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RATHER DO IT. THAT'S WHAT I SAID. BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE OUR PAPER. OKAY MEETING TO ORDER
[CALL TO ORDER]
THE VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING. REGULAR MEETING SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2024. WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS MEETING STARTED. PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES AND, VILLAGE CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL CALL. MAYOR DEPAULO. HERE. I'M HERE. YEAH. OH, MY GOD. VICE MAYOR PEREZ. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. GIBBS. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. PALMER. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. BROWN. HERE. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, WHICH WILL BE LED BY OUR VILLAGE BOARD. DEAR LORD, WE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS DAY. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY BLESSINGS. AND IN THIS MEETING, WE ASK THAT WE WOULD ALL BE CIVIL, THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US THE STRENGTH AND GUIDANCE TO CONDUCT THIS MEETING AS YOU WOULD SEE FIT AND WE THANK YOU.IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY. MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS OR ANYTHING? CODE
[ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, PULLED ITEMS OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS]
MODIFICATIONS? YES, SIR. STAFF? WELL, WE HAVE TWO PROCLAMATIONS. WELL PROCLAMATIONS? THAT'S GOING TO BE MOVED TO A FUTURE MEETING, A PRESENTATION BY FLORIDA COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER THAT WILL BE MOVED TO A LATER DATE DUE TO THE WEATHER, AND ITEM NUMBER 13 ON THE REGULAR AGENDA HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO BE MOVED TO A FUTURE DATE. AND THAT'S A DISCUSSION ITEM ON FILLING THE VACANCY, THAT WILL BE CREATED IN SEAT FIVE. AND THEN THE PROCLAMATION THAT'S BEING PULLED IS THE PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL FOUR WEEK. OKAY. NOW, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. THE NEXT MEETING WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEM ON THE ITEM NUMBER 13. NUMBER 13. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S A PLEASURE. I'M GETTING THAT'S THE SENSE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. OKAY. AND IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION ITEM. THERE WILL NOT BE ANY VOTING OR ANY NOMINATIONS OR ANYTHING MADE AT THAT TIME. CORRECT. THAT WILL BE UP TO THE COUNCIL. I WOULD OFFER THIS, THE VACANCY CAN'T BE FILLED FORMALLY UNTIL THE VACANCY EXISTS. AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO OCCUR UNTIL OCTOBER 31ST. THE COUNCIL CAN DISCUSS HOW IT'S GOING TO MAKE THAT DECISION. THE COUNCIL COULD, IF IT WANTS TO TAKE SOME ACTION TO SAY THIS IS THE PROCESS OR THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. SO, ACTUALLY, I GUESS STAFF WOULD LOOK FOR A LITTLE DIRECTION FROM THE, FROM THE COUNCIL AS OF RIGHT NOW, THIS ITEM HAD BEEN ON ON THE REGULAR AGENDA, WHICH MEANS COULD BE ACTION AT THE VERY LEAST ON HOW THAT DECISION WOULD BE MADE NOT TO APPOINT SOMEONE YET, BECAUSE THAT CAN'T OCCUR UNTIL AFTER OCTOBER 31ST. OKAY. THAT'S A CLARIFICATION THAT I, THAT I WANTED TO HEAR.EXACTLY. NOMINATIONS ARE OR ANY KIND OF, SPEAKING OF, OF PEOPLE WILL NOT HAPPEN UNTIL AFTER THE 31ST. CORRECT I COULDN'T SPEAK TO WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE'S NAMES WOULD COME UP. WHAT A WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT THE ACTION TO APPOINT SOMEONE THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE, TO PUT THEM IN THE SPOT CAN'T HAPPEN UNTIL A MEETING AFTER OCTOBER 31ST. SO IN IN AN ACTION ITEM ON ON SOMETHING I COULDN'T TELL YOU, SOME COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD BE PROHIBITED FROM SAYING, WELL, I'M THINKING ABOUT SO AND SO. OR THE DIRECTION OF THE DISCUSSION OF THE COUNCIL MAY BE DIRECTED TOWARDS BEFORE WE START PUTTING NAMES OUT, WE'RE LET'S DISCUSS PROCESS. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL ON THAT ITEM. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CLARIFICATION. OKAY. SO
[APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]
DO YOU NEED A MOTION? APPROVAL OF AGENDA. I GOT A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE PLEASE. SECOND BY GIBBS. THOMAS. SECOND BY A. OH OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN PALMER. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY OKAY. CONSENT CONSENT. AGENDA. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.[CONSENT AGENDA]
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SECOND, BY. THOMAS. SECOND BY BERNSTEIN. PALMER. COUNCILWOMAN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY.OKAY THANK YOU. OKAY OKAY. PROCLAMATIONS AND AWARDS. WE HAVE ONE. SO WE HAVE OUR BREAST
[7.
Breast Cancer Awareness Month
]CANCER. YEAH. WE HAVE, YOU HAVE THE ONE FOR BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH. BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH. OKAY WHEREAS BREAST CANCER REMAINS ONE OF THE MOST COMMON CANCERS AMONG WOMEN IN THE UNITED STATES, AFFECTING 1 IN 8 WOMEN IN THEIR LIFETIME. AND WHEREAS EARLY DETECTION THROUGH REGULAR SCREENING AND AWARENESS SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES THE CHANCES OF SUCCESSFUL TREATMENT AND SURVIVAL AND WHEREAS ADVANCEMENTS IN RESEARCH, TREATMENT AND EDUCATION CONTINUES TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THOSE AFFECTED BY BREAST CANCER, OFFERING HOPE AND PROGRESS TOWARDS A CURE. AND WHEREAS THE MONTH OF OCTOBER IS DEDICATED TO RAISING AWARENESS ABOUT BREAST CANCER, PROMOTING EDUCATION ON THE IMPORTANCE OF EARLY DETECTION AND SUPPORTING THOSE WHO ARE COURAGEOUSLY BATTLING THIS DISEASE. WHEREAS ORGANIZATIONS, HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS, RESEARCHERS AND ADVOCATES ACROSS THE NATION ARE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING SUPPORT, RESOURCES AND HOPE TO INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES AFFECTED BY BREAST CANCER. NOW, THEREFORE, I, CARMINE DIPAOLO, MAYOR OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 2024 AS BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH AND I URGE ALL CITIZENS OF THE VILLAGE TO JOIN IN ACTIVITIES THAT WILL INCREASE AWARENESS, PROVIDE EDUCATION AND SUPPORT THOSE THAT ARE AFFECTED BY BREAST CANCER. OKAY. AND THIS PROCLAMATION WILL BE ACCEPTED BY VICE MAYOR. AND, ANGELINA, I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, IN NOVEMBER, IT WILL BE TWO YEARS AGO THAT I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH STAGE TWO BREAST CANCER. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT MY JOURNEY WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO DIE AND, YOU KNOW, YOU MAKE PLANS EVERY TIME YOU GET THE WORD CANCER BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. BUT I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE LORD I'M HERE BECAUSE HE HEALED ME AND I HAVE A MISSION AND I'M VERY I WAS A VERY OPEN PERSON WHEN IT CAME TO MY STORY. I SHARE IT WITH EVERYBODY. I'M HERE BECAUSE THE LORD ALLOWED ME, AND I WILL CONTINUE SHARING MY STORY TO OTHER LADIES. YOU'RE NOT. YOU'RE NOT ALONE. THIS IS A FIGHT THAT YOU KNOW. I TOLD MY HUSBAND I WAS DIAGNOSED AND I THOUGHT MY LIFE WAS OVER. BUT THEN I TOLD HIM, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS THE ONLY WEEKEND I'M GOING TO CRY.I'M GOING TO LET IT ALL OUT. I SAID, BECAUSE COME MONDAY MORNING, I'M GOING TO PRETEND LIKE I DON'T HAVE IT. I'M GOING TO HIT TACKLE IT LIKE LIKE NOTHING. BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY I REALIZED THAT SPECIAL THANKS TO MY ONCOLOGIST, MY RADIATION ONCOLOGIST, AND THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I HAD JUST GOT ELECTED, AND HERE I AM WITH THIS JOURNEY THAT I DID NOT KNOW WHAT WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE. BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. AND IT'S AN HONOR. AMEN.
AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. YOU'RE A STRONG WOMAN. AMEN. AMEN AND WE, THE COMMUNITY, IS HERE FOR YOU.
ANYTIME YOU KNOW THAT. OKAY. NO PICTURES. OKAY. THEY WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE. WE GOT TO GET A PICTURE. YOU WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH THE. WE ONLY GOT ONE PICTURE, RIGHT? YEAH WHY CAN WE HAVE FOUR? WE HAVE AS MANY AS IT TAKES. AND WE. KNOW. OKAY. LET'S GO.
AMEN. BLESSED THANK YOU. OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE NEXT UP IS GOING TO BE THE YOUTH SPORTS
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Youth Sports Fact-Finding Committee Report
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FACT-FINDING COMMITTEE REPORT. HI, COUNCIL, DEBBIE PARKS, DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD, IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR, YOU GUYS SELECTED A COMMITTEE TO BE A FACT FINDING COMMITTEE TO GO OUT AND FIND WHAT WAS GOING ON IN SURROUNDING MUNICIPALITIES SIMILAR TO OURS, WITH YOUTH SPORTS, AND TO COME BACK AND REPORT TO COUNCIL. AND MISS BARBARA CLOWDUS IS HERE TO GIVE YOU THAT REPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I APOLOGIZE FOR MISSING LAST MEETING. COVID TOOK ME DOWN. BUT I'M BACK. YOU'RE BACK? ONE MORE TIME. AT THE TIME THAT THE YOUTH SPORTS COMMITTEE WAS APPOINTED, THERE WERE ONLY FOUR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. SO THERE WERE ONLY FOUR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, JACKIE CLARK WAS APPOINTED AND ATTENDED ONE MEETING, AND SHE WAS REPLACED BY HEIDI DOVE HANFORD, WHICH YOU'RE YOU KNOW, SHE DOESN'T LIVE IN INDIANTOWN ANYMORE, BUT SHE'S BEEN ACTIVE IN SPORTS IN, IN, IN TOWN AND EVERYBODY KNOWS HER. AND ELIAS MORALES WAS ANOTHER MEMBER AND JOSE FLORES WAS ANOTHER MEMBER. THEY WERE EXCELLENT MEMBERS, AND THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT IT IS THAT WE INVESTIGATED 13 CITIES AND IN ADDITION TO THE 13, I WENT TO ANOTHER FOR MYSELF. EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT. SO I KNOW MISS KRISTA WOOD WANTED A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. I'M A VISUAL PERSON BECAUSE SHE'S A VISUAL LEARNER AND SHE WANTED A POWERPOINT. BUT EVERY MUNICIPALITY IS SO DIFFERENT THAT THE COMMON DENOMINATOR WAS THAT THERE'S NO COMMON DENOMINATOR. IT IS ENTIRELY UP TO WHAT RESOURCES YOU HAVE, WHAT YOUR OBJECTIVES ARE, AND HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU BUY INTO THE MISSION OF PROVIDING A YOUTH SPORTS PROGRAM. THE OTHER INTERESTING THING IS THAT WHEN I COMPARED US TO MUNICIPALITIES, OUR SIZE, THOSE WERE ALL THE SAME THAT WE COMPARED FOR THE BUDGET. THOSE ARE THE WHAT THEY CALL READY COMMUNITIES. IT'S RURAL, I HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP. ALWAYS LOOK IT UP. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT DOES. READY? STAND FOR? ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IMPLIES, IS THAT THESE ARE SMALL COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE A HIGH RATE OF, DISADVANTAGE.AND ECONOMIC LEVELS, AND THAT MAKES THEM MORE QUALIFIED FOR MORE GRANTS AND MORE HELP. BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE A READY COMMUNITY FOR VERY MUCH LONGER. NOT WITH TERRA LAGO. NOT WITH RIVER OAK. OUR POPULATION IS NOT GOING TO BE 6500 PEOPLE FOR VERY MUCH LONGER. SO FINDING A CITY THAT'S COMPARABLE TO WHERE YOU THINK YOU MIGHT BE IS ALSO DIFFICULT, BECAUSE THEIR OBJECTIVES MAY NOT BE THE SAME AS OUR OBJECTIVES. IN MY MIND, WHAT I HAVE HEARD MOST FROM RESIDENTS IS THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED SOMETHING TO KEEP OUR KIDS INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. THE FUTURE OF INDIAN TOWN LIES AMONG ITS YOUTH, AND IF WE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THEM NOW, WE CAN'T
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GO BACK AND FIX IT LATER. WE NEED TO INCORPORATE THIS AS WE ARE GROWING OURSELVES. THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT ALL THESE SURVEYS OF THE EFFECTS OF YOUTH SPORTS IS THAT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE AN AWFUL LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN CRIME RATES IN LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES. IT'S STILL ABOUT THE SAME VERSUS THOSE WITH AND THOSE WITHOUT SPORTS PROGRAMS. THE DIFFERENCE IS, IN THE AMOUNT OF THE IMPACT ON WOMEN AND GIRLS. THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE YOUR GREATEST IMPACT.NOW, IF YOU'RE A PARENT, YOU KNOW THAT YOU WANT YOUR SON INVOLVED IN SPORTS BECAUSE THAT PROVIDES DISCIPLINE THAT PROVIDES A SENSE OF COMMUNITY, THAT PROVIDES, NEW CITIZENS, THAT'S TAKING CARE OF EACH OTHER. AND THEY LEARN, IF NOTHING ELSE, TO SHOW UP. A LOT OF EMPLOYERS THESE DAYS COMPLAIN BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BECAUSE OF ABSENTEE RATES, TARDINESS AND YOUTH SPORTS HAS SHOWN TO BE A WAY TO INSTILL THE KINDS OF HABITS THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT TO EMPLOYERS. ONE OF THE INTERESTING CITIES WAS PAHOKEE. AND WHEN JACKIE CLARK SAID SHE WANTED TO INVESTIGATE PAHOKEE, I KIND OF LAUGHED AND I THOUGHT, PAHOKEE. WELL, EVERYBODY KNOWS THEY HAVE GREAT FOOTBALL PLAYER, BUT YOUTH SPORTS PROGRAM IS MORE THAN FOOTBALL. WELL, LET ME TELL YOU, PAHOKEE IS HAS TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THEIR NFL PLAYERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A SPORTS COMPLEX THAT WAS BUILT FROM DONATIONS FROM THEIR NFL PLAYERS. THEY HAVE A FOOTBALL FIELD THAT'S ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. THEY HAVE A PROGRAM THAT BRINGS PRESCHOOLERS AND SENIOR CITIZENS TOGETHER IN THE SAME BUILDING, BECAUSE IT IS MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL. THEY HAVE SPLASH PADS. THEY HAVE A MARINA, A PIER. AND THEY PROVIDE NATURE PATHS. AND THE GYMNASIUM THEN GIVES THEM A PLACES FOR TUMBLING AND GYMNASTICS AND THE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES THAT YOU THINK OF AS FEEDER PROGRAMS FOR KIDS, FOR OTHER SPORTS. BRIAN WAS NOT ESSENTIALLY A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, BUT HE ATTENDED THE MEETINGS AND HE WENT TO THE CITY OF STUART. STUART IS 17,000 PEOPLE THERE, SURROUNDED BY PARKS, JUST ABOUT EVERY CITY OTHER THAN PAHOKEE IS SURROUNDED BY COUNTY PARKS. SO THEY DON'T NEED THEIR OWN YOUTH SPORTS PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE A POPULATION THAT HAS LITTLE LEAGUE AND POP WARNER AND OTHER ACTIVITIES GOING ON, AND THEY USE COUNTY FACILITIES INSTEAD OF PROVIDING THEIR OWN. AND I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
I FORGOT WHAT THE POINT I WAS GOING TO MAKE, BUT LAKE WORTH BEACH HAS 200 ACRES OF PARK LAND. I MEAN, RECREATION LAND. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PARK LAND THAT'S JUST PARK LAND AND RECREATION LAND. RECREATION LAND IS FOR SPORTS FIELDS, ESSENTIALLY, AND OTHER, MIGHT BE
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MOTOCROSS MIGHT BE SKATEBOARDIN, BUT THEIR 100 ACRES IS A HUGE BURDEN TO THEM BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO MAINTAIN 100 ACRES OF RECREATIONAL LAND, BUT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN GOLF COURSE. WE DON'T NEED OUR OWN GOLF COURSE. WHAT WE NEED IS AN AGREEMENT WITH INDIANWOOD. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BOY SCOUT CAMP. WE DON'T NEED A BOY SCOUT CAMP. WE HAVE ONE RIGHT DOWN INDIANTOWN ROAD, THEY HAVE MARINAS. WE HAVE MARINAS. WHAT WE NEED ARE, AGREEMENTS. MOST OF WHAT WE. WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS, WE HAVE HERE. WE HAVE GYMNASIUMS ALREADY HERE. WE HAVE YMCA ALREADY HERE WITH AN INDOOR SPACE AND TODDLERS. FOR WHAT? BRIAN'S INVESTIGATION OF CITY OF STUART SHOWED WAS A TODDLER PROGRAM. THE CITY OF STUART HAS A PROGRAM CALLED SMART START, AND IT TEACHES TODDLERS 3 TO 5. THE BASICS OF MOVING, THROWING, KICKING, SWINGING A BAT, SWINGING A GOLF CLUB AND EACH SPORT THAT YOU'RE TARGETING HAS CERTAIN ELEMENTS FOR THEM TO MASTER. AND THEY'RE SHORT. IT'S FOR FOUR WEEK PROGRAMS. I THINK ONE OF THEM WAS THREE WEEKS, BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT A RECREATION DEPARTMENT WOULD ORGANIZE. BUT YOU WOULD NEED A PLACE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. SOME THINGS COULD BE OUTSIDE. TUMBLING WOULD NEED TO BE INSIDE. I WOULD THINK. BUT WE HAVE THE YMCA WITH PLENTY OF SPACE AND BUILT IN TODDLERS.OUR MASTER PLAN THAT. WHEN WAS THAT COMPLETED? 23 THAT MASTER PLAN CONCLUDED THAT INDIAN TOWN NEEDS ANOTHER 40 TO 60 ACRES OF LAND FOR RECREATION. OUR COMP PLAN SAYS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE FIVE ACRES OF LAND FOR RECREATION FOR EVERY 1000 RESIDENTS. THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE ANY TIME THERE'S A DEVELOPER WHO COMES IN, THEY HAVE TO MEET OUR LEVELS OF SERVICE FOR A VARIETY OF TOPICS. BUT ONE OF THEM IS RECREATION. SO THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT WE HAVE TIME OR POWERS PARK INCLUDED WITHIN OUR CITY BOUNDARIES. ALTHOUGH WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER IT. WE CAN'T PUT ANY FIELDS IN THERE. WE CAN'T HAVE A SOCCER FIELD. WE CAN'T HAVE A BASEBALL FIELD OR ANYTHING ELSE IN THERE THAT DOUBLES WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. WE HAVE AS OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE. IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE WE HAVE TEN ACRES ALREADY HERE. FOR EVERY 1000 RESIDENTS. WE DON'T. WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER 30 ACRES FOR OUR 6500 RESIDENTS TOTAL. SO THAT IS A TOPIC THAT THE, FUTURE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MIGHT WANT TO TACKLE. I ALSO WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU WHEN YOU DECIDE TO APPOINT THAT BOARD, NOT TO MAKE IT A POLITICAL APPOINTMENT, NOT TO MAKE IT SOMEBODY JUST BECAUSE YOU PROMISED OR THEY HELPED WITH A CAMPAIGN THAT IT IS THE YOU NEED PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMITTED TO YOUTH SPORTS. AND IF ONE PERSON APPOINTS ONE, THEN YOU HAVE A
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FIVE MEMBER BOARD. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU'RE BETTER OFF WITH A SEVEN MEMBER BOARD SO YOU CAN APPOINT SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF VILLAGE BOUNDARIES. FOR INSTANC, JEFF LESLIE, WHO RAN THE JUPITER TEQUESTA YOUTH SPORTS ASSOCIATION FOR NINE YEARS. THAT WAS THE PROGRAM THAT I WAS ASSIGNED TO OR VOLUNTEERED TO INVESTIGATE. AND MR. LESLIE CAME TO OUR MEETING AND ADDRESSED OUR MEMBERS. THEY HAVE A BOARD COMPRISING THE HEADS OF EACH SPORT THAT IS ORGANIZED IN THEIR CITY. THEY HAVE A SEPARATE ORGANIZATION. IT'S A 500 AND 1C3. JUPITER TEQUESTA YOUTH ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION. BUT FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE ONE PROGRAM HERE THAT'S ANGELINA'S SOCCER PROGRAM. SHE WOULD BE A MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE BOARD. NONE OF THE PLAYERS PAY MORE THAN $50 REGISTRATION FEE. THAT WAS A GOAL OF THE JUPITER TEQUESTA ORGANIZATION. SHE'S GRINNING AT ME BECAUSE THEY CHARGE 174. 91. 90. INFLATION. BUT THAT ELIMINATES THE VILLAGE TRYING TO ORGANIZE EVERY SPORT. IT'S ALL VOLUNTEER, AND IT'S SUPPORTED BY BUSINESS OWNERS, SUPPORTED BY DEVELOPERS AND BY THE VILLAGE ITSELF. THE TOWN OF JUPITER DONATED $10,000 TO THEM. THE FIRST YEAR. THAT WAS 20 YEARS AGO. AND THAT IS ALL THAT HAS EVER DONATED WAS $10,000 EACH YEAR TO PROVIDE YOUTH SPORTS. THEY NOW HAVE 13 DIFFERENT SPORTS. THEY SERVE 7000 KIDS.NOW, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, BUT IT'S A PARTNERSHIP THAT AMONG THE VILLAGE, THE PARKS DIRECTOR AND YOUR PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. SOME OF YOUR CHALLENGES. IS MOBILITY.
