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          LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO THIS REGULAR VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING. JULY THE 11TH, 2024. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MAYOR GIBBS, THOMAS HERE. VICE MAYOR PEREZ HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. HERNANDEZ HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. PALMER. PRESENT QUICK HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS. IF YOU HAVE YOUR CELL PHONE, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE IT SILENCED. 
          ALSO, YOUR RESTROOMS ARE TO YOUR LEFT THROUGH THAT DOOR. ALSO, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK THIS EVENING DURING EITHER THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OR TO AN ACTUAL REGULAR AGENDA ITEM, YOU WILL FIND OUT. 
          YOU WILL FIND THE FORMS IN THE VERY BACK, FILL IT OUT ACCORDINGLY AND GET IT TO OUR CLERK THAT IS ON YOUR LEFT OVER THERE. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, TO SPEAK. YOU WILL HEAR WE'RE TRYING SOMETHING NEW. THIS EVENING. YOU WILL HEAR A TONE WHEN YOU HAVE 15 SECONDS LEFT. 
          SO THAT'LL TELL YOU TO WRAP UP YOUR YOUR YOUR COMMENTS, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S IT. THIS EVENING, OUR INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY PASTOR GEORGE PALMER. IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME THIS EVENING. 
          ASK FOR YOU TO FORGIVE US OF ALL OF OUR SINS, OUR OWN THOUGHTS, EVEN OUR SINS OF OMISSION. WE PRAY NOW, LORD, THAT YOU WILL BRING PEACE, CONGEALED HEARTS AND MINDS TO BE ON ONE ACCORD, TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH BUSINESS AT HAND. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR BOUNTIFUL BLESSINGS, FOR HOW GOOD YOU HAVE BEEN TO ALL OF US DOWN THROUGH THE YEARS, FROM THE ROCKING OF OUR CRADLE UNTIL THIS VERY PRESENT MOMENT. THANK YOU THAT YOU SIT HIGH, BUT YOU LOOK LOW. FOR YOUR MERCY ENDURETH FOREVER. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN, AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. MADAM CLERK, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, PULLED ITEMS, OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS? NO, MADAM MAYOR. OKAY, WE'RE MOVING ON TO 
          [1.  Presentation by Department of Health Martin County 
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OUR PRESENTATION THIS EVENING. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND MARTIN COUNTY. YES MA'AM, I'LL INTRODUCE, NICK HERE. MR. CLIFTON RECENTLY BACK IN APRIL, WAS. WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE HIM BECOME YOUR NEW HEALTH OFFICER WHEN CAROL CAROL ANN WAGNER LEFT AND SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR NICK TO BE ABLE TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF TO THE COUNCIL, AS WELL AS TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS HERE IN, IN THE VILLAGE. AND WELCOME. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU, LETTING ME COME OUT AND SAY HI, AS TARYN SAID, MY NAME IS NICK CLIFTON. I'M THE NEW HEALTH OFFICER FOR THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IN MARTIN COUNTY. I WAS APPOINTED IN APRIL, THE LAST DAY OF APRIL. 
          AND, BUT I'VE WORKED FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH FOR 16 YEARS, 14 OF WHICH HAVE BEEN IN MARTIN COUNTY. ALMOST A LIFELONG MARTIN COUNTY RESIDENT, MY PREVIOUS BACKGROUND WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH WAS ENVIRONMENTAL, PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTOR, EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. THE PREVIOUS HEALTH OFFICER BROUGHT ME IN AND LET ME PRETTY MUCH PARTAKE IN EVERYTHING FUN AND EXCITING. 
          THAT'S HAPPENED IN PUBLIC HEALTH OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. SO WE'RE ALTHOUGH WE'RE IN MARTIN COUNTY, WE'RE ONE OF 67 HEALTH DEPARTMENTS THAT'S AN INTEGRATE, ACCREDITED HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          AND WE I WAS GOING TO GO WITH THAT. WE HAVE TWO HEALTH DEPARTMENT LOCATIONS, ONE IN INDIANTOWN, ONE IN STEWART, AND WE OFFER CLINICAL SERVICES. WE HAVE A REGULATORY FUNCTION SIDE EPIDEMIOLOGY. OUR CLINICAL SERVICES CONSIST OF TB TREATMENT OR TUBERCULOSIS TREATMENT AND TESTING. FAMILY PLANNING, IMMUNIZATIONS AND HIV AND STD TESTING. WE DO THAT IN STEWART AND WE DO THAT IN INDIANTOWN AS WELL. OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PUBLIC HEALTH GROUP OR DIVISION. WE DO REGULATORY FUNCTIONS LIKE INSPECTING SWIMMING POOLS, BARS, BIOMEDICAL WASTE FACILITIES. 
          THAT'S KIND OF WHERE YOU SEE US MOST IN THE PUBLIC, OTHER THAN OUR PUBLIC HEALTH OUTREACH 
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GROUPS, WHERE WE PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY HEALTH FAIRS. I THINK OUR GROUP, THEY WERE HERE ACTUALLY LAST SATURDAY FOR THE FAMILY FUN DAY AT POST FAMILY PARK. WE DO HEALTH OUTREACHES, STD, HIV TESTING, THAT KIND OF STUFF, AND WE DO HAVE BOTH OF OUR FACILITIES, STEWART AND INDIANTOWN. WE PROVIDE NARCAN TO THE PUBLIC, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. COME IN, ASK FOR IT. IT'S TO HELP PREVENT OVERDOSES. IT'S ONE OF OUR INITIATIVES, OTHER INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW SPECIFIC TO INDIANTOWN ARE TRYING TO INCREASE PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, SUPPORT GOOD NUTRITION AND REDUCE OBESITY, ESPECIALLY CHILDHOOD OBESITY. ONE OF OUR INITIATIVES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THROUGH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH GROUP, IT'S CALLED PACE. IT'S A PROTOCOL FOR ASSESSING COMMUNITY EXCELLENCE IN ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH. WE SURVEYED I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 283, ALMOST 300 RESIDENTS OF INDIAN TOWN TO SEE WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THE HEALTHY FOOD OPTIONS, TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO TO HELP REDUCE THE PREVALENCE OF OBESITY AND POOR NUTRITION. CHRONIC DISEASE, AND OVERWHELMINGLY, THE COMMUNITY SAID FARMERS MARKET. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SEVERAL COMMUNITY PARTNERS, INCLUDING THE VILLAGE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, DEBORAH FROM PARKS AND REC AND WHAT ELSE WAS THERE? I THINK WE HAD. AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION, UF, IFAS, THE VILLAGE. SO IT'S A GOOD GROUP. 
