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RIGHT. SAME HERE. OKAY. WE READY? YEAH. LET'S. LET'S ROCK AND ROLL. OKAY. WE CALL THIS
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MEETING TO ORDER. MADAM CLERK, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MAYOR DE PAOLO HERE. VICE MAYOR PEREZ HERE. COUNCILWOMAN PALMER, PRESENT. COUNCILWOMAN WATERS BROWN HERE. COUNCILWOMAN ONZAGA HERE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. WELCOME TO OUR JUNE 12TH VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING.I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU TO SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. BATHROOMS LOCATED THROUGH THE DOOR TO YOUR LEFT. EXIT DOORS ARE LOCATED LEFT AND RIGHT, CLEARLY MARKED WITH EXIT SIGNS.
YOU HAVE THREE OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK TONIGHT. FIRST WILL BE DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SEGMENT, AT WHICH TIME YOU CAN COMMENT ON ANY TOPIC THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. THE SECOND TIME WILL BE DURING THE AGENDA DISCUSSION ITEM, AND THE THIRD OPPORTUNITY WILL BE THERE FOR YOU. AT THE END OF THE MEETING, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES IN EACH SEGMENT TO ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS. TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS. PLEASE ADHERE TO OUR CIVILITY PRACTICE IN THIS AND ALL COUNCIL MEETINGS. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE FILL OUT THE INFORMATION CARDS THAT ARE LOCATED ON THE TABLE BEHIND YOU AND HAND IT TO THE DEPUTY WHO WILL GIVE IT TO THE CLERK. THIS TIME, I'LL ASK YOU TO STAND FOR THE INVOCATION GIVEN BY PASTOR WILLIAMS AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. POLISH OUR KIND FATHER IN HEAVEN. WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE. AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THIS. FIND A BUILDING THAT WE HAVE AND TO HOLD THESE MEETINGS, AND FOR THE HARD WORKING COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE THAT ARE DEDICATING THEIR AND SACRIFICING THEIR TIME AND EFFORTS TO BUILD INDIAN TOWN, WE WERE VERY GRATEFUL. WE HAVE THE FREEDOM HERE TO DISCUSS THINGS AND TO GROW TOGETHER. AND WE ASK TONIGHT THAT WE WILL WE WILL FOCUS ON UNITY, THAT WE ALL SHARE THE LOVE OF INDIAN TOWN AND WANT TO SUPPORT AND HELP IT GROW. WE PRAY THAT THERE WILL BE A COLLABORATION, THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION AND PEACE. AND WE PRAY THIS AND I PRAY THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. AMEN. AMEN. FOR YOUR ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY. MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE
[ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, PULLED ITEMS OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS]
ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, ITEMS, OR MODIFICATIONS? OKAY. SORRY. MY TURN. YES, I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT I HAVE DECIDED TO CHANGE MY PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER. SO MR. COREY WILL NO LONGER BE MY REPRESENTATIVE. I HAVE SOMEONE ELSE IN MIND. DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE WAS. I WAS NOT INFORMED OF THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST, EVEN THOUGH HE WAS, YOU KNOW, I PUT HIM ON PRIOR TO HIM. SO I WOULD LIKE TO. NOMINATE SOMEONE ELSE AS MY PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER. I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT, IF I MAY. MAKE A COMMENT, LET HER GO AHEAD AND SPEAK REAL QUICK AND I CAN ADDRESS SOMETHING. OKAY, SO I DON'T SEE A CONFLICT. I'M SORRY THAT SOME PEOPLE THINK THERE'S A CONFLICT, BUT HE WAS NOT. WE WERE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE FACT THAT HE WAS ON THE BOARD. HE'S AN EXCELLENT ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER. HE HAD NO PERSUASIVE INPUT ON OUR DECISION MAKING. WE ALL THOUGHT IT WAS A WONDERFUL PROGRAM. AND IF WE KEEP HARASSING OUR VOLUNTEERS IN THIS MANNER, WE WILL NOT HAVE ANYBODY THAT IS WILLING TO VOLUNTEER IN THIS COMMUNITY. HE IS A GREAT VOLUNTEER. THERE IS NO REASON FOR HIM TO BE REPLACED. THERE WAS NO CONFLICT. THE BUILDING. THE FACILITY, IF I AM CORRECT, WAS FOR RENT, WAS IT NOT? DID HE GET ANY FAVORITISM IN THE AMOUNT OF RENT THAT HE PAID FOR BEING ON THAT BOARD? NO MA'AM. HAS HE ASKED FOR ANY FAVORITISM FOR HAVING PARTICIPATED ON THAT BOARD? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. I'M LOOKING AT MR. IS THIS THE KIND OF COMMUNITY WE LIVE IN WHERE A PERSON THAT WANTS TO RUN A BUSINESS OR WANTS TO BRING SOMETHING GOOD TO THIS COMMUNITY CANNOT ALSO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY'S QUESTIONING AND ANSWERING AND COMING UP WITH PROJECTS? AND THIS MAKES NO SENSE. I WOULD REALLY LIKE YOU TO RECONSIDER THAT. I DON'T SUPPORT THAT. I THINK WE'RE BEING PRESSURED FROM OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE INFLUENCE. THAT IS UNDUE. PEOPLE NEED TO GET HOBBIES. THIS YOUNG MAN IS AN EXCELLENT VOLUNTEER WITH THE COMMUNITY IN MIND, AND WHAT HE IS BRINGING HERE OFFERS A CHOICE TO THE PARENTS. YOU MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THE TYPE OF PROGRAM[00:05:07]
THAT HE IS GETTING, BUT MY DAUGHTER JUST SPENT FOUR YEARS BECAUSE OF SEVERE ANXIETY IN A PROGRAM JUST LIKE THIS AND WAS ACCEPTED TO CLARK, WHO ONLY ACCEPTS 25 FRESHMEN A YEAR. HAD SHE NOT BEEN IN THIS VERY TYPE OF PROGRAM, SHE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO TO CLARK AND PROBABLY NOT HIGH SCHOOL. SOME KIDS CANNOT HANDLE THE LARGE CLASSROOMS. SOME KIDS CANNOT HANDLE SITTING SEVEN HOURS A DAY. AND THIS IS COMING FROM A HIGH SCHOOL OR A MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHER. I TEACH MIDDLE SCHOOL IN THE SYSTEM. I WISH I COULD TAKE MY KIDS OUT FOR AN HOUR A DAY AND LET THEM PLAY. THIS IS WHAT'S WRONG WITH OUR SYSTEM IS PEOPLE SAYING, OH, IT'S NOT FREE. OF COURSE IT'S NOT FREE. HOW COULD IT BE FREE? THESE NOTHING IS FREE. THESE VOUCHERS ARE GIVEN TO IT'S YOU AS A PARENT THAT HAS THE RIGHT TO MAKE UP YOUR MIND HOW YOUR MONEY IS SPENT AND WHERE YOUR KIDS GO TO SCHOOL. AND IF THEY GET A GED, MAYBE THEY WOULDN'T EVEN GRADUATE IN OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES. THIS YOUNG MAN IS BRINGING TO OUR COMMUNITY THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CHILDREN WHO DO NOT FIT INTO COOKIE CUTTER SOCIETAL NORMS TO DO WHAT THEY LOVE AND LEARN AT THE SAME TIME. I DON'T CARE WHAT KIND OF DIPLOMA THEY GET. I DON'T CARE WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH THE VOUCHER SYSTEM OR NOT. AS AN EDUCATOR AND SOMEONE WHO ALSO CHOSE TO PUT MY DAUGHTER INTO A BETTER SITUATION FOR HER PERSONAL NEEDS, I WANT THE PARENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THOSE CHOICES, AND THIS YOUNG MAN DOES NOT NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM ANYTHING. HE HAD NO UNDUE INFLUENCE ON THIS COUNCIL AND WE ALL AGREED WHAT HE WAS DOING WAS A WONDERFUL THING. I PROTEST HIM BEING REMOVED. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THE ADVISORY BOARD. I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS ENTIRE THING. OKAY. THE ISSUE, AS IT WAS BROUGHT TO ME WAS ABOUT THE ACADEMICS. WE'RE NOT WE WERE NOT. IT WAS ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. AND OUR ATTORNEY HAS A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM. DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN? THANK YOU. MAYOR. LET ME BREAK THIS INTO TWO PARTS. SO YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. AND I RECOGNIZE WE'RE WE'RE KIND OF HOLDING THINGS UP FROM PROCEEDING FROM THE AGENDA. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, WHEN LOOKING AT THE ISSUE OF THIS ITEM BEING ON THE AGENDA, I THINK VICE MAYOR WAS DIRECTED TO I THINK THERE'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE THOUGHT YOU HAD ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CHANGING OUT WHO PEOPLE MIGHT BE ON THE BOARD AND THE MATTER THAT'S ON THE AGENDA. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE MATTER THAT IS ON THE AGENDA WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING THAT'S IN ORDER FOR THE FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER VERY BRIEFLY, AND I'LL GIVE A FULL SUMMARY OF THIS WHEN AND IF WE GET TO THAT ITEM TONIGHT. THIS ITEM RELATES TO WAIVING A POTENTIAL. I WOULD BE CRYSTAL CLEAR ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL CONFLICT UNDER A PARTICULAR PROVISION IN CHAPTER 112 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES. OKAY. IT IS NOT A CONFLICT THAT I THINK EXISTS. AFTER DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL, WITH THE FLORIDA COMMISSION ON ETHICS, TALK THROUGH IT EXTENSIVELY WITH THEM. AND THE CONCLUSION WE CAME TO IS THAT BASED ON THE APPLICATION OF THE STATUTE AT ISSUE, AS WELL AS AN ADDITIONAL STATUTE IN CHAPTER 112, THAT THERE IS NOT ANY PROBLEM AT ALL.HOWEVER, THE LEGISLATURE HAS PROVIDED A VERY SIMPLE WAY TO MAKE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR. THERE'S NOT A SINGULAR ISSUE AT ALL WHEN IT COMES TO ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS IN THIS EXACT CIRCUMSTANCE. LEGISLATURE BASICALLY RECOGNIZES THAT IT'S A LITTLE SILLY IN A LOT OF INSTANCES, NOT ALL, BUT IN A LOT OF INSTANCES WHERE WHERE YOU RUN INTO AN ISSUE LIKE THIS. SO THEY'VE GIVEN A LITTLE PAPERWORK WAY OF SORTING IT OUT, ONLY APPLICABLE TO ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS. IT DOES NOT APPLY TO ELECTED OFFICIALS OR PEOPLE WITH REAL POWER, TO BE QUITE FRANK, BUT IT APPLIES TO ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS. AND THAT'S WHAT IS GOING TO BE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, IF YOU ALL WILL HEAR IT ON THAT AGENDA ITEM IS TO EXERCISE THE EXACT AUTHORITY THE LEGISLATURE DECIDED TO GIVE YOU TO FIND. YEP. THERE IS NO PROBLEM HERE, AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO FORMALLY HAVE A WAIVER. SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU. I WOULD SUGGEST I RECOGNIZE VICE MAYOR. YOU KNOW, YOUR YOUR THOUGHT CONCERNING, YOU KNOW, MAKING A CHANGE IN THAT REALM. I WOULD LOVE TO BE
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ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD WORK UNDER THE RESOLUTION THAT ESTABLISHED THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD, AND WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ONE ON ONE IF YOU'D LIKE TO. BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE MATTER OF SOMEONE WHO WAS SERVING IN THAT POSITION AT THAT TIME, IT WOULD STILL BE RELEVANT FOR THE COUNCIL TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AND SOME DETERMINATION ON THAT. IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU BECAUSE HE IS YOUR PICK. OKAY. I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU. I MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT HE'S AN ASSET TO THAT BOARD. HE IS. IT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY MY CHILD DID ATTEND THE ACADEMY. HE HE DID IT. HE ENJOYED IT. NOW HE WANTS TO GO BACK TO THE TRADITIONAL HIGH SCHOOL. SO YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO SAY, HEY, THERE'S THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST BECAUSE YOUR KID WENT TO THAT SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR IS THAT THEY WHEN I MET CHRIS LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE PROGRAM. WE DID IT. WE TRIED IT. JIMBO SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? I WANT TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL, OKAY? WE ENDED THERE. CHRIS IS, YOU KNOW, HE'S DONE WHAT? HE'S DONE HIS WORK. HE'S PROVEN TRACK RECORD. YEAH. SO I GUESS THAT'S A CONVERSATION. YOU KNOW, WE LET'S TALK ABOUT IT ON THE ON THE AGENDA. YES. BECAUSE. THAT ADVISORY BOARD WAS PUT TOGETHER BECAUSE WE NEED A STRONG SYSTEM.WE GOT HOUSES GOING UP. LOOK AROUND OKAY. THEY GOT TO BE FILLED. AND WOULD YOU MOVE HERE WITHOUT HAVING A PROGRAM FOR YOUR KIDS AND HAVE TO TAKE YOUR KIDS TO STUART OR TO JUPITER TO HAVE TO HAVE A SPORTS PROGRAM? NO, IT'S WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A THOUSAND TIMES. I YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT. AND WHEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S STRONG IN THE SPORTING WORLD, THEN AND HE'S ON THAT THAT BOARD, I THINK WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO RETAIN HIM ON THAT BOARD.
AND VICE MAYOR, WHEN YOU GET TO THAT ITEM, I WOULD BE GLAD TO, FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR THE RECORD, CLARIFY THAT. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AS WELL. AND I DETERMINED THAT I DID NOT BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST WHATSOEVER WITH REGARD TO, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I'D BE GLAD TO DISCUSS THAT AT AT SOME LENGTH WHEN WE GET TO THAT ITEM. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. GETTING BACK ON THE TRACK HERE. WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER
[PUBLIC COMMENT (3 MINUTES EACH)]
MODIFICATIONS. RIGHT. THERE'S NO PROCLAMATIONS NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. ANYBODY HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. YES. MISS LINDA NICCUM WELCOME, MISS NICCUM. FOR THE RECORD, LINDA NICCUM, I'VE LISTENED TO YOUR YOUR DISCUSSIONS ON THIS. I'VE ONLY BEEN MADE AWARE OF THIS PROBABLY IN THE LAST 24 HOURS. I'M REALLY TRYING TO RETIRE, BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I DON'T WANT TO.I DON'T WANT IT TO APPEAR THAT THAT OUR VILLAGE COUNCIL, THAT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS WOULD.
SHOW FAVORITISM TO A NONTRADITIONAL TYPE OF EDUCATION, IT WORKS BEAUTIFULLY FOR SOME. FOR OTHERS, IT DOES NOT. I WE HAVE A NEW HIGH SCHOOL HERE. WE NEED TO BE SUPPORTING IT AND ALL OF ITS DIFFERENT FACETS TO THE EXTREME. AND I FEEL LIKE INTRODUCING SOMETHING THAT FOR THE KIDS ANYWAY, IS GOING TO SOUND LIKE AN EASIER WAY OUT. WE ALL GREW UP THE HARD WAY, AND I THINK WE ARE BETTER FOR IT. IT WASN'T EASY. IT'S STILL NOT EASY, BUT THE OLD WAYS ARE NOT ALWAYS BAD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US SUPPORT OUR TRADITIONAL EDUCATION METHODS.
MAYBE TRY OUT THE OTHER ONES. BUT BUT WE CAN'T. WE CAN'T BE THUMBING OUR NOSE AT AT OUR NEW HIGH SCHOOL. IT'S TOO NEW AND WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GET THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL AND GET EDUCATED, NOT NECESSARILY PLAY BALL, BUT WE NEED TO WE NEED TO GET THEM EDUCATED. THEY THEY NEED TO KNOW THEIR HISTORY. THEY NEED TO KNOW THEIR MATH. AND I DON'T THINK THAT I DON'T THINK THAT 2.5 HOURS ON A, ON A COMPUTER, UNSUPERVISED IS GOING TO PROVIDE THAT AMOUNT OF
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EDUCATION FOR THE KIDS. WE NEED TO STAND STRONG AS PARENTS AND AS GRANDPARENTS AND AS ELDERS, AND SHOW THEM THAT IT'S WORTH THE WAIT. IT'S WORTH THAT STRUGGLE TO SIT THERE BORED FOR SEVEN HOURS A DAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR, IF I IF I MAY REITERATE, THIS PORTION OF PUBLIC COMMENT IS FOR ANY ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. SO IF YOU'VE SUBMITTED A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD FOR GENERIC PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU'RE ABLE TO DO SO. IF YOUR ITEM IS YOUR COMMENT IS DIRECTED TOWARDS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, YOU WOULD NEED TO SPECIFY THAT TWO TIMES BEFORE ANYBODY ELSE.ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES. MISS GLORIA ALDRIDGE. JENNINGS. HELLO EVERYONE. WELCOME. I'M GLORIA ALDRIDGE JENNINGS. WELL, I HAVE A COMMENT FOR THE VILLAGE. THE LAST CLEANUP WE HAD IN BOOKER PARK WAS JUST ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. AND MISS TO MISS. IS IT TARA? KAREN. MISS TARYN WORKED HER BUTT OFF. OH, SHE GOT JUST A LITTLE LEFT. BUT MY WORD TELLS ME WHERE THERE'S UNITY, THERE IS STRENGTH. AND I WAS JUST SO ELATED TO SEE THE BOARD MEMBERS. THEY WERE WEREN'T ALL THERE, BUT THE ONES THAT WERE THERE WAS WORKING, WORKING, WORKING. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS VILLAGE SHOULD BE ABOUT. AND REMEMBER, THE WORD SAYS WHERE THERE IS UNITY, THERE IS STRENGTH. SO I WANT TO APPLAUD THIS VILLAGE BOARD, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHATEVER YOU GUYS ARE FOR A JOB WELL DONE. MISS BARBARA CLOWDUS. MY NAME IS BARBARA CLOWDUS. I'M AN INDIAN TOWN RESIDENT. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST MR. COREY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I LIKE HIM A LOT. I DO THINK THAT IT WAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR SOMEBODY TO SET UP A 300. AND THIS IS NOT THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR THAT. AND ON TOP OF THAT, I FEEL THAT WHAT'S MISSING IS THE FACT THAT YOU'RE NOT PUTTING YOUR MISSION AND YOUR VISION STATEMENT ON THE FRONT OF YOUR AGENDA, BECAUSE THAT'S THE YARDSTICK THAT YOU SHOULD BE JUDGING YOUR DECISIONS BY. BUT IT'S MISSING. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. BUT OF COURSE, IT IT HAS TO BE MORE THAN JUST A SUGGESTION FOR ME. AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. AND I'M NOT ALLOWED TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT, WELL, THIS IS ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING, SO I KNOW, BUT THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ANYTHING BESIDES ANYTHING THAT'S ON THE AGENDA, NOT ON THE AGENDA, NOT ON THE AGENDA. THIS IS ON THE AGENDA. THIS IS ON THE AGENDA. YES. I THOUGHT IT WAS REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA. NO, IT'S STILL ON THE AGENDA. OKAY, THEN I WON'T TALK ABOUT IT. OKAY. BUT I DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU. YOU CAN TELL US HOW GOOD OF A JOB WE DID IN BOOKER PARK THAT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT. AND ON TOP OF THAT. ON TOP OF THAT. I THINK THE BIG ISSUE WITH THIS WAS THAT THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DO SOME RESEARCH IN ADVANCE OF THEIR DECISION. IT WAS KIND OF DROPPED ON THEM AND DROPPED ON THE PUBLIC AS A AND IT'S TRUE, IT WAS NEVER DISCUSSED AT THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING, BUT IT WAS THAT'S KIND OF SITUATION NEEDS TO BE GIVEN TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND I DON'T WANT TO GO THERE. WE NEED TO STOP. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THIS, ABOUT ALL. EVERYTHING. NO, NO MORE DROPPING TOPICS ON THE COUNCIL BEFORE THEY HAVE
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OPPORTUNITY TO RESEARCH IT. OKAY, LISTEN, I'M GOING TO RESPOND TO THIS, OKAY? BECAUSE THIS ISN'T RIGHT. OKAY? WE ARE NOT HERE TO RAISE OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN. HE IS OFFERING SOMETHING THAT MAY BE GOOD FOR SOMEBODY, MAY KEEP SOMEBODY OFF THE STREETS. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE QUESTION IS. THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE A CONFLICT BY HIM BEING ON THE BOARD, THE VILLAGE, LEASING PROPERTY TO HIM, THE PARK? THAT IS THE QUESTION WHETHER HIS PROGRAM IS VIABLE OR NOT. WE'RE NOT EDUCATORS. THERE'S A STATE AND THERE'S A LOCAL GOVERNMENT. AND I'M SURE HE'S GOVERNED BY SOMEBODY. THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE A CONFLICT BETWEEN LEASING LAND? AND BEING ON THE BOARD? AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER TONIGHT, PERIOD. END OF STORY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS PROGRAM. HOW MANY KIDS ARE GOING TO ATTEND IT? THAT'S BETWEEN A PARENT, A CHILD AND HIS BUSINESS. I'M NOT HERE TO TELL YOU HOW TO EDUCATE YOUR CHILD, AND I'M NOT GOING TO.THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. IF YOU WANT TO EDUCATE PEOPLE, YOU WANT TO TELL PEOPLE HOW TO EDUCATE THEIR CHILDREN, THEN YOU NEED TO GO SIGN UP FOR SCHOOL BOARD BECAUSE THIS IS THE WRONG PLACE FOR IT. I'M SORRY. NO, DON'T BE SORRY. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY 100% CORRECT. THAT'S A FACT. SO LET'S MOVE ON, MR. HERNANDEZ. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS VIDA HERNANDEZ. PUBLIC COMMENT I'VE SEEN WHEN I GO THROUGH BOOKER PARK AREA, I'LL PULL IT UP ON MY PHONE. BUT BETWEEN THE INTERSECTION OF PALM BEACH STREET AND SOUTHWEST ONE SEVENTH AVENUE, I SEE THAT THEY MADE A REPAIR IN THE ROAD. BUT RIGHT BEFORE IT, THERE'S JUST A BIG DIP. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A SPEED BUMP OR SOMETHING, OR WE GOT TO CALL BACK THE CONTRACTOR THAT DID THAT REPAIR. IT'S JUST A REALLY BIG DIP. AND THERE'S OTHER VARIOUS AREAS IN BOOKER PARK THAT I'M GUESSING THE SAME CONTRACTOR DID. I WAS WONDERING IF WE CAN GET A FOLLOW UP, IF THEY GOT TO COME BACK AND FIX THAT, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THE VILLAGE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF NOW? AND THAT'S ALL FOR MY PUBLIC COMMENT. STAFF CAN ADDRESS THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT SIR. THAT'S IT. OKAY.
