Sep 11, 2025 Budget Workshop/Hearing

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CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. NICE MEETING IS GOING TO BE IN TWO DIFFERENT TWO MEETINGS.

FIRST MEETING IS STARTING. NOW IS GOING TO BE OUR BUDGET MEETING. AND THEN AT 630, WE'LL START OUR REGULAR MEETING. MADAM CLERK, I HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MAYOR DEPALO HERE. VICE MAYOR PEREZ HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. PALMER. COUNCIL MEMBER. BROWN HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

ANSORGE HERE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE AUGUST 28TH INDIAN TOWN VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING. I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU TO SILENCE YOUR PHONES. THE BATHROOM IS LOCATED THROUGH THE DOOR ON YOUR LEFT. EXIT DOOR IS LOCATED TO YOUR LEFT AND RIGHT, CLEARLY MARKED WITH EXIT SIGNS. TONIGHT YOU'LL HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK. THE FIRST WILL BE DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SEGMENT, AT WHICH TIME YOU CAN COMMENT ON ANY TOPIC THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. NOW, OUR MEETING THAT WE HAVE IN OUR FIRST MEETING, OUR BUDGET MEETING, YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO COMMENT ON THAT ALSO. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES IN EACH SEGMENT. AND PLEASE ADHERE TO THE CIVILITY PRACTICE AT THIS AND ALL COUNCIL MEETINGS. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO STAND FOR THE INVOCATION GIVEN BY PASTOR WILLIAMS. TO REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I HAVE A QUESTION, PASTOR CAN TURN THE MICROPHONE. ONE OF MY JOHN 1633. THESE THINGS I HAVE SPOKEN, THESE THINGS I HAVE SPOKEN UNTO YOU, THAT THAT IN ME YOU MIGHT HAVE PEACE. IN THE WORLD YE SHALL HAVE TRIBULATION. BUT BE OF GOOD CHEER. I HAVE OVERCOME THE WORLD. OUR KIND FATHER IN HEAVEN. WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

WE HAVE TO EXERCISE OUR CIVIL OBLIGATIONS AND RIGHTS THAT WE MAY PARTAKE IN THIS GOVERNMENT HERE. AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE BLESSINGS THAT WAS POURED UPON US. AND OUR HEART. HEARTS ACHE FOR THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN OUR WORLD TODAY. AND WE PRAY THAT WE CAN, THROUGH THE OVERCOME THESE THINGS. WE ASK THAT THY SPIRIT BE WITH US, THAT WE MAY REACH OUT TO ONE ANOTHER AND AND SHOW OUR LOVE. WE PRAY THAT THY SPIRIT WILL LINGER HERE IN THIS MEETING, THAT WE MAY WORK TOGETHER TO ACCOMPLISH THE THINGS. TO KEEP THIS VILLAGE AS WONDERFUL AS IT IS. AND WE PRAY FOR THOSE THAT LOST THEIR LIVES 24 YEARS AGO TODAY AND FOR THEIR FAMILIES. AND WE PRAY THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THIS HEALING PROCESS. AND THIS IS OUR PRAYER IN THE NAME OF OUR SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST. AMEN. AMEN. ALSO, I'D LIKE TO BEFORE WE DO THAT, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE. AND THEN I HAVE SOMETHING HERE I'VE BEEN ASKED TO READ. SO THIS. IS THE COURAGE, HEROISM AND RESILIENCE AMERICANS DISPLAYED ON NINE OVER 11 AND IN ITS AFTERMATH ARE PERPETUAL OR PERPETUAL TESTAMENTS OF THE SPIRIT OF OUR COUNTRY. WHILE OUR NATION WAS ANGUISHED BY THIS ATTACK, THE GRIT DISPLAYED THAT DAY, THE VERY ESSENCE OF AMERICA WAS A REMINDER THAT OUR CITIZENS HAVE NEVER FAILED TO RISE TO THE OCCASION. HEROES SPRANG INTO ACTION IN THE FACE OF GREAT PERIL TO HELP SAVE THEIR FELLOW AMERICANS. MANY LAID DOWN THEIR LIVES AS WE REFLECT ON THE EVENTS OF THAT SEPTEMBER MORNING. LET US RECOMMIT TO EMBRACE THE STALWART BRAVERY DISPLAYED AND REAFFIRMED OUR DEDICATION TO DEFENDING LIBERTY FROM ALL WHO WISH TO DENY IT, TO TO FULFILL OUR COLLECTIVE PROMISE NEVER TO FORGET. WE IMPART THE MEMORY OF THAT FATEFUL DAY TO OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN, THE SMOKE THAT ROSE FROM THE TWIN TOWERS, THE PENTAGON AND THE PENNSYLVANIA FIELD CARRIED AWAY THE SOULS OF INNOCENT AMERICANS. AS WE RECALL THE IMAGES, THE AMERICAN FLAG RAISED FROM THE ASHES OF GROUND ZERO AND THE PENTAGON WERE REMINDED THAT GOOD TRIUMPHS OVER EVIL. WE RECOMMIT OURSELVES TO FORTIFYING OUR CHERISHED AMERICAN VALUES SO THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL KNOW OF THEIR SOULS, AND THE UNITED STATES IS. AND THAT THE UNITED STATES IS THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE. ON TODAY'S SEPTEMBER 11TH, WE COMMEMORATE THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO PERISHED ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001. WE PRAY FOR THE FAMILIES WHO CARRY ON THEIR LEGACIES, AND WE HONOR THE UNMATCHED BRAVERY OF OUR

