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GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO THIS VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. REGULAR VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING THIS OCTOBER, THE 22ND, 2024. IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE, MAYOR GIBBS. THOMAS. HERE. VICE MAYOR PEREZ. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. HERNANDEZ. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. PALMER. HERE THANK YOU, JUST A FEW HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS. YOUR EXIT YOU WILL FIND ON YOUR LEFT AND YOUR RIGHT. ALSO ON YOUR LEFT. IMMEDIATELY THROUGH THE DOOR IS A SET OF BATHROOMS. YOUR CELL PHONES. IF WE COULD SILENCE OUR CELL PHONES, ALSO, YOU WILL HAVE TWO CHANCES TO SPEAK THIS EVENING. ONCE WILL BE IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR MEETING. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU FILL OUT A SPEAKING REQUEST FORM THAT'S ON THE BACK TABLE. AND TO YOUR LEFT HAND IT TO OUR CLERK, YOUR SECOND. AND THAT THAT PUBLIC COMMENT IS ON ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. NOW AN ITEM THAT IS ON THE AGENDA, YOU WILL SPEAK TO IT DIRECTLY AT THAT ITEM TIME. ONCE AGAIN, FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM AND THE ITEM YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON, AND MAKE SURE YOU GIVE IT TO OUR CLERK. ALSO, WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND TO THE MIC, PLEASE MAKE SURE IT'S ON AND PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, AND ALSO YOU WILL SEE ON THE FRONT OF OUR AGENDA, WE HAVE A CIVILITY CLAUSE HERE, AND WE DO ADHERE TO THAT. THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL THIS EVENING, OUR INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY MISS LINDA NICCUM. IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND AND ALSO REMAIN STANDING FOR OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. AND, GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE UNCOVER. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. ASK THAT YOU GIVE YOUR BLESSINGS TO ALL OF US. GIVE YOUR COOL HEAD TO ALL OF US. KEEP OUR HEARTS OPEN. KEEP OUR MOUTHS SHUT. ALLOW US TO THINK BEFORE WE SPEAK AND. AND LET YOUR LOVE SHINE THROUGH ALL OF US. WE WANT TO BE YOUR SERVANTS. WE WANT TO DO YOUR WILL. AND WE NEED CLEAN, OPEN HEARTS IN ORDER TO DO THAT. WE THANK YOU FOR THE LEADERSHIP THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN, AND WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP ALL OF US UNDER UNDER YOUR HAND AND UNDER YOUR PROTECTION. AMEN. AMEN I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. I'M GOING TO TAKE A. MADAM CLERK, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, PULLED ITEMS, OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS
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THIS EVENING? YES, MADAM MAYOR, STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE FACT FINDING COMMITTEE REPORT BE PULLED FROM THE AGENDA, TO ALLOW MORE TIME FOR PREPARATION FOR THAT ITEM.OKAY. WILL THAT BE COMING BACK? THE NEXT THE NEXT MEETING? DO W? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. IS THAT THE ONLY ITEMS? THAT IS THAT. IS IT? OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY, MOVING ON TO PROCLAMATIONS,
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Proclamation for National Suicide Prevention Month
]AWARDS AND SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING FOR NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH. WHEREAS SUICIDE IS A TRAGIC AND PREVENTABLE LOSS THAT AFFECTS INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES, AND COMMUNITIES ACROSS OUR NATION, LEAVING BEHIND GRIEF, PAIN, AND DEVASTATION. AND WHEREAS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH PROVIDES AN[00:05:01]
OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THE PREVALENCE OF SUICIDE, TO PROMOTE UNDERSTANDING, EMPATHY AND SUPPORT FOR INDIVIDUALS STRUGGLING WITH SUICIDAL THOUGHTS AND TO ENCOURAGE DIALOG, EDUCATION AND ACTION TO PREVENT SUICIDE AND SAVE LIVES. AND WHEREAS SUICIDE IS A COMPLEX PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE INFLUENCED BY A MULTITUDE OF FACTORS INCLUDING MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, TRAUMA, SOCIAL ISOLATION, ECONOMIC HARDSHIP, AND ACCESS TO LETHAL MEANS, AND IT REQUIRES A COMPREHENSIVE, MULTIDISCIPLINARY APPROACH TO ADDRESS AND PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING. AND WHEREAS SUICIDE PREVENTION IS EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY AND REQUIRES COLLABORATION, COMPASSION AND COMMITMENT FROM INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES, COMMUNITIES, HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS, EDUCATORS, POLICYMAKERS AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TO CREATE A SUPPORTIVE AND CARING ENVIRONMENT WHERE INDIVIDUALS IN CRISIS CAN SEEK HELP, SEEK HELP, RECEIVE TREATMENT, AND FIND HOPE AND HEALING. WHEREAS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH SERVES AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR THE MEMORY OF THOSE LOST TO SUICIDE TO SUPPORT SURVIVORS OF SUICIDE LOSS, AND TO REAFFIRM OUR DEDICATION TO PREVENTING SUICID, REDUCING STIGMA AND PROMOTING MENTAL HEALTH AND WELL-BEING FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS. NOW, THEREFORE, I, SUSAN GIBBS THOMAS, MAYOR OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER AS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH. I CALL UPON ALL RESIDENTS, ORGANIZATIONS AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TO JOIN IN RAISING AWARENESS ABOUT SUICIDE PREVENTION TO SUPPORT EFFORTS TO DESTIGMATIZE MENTAL ILLNESS, AND TO WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE A CULTURE OF CARE, COMPASSION AND RESILIENCE WHERE EVERYONE CAN THRIVE AND FIND HELP IN TIME OF NEED. AND THIS EVENING, WE HAVE KIANA KELLY, WHO WILL ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THIS, KATHLEEN UNFORTUNATELY COULDN'T MAKE IT. SHE'S NOT FEELING WELL, AND SHE ASKED ME TO COME IN HER STEAD.AND, I AM A SUICIDE SURVIVOR. MY DAUGHTER ON OCTOBER 10TH, 2023, TOOK HER LIFE. SHE WAS 26 YEARS OLD AND SHE GRADUATED FROM SOUTH FORK. WE WERE MARTIN COUNTY RESIDENTS, AND SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE STATISTICS, AND THEN I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE PRACTICAL APPLICATION. SO JUST KEEP THIS PICTURE IN MIND, WHICH I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY CAN SEE. BUT THAT'S MY BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTER. AND SO NAMI, THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE FOR MENTAL ILLNESS OF THE TREASURE COAST SERVES MARTIN AND OKEECHOBEE COUNTY. AND JANICE GRELLER, KATHLEEN MURPHY SMITH, AND KIMBERLY ANN COMER AND FAITH, THAT'S THE STAFF OF THAT OFFICE. SEPTEMBER 10TH IS SUICIDE AWARENESS DAY. SEPTEMBER IS THE MONTH OF SUICIDE AWARENESS, AND ON OCTOBER 12TH THEY ARE GOING TO BE HAVING THEIR SUICIDE PREVENTION WALK. SO IF YOU WANT TO SUPPORT, PLEASE GO TO THE NAMI SITE AND PICK A TEAM TO SUPPORT THE AVERAGE RATE OF SUICIDE IN THIS COUNTRY IS ABOUT 22 SUICIDES PER DAY, WHICH I KNOW VERY WELL BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER IS NO LONGER HERE FROM 2015 TO 2019, THE SUICIDE RATE IN MARTIN COUNTY WENT FROM 10.3 TO 16%. 22 IN 2015 AND 2019, WHICH WAS THE LAST YEAR THAT NUMBERS WERE PROVIDED WAS 32. THAT INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE FLORIDA HEALTH, FLORIDA HEALTH DOT GOV. AND NOW, IF YOU WILL JUST GIVE ME A MOMENT OF YOUR TIME, I LOOK GOOD DEPRESSED LIKE TEN OUT OF TEN. I'M BLESSED.
ANXIETY IS ON HAIR AND MAKEUP AND SHE KEEPS MY FACE BEAT. BAGS AND BLOTCHES, CONCEALED FLAKES NEVER REVEALED. I MEAN, SHE'S A PROFESSIONAL AT HER CRAFT. INSECURITIES ARE THE WARDROBE GODDESS BECAUSE SHE ALWAYS CLOTHES ME IN THE HOTTEST FLOWING GARMENTS. DELICATE FABRICS. I MEAN, COME ON NOW. SHE'S A MASTER STYLIST. WHEN I SHOW UP, IT'S LIKE NOTHING BUT APPLAUSE AND MORE ENCORES BECAUSE I'M WEARING IT ALL SO WELL. MY GIRDLE HAS STUFFED ALL THE BLOAT OF MY EMOTIONAL EATING PUDGE INTO A FINELY SNATCHED WAIST, AND I CAN MOVE WITH EASE THROUGH TIGHT CROWDS AND FAKE FACES. MY DENTIST GETS PAID EXTRA TO KEEP ALL MY TEETH FLAWLESS. THERE CAN BE NO APPEARANCE OF WEAKNESS, AND SO THE 32 SCARS OF GRIEF ARE COVERED WITH TATS. THE RAGE IS PLACATED WITH PACIFIERS AND IN ANY OTHER REALITY, MY ENTIRE EXISTENCE WOULD BE THAT OF A LIAR. BUT THE WALK COVERS THE DRAG, THE BAG COVERS THE LACK, AND THE LAUGH BUYS TIME. I'VE SEEN THE KNOWN SWALLOWED INTO MEDICATIONS AND ACCUSATIONS AND DEFAMATION OF THEIR REALITY. I'VE SEEN THE KNOWN, MINIMIZED AND OSTRACIZED AND PUT INTO
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BOXES SO SMALL THAT THEY SUFFOCATE IT. SO SOME MAY SAY IT'S BETTER TO BE UNKNOWN, TO LAY LOW, TO SMILE SLOW AND WITH BRIGHT EYES. WHILE DROWNING, WHILE DROWNING WITHIN. ALL I KNOW IS I LOOK GOOD. DEPRESSED TEN OUT OF TEN I'M BLESSED. AND THAT POEM ACTUALLY WAS WRITTEN BEFORE MY DAUGHTER PASSED AWAY AND SHE TOOK HER LIFE ON 10/10. SO I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT DEPRESSION AND SUICIDE IDEATION, WHICH IS THE IDEA OF TAKING YOUR LIFE WITHOUT HAVING A PLAN, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS LOOK LIKE GRAY, SWEATSUITS AND DEPRESSIVE BEHAVIOR. IT LOOKS LIKE BEING THE LIFE OF THE PARTY. IT LOOKS LIKE SMILING. IT LOOKS LIKE LOOKING GOOD. SO ALWAYS CHECK ON YOUR STRONG FRIENDS. ALWAYS CHECK ON THE POSITIVE, UPBEAT KIDS BECAUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, EIGHT HOURS, TEN HOURS BEFORE MY DAUGHTER TOOK HER LIFE, SHE WAS PLANNING AND DOING A DATING PROFILE AND ON THE PHONE WITH HER BEST FRIEND FOR 7 OR 8 HOURS. SO I DON'T WANT THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE CALL MASKING. SO AND PEOPLE IN INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES AND ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES ARE MUCH HIGHER. THEY'RE MUCH MORE SKILLED AT THAT MASKING ABILITY. SO WE JUST WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF SUPPORTING EACH OTHER IN OUR COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T LEAVE ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, FEELING UNSUPPORTED. IF ANYBODY IS FEELING ANY TYPE OF WAY, THEY CAN CALL 988. IT'S 24 OVER SEVEN. YOU CAN PULL IT UP ON YOUR PHONE. THAT IS A 24 OVER SEVEN SUICIDE AWARENESS PREVENTION LINE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, LADIES. WELL, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR STORY WITH US. ABSOLUTELY, IT'S VERY IMPACTFUL AND MAKES US MAKES ME MORE AWARE OF THE REALITY. SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE JOIN US AND ACCEPT THIS. NEXT.[PUBLIC COMMENT (3 MINUTES EACH)]
OKAY. WE MOVE ON NOW TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF THE EVENING. MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? THE FIRST IS MISS LINDA NICCUM. WELCOME, MISS NICCUM. FOR THE RECORD, LINDA NICCUM, I FEEL LIKE I MUST HAVE BLOWN OUT ALL THE CANDLES ON MY BIRTHDAY CAKE.AND MY WISH WAS GRANTED THAT WE FILL THE SEATS IN THIS ROOM. I ONLY HOPE THAT THAT EVERYBODY IS HERE WITH A CLEAN, CLEAR HEART. THAT WE CAN PROCEED WITH KINDNESS AND CIVILITY. AND WE SPEAK TO EACH OTHER AS IF YOU'RE TALKING TO YOUR GRANDMOTHER. I HOPE THAT THAT OUR CLEAN SLATE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE ELECTIONS NOW WE START A NEW PHASE. WE'LL HAVE NEW FACES, NEW IDEAS, AND WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, WE DON'T WANT TO BE LOOKING BACK OVER OUR SHOULDERS UNLESS IT'S TO LEARN A LESSON. BUT. BUT I, I HOPE THAT WE ALL CAN COME TOGETHER AS ONE VILLAGE. ONE TOWN, ONE PEOPLE. AND MAKE SOME PROGRESS. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO. AND I'D SAY IT'S TIME TO GET GOING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. DARRYL HOLMES. THANK YOU VERY. GOOD EVENING,
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SIR. GOOD EVENING. I AM HERE ONCE AGAIN, ONLY TO STATE FACTS. IF ANYONE DOUBTS THE VERACITY OF WHAT I AM SAYING, YOU CAN SEE ME AFTERWARDS AS I HAVE PAPERWORK TO SHOW WHERE I AM COMING FROM AND WHAT I BELIEVE. AND THAT IS WHAT IT IS BASED ON THIS COUNCI, THOUGH NOT ALL ITS MEMBERS, HAS NO PROBLEM IMPLEMENTING IMPLEMENTING POLICIES THAT TARGET AND MARGINALIZE A POPULATION THAT IS RACIST. AND THE REASON YOU CANNOT SEE SEE IT AS IT IS, BECAUSE LIKE MOST OF US, WE HAVE THOSE IMPLICIT BIASES AND INGRAINED BIASES IN US. BUT IT IS THERE NO DOUBT YOU DESIRE TO CHANGE AND REVISE THE RULES TO TARGET, HINDER AND INHIBIT A WHOLE DEMOGRAPHIC AND THEIR COMMUNITY. I DO NOT CARE HOW ANYONE FEELS ABOUT WHAT I'M SAYING, AND IF IT MAKES YOU UNCOMFORTABLE, GOOD. YOU SHOULD FEEL THAT WAY. THESE POLICIES HAVE FURTHER AND WILL CONTINUE TO FURTHER AN ALREADY MARGINALIZED PEOPLE. THE VILLAGE MANAGER HAS RECOMMENDED A DENIAL OF OUR BLACK HISTORY EVENT, SAYING IT IS BASED ON AMPLIFIED MUSIC AND RIGHT OF WAY PARKING ISSUES, NEITHER OF WHICH IS A REASON FOR DENIAL, BECAUSE THERE ARE REMEDIES REMEDIES TO BOTH.THOSE ARE THINGS THAT SIMPLY TRIGGER CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS TO OFFSET AND PREVENT THE EVENT FROM BECOMING A NUISANCE. AN EVENT DOES NOT START OUT AS A NUISANCE. WE ALL, EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM HAS A RIGHT TO EXPRESS OUR CULTURE AND HERITAGE. IT IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, A GOD GIVEN RIGHT. NO GOVERNMENT ENTITY CAN MAKE POLICIES THAT PERPETUATES RACISM OR MARGINALIZES A PEOPLE. NO GOVERNMENT. YOU'VE NAMED BOOKER PARK AND SWAMP FEST IN YOUR EMAILS WHEN SUGGESTING RULE CHANGES IN THE LDR. THAT IS A MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY. IF YOU DON'T KNOW, HAVE ANY OF YOU BEEN TO BOOKER PARK LATELY? HAVE ANY OF YOU SEEN THE CONDITIONS OF, LET'S JUST SAY, THE SIDEWALKS THERE IN BOOKER PARK, THE SIDEWALKS THAT OUR CHILDREN HAVE TO WALK ON? YOU DON'T KNOW THE PEOPLE NOR THE CULTURE, AND YOU HAVE NO DESIRE TO LEARN ABOUT THEM. ARE WE DIFFERENT? OF COURSE WE ARE DIFFERENT. DOESN'T MEAN BAD. I UNDERSTAND THERE IS AN INNATE FEAR IN YOU OF BLACK FOLKS CONGREGATING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU SIR. MISS JULIA HARRI.
GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD AFTERNOON, WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, JULIA HARRIS? THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK UPON, I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT, LIKE SPORTS. THERE'S NO NOTHING FOR THE YOUTH, I HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY OUT TO STUART OR SURROUNDING AREAS IN ORDER TO HAVE MY KIDS INTO ANY TYPE OF SPORTS. I MEAN, WE HAVE THE FIELDS, BUT THERE'S NO ONE THAT'S TRYING TO COME TOGETHER AND TRY TO MAKE ANYTHING POSSIBLE. AND I JUST REALLY THINK THAT IT'S SAD BECAUSE WHEN I GREW UP IN INDIAN TOWN, THERE WAS SPORTS, THERE WAS TEE BALL, THERE WAS SOCCER, THERE WAS BASEBALL, THERE WAS ALL TYPES FOOTBALL. I MEAN CHEERLEADING, EVERYTHING. AND NOW THERE'S NOTHING. THAT'S THAT'S SAD. IT'S LIKE, WHAT IS THERE FOR? WHAT IS THERE FOR OUR YOUTH TO DO? THERE'S NOTHING HERE. AND I JUST REALLY THINK THAT WE ARE, AS A COMMUNITY, AS A VILLAGE, WE SHOULD OFFER MORE, NOT JUST ABOUT WHAT'S GOING AROUND. LIKE, LOOK AT LOOK AT OUR YOUTH. I THINK IT'S SAD, BUT NICE SPEAKING WITH YOU GUYS. THANK
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YOU. ROSENDO PACHECO. GOOD EVENING SIR. HI, ROSENDO PACHECO. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE PUTTING IT ON FACEBOOK AND STUFF, AND THEY'RE NOT HERE OR THEY'RE HERE, AND I'M ONE OF THE MAIN ONES THAT HAS TO DO SOME TALKING. BUT I'M ALWAYS STAND UP FOR MY WORD. AND I'M HERE SHOWING MY FACE, SO THAT'S GOOD. WHEN YOU SHOW YOUR FACE AND YOU SAY WHAT YOU FEEL, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE FACTS. I DON'T CARE TO KNOW ALL THE FACTS. THE THING, THE ONLY THING THAT I KNOW IS WE GOT AWAY FROM STUART TO NOT BE LOOKED AFTER AND EVERYTHING. AND WE CREATED THIS NOT PERFECT GOVERNMENT, BUT OUR NEIGHBORS TO LOOK OUT FOR EACH OTHER. LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW THE FACTS.THE THING IS, WE CANNOT KEEP AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE CAN'T KEEP CHANGING THE RULES. AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CHANGING THE RULES DON'T LIVE HERE. SO IF YOU DON'T LIVE HERE, IT'S EASY TO SAY TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE YOU DON'T. I WAS RAISED IN BOOKER PARK. I NO LONGER LIVE IN BOOKER PARK, BUT EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS THAT I GET ALONG WITH EVERYBODY. THERE'S NO RACE FOR ME. IF YOU CALL ME RACIST, THEN YOU MUST BE THE RACIST ONE BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME THAT WAY, AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT THE PARKS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO THAT.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME NOW IS TREATING EVERYBODY FAIRLY AND LEAVE YOUR PERSONAL AGENDAS TO THE SIDE YOU'RE SERVING US. WE'RE NOT SERVING YOU. YOU'RE SERVING US. SO YOU LEAVE YOUR PERSONAL AGENDAS ASIDE. AND WHAT IS WRITTEN ON THE ON THE PAPERWORK. IF ANYBODY FOLLOWS THE RULES AND DOES THAT, THEY NEED THE PERMIT. BECAUSE ONCE A GOVERNMENT STARTS TAKING RIGHTS FROM SOME GROUP, WHO'S NEXT AND WHO'S NEXT AND WHO'S NEXT, THEY'RE JUST TESTING THE WATER TO SEE WHAT THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH. SO LET'S ALL BE FAIR. NO PERSONAL NAME CALLING, NOTHING.
I JUST WANTED TO PUT MY FACE ON IT BECAUSE I DO TALK A LOT ON FACEBOOK, AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW WHO IT IS THAT'S TALKIN. I'M NOT SOMEONE THAT'S GOING TO SAY SOMETHING AND DON'T SAY IT TO YOU. I COACHED BASKETBALL WITH THE GIRLS, AS MANY. HERE'S MISS MIKA, I HELP. I'M VERY BLUNT WITH IF YOU'RE NOT GOOD, YOU'RE NOT GOOD. YOU'RE NOT GOOD, YOU'RE NOT GOOD. I'M NOT GOING TO PEPPER YOU UP. GO OUT THERE AND WORK HARDER. SO WE WANT THE COUNCIL. AND THE OTHER THING IS THE NEW COUNCIL. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE AGENDAS. LIKE WHEN ARE WE GOING TO MOVE ON AS A PEOPLE, AS ONE, BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE CARES ABOUT US. LIKE I TOLD THE GIRLS, YOU MIGHT HATE HER, BUT IF YOU PUT THAT UNIFOR, SAY, INDIANTOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL, GUESS WHAT? YOU GO TO MURRAY, THEY'RE GOING TO JUMP ALL OF Y'ALL. SO Y'ALL BETTER STICK TOGETHER. AND THAT'S WHAT WE BETTER DO. WE BETTER STICK TOGETHER. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MISS KIMBERLY JACKSON BROWN. OKAY, KIMBERLY JACKSON BROWN. AND FOR THE RECORD, I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF CONCERNED CITIZENS FOR BROOK PARK, NOT THE PRESIDENT. ALL RIGHT. I'M HERE TONIGHT. AND SOMEWHAT SURPRISED, BUT NOT SURPRISED THAT WE'RE BACK AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE HAD A MEETING ON I THINK IT WAS THE EIGHTH, AND WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD. WE DECIDED THAT, HEY, WE WANT TO BE TREATED FAIRLY. SO IN ORDER TO BE TREATED FAIRLY, WE WOULD DO OUR APPLICATION. WE WOULD CHECK OFF EVERYTHING THAT YOU TELL US WE NEED TO CHECK OFF, AND WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD.
SO I'M KIND OF PERTURBS ME AS TO WHY WE'RE HERE AGAIN. BUT WE WE'RE HERE. SO I NEED TO KNOW.
WE PUT IN OUR APPLICATION, OUR APPLICATION IS COMPLETE. WE TURNED IN ALL OF THE COMPONENTS.
WE HAVE OUR INSURANCE THAT WE HAD TO PAY FOR. WE MAY NOT GET OUR MONEY BACK. IF YOU GUYS DENY IT, BUT WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE ASKED OF US TO DO. BUT WHY ARE WE HERE AGAIN? WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR NOW? THE MORATORIUM? WELL, WE THOUGHT LAST TIME THAT WE SAID THAT WAS YOUR ATTORNEY SAID THAT THAT WASN'T NECESSARY, THAT THE ELDERS COULD MOVE FORWARD AND YOU COULD APPROVE APPLICATIONS ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT LDR. SO IS IT THAT YOU WANT THIS SO BAD THAT YOU WOULD GO AGAINST YOUR OWN ATTORNEY? ARE WE WAITING FOR THE ELDERS, THE LANGUAGE AND THE ELDERS TO BE CHANGED? BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THAT TARGETS US BECAUSE IN THOSE EMAILS IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS WANT THIS? WE'RE MAKING THESE CHANGES AND IT TALKS ABOUT SWAMPFEST. WE CAN GIVE YOU A COPY OF IT IF YOU LIKE, BUT I'M SURE YOU CAN GET THAT. UNLIKE SOME, I DON'T LOVE INDIAN TOWN, INCLUDING BOOKER PARK. I LOVE INDIAN TOWN AS A WHOLE. NO PART IS SEPARATED. I LOVE INDIAN TOWN AND THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE BRINGS ME BRINGS TO MIND THE DAYS OF JIM CROW, WHEN
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LAWS WERE DESIGNED TO KEEP US IN OUR PLACES. IS THIS WHAT MY BELOVED INDIAN TOWN HAS BECOME? IS THIS WHAT IT HAS BECOME? BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER THIS, I LEFT INDIAN TOWN AT SOME POINT AND WENT TO MIAMI AND THE BIG CITY LIFE JUST WASN'T FOR ME BECAUSE HERE I COULD DEPEND ON THE PEOPLE AROUND ME. WHEN MY CHILDREN WERE AT THE SCHOOL, WHETHER THEY WERE IN THE PLANT, PLAYGROUNDS, WHEREVER THEY WERE. I DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY TOO MUCH BECAUSE I HAD EVERYBODY AROUND ME SUPPORTING ME. BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? AND YOU KEEP TELLING ME WHAT THE VILLAGE DOESN'T HAVE. YOU KNOW WHAT? KEEP ACTING LIKE YOU'RE ACTING AND WE'LL FIND OUT HOW MUCH THE VILLAGE IS WORTH. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO STAND FOR IT. WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE'VE GIVEN YOU.EVERYTHING THERE'S NO REASON FOR THAT FOR US NOT. YOU CAN PUT US. YOU CAN GO ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT US. SO WHY YOU CAN'T GO ON THE AGENDA TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION? AND BEFORE I END THIS, I'M GOING TO LET YOU KNOW. AIN'T NOBODY IN HERE AGAIN THAT I HATE. I LOVE YOU ALL. AND GUESS WHAT? AIN'T NOTHING YOU COULD DO ABOUT IT. THANK YOU, MISS SUZANNA. ISAIAH'S HELLO.
GOOD NIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. IT'S THE FIRST TIME. LIKE I COME TO TALK. IT'S JUST A PERSON. IT'S JUST A PERSONAL OPINION. WE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. I HEAR YOUR NAME. OH, MY NAME IS SUSANA SALAS. AND, IT'S OKAY IF I CAN. TALKING ABOUT BOTH QUESTIONS OR JUST IN ENGLISH ABOUT BOTH LANGUAGES. OH, SWEETHEART. DO. YES. DO YOUR HEART. YEAH. OH, OKAY. YES THE FIRST THING IS THE. WHAT IS THE IS A QUESTION FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE SWAMPFEST, WHAT IS THE BIGGEST REASON YOU HAVE FOR NOT MAKING A CHANGE OF LOCATION AND AT LEAST TRY TO FIND OUT IF IT IS WORTH THINKING ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. PLUS THE VISITORS. SINCE THERE ARE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE COMING TO THESE EVENTS. CUAL ES LA RAZON MAS GRANDE? QUÉ USTEDES TIENEN PARA NO HACER UN CAMBIO DE LUGAR PARA SABER FUNCIONA PENSANDO EN LA SEGURIDAD DE TODA LA COMUNIDAD, MA LOS VISITANTES YA CADA VEZ HAY MAS PERSONAS DE ESTOS EVENTOS. THE SECOND ONE. PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE CHARLESTON STREET AND 1/71. THE NOISE OF THE PEOPLE, THE NUMBER OF CARS AND THE TREMENDOUSLY LOUD SOUND OF THE MUSIC AND THE FACT AT THE FACT THAT USE MY PROPERTY ARE PARKING LOT BOTHERS ME, INCLUDING THE FACT THAT THEY DRIVE VERY FAST DOWN THAT STREET, ENDANGERING PEDESTRIANS, PLUS THE GARBAGE ON MY PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORS AND THE PERSONAL ME GUSTARIA UN CAMBIO YO VIVO EN LA CALLE CHARLESTON STREET Y SIENTO UN EL RITMO DE LA GENTE Y LA CANTIDAD DE CARROS Y EL SONIDO DE LA MUSICA TREMENDAMENTE ALTO Y MI PROPIEDAD. COMO ESTACIONAMIENTO ME MOLESTA INCLUYENDO. QUÉ MANEJAN MUY RAPIDO POR ESA CAL PONIENDO EN PELIGRO A LOS PEATONES Y PUES TIENEN LA BASURA EN MI PROPIEDAD Y LA PROPIEDAD DE LOS OTROS VECINOS. THE THIRD ONE, THE LAST ONE BEFORE WHAT I REALLY SAW WAS THAT ONLY THOSE FROM THE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATED, SUCH AS FAMILY AND FRIENDS. THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT WITH THE GROWING POPULARITY OF THIS EVENT FROM 2000 TO 2, FROM 202,000 PEOPLE, MORE ORGANIZATION AND MORE SECURITY ARE NEEDED FOR OUR COMMUNITY. APART FROM A GOOD INVESTMENT IN MONEY, I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE SAFETY OF OPEN STREETS. WITH SO MANY PEOPLE WALKING EVERYWHERE. ANY INCIDENT CAN HAPPEN AT ANY MINUTE. THANK YOU. THAT IS IT. MADAM MAYOR.
