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GOSH. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. WE READY I GUESS. YEAH. OKAY, LET'S CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. MADAM CLERK, ROLL CALL PLEASE. MAYOR DEPAOLO HERE. VICE MAYOR WATERS BROWN HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER. PEREZ HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. PALMER. WHAT YOU SAID WILLIAMS, PALMER OR WOULD WILLIAMS? OH, OKAY. SOMEONE SAID WOULD. I'M HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SAWYER HERE.
OKAY. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO OUR NOVEMBER 13TH INDIAN TOWN VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING.
I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU TO SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. THE BATHROOM IS LOCATED THROUGH THE DOOR TO YOUR LEFT. EXIT DOOR IS LOCATED TO YOUR LEFT AND RIGHT, CLEARLY MARKED WITH EXIT SIGNS.
YOU'LL HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK TONIGHT. THE FIRST WILL BE DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SEGMENT, AT WHICH TIME YOU CAN COMMENT ON ANY TOPIC THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. THE SECOND WILL BE DURING THE AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSION. THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THE CLOSING. FOR PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT PRESENT DURING THE OPENING, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES IN EACH SEGMENT. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE FILL OUT THE INFORMATION CARD LOCATED AT THE TABLE BEHIND YOU AND HAND IT TO THE DEPUTY. OKAY, AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK YOU TO STAND FOR THE INVOCATION GIVEN BY JUNIOR PASTOR DILLON. REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. OUR DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK THEE, FATHER, FOR BRINGING US ALL HERE TOGETHER THIS EVENING. WE THANK THEE FOR THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN. WE THANK THEE FOR THE PROGRESS AND THE GROWING TOWN OF INDIAN TOWN.
WE. WE THANK THEE FOR. THIS WONDERFUL NATION THAT WE LIVE IN AND FOR ALL THE DEDICATED LOCAL LEADERSHIP. WE. MOST OF ALL THANK THEE FOR. THY SON, JESUS CHRIST AND FOR HIS GOSPEL.
AND AT THIS TIME WE ASK FOR A BLESSING UPON THE MEMBERS OF. THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR THAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO. CONTINUE TO LEAD AND GUIDE THIS VILLAGE. WE ASK FOR A BLESSING ON THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO, THAT IT MAY BE ABLE TO PROSPER AND DEVELOP INTO WHAT THOU WOULD HAVE IT BECOME. WE PRAY FOR THY HOLY SPIRIT TO BE WITH US, AND TO TOUCH OUR HEARTS, AND PRAY THAT WE MAY BE. LIFTED UP, AND THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO GIVE ALL THE GLORY TO THEE, FATHER, AND OVERCOME OUR TRIALS IN THE WAY THAT YOU SEE FIT. AND WE THANK THEE FOR ALL OF OUR MANY BLESSINGS AND OUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY, AND TO REMEMBER ALL OF THEM. THESE. THIS SEASON. AND WE SAY ALL THESE THINGS IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, AMEN. AMEN. WE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, ITEMS, OR MODIFICATIONS? NO,
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SIR. OKAY, OKAY, SO WE'LL START WITH OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? YES, SIR. I CAN'T MAKE OUT THE LAST NAME, BUT MISS LORI BECKER. THAT'S AN OLD SAYING. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M LORI, I AM THE DIRECTOR OF PAWS FOR RECOVERY. WE ARE A DOG RESCUE RIGHT ON WARFIELD BOULEVARD, AND WE'RE KIND OF NEW. WE'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS.WANTED TO GET REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY MORE. SO WE ARE HAVING AN EVENT NEXT WEEKEND, NOVEMBER 22ND ON A SATURDAY, AND I HAVE FLIERS AND THAT EVENT IS FROM 11 TO 3. IT'S
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GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF FUN STUFF, PARTICULARLY FOR KIDS. WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE MOBILE PETTING ZOO. WE'RE ALSO HAVING A TRAINING THING WITH THE DOGS AND AND A TRAINER. WE'RE TRYING TO GET A POLICE OFFICER, BUT I COULDN'T I COULDN'T GET IN. EVERYBODY'S BUSY. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO HAVING A SILENT AUCTION, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF COOL STUFF ON THERE.IF ANYBODY KNOWS OF ANYBODY THAT MIGHT WANT TO GIVE US A SOMETHING TO PUT IN THE SILENT AUCTION, LET US KNOW. WE HAVE EVERYTHING FROM A REALLY COOL BOAT TRIP WORTH LIKE $2,000 DOWN TO LIKE, GIFT CERTIFICATES TO LOCAL RESTAURANTS AND STUFF FROM TEQUESTA ALL THE WAY AS FAR AS JENSEN. YES. SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OH, I HAVE A DOG COSTUME PARADE TO.
YEAH. CAN I GET CAN I LEAVE SOME FLIERS? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR FOR WHAT YOU SAID AND IN PARTICULAR THE BLESSING PART. I REALLY LIKED FIGURING OUT THROUGH YOUR TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS, THE WEST, THE WAY THAT HE FEELS BEST FIT. I NEEDED THAT TODAY. SO THANK YOU. AWESOME. IS THAT GOING TO WORK FOR YOU? YOU KNOW WHERE JAY AND JAY LOADING IS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IF YOU'RE COMING FROM HERE? YEAH, IT'S THE THE FIRST DRIVEWAY RIGHT AFTER THAT. YES. AND YOU CAN LEAVE THEM BACK. YES. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? NO, SIR. OKAY. ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS? NO COMMENTS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS. ANYBODY HAVE COMMENTS? NOBODY. OKAY. VILLAGE MANAGER MR. ALL RIGHT. APPROVAL OF
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AGENDA. WE HAVE A MOVE TO APPROVE MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND BY OUR SECOND, SECOND BY VICE MAYOR. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE AYE OKAY. OKAY. REGULAR AGENDA. MOTION APPROVE CONSENT. CONSENT[APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]
AGENDA. CONSENT. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA. CONSENT AGENDA. THAT'S WHAT WE JUST DID, RIGHT? NOPE. THAT WAS CONSENT. I'M DOWN HERE. I'M SORRY. I'M ALL MESSED UP. MOTION TO APPROVE.OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE. MADE SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE MOTION TO SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. OKAY. COUNCIL MEETING DATES. NO. WHERE AM I? YOU MESSED ME UP WITH THIS.
HOLD ON. RIGHT HERE. OKAY. SO NO EXTRA PIECE OF PAPER. YOU HAVE AUTHORIZATION OF PURCHASE
[Authorization to Purchase One (1) Kubota Compact Tight Tail Swing Excavator from Crystal Tractor & Equipment for the Public Works Department in the Amount of $30,269.00 Utilizing the Florida Sheriff’s Association Contract. ]
OF KUBOTA. YES, YES. GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, PAT NOLAN. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, THIS AGENDA ITEM IS FOR THE PURCHASE OF KUBOTA EXCAVATOR. WE HAVE BEEN RENTING ONE FROM ONE OF THE LOCAL CONTRACTORS FOR ABOUT THE LAST YEAR. THIS WILL ENABLE US TO DO MORE WORK IN-HOUSE.MOSTLY. THIS IS NOT A BIG EXCAVATOR. IT'S A SMALLER SIZED EXCAVATOR SO THAT WE CAN GET BEHIND THE HOMES OVER HERE IN THE UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALSO BOOKER PARK. SO IT'S A IT'S A TOOL. I'VE COME BEFORE YOU PREVIOUSLY TO ASK YOU TO PURCHASE OTHER TOOLS. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, IS A TOOL TO ENABLE OUR WORKFORCE TO DO MORE FOR THE COMMUNITY IN-HOUSE.