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[1) APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

[2) VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA  RESOLUTION NO. XXX-2025 A RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, ADOPTING A TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE FOR THE LEVY OF AD VALOREM TAXATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025-2026; AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ]

IN ACCORDANCE WITH FLORIDA STATE STATUTE 200.065 TWO ONE, THE FIRST SUBSTANTIVE ISSUE DISCUSSED SHALL BE THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE IN THE MILLAGE OVER THE ROLLBACK RATE FOR THIS BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 2026. THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN IS CONSIDERING A LEVY OF 1.825 MILLS, WHICH IS A 4.73% DECREASE OVER THE ROLLBACK RATE OF 1.9157. THE MILLAGE RATE OF 1.8250 WILL GENERATE NET AD VALOREM TAX REVENUES OF $4,108,310, WHICH IS $175,900 LESS THAN THE CURRENT YEAR TAX REVENUE. REVENUES AT THE REQUIRED 95%.

CALCULATION. PROPERTY TAX REVENUE MAKES UP APPROXIMATELY 51.4% OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET. OKAY, THIS WAS ADVERTISED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC REGARDING THE TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, SIR? MISS LINDA NICCUM. NO, ON THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. SO. NO, SIR. NO. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY MORE? THERE'S NO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. HOW ABOUT THE. HOW ABOUT THE VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS? DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANY DISCUSSION? NO. OKAY. THIS TIME I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 0009 DASH 2025, APPROVING THE TENTATIVE PROPERTY TAX MILLAGE RATE OF 1.8250. THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE FOR ALL GENERAL VILLAGE PURPOSES, WILL BE 1.8250, WHICH REPRESENTS A 4.73% DECREASE IN THE MILLAGE RATE OVER THE ROLLBACK RATE OF 1.9157. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE MILLAGE RATE. OKAY. MOTION MADE BY SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN. WILLIAMS, FORMER MAYOR. WILLIAMS. ALL THE MOTION.

I'LL MAKE SURE YOU PUT PALMER. NOW, I GOTTA HONOR MY HUSBAND. WILLIAMS. PALMER. WILLIAMS.

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[3) VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA RESOLUTION NO. XXX-2025 A RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, ADOPTING THE TENTATIVE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2025, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2026; SPECIFYING THE DATE, TIME, AND PLACE OF THE SECOND AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT A FINAL BUDGET; AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.]

THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET REPRESENTS A 5.5% DECREASE FROM THE FY 25 ADOPTED BUDGET.