[COMMENTS BY VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS]
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS? NONE. COMMENTS BY VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS.COUNCILWOMAN PALMER? NO, I'M GOING TO START THIS WAY. I'M GOING TO GO FROM THE RIGHT TO THE LEFT. ALL RIGHT. FIRST I WANT TO SAY HELLO AND GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE. I'M HOPING EVERYONE IS HAVING A GREAT NIGHT TONIGHT AND HAVE HAD A GREAT DAY. IT IS SUMMERTIME, SO I WANT TO CAUTION EVERYBODY TO BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL. STAY HYDRATED. OKAY. WATCH OVER THE BABIES BECAUSE WE'RE HOT OUT THERE. AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. Y'ALL NOT TWINS. ARE YOU OKAY? I'M YOUR CHILDREN. OH, Y'ALL SO CUTE. SO? SO I'M GLAD THE KIDS ARE HERE. I BROUGHT MY GRANDSON. SO Y'ALL PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE Y'ALL GOING TO BE HERE ONE DAY AND BEYOND. OKAY? SO PAY A GOOD ATTENTION. ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I'M SO. I AM SO PLEASINGLY GLAD TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE. THERE'S A PASTOR THAT USED TO SAY I'M DELICIOUSLY PROUD TO SEE. SO IMMA SAY I'M DELICIOUSLY PROUD TO SEE EVERYBODY. SO YOU ALL HAVE A WONDERFUL NIGHT TONIGHT AND LET'S JUST GET ON WITH THE BUSINESS, RIGHT? ALRIGHT, OKAY.
COUNCILWOMAN WATERS BROWN, YOU GOT ANYTHING? NO. YOU FORGOT. OH, THE VICE MAYOR. OKAY. YEAH, BUT I'M HAPPY YOU WANT TO GET TO IT. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. JUST A REMINDER, IT IS SUMMERTIME AND ARE A LOT OF KIDDOS OUT ON THEIR ON THEIR BICYCLES E-SCOOTER. NOW, DO WE HAVE A POLICY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS? E-SCOOTERS. NO. THEY'RE REGULATED BY STATE. DO THEY HAVE TO BE LIKE LICENSED? I'M JUST OKAY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF THEM POPPING UP LATELY.
YEAH, E-SCOOTERS THAT ARE THAT NOT NOT AN E-BIKE BUT JUST AN E-BIKE. SORRY. E-BIKE. E-BIKE.
YEAH. AND NOT RENTAL E-BIKES. NO. LIKE JUST SOMEBODY BOUGHT AN E-BIKE AND THEY'RE DRIVING AROUND. YEAH. I MEAN DO WE I, I THINK THEY'RE CLASSIFIED AS A BIKE UNDER I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE HELMETS. YEAH. WE. OH WOW. WELL ANY, ANY COUNTY AND CITY OR VILLAGE IN THE STATE OUR HANDS ARE TIED ON MOST NOT ALL MOST TRAFFIC MATTERS. AND SO WHEN YOU GET TO E-BIKES IT'S BASICALLY TO THE STATE JUST LIKE BIKES. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ASK. THANK YOU. OKAY. ARE YOU
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READY? OH YEAH. I'M GOOD I WANT TO SAY GOOD AFTERNOON. I ATTENDED A WORKSHOP. AN EMAIL WORKSHOP WHICH COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE TO ATTEND. AND THERE ARE TWO OF THEM. I AM PLEASANTLY PLEASED THAT I WENT TO THE ONE THAT WE HAD IN BOCA RATON LAST WEEK. I LEARNED A LOT. I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE SLITHER IN THE BLIND OPEN NOW TO SEE WHAT I GOT MYSELF INTO. SO I HAD FUN AND I AND I LEARNED A LOT. SO I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL AND THE VILLAGE FOR ALLOWING ME TO ATTEND. WE HAVE A SECOND ONE COMING UP OCTOBER 24TH THROUGH THE 25TH. IT'S IMO TWO, IT'S GOING TO BE HELD IN ORLANDO AND I WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND THAT. WE HAD A CLEANUP, WHICH MISS ALDRIDGE REFERRED TO JENNINGS ON MAY 24TH. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU THE BREAKDOWN QUICKLY OF WHAT WE COLLECTED WHILE IN BOCA PARK. KEEP IN MIND THE NEXT CLEANUP IS FOR UPTOWN, DOWNTOWN, UPTOWN SEPTEMBER 27TH, WHICH IS A SATURDAY. WE WILL DO THIS SIDE OF THE TRACK. AT THAT TIME, WE HAD 1,200 POUNDS OF HAZMAT HAZMAT MATERIAL WE HAD FOR THE CLAM TRUCK, 21.87 TONS. THE REAR TRUCKS, WE HAD 5.65 TONS FOR THE ROLL-OFF TRASH. WE HAD 4.51 TONS AND 1.8 TONS OF TIRES FOR A COLLECTION OF 33.11 TONS OF TRASH, DEBRIS, TIRES, GARBAGE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO GET RID OF. I AM SO PROUD OF BOCA PARK FOR THE HELP THAT THEY PROVIDED, PULLING ALL THE THINGS OUT THAT THEY HAD TO PULL OUT AND PUT IT OUT ON THE STREET SO WE COULD PICK IT UP. I AM AWESOMELY SUPER PROUD OF THE STAFF OF THE VILLAGE. EVERYBODY THAT WAS THERE WORKED LIKE IT WAS THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT WAS A BEAUTIFUL SIGHT TO SEE. WE JUST NOW HAVE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. WHICH BRINGS ME TO ANOTHER SUBJECT, BUT I'LL LEAVE IT ON FOR ANOTHER DAY. SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE NEXT CLEANUP IS SEPTEMBER 27TH AND IT'S DOWNTOWN. IT WILL BEGIN AT 7:00 RATHER THAN 630. THE TIME WOULD HAVE CHANGED. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY PROPOSE A MOTION THAT WE SET UP OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING. WE HAD ONE IN MARCH. WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE SO THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN TALK AND DISCUSS WITH THE VILLAGE MEMBERS INVOLVED. IF WE CAN GO FOR AUGUST 2025, I WOULD LIKE A MOTION THAT WE SET UP A STRATEGIC PLANNING. BUT NO, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT WITH ANOTHER FACILITATOR. THAT'S FINE. SO CAN WE HAVE A CAN WE DO A MOTION OR WHATEVER TO YOU? CAN YOU CAN DO IT AS LONG AS WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT WE DON'T I DON'T THINK WE NEED A MOTION TO SET UP TO DIRECT STAFF TO SET SOMETHING UP. YEAH WE DO. WE NEED A MOTION. YEAH. IF EVERY IF EVERYONE'S IN AGREEANCE WITH WHAT SHE'S ASKING TO DO, WE'LL TAKE THAT AS DIRECTION AND MAKE IT SO. YEAH. IS EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT HOW YOU DO THAT WITHOUT A. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE SET IT UP FOR MARCH I'M SORRY. AUGUST 2025. WHATEVER SATURDAY WE LIKE. THERE'S FIVE OF THEM. OKAY. REACH OUT INDIVIDUALLY TO US AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT DATE IS GOOD AND SET IT UP. THE NEXT ONE. I'M GOING TO READ THIS SO I DON'T SKIP OVER IT. SKIP OVER SOME OF THE STUFF THAT I'D LIKE TO SAY. AS A MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL, WE HAVE ELECTED TO SERVE THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE ENTIRE VILLAGE, NOT JUST IN POLICY, BUT IN PRACTICE. THAT MEANS ENSURING THAT MUNICIPAL SERVICES ARE TRULY ACCESSIBLE TO PUBLIC, THAT WE REPRESENT THE VILLAGE COUNCIL AND STAFF ARE IN PLACE AS TOOLS TO HELP SERVE THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST. JUST BECAUSE WE CAN DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULD. RIGHT NOW, CLOSING ALL SERVICES AT 430 EACH DAY CREATES A BARRIER FOR MANY WORKING RESIDENTS WHO CANNOT LEAVE THEIR JOBS EARLY TO ACCESS BASIC LOCAL SERVICES. THIS DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS THE WORKING FAMILIES, HOURLY EMPLOYEES AND THOSE WITH INFLEXIBLE SCHEDULES, EXTENDING THE HOURS TO FIVE JUST TWO DAYS A WEEK IS A MODEST ADJUSTMENT THAT WILL MAKE A MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE. IT REFLECTS OUR COMMUNITY COMMITMENT TO EQUALITY, BUILDING TRUST AND BEING RESPONSIVE TO ORDINARY WORKING FAMILIES, PRINCIPLES THAT CONSTITUENTS EXPECT AND THEY ALSO DESERVE. FOR THE RECORD, I RESPECT THE MANAGER'S ACTIONS AND I AM NOT MICROMANAGING. BUT ALSO I HAVE[00:30:07]
BEEN HEARING CONCERNS AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS THEM. I RESPECTFULLY, RESPECTFULLY MAKE A MOTION REQUESTING THAT THE VILLAGE COUNCIL RECONSIDER THE CURRENT POLICY OF CLOSING MUNICIPAL SERVICES AT 430 DAILY BY INSTRUCTING THE VILLAGE MANAGER TO REVISIT THIS ISSUE WITHIN TWO MONTHS, AND PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL A MORE CREATIVE WAY IN ADDRESSING THE OVERTIME THAT CAUSED THIS DECISION. MANY WORKING RESIDENTS ARE UNABLE TO ACCESS SERVICES DURING THESE HOURS, CREATING AN UNNECESSARY BARRIER TO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND SUPPORT. EXTENDING HOURS TO 5 P.M. JUST TWO DAYS A WEEK, OR KEEPING THE ORIGINAL HOURS AND STAGGERING THE STAFF WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE ACCESS WITH MINIMAL, IF ANY COSTS. MINIMAL COSTS, HIGH IMPACT THIS SMALL ADJUSTMENT REFLECTS OUR SHARED COMMITMENT TO FAIRNESS, ACCESSIBILITY AND RESPONSIVE GOVERNANCE. THE VERY PRINCIPLE THIS COUNCIL WAS ELECTED TO UPHOLD. I URGE AT LEAST TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SUPPORT THE REASONABLE AND CONSTITUENT FOCUSED OPERATIONAL PRACTICE.OKAY, ANYBODY ELSE? I HAVE A COMMENT ON ON THAT I WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT JUST A DISCUSSION? I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. A LOT OF PEOPLE IT'S HARD FOR ME. I GET OFF AT 4:00. I CAN'T GET HERE TILL FOUR AT 430 BEFORE 430. WHAT ABOUT ONE NIGHT WHERE THEY OPEN LATER AND STAY EVEN TILL 6:00 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? JUST TELL ME. WHEN WE HIRE EMPLOYEES, WE GIVE THEM THEIR EXPECTED HOURS OF WORK, AND THEY MAKE PERSONAL DECISION WHETHER OR NOT THOSE HOURS FIT INTO THEIR SCHEDULE, WHETHER THEY NEED TO PICK UP THEIR CHILDREN, MAYBE HAVE A PARENT, WHATEVER THE SITUATION IS. AND I THINK THAT IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT FAIRNESS AND HOW YOU'RE TREATING PEOPLE, I OWE IT TO OUR EMPLOYEES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO MODIFY THOSE HOURS WHEN THEY'VE COME TO WORK FOR A JOB BASED ON INFORMATION THEY WERE PROVIDED AT THAT TIME. THERE'S YOU CAN PAY YOUR BILL ONLINE TEXT TO PAY AUTO PAY, CALL THE TOLL FREE NUMBER TO PAY BY PHONE. THERE'S A QR CODE ON YOUR BILL YOU CAN PAY OR YOU CAN PHYSICALLY COME IN. HERE WE HAVE A DROP BOX AND MAKE YOUR PAYMENTS. I MEAN, SO FOR US, I THINK IMPOSING ADDITIONAL TIME THAT THESE EMPLOYEES, WE HAVE A NEW SYSTEM AND THE EMPLOYEES NEED TO CASH OUT THEIR DRAWERS AND THEY NEED A GOOD 30 MINUTES TO DO THAT. I COULD HEAR THEM IN HERE 530, SOMETIMES 5:45, SOMETIMES 6:00 BEFORE THEY CAN ACTUALLY CASH OUT THEIR DRAWERS AND GO HOME.
AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S FAIR. AND I'VE NOT HAD ONE COMPLAINT. OKAY. SO THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE OFFICE WORK FOR THE VILLAGE. RIGHT? SO I'M AN EMPLOYEE AS WELL. AND I, I RESPECT THE HOURS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK. I THINK THAT'S GREAT. WHY DON'T WE STAGGER THE TIME? THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET OFF ANY LATER. BUT WE'RE LOCKING THE DOORS AT 430, WHICH MEANS NO ONE CAN COME IN AND I CAN COUNT MY DRAWER. IF THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO PEOPLE AT A WINDOW, ONE CAN GO IN A PRIVATE ROOM, COUNT THEIR DRAWERS. NOT OUT IN PUBLIC WITH THE PLEXIGLAS. GO COUNT YOUR MONEY, YOUR BANK OUT. ALLOW THE OTHER PERSON TO DO THE SAME WHEN YOU FINISH. WHEN SOMEONE IF SOMEONE COMES IN AT 430 OR AFTER 430, TAKE THAT MONEY. PUT IT IN. PUT IT IN A SAFE, PUT IT SOMEWHERE, COUNT IT. PUT IT IN THE SAFE. IT'S NOT IN ELONGATING THEIR HOURS. BUT MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK UP FRONT, THEY USUALLY LIVE IN THE VILLAGE, DON'T THEY? DON'T THEY LIVE HERE. STAGGER THE HOURS, MAKE IT WORK FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. NOT TWO OR 3 OR 4 EMPLOYEES. AND I DON'T SAY THEY DON'T WORK HARD. I'M NOT JUST SAYING JUST EMPLOYEES. BUT WE WERE HIRED FOR THE ENTIRE VILLAGE, NOT FOR TWO, 3 OR 4 PEOPLE. IF WE STAGGER THE SHIFT, I'M NOT SURE WHY IT WON'T WORK. I DON'T KNOW, MIKE. YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? MR. FLORIO IS THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY ASKED TO HAVE THE HOURS ADJUSTED. THE ISSUE THAT WE RUN INTO. AND JUST TO KIND OF CLARIFY, WHEN WE TOOK OVER UTILITY BILLING, WE BROUGHT UTILITY BILLING IN-HOUSE. WE HAD A THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR THAT DID ALL THE WORK AT A CHAMPAIGN, ILLINOIS, THE TYLER SYSTEM THAT WE'RE RUNNING. WE DO ALL OF THE INTERNAL UPDATES AND PROCESSES. SO WHEN WE CLOSE OUT AT DAY END, IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, BALANCING DRAWS AND CASHING DRAWS. IT'S RUNNING SEVERAL JOBS, PROCESSING MERCHANT SERVICE, UPDATING CUSTOMER RECORDS. SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T GO SMOOTHLY. WE HAVE TO SYNCHRONIZE CERTAIN THINGS OR RERUN A BATCH. WE'VE HAD A FEW GLITCHES NOW AND THEN. IT'S A SOLID HALF AN HOUR
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JOB TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT ON A DAILY BASIS. YOU KNOW, STAGGERING SCHEDULES AND LEAVING THE DOOR OPEN TILL FIVE LIKE WE WERE BEFORE. WE COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF HERE BY, YOU KNOW, 5:00 THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE HERE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T UPDATE ACCOUNTS, CAN'T UPDATE RECORDS, ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE UNTIL ALL THE BATCHES ARE CLOSED AND THE OVERNIGHT PROCESS IS RUN, WHICH IS WHAT WE START THERE, YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE DID THAT. AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE DO THIS ESPECIALLY DURING CERTAIN TIMES OF THE MONTH. IT'S VERY CRITICAL THAT WE DO IT TIMELY AND WE DO IT THAT DAY BECAUSE OF PENDING LATE FEES AND DISCONNECTS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT GOT PAID GETS, YOU KNOW, GETS IN THE SYSTEM AS OF, YOU KNOW, THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS THERE. AND AGAIN, JUST IT JUST IT TAKES TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO LEAVING CLOSING AT 5:00, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE BACK TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE, WHERE WE WILL HAVE SOMEONE HERE TILL 530 EVERY DAY. PLUS IF THAT'S WHAT THE DIRECTION IS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS, AS MANAGER SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE THINGS FOR STAFF. AND WE DO HAVE MANY, MANY WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO PAY. YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT I THINK THAT ARE AFFECTED ARE THE CASH PAYERS AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S THE CUSTOMER BASE THAT WE'RE CATERING TO IN THAT LAST HALF AN HOUR OF THE DAY, THE REST OF THE DAY, THE 23.5 HOURS, THE REST OF THE DAY IS CAN BE HANDLED BY OTHER MEANS. BUT AGAIN, I DEFER TO YOU ALL. THEY'RE THE ONES AT 430. THE CASH PAYERS, THEY'RE STILL WORKING. THEY'RE WORKING WHEN THE BUILDING'S CLOSED AND THEY'RE WORKING WHEN THE BUILDING CLOSES AGAIN. SO THEY THEY HAVE PEOPLE WHO PAY JUST CASH, NOT BECAUSE SOME JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ACCOUNTS, OTHERS DON'T READ AND OR THEY NEED HELP OR FOR WHATEVER OTHER REASON. SO ALL THE OTHER MECHANISMS THAT WE HAVE DOESN'T WORK FOR EVERYBODY. AND THEY COULDN'T GET HERE BY 430 ANYWAY. THEY'RE WORKING.WE'RE WORKING COMMUNITY. SURE, SURE. YEAH, YEAH. ALL RIGHT. IS THE STAFF FULL? YOU'RE NOT HIRING ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM WITH. I ASKED HOW MANY PEOPLE COME IN AFTER 430, I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, THE OTHER ISSUE THAT WE HAD OR WE TALKED ABOUT WITH MR. NOLAN IS SOMEONE COMES IN TEN MINUTES TO FIVE TO PAY THEIR BILL BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR SERVICES TURNED OFF. AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO SEND SOMEBODY FOR OVERTIME AGAIN TO GO OVER THERE AND RECONNECT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET THEY DIDN'T PAY FOR THEIR BILL WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE. I MEAN, WE GIVE THEM ALMOST THREE WEEKS TO, TO I DON'T KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT SOME PEOPLE WORK, SOME PEOPLE GET PAID ON A CHECK BASIS. WHEN I GET MY CHECK, I WILL PAY. I'M NOT SAYING EVERYBODY'S THAT WAY. I'M NOT SAYING A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE ARE THAT WAY. BUT IF I WERE THAT ONE PERSON THAT CAME IN AT 445 FOR ME, I AM SIGNIFICANT. I BROKE MY NECK TO GET HERE BY 445. IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY, YOU KNOW, OF PUTTING A DROP BOX THERE, LIKE LIKE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN I HAD MY COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, I'D STUFF MY, MY LITTLE BANK BAG AND I'D TAKE IT TO THE BANK AND I OPEN UP THE THING AND I PUT IT IN AND IT WOULD GO IN AND IT WAS SECURE. IS THERE ANY WAY OF GETTING A DROP BOX THAT PEOPLE CAN COME AND JUST PUT THEIR ENVELOPE IN WITH THE MONEY, AND IN THE MORNING WE CAN GET IT? I WOULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY REALIZES THIS. THE COUNCIL, THE PUBLIC, WE'RE SHORT $190,000 THIS YEAR THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE UP FOR. AND, YOU KNOW, OVERTIME TIME AND A HALF, IT ADDS UP. NOW THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T AVOID, LIKE PUBLIC WORKS, THAT THEY GET CALLED OUT, THEY'RE GETTING PAID OVERTIME. BUT THE THINGS THAT WE CAN I MEAN, WE HAVE A VILLAGE MANAGER.
SHE'S MANAGING. SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE'S DOING AND SHE'S MANAGING. SHE DIDN'T CUT BACK THE HOURS BECAUSE WE JUST WANT TO CUT BACK THE HOURS. THEY CUT BACK THE HOURS BECAUSE OF THE OVERTIME.
SO IF WE COULD GET A BOX THAT THEY CAN PUT EVEN LIKE A MAILBOX, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY CAN PUT THEIR BILL IN THEIR DEPOSIT IN AND WE CAN COME IN IN THE MORNING AND OPEN THAT UP AND BRING IT IN AND PROCESS THEIR PAYMENT. THEN THAT SHOULD RESOLVE THE ISSUE. MAYOR DEPAOLO, I SAID IN MY STATEMENT, THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE VILLAGE MANAGER. IT'S NOT PERSONALLY TOWARD HER. I'M SAYING WE NEED TO SERVICE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY THE BEST THAT WE CAN. I
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UNDERSTAND WHY SHE MADE THE DECISION TO DO THAT. I RESPECT THAT DECISION, BUT THERE IS A BETTER WAY. SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT BETTER WAY IS. SO IF WE'RE NOT HIRING, WE'RE DONE HIRING FOR THAT DEPARTMENT. YEAH. SO NOBODY ELSE IS COMING ON. HERE'S THE DEAL. IF THEY CAN'T GET IN HERE TO PAY THEIR BILL NOW, YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE THEM A LATE FEE. NOW YOU'RE GOING TO PAY TO CHASE THE LATE FEE. THEN WHAT WE DO I KNOW IT'S MONEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I KNOW IT'S 30 MINUTES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT A VILLAGE, OKAY? AND THAT'S WHY I'M SUGGESTING TO PUT, LIKE, A MAILBOX OUT THERE SO THEY CAN COME BY AT 12:00 AT MIDNIGHT, AND THEY CAN GO DROP OFF THEIR, THEIR PAYMENT AND IT CAN BE PROCESSED IN THE MORNING.I MEAN, WOULD YOU DROP CASH IN THE MAILBOX? WELL, PEOPLE DO EVERY DAY. PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE. WE GOT A GOOD LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY HERE. PUT A CAMERA ON IT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WAS ASKING FOR A VIABLE OPTION, BUT THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I MEAN. DROP IT OFF AT THE POST OFFICE. JUST DROP IT IN A POST OFFICE BOX. I MEAN, THERE'S A WE GOT TONS OF WAYS OF PAYING A BILL. I DON'T SEE WHY WE HAVE TO KEEP PEOPLE HERE LATER THAN THEY HAVE TO BE AND PAY THEM OVERTIME TO PROCESS A DOZEN BILLS. WE CAN PUT A MAILBOX OUTSIDE AND THEY CAN DROP IT OFF. THEY CAN PUT A CHECK IN THE MAILBOX. NOBODY'S GOING TO TOUCH IT. NOBODY'S GOING TO. I DON'T KNOW WHY EITHER. WE JUST HAVE TO BECOME CREATIVE. SO I MADE A MOTION. IF I DON'T GET A SECOND, IT'S DEAD.