AND IT WAS IN THE BUDGET WHEN WE APPROVED THE BUDGET. SO THERE IS MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. I HAVE A QUESTION. SURE. WHAT'S ITS OFF ROAD ABILITY? IT'S A TRACKED EXCAVATOR. IT IS TRACKED SO YOU CAN TAKE IT ON OR OFF ROAD. YES. OKAY.
SECONDLY, HOW MUCH DID WE SPEND LAST YEAR OR THE PRIOR TWO YEARS? EVEN IN RENTAL, WE WERE SPENDING $2,500 A MONTH FOR THE RENTAL EXCAVATOR. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SURE. ANYBODY ELSE QUESTIONS? OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE THE SECOND I SECOND IT. CAN I GET A FIRST AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. AYE OKAY. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO YOU MIGHT AS WELL STAY. YEAH. NEXT ITEM. IS FOR THE
[Approval of a Purchase Agreement with Beaver Ecoworks LLC for Sewage Water Post-Treatment Trailer.]
CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF PURCHASE OF A BEAVER ECHO WORKS EQUIPMENT. THAT IS EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. WE'VE BEEN WE ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH A LEASE.WE'VE BEEN LEASING THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR QUITE A WHILE. INITIALLY WHEN WE STARTED THIS,
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WE BROUGHT IT TO THE WASTEWATER PLANT SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO USE POTABLE WATER TO DO PROCESS WORK AT THE WASTEWATER PLANT. BECAUSE WE'RE USING WE USE AROUND 30,000 GALLONS A DAY AT THE WASTEWATER PLANT FOR HOSING THE PLANT PROCESS. WHATEVER. THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT HAS WORKED VERY WELL, ACTUALLY. IT'S WE RAN INTO A SITUATION BUILDING THE NEW PLANT. WE NEEDED A LARGE AMOUNT OF WATER WHEN WE WERE COMPACTING FOR THE NEW TANKS, AND WE WERE ABLE TO USE THE BEAVER WORKS EQUIPMENT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT FUNCTION AS WELL. SO WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE CAN GET THIS PAID THROUGH THE GRANT THAT WE HAVE FOR THE WASTEWATER PLANT. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE OPTING TO PURCHASE IT NOW, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO USE THAT. WE'RE GOING TO RETROFIT IT AND USE IT AT THE NEW PLANT AS WELL. SO IT'S BEEN A VITAL TOOL SINCE WE STARTED LEASING IT. AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO USE IT FOR A LONG TIME IN THE FUTURE. YEAH.I HAVE A QUESTION. GO AHEAD. WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT OF THE LEASE STARTED OUT? THE INITIAL COST WAS OVER $800,000. I THINK WE OWE SON A SECOND PAGE THAT I LEFT ON THE TABLE THERE. IT'S 400 AND SOME THOUSAND. SO WE'RE BUYING OUT THE LEASE. YES WE ARE. OKAY, OKAY. WHAT SIZE IS THIS? I'M LOOKING AT THEM NOW. WHAT SIZE IS IT? WHAT SIZE IS THE WASTEWATER? YEAH, IT SAYS BEAVER ECO WORKS SEWAGE. IT'S IT'S CAPABLE OF PUMPING 1500 GALLONS A MINUTE. 1300. AND WE'VE HAD THIS TRAILER FOR HOW LONG? IT'S GOTTA BE WELL OVER A YEAR. IT WAS JUNE, JUNE OR JULY OF 2024. OKAY, SO, YEAH, A YEAR AND A HALF. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. CAN I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE BUY OUT THE LEASE? OKAY. MOTION MADE BY VICE MAYOR A SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ONSLAUGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY, I GUESS
[Approval of Professional Services Agreement with Kimley-Horn and Associates to perform a Comprehensive Vulnerability Assessment for the Village of Indiantown. ]
APPROVAL OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH KIMLEY-HORN. I WAS WONDERING, WHERE WERE YOU GOING? STAY HERE. THIS IS ALL. PAT. PAT, BY THE WAY, DO YOU WANT TO. BEFORE THEY GO, DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THE FOLKS FROM BEAVER RIVER WORKS WHO HAD JOINED US OVER? TO MY RIGHT ARE THE GENTLEMEN FROM BEAVER ECHO WORKS, JAMEEL, SANJEEV AND TED.THEY CAME TO THE VILLAGE PROBABLY TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO. WE STARTED TO DID A PILOT PROGRAM WITH THE FIRST BEAVER ECHO WORKS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AT THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. WE'RE USING IT FOR PRETREATMENT AT THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT PRESENTLY.
THAT'S WHAT LED US TO TRY THE EQUIPMENT AT THE WASTEWATER PLANT. WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING THE EFFLUENT FROM THE WASTEWATER PLANT AND TREATING IT AND THEN REUSING IT. SO WE BASICALLY HAVE A LITTLE REUSE PLANT AT THE WATER AT THE WASTEWATER PLANT, THAT'S WHAT.
SO THEY'VE ENABLED US AGAIN, NOT TO USE POTABLE WATER AT THE WASTEWATER PLANT. BUT AGAIN, THE TECHNOLOGY IS WORKING SO WELL THAT WE ARE GOING TO INCORPORATE IT INTO NEW WASTEWATER PLANT AS WELL. I HAVE A QUESTION. SURE. WHAT IS THE MECHANISM? REVERSE OSMOSIS CHLORINE. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR SANJEEV BECAUSE HE IS. THAT'S WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY. I THINK HE DESIGNED IT. WE WENT THERE IN PALM CITY, SO THEY'RE NOT FAR AWAY AND I DON'T KNOW. ARE YOU BUILDING ANYTHING RIGHT NOW? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING IN THERE? YES WE DO.
IT WOULD BE. IT WOULD BE IF, IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO GO AND ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE SYSTEM AND HAVE THEM EXPLAIN IT TO YOU WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, AND WHAT EVERY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, WHAT EVERY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IN THAT TRAILER DOES, IT'S VERY, VERY INTERESTING. SO FOR THE RECORD, I'M SANJEEV FROM BEAVER WORKS. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE TECHNOLOGY IS ELECTROCHEMICAL OXIDATION. SO WE HAVE ELECTRODES WHICH GENERATE ITS OWN CHEMISTRY. SO WE DON'T USE CHEMICAL IN THE TREATMENT PROCESS AS WELL. NO LIGHTS, NO LIGHTS, NO ELECTRICAL ELECTRICITY OKAY. AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO VISIT OUR FACILITY IN PALM CITY JUST TO SEE THE MANUFACTURING. AND THAT'S THE ADVANTAGE WE OFFER BECAUSE OF THE VICINITY WE ARE, WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE A GOOD SERVICE TO THE OPERATING UNITS HERE IN INDIAN TOWN WITH A.
CREW. SO THAT'S ADVANTAGE. PORT SAINT LUCIE IS USING THE TECHNOLOGY TOO, AREN'T THEY? NO.