OKAY. THANK YOU EVERYONE. MOVING ON TO COMMENTS BY OUR VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. GOOD EVENING. IT'S NICE TO SEE THIS ROOM FILLED WITH, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT ARISES WITH THE COUNCIL. SO AS I SIT HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY, THIS IS MY FINAL COUNCIL MEETING. I'M FILLED WITH GRATITUDE, HUMILITY, AND A DEEP SENSE OF HONOR. FOR THE PAST SIX
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YEARS, YOU ENTRUSTED ME WITH THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING YOU AS YOUR REPRESENTATIVE. FROM THE FIRST DAY, I UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS ROLE WAS NOT ABOUT ME, BUT ALL ABOUT YOU. THE HEART AND SOUL OF THIS GREAT COMMUNITY. TOGETHER, WE HAVE NAVIGATED CHALLENGES, CELEBRATED SUCCESSES, WORKED TO ENSURE THAT UNIONTOWN REMAINS A PLACE WE ARE ALL PROUD TO CALL HOME. EVERY DECISION, EVERY VOT, AND EVERY AND EVERY DISCUSSION WAS MADE WITH INTENT TO IMPROVING THE LIVES OF OUR RESIDENTS AND PRESERVING THE VALUES THAT MAKE THIS TOWN SPECIAL. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY DEEPEST THANKS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR YOUR TRUST, SUPPORT, AND BELIEF IN ME THROUGHOUT THESE YEARS. IT HAS BEEN AN EXTRAORDINARY JOURNEY AND I'M PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED TOGETHER. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPRESS MY SINCERE GRATITUDE TO RENITA PRESSLER. MY PLANNING AND ZONING APPOINTEE. RENITA, YOUR DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT TO SERVING OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN INVALUABLE. YOU APPROACHED YOUR ROLE WITH WISDOM, FAIRNESS, AND A DEEP CONCERN FOR THE FUTURE OF UNIONTOWN. I AM I AM GRATEFUL FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND ALL YOUR HARD WORK OVER THE YEARS. THANK YOU, RENITA, FOR YOUR TIRELESS SERVICE AND BEING A FEARLESS FIGHTER. AS I STEPPED DOWN, I WANT TO REMIND YOU OF SOMETHING IMPORTANT. THIS COUNCIL, THE ONE YOU ELECTED, HOLDS SIGNIFICANT AUTHORITY. THEY HAVE THE POWER TO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF UNIONTOWN. IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT YOU REMAIN VIGILANT AND ENGAGED IN THE DECISIONS BEING MADE HERE. JUST AS YOU HAVE BEEN THROUGHOUT MY TIME IN OFFICE. YOUR VOICE MATTERS. YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THIS PROCESS IS VITAL. HOLD THIS COUNCIL ACCOUNTABLE. WATCH OVER THEM WITH THE SAME CARE AND PASSION WITH WHICH YOU WATCHED OVER ME. BECAUSE IN THE END, THIS GOVERNMENT BELONGS TO YOU, THE PEOPLE OF UNIONTOWN. I AM CONFIDENT THAT OUR COMMUNITY WILL CONTINUE TO THRIVE, BUT WILL DO SO ONLY WITH YOUR ACTIVE INVOLVEMENT. STAY INFORMED, STAY CONNECTED AND KEEP FIGHTING FOR THE UNIONTOWN YOU BELIEVE IN. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR ALLOWING ME TO SERVE YOU. IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR OF A LIFETIME THOUGH MY TIME AS YOUR REPRESENTATIVE HAS COME TO AN END. MY LOVE AND DEDICATION TO THIS TOWN WILL NEVER WAIVER. IT LOOKS. I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO SERVE IN NEW WAYS AND STANDING BESIDE YOU AS A FELLOW RESIDENT OF THIS WONDERFUL COMMUNITY MAY UNIONTOWN'S FUTURE BE BRIGHT AND MAY OUR WORK HERE ALWAYS BE GUIDED BY THE PRINCIPLES OF INTEGRITY, TRANSPARENCY, AND THE COMMON GOOD. ALISTAR SENTADA AQUI HOY ES MI ULTIMA REUNION DEL CONSEJO ME INVADE UN SENTIMIENTO DE GRATITUDE. HUMILDAD Y UN PROFUNDO HONOR DURANTE LOS ULTIMOS SEIS ANOS, ME HAN OTORGADO EL PRIVILEGIO DE SERVIR COMO SU REPRESENTANTE DESDE EL PRIMER DIA COMPRENDI ESTE CARGO. NO SE TRATA DE ME SINO DE TODOS USTEDES EL CORAZON Y EL ALMA DE ESTE GRAN COMUNIDAD JUNTOS. HEMOS ENFRENTADO DESAFIOS CELEBRADO ÉXITOS Y TRABAJADO PARA ASEGURAR UNIONTOWN. SIGA SIENDO UN LUGAR DE TODOS NOSOTROS NOS SENTIMOS ORGULLOSOS DE LLAMAR HOGAR, CADA DECISION CADA VOTO Y CADA DISCUSSION SE RELACION CON LA INTENCION DE MEJORAR LA VIDA DE NUESTROS RESIDENTES Y PRESERVAR. LOS VALORES HACEN ESPACIAL A ESTE PUEBLO. QUIERO EXPRESAR MI MAS PROFUNDO AGRADECIMIENTO A CADA UNO DE USTEDES POR SU CONFIANZA APOYO Y FE EN MI MI DURANTE ESTOS ANOS HACIA UN VIAJE EXTRAORDINARY EXTRAORDINARIO YO ESTOY ORGULLOSA DE LO HEMOS LOGRADO JUNTOS TAMBIÉN QUISIERA TOMAR UN MEMENTO PARA EXPRESAR MY SINCERE GRATITUDE A RENITA ME DESIGNADO PARA EL COMITÉ DE PLANIFICATION Y CERTIFICATION. RENITA TU DEDICATION Y COMPROMISO CON NUESTRA COMUNIDAD HA SIDO INVALUABLE ABORDAR DE PAPEL CON SABIDURIA EQUIDAD Y UN PROFUNDO UNA PROFUNDA PREOCUPACION PARA O FUTURO DE UNIONTOWN. ESTOY AGRADECIDA POR TU COLABORACION Y TODO TO DO TRABAJO A LO LARGO DE LOS ANOS. GRACIAS, RENITA POR TU SERVICIO AHORA QUÉ ME RETIRO? QUIERO RECORDARLES ALGO IMPORTANTE ESTE CONSEJO. EL Q USTEDES DIJERON TIENEN UNA AUTORIDAD SIGNIFICANT. ELLOS TIENEN EL PODER DE DAR EL FUTURO DE UNIONTOWN. ESA ESSENTIAL Q Q PERMANECEN VIGILANTES Y COMPROMETIDOS CON LAS DECISIONES Q SE TOMAN AQUI TAL COMO LO HAN ESTADO DURANTE MI TIEMPO EN MI EN EL CARGO, SU PARTE DE SU PARTICIPACION EN ESTE PROCESO ES VITAL MANTENGAN A ESTE CONSEJO RESPONSABLE VIGILANTE CON CON EL MISMO CUIDADO Y CON LOS Q ME VALORAN A ME PORQUE AL FINAL. ESTO ES GOBIERNO LES PERTENECE A[00:35:02]
USTEDES AL PUEBLO DE UNIONTOWN. ESTOY SEGURO DE QUÉ ESTA Q NUESTRA COMUNIDAD SEGUIRA ESPERANDO. PERO ES TODO LO AHORA CON SU PARTICIPACION ACTIVA. MANTENGAN LOS INFORMADOS CONECTADOS Y SIGUEN LUCHANDO POR EL UNIONTOWN. EL Q CREAN UNA VEZ MAS GRACIAS POR PRETERM SERVERLESS. HA SIDO EL HONOR DE MI VIDA. AUNQUE MI TIEMPO COMO REPRESENTANTE Y LLEGA A SU FIN, MI AMOR Y DEDICACION A ESTE PUEBLO NUNCA DISMINUIR. ESPERO SEGUIR SIRVIENDO EN NUESTRA DE NUEVAS MANERAS. YA ESTAR A SU LADO COMO UN RESIDENTE. MAS DE ESTA MARAVILLOSA COMUNIDAD Q EL FUTURO DE UNIONTOWN SE HA BRILLANTE NUESTRO TRABAJO AQUI SIEMPRE SEGUIR POR LOS PRINCIPIOS DE INTEGRIDAD TRANSPARENCIA Y EL BIEN KOMORNE. GRACIAS, RENITA. GRACIAS. EL PUEBLO DE UNIONTOWN. GRACIAS AL STAFF. THANK YOU TO THE STAFF AND I JUST WANT TO SAY AT THE END THAT, YOU KNOW, MARTIN COUNTY IN THIS LAST ELECTION DECIDED THE EAST COAST DECIDED THAT THEY THEY THEY WERE TIRED OF OVERDEVELOPMENT AND UNIONTOWN NEEDS TO WATCH OUT BECAUSE UNIONTOWN JUST LITERALLY JUST OPENED THE DOORS FOR DEVELOPMENT. SO PLEASE STAY STAY STRONG, I WILL BE HERE ALL AROUND, AND I WANT TO THANK THIS WHOLE COUNCIL THAT HAVE SAT WITH FOR SOME MONTHS OR SOME WEEKS, FOR YEARS, AND SO I WANT TO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER. FIRST, I WANT TO SAY GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE. Y'ALL DIDN'T SAY GOOD EVENING.THAT'S RUDE. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. ALRIGHT I LOVE IT, I LOVE IT. ALRIGHT. I'M GLAD EVERYBODY CAME BECAUSE WHAT THAT SAYS IS THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ISSUES AT HAND. SO THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A PLUS. OKAY I WAS GETTING READY TO SAY PRAISE THE LORD LIKE I'M IN CHURCH, BUT THAT'S GREAT. OKAY, SO A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN SAID TONIGHT AND THEY'RE ALL VERY POSITIVE THINGS AND THEY'RE ALL CONCERNING THINGS, RIGHT? OKAY, LET'S START WITH, THE BABY, MISS HARRIS SPORTS. OKAY. SHE SAID, NO, THERE'S NO NOTHING HERE FOR THE KIDS. OKAY. THAT'S BEEN A QUESTION. THAT'S BEEN A THOUGHT. THAT'S BEEN A CONCERN FOR YEARS. IS THAT RIGHT? Y'ALL THAT'S BEEN A YEAR. OKAY, SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE READY TO START VOLUNTEERING? BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T OKAY, OKAY. TAKE NOTE OKAY. SO AND SOME OF YOU DO VOLUNTEER WITH THE KIDS OKAY. SO HERE'S THE THING. THEY ARE WORKING ON. OR WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING GETTING THINGS TOGETHER FOR SPORTS. BUT I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE WHATEVER WE WANT. GUESS WHAT? WE ALL HAVE TO COME TOGETHER TO DO IT, MISS HARRIS, YOU, ME CAN HAVE ALL THE GREAT THINGS FOR OUR KIDS, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL OF Y'ALL. IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL OF US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT. NOT JUST TWO DAYS, NOT JUST A YEAR, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE CONTINUOUS. NOW, I HEAR A LOT OF STUFF WE LIKE, MISS HARRIS SAID NOW. AND I'M THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP, BEING A YOUNG WOMAN, AND STEPPED UP A LOT. I'VE HEARD A LOT. WELL, WHEN I WAS YOUNGER IN UNIONTOWN, THIS, THAT AND OTHER, I GREW UP IN BROWARD COUNTY AND WE HAD A LOT OF STUFF AS WELL. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU PARENTS HAD TO STEP UP. PARENTS HAD TO VOLUNTEER.
YOU KNOW, YOUNG MEN, EVERYBODY. SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU ALL CAME. AND I'M GLAD Y'ALL HEARD WHAT MISS HARRIS SAID. SO WHEN WE START GETTING THINGS IN PLACE, I'M GOING TO SAY, MISS HARRIS, GO GET THEM PEOPLE, BECAUSE THEY DID SAY THEY WAS GOING TO VOLUNTEER. AND DON'T Y'ALL SAY, NO. Y'ALL SAID I SAW YOUR HANDS, OKAY? THEY GOT PEOPLE OUT THERE. OKAY. WHAT'S YOUR NAME? MY NAME IS MR. JOSEPH. Y'ALL HEARD WHAT MR. JOSEPH SAID. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. JOSEPH. IT'S ON RECORD NOW. MR. JOSEPH JUST PUT Y'ALL OUT THERE AND SAID THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE RIGHT. SO MR. JOSEPH AND MISS HARRIS, WE AIN'T GOT NO EXCUSES, RIGHT? ALL WE NEED TO DO IS GET IT GOING.
IS THAT CORRECT? YOU DOING IT NOW? ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. NOW, MR. CHAIRMAN. OKAY. SEE, MY STUDENTS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME BECAUSE I MISSED THEIR NAMES UP TOO. SO I CALL THEM BABY LOVE.
HONEY. SO, MR. PACHECO RIGHT. OKAY. DID YOU CALL ME SIR? OKAY OKAY. MR. PACHECO, IT WAS A MISTAKE. SO MR. PACHECO, I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID. NEW COUNCIL STICK TOGETHER AND THAT'S. AND THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE MISSION. BECAUSE IF WE STICK TOGETHER AS YOU PRESCRIBE, WE WON'T HAVE A BUNCH
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OF ISSUES THAT. CORRECT. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE MISSION. THAT'S THE GOAL. BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING ON MANY DEVELOPMENTS. DEVELOPMENTS IS COMING. DEVELOPMENT IS COMING OKAY. IT'S ALREADY HERE. SO THE THINGS THAT WE NEED, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALL OF THAT IS HERE. IT'S COMING. IT'S NOT GOING BACKWARDS. WE'RE NOT GOING BACKWARDS. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND STICKING TOGETHER IS THE NUMBER ONE THING ACROSS GENDER, ACROSS CULTURE, ACROSS EVERYTHING. WE MUST STICK TOGETHER WITHOUT THAT WE HAVE NOTHING. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. PACHECO. AND THEN, MISS KIM, I'M GOING TO JUST GO AND PUT IT ON ON RECORD. KIM IS MY FRIEND AND WE HAVE DISAGREEMENTS, RIGHT, KIM? WE HAVE. WE HAVE DISAGREEMENTS. WE HAVE MISUNDERSTANDINGS. WE HAVE ALL OF THAT. BUT AS AND SHE UNDERSTANDS MY POSITION. OKAY, SO I GOT ONE QUESTION. SHE SAID MOVING, MOVING FAIRLY. I'M GOING TO SUGGEST AGAIN THAT KIM AND THE CONCERNED CITIZENS OF BOCA PARK MEET WITH COUNCIL AND STAFF. LET'S FIGURE THIS THING OUT ABOUT THIS APPLICATION. I WANT TO HEAR THIS NO MORE. I WANT US TO DEAL WITH THIS, GET IT OFF THE TABLE. SO WHEN YOU GUYS COME OR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS FORWARD MARCHING. OKAY, CAN WE DO THAT? YES, WE CAN. I ANSWER FOR YOU? OKAY ALRIGHT. NOW, MISS, MISS SUZANNA. RIGHT.ALL RIGHT. MISS SUZANNA ASKED A VALID QUESTION AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE ASKED. NOW I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HAVING THE GUTS, RIGHT, TO STAND UP AND SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY. MISS SUZANNA SAID. WHY DO WE NEED TO HAVE IT NOW, Y'ALL? SOME PEOPLE MAY GET MAD AND THAT'S OKAY. MISS SUZANNA, BECAUSE YOU'RE A RESIDENT, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO SAY WHAT YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO SAY AND BOOK APART. OKAY, SO. SO SHE WANT TO KNOW WHY DO WE. CALL YOU IN IN THE IN BOOK? OKAY SO, ANOTHER PERSON OPPORTUNITY AND YOUR TIME. OKAY. SO MISS, MISS SUZANNA, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. WE CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE VICE PRESIDENT. AFTER THIS MEETING, YOU AND THE VICE PRESIDENT NEED TO SIT DOWN, AND YOU NEED TO VOTE. NO. YOU JUST WAIT. VOICE YOUR OPINION AND CONCERN UP. I'M TALKING RIGHT NOW, THOUGH, MISS DIANE PARKER.
OKAY, SO YOU'RE GOING TO TALK WITH MISS THE VICE PRESIDENT. AND IF TIME ALLOWS AND THE MAYOR SAYS, OKAY, MISS JACKSON BROWNE, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO THOSE THOSE ARE, ARE, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE VERY EVERYBODY THAT MAKE STATEMENTS. THOSE ARE VERY VALID STATEMENTS. AND EVERYBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR VOICE HEARD. AND I HOPE THAT IN MY LITTLE SPIEL HERE THAT WE HAVE ADDRESSED MOST OF IT. OKAY. SO THAT'S MY REMEDY TO, TO FIX THIS STUFF. WE ALL KNOW INDIAN TOWN IS GOING TO GROW. PEOPLE ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT IT. PEOPLE ARE ALREADY INVESTING IN THIS TOWN WILL NOT BE WHAT IT USED TO BE. SOME PEOPLE LIKE IT. SOME PEOPLE DON'T. IT'S GOING TO BRING GROWTH, RIGHT? AND IT'S GOING TO BRING FINANCES. WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET OUR TAX BASE THE WAY WE WANT IT TO, WHERE WE WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, BECAUSE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS NOTHING HAS HAPPENED. EVERYTHING HAS STAYED THE SAME. WE CAN'T GROW IF THINGS ARE STILL THE SAME. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THAT'S JUST LIKE YOUR LITTLE BABY. MISS HARRIS. YOU DON'T WANT THAT BABY TO STAY TWO YEARS. TWO YEARS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEN THAT'S A PROBLEM. OKAY? SO I WANT US TO HAVE NOT JUST NOT JUST, I WANT US TO HAVE A SMART MINDSET. LET'S LET'S START THINKING A LITTLE DIFFERENT. IF WE DON'T THINK DIFFERENT, GUESS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? WE'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK HERE IN ANOTHER TEN YEARS WITH NOTHING.
OKAY, SO WHETHER IT'S THE SWAMP FEST, WHETHER IT'S THE, BLACK HISTORY, WHATEVER SPECIAL PROGRAM IT IS, LET'S NOT LET THAT DETOUR FROM THE MISSION. AND THE MISSION IS GROWING TOGETHER. THE MISSION IS BUILDING INDIAN TOWN TO BE A MONUMENT. AND YOU ALL ARE A PART OF THAT. SO I WOULD I'M ADVISING AND ASKING ALL OF US, AS MR. PACHECO SAID, LET'S CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. CAN WE DO THAT? YES. I ANSWER FOR YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, NO, NOT AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR PEREZ, GOOD EVENING.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, I WANT TO TOUCH ON SPORTS, WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE A SOCCER LEAGUE.
WE ARE INDIAN TOWN WARRIORS. WE FORMED THE ASSOCIATION IN 2018. I SAW THAT THERE WAS NOTHING OUT
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HERE. YOU KNOW, I HAVE A SON. I HAVE A 13 YEAR OLD AND A 19 YEAR OLD. AND MY LITTLE ONE PLAYS TRAVEL. HE'S OUT OF PALM CITY, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE BACK TO MY COMMUNITY. I WANTED TO GIVE MY TIME. I WANTED FOR THE KIDS TO DO SOMETHING. THERE WAS NOTHING HERE. SO I ASKED THAT, YOU KNOW, LET'S GET TOGETHER. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE T-BALL OUT HERE. BASEBALL, SOFTBALL, VOLLEYBALL.YOU KNOW, LIKE I ALWAYS SAY, IF THEY CAN DO IT ON THE COAST, WHY CAN'T WE DO IT HERE? YOU KNOW, IF WE FORMED OUR PTA, WHY DO WE HAVE PALM CITY MOMS BRINGING OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF LUNCH WHEN WE CAN DO IT HERE? BUT WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN? YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS I'M ALWAYS THE ONE ASKING, OH, CAN CAN YOU BRING ME A CASE OF WATER? CAN YOU BRING ME A SODA? CAN YOU DONATE 20 FOR THE BREAKFAST? LUNCH? BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER. BUT I ALSO WANT TO ASK, ARE WE GOING TO DO ANY FIELD UPDATES AT BIG MOUND? WE'RE ABOUT TO START OUR LEAGUE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE HOME GAMES IF OUR FIELDS ARE LOOKING NOT IN THE BEST SHAPE. WELL, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE OF THE USE OF THOSE, THEY NEVER GET A CHANCE TO REST, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE FIELDS NEED THAT OPPORTUNITY TO REGENERATE, IF YOU WILL, SO I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO BUDGET, TOO. THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO IMPROVE THE MULTI RECREATIONAL FIELD OVER AT BOOKER PARK SO THAT FOLKS WOULD HAVE SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT THEY COULD GO TO ALLEVIATE THE OVERUSE OF, BIG MOUND. YEAH. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TEAMS COMING IN FROM PALM CITY, PORT SAINT LUCIE, JENSEN, HOBE SOUND AND THEN YOU CAN HEAR THE PALM BEACH GARDENS. PARENTS LIKE, OH, WHAT KIND OF FEEL YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE TAX BASE LIKE YOU GUYS. BUT YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE SOMETHING PRESENTABLE TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO VISIT AND COMING, HAVING THEIR KIDS PLAY AT BIG MOUND. I MEAN, YOU SEE THE CROWDS, YOU SEE I'M LIKE, OH MY GOD, MY FRIEND IS PLAYING ON THE SOCCER TEAM OR THIS AND THAT. AND YOU KNOW, THE PARENTS MINGLE. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND IF WE CAN INVEST A LITTLE MORE ON THE, ON THE FIELDS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OH DULY NOTED. WE'VE GOT THE BUDGET COMING TO YOU TONIGHT. THANK YO. OKAY THANK YOU. OKAY. AND I AND I HAVE TO SAY, I ECHO MANY SENTIMENTS BY BY EACH OF THESE, BUT I'VE WORKED AT A SCHOOL FOR OVER 20 YEARS. YOU GOT TO LOVE A SCHOOL TEACHER. THEY JUST THEY PUT IT OUT THERE AND I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBERS. PALMER'S COMMENTS AND OBSERVATIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE RIGHT ON. I'M TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MISS HARRISON, THE SPORTS AND GROWING UP AND GROWING UP. AND AS A YOUNG ADULT GROWING MY CHILDREN HERE HAD T-BALL, HAD FOOTBALL. I WAS A DUGOUT MOM. I WAS A LEAGUE PRESIDENT. SO IT TAKES A WHOLE COMMUNITY WORKING TOGETHER. AND IT TAKES COMMUNICATION. WE HAVE TO KEEP THIS COMMUNICATION OPEN. THIS IS GREAT HAVING SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM CONCERNED, BECAUSE EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM, I TRULY BELIEVE IN MY HEART IS HERE BECAUSE OF THEIR SINCERE CONCERN AND LOVE FOR THIS COMMUNITY. AND WE'RE TALKING THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, NOT, YOU KNOW, EACH NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ITS OWN INDIVIDUAL FLAVOR, BUT WE ARE INDIAN TOWN, EVERY COMMUNITY, EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD MAKES UP INDIAN TOWN. SO WE HAVE TO KEEP THIS GOING. AND COMMUNICATION IS THE KEY. AND TALKING ABOUT GROWTH THIS YEAR WE ARE BACK AT A POPULATION THAT WE WERE TEN YEARS AGO. WE WERE LOSING PEOPLE. WE WERE DYING. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE A GOOD GROCERY STORE. PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE SPORTS PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE ALL THESE THINGS. BUT IT TAKES MOVING FORWARD. YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T GO BACKWARDS AND GOING BACKWARDS. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DYING IF YOU'RE NOT GROWING, YOU'RE DYING LIKE THAT TWO YEAR OLD CHILD. YOU KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO STAY TWO YEARS OLD. IT'S GOT TO GROW IN ORDER TO IN ORDER TO, TO HAVE SOMETHING SO, ALSO, I WANT TO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, I EXPRESS MY SINCERE GRATITUDE AND THANK COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ FOR HER SERVICE AND COMMITMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY. I KNOW THAT SHE HAS A HEART FOR THIS COMMUNITY, AND SHE HAS, I KNOW, SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN EDUCATING HERSELF IN ORDER TO DO HER JOB. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY. AND WE'RE JUST, MOVING FORWARD. WE HAVE TO
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MOVE FORWARD. WE CANNOT GET STAGNANT. WE CANNOT GET INTO A RUT OF JUST FUSSING BACK AND FORTH. WE ARE FAMILY. WE ARE FAMILY. AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST FUSS BACK AND FORTH AND NOTHING EVER GETS SOLVED. WELL, WE GOT TO SOLVE IT AND MOVE ON. WE DO. AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S HEART BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE GENERAL CONSENSUS. LET'S DEAL WITH IT AND LET'S MOVE ON. SO SPEAKING OF MOVING ON, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS? OKAY DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS BY OUR VILLAGE MANAGER? OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE[APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]
AGENDA WITH THE PULLED ITEM? I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE AGENDA WITH THE FOUR ITEM MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION? NO. MADAM MAYOR, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE I HI PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. MOVING ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. PASSED 4 TO 1 MAYOR. PASSED 4 TO 1. WHO DISAGREED. APOLLO. OH, I THOUGHT HE SAID HE AGREED. NO OH. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU FOR HAVING BETTER EARS THAN WHAT I HAVE. OKAY, SO MOVING ON TO THE[CONSENT AGENDA]
CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA? MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION? NO MA'AM. ALL IN FAVOR? I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, OUR FISCAL[4.
FY 2024-2025 Budget Presentation
]YEAR 2425 BUDGET PRESENTATION. YES. I'M GOING TO LEAD OFF THE CONVERSATION, IF YOU WILL. AND THEN MR. FLORIO WILL JUMP IN, I JUST HAVE A FEW SLIDES. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND THE TAX BASE THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH. I KNOW YOU HAD APPROVED HAVING THAT MILLAGE RATE BE RAISED SLIGHTLY IN THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR. AND SO I THINK AS YOU SEE MORE OF THE, PRESENTATION AND THEN MR. FLORIO WILL CHIME IN. SO RENEE, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THIS IS JUST A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT I'M GOING TO GO OVER. THERE'S JUST LIKE I SAID, A FEW NUMBER OF SLIDES.NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THANKS, RENEE. SO THIS SLIDE TELLS YOU THAT WE HAVE 2856 TOTAL PARCELS HERE IN THE VILLAGE. AND OF THOSE PARCELS, YOU CAN SEE THE ONES THAT ARE KIND OF A PINK AND REDDISH TONE ARE YOUR RESIDENTIAL ONES. AND THEY TOTAL 1964. AND THAT'S A TOTAL OF 68.8%. THE OTHER ONES, THE YELLOW ONE, IS YOUR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRY AND MISCELLANEOUS.
THERE'S 202 PARCELS THERE. YOUR BLUE WEDGE IS THE PERSONAL PROPERTY WITH 530 PARCELS THERE.
THE GREEN IS AG WITH 96 PARCELS THERE. AND THEN THE GRAY IS YOUR GOVERNMENT AND INSTITUTIONAL WITH 64 PARCELS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THIS IS JUST A RECAP OF YOUR TAX BASE. YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PRIOR YEAR GOING FROM JULY 2023 TO JULY 2024, YOU DID HAVE A 5.6% INCREASE IN YOUR OVERALL TAX BASE. AND THE TAX BASE IS WHAT YOUR TAXES THAT YOU COLLECT IS BASED ON. ALL OF THESE NEXT SLIDES THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, YOU CAN GO AHEAD. THE NEXT ARE AT 95%. AND THE REASON WE DO THAT IS BECAUSE WE'RE REQUIRED BY FLORIDA STATE STATUTE TO BUDGET YOUR REVENUES AT 95% FOR VARYING REASONS. SO THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE AD VALOREM TAX REVENUE WITH THAT 95% REDUCTION.
I MEAN, 95% AT 95%. AND WITH THE MILLAGE RATE OF THE 1.8250, IT WILL INCREASE YOUR REVENUES FOR FROM RESIDENTIAL OR FROM TAXES FOR 4,301,121. THAT WILL BE YOUR TOTAL OF THAT 4.3 MILLION, ALMOST 3.7 MILLION. IT'S THE YELLOW SLICE. HERE COMES FROM THE PERSONAL PROPERTY. AND
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THAT'S MOSTLY FPL. AND THOSE ARE THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THOSE INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL PARCELS THAT ARE TAXED IN A DIFFERENT THEY'RE NOT RESIDENTIAL. LET'S JUST PUT IT EASY, THE RESIDENTIAL IS THAT DARK RED SLICE. AND YOU WOULD YOU WILL TOTAL RESIDENTIAL TAXES TO BE COLLECTED IS $231,393, OR 5.4% OF YOUR TAXES. AND THEN THE GRAY SLICE IS YOUR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL MISCELLANEOUS. THEY HAVE 7.8% OR 338, ALMOST. 100,000. AND THEN THE SMALLER PIECE IS THE INSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH PAYS A SMALL, SMALL PORTION OF TAXES BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE FACILITIES ARE TAX EXEMPT. AND THEN AG PAYS A VERY SMALL AMOUNT AT $710. NEXT SLIDE. THANK YOU RENEE. THANK YOU. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RESIDENTIAL TAXES THAT WE COLLECT AT 95% OF THE AT THE, 1.8250 MILLAGE RATE, YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY, WHICH IS THE RED SLICE. YOU HAVE WHAT THEY CALL CO-OP, WHICH IS THE BLUE SLICE. AND YOU HAVE MULTI-FAMILY WITH THE YELLOW SLICE. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE GREEN WITH THE VACANT LAND AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT COLLECTIONS THAT YOU RECEIVE THERE IN THE NEXT SLIDE. AS I WAS PEELING AWAY AT YOUR TAX BASE, THERE'S A TAXABLE VALUE FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BY THRESHOLDS.THERE'S 1042 PARCELS. AND YOU CAN SEE THE VARYING BARS SHOW THE VALUES OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY VALUES. AND THEY'RE BROKEN DOWN 0 TO 24, NINE, 9925 TO 49, 999, ETC. AND SO YOU HAVE A LARGE PORTION OF YOUR TAX BASE THAT IS PAYING THE TAXES, PAYING LOWER TAXES PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THEIR TAXABLE VALUE BEING LOWER. NEXT ONE PLEASE. THE VILLAGE TAX IS PAID BY SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL IS ANOTHER ONE BY THRESHOLD. AND THEN THAT HAS THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS RATHER THAN THE PERCENTAGE. SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE YOU HAVE 25.9% OF YOUR RESIDENTS VALUE BETWEEN 0 AND 24,999. THAT PORTION OF 25.9% PAY ROUGHLY 5000 $125,000 IN TAXES. THAT MAKES SENSE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY SO BASED ON YOUR NEW. SO I WENT BACK AND I SAID, OKAY, WE GOT TERRA LAGO. WE KNOW WE'VE GOT THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN. SO WHEN A NEW HOME IS ADDED TO YOUR TAX BASE IN THE VALUE AND MR. KELLUM HAS SAID HIS, HIS PRICE POINT, HE'S GOING TO GO FOR $350,000 INITIALLY. SO I TOOK THAT. AND THEN WHAT WE'LL CALL THIS A FLUCTUATION IS IF ANYBODY HAS PORTABILITY OF THEIR HOMESTEAD OR IF THEY GET HOMESTEAD. AND SO THE VILLAGE TAXES THAT WOULD BE PAID FOR THAT ONE HOME AT THE MILLAGE RATE PROPOSED IS $606, $0.81. WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE COMPANY THAT THEY WILL PLAN ON DOING 30 HOMES A MONTH. WHEN YOU MULTIPLY THAT 606 BY THE 30, YOU GET $18,204.38 PER MONTH. FOR A WHOLE YEAR, YOU'LL HAVE 218,453. IT WILL ALMOST DOUBLE WHAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY COLLECTING COLLECTING. BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, WE'RE ALWAYS A YEAR BEHIND. SO AS THOSE HOMES COME ON, IF THEY COME ON NEXT YEAR, WE WILL NOT SEE THE BENEFIT OF HOW MANY COME ON NEXT YEAR UNTIL 2026. SO I JUST WANTED TO BREAK THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT BEFORE MR. FLORIO GETS INTO THE ACTUAL NUMBERS AND CENTS, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR AS YOU DIGEST IT. I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND OUR TAX BASE HERE IN THE VILLAGE, PARTICULARLY. MICHAEL ARE YOU DRIVING? YEAH. OKAY. OOPS.
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OKAY OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING. MIKE FLORIO, FINANCE DIRECTOR. WE'RE GOING TO START KIND OF TOP LEVEL AND THEN WORK DOWN TO SOME MORE SPECIFIC FUND LEVEL INFORMATION AND TALK ABOUT DEPARTMENT BUDGETS. AND WE WILL FINISH THE PRESENTATION WITH OPTIONS OF CONSIDERATION ON THE WAY FORWARD. OKAY. SO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS, PRETTY LARGE WITH A LOT OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, VERY SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO OUR $38 MILLION DEP GRANT, A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE SEWER SYSTEM, THAT'S WHAT'S THE PRIMARY DRIVER THERE, TOTAL BUDGET FOR 24, 25 OF $30.6 MILLION. GENERAL FUND OF 7.9. WATER UTILITY 3.15. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME CIP COSTS THERE, WITH GENERAL GOVERNMENT AND THEN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER, WITH A TOTAL TOTAL FIVE YEAR PLAN, WHICH YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE LATER, WHICH INCLUDES FUNDED AND UNFUNDED PROJECTS OF ABOUT 140 MILLION. OKAY SOME OF THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THIS BUDGET HERE, AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE MILLAGE RATE OF 1.825, WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO CATCH UP WITH LOST REVENUE FROM PRIOR YEARS.WE DID, AS WE KNOW, TAKE A DIP IN 2122 AND 2223. AND THAT'S EFFECTIVELY WHAT WHAT THIS MILLAGE INCREASE DOES IS TRY TO GET US BACK ON TRACK WITH WHERE WE WOULD HAVE BEEN, HAD WE NOT TAKEN THOSE HAIRCUTS AT THAT TIME, AGAIN, WE ARE TRYING TO ALSO STILL MAINTAIN PACE WITH INFLATION COSTS. YOU KNOW, WE DO SEE THAT THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET, IT'S THE RATE OF INFLATION HAS SLOWED, BUT WE'RE STILL SEEING PROBABLY 3 TO 4% INCREASES ON MOST COMMODITIES AND COSTS IN GENERAL, THE BIGGEST CHANGE HERE THAT WE SEE, ON THE REVENUE SIDE IS GOING TO BE THE WATER UTILITY. AND I KNOW WE HAVE A WHOLE OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS WITH THE UPCOMING RESOLUTION FOR CHANGES IN RATES, BUT THE BUDGET WAS BUILT WITH THE ASSUMPTION OF THOSE RATES GOING INTO EFFECT, YOU MAY RECALL FROM OUR LAST MEETING, THE WATER RATES ARE SCHEDULED TO GO UP 40% AND THE SEWER IS TEN AND A HALF TOTAL WEIGHT OF 20 AND ONE HALF. AND AGAIN, THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN FROZEN SINCE REALLY PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS WITH THE UTILITY, A LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE THAT TIME AS FAR AS, PERSONNEL COSTS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST DRIVERS IN THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT A 3% COAL AND TWO MERIT, WHICH WE'VE DONE THE LAST PRIOR TWO YEARS. AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO TRY TO HELP MAINTAIN STAFF, KEEP PACE WITH COST OF LIVING, AND OVERALL INSURANCE COSTS THIS YEAR ARE A LOT MORE MANAGEABLE. IT'S 3%.
PRIOR YEAR WAS NINE, AND OUR CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE REMAINED FLAT, WHICH IS ALSO A GREAT SIGN, NO CHANGE WITH ANY OTHER CLASSES, JUST REGULAR CLASSES. THEY'RE VERY SMALL INCREASE, BUT LARGELY FLAT, AGAIN, BUDGET APPROACH THAT WE HAVE FROM THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL THROUGH ME, THROUGH THE VILLAGE MANAGER, YOU KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL ACCOUNTS, LOOKING AT ALLOCATIONS. WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO TRY TO UTILIZE, MOST EFFICIENT SERVICES THAT WE CAN USING COMPETITIVE BID CONTRACTS GOING OUT TO BID TO GET THE BEST PRICES FOR SERVICE, WE ARE PRIORITIZING, PRIORITIZING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR WATER, SEWER AND GENERAL GOVERNMENT. THAT'S WHERE A BIG BULK OF THE FUNDS COMING IN WILL BE ALLOCATED.
AGAIN. WE HAVE ALSO, AND THEN WE CONTINUE TO LOOK EVERYWHERE WE CAN FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THE BURDEN ON OUR GENERAL GOVERNMENT AND WATER AND SEWER.