WE ARE VERY SEPARATE. BOOKER PARK IS VERY SEPARATE FROM BIG MOUND PARK. SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MOBILITY FEES, BUT IMPROVING THE CONNECTIONS SO THAT KIDS CAN TAKE A SKATEBOARD OR A BIKE TO GET TO A PARK ACROSS TOWN OR IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AHEAD AND DOING STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR THE VILLAGE. THEY CITY OF LAKE ALFRED DECIDED TO HAVE A RECREATION IMPACT FEE BECAUSE WITH THEIR 200 ACRES, THEY HAD NO WAY TO MAINTAIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THEIR GROWTH IS 1% A YEAR, SO THEY DON'T HAVE THE HOPE OF REVENUE COMING IN. THEY WENT TO TAXING DEVELOPERS,
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BUT THEY'VE NEVER IMPLEMENTED I. SO THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT THEIR DESPERATE TO HAVE THE GROWTH IN POLK COUNTY, FLORIDA. AND THEY DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE DEVELOPERS FROM COMING AND IMPACT FEES HAVE A REPUTATION FOR DOING JUST THA. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ON MISS RUSSO'S SURVEY FORM WAS ABOUT THE STAFF AND THE BUDGET. THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE. THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF CIVIL ENGINEERS HAS DETERMINED IN A SURVEY NATIONALLY. THAT THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF ACRES PER 1000 RESIDENTS IS TEN ACRES. SO WE'RE ALREADY HALF OF WHAT THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS. THE NATIONAL AVERAGE FOR EMPLOYEES FULL TIME EQUIVALENT EMPLOYEES IS. EIGHT PER 10,000 RESIDENTS. THAT'S A COMBINATION OF FULL AND PART TIME. BUT THOSE ARE PAID BY THE VILLAGE AND DO NOT COME OUT OF YOUR THE $10,000 THAT YOU MIGHT GIVE TO THE YOUR YOUTH SPORTS ASSOCIATION THAT COMES OUT OF AD VALOREM TAXES OUT OF YOUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET. THE OTHER THING I FOUND OUT. IS THAT. FORBES MAGAZINE AND I PUT THIS IN YOUR REPORT IS IN A DELOITTE STUDY SHOWED THAT 85% OF WOMEN SURVEYED WHO PLAYED SPORTS SAID THAT PLAYING SPORTS WAS IMPORTANT TO SUCCESS IN THEIR PROFESSIONAL CAREERS. BUT WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP ROLES AND CORPORATE AMERICA AND WOMEN WHO MAKE $100,000 OR MORE A YEAR, THAT INCREASES TO OVER 90%. PLAYING SPORTS ALSO HELPS BUILD BONE DENSITY IN WOMEN THAT THEY LOSE LATER. AND WE EVEN HAVE SCHOLARSHIPS FOR SKATEBOARDING, FOR PING PONG, FOR BILLIARDS.THERE'S YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE, I THINK, THAT THERE'S ANY SPORT. THERE'S ALSO A SCHOLARSHIP AVAILABLE. ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS. RIGHT NOW, THOUGH, IS FOOTBALL. NOT JUST FOR BOYS, BUT FOR GIRLS. THE NFL HAS A WOMEN'S FLAG FOOTBALL PROGRAM. THAT'S THE FASTEST GROWING WOMEN'S SPORT IN THE COUNTRY. INTERESTING ENOUGH, THE OTHER FAST GROWING SPORT IS LACROSSE. AND WHEN I SAY LACROSSE, I HAVE PEOPLE LOOK AT ME LIKE, THAT'S HOITY TOITY TO HOITY TOITY. FOR INDIAN TOWN, THAT WAS A DIRECT QUOTE, BUT IT'S NOT. AND IT CAN BE PLAYED ON A FOOTBALL FIELD. WE HAVE PICKLEBALL COMING OUT AT TARA LAGA PICKLEBALL COURTS ARE EASY TO INCORPORATE. THE SAME WITH SAND VOLLEYBALL. BEACH VOLLEYBALL IS WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED, BUT IT'S A SAND COURT. THERE'S FOUR OF THEM COMING IN AT TARA LAGA. IF INDIAN TOWN HAD ONE SAY AT BOOKER PARK, YOU COULD HAVE A TARA LAGO TEAM. BEACH VOLLEYBALL VERSUS A BOOKER PARK TEAM. AND JOSH KELLUM OWNS. WHAT ARE. WAS IT. HE MANUFACTURES SAND. WHAT? QUARRY.
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QUARRY. THANK YOU. THAT WORD JUST LEFT ME. BUT. YES. SAND QUARRY. SO YOU KNOW WHO WOULD BE THE PERFECT DONOR FOR A SAND VOLLEYBALL COURT? AND I THINK THAT I HAVE COVERED EVERYTHING THAT I WANTED TO. AND WHEN I THINK OF EVERYTHING ELSE THAT I FORGOT, I'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ANYBODY HAVE? VICE MAYOR PEREZ. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE. YOU KNOW, AS SOMEONE WHO RUNS THIS, THE SOCCER PROGRAM, I KNOW I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE IT TOOK TIME FOR THIS TO BE, YOU KNOW, SAID. BUT MY QUESTION TO TARYN IS, HOW CAN WE FORM THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD? TO BECOME THE PERMANENT. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER. YEAH, IT WAS IT WAS, IT WAS PROBABLY JANUARY OR DECEMBER. IT WAS BEFORE GUYTON LEFT IN MY ADVANCED YEARS. MY MEMORY GOES SOMETIMES, I'M BEING TOLD WE. AND I HAVE A VAGUE RECOLLECTION OF THIS, BUT I COULDN'T REMEMBER. IS WHETHER IT WAS A RESOLUTION FOR THE FACT FINDING COMMITTEE OR WAS IT? IT WAS TO FORM THE PERMANENT. NO, IT WAS A FACT FINDING COMMITTEE, WHICH. NO, THAT TURNED INTO. I'LL BE I'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE A QUICK PEEK AT IT TO REMIND MYSELF EXACTLY WHAT WE DID. THE THE, THE ANSWER WOULD BE ASSUMING WE DIDN'T DO IT BACK IN JANUARY. IT WAS BACK IN JANUARY. OKAY ALL RIGHT. I'LL TAKE A I'LL TAKE A QUICK PEEK AT AT WHAT NEXT STEPS WOULD LOOK LIKE BASED ON ON THAT RESOLUTION. AND GET BACK WITH YOU ON JUST A 2ND JANUARY. WHAT. 2023 RESOLUTION. THANK YOU. OKAY. MOVING ON. ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, SIR. MISS[PUBLIC COMMENT (3 MINUTES EACH)]
LINDA. GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, LINDA AND I COME, WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED. WE HAVE DODGED THE BULLET ONE MORE TIME WITH THE PASSING OF HELENA. BUT IT HAS TRIGGERED SOME THOUGHTS IN ME THAT I WAS NOT SATISFIED WITH OUR VILLAGE'S RESPONSE TO INFORMING THE PUBLIC AS TO WHAT THEY SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T DO. WHAT COULD BE DONE. WE WERE DEPENDING A LOT ON THE COUNTY. THERE WAS A THERE'S A GROUP THAT COMES UP ON NEXT DOOR, SAYING WHAT YOUR PREPARATIONS SHOULD BE. I DO THE SAME THING. I'M QUEEN OF STORM PREP, AND I CAN TELL YOU HOW MANY BOTTLES OF WATER YOU NEED AND WHEN YOU NEED TO START PREPARING. BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN WITH THE VILLAGE IS SOME VERY LOCALIZED INFORMATION. WHEN IF WHEN WOULD THE SHELTER BE SET UP? WHO WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF IT? WHO'S GOING TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC AS TO WHAT TO BRING TO THE SHELTER? INFORMATION. WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE A UTILITY EMERGENCY DURING THE STORM? WHO DO YOU CALL? OH, GOD. MY BRAIN. I JUST THOUGHT GHOSTBUSTERS, BUT THAT DIDN'T, THAT DIDN'T FLY RIGHT. OLD AGE DOES WEIRD THINGS TO US ANYWAY. IF THERE'S ROAD FLOODING, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE HIGH AND DRY HERE. BUT IN THE EVENT OF AREA FLOODING, WE COULD BECOME AN ISLAND HERE. WHO'S GOING TO KEEP US PROMPTED AS TO WHETHER KANNER OR 710 OR THE[00:40:05]
B-LINE MAY BE FLOODED AND WE MAY BE ISOLATED WHERE WE'RE AT. THE INFORMATION THAT THE COUNTY GIVES US IS GOOD, BUT IT'S GENERAL. WE NEED SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC THAT ADDRESSES JOE BLOW RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. WHAT THEY MAY HAVE, QUESTIONS ABOUT. I'M ALL FOR, YOU KNOW, BEING PREPARED AND I THINK THAT THAT THE VILLAGE NEEDS TO STEP UP AND, AND BE READY TO PROVIDE INFORMATION, HAVE A HOTLINE. IF SOMEBODY'S GOT A QUESTION OR A PROBLEM OR WHATEVER, TO BE ABLE TO DIRECT THAT QUESTION SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN MARTIN COUNTY HANDLES IT, WE NEVER GET THROUGH. SO IT'S JUST MY JUST MY $0.02. THANKS. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? KIMBERLY JACKSON BROWN. WELCOME. HEY. KIMBERLY. JACKSON BROWN, THIS IS QUICK. I JUST WANT TO TELL TARYN THANK YOU FOR HAVING PATRICK TO COME OUT AND DO THE TESTING OF THE WATER. SO HE DID TEST THE WATER, AND HE SAID THAT THERE WAS NO BACTERIA IN THE WATER, WAS SAFE TO DRINK. BUT I DID EMAIL HIM BACK. AND I SAID TO HIM THAT I'M GOING TO DO AN INDEPENDENT TEST, AND WE'RE GOING TO COMPARE THE TWO. YEAH BECAUSE, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT LIKE WHEN WE BOIL THE WATER, IT LEAVES A WHITE FILM. AND IF YOU LEAVE THE WATER SITTING, IT HAS WHITE PARTICLES. SO THAT WOULD MAKE US AFRAID TO DRINK IT. SO JUST TO COMPARE AND SAY, IF BOTH SAYS THAT IT'S SAFE, I STILL PROBABLY WOULD BUY BOTTLED WATER. BUT OUT OF HABIT. BUT THEN WE'LL KNOW THAT WE CAN DRINK THE WATER. THAT'S THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. WAIT. THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING, TOO. I WASN'T HERE FOR THE BUDGET MEETING. WE WANT TO KNOW NOW. I'M GOING TO SAY IT. THAT ONE. SAY IT. THAT ONE. THAT'S IT. MAYOR YEAH.YEAH. BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, I HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK BACK AT THE RESOLUTION FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, YES. THE RESOLUTION DID ESTABLISH THE PRAB. BOARD, AND WHAT I PIECED TOGETHER IN MY RECOLLECTION WAS THAT THE ADOPTED THE RESOLUTION FORMALLY ESTABLISHING THAT BOAR.