SO DO WHATEVER I SECOND IT. I THINK WE NEED TO CATER TO OUR WORKING PEOPLE. IS THERE ANY WAY? OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS TO SEE WHO COMES IN BETWEEN THE 430 TO 5. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN SEE ON OUR MONTHLY BASIS? OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU'RE CUT OFF IS WHAT THE 20TH? OBVIOUSLY THE 19TH IS YOUR. OKAY. LET ME YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY GOT HIT WITH THE FIRST WAVE OF LATE FEES. OBVIOUSLY THAT DAY IS GOING TO BE BUSIER THAN YOUR AVERAGE DAY.
JUST TO JUST TO COMPARE. OKAY. WE KNOW IS IT DOABLE. YOU KNOW LIKE HEY, HAVE WE GIVEN ENOUGH NOTICE? YOU KNOW, I ONLY FOUND OUT THAT THE TIMES CHANGED VIA SOCIAL MEDIA. AND, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS ENOUGH NOTICE TO A RESIDENTS, HEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE AND HEY, AM I NOT AFFECT NO ONE? BUT WE DO NEED TO CATER TO THE WORKING PEOPLE WHO DO PAY BILLS. THEY MAY HAVE A PROBLEM. CAN WE REITERATE WHAT THE MOTION WAS? YOU WENT THROUGH A I NEED FOR AN EXACT YES. OR YOU WANT TO. EXACTLY. YOU HAD A COUPLE OPTIONS. SO I NEED TO KNOW. NOW THE MOTION REALLY WAS SO THAT THE VILLAGE MANAGER WOULD COME REVISIT THE ISSUE WITHIN TWO MONTHS. PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL A CREATIVE WAY IN ADDRESSING THE OVERTIME THAT CAUSED THE DECISION. I WAS JUST GIVING OPTIONS OF A WAY THAT WE CAN DO IT. YES. GOT A MOTION? A SECOND MOTION FOR OPTIONS MOTION OPTION. SO THE MOTION IS TO FOR THE MANAGER TO REVISIT WITHIN TWO MONTHS, BRING BACK DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO BE CREATIVE ON THE OVERTIME SO THAT WE CAN CLOSE AT 5:00 RATHER THAN 430. OKAY, SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? OPPOSE. YOU CAN GO. OH, OKAY. PASS UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. THERE'S A QUESTION ON. YEAH I DO HAVE A QUESTION. AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND ON BOTH SIDES OKAY. AND I, I AGREE WITH YOU MAYOR PAULO THERE YOU KNOW AND COUNCILWOMAN BROWN YOU HAD SAID ABOUT YOU WOULDN'T PUT CASH IN COMING FROM DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. THEY DO PUT THEIR MONEY IN IN THEIR LITTLE ENVELOPE OR WHATEVER. AND THEY DO STICK IT IN THERE. I JUST THINK THAT A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE CREATE, WE CAN'T SAY WHAT THE PEOPLE WON'T DO IF THEY'RE GIVEN, IF THEY'RE GIVEN OPTIONS, THEY'LL TAKE THE OPTIONS. NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH NOTICE TO, YOU KNOW, THAT TIME HAD CHANGED AND WHATEVER AS WHAT NOW THESE PEOPLE, WELL, AT LEAST SOME OF THEM ARE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AS WELL. I KNOW LARONDA IS SHE SHE'S A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. SO WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE, LET'S REMEMBER THAT OUR EMPLOYEES ARE PEOPLE TOO. AND THEY HAVE HOMES AND FAMILY MEMBERS. SO AND THEN YOU SAID THAT WE'RE $190,000. SO WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT OVERTIME. WHATEVER THE DECISION IS, IT HAS TO BE WHAT'S CONDUCIVE FOR ALL. EVERYBODY IN
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HERE GOT FAMILIES, EVERYBODY IN HERE. SO WHATEVER THE OPTIONS ARE, LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS BUILT INTO IT. YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? JUST MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY STAFF. NOW THE. THE MIX. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT MIKE SAID, THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO THE STAGGERING. LET'S, LET'S LET'S DO ALL OF THAT. LET'S LOOK INTO EVERY OPTION. AND AT THE END OF IT ALL, LET'S MAKE SURE OUR STAFF IS TAKEN CARE OF. WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE ANY STAFF.WE JUST CAN'T. ESPECIALLY WE HAVE BILINGUAL STAFF. WE NEED OUR BILINGUAL STAFF. WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE OUR MANAGER EITHER. SO LET'S BE VERY CAUTIOUS OF WHAT WE SAY AND HOW WE DO THINGS, BECAUSE WE WANT EVERYBODY TO WALK OUT OF HERE AND SAY, OKAY, WE GOT IT. YOU KNOW, I STILL THINK I STILL THINK A DROPBOX AND WE'RE, WE'RE WE ARE GOING TO BE REMODELING THIS BUILDING. MAYBE THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED INTO THE REMODEL WHERE THEY PUT, PUT A DROP BOX IN SO PEOPLE CAN COME PUT THEIR CHECKS IN THERE, PUT THEIR, THEIR ENVELOPE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY CAN COME AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING AND DROP IT OFF. THEY WANT, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT'S MORE CONVENIENT THAN THAT? ONE SOLUTION MIGHT BE LIKE THE POST OFFICE WHERE YOU CAN COME IN AND THEN THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DROP BOX THAT GOES DIRECTLY INTO A LOCKED OFFICE RATHER THAN AN OUTDOOR BOX OR SOMETHING THAT'S VULNERABLE, LIKE THE POST OFFICE. YOU CAN GO IN THERE ANYTIME YOU WANT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S DEFINITELY DOABLE, SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK INTO. WE DO OFFER AN AWFUL LOT OF OPTIONS. I THINK IT'S AMAZING THE NUMBER OF OPTIONS. I DIDN'T KNOW THEY HAD THAT MANY OPTIONS. AND IF THE DROP BOX IS NOT A POPULAR IDEA, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, A LATE NIGHT. A LOT OF PLACES DO. ONE LATE EVENING. YOU KNOW? ANYWAY, I THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO BE SINCE IT IS A CONCERN. IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING WE LOOK INTO. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND WHEN PEOPLE THINK OF OVERTIME AND TIME AND A HALF. SO YOU'RE MAKING $10 AN HOUR, LET'S SAY. SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE MAKING 15. BUT REALLY WHAT IT COSTS ANYBODY A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, ANYBODY. WHEN YOU START ADDING THOSE BENEFITS IN, THAT'S PART OF IT TOO. EVERYTHING STARTS TO INCREASE. SO IT'S NOT JUST THE EXTRA $5 FOR THE HOUR. IT'S A LOT MORE THAN THAT. AND THEN WHEN YOU MULTIPLY IT BY DAYS, WEEKS, MONTHS AND EMPLOYEES, IT GETS TO BE EXPENSIVE. IN A TIME WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. OKAY, WE
[COMMENTS BY VILLAGE MANAGER]
NEED TO MOVE ON. COMMENTS BY VILLAGE MANAGER I ONLY HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT. I WAS ASKED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE POOL AT THE YMCA IS NOW OPEN MONDAY, WEDNESDAYS AND FRIDAYS FROM 1 TO 5 FOR $10 PER PERSON. AND I WANT TO THANK ALL THE STAFF THAT DID HELP ON THAT CLEANUP BECAUSE WE ALL WORKED OUR REAR ENDS OFF AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DO IT AS VOLUNTEERS. WHAT WAS WHAT WERE THE HOURS FOR THE YMCA? 1 TO 5 MONDAY, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, LET'S GET ON TO[1) APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
THE AGENDA. WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF AGENDA. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE AGENDA. I SECOND MOTION MADE BY MISS ERNESTINE PALMER. SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN ONSLAUGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.[2) APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]
OKAY. APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. I APPROVE THAT WE I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA SECOND. OKAY. MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN PALMER. SECOND, BY COUNCILWOMAN ONSLAUGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. LET'S GO. WE'RE FINALLY GETTING THERE. OKAY.[3) Approval of Roadway Striping and Marking Project with M&M Asphalt, LLC. d/b/a All County Paving in the amount of $34,824.00.]
OKAY, I GUESS THIS ONE'S YOU, PAT. APPROVAL OF ROAD STRIPING FOR THE RECORD, PAT NOLAN. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, THIS AGENDA ITEM IS A FOLLOW UP FROM PREVIOUS ITEMS THAT WE DID. WE HAD A BUDGET OF $270,000 TO STRIPE SOME OF THE ROADS IN THE VILLAGE AND MAKE ASPHALT REPAIRS. WE HAVE MONEY LEFT IN THE BUDGET. SO WE WENT OUT AND REEVALUATED AGAIN. AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS STRIPE, OSCEOLA 151ST, 169TH OVER BY THE SCHOOL AND THEN OVER BY BIG MOUND PARK. THE REASON FOR THE STRIPING IS TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF OUR STREETS. SO THE COST OF THIS IS $34,824, WHICH WAS IT'S PART OF THE BUDGET THAT WE BUDGETED FOR THIS YEAR. AND THEN THAT WOULD BE IT FOR STRIPING AND ASPHALT WORK. FOR THIS YEAR. WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THE SAME $270,000.FOR NEXT YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING. AND THEN HOPEFULLY YEAR THREE, WE'LL DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPREHENSIVE. OKAY, CAN I MAKE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT
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WE ACCEPT IT. SECOND COMMENTS BY PUBLIC COMMENT. NO SIR. OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT. SECOND MOTION WAS MADE BY MORRIS BROWN. WATERS BROWN, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN ONSLAUGHT. ALL RIGHT, I GOT YOU. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. I'M. YOU GUYS ARE MAKING ME LOSE IT TONIGHT. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THAT'S UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND, MAYOR, THIS ITEM IN THE NEXT TWO ARE ALL QUASI JUDICIAL. SO I'VE GOT LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING MATTER TO DEAL WITH[4) APPLICATION NO. PLT-24-079 A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THE SEMINOLE CROSSING PLAT, LOCATED NORTH OF LINCOLN STREET AND EAST OF SW COMMERCE PARK DRIVE, INDIANTOWN, ON PARCELS TOTALING 4.36-ACRES. ]
RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING. IT'S ALL YOURS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. SO, COUNCIL MEMBERS, GOOD EVENING. THIS NEXT ITEM IS A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER AS WELL AS THE NEXT TWO. AFTER THAT, ITEMS FOUR, FIVE AND SIX. SO I WOULD ASK TO ANYONE HERE IN THE PUBLIC, ANYONE, INCLUDING THE APPLICANT, ANY STAFF OR OTHER WITNESSES OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD PLAN TO SPEAK TO ANY OF THESE ITEMS. I'D ASK YOU TO VERY QUICKLY STAND AND BE SWORN BY THE CLERK. WOULD YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL YOU THAT I'M SORRY? DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS ITEM, AND AS I MENTIONED, THE NEXT TWO AFTER THAT ARE ALL QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE. AS YOU WILL RECALL, THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO FOLLOW A CERTAIN PROCEDURE REQUIREMENTS AND DECISIONS HAVE TO BE BASED ON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. AND THE THAT IS EVIDENCE THAT'S PRESENTED HERE IN THE MEETING, IN THE AGENDA PACKET AND THE LAW THAT'S BEFORE YOU, OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SO ON. PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND WHEN YOU ARE DISCUSSING AND EVALUATING. MADAM CLERK HAS THIS ITEM, AND THIS ITEM IS THE REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THE SEMINOLE CROSSING PLAT. HAS THIS ITEM BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED? YES, SIR. THIS ITEM HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED AND THE PROOF IS IN THE BACKUP OF THE DOCUMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, DOES ANY COUNCIL MEMBER AT THIS TIME WITH REGARD TO THIS ITEM AND AGAIN THIS IS THE SEMINOLE CROSSING PLAT. ARE THERE ANY. VOTING CONFLICT DISCLOSURES OR ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION DISCLOSURES ANY COUNCIL MEMBER NEEDS TO MAKE? NO HEARING? NONE. I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER ON THIS ITEM, AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DINA FOR THE STAFF PRESENTATION. YES.
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. DINA FREEMAN WITH THE COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR THE APPLICATION REQUEST FOR PLT DASH 24 079, A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THE SEMINOLE CROSSING PLAT. SO THIS IS THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. RENEE PL 24 079 APPROVAL OF THE PLAT. LOCATED NORTH OF LINCOLN STREET AND EAST OF SOUTHWEST COMMERCE PARK DRIVE, INDIAN TOWN, ON PARCELS TOTALING 4.36 ACRES. NEXT SLIDE. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION SHOWN IN THE RED AREA FOR THE ACTUAL PLAT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THIS IS THE APPROVED SITE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED AS A MINOR SITE PLAN. THIS AND THE NEXT STEP WITH. AFTER YOU'VE DONE A SITE PLAN AND YOU INTEND TO CREATE A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WHICH IS THREE OR MORE LOTS, IS THAT AT SOME POINT YOU REQUIRE A PLAT APPROVAL AHEAD OF BEING ABLE TO SELL INDIVIDUAL LOTS AND DESCRIBE ALL OF THE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS, PASSER CONTROLS AND INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSES. SO THAT'S WHY THE APPLICANT APPLICANT TEAM AGENTS ARE HERE TODAY. SO THERE'S THE APPROVED SITE PLAN. THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS JUST THE ACTUAL PLAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE IN THE PACKET AS A LARGER SCALE. BUT JUST TO SHOW YOU THE PLAT IS BASICALLY HAS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE APPROVED SITE PLAN. AND IT HAS ALL OF THE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS, ALL OF THE AREAS THAT NEED TO BE SIGNED. IT'S REVIEWED BY THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COLLEAGUES, INCLUDING OUR VILLAGE ENGINEER THAT IS HERE TONIGHT. IT'S ALSO REVIEWED BY A PROFESSIONAL SURVEYOR ON BEHALF OF THE VILLAGE. IT'S PREPARED BY A PROFESSIONAL SURVEYOR IN RELATION TO THE FLORIDA STATE STATUTES THAT GOVERN WHAT A SURVEY SHOULD INCLUDE. SO BEFORE IT COMES BEFORE YOU, IT GOES THROUGH SEVERAL ROUNDS OF REVIEWS IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT POINT WHERE IT QUALIFIES FOR FINAL ACTION. SO WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU A SCREENSHOT OF THE WHAT THE PLAT LOOKS LIKE ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF PAGES TO. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THIS IS JUST THE OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SEE THE SIMILARITIES WITH THE SITE PLAN, BUT IT'S GOT A LOT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ACTUAL DIMENSIONS FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL LOT. AND THE OVERALL INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALSO METES AND BOUNDS AND, AND ALL OF THOSE DETAILS THAT ARE REQUIRED ON A PLAT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THE LDR CRITERIA IS INCLUDED IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR INDIAN TOWNS. SUBSECTION 12
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SEVEN SIX. AND THAT THE APPROVAL CRITERIA IS SIMPLY THAT IT HAS TO COME BEFORE THE PLANNING, ZONING APPEALS BOARD AND VILLAGE COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION. IT'S FOLLOWED THE CHAPTER 12 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCEDURES, INCLUDING THE CORRECT PROCESSING. AND ULTIMATELY IT'S HERE FOR A FINAL DECISION OF APPROVAL, DISAPPROVAL OR RECOMMENDATIONS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. IT'S BEEN CORRECTLY ADVERTISED. IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COLLEAGUES UNDER SECTION 12 SEVEN PLATTING AND RIGHT OF WAY. IT'S ALSO BEEN RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF FOR APPROVAL BASED ON THOSE CODE PROVISIONS, SUBJECT TO CONSIDERATION BY PLANNING AND ZONING APPEALS BOARD. AND THEY RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE THIS AT A PUBLIC HEARING ON JUNE 5TH. AND WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE WE REQUEST THE SAME FROM FINAL DECISION OF APPROVAL FROM VILLAGE COUNCIL. SO THAT'S THE END OF STAFF PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS ON. PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, SIR. DO YOU WANT TO. YEAH. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION. NO. HOLD ON, HOLD ON. PUBLIC COMMENT. OH, LOOKS LIKE WE DO HAVE ONE. MR. HERNANDEZ. I'M SORRY, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. THAT HERNANDEZ. JUST. WHAT WAS THAT AREA AGAIN? I DIDN'T SEE THAT. THE FIRST SLIDE OF THIS PLOT. YEAH, THIS PLOTS LINCOLN STREET, LINCOLN STREET AND IN BETWEEN LINCOLN AND COMMERCE AND COMMERCE. LINCOLN STREET IS. YEAH. YOU CAN SEE IT FROM LINCOLN STREET. YOU CAN SEE IT WHEN YOU PULL INTO BOCA PARK. OKAY, OKAY. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY. THE HOMES THAT ARE BEING. THANK YOU. OKAY, OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN ONSLAUGHT. A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN WATERS. BROWN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. PASS UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON. AND THIS THIS ITEM. NEXT ITEM ARE BOTH BEING ADOPTED[5) APPLICATION NO. PD-24-055 A RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, TO APPROVE THE “OSCEOLA PINES” FIRST AMENDMENT TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING AGREEMENT” FOR AN APPROXIMATELY 61.04-ACRE +/- PROPERTY LOCATED NORTH OF SW 150TH STREET AND WEST OF SW SHAWNEE AVENUE, INDIANTOWN; AND PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS, CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY, AND EFFECTIVE DATE.]
BY RESOLUTION. SO I'LL READ THE RESOLUTION TITLE AND THEN ASK A COUPLE QUICK PRELIMINARY QUESTIONS. SO ITEMS OF RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, TO APPROVE THE OSCEOLA PINES FIRST AMENDMENT TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING AGREEMENT FOR AN APPROXIMATELY 61.04 ACRE PLUS OR MINUS PROPERTY LOCATED NORTH OF SOUTHWEST 50TH STREET AND WEST OF SOUTHWEST SHAWNEE AVENUE, INDIANTOWN, AND PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS, CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, JUST VERY QUICKLY JUST WANT TO CONFIRM. FOR THE RECORD, MADAM CLERK, HAS THIS ITEM BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED? YES, SIR. IN THE PROOF OF ADVERTISEMENT IS IN THE BACKUP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, ARE THERE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS OR VOTING CONFLICTS TO DISCLOSE AS TO THIS ITEM? NO. HEARING? NONE. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DINA. THANK YOU.YES. GOOD EVENING, DINA FREEMAN, COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, OSCEOLA PINES, THERE'S A APPLICATION. ALL THE APPLICATION MATERIALS THAT ARE APPLICABLE WERE INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA PACKET AND THE STAFF REPORT. THIS IS THE PRESENTATION SUMMARY. SO KENDALL INDUSTRIAL LLC IS SEEKING APPROVAL OF A FROM THE VILLAGE COUNCIL FOR THE FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE OSCEOLA PINES PUD AGREEMENT PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION 12, SECTION 1210 PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS. AND THIS IS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR INDIAN TOWN. IT'S PD 24 055 OSCEOLA PINES PD AMENDMENT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE SITE WHICH IS DEPICTED IN RED IN RELATION TO 150TH STREET AND SOUTHEAST SHAWNEE AVENUE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THIS IS JUST TO CONFIRM THE LAND USE. AND WHEN WE REVIEW WE LOOK AT THE LAND USE. AND OBVIOUSLY THE ZONING IN THIS CASE IS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN A STRAIGHT ZONING. SO THE LAND USE ON THE PROJECT IS SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. AND THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THAT IT'S THE ZONING WAS ALREADY A PD, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY A PUD WHEN IT WAS WHEN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN INCORPORATED. I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A MOMENT. BUT THERE'S THE AREA THAT'S SHOWN IN A LIGHT BLUE AREA AND THEN HATCHED IS PD. AND JUST TO EXPLAIN, THE PUD IS A ZONING AGREEMENT, WHICH INCLUDES A MASTER SITE PLAN AS AN EXHIBIT, A TIMETABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND SPECIAL CONDITIONS, AND SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION. THIS WAS APPROVED IN ON JUNE 10TH, 2008 WHEN IT WAS WITHIN MARTIN COUNTY. SO IT'S QUITE IT'S QUITE AN OLD PUD. BUT THEY DID KEEP IT ALIVE PER SE IN TERMS OF TIMETABLES THROUGH MULTITUDE OF TIMETABLE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PART OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE BILLS AND SO FORTH. SO THAT WAS ALL INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION PACKET. AND
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SO BUT THE REVIEW AND THE REQUEST FOR AN AMENDMENT WAS TRIGGERED WHEN WE WERE REVIEWING THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS A MAJOR SITE PLAN. AND WE IDENTIFIED THAT THERE WAS SOME INCONSISTENCIES WITH THE MAJOR SITE PLAN THAT NEEDED AND TRIGGERED OPENING UP THE PUD, SO THAT IN DOING SO, THEY PROVIDED A DOCUMENT THAT INCLUDED UPDATING IT FROM ALL OF THE REFERENCE TO MARTIN COUNTY LANGUAGE AND MAKING IT INDIAN TOWN RELEVANT. SO IT'S BEEN REVIEWED IN WITH REGARDS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS INCLUDED IN OUR LDR NEXT. AND IT'S THE MAJOR SITE PLAN CRITERIA THAT IS USED FOR PUD. SO THERE'S THE APPROVED MASTER PLAN FROM 2008. AND WE'VE GOT A SUMMARY IN THE PACKET. AND ALSO ON THIS SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE PROPOSED PUD WHICH IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SHOW THE DIFFERENCE. BUT I'VE SUMMARIZED THAT IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES. NEXT SLIDE. SO THERE ARE ADDITIONS. THERE'S A REQUIREMENT OF AN ADDITIONAL UNIT. IT WAS APPROVED FOR 157 UNITS WHEN IN MARTIN COUNTY, DUE TO SOME ELIMINATION OF SOME FUTURE ROADWAY AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS, THERE IS AN ABILITY TO INCREASE IT TO AN ADDITIONAL UNIT, AND THAT INCREASED THE DENSITY AS WELL. AND AS I SAID IN THERE, THE ELIMINATION OF THE CROSS ACCESS WAS PURELY DOWN TO THE FACT THAT IT'S ACCESSES TO NOWHERE IN THAT IT DOESN'T HOOK UP AND LINK TO ANY PART OF TERRA LARGO. IT'S ACTUALLY INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTIAL LOTS, SO IT'S POINTLESS TO HAVE THAT STILL IN A PUD ON A MASTER PLAN. THEY THE DENSITY INCREASE, AND IN DOING SO, JUST TO REMIND PEOPLE BASED ON THE LAND USE, THAT COULD ACTUALLY GO UP TO FIVE UNITS PER ACRE ON DENSITY. SO THEY'RE WELL BELOW THE NUMBER THAT THEY COULD PUT ON THE SITE. AND THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH MARTIN COUNTY'S LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AS WELL.NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE LOT LINES AND SOME OF THE SIZES AND CONFIGURATIONS HAVE SLIGHTLY CHANGED AND THE NUMBERING AS WELL. SO THAT AGAIN WAS INCLUDED ON THE UPDATED MASTER PLAN.