OKEECHOBEE. WE JUST FINISHED A PILOT, SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF OFFERING THEM SAME TECHNOLOGY. WHAT IS THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF THE TRAILER WE'RE PURCHASING? WE HAVE SEEN ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 15 YEARS. THE WHOLE EQUIPMENT, THE SPARE PARTS YOU CAN USE ANYWHERE FROM
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FILTERS AND ALL ARE CONSUMABLE FROM 3 TO 6 MONTHS. ELECTRODES, WHICH ARE THE KEY COMPONENT. WE FACTOR THAT IN 3 TO 5 YEARS LIFE OUT OF IT. SO IT'S A PRETTY RUGGED SYSTEM. DOES IT CREATE POTABLE WATER OR JUST REUSE WATER? NO. WHAT IT DOES IS WE ARE FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR DRINKING WATER PLANT, WE ARE BETWEEN A RAW WATER SOURCE AND THE PLANT. SO THIS TECHNOLOGY TAKES CARE OF MANY CONTAMINANTS WHICH ARE COMING IN THE RAW WATER, LIKE IRON HARDNESS OR ANY CHEMICALS WHICH ARE CARCINOGENIC, WHICH GETS TOXIC CHEMICALS OR PHARMACEUTICAL SUBSTRATE. SO IT DESTROYS ALL THOSE THINGS BEFORE WATER REACHES TO THEIR PLANT. SO THEN THEY PROCESS IT FURTHER. SO YOU'RE GETTING A SUPER QUALITY WATER OKAY. FOR THE CUSTOMERS.THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. YEAH. PAT IS OFFERED US TO TAKE A TRIP BEFORE AND I TOOK THE TRIP. IT'S REALLY AN INTERESTING PIECE OF SMALL THAT DOES SO MUCH WORK. SO IT'S A GOOD TOUR IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IF YOU WISH TO TAKE IT. YEAH. SO IF I CAN JUST ELABORATE JUST A LITTLE BIT. ONE OF THE REASON WE GOT BROUGHT IN EARLY ON IS YOU WERE HAVING A LOT OF BOIL WATER ALERTS WITH YOUR WATER, AND WHEN WE BROUGHT OUR TECHNOLOGY IN, WE ELIMINATED THOSE BECAUSE WE TREAT THE WATER THE WAY SANJIV TALKED ABOUT. WE ELIMINATE THE THE THE E COLI IN THE WASTEWATER. WE WE TAKE CARE OF ALL THOSE THINGS UP FRONT. BUT YOU STILL NEED YOUR WATER PLANT. YOUR WATER PLANT STILL DOES WHAT IT DOES. WE'RE JUST MAKING BETTER RAW WATER ENTERING YOUR PLANT. RIGHT? RIGHT. BUT IT'S YOU KNOW, YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE BOIL WATER ALERTS. YOU WERE ABLE TO ELIMINATE THE USE OF, OF CHEMICALS IN YOUR WATER LIKE AMMONIA FOR DISINFECTION. THEY LIMITED THAT COMPLETELY WHEN WE STARTED THE SYSTEM. BEEN ABLE TO REDUCE YOUR CHLORINE LOAD. AND IT CARRIES THAT CHLORINE RESIDUAL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. SO YOU'RE NOT OVERDOSING THE CHLORINE UPFRONT TO GET IT TO CARRY ALL THE WAY DOWN. SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT BENEFITS TO BOTH THE SYSTEM AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY BY USING THE SYSTEM. SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE. GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. AWESOME. OKAY. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM, THIS ITEM IS APPROVAL OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH KIMLEY-HORN TO DO A VULNERABILITY VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT. AND WHAT THAT IS IS WE'RE GOING TO ASSESS THE VILLAGE FOR FLOOD RESILIENCE AND OUR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THE BEST PART OF THIS IS IT'S BEING PAID BY FROM A GRANT FROM THE FDEP. WE NEED TO DO THIS ASSESSMENT AS SO WE CAN CHECK A BOX SO THAT WHEN WE GO LOOK FOR OTHER GRANTS, WE HAVE THIS. I MEAN IT'S AN IMPORTANT ASSESSMENT. DON'T GET ME WRONG, WE'RE NOT DOING IT JUST TO CHECK A BOX, BUT IT DOES HELP US WHEN WE GO LOOK FOR OTHER GRANTS BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS IN OUR TOOLKIT, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH OTHER THINGS. SO JUST ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. AND LIKE I SAID, THE BEST THING IS IT'S $100,000 PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BE PAID FULLY BY THE FDEP. OKAY. ANY QUESTION? SURE. ISN'T THIS IS THIS OUR OUR PEOPLE THAT WE PUT ON AS OUR ENGINEERS? IT'S KIMLEY-HORN THAT'S WHO'S DOING IT. RIGHT? THAT'S OUR KIMLEY-HORN IS THAT WE JUST PUT THEM ON A FEW MONTHS AGO, AS OUR ENGINEERS OR KIMLEY-HORN HAS BEEN WITH THE VILLAGE SINCE BEFORE I GOT HERE. TOM JENSEN SPECIFICALLY HAS WORKED WITH ME DIRECTLY FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF. WELL, RIGHT AFTER TARYN GOT HERE, WE WENT AND ANOTHER ENGINEER HAD LEFT. TOM JENSEN WAS THE BEST ENGINEER THAT WE COULD BRING IN OF ALL THE ENGINEERS THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH, AND THANKFULLY HE CAME IN.
HE'S OUR VILLAGE ENGINEER. HE WON'T BE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY, BUT KIMLEY-HORN DOES A LOT FOR THE VILLAGE, SO THIS IS BASED OFF A CONTINUING CONTRACT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE WITH THEM. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. YEAH. SO THIS DOES GO THAT AND THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO OUT TO BID FOR THIS IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A CONTINUING CONTRACT WITH KIMLEY-HORN. YEAH. SECONDLY, IS THIS GOING TO IDENTIFY ISSUES LIKE WE HAD WHEN THE IT FLOODED AND RAINED SO HARD THAT IT BURST THAT THAT BIG PIPE THAT CAUSED THE ISSUE A COUPLE MONTHS LIKE A MONTH AGO, IS THAT GOING TO IDENTIFY OTHER PLACES WHERE THAT COULD HAPPEN IS THAT IT'S GOING TO IDENTIFY WEAKNESSES? ABSOLUTELY. RIGHT. SO IT'LL GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE TO SPEND YOUR MONEY. FIRST. CORRECT. ON THE ON THE CORRECTIONS. CORRECT.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF NO ONE HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO APPROVE, DO WE HAVE ANY? NONE. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN ONSLOW. SECOND.
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SECOND BY VICE MAYOR. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. OKAY, I GUESS[Award contract to PlayPower LT Farmington, Inc for the replacement of the Booker Park Playground Equipment and surfacing.]
DEBBIE'S UP FOR CONTRACT PLAYPOWER. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.DEBBIE RUSSO, PARKS DIRECTOR. FOR THE RECORD, THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO PLAYPOWER FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE BOOKER PARK PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND SURFACING MATERIAL. THE BOOKER PARK PLAYGROUND IS WAS INSTALLED IN ABOUT 2010, SO IT'S 15 YEARS OLD. IT HAS REACHED ITS END OF LIFE. PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT USUALLY LASTS 8 TO 10 YEARS. IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE, THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT LOOKS OLD, IT LOOKS DATED. WE DON'T HAVE ANY SHADE OUT THERE, SO YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SO ACCESSIBLE FOR THE KIDS. AND THE PROPOSED PROJECT THERE WERE PICTURES IN THE AGENDA ITEM SHOWS YOU THAT WE'VE ADDED SHADE STRUCTURES OVER THE MAJORITY OF THE EQUIPMENT. WE'RE ALSO ADDING BENCHES WITH SHADE FOR PARENTS SO THAT THEY CAN WATCH THEIR KIDS WHILE THEY'RE THERE. INSTEAD OF SITTING IN THE CARS TRYING TO STAY OUT OF THE HEAT. AND IT REPLACES THE ENGINEERED WOOD FIBER WITH ARTIFICIAL TURF.