          THERE'S A LOT THERE'S SOME GOOD. THERE'S SOME COMMUNITY FOLKS THAT ARE INVOLVED AS WELL, WHICH IS NICE. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE THAT A TRUE COMMUNITY INITIATIVE THAT WAS NOT FORCED DOWN THEIR THROATS LIKE THEY WANTED IT. SO, WE PARTICIPATED. WE HAD A COMMUNITY HEALTH FAIR LAST YEAR AT THE, MOUNT ZION CHURCH THAT WENT REALLY WELL. WE HAD A LOT OF PARTNERS OUT THERE. WE PLAN ON HAVING ANOTHER ONE THIS OCTOBER AND THIS FALL WE LOOK TO DO SOME CAR SEAT INSTALLATIONS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE FREE OR NO COST CAR SEATS TO RESIDENTS. AND THAT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS. BUT IT'S COMING. SO I WANTED TO OPEN IT UP AND SEE IF YOU GUYS HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. WELL, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION BEFORE I OPEN IT FOR ANYBODY ELSE, WE HAVE, THE DEPARTMENT HERE IN INDIANTOWN. WHAT ARE ITS HOURS OF, OF SERVICE WHERE WE PROVIDE CLINIC SERVICES EVERY TUESDAY. WE'VE INCREASED THAT. IT USED TO BE BY APPOINTMENT ONLY, LIKE EVERY OTHER TUESDAY. BUT AS THE DEMAND HAS INCREASED, WE'VE NOW WE HAVE FULL CLINIC STAFF THERE EVERY TUESDAY, AND WE HAVE OUR WOMEN'S INFANT AND CHILDREN WEEK AND NUTRITION STAFF. THEY'RE THERE EVERY TUESDAY AND THURSDAY. SO WEEK, TUESDAY AND THURSDAY AND CLINIC TUESDAY. FROM WHAT TIME TO WHAT TIME? 8 TO 5. 8 TO 5 ON BOTH OF THOSE. YEAH AND AS AS THE VILLAGE GROWS, WE WILL GROW WITH IT. AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SCALE UP AND WE HAVE SPACE ALLOCATED FOR OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH STAFF WHEN THE TIME IS NEEDED. RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST DRIVING BACK AND FORTH. BUT AS THE VILLAGE GROWS, WE'LL WE'LL SCALE UP WITH IT. OKAY. DO I HAVE ANY OTHER. YES. YES, MA'AM, I HAVE I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. I HAVE A QUESTION. AND MY QUESTION DEALS WITH SPECIAL OLYMPICS. I NOTICED IN IN OUR VILLAGE, THERE ARE A LOT OF CHILDREN THAT ARE ARTISTIC AND HAVE JUST HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS. SO WHAT ARE WE DOING? OR WHAT DO YOU DO OR WHAT YOUR DEPARTMENT DO TO HELP THOSE FAMILIES THAT HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN? WE WOULDN'T HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH THAT. FOR THOSE FAMILIES SPECIFICALLY, UNLESS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, A REFERENCE POINT TO ACCESS, GETTING ACCESS TO CARE FOR ANY KIND OF MEDICAL NEEDS THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE OUR, OUR MOST OUR, OUR SCHOOL HEALTH PROGRAM. SO IF THOSE CHILDREN ARE IDENTIFIED IN SCHOOLS THAT HAVING SPECIFIC NEEDS, OUR SCHOOL HEALTH PROGRAM WOULD OVERSEE THE THEM GETTING THE PROPER CARE THAT THEY NEED WITH REGARDS TO MEDICAL ATTENTION AND SPECIALIZED EDUCATION. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. YES, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO, THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR, YOU KNOW, DOING THAT RESEARCH IN REGARDS OF UNIONTOWN AND THE NEEDS, AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GOOD FOOD COST A LOT OF MONEY, SO IN ORDER TO REACH OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS DIVERSE, WE NEED TO FOCUS ON WHAT THEY WANT. AND SO THE SURVEYS HELPED, BUT ADDITIONALLY TO THAT, I WANTED TO ASK, HOW WOULD WE KNOW? LIKE, WILL YOU BE ADVERTISING THE WHOLE TODDLER SEAT? THE CAR 
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SEAT? YEAH, THE CAR SEAT. YEAH AS WE AS THAT THAT GETS CLOSER AND THE PLANS GET FINALIZED, THE LOCATION GETS DETERMINED. WE WILL DEFINITELY. WE'LL WE'LL SHARE THE INFORMATION WITH THE VILLAGE. WE'LL SHARE IT WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS, AND WE'LL GET IT OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT TO ITS FULLEST. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR SURE. GOOD. 
          ANY OTHERS? WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT. THANK YOU. OKAY. MOVING ON. WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. DO WE, MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY 
          [PUBLIC COMMENT (3 MINUTES EACH)]
PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS EVENING? YES, MADAM MAYOR, THE FIRST IS MISS VANILLA RAMSEY. I'M HERE IS MY. I'M SO. SHE'S NOT SPEAKING. WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ONE. SHE'S, GIVING HER MINUTES TO. I THINK WE DO THAT. WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE. YEAH. MAYOR, THAT'S NOT BEEN YOUR PRACTICE. 
          YEAH THE COUNCIL'S PRACTICE TO ALLOW THEM TO STACK MINUTES. YOU WANT HER TO GO FIRST, THOUGH? OKAY OKAY, SO. SO SHE SHE'S WAIVING UNTIL. TILL A LITTLE BIT LATER. SO MISS KIMBERLY JACKSON. 
          GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. WELL, EVERYBODY KNOWS I'M KIMBERLY JACKSON. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CONCERNED CITIZENS FOR BROOKLYN PARK, WHO HAPPENED TO HOST SWAMP FEST. AND I JUST WANT TO READ SOMETHING VERY QUICKLY TO YOU THAT I CAUGHT IS WITH A HEAVY HEART COUNTER THAT I READ THIS BECAUSE INDIAN TOWN IS MY HOME, BOOKER PARK IS MY HOME, AND FOR THE FIRST TIME, I'M NOT LOOKING AT IT THROUGH THESE ROSE COLORED GLASSES. I'M KIND OF REALIZING THAT THINGS HAVE TRULY BEEN BLACK AND WHITE. AND IT'S SAD. IT'S SAD BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT BLACK AND WHITE, I'M WILLING TO LISTEN AND I'M WILLING TO HEAR YOU GUYS OUT. BUT WHAT WOULD LEAD ME TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S BLACK AND WHITE IS HOW OUR EVENT, FIRST, FROM START TO FINISH, FROM EVEN GETTING A PERMIT, WE HAD TO JUMP THROUGH EVERY HOOP. THANK YOU GUYS FOR GIVING US THAT PERMIT, BUT WE HAD TO JUMP THROUGH HOOP AFTER HOOP. WE DID EVERYTHING THAT WAS REQUESTED OF US AND WE KEPT RUNNING INTO HITTING BRICK WALLS AND WE HAD PEOPLE COMMENTING THINGS THAT WASN'T EVEN NECESSARY, BUT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LOSE MY THREE MINUTES. AND THIS IS A LETTER TO THE PEOPLE OF INDIAN TOWN. THE VILLAGE, THIS COMMUNITY, ALONG WITH MANY OTHER HISTORICALLY BLACK COMMUNITIES, IS UNDER ATTACK. IT IS A VERY STRATEGIC AND COORDINATED ATTACK ON OUR CULTURE AND OUR PEOPLE. THERE ARE FORCES IN AND OUT OF GOVERNMENT THAT SEEK TO RULE OVER US AS THEY ONCE DID. THIS WE WILL NOT ALLOW. WE HAVE BEEN MADE TO JUMP THROUGH HOOPS TO GET A SIMPLE PERMIT, OR TO PUT ON PROGRAMS. WE HAVE BEEN LIED TO AND LIED ON BY SO CALLED UPSTANDING MEMBERS OF OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. WE SAY NO MORE. 
