QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER, PLEASE. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY 
          [DOT Presentation- SR710 Widening Project Update]
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QUESTIONS? NO. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. MAYOR, IF I MAY, YOU WE HAVE THE FOLKS HERE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION THAT I WOULD OFFER THAT I COULD DO MY PRESENTATION PRIOR TO THE ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR THE RESOLUTION, AND SAVE SOME TIME AND LET THEM GO AHEAD AND GET GET GOING. ABSOLUTELY. YOU GOT THE PRESENTATION YOU GUYS WANT TO COME AND INTRODUCE YOURSELVES? SINCE I DON'T REMEMBER YOUR NAME, I'M SO BAD. I GOT THE MAYOR HAD ASKED THEM TO PLEASE COME AND DO A PRESENTATION THAT HE HAD SEEN AT THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION MEETING ABOUT THE WIDENING OF STATE ROAD 710. YEAH, OKAY. THANK YOU. HELLO, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ROBERT LOPEZ. I'M WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. WE WERE ASKED TO COME TALK TO YOU ALL AND TELL YOU A LITTLE, SHARE A LITTLE BIT WITH YOU AND GET SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT SOME OF THE INITIATIVES THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE ON STATE ROAD 710 FROM INDIANTOWN, ALL THE WAY UP TO THE OKEECHOBEE COUNTY LINE, THE PART WE'RE GOING TO MOSTLY FOCUS ON, THOUGH TODAY, IS THE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN INDIAN TOWN UP TO THE FPL POWER PLANT. I'LL START OUT WITH JUST INTRODUCING EVERYONE I BROUGHT WITH ME HERE. MY NAME IS ROB LOPEZ AGAIN. I WORK IN THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, THE DESIGN OFFICE. I'M A PROJECT MANAGER FOR THREE OF THE FOUR SEGMENTS WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING TO YOU ABOUT TODAY. AND I'VE ALSO BROUGHT WITH ME GOD. GODFREY, WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL YOUR ROLE. GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          GOOD EVENING. I, GODFREY EAGLE ASSOCIATES. I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER. CONSULTANT PROJECT MANAGER FOR ONE OF THE SEGMENTS THAT IS THE SEGMENT FROM FPL ALL THE WAY TO ALLAPATTAH. OKAY. 
          GOOD EVENING, BRAD SALISBURY, FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION DESIGN PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE SEGMENT FROM ALLAPATTAH TO VAN BUREN AVENUE. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO AGAIN, AND WE'LL JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. GIVE YOU ALL A LITTLE BIT OVERVIEW OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT TAKES TO GET A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS IN PLACE. 
          WE'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT OVERVIEW OF THE CORRIDOR AND THE PROJECTS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE THERE. AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT THOSE TWO SEGMENTS, WHICH ARE ACTUALLY WITHIN THE LIMITS OF INDIAN TOWN. SO FOR, FOR ANY, ANY ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT THAT IS CONSIDERED A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE BOARD. THERE WE GO THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS, WHICH IS MOSTLY TO IDENTIFY THE NEED, IDENTIFY THE EXISTING FUNDING AND OVERALL SUPPORT FOR OUR PROJECT. WE GO THROUGH WHAT'S CALLED A PDA PROCESS AGAIN, TO MORE REFINE THE PURPOSE AND NEED TO TRY TO IDENTIFY WHAT ALTERNATIVES OR SOLUTIONS WILL BEST MEET THOSE NEEDS. AND MOST OF ALL, TO PERFORM AN ENVIRONMENTAL EVALUATION TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NEPA COMPLIANT. AND THAT TAKES US TO THE DESIGN STAGE, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE FOR ALL FOUR SEGMENTS AT THIS TIME. AND DURING THIS STAGE, WE BASICALLY DEVELOP THE FINAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS. WE FINE TUNE OUR EXACT COST ESTIMATE TO ENSURE THAT THE PROJECT IS STILL COST FEASIBLE. WE SECURE ALL NECESSARY PERMITS TO CONSTRUCT THE PROJE THAT TAKES US THEN WHICH WILL BE HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE, WILL THEN ALSO BE THE RIGHT OF WAY PROCESS WHICH STARTS WITH APPRAISALS, NEGOTIATIONS AND ACQUISITIONS, OR TEMPORARY EASEMENTS OR PERMANENT EASEMENTS. AND ONCE THAT IS COMPLETE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO GO INTO CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS THE PART EVERYONE WILL NOTICE WHEN IT TAKES PLACE. BUT. WHAT YOU SEE ON THIS SLIDE IS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE CORRIDOR. AGAIN, THE LIMITS WERE TALKING ABOUT IS FROM VAN BUREN ON THE EASTERN EDGE ALL THE WAY UP TO SOUTHEAST 126, WHICH IS ABOUT JUST ONE MILE PAST THE OKEECHOBEE COUNTY LINE, OR LESS THAN A MILE PAST 
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THE OKEECHOBEE COUNTY LINE. SO IT'S ABOUT 17.7 MILES OF A STATE ROAD. 710 THE MAIN GOAL OF THE PROJECT, OR THIS INITIATIVE, IS TO CONVERT 710 FROM A TWO LANE FACILITY TO A FOUR LANE DIVIDED FACILITY. AND THIS IS BROKEN UP INTO FOUR SEGMENTS. YOU CAN SEE SEGMENT ONE IS THE PORTION THAT FALLS WITHIN OKEECHOBEE COUNTY. SEGMENT TWO IS THE LONGEST SECTION FROM THE OKEECHOBEE COUNTY LINE TO THE FPL POWER PLANT. SEGMENT THREE FROM THE FPL PLANT TO ALLAPATTAH ROAD AND SEGMENT FOUR FROM ALLAPATTAH TO VAN BUREN. YOU CAN ALSO SEE ON THE LEGEND THERE OF THE MAP THE SEGMENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY FUNDED FOR CONSTRUCTION IS SEGMENT ONE AND SEGMENT FOUR, AND THE OTHER TWO SEGMENTS WHICH ARE NOT CURRENTLY FUNDED BUT ARE CURRENTLY PROGRAMED IS SEGMENT TWO AND SEGMENT THREE. SEGMENT TWO IS WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN A HIGH CONCENTRATION OF CRASHES, AND IT WAS CONSIDERED BY MANY A SAFETY PRIORITY. SO YOU CAN SEE SEGMENT TWO IS A LITTLE BIT PRIORITIZED ABOVE SEGMENT THREE. AND JUST KIND OF GOING OVER THE OBJECTIVES. YOU KNOW THE WHOLE PROJECT SUPPORTS THE DEPARTMENT'S GOAL OF TARGET ZERO, WHICH IS A STATEWIDE INITIATIVE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TRANSPORTATION RELATED SERIOUS INJURIES TO ENHANCE MOBILITY, MOBILITY, EMERGENCY ACCESS AND TRUCK MOVEMENT, AND TO ENHANCE THE STRATEGIC INTERMODAL SYSTEM AND TO CONNECT STATE ROAD 70 AND PORT OF PALM BEACH. THAT'S GOING THROUGH EVEN MORE FURTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE FOR MANY YEARS, ALL THE WAY TO THE PORT OF PALM BEACH. WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN THERE IS THE DOT COMPASS. THIS IS KIND OF OUR KIND OF GUIDING CREED OF HOW THE DEPARTMENT DOES BUSINESS, HOW WE APPROACH OUR PURPOSE, AND OF DELIVERING OUR SERVICES TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA. YOU CAN SEE AT THE CENTER OF THE COMPASS IS COMMUNITIES. AS WE SAID DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS, EVERYTHING STARTS WITH COMMUNITIES, IS COMMUNITIES THAT IDENTIFY THE NEED AND THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SERVE THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF A PROJECT. GOING AROUND THE COMPASS, YOU CAN SEE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, TECHNOLOGY, SUPPLY CHAIN, RESILIENCY AND SAFETY. THROUGH EVERY PROJECT, WE TRY TO IDENTIFY WHAT IS THE FOCUS OF THESE PROJECTS, THAT WE TRY TO NARROW IT DOWN TO ABOUT 2 OR 3 OF THOSE OF THOSE PRINCIPLES. IN THIS CASE, SAFETY HAS BEEN SELECTED BECAUSE STATE ROAD 710 HAS HAD A HIGH NUMBER OF CRASHES IN RECENT YEARS, WHICH IS A BIG PART OF WHAT'S TRIGGERED THIS PROJECT OR TRIGGERED THE PRIORITIZATION OF THIS INITIATIVE SUPPLY CHAIN. THIS CORRIDOR ALSO CARRIES A VERY HIGH CONCENTRATION OF TRUCK TRAFFIC. I BELIEVE 25% OF VEHICLES PASSING THROUGH ARE TRUCKS AND FREIGHT. FREIGHT FUNDING IS ONE OF THE MAIN SOURCES WE ARE LOOKING AT TO TRY TO HELP FUND A LOT OF PORTIONS OF THIS PROJECT, AND RESILIENCY. THIS IS A BIG, BIG IMPROVEMENT. 
          SO WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR A LONG TERM DESIGN DESIGN YEAR TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THE IMPROVEMENTS WE DO, EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT, ARE REALLY BEING PLANNED FOR THE FUTURE. AND AGAIN, I KIND OF WON'T GO THROUGH EVERY LINE, BUT, YOU KNOW, INCREASED CAPACITY, MULTIMODAL CONNECTIVITY, ACCOMMODATING TRUCK TRAFFIC AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. AND I'LL KIND OF NOW TURN IT OVER TO THE TWO PROJECT MANAGERS CAN TALK ABOUT THEIR SPECIFIC SEGMENTS THAT THEY'RE DESIGNING. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. ROB. SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE HERE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE IDENTIFIED ALONG THE CORRIDOR. OBVIOUSLY THE TERRA LARGO IS ONE OF THE MAIN DEVELOPMENTS THAT IS CURRENTLY ONGOING ALONG THE CORRIDOR. 
          WE'VE, YOU KNOW, TAKEN THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IMPROVEMENT NEEDS TO BE DONE ALONG THE CORRIDOR. THERE'S ALSO THE VILLAGE MARKET DELICATESSEN THAT IS ALSO LOOKING TO OPEN JUST SOUTH OF THE INDIAN, THE INDIAN WOULD DRIVE ACCESS POINTS. SO THAT'S ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. I THINK THEY ALREADY SUBMITTED SOME PERMITS TO FDOT THAT IS UNDER REVIEW AT THE MOMENT. SO AS FAR AS THE SEGMENT FROM THE FPL ACCESS ROAD ALL THE WAY TO ALLAPATTAH, YOU KNOW, IT'S APPROXIMATELY A FIVE MILE SEGMENT. YOU HAVE IT 
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CURRENTLY, IT'S A TWO LANE DIVIDED UNDIVIDED ROADWAY. IT HAS A C2 CONTEXT CLASS. AND THE CONTEXT CLASS IS REALLY HOW WE IDENTIFY WHAT KIND OF WHAT KIND OF FACILITIES OR PROPERTIES ARE ADJACENT TO THE CORRIDOR, SO THAT WE CAN BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE RIGHT LEVEL OF IMPROVEMENT. 
          THE CURRENT DESIGN SPEED GOES FROM 45MPH WITHIN AS YOU GO FROM THE, THE EAST TO, TO THE WEST. 
          AND THEN THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY VARIES FROM 69FT TO 143FT. THIS SLIDE BASICALLY SHOWS YOU THE FIRST PROPOSED TYPICAL SECTION. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE HERE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS TO PROVIDE A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROAD, TYPICAL SECTION WITH A 40 FOOT MEDIAN BASICALLY FROM THE FPL ACCESS ROAD TO FOX BROWN ROAD TO JUST EAST OF BROWN ROAD. THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT IS MAKING SURE THAT WE USE WE UTILIZE THE EXISTING PAVEMENT AS THE EASTBOUND LANES, AND THEN WE BUILD A NEW WESTBOUND WESTBOUND LANES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CORRIDOR. THE DESIGN SPEED WITHIN THIS SEGMENT IS 60MPH, AND THE POSTED SPEED IS GOING TO BE BETWEEN 50 AND 60MPH. OBVIOUSLY, THE YOU'RE GOING TO BE NEEDING ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS IMPROVEMENTS, PARTICULARLY THE WESTBOUND LANES AS WELL AS THE SHARED USE PATH. WE'RE PROVIDING A SHARED USE PATH ON THE NORTH SIDE TO FACILITATE THE MULTIMODAL ACCOMMODATION THAT ROB JUST TALKED ABOUT. THIS PROJECT WILL ALSO RESULT IN ABOUT ONE BUSINESS RELOCATION WITHIN THAT SEGMENT. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SCREEN HERE, I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE COLOR. SO JUST GOING FROM THE LEFT TO THE RIGHT WE HAVE THERE'S AN INTERCEPTOR DITCH THAT IS ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ACQUIRE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT THAT WITHIN THE CORRIDOR. THEN YOU HAVE THE GREEN AREA IS THE AREA THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED RIGHT AWAY TO ACQUIRE RIGHT OF WAY TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE WESTBOUND LANES AND THE SHARED USE PATH. AND THEN ON THE FAR RIGHT WHERE YOU HAVE THE PURPLE, THAT IS AN AREA WITHIN THE CSX RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ALSO HAVE A TEMPORARY EASEMENT AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN BE ABLE TO RESHAPE OR REGRADE THIS WELL IN THAT AREA AS WELL. THE SECOND TYPICAL SECTION IS JUST FROM EAST OF BROWN ROAD ALL THE WAY TO ALLAPATTAH. WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THIS SECTION IS TO PROVIDE A SUBURBAN TYPICAL SECTION. NOW, THE REASON WHY WE'RE PROVIDING THAT SUBURBAN WITHIN THAT AREA IS, AS YOU GET FROM THE WEST, TOWARDS THE EAST, YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY GETTING CLOSER TOWARDS TOWARDS YOU'RE GETTING INTO INDIAN TOWN, THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VEHICLES ARE SLOWING DOWN SO THAT THEY CAN BE ABLE TO AS THEY GET TO THE CENTER OF THE TOWN, THEY WILL BE AT SPEEDS WILL BE REDUCED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF WHY WE'RE CHANGING THE TYPICAL SECTION, INTRODUCING ELEMENTS LIKE A CURB AND GUTTER SO THAT THAT WOULD MAKE THE VEHICLE SLOW DOWN. THE DESIGN SPEED IS 50MPH, BUT THE POSTED SPEED IS GOING TO BE 45MPH. IN THIS AREA WE'RE DOING VERY SIMILAR THINGS, MAINTAINING THE EXISTING AS THE EASTBOUND LANES AND THEN ALSO THE WESTBOUND LANES. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED RIGHT OF WAY TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AS WELL. THE SHARED USE PATH IS ALSO INCLUDED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS CORRIDOR AS WELL. SO THIS SLIDE HERE BASICALLY JUST SHOWS YOU HOW THE ROADWAY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE FROM A PLAN VIEW. AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS A FOX BROWN. THE REALIGNED FOX BROWN ROAD. 