SO IT'S GOING TO IT'LL MEET ADA ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS AS WELL. THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS $254,826.76. THIS INCLUDES ALL MATERIALS AND LABOR. IT'S TURNKEY FROM START TO FINISH.
THEY'RE REMOVING EVERYTHING THAT'S THERE. THEY'RE REPLACING EVERYTHING, AND WE'RE SUPER EXCITED. THIS WAS A PURCHASE BASED ON A COMPETITIVELY BID SOURCEWELL CONTRACT. SO IT'S A COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT. SO THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, LARGER CONTRACTS. THEY GET US BETTER PRICING BECAUSE IT'S YOU KNOW, A NATIONWIDE COOPERATIVE. THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE IN THE 2526 PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET. SO WE'RE ASKING APPROVAL TO AWARD THIS CONTRACT. WHEN ARE YOU LOOKING TO DO THIS PROJECT IF APPROVED? TONIGHT. THEY TOLD ME THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD GET STARTED IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, SO I DON'T HAVE A SET DATE YET.
UNTIL THEY HAVE A SIGNED CONTRACT, THEY WON'T PUT US IN THE LINE. BUT I CAN GET BACK TO YOU WITH AN EXACT DATE. AND THIS IS REPLACING ALL OF THE OLD EQUIPMENT, ALL OF THE OLD EQUIPMENT AT BOOKER PARK. ALSO ADDING MORE. IT IS ADDING ADDITIONAL ATTRACTIONS. YES. SO IT'LL HAVE A PLAY STRUCTURE, THE SWING SET, WHICH WILL BOTH HAVE SHADES, IT'LL HAVE A CLIMBING NET, AND IT'S ALSO GOT A MERRY GO ROUND. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY, SO THE REPLACEMENT COVERS FOR WHAT AGE? FOR 5 TO 12. 5 TO 12. YEP. SO OVER THE AGE OF 12 WHAT IS THERE ANYTHING FOR THEM. NOT AT THIS TIME OKAY. OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE BY. COUNCIL MEMBER ON SECOND BY SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HOW'S THAT AIR CONDITIONING WORKING IN THERE? OKAY. IT'S A BOXING RING IN THE IN THE BOXING. IT'S UP AND RUNNING. YEP. OKAY. OKAY. FIRST
[First Amendment to Listing Agreement with Indiantown Realty Corp.]
AMENDMENT TO THE LISTING AGREEMENT WITH INDIAN TOWN REALTY CORP. THANK YOU. MAYOR.I'LL BE HANDLING THAT ONE. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING. PER THE DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL, AT YOUR LAST MEETING, THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WITH AN AMENDMENT TO THE VILLAGE'S LISTING AGREEMENT WITH INDIAN TOWN REALTY CONCERNING THE SALE OF THE VILLAGE'S FIVE ACRE PROPERTY UP ON WARFIELD. SPECIFICALLY, THE AMENDMENT DOES TWO THINGS. IT AMENDS AND EXTENDS THE TERM OF THE LISTING AGREEMENT FOR 18 MONTHS TO MAY 2027, MAY 13TH, 2027, AND THEN AFTER THAT DATE, THE LISTING AGREEMENT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY EXTEND JUST ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS UNTIL 30 DAYS NOTICE IS GIVEN, SO THE VILLAGE WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE NOTICE ON 30 DAYS NOTICE IF SO DESIRED AT THAT TIME. IN ADDITION, THE AMENDMENT ALSO REVISES THE COMPENSATION TERMS OF THE LISTING AGREEMENT. SO UNDER THE LISTING AGREEMENT AS IT WAS, PROVIDES FOR A FEE OF 5%, WHICH I WILL SHARE WITH YOU AND KEVIN POWERS CAN POSSIBLY ADDRESS THIS IF YOU CHAT WITH HIM ABOUT IT. 5% GENERALLY IS LOWER THAN TYPICAL ON A COMMERCIAL FEE. TYPICALLY OFTEN ENDS UP BEING 6%, BUT THEIR THEIRS WAS AT 5%.
IF IT'S WITHOUT A COOPERATING BROKER AND 6% IF IT'S A SPLIT WITH A COOPERATING BROKER. SO THREE AND THREE. THAT'S HOW IT WAS UNDER THE ORIGINAL LISTING AGREEMENT. THIS AMENDMENT ACTUALLY MAKES A TWEAK TO THAT. THOSE TERMS. IT SPECIFIES THAT IN THE EVENT THE VILLAGE ENTERS
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INTO A CONTRACT WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THIS AMENDMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY WITH THE PROSPECTIVE BUYER THAT COUNCIL'S DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY BACK ON YOUR OCTOBER 9TH MEETING, AND THAT BUYER DOESN'T HAVE ANY COOPERATING BROKER, THEN THE FEE WOULD NOT BE 5%, BUT RATHER WOULD BE 4%. SO IT MAKES AN ADJUSTMENT TO THAT FEE IN THAT INSTANCE. SO WITH THAT, THAT'S THE AMENDMENT THAT'S BEFORE YOU STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE VILLAGE COUNCIL CONSIDER THIS FIRST AMENDMENT. AND KEVIN POWERS WITH INDIAN TOWN REALTY IS HERE. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS. AND I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN SLAUGHTER, MISTER POWERS REMIND APPROACHING. QUESTIONS. YES. I DO LIKE MY MOM. GET HIM SOME WATER. GET HIM SOME WATER. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR. COUNCIL. IT'S NICE TO BE HERE. THANK YOU.YOU AND I HAD A MEETING. WE DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT YOU DID NOT PROCURE THIS BUYER. THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY STATED TO BE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING, AND WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT YOU WOULD EXCLUDE THIS BUYER FROM YOUR LISTING AGREEMENT. I CAN'T SUPPORT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT FULL EXCLUSION. THANK YOU. I'M ONLY HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THE EXTENSION OF OUR AGREEMENT AND THAT'S IT. SO I UNDERSTAND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND OKAY. SO ARE YOU WILLING TO EXCLUDE THE BUYER FROM THIS AGREEMENT? I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THE BUYER IS. I'M ONLY I'M ONLY HERE TO DISCUSS THE EXTENSION OF. I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THE BUYER IS. WELL, DO YOU DO YOU KNOW I DON'T? HOWEVER, I HOWEVER, IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT THE BUYER WAS BROUGHT WITHOUT THE USE OF A REALTOR. YOU AND I DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT YOU HAD NOT HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT, THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW THE BUYER, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY. POOR JUDGMENT ON OUR PART TO PAY A 4% COMMISSION FOR A BUYER YOU DIDN'T BRING. I'M SORRY. I CANNOT SUPPORT THAT. I WON'T SUPPORT THIS UNLESS THAT BUYER IS COMPLETELY EXCLUDED. I DON'T MIND YOU LISTING THE PROPERTY. IF YOU BRING A BUYER, I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO BE PAID. BUT OUR MAYOR HERE HAS PRESENTED A BUYER THAT IS WILLING TO PAY. WHAT, 3.25? ISN'T THAT WHAT THE ASKING PRICE IS? THAT 4% IS $120,000 COMMISSION. AND I'M A REALTOR. I'VE BEEN A REALTOR FOR 23 YEARS. I'VE HANDLED A LOT OF BIG STUFF, JUST LIKE YOU HAVE. AND WE DON'T EARN OUR MONEY WHEN WE DON'T BRING THE BUYER. I WOULD LOVE FOR IF THIS DOESN'T WORK OUT FOR YOU TO SELL IT AND EARN THAT COMMISSION, BUT I CANNOT SUPPORT $120,000 COMMISSION TO A BUYER YOU DIDN'T BRING. AGAIN, I HAVE NO IDEA. THANK YOU. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I HAVE NO IDEA ANYTHING ABOUT THAT TRANSACTION. WHO THE BUYER IS. YEAH. I'M HERE. I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE EXTENSION OF OF OF OUR AGREEMENT. AS IT WAS IN THE BEGINNING. NOBODY REPRESENTS INDIAN TOWN OR YOUR PROPERTY BETTER THAN WE DO. WE'RE THE ONLY FIRM LOCATED IN INDIANTOWN.
