUCH OWNER AT THE ELECTION OF A FINAL. NO INDEPENDENT THRESHOLD, NO OUTSIDE AUTHORITY F, P AND L
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DECIDES WHETHER THAT OBLIGATION TRIGGERS AT ALL. AND IF THEY CHOOSE SEPTIC. FLORIDA SITS ON A POROUS LIMESTONE. THE U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY CALLS IT EXTREMELY VULNERABLE TO CONTAMINATION. CONTAMINANTS DON'T SEEP SLOWLY. THEY MOVE DIRECTLY INTO THE AQUIFER THROUGH CRACKS IN THE ROCK. NOW ADD DATA CENTER COOLING WATER BIOCIDES, CORROSION INHIBITORS, HEAVY METALS, ZERO MONITORING, NO PFAS LIMITS, WHICH ARE FOREVER CHEMICALS, NOT ONE CONTAMINANT THRESHOLD ANYWHERE IN THIS AGREEMENT. INDIAN TOWN HAS EIGHT DRINKING WELL WATERS DRAWING FROM THIS AQUIFER, YOUR STAFF SAID ON APRIL 16TH. WE ARE AT WATER CAPACITY. YOU CANNOT UNCONTAMINATED A POROUS LIMESTONE AQUIFER. ONCE IT IS IN, IT MOVES IN AND IT STAYS.NOW, MR. MAYOR, I NEED TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED TONIGHT AT THIS PODIUM. YOUR VILLAGE ATTORNEY TOLD THIS COUNCIL THAT SECTION 14 MAKES SB 484 APPLIED TO THIS AGREEMENT. THAT IS NOT ACCURATE, AND I AM ASKING THIS COUNCIL TO VERIFY IT BEFORE YOU VOTE. READ THE VERY FIRST LINE OF SECTION 14. IT SAYS, AND I'M QUOTING DIRECTLY FROM THE DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU, SUBJECT TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO SUBSECTION 2.3 ABOVE. NOW READ 2.3 DEVELOPMENT WILL BE GOVERNED BY LAWS AS THEY STAND ON THE EFFECTIVE DATE, WHICH IS TONIGHT. IF THIS IS APPROVED, SB 484 DOES NOT TAKE EFFECT UNTIL JULY 1ST. SECTION 14 IS EXPLICITLY SUBORDINATE. SECTION 2.3. YOUR ATTORNEY CITED HALF A SENTENCE AND ADMITTED THE HALF THAT CONTRADICTS HIS OWN ARGUMENT.
MR. MAYOR, BEFORE THIS COUNCIL VOTES, I AM RESPECTFULLY ASKING THAT YOU DIRECT THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY TO READ SECTION 2.3. THANK YOU, IVAN GARCIA. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MY NAME IS IVAN GARCIA AND I LIVE IN MARTIN COUNTY. ORIGINALLY, I WAS GOING TO COME HERE AND TALK ABOUT THE WATER AND TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE THE, THE DOWNSIDE OF THE DATA CENTER AND THIS AND THAT. BUT I COME FROM A CREDIT RISK ANALYTICS BACKGROUND. SO MY JOB IS LITERALLY TO CUT THROUGH THE NOISE AND LOOK FOR SIGNALS IN THE NUMBERS. AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE PATTERNS BEFORE THEY BECOME PROBLEMATIC. AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES LIKE WHEN IF YOU RUSH THROUGH, IF YOU RUSH THROUGH AN ANALYSIS, YOU CAN MAKE A VERY BIG MISTAKE, RIGHT? AND, YOU KNOW, BESIDES THIS BEING AN ELECTION YEAR AND THE MISTAKE YOU MAYBE YOU DO IS PERSONAL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DOESN'T HELP YOU GET REELECTED OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, BUT THE OTHER MISTAKE IS LIKE, LOOK, EVERYBODY AROUND YOU HERE DOES NOT WANT THIS, YOU KNOW, DON'T MAKE THAT MISTAKE. DON'T MAKE YOUR LEGACY BE SOMETHING WHERE, WHERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE GE GE RUINED THE HUDSON RIVER, RIGHT? AND THAT WAS A BIG MESS. RIGHT? AND SO, AND SO COME BACK TO THIS POD, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN DEVELOPMENT ALSO, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT CONTROLLED DEVELOPMENT, THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT. AND THIS IS KIND OF RUSHED THROUGH IN A WAY WHERE YOU HAVE TO REALLY, REALLY HAVE TO READ THIS WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB, YOU KNOW, AS CHRISTINA JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S SOME AMBIGUITY IN THE VERBIAGE, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T JUST, YOU CAN'T JUST OVERLOOK THAT BECAUSE IN A COURT OF LAW WHERE IT COUNTS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE END OF THE DAY. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN MY OPINION, IT SHOULD BE TABLED, SHOULD BE REVIEWED, AND WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB. AND JUST DON'T RUSH IT. YOU KNOW, LIKE THE WE'RE TRAINED, YOU KNOW, IN THE BANK THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE SCAMMERS TRY TO RUSH YOU THROUGH THROUGH, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE REALLY NEED YOU TO SIGN THIS SO YOU CAN GET THIS, GET THIS DONE, YOU KNOW, REALLY IT'S REALLY URGENT. THERE'S NO RUSH HERE, RIGHT? THIS IS THIS HAS LONG TERM CONSEQUENCES. OKAY, SO THAT'S IT. DON'T MESS IT UP. THANK YOU. MARY GRACE HOLLIS. GOOD EVENING. SORRY. MY NAME IS MARY GRACE HALUSKA. I AM A MULTI-GENERATIONAL RESIDENT OF MARTIN COUNTY. I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE TESORO GROVES PUD. THIS IS NOT A SMALL ADJUSTMENT. THIS IS A DECISION THAT AFFECTS MORE THAN 5700 ACRES OF LAND AND COULD SHAPE THE FUTURE OF INDIAN TOWN FOR DECADES. AND YET WE ARE BEING ASKED YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE IT WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT WILL BE BUILT, WHO WILL BUILD IT, OR WHAT TRUE IMPACT WILL BE. WE'VE HEARD
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POSSIBILITIES, DATA CENTERS, INDUSTRIAL USES, BUT NO FIRM COMMITMENTS. THAT MEANS THIS IS NOT AN APPROVING. THIS IS NOT APPROVING A PROJECT. YOU ARE APPROVING UNCERTAINTY. AND ONCE THE DOOR IS OPENED, IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT TO CLOSE. AT THE SAME TIME, WE KNOW THAT INDIAN TOWN DOES NOT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT MAJOR NEW DEVELOPMENT. THE VILLAGE HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THE WATER CAPACITY IS LIMITED, SO LIMITED THAT DEVELOPMENT HAS ALREADY HALTED IN SOME CASES. SO THE QUESTION BECOMES HOW CAN WE RESPONSIBLY EXPAND DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS WHEN WE CANNOT SUPPORT WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE? THIS IS ESPECIALLY CONCERNING GIVEN THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT BEING DISCUSSED. LARGE SCALE INDUSTRIAL USES, ESPECIALLY DATA CENTERS, REQUIRE ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF WATER AND ELECTRICITY. THAT PUTS DIRECT PRESSURE ON OUR WATER SUPPLY AND RAISES SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY.AND THAT BRINGS ME TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL RISKS. THIS PROPOSAL HAS THE POTENTIAL TO IMPACT OUR GROUNDWATER AND THE FLORIDIAN AQUIFER, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT WATER SOURCES IN OUR REGION. ONCE THAT KIND OF DAMAGE IS DONE, IT CANNOT BE EASILY REVERSED. WE SHOULD NOT BE TAKING THAT KIND OF RISK WITHOUT CLEAR PLANS, CLEAR SAFEGUARDS AND CLEAR ACCOUNTABILITY. THERE IS ALSO THE ISSUE OF TIMING. NEW STATE REGULATIONS ARE EXPECTED TO TAKE EFFECT SOON. THAT WOULD PROVIDE STRONGER PROTECTIONS AROUND WATER USE AND ENERGY DEMAND. APPROVING THIS CHANGE NOW COULD ALLOW FUTURE DEVELOPMENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THESE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE. THIS IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS COMMUNITY.
FINALLY, THE PROPOSAL RAISES A BIGGER QUESTION WHAT KIND OF TOWN DO WE WANT INDIAN TOWN TO BE? RESIDENTS HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THEY DO NOT WANT TO SEE THIS BECOME AN INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR. GROWTH IS IMPORTANT, BUT IT SHOULD BE THOUGHTFUL, SUSTAINABLE AND ALIGNED WITH THE COMMUNITY'S VISION. RIGHT NOW, THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT MEET THAT STANDARD. AT A MINIMUM, THIS DECISION SHOULD BE DELAYED UNTIL INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED.
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ARE FULLY UNDERSTOOD AND STRONGER PROTECTIONS ARE IN PLACE.
MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT THOSE THINGS IS A GAMBLE, AND IT'S A GAMBLE WITH OUR WATER, OUR ENVIRONMENT AND OUR FUTURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. LINDA BISCOE. LINDA CLEMENTSVILLE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS. FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE HERE ABOUT THE LANGUAGE IN THE POD AND ALLOWING YOU TO BUILD A DATA CENTER. THE INTENT? IT'S INTENTIONALLY VAGUE. THE STAFF CHANGED THE PUD BETWEEN LAST WEEK AND THIS WEEK. THEY ADDED A LITTLE STRONGER LANGUAGE REGARDING REZONING DOES NOT AUTHORIZE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THAT PART DOES NOT DOES NOTHING TO CHANGE THE BLANK CHECK. FPL WILL BE GIVEN TO BUILD WHATEVER THEY WANT AND THE VILLAGE STAFF WILL HELP IF YOU APPROVE. TONIGHT, THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS ADDED, WHICH IS VERY CONCERNING, IS A RISK ALLOCATION, LIABILITY COSTS AND LITIGATION CONTROL. SO IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES THIS TONIGHT, TONIGHT YOU'RE DONE WITH ANY SAY IN WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THAT PROPERTY. SO ANY OBJECTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC LAWSUITS THAT ARISE FROM ANYONE BUSINESSES, RESIDENTS, ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS, THE VILLAGE STAFF WILL DEFEND THAT PROJECT, IN ESSENCE SIDING WITH FPL AGAINST THE PEOPLE. THE OWNER, FPL CAN INTERVENE IN ANY CASE AGAINST ANYONE AND THE COUNCIL HAS NO SAY IN THE LITIGATION OR MAYBE A LITTLE SAY, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING THE SHOW. AND YOU'LL HAVE NO SAY IN THE EVENTUAL BUILD OUT. ONCE THEY START BUILDING OUT, IT IS ALL ON YOUR STAFF TO APPROVE FOR THEM. I'M GOING TO SKIP SOME OF THIS BECAUSE PEOPLE ALREADY WENT BY IT. SO AT THE PGA MEETING AT THE 109 MINUTE MARK, MISS MILLIE EXPLAINED ALL THE SHORTFALLS OF THE PUD AND LACK OF SAFEGUARDS AT THE 112 MINUTE MARK, MRS. WILLIAMSON ASKED IF EACH STEP WOULD. STEP WOULD COME BEFORE THE PGA BOARD AND THE COUNCIL AND MISS FREEMAN STATED FROM APPROVAL, ONCE IT'S DONE, IT'S. EVERYTHING'S DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY. AT THE 120 MINUTE MARK, MISS THOMAS ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION ON DATA CENTERS AND HYPERSCALE DATA CENTERS AND INFORMATION REGARDING SB 484. MR. VOSS PITTED A. PIVOTED BACK TO SB 180, STATING 484 WILL NOT TRUMP 180. HE HAS BEEN DISINGENUOUS, DISINGENUOUS BY ADMISSION, AS IT WILL NOT MATTER IF THE VILLAGE DOES NOT ACT ON STRENGTHENING THE ELDERS. SO
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WILL FPL ADHERE TO THE NEW STRENGTHENED ELDERS. WILL THE VILLAGE COMMIT TO STRENGTHENING ELDERS TO THESE LARGE LOAD CUSTOMERS? AND WHO'S GOING TO HAVE A PRIORITY IN AN EMERGENCY? THE VILLAGE RESIDENTS OR FPL? WHO GETS THE WATER? WHO GETS THE ELECTRICITY FIRST, THEM OR US? I'M SORRY. OKAY. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD DAY. LINDA SMITH. GOOD EVENING, LINDA SMITH, JUPITER, FLORIDA, REPRESENTING THE SIERRA CLUB, LOXAHATCHEE GROUP ALMOST 5000 MEMBERS AND SUPPORTERS IN MARTIN, SAINT LUCIE, PALM BEACH AND OKEECHOBEE COUNTIES. PLEASE LISTEN TO THE DISTRESS FROM THE INDIAN TOWN RESIDENTS. WHAT BENEFIT WILL YOUR RESIDENTS GET OUT OF THIS? CAN YOU DELETE THE WORDS DATA CENTER FROM ALL OF THIS? CAN YOU TABLE THIS? MANY COMMUNITIES HAVE RECENTLY BEEN CAUGHT OFF GUARD BY HYPER DATA CENTERS. CONSIDERING A 2,000,000 SQUARE FOOT IS NOT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. IT IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. HEAVY INDUSTRIAL REFERS TO LARGE. A LAND USE CLASSIFICATION THAT PERMITS LARGE SCALE, HIGH IMPACT MANUFACTURING, PROCESSING OR ENERGY RELATED OPERATIONS THAT GENERATES SIGNIFICANT NOISE, PARTICULARLY LOW FREQUENCY NOISE EMISSIONS, VIBRATIONS OR HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, AND THAT REQUIRE SUBSTANTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND SEPARATION FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS. LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS SMALLER SCALE MANUFACTURING, WAREHOUSING AND PROCESSING WITH MINIMAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. FACTS DATA CENTER FROM THE SCIENCE OF GEORGIA. YOU WANT TO FAX A 2,000,000 SQUARE FOOT IS A RESOURCE HUNGRY FACILITY, SOMETHING LIKE 8700MW, POSSIBLY GREATER THAN 16 BILLION GALLONS OF WATER PER YEAR. TYPICALLY, THERE'S ONLY A 24 CENT RETURN ON EVERY DOLLAR IN TAX CREDITS, AND AFTER CONSTRUCTION ONLY CREATES ABOUT 30 JOBS WATER, WATER, WATER, WATER. AS COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE DISCUSSED, WE ARE ALL IN THE SAME AQUIFER BOND MONEY FOR WATER DOES NOT CREATE WATER. I UNDERSTAND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF COOLING SYSTEM THIS DATA CENTER THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN IS GOING TO DO, BUT WHERE WILL THAT TOXIC WATER BE DUMPED? IF IT IS CREATED, WILL IT BE DRY COOLING? ARE THE RESIDENTS READY TO BE HOTTER ALL YEAR LONG? JUST LOOK AT THERMAL PHOTOS FROM EXISTING HYPER DATA CENTERS. THOUSAND FRIENDS OF FLORIDA'S LOOKS AT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ACROSS FLORIDA WITH SITE ISSUES AND WITH POWER AND WATER, AIR QUALITY, PROPERTY TAXES, TRAFFIC, AND MY FAVORITE LAND USE AND QUALITY OF LIFE. AND THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED WITH DATA CENTERS. THIS PROPOSAL WILL DISPLACE FARMING AND WILDLIFE HABITAT. PLEASE TABLE. THANK YOU. DAISY KROLL.GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. LET ME BEGIN BY SAYING I RESPECTFULLY ACCEPT YOUR OATHS OF OFFICE TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE AND THE COUNTRY, AND TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF MARTIN COUNTY AS PUBLIC SERVANTS. MY NAME IS DAISY SULLIVAN AND I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY OF OKEECHOBEE, WHICH WOULD UNDOUBTEDLY BE AFFECTED BY A ZONING PROPOSAL WHICH WOULD ALLOW DATA CENTERS TO BE BUILT IN INDIAN TOWN. I WOULD FIRST SAY THAT ON BEHALF OF THE MEN AND WOMEN, YOU HAVE MADE AN OATH TO SERVE, YOU ALL GO ON RECORD, EITHER HERE IN THIS ROOM NOW OR IN ANOTHER PUBLIC FORUM. CONFIRM THAT, CONFIRMING THAT YOU HAVE NOT MADE AND WILL NOT MAKE ANY NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS WITH ANY THIRD PARTIES WITH REGARDS TO THESE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES AND OR ANY DATA CENTERS FOR WHICH THEY PAVED THE WAY. IF YOU CANNOT OR WILL NOT DO THIS, IT CAN ONLY BE CONSTRUED AS TACIT ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT YOU'VE ALREADY MADE THOSE AGREEMENTS OR THAT YOU INTEND TO. AND I SUBMIT THAT WOULD BE A BETRAYAL OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT YOU'VE SWORN TO SERVE, UNETHICAL AND IMMORAL. YOU HAVE RECEIVED OR WILL RECEIVE A COPY OF AN AFFIDAVIT OF FACT THAT HAS BEEN SERVED OR WILL BE SERVED TO ON ALL OF YOU THROUGH THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE. THE AFFIDAVIT GIVES YOU FACTUAL INFORMATION OF HARMS THAT HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY DATA CENTERS AND INFORMATION OF
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OTHER POTENTIAL HARMS. THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED TO YOU TO HELP YOU MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION REGARDING THE REZONING PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU, WHICH WOULD OPEN THE DOOR TO ALLOW A DATA CENTER IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND ALSO TO REMOVE ALL PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY OF THE HARMS THAT THEY HAVE CAUSED ALREADY AND THE POTENTIAL HARMS THAT COULD BE CAUSED. IF YOU CAN PROVIDE PROOF THAT A DATA CENTER WILL BE HARMLESS TO THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, AND IF YOU CAN REBUT ANY OF THE EVIDENCE OF HARM IN THE AFFIDAVIT BEFORE YOU, THEN BY ALL MEANS GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE REZONING PROPOSAL. AS IT STANDS, THAT ALLOWS DATA CENTERS TO BE BUILT IN THIS COMMUNITY. HOWEVER, IF YOU CANNOT PROVIDE THAT PROOF, THEN YOU MUST ASK YOURSELF, ARE YOU EACH WILLING TO ACCEPT THE PERSONAL FINANCIAL LIABILITY FOR HARMS CAUSED TO MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN OF THIS COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES BY PROVIDING THE MEANS THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL, WHICH ALLOWS A DATA CENTER TO BE BUILT IN THIS COMMUNITY. THIS COMMUNITY HAS MADE ITS STANCE CLEAR. THE MAJORITY DO NOT WANT DATA CENTERS HERE IN INDIANTOWN. AS PUBLIC SERVANTS TO THIS COMMUNITY DO THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE YOU SWORE AN OATH TO SERVE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO PASS ANY REZONING PROPOSAL, PUT LANGUAGE IN THAT PROPOSAL THAT PROHIBITS DATA CENTERS FROM BEING BUILT IN THIS COMMUNITY. IF YOU DON'T, THEN IF ANY DATA CENTER DOES MOVE INTO INDIANTOWN AND CAUSE HARM TO THIS COMMUNITY OR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, THEN YOU COULD ONLY BE CONSIDERED COMPLICIT IN THOSE HARMS. WE ARE TOLD AI IS NECESSARY FOR OUR LIVES, THAT IT WILL TAKE ANYWHERE FROM 35 TO 70% OF OUR JOBS, THAT WE MUST PREPARE FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, FOR HIGH PAYING JOBS. IN THE FIELD OF AI PROGRAMING, HOWEVER, AI IS DEAD ENTITY. IT IS POWERED BY MEN AND WOMEN, AND WE HAVE THE POWER TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO TAKE. WE WANT IT TO TAKE OUR JOBS. IT IS SHORTSIGHTED TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD PREPARE A GENERATION OF YOUNG PEOPLE FOR HIGH PAYING JOBS, WHICH THEN TAKE OUR JOBS.THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HEARING ME. MARK SULLIVAN.