          WHAT'S EVEN MORE DISTURBING IS THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER LIVED A DAY IN BOOKER PARK WANT TO TELL BOOKER PARK WHAT'S GOOD FOR BOOKER PARK. OH, IT'S NOTHING OUTRIGHT, BUT IT'S VERY SUBTLE AND COORDINATED, LIKE BEING TOLD THAT EVERY PARK OR FACILITY IS RESERVED FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, OR THAT A PROPERTY IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE BECAUSE A AGENCY IN OUR COMMUNITY NO LONGER OWNS OWNS IT ONLY TO FIND OUT, IN THE WORDS OF MAURY POVICH, THAT'S A LIE. AND HEREIN LIES ANOTHER ISSUE. SOME OF YOU EXPECT US TO JUST TAKE YOUR WORD AND JUST GO AWAY, OR DO AS WE ARE TOLD. I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU. THIS COMMUNITY IS NOT A CHILD IN NEED OF PARENTAL GUIDANCE, ESPECIALLY NOT FROM THOSE THAT DO NOT LOOK LIKE US NOR CARE FOR US. AND THAT'S NOT FOR EVERYBODY. SO. BUT IF THE SHOE FIT, I NEED YOU TO PUT IT ON AND WEAR IT. AND WE KNOW THAT YOU DO NOT CARE, BECAUSE YOU TELL US LIES THAT CAN EASILY BE FOUND OUT WITH A SIMPLE SEARCH OF PUBLIC RECORDS. AND WHEN THE TRUTH IS FOUND, INSTEAD OF OWNING IT, YOU DOUBLE DOWN. WHO NEEDS AN AUTHORITY FIGURE THAT REFUSES TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE? NOT US. FROM HERE ON OUT, WE AS A COMMUNITY WILL CHALLENGE ANY AND ALL DIRECTIVES FROM THOSE IN AUTHORITY THAT CARE SO LITTLE ABOUT US. BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT US, WE CARE ABOUT OUR PEOPLE, AND WE CARE ABOUT BOOKER PARK. THANK YOU. THE CHALLENGE AND GO OFF. YEAH, I KNOW I COUNTED TO 15 NOW 
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AFTER THE AFTER THAT SINCE WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A CHIME. THE NEXT IS MISS VANILLA RAMSEY. MR. DARRYL HOLMES. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, THERE IT IS. AS A NEW RESIDENT OF INDIAN TOWN, TRANSPORTED BY WAY OF NEW MONROVIA AND PORT SALERNO. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE HARD TO NOT SEE. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ONE CANNOT NOT NOTICE, I THINK THE REALITY OF A LOT OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE SAID TODAY IS BEING MISSED BY THOSE IN POSITION OF AUTHORITY AND POSITION OF GOVERNMENT. AND IT'S A SIMPLE CULTURAL ISSUE. THE FACT THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BEING MOST TALKED ABOUT, ABOUT SWAMP FEST AS BEAUTIFUL AS AN EVENT AS THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN FOCUSES, WAS A TWERK CONTEST. 
          YOU MEAN TO TELL ME MEMBERS OF PARKS AND REC BEING OUT THERE ON A SATURDAY, DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS YOUR DAY OFF OR YOUR DAY ON, BUT I KNOW IT'S UNUSUAL FOR PARKS AND REC TO WORK ON A SATURDAY. NEVERTHELESS, YOU CAME AND YOU SAW HOW BEAUTIFUL THE EVENT WAS AND THE THING YOU CAN FOCUS ON IS NOT THAT YOU SAW A TWERK CONTEST, NOT THAT YOU SAW ANYTHING UNBECOMING, BUT YOU HEARD THAT THERE WAS A CONTEST, OR THAT THERE MIGHT BE A TWERK CONTEST. AND INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON, HEY, YOU GUYS, PUT ON A BEAUTIFUL EVENT, GREAT JOB. KEEP IT UP. HEY, THAT WAS AWESOME. 
          THE VENDORS, THEY WERE GREAT. NO NO NO NO, WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T HEAR ANY OF THAT FROM ANYBODY. 
          WHAT WE HEARD WAS SUPPOSEDLY THERE WAS A TWERK CONTEST. NOW THERE'S A HISTORY BEHIND THE TWERK DANCE THAT I FEEL NO NEED TO GET INTO BECAUSE EVEN EXPLAINING IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT DEMEANING TO HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT, TO HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT FOR ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE, IT'S DISTURBING. BUT FOR ANOTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE, IT'S CULTURE. THERE NEEDS TO BE A MIDDLE GROUND HERE SOMEWHERE. SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET ME LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GOVERNMENT, ABOUT HOW THESE THINGS WORK. AND THEN ON THAT SIDE THERE NEEDS TO BE LET ME COME OVER HERE AND LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CULTURE. WHAT WHAT IS THIS REALLY ABOUT? BECAUSE IT LOOKS ONE WAY TO ME FROM WHERE I WAS RAISED AND HOW I GREW UP. YOU'RE 15 SECONDS. 
          BUT NOW I SEE THAT THE FOLKS THAT ARE PUTTING ON THIS EVENT, THEY SEE THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. LET ME TAKE A STEP FORWARD TO TRY AND BRIDGE THIS GAP THAT'S BETWEEN US. AND THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN HERE IN BOOKER PARK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MISS CAROLYN PARKER. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL MAYOR. VICE MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. WHAT THIS YOUNG MAN IS TRYING TO SAY IS THAT WE ARE BEING RAILROADED WHEN IT COMES TO SWAMP FEST. I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR BALLPARK, NOT OUR BALLPARK, BUT OUR COMMUNITY, WAS GIVEN THE BALLPARK. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S MAINTENANCE NEEDS TO BE DONE. THANK YOU, DEBBIE RUSSO. WHOEVER KEEPS THAT UP. BUT THAT STILL DOES NOT GIVE ANOTHER, ANOTHER ANOTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND PLAY SOCCER WHEN WE CAN'T EVEN GO OUT AND DO IT THE WAY WE DID IT. VERY NICE. AS A YOUNG MAN SAID, NO COMPLAINTS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE MIGHT HAVE HAD AN ACCIDENT HERE OR THERE, BUT THAT ACCIDENT WAS TAKEN CARE OF. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DID FOR US. BUT NEXT YEAR WE WILL BE BACK TO DO THIS AGAIN. PLEASE DON'T TRY WITH ALL OF THE LITTLE HOOPS THAT YOU DID, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. SUNDAY WE HAD CHURCH. I NOTICED I DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THE COUNCILMEN OUT THERE. I JUST WONDER WHY. IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL SERVICE. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. YOU JUST GOT ON THE BOARD. THAT IS IT. OKAY, SO COMMENTS BY VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. THANK YOU. 
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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, IT'S GOOD TO SEE A ROOM FULL OF, RESIDENT. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE US IN ACTION BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS UNTIL AFTER IT HAPPENS. SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU GUYS TO BE VIGILANT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE, BECAUSE THE DECISIONS THAT ARE DONE HERE, FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW, ELECTIONS MATTER. SO THAT'S ALL I WILL SAY IN THAT REGARD. BUT I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS WITH, MR. VILLAGE ATTORNEY. SO I'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS AND I HAVE REACHED OUT TO STAFF IN REGARDS OF, CONSTRUCTION SITES IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. WHAT HAPPENS IN CONSTRUCTION SITES IS NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IN UNIONTOWN. 