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. ANYBODY FOR OUR DISCUSSION? YEAH. I'D LIKE, CAN YOU WEIGH IN ON THIS WEIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. IT WENT DOWN THE WRONG WAY. THERE. HERE. THAT HAPPENS. YEAH. NO I'M VERY SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO AS I INDICATED, WE HAVE TWO TWO TWEAKS TO THE AGREEMENT GOING ON HERE. AN EXTENSION OF THE TERM. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN A MODIFICATION THAT WE HAVE HERE IN WITH REGARD TO THE FEE. ALL RIGHT. WITH RESPECT TO THIS SINGULAR PROSPECTIVE BUYER. SO. I'M GOING TO GIVE GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH SIDES I'M SORRY TO DO THAT. BUT JUST TO TELL YOU GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND WITH REGARD TO COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS. WHEN YOU HAVE A BROKER AND THAT BROKER IS ENGAGED IN ALL SORTS OF MATTERS LIKE MARKETING OF THE PROPERTY LOCALLY AND THEN REGIONALLY AND NATIONALLY AND SO ON, YOU HAVE INSTANCES WHERE THAT INFORMATION GETS OUT THERE AND THAT BROKER, YOU KNOW, MAY BE THE PERSON WHO DIRECTLY BRINGS THOSE FOLKS IN. THERE ARE OTHER INSTANCES WHERE A BROKER IS THE LISTING BROKER ON SOMETHING AND COMPLETELY SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE WORK OF THAT BROKER. SOMEBODY JUST COMES IN THE DOOR.
ALL RIGHT. THE WAY IT WORKS IN FLORIDA IS WHEN YOU HAVE THAT BROKER, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY WERE THE ONE WHO WENT AND DID ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING AND GRABBED THAT PERSON, OR THEY DID A LOT OF WORK, BUT THEY WEREN'T THE, YOU KNOW, THEY WEREN'T THAT PIECE THERE. AND
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THIS PERSON COMES IN THE DOOR, THEY GET THAT FEE. WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A MODIFICATION TO THIS TO TO SAY IF IT HAPPENS TO BE THIS, YOU KNOW, SINGULAR INSTANCE HERE THEY WILL OFFER TO HAVE A LOWER FEE ON THAT, WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE COUNCIL. IT'S REALLY ULTIMATELY KIND OF A BUSINESS DECISION. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY, PLEASE, IF THERE IS A ACTIVE LISTING, THE CASE IS THAT IT'S AN EXCLUSIVE AND YOU GET PAID. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 23 YEARS IN THREE STATES. IF YOU HAVE AN ACTIVE LISTING, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU BRING THE SELLER, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO EARN A COMMISSION. THE LISTING EXPIRED. YOU ARE WANTING TO RETROACTIVELY RELIST ON A BUYER THAT WAS BROUGHT DURING THE EXPIRATION OF THAT LISTING. WE HAD NO LISTING. I ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT VOTE TO PAY $120,000 IN THIS CASE. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. OUR ATTORNEY CAN WRITE THE CONTRACT. WE DON'T NEED A REALTOR TO WRITE THE CONTRACT ON THIS BUYER THAT MR. THAT MAYOR SAID I PROCURED THAT. MR. POWERS TOLD ME IN A PERSONAL MEETING HE DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT. HE AGREED THAT THE LISTING HAD EXPIRED, THAT IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT. THAT HAPPENS. BUT HERE'S THE ISSUE. IT WAS NOT LISTED AT THE TIME THAT THE MAYOR BROUGHT THE BUYER. THE.I'M NOT DONE. THEREFORE, A RETROACTIVE LISTING THAT PAYS FOR A BUYER THAT WAS BROUGHT SOMEWHERE ELSE LOOKS REALLY FILTHY. AND I AM NOT GOING TO BE A PART OF THAT. IT LOOKS BAD THAT YOU GIVE A RETROACTIVE LISTING PAYING 4% ON 3.2 MILLION. SOMEBODY DO THE MATH RIGHT NOW. NO, NOW I'M ALL FOR RENEWING HIS LISTING IN CASE THIS DOES NOT WORK OUT, MR. MAYOR IS GOING TO HAVE TO DIVULGE TO OUR ATTORNEY WHO HIS BUYER IS. THAT BUYER IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE EXCLUDED FROM ANY LISTING AGREEMENT. IF THAT DOES NOT WORK OUT, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE BEST REALTORS IN TOWN HANDLING THAT PROPERTY, AND THAT IS THE POWERS. BUT THERE WAS NO ACTIVE LISTING AGREEMENT. THIS IS RETROACTIVE. IT IS 4%. I'M SORRY, BUT I CAN WRITE THAT CONTRACT IF NOBODY ELSE CAN. AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY OUT OF OUR POCKET. THAT IS NOT THE WAY THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS WORKS. I'VE BEEN IN INDUSTRIAL REAL ESTATE, COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE, BEEN DOING THIS FOR 23 YEARS. I'M A BROKER IN THREE STATES. THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS. HAD THE LISTING NOT EXPIRED, HE'D BE ENTITLED TO HAVE A COMMISSION. BUT IF WE RETROACTIVELY SIGN AN AGREEMENT FOR 4% ON A BUYER THAT WAS NOT BROUGHT THROUGH REAL ESTATE, THAT'S GOING TO LOOK REALLY BAD, GUYS. AND I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO JUST SAY IT RIGHT NOW.
I'M NOT VOTING FOR THAT. THAT LOOKS REALLY DIRTY. THANK YOU. OKAY, MAYOR, I DO WANT TO JUST CLARIFY ONE THING, BECAUSE, COUNCILMEMBER, YOU HAD MENTIONED YOU SAID YOU WANT US TO APPROVE. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT I PREPARED THIS ITEM HERE. ALL RIGHT. I AM NOT ADVOCATING TO YOU ANY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WITH RESPECT TO THIS. WHAT I WILL TELL YOU THAT IS THAT I SPOKE WITH KEVIN CONCERNING THIS. WE TALKED THROUGH TERMS, AND AS WE TALK THROUGH TERMS, THESE ARE THE TERMS THAT WERE NAILED DOWN THAT COULD THAT THAT INDIAN TOWN REALTY COULD OFFER AND AGREE TO IN THE EXTENSION. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE HERE. OKAY.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT AM I CORRECT THAT THE LISTING HAD EXPIRED PRIOR TO THE FACT THAT THE MAYOR BROUGHT THE BUYER? COUNCILMEMBER. YES. THANK YOU. THE IT HAD EXPIRED. THANK YOU.