HI, MY NAME IS MARK SULLIVAN. I LIVE AT 1520 NORTHEAST 40TH AVENUE IN OKEECHOBEE, WHICH SHARED MANY WATER SOURCES WITH NEIGHBORING MARTIN COUNTY. AND YOU CAN TELL FROM OKEECHOBEE, BECAUSE I HAVE LOVEBUGS PLASTERED ALL OVER THE FRONT OF MY CAR. I ACCEPT YOUR OATHS OF OFFICE. FIRST OFF, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE INDIANTOWN PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO HAVE SPOKEN OUT AND VOTED AGAINST THIS OPEN ENDED REZONING. THAT IS CLEARLY A POWER GRAB TO PAVE THE WAY FOR FUTURE AI DATA CENTERS BEFORE STATE BILL SB TAKES EFFECT ON JULY 1ST. AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE COPIES BEFORE YOU HAVE A SWORN AFFIDAVIT OF FACTS DETAILING SOME OF THE KNOWN HARMS OF DATA CENTERS AND THEIR ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE. THE PURPOSE OF THIS DOCUMENT IS NOT TO HARASS OR ACCUSE, IT IS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH FACTS ON THE RECORD SO YOU CAN MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS GOING FORWARD. THERE CAN BE NO MORE PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY THAT AI DATA CENTERS CAN AND HAVE CAUSED GREAT HARM. THIS AFFIDAVIT WILL BE SERVED INDIVIDUALLY VIA THE USPS AND CAN BE USED AS EVIDENCE IN ANY FUTURE COURT PROCEEDINGS, SHOULD THE NEED ARISE. THE NEWLY REVISED PUD AGREEMENT CONTAINS CONTRACTUAL LANGUAGE, OBLIGATING INDIAN TOWNS PUBLIC SERVANTS TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND FPL'S POSITION. SHOULD ANY THIRD PARTIES. THAT MEANS ANYBODY, BY THE WAY, SUE THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. WHAT IT REALLY DOES IS IT PROTECTS YOU ALL BEHIND THE DESK AND HARMS ALL OF THESE PEOPLE OUT HERE, BECAUSE THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN IS SITTING BEHIND THAT DESK RIGHT NOW. TAKE NOTICE. THIS LEGAL LANGUAGE MAY NOT APPLY TO ANY INDIVIDUALS ACTING UNDER COLOR OF LAW WHO MAY CAUSE HARM TO ANYONE ELSE. THERE ARE MANY KNOWN HARMS ASSOCIATED WITH DATA CENTERS, ONLY A FEW OF WHICH ARE DETAILED IN THE AFOREMENTIONED AFFIDAVIT. I ALSO REMIND THE PUBLIC OFFICERS PRESENT OF FLORIDA'S SUNSHINE LAWS AIM TO, QUOTE, PREVENT THAT NONPUBLIC MEETINGS. THE CRYSTALLIZATION OF SECRET DECISIONS, END QUOTE, TO MAKE DECISIONS IN ANY EX PARTE MEETINGS WOULD BE A GROSS VIOLATION OF THE TRUST VESTED IN YOU BY THE PUBLIC. ALSO TAKE NOTICE. I REQUIRE YOU AS PUBLIC SERVANTS TO PUBLICLY DISCLOSE AND INDIVIDUALLY PROVIDE SWORN AFFIRMATIONS THAT YOU HAVE NOT AND WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY PAYMENT, GIFT, OR REMUNERATION FROM ANY INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY CONNECTED IN ANY WAY TO ANY AI DATA CENTER PROJECT IN THIS COUNTY.
I ALSO REQUIRE YOU TO PROVIDE SIMILAR PUBLIC NOTICE THAT YOU HAVE NOT AND WILL NOT EXECUTE ANY PERSONAL FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS BASED ON INFORMATION NOT MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC BY WAY OF PUBLISHED NOTICE. SUCH TRANSACTIONS INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO, REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS OR INVESTMENTS IN ANY ENTITY CONNECTED TO THIS PROJECT. LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHICH ONE OF YOU WILL BE TAKING FULL PERSONAL,
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FINANCIAL AND LEGAL LIABILITY FOR THE KNOWN HARMS ASSOCIATED WITH AI DATA CENTERS WHEN THEY COME HOME TO MARTIN COUNTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DONNA. CARMEN. GOOD EVENING. DONNA CARMEN, RESIDENT OF INDIANTOWN. I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR ALL YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. AND OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS, YOU'VE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME MEETING WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND THE PUBLIC AND ALL THE PROFESSIONALS WITHIN THIS ROOM, INCLUDING YOUR STAFF. PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE WORKING VERY HARD FOR YOU, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO TURN YOU IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. IT'S A LOT OF LEGAL INFORMATION IN ALL OF THIS PAPERWORK, AND YOU HAVE DONE YOUR HOMEWORK, AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT. BUT BEFORE I CONTINUE, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE LAST WEEK'S VOTE. SAY THANK YOU. THAT MEANT A LOT TO SEVERAL OF US WHO CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY AND WHERE IT'S HEADED. FROM WHERE I STAND, THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT MAKING SURE INDIAN TOWN HAS A CLEAR DIRECTION AND STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD, ONE THAT CREATES EXCITING AND LONG LASTING PROSPECTS FOR THE FUTURE WHILE STILL PROTECTING WHAT MAKES THIS PLACE SPECIAL AND WHAT MAKES THIS PLACE SPECIAL IS NOT JUST THE ACTUAL ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH WE LIVE, IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN VERY THOROUGH, AND IT'S GIVEN THE VILLAGE AND THE COMMUNITY A CHANCE TO STAY INVOLVED IN EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. AGAIN, YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF INFORMATION, AND I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMIND EVERYONE HOW MUCH FPL HAS BEEN PART OF THIS COMMUNITY OVER THE YEARS. IN THE EARLY 80S IS WHEN THEY BUILT THE PLANT. THEY'VE BEEN VERY PROTECTIVE OF IT. AND OUR COMMUNITY, THEY'VE BEEN A STRONG COMMUNITY PARTNER, AND THAT HAS NOT GONE UNNOTICED. I'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN INVESTMENT COMES INTO THE TOWN RIGHT AWAY, AND I'VE ALSO SEEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE LET OPPORTUNITIES PASS US BY. WE TALK A LOT ABOUT WHAT INDIANTOWN NEEDS, WHETHER IT'S MORE LOCAL JOBS, MORE BUSINESS OR EVERYTHING THAT'S LIKE GROCERY STORE, BETTER ACCESS TO AMENITIES, DOCTORS. THOSE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN WITHOUT TAKING STEPS FORWARD. WE HAVE ALL THE OTHER ISSUES WITH OUR WATER. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TALK ABOUT LETTING INDIANTOWN ABOLISH INDIANTOWN. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO INDIANTOWN IF WE ABOLISH THE VILLAGE? WHERE IS THAT WATER PLANT GOING TO GO? WHO'S GOING TO TAKE IT OVER? WHERE ARE WE GOING TO BE? I MEAN, THAT WAS NOT PLANNED TO BE IN THIS SUBJECT MATTER, BUT YOU GOTTA THINK ABOUT THE LONG TERM OBLIGATIONS THAT YOU TOOK ON WHEN YOU TOOK YOUR ROLE AS A AS A COUNCIL MEMBER. SO I JUST WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE. SO YES, MONEY IS A FACTOR.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE ALL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE STEPS FOR ME THAT IS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE NEXT GENERATION HAS A CHANCE TO STAY HERE, GROW THEIR FAMILIES, AND THRIVE IN INDIAN TOWN. I BELIEVE THIS HAS BEEN CAREFULLY CONSIDERED AND I SUPPORT MOVING THIS FORWARD. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO TAKE THIS FINAL STEP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO ASK, PLEASE, THAT WHILE INDIVIDUALS ARE DOING THEIR THREE MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT YOU ALLOW THEM TO GET THEIR THREE MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT, THEY'VE BEEN RESPECTFUL FOR THOSE OTHERS. AND I'M REQUESTING YOU DO THE SAME. CARLOS CABRAL. KATHY LAMONT. JUST WE JUST HAD INDIVIDUALS THAT LEFT. SO FOR THE BENEFIT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE NOT HERE. OKAY. SARAH JESSICA HERNANDEZ.
SORRY. IS THAT BETTER? OKAY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JESSICA HERNANDEZ AND I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF MARTIN COUNTY, CURRENTLY IN PALM CITY FARMS AND A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER. I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE LONG TERM IMPACT OF THIS PROPOSED REZONING FOR TESORO GROVES. I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS NOT ABOUT BEING AGAINST GROWTH, JOBS OR ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
IT'S ABOUT RESPONSIBLE GROWTH, PROPER PLANNING, AND MAKING SURE DEVELOPMENT ALIGNS WITH THE CHARACTER AND CAPACITY OF THE AREA. WHILE THIS PROPERTY IS NOW WITHIN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, THE IMPACTS OF THIS DECISION DO NOT STOP AT MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES. TRAFFIC, INFRASTRUCTURE DEMAND, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS EXTEND WELL INTO THE REST OF MARTIN COUNTY AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. THESE ARE REGIONAL IMPACTS THAT REQUIRE THOUGHTFUL PLANNING. THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT JUST ABOUT APPROVING A PROJECT TODAY, IT'S ABOUT SETTING THE FRAMEWORK FOR WHAT CAN BE BUILT IN THE FUTURE. AND ONCE THAT