THAT'S AN EXHIBIT TO THE PUD ZONING AGREEMENT. NEXT SLIDE. THE REQUESTS AND AN INCREASE IN THE OPEN SPACE. AND THAT'S DEPICTED ON THE MASTER PLAN MAXIMUM MINIMUM MAXIMUM THRESHOLDS. AND ALSO ON THE MAJOR SITE PLAN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE NEXT THE ELIMINATION OF THE TWO POSSIBLE FUTURE ACCESS POINTS WAS BASED ON JUSTIFICATION, JUST PROVIDED THEY'RE NO LONGER CURRENT AND REQUIRED FOR TERRA LARGO. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THERE ARE ALSO SOME REQUESTS IN SIDEWALK WIDTH REDUCTION FROM 6FT TO 5FT, AND ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET ONLY, AS WAS DISCUSSED AT THE PLANNING ZONING APPEALS BOARD. WHEN I WAS ASKED THE JUSTIFICATION AND THE RATIONALE FOR STAFF IN DOING SO IS THAT THE MINIMUM SIDEWALK SIZE IN THE VILLAGE IS FIVE FEET, WHEREAS MARTIN COUNTY IS SIX FOOT ACROSS THE BOARD, AND THEN IT IS A PUD. SO THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK FOR A REDUCTION IN SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES. THAT'S QUITE COMMON IN PUDS.
THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING MODIFICATION TO NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, AND OWNERSHIPS HAVE CHANGED TO KENDALL INDUSTRIAL FROM OSCEOLA PINES PUD. WE HAVE THE APPLICANT AND DEVELOPER HERE REPRESENTING HIMSELF AND MR. KENDALL. AND JUST A SIDE NOTE, MR. KENDALL IS KENDALL INDUSTRIAL IN VENTURE PARK AND PART OF HIS OBJECTIVE AND STEERING HIM FORWARD IS TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR ALL THE WORKFORCE AND ALL THE JOBS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. TIMETABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT HAS ALSO BEEN MODIFIED AS EXHIBIT E TO REFLECT. OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO OPEN UP THE PUD, SO OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THE TIMELINE SOMEWHAT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE APPROVAL CRITERIA IS SECTION 12 EIGHT. MAJOR SITE PLAN STAFF IS INCLUDED AS STAFF REPORT THAT PROVIDES ALL OF THE CRITERIA AND THE ANALYSIS. AND WE'VE WE'VE ENSURED THAT THE CONSISTENCY IS THERE WITH THE LDR REQUIREMENTS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION IT'S BEEN CORRECTLY ADVERTISED AND THAT HAS ALL BEEN INCLUDED IN THE PACKET. THE STAFF REPORT HAS IDENTIFIED THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 12 EIGHT VILLAGE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. AND THE PCI PCB ALSO RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUSLY FOR APPROVAL AT THE JUNE 5TH, 2025 PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE APPLICATION, PD 24 055 FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE PD, AND THAT'S THE END OF STAFF PRESENTATION. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANKS. I CAN PULL THAT BACK UP. SORRY. GENERAL. IT'S NOT FAR FROM HERE.
I CAN JUST SHOW YOU THE MAP RIGHT THERE. THERE'S SHAWNEE AVENUE. DO YOU WANT TO. YOU CAN.
YEAH, JUST ACROSS THE STREET DOWN THERE. THERE'S A. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE ON THE SIDEWALKS? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? YES. HOW ABOUT THE OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY? THE PERIMETER OF THE COMMUNITY? THEY'RE PUTTING SIDEWALKS IN THERE. NO, NO. THIS IS A HISTORIC PUD THAT CAME IN IN 2008. I THINK WE NEED TO. I
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THINK WE NEED TO INCLUDE THAT. IT NEEDS TO BE SIDEWALKS. SORRY. WE JUST GO THROUGH. YEAH. KEY.OH, I THOUGHT YOU JUST. SORRY THAT QUESTION. I MEANT ANYBODY IN THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION. ANY COMMENTS BY COUNCIL? I DO, YOU SAID THE PARK SECTION THERE NO LONGER.
YOU BRIEFLY TOUCHED ON IT. CAN THAT SLIDE? YEAH. WE CAN SHOW YOU THE SLIDE. THERE'S ACTUALLY AN INCREASE IN THE PARK PROVISION. CORRECT. WE'VE GOT THE APPLICANT HERE HE CAN PRESENT AND THE AGENT AS WELL. IF YOU WANT TO FILL IN ANY DETAILS OR WHAT DO YOU WANT TO PUT THAT IN UNDER THIS ONE. WELL IT'S PART OF THE MASTER SITE PLAN AS WELL BECAUSE IT'S NOT WITH MARTIN COUNTY AND THE THEY DO A LOT OF DETAIL IN THE MASTER PLAN. THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MASTER SITE PLAN. AND THEN WHEN YOU GET INTO SITE PLANNING IN THE MAJOR SITE PLAN, SO THEY DO THE MASTER PLAN, THE PUD, AND THEN THEY COME IN AND THEY CAN DO THEIR MAJOR SITE PLAN. AND IT'S GOT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE MASTER SO WE CAN GET INTO THE SITE DESIGN IN THE IN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM AS WELL. BUT THERE REALLY ISN'T THAT MUCH IN IT IN TERMS OF THE DETAILS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED. SO YOU CAN ASK NOW AS WELL. IT'S EITHER IT'S YOUR YOUR DISCRETIO.
HOW MUCH GREEN SPACE IS IN THERE. WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE INFORMATION. I MEAN, IS THERE A PARK. YEAH, YEAH. RENEE, CAN YOU PUT THE WHERE THE GAZEBO INFO WAS SHARED? THAT'S SLIDE 40 TO 41 ACRES. YEAH. IT'S INCREASED AND IT'S SHOWN ON THE OVERALL THRESHOLDS FURTHER DOWN.
RENEE. NEXT ONE. SO WHERE'S THE PARK ON THAT? THERE'S MULTIPLE PARKS IN THERE SHOWN IN DIFFERENT AREAS. BUT THE NEXT SLIDE SHOULD TELL YOU ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PARKS AND THE INCREASE. SORRY. KEEP GOING. SORRY RENEE IF I HAD THE POINTER. THAT'S THE DENSITY.
THAT'S THE LOT LINES. KEEP GOING. THERE IT IS. AND THERE'S THE OPEN SPACE. SO IT'S INCREASED FROM 40.64 ACRES TO 41.8 ACRES. SO THEY'VE HAD A BIT OF A SHUFFLE AROUND AND PROVIDED ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE. THAT ANOTHER THING TO NOTE ON THIS AND WHERE STAFF WERE THIS IS A 2008 APPROVAL. THE REQUIREMENT FOR UPLAND PRESERVATION IS LIKE 25% OF THE SITE, THE UPLAND PRESERVE AND THE OPEN SPACE IN GENERAL, AND A SITE PLAN THAT'S COME FROM MARTIN COUNTY DAYS IS MUCH MORE SUBSTANTIAL THAN IT WOULD BE IF IT WAS WITHIN INDIAN TOWN USING THAT PLAN. YES. SO WE DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T OPEN UP THE WHOLE PLAN AND REDESIGN THE WHOLE THING. THEY COULD HAVE GOT UP TO FIVE UNITS PER ACRE, BUT THEY RESPECTED THAT. THEY GOT THE APPROVAL AND THEY WERE JUST COMING IN TO RECONFIGURE AND ADD ONE LOT. SO WE DIDN'T GET INTO BECAUSE THEY PROVIDED SO MUCH MORE THAN YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE WITHIN INDIAN TOWN. THAT WAS SEEN AS A HUGE BENEFIT TO INDIAN TOWN. I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT EARLIER. SORRY, I, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SIDEWALKS ALONG 150TH AND ALSO ON SHAWNEE RIGHT THERE. UNDERSTAND. AND YOU CAN ASK FOR THAT. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER CORNER PIECE WHEN THAT GETS DEVELOPED ON THE SIDEWALK WILL GET FINISHED.
THAT'S THE OR WILL FINISH IT. YEAH. NO, THAT'S ANOTHER COUNCILWOMAN. COUNCILOR. YEAH.
SO WHAT YOU'RE WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR ON REDUCTION OF THE WIDTH OF THE SIDEWALK IS CONSISTENT WITH INDIAN TOWN'S REQUIREMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? NO. I MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE IT. DO WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT REGARDING THE SIDEWALKS? YES, YES, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. ABSOLUTELY. I KNOW I'M ADDING COST TO YOUR JOB, BUT THAT'S THE WAY THE COOKIE CRUMBLES. OUTSIDE OF THIS COMMUNITY. I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. I'LL ANSWER THE QUESTION. AND. YOU'RE KIND OF WHERE WE THEIR PROPERTY OR ANYTHING ELSE, I GUESS. MAYBE A THE SIDEWALKS THAT PIECE TOO, SO THAT IF THEY I'D LIKE TO SEE AN OFFICER ON. OH YEAH. MORE CLARIFICATION. I'M SURE THAT'S RIGHT. WELL THAT'S ONE THING YOU HAVE TO I GUESS YOU CONTROL. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. YEAH, LET'S. GOOD EVENING.
TROY HOLLOWAY WITH TWO. WE'RE THE LAND PLANNERS, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS FOR OSCEOLA PINES AND FOR GINA FRANCAVILLA ON THIS PROJECT. YEAH, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING. BUT IF WE JUST MAYBE GO TO GO FORWARD TO WE HAVE A COLORED SITE PLAN IN THERE A RENDERED IT MIGHT
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HELP YOU SEE ACTUALLY FROM THIS PLAN. WELL, THAT'LL HELP TOO. THERE'S REALLY ONLY A COUPLE PLACES ON THE PERIMETER WHERE YOU COULD EVEN ADD SIDEWALKS. YOU CAN SEE ON THE VERY SOUTH SIDE ALONG 1/50, YOU'VE GOT OUR MAIN ENTRANCE ON THE SOUTH END. YOU'VE YOU'VE ONLY GOT, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE 20FT ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ENTRANCE ENTRY ROAD. AND THERE IS NO SIDEWALKS CURRENTLY ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD. BUT YOU YOU'VE ONLY GOT A SMALL SECTION THAT BASICALLY ABUTS THE ROAD. AND THEN ALONG SHAWNEE, WE'VE GOT ALL THE LOTS THERE THAT ARE WILL BE ACCESSING THAT.AND I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER. GINA, DO WE HAVE A SIDEWALK THERE? WHERE? ALONG THE LOTS ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE. ALONG SHAWNEE. THERE'S ON SHAWNEE. THERE'S EXISTING PLAN. IT WAS WITH SANDY OAKS. SANDY OAKS. I DEVELOPED ALSO PROBABLY FROM 2012 WHEN I COMPLETED ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.
AND BASICALLY, CAN YOU OH, FOR THE RECORD. EUGENE FRANCAVILLA, I'M THE OWNER OF OSCEOLA, AND I DEVELOPED SANDY OAKS, SO MAYBE I COULD JUST HELP YOU OUT WITH THIS. THERE'S TWO FEEDER ROADS AT SANDY OAKS THAT WHEN THEY DID THIS MASTER PLAN BACK IN 2008, SANDY OAKS WAS THE FIRST SECTION. AND THEN OSCEOLA PINES FROM MR. RAFI YEARS AGO WAS THE SECOND SECTION. SO THE FEEDER ROADS FROM SANDY OAKS ARE GOING TO HAVE THE SIDEWALKS CONTINUED, WHICH CAN CONSISTENT. THEY'RE FIVE FOOT IN SANDY OAKS AND IT'S ONLY ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET. SO WE'LL BE COMING IN FROM SANDY OAKS AND CONTINUING THE PEDESTRIAN WALKS FOR BICYCLES AND PEOPLE TO WALK. AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE'S GOING TO BE NO ACCESS OFF OF SHAWNEE. THERE'S NOTHING. THERE'S NO HOUSES FACING SHAWNEE. AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE REAR OF THE LOTS. AND MY CORRECT SHAWNEE IS THAT THOSE THOSE LOTS OF MONEY. YEAH. BUT IT'S ON THE IT'S BUT IT'S THE REAR OF THE HOUSES. NO, NO IT'S THE. FRONT. YEAH. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT THERE. 123456788. LOTS RIGHT OFF OF SHAWNEE. AND THAT COMES OFF OF. YEAH, THE NORTH SIDE UP NORTH OF THAT. YEAH.
THOSE ARE BACK A LOT. RIGHT. BUT THOSE EIGHT THAT YOU'RE AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. YEAH I HAVE NO PROBLEM PUTTING A SIDEWALK THERE. IF THEY'RE FACING ON SHAWNEE I HAVE NO PROBLEM. AND THEN WE'RE TYING INTO ALL THE WALKS AS THEY COME OUT EACH OF THOSE STREETS, THEY ALL TIE INTO THE SIDE OF THE EXISTING SIDEWALKS AND THE BODY. YEAH. SO EVERY STREET THAT HAS HOMES WILL HAVE SIDEWALKS EITHER ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET OR THE OTHER. CORRECT. AND IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH. SANDY OAKS. AND BASICALLY THIS WAS YEARS BACK SUPPOSED TO BE THE NEXT PHASE.
AND THIS PHASE NEVER REALLY GOT DEVELOPED WHEN THEY DID SANDY OAKS. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, SANDY OAKS OUT THERE FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS UNTIL I GOT IN AND I BUILT IT OUT. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT. SO IF THIS HOUSE IS FACING A ROAD, EITHER ONE SIDE OF THE STREET OR ANOTHER WILL PROVIDE THE SIDEWALK. OKAY. MAKE SENSE? YEAH OKAY. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. MAKE A MOTION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? MAYOR DEAN, I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION SOMETHING VERY QUICKLY, JUST FOR THE RECORD. YEAH. DEENA FREEMAN, FOR THE RECORD, WE WERE GOING TO GET INTO I DIDN'T I BRUSHED OVER BUT DIDN'T. IT WAS MORE FOR THE FINAL SITE PLAN SIDE. BUT WHEN WE WERE DOING THE REVIEW AND BASED ON THE CAPACITY CHALLENGES THAT WE GOT FROM A WATER CAPACITY, THERE IS SOME LANGUAGE IN THE PUD THAT'S ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE FINAL SITE PLAN. THAT ONLY ALLOWS 40 OF THE UNITS IS 158 UNITS, AND THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO DO 40 OR 40 UNITS. SO THAT'S JUST TO WE WANT TO ADDRESS THAT AND PUT IT ON RECORD THAT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S THE MAXIMUM NUMBER THAT WE'VE GOT CAPACITY FOR WITH OUR VILLAGE ENGINEERS HERE AS WELL, WHO HAS RUN THE NUMBERS WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS UTILITIES DIRECTOR. SO THE REMAINDER OF THE UNITS WILL THEY WILL BUILD OUT THE WHOLE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PHASE ONE WITH THOSE 40 UNITS, AND THEN THEY WILL THE REMAINDER OF THE UNITS WILL ONLY BE ALLOWED AS AND WHEN WE HAVE THE AVAILABILITY OF CAPACITY. SO THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT REFERENCE TO MAKE ON RECORD, AND DEFINITELY WAS GOING TO COME UP WITH THE NEXT APPLICATION FOR THE MAJOR SITE PLAN AS WELL. SO LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. YES. WHAT'S STOPPING THEM FROM PUTTING INDIVIDUAL WELLS FOR EACH HOUSE AND LET THEM BUILD THEIR HOMES AND, AND AS LONG AS
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THEY'RE PLUMBED FOR WATER AND SEWER, WHICH THE SEWER WE CAN PROVIDE, AS I UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW. YES, SURE. IT'S SEWER. THAT'S FINE. IT'S WATER CAPACITY. BUT IT'S THEY'RE THEY HAVE THE OPTION. ULTIMATELY THEY HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE FIRE SUPPRESSION AND ALSO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE WATER TO SERVE THE UNITS. AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH BEFORE WE BECAME BEFORE EVEN BZYB TO DETERMINE WHAT THE THRESHOLDS AND WHAT WE COULD ACHIEVE RIGHT NOW. AND THEY WERE OPTING WITH THE 4 TO 40 AT THIS POINT AND NOT GOING WITH INDIVIDUAL WELLS, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. AND THAT'S A BUSINESS DECISION. AND ALSO, OBVIOUSLY THEY'D HAVE TO PERMIT WITH SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AS WELL. SO IT'S AT THEIR DISCRETION. IT IS A PUD, BUT WE FROM A VILLAGE POINT OF VIEW, THE THRESHOLD AND THE CALCULATIONS BASED ON WHAT CAPACITY CAPACITY WE HAVE IS 40. OKAY. OKAY. RIGHT. YEAH. WELL, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANY MORE? AND TOM WILL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. THE PROBLEM ISN'T SUPPLYING DOMESTIC WATER TO THE HOUSES. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PRESSURE IN. OH, OH, PAT'S HERE TO. OKAY. EVERYONE'S HERE.THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PRESSURE IN THE FIRE HYDRANTS. IT HAS A THRESHOLD OF 1000 PSI. SO THEN MARTIN COUNTY FIRE, IN CASE THERE IS A FIRE, CAN PUT OUT THE FIRE. SO UNTIL PAT AND THE VILLAGE BOOST UP THAT SYSTEM, WHICH CAN TAKE HOPEFULLY 2 TO 4 YEARS, WE'RE HOPING THEN MARTIN COUNTY FIRE WILL HAVE THAT THRESHOLD. RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT ENOUGH WATER IN THE TANK OR ENOUGH POWER TO SUPPLY MARTIN COUNTY FIRE. SO BETWEEN TOM, MYSELF AND OUR TEAM. WE SAID, HOW CAN WE AT LEAST PROCEED WITH THE SUBDIVISION? SO THE OPTION WAS AT OUR EXPENSE. WE'RE GOING TO PUT FIRE SUPPRESSION SPRINKLER SYSTEMS IN EACH UNIT JUST OH MAN, THAT'S THE WAY WE HAVE TO DO. I DON'T HAVE A CHOICE OR OR WE WON'T GET THE BLESSING FROM FIRE DEPARTMENT.
FIRE DEPARTMENT. I GET ALL THAT. AND THEY SAID WHEN IF I GET TO HOUSE 34 OR 40, WHICH IS MY THRESHOLD. THEN ON THE NEXT ONES, ONCE THE PRESSURE GOES UP, THAT WON'T BE ONE OF MY REQUISITES OR REQUIREMENTS TO D. TO SATISFY. YOU WON'T HAVE TO DO THE SPRINKLERS, NOT AFTER 40. WE GET ENOUGH WATER WITH THE NEW PLANT AND THE AND THE FUNDING AND EVERYTHING TO HAPPEN. SO WE REALLY WANTED TO PROCEED AND WE WANT TO GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN. I WANT YOU TO PROCEED. I WANT YOU TO BUILD THEM ALL TOMORROW. I KNOW, I MEAN, WE NEED THE TAX REVENUE. AND I THINK THIS IS A BETTER SOLUTION THAN WELLS, WHICH YOU PRESENTED BECAUSE ONCE ONCE YOU GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE UP TO DATE AND WE HAVE ENOUGH WATER, THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAP IN ANYWAY, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO COST ME $2 TO SAVE A DOLLAR. SO IT'S WE AGREED ON IT FOR NOW BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET GOING. AND WE REALLY, AS TOM CAN SAY, WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE BECAUSE WE WON'T WE WON'T GET THAT THRESHOLD FROM. MARTIN COUNTY FIRE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, HOPEFULLY WE CAN RESOLVE THE WATER ISSUE PRETTY QUICKLY HERE.
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. I HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT, MR. HERNANDEZ. DID YOU WRITE ONE? DID YOU WRITE ONE? I SAID NO, BECAUSE WITHOUT HERNANDEZ, THE QUESTION THAT I DID HAVE WAS ON THAT SITE PLAN BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ONE IN HAND. BUT HOW BIG ARE EACH? LOTS PROPOSED TO BE CONSISTENT. CAN I ANSWER THAT YES OR NO ANSWER. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH SANDY OAKS OKAY. AND IT'S GOING TO BE CONSISTENT. DO YOU KNOW? NINO ON RECORD? ON RECORD. OH I'M SORRY. COME ON. YES. YOU'RE GOOD TO THE MIC. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS. CONSISTENT WITH THE. OH I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT I'M LOUD ENOUGH. YOU KNOW, THE LOT SIZES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS SANDY OAKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SECOND QUESTION IS WITH THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD INTO THE HOMES. I WANT TO KNOW, LIKE WHAT'S THE TIME LAPSE OF
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WHEN THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO START, YOU KNOW, DESTROYING OR, YOU KNOW, STARTING TO BUILD THAT PLACE OR BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT PART OF THE PLAN ARE WE ON JUST YET, JUST THE APPROVAL OF THE PLATS AND THE APPROVAL OF IT. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHEN'S THE TARGET DATE OF MAYBE START DATE? YEAH, THE START DATE FOR THAT. I JUST LIVE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO START TO SEE HOUSES? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YEAH, YEAH. LIKE WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO START SEEING HOUSES NEXT YEAR. PARDON ME. WITHIN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. AS SOON 24 MONTHS. JUST TAKE IT WITH YOU. AS SOON AS YOU GIVE ME BLESSING, WE HAVE TO START THE MITIGATION AND WE HAVE TO START THE CLEARING. SO I WOULD LIKE TO START AS LONG AS I'M ALLOWED TO. OKAY. SO THAT'S TOMORROW. OKAY. YOU GOT IT. THANK YOU. OKAY.THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? NO, SIR. OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION TO APPROVE BY MR. BROWN AND SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN SLAUGHTER. MAYOR. JUST TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD HERE, I UNDERSTAND THAT MOTION INCLUDE APPROVAL WITH NOTATION THAT THAT SIDEWALKS WILL BE INSTALLED ALONG SHAWNEE AVENUE. CORRECT.