PROPOSED EXPENDITURES ARE BASED UPON PRIOR YEAR EXPENDITURES AND THE CONTINUANCE OF ANTICIPATED EXPENDITURES FOR THE COMING YEAR. THE PROPOSED BUDGET INCLUDES FUNDING TO SUPPORT CORE FUNCTIONS OF THE VILLAGE. ALSO SUPPORTED IN THIS BUDGET IS A RENEWED SPONSORSHIP WITH THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD OF $15,000, WHICH WAS APPROVED SAME AMOUNT APPROVED LAST YEAR, AS WELL AS A TAX INCENTIVE GRANT TO FPNL OF AN ANTICIPATED $794,630, AND ALSO ANTICIPATED INFLATION FOR COSTS AND SALARIES AND OPERATIONS AND CAPITAL. THE WATER AND WASTEWATER FUND FOR FY 2025 2026 PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE WASTEWATER AND WASTEWATER ENTERPRISE FUND IS $3,335,165, A 5.7% INCREASE OVER THE CURRENT YEAR. THE WATER AND WASTEWATER ENTERPRISE FUND IS A BUSINESS TYPE FUND, WHICH IS TO BE SUPPORTED BY USER FEES CHARGED TO THE RATE PAYERS. THE BUDGET IS BASED UPON ANALYSIS OF PAST YEARS AND CURRENT YEAR OF OPERATING HISTORY. IN FY 25, THE VILLAGE EXPERIENCED FAILED INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH MOST LIKELY WILL CONTINUE DUE TO THE AGE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, PRIMARILY WITH THE SERVICE PUMPS AND MAIN LINES THAT SUPPORT THE EXISTING WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS. IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND. FY 2025 2026 PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND IS $30,025,000. THIS FUND ADDED TO THE BUDGET TO REFLECT THE FUNDING RECEIVED FROM THE STATE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND ANTICIPATED EXPENDITURES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, WHICH HAS BEGUN ON THE NEW WATER TREATMENT PLANT, AS WELL AS OTHER ROAD AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. IN SUMMARY AND CONCLUSION, THE FY 2025 2026 TENTATIVE BUDGET IS BALANCED AND IS A NEEDS BASED BUDGET. THIS BUDGET PROVIDES FUNDING FOR CORE OPERATIONS OF THE VILLAGE. DUE TO SOME FISCAL CONSTRAINTS, SOME PROGRAMS HAD

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GO AHEAD. NO. GO! MR. FLORIO, CAN YOU PLEASE COME TO THE MIC? I GAVE YOU A PHONE CALL LAST WEEK AND YOU EXPLAINED IT TO ME AND I UNDERSTAND IT. TELL. TELL US THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONTRACTUAL SERVICE AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK ON THE THE BUDGET, I SEE EVERY DEPARTMENT HAS THEIR OWN CONTRACTUAL AND THEIR OWN PROFESSIONAL ONE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN AGAIN SO COUNCIL WILL KNOW? YEAH. PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ARE GENERALLY CLASSIFIED AS I GUESS TO MAKE IT AS AS BASIC AS POSSIBLE WHITE COLLAR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. SO LEGAL FEES, PLANNING FEES COSTS, ACCOUNTING AND AUDITING. ARCHITECTURAL LANDSCAPING WOULD ALSO BE INCLUDED IN THAT. THOSE ARE YOUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

CONTRACTED IS MORE BLUE COLLAR FIELD OPERATIONS RELATED TYPE TYPE SERVICES. SO ANY SORT OF GROUNDS MAINTENANCE PEST CONTROL. YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY BUILDING A FISH IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS CONSIDERED CONTRACTED SERVICES BECAUSE IT'S MORE BLUE COLLAR, YOU KNOW, OCCUPATION. SO THAT'S THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE. THEY YOU'RE I THINK YOUR QUESTION LAST WEEK TOO WAS DO ALL OF THEM HAVE LIKE CONTRACTS PER SE. WE MAY HAVE IN MOST CASES AGREEMENTS WITH THE WITH THE VENDORS FOR THEM, BUT NOT NECESSARILY. IT'S REALLY A CLASSIFICATION OF THE FUNCTIONAL TYPE OF EXPENSE. OKAY. THE OTHER QUESTION IS GOING AWAY. ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE IN RESERVE? HOW IS THAT DETERMINED? AND WHAT'S THE GOAL FOR THE RESERVE? IS THAT THE SAME THING AS THE EMERGENCY FUNDS? IS THAT ONE IN THE SAME.

WELL, WE HAVEN'T ADOPTED A POLICY ON FUND BALANCE IN TERMS OF LIKE RESERVES PER SE. THAT'S I THINK, A POLICY THAT I DO NEED TO BRING FORWARD. I HAVE PLANNED ON IT. I HAVE NOT DONE THAT. RESERVES ARE TYPICALLY IN MOST MUNICIPALITIES. THEY'RE GOING TO BE A FORMULA BASED METHOD WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BETWEEN 8 AND 10% OF YOUR BUDGETED EXPENDITURES AS PART OF YOUR RESERVE. OKAY. IN OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED FUND BALANCE.