          THE OLD FOX BROWN ROAD IS GOING TO BE DISCONNECTED FROM A 710. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ALSO BE DOING A LOT OF ACCESS MANAGEMENT IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE MEDIAN ALONG THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR. WE'RE GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE ACCESS MANAGEMENT CHANGES IN THE SENSE THAT THEY ADD SOME MEDIANS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE CLOSED, THAT SOME THAT WILL HAVE TO BE RELOCATED IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS ALONG THE ROAD. 
          THIS SLIDE ALSO SHOWS I KNOW THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD WAS MENTIONED TO US WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING WITH THE MARTIN COUNTY ABOUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO REALIGN, YOU KNOW, ALLAPATTAH ROAD TO ALIGN WITH A MARTIN LUTHER KING. SO WE TOOK A LOOK AT THAT. THIS IS JUST A PRELIMINARY EVALUATION OF THAT. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO AS ALLAPATTAH ROAD GOES SOUTH, YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE ALIGNMENT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ALIGN THAT THE BENEFITS THAT OF HAVING THIS REALIGNMENT IS THE 
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FACT THAT YOU ACTUALLY WOULD MEET THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS. RIGHT NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT ALLAPATTAH, IT'S JUST ABOUT HALF A MILE FROM MARTIN LUTHER KING. SO IF YOU PUT A RAISED MEDIAN IN THAT AREA, IT DOESN'T MEET THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENT. SO REALIGNING THAT WOULD ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, ENABLE THE CORRIDOR TO MEET THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF THE SIGNAL SPACINGS ALONG THE CORRIDOR, THE PRELIMINARY COST ESTIMATES WE HAVE FOR THIS, ABOUT $4.5 MILLION. SO THIS SHOWS THE SCHEDULE FOR THE SEGMENT THAT GOES FROM THE FPL ACCESS ROAD ALL THE WAY TO ALLAPATTAH. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE STARTED THIS PROJECT ABOUT A YEAR AGO. WITHIN BY FALL OF THIS YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO BE PRODUCING THE INITIAL PLANS. THAT IS THE ALIGNMENTS, MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED THINGS LIKE THE, THE HORIZONTAL, THE VERTICAL ALIGNMENTS, PRELIMINARY DRAINAGE, SO THAT WE CAN KNOW HOW MUCH YOU KNOW, RIGHT OF WAY IS NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THIS ROADWAY. IN THE FALL OF 2026, WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING. FOLLOWING THAT. THE RIGHT OF WAY WOULD ALSO START ABOUT 2027. AND THEN THE FINAL PLANS. WE ANTICIPATE THAT IN THE SUMMER OF 2030, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION IS ANTICIPATED FOR 2031, SPRING OF 2031. AS ROB MENTIONED, THIS SEGMENT IS NOT CURRENTLY FUNDED FOR CONSTRUCTION. AND WITH THAT RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU GODFREY. 
          SO THIS IS ON THE SOUTH END OF THE SEGMENT GODFREY PREVIOUSLY SPOKE OF FROM ALLAPATTAH HEADING INTO VAN BUREN, INTO THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. IT'S ABOUT JUST UNDER A MILE LONG. THE CURRENT ROADWAY IS A THREE LANE UNDIVIDED IN THIS SECTION. GODFREY HAD TOUCHED ON THE CONTEXT CLASSIFICATION. THIS IS WHAT WOULD BE CALLED A SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL CONTEXT CLASSIFICATION 35 TO 40 MILE PER HOUR POSTED SPEED, AS WELL AS THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY FROM 130 TO 176FT. THE PROPOSED TYPICAL SECTION FOR THIS PROJECT INCLUDES A FOUR LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY, A SMALLER MEDIAN THAN IN THE NORTHERN SECTION, ONLY A 22 FOOT MEDIAN HERE 45 MILE PER HOUR DESIGN SPEED, WITH LOWER POSTED SPEEDS OF 35 TO 40. WE WILL HAVE A SHARED USE PATH TEN FOOT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROADWAY, WITH DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS BEHIND THAT ON EITHER END, AND WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANY RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION NEEDED FOR THIS SEGMENT. GODFREY MENTIONED SOME ACCESS MANAGEMENT IMPROVEMENTS IN THE NORTHERN SEGMENT. THAT WOULD BE THE SAME CASE FOR THIS. WHEN WE ADD THE DIVIDED MEDIAN, THERE WOULD BE ACCESS CHANGES TO SOME OF THE PROPERTIES. WE ARE STILL EVALUATING THAT KIND OF PRELIMINARY DESIGN PHASE RIGHT NOW. WE ARE LOOKING INTO THE SIGNALIZATION AT ALLAPATTAH. WE'RE DOING WHAT'S CALLED A SIGNAL WARN ANALYSIS CURRENTLY, AND WE'RE ANALYZING THAT INTERSECTION BASED ON THE CURRENT CONDITION WHERE TWO LANE WARFIELD WITH ALLAPATTAH AND ALSO IN THE FUTURE CONDITION WITH WITH A FOUR LANE STAGGERED 710 WITH ALLAPATTAH. WE HOPE TO HAVE THOSE RESULTS OR EXPECT TO HAVE THOSE RESULTS NEXT MONTH. WE'VE ALSO BEEN COORDINATING WITH THE GARCIA DRIVE IMPROVEMENTS AS PART OF TERRA LARGO. THEY HAVE A PROPOSED NEW SIGNAL AT THAT INTERSECTION THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THROUGH PERMITTING AND THEIR DESIGN TEAM. SO WE'RE INCORPORATING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS INTO OUR PROJECT DESIGN AS WELL. AND THE PROJECT SCHEDULE FOR THIS, WE HAVE SAME START AND INITIAL PLANS AND PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING FROM THE SEGMENT TO THE NORTH. WE DO HAVE A EARLIER FINAL PLANS DATE OF SUMMER 2027. AND WITH WITHOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, WE HAVE A CONDENSED DESIGN SCHEDULE COMPARED TO THAT SEGMENT, AS WELL AS A CONSTRUCTION LETTING THAT IS FUNDED FOR THE SUMMER OF 2029. CONTACT INFORMATION ON THE SLIDES FOR ROBERT AND I, AS WELL AS A QR CODE FOR OUR PROJECT WEBSITE, LIST ALL THE CORRIDOR SEGMENTS THROUGHOUT THAT WHOLE 17.7 MILES. SAFETY MESSAGE FOR DISTRACTED DRIVING. MAKE SURE TO STAY FOCUSED ON THE ROAD. AND WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE A GREEN MEDIUM ALL THE WAY THROUGH OR NO GREEN MEDIUM? IS THERE A MEDIUM? 
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OR DIVIDER. SO YEAH, THERE'S GOING TO BE SO WITHIN THE MEDIAN IN THE URBAN SECTION THAT IS THE SEGMENT FROM ALLAPATTAH TO VAN BUREN. THAT'S THE URBAN SECTION. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A RAISED MEDIAN IN THE SEGMENTS ON THE WEST FROM WEST OF FPL TO ALLAPATTAH. IT'S GOING TO BE ALSO A YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A GRASS IN THE IN THE MEDIAN AS WELL. BUT IT'S NOT A RAISED MEDIAN. IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, A FLASH MEDIUM. YEAH. SO BUT IT'S ALL GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, GRASPED IN THAT AREA. YES. ANY TREES. WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED ANY TREES IN THE MEDIAN AT THE MOMENT. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT AFTER THE PROJECTS ARE DONE, TYPICALLY THEY WILL LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT NECESSARY LANDSCAPE IS NEEDED TO GO WITH THE PROJECT, BUT THAT IS USUALLY AFTER THE. SO THERE'S A MEDIUM FROM VAN BUREN ALL THE WAY TO. FLORIDA POWER. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEDIAN ALL THE WAY THROUGH A MEDIUM GREEN. YEAH. SO IT'S GOING TO BE TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION WITH MEDIAN SIMILAR TO AS YOU COMING FROM THE EAST, VERY SIMILAR TO HOW IT IS. I JUST WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO STOP SUICIDE LANE, WHICH IS WHERE THE TRACTOR TRAILERS PARK IN THE CENTER TO GO OVER AND GET FOOD OR GO OVER AND USE WHATEVER THEY DO. I JUST WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT IF THIS IF THIS IS A WAY TO STOP THAT. WELL, YES, THIS IS A RAISED MEDIAN. SO THEY CAN DO THAT. OKAY. THEY CAN DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE TURN LINE. RIGHT. YEAH. YES. THERE'S GOING TO BE TEN LANES BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE A FIVE LANE SECTION. IT'S NOT FLAT. IT'S SO IT'S NOT RAISED. IT WON'T THEY WON'T BE THE URBAN SECTION. IT'S GOING TO BE. YES. IT'S GOING TO BE ALL RAISED OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. YES. MA'AM. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY. AND I'LL JUST KIND OF BRING YOUR ATTENTION, YOU KNOW ON THE LAST ON THE LAST SLIDE WAS OUR PROJECT WEBSITE. AND IF YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S EVEN A COMMENT SECTION WHERE YOU KNOW WHERE YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR ANY FUTURE UPDATES ABOUT THE PROJECT. PROJECT UPDATES. SO WE KIND OF ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO KIND OF LOOK THROUGH THE WEBSITE AND, YOU KNOW, LET LET US KNOW IF YOU DON'T HAVE A QUESTION TODAY, YOU CAN ALWAYS CONTACT US THROUGH THIS SITE AT A LATER DATE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE, ROBERT. IS THAT WHERE THE QR CODE TAKES YOU? THE QR CODE, THAT'S WHERE THE LINK THAT WAS ON THERE. OKAY, PREVIOUS THERE WAS A LINK ON THE PREVIOUS. YEAH, BUT THERE WAS ALSO THAT QR CODE AND I, I'M NOT SURE THE QR CODE, QR CODE WEBSITE OKAY. SHOULD. YEAH. PERFECT. IT'S ON THE PAMPHLET. OKAY. WELL NOT EVERYBODY HAD GOT A HANDOUT. SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW HOW THEY COULD GET THEIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY ANY PUBLIC COMMENT QUESTIONS. YES. DID YOU DID YOU GO TO THE PODIUM? DID YOU GIVE THEM A PAPER? YEAH. YEAH. YOU CAN ASK THEM. GO AHEAD. THAT'S ALL RIGHT I ASK YOU A QUESTION. SO ON PAGE TEN ON THE RECORD, THE MIC PLEASE. YEAH. YOU NEED TO GO TO THE MIC. 
          IDENTIFY YOURSELF. VIDAL HERNANDEZ. MY QUESTION IS ON SLIDE TEN, THE PROPOSED REALIGNMENT FROM SOUTHWEST ALLAPATTAH ROAD. IT SAYS A SHARED USE PATH. WHAT IS THAT DEFINED? IS THAT LIKE A ANOTHER ROAD OR IS THAT ANOTHER SIDEWALK? IT'S MORE LIKE A BIGGER SIDEWALK THAT YOU CAN BUY. YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, WALK, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S MORE RECREATIONAL. SO YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO DIFFERENT THINGS ON IT. YES. IT'S LET'S PUT IT, IT'S LIKE A BIGGER SIDEWALK. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A 12 FOOT SIDEWALK TYPICALLY ARE ABOUT SIX FEET. THIS IS A 12 FOOT SHARED USE PATH. SO YOU CAN BIKE ON IT. YOU CAN WALK ON IT. 
          YOU CAN RUN ON IT. YOU KNOW, IT JUST GOES ALONG THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR FROM VAN BUREN ALL THE WAY TO, I BELIEVE, THE FPL, AT LEAST WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THIS PROJECT. SO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT IT IS FOR. THANKS. THANKS. MY NEXT QUESTION IS THE SAME ON THAT SAME SLIDE IS THE PROPOSED STOPLIGHTS. HOW IS THAT GOING TO FUNCTION OR IS THAT COME LATER ON TOWARDS THE DESIGN PROCESS. 
          SO AS FAR AS THE SIGNALS ARE CONCERNED, I THINK BRAD DID MENTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SIGNAL WARRANTS. WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING A SIGNAL SIGNAL WARRANT ANALYSIS AT THE ALLAPATTAH ROAD INTERSECTION. BEFORE YOU PUT A SIGNAL ON ON ANY FDOT ROADWAY, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY THAT. AND WITH THAT, YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT YOU'RE MEETING THE SIGNAL WARRANT REQUIREMENTS. ONCE THAT IS, ALL THE SIGNAL WARRANTS REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET, THEN WE WILL IT WOULD BE APPROVED AND THEN THE SIGNAL CAN GO INTO PLACE. SO IF THE IF THE SIGNAL IS WARRANTED THEN A SIGNAL WILL BE PUT IN PLACE. IF A SIGNAL IS NOT 
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WARRANTED. OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU COULD DO IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE A SAFE OPERATION AT THE INTERSECTION. SO YES, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE DIFFERENT OUTCOMES DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME. WE'RE GOING TO BE DESIGNING THESE INTERSECTIONS TO ENSURE THAT WE PROVIDE THE UTMOST SAFETY FOR THE CORRIDOR. THIS IS ONE OF THE KEY THINGS OF THIS PROJECT TO ENHANCE SAFETY. AWESOME OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. SO THIS IS CURRENTLY NUMBER ONE ON YOUR LIST. AND IT'S REMAINING THERE. 
          I'VE SAID IT A HUNDRED TIMES THAT EVERY ONE OF OUR MEETINGS GOT TO MOVE IT UP. GOT TO MOVE IT UP. IT'S TOO FAR AWAY ACTUALLY IT'S FURTHER ALONG THAN INITIALLY BECAUSE YOU HAD SOME OF THE DESIGN ALREADY DONE PREVIOUSLY. CORRECT. WE HAVE PRELIMINARY SKETCHES. WE REALLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS YET. IN REGARDS TO THE REALIGNMENT. I MEAN, WE HAVE WE DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE COUNTY. AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THEY A LOT OF PEOPLE SAW MERIT IN, IN THE IDEA AND THEY KIND OF WANT THEY WANTED TO SEE IT SEEMED TO HAVE SUPPORT FROM MOST PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY. I THINK THE BIG FEAR IS ADDING THINGS TO THE PROJECT THAT WOULD HURT THE COST. FEASIBILITY OF THE PROJECT IS SEEM TO BE WHAT MOST CONCERNS WERE AT THE MOMENT. SO THE I MEAN, THE 4.5 MILLION DOES NOT INCLUDE THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION OR THE DESIGN FEE OR SOME OF THE UTILITY ACCOMMODATION THAT THAT GOES. SO THE TOTAL COST WOULD BE IS STILL UNKNOWN, YOU MIGHT SAY. BUT IT'S THERE IS STILL TIME TO TRY TO DO IT. IT'S SOMETHING WE ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL TO TALK TO MARTIN COUNTY ABOUT AS WELL. AND THERE'S STILL THERE'S STILL TIME TO TRY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION TO GO IN. I THINK WE ALL APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY, I'LL MOVE 
          [PUBLIC COMMENT (3 MINUTES EACH)]
ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. DO WE HAVE ANY ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES. LINDA NICCUM. OH, GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, LINDA NICCUM. THREE THINGS ON MY LIST. NUMBER ONE, NEXT TUESDAY, THE 29TH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A PROPERTY TAX 101 CLASS COURSE PROGRAM AT THE CIVIC CENTER. 