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DOOR IS OPENED, IT BECOMES MUCH HARDER TO REVERSE THE COURSE. WE ARE ALREADY SEEING DISCUSSIONS AROUND HIGH INTENSITY USES. YES, INCLUDING DATA CENTERS, USES THAT BRING SIGNIFICANT CONSIDERATIONS RELATED TO NOISE, ENERGY DEMAND, WATER USAGE, INFRASTRUCTURE STRAIN. THESE ARE NOT MINOR IMPACTS. THEY ARE LONG TERM AND COMMUNITY WIDE. I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROPOSAL MAY BE CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LOCATED NEAR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. MY CONCERN IS NOT JUST WHETHER IT FITS ON PAPER, BUT WHETHER THE CURRENT FRAMEWORK IS TRULY PREPARED FOR DEVELOPMENT AT THIS SCALE, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE SEEING MULTIPLE LARGE SCALE CONCEPTS BEING DISCUSSED IN THIS AREA. WHAT'S CONCERNING IS THAT THE CURRENT FRAMEWORK DOES NOT APPEAR TO INCLUDE CLEAR, ENFORCEABLE STANDARDS TO ADDRESS IMPACTS AT THIS LEVEL, WHETHER THAT'S MEASURABLE NOISE LIMITS, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS, OR OPERATIONAL CONTROLS. WITHOUT THOSE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE, WE ARE RELYING ON ASSUMPTION RATHER THAN THE GUARANTEES. WHEN PROTECTIONS HAVE BEEN INCREASED DURING THE APPROVAL PROCESS. THAT SHOULD GIVE US PAUSE. IT SUGGESTS THERE ARE REAL UNCERTAINTIES AND RISKS THAT MAY NOT BE FULLY UNDERSTOOD YET. SORRY. THESE ARE SORRY. THERE ARE AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY PLANNED AND ZONED FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. THOSE AREAS EXIST FOR A REASON TO ENSURE HIGHER INTENSITY USES ARE PLACED WHERE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PLANNING ALREADY SUPPORT THEM. THIS DECISION IS NOT JUST ABOUT WHAT COULD BE BUILT TODAY, IT'S ABOUT WHAT THIS REZONING ALLOWS TOMORROW AND THE PRECEDENT IT SETS MOVING FORWARD. MANY OF US CHOOSE TO LIVE HERE BECAUSE OF WHAT'S CALLED THE MARTIN COUNTY DIFFERENCE, THOUGHTFUL GROWTH, ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, AND A COMMITMENT TO PRESERVING THE CHARACTER OF OUR COMMUNITY. THIS PROPOSAL FALLS SHORT OF THAT STANDARD, PARTICULARLY FOR A COMMUNITY LIKE INDIAN TOWN. GROWTH IS INEVITABLE, BUT UNPLANNED OR MISALIGNED GROWTH IS A CHOICE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU VOTE NO ON THIS REZONING REQUEST FOR NOW, BECAUSE ONCE THE STORE IS OPEN, IT WON'T JUST CHANGE THE PROPERTY, IT WILL CHANGE THE EXPECTATIONS FOR WHAT COMES NEXT. THANK YOU. JAMES. JAMES. NIEBLING. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JAMES NIEBLING AND I'M GRADUATING FROM NOVA SOUTHEASTERN UNIVERSITY THIS TUESDAY, MAY 5TH. INDIAN TOWN IS NOT JUST LAND, IT IS ONE OF THE LAST FUNCTIONING LINKS IN PRESERVING WHAT WE CALL IN LOVE AS OLD FLORIDA. TONIGHT I'M SPEAKING ON ORDINANCE TO REGARDING THE TESORO GROUP, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT. WHAT'S AT STAKE TODAY? INDIAN TOWN SERVES AS A VITAL ECOLOGICAL CORRIDOR LINKING THE WATER FLOW FROM LAKE OKEECHOBEE TO THE INDIAN RIVER AND THE INLET SYSTEM. THIS FLOW SUSTAINS WETLANDS, WILDLIFE HABITATS AND THE SALINITY BALANCES ESSENTIAL FOR AQUATIC LIFE. LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT ADEQUATE STUDIES RISKS DISRUPTING THIS LIFELINE, THREATENING BIODIVERSITY, WATER QUALITY AND THE HEALTH OF INTERCONNECTED ECOSYSTEMS FAR BEYOND THE TOWN ITSELF. THIS IS NOT JUST A LAND USE DECISION AT THIS SCALE. OVER 5000 ACRES. THIS IS A STRUCTURAL DECISION ABOUT THE LONG TERM IDENTITY CONTROL AND ECONOMIC TRAJECTORY OF INDIAN TOWN. A TOWN'S NAME, IMAGE AND CHARACTER ARE NOT ABSTRACT CONCEPTS. THEY ARE REAL ECONOMIC ASSETS THAT HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED AND FAILED TO BE RECOGNIZED BY DEVELOPERS AND COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY. THIS SUMMARY PRESENTS THE PUD AS CONSISTENT, COMPATIBLE, AND CONTROLLED, BUT THOSE CLAIMS ARE ASSERTED WITHOUT BEING PROVEN. IT RELIES ON BROAD LANGUAGE ALIGNMENT WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHILE IGNORING WHETHER A DEVELOPMENT AT THIS SCALE FUNDAMENTALLY ALTERS THAT PLAN. IT CALLS THE PROJECT COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES, YET FAILS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE MAGNITUDE OF INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL BUILDOUT WILL NOT BLEND WITH THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF INDIAN TOWN. IT WILL REPLACE IT. THE SO-CALLED CONTROL OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS FRONT LOADED AT APPROVAL, WHILE REAL IMPACTS ARE DEFERRED LATER TO LATER SITE PLAN REVIEWS WHEN MEANINGFUL OPPOSITION BECOMES FAR MORE LIMITED, OUR LAND RESOURCES IN MARIN COUNTY AND OUR GREAT COUNTRY HAVE BEEN IMPROPERLY INFLUENCED BY FLORIN, FLORIN ENTRENCHED INTERESTS AND CORPORATE SHAREHOLDERS AT THE COST OF THE LOCAL RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, WILDLIFE, WATER QUALITY, WATER QUANTITY AND THE LONG TERM ECONOMIC IMPACTS OF INDUSTRIALIZATION HAS ON WILDLIFE. THE SHORT TERM INTERESTS OF THE PROPOSAL ARE GREATLY OUTWEIGHED BY THE DEPRECIATION TO THE NAME, IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF INDIAN INDIAN TOWN WHICH DRIVE TOURISM, INFLUENCE LOCAL BUSINESS GROWTH, PROPERTY VALUES AND SHAPE HOW THE COMMUNITY IS PERCEIVED, MARKETED AND SUSTAINED OVER TIME. WHEN A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE IS APPROVED THROUGH THIS STRUCTURE, IT AUTHORIZES DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE TRULY DETRIMENTAL. IF THAT FRAME FRAMEWORK IS NOT CAREFULLY BALANCED, IT RISKS DILUTION AND TARNISHING THE IDENTITY OF THIS TOWN. AND ONCE THAT SHIFT OCCURS, IT IS NOT EASILY REVERSED. FUTURE COUNCILS AND RESIDENTS ARE OFTEN LEFT OPERATING WITH THE CONSTRAINTS THAT LIMIT THEIR ABILITY TO RECLAIM MEANINGFUL CONTROL. SO[02:40:02]
THE ISSUE HERE IS NOT SIMPLY WHETHER DEVELOPMENT SHOULD OCCUR, IT'S WHETHER THE STRUCTURE ADEQUATELY PROTECTS THE LONG TERM VALUE, INTEGRITY AND ECONOMIC POSITIONING OF INDIAN TOWN ITSELF, WHERE A DECISION OF THIS SCALE RISK DIMINISHING PUBLIC CONTROL. IT RAISES SERIOUS CONCERNS WHETHER THE FIDUCIARY OBLIGATION OBLIGATION OF THIS COMMUNITY IS SATISFIED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JENNIFER. CARMEN. SORRY, MY VOICE IS STILL GONE. GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JENNIFER LONGSHORE. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE INDIAN TOWN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND A LIFETIME RESIDENT OF INDIAN TOWN. FOURTH GENERATION, TO BE EXACT. AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE PUD REZONING. THAT IS REALLY WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA. NOT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT. EXCUSE ME. IT'S MY THREE MINUTES. IF YOU COULD PLEASE BE QUIET. I'D LIKE TO START BY RECOGNIZING THE VOTE YOU ALL MADE LAST WEEK. IT WAS AN IMPORTANT DECISION FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND SHOWED A COMMITMENT TO MOVING FORWARD IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY. THIS COMES DOWN TO WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO POSITION INDIAN TOWN FOR A STRONG FUTURE OR ALLOW OURSELVES TO FALL BEHIND. I WANT MY CHILDREN AND ALL OF OUR CHILDREN TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW UP HERE, STAY HERE AND BUILD A LIFE HERE THAT TAKES MORE THAN HOPE. IT TAKES ACTION AND IT TAKES INVESTMENT. RESPONSIBLE, WELL-PLANNED GROWTH IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE AFRAID OF. IT'S HOW COMMUNITIES STAY COMPETITIVE, HOW THEY ATTRACT OPPORTUNITIES, AND HOW THEY PROVIDE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY LIVE HERE. WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT REFLECTS A PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN THOUGHTFUL, STRUCTURED AND TRANSPARENT. IT ALLOWS THE VILLAGE TO STAY INVOLVED, SET EXPECTATIONS AND GUIDE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. THAT IS EXACTLY HOW GROWTH SHOULD HAPPEN IN A COMMUNITY LIKE OURS. WE CAN PROTECT WHAT MAKES INDIAN TOWN SPECIAL WHILE STILL MOVING FORWARD. THOSE TWO THINGS ARE NOT IN CONFLICT. THEY GO HAND IN HAND. THIS IS ABOUT CREATING A FUTURE WHERE BUSINESSES CAN GROW, FAMILIES CAN STAY, AND THE NEXT GENERATION HAS REAL OPPORTUNITY RIGHT HERE AT HOME. I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS, AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO TAKE THIS FINAL STEP TONIGHT. AND I'M GONNA GO OFF THE CUFF FOR A SECOND, WHICH SOMETIMES CAN BE DANGEROUS. BUT I'M AMAZED AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT, MOSTLY OUTSIDERS WHO PROBABLY NEVER SET FOOT IN INDIAN TOWN UNTIL TONIGHT. AND I'M CURIOUS AND I'M CURIOUS WHO'S GATHERING THEM? ARE THEY BEING PAID TO BE HERE? BECAUSE THAT IS A PROVEN THING THAT ACTIVISTS PAY PEOPLE TO COME SPEAK FOR THEM. I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE, BUT IT'S JUST FUNNY. I WISH I COULD HAVE SEEN THIS TYPE OF TURNOUT FOR THE COMMUNITY CLEANUP WE HAD TWO WEEKS AGO, OR THE NEXT ONE. FEEL FREE TO COME BACK TO INDIAN TOWN WHEN YOU WANT TO PUT INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST GET UP HERE ON YOUR SOAPBOX BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIVE HERE. WHAT HAPPENS HERE DOES NOT AFFECT YOU, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU WANT TO GET UP HERE AND SAY, IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN HERE, YOU DON'T LIVE HERE, PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE FUTURE OF INDIAN TOWN WE INCORPORATED SO THAT WE HAD INDEPENDENCE, SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO WHAT THE COAST WANTED US TO DO. THAT'S YOUR GOAL. AND YOUR MISSION AS A COUNCIL IS TO PROVIDE FOR THE FUTURE OF INDIAN TOWN. YES, RESIDENTS OPINIONS, MATTERS, RESIDENTS OPINIONS, NOT EVERYBODY ELSE, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT A DATA CENTER TONIGHT. BUT THAT'S ALL YOU KEEP HEARING. I SUPPORT THE PUD CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, SUPPORTS THE PUD. GOT MY FULL BOARD APPROVAL ON THAT. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LINDA SMITH. MYRA LANGE. PALMYRA. HI, MYRA LANGE. HOWDY, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS MIRA LANGE. I AM ONE OF THOSE KOOKY OUTSIDERS. I'VE COME UP FROM BROWARD COUNTY. I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING PREPARED BECAUSE I'M NOT I I'M NOT A ROBOT. I, I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT, WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, BUT I'M ONLY GOING TO WASTE, I GUESS, TWO MINUTES OF TIME TO, TO TRY TO SAY WHAT I CAN. I, I COME ON BEHALF SPEAKING ON BEHALF SORRY. HUMAN BRAIN. SOMETIMES THE WORDS DON'T COME OUT AS QUICKLY AS AS AI DOES. I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE WORDS. BUT ANYWAY, I, I LOVE THE FLORIDA TRAIL. THAT'S REALLY WHAT, WHAT I LOVE I, I GUESS I DO COME HERE AS AN OUTSIDER AND I TRY TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE LANDS THAT THE FLORIDA TRAIL HAS BEEN LIKE, REALLY A SAVING GRACE FOR ME IN A LOT OF WAYS OF MY LIFE. MAYBE THAT SOUNDS SILLY OR DRAMATIC OR WHATEVER, BUT THAT THAT'S REALLY ME SPEAKING GENUINELY. I WOULD LOVE TO GET MORE INVOLVED WITH WITH, WITH THE COMMUNITY. IT'S A BIT OF A BIT OF A JOURNEY. SO I DON'T WANT TO BE JUST ONE OF THOSE HIKERS WHO COMES AND PASSES THROUGH AND, AND RUNS AWAY. I, I REALLY, GENUINELY WANT TO BE MORE, MORE INVOLVED[02:45:04]
WITH CONTRIBUTING TO THIS PLACE BECAUSE IT'S JUST, IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL. IT'S, IT'S REALLY SO BEAUTIFUL HERE. SORRY. MY HEART'S SHAKING. OH, IT'S HARD NOT BEING ARTIFICIAL WITH THIS, THIS HEART THAT JUST SHAKES. YEAH. IT'S JUST SUCH A BEAUTIFUL AND SPECIAL PLACE HERE. AND, AND I REALLY JUST. I WANT IT TO BE AS BEAUTIFUL AND SPECIAL AS IT CAN BE. AND I GUESS I'M JUST ONE PERSON, SO I CAN'T DO ALL THAT. I GUESS WE GOTTA TRY TO DO IT TOGETHER. SO THAT'S THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. I, I, I DON'T WANT TO IMPOSE ANY FAITH. I'M INTERFAITH, BUT I REALLY JUST, I HOPE AND PRAY THAT THAT WE CAN ALL JUST, JUST KEEP THIS PLACE REALLY, REALLY BEAUTIFUL AND SPECIAL AND, AND JUST WHATEVER WAYS EACH PERSON CAN DO INDIVIDUALLY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. GOD BLESS YOU. THANK YOU, LINDA SMITH. LINDA SMITH. AND WHILE I'M NOT FROM INDIANTOWN, I'M FROM HOBE SOUND, FLORIDA. I AM A MEMBER OF MARTIN. THE MICROPHONE PLEASE. IS THAT BETTER? YES, THAT IS BETTER.LINDA SMITH AND WHILE I'M NOT A RESIDENT OF INDIANTOWN, I AM A RESIDENT OF HOBE SOUND, FLORIDA, WHICH IS IN MARTIN COUNTY AND A DATA CENTER OF THIS SIZE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO AFFECT EVERYBODY THAT LIVES IN THE COUNTY. I UNDERSTAND THIS VOTE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS NOT AN EXPLICIT VOTE EXACTLY FOR OR AGAINST THE DATA CENTER. RATHER, IT'S A VOTE SIMPLY FOR REZONING OF PROPERTY. YOU MAY HAVE BEEN LED TO BELIEVE THAT A SIMPLE REZONING VOTE IS FAIRLY BENIGN.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO INSTEAD UNDERSTAND THAT VOTING TO SUPPORT THE REZONING CHANGE OPENS THE FLOODGATES ON THE PATH TO FULLY ALLOW THE DATA CENTER. AND ONCE FLOODGATES ARE OPEN, IT'S VERY TOUGH. UPSTREAM BATTLE TO CLOSE THEM. APPROVING THE PUD DOES NOT ALLOW MORE TIME TO NEGOTIATE THE DETAILS. IT PAVES THE WAY FOR THE PROJECT TO STEAMROLL FORWARD WITH MORE MOMENTUM. PUSHING THIS VOTE BACK IS WHAT ALLOWS MORE TIME TO NEGOTIATE THE DETAILS. YOU MUST UNDERSTAND TONIGHT THAT YOUR VOTE IS NOT BENIGN. IT COULD ACTUALLY BE AS IMPORTANT AS ANY FUTURE FINAL VOTE ON THE DATA CENTER. SB 44 IS NOT BEING VOTED ON UNTIL JULY 1ST. IT DOES NOT ESCAPE YOUR YOUR CONSTITUENCY. WHY THIS VOTE? AND I'M NOT YOUR DIRECT CONSTITUENCY, BUT I'VE SPOKEN WITH THEM. IT DOES NOT ESCAPE THEM THAT THIS VOTE IS BEING PUT FORTH AT THIS POINT IN TIME. PRIOR TO THAT VOTE. I COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR LINE OF QUESTIONING, FOLLOWING THE RESPONSE OF THE GENTLEMAN TO YOUR LINE OF QUESTIONING ABOUT SB 44 EARLIER TONIGHT. IF THIS VOTE IS PUSHED BACK TO JULY 1ST OR AFTER JULY 1ST TO ALLOW FOR THE GREATER PROTECTIONS OR BETTER YET, VOTE FOR NO FOR THE REZONING AT ALL, IT WILL SHOW YOUR INDIAN TOWN CONSTITUENCY THAT YOU ARE WORKING FOR THEM. DON'T FORGET YOU HAVE ANOTHER 38 CITIZENS IN THE ROOM ACROSS THE HALL HERE, STILL AT ALMOST 915 AT NIGHT. I LEAVE YOU WITH THIS FINAL QUESTION. WHAT IS THE BENEFIT THAT ANY CITIZEN OF MARTIN COUNTY OR INDIAN TOWN RECEIVES FROM THIS PROJECT? THAT IS A REAL QUESTION OF. THE MANY SPEAKERS TONIGHT HAVE NOT HEARD OF ONE PERSON STATED A TANGIBLE BENEFIT TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY ON THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, JOSH. KELLEN. WELCOME, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I KNOW IT'S LATE. I SPOKE LAST WEEK AND TO SPEAK AGAIN ON BEHALF OF TRUSTED PARTNER OF INDIANTOWN, SOMEBODY THAT HAS BEEN TO INDIANTOWN A VERY LONG TIME, SOMEBODY THAT HAS STOOD BESIDE INDIANTOWN LONG BEFORE INCORPORATION AS A LANDOWNER HERE IN INDIANTOWN. YOU ALL KNOW MY HEART OF INDIANTOWN. YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THAT PLAY OUT IN WHAT WE HAVE DONE HERE IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. AND AS YOU ALL REVIEW ITEMS THAT COME FORWARD, I KNOW THAT YOU LOOK AT WHO THEY ARE, WHAT THEY ARE, AND WHAT THEY MEAN TO THE VILLAGE. AND YOU GUYS HAVE PROVEN THAT OUT AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE. I ASK YOU TONIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD. THE VOTE ON THE PUD AMENDMENT, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE A TRUSTED PARTNER THAT HAS DELIVERED FOR THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN AND IS BEING BROUGHT BEFORE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BRING FIRST CLASS OPERATIONS TO WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY DO. THEY DO IT AT A STANDARD THAT IS A HIGH LEVEL OF EXCELLENCE, AND THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT WE WANT TO HAVE IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. SO I THANK YOU ALL. WON'T TAKE MY WHOLE THREE MINUTES. ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THE PUD TONIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAGALI. GOOD AFTERNOON GUYS. I'VE BEEN A
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RESIDENT SINCE 25 YEARS. MY PARENTS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 40 YEARS. MANY HAVE BEEN ARE NOT FROM HERE. MANY OF YOU GUYS DON'T LIVE IN INDIANTOWN IN THE SEA. I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT WHEN YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WATER MANAGEMENT AND HOW YOU GUYS MOVED IT TO BERGER PARK, WHICH I LIVE IN, YOU GUYS WERE GOING TO SAY IT WAS QUIET. IT IS NOT AT NIGHT. I LIVE EIGHT BLOCKS AWAY. I COULD STILL HEAR IT FROM 10 P.M. ONWARD. IMAGINE THE DATA CENTER.YOU GUYS LIED ABOUT THE WATER MANAGEMENT, WHICH WE DO NEED, I DO UNDERSTAND, BUT WE BARELY EVEN HAVE WATER. WHY THE DATA CENTER WHEN YOU GUYS DON'T EVEN PRIORITIZE YOUR CITIZENS THAT HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE FOR 20 PLUS AND 40 YEARS, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE WATER? WHERE IS IT GOING TO AFFECT THE OKEECHOBEE RUN INS? WE GET THE ALGAE BLOOMS, WE GET THE EFFECTS, THE ENVIRONMENT, THE FISHES. SO MANY PEOPLE, AS YOU CAN SEE, IF YOU CROSS CITRUS, IF YOU GO ON CANNER, SO MANY PEOPLE FISH AND THEY DO EAT THE FISH. IMAGINE WHENEVER THE DATA CENTER DISCARDS WHERE YOU GUYS SAY, YOU GUYS AREN'T SURE OF WHERE IT'S GOING TO LAND. AND OF COURSE IT'S GOING TO LAND IN THE WATER, IN THE SOIL. SAME THING FOR THE CITRUS GROVES.
BACK THEN, PESTICIDES WITH THE HALF LIFE THAT THEY HAD ARE STILL IN THE SOIL AND IN TOWN WITH THE LOUIS DREYFUS HAD 20 YEARS BACK THEN. NOW IT DOES. NOW LOUIS DREYFUS IS GONE.
PEOPLE WERE LAID OFF, JOBS WERE RUINED. AND NOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE DATA CENTER IS GOING TO BRING IN JOBS? NO, IT'S GOING TO BRING IN JOBS FOR TEN YEARS AFTERWARDS, ONCE THE WATER RUNS OUT FROM THE RESIDENTS, BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO PRIORITIZE THE DATA CENTER FIRST, NOT EVEN THE RESIDENTS. ONCE THAT WATER RUNS OUT, THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO RELOCATE. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE CITIZENS HERE, THE RESIDENTS, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET THE WATER? WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE LAND? HOW ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO REDEVELOP THE LAND? YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO PLAN TO PUT HOUSES. HOW? WITH ALL THE TOXIC MATERIALS ALREADY IN THE SOIL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. KEVIN POWERS. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. I'LL BE BRIEF. I WANT TO START BY THANKING EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY, AND CONTINUE TO DO YOUR THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION LAST WEEK OF YOUR DECISION AND YOUR THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION THIS WEEK OF YOUR DECISION.