AND ANY SHAWNEE AVENUE FACING HOMES. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE FROM THE APPLICANT. SO JUST WANTED THAT ON THE RECORD THAT THAT'S PART OF THE MOTION. SO THAT'S PART OF THE MOTION. YES. THE MOTION. NO NO IT'S GOOD OKAY OKAY. WHAT ELSE. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. THEY NEED A VOTE I THOUGHT THEY DIDN'T NEED TO VOTE. YEAH. OH, YEAH. ALL IN. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. PASS UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MAYOR, AS TO
[6) APPLICATION NO. SP-24-055 A RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, APPROVING APPLICATION NO. SP-25-055 FOR THE MAJOR SITE PLAN FOR AN APPROXIMATELY 61.04-ACRE +/- RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMPRISING OF 158 SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS, LOCATED NORTH OF SW 150TH STREET AND WEST OF SW SHAWNEE AVENUE, INDIANTOWN;AND PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS, CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY, AND EFFECTIVE DATE.]
THIS NEXT ITEM, THIS IS RELATED, BUT THIS IS ANOTHER RESOLUTION, A RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, APPROVING APPLICATION NUMBER SP, DASH 25 055 FOR THE MAJOR SITE PLAN FOR AN APPROXIMATELY 61.04 ACRE PLUS OR MINUS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMPRISING COMPRISING OF 158 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS LOCATED NORTH OF SOUTHWEST 150TH STREET AND WEST OF SOUTHWEST SHAWNEE AVENUE, INDIANTOWN, AND PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS, CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, MADAM CLERK, IF YOU COULD CONFIRM THIS ITEM IS IMPROPERLY ADVERTISED. YES, THE ITEM HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED AND THE PROOF IS IN THE BACKUP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THIS ITEM IS COMPLETELY RELATED TO THE LAST ITEM YOU ALL HEARD. BUT JUST TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD, ARE THERE ANY? ARE THERE ANY EXPORT OR COMMUNICATIONS OR VOTING CONFLICTS TO DISCLOSE? NO. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TAKE WE'LL TAKE THE MAYOR'S PRIOR DISCLOSURE AS BEING CONSISTENT FOR THIS ONE. SO WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DINA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DINA FREEMAN WITH COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE LAST AGENDA ITEM. AND THE DIFFERENCE BEING THIS IS THE MAJOR SITE PLAN. KENDALL INDUSTRIAL, SAME APPLICANT AND OWNER LLC, IS SEEKING A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE VILLAGE COUNCIL PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION LDR 12 EIGHT, USING THE MAJOR SITE PLAN CRITERIA FOR APPLICATION NUMBER SP 24, DASH 055 OSCEOLA OSCEOLA, PINES PUD MAJOR SITE PLAN. NEXT SLIDE. AND THERE WE SHOW THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY IN RELATION TO SHAWNEE AVENUE AND 150TH. AND IT'S LITERALLY WEST OF SANDY OAKS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THIS IS JUST CONFIRMING AGAIN, THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL NEXT SLIDE CONFIRMS THAT THERE IS A ZONING FOR PUD. NOW WITH THE PED FIRST AMENDMENT ZONING AGREEMENT THAT'S JUST BEEN APPROVED. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS JUST THE BACKGROUND THAT WAS PROVIDED PREVIOUSLY. I'M JUST GOING TO SUMMARIZE THAT THE PUD WAS APPROVED IN MARTIN COUNTY IN 2008. THEY DID NOT ACTUALLY SEEK FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL AT THAT STAGE. SO WHEN THE VILLAGE INCORPORATED OSCEOLA PINES, PUD WAS ONE OF THE ZONING AGREEMENTS THAT WAS TRANSFERRED OVER INTO THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN'S JURISDICTION. AND IF THEY HADN'T CHANGED OR MODIFIED THE SITE PLAN, THEY WOULD HAVE JUST GONE WITH THE PUD AND THEN COME IN FOR FINAL SITE PLAN WITHIN THE INDIAN TOWN JURISDICTION. SO IT'S BEEN TRIGGERED AS AN AMENDMENT FOR THE PUD, AND NOW THE FINAL SITE PLAN IS IN, AND IT NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PUD MASTER PLAN, FIRST AMENDMENT. AND IT IS. AND WE'VE REVIEWED THAT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COLLEAGUES TEAM AGAIN, SUBSECTION 12 DASH EIGHT FIVE. SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THERE'S THE APPROVED PUD MASTER. THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS YOU THE PUD FIRST AMENDMENT MASTER SITE PLAN THAT WAS JUST APPROVED. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE PUD[01:25:05]
AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED EARLIER. SO I WON'T GO OVER THEM AGAIN OTHER THAN THE LOT CHANGE DENSITY, OPEN SPACE AND SOME FUTURE CONNECTIONS, SIDEWALKS, ETC. SO THAT WAS ALL BLESSED AS THE PUD FIRST AMENDMENT AND THEN THE FINAL SITE PLAN. THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR REQUESTING APPROVAL IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF THOSE AMENDMENTS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THIS IS THE PUD MAJOR SITE PLAN. AS I SAID BEFORE, IT DOESN'T LOOK THAT DIFFERENT FROM THE PD MASTER. IT DOES. IT DOES HAVE THE TITLE OF SITE PLAN RATHER THAN MASTER. BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MOST OF THE DIFFERENCE IN THE ACTUAL MAJOR SITE PLAN. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THIS IS THE APPROVAL CRITERIA THAT WAS DETAILED. SECTION 12 EIGHT. YOU DO HAVE AN APPLICATION MATERIALS. YOU DO HAVE A STAFF REPORT THAT GOES INTO ALL THE DIFFERENT CRITERIA UNDER THAT MAJOR SITE PLAN IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, STAFF ARE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF THOSE LDR PROVISIONS SUBJECT TO THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE MAJOR SITE PLAN APPLICATION HAS BEEN CORRECTLY ADVERTISED AS WAS CONFIRMED. VILLAGE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND PCAB UNANIMOUSLY, UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT THE JUNE 5TH, 2025 PUBLIC HEARING AND REQUEST THE FINAL DECISION FROM THE VILLAGE COUNCIL, WITH THE ADDITIONAL CAVEAT REGARDING THE FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS THAT WAS INCLUDED, IT SHOULD BE CARRIED OVER INTO THE MAJOR SITE PLAN IN THE IN THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, AND ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT INITIALLY THERE'S THAT 40 UNIT CAVEAT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT DRAFT RESOLUTION AND IN THE PUD. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT 40 UNITS AS THE FIRST PHASE, PART OF THE PHASE ONE. AND ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE REST WILL COME IN THE REST OF PHASE ONE AND INTO PHASE TWO. AND THAT'S ALL REFLECTED IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTION. THAT'S BEFORE YOU AS WELL. SO WITH THAT, IF STAFF HAVE GOT IF YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF, THEN I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER AND THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. NO I HAVE A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN. SECOND BY SECOND. BROWN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GINA. ONE MORE. SO RIGHT BACK AT. OKAY. ON TO ITEM[7) Waiver Per Sec. 112.313(12), Fla. Stat. of Potential Requirements of Sec. 112.313(3) & (7), Fla. Stat. re: Walton & Hersham Football Academy Facility Use Agreement]
NUMBER SEVEN. WAIVER PER SECTION ONE 1230 13.12 FLORIDA STATE STATUTE. YES, SIR. THANK YOU MAYOR, THIS ITEM IS MINE. I'D BE GLAD TO INTRODUCE IT. I MAY REPEAT A COUPLE THINGS THAT I GAVE A LITTLE PREVIEW OF BEFORE, BUT AS THE MAYOR ALLUDED TO, THIS ITEM IS FOR TODAY. IT'S A REQUEST FOR A WAIVER PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION 12 OF SECTION 1123134 TO STATUTES FOR THE OF THE POTENTIAL, OR BE CLEAR ON THAT. AGAIN, POTENTIAL REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION ONE, ONE, TWO, THREE, ONE, THREE, SUBSECTIONS THREE AND SEVEN OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES RELATING TO THE WALTON HERSHAM FOOTBALL ACADEMY FACILITY USE AGREEMENT. AS THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC WILL RECALL AT YOUR MAY 22ND MEETING, THE COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THAT FACILITY USE AGREEMENT WITH WALTON HERSHAM FOOTBALL ACADEMY FOR A AGAIN, A FACILITY USE AGREEMENT. AND I WANT TO I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ON THIS POINT, ACTUALLY, I'LL ADDRESS THAT IN A SECOND. WHAT THE NATURE OF THAT AGREEMENT IS, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND. IN ANY EVENT, AS YOU'LL RECALL, MR. COREY, WHO'S THE PRESIDENT OF UP THE SWANS, WAS HERE SPEAKING WITH YOU AT THAT MEETING AND EXTENSIVELY ANSWERED QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL CONCERNING IT DID, OF COURSE, AND IT WAS ALREADY KNOWN TO THE COUNCIL AND DID DISCLOSE PUBLICLY THAT, OF COURSE, HE IS A MEMBER OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. IN THE COURSE OF THAT, AFTER THE MEETING, THE VILLAGE DID RECEIVE AN INQUIRY ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS ANY CONCERN UNDER THE SECTIONS OF CHAPTER ONE, ONE, TWO THAT I REFERENCED UNDER SUBSECTIONS THREE AND SEVEN, AND THOSE ARE TITLED DOING BUSINESS WITH ONE'S AGENCY AND CONFLICTING EMPLOYMENT OR CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIPS. IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT HE IS ON THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD. AFTER WE RECEIVED THAT INQUIRY, I DID A DEEP DIVE INTO THIS ISSUE AND ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO THE GENERAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE AT THE FLORIDA COMMISSION ON ETHICS AND DID MY OWN REVIEW, AS WELL, AS YOU ALL RECALL, AND THE TIMING WAS GOOD JUST TODAY, ACTUALLY, I[01:30:06]
WAS GIVING TRAINING ON CHAPTER 112, ETHICS TO VILLAGE STAFF HERE FOR A COUPLE HOURS TODAY.AS YOU ALL KNOW, I DO TRAINING ON THIS FOR THE FOR OUR VILLAGE AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE VARIOUS CITIES WE REPRESENT ALL OVER THE STATE OF FLORIDA, BUT DID A DEEP DIVE ON THIS AND TALKED AT LENGTH WITH AN ATTORNEY WITH THE GENERAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE AT THE FLORIDA COMMISSION ON ETHICS. AFTER WE HAD REVIEWED IT, THE ULTIMATE CONCLUSION WE HAD COME TO WAS THAT WHILE IT IS GENERALLY THE CASE WHEN YOU KIND OF READ THE TOP LINE THING THAT THAT MEMBERS OF ADVISORY BOARDS CAN GET PULLED INTO ISSUES CONCERNING THOSE SUBSECTIONS WHEN THEY'RE A MEMBER OF ADVISORY ADVISORY BOARD, AND THEN THERE IS ANY SORT OF BUSINESS TRANSACTION, ALL RIGHT, THAT THERE IS WHEN EVALUATING ALL OF THE FACTS OF THIS INSTANCE, IN PARTICULAR, THE FACT THAT THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EVALUATION OF THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY USE AGREEMENT AT ALL. IT COMING BEFORE YOU THAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY TRIGGER THE APPLICATION. AND I KNOW THIS IS COMPLICATED. IT IS A MESS.
APPLYING THE FLORIDA ETHICS STATUTE. SOMETIMES IT WOULD TRIGGER THE APPLICATION UNDER A BUNCH OF FLORIDA COMMISSION ON ETHICS OPINIONS OF ANOTHER SECTION OF THE FLORIDA ETHICS CODE, 112316. THAT BASICALLY IS KIND OF A CURE ALL, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE FLORIDA COMMISSION ON ETHICS, WHERE THEY FIND THAT A LOT OF THESE ISSUES THAT DON'T SEEM TO MAKE ANY SENSE, BUT THERE ARE TECHNICAL VIOLATIONS. THEY APPLY THAT OTHER STATUTE AND FIND THERE IS, IN FACT, NO VIOLATION AT ALL. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT WAS THE CONCLUSION IN OUR EVALUATION FROM TALKING TO THE ATTORNEY WITH THE GENERAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE AND MYSELF, AFTER LOOKING AT A BUNCH OF OPINIONS THAT HAD REACHED VERY SIMILAR CONCLUSIONS ON VERY SIMILAR FACTS, AS WE TALKED ABOUT IT, THOUGH, WE DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT THERE IS IN THE CASE OF ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS, IT DOES NOT APPLY IN OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES. IT'S A VERY PARTICULAR THING THAT THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE AFFIRMATIVELY DECIDED TO PUT INTO THE ETHICS CODE. ALL RIGHT.
IS THAT WITH RESPECT TO ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS, THEY EFFECTIVELY RECOGNIZE THAT THESE THINGS THAT THAT OTHERWISE MIGHT, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY OR LOOK LIKE OR WHATEVER BE CALLED A CONFLICT.
WE'RE NOT REALLY A CONFLICT. OKAY. AND SO IT GAVE PLENARY AUTHORITY TO THE BODY THAT MAKES APPOINTMENTS FOR FOLKS ON ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IT IN INDIVIDUAL INSTANCES AND SAY, THERE'S NO PROBLEM HERE AT ALL WITH REGARD TO THOSE PARTICULAR SUBSECTIONS OF THE STATUTE, SUBSECTION THREE AND SUBSECTION SEVEN. AND, AND THEN PROVIDE FOR A WAIVER OF THE APPLICATION OF THAT IN THOSE PARTICULAR INSTANCES. ALL RIGHT. SO AGAIN THIS IS NOT WE JUST CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA. WE'LL JUST MAKE THE STATE STATUTE GO AWAY. THIS IS EXPRESSLY IN THE FLORIDA STATUTES TO SAY FOR THIS DISCRETE SET OF FOLKS, IT IS COMPLETELY WITHIN THE COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY. AND WITH THE LEGISLATURE'S BLESSING, THAT'S THE THING THEY SEE IS, IS USEFUL TO DO ALL THE TIME. AND WE DO DO IT. I WILL JUST TELL YOU, IN JURISDICTIONS WE REPRESENT ALL OF THE STATE, IT IS A COMMON OCCURRENCE. NOW, I HAD ALREADY MENTIONED THAT BASED ON THE EVALUATION, WE DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ACTUALLY ANY PROBLEM UNDER THE ETHICS CODE. BUT BECAUSE THERE'S THIS EASY WAY TO SORT THIS, WHY NOT BELT AND SUSPENDERS IT BRING IT BACK BEFORE YOU ALL AND HAVE YOU ALL JUST GO THROUGH IT VERY QUICKLY IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION AND IN ORDER TO AVOID ANY HYPOTHETICAL CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROGRAM OR ANYTHING ELSE SERVICE OF A VALUED MEMBER ON AN ADVISORY BOARD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, JUST TO CLEAR IT ALL UP WITH A STATE LAW SANCTIONED LITTLE PROCESS, STAFF DECIDED TO BE A GOOD IDEA TO BRING THIS BACK BEFORE YOU, TO HAVE YOU ALL BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO WITH THAT, STAFF HAS BROUGHT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION JUST TO AVOID ANY, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL CONCERN THAT THE VILLAGE COUNCIL APPROVE A WAIVER PER SECTION 112.313, SUBSECTION 12 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES OF A, THE POTENTIAL APPLICATION OF SECTIONS ONE, ONE, TWO, THREE, ONE, THREE, SUBSECTION THREE, AND SEVEN TO MR. COREY AND THE FACILITY USE AGREEMENT WITH WALTON AND HERSHAM FOOTBALL ACADEMY, AND THAT THE COUNCIL RATIFY AGAIN IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, THE FACILITY USE AGREEMENT WITH THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. WELL,
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LET US HAVE OUR FIRST COUNCILWOMAN DO ANY LONGER. AND SECOND, BY I KNOW WE ASKED FOR QUESTIONS. RIGHT. OKAY. THAT IS OKAY. SO WE ALL ARE CLEAR. IT'S NOT IN VIOLATION FOR HIM TO BE ON THE BOARD. RIGHT. AND HAVE THE SCHOOL. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT IN IN MY EVALUATION AND IN TALKING WITH THE, WITH ATTORNEY WITH GENERAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE, THE CONCLUSION WE CAME TO WAS IN THE APPLICATION OF ALL OF THE APPLICABLE RULES IN CHAPTER 112 AND THE COMMISSION ON ETHICS OPINIONS. WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION WE DID NOT BELIEVE IT APPLIED IN THE FIRST PLACE. HOWEVER, JUST AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION. WHAT'S BEING ASKED IS JUST GO AHEAD AND USE THAT PROCESS JUST TO CLEAR ANY AIR AT ALL. OKAY, SO ANY ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO TRIED TO OKAY. NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT OKAY? OKAY. IT'S A IT'S A GOOD POINT. ELECTED OFFICIALS REMEMBER I SAID THIS IS VERY DISCREET THING JUST FOR ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS. RIGHT. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ANIMAL. WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTED OFFICIALS. IT IS THE STATUTE DOES DOES NOT ALLOW IT FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS OR IT'S FOR JUST ADVISORY BOARDS. ALL RIGHT. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY WHAT THE MAYOR WAS SAYING EARLIER IS THAT THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WE'RE HERE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. JUST THIS PIECE.RIGHT. JUST THIS WAIVER, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE. THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE'RE HERE FOR, TO VOTE FOR THE WAIVER OR AGAINST.
CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND COUNCIL MEMBER ACTUALLY THAT I JUST GOT REMINDED I DID MENTION EARLIER WHEN THIS MATTER BRIEFLY CAME UP, I DID MENTION TO THE VICE MAYOR THAT I WOULD PUT ON THE RECORD ACTUALLY CONVERSATION I TAKE IT'S ALL RIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND SHARE THIS CONVERSATION THAT SHE AND I HAD PRIOR TO THE LAST MEETING, JUST CONFIRMING WITH ME AND I, I EVALUATED IT THOROUGHLY AND CAME TO A CONCLUSION ON THIS. SHE HAD ASKED, WAS THERE ANY CONCERN BECAUSE HER CHILD WAS A FORMER STUDENT AT THIS AT THIS SCHOOL? AND I EVALUATED THAT AND BASED ON A NUMBER OF FACTORS, INCLUDING PRIMARILY THE FACT THAT HE IS A FORMER STUDENT, THAT THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO CONFLICT WHATSOEVER, THERE WAS NO SPECIAL PRIVATE GAIN OR LOSS, WHICH IS THE BASIS FOR THE EVALUATION UNDER 112.3143, WHICH IS THE VOTING CONFLICT STATUTE.
OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD THAT THAT THE VICE MAYOR HAD BEEN VERY STUDIOUS IN RAISING THAT. AS WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED, WHENEVER THERE'S ANY SORT OF ISSUE LIKE THIS, I WOULD URGE YOU IN THE STRONGEST TERMS, BRING IT UP TO ME. WE CAN TALK THROUGH IT AND SORT IT OUT. BUT I FOUND THERE TO BE NOTHING AT ALL OF CONCERN WITH REGARD TO THAT FROM A VOTING CONFLICT STANDPOINT. BUT IN THE EVENT THAT HER CHILD OR ANY CHILD ON THIS PERMIT, ON THIS BOARD WANTED TO TAKE THEIR CHILDREN THERE, WOULD THAT BE A CONFLICT? NO AND NO. SO LET ME LET ME BACK UP AND YEAH. AND I WANT TO I WANT TO POINT OUT THIS IS THE OTHER THING I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION BRIEFLY, VERY QUICKLY, AND I ALLUDED TO IT WHEN I STARTED HERE. PLEASE UNDERSTAND, JUST SO WE CAN FRAME OURSELVES FOR WHAT IT IS THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED AT THE LAST MEETING.
RIGHT. THIS IS NOT A VILLAGE PROGRAM IT'D BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT. I KNOW THE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THIS. I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THIS. THIS IS NOT A VILLAGE PROGRAM. THIS IS NOT THE VILLAGE HAS SAID THIS IS OUR INITIATIVE OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS. THIS IS A FACILITY USE AGREEMENT REFERRED TO AS A LEASE. IT'S KIND OF LIKE A LEASE. IT'S HEY, WE'VE GOT THIS FACILITY, FOLKS USE IT SOMETIMES FOR SHORT TIME. SOMETIMES THEY USE IT FOR PERIODIC PERIODS OF TIME. THIS HAS HAPPENED MANY TIMES BEFORE. IT HAPPENS HERE, IT HAPPENS OTHER PLACES AND SO ON. A SCHOOL LIKE THIS COULD OCCUR ON COMPLETELY PRIVATE PROPERTY JUST THE SAME AS IT COULD ON, ON, YOU KNOW, ON, ON COUNTY OR VILLAGE PROPERTY OR WHAT HAVE YOU. IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE WE HAVE A FACILITY WITH A BUNCH OF SOCCER FIELDS NEXT TO A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN HAVE SOME INSIDE STUFF. IF THEY WERE PRIVATE SOCCER FIELDS, THEY COULD JUST AS EASILY HAVE ANOTHER PLACE. SO THIS IS NOT THE VILLAGE. HAVING SAID THIS IS OUR PROGRAM OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS, IT IS. FOLKS HAVE A THING AND COME AND SAID WE'D LIKE TO FOR A DISCRETE PERIOD OF TIME, YOU KNOW, PAY TO BE ABLE TO USE SOME OF THESE FACILITIES. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT FACILITY USE AGREEMENT IS. SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT IT'S,
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YOU KNOW, NOT JUMPING INTO THE FRAY OF HOW EDUCATION WORKS AND SO ON. THAT IS, I WOULD SUGGEST GENERALLY FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD. SO AND I'D LIKE TO, IF I MAY GET ON THE RECORD TOO, WHEN IN CALCULATING THE RENT AND MISS RUSSELL'S IS HERE. CORRECT ME, IT WAS A SIMILAR METHODOLOGY THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE WITH THE KANE CENTER FOR THAT SPACE. WHO WILL BE VACATING THAT SPACE. SO IT WAS THE SAME METHODOLOGY. THERE WAS NO, YOU KNOW. I MEAN, I, I'M APPALLED ALMOST THAT THAT KIND OF WAS INSINUATED. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. SO EVERYBODY CLEAR. THIS IS NOT A VILLAGE PROGRAM.MR. COREY IS LEASING THIS PROPERTY. HE IS PAYING $4,000. KNOW HOW MUCH? 3600. AND SOME CHANGE WE WANT. WE'RE GOING TO RAISE YOUR RENT. OKAY. MR. COREY IS PAYING TO USE THIS PROPERTY AGAIN. THIS IS WE. THE VILLAGE CAN'T TELL YOU. YOU RENTING. WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE EDUCATION, WHETHER IT'S TRADITIONAL OR NONTRADITIONAL, THE VILLAGE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT UP WITH WHATEVER BOARD THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH. WE EVERYBODY GOOD, RIGHT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL CLEAR SO WE DON'T HAVE TO REVISIT THIS, OKAY? ALL RIGHT. HOW HARD IS IT? MINE'S CLEAR. OKAY, OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? MAYOR.