          HAVING DIRT ALL OVER UNION WOOD. I THINK IT EVEN GETS ALL THE WAY TO BOCA PARK TO THAT EXTENT, WHEN YOU HAVE VISITORS TELLING YOU, YOU GUYS HAVE IT THAT BAD, I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS HAPPEN IN STUART AND JENSEN BEACH. I HAD TO CALL SOMEONE TODAY TO ASK, WHAT IS DONE IN CONSTRUCTION SITES, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSE I'VE, I'VE GOTTEN IS THE CITY CAN'T LIMIT ANYTHING BUT THE ANSWERS I'VE GOTTEN FROM OTHER PEOPLE THAT WORK IN CONSTRUCTION IS THE CITY DOES LIMIT IT. THE CITY DOES DO SOMETHING IN REGARDS OF IT. PUT TARPS ON BLACK, BLACK. I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY IT IS, BUT SOMETHING THAT HELPS PREVENT ALL THIS DUST FROM FLYING AROUND, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH ISSUES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, JUST DUST EVERYWHERE. PEOPLE'S CARS COVERED, HOUSES COVERED. YOU CAN'T EVEN GO OUT. YESTERDAY, I WAS I WAS LEAVING MY HOUSE AND LIKE, DUST WAS GOING INTO MY EYES, EVEN WITH GLASSES. SO HOW DO WE HOW DO WE FIX THIS IN THE FUTURE WHEN ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, WHEN WE CAN'T EVEN FIX THIS CURRENT ONE? SO I WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT CAN WE DO TO FIX THIS? TO FIX THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT OKAY. IT'S NOT OKAY BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WE LIVE HERE. AND HOW IS A DEVELOPER HAVE MORE OF A SAY THAN RESIDENTS HERE? I, WE GOT A VIDEO ACTUALLY THROUGH EMAIL TODAY FROM A RESIDENT WHERE HE RECORDS IT AND HE SENT IT TO US. I ACTUALLY HAVE PICTURES BECAUSE YESTERDAY WHEN IT WAS, IT WAS FLYING. IT LOOKED LIKE THE SAHARA DESERT OUT HERE. IT WAS THAT BAD. YOU COULDN'T EVEN SEE, SO I WANT TO SEE WHAT STAFF CAN DO TO ADDRESS THIS, BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY SENT EMAILS OUT AND I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING. BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD FROM PEOPLE THAT WORK IN CONSTRUCTION ALL DAY, EVERY DAY IS THAT THIS CAN BE FIXED BY THE CITY COMING. THE CITY CONTROLS IT AND OTHER AREAS. THE CITY COMES AND SEES THAT THESE TARPS ARE BEING PUT AND THESE FENCES ARE BEING PUT. THERE IS DANGER OUT THERE. I'VE BEEN TALKING TO RESIDENTS ALL, ALL AROUND AND THEY'RE UPSET. A LOT OF THEM ARE UPSET. I'M PRETTY UPSET BECAUSE I LIVE IN THAT AREA, AND I FEEL LIKE MY VOICE IS NOT EVEN BEING HEARD. THAT'S ONE ISSUE. THE OTHER ISSUE IS, THE SWAMP FEST. I, I LOVED IT. I ACTUALLY WENT THERE SATURDAY, BUT I DID SEE IT HEAVILY PATROLLED, WHICH I KNOW THE COPS HAVE TO DO THEIR JOB, BUT WHEN WE BECAME A VILLAGE, WE SAID WE WANTED TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS NOT WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEN YOU'RE LITERALLY GOING DOWN THEIR THROATS, WE SAID PERMITS. WE WANTED OUR PERMITS TO BE EASIER. YES. AND I KNOW I'M GOING TO GET BACKTALK TODAY ABOUT HOW WE BECAME ANOTHER GOVERNMENT, ANOTHER LAYER OF GOVERNMENT. YES, BUT WE SAID WHAT WE WANTED WAS TO BE FRIENDLIER, NOT TO BE CONTROLLING. AND THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE WE ARE CONTROLLING CERTAIN PEOPLE AND NOT CONTROLLING OTHER PEOPLE. THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE. I 
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WENT TO BOTH EVENTS THE SAME DAY, AND I SAW THE HUGE DIFFERENCE. AND I HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT LIVE IN BOCA PARK AND THEY'VE TOLD ME HOW DIFFERENT THEY SAW IT, AND THEY WENT TO BOTH EVENTS. SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION OF THE RESIDENTS, AND THAT'S MY FRUSTRATION TOO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I THINK WE'RE LOOKING HERE FOR A RESOLUTION. HOW WE CAN ALL COEXIST. OKAY IT'S EASY TO SAY THIS AND THAT. I WASN'T THERE TO SEE EVERYTHING. WHAT I DID SAW, WHAT I DID SEE WAS BEAUTIFUL. HOWEVER, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THIS THE CITIZENS OF BOCA PARK AND COUNCIL AND STAFF THAT WE COME TOGETHER AND SIT DOWN FOR A RESOLVE. OKAY. ALL THE ALL THE ISSUES ON THE TABLE, WHATEVER THE WHETHER IT'S THE PERMITS, IF THE PERMITS, WHATEVER, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO, GET ALL EVERYTHING COME TOGETHER AS A HARMONIOUS WHOLE. AND I THINK THAT WE CAN DO THAT. WE DON'T WE DON'T NEED DIVISION. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE DIVISION, THAT WE'RE BIGGER THAN THAT. WE'RE BIGGER THAN THE BLACK AND THE WHITE AND HISPANIC. WE'RE BIGGER THAN THAT BECAUSE WE ARE THE SAME. WE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT BLEED BLUE NOW. AND WHEN THE AIR HIT IT, GUESS WHAT HAPPENED? IT TURNS RED. AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT. AND I KNOW THESE LADIES AND I KNOW THEIR CAPABILITIES OF ORGANIZING AND EXECUTING THINGS. I ALSO KNOW THAT STAFF IS CAPABLE OF DOING WHAT'S NECESSARY. AND I JUST I THINK THAT MY BIGGEST THING IS THAT I, I THINK THAT WE CAN RESOLVE THIS ISSUE. COME TO THE TABLE. LET'S SIT DOWN. LET'S REASON TOGETHER, WE CAN GET IT DONE. AND NEXT YEAR, IF THE CITIZENS OF BOCA PART SO DESIRE AS AS MISS KIM SAID, IT'S WE'RE HAVING IT AGAIN AND MISS DIANE WE'RE HAVING SWAMP FEST 2025. GUESS WHAT? LET'S ALL JUST GET IT ALL RESOLVED AND JUST BE HAPPY ABOUT IT AND DO WHAT WE DO BEST. AND THAT'S BE A FAMILY AND WORK TOGETHER. WE CAN DO THAT. I'M COUNTING ON COUNCIL STAFF AND RESIDENTS. LET'S DO THIS Y'ALL. WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. WE WILL WORK TOGETHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER DE PAULA. YEAH I WAS THERE BOTH DAYS. I DIDN'T WALK AROUND MUCH BECAUSE MY DOCTOR TOLD ME NOT TO WALK AROUND JUST FOR ANYBODY THAT I. I'LL MAKE IT. I'M LEAVING FOR BOSTON ON MONDAY. I'M HAVING OPEN HEART SURGERY A WEEK FROM MONDAY. SO MY DOCTOR TOLD ME, DON'T WALK TOO MUCH. SO, I DIDN'T WALK AROUND, BUT I CAME THROUGH MANY, MANY TIMES, AND I DON'T SEE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ISSUE IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU CAME TO US, TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAD RECOMMENDED THAT WE SHUT IT DOWN AT 7:00. WE ASKED FOR TEN. WE GAVE YOU 10:00. OKAY. I I DROVE THROUGH THERE ON SUNDAY MORNING AND THE PLACE WAS IMMACULATE. I DIDN'T SEE ANY PROBLEM. IT WAS PICKED UP. IT LOOKED GREAT, LIKE IT NEVER EVEN HAPPENED, SAME THING SUNDAY. SO I DON'T THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T HAVE STUFF ON YOUR PLAN THAT YOU HAD THERE, LIKE THE STAGE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT WASN'T ON THE PLAN, BUT IT WAS PUT THERE. THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE ALCOHOL. IT WAS ALCOHOL. THERE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, I DIDN'T BUY ANY ALCOHOL. SO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS FROM WHAT I'M BEING TOLD. AND FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I ASKED THEM FOR THE FOR THE STATISTICS, ARRESTS, ETC, AND I THINK THE LIEUTENANT'S GOING TO GIVE US, GIVE US THE FACTS ON THAT. AND, I DON'T I DON'T SEE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE IN HERE. AND WE'RE MAKING IT A BLACK AND WHITE. IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT A BLACK AND WHITE ISSUE. I DON'T SEE IT. YOU KNOW, WE WALK AROUND, WE AS A VILLAGE HAVE LAWS THAT WE'VE ADOPTED, AND WE NEED TO LIVE BY THOSE LAWS. OKAY. AND THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS. NOW IF PARKS AND REC WAS OUT THERE AND I DID HEAR SOME RUMBLING OF SOMETHING, SOMEBODY WAS MADE A THREAT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO ONE OF OUR PARKS GUYS. YOU KNOW, THEY WERE OUT THERE DOING A JOB, OKAY, THEY'RE THERE IN CASE YOU NEED THEM. OKAY PERMITTED EVENTS ON SATURDAYS WHEN THE CHURCHES HAVE THEIR EVENTS WITH THEIR 