JENNIFER. CARMEN, YOU KIND OF HID IT. I WANT TO COME ON THAT AND JUST SAY, WELCOME TO ALL OF THE NEW SUPPORTERS OF INDIANTOWN, A LOT OF FAMILIAR FACES THAT ARE HERE. I INVITE THEM TO COME BACK AND LEARN MORE ABOUT OUR RICH HISTORY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT MAKES INDIANTOWN INDIAN TOWN. AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU WILL DISCOVER REAL QUICKLY THAT OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS, INDIANTOWN HAS HAD A PARTNER, AN ECONOMIC PARTNER THAT HAS STOOD BY INDIANTOWN, INVESTED IN INDIAN TOWN AND SUPPORTED INDIAN TOWN THROUGH AND THROUGH. WHEN EACH AND EVERY CITRUS GROVE THAT WE KNOW WENT UNDER WENT OUT F, P AND L IS A COMMUNITY PARTNER.
WAS THERE CONTINUING TO DO WHAT THEY DO WHEN THE CITRUS PROCESSING PLANT CLOSED DOWN F, P AND L WAS THERE. CONTINUING TO DO WHAT THEY DO WHEN FLORIDA STEEL CLOSED DOWN AND THEY WENT AWAY F P AND L WAS STILL HERE DOING WHAT THEY HAD TO DO. SO MUCH OF WHAT YOU HEARD THIS EVENING WAS HYPOTHETICALS. WHAT COULD GO WRONG, WHAT COULD GO WRONG? AND IF WE LIVED OUR LIVES, WE WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING. WE WOULDN'T LEAVE OUR HOUSES. WE WOULDN'T DO. WE WOULD DO NOTHING. INDIAN TOWN, UNDER THIS LEADERSHIP, HAS THE COURAGE TO UNDERSTAND THERE IS A BRIGHT FUTURE FOR INDIAN TOWN. THERE IS A LOT OF GREAT THINGS GOING ON, AND WE CAN'T LET HYPOTHETICALS RUN US OFF AND SCARE US FROM WHAT OUR PATH IS ALL ABOUT. WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE WATER. WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL OF THE ISSUES, BUT WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE WATER.
AND IT'S IRONIC THAT ONE OF THE FORMER VICE CHAIR OF THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IS HERE, MR. BRANDON TUCKER, AND I, TOO, HAD THE PRIVILEGE, IRONICALLY, TO SERVE AS THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE GOVERNING BOARD OF THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT UNDER THE PREVIOUS TWO GOVERNORS FOR EIGHT YEARS. THAT AGENCY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 9 MILLION PEOPLE'S WATER. IT GOES FROM WALT DISNEY WORLD TO FLORIDA BAY. IT INCLUDES THE LARGEST UTILITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THE CITY OF MIAMI. IT'S NOT A GUESS. IT'S NOT A MAYBE THEY ASSURE AND GUARANTEE YOU DON'T JUST HAVE WATER TOMORROW. YOU HAVE WATER. EVERY TIME YOU TURN THAT TAP ON FROM NOW UNTIL THEN. AND THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE. THERE'S BEEN SO MANY ABOUT SO MANY OTHER THINGS. BUT I LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, MY GOODNESS, WATER IS PROBABLY THE
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LEAST THING THAT NEEDS TO BE A CONCERN HERE. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY PARTNER THAT STOOD BY INDIAN TOWN THROUGH THICK AND THIN, AND I FULLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS PUD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT MAYOR. THAT'S IT. OKAY. DO WE HAVE WAIT, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS? I GOT A COUPLE THINGS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MAYOR. LET ME GO AHEAD AND BRING UP SOME LANGUAGE. I'M GOING TO THROW IT UP ON THE TV IF I CAN MAKE THIS WORK. RIGHT, GIVE ME JUST A SECOND. SO I'VE GOT TWO DOCUMENTS HERE TO SHOW YOU. THREE PIECES. AND ACTUALLY BEFORE I DO THAT, THERE WAS SOMETHING MENTIONED, FOLKS QUOTING SECTION 2.3 OF THE PUD ZONING AGREEMENT. I THINK I READ IT BEFORE OR READ MOST OF BEFORE. I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND READ IT AGAIN. IT'S VERY SHORT. SECTION 2.3. EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED HEREIN, DEVELOPMENT UNDER THIS AGREEMENT SHALL BE GOVERNED AND THE FINAL SITE PLANS AND SUBDIVISION PLAT SHALL BE APPROVED BY THE VILLAGE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SUCH LOCAL LAWS, ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS AS ARE IN EFFECT ON THE EFFECTIVE DATE HEREOF. UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN I HEARD THAT READ BEFORE, THAT WORD, I THINK INADVERTENTLY DROPPED OFF. THAT WORD IS EXCEEDINGLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT DRAWS A VERY STRONG DISTINCTION BETWEEN OUR LOCAL LAWS AND ORDINANCES AND STATE AND FEDERAL LAW, AS IS NOTED IN THE OTHER PART. SO WITH THAT, AND ACTUALLY COMES BACK TO PARAGRAPH 14 AND 15, HAPPEN TO BE NEAR EACH OTHER. SO I WAS ABLE TO HAVE BOTH. I'LL SHOW YOU FIRST IN PARAGRAPH 15. VERY SIMPLE CHANGE 1 MILLION TO 5 MILLION THERE UP HERE IN 14. THIS ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE I HAVE WORKED OUT HERE WORKS TOGETHER WITH THE OTHER LANGUAGE I'M ABOUT TO BRING UP ABOUT WATER AND WASTEWATER. ALL RIGHT, SO WE GOT TWO THINGS GOING ON HERE WITH REGARD TO COUNCIL MEMBER CONCERN ABOUT THE PROTECTIONS RELATING TO ELECTRICAL SERVICE RATES AND PERMITTING FOR WATER USAGE UNDER 484 AND THE NEW UNDER UNDER 44, THAT IS GOING TO BE GOING BEFORE THE GOVERNOR SOON FOR SIGNATURE. SO AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, TO TO COPY AND PASTE THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE FROM THOSE PIECES INTO HERE, THE THING TO KEEP IN MIND AS A AS A VERY DISCRETE MATTER, EACH OF THOSE PIECES OF 44 ARE ACTUALLY REGULATIONS ON THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, AND THE FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION. IT SETS UP NEW REGIMES FOR THAT PARTICULAR, STRICTER STANDARDS THAT THOSE AGENCIES HAVE TO APPLY. OKAY, SO WE CAN'T PUT INTO OUR PUD AGREEMENT AND SAY, SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, YOU GOT TO DO THESE THINGS THAT WE THREW INTO THIS THING. SO WE JUST WANTED TO PUT IT IN HERE VERY CLEARLY.CRYSTAL CLEARLY HERE, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, THIS THIS REFERENCE TO FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS AS THEY'RE AMENDED FROM TIME TO TIME, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, THOSE RELATING TO ELECTRICAL SERVICE RATES. AND I WILL NOTE, BY THE WAY, YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM FPL THAT THEIR TARIFF, THEIR RATE STRUCTURE HAS ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THINGS WITH THE FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION, SUCH THAT IT'S BEEN STRUCTURED IN THE MANNER YOU SEE IN THE LAW ALREADY, BUT REFERENCES THAT, AND THEN ALSO HAVE A SPECIFIC REFERENCE FOR PERMITTING FOR WATER USAGE BY THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. ALL RIGHT. SO VERY SPECIFIC, CLEAR REFERENCE THERE THAT THOSE ARE GOING TO BE APPLICABLE. THE OTHER PIECE I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU IS THE FOLLOWING. PLEASE GIVE ME JUST ONE MORE SECOND. THIS IS. IN EXHIBIT F, THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS, PARAGRAPH 12, WATER AND WASTEWATER. OKAY. LET ME WALK YOU THROUGH IT VERY QUICKLY. IT'S A BIG BLOCK OF TEXT, BUT FORTUNATELY A LOT OF IT IS STANDARD STUFF FOR THE VILLAGE. SO THIS LANGUAGE UP HERE, WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES FOR EACH PHASE OF THE PROJECT SHALL BE PROVIDED BY THE VILLAGE, SUBJECT TO AVAILABLE CAPACITY AND SUBJECT TO A WATER WASTEWATER DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT WITH THE VILLAGE IN ITS CAPACITY AS WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICE PROVIDER, THE WATER WASTEWATER DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT SHALL IDENTIFY ALL NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION LINE AND OTHER FACILITIES NEEDED FOR SERVICING THE PROJECT, AS WELL AS COSTS AND FEES SUCH AS CAPITAL CONNECTION FEES RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.