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THERE'S ALSO, I THINK, REVENUE RECEIPTS THAT WILL BE PART OF THAT FESTIVAL, WHICH ARE ALSO NOT IN THE BUDGET. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE THAT WOULD BE. SO I CAN'T TELL YOU THE SPECIFICS. WHAT WOULD THAT WILL COST? OKAY. THERE WAS A LINE ITEM ABOUT. THE BUS ON THE WEEKEND. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT. I MADE A PHONE CALL TO SENIOR RESOURCE AND SPOKE WITH CHRIS. THE RIDERSHIP FOR SATURDAY FOR THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS, FOR THE FIRST EIGHT MONTHS OF 2025, FOR SATURDAY ONLY IS GREATER THAN THE RIDERSHIP OF MARTY MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. SO FOR THE IT ENDED IN JUNE. SO JUNE, 1ST JULY AND AUGUST, THERE WERE 9400 PEOPLE ON THE BUS FOR ONE DAY. SO WE'RE ENDING THAT SERVICE. WHICH I, I THINK WE NEED TO FIND ANOTHER WAY. SO TO TRY TO HAVE IT, WHEN WE SPOKE ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE THAT WAS IN THE BUDGET, WHICH WAS THE. DEPUTY VILLAGE MANAGER FOR ME, I THINK THE VILLAGE COUNCIL, THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO CHOOSE THAT ONE, NOT SOMEBODY THAT WE HIRE TO DO THAT WITH FORM A COMMITTEE, A VOTING COMMITTEE, HAVE ABOUT FIVE PEOPLE AND CHOOSE FROM THOSE PEOPLE WHO THEY RECOMMEND FOR US TO CHOOSE TO BE VILLAGE MANAGER. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET FOR THAT, I THINK IT WAS LIKE $130,000. THAT WOULD BE AN ANNUAL COST FOR THE ANNUAL COST. THAT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET, THOUGH. SO FOR THE BUDGET IS 30 TO 5. YEAH. AND THAT WAS FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS OF FISCAL YEAR 26. YEAH. WHEN I SPOKE WITH CHRIS STEVENSON, HE TOLD ME IT'S ABOUT 35, 40,000, APPROXIMATELY $35,000 FOR THE ADOPTION OF KEEPING THE BUS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO OTHER WAY OF GETTING THEIR SHOPPING DONE. WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT HERE WITHIN THE VILLAGE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE RESOURCES TO DO THAT. WE DON'T HAVE THE STORES AND THE VARIETIES. AND SO THE ONLY WAY TO GET IT IS TO GET ON THE BUS AND GO. SO I KNOW, I KNOW THE BUDGET SITE, I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT, BUT I THINK WE PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT WE WHAT WE PRIORITIZE. SO BY PRIORITIZING TO ME THAT WE WANT TO HIRE A PART TIME, WELL, IT SHOULD BE FULL TIME OVER THE BUS RIDERS OR WHAT WE OPTED TO CUT WAS NOT IT'S NOT A GOOD OPTIC. IT SAYS WE PREFER GOVERNMENT OVER WHAT'S BETTER FOR OR WHAT HELPS THE VILLAGE RIDERS. SO THAT FOR ME WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. ON THE BUDGET FOR COUNCIL, THERE WAS, WHAT WAS IT, TWO AND A HALF FULL TIME. WHAT'S WHO WERE THE TWO? AND IT'S ALL OF YOU CONSIDERED A HALF FTE. SO TWO AND A HALF TOTAL FTE. SO I SAW FIVE, WHICH WAS US. YES. AND