          THERE WILL BE TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE TO HELP DESCRIBE HOW THE PROPERTY TAX PROGRAM WORKS FROM THE BEGINNING, THROUGH US GETTING A TAX BILL, SUSAN GIBBS THOMAS WILL BE OUR MODERATOR. TARYN IS GOING TO ALSO BE THERE TO SPEAK. 
          THERE WILL BE QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE. WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE EDUCATED BEFORE THEY THEY DO ANYTHING ELSE. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ASSUME THAT IF THERE ARE RENTERS, THEY'RE NOT PAYING PROPERTY TAXES. BUT IN FACT, THOSE TAX HIGHER TAXES ARE GOING TO BE FLOWED THROUGH TO THEIR HIGHER RENTS. SO THEY NEED TO KNOW. AND IF THEY'RE GOING TO BECOME POTENTIAL LAND HOMEOWNERS OVER AT TERRA LAGO, THEY ALSO NEED TO KNOW WHAT THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS. WHAT TIME IS THAT? 6:00 AT THE CIVIC CENTER. TUESDAY, THE 29TH. SECOND. AND I'M RUNNING SHORT. I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THAT THE PUBLIC BE AFFORDED A MONTHLY FINANCIAL STATEMENT TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT, BUDGET VERSUS ACTUAL, SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH OUR VILLAGE FINANCES. AND MY LAST ONE, I'M ASKING AGAIN, AND I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE THAT EACH OF YOU PROVIDE US AN YOUR EMPLOYEE OR YOUR EMPLOYER'S A REPORT OF WHAT VILLAGE ISSUES YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE THE LAST MEETING, WHAT COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS HAVE BEEN ATTENDED, WHAT RESIDENT ISSUES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION, WHAT THE INTERACTION IS THAT YOU'VE HAD WITH YOUR INDIAN TOWN RESIDENTS? YOU'VE BEEN ELECTED TO REPRESENT US. AND I, FOR ONE, DON'T HAVE ANY IDEAS AS TO WHAT 
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YOU'RE DOING. ARE YOU WORKING ON OR WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE? I KNOW THAT YOUR JOB IS A NOT AN EASY ONE, BUT THIS IS WHAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR. AND AS FOR AS YOUR EMPLOYER, HOW DO I KNOW WHAT KIND OF JOB YOU'RE DOING IF YOU DON'T TELL ME WHAT YOU'RE DOING? THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? YES. MY NAME. BUT I KNEW THAT ONE BEFORE. YES. GLORIA JENNINGS. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. MY NAME IS GLORIA JENNINGS, AND I'M HERE TO WITH POSITIVE THINGS. WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP, MY MOM WOULD TELL US TO GO DOWN TO MISS BERTHA HOUSE AND GET TWO CUPS OF SUGAR. IT WAS TEN OF US IN OUR FAMILY, SO IT WAS LIKE A CLOSE COMMUNITY THEN. WELL, WHEN I THOUGHT OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, I SAID, A VILLAGE. I WONDER WHY THE NAME OF THE VILLAGE. BUT NOW I KNOW. THE LIGHTNING STRUCK MY FREEZER AND MY FREEZER WENT OUT, AND I HAD NO IDEA THAT IT WAS OUT. SO WHEN I OPENED IT, ALL MY ICE CREAM FROM PUBLIX, I HAD JUST GOT BUY ONE, GET ONE FREE WAS GONE. BUT MY TURKEY AND MY LEG OF LAMB WAS STILL FROZEN. SO I SAID, WHAT AM I GOING TO DO? SO I CALLED MISS CHARLOTTE AND SHE SAID THEY WERE AT THE PARK AND REC. SO SHE SAID, BRING THEM ON DOWN. AND I HAVE, YOU KNOW, I TOOK MY MEAT DOWN THERE AND IT WAS SAVED. NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A VILLAGE. THAT'S A VILLAGE, RIGHT? I WAS SO THANKFUL FOR THE PARK AND REC TO SAVE MY MEAT. SO WE ARE IN A VILLAGE. THIS IS A VILLAGE AND I'M A PART OF THIS VILLAGE. SO ANYTHING THAT I SEE POSITIVE, I'M GOING TO LET IT OUT. AND THAT'S A LOT OF NEGATIVE STUFF, BUT THAT WE DON'T NEED BUT THE POSITIVE I'M GOING TO LET IT OUT. SO THAT'S THAT WAS A GREAT POSITIVE. AND I HAD ALMOST FORGOT MY FREEZER CAME BACK ON. IT CAME BACK ON. BUT IT WAS A SURGE I NEEDED BECAUSE I SO I PUT MY SURGE, MY FREEZER CAME BACK ON. SO I GOT MY FREEZER, BUT I DIDN'T LOSE MY MEAT. SO I'M SO THANKFUL FOR THE PARK AND REC THAT YOU ALLOWED ME TO USE THEIR THEIR FREEZER ALL THAT TIME. AND I HAD ALMOST FORGOT MY MEAT WAS IN THERE TOO, TILL I SAW MISS PAT YESTERDAY GOING DOWN THE ROAD. SHE SAID, COME ON GIRL, AND GET THIS MEAT OUT OF THIS FREEZER. SO I HAVE MY MEAT BACK IN MY FREEZER NOW. SO THAT'S, THAT'S VERY POSITIVE. 
          AND AS MAYA ANGELOU SAY, STICK WITH THE POSITIVE AND LET THE NEGATIVE MOVE OUT. THAT'S MY REQUEST FOR THE DAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? NO. MAYOR. NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY COMMITTEE 
          [COMMENTS BY VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS]
REPORTS? ANY COMMENTS BY COUNCIL? I HAVE VICE MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. I JUST WANT TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. THE PAST TWO WEEKS, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WE HAD NOT HAD AN ESTABLISHED PTA OR PTSA HERE IN ANY OF THE INDIAN TOWN SCHOOLS, SO WE MADE IT A MISSION WITH THE THANKFUL TO THE MARTIN COUNTY COUNCIL, PTA, AND PTSA, WE WERE ABLE TO ESTABLISH AT EACH ELEMENT OR AT ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, AND HIGH SCHOOL. SO VERY HAPPY THAT WE DID IT. NOW WE JUST GOT TO WORK TOGETHER AND MAKE GREAT THINGS HAPPEN FOR OUR KIDS AND OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF. GOOD JOB. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? NO. YESTERDAY I ATTENDED MY BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD MEETING AND IT WAS VERY INTERESTING. GEORGE STOKES, THE. THE COUNTY ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR, PUT ON A PRESENTATION FOR THEIR TOOLBOX FOR BUSINESS. AND I GAVE I GAVE THE PAMPHLET TO. MRS. KRISDA AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THAT PRINTED, MAYBE POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE. BUT HE TALKED ABOUT WHAT ALL OF OUR CITIZENS ARE GOING TO BE VOTING ON, AND 
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THAT'S THAT TAX DEFERMENT. AND THERE WAS A LOT SAID. I REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO GET EDUCATED ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOOL IN THAT TOOLBOX. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'RE GIVEN THE COUNCIL THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND A CARROT TO A POTENTIAL BUSINESS THAT'S COMING TO TOWN. 
          AND THAT MAY BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GETTING THAT BUSINESS AND LOSING THAT BUSINESS. AND WE'RE NOT TALKING JUST ANY BUSINESS, AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ANY PIECE OF LAND. WE CAN DESIGN THIS AS WE LIKE. WE CAN SET LIMITS, MINIMUMS, PERFORMANCE FOR THE COMPANY. HE'S GOT TO PERFORM TO A CERTAIN LEVEL. SO YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 150 OR 200 EMPLOYEES. YOU GOT TO REACH THAT. AND WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE GOT PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR MANY YEARS THAT HAVE INVESTED FOR YEARS. WE CAN DESIGN A PROGRAM TO SAY, OKAY, THIS IS GOING TO APPLY TO EXISTING PROPERTY WITHIN THE VILLAGE BOUNDARIES. 
          IT WAS VERY, VERY, VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION. AND. I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH FPNL, WE HAVE LOST MONEY BECAUSE OF THEIR TANGIBLE PROPERTY BEING MOVED, NEEDING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND WE'RE IN A HURRICANE SEASON AND HOPE TO GOD THAT WE DON'T GET HIT. OR A COUNTY WITHIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA DOES NOT GET HIT, BECAUSE IF THEY GET TO PULL MORE STUFF OUT OF HERE AND WE LOSE ANOTHER ROUND OF TAX DOLLARS, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE. WE'RE GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY OUR BILLS. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD OUR WAY OUT OF THIS BUY HOUSES. 
          TAXES ON A HOUSE, ON A $300,000 HOUSE WE GOT TO BUILD. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD 30,000 HOMES WHERE THE TAX DOLLARS ARE. THE BIG MONEY IS IN INDUSTRIAL. THAT'S WHERE IT'S AT. AND I WANT TO SEE THAT INDUSTRIAL BUILT. AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY TO OUR PARTNERS THAT ARE TRYING TO BRING PEOPLE TO THIS VILLAGE, THAT HERE YOU HAVE ANOTHER TOOL TO BE ABLE TO ENTICE SOMEBODY. 
          IT MAY BE THE FACTOR, IT MAY BE THE FACTOR OF, YOU KNOW, ONCE THAT PROPERTY GOES, GOES INDUSTRIAL WANTS TO BUILDINGS ON IT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO REALIZE THOSE TAX DOLLARS, WE'RE GOING TO SEE REAL TAX DOLLARS. WE'RE GOING TO SEE A REAL DIFFERENCE, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU GET A COMPANY THAT'S GOT, YOU KNOW, 50 MILLION OR $100 MILLION IN EQUIPMENT COMING THEN AND THEY'RE PRODUCING A PRODUCT, THEN YOU GET SALES TAXES ON TOP OF THAT, TOO. I MEAN, EVENTUALLY, RIGHT. SO. I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE VOTING FOR. THEY'RE NOT VOTING FOR US TO GIVE AWAY YOUR MONEY, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY. AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE ALL THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ON OUR MAP TO BE OCCUPIED BY SOMEBODY. AND IF AND IF GIVING THE COUNCIL THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY TO SOMEBODY, YES, WE HAVE THIS PROGRAM AND YOU QUALIFY FOR IT, THEN THAT'S GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY ELSE'S JOB EASIER AND IT'S GOING TO BRING MONEY TO THE VILLAGE, WHICH IS WHAT WE DESPERATELY NEED, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO FIX THE ROADS AND BE ABLE TO PUT NEW PIPES ON THE GROUND AND TO BE ABLE TO DO THE THINGS THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE DONE. AND TO OUR BUILDERS THAT ARE BUILDING THESE HOUSES, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED JOBS. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO COME LIVE IN INDIANTOWN AND DRIVE TO WEST PALM BEACH TO GO TO WORK OR DRIVE TO STUART TO TAKE THEIR KIDS TO PLAY BASEBALL OR FOOTBALL. WE NEED TO HAVE A VILLAGE. SO THAT TAKES MONEY. SO 
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HAVING VACANT PROPERTY IS NOT, I THINK, IN THE BEST INTEREST. SO WE NEED WE NEED TO ENTICE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO COME. AND IF SOMEBODY'S COMING AND BUILDING A FACTORY WITH, YOU KNOW, $100 MILLION WORTH OF EQUIPMENT IN IT, AND THAT DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T TAKE LONG TO FILL A FACTORY WITH $100 MILLION WORTH OF EQUIPMENT. AND WHEN YOU TELL THEM, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, AN INCREMENTS OF 20% FIRST YEAR, YOU'RE GOING TO GET 100%, NEXT YEAR YOU'RE GOING TO GET 80%. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO END UP PAYING THE TAXES OVER THE COURSE OF 10 OR 8 YEARS, WHATEVER, WHATEVER WE WANT IT TO BE, WHATEVER YOU WANT IT TO BE. THEN I THINK THAT THAT IT WOULD MAKE EVERYBODY EVERYBODY'S JOB FOR MR. FURIO TO. MR. KRISDA, TO THE POWERS WHO ARE HAVE REAL ESTATE AGENCY, AND THEY'RE COURTING A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE TO COME HERE AND TO BE ABLE TO GIVE SOMEBODY A BREAK TO SAY, WELL, I'M GOING TO SAVE ON MY TAXES. THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE OF WHETHER I COME HERE OR WHETHER I GO TO PORT SAINT LUCIE, YOU KNOW? AND I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO BRING PEOPLE. I'VE ALWAYS SAID SINCE DAY ONE, I'VE SAID THIS EVEN BEFORE I EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT RUNNING FOR OFFICE. I SAID, INDIANTOWN SHOULD BE THE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COME TO AND LEAVE THEIR MONEY HERE, NOT THE PEOPLE FROM INDIANTOWN. GO SOMEPLACE ELSE AND SPEND THEIR MONEY. WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING OUT OF THAT, YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S PERSONALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO CREATE. I'M TRYING TO CREATE A PLACE, AND I'M LOOKING AT BUSINESSES TO COME THAT ARE GOING TO ENHANCE US, THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE US BETTER, BRING PEOPLE IN. I MEAN, IF YOU WENT TO THE 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION, THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE FROM THAT WERE NOT FROM INDIANTOWN. THAT'S A GREAT THING. THEY'RE COMING TO INDIANTOWN. SO I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I WANT PEOPLE, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTION, THEY HAVE ANY QUESTION. IF YOU'RE OUT THERE LISTENING OR SITTING HERE OR YOU'RE WATCHING YOUR TV MONITOR AND YOU HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE DON'T HESITATE. CALL ONE OF US, CALL MYSELF, CALL OUR VILLAGE MANAGER. SHE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON. SHE'S GOING TO GIVE YOU THE TRUE STORY. AND IF NOTHING ELSE, CALL THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD WILLIAMS A WORLD OF INFORMATION, AND HE'LL ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS. AND HE'S WILLING TO DO THAT. SO I'LL GET OFF MY SOAPBOX NOW AND SAY THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? NO. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TO BE WITH US THIS EVENING. IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, YES, WE DEFINITELY WANT BUSINESSES TO COME. HOWEVER, THERE SEEMS TO BE A DISCONNECT WITH THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMING THAT ARE HERE WITH THE LOCAL RESIDENTS BEING ABLE TO TAP INTO AND FILL OUT AN APPLICATION THAT THAT SEEMS TO BE A REAL LONG STRETCH. I'VE TRIED MYSELF JUST TO SEE HOW TO GO ABOUT IT. AND THE WHEN YOU GO TO INDEED YOU MJ, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT EMPLOYMENT CONNECTIONS AND IT TAKE YOU FROM HERE TO HERE TO HERE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE HAD DIFFICULT DIFFICULTIES AND THEY LIKE GREEN SOLUTIONS AND THE METAL THEY THEY CAN'T SEEM TO CONNECT WITH THOSE PEOPLE EVEN WHEN THEY GO UP TO WHAT'S THE OFFICE WITH MISS DONNA? CARMEN WORKS AT SOMETIMES SHE DOESN'T. THOSE. THE CHAMBER. CHAMBER. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. THERE IS NO CONNECTION THERE EITHER. THE PEOPLE, THE COMPANIES ARE NOT GIVING HER THE INFORMATION. SO. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON. THERE ARE A LOT OF BUILDINGS COMING UP. AND. BUT FOR SOME REASON, THE RESIDENTS OF INDIANTOWN CANNOT ACCESS, THEY CAN'T GET, THEY CAN'T CONNECT. SO WE REALLY NEED TO WORK ON THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          [COMMENTS BY VILLAGE MANAGER]
COMMENTS BY THE VILLAGE MANAGER. NO, JUST A REMINDER FOR NEXT THURSDAY ON THE 31ST OF JULY AT 9:00, A JOINT MEETING AT THE BLAKE LIBRARY WITH THE MARTIN COUNTY CITY OF STEWART, THE MARTIN COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND US. OKAY. VERY GOOD. OKAY. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. DO I 
          [APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE AGENDA, AS IS MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN PALMER. 