I GO AHEAD. I DO WANT TO JUST OFFER ONE ADDITIONAL PIECE. AND IT IS NOT MY PLACE TO TO DISAGREE WITH YOUR JUDGMENT OF YOUR, YOU KNOW, CONCERN ABOUT, ABOUT THIS EXTENSION OR YOUR CHARACTERIZATION OF IT AND SO ON. I WILL JUST SHARE WITH YOU THAT THE MERE FACT THAT YOU HAVE AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE AN EFFECT OF BEING RETROACTIVE, TO DEAL WITH WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU WOULD BE AN INADVERTENCE OF NOT EXTENDING. AND I THINK THAT IS A FAIR CHARACTERIZATION
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HERE. IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT IT DID EXPIRE. I AGREE. ALL RIGHT. BUT I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT THAT THE FACT PATTERN HERE IS THAT EXPIRED OUT OF INADVERTENCE NOBODY NOTICED. BUT BUT THERE WERE STILL OUT THERE HUSTLING ON IT AND WE WERE CERTAINLY STILL TALKING TO INDIAN TOWN REALTY, YOU KNOW, CONCERNING THEIR WORK DOING IT AND SO ON.IT IS MY POSITION AND I'M DONE. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR THIS EXTENSION. YOU GUYS CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO NOT TRYING TO PERSUADE YOU OTHERWISE. I'M JUST SHARING WITH YOU JUST SO FOLKS UNDERSTAND THE MERE IDEA OF SOMETHING BEING RETROACTIVE DOESN'T MAKE IT WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT I DON'T ARGUE. I CAN'T ARGUE WITH YOUR CHARACTERIZATION. THAT'S YOUR JUDGMENT. IT EXPIRED. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE IS WHO IS THE BROKER? THERE IS NO BROKER. SO WHERE'S THE TRANSPARENCY? THAT'S. THAT'S MY BIG THING. IT'S JUST GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR COMMENTS AND MAKE YOUR COMMENTS AND THEN WE'LL EXPLAIN I'LL EXPLAIN HOW WE GOT HERE OKAY OKAY OKAY I'M DONE. YOU DONE. GO AHEAD. WHAT'S YOUR HELP IF I HAVE THIS ON, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF YOU CREATING THE CONTRACT TONIGHT? WHERE ARE WE HERE TO DO TONIGHT? THAT'S WHAT. FIRST QUESTION. YEAH. BEFORE YOU. YEAH. BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS CONSIDERATION OF THIS AMENDMENT THAT EXTENDS THE TERM MODIFIES THE PAYMENT TERMS. THANK YOU. SECOND DO WE HAVE A WRITTEN CONTRACT AND OR BUYER OR DO WE HAVE A PROSPECTIVE BUYER WITH THE VILLAGE IS NOT UNDER CONTRACT WITH ANY BUYER FOR THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY OF THE FIVE ACRES AT THIS TIME. SO WE DON'T HAVE A BUYER. THANK YOU. OKAY. NOW I'LL EXPLAIN HOW WE GOT HERE, HOW WE GOT TO TO TONIGHT. SO AS YOU MAY KNOW, I HAVE BEEN ACTIVE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. TO BRING OPPORTUNITIES TO INDIAN TOWN.
AND I HAD A DISCUSSION A LONG TIME AGO WITH THIS GENTLEMAN ABOUT THAT LOT. AND WE SHARED KIND OF THE SAME VISION FOR IT. AND HE OWNS MANY, MANY PROPERTIES IN FLORIDA AND GEORGIA AND I THINK CALIFORNIA, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND. YOU KNOW, HE SAID, BUT, CARMINE, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO SIT ON TO JUST BUY SPEND $3.2 MILLION ON A PIECE OF LAND THAT I CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE WATER. SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING AND TALKING AND TALKING AND TALKING MEETING. I PROBABLY SMOKED FIVE BOXES OF CIGARS WITH THIS GUY. AND SO I SAID, WELL, WHAT'S IT GOING TO TAKE? AND IF YOU REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WHEN I CAME TO THIS COUNCIL SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, I SAID, I ASKED YOU ALL NOT FOR A VOTE, BUT JUST IN THE DISCUSSION. WOULD YOU BE WILLING IF I BROUGHT A BUYER FORWARD TO. TAKE $1 MILLION AND HOLD THE REST UNTIL WE GET WATER, WHICH WOULD COMMIT HIM TO THE LOT? BUT HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT OUT $3.2 MILLION. AND WE ALL SAID YES, WE WOULD DO THAT. SO. AND HE WAS WATCHING. I EVEN SAID IT THAT NIGHT. HE'S WATCHING. OKAY, OKAY. AND YOU KNOW, WE WANTED WE TALKED ABOUT INTEREST AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. BUT HE WANTS GUARANTEES TO IF HE PUTS $1 MILLION DOWN OKAY. AND WE DON'T SUPPLY HIM THE WATER IN X AMOUNT OF TIME. I MEAN YOU WANT TO PUT TIME OKAY. YOU GOTTA YOU GOTTA PAY THE PAY THE REST OF THE BILL. WHEN YOU GET YOUR WATER, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU YOUR WATER AT SUCH AND SUCH A DATE, OKAY? EVERYTHING HAS TO COME TOGETHER. SO IT'S NOT AS CLEAN CUT AS SELLING A HOUSE.
THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES IN IT. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN GO WRONG. OKAY. SO.
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KEVIN DOESN'T KNOW HIM, BUT HE KNOWS KEVIN. HE KNOWS INDIAN TOWN. AND HE'S A GUY. THAT'S ALL ABOUT LOYALTY. AND DOING THE RIGHT THING. LISTEN, I'M NOT I'M A MESSENGER. I'M JUST A MESSENGER, OKAY? I'M. I SIGNED A PIECE OF PAPER THAT I WOULD NOT DISCLOSE WHO IT IS, AND I CAN'T DISCLOSE WHO IT IS, BUT HE WILL BE ABLE TO DISCLOSE WHO IT IS. SO. IF YOU WANT TO SELL THE LOT, AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT $120,000 THAT YOU GOT TO PAY IN COMMISSION FOR A LOT THAT YOU'RE MAKING, I MEAN, DO THE MATH. WHAT WE'RE MAKING ON THAT LOT, WOULD YOU RATHER LET IT SIT THERE FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS, OR WOULD YOU RATHER JUST SELL IT AND GET THE DEAL DONE? I SAY SELL IT AND GET THE DEAL DONE. I SAY GET THAT TO COMMIT TO THE WATER, SAY, HEY, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU WATER ON THIS, THIS DATE. AND THIS IS WHEN OUR, OUR MONEY'S GOING TO BE DUE.OKAY. AND THEN. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HE'S READING COMMENTS THAT, OH, WE DON'T WANT A THREE STORY BUILDING IN INDIAN TOWN WHEN YOU COME OVER THE BRIDGE AND YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT FOR PALM BEACH GARDENS, BUT IT'S NOT INDIAN TOWN, YOU KNOW, STUFF, COMMENTS LIKE THAT TEND TO MAKE SOMEBODY COLD AND NOT NOT WANT NOT WANT TO COME. OKAY, NOW I GOT A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS PERSON AND I'M NOT GOING TO RUIN MY RELATIONSHIP OVER ANYTHING WITH HIM BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING, GOING TO TALLAHASSEE, GOING TO, YOU KNOW, OUR GETTING THE MONEY THAT WE'RE GETTING THAT, THAT FOR THE WATER PLANT AND EVERYTHING. IT'S ALL RELATIONSHIPS. IT'S BUILT ON RELATIONSHIPS AND RELATIONSHIPS ARE IMPORTANT. AND HE KNOWS KEVIN DOESN'T KNOW HIM, BUT HE KNOWS KEVIN AND HE KNOWS DAVID.