THERE'S MORE STUFF ABOUT MONEY IN A SEQ. WE'LL GET DOWN TO THAT. THIS LANGUAGE WOULD BE
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FAMILIAR FOR ANYBODY IN THE ROOM WHO'S DONE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS LANGUAGE WE HAVE IN OTHER ZONING AGREEMENTS OR AMENDMENTS TO PUD ZONING AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE VILLAGE. OKAY. THIS LANGUAGE RIGHT HERE. DEALS WITH THE TEMPORARY MATTER THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, AND WE MADE IT EXCEEDINGLY CLEAR THAT IT IS TEMPORARY. SO THIS IS LANGUAGE THAT WAS IN THE PRIOR VERSION. ALL RIGHT. WITH SOME ADDITIONS TO MAKE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT IT'S IT'S TEMPORARY. IN THE EVENT THE VILLAGE CANNOT PROVIDE WASTEWATER SERVICE TO A PHASE OF THE PROJECT UPON THE PHASES ANTICIPATED COMPLETION DUE TO LACK OF AVAILABLE CAPACITY, WASTEWATER SERVICE FOR SUCH PHASE OF THE PROJECT, IF REQUIRED, MAY BE TEMPORARILY PROVIDED BY A SEPTIC SYSTEM OR ON SITE PACKAGE. PLANT OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE OWNER OF SUCH PHASE OF THE PROJECT AT THE ELECTION OF SUCH OWNER. UNTIL SUCH TIME, THERE IS NO LONGER A LACK OF AVAILABLE CAPACITY. ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS DEALING WITH A TEMPORARY CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THERE'S A LACK OF TEMPORARY, TEMPORARY LACK OF AVAILABLE CAPACITY, AND THEN THE REQUIREMENT TO CONNECT WOULD KICK IN. SAME THING WITH REGARD TO WATER SERVICE. IN THE EVENT, VILLAGE CANNOT PROVIDE WATER SERVICE TO A PHASE OF THE PROJECT UPON THE PHASES ANTICIPATED COMPLETION DUE TO THE LACK OF AVAILABLE CAPACITY WATER SERVICE FOR SUCH PHASE OF THE PROJECT, IF AND WHEN REQUIRED, MAYBE TEMPORARILY PROVIDED BY A PRIVATE WITHDRAWAL FACILITY OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE OWNER OF SUCH PHASE OF THE PROJECT AT THE ELECTION OF SUCH OWNER. UNTIL SUCH TIME, THERE'S NO LONGER A LACK OF AVAILABLE CAPACITY. SO SAME THING HAVE TO CONNECT IN THE NEXT PARAGRAPH IS STUFF YOU SAW IN THE PRIOR VERSION OF THE AGREEMENT. THIS IS ALL HYPER TECHNICAL STUFF THAT I THREW IN JUST TO COVER THE VILLAGE. THIS JUST SAYS THAT BY ALLOWING THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN WITH THEM HAVING, YOU KNOW, HAVE PULLING WATER OUT OR HAVING A PACKAGE PLANT OR SOMETHING, WE ARE NOT CONSENTING TO THEM SETTING UP THEIR OWN PRIVATE WATER OR WASTEWATER UTILITY. THAT'S TO PROTECT THE VILLAGE'S WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITY. AND OUR UTILITY SERVICE AREA THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED EVERYTHING HERE. SO THAT'S TECHNICAL STUFF THERE TO PROTECT IT IN THAT INSTANCE.SAME LANGUAGE AS BEFORE, UTILITY USES. SO VERY CLEAR UTILITY USES OWNED BY UTILITY REGULATED BY THE FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION, SHALL NOT BE REQUIRED TO CONNECT TO WATER OR WASTEWATER SERVICE. THAT WAS LANGUAGE IN THERE BEFORE. THIS IS RELATING TO A FACILITY LIKE A SUBSTATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT MAY BE ON THE PROPERTY. IT DOES NOT APPLY TO ANY USE ON THERE. THAT IS NOT A UTILITY USE OWNED BY A FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION REGULATED UTILITY. FINALLY, AT THE TIME OF FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL, RESERVATION AND OR PRE RESERVATION OF WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY FOR ANY USE REQUIRING SUCH SERVICE SHALL BE DEMONSTRATED BY THE APPLICANT. AS THE COUNCIL WILL RECALL, WITH OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH, WE HAVE RESERVATION OF WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY THROUGH WATER AND WASTEWATER DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT AS REFERENCED HERE, AND THAT INVOLVES THE PREPAYMENT OF CAPITAL CAPACITY CHARGES, THE WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPITAL CONNECTION CHARGES OR CAPACITY CHARGES. BASICALLY, OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES, WHAT WE USED TO CALL THEM. AND THEN, AS YOU RECALL, ALSO THE PAYING OF. RECURRING GUARANTEED REVENUE WHEN THINGS ARE TIED UP, JUST AS WE HAVE FOR ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT. ALL RIGHT. THAT IS IN ADDITION, AS IS REFERENCED UP HERE, TO NOT JUST THE COST TO RESERVE CAPACITY, BUT ALSO THE COST FOR INFRASTRUCTURE TO CONNECT. OKAY. AND THAT IF YOU RECALL FROM THOSE AGREEMENTS THAT WE USED BEFORE, IT IS IT LAYS OUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY TO CONNECT. AND IT'S A COMMITMENT EITHER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD IT, OR THE VILLAGE IS GOING TO ENGAGE SOMEONE TO BUILD IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT. SO THAT'S HOW THAT WORKS IN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, AS WE HAVE HAD THEM COME THROUGH BEFORE IN THE VILLAGE. QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. IS THERE ANYTHING ILLEGAL OR UNETHICAL ABOUT THESE CHANGES BEING MADE TONIGHT AND NOT GOING BACK THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF PRS? OR IS THIS A PRETTY STANDARD CHANGES THAT HAPPEN, BUT THIS THIS WOULD BE A VERY STANDARD CHANGE AND IT IS RESPONSIVE. JUST MAKE THIS POINT. IT IS THE REASON WHY WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS. IT IS THE REASON WHY WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS IS FOR THE COUNCIL TO TAKE INPUT, LOOK INTO MATTERS, AND THEN AS THINGS DEVELOP, LISTEN TO LISTEN TO FOLKS SPEAKING TO THINGS TO SAY, WELL, I THINK WE NEED THIS TWEAK. I THINK WE NEED THAT TWEAK AND SO ON. SO IT IS NOT JUST CONTEMPLATED. IT IS IT'S ONE OF THE VERY PURPOSES OF HAVING HEARINGS TO GET THAT INPUT. SO YOU MAKE CHANGES AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS. ANOTHER QUESTION. WILL THEY, IF THEY'RE USING A
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PRIVATE WELL FOR A TEMPORARY TIME, STILL BE REQUIRED TO GET THE CONSUMPTION USE PERMITTING THROUGH THEIR DISTRICT? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THE SOUTH FLORIDA ONE, AS YOU'VE HEARD ALLUDED TO, GENERALLY FOR FOLKS WHO'VE BEEN INVOLVED, CLARIFY THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT WATCHES, NOT JUST WATCHES ALL THAT LIKE A HAWK. THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IS GOING TO BE EXCEEDINGLY INVOLVED IN ANYTHING GOING ON, ON ANY PIECE OF PROPERTY, OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE, NOT JUST WITH REGARD TO WATER COMING FROM SOMEWHERE, BUT STORMWATER AS WELL, AND SO ON. SO THERE WILL NOT BE A WELL, YOU KNOW, SOUTH FLORIDA DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS. OKAY. I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ALSO THAT IT SEEMS THAT SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE TONIGHT WERE CONFUSING AND GROUPING SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT ON FACEBOOK, THIS PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR, I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR TO THE AUDIENCE, HAS BEEN IN USE FOR SUGAR CANE AND OTHER THINGS AND HAS BEEN BEING BURNED AND REUSED AND REPLANTED FOR YEARS. THIS IS NOT AN ANIMAL PRESERVE.THERE ARE NO KNOWN EAGLE NESTS ON THIS PROPERTY THAT THAT WE'VE HEARD OF. THAT'S THE OTHER PROPERTY. SO WE ARE NOT THE DISTURBANCE WITH THE ANIMALS. YOU'RE NOT. I DON'T THINK WE'VE SEEN A REPORT TO THAT EFFECT ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. IF WE HAVE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO EVERYONE THAT IF THERE IS SUCH A REPORT AND THERE ARE WILDLIFE, THERE ARE WILDLIFE PROTECTIONS THAT WILL BE IN PLACE BASED ON, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REGULATORY WOULD BE, WHAT FLORIDA WILDLIFE. YEAH. BUT THE OTHER THING TOO, IS A LOT OF YOU GUYS GOT UP HERE AND SPOKE ABOUT WANTING CONTROL. SOMETHING CONTROLLED, GROWTH CONTROLLED. WELL, STRAIGHT ZONING DOESN'T GIVE YOU THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO THEIR PROPERTY. THEY OWN IT. WE CAN'T TELL THEM NOT TO USE IT. ALL WE CAN DO IS TELL THEM HOW WE'D LIKE FOR THEM TO USE IT, AND THEY'VE AGREED TO DO A CONTROLLED PUD, WHICH GIVES US MORE CONTROL ON EACH STEP. THEY'VE ALSO AGREED TO PUT IN THE VERBIAGE THAT PROTECTS US A LITTLE BIT BETTER. I THINK WE ALL NEED TO STOP FIGHTING AND START TRYING TO MEDIATE. AS I TELL MY PEOPLE WHEN I DO MEDIATIONS, YOU'RE. WE'RE ALL GOING TO LEAVE DISSATISFIED EQUALLY. AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO ENSURE A GOOD MEDIATION IS EVERYBODY LEAVES FEELING LIKE THEY HAD TO GIVE UP SOMETHING. BUT THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT AT THE END. THE HYSTERIA HAS GOT TO STOP. THE. THE CONFUSION HAS GOT TO STOP. WE'VE GOT TO WORK TOWARDS THE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY VITAL TO OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH I THINK WE ARE ADDRESSING TONIGHT. AND I THINK THAT FPNL HAS ADDRESSED TONIGHT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S HAD INPUT FROM BOTH SIDES. AND THANK YOU, MR. VOSS, FOR YOUR HARD WORK, ALONG WITH FPL'S LAWYER. OKAY.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO SAY? MR. VOSS, DURING THE TEN MINUTE BREAK WITH THE DISCUSSION, WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME OF THAT DISCUSSION? PLEASE CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF THAT DISCUSSION. WERE ALL THE CHANGES I JUST WALKED YOU THROUGH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M SURE THAT YOU PROBABLY ANSWERED IT. THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE WATER. OKEECHOBEE SURROUNDING AREAS. SO AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE WATER PACKAGE AND CAN YOU HEAR ME? SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S A DATA CENTER, WILL THE WATER BE AFFECTED WITH THE WATER TO OKEECHOBEE WHEREVER BE AFFECTED? THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE BIG QUESTION. YOU ASK. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. WE DON'T KNOW.
COUNCILWOMAN. LET ME LET NATALIE, OUR WATER EXPERT, SHE CAN COME UP AND ADDRESS THAT ISSUE. OKAY. GREAT, GREAT. YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN, MA'AM. YES. MY NAME IS TYLER KROFT. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. THIS TIME WASN'T LATE. SO YOUR QUESTION. WOULD YOU MIND REPEATING THE QUESTION JUST ABOUT THE WATER? IS THERE SOMETHING SPECIFIC? OKAY. THE WATER DEALING WITH THE AQUIFERS. AND HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THE WATER? THE RUNOFF, RUNOFF AND EVERYTHING.