OKAY. THIS IS NOT SNAPSHOT HERE OF JUST TOTAL REVENUES FOR THE VILLAGE, THERE'S A LOT THERE, MAYBE A LITTLE BUSY, BUT THAT KIND OF SHOWS YOU WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, AGAIN, THE NUMBER ONE STANDOUT IN THIS BUDGET, THIS COMING YEAR IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, ABOUT $18 MILLION IN TOTAL IMPROVEMENTS WITH SEWER RELATED TO THE 38 MILLION DEP GRANT. THOSE PROJECTS ARE READY TO REALLY START CRANKING THIS COMING YEAR, PROBABLY START MAKING A LOT OF PROGRESS WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW SEWER PLANT, AND OTHER LIFT STATIONS AND OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE IN AND AROUND THE CDD, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THAT IS OKAY. THIS IS KIND OF A BREAKDOWN HERE. JUST A PIE CHART OF VISUAL. THIS IS THE OVERALL
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ALLOCATION. I ACTUALLY REALIZED SITTING HERE THAT I HAD A TYPO FOR CHARGES FOR SERVICES. I HAVE A MISSING ZERO THERE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 10%. IT'S 3,000,250 0002 TEN, NOT 325. BUT YOU GET THE PICTURE. OVERALL, THAT'S JUST A VISUAL OF WHAT OUR TOTAL ALLOCATION LOOKS LIKE. AND ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE YOU CAN SEE IT'S BALANCED EQUATION. TOTAL IMPROVEMENTS REALLY. AGAIN A LOT OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS WITH WATER AND SEWER, PARTICULARLY WITH THE SEWER IMPROVEMENTS OF 20 MILLION. AND EVERYTHING ELSE I THINK IS TRACKING ALONG FAIRLY CONSISTENTLY. AND AGAIN, WE ARE MAKING INCREASING TRANSFERS TO OUR GENERAL GOVERNMENT CIP, FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN BID AWARD PHASE OR STILL IN DESIGN PHASE, THAT SHOULD COMPLETE DESIGN NEXT YEAR. OKAY. AND THIS IS AGAIN THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT ON A PIE CHART. JUST GIVING YOU A VISUAL OF HOW IT ALL LOOKS. WITH TOTAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS MAKING UP THE LION'S SHARE OF THE OVERALL BUDGET. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS DIRECTLY AT GENERAL FUND GENERAL GOVERNMENT, AGAIN, WE HAVE THERE THE AD VALOREM TAX INCREASES BASED ON THE CHANGE IN MILLAGE 81825. YOU KNOW, OUR INCREASES IN INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUES, WHICH HAS TO DEAL WITH GRANTS THAT WE WILL RECEIVE SPECIFICALLY IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE GENERAL FUND, THAT DOES HAVE OTHER REVENUE SHARING THAT WE GET FROM THE STATE, WHICH IS PRIMARILY SALES TAX. WE HAVE OVER $1 MILLION OF THAT THAT WE RECEIVE ANNUALLY THAT IS PROJECTED. AND ON THE BOTTOM HALF OF THAT SCHEDULE, THERE ARE THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES, AND YOU WILL SEE THE, THE INCREASE. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE GREAT THING ABOUT OUR FRIENDS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF TAXABLE VALUE THAT WE GET FROM THEM. BUT OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO GIVE A LOT BACK. SO, THAT WILL 1,000,018 IS THE, THE GRANTS THAT WE THE, THE TPP GRANT THAT IS THE REFUND OF THAT TAX THAT WE COLLECT FROM THEM, AND TRANSFERS OUT ARE REALLY TRANSFERS TO JUST THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT CIP. IT'S SPEND IN THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT OVERALL. OKAY. AND PROPOSED REVENUES HERE. JUST A PIE CHART OF THAT SAME TABLE SHOWING YOU THE ALLOCATION. RIGHT DOWN HERE.OKAY. UTILITY FUND IS A LITTLE LESS HERE. MOST OF WHAT WE HAVE IN THE UTILITY FUND ON THE REVENUE SIDE ARE ESSENTIALLY CHARGES FOR SERVICES, CUSTOMER FEES, AND COSTS, PARDON ME, THE FEE SCHEDULE RELATED TO SERVING CUSTOMERS. THIS IS A BUSINESS ENTERPRISE FUND. SO IT'S A FEE BASED, DRIVEN OPERATION, SOME OF THE OTHER BREAKOUTS THAT THEY'RE TECHNICALLY STILL CHARGES FOR SERVICES, BUT I DO HAVE IN THERE, SOME GUARANTEED REVENUE, WHICH IS RESERVATION OF CAPACITY, FEES AND CHARGES THAT WE COLLECT FROM A COUPLE DEVELOPERS, RIVER OAK PAYS, TERRA LAGO PAYS, AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHERS THAT PAY, FOR RESERVATION OF WATER AND OR SEWER CAPACITY THAT THEY PLAN ON USING AT A FUTURE DATE. SO THEY PAY GUARANTEED REVENUE FOR THAT TO ENSURE THAT THAT CONNECTION CAPACITY IS AVAILABLE IN THE FUTURE, OVERALL OPERATING EXPENSES GOING UP, JUST BASED ON COST AND DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT HAVE BEEN ENCOUNTERED IN THE RECENT YEAR OR SO. AND, CAPITAL OUTLAY WITHIN THE UTILITY, THIS IS SPECIFIC TO JUST GENERAL OPERATIONS WITHIN THE UTILITY, SLIGHT INCREASE IN DEBT SERVICE AND THE TRANSFERS OUT IS THE CONTRIBUTION THAT THE UTILITY MAKES TO FOR GENERAL GOVERNMENT, FOR SERVICES THAT GENERAL GOVERNMENT PROVIDES TO THE UTILITY. SO 3.156 MILLION TOTAL INCREASE OF 22%. AND AGAIN SAME THING HERE. PIE CHART BREAKING THAT OUT. JUST SHOWING YOU THE VISUAL OF HOW IT LOOKS. AND EXPENDITURES HERE. PERSONNEL MAKING UP A LITTLE LESS THAN A THIRD OPERATIONS 1.5 AND DEBT SERVICE WITH OUR STATE REVOLVING FUND. MAKING A SLIGHT UPTICK. WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE DESIGN LOANS THAT CLOSED AND THAT ARE NOW IN REPAYMENT STATUS. SO OUR DEBT SERVICE ON THAT IS INCREASING.
OKAY. THIS HERE IS JUST A SNAPSHOT OF OVERALL REVENUE COLLECTIONS FOR THE CURRENT YEAR. I JUST FIGURED THE COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO SEE THIS OR NO. I DID ADD THE INDIANTOWN TRUST INTO THIS. THAT'S NOT MONEY. THAT, OF COURSE, BELONGS TO THE VILLAGE. BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROBABLY PROJECTING FOR. END OF YEAR IS ABOUT 90,000, IN THAT IT COULD BE COULD BE MAYBE CLOSER TO 95 BEFORE ALL SAID AND DONE. BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT OUR TOTAL REVENUE COLLECTIONS FOR INTEREST HAS BEEN PRETTY GOOD. AND IT'S BEEN,
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IN MANY WAYS, A SAVING GRACE THIS PAST YEAR. I DON'T KNOW. AND YOU'LL SEE IN SOME OF THE PROJECTIONS THAT THAT THAT I HAVE HERE IN THESE TABLES, I DON'T KNOW THAT INTEREST RATES AND EARNINGS WILL BE THE SAME IN NEXT YEAR. IT ALL DEPENDS ON ECONOMY AND, OTHER FACTORS THAT WE DON'T CONTROL, SO I'M NOT ASSUMING THAT WE'LL HAVE THE SAME PERFORMANCE IN OUR INVESTMENT POOL NEXT YEAR THAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR, BECAUSE I DO SUSPECT THAT THERE WILL BE SOME PRESSURE TO LOWER INTEREST RATES, SOME. OKAY. THIS IS A TABLE OF OUR TOTAL STAFFING POSITIONS IN THE VILLAGE. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 26 EMPLOYEES ON THE PAYROLL, 11 PART TIME, AND SEVEN VACANCIES, THERE ARE TWO NEW REQUESTS FOR THE UTILITY FUND THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE LATER IN THE UTILITY BUDGET, SPECIFIC DETAILS THERE. LOOKING FOR SOME WATER AND WASTEWATER MAINTENANCE MECHANIC TRAINEES. PARDON ME. OR TECHNICIAN TRAINEES. SO THAT BRINGS US TO A TOTAL OF 45 POSITIONS. AGAIN OVERALL, PRETTY SMALL STAFF TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. WE ALL WORK PRETTY HARD HERE AND DO A LOT. AND AGAIN, SOME OF THESE VACANCIES THAT WE HAVE HAD THERE THAT YOU'LL SEE WE'VE HAD THEM VACANT FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S BEEN I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ON JULY 25TH. IT'S BEEN VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND CAPABLE QUALIFIED STAFF, I DID JUST HIRE A SENIOR BUYER IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, ABSOLUTELY ECSTATIC ABOUT THAT, I'VE BEEN LOOKING. WE NEED THAT. SO MUCH. AND THIS IS A REALLY GOOD CANDIDATE. I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM ON BOARD, SO THAT WAS A GREAT FIND. ALL RIGHT. AND THIS IS A TOTAL BUDGET IMPACT FOR THOSE TWO WATER WASTEWATER TECHNICIAN TRAINEES, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, ENTRY LEVEL, I BELIEVE THIS IS AT 16 AN HOUR. 16 OR 17 AN HOUR IS WHERE THEY START. ALL RIGHT.SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK. SOME HAVEN'T DONE THIS IN PRIOR BUDGETS, BUT WE'LL TALK SOME SPECIFICS ABOUT THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN THE VILLAGE AND SOME WHAT THEIR SOME OF THEIR BUDGETED COSTS ARE AND WHAT THAT ENTAILS AND INCLUDES. SO GENERAL GOVERNMENT IS ESSENTIALLY, WE KIND OF HAD THE CLERK'S BUDGET AS THIS FOR A WHILE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I TRIED TO, BE CONSIDERATE OF LARONDA AS THE VILLAGE CLERK, AND SHE WANTED HER OWN BUDGET. SO WE CREATED A GENERAL GOVERNMENT FUNCTION THAT'S ESSENTIALLY NON-DEPARTMENTAL. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO CHARGE EVERYTHING TO THE CLERK'S BUDGET. SO I CREATED A GENERAL GOVERNMENT FUNCTION WHICH OTHER, OTHER, OTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES HAVE THAT, AND IT'S A PLACE THAT, AGAIN, NOT ONE. IT'S THESE COSTS ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY TIED TO ONE DEPARTMENT. SO LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE FINAL TWP REBATE REBATE IS GENERAL GOVERNMENT, WE DO HAVE DEBT SERVICE NOW ON VILLAGE HALL. AS YOU RECALL. WE CLOSED ON A LOAN IN DECEMBER AND, OUR TOTAL PAYMENTS THIS YEAR. I THINK ARE 146,000. AND WE WILL HAVE A FULL CYCLE NEXT YEAR, SO IT'LL BE ABOUT 204,000 FOR TOTAL DEBT SERVICE. YOU MAY RECALL THAT LOAN WE MAY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CALL THOSE LOANS IN DECEMBER OF 25. I THINK IT IS. SO WE'LL SEE WHERE WE STAND AT THAT POINT IN TIME WITH SOME OTHER THINGS.
WE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME REAL ESTATE OUT THERE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SELL, AND WE HAVE SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR REVENUE, TO COME INTO THE VILLAGE. AND WE WOULD RETIRE THAT LOAN AT THAT TIME IF IT MAKES ECONOMIC SENSE TO DO SO, WE DO HAVE A, A LOBBYIST THAT DOES GREAT WORK FOR THE VILLAGE. OUTSTANDING WORK. FRANKLY THAT'S THEIR ANNUAL FEES THERE. AND WE HAVE IT. TECH SUPPORT WITH ADVANCED SYSTEM SOLUTIONS WHO HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL. AMAZING, AMAZING GROUP OF PROFESSIONALS WE HAVE WITH THEM. VERY HAPPY. BIG CHANGE FROM WHERE WE WERE. AND AGAIN, GENERAL CONTRACTED SERVICES FOR THE VILLAGE, PROPERTY CASUALTY AND LIABILITY.
AND THEN ON OCCASION, WE HAVE SOME NON-DEPARTMENTAL CAPITAL OUTLAY, THAT LIKE WE JUST BOUGHT A COUPLE OF SURPLUS VEHICLES FROM THE COUNTY, AND WE CHARGE THAT TO GENERAL GOVERNMENT. ALL RIGHT. VILLAGE COUNCIL BUDGET, ONE OF THE SMALLEST BUDGETS. WE HAVE, TOTAL PERSONNEL, IS THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THIS. AND, COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY CONSERVATIVE WITH THEIR SPENDING, OF COURSE, AND NEEDS. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE WHAT YOU WANT. SO WE HAVE SOME TRAVEL AND TRAINING THERE THAT, IS IN THE BUDGET. SLIGHT INCREASE OVER CURRENT YEAR JUST TO KIND OF KEEP PACE WITH COST, MEMBERSHIPS AND COMMUNICATION SERVICES. THE ADMIN SERVICES, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE CLERK BUDGET VILLAGE MANAGER HR FUNCTION IS
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HERE, AGAIN, THIS IS OVERWHELMINGLY A PERSONNEL SERVICES OPERATION, IN HERE WE DO WHAT WE CHARGE AND PAY FOR LEGAL ADVERTISEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED UNDER THE LAW AND OR OTHER MEANS. SOME OF THE SOFTWARE LICENSE FEES THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE USES TO RUN THESE MEETINGS, PCAB AND OTHER COMMUNICATION MODES, AND SOME BASIC TRAVEL AND TRAINING AND TRANSCRIPTION SERVICES FOR TRANSCRIBING THESE MEETING MEETINGS INTO MINUTES. OKAY, FINANCE MY DEPARTMENT AGAIN PREDOMINANTLY PERSONNEL DRIVEN, THE VILLAGE'S ANNUAL AUDIT. MOST OF THIS IS BORN HERE IN MY DEPARTMENT. WE DO COST SHARE SOME OF THIS WITH THE UTILITY FUND BECAUSE THERE'S A BIG COMPONENT OF THE AUDIT WITH THE UTILITY FUND. SO THEY PAY OTHER COSTS AS WELL, STARTING THIS YEAR AND NEXT, WE'RE BEGINNING TO PAY LICENSE FEES FOR TYLER TECHNOLOGIES FOR THE ERP SYSTEM THAT WE ARE, THAT WE ARE IMPLEMENTING THAT IS CURRENTLY, IN PROCESS OF, GOING LIVE IN OCTOBER, THOSE ARE OUR FUNDED PROCEEDS. AND, WE ALSO HAVE LIKE CERTAIN BANKING FEES AND CHARGES THAT ARE ALLOCATED INTO FINANCE, TRAVEL AND PER DIEM AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, I DO WANT TO DO MORE, NEXT YEAR AND BEYOND IS, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I'VE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES, I'LL MENTION AGAIN, WE HAVE A VERY, VERY SMALL STAFF AND IT'S NOT ONLY JUST FINANCES, THE VILLAGE IN GENERAL AND WE'VE HAD DIFFICULTY ATTRACTING CANDIDATES AND, GETTING THEM TO COME TO INDIANTOWN. WE DO HAVE SOME GREAT TALENT HERE. I'M VERY, VERY HAPPY. I HAVE TWO REALLY GREAT LOCAL CANDIDATES. IN MY SHOP AND AS DO OTHER DEPARTMENTS. BUT NONETHELESS, THE NEED IS STILL GREATER THAN THE SUPPLY, AND WE WILL ALWAYS DO WHAT WE CAN TO TRY TO FIND, CANDIDATES WITH THE RIGHT SKILL SET AND THE RIGHT ATTITUDE AND WANT TO JOIN OUR TEAM. BUT WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO HAVE A LOT OF DEPTH IN CERTAIN POSITIONS AND FUNCTIONS IS GOING TO BE LIMITED IN ALL REALITY, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START LOOKING MORE AND MORE AT DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS FOR THAT, THAT INCLUDES ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND WHAT WE ALSO CALL, ROBOTIC PROCESS AUTOMATION, WHICH IS BECOMING A GROWING, SPECIALTY IN THE IT INDUSTRY TO HELP WITH WORKFLOWS AND TO REALLY HELP SUPPORT STAFF TO ELIMINATE, REDUCE OR REDUCE OR ELIMINATE, I SHOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, REPETITIVE, REDUNDANT TASKS THAT KIND OF TAKE UP A LOT OF TIME, THAT ARE NOT VALUE ADDED. AND FRANKLY, TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO HAVE SUPPORT AND, BACKUP, IN CASE SOMEBODY IS NOT IN OR IN CASE YOU CAN'T FILL THAT ROLE, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO WITH THAT TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY. SO WE HAVE TO DO A LOT MORE OF THAT. THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT, I THINK, IN MY SHOP, AND OTHER AREAS BEYOND BEYOND JUST FINANCE. ALL RIGHT. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGAIN, THIS DEPARTMENT TOTAL FIVE POSITIONS IN THERE, ONE VACANCY, THE PROFESSIONAL PLANNING SERVICES, IT'S SLIGHT SLIGHT DECREASE. WE DID HAVE SLIGHTLY REDUCED, PERMITTING AND BUILDING ACTIVITY DURING FISCAL YEAR 24 THAN WE HAD PRIOR YEAR NEXT YEAR, PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT LATER WE'LL CHANGE THAT. BUT FOR THE TIME BEING, WE DID REDUCE THE BUDGET HERE VERY SLIGHTLY, SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE IN HERE, AGAIN, 275 K FOR PLANNING AND LEGAL SERVICES RELATED TO SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, WE HAVE, WE'RE CONTINUING WITH ANOTHER, MEMBERSHIP SPONSORSHIP OF THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD FOR 15 K THAT INCREASED THIS YEAR. WE DO HAVE SOME COSTS WITH A CONTRACTED BUILDING OFFICIAL, WHO DOES OUR INSPECTIONS, AND WE WILL SEE SOME OF THAT AGAIN NEXT YEAR. AND OUR OVERALL CODE ENFORCEMENT FUNCTION, WHICH IS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEPARTMENT. THOSE ARE THE BREAKOUT COSTS THAT WE HAVE, NESTED WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT, WITHIN THAT TOTAL BUDGET OF 795 K. OKAY. PARKS THE, AGAIN, THERE'S A TOTAL OF FOUR FTES IN THAT DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW, AGAIN, MOST OF THEIR COSTS ARE PRETTY STANDARD, TYPICAL, SOME CONTRACTED SERVICES OUT THERE FOR MAINTENANCE, TREE TRIMMING, CERTAIN PARK EVENTS, UTILITY SERVICES OUT THERE FOR LIGHTS, WATER, AND SOME REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE THAT THEY'RE DOING[01:20:01]
WITH IRRIGATION SYSTEMS, ELECTRIC SECURITY, ETC. THEY'VE DONE THEY DO A LOT OF WORK WITH OUR BUILDING FACILITIES AND MAINTENANCE. FRANKLY THAT'S KIND OF ANOTHER HAT THAT THEY WEAR.AND SOME OF THE COSTS THAT THEY INCUR ARE RELATED TO THAT. AND DEBORAH AND BRIAN DO A GREAT JOB WITH THAT, AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY HAVE FOR THE UPCOMING BUDGET INCLUDES 125 K FOR THE COMPLETION PHASE TWO OF THE SKATE PARK. AND THEY'RE TRYING TO ADD ABOUT 100 K IN HERE TO PRE FUND FOR ANOTHER PLAYGROUND REHABILITATION IN FISCAL YEAR 26. SO THEY THE COUNTY HAS A CONCEPT CALLED FIXED ASSET REPLACEMENT OR FARB. AND THAT'S WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING TO GO. IT'S GOING TO GET TRANSFERRED INTO A INTO ESSENTIALLY A SINKING FUND TO HAVE MONEY AVAILABLE FOR SUBSEQUENT REPAIRS. IF SOMETHING COMES UP THAT WAS UNANTICIPATED OR UNPLANNED, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO TAP INTO THAT. BUT WE KIND OF HAD SOME OF THAT. THIS YEAR WITH SOME CAMERAS AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE INSTALLED AROUND PARKS FACILITIES, BUT THAT'S THEIR PLAN. OKAY PUBLIC WORKS, TOTAL OF THREE AND A HALF POSITIONS IN THAT DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE THREE FOLKS WITHIN UTILITIES, MR. NOLAN IS DIRECTOR, IVAN IS SUPERVISOR.
AND MISS KATINA, AS, PUBLIC WORKS COORDINATOR. HALF OF THEIR TIME IS ALLOCATED FROM UTILITIES TO PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE THEY SERVE BOTH ROLES. AND THEN WE HAVE TWO. WE NOW HAVE TWO FULL TIME. PUBLIC WORKS TRAINEES IN THAT DEPARTMENT. AND SOME OF THE WORK THAT THEY'LL BE DOING NEXT YEAR, WILL INCLUDE ABOUT 270,000 FOR SOME ROAD REPAIRS AND STRIPING RAMPS. SIDEWALK REPAIRS. THERE WILL BE, A NEED TO DO A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING STUDY. AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS TOWARD THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION. FOR STORMWATER ASSESSMENT AND WE ARE ADDING A TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED GRANT MATCH, WHICH WE DID THIS YEAR FOR 12.5, 12.5 AND CAPITAL OUTLAY TRANSFERS FROM PUBLIC WORKS, TO OUR THREE BIG GENERAL GOVERNMENT CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT, TWO OF WHICH ONE OF WHICH IS STILL UNDERWAY. UPTOWN DRAINAGE, THE LINCOLN STREET WHICH IS GETTING STARTED, AND THE SEMINOLE AVENUE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IS STILL IN BID AWARD PHASE. BUT THAT'S THE TOTAL GOVERNMENTAL, FUND IMPACT. MOST OF THAT SEMINOLE AVENUE IMPROVEMENTS WORK SHOULD BE GRANT FUNDED. MOST OF IT. OKAY. THE UTILITY FUND, 3.15 MILLION.
AGAIN, INCLUDING THE TWO NEW TECHNICIAN TRAINEES, 11.5 POSITIONS, AGAIN, THAT'S A THAT'S AN OPERATION THAT'S GETTING BUSIER. AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WORK THAT'S HAPPENING OUT THERE WITH REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE. KEEPING THE SYSTEM OPERATIONAL. A LOT OF GOOD WORK BEING DONE. IMPROVING WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICE, TOTAL REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE.
ABOUT 413,000, THERE'S SOME ENGINEERING STUDIES THAT WILL NEED TO BE DONE. RELATED TO WATER AND SEWER. SPECIAL ASSESSMENT WORK AND WE DO RIGHT NOW HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT.
COUNSEL PROBABLY RECALLS WITH THE, RICO WORKS FOR A SECOND MACHINE AT THE WASTEWATER PLANT.
THE HOPE IS THAT WE DO HAVE SOME GRANT FUNDING FOR THAT TO PURCHASE IT OUTRIGHT. THAT HASN'T BEEN FULLY EXECUTED AT THIS POINT, BUT THAT IS THE TOTALITY OF, THE, THE RENTS AND LEASES FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 AND, AGAIN, DEBT SERVICE AND THE TRANSFER TO THE GENERAL FUND, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE FOR, CAPITAL REPAIRS AND EQUIPMENT, WE HAVE SOME TRUCKS THAT ARE NEEDED OUT THERE. A COUPLE OF, I THINK, F250, MAYBE AN F-350. I FORGET 150 K FOR THAT. AND, VERY SMALL BUDGET CONTINGENCY AT THIS TIME. SO COST GOING UP OUT THERE, THE NEEDS GOING UP OUT THERE. THEY DO HAVE VERY NARROW MARGIN IN THIS BUDGET. QUITE HONESTLY, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO I'M GOING TO BE WATCHING THIS ALONG WITH MR. NOLAN, VERY CAREFULLY, VERY CLOSELY GOING INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, BECAUSE, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DAYLIGHT BETWEEN WHAT WE THINK IS COMING IN AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING THIS COMING YEAR. THIS IS A PRETTY TIGHT BUDGET, AGAIN, IF WE GET THE BEAVER WORKS MACHINE PAID FOR, THAT WILL DEFINITELY FREE SOME THINGS UP. BUT WE DID HAVE A LOT OF UNFORESEEN AND UNANTICIPATED SITUATIONS COME UP THIS YEAR WITH SOME, WELL, REHABS AND OTHER EQUIPMENT GOING DOWN OUT THERE. SO THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE UTILITY BUSINESS. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME WHEN YOU HAVE AN OLD SYSTEM LIKE THIS ONE. SOMETIMES HAPPENS MORE FREQUENTLY THAN YOU'D LIKE. OKAY. THIS IS A, A GRID OF OUR TOTAL CIP PROJECTS THAT ARE KNOWN, AND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO STILL FUND, AGAIN,
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SEMINOLE AVENUE IS IN BID AWARD PHASE RIGHT NOW, I WOULD IMAGINE AN AWARD FOR THAT WILL BE COMING TO COUNCIL IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE. SOME THINGS ARE BEING WORKED OUT WITH THAT, LINCOLN STREET, RIGHT NOW IS AGAIN, I THINK, STILL IN PLANNING PHASE. THERE'S SOME I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION WITH THAT PROJECT ABOUT SOME DESIGN CHANGE REQUIREMENTS BY DDOT TO HAVE THAT PROJECT MEET SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS THAT WERE NOT ORIGINALLY PLANNED FOR. AND I KNOW THAT MR. NOLAN AND MR. JENSEN ARE, ADDRESSING THAT AND LOOKING INTO THAT SITUATION, BUT THAT PROJECT WOULD REALISTICALLY, AT THIS POINT, NOT BE STARTING UNTIL NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THE UPTOWN DRAINAGE DESIGN, WE SHOULD FINISH THAT NEXT YEAR, WE DID GET AN EXTENSION THROUGH, I THINK, JUNE OF 25 TO COMPLETE THAT DESIGN.BUT AGAIN, THAT IS A PROJECT. THE UPTOWN DRAINAGE IS NOT FUNDED, WE ANTICIPATE ABOUT 7 MILLION FOR THAT. AND THAT MAY OR MAY NOT INCLUDE UTILITY CONFLICTS AND RELOCATES, WHICH THAT ALWAYS HAPPENS WHEN YOU DO DRAINAGE PROJECTS, WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE, MOVING ROADS OR EXPANDING ROADS, CHANGING ROADS USUALLY AFFECTS WATER AND SEWER LINES. AND UTILITY FUND HAS TO PAY FOR THAT. AND THEREIN IS A CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I WOULD THINK THAT THE UTILITY FUND PROBABLY WOULD ENCOUNTER AT LEAST ANOTHER HALF MILLION OR MORE IN RELOCATE COSTS IN A PROJECT LIKE THAT. AND THAT'S, THAT RIGHT NOW IS NOT IN THE CARDS, PARK CIP AND, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT WE COULD PROBABLY TALK MORE ABOUT THIS IN DEPTH. I THINK I THINK DEBORAH'S DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB OUT THERE WITH, THE WORK THAT SHE'S DONE THIS YEAR WITH THE SKATE PARK AND PLANS FOR NEXT YEAR WITH FINALIZING THE, PHASE TWO OF THE SKATE PARK AND FUNDING FOR FUTURE PLAYGROUNDS. BUT AND AGAIN, THIS IS REALLY GOING TO BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNCIL, I THINK, TO REALLY DIVE INTO THAT MASTER PLAN. AND YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT NEED $6.2 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS RELATED TO PARKS FACILITIES IN THE VILLAGE, WE MAYBE WE DO THE PROBLEM WILL BE HOW DO WE PAY FOR IT, THERE'S SOME STUFF THAT I THINK IS PROBABLY. WE COULD AGREE. YEAH, WE NEED TO DO THAT. THERE'S CERTAIN FIELD UPGRADES AND CERTAIN EQUIPMENT THAT IS NEEDED, CERTAIN FACILITIES OUT THERE PROBABLY. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THEM. OTHER THINGS MAY INVOLVE EXPANSION OF FACILITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE MAYBE JUST NONSTARTERS BECAUSE OF FUNDING. AND SO THAT'LL HAVE TO BE FURTHER ADDRESSED DOWN THE ROAD, THE 12 INCH FIRE LOOP ALSO FOR WATER THAT SHOULD BE COMMENCING, I WOULD IMAGINE, IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE. I KNOW THERE'S SOME PRICE NEGOTIATIONS STILL ON THAT THAT IS STILL TECHNICALLY IN BID AWARD PHASE, THERE'S SOME COSTS WITH THAT. I DO HAVE IT RIGHT NOW ESTIMATED AT 3.2 MILLION, THAT IS PARTIALLY FUNDED BY ARPA MONEY, AND 1,000,001.5 MILLION CAME FROM THE COUNTY. SO THAT PROJECT THROUGH THE 3.2 IS FUNDED, THE SRF, IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE ARE STILL IN PHASE OF TRYING TO GET APPROVAL FOR THAT LOAN. WE DO NOT YET HAVE APPROVAL FOR THAT LOAN BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE, FISCAL STABILITY. AND, COMMITMENT TO MAINTAINING A RATE STRUCTURE THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH COST OF SERVICE, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE, AGAIN, A HUGE STEP TONIGHT.
THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE IN FRONT OF IT OF, YOU KNOW, ADOPTING THAT RESOLUTION FOR THOSE RATE CHANGES, THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT. THEY WANT TO KNOW YOU KNOW, ARE YOU ALL WILLING TO MAKE THE COMMITMENT TO DO THESE IMPROVEMENTS AND TO PAY THAT LOAN BACK WITH PART OF THAT LOAN? USUALLY THE WAY THESE SRF LOANS HAVE WORKED IS THEY ARE CONSTRUCTION LOANS ARE TWO THIRDS FORGIVEN, ONE THIRD GOES TO REPAYMENT STATUS, DEBT SERVICE IF YOU WILL. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO KNOW WHEN THESE PROJECTS CLOSE AND IT'S TIME FOR REPAYMENT OF THAT ONE THIRD. WILL YOU HAVE THE FUNDING TO MAINTAIN YOUR OPERATIONS, KEEP YOUR EQUIPMENT IN GOOD CONDITION, HAVE A SCHEDULE OF REPLACEMENT, OUTLINED AND BE ABLE TO PAY THE DEBT BACK. SO WE'RE STILL WE'RE VERY CLOSE, BUT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO DEVELOP THAT PLAN. AND OF COURSE, THE SEWER IMPROVEMENTS, 38 MILLION THAT IS ALL FUNDED. AND THAT IS REALLY STARTING TO TAKE OFF NOW. AND THE NEW REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER PLANT IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE I
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THINK I THINK THE VILLAGE MANAGER WILL HAVE TO CONFIRM. I THINK WE HAVE 20 OR 23 MILLION THAT SO FAR IN GRANTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMMITTED. BUT AGAIN, A $60 MILLION PROJECT. SO WE STILL HAVE WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FUNDING, WE'RE CASH FUNDING OUT OF THE UTILITY, WHICH IS PART OF THE WHY PART OF THE REASON WHY THINGS ARE VERY TIGHT OVER THERE. SOME OF THE PERMITTING COSTS TO PERMIT THE FLORIDAN WELLS AND TO DO SOME OF THE INITIAL WORK WITH THAT, WE ARE WE'RE PAYING FOR IT OUT OF, YOU KNOW, CURRENT, CURRENT BUDGET, BUT BEFORE LONG WE WON'T BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THESE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE, WE DID EXECUTE ALSO, I THINK THE, RURAL INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT FOR 300 K THAT'S ON ON THE BOARD UP THERE AND THAT THAT'S NOW, OFFICIAL. BUT WE HAVE TO GET A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD WITH THAT FOR THAT WORK TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT. THAT THAT INVOLVES GEOTECHNICAL WORK AND DESIGN OF RAW WATER MAINS AND, YOU KNOW, STUFF THAT'S A LITTLE MORE, MORE FURTHER ADVANCED IN THE SCHEDULE THAN WHERE WE ARE AT THIS AT THIS POINT. AND THE BIG WATER MAINS HERE THAT WE HAVE, RAILROAD AVENUE AND 151ST STREET, THE I KNOW THE 3 MILLION GRANT IS THE ONE THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WHEN WE DID OUR GRANTS. UPDATE THAT 700. THAT'S A COST MATCH. WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A 750 K COST MATCH TO HAVE THAT GRANT, THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS WE DON'T HAVE THE 750 K. WE'RE STILL LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND OTHER ANOTHER GRANT OR GRANTS THAT WOULD MAKE UP THAT 750 K. BUT THAT'S AT THIS POINT IN TIME HAS NOT BEEN HAD. AND LAST LINE THERE, WATER AND SEWER RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT. THAT'S, THAT IS A STANDARD FEATURE THERE OF EVERY UTILITY TO BE ABLE TO SOCK MONEY AWAY INTO A SINKING FUND TO, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY IT'S A RAINY DAY FUND. YOU KNOW, THAT WHEN EQUIPMENT GOES DOWN, YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES. IT'S LIKE IT'S LIKE IT'S BASICALLY FARB. YOU KNOW, FARB IS THE WAY THAT AGAIN, THE COUNTY DOES A FIXED ASSET REPLACEMENT. THAT'S WHAT AN R&R FUND. IT'S THE SAME, SAME CONCEPT. YOU'RE PUTTING MONEY INTO A SINKING FUND AND YOU HAVE THOSE PROCEEDS AVAILABLE TO YOU WHEN YOU NEED TO START DOING CERTAIN REPLACEMENTS. AND IT'S USUALLY TIED TO, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT, CLASS LIFE AND EXPECTED USEFUL LIFE. SO THAT WAY YOU'RE MATCHING YOUR YOUR INFLOWS AND OUTFLOWS. SO BASED ON MY BEST ESTIMATE HERE AGAIN 140.46 MILLION OF TOTAL PROJECTS, ROUGHLY 78 MILLION OF THAT. WE HAVE EITHER ALL OR PARTIAL FUNDING, 61 MILLION IS NOT FUNDED, AND A LOT OF THAT IS TIED TO THE NEW RO PLANT. OKAY SO I WANT TO GO BACK TO THIS SLIDE HERE, WHICH WE ROLLED THIS OUT ON JULY 25TH. AND THIS KIND OF TIES BACK TO THE VILLAGE MANAGER'S COMMENTS ON HER INITIAL PRESENTATION AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, HAS TO DEAL WITH TAXES AND TAX RATES AND, THE OVERALL, DISBURSEMENT OF TAXABLE VALUE ACROSS THE VILLAGE. WE KNOW THAT 86% OF THE TAX BASE TAXABLE VALUE IN THE VILLAGE IS TPP. WE KNOW THAT MOST OF THAT COMES FROM FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT. WE KNOW THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT FOR VALUATION. AND THE VILLAGE IS VERY, VERY SMALL. WE LOOKED AT OTHER SLIDES ON JULY 25TH AND WE HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMPARABLES. WE LOOKED AT MUNICIPALITIES IN IN MARTIN COUNTY. WE LOOKED AT OTHER READY COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE. WE LOOKED AT, JUST RECALLING, YOU KNOW, LAKE WALES, PAHOKEE, I THINK CLEWISTON. SOME OTHER SEVERAL OTHERS WE HAD UP THERE AND NOBODY HAS THE THAT DISPARITY IN RESIDENTIAL TAX BASE VERSUS VERSUS, OTHER TANGIBLE OR COMMERCIAL LIKE WE DO. IT'S AGAIN, ALMOST 70% OF THE PARCELS IN THE VILLAGE ARE RESIDENTIAL. RESIDENTIAL CONTRIBUTES 5.3% OF THE TAX BIL. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A RECIPE WHERE ESSENTIALLY THIS SLIDE HERE TO ME WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT PRESENTATION, WHICH WAS, YOU KNOW, RAISING TAXES AND MILLAGE RATES IS IMPORTANT. AND YOU DO HAVE TO KIND OF TRUE THINGS UP FROM TIME TO TIME. BUT BASED ON WHAT YOU SEE THERE, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE OUR MODEL. RAISING MILLAGE RATES EVERY YEAR OR DOING THIS ON A CONSISTENT YEAR IN, YEAR OUT BASIS. THE DISPARITY THERE IS OBVIOUS AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE IT THAT WAY. YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A SINGLE REVENUE SOURCE SOLUTION FOR THE VILLAGE. WE CAN'T DO IT FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, NUMBER ONE, THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE PAYING THAT TAX BILL WOULD NOT BE TOO HAPPY AND IN ALL LIKELIHOOD WOULD MAKE SOME DRASTIC CHANGES IN THEIR INVENTORY, WHICH WOULD THEN HAVE A VERY, VERY, BAD[01:35:05]
EFFECT ON THE VILLAGE. SO FINISHING UP HERE ON THIS SLIDE HERE AGAIN, THESE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE 25TH AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE I'M JUST BRINGING IT UP HERE TO KIND OF TEE IT UP FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCIL THAT THERE ARE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT MAY BE ON THE HORIZON, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A HALF CENT TAX REFERENDUM THAT WILL BE ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER. AND, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A GREAT THING FOR THE VILLAGE IF THAT IF THAT PASSES, WE WOULD STAND TO GAIN SOME RESOURCES FROM THAT WHICH WE WOULD ALLOCATE FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE VILLAGE DESPERATELY NEEDS, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FUND OURSELVES AND THROUGH OTHER MEANS, BUT IF IT'S NOT APPROVED, THEN WHERE DO WE TURN? WHERE DO WE GO? WHAT DO WE DO? YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE AND HOW AND WHY. WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF SPECIAL ASSESSMENT. AND, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS ARE DONE TO TRY TO TIE DIRECTLY TIE IMPACTS TO FEES AND CHARGES. IT'S IT IS MORE AKIN TO A RATE STUDY THAT WE DO IN THE WATER AND SEWER SIDE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ON THE WATER AND SEWER SIDE, WE HAVE DIFFERENT CUSTOMER CLASSES AND DIFFERENT BASES, COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL AND OTHER SYSTEMS. YOU HAVE INDUSTRIAL, MULTIFAMILY AS A SUBSET IN RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALLOCATING THOSE COSTS AND TRYING TO TIE COSTS AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE TO THOSE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, CUSTOMER CLASSES WITHIN THE SYSTEM. AND A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT KIND OF DOES THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THESE PURPOSES, IT DEALS WITH REALLY, I GUESS, WHAT, WHATEVER THE COST THAT THE VILLAGE WANTS TO TRY TO RECOVER, I THINK THE THINGS THAT WE BROUGHT OUT THAT ARE OBVIOUS, JUST BASED ON THE CIP SCHEDULE ARE, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM, PARTICULARLY DISTRIBUTION AND COLLECTION SYSTEMS, MEANING, YOU KNOW, WATER MAINS, TRANSMISSION MAINS, SEWER LINES, LIFT STATIONS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND DRAINAGE SYSTEMS, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE, CULVERTS, ROADWAYS, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, THAT'S ALL. THAT'S ALL A COMPONENT OF SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS. SO AGAIN, I DID ALLUDE EARLY IN THE BUDGET ABOUT THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN HERE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FUND FOR A STUDY TO BE DONE. AND THAT'S AT THIS POINT, CERTAINLY WHAT WE'RE WANTING AND ASKING THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE NOT ONLY THE BUDGET, BUT TO SUPPORT THAT STUDY, TO GET THOSE FINDINGS. SO WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT A LITTLE LATER. THIS YEAR. BUT, AGAIN, WE'RE IN A LITTLE BIT OF A PREDICAMENT HERE WITH THE WAY THAT THE TAX STRUCTURE AND TAXABLE BASE WORKS AND THE WAY FORWARD IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THE WELL, TO PAY FOR ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT, WE, WE WOULD POSSIBLY NORMALLY ADDRESS THROUGH AD VALOREM INCREASES BECAUSE THE, THE ALLOCATION THERE IS NOT IS NOT UNIFORM. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT. SO AND I'VE BEEN TALKING FOR A WHILE, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS. MAYBE 20 MINUTES AGO PEOPLE HAD QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW, BUT, YEAH, I CAN ANSWER ANYTHING THAT HOPEFULLY YOU MAY HAVE NO, COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SO I HAVE A QUESTION, GIVE ME A MINUTE. SO WE'RE IN THE BUDGET. I KNOW IT'S ALL INCORPORATED. YOU PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER AND THE FIREWORKS BECAUSE HOW MUCH DOES THAT COST THE VILLAGE, YES. THAT THAT WAS. I THINK IT WAS 26 OR 27. I FORGOT TO PUT THAT IN THE SLIDE. WE HAVE THAT IN THE 26,000. YEAH PER YEAR. WE'VE DONE IT TWICE.YES. OKAY SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OVER $50,000 THAT WE'VE SPENT ON FIREWORKS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. YES. OKAY. AND THEN, I ALSO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.
SOMETHING HERE. YOUR VILLAGE HALL DEBT SERVICES, THAT 203,000. SO WHAT'S THAT, IS THAT FOR THIS BUILDING? IT'S FOR THIS BUILDING? YES. OKAY. DO WE OWE ANYTHING ON THAT LOT RIGHT NEXT TO RYAN? NO. OKAY, SO THAT'S DEBT FREE RIGHT THERE. CORRECT AND CORRECT. WE PUT IT UP FOR SALE. CORRECT YES. DID WE GET ANY BIDS? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY, I THINK THE ASKING PRICE IS 3.2 MIL. I MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S BEEN SOME. I DID RECALL WE GOT ONE, BUT IT DIDN'T. OKAY.
YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A FORMAL BID OR IF IT WAS A AN INQUIRY, SO WHAT'S THE LISTING
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PRICE? I BELIEVE 3.2 MILLION IS THE IS THE LISTING PRICE. YEAH. SO IF THE PROPERTY SELLS THAT MONEY WOULD BE USED FOR. YEAH WELL, ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE BASICALLY. OR WHAT WOULD THAT GO. YEAH. I MEAN THAT THE, THE PROCEEDS FROM THAT LAND, THAT LAND WAS PAID FOR AT A GENERAL GOVERNMENT PROCEEDS. SO, I MEAN, I THINK WE WOULD, WE WOULD, WE WOULD TAKE THAT MONEY.I THINK IT WOULD BE CERTAINLY A DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCIL ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD RETIRE THE NOTE ON THIS BUILDING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE CAN'T DO IT BEFORE THE CALL DATE. THE CALL DATE IS NOT UNTIL DECEMBER OF 25, FIVE. I THINK IT IS. SO IT'S A TWO YEAR MINIMUM MINIMUM HOLDING PERIOD FOR THAT NOTE. SO WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT WITHOUT A DOUBT, I DON'T KNOW IF, LEGALLY OR NOT, MR. VOTES COULD, BUT GOOD PRACTICE. WE WOULD BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION, MAKE THAT AS A, PROBABLY A REQUEST TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THAT NOTE. AND THEN THOSE PROCEEDS WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR SOME OTHER GENERAL GOVERNMENT PURPOSE THAT, AGAIN, LIKELY THE COUNCIL WOULD MAKE A DECISION ON HOW THEY WOULD LIKE THOSE PROCEEDS ALLOCATED. SO THAT PROPERTY IS AN ASSET. CURRENTLY, IT'S NOT A DEBT. IT IS ON THE BOOKS AT 1.45 MILLION.
THAT'S WHAT WE PAID FOR IT. THAT'S WHAT WE PAID FOR 1.4545. WE GOT $50,000 REDUCED BECAUSE IT WAS 1.5. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN IF THAT GETS SOLD THAT COMES TO THE VILLAGE. SO LIKE TECHNICALLY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TALKING TO A LOT OF RESIDENTS, THERE WAS MISINFORMATION OUT THERE THAT THE VILLAGE WAS BROKE, SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT'S AN ASSET. AND SO WHEN WE SELL THAT, IT IS THAT THE REVENUE COMES BACK TO THE VILLAGE. YES. OKAY.
YES. AND THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TPP FUND THAT IS A REBATE TO FPNL, CORRECT? YES, COUNCILWOMAN. AND THAT THAT IS GIVEN EVERY YEAR. YES. SO IF WE INCREASE THE TAXES, THE TPP WILL INCREASE THAT. YES. BUT THEIR TAXES WILL INCREASE FOR THE PAYMENT. THERE'S AN ALLOCATION THERE. SO THE MILLAGE APPLIES TO ALL AD VALOREM PROPERTY, THEIR AGREEMENT IS, WE WILL REBATE 55% OF THE VALUE OF, OF A SPECIFICALLY LISTED PARCEL ID, THE, THE MOST RECENT, AMENDMENT TO THE TPP AGREEMENT ADDED A SECOND PARCEL, WHICH AS OF, DECEMBER 31ST, 23, THERE WAS NOTHING ON THAT PROPERTY. SO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER HAD NO ASSESSED VALUE. SO THAT PARCEL WAS NOT A FACTOR IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE. BUT IT'S POSSIBLE BY DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR, THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL TPP ON THAT PARCEL, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE TWO PARCELS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT, BOTH OF WHICH WOULD BE SUBJECT TO A 55% REBATE. OKAY. AND THEN I DID SEE INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUES. YEAH IT INCREASED. YEAH. BETWEEN THIS FISCAL YEAR AND THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR OF NEXT YEAR OF 855,000. CAN YOU RESPOND? A LOT OF THAT IS GRANT REIMBURSEMENTS.
MOST OF THAT IS GRANT REIMBURSEMENTS. THE OTHER, NON GRANT RELATED, COMPONENT OF THAT LINE IS, SALES TAX. THAT'S, THAT'S CLASSIFIED BY DIOR AS INTERGOVERNMENTAL. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. WE GET WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT $1 MILLION OF SALES TAX RECEIPTS. AND THEN ALSO IF, CAN YOU VERIFY IF THE APARTMENTS IN BUENA PARK, THOSE NEW APARTMENTS, HAVE THOSE GOTTEN ON OUR TAX ROLL? YEAH. BECAUSE THOSE ARE I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. THEY ARE ON THE ROLL OKAY.
THE NEW APARTMENTS OKAY OKAY OKAY. SO THOSE ARE OUR PROPOSED FOR THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T FOR LAST YEAR, THEY IF THEY WERE, I GUESS, CODE. AND, BY DECEMBER OF 2023, THEN THEY'RE IN THERE. THEY ARE PART OF THE VALUATION IN THIS BUDGET THEN. YES, I CAN LOOK THEM UP TO MAKE SURE I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE DATE ON THAT PROPERTY, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I DON'T. YEAH. BECAUSE IT CURRENTLY I THINK THEY STARTED THEY STARTED RENTING THOSE EARLIER IN THE YEAR. PROBABLY PEOPLE IN BURBANK MIGHT BE ABLE TO TELL, YOU KNOW IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY DATE. I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT, IF IT WAS A DECEMBER DATE, THEN IT'S IN. IF IT WAS A JANUARY DATE, THEN IT'S NEXT YEAR OKAY. AND SO, SO WE DO. OH I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO OFFER THIS, THIS BUILDING. YES WE DO. WE, W, WE HAVE, WE HAVE AN OUTSTANDING DEBT ON THIS BUILDING. YES OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY VICE MAYOR PEREZ, YOU KNOW, I HAD A
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QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT FIELD REPAIRS. I SEE THAT THE BUDGET I OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED MONEY TO FIX IT. SURE. YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE POSSIBILITY? JUST EVEN UPGRADING THE MAIN FIELD, YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW, I THINK DEBORAH WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK TO IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT COST IS, YOU KNOW, SHE DOES MAINTENANCE OUT THERE ALL THE TIME, SHE HAS DIFFERENT TREATMENTS AND PEST CONTROL. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS, I DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT OF UPGRADE YOU'RE REFERRING TO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ENTAILS. SHE HAS SOME, IN HER, IN HER LIST, IN HER CIP PLAN. SHE HAS SOME, YOU KNOW, EXPENSIVE UPGRADES. IN THE, IN THE UNFUNDED CIP THAT ARE INTO THE SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK SOME THINGS TO MAKE THAT TYPE OF STUFF HAPPEN, BUT THAT'S NOT IN THE CARDS AT THIS TIME, BASED ON HOW THE BUDGET WAS PUT TOGETHER, WHAT SHE'S WHAT SHE ASKED FOR IS WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET, SHE'S GOT, YOU KNOW, COMPLETION OF THE SKATE PARK AND THEN ADVANCED FUNDING FOR ANOTHER PLAYGROUND REHAB UPGRADE. THE YEAR AFTER, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IS EVEN POSSIBLE, AS FAR AS ABILITY TO COORDINATE CONTRACTORS, THAT'S AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE IS GETTING CONTRACTORS TO COME OUT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SPECIALIZATION OF WORK IS, BUT SHE WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS TO FIGURE OUT OR, YOU KNOW, SPEAK TO WHAT THAT COST IS TO UPGRADE THE FIELDS TO THE CONDITION THAT YOU'RE A LOT MORE FAMILIAR WITH THAN ME. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE PARENTS, YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS GOING OUT THERE AND LIKE, YEAH, WHAT WHAT IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT I CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WE I, I'M NOT A SUPERVISOR. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO UP TO, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN THE FIELDS, BUT WHAT I CAN SEE IS, IS WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE PARENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, LIKE, WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT'S GOING ON? SURE SURE. THANK YOU. WELL, TO KIND OF BUILD ON THAT, IF THERE'S NOT SPECIFICALLY STATED IN THERE, ANY UPGRADES THERE IS ONGOING MAINTENANCE, ONGOING MAINTENANC? YES, 100%. YES. A PART OF THAT. YES OKAY. THAT'S WHERE THEY'VE BEEN REALLY ALL THIS TIME. I MEAN, I THINK WITH THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE DOING SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, INDIAN, INDIAN MOUND PARK, AGAIN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING THE, THE SKATE PARK, BUT AS FAR AS LIKE WHOLESALE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND UPGRADES OF PLAYING SURFACES AND FIELDS, THEY HAVE NOT THEY HAVE NOT APPROACHED THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME. OKAY, AND TO KIND OF TO BUILD ON SOME OF THESE OTHER QUESTIONS, REVENUE, IF WE WERE TO SELL THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT IS AN ASSET TALKING ABOUT HAVE OPTIONS IN WHAT TO HOW TO HANDLE THOSE FUNDS. AN OPTION WOULD BE ALSO TO USE IT AS A MATCHING. SO SOME OF THESE GRANTS THAT THAT WE HAVE REQUIRE. YEAH. RIGHT. A MATCHING PORTION. SO THAT COULD BE USED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT CERTAINLY COULD. I BELIEVE THE VILLAGE MANAGER EVEN MENTIONED THAT LAST, LAST BUDGET YEAR, THAT THAT'S LIKELY A RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD BE MADE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD THE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF THAT, THAT WE WOULD USE IT FOR GRANT MATCH, EITHER PARTIALLY OR ENTIRELY. WITHOUT A DOUBT, THOUGH, THAT WOULD BE ON THE TABLE, FRONT AND CENTER. IT'S A POSSIBILITY. YES, MA'AM. YES. SO, YOU'VE MENTIONED ARPA FUNDS? YES, A COUPLE OF TIMES. YEAH WHERE ARE WE WITH THOSE? THOSE HAVE TO BE SPENT BY WHAT DATE? DECEMBER OF 26. OKAY, BUT WE WILL WE WILL EXCEED THAT, WE HAVE REALLY, TWO MAJOR PROJECTS LEFT WITH ARPA, WE HAVE, 1.52 MILLION COMMITTED FOR THE 12 INCH WATER MAIN, AND THEN WE HAVE TO WE HAVE THE, THE TYLER TECH SOFTWARE, SAAS FEES, WHICH WHICH WAS COMMITTED WITH THAT. THAT WILL SPEAK FOR THE BALANCE OF THOSE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE LEF, WHICH IS ABOUT 11819. I'M JUST STARTING TO PAY SOME OF THESE INVOICES NOW FOR THE SAAS FEES. THAT'S SOFTWARE AS A SERVICE FEES, MAINTENANCE FEES FOR THE TYLER TECH STUFF. WE WILL PAY THAT THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR AND FINISH THAT, PROBABLY NEXT YEAR.AND THEN THE WATER LOOP I WOULD ANTICIPATE WOULD BE DONE PROBABLY SOMETIME BEFORE THE END OF NEXT CALENDAR YEAR. SO I THINK THAT MONEY WILL BE DEFINITELY GONE BY SOMETIME IN 2025. OKAY. 2026. RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. BUT WELL BEFORE DECEMBER OF 26. SO WE'LL THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO RETURN. NO, MA'AM. 100%. NO OKAY. NO, NO NO OKAY. I WASN'T TOO SURE WHO WHO WAS FIRST COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER. OKAY. I JUST GOT A FEW QUESTIONS, WELL, JUST. WELL, FINDING GRANTS NOW WE HAVE A GRANT DEPARTMENT THAT GO OUT AND FIND GRANTS FOR US, WE HAVE, WE
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HAVE A CONSULTANT RIGHT NOW, THAT IS APPLYING FOR GRANTS FOR US. WHO IS GOING OUT THERE RESEARCHING AND APPLYING? SHE'S DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB. AND OUR LOBBYIST FIRM ALSO BRINGS A LOT OF, OPPORTUNITIES FORWARD WITH US. SO THEY KIND OF WORK HAND IN HAND. I DON'T HAVE A GRANT MANAGER. I DON'T HAVE A GRANT PERSON DOING THAT RIGHT NOW, AND FRANKLY, SOME OF US, WORK PART TIME AS GRANTS PEOPLE BECAUSE I DO A LOT OF GRANTS COMPLIANCE. I HAVEN'T REALLY APPLIED FOR GRANTS PER SE, BUT I DO A LOT OF GRANTS COMPLIANCE WORK. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE TAKEN ON.BUT THE REASON WHY I ASK THAT, BECAUSE WHEN WE WENT TO THE, FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES, THERE WAS A YOUNG MAN THERE, ANGELINA STEPPED OUT, BUT SHE, SHE WE MET THIS GUY, AND, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. THEY HELP SMALL CITIES. YEAH YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, I, I'M TALKING ABOUT, NOT PARTICULARLY. I KNOW THAT OUR, OUR CONSULTANT, YOU KNOW, IS IN DISCUSSION WITH, I THINK, FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND LEAGUE OF CITIES AND SPEAKS EXTENSIVELY WITH OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES AND OFFICIALS. YOU KNOW, REPRESENTATIVE HARRELL AND SNYDER AND, CONGRESSMAN MAST OFFICE, WHICH IS HOW THE THREE WE GOT THE $3 MILLION AWARD THAT WE JUST HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE COST MATCH. THAT'S THAT'S THE RUB ON THAT. BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, RESEARCH AND INQUIRY AND APPLICATIONS GOING OUT. AND STAFF TO MIKE, I MEAN, THROUGH THEIR ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY BELONG TO, THEY'LL GET EMAILS ABOUT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. AND SO WE WILL FOLLOW UP. I'LL PUSH THOSE OFF TO OUR GRANT PERSON AND, AND, EVEN THE, THEY'LL, THEY'LL APPLY FOR THEIR OWN IF THEY CAN. THEY'RE NOT TOO COMPLICATED. RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH, THE OTHER THING WAS ABOUT THE FIREWORKS, SO WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR TWO YEARS. YES. OKAY.
AND WOULD THAT DOES THAT FALL UNDER SPECIAL EVENTS, WE HAVE IT IN THE LINE AT PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITIES FOR THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT. SO I DIDN'T I FOR SOME REASON, DIDN'T THINK OF IT WHEN I PUT THE SLIDE TOGETHER. BUT WE DO HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET. IT'S THE SAME AS LAST YEAR. I PUT I THINK I INCREASED IT TO 30 BECAUSE IT WAS THE 27 AND CHANGE WAS A TOTAL TOTAL BILL. OKAY. SO LET ME ASK THIS. WHAT OTHER ACTIVITIES DO WE HAVE OUTSIDE OF THE FIREWORKS THAT THAT COULD BE FUNDED? OR HAVE WE FUNDED, WELL, THE OTHER THINGS THAT I SPOKE TO WAS MEMBERSHIP WITH THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD. I MEAN, THAT JUST, AS A PIECE OF BACKGROUND, IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, I THINK THE MAYOR OR THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL CORRECT ME, BUT I THINK IT WAS BELIEVED, STATED THAT THE FIREWORKS WAS A, WAS A, YOU KNOW, PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITY FOR THE VILLAGE, BUT A FORM OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IF YOU WILL, TO TRY TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE VILLAGE AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE US A BIT KNOWN, YOU KNOW, AMONGST RESIDENTS LOCALLY AND NEAR AND FAR AWAY.
SO IN THE SAME FRAME FRAMEWORK HERE, THE FIREWORKS, THE MEMBERSHIP WITH THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BOARD, THOSE ARE THE THAT'S REALLY THE OTHER COMPONENT IN THE BUDGET THAT I WOULD SAY, KIND OF LEANED TOWARD OUR EFFORTS TO PROMOTE AND BRING BUSINESS TO THE VILLAGE, THOUGH.
DOES THAT, DO WE LOOK FOR SPONSORS FOR THAT? THE FIREWORKS, THIS IS AN ARRANGEMENT AT THIS TIME THAT I THINK IS REALLY BETWEEN US AND THE INDIAN TOWN CHAMBER, AND THE INDIAN TOWN CHAMBER DOES BEAR COSTS RELATED TO THAT. THEY CERTAINLY GET SPONSORS. WE HAVE NOT, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, APPROACHED ANYONE TO SPONSOR OUR SHARE, THAT IT'S JUST BEEN VIEWED AS A COST TO THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT. SO, WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT, THAT I KNOW OF. NO. ALL RIGHT. MY LAST QUESTION IS, I KNOW, COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ, TALKED ABOUT THE LOT BY RISE THREE, WHERE WE'RE ASKING 3.2 MILLION. THAT'S. YES. MY UNDERSTANDING. YES. AND I BELIEVE, THE MAYOR ALSO SAID THAT, THAT MONEY BECAUSE WE, WE PAID, WHAT, 1.45. THAT'S CORRECT. EXACTLY. RIGHT.
YEAH. YES WITH A 50, 50,000 OFF BECAUSE I CALLED THE OWNER. OKAY, OKAY. SO NOW IT WAS SAID THAT THE VILLAGE ISN'T BROKE. NO. WE HAVE MONEY. OKAY. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THAT IMPRESSION THAT WE WERE SHORT ON REVENUE. WELL THE UTILITY FUND, YOU HEARD MR. FLORIO DISCUSS. IT'S A TIGHT, BUT IT'S BECAUSE IT'S COMPLETELY REVENUES COMING
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IN. MANAGED, IF YOU WILL. SO ALL THE REVENUES COMING IN FROM WATER AND WASTEWATER ARE USED FOR THE EXPENDITURES. AND MR. NOLAN HAS SOME LARGE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT NEED TO GET DONE.SO IT IS PROBABLY YOUR TIGHTEST FUND. BUT WE WOULD NOT LET IT GO NEGATIVE WITHOUT BRINGING IT TO THE COUNCIL AND EITHER FLOATING MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND OR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT. OKAY ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT, THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. YES, MA'A.
COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SO, ARPA FUNDS FOR THE MIC. I DID SEE ON HERE THAT WE HAD IT LISTED FOR. IT WAS SHARED ARPA AND MARTIN COUNTY 3.2. THAT'S CORRECT. YES.
HOW MUCH OF IT WAS COMING FROM MARTIN COUNTY? 1.5. SO THAT 1.5 WAS GIVEN TO US BECAUSE WE NEGOTIATED WHAT IT WAS THE CONTRACT WITH, MARTIN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE. THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS, IN ORDER TO HELP THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT HAVE BETTER COVERAGE AND PROVIDE BETTER SERVICE, WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING TO ADDRESS THE WATER PRESSURE. YOUR FIRE FLOW. AND SO, THE AN AGREEMENT WAS ENTERED INTO BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE VILLAGE THAT THE COUNTY WOULD CONTRIBUTE 1.5 MILLION IN, IN EXCHANGE FOR THE VILLAGE TO STAY IN THE FIRE RESCUE MSU SYSTEM FOR FOUR YEARS, AND THEN IT AUTOMATICALLY RENEWS EVERY YEAR UNTIL ONE OF THE PARTIES DO AWAY WITH IT. THAT WAS SOMETHING WHEN I FIRST STARTED. WITHIN THE FIRST WEEK, I WAS HERE, THOSE FUNDS HAD NOT BEEN ASKED FOR AND I ASKED FOR THEM AND WE GOT THEM WITHIN TWO WEEKS. SO WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE FUNDS. WE DO. YES. OKAY. AND WHEN SHOULD THAT PROJECT START, IT'S BEEN BID.
THEY'RE THEY'RE A BID TABULATION IS OUT THERE AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS, MR. NOLAN REALLY? AND MR. JENSEN ARE REVIEWING THE BID RESPONSE TO ATTEMPT TO MAKE SOME COST SAVINGS WITH THAT PROJECT. I BELIEVE THE, THE PROJECT CAME IN SLIGHTLY ON THE AT LEAST FOR THE WATER SIDE, THAT THE PART THAT'S FUNDED IS SLIGHTLY OVER BUDGET, FOR THE WATER COST. THAT WAS A PROJECT THAT ACTUALLY JUST JUST TO FULLY EXPLAIN INCLUDED MORE THAN JUST A WATER LOOP. IT INCLUDED A SEWER MAIN AS WELL, SEWER FORCE MAIN AS WELL, SO THERE WAS THEY AGAIN FOR GOOD REASON. IT MADE SENSE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A NEED FOR SEWER SERVICE OVER THERE AS WELL.