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SECOND, I SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN WATERS BROWN. YES. WATERS. BROWN. ALL IN FAVOR? 
          [APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]
AYE. THAT'S UNANIMOUSLY CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCILWOMAN ONSLAUGHT. SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN PALMER. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. PASS 
          [Approval of Contract with Kimley Horn in the amount of $1,021,700.00 for Design, Permitting and Bid Phase Services for the existing Indiantown Water Treatment Plant Improvements.]
UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. REGULAR AGENDA. WE GOT APPROVAL OF CONTRACT WITH KIMLEY-HORN. YES, SIR. I WILL BE TAKING THIS ITEM. SO BEFORE YOU, YOU HAVE A REQUEST TO APPROVE $1,021,700 FOR DESIGN PERMITTING IN THE BID PHASE, SERVICES FOR THE EXISTING INDIANTOWN WATER TREATMENT PLANT. YOU HEARD, MR. FLORIO ALLUDED EARLIER TO THE SRF FUNDING THAT THE VILLAGE RECEIVED, AND IT WAS $12,375,000, AND THAT WAS TO PAY FOR THE ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION. AND WE'VE ASKED KIMLEY-HORN TO PROVIDE THAT DESIGN AND BIDDING SUPPORT FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. AND THEY'RE ALL LAID OUT WITHIN THE AGENDA ITEM. YOU'VE GOT THE SUPER SURFICIAL AQUIFER, WELL, IMPROVEMENTS. YOU'VE GOT SOME WATER PLANT IMPROVEMENTS, AND YOU'VE ALSO THIS THIS WILL HELP US. THIS WILL NOT GET US MORE CAPACITY. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ON THAT. THIS IS YOUR EXISTING WATER PLANT. YOUR EXISTING WATER PLANT IS CURRENTLY PERMITTED TO DO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GALLONS PER DAY. IT HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO PRODUCE AT THAT LEVEL. WE'RE PROBABLY RUNNING, IF I HAD TO GUESS, TOM, MAYBE 75, 80%. YEAH. 
          AND SO THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'LL BE MAKING TO OUR EXISTING WATER PLANT. AND I THINK ONE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS TOO IS THE WATER STORAGE TANK. AND SO THIS WILL JUST HELP US DO BETTER. 
          THIS WILL HELP US GET MORE CAPACITY OUT OF THE SYSTEM, BUT IT WILL NOT PROVIDE US WITH ADDITIONAL CAPACITY TO START HAVING ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT, IF YOU WILL. AND IT WILL BE IT WILL GIVE US A MORE RESILIENT SYSTEM AND IT WILL HELP US JUST HAVE MORE RESILIENCY AND DEPENDENCY, QUITE HONESTLY, ON THE EXISTING EXISTING SYSTEM. SO. IT WAS PART OF THIS SRF FUNDING, WHICH WE I DON'T REMEMBER. MICHAEL, DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MUCH WAS FORGIVEN ON THAT TWO THIRDS FORGIVENESS GIVEN OUR STATUS? AND SO EVEN THOUGH IT WAS 12.375, THE VILLAGE WILL BE ON THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE FOR A THIRD OF THAT. SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVE THIS ALLOCATION AND THAT'S IT. UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. MR. BOTH REPRESENTATIVES FROM KIMLEY-HORN ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, SHOULD YOU HAVE THEM. 
          AND AS YOU KNOW, MR. JENSEN IS OUR VILLAGE ENGINEER, SO WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE HIM AND LUCKY TO HAVE HIM ON THIS PROJECT. I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION. HOW LONG WILL THIS WATER PLANT BE FUNCTIONING IF THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A STOPGAP TILL THE NEW PLANT CAN BE UP AND RUNNING. BUT HOW LONG DO YOU PROPOSE THAT THIS PLANT WILL CONTINUE TO SERVICE US WITH THESE IMPROVEMENTS? I'LL LET MR. JENSEN ANSWER THAT. THANK YOU. 
          SO, LIKE LIKE TERRANCE, I'M TOM JENSEN WITH KIMLEY-HORN. I'M ALSO YOUR ENGINEER HERE MAYBE 2 OR 3 TIMES A WEEK HERE. SO YOUR QUESTION IS RELATIVE. I GET HOW LONG IS THE OLD PLANT GOING TO BE FUNCTIONING CORRECT WITH THESE IMPROVEMENTS? HOW LONG WILL THAT GIVE US ON THE OLD PLANT? AS LONG AS WE CAN KEEP IT RUNNING. YOU KNOW, WE'RE FORTUNATE TO GET. AND I'LL DEFINE WHY I SAID IT THAT WAY. WE KNOW WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER 1.2 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. WE CAN GET OUT OF THAT PLANT ANYWHERE ELSE. I WOULD PROBABLY NOT PUT MONEY INTO IT, BUT WE HAVE NO CHOICE. I CAN'T THROW THAT PLANT AWAY. PAT NOLAND I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE NOW, SO WE'RE FORTUNATE WE'VE GOT THE 12.375 MILLION. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ENHANCEMENTS TO IT. LIKE MR. KRISTA SAID, TO IMPROVE SOME WATER QUALITY BY REDOING THE FILTERS, ADD SOME ADDITIONAL GROUND STORAGE TANK AND NEW HIGH SERVICE PUMPS TO HELP IMPROVE SOME OF THE PRESSURES IN THE SYSTEM. BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS THAT MR. NOLAN CAN'T GET WHAT HE NEEDS OUT OF 
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THE GROUND, OUT OF THE WELLS. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE REPLACING TWO WELLS COMPLETELY IN THE PROCESS. 
          AND THE OTHER WELLS WE'RE GOING TO BE OVER DRILLING THEM, BASICALLY IMPROVING THEM FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A PRODUCTION. SO WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS THING GO FOR ANOTHER TEN YEARS IF WE COULD. AS AS YOU KNOW, ALL WE ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH PLANNING FOR AND DESIGNING A NEW R.O. PLANT. THAT'S OUR LONG TERM FIX. BUT WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE CAN BECAUSE VERY EXPENSIVE FOR THE NEXT GO AROUND FOR THE RO PLANT. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TRY TO KEEP THIS PLANT GOING AS LONG AS WE CAN, BECAUSE THAT 1 MILLION GALLONS A DAY THAT WE CAN GET OUT OF IT SUCCESSFULLY IS GOING TO ENHANCE THE WHOLE PROCESS, IMPROVE WATER QUALITY AS WE BLEND IT WITH THE NEW PLANT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. SO IT TAKES TWO YEARS TO SAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK, TWO YEARS TO BUILD A NEW WATER PLANT TO BUILD A NEW ONE, THE NEW RO PLANT. WE'RE PROJECTING. YOU HAVEN'T MET JASON LEE. THAT WORKS FOR ME. THAT DOES A LOT OF PLANT WORK. MORE THAN I DO, OBVIOUSLY. BUT THE NEW RO PLANT, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON, AND IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE ON AN EXPEDITED SCHEDULE. THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING OF THE NEW PLANT PROBABLY A YEAR. IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? AND THAT WILL PROBABLY BE GOING OUT AS A DESIGN BUILD. 
          CONSTRUCTION. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PHASE THE CONSTRUCTION TO TRY TO EXPEDITE IT. YOU MADE COMMENTS A LONG TIME AGO. LET'S GET SOME WALLS UP. SO AS WE GO THROUGH THE DESIGN, WE'LL LOOK AT WAYS WE CAN EXPEDITE BY DOING PORTIONS OF IT THAT WE'RE ALREADY IN THE MIX OF DOING ALREADY. AS FAR AS THE DEEP YOU SEE UNDER CONSTRUCTION TODAY, THAT WE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD ON, THE FLOORING WELLS WILL BE COMING NEXT. THE PIPELINE BETWEEN THE TWO PLANTS WILL BE COMING NEXT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT OBVIOUSLY WHEN JASON AND HIS TEAM GO THROUGH AND START DESIGNING THE PLANT, WHAT WE CAN DO UNDER THE DESIGN BUILD PROCESS THAT WE'LL HAVE, WHAT PORTIONS THAT WE COULD DO. BUT TYPICALLY MY ENVISIONING RIGHT NOW, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE SOME WORKSHOPS ON IT INTERNALLY BECAUSE EVERYTHING HAS BEEN MOVING SO QUICKLY AS I'VE BEEN GETTING INVOLVED IN THE VILLAGE HERE, WE WERE LOOKING AT AN ULTIMATE CAPACITY OF 3.6 MGD, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD DESIGN IT FOR A 4.8 MGD PLANT TO GIVE US FLEXIBILITY, BECAUSE I THINK AS WHAT I KNOW HERE IN THE VILLAGE, AS SOON AS THAT PLANT GETS TURNED ON, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BIG INFLUX OF PEOPLE WANTING TO DO THINGS HERE IN THE VILLAGE. SO I WANT TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT AND NOT HAVE SOME UNKNOWN COSTS DOWN THE ROAD. SO IN OUR PLAN IS BASICALLY YOU CAN GET UP IN STAGES, RIGHT? DIFFERENT MEMBRANE FILTERS WOULD GO IN. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH THE FIRST PLANT EXPANSION FOR THE FIRST PLANT WOULD BE SIZE BASICALLY FOR TO PRODUCE 2.4 MGD, IT WAS GOING TO BE 1.2. BUT I SEE TOO MUCH GOING ON. I THINK WE'LL GO STRAIGHT UP TO 2.4. SO THAT CONSTRUCTION, MR. MAYOR, WILL PROBABLY BE RIGHT AROUND TWO YEARS TO CONSTRUCT THAT ABOUT RIGHT, JASON? THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. SO WE HAVE TO DO OUR BEST WHEN GETTING TO THE PLANT TO WHAT WE CAN. WE'RE FORTUNATELY WITH WHO WE HAVE HERE AT KIMLEY-HORN, WITH THE STAFF I HAVE, WE HAVE A PRETTY DEEP BENCH OF PEOPLE. BUT A YEAR IS A GOOD NUMBER TO LOOK AT AS FAR AS DESIGN AND PERMITTING AND THEN TWO YEARS, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT TRYING TO PHASE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH DESIGN RIGHT NOW AND THEN GET INTO THE DESIGN PROCESS, PROBABLY IN 5 OR 6 MONTHS FROM NOW, AND THEN PULL A TRIGGER AND TRY TO BUILD CERTAIN THINGS EARLY IN THE GAME TO TRY TO SHORTEN THAT UP, BECAUSE IT'S GREATLY NEEDED, EVEN EVEN WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS EVENING, THAT THAT PATENT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR QUITE A WHILE, ONCE WE HAVE THE SRF FUNDINGS AND MR. FLORA, WE HAD ALL THAT WORK TO GO THROUGH TO JUSTIFY THE PAYBACK THAT WE HAD TO DO FROM A REVENUE PERSPECTIVE. ALL THAT'S IN PLACE NOW, WE CAN WE CAN MOVE RIGHT AHEAD. SO WITH JASON AND HIS TEAM BACK IN THE OFFICE, ALL THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT MR. CRESTA TALKED ABOUT IS SORELY NEEDED ALSO. SO WE DON'T HAVE THESE SURPRISES. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING? SURE WE ARE, BUT WE CAN. CAN WE ELIMINATE IT BY MAKING THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE STATE? YES, WE CAN. AND IT GIVES PEOPLE LIKE PAT, IVAN AND OTHERS AT THE PLANT SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN REALLY GET THEIR ARMS AROUND AND NOT BE WORRIED ABOUT AT NIGHT, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SOME FAILURE SOMEWHERE. THAT'S THE BIG THING, CORRECT? OKAY. SO MY OTHER QUESTION IS, ONCE, ONCE THIS NEW PLANT IS BUILT, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE OLD ONE ONLINE. RIGHT. PAT AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT. WE ARE YEAH WE'RE INVESTING IN IT RIGHT NOW. AND WE'LL TAKE IT AND BLEND IT BASICALLY TO HAVE THE HARBOR WATER AND THE WATERS OFF THIS OFFICIAL WELLS. CORRECT. OKAY. SO HOW MANY GALLONS ARE WE DOING OUT OF THE OLD PLANT? WELL, TODAY WE'RE RIGHT AROUND ON ON MOST DAYS, AROUND 600,000 GALLONS A DAY. THAT'S GOING UP NOW BECAUSE OF SOME IRRIGATION THAT WE'RE BASICALLY ADDRESSING 
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OVER AT TERRA LAGO, BECAUSE WE'RE THAT BASICALLY THEY DON'T HAVE REUSE. THEY HAVE RECLAIMED MAINS OUT THERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY YET. SO THEY'RE BASICALLY WE'RE USING SOME OF THE CAPACITY THEY'VE ALREADY PAID FOR AND USING IT FOR IRRIGATION. SO SOME DAYS ON PUTTING ON IRRIGATION DEMANDS WILL HIT 800,000 GALLONS A DAY. AT THAT POINT. WHAT'S IT CAPABLE OF PRODUCING? YOU'RE PERMITTING AT 1.269, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO GO AS HIGH AS THAT. YOU WANT TO STAY BELOW THAT FROM REGULATORY PERSPECTIVES. I THINK IT'S SAFE AROUND EIGHT, 800 TO 1 MILLION PROBABLY. I'D PROBABLY LOOK AT A MILLION GALLONS A DAY OUT OF THAT PLANT. AND YOU'RE GOING TO DO A NEW PLANT AT 1.4. NO, THE NEW THE NEW PLANT, THE OVERALL PLANT, THE BUILDING WE'RE GOING TO BUILD, THE FOOTPRINT, THE WHOLE BUILDING WILL BE ABLE TO GENERATE ENOUGH RO MEMBRANES TO HAVE 4.8, 4.8 INITIALLY WHEN WE WHEN WE CONSTRUCT THIS PLANT, THE BUILDING WILL BE SIZED TO HOUSE ALL THAT AS WE AS WE EXPAND. BUT RIGHT OFF THE GATE WHEN WE TURN THE SWITCH ON, WE'LL BE DOING 2.4 MGD. 2.4 PLUS 2 MILLION COME FROM THE FROM THE OLD PLANT. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S THE GOOD WAY TO DO IT. I WAS LOOKING AT 1.2 BEFORE FOR THE RO, BUT KNOWING WHAT I KNOW NOW AND SEEING IT OUT THERE, I WE'RE GOING TO GO RIGHT TO 2.4 AS WE'RE TRYING TO GET ALL THIS FUNDING ISN'T ALWAYS GOING TO BE THERE. I WANT TO CAPTURE ALL I CAN NOW AND BUILD WHAT I CAN TO BE LONG TERM. I DON'T WANT TO TURN THAT PLANT ON AND COME BACK TO YOU ALL AND SAY, HEY, NOW WE HAVE TO EXPAND ALREADY. WE CAN'T DO THAT. I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. NO. OKAY, I THINK YOU GOT A GOOD PLAN. YEAH. SOUNDS GREAT WORKING ON IT FOR A WHILE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE. MADE BY COUNCILMAN. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN WATERS. 