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THAT'S TWO AND A HALF. FIVE. OH NEVER MIND. YEP. GOT IT. WE'RE PART TIME. YEAH. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT. SURE. I HAVE A COMMENT. IT'S OKAY. SO RIGHT OFF OF THIS ONE. SO I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. WE CAN PUT THE RIDERS BACK ON THE BUSSES BY CUTTING THE SALARIES FROM THE COUNCIL AND GOING TO A STIPEND PER MEETING. WE HAVE A BUDGET AND I'M SURE THIS IS VERY. CAN YOU TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON, PLEASE? IT'S ON. OKAY. I'M SURE THIS IS A VERY UNPOPULAR THING TO SAY, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO SIT UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE POPULATION AND WHERE WE'RE CUTTING THIS AND WHERE WE'RE CUTTING THAT, IT'S SHOULD NOT COME OUT OF OUR STAFF. THIS WOMAN HERE WORKS HER BUTT OFF. WE DON'T. WE SHOW UP TO TWO MEETINGS A MONTH. WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT NOW. WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. I'M GOING TO FINISH WHAT I'VE GOT TO SAY. TAKING. FIRST OF ALL, MISS CRESTA IS THE CITY MANAGER. SHE HIRES THE PERSON THAT WORKS FOR HER. THAT'S HER PRIVILEGE. SECONDLY, WE MAKE MORE MONEY THAN WE SHOULD BE MAKING UP HERE. YOU GUYS MAY NOT LIKE THIS, BUT IT'S TRUE. IF WE'RE GOING TO START TALKING ABOUT CUTTING BUDGETS AND TAKING AWAY FROM THE STAFF, THEN LET'S DO, LET'S, LET'S LET'S PUT OUR MOUTHS WHERE OUR, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY IS. YEAH. WHY ARE WE MAKING $10,000 A YEAR? LET'S TAKE A STIPEND PER MEETING. THAT $10,000 A YEAR. JUST. I'M JUST SAYING FOR ME, ISN'T PAYING MY BILLS. I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE WE GOT PAID. WHEN I GOT UP HERE. I'D BEEN DOING IT FOR FREE AT THE VSBA. I BEAT WHATEVER, I'VE BEEN DOING IT THERE FOR FREE. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE GOT PAID. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO SIT UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE DON'T WANT TO RAISE TAXES, MY GOODNESS, WE WERE GOING TO RAISE TAXES. A WHOLE CHEESEBURGER MEAL ON ON THE RESIDENTS. AND WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE COULDN'T DO THAT. SO WE LEFT OUR VILLAGE IN A DEFICIT. WE LEFT OUR VILLAGE IN A DEFICIT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT THE PEOPLE TO HAVE TO PAY AN EXTRA CHEESEBURGER A YEAR. AND WE ALL SIT UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH WE CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORK HERE, THAT KEEP THIS COMMUNITY RUNNING. THIS GENTLEMAN CANNOT CONTINUE TO WEAR SIX HATS. MISS CHRISTA CANNOT CONTINUE TO WORK WITHOUT HELP. EVERYONE IN HERE ON THIS STAFF WORKS EVERY SINGLE DAY, PLUS OVERTIME. LET'S PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTHS ARE. YEAH, LET'S SEE HOW THEY LIKE THAT ONE. I. I AM NOT SAYING THAT MISS CHRISTA DOES NOT WORK HARD. I'M NOT SAYING TAKE AWAY HER HELP. I'M SAYING IT'S INAPPROPRIATE, IN MY VIEW, FOR HER TO CHOOSE HER SUCCESSOR.

THIS IS GOVERNMENT. IT'S NOT A FAMILY BUSINESS. THE $10,000 YOU TWO DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE GETTING? I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GETTING PAID EITHER. SO IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT WE GET PAID OR WHAT WE DON'T GET PAID. FOR ME, WE HAVE TO BALANCE WHAT'S HERE, AND THAT'S WHAT WORKS.

ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH. TWO. I YIELD TO THE KIND LADY AND MISS COUNCIL. YOU KNOW, THE SENIORS, THE THE SENIOR SERVICE. SO, LIKE KAREN SAID, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT YOUR YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK IT AS SOMEONE WHO IS A VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY, I DON'T MIND GIVING UP MY $10,000 BECAUSE I SEE IT. YOU SEE IT AT THE FOOD DRIVE, YOU SEE IT IN THE COMMUNITY. THERE IS A NEED. NOW WE'RE JUST TAKING THAT ONE TRANSPORTATION AWAY. IF THE IF THE REPORT SAYS THAT THERE WE HAVE THAT MUCH RIDERS. OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN IT'S NEEDED. WE NEED IT.

IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN PROPOSE IT IN THE BUDGET TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE? LIKE I SAID, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE MY LITTLE 10,000. YEAH, I'D RATHER GIVE IT UP TO SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO NEED IT.

BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DON'T WANT THE KID NOT TO HAVE FOOD ON THE TABLE OR NOT HAVE SCHOOL SUPPLIES OR CLOTHES, BECAUSE OVER HERE IT'S COST. THEY'RE SAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE AT WALMART, PUBLIX, I MEAN, WINN-DIXIE. I KNOW, NOT PUBLIX, BUT WINN-DIXIE. YOU KNOW HOW HOW CAN WE MAKE IT HAPPEN? WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S ULTIMATELY I MEAN, IT CAN IT CAN HAPPEN. I GUESS I JUST WILL SAY SOMETHING. SOMETHING ELSE WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED IN THE BUDGET TO MAKE

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RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO. IF WE WANT TO GIVE OUR SALARIES BACK, WE CAN DO THAT. WE CAN DO THAT.

AND THEY CAN. THEY CAN PUT THAT MONEY BACK IN. OR YOU MIGHT WANT TO JUST WRITE THEM A CHECK FOR FOR THE $10,000 AND CONSIDER IT A DONATION. SO YOU CAN AT LEAST YOU CAN AT LEAST YOU MIGHT WANT TO TALK TO A TAX TAX PERSON TO MAKE IT AT LEAST WORTH YOUR WORTH SOMETHING FOR YOU. BUT THAT'S WHERE I SAID I'LL TALK TO MY FINANCIAL ADVISOR. TALK TO YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR. SO. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO PASS THE ADOPTED RESOLUTION? I NEED? AT THIS TIME? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 009 DASH 2025. I'M SORRY 010 2025 FOR THE TENTATIVE BUDGET. OKAY. I'LL MOVE THAT. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT. I MOVE THAT WE. ARE WE NOT DONE DISCUSSING? OH, OKAY. WELL LET'S DISCUSS. NO.

SO. SO IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE THREE OF US SAID THAT WE WOULD BE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP WITH THE BUS RIDERSHIP. I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE UP EVERYTHING, BUT LET'S, YOU KNOW, IF WE WE'RE GOING TO SIT UP HERE AND SAY WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY, THEN LET'S LET'S SHOW THE COMMUNITY WE'RE CONCERNED. MAYBE WE GIVE A PORTION OF OUR SALARIES TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. I MEAN, THAT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. THE MAYOR, I'M SORRY IF THIS OFFENDS ANYONE, PUTS IN WAY MORE TIME THAN ANY OF THE REST OF US. AND AND HAS A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY. BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE MAYBE WE TAKE A PAY CUT AND COVER THE BUS. HOW DO WE DO? HOW DO WE DO THAT, MR. VOSS? WE GOT A COUPLE MOVING PARTS TO. I DIDN'T HAVE THAT ON THE BINGO CARD TONIGHT. WE GOT A THERE ARE A COUPLE MOVING PARTS TO ACTUALLY DECREASE YOUR SALARIES. GIVING IT BACK IS PERFECTLY EASY. NOT WELL, NOT RECEIVING IT'S EASY. AND GIVING IT BACK IS NOT POSSIBLE. WELL. MY BEST RECOLLECTION IS WE HAVEN'T FOOLED WITH IT IN A WHILE. IS WE WOULD NEED TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT A CHANGE IN YOUR SALARY. THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN JUST THE BUDGET. OKAY, NOW KEEP KEEP IN MIND IF IF THE MATTER IS GETTING THE BUDGET WHERE YOU WANT IT TO BE, AND THEN IT'S EFFECTIVELY IF THAT WAS THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, THAT'S WHERE YOU WANTED SOME MONEY TO COME FROM TO GO INTO SOMETHING ELSE. THERE CAN BE AN A BUDGET AMENDMENT A LITTLE BIT LATER ON WHEN WE HAVE THAT OTHER PIECE SYNCED UP WITH IT. WITH ANY CHANGES IN YOUR SALARY, THIS JUST HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THE UNIQUE THINGS THAT ACTUALLY UNDER YOUR CHARTER REQUIRES AN ORDINANCE TO IMPLEMENT THAT. SO NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T DO IT OKAY. SO SO IF WE VOTE ON THE CURRENT BUDGET AS IS TONIGHT, THEN WE ARE LEAVING OUT THE RIDERSHIP. AM I CORRECT? AS OF AS OF RIGHT NOW ON THIS TENTATIVE BUDGET? THAT'S CORRECT. DO KEEP IN MIND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER BUDGET HEARING IN TWO WEEKS WHERE YOU'LL HAVE THE FINAL BUDGET BEFORE YOU. HOW DO WE IF IT'S $35,000 FOR THE IT'S FOR FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. 64. IT WAS 64 FROM NOW UNTIL JULY OF 26. RIGHT. YOU HAD MADE AN AGREEMENT TO UTILIZE SOME OF THE RESERVES TO GET THROUGH FROM THE END OF JULY OR TO DECEMBER TO TO NO TO SEPTEMBER. SEPTEMBER. OKAY. YES. AND THEN YOUR FISCAL YEAR STARTS IN OCTOBER. SO YOU MADE A DECISION TO FUND FROM OCTOBER TO JULY 1ST. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. SO IT IS BEING FUNDED AT LEAST THROUGH JULY. NO, NO THROUGH SEPTEMBER THROUGH THIS MONTH. YEAH. OKAY.