BUT THEN THE COUNCIL DECIDED AS A FIRST STEP TO APPOINT FACT FINDING COMMITTEE THAT THEN PROCEEDED ON AND, CULMINATED IN THE REPORT YOU HAD TONIGHT AND YOU WERE GOING TO WAIT TO FORMALLY PUT PEOPLE ON THAT OFFICIAL, PRAB BOARD UNTIL THEIR WORK IS DONE. SO I THINK THE NEXT STEP WOULD PROBABLY BE, TO MAKE, APPOINTMENTS TO THAT BOARD SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
THANK YOU. OKAY, WE'LL BRING BACK. WE CAN JUST BRING BACK AN AGENDA ITEM, AND THEN THAT GIVES YOU SOME TIME TO TALK TO YOUR PERSON. EXCUSE ME. AND WE'LL BRING THAT TO YOU. OKAY THANK
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YOU. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS BY VILLAGE COUNCIL? NONE OKAY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THAT SIDE. YES, YES. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, WITH THE. I'M GLAD TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE. KIND OF SPARSE. WE'VE HAD, WHAT DO YOU LIKE HAS BEEN EXPRESSED? WE WERE KIND OF DODGED THE BULLET. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, THE RAIN SQUALLS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH. I IT AND I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS. YOU KNOW, INDIAN TOWN HIGH SCHOOL. I'VE MADE THE COMMENT. WE NEED TO GET SIDEWALKS OUT THERE BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE KIDS THAT WALK AND RIDE BIKES AND THEY'RE BEING SEEN ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD TRYING TO GET OUT THERE, AND IT'S REALLY DANGEROUS. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT'S RAINING. DAWNED ON ME TODAY. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE MARTY BUS THAT MAKES A ROUND AND MAKES A ROUND AND MAKES A ROUND AND GOES OVER TO STUART AND COMES BACK. COULD WE GET WITH THE MPO OR MARTY OR WHOEVER HANDLES THAT AND SEE IF THEY COULD DO IN ONE OF THEIR LOOPS AROUND IN THE MORNING, INCLUDE GOING OUT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, AND IN JUST ONE LOOP GOING AROUND. SO IF KIDS WERE GOING TO SCHOOL, JUST THAT ONE, JUST THE ONE LOOP. AND THEN IN THE AFTERNOON MAKE JUST IN AND MAKE A LOOP OUT THERE COMING BACK TO TOWN AROUND. SO IT WOULD[00:45:02]
GIVE THE PEOPLE IT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR KIDS IF INSTEAD OF HAVING TO WALK ALONG THE SIDE OF THE ROAD OR WHEREVER. MAYBE THEY COULD HAVE JUST INCLUDE IT IN JUST ONE TIME IN THE MORNING AND ONE TIME IN THE EVENING, ACCORDING TO WHAT? THE BELL SCHEDULE IS OUT THERE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I'VE HAD I HAVE ACTUALLY ONE OF THE COUNSELORS AND EXTENDED DAY. SHE RODE THE MARTY OVER TO CLARK ADVANCED AND BACK. THAT'S HOW SHE GOT BACK AND FORTH TO SCHOOL. SO IT IS IT IS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT OUR STUDENTS COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO, TO CALL EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION TO AN AWARD THAT WAS PRESENTED TUESDAY EVENING, LAST WEEKEND, IN THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEK, THE FLORIDA COMMISSION FOR THE TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED HAD THEIR ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN CONJUNCTION WITH ANOTHER TRANSPORTATION BOARD DOWN IN WEST PALM BEACH, ACTUALLY. AND THE AWARD WAS GIVEN OUT FOR 2020 FOR OUTSTANDING COORDINATOR BOARD COORDINATING BOARD OF THE YEAR. AND IT WAS GIVEN TO THE MARTIN COUNTY LOCAL COORDINATING BOARD FOR THE TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED. AND I SIT ON THE MPO AND I AM PRIVILEGED ENOUGH IN MY TENURE ON THE MPO TO BE APPOINTED TO BE THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE. AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS AWARD FOR THAT BOARD IS IN DIRECT RESULT OF THAT $12,500 THAT WE SET ASIDE LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR, BECAUSE THAT THAT DROP IN THE BUCKET HAS RIPPLED. AND IT LIKE I STATED AT THE LAST MEETING OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, IT HAS MADE OVER A QUARTER OF $1 MILLION DIFFERENCE IN IN THAT BUDGET FOR THE MOST DESPERATELY NEEDY OF OUR OF OUR RESIDENTS. YOU KNOW, THE DISADVANTAGED. THEY THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, PHYSICAL PROBLEMS, THEY HAVE WHATEVER IT IS THE ELDERLY, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE AND I'M VERY I'M VERY PROUD OF THIS. I'M VERY PROUD OF THIS BECAUSE ADVOCATING FOR THOSE AND IT'S A HUGE PART OF INDIAN TOWN.WE NEED THAT. SO WHEN I'M ADVOCATING FOR IT, I'M ADVOCATING FOR THE RESIDENTS IN INDIAN TOWN. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THIS BOARD AS AS YOU MOVE FORWARD AND YOU APPOINT PEOPLE TO THE DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMITTEES THAT WHOEVER IS SELECTED TO SIT ON THE MPO, I THINK THAT THE TWO MOST IMPACTFUL BOARDS THAT ARE APPOINTED ON THIS, ON THIS, COUNCIL IS THE MPO BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT IT DOES, AND ALSO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, BECAUSE THE WORK THAT IT DOES, FIRST OF ALL, THE MPO, IT IMPACTS THE ROADS. STATE ROAD 710 IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY ON THEIR LIST, AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE THAT FOR A LONG TIME. BUT IT WASN'T UNTIL I GOT ON THAT MPO BOARD AND THEY HAVE IT NUMBER ONE. SO WHOEVER SITS ON THAT BOARD NEEDS TO MAKE SURE IT STAYS IN THE NUMBER ONE POSITION AND I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE WHOEVER SITS ON THAT BOARD TO VOLUNTEER TO BE THE CHAIR OF THIS TRANSPORTATION FOR DISADVANTAGED, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY FEEL LEFT OUT, YOU KNOW, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY THEY HAVE NOT BEEN IT'S NOT BEEN IMPORTANT TO THE MPO. SO I FEEL LIKE IT IS, IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE THE CHAIR. AND I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. SOMEBODY FROM INDIAN TOWN, BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF, LEFT OUT AND WHOEVER'S FROM INDIAN TOWN CAN ADVOCATE FOR THOSE THAT KIND OF GET LOOKED OVER. SO AND THEN THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT BOARD I MENTIONED IS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. THE PERSON THAT IS ASSIGNED TO THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT IS OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. AND IT IS GROWING AND WE NEED THEM. I KNOW THE CHAMBER HAS REALLY WORKED WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND GETTING THEIR SUPPORT IN THE DIFFERENT EVENTS, AND THEY'VE HAD TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD A LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT DOES THAT WELL. NOW WE DO. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PARTNERING WITH THE CHAMBER, AND WE ARE GETTING TO KNOW OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THOSE THAT ARE COMING IN AND WORKING WITH THEM. SO THAT'S JUST AS FAR
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AS AND THOSE ARE THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT TO ME, BECAUSE IT IS THE MOST IMPACTFUL TO THE RESIDENTS OF INDIAN TOWN. THERE'S OTHER BOARDS. I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF FOR, YOU KNOW, SELF LEARNING OR IT'S NOT IMPACTFUL TO THE PEOPLE OF INDIAN TOWN LIKE THESE TWO BOARDS ARE. THESE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT TO ME. SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE ENCOURAGE MOVING FORWARD. THAT YOU PAY ATTENTION TO THEM AND YOU PARTICIPATE. AND I'M PROUD OF THIS. AND I'LL SHUT UP. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? COMMENTS. I WAS MISS PALMER.YES, SIR. THANK YOU. I WAS THINKING ABOUT, WHAT? COUNCILWOMAN GIBBS THOMAS SAID ABOUT THE MARTA, AND, IT WAS ON THE NEWS, AND I HAPPENING TO KIND OF SEE IT AS I PICKED MY GRANDSON UP OVER IN PLEASANT CITY. WEST PALM, THEY HAVE A, A RIDE SERVICE, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY ON THE NEWS. THEY A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY HAD SPONSORSHIPS AND DIFFERENT ONES BOUGHT INTO IT. AND WHAT THEY DO, THEY GO AROUND THE COMMUNITY PICKING UP ANYBODY THAT NEEDS A RIDE TO THE DOCTOR, TO THE STORE, TO WHEREVER THEY NEED IN THE IN THAT COMMUNITY. SO I WAS JUST THINKING, MAYBE WE CAN LOOK INTO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN'T GET TO MARTA, MAYBE, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT THIS BOARD DOES. THE TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGE WE GOT THAT NORTH COUNTY. WE GOT THAT. OKAY. MICROPHONE RIGHT. SO THEN THOSE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T LIKE I THINK THEY HAVE TO WITH THE MARTY, THEY HAVE TO BE AT A CERTAIN PLACE. RIGHT. THEY COME TO THE HOUSE. YEAH. NO, THIS IS THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM MARTY. THE TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT. OKAY BUT THIS PARTICULAR SERVICE IS FOR EVERYBODY. THIS. YEAH, THIS DOES DISABLE OR WHOEVER. SO THEY, THEY GET PICKED UP RIGHT AT THEIR HOUSE. I THINK THEY JUST MAKE A PHONE CALL AND SOMEONE PICKS THEM UP, AND IT'S A BUNCH OF THEM RIDING AROUND AND I'M LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, HOLD ON. THEY ALSO HAVE A BIG BUS, ALMOST LIKE A TOUR BUS. AND THEY DO A LOT OF GREAT THINGS. AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIND CATCH ONE OF THEM TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM. BUT THEY ZIPPING BACK AND FORTH. BUT I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, BRING THAT TO THE COUNCIL.
OKAY. VICE MAYOR PEREZ. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, I REALIZE A COUPLE NIGHTS AGO THAT THERE WAS AN OUTAGE ON YALAHA STREET, THE STREET LIGHTS. DO YOU ARE YOU AWARE OF.
I SUBMITTED A TICKET TO FPL, BUT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW THE WHOLE ENTIRE STREET IS OUT ON YALAHA.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF WE. I MEAN, WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE SAINT, BUT THEY WANT US TO GO THROUGH THAT. YEAH, I SUBMITTED A TICKET, BUT I'M LIKE, MAYBE SOME. BUT MAYBE SOMEBODY KNOWS.
WHAT WHAT HAPPENED? NO, WE'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING AT ALL. I KNOW THERE WAS A DOWNED WIRE, A COUPLE OF DAYS. I MEAN, LAST WEEK. BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS THE CAUSE OF IT. BUT I'LL WAIT FOR THAT NOW. OKAY. AND ALSO, I HAD, THE PARENT RESOURCE CENTER REACH OUT. I WENT TO THEIR MONTHLY MEETING YESTERDAY, AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO SEE IF WE COULD IF THEY IF WE COULD DRIVE OUR RESIDENTS TO THE FOUR C, WHICH IS ON JACQUES JAMES AND STUART EVERY THREE MONTHS, BECAUSE SOME LADIES DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION. SO WHAT FAUCI DOES IS THEY GIVE, CLOTHING AND A $20 VOUCHER FOR EVERY STUDENT FOR WALMART. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I CAN DRIVE IT AS LONG AS MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE OKAY WITH IT. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF WE IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT I MEAN, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES, OBVIOUSLY IT NEEDS TO BE A STAFF PERSON, AND MOST OF THE STAFF HERE AT THE VILLAGE ARE HOURLY. SO IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T MIND IF THEY'RE OPEN THE FIRST WEDNESDAY.
THEY'RE OPEN TILL SEVEN SO WE CAN SCHEDULE IT. HEY, I'LL PICK UP THE VAN AT 435 AND THEN I DON'T MIND DRIVING IT. YEAH. IF YOU WANTED TO JUST SAY YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS, THAT'S. NO, NO, NO, NO. WE'RE FINE. YEAH. YOU CAN YOU CAN DRIVE IT. YEAH. BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE. THEY'RE CHARGING THEM $50 JUST TO DRIVE TO STUART. SO WHY WHY NOT GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY AT NO CHARGE TO TAKE THEM AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. OKAY ALL RIGHT. ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS? WELL COMMENTS BY VILLAGE MANAGER. JUST ONE QUICK ONE. I WAS ASKED BY JEFF
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SABIN WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT. APPARENTLY THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES HAS ROLLED OUT A PROGRAM ASKING MUNICIPALITIES TO TAKE THE PLEDGE TO RECYCLE. AND IT'S JUST KIND OF IT'S THERE'S NO COST INVOLVED. AND SO HE'S ASKED IF THE VILLAGE WOULD BE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.[00:55:03]
SO I'D LIKE TO DO IT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP FIRST, IF THAT'S OKAY. OKAY.THANK YOU. OKAY. REGULAR AGENDA. I HAVE A MOTION. MAYOR, WE HAVE OUR MOTION. A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REGULAR AGENDA. YES. I SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN THOMAS AND SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN BROWN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ALL RIGHT. PASS UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER
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Letter of No Objection for Terra Lago to Place Temporary Manufactured Homes on Their Property During Construction
]NINE. THIS IS A LETTER OF NO OBJECTION. SO I WAS ASKED BY THE FOLKS WITH TERRA LARGO. THEY ARE GETTING PREPARED TO TEMPORARILY LOCATE TWO MOBILE OR MANUFACTURED HOMES. MOBILE HOMES, IF YOU WILL, FOR, AT THE, AT ON ALLAPATTAH AT THE VERY MOST EAST NORTHEAST OF THEIR PROPERTY FOR 24 HOURS. SO FOR SOMEBODY TO BE ABLE TO LIVE THERE 24 HOURS A DAY FOR SOME SURVEILLANCE OPPORTUNITIES, THEY'RE GOING TO START HAVING MATERIALS LAID. THEY'RE GOING TO START HAVING THINGS OF SIGNIFICANT VALUE, IF YOU WILL, AND THEY JUST LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOMEONE, AVAILABLE IN THOSE FACILITIES. AND THAT'S VERY COMMON WITH LARGE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. SO I HAD INCLUDED A LETTER HERE THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE MAYOR SIGN ON THE VILLAGE'S BEHALF. JUST OFFERING THERE WE DON'T VILLAGES THAT ENTITY DOES NOT OBJECT TO THEM DOING THIS TEMPORARY LOCATION OF THESE FACILITIES. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY, COMMENTS? ARE WE GOING TO BE ARE THEY GOING TO BE HOOKED UP TO, WATER AND SEWER? I MEAN, IS IT GOING TO BE SELF-CONTAINED? WHAT IS IT LIKE AN RV OR THEY WILL THEY? WELL, THEY'LL HAVE, THEY'LL HAVE TEMPORARY, SEPTIC SYSTEMS IF YOU WILL, FOR THE TRAILERS AND THEN THE WATER, THEY WILL EITHER, HAVE TO THEY WON'T BE DOING A WELL OR ANYTHING, SO THEY'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET WATER TO THEIR. I DIDN'T ASK ABOUT THE UTILITIES.I FIGURED THEY WOULD HAVE FIGURED ALL THAT. I JUST FIGURED ALL THAT OUT AHEAD OF TIME. OKAY OKAY. ANY PUBLIC. ALL RIGHT. KAREN, WHEN YOU SAY TEMPORARY, HOW LONG IS TEMPORARY, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I DIDN'T ASK THEM THAT. I CAN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY ONCE THEY START GETTING BUILT AND PEOPLE START MOVING I, THEY GET TO A CERTAIN POINT, THEN THEY WOULD REMOVE THE TRAILERS. OBVIOUSLY, WHEN THERE'S TRAFFIC, REGULAR TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH. YEAH. YES, MA'A.
VICE MAYOR RICE. NO HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YOU HAVE? OH. I'M SORRY. OKAY. ONE ONE QUESTION, TARA, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT YOU JUST ASSUMED THAT THEY WOULD FIGURE THINGS OUT WITH THEIR. WHAT? I'M KIND OF UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO GET A MORE DEFINITE HOW THEY PLAN. OR ARE THEY GOING TO USE OUR RESOURCES OR WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO SO WE. SO IT WON'T BE A PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE? WELL, WE DON'T HAVE CURRENTLY HAVE WATER AND SEWER THERE, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED IT AT SOME POINT. SO IT'S AT SOME POINT WHEN THEY GET THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN, THEN OF COURSE THEY, THEY WOULD BE BETTER PREPARED. RIGHT AND KEEP IN MIND THIS, THIS IS GIVING THIS LETTER OF NO OBJECTION NOW IS NOT GIVING A, A BLANK CHECK.
OKAY. YOU KNOW, ANY ANY SORT OF HOOKUPS FOR WATER OR SEWER ARE GOING TO, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH REGULAR REGULATIONS ON THAT. AND BASICALLY PATS. YEAH, THEY'RE PERMITTING AND PATS APPROVAL. SO I MEAN IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO REVIEW. AND MAKE SURE IT'S APPROPRIATE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. YES. NO PROBLEM. AND I NOTICED IT WAS PLURAL HOMES. SO IT'S GOING TO BE TWO. THERE'S TWO. YES MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, SIR. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION.
APPROVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LETTER OF NO OBJECTION. SECOND, MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN THOMAS AND SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN PALMER. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. PASS UNANIMOUSLY.