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TENTS, ARE THEY IN THE CHURCH ALL NIGHT? THIS IS NOT DISCUSSION TIME. IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT THE SAME THING. IT'S HIS TIME, OKAY? IT'S NOT THE SAME THING YOU HAVE. YOU HAVE AN EVENT WHERE YOU HAVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE GATHERED. OKAY. SO LAW ENFORCEMENT HAD A STRONG PRESENCE WHICH IT'S FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY. I MEAN, THE LAST THING I WANT IS FOR BAD PRESS TO COME OUT OF INDIAN TOWN, THAT SOMEBODY GOT SHOT OR SOMETHING HAPPENED. SO YEAH, WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT HAPPENS. IT'S HAPPENED BEFORE. SO LAW ENFORCEMENT IS THERE TO KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE AND TO DO THEIR JOB. AND I DON'T I DON'T SEE I REALLY DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM. SO YOU KEEP SAYING THAT EXCUSE ME. THIS IS NOT DISCUSSION TIME. SERIOUSLY. SO ANYWAYS, OTHER THAN THAT. WE'RE GOOD. THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. IF LIEUTENANT WANTS TO. IF THE LIEUTENANT CAN GIVE US A, YOU KNOW. HELLO. HELLO, LIEUTENANT. DAVID ROSCOE. I REPLACE IT. IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, KENDALL DOLAN WAS HERE BEFORE, SO I'M THE REPLACEMENT OUT HERE. SO I RUN THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS FOR THE TOWN SUBSTATION, DURING THE EVENT, THOUGH, WE ENDED UP, FOR THAT TWO DAY BLOCK FOR THE TOTALITY OF IT, STARTING FROM 5 P.M. SATURDAY, GOING TO ABOUT 3 A.M. MONDAY MORNING, THE EXACT NUMBERS IT WAS BALLPARK WAS 40 TO 50. TRAFFIC STOPS WERE CONDUCTED THROUGH THAT ENTIRE TIME FRAME, PHYSICAL ARRESTS. WE HAD TWO PHYSICAL ARRESTS DURING THAT TIME FRAME, ONE OF WHICH WAS FIREARM RELATED. BUT THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER INSTANCES WHERE WE CAME IN CONTACT WITH FIREARMS. HOWEVER, THEY WERE, THERE WAS NO VIOLATIONS OBSERVED WITH THOSE. IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT OH THAT'S GOOD, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. VICE MAYOR PEREZ, GOOD EVENING, SORRY I MISSED THE SWAMP FEST, MY HUSBAND PLANNED A MINI VACATION, BUT I HEAR YOUR CONCERNS AND, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER BERNSTEIN SAID WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, WE HEAR YOUR CONCERNS. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A SWAMP FEST POST UPDATE, YOU KNOW, TO HEAR THEIR CONCERNS, BECAUSE I WASN'T THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BUT I DID HEAR I DID SEE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU KNOW, BUT WE NEED TO SOLVE THIS MOVING FORWARD IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT IN 2025, WE WANT TO MAKE IT SMOOTH FOR EVERYONE. EVERYONE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE AN EVENT, EITHER BOOK A PARK, POST BIG MOUTH, MAKE IT TRANSPARENT. BUT WE ALL GOT TO WORK TOGETHER. COUNCIL STAFF AND OUR RESIDENTS. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY NOW ALL THIS IS IN, I GUESS. REPLY IT'S CONTEXT TO CONTEXT, I GUESS FOR THE SITUATION, FOR PUBLIC EDIFICATION. BECAUSE WHEN WE DO A PERMIT, IT IS AN AGREED UPON CONTRACT. IT STATES WHAT THE VILLAGE REQUIRES AND YES, WHEN WE INCORPORATE IT, WE, WE ADOPTED OUR OWN OWN LAWS, OWN ORDINANCES TO REFLECT WHAT THIS COMMUNITY WANTED. WE ARE A NATION OF LAWS BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, YOU HAVE YOU. WHERE DOES MY RIGHT TO PLAY MUSIC? TILL YOU KNOW, SAY, YOU KNOW, 11:00 AT NIGHT? WE DO HAVE A SOUND ORDINANCE AND I, I AM RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MY NEIGHBOR WHO WANTS PEACE AND QUIET. THAT'S THE REASON WE HAVE SOUND ORDINANCES. 
          THAT'S THE REASON WE HAVE PERMITS FOR EVENTS. AND EVERYBODY DOES THE SAME EXACT PERMIT. IF YOU'RE JUMPING THROUGH HOOPS, THEN WHOEVER HAS ANOTHER EVENT, THEY HAPPEN TO JUMP THROUGH THOSE SAME EXACT HOOPS. THERE'S NOT HOOPS FOR ONE THAT'S NOT FOR ANOTHER. THEY ALL ARE. THE EXACT SAME ONES, AND THE FACTS IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE DEALING WITH. BECAUSE AT THE MEETING WHERE MISS JACKSON SHOWED UP AND WE WERE ABLE TO HAMMER OUT CONCERNS, THAT IS RECORDED, AND WE CAN GO BACK AND WE CAN WATCH THAT, THAT THE DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE DAIS AND THE PODIUM AND HOW WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT. WE LISTENED TO THE CONCERNS AND WE RESPONDED, YOU KNOW, IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO US THAT IT SHUT DOWN AT SEVEN. SO THERE'S NOT ISSUES THAT MIGHT 
          [00:35:01]
COME AFTERWARDS. WE LOVE OUR COMMUNITY. ALL OF IT. OKAY YES, I DO. EVERYBODY SITTING UP HERE DOES IN THIS ON THIS COUNCIL. WHERE ARE THE WHERE. WELL WE'RE THE ONES THAT MAKE THOSE LAWS OKAY. AND STAFF IS THERE TO IMPLEMENT. THAT'S THEIR JOB. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT'S THEIR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DECIDED UPON, THAT CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE GETS CARRIED OUT. THEY HAVE NO CHOICE. OKAY. SO AND ALSO KIND OF AN FYI, TALKING ABOUT SUNDAY SERVICE, I WASN'T THERE BECAUSE I AM COMMITTED TO HELP A CONGREGATION. I HAVE TO OPEN UP A SCHOOL. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE REASON I WASN'T THERE. DON'T GO ASSUMING THAT'S THE REASON SOMEBODY IS NOT THERE IS BECAUSE THEY'RE IGNORING YOU OR THEY'RE WANTING TO TREAT YOU BAD. OKAY. 
          YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE ASSUMING THINGS ABOUT YOU. DON'T BE ASSUMING THINGS ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE. BECAUSE I HAD OTHER OBLIGATIONS TO ANOTHER BODY OF CHRIST. OKAY, OKAY. I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE. I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF. OKAY, SO WHATEVER JUMP HOOPS THAT YOU THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH, EVERYBODY DOES IT. THE FACTS WERE RECORDED AT THAT MEETING. WE DISCUSSED TIME. YOU HAD THIS COUNCIL SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE OF THE EVENT THAT WAS HELD LAST YEAR. AND IT'S AND IT'S THE SAME, SAME GROUP HOLDING IT THIS YEAR. AND THE WAY THAT IT WAS, IT WAS DEALT WITH LAST YEAR. THE WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT WAS OUT THERE POLICING YOURSELVES. AND IT WAS ASSURED TO US THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN. THAT'S THE REASON WE HAD CONFIDENCE IN THAT EVENT HAPPENING. OKAY WE SAID YES, ABSOLUTELY. 10:00 IS GOOD. HOWEVER, FROM WHAT I AM UNDERSTANDING, AND THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND DO A DEBRIEFING AFTER THE EVENT TO SEE WHERE THE ISSUES WERE. DON'T GO. WE DON'T NEED TO BE JUMPING. Y'ALL DON'T NEED TO BE JUMPING. WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER. THIS WORKING TOGETHER THING. WE HAVE TO DO IT. OR ELSE YOU DO GET IN EACH TEARING AT EACH OTHER'S NECK AND IT AND IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO WORK. THAT'S NOT WHO WE ARE. WE NEVER HAVE BEEN. WE'VE GROWN UP AT EACH OTHER'S HOUSES. OKAY? SO WE DON'T NEED TO START IT NOW. REALLY. WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER AND WORK IT OUT. SO, SO 10:00 THAT WAS DECIDED ON HERE. AGREED TO. SO 10:00 THEY GOING TO TURN OUT THE LIGHTS. WELL, APPARENTLY THERE WAS AN ISSUE ABOUT THAT. OKAY. WE'LL SEE WHAT WE'LL SEE. WE WE'RE WE'RE HEARING YOU KNOW, THIS ONE HAD THIS PERSPECTIVE AND EXPERIENCE. 
          IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN EXACTLY WHERE YOU WERE AT THAT MOMENT, BUT OVER HERE THIS MAY HAVE BEEN HAPPENING. SO YOU GOT TO LISTEN TO ALL OF IT. COME TOGETHER, MEET IN THE MIDDLE. OKAY. IT WAS ALSO SAID AT THAT MEETING, YOU ARE A VICTIM OF YOUR OWN SUCCES. THAT VENUE OUT THERE, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND YOU SAID THIS WILL BE OUR LAST YEAR AND YOU AGREE TO IT, AND YOU SAID, WE ARE, WE ARE. WE'VE OUTGROWN IT. WE COULD WE COULD MAKE BETTER MONEY, CONTROL IT BETTER WITH PEOPLE INCOMING, HAVING IT AT ANOTHER VENUE. SO THAT WAS THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT CLEARLY WE CAN GO BACK AND WATCH IT THAT THAT THIS THIS WILL BE IT. THIS WILL BE OUR LAST ONE. PLEASE LET US JUST GO. YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT WE CAN AND WE SUPPORT YOU. WE DID OKAY. BUT NOW IT'S COMING BACK. 
          AND I WAS THERE SATURDAY WASN'T THERE SUNDAY. LIKE I SAID, I HAD PREVIOUS PREVIOUS ENGAGEMENTS OKAY. SO WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND HASH IT OUT. WE DO BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED THE CONTENTION THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD BEFORE. WE NEED TO COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING. BUT WE DO HAVE LAWS. WE DO HAVE REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY BECAUSE IF NOT. WE WOULD NOT HAVE A CIVIL SOCIETY. 
          WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE OTHER PEOPLE'S RIGHTS, NOT JUST OUR OWN. WE CAN'T GO TRAMPLING OVER SOMEBODY ELSE'S JUST TO MAKE SURE MINDS OKAY OR YOURS. OKAY, OKAY. WELL WELL I WOULD I WOULD SUGGEST LET'S HAVE A MEETING. LET'S SIT DOWN AND DEBRIEF AND TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES. OKAY OKAY. AWESOME. SO IT'S GOOD TO HEAR. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT. I LOVE THIS COMMUNITY. WE DO NOT NEED THIS CONTENTION. WE DON'T. 
          [00:40:05]
WE DON'T. SO WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER OKAY. THAT BEING SAID, AS FAR AS AND NOW NEW CONSTRUCTION IS AN ISSUE. DUST IS AN ISSUE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE, OUR ELDERS CONTROLS THAT KIND OF STUFF. WE MAY NOT REQUIRE THINGS THAT OTHER, MUNICIPALITIES REQUIRE IN THE CONSTRUCTION, AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. YES. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THEIR LITTLE SILT FENCES UP THAT CATCHES SEWER DOES. YES, MA'AM. IF YOU LOOK AT THE COSTCO SITE, IT'S A VERY SIMILAR SITE TO WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH AT TERRA LAGO. IT DOES HAVE A SILT FENCE COMPLETELY SURROUNDING THAT. RIGHT? I DON'T BELIEVE. DO WE REQUIRE THAT IN OUR ELDERS? YES. 
          WE REQUIRE THAT WE'VE GOT THAT. BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY FENCE ARE ARE A WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT REQUIREMENT AS WELL. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THOSE EVERYWHERE. UNFORTUNATELY A SILT FENCE ALONE IS NOT GOING TO CATCH THAT. YEAH BUT BUT THE THING OF IT IS OUR IT IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF IT. YEAH OUR LDR REGULATIONS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OTHER OTHER CITIES. 
          WELL WE ARE FINDING OUT WE ARE JUST ONCE AGAIN WE'RE STILL DOING FIRSTS HERE. SO WE'RE FINDING OUT WHERE THERE'S DEFICIENCIES WHERE THERE'S TOO MUCH. SO THIS IS THE REAL FIRST BIG CONSTRUCTION THAT WE'VE HAD. AND WE'RE FINDING OUT WHERE WE'RE DEFICIENT. SO WE NEED TO ADJUST AND WE NEED TO WE NEED TO, LOOK AT THOSE MOVING FORWAR. WE NEED TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE CITIZENS. BUT ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ORDINANCES AND LAWS IN PLACE. SO THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS. SO EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE. WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH AGAIN. WE WANT TO COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. COUNCILWOMAN, HERNANDEZ BROUGHT IT UP, SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON IT. I AGREE THAT THE LDR SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH THOSE WHEN. AND I JUST WANT US TO SET A PRECEDENCE AND A STANDARD THAT WHEN DEVELOPERS ARE WORKING IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S THEY HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHY THEY'RE DOING ALL THEIR CONSTRUCTION. WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. AND EVEN IF, LIKE YOU SAID, THE TO ENCLOSE IT, COVER IT UP, WRAP IT. HOWEVER THE FENCE IT WHATEVER IT LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE I THINK IF SOMEBODY GET LOOSE IN THAT AREA, WHERE DOES A LAWSUIT LIE? WOULD THAT BE WITH US OR WOULD IT BE WITH THE DEVELOPER? SO THOSE THINGS WE HAVE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT, AND I KNOW LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS THESE ARE FIRSTS. AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT WE JUST REALLY HAVE TO THINK ABOUT AND MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND. ALTHOUGH THIS IS OUR FIRST WE ARE NOT DEFICIENCY DEFICIENT IN WHAT WE WANT. OUR PLACE TO LOOK LIKE. JOIN THE PROCESS. THANK YOU AND JUST KIND OF COMMON SENSE FOLKS. NATURE HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THIS. AND IT'S KIND OF AUTOMATIC. WHEN IT GETS DRY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DUST. AND YES, THEY NEED TO BE RUNNING WATER TRUCKS ABSOLUTELY NEED TO HAVE A SCHEDULE ON THAT. HOWEVER, BEFORE A STORM, WHEN YOU HAVE A HARD WIND COME THROUGH, IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO BLOW SOME DUST. SOME OF IT IS JUST KIND OF A NATURAL. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO ON A CONSTRUCTION SITE, YOU KNOW, CRAP'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE AN EVERYDAY, ORDINARY OCCURRENCE, RIGHT? MR. DEPAULO ANYTHING EXACTLY. JUST TO ADD ON WHAT YOU SAID, I MEAN, YOU TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH. I MEAN, MOTHER NATURE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO CHANGE MOTHER NATURE? YOU CAN'T. THAT STORM THAT CAME THROUGH HERE YESTERDAY, IT ALMOST LIFTED MY BUS UP OFF THE GROUND. I HAD THE AWNINGS OUT, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I HEAR, I FEEL THE SHAKE AND I HEAR THE BANG AND I HAVE TO HURRY UP AND GET THOSE AWNINGS BACK IN BEFORE THEY WERE GOING TO BE GONE. I MEAN, IT WAS A THAT WAS A STORM AND A HALF THAT CAME THROUGH HERE YESTERDAY, YOU KNOW, AND THE WIND, YOU KNOW, SILT FENCE IS GOING TO DO ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, A WATER TRUCK ISN'T GOING TO DO ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT. I MEAN, AND IT'S BEEN SO HOT THAT THEY PUT WATER DOWN. AND BY THE BY THE TIME THAT TRUCK IS TEN FEET IN FRONT OF THE WATER, THEY JUST PUT TEN FEET BEHIND THEM. THAT WATER IS ALREADY EVAPORATED. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PART OF THE PAINS OF GROWTH AND PROGRESS. SO THANK 
          [00:45:05]
YOU. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS? COMMENTS BY OUR VILLAGE MANAGER, YES, 
          [COMMENTS BY VILLAGE MANAGER]