          BROWN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. PASS UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. WHAT ELSE HAVE WE GOT HERE? MILLAGE RATE. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS THE BIG ONE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO HELP ME, 
          [RESOLUTION NO. 006-2025: A RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, ESTABLISHING A PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE FOR THE LEVY OF AD VALOREM TAXES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025-2026; SPECIFYING THE COMPUTED ROLLED-BACK RATE; PROVIDING FOR THE DATE, TIME, AND PLACE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE AND TENTATIVE BUDGET AND TO ADOPT A FINAL MILLAGE RATE AND FINAL BUDGET; PROVIDING FOR TRANSMITTAL TO THE MARTIN COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER; PROVIDING FOR ADVERTISEMENT OF THE FINAL HEARING TO ADOPT A FINAL MILLAGE RATE AND FINAL BUDGET; PROVIDING FOR RECITALS AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.]
RENEE? I WON'T USE THIS GUN. OH, UP. DOWN. GOTCHA. I'M NEW AT THIS, SO I'M. I'M GOING TO GO OVER A FEW SLIDES ABOUT THE MILLAGE RATE SO WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, THE STATE NORMALLY WE GET OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS FROM THE STATE EARLIER THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING. IN FACT, WE JUST GOT LAST WEEK, THE FRS, THE FLORIDA RETIREMENT SYSTEM, CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THE EMPLOYERS AND THAT USUALLY WE GET SOMETIME IN JUNE. 
          SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE KIND OF BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL HERE. AND POOR MR. FLORIO HAS BEEN WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY, NOT ONLY ON OUR BUDGET INFORMATION, BUT HE'S ALSO BEEN ASKED TO PROVIDE NUMEROUS DATA, IF YOU WILL, TO THE STATE. SO WITH THE DISCUSSION, I'M NOT GOING TO READ THESE, BUT THIS IS ALL SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH. AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE STOP ME. AND. LET'S SEE THERE. 
          SO OUR PROPERTY VALUES OOPS. OUR PROPERTY VALUES, AS WE'VE ALLUDED TO IN THE PAST, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE PROPERTY VALUES WE GOT THIS YEAR ON JULY 1ST WERE PROPERTY VALUES THAT WERE RECEIVED AS OF THE END OF DECEMBER FROM 2024. SO WE'RE ALWAYS A YEAR BEHIND. SO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS DEFINING THE CATEGORIES BASED UPON THE USE, NOT BASED UPON HOW THEY'RE ZONED. SO THE USE CAN BE RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, WAREHOUSE, AG, ETC. AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP. SO I HAVE BROKEN THESE DOWN INTO SINGLE FAMILY. WELL THEY THEY BREAK THEM DOWN INTO SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY. THEY HAVE INDUSTRIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND THEN THE VILLAGE HAS MIXED USE ETC. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE CATEGORIES THAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT PROJECTS COMING INTO THE VILLAGE, ESSENTIALLY THE PROJECTS THAT'S COMING IN, THE PROPERTY THEY'RE ACQUIRING OR LOOKING TO ACQUIRE IS THE USE ALLOWABLE. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT LAND USE DOES. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO EXEMPTIONS OUT THERE. SO IF YOU GO ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE THERE'S MULTIPLE EXEMPTIONS. HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS. NOT THE ONLY EXEMPTION. THERE'S AGRICULTURAL EXEMPTIONS. THERE'S DISABLED VETERAN YOU KNOW. ET CETERA. THERE'S PEOPLE WITH FINANCIAL HARDSHIP. THERE'S VARIOUS EXEMPTIONS YOU CAN APPLY FOR. SO YOUR PRELIMINARY TAX 
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BASE THAT WE GOT JUNE 1ST WAS TWO POINT ALMOST 2.4 MILLION. AND THEN ON JULY 1ST WE GOT THE SHORED UP NUMBERS, IF YOU WILL, AND WE WERE STILL 4.5% REDUCTION, PRIMARILY IN YOUR TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS APPARENTLY THERE WAS ABOUT 200 MILLION OF INVENTORY THAT CAME OFF OF THE STORAGE FACILITY OVER ON MARKET. AND YOUR HOMESTEAD PROPERTY VALUES HAVE INCREASED 2.9%. THAT IS ESTABLISHED BY THE STATE. EVERY HOMESTEAD PROPERTY WILL GO UP BASED ON EITHER CPI OR 3%, WHICHEVER IS LESS. AND SO THIS YEAR THE STATE SET IT AT 2.9. SO HERE'S A TABLE WITH THE VARIOUS TAXABLE VALUES ON IT. YOU CAN SEE IT'S FROM JULY TO JULY. AND THE REASON I DO THAT IS BECAUSE IN OCTOBER WHEN THEY DO THE VALUE ADJUSTMENT BOARD, THE NUMBERS CAN FLUCTUATE A LITTLE BIT. BUT IT JUST IS CONFUSING. SO FOR CONSISTENCY I'VE GOT JULY TO JULY AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE WENT DOWN OVER $111 MILLION. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PARCELS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE VILLAGE, THE MAROON PART OF THIS PIE ARE YOUR RESIDENTIAL, AND THEN THE KIND OF MUSTARD COLORED IS YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY. AND SO THAT'S WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW MANY PARCELS YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE 353 WITH TPP AND YOU HAVE 1898 RESIDENTIAL. SO THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TAXABLE VALUES IN THE BREAKDOWN TO YOUR TWO POINT ALMOST 2 MILLION, 2 BILLION, 369 MILLION, YOU CAN SEE HOW NOW THE MUSTARD PIECE IS YOUR LARGEST PIECE AT 83.65%, WHICH IS 84%. AND THEN YOUR RESIDENTIAL IS JUST SLIGHTLY OVER 5% OF YOUR TAX BASE. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TAXES AND RAISING TAXES, THE BULK OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IMPACTED, IF YOU DECIDE TO RAISE TAXES, ARE THE INDIVIDUALS PAYING THAT TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY, AND PRIMARILY FPL. AND AS MR. FLORIO ALLUDED TO, THE TPP, THE TAXABLE PERSONAL PROPERTY REBATE PROGRAM, THAT WE HAVE ROUGHLY 25% OF WHATEVER THEY PAY IN ADDITIONAL TAXES THEY GET A REBATE ON. SO THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR VALUES, INDIVIDUALS KIND OF GET CONFUSED WITH THIS BECAUSE THE PROPERTY APPRAISER SITE IS GREAT. SO ANYTIME YOU'RE INTERESTED IN BUYING A PIECE OF PROPERTY, OR SOMEBODY HAS BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY OR YOU WANT TO LOOK AT A PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND YOU CAN SEE THE VALUE HISTORY. AND IN THAT VALUE HISTORY, THEY HAVE MARKET VALUE, WHICH IS ADJUST VALUE IS THE ACTUAL VALUE OF THE PROPERTY WITHOUT ANY EXEMPTIONS. AND SO IT'S THE LAND VALUE PLUS ANY IMPROVEMENTS. AND THEN THEY HAVE TAXABLE VALUE WHICH IS YOUR ASSESSED VALUE. AND THAT IS THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. LESS EXCEPTIONS. SO OUR TAXABLE VALUE AGAIN FOR 2025 WAS 2,369,000,000. THERE'S A 16.3% DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR MARKET TOTAL TO YOUR TOTAL TAXABLE VALUES. THAT EQUATES TO $461 MILLION. SO ESSENTIALLY IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE EXEMPTIONS, YOU COULD REALIZE $841,000 MORE INTO THE BUDGET, WHICH WOULD MEAN YOU COULD EITHER LOWER YOUR MILLAGE RATE OR, YOU KNOW, YOU'D HAVE THAT EXTRA FUND. SO IT'S SO FOR ME, IT'S HARD WHEN INDIVIDUALS START TALKING ABOUT DOING VARIOUS THINGS WITH PROPERTY TAXES, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE THAT'S OUR MAIN IT'S NOT 50% OF YOUR SO IT CAN IT WILL BE A CHALLENGE FOR US, IF ANYTHING, LIKE ADDITIONAL HOMESTEAD SHOULD BE OFFERED. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR MARKET VALUES, AGAIN, A LARGE CHUNK OF THE MARKET VALUES IS THE TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT MARKET VALUES FOR THE RESIDENTIAL, IT'S A LITTLE OVER. IT'S ALMOST 11%. AND THEN AG AND THE INDUSTRIAL ETC. SO THIS IS JUST A TABLE. SO YOU CAN VISUALIZE I'M A REALLY VISUAL PERSON. HOW MANY PARCELS ARE IN EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES, HOW HOW MUCH THEIR MARKET VALUE IS, WHAT THE TAX BASE TAXABLE 
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VALUE IS. AND THEN THAT DIFFERENCE AND WHAT THE PERCENTAGE IS. SO BECAUSE AG AND INSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE GOVERNMENT IS ALMOST 100%. EXEMPTED, WITH THOSE BEING SUCH HIGH PERCENTAGES, IT'S COMPLETELY OFFSET WITH YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY HAVE VERY, VERY LIMITED EXEMPTIONS AVAILABLE TO THEM. SO THIS IS JUST A CHART. AGAIN, JUST TO VISUALIZE. IT'S EASY TO SEE THE VARIANCES THERE IF YOU WILL. AND THEN THIS IS THE OTHER WAY WITH THE MARKET VALUE. HOW MUCH OF THERE IS EXEMPTED BY PERCENTAGE. AND SO THE TOTAL OVERALL IS THAT 16.3%. AND THEN THIS GOES BACK INTO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT DIVERSIFYING OUR TAX BASE. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THAT THESE OPTIONS AVAILABLE. SO NOW I'M GOING TO SHIFT GEARS AND TALK ABOUT MILLAGE RATE. SO YOUR MILLAGE RATE IS YOUR TAX RATE. AND IT'S APPLIED TO YOUR TAX. TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUES. THE ADOPTED MILLAGE RATE FOR YOUR THIS FISCAL YEAR FY 25, WHICH STARTED OCTOBER OF 24 AND WILL END IN SEPTEMBER OF 25, WAS 1.8250. WITH THE DECREASE IN YOUR TAXABLE VALUE, THE MILLAGE RATE SHOULD BE ADJUSTED. IN MY OPINION, TO MAINTAIN OR EVEN INCREASE YOUR REVENUES FROM YOUR PRIOR YEAR. SO TO MAINTAIN IT'S CALLED THE ROLLBACK RATE. ONCE YOUR TENTATIVE MILLAGE IS ESTABLISHED, IT WILL BE REFLECTED ON THE TRUTH IN MILLAGE, WHICH IS THE TRIM NOTICES THAT WILL BE MAILED OUT BY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER MID-AUGUST. THAT TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE, AGAIN ONCE ADOPTED, CAN ONLY BE REDUCED. IT CANNOT BE RAISED UNLESS YOU GO THROUGH THE MAILINGS AND THE HEARINGS ALL OVER AGAIN. YOU HAD 13.13 MILLION IN NEW CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENTS, AND I'VE LISTED THEM THERE. EAST COAST METALS, ALMOST $6.5 MILLION. THE KENDAL INDUSTRIES, 2.3 MILLION RIVER OAK. AND THIS IS WHAT GOT ME STARTED THINKING ABOUT FUTURE OF YOUR TAX BASE, PARTICULARLY SO RIVER OAK THEY GO. THEY BOUGHT LAND FOR TWO MORE PHASES OVER OVER ON THE WATER AND SURROUNDING THE MARINA. AND WHEN THEY BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY THEY LOST THEIR AG EXEMPTION. THAT'S A GOOD THING. BUT THEY CAN REAPPLY FOR IT. SO WE GOT THE BENEFIT OF IT COMING OFF. AND WE HAD AN INCREASE OF THE 2.4 MILLION. BUT IF THEY APPLY FOR IT AND THEY IT GOES BACK ON AND THEY GET IT AND THEY HAVE UNTIL MARCH. SO EVEN THOUGH THE DEADLINE FOR NORMAL PROPERTY IS DECEMBER OF 2024, THEY WOULD HAVE UNTIL MARCH OF 2025 TO QUALIFY AND GET APPROVED. AND ONCE THAT HAPPENS, THEY WOULD COME OFF THE TAX ROLL FOR THE JUNE 1ST NUMBERS. SO I JUST IT'S GOOD THAT WE GOT IT THIS YEAR, BUT THERE'S POTENTIAL. WE COULD LOSE IT NEXT OR IN THE FUTURE. SO AGAIN ONCE THAT TENTATIVE MILLAGE IS ESTABLISHED YOU CAN LOWER IT. THE MAXIMUM MILLAGE RATE PER THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE ON THEIR THEIR FORMS THAT THEY GIVE TO US IS TREMENDOUS. IT'S 6.8644. AND THAT'S BECAUSE INITIALLY WHEN THE VILLAGE HAD A MILLAGE RATE, IT INCLUDED THE FIRE RESCUE PORTION THAT THE COUNTY NOW COLLECTS. SO YOUR MILLAGE WENT UP AND THEN IT WENT DOWN. BUT THAT MAXIMUM CALCULATION IS BASED ON YOUR WHAT YOUR MILLAGE WAS AT THE HIGHEST POINT, IF YOU WILL, YOUR CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENTS AND ANY EXEMPTIONS BEING MADE DURING 2026 WILL IMPACT YOUR TAXABLE VALUE FOR NEXT YEAR, WHICH WILL START IN 2025, IN OCTOBER AND GO TILL SEPTEMBER OF 2026. CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENTS COMPLETED BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2025 WILL IMPACT YOUR MILLAGE CALCULATIONS FOR 2627 AND THEN ANY EXEMPTIONS THAT VARY FROM FOR APPLICATION SUBMITTALS AND DEADLINES CAN ALSO IMPACT YOU ALL TAXPAYERS. ALL TAXPAYERS PAY THE COUNTYWIDE AND FIRE MUNICIPAL SERVICE TAXING UNIT, WHICH IS THE MSTU. SO REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU LIVE, EVERYONE PAYS INTO THAT. THEY 
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BOTH WENT DOWN SLIGHTLY. SO EVEN SO, ESSENTIALLY, IF YOU CONSIDER HAVING A SLIGHT INCREASE OVERALL, THE RESIDENTS WILL SEE VERY LITTLE IMPACT. AND THEN I ASKED THE PROPERTY APPRAISER BECAUSE I, I SAW WHERE MARTIN COUNTY HAD THEIR MEDIAN ASSESSED VALUE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WAS $309,839, AND THE VILLAGE IS AT $89,135. YEAH. AND SO I'M GIVING YOU SOME OPTIONS HERE. 