SO SO WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS FOR TONIGHT TO PUT THAT BACK IN THE BUDGET. WELL I MEAN I GUESS WE WOULD HAVE TO I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A MOTION FOR SPECIFIC LINE ITEM ADJUSTMENT. AND I MAKE A MOTION FOR A SPECIFIC LINE ITEM. WELL, YEAH. WAIT A MINUTE. WE GOT

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WE WOULD. YEAH, WE WOULD BE TAKING IT OUT OF OUT OF SURPLUS CASH RESERVE. BASICALLY. I'D HAVE TO DRAW DOWN MONEY OUT OF INVESTMENT TO DO THAT. YEAH OKAY. WE CAN DO THAT. YEAH.

OKAY. SO YOU WANT TO DO THAT. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO. TAKE IT OUT OF INVESTMENT. YES.

OKAY. SO WELL LET ME ASK A QUESTION. I'M SORRY. WHAT? TO TAKE IT OUT OF INVESTMENT. WHAT DOES THAT DO TO. DOES THAT NEGATIVELY AFFECT SOMETHING WHEN YOU TAKE IT OUT I MEAN IT'LL IT'LL IT'LL DECREASE MY PROJECTED, YOU KNOW, INTEREST INCOME BY SOME BY A LITTLE BIT.

I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, IDEALLY YOU DON'T WANT TO USE YOUR SAVINGS FOR RECURRING EXPENSES, RIGHT, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING, THOUGH, THAT IN 3 OR 4 MONTHS WE MAY HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHERE OUR POSITION IS GOING TO BE IN THE COMING YEAR RELATIVE TO THIS GRANT. AND THEN IF YOU DON'T GET THE GRANT AGAIN, THEN THE VILLAGE WILL BE HAVING TO LOOK AT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO FUND THAT ON A RECURRING BASIS. RIGHT? YEAH. SO WE JUST USE THAT AS LIKE A STOPGAP FOR A STOPGAP TO KEEP THE SERVICE RUNNING. YEAH. OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION THAT I MADE? OH, I'M SORRY I HAVE A QUESTION. DOES THAT HAVE TO BE THAT DECISION NEED TO BE MADE TONIGHT. CAN WE HAVE ANOTHER BUDGET MEETING COMING UP BEFORE THE RIDERSHIP ENDS? DO WE HAVE TO MAKE WHERE THE MONEY IS? WE KNOW WE WANT TO DO IT. DO DOES THAT DECISION NEED TO BE MADE TONIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE RUSHING, MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT MOVING MONEY FROM HERE, TAKING A LOAN HERE, BORROWING FROM THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. SO LET ME OR. WELL, I MEAN WHAT'S WHAT'S WHAT'S DIFFICULT IS HAVING THESE IDEAS COME UP AT THE LAST MINUTE AND NOT HAVING TIME TO FULLY RESEARCH THIS. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF CONTRACT WE HAVE. IF WE HAVE A CONTRACT SIGNED WITH THE OR IF WE WE TERMINATED THE CONTRACT. SO WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND YEAH, I MEAN THAT CAN BE IT CAN BE PUT BACK TOGETHER. LET ME LET ME OFFER THIS THOUGHT. ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, YOU DO HAVE TWO BUDGET HEARINGS. YOU HAVE THIS ONE AND THEN YOU HAVE THE 1 IN 2 WEEKS. THE ANSWER IS YES. YOU HAVE TO ADOPT A TENTATIVE BUDGET TONIGHT AND HEAR ME OUT. IT HAS TO HAVE ALL THE FULL SPECIFICITY IN THE BUDGET. YOU HAVE THAT WITH ALL THIS, WE'RE MAKING A CHANGE TO IT. WHEN YOU MAKE A CHANGE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND SOME MORE MONEY OVER HERE, YOU GOT TO SAY WHERE IT'S GOING TO COME FROM AS WELL.