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Permission to Contact Martin County to Inquire About Property Located at 15655 SW Osceola Street in the Village of Indiantown
]THANK YOU. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 12. PERMISSION TO CONTACT MARTIN COUNTY. INQUIRE ABOUT PROPERTY LOCATED ON OSCEOLA STREET IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. YES, SIR. THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT WAS.THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY MARTIN COUNTY. BUT THE BUILDING WAS BUILT BY INDIAN RIVER STATE
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COLLEGE. IT WAS USED FOR SOME ADULT EDUCATION PROGRAMS. WAY BACK, THE LEASE THAT THEY HAD WITH ISC WAS A LONG TERM LEASE THAT HAS EXPIRED. AND IN SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCILWOMAN, PALMER AND THEN ALSO I'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, SOME STAFF ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUILDING. IT WAS NOT TURNED OVER TO THE VILLAGE WHEN THE ASSETS WERE PROVIDED TO THE VILLAGE FROM THE COUNTY BECAUSE OF THE LEASE THAT WAS CURRENTLY ON THERE. BUT SINCE THE LEASE HAS EXPIRED, I'D LIKE PERMISSION TO REACH OUT AND ASK, MAKE A FORMAL REQUEST TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO CONSIDER GIVING THAT BUILDING, TO THE VILLAGE. AND I'VE ATTACHED A LETTER FOR THE MAYOR TO SEND TO, HAROLD JENKINS. I THINK HE'S STILL THE CHAIR. HE MAY NOT BE THE. HE IS. HE IS.OKAY. UNTIL NOVEMBER. OKAY. SO, WE WOULD SEND THAT LETTER. JUST. IT DOESN'T HURT TO ASK, I THINK THAT IF THE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE COUNTY HAD BEEN AND WHAT KIND OF GOT ME GOING ON THIS WAS THE COUNTY HAD, WAS LOOKING AT IT TO MOVE THE TAX COLLECTOR FROM THE ANNEX OVER THERE BECAUSE SHE'S SO BUSY. AND PARKING IS AN ISSUE WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. AND SO I THINK THAT'S NOT A REALLY GOOD LOCATION FOR THE TAX COLLECTOR, IN MY OPINION, NOT WITH THE KIND OF TRAFFIC THAT SHE GETS. SO THAT STARTED THAT CONVERSATION OF, WELL, WHY DON'T WE JUST SEE IF THE COUNTY WOULD BE AMENABLE TO TURNING THAT ASSET OVER TO US AND THEN AND THEN ANY USE FOR IT AND ALL THAT WILL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL. DO YOU NEED A MOTION JUST FOR HIM TO SIGN? WOULD BETTER. YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. YEAH. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GIVE THE PERMISSION TO MOTION BY AND A SECOND AND THOMAS SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN BROWN. BROWN. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. OH OKAY. SORRY. OH I'M SORRY. PUBLIC COMMENT. JANET HERNANDEZ I'LL GET IT RIGHT ONE DAY. JANET HERNANDEZ, RESIDENT OF INDIANTOWN. I JUST WANTED TO SAY I DO AGREE WITH THIS ITEM. JUST BECAUSE THAT BUILDING DOESN'T JUST SITS THERE AND IT COULD BE USED FOR OTHER COMMUNITY STUFF, OTHER ITEMS LIKE, I KNOW, PARKING REC, WE'RE WE'RE PUSHING THAT IDEA, IT COULD BE A RESOURCE CENTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY FOR, LIKE, THE WELCOME, YOU KNOW, WELCOME CENTER OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS. SO I REALLY THINK THAT THIS, IS IDEAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE INDIANTOWN IS GROWING. AND, AND IF WE DON'T CATCH UP AT THE PACE THAT'S GROWING, WE WILL BE BEHIND. AND SO THIS IS A GOOD, THING THAT THE COUNCIL IS DOING BECAUSE THIS WILL HELP DO SOMETHING WITH THAT BUILDING BECAUSE YOU'RE SITTING THERE.
IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR YEARS. I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY TAKE COLLEGE CLASSES THERE ANYMORE, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE TAKING A COLLEGE CLASS 30 MINUTES AWAY AT NIGHT AT DARK, I DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO FORT LAUDERDALE TO A COLLEGE CLASS. SO IT'S JUST I WISH I WOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO MAKE LIFE THE LIVES OF OUR STUDENTS EASIER. BUT IT DIDN'T WORK OUT. BUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE OPTION FOR A COMMUNITY, FOR OUR VILLAGE TO DO SOMETHING WITH PARKS AND REC THAT WE HAVE A LOT TO DO. WOULD BE SOMETHING GOOD TO SEE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
THAT IS IT. ANYBODY ELSE? NO NO, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE. GOT TO TAKE A VOTE NOW WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN. OKAY. I'M SORRY. GIBBS TO HAVE THE VOTE REAL QUICK AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER. PALMER, BROWN. BROWN. BROWN. OKAY ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. THANK YOU. PASS UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. OKAY I'LL GO AHEAD AND HANDLE THIS NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU. MAYOR,
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ORDINANCE NO. 08-2024 -- AN ORDINANCE OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, CREATING SECTION 139.3, “PUBLIC CAMPING OR SLEEPING ON ANY PUBLIC PROPERTY, PUBLIC BUILDING, OR PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY PROHIBITED” OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN TRANSITIONAL CODE OF ORDINANCES; PROHIBITING PUBLIC CAMPING AND SLEEPING ON ANY PUBLIC PROPERTY; PROVIDING FOR EXCEPTIONS; PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT; PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS AND INTENT; AND PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION, CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
]THIS NEXT ITEM IS ON FOR FIRST READING. ORDINANCE NUMBER ZERO EIGHT DASH 2024, AN ORDINANCE OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, CREATING SECTION 130 9.3 PUBLIC CAMPING OR SLEEPING ON ANY PUBLIC PROPERTY, PUBLIC BUILDING OR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. PROHIBITED OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. TRANSITIONAL CODE OF ORDINANCES PROHIBITING PUBLIC CAMPING AND SLEEPING ON ANY PUBLIC PROPERTY. PROVIDING FOR EXCEPTIONS. PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT. PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS AND INTENT, AND PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION CONFLICTS. SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS ORDINANCE IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ON FIRST READING, PROMPTED BY A LAW THAT WAS PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE EARLIER THIS YEAR. THIS ORDINANCE IS BEING PROPOSED TO BE ADOPTED TO DEMONSTRATE COMPLIANCE WITH THIS NEW, FLORIDA STATUTE. SECTION 125 .0231. BASICALLY, THE NEW LAW PROHIBITS MUNICIPALITIES FROM[01:05:10]
ALLOWING ANY PERSON TO ENGAGE IN PUBLIC CAMPING OR SLEEPING ON ANY PUBLIC PROPERTY, PUBLIC BUILDING, OR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. THE VILLAGE GENERALLY ALREADY DOESN'T ALLOW THIS WITH RESPECT TO PARKS OR ANY OTHER PROPERTY TYPICALLY HANDLED VIA TRESPASS PROCESS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION IS PRETTY STRICT. THE ADVICE THAT MY OFFICE HAS GIVEN TO OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE IS TO DEMONSTRATE COMPLIANCE WITH THIS NEW STATUTE, TO PASS AN EXPRESS ORDINANCE PROVISION THAT EXPRESSLY TRACKS THE EXACT REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATUTE, SO THAT WE CAN POINT TO IT TO SHOW THAT WE ARE COMPLYING WITH IT.IN PARTICULAR, THERE'S AN INTERESTING PART OF THE STATUTE THAT WILL GO INTO EFFECT IN JANUARY. IF SOMEONE BELIEVES THAT A GOVERNMENT IS ALLOWING PUBLIC CAMPING OR SLEEPING ON PUBLIC PROPERTY OR ON PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, ALLOWING A CAMP TO SPRING UP OR WHAT HAVE YOU IN A PARK, THEN THAT PERSON CAN ACTUALLY SUE THE MUNICIPALITY. AND OF COURSE, LIKE A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE LEGISLATURE PUTS TOGETHER, THEY CAN SUE AND THEN RECOVER THEIR ATTORNEY'S FEES. SO IT'S INTENDED TO BE THE TYPE OF THING WHERE IF FOLKS GO IF GOVERNMENTS GO VERY OFF PAGE ON THIS, IT'S KIND OF A PRIVATE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM FOR PEOPLE TO GET SUED AND RECOVER ATTORNEY'S FEES AND SO ON. WE DON'T WANT THE VILLAGE OR ANY OF THE GOVERNMENTS WE REPRESENT TO GET ANYWHERE NEAR THAT. SO, THE ADVICE WE'VE GIVEN ALL OF OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IS TO PASS AN ORDINANCE TO EXPRESSLY TRACK THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATUTE, AND THEN THAT WILL BE THERE. SO WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT WITH THIS NEW LAW. SO WITH THAT, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING, AND I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY.
ANY COUNCIL COMMENTS OR IF THERE IS NO COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE. ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, SIR. OKAY MOTION. MAYOR, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER HAD A QUESTION REAL QUICK. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. SO AS WE'RE GROWING, THIS WOULD ACTUALLY PROHIBIT HOMELESSNESS. RIGHT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. LET ME LET ME GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THAT. THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT PROHIBIT HOMELESSNESS. HOMELESSNESS IS A IS A STATE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A STATE OF BEING OR WHAT HAVE YOU. RIGHT THIS PROHIBITS INDIVIDUALS FROM CAMPING OR SLEEPING ON GOVERNMENT PROPERTY. OKAY SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT OF WAYS ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET, ON THE SIDEWALKS, ON THE STREET ITSELF, WHICH AT LEAST FROM WHAT I SEE ON TV DOES APPARENTLY HAPPEN IN SOME PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. YEAH, ANY, ANY SORT OF PUBLIC PROPERTY WITHIN THE VILLAGE. SO IT JUST GOES BACK TO MY QUESTION. SO IF A PERSON DOESN'T HAVE A IS HOMELESS, RIGHT. I KNOW WE'RE NOT IF A PERSON IS HOMELESS AND THEY'RE SLEEPING ON PROPERTY, GOVERNMENT PROPERTY. OUR PROPERTY. RIGHT. YES MA'AM. THAT PERSON. WHAT WHAT'S THE CONSEQUENCE FOR THAT PERSON? AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, THE CONSEQUENCE WOULD BE UNDER THE ORDINANCE THAT A CODE ENFORCEMENT OR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, OPERATING WITHIN THE VILLAGE, CAN ULTIMATELY COULD CITE THAT PERSON MORE OFTEN. IT WOULD SIMPLY BE TO DIRECT THAT PERSON TO LEAVE. AND THEN IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT PERSON LEAVING, THE INVOLVEMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR TRESPASSING AND SO ON. AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, THE PROCESS PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE WOULD HOW WE WOULD DEAL WITH THINGS NOW. OKAY I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND IN OUR DEVELOPMENT AS A AS THE VILLAGE GROWS, JUST WANTING TO BE CLEAR WITH THAT. YES, MA'AM. CURRENTLY, WHAT WE WILL DO JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION IS IF WE HAVE REPEAT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE REPETITIVE COMING TO OUR PARKS AND SLEEPING, WE WILL ISSUE WHAT WE CALL TRESPASSING, ON THAT INDIVIDUAL. AND THEN WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT SEES THAT THEY'RE THERE AGAIN, THEN THEY WILL ENGAGE AND ASK THEM TO LEAVE AND STAFF ALSO HAS THE ABILITY TO ASK THEM TO LEAVE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. SO THAT JUST PREVENTS US FROM HAVING TO DO THAT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ONE ADDITIONAL PIECE THAT I DIDN'T GO INTO IN THE INITIAL EXPLANATION HERE, THAT'S ALSO IN
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THIS NEW STATUTE, IS, THIS APPLIES TO CITIES TO MUNICIPALITIES AND TO COUNTIES.OKAY. BUT IT DOES DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WITH COUNTIES. IT DOES ACTUALLY GIVE COUNTIES, NOT MUNICIPALITIES, AN OPTION TO DESIGNATE CERTAIN PROPERTIES WHERE THEY WOULD ALLOW THIS. BUT I WILL TELL YOU, IT'S SUBJECT TO A WHOLE BUNCH OF REGULATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS.
AND, PURSUANT TO, DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILY REGULATIONS AND SO ON, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY JURISDICTIONS ACTUALLY DOING THAT. AND AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND THIS IS FOR THIS IS RELATING TO FOLKS CAMPING OUTSIDE. THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANY REGULATION OF A DESIGNATED ACTUAL HOMELESS SHELTER WHERE FOLKS MAY BE INSIDE, YOU KNOW, PURSUANT TO WHAT HAVE YOU. SO, OKAY, OKAY, WE GOT PUBLIC COMMENT. YES. OKAY YES, SIR. MISS GLORIA JENNINGS. HEY MY QUESTION IS, WILL THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT OR THE COUNTY SHERIFF? ARE THEY AWARE OF THIS? SPEAKER OF THE MIC. OH, ARE THEY AWARE OF THIS ORDINANCE OR. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, WE. YEAH, MY REASON IS THAT. YES, MA'AM, I WAS A PARK RANGER FOR SOME TIME AND FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND I. AND AT THE PARK HERE IN BIG MOUNTAIN PARK, THEY WERE I WENT EARLY, LIKE SATURDAY MORNING, AND THEY WERE JUST, LIKE GETTING UP, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE THEY HAD SLEPT ALL NIGHT. SO I WAS WONDERING I NEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT IT. I NEVER REPORTED IT. BUT SO I WAS WONDERING IF THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT IS AWARE OF THAT, THAT, THAT STIPULATION. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
THIS, THIS ORDINANCE HAS NOT BEEN CIRCULATED WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT YET. I CERTAINLY CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. AS I MENTIONED, THIS ORDINANCE IS ACTUALLY NOT CHANGING MUCH OF ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY THE CASE THAT THAT THE VILLAGE MANAGES, YOU KNOW, OR DOES ITS BEST TO MANAGE INSTANCES WHERE WE MAY HAVE FOLKS SLEEPING IN THE PARKS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, AND HANDLE THAT PROCESS ULTIMATELY, FIRST, BY ASKING FOLKS TO LEAVE. AND IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE ASSISTANCE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. SO WE CERTAINLY CAN CIRCULATE IT WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. BUT THIS ISN'T REALLY CHANGING ANY OF THOSE FACTS ON THE GROUND. IT'S MORE OF JUST PUTTING THIS IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN POINT TO IT AND SAY WE HAVE A VERY CLEAR POLICY, THAT THIS IS WHAT IT IS TO COMPLY WITH THE STATUTE. AND I CAN TELL YOU THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS ALWAYS PATROLLED THE PARKS AND ASKED PEOPLE TO LEAVE. AND IF THEY DON'T LEAVE, THEY ISSUE THEM A TRESPASS WARNING. AND THEN IF THEY DON'T LEAVE, THEY TAKE THEM TO STEWART. SO BUT ANYWAYS, OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION, HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY BROWN. COUNCILWOMAN BROWN ALL IN FAVOR? I ASK UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL GO AHEAD
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ORDINANCE NO. 09-2024 -- AN ORDINANCE OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, AMENDING SECTION 3-5.7 “TEMPORARY USES AND SPECIAL EVENTS” OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS; CREATING SECTION 3-5.10 “SPECIAL EVENTS”, OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS; PROVIDING FOR THE REVIEW AND ISSUANCE OF SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS BY THE VILLAGE MANAGER; PROVIDING FOR REGULATION OF SPECIAL EVENTS; PROVIDING FOR APPEAL PROCEDURES; PROVIDING DUTIES OF PERMITTEES; PROVIDING FOR REGULATION OF PUBLIC CONDUCT DURING SPECIAL EVENTS; PROVIDING DEFINITIONS; PROVIDING FOR CONFORMING REVISIONS; AND PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS, CODIFICATION, CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
]AND HANDLE THE NEXT ORDINANCE. THIS NEXT ORDINANCE IS ORDINANCE NUMBER ZERO NINE. DASH 2024.BEFORE YOU ON FIRST READING AN ORDINANCE OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, AMENDING SECTION 3-5.7 TEMPORARY USES AND SPECIAL OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS CREATING SECTION 3-5. TEN SPECIAL EVENTS OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS PROVIDING FOR THE REVIEW AND ISSUANCE OF SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS BY THE VILLAGE MANAGER. PROVIDING FOR REGULATION OF SPECIAL EVENTS. PROVIDING FOR APPEAL PROCEDURES. PROVIDING DUTIES OF PERMITTEES. PROVIDING FOR REGULATION OF PUBLIC COMMENT CONDUCT DURING SPECIAL EVENTS. PROVIDING DEFINITIONS, PROVIDING FOR CONFORMING REVISIONS AND PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS. CODIFICATION CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS ORDINANCE IS THE CULMINATION OF A NUMBER OF MONTHS OF DISCUSSION BY THE COUNCIL, BY THE PCAB, AND A LOT OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK THAT'S BEEN HEARD RELATING TO THE PROVISIONS CONCERNING SPECIAL EVENTS AND SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS, MEETINGS DATING BACK AT LEAST TO APRIL. AND THEN DISCUSSIONS EVEN BEFORE THAT. GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW.