          IDEALLY, I DON'T WANT TO I WOULD PREFER THAT WE DON'T LOSE ANY GROUND. AND AFTER YOU HEARD MR. FLORIO, I MEAN, WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME INCREASES. WE KNOW SOME OF THE REVENUES ARE BEING IMPACTED. THERE'S OTHER EXPENDITURES THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. BUT AT THE 1.9157, THAT'S YOUR ROLLBACK RATE. AND THAT WILL GET YOU EVEN AD VALOREM TAXES THAT WOULD BE GENERATED. BUT IF YOU WANTED TO CONSIDER ANOTHER NUMBER THAT MR. FLORIO TOLD ME THAT THE AUDITORS THAT WE HAD THE FIRST TIME THEY WERE EXPOSED TO THE VILLAGE BUDGET AND THE NUMBERS, THE GENTLEMAN MADE THE COMMENT, I CAN'T, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU CAN EVEN OPERATE LESS THAN TWO MILLS. HE KIND OF SAID THAT WAS UNHEARD OF. SO I WENT BACK TO LOOK AT, OUT OF THE 411 MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, ONLY 24 OF THEM ARE LESS THAN TWO, AND WE'RE ONE OF THEM. SO ANYWAYS, THAT'S JUST A FOOD FOR THOUGHT. SO IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT ROLLBACK RATE, THAT'S WHAT YOUR PIE WILL LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THE DOLLARS THAT WILL BE GENERATED, YOU WILL GET 3 MILLION, ALMOST 3.8 MILLION OUT OF THE TPP. AND THEN YOU'LL GET 200 AND ALMOST 240,000 FROM RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN THE REST OF THEM, YOU CAN SEE THERE HOW IT PANS OUT. SO FOR AGAIN, THE TAX BASE NEEDS TO DIVERSIFY TO MINIMIZE THESE NEGATIVE IMPACTS FROM THE TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY, PRIMARILY FOR POWER AND LIGHT. THEY CAN'T THEY IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT, IF YOU WILL. I MEAN, IF THEY HAVE AN EVENT AND THEY HAVE TO MOVE MATERIAL TO ADDRESS THAT EMERGENCY, THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE IT. AND THESE ARE BIG PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. AND SO COMPARED TO THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HERE IN THE IN THE COUNTY, YOU CAN SEE OCEAN BREEZE HAS 5.5% TPP CITY STUART HAS SIX. IN 2018. THE VILLAGE. I THOUGHT THIS WAS AN INTERESTING FACT. IN 2018 THE VILLAGE REPRESENTED 10.8% OF MARTIN COUNTY'S TOTAL TAX BASE. BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH IN THE COUNTY, THAT HAS SHRUNK DOWN TO 5.9%. THERE'S A LEGISLATIVE THREAT TO MODIFY OR ELIMINATE PROPERTY TAXES THAT WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT US. EVEN IF YOU LOOKED AT NEW RESIDENTIAL GOING 45 UNITS PER MONTH FOR A FULL YEAR, FOR FULL YEAR, YOU WOULD GET AN INCREASE IN YOUR TAX BASE BY ABOUT 5%. TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, IF YOU WERE TRYING TO REPLACE THE NUMBER OF ROOFTOPS TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE FOR WHAT YOU HAVE IN TPP, IT'D BE OVER 7000 HOMES YOU WOULD NEED. YES, WE'RE TALKING IN VERY LARGE NUMBERS. YES. AND I THINK THEY DON'T NECESSARILY CONNECT WITH THE PUBLIC. CAN YOU TELL ME? PER HOUSEHOLD, HAVE YOU DONE THE FIGURES ON PER HOUSEHOLD, ON THE INCREASES ON EACH OF THOSE LEVELS THAT YOU, THE 1.19 TO THE 2%? WELL THAT'S HARD. I MEAN, I CAN OBVIOUSLY CALCULATE IT, BUT IT'S HARD BECAUSE EVERY HOME IS VALUED AT A DIFFERENT. SO I MIGHT TELL YOU IT WOULD BE RIGHT NOW WHAT ARE OUR I THINK YOU AND I HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE AVERAGE TAX THAT WE EVEN BRING IN. IT'S VERY MINIMAL. THE RESIDENTS ARE NOT PAYING THE BILLS IN THE VILLAGE. YEAH. I MEAN WE'RE NOT EVEN AND I KNOW THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S COMING OUT OF THEIR DOLLARS. BUT WHAT THEY NEED TO REALIZE IS THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT YOU GUYS ARE NOT PAYING THE BILLS. IT'S A VERY, VERY SMALL AMOUNT. I THINK IT'S LESS THAN $300 A HOUSEHOLD ON AVERAGE THAT COMES INTO THE VILLAGE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT AND IT WASN'T THAT MUCH. AND SO I THINK PUTTING IT IN NUMBERS THAT CAN CONNECT WITH THE INDIVIDUAL, IT MIGHT HELP IN OUR ASSESSMENTS ARE VERY LOW AS COMPARED TO THE COUNTY. YEAH. 
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THESE NEW. THESE NEW HOMES COMING IN. IT'S GOING TO HELP THAT. AND IT'S GOING TO UNFORTUNATELY AND FORTUNATELY IT'S GOING TO CHANGE SOME OF OUR STATUSES. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO DIVERSIFY AND GET OUT FROM UNDER. YOU KNOW, FPL BEING OUR MAJOR SOURCE OF INCOME. YES. AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. WHILE BENEFITS ARE STILL AVAILABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY. GETTING BACK TO WHAT THE MAYOR SAID EARLIER THIS REFERENDUM THAT WE'VE GOT OUT FOR VOTE, IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY NECESSARY. A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK WE'RE GIVING AWAY FREEBIES WHEN WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO COME, WHETHER THEY HAVE TO PAY THE TAXES OR NOT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE. SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU HAVE A SMALL, YOU KNOW, LIKE A LITTLE RUNDOWN. SO I JUST DID THE MATH ON, ON A $90,000 HOME BECAUSE THAT WAS THE MEDIAN THAT THEY HAD. IF YOU GO FROM WHERE WE ARE TODAY AT THE 1.825 TO THE ROLLBACK, IT'S ANOTHER $8.16 A YEAR, $8.16 A YEAR. GUYS TO GO TO ROLLBACK. YEAH. TO GO TO ROLLBACK. NOW THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE NEED MORE REVENUE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES YOU ALL WANT AND ARE ASKING FOR. SO $8 IS A COKE AND A MAYBE AND A BAG OF CHIPS MAYBE. SO WHEN EVERYBODY GETS EXCITED ABOUT HEARING US DEBATING AN INCREASE IN MILLAGE, WHEN YOU APPLY THAT INCREASE IN MILLAGE TO THE ACTUAL BIGGER TAX BASE THAT WE HAVE, THAT'S WHERE IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. SO I DON'T WANT EVERYBODY TO THINK THAT THIS TAX INCREASE, EVEN IF WE GO UP TO SAY, THE 1.95% MILLAGE RATE, IT'S GOING TO BE INSIGNIFICANT TO THE HOMEOWNERS IN INDIANTOWN. 
          THIS IS NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY. IT MAY BE SIGNIFICANT TO SOME FOLKS, BUT GENERALLY, OVERALL, IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S COMING IN FROM THE HOMEOWNERS, BUT IT COULD BE A VERY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY COMING IN FROM THE BUSINESSES. SO I HOPE YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE A HARDSHIP ON OUR HOMEOWNERS, BUT WE DO NEED TO GET REVENUE IN. AND SINCE OUR TAX BASE IS GENERALLY BUSINESS AND TANGIBLE TAXES, WHICH IS THE TAX ON THE PERSONAL PROPERTY, THE EQUIPMENT THAT THESE BUSINESSES ARE BRINGING HERE, IT'S VITAL THAT WE DO SOMETHING TO INCREASE OUR BUDGET, OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THE VILLAGE. SO I JUST WANTED TO BREAK THAT DOWN SO THE PUBLIC COULD HEAR THAT THEY'RE NOT WE'RE NOT TALKING HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS ON ANYONE'S TAX BILL. NO, MA'AM. SO ANYTIME SOMEBODY SAYS WE'RE GOING TO RAISE TAXES, IT'S VERY SCARY. BUT CONSIDERING WHERE OUR ACTUAL TAX REVENUE COMES FROM, THAT'S WHATEVER DECISION WE MAKE TONIGHT. WE'RE BASING IT ON THAT. I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD POINT. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I, I PERSONALLY HAVE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, THE AND I'VE BEEN SAYING IT FOR WEEKS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ALMOST AT $190,000 SHORT AND 189 934 YES. OKAY. SO WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE THAT UP. CAN WE CUT. AND THERE'S NO PLACE TO CUT. YOU KNOW, WE LOST OUR OUR GRANT FOR OUR WEEKEND TRANSPORTATION. WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WENT AND PAID FOR THE SATURDAY SERVICE. SO WE TAKE THAT AWAY FROM PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST NO PLACE TO CUT. THERE ISN'T ANY PLACE TO CUT. 
          AND WE ARE EXTREMELY UNDERSTAFFED. AND I KNOW MIKE, I MEAN, GOD BLESS YOU. YOU WORK REALLY, REALLY HARD. AND YOU YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AND. WELL, THIS TYLER SYSTEM HAS REALLY TAXED HIM AND THEN OTHER STAFF TRYING TO GET THIS IMPLEMENTATION. AND TO MRS. NICHOLS POINT, PART ONE ELEMENT OF THAT TYLER SYSTEM WILL PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY. YOU CAN AS AN INDIVIDUAL CAN GET ON THERE AND GET YOUR OWN INFORMATION. RIGHT NOW THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IS CHALLENGING, RIGHT? AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO REALLY GET TYLER UP AND 
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RUNNING. AND SO MIKE HAS BEEN FOCUSING ON THAT. AND I THINK ONCE WE GET THAT WE CAN RUN REGULAR REPORTS. MIKE WOULD LOVE TO BE GIVING YOU QUARTERLY UPDATES, BUT WE JUST HE DOESN'T HAVE THE TIME. YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I THANK HIM FOR WHAT HE DOES BECAUSE NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE WILL BE DOING IT, YOU KNOW? HE'S LOYAL TO THIS VILLAGE. I KNOW THAT BECAUSE HE CAN GO ANYWHERE ELSE AND MAKE MORE MONEY AND WORK HALF AS MUCH AS HE DOES. SO NO, I GOT HIM CHAINED TO HIS DESK. NO, NO, I APPRECIATE IT. SO. SO I WAS LOOKING WHERE CAN WE CUT? YOU KNOW, I WAS HAVING THIS DISCUSSION WITH SOMEBODY TODAY. AND LIKE, WELL, WHERE CAN WE CUT AND WE CAN'T. THERE'S NO PLACE TO CUT. SO WHAT DO WE DO? YOU KNOW, AND TO YOUR POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OUR MILLAGE RATE REALLY IS LOW. I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO GO UP ON ANYBODY'S TAXES, I REALLY DON'T. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO KEEP THIS VILLAGE SOLVENT. WE CAN'T BOUNCE CHECKS. 
          YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA PAY OUR BILLS. AND SO THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT IS TO I GUESS I HATE TO DO IT, BUT. WE GOTTA DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. YEAH, WE JUST NEED THAT TENTATIVE AND. AND THE REASON WHY YOU NEED IT TODAY, WE NEED TO DO THIS TODAY IS THE STATE PUTS 35 DAYS ON YOU. SO YOU RECEIVE THE JULY 1ST CERTIFICATE CERTIFIED VALUES. YOU HAVE ONLY 35 DAYS TO SET THAT TENANTED MILLAGE. SO AND THAT'S LIKE AUGUST 4TH AND WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER MEETING. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S CRITICAL AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS BROUGHT TO YOU TODAY. I'M SORRY. SHE HAD A SHE HAD A QUESTION I MEAN I'M ON THE CHART THAT'S ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW. IT SAYS 2025 TAXABLE VALUE, LESS NEW CONSTRUCTION. YES. WHEN YOU'RE I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. AND I'M JUST READING AN IMPROVEMENT FOR ROLLBACK. WHY ARE WE DOING WITH LESS CONSTRUCTION WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE CALCULATING THAT ROLLBACK RATE. THAT'S THE WAY THAT THAT'S THE TAX BASE THAT YOU USE TO DO THAT. EVEN IF YOU USE THE 2,000,000,003 69 IT'S NOT THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE. BUT BUT WHEN AND THE REASON I DID THAT IS BECAUSE THE FORM THE DR. FOR 20 THAT THAT THE STATE GIVES US, THAT'S THE WAY THEY DO IT AND I AND FOR TO HAVE A VARIANCE THERE OR A DIFFERENCE THERE I THOUGHT WOULD BE CONFUSING IF BECAUSE YOU REALLY SHOULD BE BACKING THAT OUT. ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY'RE SAYING WAS IF NOTHING CHANGED, WHAT WHAT MILLAGE WOULD YOU NEED IF NOTHING CHANGED OTHER THAN YOUR TAX BASE, THAT THAT TAX BASE, WHAT WOULD THE MILLAGE BE? THE FACT THAT YOU HAD NEW CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENTS. THEY IN THEIR MINDS, YOU DON'T. YOU JUST DON'T USE THAT FOR YOUR CALCULATIONS. WE CAN BUT IT WILL BE A DIFFERENT IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT NUMBER THAN WHAT'S ON THOSE STATE FORMS THAT WE HAVE TO HAND IN, WHICH YOU CAN STILL DO THAT. IT DIDN'T CHANGE IT THAT MUCH INITIALLY. I HAD DONE IT, AND I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER IN THE NEW CONSTRUCTION GENERALLY DOESN'T HAVE AN APPRAISED VALUE YET. THAT IS WHY THEY DO IT THAT WAY. AND IT'S BECAUSE IT'S EITHER. YEAH, CORRECT. SO THE REASON IT'S DONE THAT WAY IS BECAUSE THEY'VE NOT BEEN VALUED FOR TAXABLE PURPOSES UNTIL THEY'RE COMPLETED, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT INCLUDED. IF THAT MAKES IT CLEARER. IT WOULD THEN BE INCLUDED IN YOUR AS YOU GO FORWARD. BUT AS IT'S BEING DEVELOPED THERE'S NOT A TAX RATE APPLIED TO THAT. SO YOU'VE GOT TO GO BASED ON WHAT EVERYTHING'S BEHIND I KNOW. SO CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE INCREASE TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD BE AT THE TOP OF THE SCALE AT THE TWO POINTS. JUST SO WE HAVE KIND OF AN IDEA FROM. ROLLBACK TO THE TOP. 2 TO $2 PER THOUSAND ON. OOPS. I DID THAT, I DID IT. MY FINGERS AREN'T WORKING. $1,616. 
          IT DOUBLES YOUR EIGHT. OKAY, SO $16 AT THE HIGHEST PROPOSED MILL HERE A YEAR A YEAR PER YEAR. 
          OKAY GUYS, THAT'S A STOP AT MCDONALD'S. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT QUESTION. 
          SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. YES, IT'S ONLY $16. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE RENTERS? YOU KNOW MINE. I 
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SEE FAMILIES THAT ARE PAYING OVER $3,000 IN JUST RENT. OBVIOUSLY FOR HOMEOWNERS, IT'S EIGHT AND $16, BUT OBVIOUSLY LANDLORDS ARE GOING TO INCREASE BECAUSE THEY SAY, HEY, THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN JUST INCREASED THEIR TAXES. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO RAISE YOUR RENT ANOTHER $400. I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, LET'S THINK ABOUT OUR HOMEOWNERS OR RENTERS. WE HAVE FAMILY THAT ARE LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK. OBVIOUSLY, I KNOW WE HAVE BILLS TO PAY. YOU KNOW, I COVER COST THROUGH THE VILLAGE, YOU KNOW, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT. I WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT TOO. OKAY. SO. UNFORTUNATELY, THE MARKET DRIVES WHAT RENTS ARE PAID. AND RIGHT NOW RENTS ARE RIDICULOUS. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE'RE DOING A LOT IN THIS COMMUNITY TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE BECOME HOMEOWNERS, RIGHT NOW, WITH RENTS AS HIGH AS THEY ARE, IF PEOPLE ARE DILIGENT, WORK AND ARE GOOD WITH THEIR CREDIT, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE RENTERS. 
          THEY CAN BECOME HOMEOWNERS, AND WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, MID THREE HUNDREDS DOESN'T SOUND CHEAP, BUT IN FLORIDA IT IS. AND IN THIS AREA, THE THIRD RICHEST COUNTY IN THE STATE, IT'S VERY REASONABLE. AND THERE ARE SO MANY PROGRAMS THAT CAN GET PEOPLE INTO HOUSES WITH HELP WITH THEIR DOWN PAYMENTS. AND NOW, BECAUSE THE MARKET IS FLOODING WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION, THOSE INTEREST RATES ARE GOING TO COME DOWN AND PEOPLE ARE OFFERING BUY DOWN YOUR RATES TO ONE BUY DOWNS. WHEN YOU BUY NEW CONSTRUCTION, THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT OF THE RENTAL BUSINESS AND INTO OWNING, AND THAT'S ALWAYS A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT YOU GET TO WRITE YOUR INTEREST, THAT YOU PAY ON YOUR HOME, OFF YOUR TAXES. SO IT'S A HUGE BENEFIT TO OWN A HOME. I AM, I UNDERSTAND, ANGELINA, WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. BUT OUR CONSTITUENCY IS OUR TAXPAYERS AND WE OWE IT TO THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE CLEAN WATER, GOOD ROADS, THE THINGS THAT OUR MONEY THAT WE BRING IN ARE PAYING FOR. 
          WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT AN EXTRAVAGANT COUNCIL. NONE OF US. I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF US ON THIS COUNCIL ARE FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE AND VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY OVERALL. AND I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A LOT OF RENTERS. I JUST FEEL LIKE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO MORE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IF WE WEREN'T CONSTANTLY STRUGGLING TO GET BASIC SERVICES SO THAT WE CANNOT CONTROL, UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHARGE FOR RENT AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK I SEE A $400 RENTAL INCREASE BASED ON A $16 A YEAR TAX INCREASE TO THE HOMEOWNER. I DON'T THINK THAT'S FEASIBLE. I THINK THAT'S JUST PURE GREED. IF THAT DOES HAPPEN. BUT I DO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THOSE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE VILLAGE THAT DID CHOOSE TO BUY HOMES HERE AND HAVE SET DOWN ROOTS HERE AND ARE NOT JUST RENTERS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, NEEDING THE SERVICES THAT THEIR TAXES ARE PAYING FOR. IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON A RENTAL POPULATION. AND I'M SORRY, THAT SOUNDS HARSH, BUT THAT'S WE WORK FOR THE HOMEOWNERS. WE WORK FOR THE TAXPAYERS, AND WE OWE THE TAXPAYERS DUE DILIGENCE IN THAT. WHEN YOU HAVE BOUGHT A PROPERTY HERE, YOU SHOULD HAVE CLEAN WATER, YOU SHOULD HAVE GOOD WATER, YOU SHOULD HAVE GOOD WATER SERVICE, YOU SHOULD HAVE GOOD ROADS. THESE ARE THINGS WE CAN'T DO FOR THE HOMEOWNERS IF WE'RE CONSTANTLY CONSIDERING THE FOLKS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ARE HAVING A HARDER TIME. AND I THINK THAT MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO THAT'S MORE CIVICALLY MINDED IF WE HAVE TAX DOLLARS COMING IN. BUT WE'RE VOTED ON AND WE'RE WE'RE HERE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMEOWNERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS HERE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND WE HAVE TO VOTE IN THEIR BEST INTEREST. THANK YOU. I HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE THE VOTE. ARE WE GOING TO WRITE IT NOW? WE'RE GOING TO 
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HAVE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON IT. SO LET ME SPEAK MY TRUTH. 
          NOW, WE ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS A TEMPORARY REVENUE LOSS. IT'S NOT GOING TO GO ON FOREVER. WE ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO GO ON. WE HAD YESTERDAY WE HAVE RIGHT NOW FOR FUTURE IS NOT PROMISED TO ANYBODY. IS YOUR MIC ON. OH THAT WOULD HELP. THANK YOU. I'M NOT REPEATING WHAT I JUST SAID. RIGHT. OR DO I NEED TO REPEAT IT FOR RECORDING? YOU AGREE IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I LOVE YOU, WINNIE. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THIS IS A TEMPORARY LOSS OF REVENUE. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TOMORROW WILL BRING. WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WILL LAST OR IF IT WILL LAST. WE HAD YESTERDAY. WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. BUT TOMORROW IS NOT PROMISED TO ANYONE. SO FOR ME THIS YEAR, WE'VE EXPERIENCED TEMPORARY LOSS IN REVENUE, SOMETHING ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED AND EXPLAINED BY OUR VILLAGE MANAGER. BUT I DO NOT THINK THAT THIS IS A TIME TO RAISE TAXES. 
          WE'VE ALREADY ASKED OUR COMMUNITY TO PAY HIGHER UTILITY RATES, AND TODAY WE'RE ASKING THEM TO TIGHTEN THEIR BELTS EVEN MORE. THE QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED IS THIS HAVE WE AS A GOVERNMENT DONE THE SAME? HAVE WE TAKEN EVERY POSSIBLE STEP TO DEMONSTRATE FISCAL RESTRAINT AND RESPONSIBILITY BEFORE ASKING MORE OF OUR RESIDENTS? IS A TAX INCREASE REALLY NECESSARY RIGHT NOW? ARE WE THOROUGHLY EXPLORING ALL AVAILABLE OPTIONS? LET'S CONSIDER WHAT'S AHEAD. WE HAVE NEW BUSINESSES SCHEDULED TO JOIN OUR TAX ROLL IN THE FISCAL YEAR OF 26 GROWTH THAT WILL BRING ADDITIONAL REVENUE. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE NEED TO STAY FOCUSED ON PRESENT CONCERNS, NOT DISTRACTED BY WEEKLY DISCUSSIONS OR VOTES ABOUT ACQUIRING NEW PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY PROPERTIES THAT WILL THEN BE REMOVED FROM OUR TAX ROLL. OUR COMMUNITY IS POISED FOR GROWTH, AS WE KNOW THAT. AND YES, WE SHOULD PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE PRESENT, NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE PRESENT. WE ARE NOT DEVELOPERS. WE ARE NOT INVESTORS. WE ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS. OUR JOB IS TO BE RESPONSIBLE MANAGERS OF WHAT WE HAVE AND SERVE THE PEOPLE WHO RELY ON US. TODAY. HERE'S A CREATIVE SOLUTION WHAT IF WE SELL THE FIVE ACRE PARCEL WE OWN ON WARFIELD AND TRAIL DRIVE? BY DOING SO, WE WOULD PUT IT BACK ON THE TAX ROLL, RECOUP OUR INVESTMENT AND POTENTIALLY MORE. AND WE OPEN DOORS FOR A PROJECT THAT DIRECTLY BENEFITS THE PUBLIC, SUCH AS A STANDALONE EMERGENCY ROOM OR A HEALTH CARE FACILITY. WE'VE OFTEN HEARD THAT WE NEED MORE ROOFTOPS, MORE POPULATION, MORE INCOME TO ATTRACT SERVICES. THIS COULD HELP MOVE US IN THAT DIRECTION. AGAIN, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A TIME TO RAISE TAXES. 
          INSTEAD, WE MUST LEARN TO LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS AND BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE NOT JUST FOR OURSELVES, BUT FOR THE FUTURE TAXPAYERS AND THE GENERATIONS OF THIS COMMUNITY. LET'S MAKE SMART, STRATEGIC DECISIONS THAT REFLECT BOTH OUR CURRENT REALITIES AND OUR LONG TERM GOALS. I KNOW WE CAN'T PREDICT THE FUTURE, BUT THIS IS MY HEART. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE KNOW ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? MISS LINDA? NICOLE. HI. YOU'RE LUCKY TWICE TONIGHT. FOR THE RECORD, LINDA NICCUM. THE INCREASE IN THE MILLAGE I HAVE I'VE MENTALLY I HAVE I HAVE SEEN WHERE IT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE NECESSARY. I DID NOT LIKE THE FACT THAT THE MINOR INCREASES OF $4, $16 WERE ONLY BEING CALCULATED ON HOMEOWNERS WHO YOU SAID ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT IN THE OVERALL ROLE OF SUPPORTING THE VILLAGE, THAT IT'S THE INCOME THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE BUSINESSES. THAT IS WHAT IS PAYING OUR WAY RIGHT NOW. SO IF WE ARE INCREASING OUR MILLAGE IN ORDER TO GAIN MORE TAXES ON THE ON THE AD VALOREM TAXES THAT FPL AND OTHER BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE PAYING, THEN WHY ARE WE THEN TURNING AROUND AND OFFERING THEM TAX EXEMPTIONS TO REDUCE THEIR TAXES? AREN'T WE DEFEATING OUR PURPOSE? WE'RE TRYING TO RAISE OUR TAXABLE INCOME FROM 
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THE BUSINESSES, BUT YET WE WANT TO GIVE IT BACK TO THEM. YOU KNOW, AND I'M MIXING I'M MIXING TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES HERE. BUT BUT I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT THIS THE A MILLAGE INCREASE IMPACT IS GOING TO HAVE ON OUR EXISTING BUSINESSES, AS WELL AS ENCOURAGING NEW BUSINESSES TO COME IN. THOSE NUMBERS HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT JUST AS HARD AS THE $4 OR THE $16. YOU KNOW, IF THE BUSINESSES ARE ARE BREAD AND BUTTER, THEN THEN WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT ON THEM ALSO. THANK YOU. THANKS. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? YOU WANT TO HEAR MY QUESTIONS? I'LL GET OFF ALL WEEK. NO I GOT SNIP OKAY. RELEASING. I COULD TALK FOR TWO HOURS ON TAXES. AND THAT WAS ONE OF MY, ONE OF MY HOT BUTTONS WHEN I WAS ELECTED. SAY WHAT? THAT I CAN REMEMBER. JOHN. NO TURNING YOUR SLIP. HER SPEAKING. WELL, I'LL TURN IT IN NOW. CAN I GET THAT TIME BACK? I TELL YOU THAT SHE'S FINE. OKAY. IT'S FINE. GO AHEAD. ANYWAY, I DROPPED ON A FEW THINGS, AND IF YOU WERE NOT, IF YOU'RE JUST GOING TO GO ON. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS. I DON'T WANT NO ANSWERS. I JUST WANT TO KNOW. DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH IT TAKES TO OPERATE THE VILLAGE? TOTAL MONEY. AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE RATE BRINGS IN OF 18251914157? DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THAT TOTAL THING. IF IT IS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. YEAH. WELL THAT'S WHAT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A IF YOU COULD CALCULATE THIS. MIKE, IS THERE ANY UNCOLLECTED AVALON FROM LAST YEAR THAT WOULD GIVE YOU A GAUGE OF WHO'S IN TROUBLE AS FAR AS PAYING WHAT WE HAVE NOW. AND IF THAT'S THERE ANY AS A AS ELECTED OFFICIAL, ANY RATE INCREASE OR ANY SIGNIFICANT RATE INCREASE, EVEN A SLIGHT LIKE ONE OF YOU SAID, PEOPLE ARE LIVING DAY TO DAY, WEEK TO WEEK IN SOME. AND I'VE HAD THIS ISSUE UP NORTH THERE WHEN I WAS ELECTED, RAISING THE TAX $5 THAT THAT MIGHT THAT $5 MIGHT BE A COLLECTED MIGHT BE A PRESCRIPTION OF SOMEBODY IN TIME. SO I'M NOT IT DON'T AFFECT ME. I'M VERY FORTUNATE. AND MOST OF YOU GUYS THAT DON'T AFFECT. BUT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND YOU'RE THIS IS A DIFFICULT DECISION BECAUSE THIS AFFECTS EVERYBODY. 