I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT. SO WHAT THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, IF THEY WANT TO RENEW HIS HIS CONTRACT TO SELL THE LOT, AND HE CAN RENEW THE CONTRACT TO SELL THE LOT, AND THEN AT THAT POINT. HE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING WHOEVER IT IS FORWARD. AND THAT'S ALL I CAN DO, AND THAT'S THE BEST I CAN DO. I'VE WORKED JUST LIKE I'VE WORKED FOR THREE YEARS, TO GET THIS LOT BACK HERE, TO GET THEM, TO GET OMAR'S GROUP, TO SELL US THAT LOT. IT'S BEEN A HARD FIGHT TO GET THAT DONE BECAUSE THEY NEVER SELL A PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND IT'S THE SAME THING WITH THIS GUY. IT'S A HARD SELL TO BRING A PROJECT TO INDIAN TOWN. THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO END UP BEING LIKE 15 OR $16 MILLION. OKAY. THAT'S A BIG INVESTMENT TO MAKE IN THIS VILLAGE. SO I HAVE TO RESPECT HIS WISHES. AND THIS IS WHAT HIS WISHES ARE. AND IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD ON RENEWING THEIR CONTRACT, INDIAN TOWN REALTY'S CONTRACT, THEN THEN WE HAVE A PROBABLY ABOUT A 95% CHANCE OF SELLING THAT LOT. IF WE DON'T, THEN. WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
PERMISSION TO SPEAK? GO AHEAD. OKAY, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF CHICANERY. THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. LIKE WHAT MESS? NO TRANSPARENCY, NO LOYALTY TO THIS COMMUNITY. YOU SIGNED THE CONTRACT, RIGHT? YOU. WE DIDN'T. WE DIDN'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS CONTRACT. FOR YOU TO BE BEHOLDEN TO THIS GENTLEMAN. YES. WHAT YOU SAID. HOLD ON. I SIGNED A NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT. OKAY, OKAY. YOU DID THAT FOR YOU, RIGHT? THAT WAS NOT ON BEHALF OF THIS COUNCIL.
CORRECT HIM. BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT ME TO PUT HIS NAME OUT THERE. OKAY, SO WE DON'T KNOW WHO THIS IS. NO YOU DON'T. OKAY. SO THAT THAT'S THE PROBLEM RIGHT THERE. NUMBER ONE, WHY IS HE SO SECRET? WHY HE WANT TO BE ANONYMOUS. THAT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT TRANSPARENCY. THERE IS NONE. WE TALKED ABOUT LOYALTY. THIS COUNCIL WASN'T INVOLVED IN WHAT YOU DID. THAT'S THAT'S NOT RIGHT. THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT IS NOT RIGHT. SO YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ON OUR BEHALF. YOU DID THAT FOR YOU. NO I DIDN'T. YES YOU DID. YOU HAD TO DO IT FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU SAID I DID THIS. YOU PROMISED THIS GUY WHATEVER. I DIDN'T PROMISE HIM ANYTHING. YOU, YOU YOU YOU WON'T TELL US WHO HE IS. IT'S NOT UP TO ME TO
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TELL HIM. OKAY, WELL, I'M. I CAN'T I CANNOT GIVE CREDENCE TO IT BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MALARKEY. AND I DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT EITHER. I DON'T WANT THIS, THIS COMMUNITY TO SAY THAT. HEY, Y'ALL DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT Y'ALL DOING. Y'ALL SIGNING STUFF. NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING BUT YOU. KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT IN DEFENSE OF THIS NON-DISCLOSURES ARE VERY, VERY TYPICAL IN LARGE TRANSACTIONS. OKAY, SO THAT THE MAYOR DID NOTHING WRONG IN SIGNING A NONDISCLOSURE, NOR DOES HE BENEFIT OTHER THAN BRINGING THAT BUYER TO THE TABLE. I LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THE MAYOR HAS BROUGHT TO THE TABLE. I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. I THINK IF THIS GENTLEMAN WANTS TO COME HERE AND IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY AND PUT DOWN $1 MILLION AND WAIT, I THINK THAT'S FABULOUS. THE MAYOR HAS DONE US A HUGE FAVOR.NOW YOU'RE BACK. NO, I AM NOT. I'M TALKING ABOUT. NO, I'M NOT MESSING UP. LET ME FIGURE. LET ME FINISH. WHAT I DON'T LIKE IS PAYING A FEE TO A BROKER THAT WAS NOT INVOLVED IN BRINGING THE BUYER. I DO NOT LIKE RETROACTIVE LISTINGS. THE LISTING HAD EXPIRED. NOW, WHAT THE MAYOR BROUGHT AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THE MAYOR BRINGING THIS BUYER IS A GOOD THING, BUT NO REALTOR WAS INVOLVED. THEREFORE, NO REAL ESTATE COMMISSION HAS BEEN EARNED. AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER, HAD THERE BEEN AN ACTIVE EXCLUSIVE LISTING, THAT LISTING WOULD HAVE STOOD AND NO MATTER WHO BROUGHT THE BUYER, INDIAN TOWN REALTY WOULD HAVE BEEN OWED A COMMISSION. THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS. HOWEVER, THE LISTING WAS ALLOWED TO LAPSE. I UNDERSTAND THINGS HAPPEN. IT'S A HORRIBLE TIMING SITUATION AND THAT HORRIBLE TIMING SITUATION IS WHAT MAKES THIS LOOK BAD. RETROACTIVELY PAYING TO INVOLVE A BROKER AFTER THE BUYER HAS ALREADY COME FORWARD AND SAID THEY'RE INTERESTED, AND THEY WOULD DO THIS, THIS AND THIS. I DID NOT KNOW WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, THAT THERE WAS A LAPSE IN THE LISTING. APPARENTLY, NO ONE KNEW THE FACT THAT WE BROUGHT A BUYER THAT WAS NOT REPRESENTED BY A BROKER AND THEN LATER WANT TO SIGN THE BROKER UP TO EARN A COMMISSION ON THAT SALE BOTHERS ME. I WENT STRAIGHT TO MR. POWERS AND SAT WITH HIM FOR AN HOUR AND EXPLAINED TO HIM EXACTLY WHY IT BOTHERED ME, AND HE AGREED WITH ME THAT IT DIDN'T LOOK GOOD. WE DISCUSSED EXCLUDING THIS BUYER, AND WE DISCUSSED THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE BUYER IS. HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE AN HONEST ENOUGH PERSON THAT WHEN THIS BUYER COMES FORWARD AND WE HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT ALL OF US ARE HAVE THE INTEGRITY TO EXCLUDE HIM FROM, OWING FROM US, FROM OWING A COMMISSION WHEN A REALTOR WAS NOT INVOLVED. IT'S 120 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS. I AM ALL FOR LETTING THE POWERS CONTINUE TO MARKET. IN CASE THIS DOESN'T WORK. HOWEVER, THIS BUYER, JUST BASED ON INTEGRITY ALONE MUST BE EXCLUDED FROM ANY COMMISSION PAID BY THE COMMUNITY. IF YOUR BUYER WANTS TO USE MR. POWERS, IT IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR THE BUYER TO PAY A COMMISSION. THAT'S FINE. I'D LOVE TO SEE HIM GET IT, BUT US PAYING FOR A RETROACTIVE AFTER THE FACT COMMISSION DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT TO ME. OKAY. AND I WILL VOTE TO RENEW MR. POWERS LISTING AS LONG AS THAT BUYER IS EXCLUDED.