WE'VE DISCUSSED IT A NUMBER OF TIMES, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO HIT A COUPLE HIGH POINTS OF WHAT YOU HAVE IN THIS VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE, FIRST THING, THE ORDINANCE DOES IS BASICALLY SEPARATE OUT EVERYTHING RELATING TO SPECIAL EVENTS INTO ITS OWN SECTION. IT CURRENTLY IS
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ACTUALLY IN HALF OF A SUBSECTION OR HALF OF A SECTION OF AN LDR PROVISION. WE WANT TO MAKE IT A LOT CLEARER. THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH HERE AND NOTHING ELSE. WE, ADDS A NUMBER OF DEFINITIONS TO TRY TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS TO THAT ORDINANCE. KEY POINT THAT WAS THE DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL, ONE OF THE INITIAL POLICY DIRECTIONS IN IN WORKING ON THE SPECIAL EVENTS ORDINANCE WAS TO VEST THE AUTHORITY FOR ISSUING SPECIAL EVENTS PERMITS IN THE VILLAGE MANAGER TO ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF SPECIAL EVENTS, TO ALWAYS HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE VILLAGE COUNCIL, WE ADDED A PROVISION THAT MAKES CLEAR THAT APPLICATIONS CAN BE SUBMITTED UP TO 365 DAYS PRIOR TO A PROPOSED EVENT, TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS IF THEY HAVE EVENTS COMING UP MONTHS IN ADVANCE, THEY CAN GET THAT IN AND GET THINGS WELL PLANNED EARLY. THE WHEN THE ORDINANCE HAD BEEN IN ITS PRIOR DRAFTS AND GONE TO THE PCAOB, AS YOU'LL RECALL, RECALL IT ACTUALLY WAS BEFORE THE PCAOB TWICE, THE FIRST TIME IT WENT BEFORE THE PCAOB, THEY HAD SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SOME CHANGES. WE BROUGHT IT BACK TO THEM A SECOND TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE IMPLEMENTATION. IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE CHANGES AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PCAOB, THE ORDINANCE NOW INCLUDES AN ENTITLEMENT TO A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING WITH VILLAGE STAFF. TO DISCUSS SPECIAL EVENT APPLICATION AND PERMIT REQUIREMENTS. PRELIMINARILY, PRELIMINARILY REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND RELATED DOCUMENTATION FOR COMPLETENESS, AND DISCUSS EVENT LOGISTICS. AND THE ORDINANCE HAS LANGUAGE IN IT THAT STRONGLY ENCOURAGES PROSPECTIVE APPLICANTS TO USE THIS PROCESS AT LEAST 15 DAYS PRIOR TO THE FORMAL APPLICATION SUBMISSION, TO AVOID ANY RISK OF DENIAL FOR NONCOMPLIANCE. I THINK THIS IS USEFUL BECAUSE ONE OF THE OTHER, CHANGES THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN THE ORDINANCE, PURSUANT TO COUNCIL DIRECTION WAS TO, SHORTEN UP THE LEAD TIME ON THE, THE DEADLINE TO SUBMIT IT FROM 60 DAYS PRIOR TO THE EVENT TO 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THE EVENT. THIS, OF COURSE, IS A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD, IF YOU MAKE IT A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME AND FOLKS GO RIGHT UP TO THAT EDGE, IF THERE ARE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS WITH IT, THERE'S A RISK THAT THERE MAY BE PROBLEMS THAT CAN'T BE SORTED OUT AND SO ON WITH IT BEING SO CLOSE. SO THAT PRE-APPLICATION PROCESS WILL HOPEFULLY GIVE FOLKS SOME CONFIDENCE THAT THEY'LL KNOW WHERE THINGS ARE GOING WHEN THEY SUBMIT, IN ADDITION, BASED ON COUNCIL AND PCAOB FEEDBACK, THE ORDINANCE HAS A NUMBER OF EXCLUSIONS FROM THE DEFINITION OF SPECIAL EVENTS. I WON'T READ THROUGH ALL OF THEM, BUT YOU'LL RECALL FROM YOUR PRIOR DISCUSSIONS SOME OF THOSE EXCLUSIONS INCLUDE, TYPES OF PERSONAL EVENTS THAT ARE GENERALLY NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, WEDDINGS, FUNERALS, WAKES, BIRTHDAY PARTIES, AND SIMILAR EVENTS LIKE THAT, AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF OTHER EXCLUSIONS. THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ON THE COUNCIL AND THE PCAOB THAT, THE VILLAGE WOULD BE GETTING INTO PEOPLE'S BUSINESS TOO MUCH, QUITE FRANKLY, AND GETTING INTO THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT THE VILLAGE DIDN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO GET INTO, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS WERE RUNNING SMOOTHLY. SO THAT'S THE ORIGIN OF THOSE EXCLUSIONS, WE, FURTHER WORK WAS DONE WITH REGARD TO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRE RESCUE SUPPORT, IF SPECIAL EVENTS ARE ESTIMATED TO HAVE 250 OR MORE ATTENDEES, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO CHECK IN WITH, MARTIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND FIRE RESCUE FOR EVALUATION TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT, SUPPORT FROM THOSE AGENCIES WILL BE NECESSARY. AND IF SO, THEN, THAT THEY ENGAGE THOSE AGENCIES FOR, STAFFING AT THE LEVELS THAT THOSE AGENCIES RECOMMEND, FURTHER, THE, ORDINANCE PRESIDES, PROVIDES FOR SOME PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE VILLAGE MANAGER TO NOTIFY APPLICANTS OF THEIR DECISIONS WITHIN FIVE DAYS, AND THEN PROVIDING NOTICE TO THE COUNCIL AND OTHER STAFF MEMBERS ON THE GRANT OF A PERMIT, ONE THING I WILL, POINT OUT, AS YOU'LL RECALL, THE ORDINANCE HAS AN APPEAL PROCESS FOR DENIED APPLICATIONS. I WILL NOTE THAT THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PCAOB, AND IT'S INCORPORATED INTO THE VERSION OF THE[01:20:04]
ORDINANCE THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT FOR FIRST READING, BECAUSE THEY MADE A VERY STRONG RECOMMENDATION ON THIS POINT THAT THE ORDINANCE PROVIDE FOR APPEALS OF DENIALS OF A, OF A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. NOW I KNOW THERE WAS A STRONG THOUGHT IN ALL OF THIS WAS TO AVOID, SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS HAVING TO WHEN CERTAIN CATEGORIES ARE TICKED, ALWAYS HAVING TO COME BEFORE THE VILLAGE COUNCIL THAT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED IN THIS EVERY SINGLE APPLICATION THAT COMES THROUGH THE DEFAULT PROCESS IS IT GOES THROUGH WITH THE VILLAGE MANAGER AND THAT'S IT. THERE'S NO CATEGORY OF, SPECIAL EVENT THAT HAS TO BE ROUTED TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. HOWEVER WHAT'S BUILT INTO THIS VERSION OF IT, AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PCAOB IS IF, AFTER GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS AND AGAIN, WITH A WHOLE LOT MORE PROCESS ADDED IN PRE-APPLICATION PROCESS, GOING THROUGH IT ALL, WORKING THINGS OUT AND SO ON, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT FOLKS HAVE HAVE, NOTED AS CONCERNS BEING MADE EASIER, MORE STREAMLINED, THAT EVEN WITH ALL THAT, IF SOMEHOW IT COMES THROUGH AND IT'S DENIED, THERE IS AN APPEAL TO THE COUNCIL. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN THERE WITH ALL THOSE OTHER PROCEDURAL CHANGES. THE HOPE WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE AN OCCURRENCE THAT WOULD ALMOST NEVER HAPPEN. FINALLY, THE ORDINANCE, ANOTHER STREAMLINING, IF YOU WILL, THE ORDINANCE ADDRESSES INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS GENERALLY DONE THAT BEFORE, BUT PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AND ALSO AN ALTERNATIVE FOR THE CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED THAT FOLKS ARE HAVING TO SPEND MONEY TO ENGAGE INSURANCE BEFORE THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, AND SO ON. IT PROVIDES FOR AN ALTERNATIVE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THAT YOU'VE APPLIED, THAT YOU'VE YOU'VE FILED FOR AN APPLICATION FOR LIABILITY INSURANCE TO SHOW THAT YOU'VE YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS, KNOW YOU CAN GET IT, SHOW THE EVIDENCE OF THAT, AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE A PERMIT GRANTED, YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT PROOF WITHIN THREE DAYS AFTERWARDS. SO IT'S JUST KIND OF THE LAST STEP IN THAT PROCESS. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE MAJOR POINTS YOU FIND IN THIS OMNIBUS REVISION OF THE SPECIAL EVENTS ORDINANCE. AFTER ALL THE DIFFERENT MEETINGS YOU ALL HAVE.AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING, AND I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. YES. IF THEY, IF THERE IS A REQUEST TO REVIEW OR WHATEVER IT IS, I DOES IS THERE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT THEY HAVE TO SHOW JUST CAUSE WHY THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE COUNCIL TO REVIEW IT? DON'T THEY HAVE TO HAVE JUST CAUSE OR IS IT JUST THEY JUST WANT TO SAY NO, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. SO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK AT OUR EXACT LANGUAGE HERE BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE FOR A JUST CAUSE.
UNDERSTOOD SO, THE LANGUAGE, THE LANGUAGE AS IT IS IN HERE CURRENTLY IS THAT, AND THIS IS THIS IS LANGUAGE BASICALLY KIND OF CRIBBED FROM FROM MOST LAND USE OR LDR RELATED APPEAL PROCESSES, AN APPLICANT AGGRIEVED BY A DENIAL OF A PERMIT SHALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPEAL THE DECISION TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL GIVES A TIME LIMIT FOR IT. HOW IT WILL BE PLACED ON AN AGENDA, AND THEN THE VILLAGE COUNCIL SHALL THEREAFTER SUSTAIN OR MODIFY THE ACTION ON THE APPLICATION FOR SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STANDARDS OF THIS SECTION. SO WHAT THIS MEANS IS THIS THAT IT'S NOT WE DON'T LIKE IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL AND, JUST THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. WE'RE JUST GOING TO PREVAIL ON THEM. JUST GIVE IT TO US. WHAT HAVE YOU. ALL IT IS, IS IT'S AN APPEAL ON THE MERITS AND REVIEWING. DID THE VILLAGE MANAGER APPLY THE STANDARDS OF THE SECTION REVIEWING THAT AND BASED ON DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT IT, THE STANDARDS WERE APPLIED EITHER SUSTAIN THE ACTION OR MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THE ACTION. SO THE, THE INTENTION IS IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A FREE FOR ALL. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, IF THERE IS A CONCERN THAT, THAT THE STANDARDS WEREN'T APPLIED, IT COME TO THE COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL DECIDES WHETHER OR NOT THE STANDARDS WERE APPLIED.
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OKAY. SO THERE'S NO BACK AND FORTH. THERE'S NO IT'S JUST SHOWING THE FACTS. THIS IS WHY IT WAS DENIED, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS THIS WAS WHAT WAS NOT FULFILLED. AND THIS IS THE REASON THAT IT WAS IT WAS DECLINED. SO WE SAY YEAH, WE AGREE WITH THAT OR NO, WE DON'T.IT'S THAT SIMPLE. YES THANK YOU PRETTY MUCH. AND I'M BASED ON ON FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION. THERE BASED ON THE CONCERN I THINK I'M HEARING. THERE'S A LITTLE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF LANGUAGE WE COULD ADD TO SAY EFFECTIVELY THAT, THE REVIEW OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL IS SIMPLY TO EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT THE, THE, STANDARDS WERE APPROPRIATELY APPLIED AND IF THEY WERE, IT SUSTAINED. IT KIND OF IT STANDS LAYS OUT THE BURDEN A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT IT IS. IT'S COMING IN.
IT'S WHAT WE LAWYERS CALL IT WOULD NOT BE WHAT WE CALL A DE NOVO REVIEW. IT WOULD BE, WAS THE PAST DECISION, SUPPORTED BY THE EVIDENCE? YES. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THERE. SO IT'S VERY CLEAR TO ANYBODY ELSE. YES. I HAVE A COMMENT, COUNCILWOMAN PALMER. OKAY THANK YOU, I MEAN, YOU SAID THAT IT WAS THE LANGUAGE SPOKEN THERE ABOUT 30 DAYS. OH, OH. I'M SORRY. YEAH.
OKAY. SO IT WAS CHANGED FROM 30. IT WAS CHANGED FROM 30 DAYS TO 60 DAYS. THE OTHER WAY AROUND, IT WAS IT WAS YOU HAD TO SUBMIT, 60 DAYS BEFORE AT LEAST 60 DAYS BEFORE THE EVENT. IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN SHORTENED TO BE AT LEAST 30 DAYS BEFORE THE EVENT. I THINK THE GENERAL INTENTION IS, INTENDED TO MAKE THINGS EASIER. SO THAT, AND MORE STREAMLINED. SO THAT YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO PLAN MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS OUT FOR AN EVENT. WELL, EVEN THOUGH THE ORDINANCE STILL ENCOURAGES YOU IF YOU ARE PLANNING MONTHS AND MONTHS OUT, GET IT IN EARLY. OKAY. AND I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE YOU ALL ALSO SAID THAT COULD IT COULD BECOME A PROBLEM PARAPHRASING WHAT YOU SAID, IT COULD IT COULD BECOME A PROBLEM. SO I'M JUST THINKING, WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL TO, TO THE PLANNERS TO HAVE THAT 60 DAYS? THIS WAS A DISCUSSION AT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT THE COUNCIL HAD, BUT YEAH, COUNCIL MEMBER, I BELIEVE THAT DISCUSSION MAY HAVE BEEN BEFORE YOU WERE ON THE COUNCIL BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON, YOU KNOW, FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS, SO IT CUTS BOTH WAYS. ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE 60 DAYS GIVES MORE TIME FOR STAFF TO REVIEW IT. AND POTENTIALLY IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT NEED JUST A LITTLE TUNE UPS ON IT TO, YOU KNOW, SUPPLEMENT OR WHAT HAVE YOU, ALTERNATIVELY, THOUGH, YOU END UP AND THIS WAS A DRIVING CONCERN WHEN THE INITIAL DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL WAS PUT IT DOWN TO 30. THE CONCERN, ABOUT 60 WAS THAT YOU END UP IN SITUATIONS WHERE FOLKS SIMPLY CAN'T HAVE A SMALL EVENT THAT THAT BECOMES APPARENT, YOU KNOW, 45 DAYS BEFORE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A GREAT EVENT TO BE ABLE TO PUT ON IT KIND OF MAKES IT CUMBERSOME TO HAVE SUCH A LONG LEAD TIME BEFORE IT. SO THAT WAS, I THINK, THE ORIGIN OF THE INITIAL DIRECTION MAKE IT 30 TO ALLEVIATE THAT CONCERN, THOUGH, ABOUT THE GOING FROM 60 TO 30. SO I MENTIONED WE'VE GOT A LOT OF LANGUAGE, A LOT OF PROCEDURE IN HERE NOW ENCOURAGING FOLKS DON'T WAIT TILL THAT 30 DAYS. RIGHT. DON'T WAIT TO IT. IT'S GOING SHORTER. YOU KNOW. NOT TO CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR FOLKS GOING SHORTER SO THAT FOLKS CAN IF YOU'RE GOING TO, PARTICULARLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SMALL EVENT OR ONE WHERE YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T GET AROUND TO PUTTING IT INTO WHATEVER, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RUN INTO A PROBLEM WHERE, OH, IT'S 55 DAYS AND NOW YOU'RE IN TROUBLE. OKAY OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? NO OKAY, WELL, I READ I READ THE WHOLE ORDINANCE, AND THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. AND I'M NOT SURE MAYBE IF THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR IT OR IT BELONGS IN THE IN THE PARKS OPS PLAN, BUT, SINCE WE'RE GOING TO BE EVENTUALLY SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE, PUT MONEY INTO THESE FIELDS, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT FIELDS, SPORTS FIELDS ARE ONLY USED FOR SPORTS EVENTS. ONLY SPORTING EVENTS, BECAUSE I WOULD HATE, FIRST OF ALL, TO MAKE ANY
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FIELD ANY WORSE THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW. AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE US SPEND MONEY AND HAVE A FIELD DESTROYED NOW WE HAVE A SPECIAL EVENTS DISCUSSION IN FRONT OF US, AND I WANT THAT SPECIAL EVENT TO HAPPEN. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT ONLY ALLOWS PEOPLE TO USE THE PARK, NOT THE PARK. THE SPORTS FIELD, THE FIELD ITSELF, JUST FOR SPORTING ACTIVITIES AND.WHEN WE GET TO THE DISCUSSION ITEM, WE'LL GET TO THAT. BUT BU, I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE DO THAT BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T THINK PUTTING MONEY INTO FIELDS AND HAVING TRACTOR TRAILERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND GOLF CARTS AND EVERYTHING DRIVE ON THEM, I DON'T, I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. SO I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THINGS IN BOTH PLACES. WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND THINGS AT BIG MOUND AND LOOKING TO EXPAND THINGS. AND BOOKER PARK NOW, I SAID A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M WORKING WITH PEOPLE, RIGHT? AND THINGS NEED TO GET DONE AND WE NEED TO DO THEM RIGHT. SO I THINK THE FUTURE NOT SO FAR OFF THINGS WILL HAPPEN. AND SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO MAKE A DEAL BEFORE YOU BRING IT FORWARD, YOU KNOW, SO, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M WORKING ON. I'M WORKING ON MAKING A DEAL. AND WHEN A DEAL IS DONE, THEN IT'LL COME FORWARD. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU GUYS KNOW, BUT FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS I'VE BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY TO MAKE A DEAL WITH CLYDE ON THE AIRPORT, WAGED MY WITNESS TO IT. HE'S BEEN THERE WITH ME SEVERAL TIME. OKAY. AND WE HAD A GREAT DEAL WITH CLYDE. CLYDE WANTED IT TO HAPPEN, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WERE PEOPLE IN HIS FAMILY THAT DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN BECAUSE WHEN I CAME TO THIS VILLAGE MANY, MANY YEARS AGO AND I SAT UNDER A TREE AND SAID, HOW DID I GET HERE? WHERE AM I? AND THEN OVER THE PAST 33 YEARS, I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE PLACE. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. SO IF I'M GOING TO BE HERE, I'M GOING TO KEEP WORKING TO TRY AND MAKE THIS VILLAGE PROFITABLE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I AM WORKING ON. LIKE I'VE SAID BEFORE, MANY, MANY TIMES, I'M ENGAGED JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY. AND TARON IS MY WITNESS BECAUSE SHE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT I'M DOING. AND I THINK THERE'S GOOD THINGS COMING FOR BOOKER PARK AND FOR BIG MOUND PARK. BUT WE GOT TO SET RULES IN PLACE AND WE GOT TO ABIDE BY THEM. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE. SO IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO PUT THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. WHEN I WEAR MY HAT, I HAVE SOMETHING ELSE I CAN MAKE A COMMENT. GO AHEAD. MAYOR, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR LOVE AND EVERYTHING FOR THE VILLAGE.