VICE MAYOR. OKAY. TO GET CLARIFICATION, WHAT THE WAIVER WOULD WOULD PROTECT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EVERYONE IS CONFLICT OF INTEREST. CONFLICT OF INTEREST. YOU KNOW, THAT'S SO THIS IS.
YEAH. OBVIOUSLY NOW I UNDERSTAND NOW. YEAH. BUT YOU KNOW AND THIS WILL BE UPLOADED TO OUR WEBSITE.
YES. IT'S THIS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP MINUTES. YEAH. THIS. YEAH. THIS. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT APPROVED WOULD BE INCLUDED IN TOMORROW. I CAN'T GO ON HERE AND. HEY, HEY.
NO NOT TOMORROW WHEN YOU IN THE COMING DAYS. OKAY. YES. OKAY, SO I'M GONNA SAY THIS AGAIN. EXCUSE ME. THE. WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE WAIVER. RIGHT. IF THE WAIVER IS APPROVED, HE CAN STAY ON THE BOARD. OKAY? THIS IS NOT A VILLAGE PROGRAM. GOT IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOU'VE GOT NO PROBLEMS. SO THE VICE MAYOR RESCINDS HER COMMENT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE OF THE MEETING.
IT NEVER. IT NEVER WENT ANYWHERE. YEAH. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO REPLACE THEM, RIGHT? NO. BECAUSE IF YOU ARE, I'M GOING TO TAKE THEM. YEAH. PUT HIM RIGHT BACK ON HER MOTION.
HER, HER HER MODIFICATION TO THE AGENDA TO TAKE IT OFF TO REMOVE HIM NEVER WENT ANYWHERE. OKAY.
THAT'S WHY IT'S WE'RE IT'S BEING DISCUSSED RIGHT NOW. NOTHING HAPPENED. NOTHING. WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT, RIGHT? HAD WE NOT TALKED ABOUT IT YET, IT WOULD HAVE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE MY MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE WAIVER. SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, SIR. MR. ROSENDO PACHECO. HI. ROSENDO PACHECO, I, ME AND COREY SERVE ON THE BOARD. I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT ME ATTENDING THE ATTORNEY ANSWERED IT. SO I NO LONGER HAVE A STATEMENT TO MAKE. BUT I SAID HERE, WHEN WE WANTED TO GO AND INCREASE $35, I SAID, LET'S HAVE A WAIT, LET'S HAVE A GRACE PERIOD. EVERYBODY SAID BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. NOW HERE WE'RE RUNNING INTO THE PROBLEMS OF NOT HAVING A GRACE THREE DAY GRACE PERIOD. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WATER BECAUSE IT AFFECTED ME. OH, I WAS TRYING TO CATCH UP. NO, BECAUSE HE HE ANSWERED. HE ANSWERED. HE ANSWERED. NO, HE HE WE WERE ASKING QUESTIONS. I CAN WE HOLD CAN WE HOLD? MR. MR. PACHECO YOU CAN, YOU CAN CAN YOU HOLD YOUR COMMENT? YEAH. CAN YOU HOLD YOUR COMMENT. YES. OKAY. YEAH. SO OKAY. COMMENT I HAVE WITH THIS. THE ATTORNEY ANSWERED IT. SO I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT DO I NEED TO FILL ANOTHER. NO, NO I'LL MODIFY OKAY. YEAH. MISS BARBARA IS. I GUESS IT'S BEEN REALLY HARD OUT THERE. MY NAME IS BARBARA CLOWDUS. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ANY STEAM COMING OUT OF MY EARS, BUT THE ONE POINT THAT I THINK YOU ARE MISSING IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS A LEVEL OF TRUST BETWEEN YOUR RESIDENTS AND OUR VILLAGE COUNCIL. IT'S JUST LIKE OUR WATER SUPPLY. AND WE GOT A
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NOTICE THAT THERE'S SOME NASTY CHEMICALS IN OUR WATER, BUT IT'S UP TO THE CONSUMER WHETHER THEY WANT TO DRINK OUT OF THE TAP OR GET BOTTLED WATER, BUT IT DOESN'T CAUSE A PANIC TO FOR, FOR CUSTOMERS. AND T BECAUSE THEY TRUST THIS ADMINISTRATION AND THESE OFFICIALS. IT'S THE SAME THING WITH YOU ARE. IN MY MIND, THERE IS NO WAY FOR YOU TO EXCUSE YOURSELF FROM HAVING A SCHOOL THAT PEOPLE THINK OF AS A TRADITIONAL SCHOOL OR LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SCHOOL THAN. A REGULAR SCHOOL. IF THERE ISN'T ANYBODY TELLING THEM THE DIFFERENCE AND WHAT TO EXPECT, THAT'S ALL. THERE'S GOING TO BE A LEVEL OF TRUST AND WHETHER. I WORRY ABOUT IT, IT LOOKS AS IF. BY APPROVING IT CARTE BLANCHE WITHOUT A LOT OF RESEARCH AND DEEP DIVING, THAT IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE STUDENTS, WHAT THEIR EDUCATION IS. AND TO ME, THAT IS ABDICATING YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. WHAT ARE WE APPROVING? IN YOUR MIND? WHAT ARE WE APPROVING? WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP COREY ON THE OR CHRIS ON THE BOARD OR NOT? WELL, WE HAVE THAT RIGHT TO DO THAT. YEAH OKAY. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SCHOOL AND EDUCATION AND ALL THAT STUFF BECAUSE THAT'S NOT OUR THAT'S OUR, OUR LAND THAT YOU MADE. AND SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAY IT'S UP TO THE PARENTS, IT IS UP TO THE PARENTS. SO IT IS. YEAH, SURE. YEAH. BUT THERE IS A TRUST THERE THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS THE PARENTS TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS FOR THEIR STUDENTS. SO JUST REMEMBER YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO THE RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? NO, SIR. NO MORE COMMENTS OKAY. MOTION. MOTION MADE. I JUST WANT TO SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK.REAL QUICK. COUNCIL, REAL QUICK. I'M OKAY, I'M OKAY. I'M AN EDUCATOR. I'M SPECIAL. SPECIAL? I'VE BEEN AN EDUCATOR FOR SINCE 2007, OKAY? I'VE DEALT WITH MAJORITY OF MY STUDENTS HAVE BEEN SPECIAL EDUCATION. AND YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS, THE ESOL S OKAY. THAT THAT'S THAT'S MY FEEL. I, I, I WORK AT A SCHOOL RIGHT NOW. IT'S EVERYTHING IS TOTALLY ONLINE. WE HAVE CERTIFIED TEACHERS THAT THAT ARE IN THE CLASSROOM TO GIVE INSTRUCTION MAJORITY OF OUR STUDENTS BECAUSE IT'S A SCHOOL ALL COMPUTER BASED. WE DEVELOPED THIS SYSTEM, GOT ALL THE DATA, EVERYTHING. THOSE KIDS THAT COME TO US, THIS ALTERNATIVE SCHOOL, WHEN THEY COME TO US, THEY HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT OF REGULAR SCHOOLS. THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL. AND THE PROBATION OFFICER MAKE THEM COME. OKAY. SO THERE ARE PLENTY, PLENTY SCHOOLS THAT HAVE THE KIDS ARE ON COMPUTERS ALL DAY. WHEN I TAKE OVER A CLASS, I OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GET A BREAK. BUT EVERYBODY KNOW ME. THEY CALL ME THE MEAN TEACHER BECAUSE THERE'S NO TALKING IN MY CLASS SO THEY UNDERSTAND YOU CAN TAKE A BREAK. AND IF YOU NEED TO TAKE A YOU WANT TO TALK TO YOUR FRIEND. I SHOULDN'T HEAR YOUR BUSINESS. SO WHETHER WHETHER IT'S AN HOUR AND A HALF, WHETHER IT'S FIVE HOURS, BECAUSE OUR KIDS COME, THEY HAVE TWO SESSIONS AM, PM, FIVE, FIVE HOURS. OKAY. I BRING PLENTY OF FOOD SO THEY THEY DON'T GET BORED AND THEY EAT. BUT THE THING IS, WHEN THEIR PARENTS BROUGHT THEM TO US, THEY UNDERSTOOD THE PROGRAM. THEY UNDERSTOOD. WE ARE GOVERNED BY PALM BEACH COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE'RE GOVERNED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND, YOU KNOW, CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE HIT MORE THAN ONE TIME. OKAY, SO I SAID ALL THAT TO SAY THIS. WHATEVER YOUR PROGRAM, YOU GAVE US EVERYTHING. I FEEL WE I FOUND OUT SOME RESEARCH THAT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS. NONETHELESS YOU CAME HERE AND I'M SAYING THIS OPENLY. HE CAME HERE AND HE GAVE US THE GIST OF THE COMPANY OF THE SCHOOL. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THIS IS
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WHAT IT COST. AND HE GAVE US ALL OF THAT. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY WHO'S SAYING WHAT. BUT I'M GOING TO SAY THIS. IT IS UP TO EVERY PARENT, EVERY GUARDIAN, TO BE IN CHARGE OF THEIR CHILD'S EDUCATION. IF YOU IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A REGULAR DIPLOMA, I YOU YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT EVERY EVERY STUDENT, EVERY PARENT NEED TO FIND OUT FOR THEMSELVES IF THIS PROGRAM WORKS FOR MY CHILD. SAME THING WITH MY SCHOOL. SOME OF OUR KIDS ARE NOT A FIT, SO WE HAVE TO LET THEM GO. AND ARE THEY LET US GO. SO I JUST WANT US TO BE CLEAR, THIS BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR LOOKING OUT FOR THE FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS, OKAY? THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY. AND I THINK WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB IN LOOKING OUT FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS. ARE WE GOING TO PLEASE EVERYBODY? NO. ARE WE GOING TO MAKE SOME PEOPLE UPSET AND SAD? YES. AND THAT THAT COMES WITH THE ROLE. BUT I JUST WANT TO BE VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT THIS BOARD TAKES IT VERY SERIOUS ABOUT EVERY PERSON FROM THE LITTLE BABY TO THE TO, TO THE OLD PERSON, TO THE SENIOR CITIZEN. I'M OLD TO OUR SENIOR CITIZEN. OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AND MY COLLEAGUE SAID AT THE END SAID, LET'S BE CAREFUL HOW WE TREAT PEOPLE. LET'S BE VERY CAREFUL HOW WE TREAT OUR VOLUNTEERS AND THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER. WE ALL VOLUNTEER IN SOME CAPACITY OR ANOTHER, WHETHER IT'S FROM FROM OUR STAFF, THEY MAY NOT GET FEEL THEY GET PAID ENOUGH. LET'S BE CAREFUL HOW WE HANDLE THEM. LET'S BE CAREFUL HOW WE HANDLE OUR MAYOR IN OUR OUR OUR VILLAGE MANAGER AND OUR LAWYER. LET'S BE VERY CAREFUL, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. WHETHER WE SIT AT THIS BOARD OR WE SIT OUT IN THE AUDIENCE, LET'S BE VERY CAREFUL. AND IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF CONFUSION, ALWAYS GET AN UNDERSTANDING. CLEAR YOUR MIND SO YOU CAN HEAR WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING. IF YOU HAVE A IF YOU ARE ALREADY DETERMINED IN YOUR MIND, YOU WON'T EVER HEAR ANYTHING. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN. WOMAN. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? NO, I VICE MAYOR. VICE MAYOR. I WANT TO ASK CHRIS SOMETHING. I KNOW THAT YOU. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO DO AN OPEN HOUSE AND INVITE THE COMMUNITY IN TO SEE, JUST LIKE YOU DID FOR US, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, TELL THEM YOUR STORY. WHAT YOU'VE DONE AT FOOTBALL FARMS. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS WHAT YOU KNOW. EVERYONE HAS A PATHWAY AND IT'S UP TO THE PARENTS WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR YOUR CHILD OR NOT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S MY JOB, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK OUT FOR JAMES OR VICE VERSA. BUT I JUST WANT YOU. I WANT YOU TO, LIKE, BE INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY. TELL US YOUR STORY. SHOWCASE. OBVIOUSLY, I KNOW YOUR STORY. I'VE SEEN IT, LIVED IT. BUT SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVEN'T. SO IS THERE ANY WAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO DO AN OPEN HOUSE LIKE, HEY, THIS, THIS IS OUR STORY, TELL YOUR STORY. THANK YOU. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'M NOT A MICROPHONE GUY. WE'VE WE'VE HELD TWO OPEN HOUSES. ONE WE SCHEDULED WITH DEBBIE BEFORE. THE SECOND ONE DIDN'T GO SO WELL BECAUSE OF THE MOSQUITOES, BUT HAPPY TO DO IT AGAIN AND JUST HAPPY TO BE A VOLUNTEER HERE.AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR LETTING ME BE A VOLUNTEER AND BE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AND BE HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY, LET'S SIMPLIFY THIS. WE'RE NOT HERE TO APPROVE HIS ACADEMY. WE'RE HERE TO LEASE HIM A FACILITY, AND WE'RE HERE TO GET THEM. TO TAKE OUT TO, TO VOTE ON. AND BEING ABLE TO SIT ON THE BOARD. THAT'S IT. NOTHING ELSE. ALL THIS OTHER STUFF MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. HE OWNS HIS BUSINESS. HE'S GOING TO RUN HIS BUSINESS. I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU HOW TO RUN YOUR BUSINESS. IF YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL, CONGRATULATIONS. IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT, THEN I GUESS YOU WON'T BE AROUND LONG. BUT I STILL WANT THAT CHECK EVERY MONTH. OKAY, SO? SO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES. WHO'S A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. YEAH.
COUNCILWOMAN PALMER, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING ON THAT BOARD. THANK YOU. BECAUSE IF SHE WERE GOING TO REMOVE YOU, I WAS GOING TO PUT
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YOU ON ONE OF US, YOU KNOW. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT UP, LAST ONE LAST ITEM AND I'LL TAKE[01:55:05]
THAT ONE. IT WAS NICE MEETING YOU BOYS. IT'S NOT NORMALLY THIS LIVELY. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT I WAS APPROACHED BY THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND VILLAGE HALL TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT. AND I HAD MENTIONED IT TO YOU ALL. YOU AND THE COUNCIL GAVE ME APPROVAL TO GO AHEAD AND GET AN APPRAISAL. THE PARCEL IS ABOUT 0.45 ACRES OF VACANT LAND, AND THE APPRAISAL THAT CAME IN FOR THE VACANT PROPERTY WAS $160,000. THE APPRAISER DOES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS, BASED UPON THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE APPRAISER DOES NOT KNOW WHAT OTHER RELATED EXPENDITURES THE OWNERS HAVE INCURRED. TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY, THIS PROJECT WAS PARTNERING WITH THE COUNTY'S COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA. THERE'S TWO SIGNS OUT THERE. YOU'LL SEE THE COUNTY SEAL, THE CRA AND ALL THAT. AND PLANNING WAS BASED UPON THE REGULATIONS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED WITHIN THAT INDIAN TOWN, CRA. ONCE THE VILLAGE BECAME INCORPORATED, THE INDIAN TOWN CRA WAS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. THE VILLAGE WAS IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING AND APPROVING THE COMPREHENSIVE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN, YOUR COMP PLAN, LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND YOUR ZONING DESIGNATIONS WITH THE ESTABLISHED USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE VILLAGE'S ZONING THAT WAS APPROVED. THIS PARCEL IS NOW WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN ZONING DISTRICT AND THE VILLAGE CORE. MIXED USE FUTURE LAND USE. THE PROJECT NAME HAS BEEN CHANGED TO PARKVIEW APARTMENTS. INITIALLY WAS PARKVIEW APARTMENTS AND WORKFORCE UNITS. OR WORK LIVE UNITS, AND SO THEY BEGAN THE PROCESS WITH THE VILLAGE THEY'D ALREADY BEEN THROUGH. YOU GOT TO REMEMBER, THEY'D ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THE CRA IN THE COUNTY. THEN THEY'RE PUT ON HOLD, IF YOU WILL. AND AGAIN, I GET IT. THE MARKET AT THAT TIME WAS NOT FAVORABLE. BUT THEN IN EARLY 2020, THEY BEGAN THEIR PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT PRE-APPLICATION MEETING, THE OWNER HAS TO HAVE A SITE PLAN.THEY NEED A SURVEY, THEY HAVE A PROFESSIONAL LAND PLANNER. THEY GET ENGINEERS INVOLVED, THEY GET PARKING ANALYSIS DONE, TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, ENGINEERING, DRAINAGE, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED THROUGH OUR CODE IN ORDER TO BE COMPLIANCE AND TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD FOR APPROVAL OR REVIEW BY THE COUNCIL. THEY WENT THROUGH AT LEAST SIX, IF NOT SEVEN, IF NOT MORE SUBMITTALS WITH THE STAFF AT THAT TIME. AND SO THEY WENT BACK AND FORTH FOR OVER TWO YEARS AND FINALLY RECEIVED THAT APPROVAL IN 2022. SO THEY HAVE SENT ME AN OFFER VIA EMAIL THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SELL THAT PARCEL TO THE VILLAGE AT A PRICE OF 375,000, TO RECOUP WHAT THEY HAVE PUT INTO THAT PROPERTY. INITIALLY THEY WERE LOOKING AT LIKE ABOUT 400,000 FOR THE PROPERTY, BUT THEY HAVE GIVEN US THEIR BEST AND FINAL OFFER. AND SO THEY WANT TO RECOUP THEIR COSTS, AS I SAID, FOR THEIR DUE DILIGENCE. SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS. ALL RIGHT. SO IN LAST YEAR THERE WAS A REFERENDUM FOR THE VOTERS OF MARTIN COUNTY TO APPROVE A ONE HALF CENT INFRASTRUCTURE SALES TAX THAT WAS INITIATED TO ACQUIRE CONSERVATION LANDS. MUNICIPALITIES ARE RECIPIENTS OF A PORTION OF THOSE PROCEEDS FROM THAT SALES TAX, AND WE ARE NOT RESTRICTED TO UTILIZE IT FOR CONSERVATION LAND, BUT WE DO HAVE TO USE IT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED PROJECTS. IT DOES ALLOW FOR LAND ACQUISITION, AND MR. VOSS CAN ELABORATE ON THAT OR NOT. HE HE HE'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT STATUTE. AND BEGINNING IN JANUARY OF 2025 IS WHEN IT WENT INTO PLACE. THE VILLAGE BEGAN RECEIVING THEIR PORTION OF THE SALES TAX, WHICH CAN FLUCTUATE FROM MONTH TO MONTH. BUT TO DATE, WE AVERAGE ABOUT 65,000 TO 75,000 A MONTH. SO IT'S DEPENDENT UPON SALES TAX. IT'S A IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED FORMULA, BUT IT ALSO TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE VILLAGE'S POPULATION. AND THEY ONLY DISTRIBUTE IT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. SO WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN OUR INITIAL DISTRIBUTION.
BUT WE ARE ANTICIPATING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, BASED ON THE ESTIMATES THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED BY THE STATE, THE VILLAGE WOULD GET ABOUT 900,000 ANNUALLY FOR THE TEN YEAR TIME FRAME. SO RIGHT NOW OUR PLAN IS TO FACTOR THOSE FUNDS INTO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS CURRENTLY OF DEVELOPING. AGAIN, IT HAS TO BE USED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. IT CANNOT BE USED FOR OPERATIONS, LAND BUYING PROPERTY FITS INTO THAT DESCRIPTION. AND I THINK
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FOR FUTURE EXPANSION OF THIS BUILDING, GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO THAT ROAD IN THE BACK BEHIND US HERE AND SQUARING THIS OFF, IF YOU WILL. AND THEN WE COULD LOOK AT THE FUTURE OF POSSIBLY ABANDONING THAT ROAD. I MEAN, THERE'S MANY POSSIBILITIES. THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY STILL IS RETAINING HIS INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY THAT RUNS ALONG THELMA WATERS HERE, AND HE PLANS ON REVISITING THAT SITE AND PUTTING APARTMENTS ON THERE. BUT WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN WE'VE GOTTEN SOME PRELIMINARY DESIGN PLANS FROM THEM, BUT WE'VE GOTTEN NOTHING CONCRETE. AND WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ENGAGED TOM AND PAT TO LOOK AT THESE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. SO THAT'S THAT'S AS YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD THE MAYOR ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION TALK ABOUT BUYING PROPERTY. AND I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXPAND, WE'RE GOING TO GROW. WE'RE SEEING WE'RE SEEING SOME OF THAT NOW. WE'VE GOT THE PLANS TO LOOK AT POSSIBLY RENOVATING THIS BUILDING. WE'LL GET THAT OUT AND BID OUT. IF YOU REMEMBER, WHEN WE PURCHASED THIS BUILDING, INITIALLY, WE PUT ASIDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THOSE RENOVATIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE. SO ONCE WE GET ON THE STREET WITH THE BID AND WE GET OUR PRICING BACK, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT WE MIGHT NEED. BUT RIGHT NOW, LIKE I SAID, THESE THESE FUNDS COMING IN HAVE NOT BEEN BUDGETED TO DATE BECAUSE WE WERE WAITING TO GET OUR CIP DONE, OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. THAT'S A QUESTION, COUNCILWOMAN, ON HOW MANY OF THE THINGS THAT HE'S ASKING TO BE REIMBURSED FOR DON'T NEED TO BE REDONE WHEN WE DO OUR HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE TYPICALLY WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT DEVELOPING A PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU HAVE THOSE EXPENSES AND THEN THEY'RE ONLY GOOD FOR WHEN YOU'RE DOING THAT PROJECT. SO HOW MANY OF THOSE THINGS THAT HE'S BEING ASKED TO BE REIMBURSED FOR, ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE OR HAVE ANY VALUE OF IN WHEN WE DO FUTURE RENOVATIONS? SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, PART OF THE REASON THAT THE APPRAISER STRUGGLED WITH THIS TO SOME EXTENT BECAUSE HE SAID NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN, WHEN YOU'RE APPRAISING A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT SOMEONE IS LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT FRACTURING AN EXISTING PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO ALL THE PLANNING THAT THEY HAD WAS FOR THIS L SHAPE. SO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO FRACTURE THEIR PROPERTY, IT MADE IT HARD, MAKES IT VERY HARD. SO THE PLANS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE, OBVIOUSLY THE SURVEY WOULD BE FOR THE WHOLE L SHAPE, THE STORM WATER WOULD BE FOR THE WHOLE L SHAPE, ETCETERA.SO THAT'S A THAT'S A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER. I MEAN, ANY THAT WE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD RE UTILIZE, WE WOULD DO THAT WORKING WITH OUR ENGINEER. IT IT ISN'T TYPICAL TO REIMBURSE SOMEBODY FOR EXPENSES THAT THEY HAVE INCURRED IN THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR PROPERTY.