PLEASE. AFTER HEARING SOME OF THE COMMENTS THIS EVENING, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS MEETING, I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU WANT TO FACILITATE THAT AS FAR AS. OKAY, HOW YOU WANT THAT TO CONTINUE, BUT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, MR. VOSS BROUGHT CHANGES, PROPOSED CHANGES TO YOUR SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, AND THAT WAS TURNING THE RESPONSIBILITY OF APPROVAL OVER TO STAFF. I AM NOT GOING TO. THE ONLY REASON I WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT WAS BECAUSE I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WE'D BE PUT IN THIS SITUATION AGAIN. THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW THAT STAFF HAS BEEN PUT IN A POSITION OF GETTING INFORMATION ON APPLICATION THAT HAS TURNED OUT NOT TO BE 100% ACCURATE. THE COMMENT ABOUT THE TWERK THING THAT WAS NEVER US. I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT DOCUMENT, THAT WHATEVER THEY THINK VILLAGE STAFF DID THAT WAS A PRIVATE POST FROM A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL. AS I'VE BEEN TOLD. I AGAIN, I THINK YOU NEED TO LEAVE THIS SPECIAL PERMIT THE WAY IT IS IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE EVENTS BECAUSE THEY NEED TO COME TO COUNCIL AND YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S COMING FORWARD IN THESE EVENTS, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONES THAT ANSWER TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS. THE VILLAGE STAFF WORK FOR YOU. YOU SET POLICY AND EITHER YOU WERE GOING TO ABIDE BY YOUR RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED IN THESE ELDERS, OR WE'RE NOT. AND IF WE'RE NOT, YOU DON'T NEED STAFF. QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S THAT SIMPLE. I MEAN, WE'RE TRYING CODE ENFORCEMENT. I, I HEARD STUFF ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT, NOT WORKING ON SATURDAYS. THEY HAVE WORKED ON SATURDAYS BEFORE AND THEY DO WORK EVENTS. I HAVE TWO CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, WHICH YOU APPROVE. SO YES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE AND MORE OF THIS. WE'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. WE WERE TOLD THERE WOULD BE NO ALCOHOL. THERE WERE PEOPLE GIVING AWAY ALCOHOL SHOTS, WHICH MR. BRIAN APPROACHED. THE DEPUTIES WILL TELL YOU THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY WANTED. NOBODY WAS SHUT DOWN. EVEN THOUGH WE COULD HAVE DONE THAT. WE COULD HAVE VERY EASILY SAID ALCOHOL IS NOT ON YOUR APPLICATION. CAR SHOWS NOT ON YOUR APPLICATION. THIS SEMI STAGE IS NOT ON YOUR APPLICATION. YOU SHOWED A DJ, I HAD THE MAPS. I HAVE THE APPLICATION AND THE PERMIT. THE INSURANCE PERMIT INDICATES THIS WAS GOING TO BE A PICNIC. THAT'S WHAT THE INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS WERE GIVEN ON. IF THEY HAD KNOWN THERE WAS GOING TO BE ALCOHOL THERE, I THINK THE INSURANCE PERMIT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LIABILITY, THIS IS VILLAGE PROPERTY. NO, WE DON'T GO TO CHURCHES AND REGULATE. THAT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY. BUT THIS IS VILLAGE PROPERTY. THIS IS YOUR ASSET. AND IF YOU DON'T WANT US AS STAFF TO DO WHAT WE FEEL IS APPROPRIATE, THESE TRUCKS ON ON THE FIELD, THE IRRIGATION, THANKFULLY NOTHING GOT BUSTED. BUT THESE ARE LIKE 9,500 POUND TRUCKS SO WE CAN PLAN AND WE CAN WORK WITH IT IF WE IF THEY'RE UPFRONT WITH THEIR APPLICATION AT THE VERY BEGINNING. SO THIS IS UP TO COUNCIL IF YOU DON'T. AGAIN IF YOU DON'T WANT US TO ENFORCE THESE REGULATIONS TO PROTECT YOUR ASSET. YES, IT'S A VILLAGE ASSET, BUT IT BELONGS TO EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT IN THIS IN THIS VILLAGE. IT'S NOT JUST THIS ONE GROUP OR ONE ENTITY. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT EVENT AGAIN IN THAT LOCATION, I MEAN, THE PARKING, YOUR RULES ARE VERY CLEAR THINGS THAT IMPACT TRAFFIC, THINGS THAT IMPACT FACILITIES, THINGS THAT IMPACT THE STAFF. YES. THE STAFF WAS THERE ON SATURDAY. THEY WORKED SATURDAYS. WE HAVE STAFF ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS WE HAVE STAGGERED STAFF. SO EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK THERE'S SOMEBODY OUT HERE. SO I YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT'S HARD, FOR, FOR STAFF BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED TO BE THREATENED. THEY DON'T NEED TO BE PUT IN THE SITUATION. THEY'RE JUST DOING THEIR JOB. YES, MA'A. THAT'S IT. MR. DEPAULO, YOU HAVE SOMETHING? WELL, YOU KNOW, WE REWROTE THE LAWS, AND I BELIEVE ATTORNEY VOSS HAS GOT THEM FINISHING THEM UP. RIGHT. THEY GOT. THEY'RE GOING IN FRONT OF THE PCB. OKAY, SO THEY'RE GOING. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, JUST LIKE WE AGREED TO DO, THERE'S NO NEED TO COME IN FRONT OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. IT SHOULD BE DONE INTERNALLY. IF ALL THE REQUIREMENTS ARE MET, THEN THE PERMIT IS ISSUED. IF IT'S NOT, THE PERMIT IS NOT ISSUED. WE DON'T NEED TO DO THIS TO KEEP DOING THIS, WE HAVE A POLICY AND A PROCEDURE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ABIDE BY. AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING MONEY INTO THESE PARKS. AND THEY'RE GOING 
          [00:50:02]
TO BE FOR SPORTS, THEN THEY'VE GOT TO BE FOR SPORTS. IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT WAS MY CONCERN WITH THAT TRACTOR TRAILER IS WHAT WHAT DAMAGE DID IT DO. IRRIGATION DIVOTS IN THE GROUND FROM THE TIRES. YOU KNOW, IT RAINED. SO I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THAT. I'M LIKE, WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR ALL THIS? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE HAVING A HARD ENOUGH TIME WITH WITH MONEY. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A VILLAGE THAT THAT HAS BEE. YOU KNOW, NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE HERE FOR YEARS. WE'VE GOT A WATER PLANT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON REBUILDING. IT'S GOING TO COST MONEY. WE GOT ROADS THAT NEED TO BE REBUILT. AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT, I BELIEVE TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE MONEY. AND WE GOT PARKS AND RECREATION THAT WE'RE PUTTING MONEY INTO. AND ONCE WE FIX THOSE FIELDS FOR BASEBALL AND FOR FOOTBALL AND FOR WHATEVER ELSE WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH IT, WHICH IS ANOTHER POINT OF DISCUSSION TONIGHT THAT THAT I HAVE, BUT ONCE THAT MONEY'S PUT IN THERE, WE'RE NOT WE CAN'T WE CAN'T HAVE TRACTOR TRAILERS AND VEHICLES AND TRAILERS BEING BEING DRIVEN THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE PARKS. 
          I'VE NEVER HEARD OF IT ANYWHERE. AND, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT A TIME OF POWERS PARK. HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOMETHING WORKED OUT IN THE NEXT YEAR TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE FAIRGROUNDS IS ONE OF MY HOPES AND DREAMS IS TO HAVE A FAIRGROUND OUT HERE, AND THEN YOU CAN GO DO IT AT THE FAIRGROUND. BUT YOU KNOW. WE'RE SPENDING MONEY AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE MONEY AND THEN TAKE GOOD MONEY AND TURN IT INTO BAD. JUST IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. I MEAN, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE WHOLE VILLAGE. THE ONLY OTHER TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT I HAVE IS I CONFIRMED WITH MR. MAIN, THEY'RE GOING TO BE OPENING UP THE TRANSPORTATION DEPOT FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY'RE ADDING THREE ROUTES. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, I ALSO HEARD THAT THE GARCIA TRUST IS PROVIDING SCHOOL SUPPLIES TO ALL THE ELEMENTARY STUDENTS. EXCEPT FOR BACKPACKS. YEAH. AND THAT THEY'RE INVESTING IN THIS COMMUNITY IN THAT WAY. I MEAN, REGARDLESS OF THE DUST ISSUE HE DOES, THEY DO TRY TO DO THINGS TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF 
          [APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]
AGENDA? MOTION A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER. ANY DISCUSSION, ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION? NO, MADAM MAYOR. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE. 