I JUST WANT US TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT LANGUAGE, SIMPLY BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANY EVENTS IN BOOKER PARK AND I KNOW WE, WE AGREE THAT DIFFERENT THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. I JUST DON'T WANT BOOKER PARK TO BECOME A PLACE THAT WE CAN'T DO ACTIVITIES OTHER THAN, SPORTS THAT THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN IS THAT BOOKER PARK WOULD NOT BE A PLACE THAT ONLY SPORTS ARE AVAILABLE TO DO THERE. I FEEL THAT THE RESIDENTS SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE DIFFERENT EVENTS THERE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU TAKE THAT AWAY AND SAY, OKAY, YOU CAN'T, THIS IS ONLY FOR SPORT. YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING HERE. YOU'RE YOU'RE IN ESSENCE SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO FORCE YOU TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEN THAT'S GOING TO BE A KICKBACK AND NOT ONLY IS IT GOING TO BE A KICKBACK, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A DISCOURAGEMENT TO THE RESIDENTS OF THAT COMMUNITY, AND IT'S GOING TO BE ALMOST LIKE WE'RE GOING TO TELL Y'ALL WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO DO IT, WHICH HAS BEEN THE STATEMENT PRIOR TO NOW. AND THAT'S NOT THAT'S A THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME AS WELL AS A FEAR THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD THEN SAY THE COUNCIL IS NOT FOR BOOKER PARK. I JUST WANT US TO BE VERY CAREFUL OF THE LANGUAGE WE USE IN ANYTHING, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SPORTS PARK AT BOOKER PARK, THAT'S GREAT. THERE ALSO SHOULD BE AVAILABLE, PLACE ON THAT
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FIELD OR THE OTHER PARK THAT THE MEMBERS CAN ENJOY. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PARK. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FIELD. PERIOD. WELL, THE FIELD, IF WE IF WE IF WE, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE TRANSPARENT. THE FIELD WAS USED FOR A SPECIAL EVENT AND IT AND IT KICKED UP SO MUCH CONTROVERSY AND THAT FEAR MAY BE BE ASKED TO BE USED AGAIN. BUT WITH LANGUAGE IN WITH THE LANGUAGE CHANGE THAT WOULD DETER THAT EVENT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. AND WE WENT OVER AND OVER, BUT WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE MEETING AND ALL OF THIS. SO IF WE IF WE'VE HAD A MEETING, WE'VE COME TO AN AGREEMENT. AND THEN NOW TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE DOING IT, THAT EVERYTHING WAS DONE IN VAIN. THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT SEEMS. YOU KNOW, THAT EVERY, EVERY MEETING THAT THEY HAVE HAD AND WITH THE LANGUAGE BEING CHANGED, IT WAS FOR WHAT? WELL I THINK THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS WHAT IT'S TRYING TO DO. IS IT MAKING IT EASIER FOR YOU TO COME IN AND GET GET A PERMIT TO HAVE AN EVENT? IT'S GIVING YOU MORE TIME. YOU CAN YOU CAN PUT YOUR PERMIT IN A YEAR IN ADVANCE. YOU CAN YOU CAN DO IT ANYTIME AND YOU CAN. AND IF YOU'RE LATE, INSTEAD OF 60 DAYS, IF YOU CAME IN 58 DAYS, YOU WERE OUT OF TIME. WELL, NOW WITH THE 30 DAYS YOU GOT, YOU GOT A MONTH TO BEFORE YOUR EVENT TO COME AND GET A PERMIT. WELL OKAY. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S THE. OKAY. YOU SAID THAT, BUT PRIOR TO THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS CHANGING THE LANGUAGE. NOT THAT EVEN IF THEY KEEP IT AT 30 DAYS, THAT'S FINE. BUT IF YOU CHANGE THE LANGUAGE THAT THAT SPECIAL EVENTS CANNOT HAPPEN AT A AND I'M PARTICULARLY TALKING ABOUT BOOKER PARK, IF, IF NO SPECIAL EVENTS CAN HAPPEN ON THAT FIELD, SPORTING EVENTS, SPECIAL SPORTING SPORTING EVENTS CAN THAT'S THAT'S WHAT SPORTING IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND TENS OF THOUSANDS OR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO FIX THESE FIELDS, OKAY. WE CAN'T WE CAN'T HAVE THEM BEING USED FOR EVERYTHING. OKAY. BUT AT CURRENTLY WE EITHER WANT A SPORTING PROGRAM OR WE DON'T WANT A SPORTING PROGRAM. WELL, I GET THAT, BUT CURRENTLY WE ONLY HAD 111 GROUP THAT HAVE HAVE COME FORWARD TO HAVE AN EVENT THERE AND THEY CAN STILL HAVE THEIR EVENT THERE. YOU KNOW, THEY CAN HAVE THEIR EVENT THERE AND THEY WE CAN CLOSE THAT ROAD AND THEY CAN USE THAT ROAD TO PARK ALL THE VEHICLES ON IT. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE THE TRAILERS, THEY'RE STAGE. THEY CAN PUT THAT ON THE ROAD AND THEY CAN USE THE PARK, PUT DOWN BLANKETS AND WATCH YOUR SHOW.YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT HEAVY VEHICLES ON THAT PARK. WHEREAS IRRIGATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS ON THERE. I MEAN, THERE ARE DAYS AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT YOU HAVE TO SHUT IT DOWN BECAUSE IT RAINED FOR THREE DAYS, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T EVEN YOU CAN'T PLAY ON IT. IT DAMAGES FIELD. I THINK WE ESTABLISHED ALREADY THAT THAT THAT PARK IS REALLY NOT UP TO PAR ANYWAY. BUT YET THEY PLAY SOCCER OKAY. ALL THE TIME THERE. OKAY THE LAST EVENT, I'M JUST THINKING, IF I, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT THE PARK HAS TO COME UP TO PAR, AM I CORRECT IF YOU GET A FLAT TIRE, DO YOU KEEP DRIVING ON YOUR RIM AND RUIN YOUR RIM? NO. YOU STOP AND YOU CHANGE YOUR TIRE, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE MECHANIC, YOU MIGHT DO THAT. I THINK ONE OTHER THING, JUST FOR INFORMATION FOR THE COUNCIL IS WE HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT THE VACANT PROPERTY THAT SURROUNDS THAT PARK HAS BEEN SOLD TO RESIDENTIAL. AND SO AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL SURROUNDING THAT PARK. SO THESE EVENTS, YOU KNOW, YOU HEARD FROM ONE NEIGHBOR THAT YOU KNOW, HOW DISRUPTIVE IT CAN BE FOR RESIDENTIAL. SO I THINK THAT THIS DISCUSSION, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER PROPERTY. I MEAN, THE VILLAGE NEEDS TO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE KIND OF VENUES, WE NEED TO FIND WHERE WE CAN DO THAT. THAT'S NOT GOING TO DISRUPT RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, IN MY OPINION. YOU KNOW, AND I AGREE WITH THAT. I AGREE WE DO. BUT I JUST WANTED JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT WHATEVER LANGUAGE WE PUT IN THE ORDINANCE, THAT IT DOES NOT SINGLE OUT ANYTHING.
YES, RESIDENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE PEACE AND QUIET. I TOTALLY GET ALL OF THAT. I'M JUST I JUST WANT US TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT LANGUAGE BEING PUT IN. THAT'S THAT'S IT. I MEAN, YOU GOT TO
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LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND THE COUNTY, TOO. I MEAN, YOU HAD YOU HAD THE SEAFOOD FESTIVAL IN SALERNO. IT GOT TOO BIG, IT GOT TOO CRAZY. AND THEY DON'T DO IT ANYMORE. PINEAPPLE FESTIVAL, JENSEN BEACH I MEAN, I REMEMBER THOSE DAYS, I WAS I USED TO WORK IT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT GOT BIG. IT IT'S IT, IT DROWNED IN ITS OWN SUCCESS. RIGHT. OKAY. AND I AGREE WITH YOU. AND THOSE PERSONS HAD MADE IT, MADE IT KNOWN THAT THEY ARE AWARE THAT THEIR EVENTS ARE GETTING BIGGER.THEY DID MAKE THAT KNOWN. MY MAJOR CONCERN IS LET'S BE CAREFUL WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN ORDINANCE. THAT'S THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN IN THAT NO ONE FEELS ATTACKED. NO ONE FEELS, YOU KNOW, LISTEN, I'M NOT TRYING TO ATTACK ANYBODY. WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS I'M TRYING TO CREATE A SPORTING PROGRAM. I GOT YOU, OKAY? I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO CREATE A SAFE PARK FOR THE KIDS.
I'M TRYING TO EXPAND THAT WHOLE AREA. RIGHT. OKAY. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD TO TRY AND GET THAT BUILDING. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CRA TO TRY AND GET THE LOT. WE'RE WORKING. WE'RE WORKING HARD TO TRY AND GET THESE THINGS DONE. AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT THIS NEXT EVENT BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BEEN APPLIED FOR. OKAY. BUT MOVING FORWARD FROM THAT EVENT, IF WE PUT MONEY INTO THE PARK, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TRACTOR TRAILERS DRIVING OVER. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO PUT THE MONEY IN THERE RIGHT? I MEAN, HOW CAN YOU TAKE MONEY AND JUST THROW IT AWAY? YOU CAN'T. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE HAVE AND WE SPEND. THAT'S TRUE. AND WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR ASSETS BECAUSE IF WE DON'T PROTECT THEM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THEM. THAT'S TRUE. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE SAYING, AFTER WE PUT $100,000 INTO A PARK, WELL, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THIS.
YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T USE IT. SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AN EVENT BEING ON THAT FIELD. AS FAR AS PEOPLE, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH VEHICLES BEING ON THAT FIELD AND CREATING ANY MORE DAMAGE THAN WHAT'S ALREADY THER, BECAUSE THE MORE DAMAGE THAT'S THERE, THE MORE IT'S GOING TO COST YOU TO FIX IT. SO. SO WE NEED TO BE WE NEED TO HAVE THAT IN MIND BECAUSE EVERYTHING COSTS EVERYTHING COSTS MONEY. AND THE LONGER IT TAKES AND THE MORE MATERIALS THAT IT TAKES TO MAKE THAT FIELD BRING THAT FIELD UP TO PAR, THE WORSE IT IS, THE MORE IT'S GOING TO COST. OKAY, SO BY SAYING, WELL, IT'S ALREADY IN BAD SHAPE, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT WORSE. IT'S LIKE DRIVING ON THAT FLAT TIRE. AND NOW NOT ONLY HAVING TO BUY A TIRE, BUT HAVING TO GO OUT AND SPEND $2,000 ON A RIM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE EASIEST ANALOGY I CAN SAY. I MEAN, EVERYBODY CAN PICTURE THAT, RIGHT? SO, SO, I REALLY THINK THAT LANGUAGE NEEDS TO BE IN THERE. AND I UNDERSTAND I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO HAVE THEIR EVENT AND THAT'S FINE. YOU CAN HAVE YOUR EVENT, WE CAN CLOSE THE STREET. WE CAN DO THAT. WE CAN CLOSE THE STREET, AND YOU CAN USE THE STREET TO PUT YOUR STAGE ON. YOU CAN USE THE STREET TO PUT YOUR, YOUR, YOUR FOOD ON YOUR, YOUR FOOD CARTS AND STUFF. AND YOU CAN USE THE PARK, BUT NOT TO PUT A STAGE THERE. I MEAN, I THINK IT ACTUALLY WOULD BE BETTER IF YOU PICTURE IT. I JUST ME SO ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH WE HAVE THREE OTHER PEOPLE WAITING. OKAY. I'M SORRY. NO GO AHEAD.
START ON THAT. OKAY. MY QUESTION IS DID WHEN THE SWAMP FEST HAPPENED, WHAT WAS THE DAMAGES ON THE FIELD? BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE HOSTING THEIR EVENT.
WHAT? ONE TIME A YEAR, MAYBE TWO. I MEAN, HOW SEVERE WAS THE DAMAGE ON THE FIELDS? OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO UP, YOU KNOW, UPGRADE OUR FIELDS. BUT WHY WOULD WE WANT TO PUT THAT LANGUAGE IN TO OUR ORDINANCE IF WE'RE NOT READY YET TO UPGRADE OUR FIELDS? WELL, THEN WE HAVE TO ADD DAMAGES. THEN WE HAVE TO, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS AGAIN. WE HAVE TO REHASH IT ALL OVER AGAIN. WE'RE HERE NOW, OKAY? THEY CAN HAVE THEIR EVENT.
THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. OKAY? BUT WHAT DAMAGES WERE DONE. I'M TRYING TO PICTURE THAT IN MY HEAD. I MEAN, THEY YOU SAID THE TRACTOR TRAILER WAS ON THE FIELD, BUT WHAT WHAT WAS DONE? I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, UNREMARKABLE. OKAY, MAYOR, I'M SORRY. YOU'VE GOT TWO OTHER PEOPLE HERE. THE GETTING BACK AND FORTH IS TAKING A LOT OF TIME. I'M DONE. GO AHEAD. NO. GO AHEAD. I'M GOOD. I'M GOOD WITH SOME. WITH YOUR MINDFUL OF THE LANGUAGE, WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING
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ABOUT ONE EVENT. WE'LL HAVE EVENTS IN THE FUTURE. BUT THEY WE THEM THAT IS ALL OF US. THEY DIDN'T DO THIS. THEY WHO IS THEY? ANYBODY. SO WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WE USE. I, I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO MIND OUR FIELDS, OUR SPORT FIELDS. WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. I AGREE WITH THAT. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IF YOU HAVE THE FIELDS FOR JUST SPORTS IS THERE ANOTHER PLACE YOU HAVE IN MIND WITHIN THE SAME AREA? WELL, THERE THERE RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NO OTHER PLACE IN THE FUTURE THERE COULD BE. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND THAT.SO THE LANGUAGE WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THE LANGUAGE. ONCE THE LANGUAGE IS WRITTEN, IT IS WRITTEN SO THEY THEM THOSE THEY ALL OF THAT, ALL OF THAT IS US. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE FIELDS, THE SPORTS FIELDS AND USE THEM JUST FOR SPORTS, YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP OR FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY CAN HAVE. THEY, THE PEOPLE OF BOCA PARK, CAN USE, OR THE PEOPLE THAT COME FROM INDIAN TOWN. INDIAN TOWN IS BOOKER PARK, BOOKER PARK IS INDIAN TOWN. SO IF I USE THIS FIELD, THAT'S FINE. I DON'T LIVE THERE, BUT THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. IT BELONGS TO INDIAN TOWN, SO THEY IS ALL OF INDIAN TOWN. THE LANGUAGE. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HOW WE USE THE LANGUAGE. AND NOT POINT OUT PEOPLE. I'M NOT POINTING OUT. NO, NO, I'M NOT SAYING. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I'M JUST SAYING WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WE USE. I THINK WE CAN TAKE CARE OF OUR FIELDS. THE WAY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, SPORTING FIELDS. WE'VE NOT DONE ANYTHING TO THOSE FIELDS IN EONS. THAT'S BECAUSE WE DIDN'T OWN OURSELVES. NOW WE DO OWN OURSELVES, AND MONEY IS HARD TO COME BY. SO WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF HOW WE SPEND OUR MONEY. SO I AGREE WITH THAT. BUT WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYING THE TAXES TO HAVE THE MONEY TO SPEND. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHAT I'M SAYING SO I'M I'M COMFORTABLE WITH HAVING THE SPORTS FIELD AS JUST A SPORTS FIELD. BUT YOU SOMETHING ELSE HAS TO BE THOUGHT ABOUT. WE CAN'T JUST MAKE IT A SPORT FIELD AND SAY, WELL, YOU CAN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE NOW. YOU CAN'T CLOSE DOWN EVERY STREET TO HAVE STUFF. SO NOW WHAT DO WE DO? WELL, IS IT MY TURN? PLEASE LET IT BE YOUR TUR, I AGREE ON ON THE LANGUAGE. THE LANGUAGE PERTAINS TO EVERY PARK THAT WE HAVE IN INDIAN TOWN. NOT JUST 1 OR 2. I THINK THAT LANGUAGE CAN BE INCLUDED IN THERE THAT WILL PROTECT THOSE FIELDS, THAT IF YOU USE IT FOR AN EVENT, IT'S FOOT TRAFFIC. IT IS THE POP UP TENTS. SOME PLACES DON'T EVEN ALLOW THE LITTLE SPIKES TO GO IN FOR THOSE POP UP TENTS. THEY USE THE SAND BAGS THAT LANGUAGE CAN. AND SO YOU CAN HAVE A FESTIVAL OUT THERE AND IT DOES NOT. YOU DO NOT PUT VEHICLES ON IT. YOU HAVE TO TOTE EVERYTHING IN. YOU TOTE EVERYTHING OUT. IT'S GOING TO MEAN THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE A FOOD TRUCK IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT THERE. BUT IF YOU HAVE YOUR LITTLE TENT THAT YOU PUT YOUR STUFF OUT THERE, YOU CAN STILL DO IT. AND I WOULD SAY THAT IT SHOULD, PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THAT FIELD. SO THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN THOSE FIELDS TO BRING THEM UP TO, TO PAR, WILL WILL STILL BE MONEY WELL SPENT, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE USING THEM INAPPROPRIATELY. I THINK A FESTIVAL, WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AND YOU HAVE YOUR VENDORS ON THERE WITH THE TENTS, THEY DO IT COUNTY WIDE. YOU IF YOU WANT TO GO AS FAR AS YOU GOT TO USE SAND BAGS, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE. I MEAN, YOU COULD GO THAT FAR, BUT IT WILL NOT PREVENT AN EVENT FROM FROM HAPPENING ON ANY FIELD. DOES IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IF IT'S OVER HERE? IF IT'S OVER HERE, IF IT'S OVER HERE, YOU HAVE THE SAME ON ALL OF THEM. AND IT'S JUST TO PROTECT THE ASSETS OF THE OF THE VILLAGE. YOU STILL HAVE YOUR EVENTS, YOU HAVE YOUR GUIDELINES, YOU PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE FIELD AND YOU GO ON. WELL SAID. ANYBODY ELSE? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OH, ANTHONY. OH, YES. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
JANET HERNANDEZ. JANET HERNANDEZ JUST WANTED A ASK. SO ON PAGE 12, NOTICE OF
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ACTION ON THE APPLICATION, IT SAYS THE VILLAGE MANAGER SHALL TAKE ACTION ON AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT WITHIN TEN DAYS. IS THAT TEN DAYS? BUSINESS DAYS OR TEN DAYS, INCLUDING WEEKENDS? JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR STAFF. AND YOU KNOW, SURE, IT I DON'T RECALL MODIFYING IT SAYS COUNTING OF DAYS OTHERWISE IN HERE. SO IT WOULD BE CALENDAR DAYS OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE CALENDAR DAYS THAT DOESN'T THAT'S NOT BUSINESS DAYS. SO LIKE LET'S JUST SAY IF SOMEONE PUTS IN THE APPLICATION ON FRIDAY. SO SATURDAY SUNDAY COUNT OR BECAUSE USUALLY SOMETIMES IT SAYS BUSINESS DAYS. SO IT'S LIKE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY BECAUSE STAFF HAS WORKS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. SURE. AND THOUGHT WAS TEN DAYS. EVEN IF IT WAS CALENDAR DAYS OKAY. WAS IF IT WERE VERY SHORT, IF IT WERE TWO DAYS OR THREE DAYS, YEAH. WE MIGHT. OKAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IF WE CAN CLARIFY THAT, BECAUSE THAT COULD BE SWAYED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. AND THEN, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION IN REGARDS OF THE TALK THAT YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE HAVING, I THINK THAT THE PURPOSE, THE INTENT PROBABLY CAN BE WHEN IN THE FUTURE YOU'RE GOING TO GROW BIG, BIGGER PARK, WHEN YOU HAVE SOME AREAS THAT YOU WANT TO, MAYOR DE PAULO HAS BEEN SAYING THAT HE HAS A HUGE PLAN FOR BOCA PARK. BUT UNTIL YOU'RE IN THAT PROJECTED AREA, YOU CAN PLAN FOR HAVING IT IN THE, LDR BUT I DON'T THINK CURRENTLY IT SHOULD BE, SOMETHING BECAUSE IT COULD BE TARGETING ONE GROUP OR IT COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST ISOLATE PEOPLE. THAT SHOULDN'T BE ISOLATED, UNFORTUNATELY, IN INDIAN TOWN, EVERYONE SEGREGATES UPTOWN TO BOCA PARK. INDIAN TOWN IS INDIAN TOWN, INDIAN TOWN. I, I GREW UP HERE 33 YEARS. AND I CAN TELL YOU I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WALKING IN THE PARK LIKE NOTHING. THERE ARE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WILL NOT DRIVE TO BOCA PARK THAT SIDE OF THE AREA, AND I UNDERSTAND THEM.I CAN'T OBLIGATE THEM. BUT, HOW CAN WE, MAKE OUR COMMUNITY A WHOLE WHILE TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THIS IN THE FUTURE? NOT TARGETING IT AS A NOW BECAUSE OF A CURRENT EVENT THAT'S HAPPENING. HAPPENING BUT IN THE FUTURE, I DO THINK THAT IT COULD BE IN PLACE IN THE FUTURE, BUT NOT NOW. MISS KAREN ANSAGER, GOOD EVENING FOLKS. KAREN ANSAGER PCB BOARD I WANT TO REMIND MISTER MISS PALMER THAT WE VOTED ON THIS. WE CAME UP WITH THIS LANGUAGE. WE MADE THE CHANGES BASED ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY ASKED US TO DO. THEY WANTED THAT TIME LESSENED. I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S TOO SHORT A TIME. I WAS NOT HAPPY WITH THAT TIME CHANGE, BUT THAT WAS WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED. WHAT I'M HEARING TODAY, THIS ARGUMENT HERE ABOUT THINGS IS GETTING VERY SEGREGATED. THE MAYOR IS SAYING WE ARE ABOUT TO DEVELOP A SPORTS COMMUNITY THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE YOUTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. ALL THE YOUTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
WE'VE JUST LAST MEETING YOU GUYS JUST VOTED FOR IMPROVEMENTS ON TWO PARKS. IT'S HAPPENING. SO AND ONE OF THE PARKS, BY THE WAY, WAS BOOKER PARK. WE CANNOT LOOK AT ISOLATING THIS PARK, THIS PARK, THIS PARK. AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS HERE. IN THIS HERE. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT BRINGING IN A SPORTS COMPLEX OR SOMETHING AT EACH OF THE PARKS, KEEPING THOSE FIELDS MAINTAINED.
I DO NOT KNOW. ANOTHER AREA, ANOTHER PARK THAT DOES NOT HAVE A FENCED OFF FIELD. IF YOU GO TO PALM CITY, TO THE SKATE PARK, THEIR FIELD, THEIR BALL FIELD IS FENCED OFF. YOU CANNOT GET A VEHICLE ON THERE. YOU CAN'T EVEN WALK YOUR DOG ON THERE BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO IMPROVE IT.
YOU'RE GOING TO PUT DOWN THAT SOD, YOU'RE GOING TO PUT DOWN IRRIGATION. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING OVER A HALF $1 MILLION TO IMPROVE THOSE PARKS. AND YES, IT'S IN THE FUTURE, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO BUDGET FOR THAT. BUT HERE'S THE THING WE DO NEED TO FIND A PLACE FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE THEIR EVENTS. BUT WHAT WE DID WITH THIS LANGUAGE IS WE CREATED LANGUAGE TO MAKE THOSE EVENTS HAPPEN. AND IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, MR. VOSS DOESN'T. MOST OF THE LANGUAGE IN THERE, THE PERMITTING SAYS WHERE THEY CAN PARK AND WHAT THEY CAN HAVE AND WHETHER THEY CAN SERVE ALCOHOL
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AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. ISN'T THAT LANGUAGE IN THIS FOR THE NEW APPLICATIONS? IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT GET INTO THE PARTICULARS OF PARTICULAR LOCATIONS WHERE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN HAVE ALCOHOL. THAT'S ALL THAT'S REGULATED BY STATE LAW AND GETTING PERMITS AND SO ON. WE DO HAVE LANGUAGE WITHIN THIS ORDINANCE AND THIS DRAFT MAKING REFERENCE TO THE APPLICATION FORM, WHERE THEY WOULD DISCLOSE WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AND GETTING INTO ALL THOSE DETAILS.RIGHT? SO WE'VE GOT THIS IN THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY MAKE THE APPLICATION, THEY MUST DISCLOSE, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING. AND THEN IT HAS TO BE APPROVED. SO IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO PUT THE TRUCKS AND THE VEHICLES SOMEWHERE ELSE, EVEN IF HE'S, LIKE HE SAYS, CLOSED DOWN A STREET OR TWO, IT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE NOT TRAMPING THROUGH THE MUD TRYING TO GET TO THOSE AMENITIES AT THE EVENT. SO LET'S THINK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONEY AND MAKING IT NOT JUST POINTED AT ONE AREA. SO LAURA HERNANDEZ.
GOOD EVENING, LAURA HERNANDEZ FOR THE RECORD, I JUST HAVE A FEW, COMMENTS, WHY LIMIT IT TO ONLY SPORTING EVENTS? IS THIS I KNOW THE PARKS AND RECS DOES A MOVIE NIGHT ON THE FIELD. ARE YOU TAKING AWAY, EVENTS HOSTED BY THE VILLAGE? THIS LIMITS THEM. IT'S NOT RIGHT, I KNOW WHEN THE SWAMP FEST REQUESTED T, HOST THEIR EVENT. I KNOW THE VILLAGE STATED. OH, YOU CAN'T CLOSE DOWN STREETS. SO NOW YOU'RE STATING THAT YOU CAN CLOSE DOWN STREETS AFTER. IN THE LAST FEW MEETINGS, YOU STATED THAT WE CANNOT CLOSE STREETS, AND THEN IN THE NEAR FUTURE, AS YOU SPEAK, AS MORE EVENTS WILL BE COMING UP, THIS COMMUNITY WILL BE GROWING. AND WE CANNOT USE THE FIELD. WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO HOST THESE EVENTS? ON THE PICKLE FIELD, ON THE PICKLEBALL COURT. AND IT BE A LIABILITY FOR THE VILLAGE, SO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. ARE WE GOING INTO A DICTATORSHIP INSTEAD OF A FREE COUNTRY? BECAUSE YOU ARE LIMITING AND YOU ARE DECIDING WHAT YOU WANT AND NOT WHAT THE VILLAGE NEEDS AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS NEEDS AND THE RESIDENTS? I'M STATING THIS IN GENERAL. I'M NOT POINTING AT ANYONE. AND I'M JUST SAYING THIS THE COUNTRIES WITH DICTATORS ARE THEY SUCCEEDING? NO. THEY'RE LIKE IN A RECESSION. IT'S NOT GETTING ANYWHERE. AND YOU'RE LIMITING A COMMUNITY WITH THEIR CULTURE, WITH WHO THEY ARE, THEIR TRADITIONS TO SOMETHING THAT ISN'T EVEN PART OF THEM. THE SWAMP FEST IS HELD IN BOOKER PARK BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS. THAT'S THEM. IF YOU TAKE SWAMP FEST OUT OF BOOKER PARK, IT'S NO LONGER SWAMP FEST, AND I GO TO CHURCH THERE NEAR THE FIELD, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE WITH NOISE WITH TRAFFIC. EVERYTHING FLOWED PERFECTLY. SO WHY ARE YOU LIMITING THIS? ARE YOU TARGETING A GROUP. AND I JUST HAVE, SOMETHING TO READ AND TO LEAVE YOU GUYS WITH A THOUGHT. YOU. YOU HYPOCRITE. FIRST TAKE THE PLANK OUT OF YOUR OWN EYE, AND THEN YOU WILL SEE CLARITY TO REMOVE THE SPECK FROM YOUR BROTHER'S EYE. DO NOT GIVE DOGS WHAT IS SACRED. DO NOT THROW YOUR PEARLS TO PIGS. IF YOU DO, THEY MAY TRAMPLE THEM UNDER THEIR FEET AND TURN YOUR TEAR YOU TO YOUR PEACE, TEAR YOU TO PIECES. THIS IS FROM A BOOK CALLED THE BIBLE. MATTHEW SEVEN VERSE FIVE AND SIX. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MISS CAROLYN PARKER.
CAROLYN PARKER FOR THE RECORD, GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR. APOLLO I DIDN'T THINK WE COULD CLOSE THE ROAD DOWN, FIRST OF ALL. BUT YOU'RE TELLING ME NOW THAT WE CAN CLOSE THE ROAD DOWN AND WE CAN HAVE OUR EVENTS? IF WE DID THAT, THEN THE PARKING IS GOING TO COME TO BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE OTHER PROPERTY HAS BEEN SOLD. I UNDERSTAND THAT AT OUR LAST MEETING THAT IT WAS SAID THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET OUR PARK FIXED FIRST, BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PARK FOR THE CHILDREN. IF WE CAN'T PUT TRUCKS AND STUFF ON THE PARK, THAT'S FINE AS LONG AS YOU ALLOW US TO PUT IT SOMEWHERE. BUT MOVING SWAMP FEST OUT OF BOOKER PARK, THAT'S THAT. THAT
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JUST DOESN'T SOUND VERY WELL BECAUSE IT WAS CREATED IN BOOKER PARK. I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE CAN'T GO UPTOWN. I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE CAN'T GO TO BIG MOUNTAIN PARK, TIME OF POWERS. BUT WASN'T CREATED THERE. IT WAS CREATED IN THE SWAMP IN BOOKER PARK, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT IF WE CAN. YOU SAID. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU ALL WERE TRYING TO BUY THE PROPERTY BEHIND THE WHERE DEBBIE'S PLACE IS. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. BUT NOW, LIKE YOU SAID, CLOSING DOWN THE ROAD. LET'S TRY THAT ONE AND SEE HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO CLOSE THAT ROAD. NOW. WE WON'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY WANT TO DELETE THAT ROAD. I CAN'T TELL YOU TO DO THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO. YOU'RE THE MAN, MISS KIMBERLY JACKSON BROWN. SORRY. KIMBERLY JACKSON BROWN, VICE PRESIDENT, CONCERNED CITIZENS FOR BOOKER PARK, THE HOST OF SWAMP FEST AND THE BLACK HISTORY FEST. NOT BEING ABLE TO USE THE PARK OR HAVING THE PARK JUST FOR A SPORTING EVENT. HEY. BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO. YOU'RE NOT EVEN READY TO WORK ON DURHAM PARK. LET'S CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET TO THAT BRIDGE, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY DAMAGE TO THE PARK. WE'VE BEEN WE'VE HAD IT AND WE'VE HAD A BIG EVENT. THIS EVENT COMING UP IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE AS WE DON'T EVEN EXPECT IT. THIS IS OUR FIRST SHOT, BUT THERE WAS NO DAMAGE. WE MADE SURE WE DIDN'T USE STAKES. WE TOOK CARE. WE DID THINGS THAT YOU DIDN'T EVEN ASK US TO DO BECAUSE SOME OF THE STUFF CAME UP AFTERWARDS AND WE WERE LIKE, OH, OKAY. BUT WE DID THAT ANYWAY BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS IS LIKE AT MY HOUSE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME TO SWEEP AND CLEAN UP CERTAIN THINGS. IT JUST WE KNOW THAT THIS HAS TO BE DONE. I MEAN, SOME OF US DO. SO WE TOOK CARE. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THE HOOPLA IS RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE FOR US TO GO, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE FORCED OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S GOING TO BE A FIGHT. WE'RE COMING UP HERE AND WE'RE BOWING DOWN WITH EVERYTHING. WE'RE TRYING TO MEET YOU IN THE MIDDLE. WE'VE HAD ALL THESE MEETINGS, SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE RIGHT BACK AT THE SAME THING WHEN YOU'RE READY TO DO THE PARK, THEN YOU COME UP WITH THAT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT YEAR. I GUESS WHENEVER YOU'RE READY TO DO THAT. BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE HERE TODAY WITH THAT ONE. LET'S JUST BE PEACEFUL, GIVE US OUR OUR AREA TO DO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE FORCED OUT OF THERE EVEN WITH I MEAN, EVERYBODY GOT THEIR OWN OPINIONS. EVEN WITH SWAMP FEST, WE CAME TO YOU GUYS AND WE SAID, OKAY, WE UNDERSTAND WE'RE GROWING AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT A THOUGHT. WE'RE GOING TO EVEN TRY TO DO SOMETHING A BIT DIFFERENT. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BUCK THE SYSTEM, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SAY, THIS IS WHERE THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY, THIS DON'T FORCE US OUT. JUST LIKE THEY SAID, YOU GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE UP HERE THAT AIN'T GOING TO DRIVE DOWN THERE. WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO DRIVE UP HERE? WE DON'T. WE FEEL THE SAME WAY. SO GIVE US THE SAME RESPECT THAT WE'RE WILLING TO GIVE YOU. YOU SAID THE ROADS CAN BE CLOSED DOWN, BUT JUST THE OTHER MEETING. WE CAN'T CLOSE DOWN THE ROADS. WE CAN'T DO THIS. WE CAN'T DO THAT. YOU CLOSE DOWN THE ROADS, YOU TELL US WHERE WE CAN PARK, AND YOU LET US USE THAT PARK OVER THERE. BECAUSE WE HAD A PROBLEM WITH ALL OF THAT. NOW THAT'S ALL FINE TO KEEP US OFF OF THE FIELD. FIELD USED TO BE A BASEBALL DIAMOND. HAVE YOU ONCE ASKED ANYBODY IN BOOKER PARK WITH Y'ALL? BIG SPORTS, WHATEVER. PICKLEBALL? BECAUSE I ASKED THE PEOPLE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT NO PICKLEBALL IS. WE HAD TO GOOGLE THAT THING, ASK US WHAT WE WANT IN OUR COMMUNITY.PICKLEBALL MIGHT BE FINE OVER HERE, BUT IT DON'T WORK. WHERE WE AT? WE MIGHT WANT TO PLAY KICKBALL, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? WE KNOW WHAT THAT IS. LET'S ALL WORK TOGETHER. COME ON. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM COMING UP HERE. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. IT'S SOME THINGS THAT DEBBIE ASKED US ABOUT. WE'RE WILLING TO WORK. WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS. WE. BUT ASK US WHAT WE WANT AND LET US WORK WITH YOU. WE AIN'T TRYING TO WORK AGAINST YOU, MISS LINDA.