CONTRACTOR CAN BUILD BOTH, WE'RE GOING TO USE THE DEP MONEY THAT WE HAVE FOR THE SEWER PORTION, BUT THE WATER LOOP IS THE PART THAT WE'RE WE'RE A TAD OVER BUDGET RIGHT NOW. AND THERE'S SOME COSTS THAT ARE TRYING TO BE TRIMMED ON THAT TO, TO GET THAT TO, TO THE FINISH LINE AND GET IT, GET IT, COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND GET IT AWARDED. OKAY. SO JUST TO MAKE SURE I GET THIS ON THE RECORD, WE GOT THE 1.2 OR WHAT WAS IT 1.115 FROM THE COUNTY 155 COUNTY. AND WE HAVE OUR FUNDS WITH THEM FOR FIRE RESCUE. YEAH THAT WAS A YEAH. YES. OKAY. AND THEN, I KNOW LIKE A LOT OF RESIDENTS WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH IS SPENT PER PARK. SO LIKE ALL THE PARKS THAT WE MAINTAIN BECAUSE TIMERS IS A REGIONAL SO WE DON'T MAINTAIN THAT. BUT RESIDENTS WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS SPENT AT BIG MOUND, WHAT IS SPENT AT POST-FAMILY PARK AND WHAT IS SPENT AT BOCA PARK. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT, WE DEBORAH SPENT TIME DURING THIS BUDGET CYCLE TO ALLOCATE CERTAIN COSTS BETWEEN THE PARKS BECAUSE, I THINK WHEN WE FINALIZED THIS BUDGET IN THE, IN THE GENERAL LEDGER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME DIFFERENT BUDGET CODING FOR THE INDIVIDUAL PARKS SO THAT WE CAN PUT IT IN THAT WAY, AGAIN, YOU HAVE SHARED COSTS RIGHT NOW, THE OVERWHELMING BIGGEST COST IS PERSONNEL, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE PERSONNEL PER SE TO INDIVIDUAL PARKS, BUT CERTAINLY THE MAINTENANCE COSTS AND IMPROVEMENTS AND REPAIRS, THOSE COSTS CAN BE IDENTIFIED AND ALLOCATED PER PARK WITHOUT QUESTION. YEAH. WELL PERSONNEL COSTS I DEFINITELY KNOW CAN'T BE ALLOCATED TO THAT. BUT KNOWING ME AS BOOKKEEPING, I KNOW THAT YOU CAN ALLOCATE DIFFERENT CODES TO DIFFERENT SECTIONS SO YOU CAN DO IT TO LIKE BOOK A PARK TO POST-FAMILY PARK. SO I KNOW THAT CAN BE DONE RIGHT. YEAH. BECAUSE IF OUR SYSTEM DOES OUR SYSTEM ALLOW YOU TO THE TILER SYSTEM, THE NEW SYSTEM WILL ALLOW US TO DO THAT. SO THAT CAN BE DONE FOR THE INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC BECAUSE LIKE THIS I APPRECIATE THE, THE SLIDESHOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF I WOULD BE A RESIDENT AND FUTURE, I WILL BE SITTING THERE, YOU KNOW, STARING AT A SMALL SCREEN IS VERY HARD. SO I
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WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT THESE ARE AVAILABLE BEFORE THE MEETINGS OR, OR PROVIDED ON TO ONLINE SYSTEM BEFORE THE MEETING, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN REVIEW SO THAT THEY CAN ASK QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT'S VERY HARD TO JUST GO AND LIKE TAKE PICTURES OF THE WHOLE EACH SLIDE, SO I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. BECAUSE AS A RESIDENT IN THE FUTURE, I WILL BE SITTING THERE AND I'LL BE LIKE, YEAH, YOU JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING. SO I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT, AND THEN ONE LAST THING. THE UPTOWN DRAINAGE DESIGN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE ASKED REPEATEDLY IS TO GET INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I DID GET A FEW PEOPLE IN BOCA PARK TELL ME HOW, YOU KNOW, THE INVOLVEMENT WASN'T THERE. AND THEY FEEL THAT SOMETIMES THE DRAINAGE, THEY DIDN'T THEY DON'T SEE ANY RESPONSE IN REGARDS OF WHY THE DRAINAGE WAS DONE IN BERGER PARK. I EXPLAINED TO THEM, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS AND EVERYTHING, BUT THEY FEEL THAT YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE A WHOLE MISCOMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE, THE, THE VILLAGE COUNCIL STAFF AND THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS, THEY THEY FEEL THAT IF IT'S THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE VILLAGE SHOULD CUT, IT SHOULD PAY WHATEVER FOR SOMEONE TO CUT IT. OR SHOULD MAINTAIN AT LEAST SO THAT DEBRIS DOESN'T GET INTO IT. SO, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO HAPPEN. AND I'LL MAKE SURE, COUNCILWOMAN, BERNSTEIN PALMER MAKES SURE THAT YOU KNOW, THIS COMMUNITY MEETING HAPPENS BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP EVERYONE INVOLVED, JUST BECAUSE I LIVE HERE, AND I DEFINITELY KNOW THAT IN MY STREET, WE WILL NOT BE HAPPY IF DRAINAGE IS BE PUTTING BEEN PUT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE. AND I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW IF THAT HAPPENS, I WILL MAKE SURE I'LL BE AT THIS MEETING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, NOTIFYING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HEAR THE RESIDENTS IS VERY IMPORTANT. AS LIKE I TELL THE RESIDENTS, THIS COUNCIL HAS A LOT OF POWER. AND SO IF YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T DO YOUR, YOUR SHARE OF VOICING YOUR CONCERNS IS NOT, NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO ASK, THE STAFF FOR THIS UPTOWN DRAINAGE IF WE CAN HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING. SO THAT THE RESIDENTS IN UPTOWN BECAUSE THE BOCA PARK RESIDENTS DIDN'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE UPTOWN DRAINAGE, HAS SOME INPUT OF THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN? DO WE STILL HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO DOES DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO, MIKE, ARE WE ON TRACK TO GETTING THAT $40,000 BACK FROM THE. THAT WE LAID OUT FOR THE CIVIC CENTER? WE WILL KNOW A LITTLE LATER THIS EVENING. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A STEP IN THAT DIRECTION. COUNCILMAN, WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROCEDURES THAT ARE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, RESOLUTIONS, OKAY. I BELIEVE THEY ARE RESOLUTIONS. OH EIGHT AND OH NINE. SO IF THOSE ARE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, THAT CLEARS ONE OF TWO FINAL HURDLES. THE LAST IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, OKAY, WHICH IS IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT'S HANDS AT THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, TO TALK ABOUT THE LOT, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE BEEN PRETTY ACTIVE IN PUSHING IT AND THE RESPONSE THAT I'M GETTING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM IS THE WATER. NOBODY WANTS TO SPEND 3.5 MILLION, 4 MILLION WITH WITH DOING ENVIRONMENTALS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO BUILD A BUILDING AND HAVE TO SIT THERE AND WAIT FOR TWO YEARS TO TWO AND A HALF YEARS TILL THEY'RE ABLE TO GET WATER. SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE PATIENT WITH THAT LOT. I THINK THE PRICE IS RIGHT. I THINK WE CAN GET THAT, IF NOT EVEN MORE, FOR IT LATER ON. BUT, THAT IS AN ASSET. IT'S A GOOD ASSET AND I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. WE OUGHT TO JUST SIT ON IT. YEAH. THANK YOU.OKAY IS THAT ALL WE HAVE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? YES, MA'AM. OKAY I KNOW WE TALKED
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ABOUT THE PARKS, AND I KNOW YOU CAN PUT THAT ON ANOTHER SLIDE WHEN YOU, I'M REALLY CURIOUS OF HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE AS FAR AS MONEY IS SPENT ON EACH PARK. I WHENEVER YOU GET A CHANCE, I NEED TO SEE THAT. YEAH. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE. WE HAVE THAT. AND AGAIN, I THINK DEBORAH KEEPS REALLY GOOD RECORDS AND SHE HAS A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION BECAUSE WE WERE PREPPING THIS, FOR THE UPCOMING BUDGET TO ANYWAY, TO BREAK OUT THE PARKS. SO, WE CAN CERTAINLY GET WITH, WITH HER AND JUST CONFIRM THAT WHAT WE HAVE YOU WANT IN CURRENT YEAR OR CURRENT YEAR END PROJECTED FOR NEXT YEAR, IS THAT WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW? CAN YOU CAN YOU GIVE ME TWO YEARS? BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO SEE WHAT WE'RE AND WHAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON. YOU KNOW HOW WE'RE DOING NOW. SURE, SURE. I MEAN, WITH WITH THE YEAR THAT'S ABOUT TO END IN SEPTEMBER AND NEXT YEAR, BE GOOD. LIKE, WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING FOR EACH PARK IS THAT IS THAT OKAY? I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE HISTORICAL GOING BACK TO I DON'T KNOW WE I DON'T KNOW, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU THAT I'D HAVE TO ASK HER. I MEAN, I CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW, BUT WE DID MAKE AN EFFORT WITH THAT THIS CYCLE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. I THINK PROBABLY JUST TO ADD ON TO MISS.YEAH. COUNCILWOMAN PALMER, JUST A BACKTRACK OF ONE YEAR IF YOU HAVE IT. AND A FUTURE WHICH IS THIS COMING? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S ACHIEVABLE. RIGHT. YEAH. AND THEN ALSO, I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION. IF WE GAVE TO THE CHAMBER, DID WE GIVE TO ANYONE ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY TO DO ANY SPONSORED EVENT? NO. BUT PREVIOUSLY WE HAVE, THE ONLY THING THAT I KNOW OF, WHICH I KNOW IS ON THE IMMEDIATE HORIZON IS, GRANTS THROUGH THE INDIAN TOWN TRUST. OKAY. THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I KNOW OF THAT THERE'S BEEN ANY KIND OF SPONSORSHIP OF. AND VILLAGE FUNDS. YEAH. AND 2020. GOD, IT'S BEEN SO LONG. AND 2022. RIGHT. OR 2021. RIGHT. I REMEMBER WE GAVE TO THE SWAMP FEST OR THE, THE HOMECOMING. WE PAID SOME VENDORS. WE. YEAH. I MEAN, WE DIDN'T DIRECTLY PAY THEM. WE PAID SOME COSTS TO RENT SOME EQUIPMENT THAT YEAR, I THINK THERE WERE SOME PORTLETS, SOME BARRICADES, THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT COME TO MIND IMMEDIATELY. WE DID WE DID PAY SOME MONEY AND WE HAD COLLECTED COSTS AT THAT TIME, TO DETERMINE WHAT WE WHAT WE PAID FOR THAT THAT WAS AND I WOULD AGREE, IT'S AN INDIRECT SUPPORT, IF YOU WILL, WE DID NOT PAY ANYONE DIRECTLY. AND THEN WE ALSO WAIVED SOME FEES, CORRECT, TO ACES. I THINK THE NORMAL FEE IS $300 AND I DON'T I HONESTLY, I DON'T RECALL IF WE COLLECTED THAT OR NOT. IT'S AND THIS LAST AND THIS LAST BUDGET, HAVE WE WAIVED ANY FEES OR CONTRIBUTE TO SWAMP FEST OR ANYTHING ELSE. NO JUST THE CHAMBER. THE 29,000. YEAH. OKAY YEAH. THANK YOU. I'M SO SORRY. NO. ANY PLEASE. BY ALL MEANS. ANY TIME IT'S HER FAULT, I'D WANT TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. YES, MA'AM. NOW, THE SWAMP FEST LAST YEAR WAS DIFFERENT FROM THE YEARS PRIOR. THE PRIOR THIS THIS TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS. YOU HAVE THE CONCERNED CITIZEN OF BOCA PARK. THAT'S THAT'S AN ENTITY ALL BY ITSELF. NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH TWO YEARS AGO, BUT MISS, ANOTHER PERSON, I, I, I DO UNDERSTAND THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT WERE RIGHT AND I THAT'S ALL THAT I KNOW, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. YEAH. I'M MOVING FORWARD. THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO ASK. YEAH. WITH THE NEW GROUP THAT HAS FORMED, JUST GONE IN TWO YEARS, RIGHT. OKAY. WITH THE MONEY AS CAN, BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF SPECIAL EVENTS. AND I'M JUST THINKING IF WE ARE HAVING, FIREWORKS AND THAT'S A GROUP THAT THAT THAT BENEFITS ALL OF INDIANTOWN. RIGHT. HOW DO WE ALLOCATE MONEY FOR THEM AS WELL.
IS THAT POSSIBLE. I, I'M CERTAINLY I THINK IT'S IT DEPENDS IF IT'S THE, YOU KNOW PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL TO, TO, TO DO THAT, TO DIRECT US TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD THAT'S HOW WE WOULD DO IT. IF YOU ALL SAY I WANT X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT FUNCTIONS OR EVENTS RELATED TO SWAMP FEST NEXT YEAR, THEN TO COUNCIL ACTION AND, AND IT WILL BE IN THE BUDGET. THE REASON WHY I ASK THAT JUST SO EVERYBODY WON'T BE LIKE, WHY DID SHE ASK THAT QUESTION? I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHY I ASK. BECAUSE, WE HAVE WE THERE'S TWO GREAT THINGS WE GOT GOING AND IT BRINGS IN A LOT OF REVENUE FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO RHYMES, THEY'RE GOING TO SUBWAY. SO THERE'S REVENUE. SURE. PUMPING GAS THAT'S REVENUE FOR
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OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'M JUST THINKING IF THOSE TWO THINGS ARE GREAT AND ALSO DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE RODEO, THOSE ARE THREE GREAT THINGS THAT'S HAPPENING IN INDIANTOWN. SO AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE COUNCIL STANDS WITH RODEO, WHETHER THE COUNCIL, THE CHAMBER TAKE CARE OF THAT. AND I KNOW DONNA CAMERON IS BIG WITH THAT. SO I'M JUST WONDERING, CAN WE SPONSOR OR HELP OR HAVE THAT DISCUSSION? MAYBE NOT TONIGHT, BUT HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE THREE THINGS BECOMING LIKE A MAINSTAY LIKE OKEECHOBEE HAS THE BIG FESTIVAL AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE DO A LOT OF GREAT THINGS WITH THAT. AS WELL. JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE. SURE. OKAY WHAT ARE YOU TALKING.THAT'S IT. YOU WANT ME TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE? OH, OKAY. JUST WONDERING. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I CATCH EVERYBODY'S LITTLE SIGN UP. I'LL PUT IT BACK AND PUT IT BACK UP. NO. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY. NOT UNLESS YOU WANT TO. OKAY. I THINK I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S IT FOR THIS ONE.
ANYTHING ELSE? JUST LET ME KNOW PLEASE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE TONIGHT. IT WAS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL. AND, THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, GIVING, GIVING THOSE SLIDES AND PUTTING ALL THAT STUFF TOGETHER. THAT'S GREAT. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY LET EVERYBODY GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. AND HE'S AND HE IS SHORT STAFFED DOING THAT. SO YEAH OKAY. SO WE ARE NOW ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
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A RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, ADJUSTING WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITY RATES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 AND AUTHORIZING SUBSEQUENT ANNUAL ADJUSTMENTS OF WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITY RATES BASED ON A SPECIFIED PRICE INDEX; PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS, CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
]FIVE RESOLUTION. THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS ITEM IS A RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN FLORIDA. ADJUSTING WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITY RATES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 2025 AND AUTHORIZING SUBSEQUENT ANNUAL ADJUSTMENTS OF WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITY RATES BASED ON A SPECIFIED PRICE INDEX. PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS, CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND MIKE, ARE YOU HANDLING THE WATER RATES OR. ALL RIGHT, I MEAN, I GUESS I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN GOING A LONG TIME, BUT I JUST SAT DOWN AND DIDN'T REALIZE I HAD TO GO RIGHT BACK.YES, EXACTLY. YEAH COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE RESOLUTION HERE TONIGHT IS TO ADJUST THE, THE WATER RATES, WHICH HAVE NOT CHANGED SINCE 2021, FISCAL YEAR 2021, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH RATE CONSULTANT RALPH TILLIS FOR MORE THAN A YEAR PLUS, AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF THEIR, OF THEIR STUDY. AGAIN, COUNCIL, THE VILLAGE MANAGER PUT TOGETHER A VERY DETAILED, AGENDA ITEM AND I THINK IT WAS JUNE 13 COUNCIL MEETING. WHERE WE LAID OUT WHAT THESE COST DIFFERENTIALS WERE, WHAT THE RATE CONSULTANTS RECOMMENDATIONS WERE, WHICH CALLED FOR A, ESSENTIALLY A 40% INCREASE IN WATER RATES, SUCH A BIG INCREASE FOR TWO REASONS.
NUMBER ONE, TO CATCH UP WITH INFLATIONARY, FACTORS THAT WE'VE BEEN FALLING BEHIND ON. AND NUMBER TWO, THE COST OF SERVICE STUDY SHOWS THAT THE, UTILITY SYSTEM HAS BEEN GETTING SUPPLEMENTED BY SEWER RATES AND WATER RATES HAVE BEEN, NOT KEEPING UP THAT THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE AS FAR AS COST. SO, THIS ADJUSTMENT IN THE SCHEDULE IS REFLECTIVE OF THOSE COST OF STUDY, COST OF SERVICE STUDIES THAT REPTILLUS HAS PUT TOGETHER FOR US, AND, YOU KNOW, WE RECOMMEND THAT THOSE CHANGES BE MADE, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS IN THERE THAT I CAN ALSO SPEAK TO, WHICH IS TECHNICALLY DIFFERENT RESOLUTION, AND MAYBE I SHOULD THE COST RECOVERY IS A DIFFERENT RESOLUTION. SO WE PROBABLY SHOULD SAVE MY COMMENTS FOR THAT. I'D PROBABLY RECOMMEND, BUT THERE'S SOME COMMENTS ON THAT AS WELL. YEAH, YEAH. AND MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, JUST A COUPLE THINGS TO TACK ON. I KNOW IT WAS COVERED AT YOUR, IN YOUR ITEM BACK ON JUNE. BACK IN JUNE CONCERNING THE NEED FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER RATE INCREASES AND SO ON. AND MIKE TOUCHED ON A LITTLE BIT, BUT, TWO THINGS TO MENTION. ONE, INCREASING THESE WATER AND WASTEWATER RATES WHILE IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE IS UNNECESSARY. OR PARDON ME, IS NECESSARY BOTH TO THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE FUNDS BUT ALSO NECESSARY TO GETTING FURTHER NECESSARY MONIES FROM SRF FROM THE DEP STATE REVOLVING FUND. I'VE SEEN THIS IN JURISDICTIONS AROUND THE STATE.
SRF IS VERY GENEROUS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THEY ARE VERY STRICT IN WANTING TO SEE THAT THE WATER
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AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS THEY ARE INVESTING IN, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THAT THEY ARE INVESTING IN, ARE FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE AND ULTIMATELY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THEMSELVES. IF THEY'RE PUTTING SO MUCH CAPITAL MONEY IN, THEY WANT TO SEE THAT THAT'S GOING TO GET THE FULL RIDE OF ITS USE. FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE GOING TO BE THE CUSTOMERS, ANOTHER THING TO NOTE, AND THIS IS ALSO PURSUANT TO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE RATE CONSULTANT, AND ALSO NECESSARY TO APPROPRIATELY SATISFY SRF BUILT INTO THIS RESOLUTION IS A SET OF AUTOMATIC INCREASES AS IT GOES OVER TIME BASED ON SPECIFIED PRICE INDEX.IT'S BASICALLY, INCREASING AUTOMATICALLY IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS. EACH OCTOBER FIRST BY EITHER THE CPI INDEX FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER OR WATER AND SEWAGE MAINTENANCE, IN US CITY AVERAGE. THIS IS A SPECIFIC INDEX THAT'S PUT OUT BY A DIVISION OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, OR 3.5%, WHICHEVER IS GREATER. IT IS, I WOULD SPECULATE, UNLIKELY FOR A LITTLE WHILE, THAT THE 3.5% IS GOING TO BE, THE GREATER ONE. WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS GO UP FOR A LITTLE WHILE. BUT THIS IS AN INDEX THAT'S PUT TOGETHER BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT TRACKS WHAT THE COST SIDE OF THE HOUSE FOR THE, WATER AND WASTEWATER PROGRAM, HOW THAT'S GOING TO GO UP OVER TIME. SO AT BARE MINIMUM, IT'S STAYING EQUAL WITH THAT. SO THAT IS, THOSE ARE THE ADDITIONAL REASONS. AND THE EFFECT OF THE RESOLUTION YOU'RE ADOPTING TONIGHT. AND WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS FOR WHAT THE PAST THREE YEARS, TWO YEARS WE DID BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS. YEAH, I THINK THE RATE CONSULTANT AT THE TIME, HARTMAN SAID. JERRY HARTMAN, RECOMMENDED, RATE INCREASES ANNUALLY, IMMEDIATELY. I THINK THAT WAS WHAT WAS REPORTED IN THE, THAT'S GOING ON 3 TO 4 YEARS AGO NOW. YEAH WHEN YOU PURCHASE, YOU HAD TO HAVE THAT DONE BEFORE YOU COULD PURCHASE THE, THE, PLANT. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. SO, SO WE'VE JUST FALLEN WAY BEHIND, AND AGAIN, WE SEE, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF OPERATION, THE COST OF MAINTENANCE, REPAIRS, YOU KNOW, UTILITY REQUIRES MAINTENANCE, REQUIRES UPGRADE AND UPKEEP. IT JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE A HOUSE IN A WAY. YOU KNOW, YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO YOU GOT TO KEEP PUTTING, YOU KNOW, MONEY INTO IT. AND, THAT SYSTEM, WE ALL KNOW NEEDS, NEEDS.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK. A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE, BUT A LOT MORE WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE. BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, THE, YOU KNOW, THE STATE REVOLVING FUND IS AN OUTSTANDING. WE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS UTILITY IF IT WASN'T FOR THE SRF. THE SRF HAS BEEN OUTSTANDING TO THE VILLAGE, WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH THEM TO CONTINUE T, IMPROVE THE SUSTAINABILITY AND RELIABILITY OF WATER RESOURCES IN THE VILLAGE FOR, FOR YEARS TO COME, AND THEY'RE DOING IT AT INCREDIBLY GENEROUS TERMS, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERY $3 THAT WE BORROW, WE'RE GETTING TWO FORGIVEN, AND THE, THE, THE INTEREST RATES ON THESE LOANS ARE HEAVILY SUBSIDIZED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR CONSTRUCTION LOANS RIGHT NOW, AND THEY HAVEN'T REALLY CHANGED AMAZINGLY. THEY REALLY HAVEN'T CHANGED. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 1% OR SUB 1% INTEREST RATES. SO BEAT THAT ANYWHERE YOU'RE NOT. SO IT DOESN'T YOU KNOW, IT'S YOU KNOW, I THIS IS THIS I DON'T WANT TO SAY SOMETHING WITHOUT ATTRIBUTION TO COUNCILMAN DEPAULO, BUT THIS IS REALLY AN INVESTMENT OURSELVES. YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO INVEST IN OURSELVES HERE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN GET A DOLLAR SO THAT YOU GET THREE, THAT'S A GREAT DEAL. WE SHOULD TAKE THAT EVERY DAY, IT'S A LITTLE BIT PAINFUL ON THE SHORT FRONT, BUT THIS IS WHAT THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO BUILD THE A, A SUSTAINABLE AND, TOP NOTCH UTILITY SYSTEM, WHICH WE'RE WE'RE GETTING THERE, BUT WE NEED MORE HELP. AND, PASSAGE OF THESE RESOLUTIONS ARE, ARE ESSENTIAL TO THAT FACT. YEAH COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK MR. FLORIO, FOR HIS PRESENTATION, BUT ALSO, I WANTED TO JUST REITERATE FOR I WANTED YOU TO REITERATE THAT. SO FOR EVERY HOW MANY, HOW MUCH MONEY THAT WE BORROW, HOW MUCH GETS FORGIVEN. BECAUSE LIKE, A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT WE'RE BROKE EVERY, EVERY $3 WE GET IN SRF PROCEEDS FOR CONSTRUCTION.
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IT'S, WE GET TWO FORGIVEN. SO EVERY THREE THAT WE TWO ARE FORGIVEN, AND THEN THE INTEREST RATES ARE HOW MUCH THEY ARE ABOUT 1% PER YEAR. AND IF THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO A PRIVATE ENTITY, WOULD THEY HAVE GOTTEN THEY WOULDN'T HAVE QUALIFIED. THAT WAS THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE. THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE'RE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS A PRIVATE ENTITY WOULD NOT QUALIFY FOR THESE FOR THESE LOANS, WOULD NOT THE BEST THING THAT WOULD HAVE THAT HAPPENED TO UNIONTOWN WAS US PURCHASING THAT WATER, BECAUSE WE GOT, THE LOAN FORGIVENESS. WE GOT THE INTEREST RATE. WHO'S GOING TO GET THAT ANYWHERE ELSE? SURE, BUT I HAD A QUESTION. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THESE RATES, I KNOW WHO DO WE BANK WITH SOUTH STATE. SO SOUTH STATE, I KNOW CHARGES PER LIKE HOW MANY CHECKS DO WE GET? LIKE PER MONTH. OH DO YOU HAVE, LIKE AN ESTIMATE, HOW MANY CHECKS DO WE PROCESS IN PAYMENT? YOU'RE SAYING? YES. YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROBABLY PROCESSING MAYBE 200 A MONTH OR LESS. SO DO WE GET CHARGED FOR, PROCESSING THOSE CHECKS? BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE BANK FEES, ANALYSIS FEES, BUT. YEAH. YEAH. AND HOW MUCH IS THAT? YEAH, IT'S A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH. OKAY. AND THAT ADDS UP FOR. YEAH, FOR THE ACCOUNTS WE HAVE. YEAH, SURE.OKAY. AND SO DO WE RECUPERATE THAT OR WE DON'T. THAT COSTS, MOST OF THOSE COSTS ARE GENERALLY BORNE BY GENERAL GOVERNMENT OR UTILITY FUND. NO, WE DO NOT RECOVER THOSE. I MEAN, IN THE COST OF SERVICE STUDY WITH UTILITY, INDIRECTLY, WE DO THEIR PART OF THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. BUT IN GENERAL GOVERNMENT. NO, WE DO NOT PASS THOSE ON. WE DO NOT. OKAY, OKAY.
THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE QUESTIONS? COUNCIL, VICE MAYOR. SO I WAS LOOKING AT THE CHARGES.
SO WHO DECIDED THE FEES? BECAUSE I LOOKED AT LATE PAYMENT. IT'S GOING FROM 1.5 OR $5 TO $35.
WELL THAT'S A DIFFERENT RESOLUTION. THAT'S A DIFFERENT AGENDA ITEM OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. IF I YEAH I'LL HOLD IT. YEAH. YEAH. IT'LL BE COMING UP VERY SOON. YEAH I GOT YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON THIS ITEM. SURE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT. OKAY, A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER? IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION? NO MA'AM.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND SAY, ARE YOU GOING TO STAND UP? I'M GOING TO STAND RIGHT HERE AND STAND UP THERE. MAYOR. I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE TITLE
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A RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, ADJUSTING UTILITY SERVICE COST RECOVERY CHARGES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 AND AUTHORIZING SUBSEQUENT ANNUAL ADJUSTMENTS OF UTILITY SERVICE COST RECOVERY CHARGES BASED ON A SPECIFIED PRICE INDEX; PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS, CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
]FOR THE NEXT RESOLUTION. YEAH IT'S ITEM SIX, A RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL, THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA. ADJUSTING UTILITY SERVICE COST, RECOVERY CHARGES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024, 2025 AND AUTHORIZING SUBSEQUENT ANNUAL ADJUSTMENTS OF UTILITY SERVICE COST RECOVERY CHARGES BASED ON THE SPECIFIED PRICE INDEX. PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS, CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS RESOLUTION HERE, GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE PREVIOUS ONE, THESE ARE THE, UTILITIES COST RECOVERY FEE SCHEDULE, WHICH RELATES TO, CONNECTIONS. NEW CUSTOMERS. BILLINGS. CERTAIN FEES AND CHARGES, LATE FEES TO CUSTOMER DEPOSITS, ETC. WE DID MAINTAIN, FOR EXAMPLE, CUSTOMERS DEPOSIT RATES TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE RATE STUDY AND TO RATCHET THOSE UP. SO THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT FALLING BEHIND ON CUSTOMER DEPOSITS. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE HIGHER BILLS WITH THE SAME DEPOSIT AMOUNT. SO IF YOU ARE A NEW CUSTOMER OR YOU'RE HAVING TO MAKE A DEPOSIT, NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE WITH THE RATE SCHEDULE AND THE COSTS, THERE ARE SOME FEES THAT WE'RE ELIMINATING THAT WE DON'T HAVE. THERE WERE CERTAIN INSPECTION FEES AND COST, LIKE GREASE TRAP INSPECTION FEES THAT WE DON'T HAVE. SO WE'RE ELIMINATING THOSE FROM THE SCHEDULE, AND AGAIN, THERE WERE CERTAIN OTHER COST RECOVERY FEES RELATED TO DELINQUENCIES AND LATE PAYMENTS THAT ARE HAVE BECOME AND ARE AN ISSUE FOR THE VILLAGE. AND THEY HAVE A DIRECT IMPLICATION ON COLLECTION AND PAYMENT, SO WE'RE TRYING WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE UNIFORMITY WITH THE RATE SCHEDULE, AND HAVE A REFLECTIVE VALUE OF THOSE, THOSE, THOSE CHANGES AND COSTS PURSUANT TO THE RATE STUDY. BUT ALSO TRYING TO INSTITUTE CERTAIN COSTS HERE, TO PROMOTE, PAYMENT AND TIMELINESS, BECAUSE THERE'S THERE ARE SOME THERE ARE SOME REAL ISSUES WITH THAT OUT THERE,[02:25:03]
AND WE NEED TO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. SO, THAT IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS SCHEDULE TO BE CONSISTENT AND UNIFORM WITH THE COST OF SERVICE STUDY AND THE RATES THE WATER AND SEWER RATES, AND TO ADDRESS CERTAIN OTHER COST FACTORS WITHIN THE RATE SCHEDULE THAT, THAT, THAT ARE LONG OVERDUE AND NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. IS THERE A RETURN CHECK FEE THERE? IS THERE WAS AGAIN, THE PRIOR SCHEDULE HAD A CERTAIN SCALE, YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS WE'VE MADE THAT UNIFORM, THAT IT IS A IT'S THE IT'S THE, THE NSF FEE FROM THE BANK, PLUS A SMALL INCREASE TO COVER OUR ADMINISTRATIVE TIME. THAT'S ALL IT IS. YEAH, IT'S A VERY SMALL CHANGE WITH THAT. OKAY YES. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER. I THOUGHT COUNCIL, VICE MAYOR WAS GOING T.I'M A I'M A I'M A SO. YEAH. SO I WAS LOOKING AT THE, THE FEE CHARGE. SO WHO DECIDED THIS? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE INDIAN TOWN. THAT'S $35 THAT WE'RE TAKING AWAY FROM FAMILIES. THE ECONOMY IS NOT THE GREATEST RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? PEOPLE ARE WORKING 1 OR 2 JOBS OR THREE JUST TO SUPPORT THEM. SO NOW IT WENT FROM 5 TO $35. HOW CAN WE JUSTIFY THAT? YOU KNOW HOW I UNDERSTAND. WE'RE TRYING TO GET FLAT OUT RATE. SURE. OKAY. LET ME SPEAK TO THAT REAL QUICK.
SURE. IN IN MY JOB WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT EXTENDED DAY, IF THEY DO NOT PAY, IF THE PARENT DOES NOT PAY BY A CERTAIN TIME FOR THE WEEK, THAT'S COMING UP, IT'S A FLAT $20 LATE PAYMENT FE.
IT'S EVERY WEEK. SO THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON. I'M KIND OF I'M KIND OF I DON'T KNOW IF I'M NUMB TO IT, BUT I'M KIND OF USED TO THAT KIND OF A FEE BEING BEING. I'M JUST TRYING TO CONSIDER OUR RESIDENTS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ELDERLY PEOPLE WHO ARE, OH, ABSOLUTELY, YOU KNOW, ARE LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK. AND NOW WE'RE JUST LIKE, IF THEY DON'T MAKE THEY MAKE A PAYMENT ON THE 21ST, NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE. WELL, IT ENCOURAGES IN A KIND OF A VERY HARSH WAY, PEOPLE HAVE SCHEDULES LIKE, OKAY, THE FIRST PAYCHECK IS GOING TO PAY MY MORTGAGE. SECOND, I'M JUST LIKE, GIVE ME THE STATISTICS. THEY'RE DOING IT EVERY MONTH. YEAH SO ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY RESIDENT COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, THEY'RE ALWAYS WELCOME TO SIGN UP FOR AUTO PAYMENT. SO YOU CAN AUTO PAY AUTOMATICALLY BY CREDIT CARD ACH. AND WHEN WE DO THAT, I DO THAT, THERE AREN'T LATE FEES. PAYMENT IS MADE, WE HAVE WHEN WE DID AN ANALYSIS ON THIS, WE LEARNED THAT, BETWEEN AND IT WAS IN THE AGENDA ITEM HERE BETWEEN A QUARTER AND A THIRD OF ALL RESIDENTS ARE PAYING LATE EVERY, EVERY BILLING CYCLE. SO THAT IS, SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT ARE LATE IN, IN ARREARS FOR THE UTILITY, THAT'S BEING COLLECTED TEN PLUS DAYS OR MORE LATER THAN WHEN WE NEED, YOU KNOW, UTILITY IS A BUSINESS. IT HAS TO OPERATE. WE HAVE TO HAVE CASH FLOW IN ORDER TO MAKE PAYROLL PAY VENDORS, MAKE DEBT PAYMENTS TO THE SRF, WE HAVE TO HAVE CASH IN THE BANK. AND WHEN WE HAVE UP TO A THIRD OF CUSTOMERS WHO WERE NOT PAYING IN A TIMELY MANNER, IT DOES CAUSE ISSUES, IT EBBS AND FLOWS, BUT WE REALLY HAVE TO ADDRESS IT. AND THE $5 LATE FEE IS NOT AN DISINCENTIVE TO PAY ON TIME. AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SOLVE THIS BY SIGNING UP FOR AUTOMATIC PAYMENT. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO THAT, THAT'S A SOLUTION REALLY TO AVOID A LATE FEE. BUT WE HAVE TO PUT THINGS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT, THERE', THERE'S INCENTIVE TO TRY TO MAKE SURE YOUR BILLS ARE PAID ON TIMELY AND THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. AND THE COST RECOVERY ON THAT IS, IS, IS IT IS CERTAINLY A BIG INCREASE FROM WHERE WE'VE BEEN. $5 IS REALLY NOT UNHEARD OF THAT I KNOW OF IN TERMS OF A LATE FEE, THE $35, YOU KNOW, WE WORKED IT OUT. IT'S IT IS A CONSISTENT COST THAT WE INCUR TO HAVE TO REBUILD. RE INVOICE, CONTACT CUSTOMERS. IT'S IT'S A BIG INCREASE BUT IT'S FAIR. AND AGAIN HOPEFULLY IT CREATES THE CHANGE IN CONSUMER BEHAVIOR THAT WE NEED. I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS FIRST OVER HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. SO FOR THE EXHIBIT A WHERE IT SAYS PRIVATE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES, NON RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS. IF YOU GO DOWN, IT SAYS AFTER TEN 000 GALLONS OF METER WATER, USE NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE. WHY IS THAT? YEAH, YOU'RE THE THIRD PERSON WHO HAS ASKED ME THAT QUESTION BECAUSE, LIKE, IF, IF, IF I, I'M GOING TO BE BILLED FOR NO, I GET $15,000 A GALLON. SO THE COMMERCIAL NEED TO PAY THAT I'M NOT GOING TO I THINK THE TOP OF THAT PAGE AND THE BOTTOM ARE NOT EXACTLY IN TUNE. SO LET ME JUST TRY TO EXPLAIN THE CAP ON SEWER
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HAS TO DO THIS IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH EVERY RATE STUDY I'VE EVER SEEN, AND IT REALLY APPLIES TO ONLY RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS. IT DOESN'T APPLY TO COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS. THE, YOU KNOW, THE RATE CONSULTANTS AND THE ENGINEERS HAVE LONG SINCE DETERMINED, AND IT VARIES FROM UTILITY TO UTILITY. THEY DO THIS BASED ON THEIR OWN STUDIES THAT THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF POTABLE WATER THAT IS CONSUMED DOMESTICALLY, THAT'S GRAY WATER THAT THAT IS THEN RETURNED TO THE WASTEWATER UTILITY, OKAY, THROUGH THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM.AND THEN ABOVE THAT AMOUNT IS DEEMED, FOR OTHER PURPOSES LIKE IRRIGATION, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING ELSE WHERE THE WATER IS NOT THEN RETURNING TO THE SEWER SYSTEM FOR TREATMENT.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. AND EVERY GREAT CONSULTANT DOES WHAT THEY CALL A BILLING FREQUENCY ANALYSIS FOR THEIR CUSTOMER BASE. AND THEY THEY MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE SELL CAPACITY FOR OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM, THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER OF GALLONS THAT WE HAVE THAT IS BROKEN INTO DIFFERENT UNITS. FOR EXAMPLE, WATER IS 250 GALLONS A DAY. THAT'S WHAT WE ASSUME IS A MAXIMUM CAPACITY FOR A RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER. THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THAT WATER, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS HERE, BUT IN OTHER PLACES I'VE SEEN, 170 GALLONS A DAY OR SO IS CONSIDERED DOMESTIC USE. AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 170 AND 250 IS CONSIDERED IRRIGATION, IRRIGATION OR OTHER PEAK DEMAND.
THAT IS NOT BEING RETURNED TO THE SEWER SYSTEM FOR TREATMENT. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY THERE'S A CAP. IT'S BASED ON AN ENGINEERING CALCULATION. THEY DON'T THEY DON'T WANT YOU PAYING SEWERAGE FOR IRRIGATING YOUR LAWN OR WASHING YOUR CAR OR DOING IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT WHAT THE UTILITY IS. THAT'S WHERE OUR CAP HAS BEEN. WE HAVE NOT ENGAGED RETAILERS TO CHANGE THAT. THAT THAT'S NOT WAS NOT IN SCOPE FOR THEM WITH THIS RATE STUDY. WE MAY LOOK AT THAT AGAIN IN GREATER DETAIL IN SUBSEQUENT, ENGAGEMENTS WITH THEM. BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE BASIS FOR THAT. AND IT ONLY APPLIES TO RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS. OKAY. ONLY APPLIES TO RESIDENTIAL, NOT COMMERCIAL. NO. OKAY. AND THEN I SEE THE UTILITY DEPOSIT. SO THE CURRENT CURRENTLY YOU HAVE 140 THAT'S 60 PLUS 80. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 280. CURRENTLY IT'S RIGHT NOW IT'S 120. IT'S A I THINK IT'S 80 AND 60. AND WE INCREASED IT BY THE INCREMENTAL AMOUNTS. I THINK IT'S 180. SO IT'S 180 NOW I THINK IS WHAT IT IS. OH SO IT'S THE TOTAL. YEAH. SO WHERE IT SAYS WATER AND SEWER 140 TOTAL OKAY. SO THEN IT ALSO SAYS ADDITIONAL CUSTOMER DEPOSIT THREE PLUS DU. YES. SLASH 12 MONTH 50%. YEAH. AND IT SAYS ADDITIONAL. SO WHO WHO PAYS THAT. SO IF WE HAVE CUSTOMERS AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO APPLY THIS. SO STARTING OCTOBER WE'RE NOT GOING BACK IN TIME. WE'RE WE'RE GOING FORWARD OKAY. SO CUSTOMERS WHO ARE CONSISTENTLY LATE NOT PAYING THERE'S A RISK FACTOR OF NONPAYMENT TO THE UTILITY. OKAY, THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE WHEN YOU HIT THREE LATE FEES, AN ADDITIONAL 50% DEPOSIT. OKAY. IF YOU'RE FIVE PLUS TIMES LATE, THEN THAT'S GOING TO BE A DOUBLE DEPOSIT THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE ON. AGAIN, IT'S YOUR MONEY.