SO TO MR. ROSS'S POINT, THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT WILL REGULATE ALL CONSUMPTIVE USE OF WATER, WHICH IS THE WITHDRAWAL. THE THINGS YOU BRING IN LIKE YOU DO FOR YOUR PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY. YOU HAVE WELLS OR SURFACE WATER THAT GETS BROUGHT IN. THEY ALSO REGULATE ANY
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STORMWATER THAT SHOULD LEAVE THE SITE. SO THEY HAVE PERMITS FOR BOTH OF THOSE THINGS. THEY HAVE CRITERIA THAT WILL GO INTO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS. SO ANY OF THOSE KIND OF USES WOULD BE EVALUATED BY THE DISTRICT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ONE MORE QUESTION. IS IT A WATER THING OR AM I YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE. I'LL JUST SAY I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO WATER. YEAH. OKAY. LET ME LET ME JUST SAY THIS RIGHT HERE. I'M 60 YEARS OLD. OKAY. AND ONE THING I DON'T TOLERATE IS A LOT OF DISRESPECT. IT'S OKAY. YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE OR YOU CAN'T AGREE, BUT DON'T BE DISRESPECTFUL, OKAY? MY MAMA IS 80 YEARS OLD AND I TELL MY MAMA THE SAME THING. AND WHAT I SAY TO MY MAMA IS, GIRL, YOU NEED TO SIT DOWN, OKAY? AND THAT'S MY MAMA. I DON'T HAVE A MAMA IN HERE. AND WHAT I DON'T LIKE IS THE DISRESPECT. I DON'T. IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME, THAT'S FINE. I DON'T AGREE WITH SOME OF Y'ALL, AND THAT'S FINE. AND ALL OF THIS STUFF ABOUT THIS IS AN ELECTION YEAR AND ALL OF THAT. DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO. DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO. BECAUSE HERE'S THE STORY. I LIVE HERE IN INDIANTOWN. MY HUSBAND IS A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF INDIANTOWN. I'M FROM BROWARD COUNTY. I SEE WHAT THINGS COULD LOOK LIKE AND WHEN THEY'RE WHEN THEY'RE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE COMMUNITY, HOW THE COMMUNITY SUFFERS. OKAY. AND ALL THIS STUFF ABOUT WE ARE BOUGHT, WE HAVE TO SIGN THIS. NOBODY CAN BUY ME, NOBODY. AND IF NOBODY LIKES THAT, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I DON'T HAVE TO BE BOUGHT. I DON'T I'M NOT BOUGHT. AND I DON'T THINK NOBODY SITTING UP HERE IS BOUGHT. EVERYBODY HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR OWN OPINIONS. OKAY. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, WE ALL WE, WE HUMAN JUST LIKE Y'ALL ARE WE DONE BEEN CALLED A LOT OF NAMES SITTING UP HERE. OKAY. WE DONE GOT A LOT OF PHONE CALLS, PEOPLE CALLING US OUT OUR NAMES. NOW, WHAT IF WE TURNED THAT AROUND? FIRST THING PEOPLE WILL SAY IS, IS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T DO THAT. WELL, YOU SHOULDN'T DO IT EITHER. OKAY? YOU SHOULDN'T DO THAT NOW. AND IF I WANT TO, IF I GOT A QUESTION, I'M GONNA ANSWER IT. AND IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE, LEAVE. OKAY. GO AHEAD ON AND LEAVE. BUT LEAVE QUIETLY AND RESPECTFUL. NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY. OKAY, NOW I'M DONE. OKAY. VERY WELL SAID. AND I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH EVERYBODY. YEAH. OH, ANGELINA. IS SHE ASLEEP? YES. ANGELINA, ARE YOU STILL THERE? I'M STILL HERE. OH. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD? NO, MA'AM. I'VE HEARD THE COMMENTS, THE CONCERNS AND MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. THANK YOU.OKAY. EXCUSE ME. MAYOR, LET ME LET ME SAY THIS LAST THING. PLEASE INDULGE ME. THESE PEOPLE, EVERY QUESTION. THANK YOU. EVERY QUESTION THAT YOU ALL HAD, IT WAS ANSWERED. EVERY QUESTION WE'VE HAD MEETING UPON MEETING WE HAVE TRIED. NOW I LOVE WHAT CAMERON DOES. AND SHE SHE ASKED THE HARD QUESTIONS BEFORE ANY OF US CAN ASK THEM. I LOVE THE FACT BECAUSE SHE'S OUR AI, SHE'S OUR AI. OKAY. AND AND WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT HAS BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME. AND HERE IS THE THING, WHAT WE WE WANT TO FIGHT ABOUT WHAT WAS MAY NOT BE OKAY IN ANY, IN ANY. MY, THERE'S A TIME WHEN WE HAD ONE ROOM SCHOOLS, OKAY, ONE ROOM SCHOOLS. AND THAT WAS FOR MANY, MANY REASONS. OVER TIME PEOPLE HAVE SAW THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM HAVE GROWN.
WE WENT FROM ONE ROOM TO. YOU CAN'T COME HERE TILL YOU CAN. WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THAT, OKAY. AND NO MATTER WHAT PROGRESSION IS GOING TO HAPPEN, WHETHER WE GET ON THE BANDWAGON OR NOT, AND IN CONCERNING DATA CENTERS, WHATEVER WAS WRONG WITH THOSE PARTICULAR DATA CENTERS, I WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SOME SOME VERY INTELLIGENT ENGINEERS THAT HAVE SOLVED THOSE PROBLEMS. LET'S LOOK AT STUFF LIKE THAT. LET'S LOOK AT THE OPEN, THE CLOSED LOOP. LET'S LOOK AT THAT. LET'S LOOK AT HOW THINGS SEEP OUT. WHAT ARE THEY DOING FOR THAT? AND IF IT'S IN, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT, Y'ALL SAY, OH, THE VILLAGE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY. NO WE DON'T. WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY. OKAY. JUST SAY, OH, WELL YOU'RE SELLING, YOU'RE SELLING INDIAN TOWN. WHAT WAS HERE BEFORE? SOME PEOPLE SAY WE WANT WE WANT OUR COWS. WE WANT OUR OUR HOUSES. WE WANT OUR RENT. I AM NOT AGAINST IT. MATTER OF FACT, LET ME LIVE WITH YOU. I AM NOT AGAINST ANY OF THAT. BUT WHAT I AM AGAINST IS THIS IS THAT WE CAN'T EVEN.
AS ALL OF US EDUCATORS, WE CAN'T KEEP OUR MINDS CLOSED. WE HAVE TO. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT, WE. WE'VE GOTTEN EVERYTHING WE'VE ASKED FOR. LET'S OPEN UP OUR MINDS AND SAY, OKAY, SO IF
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THIS HAPPENS, THEN WHAT? RIGHT NOW WE. WE WANT TO FIGHT. WE AIN'T NO FIGHTING IN HERE. WE GOT POLICE. WE AIN'T FIGHTING. OKAY? WE GOING TO BE RESPECTFUL. OKAY, SO ASK THE QUESTION. WE GOT OUR AI SISTER HERE AND SHE ASKED THE HARD QUESTION. YOU PUT IT IN, SHE BRINGS IT OUT.AND THEN WE HAVE ALL OF THESE EXPERTS HERE AS WELL. OKAY. AND EVERYTHING THAT WE, YOU GUYS HAVE ASKED FOR. AND I SAID THIS RIGHT HERE, IF MY VOTE IS NO, YOU GOING TO KNOW WHY? IF MY VOTE IS YES, YOU GOING TO KNOW WHY? AND I'VE BEEN TRANSPARENT, BUT I'VE ALSO BEEN CALLED A LIAR. AND I DON'T HAVE TO LIE. IF I DON'T LIKE IT, I DON'T LIKE IT. IF I LIKE IT, I LIKE IT. AND IMMA TELL YOU WHY. AND I DID THAT. ALL OF THESE PEOPLE SAT UP HERE AND DID THAT. THIS LADY SAT HERE, SHE ASKED THEM QUESTIONS. THESE MEN WENT BACK AND THEY STILL GOT ACCUSED OF LYING. THEY STILL GOT ACCUSED OF NOT BEING TRANSPARENT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE THEY COULD DO. LPL OWNED THE PROPERTY. THEY GOING TO DO WHATEVER. NOW YOU CAN HAVE IT THIS WAY OR YOU CAN HAVE IT THAT WAY. THAT'S THAT'S JUST AS SIMPLE AS THAT. AND THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN HERE I KNOW FOR A LONG TIME AND I LOVE DEARLY AND WE MAY DIFFER, BUT THEY STILL GOING TO BE MY FRIENDS. OKAY, WE STILL GOING TO SIT AND BREAK BREAD TOGETHER. AND IF WE DON'T, THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THEM. I LOVE DONNA CARMEN, BUT WE MAY NOT AGREE. OKAY. BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ASKED FOR. EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING. PEOPLE CAME FROM BROWARD COUNTY WHERE I LIVED IN BROWARD COUNTY, AND I KNOW DIRTY POLITICS AND IT WAS DIRTY, Y'ALL. Y'ALL WANT TO SEE SOME CORRUPTION? I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT SOME STUFF. OKAY, SO I DON'T YOU'RE WAITING. I'M BEING CALLED A LIAR. HE HE HE DON'T PROVED. DINO WENT BACK LAST WEEK AFTER HEARING EVERYTHING AND AND F P AND L SAID THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT. CAN'T AI GOT US $5 MILLION. SO I'M JUST I'M JUST SAYING I'M I'M JUST SAYING, Y'ALL, I DON'T MEAN NO DISRESPECT TO NOBODY. NOBODY IN THIS ROOM, NOBODY. AND ESPECIALLY THOSE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW PERSONALLY. SO ANYBODY FEELINGS GOT HURT. PLEASE FORGIVE ME, BUT I MEANT WHAT I SAID. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU KNOW. WE'VE GOT A REALLY GREAT TEAM IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. I THINK WE GOT A GREAT COUNCIL. WE HAVE GREAT STAFF AND WE GOT GREAT PARTNERS. GARCIA, JOSH, GREAT PARTNER. PUTTING INDIAN TOWN ON THE MAP, CHANGING THE FACE OF INDIAN TOWN, BRINGING COMMERCIAL, BRINGING SUPERMARKETS AND STORES. AND WE WE NEED TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD. AND FP AND L HAS BEEN THERE F P AND L HAS BEEN THERE FOR. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 33 YEARS. THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN A LEADER IN HELPING THE COMMUNITY. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HURT THE COMMUNITY. THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING US A FAVOR BY APPLYING FOR THIS PUD.
OTHERWISE THEY COULD TAKE THAT PROPERTY AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT, AND NOBODY CAN STOP THEM. SO I THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU DO FOR COMING FORWARD WITH THIS PUD.
SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION PASSED THE ORDINANCE AS IS WRITTEN WITH WITH THE SO MOVED SECOND MODIFICATIONS. OH, AS WITH THE MODIFICATIONS. YES. WITH THE MODIFICATION. YES. OKAY. MAKE THE MOTION. WE GOT A SECOND. DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE, PLEASE.
ANGELINA FIRST. ANGELINA. ANGELINA, I'M HERE. OKAY. READY? YES. COUNCILMEMBER. WILLIAMS. PALMER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. PEREZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. ONZAGA. YES. VICE. MAYOR.
WATERS. BROWN. YES. MAYOR. DEPALO. YES. THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OH, YEAH.
HEY, THIS IS ADJOURNED. Y
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