NICCUM. SAID FOR THE RECORD, LINDA NICCUM, I'M LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS THE MAIN TOPIC OF THIS CONVERSATION WHEN WE STARTED, AND IT SAID THAT WE WERE GOING TO CREATE A NEW SECTION OF THIS AND HAVE THE MANAGER BE MAKING DECISIONS. I HAVE HEARD DISCUSSIONS ON EVERYTHING, BUT WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. WE'VE GOT AN ORDINANCE THAT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FOOTBALL FIELDS OR STREETS BEING CLOSED OR ANYTHING ELSE. SO CAN'T WE GET DOWN TO WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT? GET THAT OUT OF
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THE WAY AND MOVE FORWARD. THE OTHER DISCUSSIONS MAYBE NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP AT ANOTHER MEETING AT ANOTHER TIME, BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? NO SIR. OKA. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT. AS IT'S WRITTEN. IS THAT WHAT I'M GETTING? YES OKAY. YEAH. WE NEED A COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER, TO COME BACK. ARE WE GOING TO WAIT FOR COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER TO COME BACK? WELL, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS GOING. TO DO. WE NEED A MOTION? DO YOU NEED A MOTION? I DON'T KNOW. THANK YOU. BUT SHOULD WE GIVE HER A ROUND OF APPLAUSE? MR. JUST A LITTLE LEVITY. THAT'S GOOD. OKAY SO CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AS WRITTEN? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE, MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN THOMAS. I. SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BROWN. AND MAYOR, JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE FOR THE MINUTES, THIS WOULD BE APPROVING IT ON FIRST READING. IT WILL BE COMING BACK BEFORE YOU FOR THE SECOND READING AND FINAL ADOPTION AT YOUR NEXT MEETING. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. AWESOME OKAY. DISCUSSION ITEMS, SPECIAL EVENT APPLICATION FOR BLACK
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Special Event Application for Black History Fest to be held February 15-16, 2025.
]HISTORY FEST TO BE HELD FEBRUARY 1516, 2025. GOOD EVENING. DEBBIE RIZZO'S PARKS DIRECTOR. FOR THE RECORD. SO BEFORE YOU IS THE SPECIAL EVENT APPLICATION FOR BLACK HISTORY FEST, WHICH WAS TURNED IN BY THE CONCERNED CITIZENS GROUP OF BOOKER PARK, BECAUSE OF THE ORDINANCES, AS THEY ARE THE ELDERS AS THEY ARE NOW, IT HAS TO COME BEFORE YOU GUYS BECAUSE THEY HAVE AMPLIFIED MUSIC, AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR STREET CLOSURES, BUT THEY ARE ASKING TO USE THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR PARKING, WHICH STAFF HAVE WORKED OUT WITH THEM DURING OUR MEETING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD MAKE THAT WORK, THEY'VE PROVIDED THEIR INSURANCE WITH THEIR ALCOHOL ENDORSEMENT, AND THEY'VE PAID THEIR FEES AND EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER. WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE GROUP TO LET THEM KNOW THAT AS THE EVENT HOLDERS, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACTIVITIES OF THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO THEIR EVENT. THEY ARE TO CONTROL THE PARKING, TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT BLOCKING THE SIDEWALKS AND LIMITING PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE FACILITIES, AND THAT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE STATED THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWING ALCOHOL TO BE BROUGHT INTO THE EVENT, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO SELL IT, THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE NOT CARRYING IN ALCOHOL, SPECIFICALLY GLASS CONTAINERS, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED IN OUR FACILITIES, BUT BASED ON THEM MEETING ALL THE CRITERIA, WE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE EVENT. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. DISCUSSION. CAN I MAKE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT IT. SECOND APPLICATION MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN BROWN. SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN PALMER. CORRECT. ALL IN FAVOR? I HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY.ALL PUBLIC COMMENT. YES. OKAY. I'M SORRY, MISS LINDA NICCUM. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU KEEP ME UP PAST MY BEDTIME. I'M GOING TO TALK FOR THE RECORD, LONDON ICAM, I WENT OVER THIS APPLICATION AND I HAD A FEW THINGS THAT THAT BOTHERED ME, CONSIDERING THE ATTENDANCE OF THE SWAMP FEST, I THOUGHT THAT ANTICIPATING 200 ATTENDEES SOUNDED A LITTLE BIT UNDERESTIMATED, THE COMMERCIAL GEO COVERAGE POLICY STATED THEY WERE EXPECTING 250 THE LIQUOR
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LIABILITY POLICY SAID THERE'D BE 100 CONSUMERS OF ALCOHOL, SO I WONDER IF THE 200 IS A LITTLE BIT LOW AND IF THERE'S ONLY 200, WHY ARE THERE 25 VENDORS? THE, PARKING SAID THEY WERE EXPECTING 50 TO 100. I YET THE MAP SHOWING PARKS AND RECREATION PROPERTY FOR SPACES AVAILABLE SHOWS 65 SPACES AVAILABLE. SO I IS THE OVERFLOW PARKING ARRANGED SOMEWHERE ELSE? THE MUSIC, I LIVE IN INDIAN WOOD AND THE BASS FROM THE MUSIC IN BROOKER PARK RESOUNDS RIGHT DOWN. ROWLAND CANAL. YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY IN INTO OUR AND 10:00 OF HEARING BOOM BOOM BOOM IS A LITTLE BIT ANNOYING WHEN YOU GET TO OUR AGE. I THOUGHT THAT 10 P.M. FOR HAVING MUSIC OUT WAS TOO LATE FOR A RESIDENTIAL AREA, CONSIDERING HOW LOUD IT IS. AND SUNDAY MORNING START UP WAS AT 10 A.M. WHEN PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO BE IN CHURCH. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE WANTING TO HEAR THAT. THAT LOUD MUSIC EITHER, I WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY PROVISIONS IN OUR ORDINANCES FOR ALCOHOL SALES OR CONSUMPTION IN IN OUR PARKS. AND IF, IF, SO IS THERE, IS THERE ANY, ORDINANCE AGAINST SELLING ALCOHOL ON SUNDAYS PRIOR TO A CERTAIN TIME? THERE ARE SOME AREAS YOU CAN'T SELL ALCOHOL BEFORE NOON ON SUNDAYS. I DON'T KNOW IF INDIAN TOWN HAS THAT TYPE OF THING OR NOT, BUT THESE WERE JUST ALL THE CONCERNS THAT I POPPED UP WITH IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS KIMBERLY JACKSON BROWN. KIMBERLY JACKSON BROWN, CONCERNED CITIZENS FOR BROOK PARK. FIRST OFF, I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. I SLEEP FINE, I DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEM. DON'T HEAR NO MUSIC. THIS LADY LIVE UP THE STREET FROM ME. SHE SAY SHE DON'T HEAR IT, THE LADY THAT WAS HERE, THE LAST TIME ACTUALLY CALLED ME AND SAID, YOU KNOW, HEY, LET'S WORK TOGETHER. SO YEAH. THE MUSIC. OKAY ANYWAY, WE'RE GOING TO AND CHURCH ON SUNDAYS. WE, THE CHURCHES IN THE AREA USUALLY COME OUT AND WE HAVE ALL THE CHURCHES. WE INVITE THEM ALL TO COME OUT AND HAVE CHURCH WITH US. SO WE TRY TO DO ONE BIG CHURCH SERVICE. SO I DON'T THINK BEING IN CHURCH IS A PROBLEM. AND SHE GOES TO CHURCH RIGHT? A RIGHT BY THE PARK, RIGHT ADJACENT TO WHERE I LIVE. THERE AIN'T NOBODY COMPLAINING, BUT SOMEBODY SO FAR AWAY. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THEY BEEN HEARING ALL THAT. BUT MAYBE BECAUSE THEY LISTENING FOR IT AND THEY LOOKING FOR A PROBLEM, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN COME UP WITH FOR THAT. BECAUSE I LIVE RIGHT THERE. YOU KNOW, WHERE I LIVE, I CAN TIPTOE THERE IN A FEW MINUTES, A MINUTE OR TWO, CONSIDERING IF MY FEET HURT OR NOT. BUT I CAN GET THERE. SO I'M NOT GETTING THAT PORTION OF IT.IT'S NOT ON FIFTH STREET ANYMORE. AND I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER MY NEIGHBORS HAVE A PARTY EVERY WEEKEND. YEAH. THEY PARTY. THAT'S NO, THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS. I DON'T GO OVER THERE AND KNOCK THEIR LITTLE SITUATION. SOMETIMES THE MUSIC GET A LITTLE LOUD. I JUST SAY, HEY, TURN IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT, OKAY? AND THAT'S IT. SO PEOPLE LOOKING FOR A PROBLEM, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING. PEOPLE LOOKING AND DIGGING AND LOOKING FOR AN ISSUE. AND THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE ONE WHEN YOU LOOK FOR ONE, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T GET THAT. BUT AT ANY WHO ANY OTHER THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO ADDRESS, I FORGET EVERYTHING, SHE SAID. I GOT STUCK ON THE MUSIC. CHURCH.
WE HAVE THE CHURCHES THERE. WE DO A COMBINED SERVICE ON THAT SUNDAY ON THAT. AND AS FAR AS THE ALCOHOL IS CONCERNED, HONESTLY, IT'S A BLACK HISTORY PROGRAM. WE'RE NOT REALLY EVEN EXPECTING IT. WE PUT IT THERE BECAUSE WE GOT SO MUCH BACKLASH FOR SWAMP FEST. WE JUST DECIDED WE'RE GOING TO PUT EVERYTHING ON THERE AND JUST IN CASE WE DON'T EVEN EXPECT THE 200 PEOPLE, BUT WE PUT THE NUMBERS UP THERE JUST IN CASE, JUST IN CASE. SO I'M NOT GETTING ALL OF THE ISSUE,
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BUT I HOPE EVERYBODY IN HERE TIRED OF FIGHTING AND ARGUING BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE AND IT'S GOING TO KEEP GOING BECAUSE THERE AIN'T NOBODY GOING TO JUST KEEP BACKING DOWN AND KISSING NOBODY BEHIND. WHEN WE'RE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE'RE FEELING LIKE WE ARE BEING CHALLENGED AND PUSHED EVERY CHANCE YOU GUYS GET, WE DON'T COME UP HERE AND MESS WITH NOBODY. WE HEAR ALL KIND OF STUFF. WE GET ALL THE DIFFERENT EVENTS WE COME AND ATTEND. IF ANYTHING, WE DON'T LOOK FOR AN ISSUE. EVERY CHANCE YOU GET LOOKING FOR AN ISSUE. BUT EITHER YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW US TO HAVE OUR EVENT, OR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW US TO HAVE OUR EVENT EITHER WAY AROUND. WE AIN'T GOING NOWHERE. CONCERNED CITIZENS FOR BOOKER PARK, BOOKER PARK, NOT JUST BOOKER PARK. BOOKER PARK IS INDIAN TOWN. Y'ALL BETTER REALIZE THAT MISS KAREN ON HER. HELLO. THANK YOU AGAIN, KAREN. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. SO THIS DISCUSSION IS IRRELEVANT. THEY HAVE DONE WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. PEOPLE CAN BE ANNOYED BY IT OR FIND IT DISRUPTIVE. THEY HAVE DONE WHAT OUR REQUIREMENTS REQUIRE THEM TO DO. AND AS LONG AS THEY TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY, FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THEIR COMMITMENTS, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE WAY THEIR COMMUNITY AND THEIR CULTURE CELEBRATES. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? WE OUGHT TO ALL GO OVER THERE AND JOIN IN BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE A WONDERFUL EVENT. BLACK HISTORY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL OUR CULTURES, AND WE SHOULD BE SUPPORTING ALL OUR COMMUNITY. AND I'M SORRY, BUT YOU CAN. THIS HAS TO STOP. THIS DIVISIVENESS HAS TO STOP. THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY. I LIVE HERE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE UPTOWN IS. I DON'T KNOW THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BOOKER PARK. I TRAVEL THROUGH BOOKER PARK A LOT. I'VE NEVER FELT UNCOMFORTABLE. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE DEVELOPMENT THERE. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING AFFORDABLE HOUSING THERE. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE FIELDS FIXED SO THE KIDS CAN PLAY THER. SO WE HAVE JOBS HERE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WANT THEIR CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK HERE. THESE ARE THE ISSUES WE SHOULD BE SPENDING OUR TIME TALKING ABOUT. THERE IS NO REASON FOR ALL THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THESE FOLKS CAN ENJOY THEIR COMMUNITY. YES, WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR FINANCIAL INVESTMENTS. SO IF WE PUT MONEY INTO BALL FIELDS, OF COURSE THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO WANT THEM TO BE PROTECTED BECAUSE IT'S THEIR KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE USING THEM. BUT WE DO HAVE TO WORK AROUND. WE HAVE TO FIND WORKAROUNDS TO HELP THEM CONTINUE WITH THEIR CULTURE, CONTINUE WITH THEIR COMMUNITY, AND AS LONG AS THIS BOARD IS HERE TO SEE IF YOU'VE DONE WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, AND THAT'S THE ONLY DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD HERE. THEY HAVE DONE WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. THE BOARD, BEFORE THEY REALIZE THERE WAS PUBLIC COMMEN, ALREADY VOTED TO APPROVE IT. SO LET'S MOVE. MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST CLARIFY THAT STAFF GOT UP AND APPROVED THIS, RECOMMENDED THAT WE APPROVE IT. THIS COUNCIL HAD NO DISCUSSION, MADE A MOTION. THERE WAS A SECOND TO APPROVE IT. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT WHATSOEVER. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE PROBLEM IS COMING FROM. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. OKAY SO WE GOT A MOTION. WE GOT A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE PASS UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY YEAH. OKAY. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? OKAY. I HAVE SOME[ANNOUNCEMENTS]
ANNOUNCEMENTS, PARK AND MARKET WILL BE HERE TOMORROW AT 10 A.M. AT BIG MOUND PARK. NEXT WEEKEND WE WILL HAVE OUR FIRST HOME GAME FOR SOCCER. IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO SEE YOU AT BIG MOUND PARK AND OUR REGULAR MOBILE FOOD DRIVE WILL BE OCTOBER 10TH AT 8 A.M. AND BOOK A PARK MAYOR. OKAY OCTOBER. MAYOR ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER, BACK IN IN, COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS. HAD AN ADDITIONAL THING. SHE WAS ABOUT TO ASK ABOUT REAL QUICK, AND I HAD MISSED IT WHEN I WAS GOING. SO COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBERS. OH, SORRY. I'M GOING TO GET ME COUNCIL MEMBERS. I THERE IS A WORKSHOP IN ORLANDO. I BELIEVE THE DATES[02:20:09]
ARE. IS IT FEBRUARY SEVEN? 17TH. 18TH. THE SEVENTH AND EIGHTH. IN ORLANDO. SO I'M ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO TRAVEL TO THAT WORKSHOP. A WORKSHOP FOR WHAT? THE WORKSHOP. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT WITH YOU TONIGHT. THE WORKSHOP IS FOR COUNCIL BUSINESS. FOR ME TO BE BETTER AT MY AT MY TALENT OR CRAFT OR MY JOB. WHO'S PUTTING IT ON, I FORGET THE NAME OF THE. WHAT IS IT? IT'S THE FLORIDA BLACK CAUCUS OF ELECTED OFFICIALS. VERY WELL. DO YOU WANT TO GO? WE'LL BE ROOMMATES.YES. SO I'M ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO TRAVEL. OKAY, OKAY. I MEAN. WELL, THAT I HAVE.
THAT'S A PART OF OUR NEW BUDGET. ONCE AGAIN, DO COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE A SET AMOUNT? EACH ONE HAS UP TO $2,500 OR WHATEVER IT IS EVERY YEAR IN ORDER TO UTILIZE FOR SUCH FUNCTIONS. CORRECT. IS THE AMOUNT STILL LIKE $2,500 FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBER? ABOUT $5,000. ANYONE ELSE? YEAH. MR. FLORIO'S INDICATING HE'S INCREASED IT TO 3500. MIKE PER COUNCIL MEMBER. WOW HOW MUCH IS THIS? THANK YOU. MIKE. WHAT'S THE COST? I'M NOT SURE. WE'LL LOOK AT 3500. YEAH, YEAH. YOU NEVER KNOW. IT'LL BE USUALLY THE BIGGEST EXPENSE IS THE HOTEL. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. I DON'T EITHER, OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL IN FAVO? YEAH. WE'RE GOOD. I ALL RIGHT, OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING IS OCTOBER 10TH, 2024 AT 6:30 P.M.
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MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION MADE SECOND. THANK YOU.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.