NOW, WHAT YOU ADOPT TONIGHT CAN CHANGE IN TWO WEEKS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, TONIGHT YOU SAY, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO FUND THIS $64,000 TO FUND THIS $64,000. AND AS OF RIGHT NOW AS WE ADOPT THE TENTATIVE BUDGET, IT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF PARDON ME IF I USE THE WRONG TERM, IT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF FUND BALANCE. IT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF RESERVE. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF FUND BALANCE. ALL RIGHT. TWO WEEKS HENCE IF AND PREFERABLY SO STAFF CAN HAVE IT ALL TEED UP WELL BEFORE THAT IF THERE ARE ANY, YOU KNOW, MORE NUANCED OR

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ALL RIGHT. I'VE SEEN I'VE SEEN THAT IMPLEMENTED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS. IN SOME INSTANCES, IT IS A CONTEMPLATION THAT THEY ARE A POTENTIAL SUCCESSOR. IN OTHER INSTANCES, IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A SUCCESSOR, BUT A LEVEL OF CONTINUITY, AS KAREN MENTIONED, WHERE YOU HAVE A HIGH LEVEL PERSON WHO WOULD HAVE BACKGROUND ON EVERYTHING, EVEN IF OTHER THINGS CHANGE OUT. AND SO TWO DIFFERENT THINGS WE WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND. ONE, THERE ARE TWO JOBS. THERE ARE TWO POSITIONS YOU ALL HIRE AND FIRE ON TWO OF US. ALL RIGHT.

EVERYTHING ELSE UNDER THE CHARTER IS WITH THE VILLAGE MANAGER. OKAY. WHEN YOU GET INTO THE THOUGHT, IF THERE BECOMES A THOUGHT THAT THE CONTEMPLATED DEPUTY VILLAGE MANAGER MAY ALSO BE KIND OF A VIABLE POTENTIAL SUCCESSOR, THEN THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE, EVEN THOUGH THAT HIRING WILL HAVE WILL BE BY THE MANAGER, THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME INTERACTION TO UNDERSTAND AT BARE MINIMUM THAT THERE'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, BE GOOD FEELINGS AND ACCEPTANCE ON THAT. AND THEN EVEN THEN, AS, AS KAREN MENTIONED, EVEN THEN, IT WILL COME AT THAT POINT, IT WILL BE THE DECISION OF THE COUNCIL TO SAY, YEP, THEY'RE GREAT. NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE VILLAGE MANAGER OR THEY'RE REALLY GREAT, BUT WE OUGHT TO SEE WHAT THE FIELD LOOKS LIKE. THAT WILL BE THE AT ALL TIMES WILL BE THE VILLAGE COUNCIL'S PURVIEW ON THAT. SO JUST KEEP ALL THOSE THINGS IN MIND. IT'S WORTH MORE CONVERSATION. BUT I THINK POTENTIALLY AT A DIFFERENT TIME. OKAY. GETTING BACK TO THE BUDGET, DO WE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I DID I HAD MADE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE BUDGET WITH THE CHANGE TO INCLUDE THE RIDERSHIP UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHERE THE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM IN TWO WEEKS. WE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WE JUST STATED WE HAVE $7 MILLION IN OUR RESERVE FUND.

THIS WILL BE PAID FOR BY INTEREST FROM THAT RESERVE FUND PRETTY READILY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT PAID FOR UNTIL WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS ON THE PLATE. BUT THE RIDERSHIP, I THINK, IS ONE OF THE MOST VITAL SERVICES THAT WE OFFER TO OUR CITIZENS. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE CUT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION THAT THAT BE DONE. OKAY. DID YOU GET THAT WHOLE MOTION? YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN ONSLOW SECOND. SECOND BY VICE MAYOR PEREZ. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. PASS. UNANIMOUS. OKAY. ALRIGHT.

I'M SORRY. ANY OPPOSED? I'M SORRY. ARE THERE ANY THAT OPPOSE? NO I DO, YOU'RE OPPOSED I DO. OKAY. YEAH. MAYOR VERY BRIEFLY I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ANNOUNCE THAT THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FINAL MILLAGE AND THE FINAL BUDGET WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2025 AT 6 P.M. VILLAGE HALL CHAMBERS, 15516 SOUTHWEST WEST OSCEOLA STREET, SUITE C, INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS. FIVE MINUTE RECESS. IT IS NOW 649

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