NOW, I AM ALL FOR SETTING A TIME FRAME. LET'S SAY SIX MONTHS. IF HE DOESN'T COME FORWARD AND MAKE A CONTRACT IN SIX MONTHS, THEN. HE'S ALL YOURS. 180 DAYS FOR YOU TO GET THIS BUYER ON PAPERWORK WITHOUT US HAVING TO PAY $120,000 COMMISSION. AFTER THAT, HE CAN CONTACT THE PEOPLE LISTING IT, BUT IT DOES NOT. IT IS NOT OKAY TO COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GREAT GUYS. THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK FOR US IN THE PAST
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WHERE WE LOVE THEM. EVERYBODY LIKES THE POWERS. THEY'RE GREAT PEOPLE TO COME BACK AND SAY, EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T LISTED, WE'RE GOING TO RETROACTIVELY LIST IT AND PAY SOMEBODY $128,000 TO DO WHAT? WRITE A CONTRACT. NOW, OUR ATTORNEY CAN DO THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE PAY HIM FOR. HE'S MORE THAN CAPABLE OF DOING THAT. NO. NO REALTOR IS NECESSARY IN THIS CASE. AND THAT'S WHERE I STAND. THAT'S MY WHERE MY VOTE WILL BE. YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT IT. DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. GOD LOVE YOU, KEVIN. THAT'S NOTHING PERSONAL. YOU AND I DISCUSSED THIS. YOU KNOW WHERE I STAND, AND I'M JUST ADAMANT ABOUT IT. IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD. IT ISN'T APPROPRIATE, AND IT'S NOT EVEN NECESSARY. ALL FOR HIM BRINGING US A BUYER. MORE POWER TO HIM. LET'S DO IT.BUT NOT NO PAYING COMMISSION ON THIS ONE. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? GO AHEAD. VICE MAYOR, WE CAME HERE TONIGHT TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO RENEW THE LEASE. THE AMENDED LEASE? CORRECT. LISTING THE LISTING. YEAH. I VOTE THAT WE DO. SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE CONTRACT WITH UNIONTOWN REALTY. AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS SALE LOOKS. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ANOTHER DAY. IT'S JUST NOT HOW IT LOOKS FOR THAT. IT'S.
THE TERMS OF THE SALE FOR THIS PROPERTY HAS CHANGED. WHEN WE FIRST PUT THE THE THE LAND FOR SALE, WE ASKED FOR MONEY AMOUNT AND THERE WAS NO WE'LL HOLD THE NOTE OR WE'LL HOLD THIS OR INTEREST THIS OR INTEREST THAT. IT WAS JUST THE STRAIGHT SALE OF THE PROPERTY THAT HAS CHANGED. THAT IS DIFFERENT. WE NEED A BROKER, A REALTOR TO REPRESENT US. AND SO I MAKE THE MOTION OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE MADE BY VICE MAYOR. SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN PEREZ. ALL IN FAVOR? NO. WHAT DID YOU RING? NO, I'M JUST MAKING SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS I SAID NO. OKAY, WHY DON'T WE TAKE A ROLL CALL? COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER. WILLIAMS. PALMER. I'M DEBATING. COUNCIL MEMBER. PEREZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SAWYER. NO. VICE MAYOR.
WATERS. BROWN. YES. MAYOR. DEPAOLO. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIAMS. PALMER. OKAY. WHAT WAS THAT? NO. OH. NO. OKAY. MOTION PASSES 3 TO 2. OKAY. DISCUSSION ITEMS. AND DISCUSSION ITEMS. NO. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR. I SAW SOME PEOPLE CAME IN AFTER
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WE GOT STARTED. NO, SIR. NOTHING. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS I DO OKAY. PLEASE JOIN US FOR MUSIC AT THE MARINA ON NOVEMBER 16TH AT 2 P.M. IT'S TWO UNTIL FIVE. IT'S BYOB. WE HAVE FOOD TRUCKS FOR IF YOU WANT SOMETHING TO EAT. WE HAVE ONE RAMONA ON THE 16TH THAT BEGINS AT 2:00, WHICH IS A SUNDAY. THE FOLLOWING SUNDAY IS NOVEMBER 23RD, WHICH IS MATT BUTLER, WHICH IS COUNTRY. SO AGAIN, SUNDAY COMING, WHICH IS NOVEMBER 16TH. WE HAVE ONE RAMONA. ON NOVEMBER 23RD, WE HAVE COUNTRY WITH MATT BUTLER. DECEMBER THE 7TH WE HAVE JIMMY WITH BAHAMIAN STEEL DRUMS, AND WE HAVE OUR JANUARY 31ST ANNUAL COMMUNITY ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP. SO YEAH, IT'S COMING QUICKLY. SO THAT'S AGAIN ON JANUARY 31ST, WHICH IS A SATURDAY. COME OUT AND JOIN US FOR ALL OF THESE AND MEET YOUR NEIGHBORS. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN PEREZ, OUR NEXT MOBILE FOOD DRIVE IS NEXT THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 20TH, 8 A.M. AT TIMER POWERS PARK. ALL RIGHT.[NEXT REGULAR MEETING (ANNOUNCE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION)]
OUR NEXT MEETING IS FOR THE 20TH OF OCTOBER, I BELIEVE. NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER. NO, NO. NO.[00:55:02]
OCTOBER. YEAH. NEXT WEEK. NEXT THURSDAY. NEXT THURSDAY. RIGHT HERE AT 6:00, I BELIEVE I HAD SAID I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE HERE, BUT IT'S NEXT. IF IT'S NEXT THURSDAY, I AM HERE. YES.I MIGHT NOT MAKE IT BECAUSE I HAVE SURGERY SCHEDULED ON TUESDAY. OH, SO PENDING HOW I YEAH, I FORGOT ABOUT IT WHEN I SAID, YEAH, I'LL BE HERE. THAT'S FINE. WHAT ABOUT WE HAVE THE WORKSHOP THAT'S STILL PLANNED, RIGHT? I SAW SOMETHING IN HERE ABOUT THE. NOT KNOW. I KNOW I DID AT THE JOINT MEETING DATES ON THE BOTTOM OF YOUR 2026. NO, I SAW SOMETHING ABOUT A WORKSHOP AT THE ON THE 18TH. OKAY. COMPREHENSION. YEAH. OH, YEAH. THAT THAT'S NOT FOR THE COUNCIL. THAT'S THAT'S JUST FOR THE PUBLIC. YEAH. THAT'LL BE OVER AT THE LIBRARY WHERE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE YOU'RE WELCOME TO ATTEND BUT IT'S TO GET PUBLIC COMMENT ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OKAY. OKAY. AND. AND ARE THESE GETTING THIS ARE TYPICAL EVERY OTHER THURSDAY. YES. THE SECOND AND FOURTH THURSDAY. YES. YES. SO ON THE 18TH AT 530 AT THE LIBRARY HERE IN INDIANTOWN, THEY WILL BE HAVING AN OPEN FORUM TO GET COMMENTS FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC. WE HAD ONE AT HOLY CROSS PREVIOUSLY, A WEEK OR WEEK AND A HALF OR SO, AND WE ONLY HAD TWO IN ATTENDANCE, SO WE'RE HOPING FOR BETTER ATTENDANCE. AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
ACTUALLY, LET ME JUST ASK REAL QUICK, BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ POSSIBLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE GOING TO BE PHYSICALLY ABLE TO BE PHYSICALLY IN THE ROOM? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, I'LL BE HERE. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. SO WE'RE GOOD ON THAT. FANTASTIC. OKAY. VERY GOOD. SO WE GOT NEXT NEXT WEEK SAME TIME.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.