THE $160,000 APPRAISAL. AND YOU'RE SAYING HE WOULD LIKE 375 FOR THE FOR A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, THE 0.45 ACRES. THAT'S WHAT WE GOT APPRAISED? YES, MA'AM. SO BUT IT APPRAISED AT 160. YES, MA'AM. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE THAN DOUBLE IN ORDER TO REIMBURSE HIM FOR EXPENSES THAT HE HAD PREVIOUSLY ON A POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. OKAY, I GOT TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
THANK YOU. I'M JUST THE MESSENGER. I'M SUPPOSED MAYOR. VICE MAYOR, DO WE HAVE A MAP OF THE PARCEL THAT WE'RE TRYING? IT'S. IT'S IN THIS APPRAISAL. LET ME GET TO IT. IT'S ON PAGE.
RIGHT OUTSIDE OUR BACK DOOR. I'M TRYING TO. I'M TRYING TO PICTURE, YOU KNOW, A PARADE HE WANTS 375, BUT IT WAS APPRAISED 160. I WAS THINKING, HEY, THE WHOLE ENTIRE L SHAPE. BUT NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THAT LITTLE, LITTLE PIECE, I'M LIKE. THAT'S. THAT'S WHY A VISION PERSON. I WANT TO SEE COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA I'M GONNA LOG IN TO ZOOM, TAKE OVER THE TV AND TRY TO POP IT UP THERE. GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES. SO WHEN WE REIMBURSE HIM IF WE DO THIS, HE WILL STILL BENEFIT FROM THE REIMBURSEMENT AND THE MONEY HE SPENT AS WELL. CORRECT. BECAUSE HE NEEDS WHAT HE HAD DONE FOR THE PIECE OF PROPERTY HE'S STILL
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KEEPING. THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT HE WILL GET APPROVAL. I MEAN, HE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT SAME PROCESS WITH THIS NEW SITE, GET A NEW SITE PLAN, GET A NEW STORMWATER ANALYSIS DONE, TRAFFIC, ETC. HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN. YEAH, HE ESSENTIALLY DOES. SO OKAY. SO. THIS IS OFF THE SUBJECT. BUT ON THE SUBJECT WE HAVE VACANT LAND THAT WE STILL OWN. CORRECT. THAT WE CAN'T SEEM TO THE ONE OVER OFF TRAIL DRIVE CIRCLE WHATEVER IT IS. TRAIL DRIVE RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT DRIVE. SO WE STILL OWN THAT LAND THAT WE'VE NOT SOLD AS OF YET, RIGHT? WE DO NOT HAVE THE HOLD BACK ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ACREAGE THAT WE THAT WE HAVE UP THE STREET, WHICH THE WAS UNFORTUNATELY PURCHASED ABOVE THE APPRAISED PRICE, BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE UTILITIES TO THAT SITE. SO IT'S AND IT HAS RESTRICTIONS, DEED RESTRICTIONS ON GAS STATIONS, CONVENIENCE STORES AND RESTAURANTS TO SOME EXTENT. SO FAST FOODS, FAST FOOD. SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO SELL THAT PROPERTY WITH ALL THE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE AND NOT BEING ABLE TO DO THAT. SO HOW MUCH ARE WE LOSING EVERY DAY WE KEEP THAT PROPERTY AND THEN WE WANT TO BUY. I UNDERSTAND WANTING TO BUY THE PROPERTY BEHIND US. DO WE NOT? ON THE TAX ROLL. YEAH, WE'RE JUST HOLDING IT OKAY. BUT CAN I CHIME IN HERE FOR A SECOND? THE PROPERTY ON WARFIELD BOULEVARD IS A PRIME PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE VILLAGE. GINA, WOULD YOU AGREE WITH ME ON THAT ONE? TOO MANY. OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO BUY IT? I MEAN, WE GET WE GET A BUILDING PROFESSIONAL RIGHT HERE. I, I DEALT WITH THIS. I WAS A CONSULTANT. I WAS SUPPOSED TO BUILD IT, HOPEFULLY, IF THEY WERE EVER BUILDING IT. SO THE PROPERTY IS ONLY IS GOOD AND VALUABLE IF YOU CAN DO SOMETHING WITH IT. SO IF I HAVE TO BUY THE ONE ON WARFIELD, I WOULD HAVE TO BUY IT AT A DISCOUNT BECAUSE I CANNOT UTILIZE THE PROPERTY RIGHT AWAY TODAY, TODAY. AND THAT'S IT'S AND IT'S A FACTOR ON SUCH AS WHAT WE'RE A PRIME PIECE. WOULD YOU WOULD YOU DISPUTE THAT IT'S A PRIME PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE VILLAGE. YES.IT IS ONE OF THE MOST PRIME PIECES OF PROPERTY ON THAT ONE. YOU'RE PUSHING IT ON. IT'S A PRIME LOCATION, I GIVE YOU THAT. BUT THERE IS A DEED RESTRICTION AND THEN WE'RE ASKING A LOT FOR IT. SO WE'RE NOT ABLE TO OFFLOAD THAT TO PUT MONEY BACK IN OUR COFFERS. YOU GOT TO BE PATIENT.
I'M WORKING ON PATIENCE. IT'S SUPPLY AND DEMAND. IF THE NUMBERS WERE RIGHT AND A DEVELOPER SUCH AS I OR MY CONSTITUENTS, IF WE COULD DEVELOP IT AND MAKE SENSE RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD BE MORE VALUABLE THAN IF WE HAVE TO WAIT. JUST COMMON SENSE. IF YOU HAVE TO WAIT, HOWEVER. OKAY, LET'S GO BACK. I GOT MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED. THIS LAND BACK HERE WAS NOT FOR SALE. THEY HAD EVERY INTENTION OF BUILDING THEIR PROJECT, EVERY INTENTION. FROM DAY ONE, MY FIRST DAY IN OFFICE. AND PAT IS MY WITNESS. I TOOK HOWARD OUT THERE AND I SAID, LOOK AROUND, GO TO THE GO TO THE POWERS AND BUY THIS BUILDING. GO TO OMAR AND ASK THEM TO ABANDON THAT PROJECT SO WE CAN HAVE THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE. AND THIS WILL BE VILLAGE HALL FOR YEARS AND DECADES TO COME. SO AFTER. TWO PLUS YEARS OF PUSHING AND PUSHING AND PUSHING AND PUSHING, I WAS FINALLY ABLE TO CONVINCE THE PARTNERS THAT HAVE NEVER, EVER SOLD A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN. NEVER. AND THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS. I CONVINCED THEM THAT THIS WAS THE RIGHT THING FOR THEM TO DO FOR INDIAN TOWN. NOW, OF COURSE, THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF MONEY INVESTED IN THAT PROJECT. AND TO GET AN IDEA, WOULD YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO DO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND THEN ABANDON THE WHOLE THING? TO OFFER THAT PROPERTY TO THE VILLAGE? IF WE DON'T TAKE THAT PROPERTY, IT'S GOING TO RESERVE IT. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SELL IT. THEY'RE ONLY SELLING IT BECAUSE THEY'RE SELLING IT TO US. SO FOR THEM TO COME OUT CLEAN ON THE PROPERTY AND NOT LOSE MONEY, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE
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WHERE THEY'RE AT. AND THAT'S THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER. OKAY. SO IS IT MORE THAN WHAT IT'S APPRAISED FOR? YES. BUT IS IT WORTH IT FOR US NOT TO TAKE IT? AND THEN WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO FIVE, TEN, 15 YEARS FROM NOW? GO DOWN THE STREET AND BUILD A TAJ MAHAL FOR $12 MILLION? I AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. THIS IS HOME RIGHT HERE. WE OWN THIS BUILDING, WE'RE GOING TO REMODEL IT, AND WE NEED TO HAVE THAT PROPERTY TO EXPAND IT AS THE VILLAGE GROWS. SO YOU CAN'T LOOK AT THE, THE, THE YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF THE SITUATION. SO IT'S UP. IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL. THEY WANT THIS OR THEY DON'T WANT IT. BUT THAT'S THAT STORY AND THAT'S HOW IT GOES. I'VE BEEN PUSHING THEM FOR OVER TWO YEARS JUST TO ABANDON THEIR PROJECT BACK THERE AND SELL US THAT PROPERTY, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. COUNCILWOMAN BROWN, I RESPECT THE FACT THAT YOU TALK TO THEM ABOUT BUYING THE PROPERTY. I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GROW. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE TWICE. WE OVERPAID FOR THAT PROPERTY MORE THAN IT WAS VALUED AT, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME MORE THAN IT'S APPRAISED AT. AND THEY'RE NOT DOING IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S A VILLAGE. I APPRECIATE THAT THAT MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT, BUT WE'RE DOING IT FOR THE DOLLAR YOU CAN GET. HE LOVES THE VILLAGE. I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THAT. HE DOES, BUT HE'S NOT DOING IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE VILLAGE. WELL, HE HAD I JUST DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE. I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY CONVERSATIONS, NOT JUST WITH OMAR, BUT WITH THE PARTNERS, THAT THEY WANTED TO BUILD THAT. AND THE ONLY REASON WHY THEY'RE NOT BUILDING IT IS BECAUSE I FINALLY CONVINCED THEM THAT THEY NEEDED TO SELL THAT PROPERTY TO US. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT BUILDING IT. END OF STORY. SO WE'VE BEEN THEY'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH WITH THE NUMBERS. THEY WANTED A LOT MORE THAN THAT FOR IT. IT WAS OVER 450. IT WAS NORTH OF 450. OKAY. AND WE GOT THEM DOWN, GOT THEM DOWN, GOT THEM DOWN. AND THEN FINALLY OUR VILLAGE MANAGER AND DANIEL. BROUGHT IT DOWN TO WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW AT 375. SO PERSONALLY I THINK IT'S A GOOD IT'S, IT'S MAYBE WE'RE OVERPAYING FOR IT, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE SAVING IN THE LONG RUN BECAUSE GOING OUT AND BUYING ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY AT A LATER DATE AND BUILDING A BUILDING ON IT, WE ALREADY HAVE A BUILDING HERE, UNLESS WE WANT TO HAVE CITY HALL SCATTERED ALL THROUGHOUT THE VILLAGE. AND TO ME IT MAKES SENSE. IT'S MADE SENSE FROM DAY ONE. YES, MA'AM. CAN WE COUNTER THE OFFER? OKAY. I MEAN, CAN WE SUGGEST IT? I MEAN, BECAUSE I'M. I WAS THINKING IN MY HEAD, OKAY, THE L-SHAPE, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO EXPLAIN TO OUR RESIDENTS? YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY OVERPAID. THAT'S JUST SITTING THERE EVERY TIME WE GO BY THERE, YOU KNOW, CAN WE COUNTER AND SEE IF THEY TAKE IT? YOU CAN ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YEAH, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THAT THAT. RIGHT. WELL, WOULD WE PAY FOR THAT LOT ONE POINT. WHAT WAS IT, 1.4, 1.1.45, 1.45 OFF TOP OF MY HEAD. AND WE GOT IT ON THE MARKET FOR 3.25. OKAY. AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO PEOPLE THAT CAN BRING RIGHT HERE TO THAT PODIUM THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. THE ONLY THING THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IS INVEST IN $3.25 MILLION IN HAVING TO SIT ON IT FOR TWO YEARS. OKAY. BUT I GUARANTEE YOU, ONCE HE STARTS PUTTING UP WALLS AT THAT WATER PLANT, ONCE PEOPLE START SEEING THE WALLS GOING UP, YOU GOT YOU GOT TO REMEMBER. LISTEN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE BEEN IN THIS TOWN ANY LENGTH OF TIME, YOU'VE BEEN HERE, YOU'VE BEEN HERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN HERE, BUT I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 30, 33 YEARS. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GROW 25 YEARS AGO. ALL THE STUFF WAS COMING AND THEN IT WENT AWAY. BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD NOW, DRIVING THROUGH TOWN, DRIVING DOWN, DOWN FROM L, DRIVING THROUGH YOUR PROJECTS AND PRETTY SOON DRIVING THROUGH YOUR NEXT PROJECT. GUESS WHAT? THIS IS REAL. THIS IS REAL AND THIS IS HAPPENING SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT. PEOPLE KNOW THAT. AND ONCE THOSE WALLS START GOING UP. AND THAT'S WHY I. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I TOLD YOU, PAT, LET'S GET THE BUILDING STARTED. I DON'T CARE IF YOU JUST PUT THE[02:15:03]
EXTERIOR UP, EVEN IF THERE'S NOTHING IN IT. LET PEOPLE SEE THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT LOT WILL SELL. THAT LOT WILL SELL FAST FOR MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IT. SO LET'S TAKE THAT LOT OUT OF THE EQUATION, BECAUSE I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A BAD BUY, IT'S GOING TO TURN OUT TO BE A BLESSING IN DISGUISE. THIS BUILDING IS HERE.WE'RE HERE. WE'RE GOING TO STAY HERE. WE HAVE TO ADD ON TO HERE. SO IF WE HAVE TO BITE THE BULLET FOR 120 OR 100 AND 40 OR $150,000, THEN, THEN THAT'S WHAT IT IS. OKAY? YOU GOT TO BITE THE BULLET FOR IT. AND IT'S CHEAPER THAN WAITING AND GOING SOMEPLACE ELSE AND STARTING ALL OVER AGAIN. SO. YES, MA'AM. GO AHEAD. I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBILITY THEY WOULD DO A LAND SUBORDINATION TO US, OR A LONG LEASE IF THEY'RE GOING TO. ARE THERE ANY ALTERNATIVES? CAN WE GET THEM IN HERE TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT OUR OPTIONS MIGHT BE? WHY CAN'T THEY DO A 99 YEAR LEASE FOR US? WHY CAN'T THEY? YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME ALTERNATIVE WAY OF DOING THIS WITHOUT HAVING TO SPEND OVER A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS OVER OR ALMOST A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS OVER WHAT THE APPRAISED VALUE IS. WHEN WE JUST GOT THROUGH SAYING IN THIS MEETING THAT WE'RE $190,000 BELOW WHERE WE NEED TO BE. I LOVE THE IDEA OF EXPANDING RIGHT HERE. I THOUGHT BUYING THAT LOT OVER THERE WAS THE DUMBEST THING ANYBODY EVER DID. I STILL DO, ESPECIALLY AT THE AT THE PRICE WE PAID FOR IT. I'M A REALTOR, SO APPRAISAL MEANS SOMETHING TO ME, AND I, I, I THINK WE NEED TO EXPAND. I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT ABOUT THAT, BUT I THINK WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY LOOKED AT EVERY SINGLE OPTION. I'D LIKE TO HAVE DANIEL COME IN AND TALK TO US ABOUT IF THERE'S ANY OTHER OPTIONS. I KNOW DANIEL, I KNOW HIM PERSONALLY. I'VE DONE BUSINESS WITH HIM, BUT I WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME COMING IN. HE'S IN ISRAEL. OH, OKAY. WELL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE TEAMS ZOOM. MAYBE WE GET, YOU KNOW, GET SOME, SEE IF THERE'S ANY ALTERNATIVES. IF THEY. I KNOW, I KNOW THAT GROUP QUITE WELL DONE BUSINESS WITH THEM AS I'VE SAID AND TRIED TO DO BUSINESS WITH THEM. LIKE YOU SAID, THEY DON'T SELL ANYTHING. THEY DON'T. BUT BECAUSE I HAD SOMEBODY THAT WANTED TO BUY THEIR GAS STATION PROJECT AND HE WOULDN'T SELL IT. SO MY QUESTION IS, WHY NOT JUST DO WHAT HE DOES WITH EVERYBODY ELSE AND LEASE US THE PROPERTY LONG TERM AND THEREFORE WE STILL GET THE BENEFIT. WE HAVE A 99 YEAR LEASE. WE DON'T PAY ALL THE MONEY OUT AT ONE TIME. AND HE BENEFITS EVEN MORE THAN THE 375. WADE, YOU LOOK, YOU KNOW LIKE YOU'VE GOT A COMMENT. YEAH I ONLY. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN YOU CAN HAVE REAL ESTATE RELATIONSHIPS BUYING, LEASING AND SO ON. KEEP IN MIND THOUGH AND I MEAN THIS AS A COMPLIMENT FOR THEM. THEY ARE VERY THEY'RE VERY SOPHISTICATED, VERY SHREWD FOLKS. IT IS NOT I MEAN THAT IN THE VERY BEST WAY IT THERE WILL NOT BE A WAY IN COMING UP WITH SOME ARRANGEMENT OR ANOTHER THAT SOMEHOW WILL SAVE MONEY. I GUESS WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, YOU KNOW, DOING SOME IMMEDIATE MONEY. UNDERSTOOD. HERE'S A AND THIS IS NOT ARGUING FOR OR AGAINST IT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES ARE OUT ON THE TABLE. KEEP IN MIND THAT, AS KAREN HAD MENTIONED, ONE OF THE OPTIONS FOR FUNDING FOR THIS ACQUISITION IS A POT OF MONEY THAT THE VILLAGE HAS NOT HAD AVAILABLE TO IT BEFORE, AND IT'S A POT OF MONEY THAT IS OF LIMITED APPLICABILITY. OKAY, IT CANNOT BE USED FOR OPERATIONS, IT CANNOT BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE. IT CANNOT BE USED TO SHORE UP THAT. WHAT WAS THAT 190 THAT ON, 190,000 IN OPERATIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU, YOU KNOW, TREAT IT BADLY AND JUST SPEND IT ON WHATEVER. I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO US THAT THIS FITS INTO AS A VIABLE PURCHASE WITH THOSE FUNDS. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. YEAH. THE PURCHASE. PURCHASE OF THIS WAITING FOR US TO FIND AN APPLICABLE WAY OF SPENDING. IS THIS A GRANT? IS THIS WHAT IS THIS? NO, MA'AM. IT WAS A SPECIAL REFERENDUM THAT THE COUNTY TOOK THE ONE HALF CENT SALES TAX FOR CONSERVATION LANDS. THAT WAS HAD TO BE APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. AND IT WAS. AND IT DID NOT GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL JANUARY 1ST. SO WE HAD ALREADY DONE THE BUDGET, WE'D ALREADY DONE OUR NUMBERS. WE HADN'T REALLY COUNTED ON IT, AND WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW THE VOTE WAS GOING TO GO. AND THAT HAPPENED BACK IN AUGUST OR NOVEMBER. ONE OF THE TWO OF THOSE. OH, I HAVE A QUESTION. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO APPLY FOR A GRANT, SAY WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND WE WERE GOING TO APPLY FOR A GRANT TO BUILD AN ADDITION ONTO THE BUILDING, OKAY. WE'D BE ABLE TO DO THAT, RIGHT. APPLY FOR THAT GRANT. WE OWN THE PROPERTY. IF WE WERE LEASING THE PROPERTY, WOULD BE
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WOULD WE BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THAT SAME GRANT AND ACTUALLY ANSWER THAT? IT IT IS A VERY COMMON CONDITION OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF GRANTS FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN VARIOUS WAYS, FOR DEP GRANTS FOR PARKS, FOR EXAMPLE. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER ONES WHERE IT IS IT IS A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SUFFICIENT INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY TO BE ABLE TO ENCUMBER IT, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE FOR PUBLIC USE FOR ALL TIME, WHICH BASICALLY THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN HAVE THAT IS TO HAVE OWNERSHIP OF IT. SO IT IS NOT A UNIVERSAL REQUIREMENT, BUT IT'S A VERY COMMON REQUIREMENT. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE OWNERSHIP TO BE ABLE TO GO FOR A NUMBER OF TYPES OF GRANTS. NOT ALL, BUT CAN I JUST SPEAK IN REFERENCE TO THE SIX I BUILT THEM, CASA BELLA, AND I WORKED WITH THEM PROBABLY FOR YEARS ON THIS PROJECT. PARKLAND JUST EXCHANGE NOTES WITH TOM. THEY PROBABLY SPENT IN ENGINEERING SITE PLAN. SURVEYS, ARCHITECTURALES THEY PROBABLY SPENT IN EXCESS OF 200,000 TO DATE. WHEN YOU WERE ASKING THE QUESTION TO GET THAT APPROVAL FOR WHAT THEY DID TO THIS STATE. AND I GUESS YOU GRANTED CONDITIONAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL ON THE SITE. I'LL SPEAK TO THE I KNOW THEM WELL. LIKE I SAID, I'LL GIVE THEM A CALL TOMORROW AND I'LL LET THEM CONTACT MAYBE TARYN OR MAYBE YOURSELF, CARMINE, AND SEE WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE. I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK AT THIS POINT THAT THAT IS NECESSARY. NO, BUT I'M JUST TO RELAY THAT THEY SPENT SUBSTANTIAL, SUBSTANTIAL MONEY TO GET TO THE POINT THAT THEY'RE AT. I'M AWARE OF I PERSONALLY AM AWARE OF WHAT THEY SPENT. RIGHT. OKAY. I THAT'S INFORMATION I'M NOT GOING TO PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT MY BUSINESS TO DO THAT. WELL, APPARENTLY THEY SPENT $215,000 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ASKING US TO REIMBURSE $160,000 APPRAISAL $215,000 IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 375. SO THEY'RE TRYING TO RECOUP $215,000. THE MATH IS THE MATH. IT'S NOT A SECRET, RIGHT? BECAUSE OF THE REFERENDUM MONEY, THE TAX MONEY THAT CAN'T BE USED IN ANY OTHER WAY. NOT REALLY. NOT RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT WE CAN USE IT FOR. DOES THE PURCHASE OF THAT PROPERTY FALL WITHIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF IMPROVEMENT? AND WOULD THE BUILDING OKAY. SO YEAH, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO USE THAT PROPERTY FOR DOES FALL WITHIN THAT. THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR, FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT MUNICIPALITIES CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR. YES. OKAY. AND THAT COULD INCLUDE RAW LAND OR PARKING LOT OR WHAT HAVE YOU IN THE SHORT OR MEDIUM TERM TAX IS ONGOING. AND YOU SAID TEN, TEN, TEN, TEN, TEN. YOU SAID WE'RE GETTING 65 TO 75,000 A MONTH OFF OF THAT 900, ROUGHLY. BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN OUR FIRST QUARTERLY PAYMENT. SO 900,000 DIVIDED BY 12. BUT OF COURSE IT DIDN'T START TILL JANUARY. SO YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO SEE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, JANUARY THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF COLLECTIONS. OKAY. SO THAT CHANGES THINGS A LITTLE BIT. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. I ABSOLUTELY HATE PAYING MORE THAN SOMETHING'S WORTH. BUT IN THIS CASE THERE IS A HIGHER AND, YOU KNOW, BETTER USE FOR THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS YOU KNOW, IT WOULD IT WILL APPRAISE FOR MORE WHEN IT'S PUT TO THIS HIGHER AND BETTER USE, WHICH MEANS ALTHOUGH WE'RE GOING INTO IT AT A DEFICIT AT THE CURRENT VALUE, AS SOON AS WE IMPROVE IT, IT WILL EXCEED THE 375 WE PAY FOR IT. SO AT THAT POINT, HOW FAR OUT ARE WE LOOKING AT DOING THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT PROPERTY ONCE WE DO PURCHASE IT? IF WE DO, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST STARTING TO GET BUILDING PERMITS ISSUED FOR MERITAGE AND RYAN HOMES AND RIVER OAK. SO, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO THROUGH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, DINA AND HER APPROVAL PROCESS WHEN TARA LAGO STARTS GETTING THEIR PARKS AND THINGS TOGETHER, THEY'RE GOING TO START GIVING, TURNING THOSE OVER TO THE VILLAGE AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. SAME THING WITH THE ROADS AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE NEEDS. AND AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE WASTEWATER PLANT AND THE WATER PLANT, WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN MAKE THOSE EXPANSIONS. BUT RIGHT HERE IN VILLAGE HALL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT SAME SAME THING. WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE UTILITY BILLING CLERKS AT SOME POINT. WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE. I[02:25:03]