          ALL YOUR PEOPLE LIVE WITHIN THE VILLAGE, ARE AFFECTED BY YOUR DECISION ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, WHICH IS FINE. YOU HAVE TO ANSWER FOR THAT AND YOU'RE GOING ON. I THINK THAT I GOT 50 MORE SECONDS. I GOT 4 OR 5 MORE HERE. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU MY SLIP HERE IN A MINUTE. FOR YOUR RECORD, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. YOUR NAME. SINCE YOU KNOW YOUR NAME. FOR THE RECORD, I KNOW WHO YOU ARE. THANK. YOUR TIME. YOUR TIME. YOUR TIME IS RUNNING OUT. I'M RUNNING OUT, I DON'T CARE. DOUG CALDWELL I LIVE OVER IN INWOOD. BUT SOME OF THESE THINGS I GOT, I GOT 5 OR 10 MORE. I'LL SHARE THEM WITH YOU WHEN THIS HAS TO GO THROUGH TWO ORDINANCES. I KNOW OUR VOTES TONIGHT. WE HAVE A RESOLUTION THIS EVENING THAT WILL BE ADOPTED BUT DOES NOT THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO GO TO RESOLVE THIS TONIGHT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. 
          OKAY. VERY GOOD. AND ONE THING FOR YOU. LOOK AT THE ONE. WAY. I NEED SOMEBODY TO GIVE ME SOME TIME BACK. ONE BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL THAT WAS SIGNED LAST WEEK. THERE'S SOME EXPENSING IN THAT. 
          LOOK IT UP. SEE WHAT IT IS. THANK YOU OKAY. THANK YOU DOCTOR. THANK YOU I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE THIS IN TWO VOTES. NUMBER ONE IS WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WITH RAISING. RAISING THE MILLAGE. ONCE WE'VE DECIDED THAT THEN I THINK WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT NUMBER WE'RE GOING TO. I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT INVOLVED BOTH. BEFORE WE. OKAY. CAN YOU CLEAR THIS UP? I MEAN, WE HAVE TO VOTE TONIGHT, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. YOU YOU WE HAVE ON YOUR AGENDA YOUR REGULAR AGENDA. AND THIS IS TAYLOR. SHE'S WITH 
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MR. VOSS, LAW FIRM. WE HAVE A RESOLUTION. AND ONCE YOU APPROVE THAT RESOLUTION, IT WITHIN THAT RESOLUTION, THERE'S SOME BLANKS. WE WILL FILL IN THE BLANKS OF THE MILLAGE RATE THAT IS BEING ADOPTED, AND THEN THAT WILL GET CERTIFIED TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER. AND THEN THAT IS THE RATE THAT THEY WILL USE WHEN THEY SEND OUT THAT, WHAT THEY CALL THE TRIM, NOTICE THE TRUTH MILLAGE. AND THAT'S WHERE IT HAS THE COLUMNS ON IT THAT IF NOTHING WAS CHANGED, THIS IS WHAT YOUR TAXES WOULD BE AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WHAT YOU PROPOSE. THIS IS WHAT YOUR TAXES WILL BE. AND THEN YOU HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS IN SEPTEMBER. THE FIRST ONE IS YOUR TENTATIVE HEARING, WHERE YOU CAN LOWER THAT MILLAGE RATE. AND THEN YOU WILL COME BACK, THAT WILL THEN BE ADVERTISED, AND THEN YOU CAN COME BACK AND YOU HAVE YOUR FINAL IN SEPTEMBER. I THINK WHAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT, THE ROLLBACK RATE, WHEN THEY DO THE ADS, YOU HAVE TO PUT AN AD IN THE PAPER THAT SAYS YOU ARE RAISING TAXES BY X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS, AND IF YOU ARE AT THE ROLLBACK RATE, YOU WILL NOT HAVE A TAX INCREASE BASED ON THE ADVERTISING WHICH IS ESTABLISHED BY THE STATE. SO. I HOPE THAT HELPS. OKAY, SO I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION. FIRST OF ALL TO. IF WE'RE IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS. AND THERE'S NO SENSE OF TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE. I HAVE A MOTION, OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE TO THE 1.95 MILLAGE RATE. IT'S A. MEDIAN AMOUNT. I UNDERSTAND EVERYONE, WHETHER YOU'RE MOVING OR NOT. IT'S MY MOTION TO DO 1.95%, WHICH IS THE MEDIAN. I'LL FINISH. I THINK IT IT REPRESENTS A POSITIVE MOVE WITHOUT BEING TOO MUCH OF A BURDEN ON THE COMMUNITY. OKAY. SO WE GOT A MOTION TO GO TO 19750, RIGHT? 19515195 OKAY. WE HAVE A SECOND. 
          OKAY. MOTION DIES. WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE MILLAGE RATE OR WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS. I'LL DO ANOTHER MOTION TO AT LEAST ADOPT THE ROLLBACK, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY A TAX INCREASE, BUT AT LEAST IT GETS US OUT OF THE RED. OKAY. MOTION TO ADOPT THE ROLLBACK I HAVE A SECOND. OKAY. MOTION DIES. I MAKE A MOTION I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE KEEP IT THE SAME. OKAY. MOTION MADE BY. WARD IS BROWN SECOND SECOND BY VICE MAYOR. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. OKAY. MOTION PASSED TO UNANIMOUSLY TO KEEP IT AT THE ROLLBACK RATE. NO NO NO NO THAT'S NOT TRUE. THEY DIDN'T GO TO THE ROLLBACK. THEY LEFT IT WITH THE DEFICIT. THEY THEY LEFT US IN A DEFICIT. AND CHANGE. CAN YOU CLARIFY THE MOTION. THE MOTION WAS THAT WE LEAVE IT THE SAME. ONE POINT. HAS THAT MOTION BEEN UNANIMOUS. UNANIMOUS. NO NOT UNANIMOUS. BUT IT WAS ADOPTED. YOU WANT TO DO YOU MEAN LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. LET'S DO ROLL CALL. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN PALMER. OKAY. YES. VICE MAYOR PEREZ, WE'RE VOTING TO KEEP IT CURRENT AT THE 1.8250. CORRECT. IS THERE A MOTION? YES. YES, YES. OKAY. OR. COUNCILWOMAN. 
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COUNCILWOMAN WATERS. BROWN. YES. COUNCILWOMAN. UNZAGA. NO. MAYOR. DEPAULO. YES. 
          MISS. QUESTION. YES. YOU WANT TO GO? OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENTS. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, SIR? GO AHEAD. 
          YOU'VE ALREADY TAKEN YOUR VOTE. YEAH, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AS WELL. OKAY? YOU JUST ESTABLISHED THE RATE. NOW WE HAVE TO. AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO TAYLOR. OKAY. 
          MISS SIMONS OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YES. ALL RIGHT. HI, EVERYONE. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE THE RESOLUTION NUMBER 006-2025. AND IT'S A RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, ESTABLISHING A PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE FOR THE LEVY OF AD VALOREM TAXES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 THROUGH 2026. SO EVEN IF THE THERE IS NO CHANGE, WE STILL HAVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING THAT. AND THIS IS SPECIFYING THE COMPUTED ROLLBACK RATE, PROVIDING FOR THE DATE, TIME AND PLACE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE AND TENTATIVE BUDGET, AND TO ADOPT A FINAL MILLAGE RATE AND FINAL BUDGET PROVIDING FOR TRANSMITTAL TO THE MARTIN COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER. PROVIDING FOR ADVERTISEMENT OF THE FINAL HEARING TO ADOPT A FINAL MILLAGE RATE AND FINAL BUDGET, AND PROVIDING FOR RECITALS AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. OKAY, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT? MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN PALMER, SECOND BY SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN WATERS BROWN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, MA'AM. 
          UNANIMOUSLY. IT PASSED BY MAJORITY. NOT ANONYMOUSLY. IT PASSED BY MAJORITY. MAJORITY PASSED. MADAM. MAJORITY. OKAY. SO. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES. THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2025 AT 6:00 FOR THE TENTATIVE BUDGET AND THEN SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2025 AT 6 P.M. AND THE MILLAGE RATE CANNOT BE CHANGED UPWARD FROM THE 1.8250. 
          OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS, CAN I MAKE A CLARIFICATION THAT THE VOTE FOR THE RESOLUTION WAS 4 TO 1? CORRECT? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO AM I OKAY AT THIS POINT? GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY. SO WE CAN ALL STAY CLEAR AND RESPECTFUL. I THINK WE NEED A WORKSHOP IN ROBERT'S RULE OF. 
          PARLIAMENTARIAN WHEN, YOU KNOW, STAYING IN ORDER BECAUSE WE NEED WE. THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BECAUSE A LOT OF STUFF IS OUT OF ORDER AND WE NEED TO GET TO THAT PLACE, MAKING SURE WE STAY IN ORDER, MAKING SURE THAT WE STAY TRUE. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS, FIRST OF ALL, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NOTHING. NO. MAYOR. OKAY. DISCUSSION ITEMS. NOTHING. OKAY. ANY 
          [ANNOUNCEMENTS]
ANNOUNCEMENTS. GO AHEAD. I HAVE A FEW. OUR OUR FAMILY MARKET IS TOMORROW AT BIG MOUND PARK AT 10:00 IN THE MORNING. JUST A REMINDER SCHOOL STARTS AUGUST 11TH. SUMMER IS ALMOST OVER FOR US. SO SCHOOL STARTS. JUST BE CAUTIOUS WHEN YOU HIT THE ROAD. ALSO, THE NEXT MEETING I WILL BE ZOOMING IN BECAUSE I WILL BE AT THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITY CONFERENCE. SO I WILL BE ZOOMING IN. THREE OF YOU ARE GONE. WE'RE ALL BUSY. YEAH, YEAH, YOU'RE ALL GONE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. ARE WE GOING TO. WELL, THAT'S THE QUESTION. CAMERA. WE WILL ALL BE AT THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES CONFERENCE. SO WE ALL WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRESENCE HERE EXCEPT FOR THE MAYOR AND MY AND KAREN. MISS COUNCILWOMAN. SO OKAY. SO WE CAN MAINTAIN MEETING. I'M THE LAST I WAS TOLD RHONDA HAD TOLD ME. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS JUST FOR THAT 
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ONE, BUT WHEN WE WERE AWAY ON CONFERENCE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BE ON THE MEETING. WHAT? WHAT'S THE RULE OF THUMB FOR THAT? THE CONFERENCE I, I WASN'T AWARE THAT THERE WAS A CONFLICT. SO THE CONFERENCES WHICH. WEEK. THE COUNCIL. YEAH. BEFORE THE 14 1516. YEAH. BECAUSE I WASN'T AWARE THAT THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW THEY DO THE, THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. I DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHO'S GOING TO GO TO WHAT OR WHO'S GOING TO BE THERE, WHAT DAYS. BUT IF YOU'RE ALL DEFINITELY PLANNING ON NOT BEING HERE ON THAT THURSDAY, THEN WE WON'T HAVE A QUORUM. EVEN IF YOU'RE ON ZOOM. WELL, I I'D HAVE TO GO AND LOOK AT YOUR. RULES AND PROCEDURES TO SEE IF I CAN. 
          I'LL STAY BACK. IF THAT'S ALLOWABLE, I'LL STAY BACK. YOU KNOW. CAN WE SWITCH THE MEETING TO TUESDAY? IT'S ALREADY BEEN PAID FOR YOU. YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO, SINCE THERE'S THREE OF THEM THAT WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE THAT THAT AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY BENEFICIAL. MAYBE WE CAN SWITCH OUR MEETING THAT WEEK TO TUESDAY. WOULD THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADVERTISE. NO NOT FOR NO. I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING LEGAL. 
          NOT THAT I, THAT I KNOW OF, BUT I WILL FIND OUT. OKAY. THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS WHAT ABOUT OUR CONSTITUENTS? THOSE THAT MAY, YOU KNOW, IS THAT GOING TO BE FEASIBLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE HERE THAT TUESDAY NIGHT? I KNOW WE HAVE TO PUT IT OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO RUN INTO CONFLICTS. YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY. OKAY. WELL, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE CALENDARS THAT TUESDAY. JUST GETTING MY LICENSE. SO YOU'D BE TALKING AUGUST THE 12TH. NO, I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN I SAW THAT. SO. SO I THINK THE REAL THE ONLY PROBLEM WE WOULD HAVE IS CAN WE VOTE? BECAUSE IF WE'RE ONLINE, WE'RE PRESENT. WELL, YOU DO VOTE NOW, WHAT I DON'T KNOW IS IF YOU CAN HAVE A QUORUM ON ZOOM, BECAUSE I KNOW IN OTHER ENTITIES THEY DON'T. YOU CAN'T. 
          IN ORDER TO HAVE A QUORUM, YOU NEED PHYSICAL PRESENCE, RIGHT? OKAY. NOW, IF VICE MAYOR PEREZ IS GOING TO BE HERE, THEN I THINK THAT ELIMINATES A LOT OF HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BE HERE? AND IT'S BEEN PAID FOR, RIGHT? WE CAN SAY, HEY, I DID EVERYTHING. SAME THING I DID WHEN I WENT. I CAME DOWN FOR WHEN I WENT TO THE PTA CONFERENCE. YES, MA'AM. I GOT UP EARLY, DROVE BACK, AND I WENT BACK FOR MY TRAINING. YES, MA'AM. DEDICATION. OKAY. OKAY. 
          SO IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO? YEAH, I WILL, I WILL COME BACK AND THEN. OKAY, WE'LL TRY 
          [NEXT REGULAR MEETING (ANNOUNCE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION)]
TO KEEP THE AGENDA. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING HOME AT MIDNIGHT. OKAY. SO OUR MEETING IS GOING TO OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS GOING TO BE ON THE 14TH. CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO A CLOSE.
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