YOU'LL GET IT BACK IF YOU PAY ON TIME OR IF YOU DEFAULT, THEN WE THEN THE UTILITY HAS SOME SECURITY TO MAKE SURE THAT RESIDENTS ARE, YOU KNOW, HAVE PAID THEIR BILL, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE BASIS OF THAT. AND AGAIN, IT IS IT IS KIND OF GOING HAND IN HAND A BIT WITH THE LATE FEE IS TO TRY TO INCENTIVIZE PAYMENT AND TO ENSURE TIMELINESS. SO WITH THE LATE PAYMENT FEE, IS THERE LIKE A GRACE PERIOD. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. AND THAT WAS AT LEAST FIVE DAYS RECOMMENDED. NO, NOT AT THIS TIME BECAUSE OF THE BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY THAT WE HAVE NOW.
WE HAVE A THIRD OF CUSTOMERS. WE'RE PAYING LATE EVERY SINGLE MONTH. HOW MUCH? BETWEEN A QUARTER AND A THIRD OF OUR CUSTOMER BASE PAYS LATE, APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY HOW MANY RESIDENTIAL HOUSES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN 4 AND 600 CUSTOMERS EVERY MONTH. 4 TO 600 CUSTOMERS EVERY MONTH. EVERY MONTH. YEAH, YEAH. AND WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE RATES. THEN WE'RE GONNA INCREASE THE DEPOSIT. WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR A DEPOSIT AND THEN WE'RE GONNA. WELL, DEPENDING IT ALL DEPENDS ON AGAIN THEIR PAYMENT HISTORY.
IF THEY, IF THEY, IF THEY SIGN UP FOR DIRECT YOU KNOW, DIRECT PAYMENT THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THOSE CHARGES. YES I UNDERSTAND, BUT THE COUNCIL CAN PROBABLY TRY TO HELP AND ASSIST WITH THIS. CORRECT. AS IN LIKE NOT GETTING AN ADDITIONAL CUSTOMER DEPOSIT OR SOMETHING.
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LISTEN, IT'S A RESOLUTION THAT THE COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MODIFY, EDIT, REJECT IN ITS ENTIRETY. THAT'S REALLY AGAIN, THAT'S YOU ALL HAVE THE POWER ON THAT. THAT'S NOT. AND HOW MANY HOW MANY RATEPAYERS DO WE HAVE? ABOUT 2000. THAT'S INCLUDING COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.THAT'S ALL CONNECTIONS. SO 2000, AND SO 400. YOU SAID 400, BETWEEN 4 AND 600 EVERY MONTH.
PAY LATE. RIGHT. AND WE HAVE BETWEEN 40 AND 70 WHO ARE DISCONNECTED FROM SERVICE EVERY MONTH. YEAH. HAVE WE ANALYZED WHAT'S THE REASONING IF IT'S LIKE THEY'RE ON LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY OR SOMETHING, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S A CERTAIN COMMON BASE OF CUSTOMERS WHO ARE ON THAT LIST EVERY MONTH. IT'S YEAH, IT'S NOT IT'S THERE'S A RANDOMNESS TO IT.
CERTAINLY WHAT PERCENTAGE I DON'T KNOW, BUT THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER OF REPEAT CUSTOMERS WHO ARE OKAY WHO ARE ON THAT LIST. YEAH OKAY. SO THE HERD RESIDENTS, BECAUSE IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER, MR. PACHECO. RIGHT. I HEARD YOUR QUESTION. IT WAS ACTUALLY ON MY THING, I, I THINK I'M LOOKING AT MODIFICATION OF THIS, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU SAYING. AND I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY JUST AN ESTIMATE BETWEEN 4 TO 600. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IF I DO THE MATH, YOU SAID ABOUT 2000 RESIDENTS THAT PAY, RIGHT. SO THAT'S 1400 PEOPLE. THAT I GUESS PAY ON TIME AND THE OTHER 600. SO AND THEN YOU JUST SAID THOSE THERE ARE SOME THAT YOU TOOK INTO FACTOR THAT MAY BE ON SOCIAL SECURITY. YOU I KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE BUSINESS. I KNOW. SURE. SO, AND THEN THERE'S NO GRACE PERIOD.
CORRECT. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT. NO, I WISH WE DID. BUT THAT WAS HIGHLY ADVISED NOT TO. YEAH. SO THEN THE OTHER PART I KNOW A LOT OF OTHER COUNTIES, THEY THEY HAVE GONE STRAIGHT TO YOU HAVE TO SET UP YOU EVERY, EVERY MONTH THEY DO THAT, BUT I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE POPULATION OF, OF, OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE BANK ACCOUNTS, AND SOME OF THEM PAY BY, YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE HELP THEM OR WHAT HAVE YOU. SURE, SURE, SURE, NOW I WOULD. OH, AND I'M SORRY, MR. PACHECO. I WOULD THINK BEFORE WE REALLY GET INTO THIS, WE NEED TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC. WE NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF, MEETING. COMMUNITY MEETING AND LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THIS. AND MAYBE YOU HAVE. I DON'T REMEMBER, BUT MAYBE YOU DID, THIS IS WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TOWARD. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IT NEED TO BE $35 LATE FEES AND THEN ALL THIS EXTRA STUFF. I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY CONDUCIVE FOR THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN. WE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST MY SMALL THOUGHT.
OKAY? AND YOU GOT THE CONNECTIO. THE NEW CUSTOMER DEPOSIT, LATE FEES. AND ALTHOUGH WE'RE LOOKING AT WHEN I THINK ABOUT OTHER OTHER COUNTIES, THEY'RE MORE ADVANCED THAN WE ARE AND A LOT OF STUFF THEY ARE ALREADY DOING AS YOU PROPOSED. BUT BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE. I AGREE WITH INCREASE. I ALSO AGREE WITH EDUCATING THE PUBLIC. I ALSO AGREE WITH MODIFYING THIS.
COMING BACK TO THE TABLE WITH IT. THAT'S JUST MY SMALL THOUGHT. OKAY OKAY, VICE MAYOR YEAH, I HAVE A FEAR THAT IF WE GO WITH THIS, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE NO WATER. PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THIS. I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY IN THIS ECONOMY. I JUST HAVE A FEAR THAT THE PEOPLE THAT PAY LATE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE WATER. THEN WHAT? THEY'RE GOING TO START STEALING WATER. YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER FOR THE RESIDENTS. WE'RE NOT PALM CITY.
WE'RE NOT PALM BEACH GARDENS, WE'RE THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON EXPLAINING THESE FEES AND JUSTIFYING LIKE THAT. 30 THAT WENT FROM 5 TO 35. IT STILL BLOWS ME AWAY. I'M LIKE, THAT'S $35 THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING FROM PEOPLE FOR THEIR FOOD, MORTGAGE, RENT, GAS TO GET TO WORK. IT'S JUST JUSTIFY IT. BUT THE ONE THING I WOULD JUST ADD, IF YOU DON'T MIND AND JUST JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT IS, JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, UTILITY SYSTEM HAS A, IT'S A COST RECOVERY SYSTEM. AND AS THE AGENDA ITEM EXPLAINED, WHEN,
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WHEN, WHEN PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT PAYING BILLS AND WE'RE PAYING LATE OR NOT PAYING, THOSE, THOSE ADDITIONAL COSTS ARE BEING BORNE BY THOSE WHO DO. AND WE'RE PAYING INTO THE SYSTEM. AND, IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT KIND OF LAG IN PAYMENTS AND THAT NUMBER OF LATE PAYS AND DELINQUENCIES, IT WILL EVENTUALLY AFFECT THE LONG TERM COSTS OF OPERATING UTILITY. IT JUST WILL. THIS IS THIS IS NOT A SIMPLE ONE SIDED ANSWER. IT IT WILL AFFECT THE OVERALL COST OF OPERATION FOR THE UTILITY. AND THE BEST WAY THAT UTILITY MAINTAINS, FAIRNESS AND UNIFORMITY ACROSS ALL CUSTOMER CLASSES IS BY HAVING THE SAME, THE SAME TERMS FOR ALL CUSTOMER.OKAY. NOW AS FAR AS INFORMATION WE PUT INTO THE BILLS, WE'RE ABLE TO PUT THE INFORMATION INTO THE BILL. SO WHEN THEY GET THEIR BILL, WE CAN DO, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME EVERY MONTH. OKAY. THIS IS WHAT'S COMING UP. THIS IS WHAT'S COMING UP. SO IT'S INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME TO A MEETING. YOU CAN PUT IT OUT THERE. WELL THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME. THEY MAY BE WORKING. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME. BUT IF IT'S IN THEIR BILL, THIS IS WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE. YOU NEED TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS.
THAT'S GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT TO EVERY CUSTOMER. WITHOUT QUESTION. THEY WILL RECEIVE IT.
SO I THINK THAT TAKES CARE OF THE COMMUNICATION PART OF IT. ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMETHING HURTS, YOU KIND OF HAVE A TENDENCY TO PAY ATTENTION TO IT. SO LIKE I SAID, I'M I'M USED TO THIS BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, IF A PERSON MISSES IT AND IT HURTS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MISS IT AGAIN. ALSO, YOU KNOW YOUR BANK, IF YOU BOUNCE A CHECK. YEAH. IF YOU LOOK ANYWHERE ELSE. THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON IN ANY OTHER MUNICIPALITY. AND WE'VE GOTTEN OURSELVES INTO TROUBLE HERE BY NOT HEEDING THE ADVICE ON MILEAGE. WE'RE NOW WE'RE PLAYING CATCH UP ON THAT. OKAY. WE'RE ON THE SEWER RATES. WELL, WE'RE PLAYING CATCH UP ON THAT BECAUSE WE DID NOT HEED THE ADVICE TO TWO OR 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO. SURE, SURE. SO THAT IS THAT IS MY CONCERN IS OKAY, AS LONG AS YOU ALLOW SOMEBODY, YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE CREATING IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A KID. IF YOU ALLOW THEM TO CRY AND I WANT CANDY AND YOU GIVE IG IT. YEAH. AND IT'S AND IT'S JUST A HARSH REALITY.
EVERYBODY'S GOT FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT. OKAY. YOU GOT A FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT. THEY'LL COME AND CUT YOU OFF. SURE. THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. AND THERE IS A LATE FEE. SO YOU HAVE. BELIEVE ME BEEN THERE DONE THAT I AM ONE I ARE A CUSTOMER. YEAH. SO YOU KNOW AND SO IT IS INCENTIVE FOR ME. OH MY GOODNESS. LET ME MAKE SURE THAT I DO IT IN ORDER THAT I DON'T FEEL THAT PINCH BECAUSE I CAN'T AFFORD IT. RIGHT THE, THE OTHER ASPECT OF THIS WHICH MR. FLORIO TRIED TO TRUST ON IS SOME OF THESE GRANTS. WHEN WE GO AND APPLY FOR THEM, IF WE ARE NOT DOING A UNIFORM LATERALLY ACROSS THE BOARD, TREATING CUSTOMERS IN THE SAME MANNER WHEREBY YOU'RE LETTING SOME PEOPLE FLOAT, THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE THE ONES ACTUALLY PAYING, THEN WE DON'T MEET SOME OF THE CRITERIA. I MEAN, THEY WANT TO SEE, WELL, THIS IS NOT AN UNUSUAL PRACTICE.
THIS THIS IS THE NORM INDUSTRY WIDE. CORRECT OKAY. CORRECT. COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO, YOU GOT YOUR HAND UP. I THINK YOU'RE ON MUTE. HOW YOU DO? THERE WE GO. THERE YOU GO. GOOD. SO I DON'T I LISTEN WHEN, WHEN PEOPLE DON'T PAY, IT DISRUPTS EVERYTHING. THERE'S A CASH FLOW PROBLEM THERE. AND AS YOU EVERYBODY SEES OUR CASH FLOW IS PRETTY TIGHT. AND WHEN WE HAVE TO DO EXTRA WORK TO GO COLLECT MONEY, SOMEBODY'S GOT TO PAY FOR IT, RIGHT? SO THE WAY TO AVOID THAT IS TO PAY YOUR BILL ON TIME. AND WE HAVE HE'S GOT YOU CAN PUT A CREDIT CARD ON FILE. YOU CAN HAVE IT DRAFTED OUT OF YOUR BANK. YOU CAN DO IT. SO MANY WAYS. BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. AND, WELL, NO, USUALLY YOU MAKE A MOTION AND YOU HAVE A SECOND, THEN YOU DO COMMENT. THAT'S ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. USUALLY THE WAY THAT'S DONE. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO APPARENTLY IT DIES FOR A LACK OF SECOND. WE HAVE MORE COMMENT. WE DO. OH YES MA'AM, I'M FOR WHAT? YOU WHAT YOU'RE DOING? I'M FOR IT. OKAY HOWEVER, I AM FOR MODIFICATION. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I ALSO WHEN
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THE GRANT UNIFORMITY WE NEED THE GRANTS. I TOTALLY GET IT WITH, VILLAGE MANAGER WAS SAYING I GET THAT. OKAY OVERTAXATION LIKE COUNCILMAN, APOLLO SAID IT IS OVERTAXATION ON OTHERS, BUT I REALLY, I REALLY THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MAYOR IS SAYING ABOUT PUT IT IN YOUR, PUT IT IN THE MAIL. BUT I ALSO, I WOULD PREFER US TO ERROR ON DUE DILIGENCE TO THE COMMUNITY RATHER IN ADDITION TO, IN ADDITION TO PUTTING IT IN THE MAIL, WE CAN'T SAY WHO WILL OR WHO WILL NOT COME TO A MEETING. WE JUST CAN'T SAY THAT. BUT WE CAN DO IS PUT IT OUT THERE. AND IF A PERSON IF PEOPLE DON'T COME, OKAY, WE GOT IT. BUT WE GAVE THE WE GAVE TWO MODES OF COMMUNICATION. THIS RIGHT HERE IS NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO WE'RE PUTTING IT IN THE MAIL. NUMBER THREE A WORKSHOP. NOW WE WE'VE OVER COMMUNICATED. SO IF IN THE EVENT THAT WE GO TO $35 THE AND NOBODY SHOWS UP OR PEOPLE DON'T VOICE THEIR OPINION, GUESS WHAT. WE'VE DONE DUE DILIGENCE. WE'VE OVEREXTENDED IN THREE MODES. BUT BEFORE WE GO TO THAT, I AGREE EVERYBODY NEED TO PAY THE BILLS.I TOTALLY GET IT. EVERY WHEN YOU DON'T PAY YOUR BILLS, IT BOTHERS. I THINK SOMEBODY WAS STEALING LIGHTS FROM US. SO I TOTALLY GET THAT. I JUST, I JUST WANT US TO WHAT I WANT, I PREFER US TO AIR AND OVERDOING IT THAN NOT. WHEN WOULD THESE RATES TAKE EFFECT? OCTOBER FIRST. OKAY, SO THAT MEANS WE NEED TO WE. WHAT'S THE DATE? THIS THIS IS AUGUST. OKAY. SO WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETIN.
YEAH, WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING. WE HAVE A WHOLE WE GOT TWO MEETINGS IN SEPTEMBER AM I CORRECT. YES OKAY. SO IN SEPTEMBER WE NEED TO, TELL EVERYBODY PUT IT ON FACEBOOK OR WHATEVER. BUT I'M, I'M I DON'T THINK KEN, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN MODIFY THIS $35. CAN WE CAN DO IT THE COUNCIL HAS. OH, WE GOT THE POWER. WE GOT THE POWER. WELL, NOW DO IF THAT WAS IF THAT IS THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL AS FAR AS THAT GO INTO EFFECT OCTOBER THE 1ST HAS THE BILL ALREADY BEEN PREPARED FOR THIS GOING TO GO OUT SEPTEMBER THE FIRST OR WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET INFORMATION IN THAT. CAN WE PUSH IT BACK A MONTH? SO THAT'S TWO MONTHS OF INFORMATION GOING OUT. I MEAN WE WOULD PROBABLY WAIT WHEN IS. YEAH WHEN, WHEN DO WE HAVE THINGS GOING OUT. YEAH.
SO I HAVE A COUPLE THOUGHTS TO ADD. BUT YEAH THAT'S A USEFUL PIECE OF INFORMATION FOR OCTOBER 1ST. USUALLY GO OUT AT THE VERY END OF SEPTEMBER. BEGINNING OF AND THE DUE DATE IS OCTOBER 20TH. SO IT WOULD BE RELATED TO BILLS THAT WOULD BE COMING DUE ON OCTOBER 20TH. WE WOULD WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET ANY FURTHER NOTICES IN THE BILLS THAT ARE COMING OUT A FEW DAYS FROM NOW. RIGHT. AND THEY WERE TOO LATE ON ON THAT. YEAH, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION. COUNCILWOMAN, IN TERMS OF WHAT DO YOU HAVE? CAN YOU I GUESS, YOU KNOW, HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU THINK SHOULD BE OUT THERE. AND SPECIFICALLY, WHAT WOULD IT BE THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE? OKAY. LET ME LET ME JUST SAY THIS. WHAT I SAY IN MY IN MY CLASSROOM, WE LET'S GIVE IT LET'S GIVE THE SPEAKER RESPECT. THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION GOING ON AND SOMEBODY'S GOING TO MISS SOMETHING. AND WE DON'T WANT YOU TO COME BACK AND SAY, WHAT WAS SAID. SO LET'S WHEN ONE PERSON IS TALKING, PLEASE, Y'ALL STOP THE CHATTER. LET'S LET EVERYBODY HAVE THEIR CONVERSATION. PLEASE.
I'M SORRY. COULD YOU REPEAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T HEAR. SURE. I JUST WAS. AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADVERTISING OR NOTIFICATION OF CUSTOMERS. I MEAN, NOT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD THAT ENTAIL DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR? I MEAN, WE SENT MAILERS TO EVERY SINGLE RATEPAYER WE DID POST, LEGAL ADVERTISEMENT IN THE MAIL. WE HAD THIS HEARING TONIGHT. SO WHAT WOULD BE WHAT WHAT I GUESS MODE AND INFORMATION WOULD YOU WANT DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR THIS EVENING? WELL, WHAT WHAT MY THOUGHTS WERE TO HAVE A, A COMMUNITY MEETING, A WORKSHOP OR A WORKSHOP, JUST LAYING IT OUT FOR THOSE THAT MAY THAT THAT ARE NOT HERE AND SOMEBODY MAY GO TELL THEIR THEIR MOM OR DAD OR WHOEVER AND BUT THEY NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SO THEY CAN COME TO THE, TO THE WORKSHOP. WE CAN DO IT ON, AND, DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING AT 530 MEETING LIKE WE'VE DONE OTHER STUFF. WE CAN BE HERE AT 530 AND JUST GIVE THAT TIME TO JUST ROLL IT OUT. YEAH THAT THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT. OKAY, OKAY. HERE'S MY HER NAME.
HERNANDO. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYO. SO FOR ME, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WE I UNDERSTAND THE BASE CHARGE WHICH WE JUST PASSED. CORRECT THIS IS THE COST RECOVERY. SO THIS IS LIKE THE LATE PAYMENT FEES, THE
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ADDITIONAL ADD ONS THAT WE PUT ON. BUT I REALLY THINK THAT THIS IS NOT LIKE I WOULD UNDERSTAND IF IT WERE THE MONTHLY BILL, BUT IT'S NOT THE MONTHLY BILL, IT'S THE ADD ONS. SO I FEEL THAT THIS, THE LATE PAYMENT FEE, THE, THE ADDITIONAL CUSTOMER DEPOSIT, IF THEY'RE THREE PLUS PAST DUE, THE FIVE PAST DUE, I REALLY THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER IT AS A COUNCIL BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, I KNOW PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING HERE. WE ARE ALREADY RAISING THE WATER FEES. AND YOU'RE GOING TO ADD THIS TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING. SO IT'S THE COUNCIL HAS THE POWER AND I HAVE TO REPEAT THAT AGAIN. AND AGAIN BECAUSE PEOPLE SAY WE THIS COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE POWER. THIS COUNCIL HAS THE POWER, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MISINFORMATION ABOUT THAT. SO THIS COUNCIL HAS A POWER. AND IF THE RESIDENTS COME TO THIS POSSIBLE WORKSHOP AND VOICE THEIR OPINION IN REGARDS OF THE ADD ONS, BECAUSE THE DEBATE HERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WE HAVEN'T INCREASED THE FEES AND THE FEES ARE A MUST, BUT THE ADD ONS ARE THE QUESTION HERE. THE ADDITIONAL DEPOSITS, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T EVEN WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THAT. THERE'S LIKE IT DIDN'T EXIST. IT DOESN'T EXIST CURRENTLY. CORRECT. THE ADDITIONAL CUSTOMER DEPOSIT. NO. FOR THREE MONTHS. CORRECT. SO THAT SO THAT TECHNICALLY THE VILLAGE DOESN'T EVEN RECEIVE THAT CURRENTLY. SO NOW WE'RE ADDING THAT ON ON TOP OF. SO IT'S JUST LIKE I BUY MY IPHONE AND I WANT A CASE THAT'S AN ADD ON. I'M NOT OBLIGATED TO GET AN ADD ON. SO IT'S THE SAME THING WITH, THE COST RECOVERY. IT'S AN ADD ON THAT I THINK THAT WOULD HURT OUR CONSTITUENTS, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, I HAVE WORKED WITH PEOPLE THAT STRUGGLE AND SOMETIMES THE STRUGGLE IS REAL OUT THERE. PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN IN ILLNESS THAT HAVEN'T HAD TIME, THAT HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO WORK, THAT HAVE BEEN SURGERY, THAT ARE GOING THROUGH CANCER, LITERALLY, I CAN TELL YOU, ONE OF MY PARISHIONERS, UNFORTUNATELY, DIED FROM CANCER, AND SHE NEEDED ASSISTANCE. AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO YOU KNOW, SHE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY BECAUSE SHE WASN'T WORKING. AND YOU'RE GOING TO STILL ADD THIS CUSTOMER DEPOSIT WHEN SHE HAD A 20 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER THAT WAS TRYING TO MAKE ENDS MEET. SO LIKE, I THINK THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE IN UNDERSTANDING. YES, I KNOW WE'RE A BUSINESS. THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN WATER COMPANY IS A BUSINESS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE WATER FEES HAVE TO INCUR THAT. I CLEARLY UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT. BUT THE COST RECOVERY FEES ARE ADDITIONAL ADD ONS THAT SHOULDN'T BE ADDED ON. IF WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THEM, WHY PUT THEM ON WHEN IT'S NOT THERE ALREADY, THE LATE PAYMENT FEE? YES. 35. LET'S INCREASE IT TO TEN, 15 BUCKS. IF WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE PAY. BUT 35 IS LIKE A IT'S LIKE A YOU IMAGINE A THREE MONTHS IS LIKE ALMOST OVER $100. YEAH. LIKE 105. SO I, I, I THINK THAT THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO I'M OFF AFTER TODAY. THIS IS MY LAST MEETING. BUT YOU FOUR PLUS WHO HIM. THAT'S ON THE TELEVISION. ARE THE DECIDING FACTOR. SO Y'ALL DEAL WITH THAT. THANK YOU. COUNT. VICE MAYOR. SO I SEE THE NEED IN THE COMMUNITY. I HOST A MONTHLY FOOD DRIVE. PEOPLE SHOW UP AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING. THE NEED IS THERE, AND I JUST CAN'T JUSTIFY THIS. BUT I WANT TO SUGGEST HAVING THE WORKSHOP ON A SATURDAY TO GET THE WORKING PEOPLE HERE, GET THEM TO, YOU KNOW, VOICE THEIR CONCERNS.BECAUSE IF WE HAVE IT DURING OUR COUNCIL MEETING, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SHOW THEY GOTTA THEY GOTTA GO HOME, FEED THEIR KIDS, DO LAUNDRY, FEED THEMSELVES, YOU KNOW, OR WORK ANOTHER JOB. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE WORKSHOP ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY AND LET'S LET'S HEAR THEM LIKE LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER SAID, IF THEY DON'T SHOW, WE TRIED. WE AT LEAST TRIED. OKAY. AND I AGREE WITH THAT. HOWEVER IF IT DOESN'T HURT, WHERE'S THE INCENTIVE? YEAH, $35 IS A LOT.
SO YOU MAKE AN EXTRA EFFORT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE YOU GET IT DONE. FPN AND I UNDERSTAND THAT
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THE INDIVIDUALLY THERE ARE ISSUES THAT COME UP IN A PERSONAL PERSON'S LIFE THAT THAT YOU KNOW, SICKNESS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, LOSS OF JOB. I KNOW THAT FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT HAS A HAS AN OPTION TO AN EXTENSION, YOU KNOW, REQUEST AN EXTENSION. SO I THINK THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WORTH WORTH EXPLORING. SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A FOURTH TO A THIRD OF THE PEOPLE REGULARLY BEING LATE. THAT DOES NOT SPEAK TO I MEAN THAT THAT'S MORE THAN JUST AN INDIVIDUAL HAVING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A HABIT. THAT'S A HABIT. AND BELIEVE ME, I HAVE FOUND OUT THAT SOMEBODY THAT YEAH, YOU CAN'T AFFORD THAT EXTRA $35. SO YOU MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. IT'S JUST LIKE BOUNCING A CHECK. YOU MAKE SURE BECAUSE NOT ONLY DOES THE BANK GET YOU, BUT ALSO THE WHOEVER YOU PAID GETS YOU. SO YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TAKING MONEY OUT THAT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE. SO YOU LEARN NOT TO DO IT. IT HURTS. SO IT'S THAT'S WHAT INCENTIVIZES I.AND SO I DON'T KNOW, I SEE IT AND I ALSO SEE THAT WE'VE GOTTEN OURSELVES INTO TROUBLE, BY NOT HEEDING, ADVICE, ON ISSUES LIKE THIS. ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS SEWER RATES GO, AS FAR AS THE MILLAGE RATE GOES AND WE GET BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL AND, AND, I THINK DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE MAKE AN EXTRA EFFORT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS YOU KNOW, GET GET IT IN THE BILL. APPARENTLY, IT'S ALREADY BEEN IN THE BILL, BUT GET IT IN THE BILL. DO WHATEVER IT TAKES. BUT SO EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT THIS IS COMING DOWN THE PIKE. SO IT'S NOT A SURPRISE TO ANYBODY BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE, OH, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY OR OUT OF THE ORDINARY. IF YOU LOOK AT EVERY OTHER MUNICIPALITY, YOU LOOK AT EVERY OTHER UTILITY.
THEY HAVE THIS STUFF IN PLACE ALREADY. WE'RE BEHIND TIME. AND SINCE WE'RE BEHIND TIME, WE HAVE A THIRD TO A QUARTER OF THE PEOPLE REGULARLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT. SOME PEOPLE, YEAH, IT MAY NOT BE, BUT SOME PEOPLE IT'S JUST HABIT BECAUSE THEY KNOW NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN. SO IT'S A FINE LINE. BUT WHEN YOU WHEN YOU IT'S TOUGH. IF I COULD JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT, MAYOR. SURE. I DID, I DID, YOU KNOW, SPEAK WITH STAFF WHO DEAL WITH CUSTOMERS EVERY DAY AND I ASKED THEM, I SAID, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE TIMES WHEN WE HAVE CUSTOMERS WHO ARE DISCONNECTED OR WHO LOSE SERVICE, WHO DO NOT RECONNECT? AND HE SAYS, I WAS TOLD NO. THEY ALL RECONNECT AND THEY RECONNECT PRETTY QUICK. THEY DON'T GO WITHOUT WATER, SEWER SERVICE. THEY THEY GET IT DONE. THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO GIVE US SOME ACTION ITEMS ON EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE IN AND WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE OUT SO THAT A WORKSHOP OR FUTURE ADVERTISEMENT COULD BE REFORMED? THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, I THINK I'M NOT 100% SURE WHICH ITEMS YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF. SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE THERE'S SOME CONSENSUS FOR INCREASING A LATE FEE, BUT TO SOME SOME OTHER AMOUNT. AND THERE MAY THERE MAY BE SOME CONSENSUS OR NOT. I DON'T KNOW. ON HAVING ADDITIONAL DEPOSITS ADDED FOR CUSTOMERS WHO ARE HABITUALLY LATE AND OR WHO ARE DISCONNECTS. AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO NEED TO TRY TO ADDRESS AS WELL, TO TRY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU BECOME A RISK WITH ANY OTHER UTILITY, INCLUDING FOR FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE MORE DEPOSITS FROM YOU, THAT'S JUST YOU ARE A HIGHER RISK CUSTOMER. AND THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. WE DON'T WANT TO BE WRITING OFF BAD DEBTS, FISCAL YEAR 23. I HAD TO WRITE OFF $15,000 IN BAD DEBT THAT THE UTILITY HAD ACCUMULATED, OVER A PERIOD OF A FEW YEARS SINCE THE BEGINNING. IT HAPPENS IN EVERY UTILITY, BUT WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP THAT MINIMAL, AND I THINK DEFINITELY PUTTING CERTAIN FACTORS IN PLACE TO INCENTIVIZE, AND PROMOTE AND ENCOURAGE CUSTOMERS TO PAY TIMELY AND CONSISTENTLY. AND AGAIN, TO KEEP, TO KEEP IN KEEPING WITH THE, THE MINDSET OF THE COST OF SERVICE STUDY, WHICH IS THAT YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING SHOULD NOT BE SUBSIDIZING THE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT. AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU KEEP THE SYSTEM, AS COST EFFECTIVE AS YOU CAN. AND IF YOU HAVE THAT, IF YOU HAVE A
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LARGE NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS THAT ARE NOT KEEPING UP THAT THAT END OF IT, THEN THAT'S GOING TO JUST COST EVERYBODY ELSE MORE IN THE LONG RUN. YEAH YES, MA'AM. OKAY YES, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THE HIGH RISK CUSTOMERS AND WE HAVE THEM IN ALL MUNICIPALITIES. AND AGAIN, I REITERATE THAT, MODIFYING IT TO THE POINT THAT WE HAVE THIS MEETING, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE SATURDAY MEETING, AS VICE MAYOR SAID, HAVE THE AND EXPLAIN TO THE CUSTOMER IF YOU'RE A THREE CONSISTENTLY THREE MONTHS LATE AND I KNOW IN SOME MUNICIPALITIES THEY DO ASK YOU FOR ADDITIONAL DEPOSIT. AND THAT IS SO TRUE. AND I KNOW THEY ALSO ASK THAT YOU DO THE DIRECT THING STRAIGHT TO YOUR BANK. SO I AGREE WITH THAT. BUT I ONLY WILL COSIGN IF THE IF THE CONSTITUENTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OR NOT, IF THEY DON'T TAKE IT, BUT THEY AT LEAST HAVE THE COMMUNICATION THAT THIS IS WHAT IS COMING. IT'S COMING NOW. THE ADDITIONAL FEES WILL, WILL, WILL COME INTO PLAY IF THESE THINGS HERE ARE NOT DONE. WHEN YOU FIRST SAID IT, IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE IT SOUNDED LIKE $35 RIGHT OFF THE RIP. THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDED LIKE. NOW YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE EXPLAINING BETTER THAT THOSE ARE. NOW TELL ME IF I'M RIGHT OR WRONG. THOSE ADDITIONAL LATE FEE WILL LATE FEE GO DIRECTLY TO $35. THAT IS THAT RIGHT OR WRONG. THAT. THAT'S RIGHT. SO OKAY NOW THE BANK ONLY CHARGES 25. WELL BUT THE STORE CHARGES YOU WHAT THE WHO WHAT? THE STORE ALSO CHARGES YOU BESIDES THE BANK. OKAY, OKAY. SO AND I GET THAT WE, WE DO NOT WANT TO OVERTAX THE 1400. THE OTHER ■14D IF WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, AS THE COUNCIL HAVE DONE DUE DILIGENCE TO SAY, HEY, GUYS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY YOUR BILLS. OKAY. SO BUT IF YOU ARE BECOMING A HABITUAL OFFENDER, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS NOW. I WILL ONLY GO WITH ALONG WITH THAT IF WE PUT THAT VERBIAGE OUT THERE, THAT COMMUNICATION IS FOR EVERYBODY. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE I THINK YES, MA'AM. I'M SORRY I CAME UP WITH A GOOD IDEA. SO SORRY. OH MY GOD, WE GOT TO HAVE A LITTLE FUN. OKAY. ROBOCALLS DO WE HAVE THAT? LIKE THE THAT WE CAN SEND OUT TO THOSE 406 HUNDRED RATEPAYERS? HEY, I MEAN, WE HAVE, I THINK FROM. I CAN SEE IT. NO, NOT IF YOU SEND IT. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEND IT TO ALL OF THE RESIDENTS. YEAH. SO YOU CAN SEND IT TO ALL THE RESIDENTS. YEAH YEAH. IT HELPS WITH THE COMMUNICATION. I KNOW WE PUT NEWS BLASTS OUT ABOUT PAYMENT, DUE DATE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, I SEE IT ON FACEBOOK. I DO SEE THAT. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CALLS, BUT I KNOW THAT WE DO DO THAT. YEAH, I KNOW THEY DO. THE EMAILS. EVERYBODY READS TEXT MESSAGE. YEAH, YEAH.AND ENGLISH SPANISH IS A REAL PROBLEM. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, THE SYSTEM THAT'S COMING IN THAT'S GREAT AND WONDERFUL. WOULD THAT HAVE AN OPTION ON IT I YEAH I KNOW IT HAS EMAIL CAPABILITIES. I ACTUALLY ASKED THAT QUESTION THE OTHER DAY ABOUT TEXT MESSAGING. I'M NOT SURE IT HAS TEXTING CAPABILITY AT THIS TIME. IT'S IN DEVELOPMENT. BUT, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO CALLS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WE CERTAINLY DO, PARTICULARLY WITH LATE CUSTOMERS. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO BLOCK THAT OUT. THEY DO. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK I SEE, COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAOLO'S HAND U. YES YOU DO. OH YEAH, I THINK I THINK AS A COUNCIL, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO ALL OF THE RESIDENTS OF INDIAN TOWN. AND I THINK IF WE NOTIFY AND YOU PUT IN SPANISH AND IN ENGLISH IN THEIR BILLS FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, THAT THESE ARE WHAT THESE FEES ARE GOING TO GO TO IF YOU FAIL TO PAY OR BOUNCE A CHECK OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO MAKE THEM PAY. YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A DETERRENT, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S COST ME AN EXTRA FIVE BUCKS. OH, WHAT THE HELL? I'LL JUST WAIT AND PAY IT NEXT WEEK. YOU KNOW, MEANTIME, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SITTING HERE STRUGGLING WITH BUDGETS AND CASH FLOWS AND THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. AND WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY. AND IT'S
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BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. THIS IS PAINFUL. IT'S PAINFUL FOR ME.IT'S PAINFUL FOR I KNOW IT'S PAINFUL FOR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL. AND IT'S GOING TO BE A BITTER PILL FOR THE RESIDENTS. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD IN THIS VILLAGE AND GIVE CLEAN WATER AND HAVE A VIABLE SEWER SYSTEM AND REPLACE ONE DAY THE PIPES THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED, IT'S GOING TO TAKE MONEY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE INVESTMENTS. THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO INVEST IN THAT. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. AND WE'RE 4 OR 5 YEARS BEHIND THE CURVE. WE'RE FIVE YEARS BEHIND THE BALL. AND I SAID IT WHEN WE GOT WHEN I GOT MY IN MY CAMPAIGN TWO YEARS AND TWO YEARS AGO. BUT YEAH, WE GOT A PARTNER, WE BOUGHT A WATER PLAN. WE BOUGHT A CADILLAC ON THE BACK OF A TOW TRUCK HEADING FOR THE JUNKYARD, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE MONEY TO GET IT RIGHT, BUT WE HAVE NO OPTION OTHER THAN TO GET IT RIGHT. THERE IS NO NO SECOND OPTION. WE HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT, AND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO AND GET THE GRANTS THAT WE NEED TO GET. AND THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IS TO BE ABLE TO MATCH THINGS. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION AGAIN. AND WHAT IS THAT? WHAT IS THAT MOTION TO PASS? THE ORDINANCE AS IT SITS. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND. OKAY. SEEING NONE THAT MOTION DIES. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER MOTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE? ABSOLUTELY.