MEAN, MICHAEL TELL YOU, HE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, I GET I GUESS MY, MY LET ME LET ME NARROW MY QUESTION A LITTLE BIT IN ORDER FOR THIS TO MAKE ANY SENSE FINANCIALLY, WE HAVE TO IMPROVE THE PROPERTY FAIRLY QUICKLY INSTEAD OF SITTING ON IT. OTHERWISE IT'S JUST A BIG EXPENDITURE. SO ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE SEEING AN IMPROVEMENT IN, YOU KNOW, POSSIBILITY IN A YEAR, 18 MONTHS, THREE YEARS? WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? OH GOSH. THAT'S A THAT'S A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER. I MEAN BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE YOU YOU JUST SAID THE MONEY'S COMING IN REGULARLY FROM THIS ONE SALE. WE THAT WE CAN USE FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS. IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, BE BE MAKING THESE EXPENDITURES ON IMPROVING THE PROPERTY, WHICH WILL THEN CAUSE IT TO APPRAISE FOR MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR IT, WHICH I CAN GET COMFORTABLE WITH, BUT I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE BUYING SOMETHING THAT WE SIT ON FOR 5 OR 6 YEARS. YEAH. I DON'T SEE YOU SITTING ON IT FOR 5 OR 6 YEARS. MY MINDSET IS ONCE THE DEAL IS DONE, ONCE WE TAKE OWNERSHIP OF IT, THEN WE'LL START WORKING ON TRYING TO GET GRANT TO ADD ON TO THIS BUILDING. YOU GOT TO REMEMBER THERE'S GOING TO COME A DAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THOSE BIG GRANTS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL AN UNDERPRIVILEGED VILLAGE, UNDERPRIVILEGED. ONCE, ONCE TERRA LAGO BUILDS OUT ONCE.GINO'S DONE WITH HIS PROJECT AND THE PROJECT ON FEMALE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S COMING AND THE BUSINESSES THAT COME IN THE INDUSTRIAL THAT'S COMING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO COME A DAY, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, YOU DON'T NEED US. WE NEED TO MOVE ON TO SOME OTHER TOWN.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE LAND THAT WE WANT TO PURCHASE. I THINK THIS IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE REST OF IT. AND IF WE HAVE A CHANCE TO PURCHASE THIS, WE OUGHT TO TAKE IT, BECAUSE IF NOT, WHAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE TO IT? WHERE ARE YOU GOING? TO PUT VILLAGE HALL. WHERE IS IT GOING TO GO? WHERE ARE YOU GOING? TO BUY A PIECE OF LAND. AND YOU DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO OVERPRICED LAND? EVERYTHING'S OVERPRICED RIGHT NOW. EVERYTHING IS OVERPRICED. WHEN THIS BECAME A VILLAGE, IT BECAME OVERPRICED. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME TACKLING AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR ATTAINABLE HOUSING. IT'S NOT THE PRICE OF THE HOUSE, IT'S THE PRICE OF THE LAND. AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE IN THE VILLAGE. SO IF I MAY, TO GO BACK TO YOUR POINT, AND THIS JUST POPPED IN MY HEAD, SO I APOLOGIZE. BUT ONE OF THE RENOVATIONS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT FOR THIS BUILDING WAS REVAMPING YOUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS PARTICULARLY, AND MOVING INTO THE SUITE NEXT DOOR. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT IMPROVEMENTS IMMEDIATELY, THEN I THINK WE CAN START. IF ONCE WE ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY, START LOOKING AT BUILDING A COUNCIL CHAMBER, THAT WOULD HAVE THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL NEED, THE, YOU KNOW, HAVING DUCT TAPE TYPE PUTTING WIRES ON THE FLOOR IS REALLY NOT CONDUCIVE. YOU KNOW, IT'S A NEED. YES. BUT I MEAN, IF YOU YOU COULD HAVE A TRUE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT DOING RIGHT AWAY ON ON FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH WE WOULD NEED, HAVE A REAL COUNCIL CHAMBER AND PARKING, SECURE PARKING. YEAH. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE WE'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT. WE JUST HAVEN'T GONE DOWN THAT PATH BECAUSE WE WERE RESTRICTED TO WHAT WE HAD. RIGHT. TO YOUR POINT, FOR ME IN PARTICULAR, THIS SUITS ME JUST FINE. I DON'T NEED A NEW CHAMBER. WHAT I THINK WE DO NEED IN THE FUTURE IS, YOU KNOW, MORE PLACE FOR THE STAFF TO DO THEIR JOBS AND AN INCREASED AREAS FOR THE WORKING FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE BUILDING. SO. OKAY, I, I LOVE THAT IDEA. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I'LL JUST SIT RIGHT HERE. I'M GOOD. WHAT I WANT TO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE MAYOR'S SAYING THERE ARE GRANTS AVAILABLE, AND HE'S CORRECT. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WE'RE PRIMED FOR THOSE BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT WANTS US TO MAKE IT AS THE YOUNGEST NEW MUNICIPALITY IN THE STATE. AND SO THEY ARE OFFERING A LOT OF HELP. AND THAT WILL GO AWAY ONCE THE BOTTOM LINE INCREASES. THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE SENSE FOR ME, FOR THIS, IS TO MAKE SOME SORT OF A COMMITMENT AND SOME SORT OF A TIMELINE ON WHEN WE'RE GOING TO DO THE IMPROVEMENTS. BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY FOR THIS TO END UP
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BEING, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SAY ALL WE WANT TO THAT BUYING THAT LAND INCREASES, YOU KNOW, INCREASES THE VALUE. BUT IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT, THEN WE'VE JUST GOT ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE'RE SITTING ON. THAT HAS POTENTIAL AND POTENTIAL DOESN'T PAY OUR BILLS. SO I WOULD LIKE SOME SORT OF I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME SORT OF PLANNING ON IF WE BUY THIS PROPERTY, WHAT'S IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING, HOW WE ARE JUSTIFYING TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE NEED THIS SPACE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I, I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE FUTURE WE'LL NEED THIS SPACE. BUT DO WE NEED THE SPACE RIGHT NOW? I'M NOT SURE. DO WE NEED TO BUY THE PROPERTY SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SPACE LATER? PROBABLY. BUT IT HAS TO MAKE SENSE TO ME. IMMEDIACY IS IMPORTANT TO ME. WE HAVE TONS OF PROPERTIES SITTING IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE HAVE ARE HOLDING HOSTAGE WITH. THE PRICES ARE SO HIGH THAT WE CAN'T GET IT DEVELOPED, BUT THEN THEY DON'T WANT ANYONE ANNEXED IN THAT'S READY TO DO SOMETHING NOW. AND THE FACT IS, WE NEED PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING SOMETHING NOW. AS THE MAYOR SAID IN THE PAST, WE NEED I'M NOT DONE. WE NEED THINGS DONE NOW AND WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN. I DON'T LIKE SPECULATION.I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY WANTS US TO SPECULATE WITH OUR DOLLARS. SO I WANT TO KNOW IF WE GO OUT ON A LIMB AND SPEND THIS MONEY WITH. THE PLAN IS SURE. WELL, IT NEEDS TO BE MORE CONCRETE. OKAY. OKAY, LET ME ASK YOU THIS. AND I KNOW YOU SAID THIS BEFORE, SO FORGIVE ME.
WHAT ELSE CAN THIS BE USED FOR? THIS ONE AND A HALF CENT STATUE. IT GOES IN TO TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS, DRAINAGE, STORM INFRASTRUCTURE, MONIES AND LAND. WE ALREADY HAVE A NEED FOR ALL OF THAT. YEAH, YEAH, IT'S. YEAH, IT'S A WHOLE LIST OF DIFFERENT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. OKAY. SO WHICH WE NEED ON ALMOST EVERY ON AND ALMOST EVERYTHING. YEAH I MEAN IS IT, IT HAS A TEN YEAR TEN YEAR LIFESPAN. AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT IS USING IT FOR UTILITY FOR UTILITY PLANTS NEED THAT DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT. BUT I REALLY HATE TO SAY IT. EVEN 900,000 A YEAR WOULD BE A DROP IN THE BUCKET. YEAH. OH, YEAH. ON ALL OF THAT. YEAH. OUR GREATEST OPTION ON UTILITIES IS GOING TO BE OTHER PLACES WE LOOK. YEAH. WELL BUT THIS IS, IT IS GOOD TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE THIS REVENUE COMING IN. AND THAT IT'S GOT A LONGEVITY TO IT.
REOCCURRING REVENUE IS IMPORTANT EVEN IF IT'S NOT RELATIVE TO THE EXPENSES THAT ARE NECESSARY.
IT'S STILL NICE TO HAVE THAT REOCCURRING INCOME. AND IT'S THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL AT THIS POINT IS THAT WE HAVE THAT REVENUE, THAT WE HAVE A LIMITED ABILITY TO SPEND. BUT I THINK I WANT TO BE ABLE TO TELL THE COMMUNITY WHAT THE PLAN IS. WE'RE NOT JUST PURCHASING A PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO. I LOVE SOME NEGOTIATION. PUT YOUR HAT ON AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET IT DOWN A LITTLE LOWER. MAYBE GET PUT YOUR NEGOTIATOR HAT ON AND GET IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. LISTEN, I'VE TRIED, I REALLY DID. I'VE BEEN WORKING THIS FOR OVER TWO YEARS. OKAY? AND AS YOU KNOW THEM, THEY HAVE NEVER, NEVER SOLD A PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO. AND IF WE DON'T PURCHASE IT, ALL THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS BUILD A PROJECT BACK THERE THAT THEY'RE NOT LOOKING TO SELL IT. THEY'RE LOOKING TO SELL IT TO US IF WE WANT IT, BECAUSE WE NEED TO EXPAND.
LISTEN, THIS, THIS, THIS COMMUNITY IS EXPANDING. THIS COMMUNITY IS GROWING. OUR STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE TO GROW TO KEEP UP. AND THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT THEM. YOU KNOW, I WOULD IMMEDIATELY ASK THAT WE GET. PAPERWORK IN FOR GRANT FOR. I'D LIKE TO SEE A THREE STORY BUILDING ATTACHED TO THIS ONE. AND SO THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE A PLAN BECAUSE YOU GOT TO BE READY. YOU CAN'T BE WAY BEHIND IF THE BUILDING IS ALREADY THERE. EVEN IF YOU DON'T USE THE THIRD FLOOR, SOMEDAY YOU WILL. SO IT'S JUST JUST PLANNING YOU YOUR YOUR GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO GROW. AND WHERE'S IT GOING TO GROW INTO? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START HAVING WHAT WHERE I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO. WE NEED TO EXPAND OUR PARKS. SO WE NEED TO BUY PROPERTY FOR THAT. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. IF YOU'RE DONE, MAYOR, ARE YOU DONE FOR A MINUTE? GO AHEAD. WHAT KIND OF. COMMUNITY? FACILITY AND AVAILABILITY CAN WE BUILD INTO?
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THE NEW BUILDING? IS THERE ANY KIND OF PLAN TO HAVE PART OF IT UTILIZED FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE? WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T SAT DOWN AND BRAINSTORMED. I KNOW MISS RUSSELL'S IS OVER HERE, PROBABLY CHOMPING ON THE BIT. SHE WANTS A GYMNASIUM. YES. YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAD A PARK MASTER PLAN. OF COURSE, THIS PROPERTY WASN'T PART OF THAT PLAN. I WOULD VERY I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO HEAR YOUR VISION OF HOW IT CAN NOT ONLY BENEFIT THE GOVERNMENT, WHICH MAKES MY SKIN CRAWL TO TALK ABOUT, BUT HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE IT ALSO SERVICEABLE TO THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT WAY IT ALSO MAKES THE EXPENDITURE A LITTLE BIT MORE PALATABLE. SO WHAT ARE YOUR WHAT ARE YOUR VISIONS? DEBBIE RIZZO'S PARKS DIRECTOR FOR THE FOR THE RECORD. SO I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PARCEL OF PROPERTY, BUT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE ARCHITECT THAT'S LOOKING TO REDESIGN THIS, AND WE ARE JUST TRYING TO PULL OFFICE SPACE FOR THE STAFF WE HAVE SO WE CAN MAKE IT WORK. BUT IT'S ONLY GOING TO WORK SHORT TERM. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR THE CONTINUED GROWTH THAT WE EXPECT TO SEE COMING. IF WE WERE ABLE TO PICK UP AN ADDITIONAL PIECE OF PROPERTY AND WE COULD EXPAND THIS SPACE, COULD BE OPEN FOR OTHER ACTIVITIES. I MEAN, BESIDES WHAT YOU'RE USING IT FOR SPACES, FOR MEETINGS AND GROUPS AND TO EXPAND YOUR, YOU KNOW, CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT. AND SO THERE'S LOTS WE COULD DO WITH THE SPACE. BUT LIKE TERENCE SAID, WE HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT AS A, AS A VILLAGE BECAUSE THE PROPERTY JUST BECAME AVAILABLE TO US TO PURCHASE.I'LL JUST SAY THIS, I WOULD FIND IT HIGHLY PALATABLE IF WE COULD INCORPORATE SOMETHING THAT SERVICES THE COMMUNITY, SIMILAR TO MAYBE THE ABILITY TREE THAT I BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST, WHERE WE COULD GIVE A PORTION OF THE BUILDING SPACE TO SOMETHING THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE COMMUNITY IN SOME WAY. TO MAKE THIS A DUAL USE, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO GROW THE, THE, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF HOUSING OUR GOVERNMENT THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE HOUSED. BUT I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT HOW WE HOW WE BUILD THIS OUT AND MAYBE MAKE IT A MULTI-USE TYPE OF COURSE FACILITY. AGAIN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO PURCHASING IT AS LONG AS WE HAVE SOME SORT OF A SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO AS SHE SAID, WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT IT. WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO START TALKING ABOUT IT? WELL, YOU HAVE A 30 DAY WAITING PERIOD, IF YOU WILL. AND BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO NOTICE, ANYTIME YOU'RE GOING TO CONSIDER ACQUIRING A PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO ON JULY 10TH. MR. VOSS WOULD BE ABLE TO THEN START DEVELOPING A CONTRACT. IF THE COUNCIL AGREES THAT THEY WANT TO. DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT DURING THAT 30 DAYS TO DECIDE? WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT. OF COURSE YOU ALWAYS HAVE THAT. RIGHT. OKAY. SO YEAH, LET ME LET ME TEE THAT UP A LITTLE BIT HERE. SO THANK YOU. SO ON THE THOUGHT IF THERE WAS DIRECTION TONIGHT FROM THE COUNCIL TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED AND TEE UP FOR A CONTRACT FOR, FOR PURCHASE. ALL RIGHT. THE WAY MUNICIPAL CONTRACTS FOR PURCHASE OF REAL ESTATE WORK UNDER A PARTICULAR STATUTE IN CHAPTER 166. IT'S A SPECIAL TYPE OF OPTION CONTRACT. ALL RIGHT.
OKAY. WE GO TO THE SELLER AND WE HAVE THE OPTION CONTRACT PUT TOGETHER. AND WE GO TO THE SELLER AND SAY AND GET THEM TO SIGN UP. FIRST WE GET THEM ON THE HOOK. BUT THE VILLAGE IS NOT ON THE HOOK. RIGHT. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH OPTIONS. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. AND IT'S A VERY PARTICULAR STATUTORY ONE FOR, FOR CITIES IS WHAT I'M SAYING. AND WE GET WE GET THEM ON THE HOOK. WE DON'T PAY THEM ANYTHING FOR THE OPTION. BY THE WAY. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE WITH THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE WITH THE STATUTORY MUNICIPAL OPTION VERSUS OTHER ONES. YOU GET THEM ON THE HOOK SAYING, YEAH, THEY'LL SELL FOR THIS, WHICH WE HAVEN'T OFFERED NOW, BUT IN ANY EVENT, WE GET THEM FORMALLY ON THE HOOK FOR THIS. YOU KNOW, THEY'LL SELL FOR THIS. AND HERE ARE THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT AND SO ON. AND THEN IT WOULD COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND IT COULD, UNDER THE WORDING OF EVERYTHING, COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL ON JULY 10TH. JUST LOOKING AT HOW MEETINGS WORK OUT AND SO ON, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN. AND THEN THE CONTRACT WOULD BE BEFORE YOU. AND AT THAT POINT THE, THE COUNCIL IN IN THAT
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PROCESS ALWAYS MAINTAINS THE OPTION TO SAY NO, NEVER MIND. OKAY. IT'S. THAT'S HOW IT PROCEEDS ON THAT PIECE. SO IN ORDER TO PROCEED ON THAT, IT WOULD BE WELL TO GET SOME DIRECTION THAT BE LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN STAFF CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.AND IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, WOULD THERE BE A I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE SO MUCH GOING ON, BUT IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, WOULD THERE BE A WAY OF PUTTING TOGETHER SOME SIMILE OF WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING AND SPENDING ON THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FUTURE? I MEAN, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT MORE, YOU'RE GOING TO WANT MORE THAN A SKETCH ON A BACK ON THE BACK OF A PIECE OF PAPER. SO TIMELINE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE BUDGET DONE. I MEAN, WE'RE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO AND TO FARM THIS OUT PROBABLY WOULD BE EXPENSIVE. SO NO. SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE CAN GET TOGETHER AS, AS A GROUP AND BRAINSTORM AND COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, A, A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE. BUT WE KNOW, LIKE MISS RUSSO SAID, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO RETROFIT THIS BUILDING TO MEET OUR EXISTING NEEDS HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE.
RIGHT? AND, YOU KNOW, STARTING FRESH WOULD BE MUCH EASIER THAN TRYING TO RETROFIT IN THIS BUILDING. BUT WE JUST REALLY HAVEN'T HAVEN'T DISCUSSED IT. BUT I LIKE YOUR IDEA. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN LETTING THIS ROOM HERE. FOLKS HAVE REACHED OUT AND WANTED TO USE IT FOR VARIOUS THINGS. AND WHEN THEY DO THAT, WE HAVE TO MOVE ALL THE TABLES. WE HAVE TO PULL THE TABLES OFF THE FLOOR. WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THE MICROPHONES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE OPEN SPACE. I WILL SAY THAT I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE OPTION PLACING AN OPTION ON THE PROPERTY. SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT THAT'S HOW WE HANDLE IT, THAT WE MAKE A MOTION TO PLACE AN OPTION ON THE PROPERTY, TAKE THAT 30 DAYS TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN IDEA OF WHERE WE CAN GO WITH IT, AND THEN REVISIT IT ON JULY 10TH. SO THAT IS MY MOTION. OKAY. ON THE 10TH OF JULY. OKAY. SO WE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN ANSLINGER SECOND. OH, SO STILL LOOKING AT THE PARCEL. SO THIS SO THEN THAT MEANS THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO INQUIRE THAT CORNER LOT AS WELL. I MEAN, IS THAT PART OF THE PLAN. NO NOT NECESSARILY I MEAN THAT INDIVIDUAL I DID SEND A LETTER OUT AND YOU DID AUTHORIZE US TO GET AN APPRAISAL AND I HAVE BUT I HAVE NOT CIRCLED BACK AROUND UNTIL I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO BACK HERE, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO TRY AND ACQUIRE JUST THAT CORNER. SO ONCE I HAVE SOMETHING FINAL ON THE BACK, THEN I WILL REACH OUT TO HER AGAIN BECAUSE SHE WAS AMENABLE TO CONSIDERING SELLING IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO YOUR MOTION IS AGAIN SAY IT TO DO THE OPTION TO PURCHASE TO HAVE TO HAVE WADE DEVELOP AN OPTION TO PURCHASE SO THAT WE CAN REVIEW FURTHER WHAT THE CONTRACT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE. OKAY. I HAVE A SECOND OKAY. THANK YOU. SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN PALMER. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY NAYS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. OKAY.
ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS? NOTHING. PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, SIR. NO. OKAY. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? OF
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COURSE. OUR NEXT MOBILE FOOD DRIVE IS GOING TO BE A JUNE 20TH AT TIMERS POWER PARK. WE ARE IN NEED OF VOLUNTEERS, SO IF THERE'S ANY HIGH SCHOOLERS OR ANYBODY ON SUMMER BREAK THAT WOULD LOVE TO JOIN US IN THIS AMAZING HEAT, COME ON OUT NEXT FRIDAY AT TIME VOLUNTEERS 730 NOT EVEN THAT EARLY SET TIMERS PARIS. YES, AND THEN OUR NEXT FAMILY MARKET IS JUNE 27TH AT BIG MOUNT AT TEN A. VOLUNTEERS NEEDED AS WELL. OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS RESUMED WATER DAY FOR THE SUMMER, SO TOMORROW'S WATER DAY WILL BE AT POST FAMILY PARK FROM TEN UNTIL 12. OKAY.[NEXT REGULAR MEETING (ANNOUNCE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION)]
ANYTHING ELSE? NOTHING ELSE. OKAY. OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING WILL BE JUNE 26TH, RIGHT HERE IN[02:45:01]
OUR GREAT VILLAGE HALL. AND