YES, MA'AM. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE THAT WE WILL ACCEPT THIS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WOULD BE A MEETING AND IT WOULD THE COMMUNICATION WOULD GO OUT IN CREOLE, SPANISH AND ENGLISH. WE HAVEN'T BEEN I'M SORRY. WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO TRANSLATE CREOLE.
WE HAVE CREOLE THAT WE CAN WRITE, DON'T WE? DON'T DO. THAT HERE. I'M SURE. OKAY. NO, SHE'S TELLING ME IT'S POSSIBLE. I DIDN'T REALIZE. I KNOW IN IN HOUSE WE CURRENTLY USE IN-HOUSE STAFF FOR THE SPANISH. WE WE HAVE WE HAVE CAPABILITY OF BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE A CREOLE TRANSLATOR. OKAY YEAH. WE CAN'T FORGET ABOUT OUR CREOLE POPULATION. NO, I UNDERSTAND I GOT YOU OKAY. SO GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT. SO YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION THAT THIS INFORMATION GOES OUT IN THOSE THREE LANGUAGES IN THE BILL AND A NOTIFICATION IN THE BILL THAT WE'RE HAVING A WORKSHOP FOR THIS. YES. WHATEVER MODE. OKAY. SO WE'RE HAVING THE INFORMATION GO IN THE BILL ABOUT THE INCREASE AND ALSO ABOUT A WORKSHOP REGARDING THE INCREASE.
AM I HEARING THAT CORRECTLY? YES MA'AM. IS THAT DOABLE? BUT WAIT, YOU'RE APPROVING THIS? NO, NO.
HANG ON. WELL HANG ON, WE GOT TO GET A MOTION FIRST. YOU'LL YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE. YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE. AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH WITH THE INCREASES AND EVERYTHING. NOT NECESSARILY.
NO. BECAUSE WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS IT'S GOING TO GO UP AND EVERYTHING. AND THE ONLY THING IS GOING TO BE IF THE INFORMATION IS OKAY, HANG ON. JUST HANG ON. IF A MOTION IS MADE AND IT'S SECONDED, EVERYBODY GETS THE CHANCE TO AIR YOUR WHATEVER. AND THEN ONCE THAT HAPPENS IT DOESN'T HAVE TO PASS. IT'S GOING TO GO TO IT'S GOING TO GO TO A MOTION AND THE, THE ARGUMENTS COULD BE SO COMPELLING THAT, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PASS IT LIKE THAT.
LET'S CHANGE IT UP. SO IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC DONE DEAL. IT'S JUST ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDERS.
AND THIS IS JUST AM I WRONG IN THAT? MR. VILLAGE ATTORNEY, CAN YOU CLARIFY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION? I WAS I WAS GOING TO JUMP IN AND ASK BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER I, I THOUGHT I HEARD IN THERE, PLEASE LET US KNOW, I THOUGHT I HEARD IN THERE YOU SAYING THE COUNCIL APPROVED THIS AND PUT OUT NOTICE AND, HAVE A WORKSHOP TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. WELL, LET ME LET ME BE CLEAR. I WANT I WANT THE I WANT THE INFORMATION TO GO OUT BEFORE THERE'S ANY APPROVAL. MAYBE I SET THAT WRONG. RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WANTED.
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FORGIVE ME, MR. PACHECO. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, VILLAGE. SO? SO IT WOULD BE SO YOU'RE ASKING THAT A, ANOTHER NOTICE BE PUT OUT IN THE WATER BILLS CONCERNING IT. AND WITH THAT, THAT A WORKSHOP BE HELD ABOUT IT, BEFORE THEN, I, I GUESS BRINGING IT BACK FOR APPROVAL AGAIN. YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO HELP CLARIFY WHAT THE MOTION WAS, SO.OKAY. EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT? YES. AND I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. OKAY OKAY. SO A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER AND THERE HAS BEEN A SECOND. SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. YES OKAY. READY? WE'RE READY. WAIT A MINUTE. YOU'RE GOING TO OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? YES OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING FOR A VOTE. I APOLOGIZE, ALL RIGHT? NO, NO, I'M. I'M LOOKING, I'M LOOKING. SHE'S GOT A ROSENDO PACHECO. AND WAITING FOR ME. OH. THREE MINUTES. THE THING IS, I LIKE HISTORY. I STUDIED HISTORY, AND CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIC, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, RESCIND THE PACHECO. THE THING IS, YOU KNOW, I'M A HISTORY BUFF, AND THE COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON THIS. NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. AND WE HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I GOT THE NOTICE. I'M NEVER LATE, SO I'M NOT ONE OF THEM. BUT JUST BECAUSE I'M NOT LATE, I DON'T WANT TO PUNISH EVERYBODY ELSE. I DON'T KNOW THEIR SITUATIONS. SO THERE'S NO PROBLEM FOR ME. BUT I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO BE REPRESENTED. NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. OKAY, WE GOT THAT CLEAR, THE OTHER THING IS IN SPANISH, IT'S UN PASO DE AGUA DE AGUA. SO IT'S JUST GOING FROM 5 TO 35. IT'S LIKE BOOM, YOU'RE SCARING PEOPLE LIKE BAM, YOU KNOW, YOU GO AND BUY A BURGER TODAY FOR A DOLLAR AND TOMORROW IT'S $20. IT'S LIKE, HEY, OKAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO GO TO $35, WE NEED A GRACE PERIOD. YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH. YOU CANNOT HAVE, $35 AND NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE AT LEAST THREE DAYS TO CATCH YOURSELF UP. YOU CAN'T PUNISH A PERSON. DOUBLE. THAT'S DOUBLE JEOPARDY. YOU CAN'T HIT THEM TWICE. I'M JUST SAYING I PAY MY BILL, SO I'M NOT WORRYING. I'M JUST SAYING WHAT'S FAIR IS FAIR. I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR FAIR. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO UP 35, GIVE THEM THREE DAYS, FOUR DAYS GRACE PERIOD. BUT YOU CAN'T PUNISH A PERSON TWICE. AND I'M GLAD THAT WE GOT THIS CLEAR. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT. AND I UNDERSTAND IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO COME AND EVERYTHING AND NOBODY TAKES CARE OF THEIR BILLS OR WHATEVER, AND THEN AND THE COUNCIL GIVES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND VOICE THEIR OPINION. AND IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP, THEN HIT THEM. THAT'S LIKE I TELL THE GIRLS, YOU DON'T WANT TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, AND RUNNING, WE'RE GOING TO RUN. BUT YOU'VE BEEN WARNED, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO HIT YOU WITH TWO PENALTIES. YOU GOT TO BE FAIR. SO THAT'S THAT'S MY THAT'S MY HONEST OPINION. AND I'M GLAD I'M HERE BECAUSE I WAS SCARED THAT IT WAS GOING TO PASS WITHOUT BEING REPRESENTED. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY MISS LINDA, I KNEW THAT SHE WAS GOING TO ROLL AT SOME. WU. WELL, I THINK TONIGHT'S THE FIRST NIGHT LINDA AND I COME FOR THE RECORD, THAT I'VE AGREED WITH CARMINE. WHAT? CARMINE HAS SAID FOR QUITE A WHILE. THE WATER PLANT AND INDIAN TOWN ARE GOING THROUGH GROWING PAINS. WE KNEW THAT WHEN WE BOUGHT THE DILAPIDATED, WATER PLANT THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT BIG MONEY INTO IT. WE ARE NOT EARNING ENOUGH MONEY TO MAKE THOSE NECESSARY CHANGES. WE NEED THE INCREASED INCOME TO COVER OUR OPERATING COSTS. THE NEW CONSTRUCTION. THERE WAS TALK ABOUT A MAJOR WATER LINE THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, AND THERE'S NO FUNDING FOR IT NOW THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CUT OFF HALF OF THE VILLAGE OF HAVING WATER. IF THAT OLD PIPE THAT'S 100 YEARS OLD DECIDES TO BREAK, WE NEED THE EXTRA MONEY, EVEN IF IT'S PUT INTO RESERVES RIGHT NOW TO PAY FOR THESE UPCOMING CHARGES. WE'RE PROTECTING THE VILLAGE IN MANY WAYS. LITTLE NOTES THAT I'VE MADE LATE PAYMENTS. YOU MAKE A CHOICE WHEN YOU DECIDE WHICH BILL YOU'RE GOING TO PAY LATE. MORE THAN
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LIKELY, YOUR PHONE BILL IS GOING TO COME FIRST INSTEAD OF YOUR WATER. AND WHO THINKS ABOUT THA? THIS ISN'T TAXATION ROAD. THIS IS JUST PAYING FOR WHAT YOU'RE GETTING, THIS INCREASE WAS PROPOSED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS PUBLICIZED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, BUT I DO REMEMBER THE TALK ABOUT THE INCREASED RATES. I WOULD SAY AT LEAST THREE MONTHS AGO THAT THAT THESE THINGS WERE GOING UP THE IDEA OF HAVING TO SEND OUT REMINDERS TO THOSE THAT ARE PAST DUE, WHETHER IT'S BY WAY OF A PHONE, BY EMAILS, BY LETTERS, BY PHONE CALLS, ALL ADDS UP TO EXTRA ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, IT'S MAYBE LIKE A CHILD, YOU HAVE TO TEACH THEM THE CONSEQUENCES OF DOING SOMETHING WRONG OR NOT ALLOWED, YOU PAY THAT $35 FEE ONCE YOU'RE MORE THAN LIKELY GOING TO BE ON TIME NEXT MONTH. I THINK THAT TAKES CARE OF IT. THANKS. THANK YOU, MISS KIMBERLY JACKSON BROW. KIMBERLY JACKSON BROWN, I AGREE WITH MR. PACHECO HERE, BUT HE WAS SAYING THAT IT'S A DOUBLE JEOPARDY. I SAID IT'S A TRIPLE JEOPARDY. WE ALREADY CAN'T DRINK THE WATER, AND WE'RE BUYING BOTTLED WATER. I'VE BEEN DRINKING WATER. BOTTLED WATER SINCE I WAS KNEE HIGH TO A DUCK. SO WE GOTTA ALREADY HAVE TO BUY BOTTLED WATER BECAUSE WE CAN'T DRINK THE WATER. AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US SOME EXTRA FEES ON TOP OF US ALREADY PAYING EXTRA FEES AT THE STORE TO BUY WATER. I GOT SOMEBODY TO GO THROUGH A CASE OF WATER IN TWO DAYS. SO GUESS WHAT? WE'RE PAYING EXTRA BILL. YOU GO UP ON THE BILL. WE STILL GOT ABOUT A BOTTLE OF WATER. THEN WE STILL ARE PAYING $35. THEN WE STILL GOT THESE EXTRA DEPOSITS SOMEWHERE. IT HAS TO BE A GIVE AND TAKE. SO WHEN YOU PUNISH YOUR CHILD, YOU DON'T BEAT YOUR CHILD TO DEATH. YOU PUNISH THEM LIGHTLY. AND THEN YOU HOPEFULLY TRAIN THEM TO MOVE FORWARD AND MOVE ON. YOU DON'T BEAT THEM TO DEATH. AND THIS IS KIND OF LIKE BEATING THEM TO DEATH. AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE I TAKE CARE OF BOTH OF MY PARENTS THAT LIVE ON A FIXED INCOME, $35 EVERY MONTH, AND THEY MORE THAN LIKELY I KNOW ONE OF THEM IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE LATE EVERY MONTH. THEN YOU GOT AN EXTRA DEPOSIT ON TOP OF THAT. THAT'S RIDICULOUS. AND WE BUY THAT WATER. I'M STUCK ON THAT WATER THAT WE ALREADY BUYING BECAUSE WE CAN'T DRINK THIS WATER. I GOT A POT AT HOME.I CAN GO GET IT AND BRING IT TO YOU AND SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE. AFTER YOU BOIL THE WATER FROM HERE. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO KILL US. WE'RE GOING TO KILL THE BABY. OR ARE WE GOING TO SPANK THE BABY AND TELL THE BABY HOW TO DO THINGS RIGHT? AND THEN MR. NARKOM JUST TALKED ABOUT THE EXTRA MONEY. WHAT IF EVERYBODY JUST DECIDED, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO PAY OUR BILL ON TIME NOW, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GET YOUR EXTRA MONEY FROM? WE'RE GOING TO GET BEAT UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE.
WE'RE GOING TO FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO BEAT US UP WITH. THAT'S JUST MY $0.02. THANK YOU. MISS.
MISS CAROLYN PARKER. OH, CAROLYN PARKER, YOU'RE GOING UP ON THE RENT. I MEAN, ON THE WATER, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IF MY MOM CALLED UP HERE AT 92 YEARS OLD AND SAID, I LOST MY BANK CARD, THIS IS MY NUMBER BECAUSE SHE NO LONGER DRIVES. PLEASE DON'T CUT HER WATER OFF NEXT MONTH BECAUSE YOUR PERSON DID NOT TAKE HER NUMBER DOWN AND SHE IS ON AUTO PAY. THANK YOU. OH, CUT THAT GRASS OUT THERE WITH Y'ALL AND PUT ALL THEM SWEARS AND BOOK A PARK. WE HAVE SNAKES AND MOCCASINS AND LITTLE CHILDREN. PLEASE THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IN DEFENSE OF THE WATER THAT WE HAVE NOW, I HAVE A GLASS OF THE, OUR OUR WATER THAT COMES OUT OF THE TAP AT EVERY MEETING BECAUSE OF THE PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE PUT IN PLACE, THAT IT'S DRINKABLE. OKAY. WELL, I GUESS THAT'S A YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS. YOU CAN TALK TO MR. NOLAN AND THIS WATER THAT COMES OUT OF THE TAP THAT I DRINK IS JUST AS CLEAR. AND IT'S GOOD. I'M JUST I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S THAT'S MY EXPERIENCE. SO. YES
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MA'AM. SO THE DUE DATE, WHO DECIDED FOR IT TO BE THE 20TH? I MEAN, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN MODIFY IT OR, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE FEES, JUST, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES IT 20TH. IT MADE ME MOVE IT TO THE 25TH TO 30TH JUST TO MAKE IT MEN'S EAT. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING. YOU MAY NOT SEE IT, SUSAN, BUT I SEE IT FIRSTHAND IN MY COMMUNITY. I'M OUT THERE PEOPLE ASKING FOR FOOD. PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR MONEY. IT'S A TOUGH WORLD. YOU KNOW ME, I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I BUT HERE'S THE THING, OKAY? IF YOU JUST CHANGE IT, YOU'RE JUST YOU'RE NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM. YOU'RE NOT HELPING THE PROBLEM. AND IT IS. IT IS AN ISSUE. AND YES, I AGREE, THERE IS. BUT THERE'S WAYS TO SOLVE. YOU'RE NOT BEATING A BABY TO DEATH THERE. THERE ARE WAYS LIKE FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT. THIS IS A BUSINESS. THIS IS A UTILITY.IT'S NOT A NONPROFIT. I GET IT, BELIEVE ME, I HAVE PARENTS THAT OKAY, THEY'RE LATE, I GET IT.
BUT I GUARANTEE YOU, ONCE THEY'VE BEEN HIT WITH THAT LATE FEE, IT IS AMAZING HOW THEY'RE NOT LATE ANYMORE. THEY MAKE AN EFFORT BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT HURTS. IT HURTS THAT WHAT THEY'RE HAVING TO PAY. BUT IT HURTS EVEN WORSE WHEN THEY'VE GOT TO PAY MORE. I GET IT, IT IS A HARD, HARD SITUATION AND BELIEVE ME, I'M NOT HEARTLESS BECAUSE I'M ONE OF THOSE ONES WITH FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT THAT'S HAD TO PAY AN EXTRA DEPOSIT. THAT HAS BEEN LATE.
BELIEVE ME, I KNOW. HOWEVER, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO EVERYONE IN THE VILLAGE AND LIKE I'VE SAID BEFORE, WHEN WE HAVE GOTTEN BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL BECAUSE WE'VE PUT IT OFF. OKAY, WELL WE DIDN'T AS FAR AS THE MILLAGE RATE OKAY. NO, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE IT'S EASY ON THE PEOPLE, BUT IT'S GOTTEN US IN TROUBLE. AND IT'S LIKE THE RATES, IT'S GOTTEN US IN TROUBLE. YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE CAN WE CAN MODIFY WE CAN AND IT'S JUST WE'RE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND IT'S GOING TO BITE US IN THE BUTT. SO I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION TO DO A MEETING AND PUT INFORMATION IN THE BILLS. AM I RIGHT ABOUT THAT MOTION? YES I HEARD YEAH. AND SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND WITH THAT, IN ORDER TO HAVE THIS MEETING TONIGHT, THESE RATES HAD TO BE PUT IN THE BILLS PREVIOUSLY. AND GIVE NOTICE OF THIS MEETING SO FOLKS COULD BE HERE AND RAISE CONCERNS AND SO ON, TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING IN THE FUTURE TO CONSIDER THIS, WE'LL NEED TO DO THAT AGAIN. SO WE'VE GOT TO DO IT ANYWAYS PURSUANT TO THE STATUTE. SO WE'LL BE, PUTTING THAT IN FOR THAT. THE ADDITIONAL PIECE I HEARD IN THE MOTION IS THAT I WOULD IMAGINE PRIOR TO THAT NEW RATE HEARING, IF YOU WILL, AFTER WE'VE GIVEN THE NOTICE FOR IT AND SO ON, HAVING A WORKSHOP WHERE, WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE TOLD TO THE WORLD, HEY, COME TALK TO US ABOUT THESE THINGS. SO, SO I UNDERSTAND. SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN PUT IN THEIR BILL ONCE ABOUT THIS RATE HEARING. YES MA'AM. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN A RATE HEARING AND A WORKSHOP. THAT'S WHAT I HEAR IN THE MOTION OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT'LL BE TWO RATE HEARINGS AND A WORKSHOP. AND WE STILL HAVE NOT COME TO A DETERMINATION EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO. WE'LL DO THAT AT AT THE DATE IN THE FUTURE AFTER WE GET THROUGH WITH THESE. IF THIS MOTION PASSES, YOU'LL BE HAVING ANOTHER RATE HEARING ON THESE, ON THESE SERVICE CHARGES. MR. VILLAGE ATTORNEY, CAN I JUST CLARIFY THE WORKSHOP WILL BE BEFORE THE HEARING. CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. OKAY. YEAH YEAH. ON A SATURDAY IS WHAT I'VE. I THINK WAS IN THE MOTION SATURDAY. IT WOULD BE HERE. 700 PEOPLE. IT BECOMES 700 PEOPLE. SO WAIT.
THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. I WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY THRILLED IF WE HAD 700 PEOPLE. THE ONE THEY DON'T PAY THE BILLS AND THEY NEVER WANT TO SEE IT. THEY KNOW TO KNOW THAT HE'S GOING TO SHOW UP.
WELL, WE CAN ONLY DO WHAT WE CAN DO. WE CAN JUST TRY OUR BEST AND THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT THAT MOTION IS. WE HAVE A SECOND. IS EVERYBODY DONE WITH COMMENTS ALL IN FAVOR. AYE AYE. ALL OPPOSED. SEEING NONE PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY.
THAT WAS NUMBER SIX. ARE WE ON TO NUMBER SEVEN? YES, MAYOR. AND I'LL BE MIGRANTS. ALL RIGHT.
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OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, ADOPTING CERTAIN POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO RESOLUTIONS. THIS IS EFFECTIVELY JUST, CLEAN UP PAPERWORK. IF YOU WILL. THIS IS RELATING, AS MIKE INDICATED, FOR THE ADOPTION OF CERTAIN POLICIES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY CDBG, REGULATIONS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, ACTUALLY, WHEN, THE CDBG HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT WAS AWARDED THE COUNCIL ADOPTED POLICIES. BACK THEN, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IN ITS WISDOM, HAS LAYERED ON EVEN MORE THAT ARE REQUIRED. SO THESE ARE IN THIS RESOLUTION FOR ADDITIONAL POLICIES. THESE POLICIES HAVE BEEN REVIEWED, WORKED ON AND APPROVED BY MY OFFICE AND WORKED ON WITH MIKE.SO THESE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE REQUIREMENTS. AND, NOTHING INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT PRACTICE WOULD BE IN THE VILLAGE IN ANY EVENT, THIS IT'S ADOPTING A AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT POLICY AND ANTI FRAUD, WASTE AND ABUSE POLICY, A FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT POLICY AND A QUALITY ASSURANCE AND QUALITY CONTROL POLICY. SO WITH THAT, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THESE FOUR POLICIES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTION HAD BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE PASSED UNANIMOUSL.
AND THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL GO AHEAD AND HANDLE THIS LAST RESOLUTION AS WELL. ITEM EIGHT,
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A RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA UPDATING AND SUPPLEMENTING THE VILLAGE’S POLICY FOR THE PROTECTION OF INDIVIDUALS ENGAGING IN NON-VIOLENT CIVIL RIGHTS DEMONSTRATIONS, REPEALING ALL RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
]RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, UPDATING AND SUPPLEMENTING THE VILLAGE'S POLICY FOR THE PROTECTION OF INDIVIDUALS ENGAGING IN NONVIOLENT CIVIL RIGHTS DEMONSTRATIONS, REPEALING ALL RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS A RESOLUTION. SIMILARLY ADOPTING ANOTHER POLICY REQUIRED BY CDBG. REQUIRED BY CDBG GRANT REQUIREMENTS RELATING TO THE PROTECTION OF INDIVIDUALS ENGAGING IN NONVIOLENT CIVIL RIGHTS DEMONSTRATIONS. THE COUNCIL HAD ALSO PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED A POLICY ALONG THESE LINES. PREVIOUSLY, THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE LAYERED IN AND ALONG WITH THAT, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THERE WAS, THE VILLAGE DOES NOT HAVE ITS OWN LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, THERE WAS A LITTLE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE GRANT COMPLIANCE FOLKS, INQUIRING WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS REQUIRED SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECT CONTROL OVER LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES. NEVERTHELESS THEY WANTED IT FOR THEIR FILE. SO THIS IS EFFECTIVELY ADOPTING THE MARTIN COUNTY, POLICY ON THE SAME SUBJECT, WHICH THE MARTIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS ADOPTED. SO WITH THAT, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF THIS RESOLUTION AS WELL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, MR. MOSS COULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY WHAT DOES C B D G STAND FOR SUR? CDBG IS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT. SO IT'S YEAH, IT'S, I THINK IT'S ULTIMATELY MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND IRONICALLY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S CALLED A BLOCK GRANT THAT USED TO DECADES AGO MEAN THEY WOULD JUST GIVE BIG BUCKS, BUCKETS OF MONEY WITHOUT ANY STRINGS, RIGHT? NO. IRONICALLY, THIS HAS BEEN BECOME ONE OF THE TYPES OF FUNDS THAT COMES WITH THE MOST STRINGS. IN ANY EVENT, THIS IS THIS IS WHAT'S BEFORE YOU AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THAT'S ASTERN. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION? NO, MA'AM. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. PASSED[9.
Provide Direction to Staff on Special Event Application Process
]UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. WE'RE ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE. YES MA'AM. YOUR LAST ITEM, I PUT THIS ON BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WHEN YOU HAD A SPECIAL MEETING TO DISCUSS, HOW YOU WERE GOING TO PROCEED RELATIVE TO SPECIAL EVENTS. AND AT THAT TIME, PARTICULARLY THE SWAMP FEST, WE WERE ASKED TO. AND THEN THE BLACK HERITAGE FESTIVAL CAME UP AND THE COUNCIL ASKED STAFF TO SEE IF THE CITIZENS, THE CONCERNED CITIZENS FOR BOOKER PARK, WOULD BE WILLING TO PARTNER WITH THE VILLAGE AND HAVE A JOINT EVENT. AND WE DID DO THAT. AND THEY HAVE INDICATED[03:30:03]
THEY DO NOT WANT TO DO THAT. SO I THINK SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECTION FOLLOWING THAT. SINCE THAT I DID THIS ITEM. I ALSO FOUND IN THE ELDERS, AS I WAS LOOKING AT THEM, THAT THERE'S LGR 3-5.27. EXCUSE ME 3-5.72. SEE EACH APPLICATION WILL BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED OR DENIED BY THE DIRECTOR BASED UPON THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA. AND THEY LIST MORE THAN TEN THINGS. BUT THE THREE THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE I BELIEVE IN THIS CASE IS ADEQUATE SUPPORT FACILITIES ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE EVENT WITH THE SUPPORT FACILITIES INCLUDING BUT NOT BEING LIMITED TO, PARKING, REFUSE COLLECTION, SANITATION, LIGHTING AND SECURITY. THE EVENT WILL NOT RESULT IN THE OVERUTILIZATION OF VILLAGE FACILITIES AND TEN. THE APPLICANT COMPLIED WITH TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF ANY PREVIOUSLY GRANTED PERMITS. SO IN CONSULTATION WITH STAFF, WE JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE DIRECTOR COULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND IT WOULD STILL NEED TO COME TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. THE ELDERS ARE CONFLICTING. IT STILL HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL IF THERE'S AMPLIFIED MUSIC OR ALCOHOL, AND THE PARKING IS STILL AN ISSUE.SO THEN I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHERE YOU WANTED TO GO WITH IT. SINCE THE AMPLIFIED MUSIC IS THAT AFTER A CERTAIN TIME, I MEAN, IS IT JUST SAY AMPLIFIED MUSIC? IT JUST SAYS AMPLIFIED MUSIC. IT'S WELL, THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE I HAVE ANOTHER GUY GET ON RECORD, PLEASE. I'M SORRY IT'S LATE, GUYS. DEBBIE RECESS. FOR THE RECORD, I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER EVENT FOR A SMALL WEDDING THAT WANTS TO BE HELD AT POST FAMILY. TO ME, IT SHOULD BE FAIRLY SIMPLE, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING AMPLIFIED MUSIC AND OFF SITE PARKING, IT'S GOING TO BE A SPECIAL EVENT THAT HAS TO COME IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. BASED ON THE ELDERS. OKAY, EVERYBODY GETS TREATED THE SAME. I GOT IT FROM THE ELDERS. WELL, IT'S INTERESTING. AND I MAKE THIS COMMENT EVERY SO OFTEN THAT WE'RE STILL WE'RE STILL DOING FIRSTS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE ELDERS, ONCE WE START USING THEM AND GOING THROUGH THEM, WE FIND THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED, WHICH WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND TRYING TO DO CURRENTLY. SO IT'S JUST AN ONGOING PROCESS. OKAY, SO. PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF FOR THE APPLICATION THAT HAS BEEN HAS THERE BEEN AN APPLICATION? OKAY. SO THE DIRECTION WAS WORK TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT COULD. AND SO THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. CORRECT OKAY. SO WHAT'S WHAT'S WHAT IS HAPPENING. WHAT IS THE NEXT NEXT THING. SO HAS THERE BEEN AN APPLICATION SUBMITTED FOR THAT. THERE HAS BEEN YES. AGAIN DEBBIE. RECESS FOR THE RECORD. YES, KIMBERLY JACKSON DID COME IN WITH DARRELL AND SUBMIT ANOTHER APPLICATION DURING THAT APPLICATION PROCESS, THEY INDICATED THAT THEY WERE NO LONGER GOING TO BE USING OFF SITE PARKING. THEY WANTED TO PARK IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. I CONTACTED TARYN AND CODE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE PARKING REGULATIONS FOR THE IN THE LDR AND ASKED FOR THEIR GUIDANCE AND WAS TOLD THAT STATE STATUTES SAID THAT THAT WAS NOT ALLOWED BECAUSE IT HINDERS TRAFFIC. OKAY, SO THAT STATE STATUTE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH OUR ELDERS, THAT I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD HAVE. I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME. I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY NOTES. OKAY OKAY. SO PART WELL NOW. OKAY IT IT WOULD BE AN OVER UTILIZATION OF THE FACILITY. SO IT'S COMING. IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO NOT APPROVE IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A SMALL PARKING LOT. WE HAVE PARKING FOR 12. I DON'T HAVE PARKING FOR 200 PLUS PEOPLE TO COME TO THE FACILITY. OKAY. AND BASED ON THE EVENT THAT HAPPENED PRIOR, THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES OF THEIR PERMIT. SO AM I UP AGAINST THE SAME THING? RIGHT OKAY. MR. ROSE, DO WE HAVE CLARIFICATION ON STATE STATUTE? I THINK IT'S I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT I MEAN, JUST IN
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EVERYDAY LIFE, NOT EVEN A SPECIAL EVENT. YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK ON AN EASEMENT BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE GOT PEOPLE COMPLAINING TO ME ABOUT HOW THEIR NEIGHBORS PARKING ON THE EASEMENT AND BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK, AN ORDINANCE I'M NOT. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY I'M NOT PARTICULARLY I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH PARTICULAR STATE STATUTE. OKAY. TO THIS POINT, BUT. WELL IT'S I'M SORRY. YEAH, I THINK IT'S CHAPTER 17 IN A COUNTY ORDINANCE. YEAH. THEY USE COUNTY BECAUSE OURS IS SILENT AS I UNDERSTAND IT. CODE ENFORCEMENT USES THE COUNTY'S, WHEN WE ARE SITING. WE JUST HAD SPECIAL MAGISTRATE ON TUESDAY AND WE HAD TWO RESIDENCES OWNED BY THE SAME PERSON, BUT TWO DIFFERENT RESIDENCES THAT WERE CITED AND HAD TO PAY FINES FOR PARKING, CONSISTENTLY PARKING THEIR TRUCKS ON THE SIDEWALK RIGHT AND IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. RIGHT. AND THEN THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT THE SIDEWALK BEING BROKEN AND IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE TRUCK. OKAY OKAY. SO YEAH, I YEAH, I KNOW THAT THAT'S AND THAT IS AN ISSUE BECAUSE I HAD SOMEBODY TALKING TO ME TODAY ABOUT THAT AND THEIR NEIGHBOR. SO PARKING AND BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK. YES, MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, SO WHAT IS TECHNICALLY THE RIGHT OF WAY? BECAUSE BECAUSE THE THING IS, LET ME, SANDY OAKS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE GO THERE RIGHT NOW, AND THEY ALL PARK IN THAT LITTLE GREEN SECTION. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S THE RIGHT OF WAY, BECAUSE THOSE HOUSES, WHENEVER THE COUNTY ISSUED THE, THE, THE, THE BUILDING, THOSE HOUSES ARE SO UP FRONT THAT THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE PARKING. SO IF YOU GO, YOU CAN GO RIGHT NOW AT 10:00 AND YOU'LL SEE A WHOLE LINE GOING STRAIGHT DOWN MY, MY STREET ON THE LEFT SIDE, BECAUSE THE RIGHT SIDE WE HAVE PARKING ON THE LEFT SIDE, THEY HAVE NO PARKING. AND ALL YOU SEE IS CAR AFTER CAR AFTER CAR IN THAT GREEN SECTION BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND, THE. YEAH, THE ROAD. MY COUSIN, SHE HAS THE SAME SITUATION AND WHAT'S IT CALLED? THE COUNTY CAME IN RANDOMLY AND PUT A SIDEWALK IN AND THE SIDEWALK IS LIKE, NOT EVEN FORMALLY STRAIGHT. IT'S LIKE CURVES. RIGHT. AND SHE'S ALSO BEEN ASKED BY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ABOUT NOT PARKING THERE. SO, LIKE, I UNDERSTAND THE BUT HOW CAN WE HELP? LIKE HOW CAN WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN BECOME COME TOGETHER LIKE THE WHOLE FIGHTING SITUATION BETWEEN WHO SAID THIS AND WHO SAID THIS AND WHATEVER, I DON'T CARE ABOUT IT. WHAT I WANT TO DO IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS HAPPEN. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, LET ME SAY WE USED TO HAVE THE MLK EVENT HERE EVERY JANUARY, AND THAT MLK EVENT WASN'T HUGE. YOU HAD A FEW VENDORS, SOME YOU HAD A BOUNCY HOUSE. YOU DIDN'T HAVE PARKING, BUT IT WAS STILL A NICE EVENT TO GO TO. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THE VILLAGE CAN WORK IN TRYING TO GET THE CRA PROPERTY FROM MARTIN COUNTY LIKE A PERMISSION, AND THEY COULD GET THEIR INSURANCE COVERED BY IT. LAST YEAR I DID REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY AND ASK IF WE COULD USE THAT PROPERTY FOR PARKING, AND I WAS TOLD NO. I ASKED IF WE COULD PARK A FIRE TRUCK ON IT BECAUSE THEY HAD TO HAVE THOSE SERVICES AND THEY SAID NO. EVEN IF. OKAY, SO PROBABLY REACHING OUT TO COMMISSIONERS. WELL, I HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH TOO. SO I, I WOULD I WOULD TRY TO DO THAT WHEN I'M OFF THIS COUNCIL. BUT OKAY. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, HOW CAN WE HELP. AND THAT'S WHY WE TRIED TO PARTNER WITH THEM, LET US GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO. BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT. AND THEY TOLD YOU EVERYTHING IS FINE AS LONG AS YOU WORK WITH ME. BUT IF WE DON'T WORK WITH YOU, WE HAVE A COPY OF THIS. THAT'S CRAZY. WE WOULD. WE WOULD COME UP WITH ANOTHER PLACE FOR YOU TO PARK. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. BECAUSE WE CAN DO IT. IF WE WORK WITH YOU, SO CAN. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN? ONCE. ONCE I BECOME A WELL SEE A CIVILIAN, A CIVILIAN. ONCE I BECOME A RESIDENT LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, CAN WE HAVE THAT? SO I COULD BE THE MIDDLE PERSON AND WE CAN HAVE THAT MEETING[03:40:07]
PROBABLY. I THINK IT'S JUST COMING TO AGREEMENT BECAUSE EVERYONE THINKS THAT THE SWAMP FEST IS WHATEVER IS ON THE MAIN, ON THE, ON, ON THE MAIN STREET. AND IT'S NOT IT'S NOT THAT LIKE THIS. I THINK THIS, THIS EVENT IS MORE EXPOSING CULTURAL. AND I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE EVENT. I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH SETTING PRECEDENCE. IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW ONE GROUP TO PARK ON THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEN EVERY TIME SOMEBODY HAS AN EVENT THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO PARK ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THOSE AND PERSONALLY OKAY, WORKING TOGETHER. IT'S NOT SAYING OKAY, IF YOU WORK WITH THEM THEN THAT MAKES IT OKAY. AND THEN APPARENTLY IT'S OKAY TO BEGIN WITH. I THINK WORKING TOGETHER IS TRYING TO THEY KNOW WHAT CAN AND CAN'T BE DONE. SO IF YOU SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO, THEN THEY CAN SAY, OKAY, WELL, WE CAN'T PARK ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING ELSE. THEY KNOW THE LAWS, SO, SO WELL. THAT IDEAL IS WORKING TOGETHER. BUT IF THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, HANG ON. IF THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, THEN I DON'T. WHAT WHAT'S WHAT'S A WAY FORWARD. SO ANY ANY SUGGESTIONS A WAY FORWARD. YEAH I, I, I AGREE THAT, BUT THE ISSUE IS THAT, THAT THERE NEEDS, THERE NEEDS TO BE A COMING TOGETHER. I UNDERSTAND WHAT BOTH PARTIES ARE SAYING. I UNDERSTAND THE TRUST. BUT HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE IS THE THING. HERE IS THE THING. YOU KNOW WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE DONE, RIGHT. OKAY. MOSTLY I HAVE TO LOOK. THERE ARE THERE ARE THINGS I DON'T. WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. THERE ARE THINGS I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. SO I WOULD SUGGEST. THAT COME TO THE MEETING TABLE. WHEN DID Y'ALL DO IT? ON THE EIGHTH. OKAY, THAT WAS THE WORKSHOP. THAT. THAT WAS THE WORK. OKAY, WE GOING TO WE GOING TO DO AN A OKAY. WE GOING TO I'M GOING TO BE AT THAT ONE.WE GOING TO DO ANOTHER MEETING I'LL BE WITH YOU GUYS. I'LL BE I'M GOING TO BE THERE. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER I WON'T BE A COUNCIL MEMBER THEN. SO OKAY, SO ME AND JANET, WE'RE GOING TO SET A MEETING. WE'RE GOING TO COME. Y'ALL BUY ME LUNCH. OKAY. BOTTOM LINE. SO WE'RE GOING TO COME. WE'RENG TO HAVE THIS MEETING AND WE'RE GOING TO COME TO THE TABLE. WE'RE GOING TO RELAX ALL INHIBITION, EVERYTHING RELAXED.
AND WE'RE GOING TO SIT DOWN. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LUNCH OR DINNER TOGETHER. AND WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW IT. WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THEM. WE GOT WE GOT TO MAKE IT WORK, OKAY. AS LONG AS IT DON'T HAVE TO BE MOVED. THE TIME OF PROBLEM, OKAY. BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT COACHING THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING OKAY. NOW HERE'S THE THING, MISS PARKER. THIS IS NOT ABOUT SWAMPFEST. OKAY SO BEFORE WE I WANT I WANT ALL ALL ALL EVERYTHING I WANT ALL THAT RELAXED BECAUSE WE CAN'T TALK IF WE UP. SO WE NEED TO RELAX AND WE GOING TO COME TOGETHER. WHEN WE COME TOGETHER, WE GOING TO COME WITH RELAXATION AND CLEAR MINDS AND HEART. OKAY. WE GOING TO DO THAT. I'M GOING TO CALL YOU TOMORROW AND I'M GONNA CALL YOU TOMORROW AND I'M CALLING YOU AND JANET. I'M GONNA CALL JANET AND WE GOING TO WE GOING TO MAKE THIS WORK BECAUSE THIS DON'T HAVE TO BE. IT AIN'T GOING TO BE LIKE THIS. NO, WE GOING TO WORK THIS THING AND IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE A TESTIMONY AND A TESTAMENT OF HOW PEOPLE CAN COME TOGETHER. WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. OKAY. AND LET ME JUST AND I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. OKAY. BUT BUT I THINK THE BIGGER PICTURE IS OKAY. BOOKER PARK IS A NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS NOT AN EVENT VENUE. OKAY. AND YOU SAY IT'S OUR CULTURE, I GET IT.
HOWEVER, IF YOU'VE GOT A CHURCH BUILDING RIGHT, AND IT BURNS DOWN AND YOU CAN'T HOLD CHURCH THERE, DO YOU QUIT HAVING CHURCH? IT'S ABOUT THE PEOPLE. IT'S NOT ABOUT WHERE IT'S AT.
IT'S ABOUT THE PEOPLE. AND YOU CAN STILL COME TOGETHER. OKAY. THAT IT. AND THE THING OF IT IS, IS YOU CANNOT HAVE A HUGE VENUE THERE BECAUSE IT JUST WILL NOT SUPPORT IT. IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD WE'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD PERSON HERE, AND I HEAR IT FROM MORE THAN HER. AND NOBODY, NOBODY'S IN HER YARD. NO, HANG ON, HANG ON. LET'S NOT, LET'S NOT LET'S NOT GET DOWN TO LET'S LOOK. OKAY, WE'VE WE'VE GOT A WAY FORWARD. WE'VE GOT A WAY FORWARD. OKAY. SO WHAT? WE'VE GOT A WAY FORWARD. SO YOU GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND AIR IT. HER CHURCHES AND WORK IT. WE GOING TO DO IT. SO OKAY. HIT THE GAVEL. WE'RE DONE WITH THAT ONE OKAY OKAY. LET'S GO. OKAY SO WE GOT A WAY FORWARD ON THAT. YOU GUYS WILL GET TOGETHER TOMORROW ON A DATE AND ALL THAT. OKAY IT'LL HAVE TO BE AFTER THE NEXT MEETING. IT'LL HAVE TO BE AFTER. IT'LL HAVE TO BE AFTER TWO WEEKS. AND SHE'S NOT OUT OF OFFICE UNTIL I'M OFFICIALLY OFF AFTER TONIGHT.
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RIGHT, MR. WAVE? I THOUGHT IT WAS THE NEXT MEETING. WHEN WE GET CERTIFIED, IT'S NOT CERTIFIED. ONCE WE GET CERTIFICATION UNTIL MONDAY. YEAH SO MONDAY, AS OF MONDAY. SO.YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. I WILL BE JANET HERNANDEZ. OKAY? OKAY OH, WELL, WE'RE SURE YOU WANT TO DO COMMENT. WE'VE COMMENTED. WE'VE GOT A WAY FORWARD. OKAY. KIMBERLY JACKSON BROWN OKAY. KIM THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ME. AND THEY ALWAYS COME TO YOU, SIR. OKAY.
THAT MAKES ME ANYBODY BUT KIMBERLY JACKSON BROWN. NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IF I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SO MUCH THROWN OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY ON SOCIAL MEDIA, ABOUT SWAMPS, THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT SWAMPS. WE MOVED ON. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MOVE ON ON THE EIGHTH. WE AT THE BLACK HISTORY FESTIVAL, WHICH IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM SWAMP FEST, RIGHT? WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE'LL HAVE 50 PEOPLE THERE, BECAUSE BLACK HISTORY EVENTS DON'T GENERATE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE. LET'S JUST FACE IT. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LOCAL BLACK HISTORY. NOT ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, JUST LOCAL BLACK HISTORY. SO I DOUBT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 200 CARS. AND THEN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, PARKING ON THE RIGHT OF WAY, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T IMPEDE TRAFFIC, SHOW ME WHERE IT IMPEDED TRAFFIC, BECAUSE, THANKS TO MISS BARBARA CARTER, SHE POSTED A VIDEO SUPPOSEDLY POINTING AT PAINT SWAMP FEST IN SOME NEGATIVE LIGHT, BUT IT SHOWED THE TRAFFIC THAT'S MOVING RIGHT ALONG STREETS. WASN'T EVEN CROWDED. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. SO WHEN YOU SAY IMPEDING TRAFFIC, WHEN DID IT IMPEDE TRAFFIC? AND ALL OF THIS ABOUT VIOLATING THE APPLICATION? FIRST OFF, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAD ALCOHOL ON THERE, AND I STILL SAY THERE WAS NO ALCOHOL THERE. AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT, WELL, WE SPECULATE THAT WELL, THAT DON'T PROVE IT WAS SO WE DIDN'T VIOLATE OUR APPLICATION AT ALL PERIOD. SO NOW WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH BLACK HISTORY? WHAT'S THE PROBLEM. BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT SWAMP FEST ALREADY AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MOVED ON FROM THERE. AND THE LAST TIME WE WAS HERE, WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO SIT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. IF YOU MEET WHAT'S ON THE CHECKLIST, WE'VE DONE THAT. AND NOW WE STILL GETTING MET WITH OPPOSITION.
WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? AND ALL THIS MEETING? WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING TILL THE COWS COME HOME.
BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU TURN AROUND IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER MEETING. NO, WE DON'T WANT TO WORK WITH THEM BECAUSE WE DON'T TRUST THEM. BECAUSE ALL THIS BACK DOOR MESS THAT THEY'RE DOING NOW, EVERY TIME WE DO SOMETHING, THEY COME WITH THEIR BACK DOOR. IT'S TRAFFIC BEING IMPEDED. PROVE IT. PROVE THAT THERE WAS ALCOHOL. PROVE IT. AND THIS LADY HERE, I CAN'T SAY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT. WE PICKED UP THE TRASH AND WE WENT DOWN CHARLESTON. WE DIDN'T SEE NO TRASH THAT FAR. SHE LIVED RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT. WHY WASN'T NOBODY IN HER DRIVEWAY? AND WHY WASN'T NO TRAFFIC THERE? AND THE NUMBERS THAT SHE THREW OUT WERE THE SAME NUMBERS THAT BARBARA KLOTZ PUT ON FACEBOOK. IT'S JUST A WONDER IT'S JUST A WONDER. IF YOU WANT US TO MEET, YOU GOT TO FIRST HAVE TRUST. WE CAN'T TRUST THEM BECAUSE THEY KEEP DOING THE SAME THING TO US OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT. BECAUSE IF THE IF Y'ALL TELLING US THAT Y'ALL BROKE, WE'LL FIND OUT IF YOU BROKE, IF YOU KEEP ON STEPPING ON US LIKE THAT. MR. DARRELL HOLMES. WE HAVE TO FIND IT. PUT YOUR MAN AND GO HOME.
YEAH GO BACK DOWN. WHERE IS YOUR NORMAL? PRETTY NORMAL, DARRELL HOLMES. FOR THE RECORD. I HAVE SAID SOME THINGS ABOUT TEARING. I HAVE SAID SOME THINGS ABOUT SUSAN. I HAVE SAID SOME THINGS ABOUT BARBARA, THE COUNCIL, SOME STUFF I CAN'T EVEN STAND HERE AND SAY I REGRET SAYING BECAUSE I'M REALLY NOT THAT TYPE OF GUY. BUT I DON'T LIKE BEING. ON AND TOLD THAT IT'S WRONG. AT SOME POINT, CAN SOMEBODY IN FREAKING GOVERNMENT POWER JUST BE HONEST AND JUST SAY, LOOK, WE MESSED U, Y'ALL MESSED UP. LET'S OWN IT AND GO FORWARD. LET'S JUST DO THAT, MAN. LIKE, THE MORE WE KEEP THROWING OUT ACCUSATIONS, I GOT PEOPLE LOADING MY INBOX WITH STUFF I'M. I DON'T WANT TO KEEP TOSSING OUT DIRT. I DON'T WANT TO KEEP DOING THAT. BUT LET'S JUST BE HONEST AND SAY, HEY, WE DID SOME STUFF THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT EMOTIONAL ABOUT AS A COUNCIL. WE DIDN'T LIKE IT. WE DIDN'T WANT IT. HERE. YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S OWN THAT AND MOVE FORWARD. I CAN SAY THAT I CAN DO THAT. I WAS WRONG ON SOME STUFF. I CAN STAND HERE AND DO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT AN ADULT
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DOES. THAT'S WHAT A GROWN MAN DOES. BUT Y'ALL GOT TO DO IT TO, MAN. IT CAN'T BE ALL ON US. WHY IS THE ONUS ON SWAMP FEST? WHY IS THE ONUS ON CONCERNED CITIZENS? THERE IS NO ISSUE WITH RIGHT OF WAY PARKING. THERE IS ISSUE WITH IMPEDING TRAFFIC. YES, I CAN GIVE YOU THAT. THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THAT. BUT JUST TO SAY RIGHT OF WAY PARKING, THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH THAT.NOWHERE IN THE FLORIDA STATUTE 316 YOU CAN PARK. YOU CAN LEAVE YOUR CAR FOR 48 HOURS LEGALLY ON RIGHT OF WAY. PARKING HOW DOES ANYBODY KNOW THAT WHEN, WHEN YOU GOT YOUR FINGERTIPS, YOU GOT INFORMATION AT YOUR FINGERTIPS? THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS I DON'T KNOW. AND MISS DEBBIE AND BRIAN, I WISH Y'ALL WERE UP HERE SOMEWHERE BECAUSE Y'ALL WERE SO EASY TO TALK TO AND COME TO TRY AND COME TO A SOLUTION, BUT THERE IN PARKS AND REC, LIKE, WHY HASN'T ANYBODY SAID HOW, HOW DO WE FIX THIS? HOW DO WE FIX THIS? YEAH, Y'ALL DID THIS. WE DID THIS. THEY SAID THIS. HOW BUMP ALL THAT. HOW DO WE FIX IT? THAT'S THE QUESTION. CAN WE FIX IT? I'M WILLING TO FIX IT, KIM.
WILLING TO FIX IT? LORETTA'S WILLING TO FIX IT. NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO WORK WITH ANYBODY OTHER THAN CONCERNED CITIZENS. IF THAT IS A DETERMINED, SO BE IT. BUT THIS IS OUR EVENT. LET'S COME TO A SOLUTION, MAN. LET'S BE SOLUTION ORIENTED. PLEASE. IT'S EXHAUSTING FOR Y'ALL AND FOR ME.
THANK YOU. MISS LAURA HERNANDEZ. GOOD EVENING, LAURA HERNANDEZ. FOR THE RECORD, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT I AM AGREEING WITH MISS KIM. LIKE THERE IS NO TRUST. WHY DIDN'T I VOTE FOR SOMEONE THAT WAS ON THE BALLOT THIS WEEK? THIS PAST WEEK? BECAUSE THEY'VE SHOWN ME THAT THEY SHOULDN'T EARN MY RESPECT. THEY HAVE TO EARN IT. AND THAT'S HOW IT FEELS. I GET WHAT THEY'RE FEELING WITH THE COUNCIL. AND TONIGHT I JUST BECAUSE WE'RE RELATED DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. I'M STANDING AS A PERSON. MISS VERNA PALMER AND JANET HERNANDEZ, LIKE THEY WERE WITH THE COMMUNITY. THEY STOOD UP WITH SAYING LIKE, HEY, NO, LIKE DON'T DO THAT. HOLD ON.
EXPLAIN THIS. LIKE THE QUESTIONS, LIKE EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON, LIKE, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT, BUT WE DON'T TRUST EVERYONE BECAUSE THEY'VE SHOWN US TO NOT TRUST THEM. SO I AGREE WITH CONCERNED CITIZENS FOR BOOKER PARK. LIKE WHY DO THEY WANT IT PUBLIC FOR AUGUST 8TH? BECAUSE THEY WANTED EVERYONE ELSE TO SEE. BECAUSE BEHIND DOORS, PEOPLE SWITCH UP THINGS, POST, COME OUT ON FACEBOOK. SO WHY DO THEY WANT SOMETHING PUBLIC? BECAUSE THEY WANT THE RECORD. AND I GO TO CHURCH RIGHT NEXT TO THE FIELD. I APPLAUD CONCERNED CITIZENS FOR WORK.
THEY WERE ORGANIZED. THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC. BY 10:00, THE NOISE WAS OUT EXACTLY 10:00, AND THEY WERE OUT BY 1015. THE FOLLOWING MORNING. I CAME TO SERVICE. AT 930. I SAW EVERYONE CLEANING UP.
I DIDN'T SEE A MESS. GOOD JOB. LIKE THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL. SO WHAT IS WRONG? LIKE WHAT? DO YOU GUYS NOT WANT THAT THIS IS. THIS IS INDIAN TOWN, BOOKER PARK. LIKE THIS IS THEIR CULTURE. WHY DO YOU WANT TO MOVE IT? LIKE THAT'S WHERE IT'S AT? IF YOU MOVE IT TO TYLER POWERS PARK, IT'S NO LONGER MLK BLACK HISTORY MONTH, LIKE SWAMP FEST. NONE OF THAT. YOU'RE MOVING SOMEONE OUT OF THEIR CULTURE. YOU CAME INTO THE COUNCIL KNOWING THIS IS INDIAN TOWN. WE REPRESENT. THIS IS THE BLACK HISTORY, THE HISPANIC LATINO LIKE THIS IS US. YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE YOUR ELDERS WORK TOGETHER, COMMUNICATE WITH THE VILLAGE. YOU WORK FOR US, NOT US. FOR YOU. THAT IS IT.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ROSENDO PACHECO. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MISTAKEN THINGS GOING ON. SAYING THAT THE FIELDS GOT RUINED AND EVERYTHING. FIRST OF ALL, FROM OUR OWN COUNCILWOMAN SAYING THE FIELDS AIN'T NO GOOD TO BEGIN WITH. SO WHAT DID THEY. LET'S JUST SAY THEY MESSED THEM UP. THEY WERE ALREADY MESSED UP. MY BROTHER WENT OVER THERE FOUR YEARS AGO. HE'S BEEN DOING GRASS ALL HIS LIFE. HE HAS THE VERY GREAT AT HIS JOB. HE SAID IT'S ONLY 40% OF GRASS THERE. 60% IS WEEDS. SO PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO MAKE UP STUFF THAT IS NOT EXISTING. OUR COUNCILWOMAN SAID THE FIELDS ARE IN BAD SHAPE, SO WHEN DID A SEMI TRUCK? HOW DID IT MESS IT UP? EVEN WORSE, IT CAN'T. THERE'S NOT POSSIBLE. IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO MESS UP SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY MESSED
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UP. IF YOU MARRY WITH SOMEONE AND YOU'RE HAVING PROBLEMS, AIN'T NOBODY GOING TO COME AND MESS IT UP. YOU YOU ALREADY MESSED UP AND NOBODY TAKES YOUR WOMAN. YOUR MAN. HEY, IT'S ALREADY MESSED UP. YOU CAN'T NOBODY MESS UP SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY MESSED UP. SO LET'S WORK TOGETHER. LET'S HAVE FUN. I UNDERSTAND HER BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS NOT AGREEING. I GREW UP IN BOCA PARK, BUT ONLY BEEN TO SWAMP FENCE ONCE, AND I. I'M ASHAMED TO SAY IT BECAUSE I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE EVERY YEAR. BUT I'M NOT. PEOPLE GROW UP. PEOPLE DO LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS.PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN OPINIONS. SO SHE FEELS THAT SHE WAS MISTREATED. LET'S TAKE HER AND TALK TO HER AND SEE WHAT WE CAN HELP HER FEEL BETTER ABOUT THE SITUATION. LET'S JUST DON'T SAY THIS PERSON IS BAD. THIS PERSON IS GOOD. EVERYBODY HAS A GOOD HEART HERE BECAUSE IF SHE DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD HEART, SHE WOULDN'T BE HERE. SHE'S CONCERNING HER CONCERNS. MAYBE SOMEONE JUST SKIPPED AND THROUGH. MAYBE HE'S NOT EVEN THE SWAMP FENCE. WHATEVER. SOMEBODY MIGHT JUST THREW A BAG IN HER YARD. IT HAPPENS IN MY GRASS. PEOPLE JUST THROW STUFF. IT COULD HAVE HAPPENED. I'M NOT HERE TO JUDGE BECAUSE I'M NOT THERE. BUT LET'S ALL WORK TOGETHER. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. LET'S WORK TOGETHER AND LET'S. WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT HAVING A HISPANIC, GETTING EVERYBODY TOGETHER. SEPTEMBER 16TH FOR NEXT YEAR. LET'S DO IT UPTOWN. WE DON'T HAVE NO PARKING HERE, BUT WE CAN FIND IT. WE CAN DO IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS SUSANNA ISAY'S. ISAIAH'S. HELLO YOU'RE GOOD. YOU CAN. YOU CAN HEAR ME. WELL, OKAY, MY NAME IS SUSANA DIAZ. USUALLY. AND I CAME AT THESE MEETINGS, BUT TODAY I DECIDED TO CAME BECAUSE IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M AGAINST TO ANYBODY, AND I'M NOT AGAINST ANY CULTURE. BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS ME IN THIS TOWN FOR 36, SEVEN YEARS. OKAY THE THING, IS SOMETHING IS MISSING HERE. IT'S A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT REALLY THEY WANT TO. AND WHAT REALLY IS THAT COMMUNITY, THAT SECURITY OF THE COMMUNITY. BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE SAME. YOU HAVE 200 ORANGES AND 2000 ORANGES. THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT DIFFERENCES IS. RIGHT NOW. HOW WE CAN MANAGE THAT QUANTITY OF PEOPLE. WE UNDERSTAND VERY WELL. AND I'M VERY PROUD TO BE AND LIVE IN THE PLACE WHERE I LIVE IN. I LIVE IN BOCA PARK MY ENTIRE LIFE. I LIVE IN HERE IN INDIANTOWN. KIMBERLY KNOWS ME. I LOVE HER, OKAY. EVERYBODY KNOWS ME. YOU KNOW ME FOR YEARS. THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO DO IS NOTHING ABOUT THE SWAMP IS FOR ME. AND THE THING LIKE I PUT IN THE FACEBOOK WAS THE ONLY THING LIKE THIS LADY, WRITE IT DOWN. I'M TRANSLATOR. THAT'S IT. I'M NOT PUT ANYTHING AGAINST NOBODY AND NOT FROM ME ON MY OWN WORDS. I'M HERE BECAUSE I'M VERY WORRIED ABOUT MY TOWN AND I REALLY WANT TO SEE HOW CAN I SERVE MY TOWN AND DO SOMETHING LIKE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE KIDS, THE ADULTS. OKAY, LOOK, I'M HERE ABOUT THE FUTURE PLAYGROUND, I LOVE IT. WHAT? AND HOW MANY HOW MANY PROGRAMS WE WILL HAVE FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE. WHY? WE DON'T HAVE A SMALL CLINIC 24 OVER SEVEN HERE IN THIS TOWN. ONE SMALL HOSPITAL. OKAY, NOT ONLY EXISTS, THE CULTURE, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR CULTURE. AND I RESPECT THEM IN THE OLD WAYS. I LOVE IT, THAT'S WHY I'M STILL HERE. I LOVE THE KIDS. I WORK ON IT. OKAY? I'M NOT GOING TO JEOPARDIZE THE LIFE TO ANYBODY. THE ONLY THING LIKE, I WANT TO COME OVER HERE IS BECAUSE I WANT TO LIVE IN THE WAY. LIKE EVERYBODY WANTS TO LIVE AND DO, OKAY? IF THEY RESPECT ME. I HAVE NOTHING TO SEE. I NOTHING TO SAY. I RESPECT THEM BECAUSE THAT ONE IS THE KEY OF THAT GROWING UP. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS MELODY BAUM. MELODY. MOM, I HAVE THIS QUESTION ABOUT SWAMP FEST. THE PARKING OR WHEREVER. IF YOU ALLOW SOMEONE TO PARK ON YOUR
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PROPERTY, IT'S STILL A PROBLEM WITH THE OFFICERS. WHERE DO WE PARK? LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER, HOW DO WE MAKE IT BETTER? WHERE IS THIS NUMBER COMING FROM? IF THE PARK ONLY ALLOWS 12. AS SHE STATED, PARKING SPACES AND WE HAVE JUST SAY THE EVENT IS 50, HOW DO WE CHANGE THAT? WE SO THAT MEANS WE CAN NEVER HAVE ANYTHING THERE BECAUSE OF THE 12 PARKING SPACES. CORRECT SO HOW DO WE CHANGE THAT? INDIAN TOWN IS SMALL. WE DON'T HAVE A BIG FIELD. YOU WANT TO TAKE IT TO THOMAS POWERS? BUT ANYBODY CONSIDER THE KIDS THE WATER? HOW DO YOU STOP THAT? HOW SO I'M JUST SAYING, I DON'T THINK WITH YOUR ELDERS ALL THE RULES THAT YOU THROW IN, WE WOULD EVER BE ABLE TO HAVE ANYTHING HERE BECAUSE AS YOU SEE, EVERYTHING'S CHANGING. EVERY. IT'S OKAY HERE.IT'S NOT OKAY HERE. IF WE COME TOGETHER, I'M. I'M I'M ALL FOR HIM. WHY DO WE HAVE TO COME TOGETHER FOR OUR EVENT? WHY DIDN'T THE PARKS AND REC EVER THROW A MARTIN LUTHER KING PARADE? NEVER. SO WHY DO WE HAVE TO COME TOGETHER? AND SIMPLY, I MYSELF. I DON'T TRUST THIS VILLAGE. I DON'T, THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL. OKAY OKAY. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE ISSUE IS PARKING. IS THAT WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND? HAVE YOU GUYS REACHED OUT TO THE NEW OWNERS OF THE EMPTY LOTS RIGHT THERE ON WHERE WE HOST THE MONTHLY FOOD DRIVE AND ASK THEM TO, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO DO THIS EVENT IN OUR COMMUNITY. BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. NOW THAT YOU'RE NEW TO OUR COMMUNITY, CAN WE USE IT FOR JUST PARKING? I THINK WE GET THAT EVERY DAY. YEAH OKAY, , I DID REACH OUT TO THEM BECAUSE I THINK WE REACHED OUT TO MR. POWERS. I THINK THAT'S WHO WE ALWAYS REACH OUT TO. AND THEY THEY THEY TOLD US AND I FOUND OUT LATER THAT IT WAS BECAUSE THE LADY, STEVE KERR, IS THE ONE THAT OWNS IT. AND THAT'S AN OPTION. THAT'S AN OPTION. WE CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO THEM AND WE CAN ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, FIGURE IT OUT. WE CAN GO TO THE CHURCH AND WE CAN PROVIDE OUR PARKING AT THE CHURCHES. BUT THAT'S THE PURPOSE WE WE'RE NOT I DON'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL ARE HEARING, BUT WE KEEP TELLING YOU WE'RE MISSING AND WE'RE WE'RE CONSIDERING EVERYTHING THAT HAS COME BEFORE. YOU DON'T HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR SOMETHING, YOU GOT ONE FOR A SMALLER SCALE BLACK HISTORY PROGRAM. I DOUBT THAT WE'LL HAVE CARS PARKED ALL UP AND DOWN THE STREET, AND WE DEFINITELY WON'T BE ON THE SIDEWALK, SO I'M CONFUSED. BUT YOU GOTTA GET TO THE, THE MAIN REASON, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE THEY WERE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
THEY ALLOW US TO HAVE THE MONTHLY FOOD DRIVE. THERE ARE SO TIMID ABOUT EVERYTHING BECAUSE WE SAW HOW FAST THEY HAD ACCESS TO FOOD. WE STARTED TRYING TO HAVE A CONTRARY TO THE POPULAR OPINION, WE CAN TALK TO THEM. WE DON'T ALWAYS FIGHT IT. I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD IDEA. IT DOESN'T HURT TO REACH OUT. HEY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE INSURANCE AND WE WANT TO WE WANT TO DO THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THE CONTACT INFORMATION. OKAY, WELL, THEN THAT'LL BE A GOOD THING. GOOD. AND ALL YOUR CARDS. OKAY. WELL, OKAY. OKAY. SO ARE WE. IS THAT IS THAT DISCUSSION ITEMS IS THAT WE'RE GOOD. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS. GO AHEAD. I HAVE THREE, JUST A
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REMINDER, THE PARKING MARKET IS TOMORROW. IT'S IN BOCA PARK, AND OUR MONTHLY FOOD DRIVE IS GOING TO BE SEPTEMBER 12TH. AND A SOCCER REGISTRATION IS OPEN UNTIL AUGUST 30TH. SO IF YOU HAVE A LITTLE ONE THAT WANTS TO PLAY SOCCER, COME OUT AND THEN WE ALSO NEED VOLUNTEERS FOR OUR FOOD DRIVE. IF YOU HAVE ANY FREE TIME. SOCCER IS WHAT AGES THE PARKING MARKET WORKING PEOPLE I KNOW I'M I'M TRYING TO WORK IT. IT'S HARD TO GET THEM TO AGREE TO COME ON A SATURDAY. I TRIED, I TRIED OKAY, THE SOCCER REGISTRATION IS FOR WHAT, AGES FROM FOUR, 4 TO 18 YEAR OLDS. 4 TO 18. OKAY. ALL MY STUDENTS. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. AND WITH THAT, WE* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.