          [CONSENT AGENDA]
PASSED UNANIMOUSLY CONSENT AGENDA. DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? MOTION. 
          MOTION IS MADE BY COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER. ANY DISCUSSION, ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION? NO, MA'AM. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. PASSED UNANIMOUSLY 
          [3.  Authorization for Mayor to Sign Lease with Martin County Board of County Commissioners to Locate Antennas on Their Communication Towers
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ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER THREE. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S THE, THE LEASE. IT'S A LEASE? YEAH, THAT'S THE LEASE, PART OF OUR. I KNOW IT WAS ASKED THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THE METER INSTALLATION IS THE SOFTWARE THAT THE RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO MONITOR THEIR USAGE AS WELL AS OUR STAFF BEING ABLE TO DO READINGS MORE REMOTELY, PART OF THAT SOFTWARE. AND THE ISSUE IS FOR, TWO ANTENNAS TO BE UTILIZED SO THAT WE HAVE BEST COVERAGE FOR THAT TECHNOLOGY AND THE, THE ABILITY TO DO THOSE THINGS. SO WE REACHED OUT TO MARTIN COUNTY. THEY HAVE A TOWER ON BIG MOUND PARK, AND THEY HAVE A TOWER OUT ON THE CORNER OF ALLAPATTAH AND WHATEVER THAT OTHER ROAD IS OVER THERE, ON THE BACKSIDE OF TERRA LAGO. THAT'S THAT'S ON SIX. SO YOU'RE TALKING 609 THERE AND LITTLE RANCH OR. YEAH YEP, YEP. YES. OKAY. SO WE REACHED OUT TO THEM. THEY CAME OUT AND WITH US THEIR IT FOLKS AND LOOKED AT IT, LOOKED WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO. AND THEY AGREED THAT WE COULD UTILIZE THOSE AND THOSE TWO TOWERS, THE TOWERS ARE NOT CURRENTLY BEING UTILIZED. SO THEY I REACHED OUT TO THEM AND SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO. THEY SENT US A LEASE, MR. VOSS IS GOING THROUGH THE TERMS OF THAT LEASE, AND THERE'S STILL SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TWEAK. SO THE REQUEST IS THAT ONCE MR. VOSS IS COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE LEASE AGREEMENTS, THAT THE MAYOR BE ALLOWED TO, SIGN THEM AND GET THEM EXECUTED BACK TO THE COUNTY. SO WE'RE WORKING ON SOME SPECIFICS. THEY HAD INITIALLY WANTED TO CHARGE US A SMALL FEE. 
          I'M ASKING TO HAVE THAT WAIVED, AS WELL AS THE INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE US TO HAVE AN INCREASE IN OUR PREMIUMS. SO I'M ASKING I'M WORKING WITH THEM. SO I 
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THINK WE'LL GET ALL THAT RESOLVED. AND ONCE WE DO, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? NO. YOU SUMMARIZED IT PERFECTLY. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION WITH THOSE MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND WITH THOSE. YEAH. AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO AUTHORIZE YOUR EXECUTION OF THE AGREEMENT UPON MY APPROVAL FOR LEGAL SUFFICIENCY. OKAY. IN SORTING OUT THESE ISSUES. OKAY. AND SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO WITH WITH THAT EFFECT. SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES. YES, MA'AM. MADAM MAYOR, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. HOW MUCH IS THE LEASE? BECAUSE IT JUST SAYS A PORTION OF THE 18 MILLION. YEAH, WELL, THE LEASE, THE LEASE THAT WE DID AT THE TIME I DID THE AGENDA. I DID NOT HAVE THE LEASE YET. THAT'S WHY I STRUCTURED IT THE WAY I DID. I JUST WANTED TO GET IT IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. IT WAS ABOUT $13,350.62 A YEAR PER TOWER. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT 2700 AND SOME 2701, AND YOU'RE WORKING TO GET THAT WAIVED? YES, MA'AM. MY ARGUMENT TO THEM IS THE VILLAGE RESIDENTS PAY COUNTY WIDE TAXES. AND I KNOW THAT PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AT THE COUNTY IS FUNDED THROUGH THEIR GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS COUNTY WIDE TAXE. 
          SO IF WE HAVE TO PAY THAT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE RATEPAYERS. AND THEN THOSE FOLKS ARE PAYING TWICE. DEVIL. GOOD POINT. THANK YOU. SO WOULD WE BE GETTING A COPY WHEN OF LIKE OR AT LEAST I JUST WANT A DRAFT COPY OR SOMETHING BECAUSE THERE'S YEAH, THERE'S NOTHING I CAN PROVIDE YOU A COPY OF THE CURRENT DRAFTS OF THE LEASES. THEY'RE THEY'RE STANDARD, THEY'RE STANDARD TOWER LEASE AGREEMENTS, I'VE, I'VE REVIEWED THE FORM OF THIS ONE GENERALLY, EXCEPT FOR THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN POINTED OUT THERE. THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH STANDARD TOWER LEASE AGREEMENTS. I'D BE GLAD TO SHARE THEM. AND NORMALLY A TOWER LEASE IS INTENDED FOR A CARRIER LIKE AT&T OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHY THOSE INSURANCE RESTRICTIONS OR REQUIREMENTS ARE IN THERE. SO I POINTED THAT OUT TO THEM AS WELL. THIS IS A MUNICIPALITY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WORK WITH THIS GUYS. SO ANOTHER QUESTION IS, SO AFTER THIS LEASE IS APPROVED, HOW LONG WILL IT BE FOR, YOU KNOW, US TO BE ABLE TO WITH THE METERS THEY WANT THE METERS ALREADY INSTALLED. THE COUNTY DID AGREE TO LET US GO AHEAD AND START THE INSTALLATION OF THE ANTENNAS. SO WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT THE LAST COUPLE DAYS. SO THE METERS ARE INSTALLED. ONCE WE GET THESE ANTENNAS UP, THEN THESE WILL BE HAVING TESTING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS WORKING THE WAY IT IS. AND THEN WE WILL BE SENDING OUT NOTICES FOR THE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THIS APPLICATION THAT THEY CAN PULL UP ON THEIR COMPUTER OR THEIR PHONE OR WHATEVER IT IS TO MONITOR THEIR USAGE. AND I THOUGHT I WAS DONE, BUT SOMETHING CAME UP. IF BECAUSE THESE ANTENNAS ARE PUT ON A TOWER, CORRECT. SO HOW DO WE HAVE LIKE AN EXTRA ANTENNA JUST IN CASE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THERE'S A LIGHTNING STRIKE AND BABOOM, LIKE JUST GOES OUT? WELL, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, EVEN IF WE LOST ONE OF THE USE OF ONE OF THE ANTENNAS, WE'D STILL HAVE THE ABILITY. JUST WOULDN'T BE AS STRONG AS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO INCREASE THAT COVERAGE. OKAY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, LIKE, A BACKUP OR SOMETHING. YES MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND, THE QUESTION OF THE LEASE, IS IT A YEARLY LEASE? TEN YEARS, 50 YEARS, FIVE YEARS. I THINK IT WAS, I THINK IT WAS, PRETTY FAIRLY. IT ALSO INCLUDED 3% INCREASES ANNUALLY, WHICH I'VE ALSO HAS TO BE. SO DID THAT GET REMOVED? THE 3? I'VE. I'VE MADE THAT REQUEST. OH, YEAH. YEAH. IT'S IT PROCEEDS IN FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS. FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS. OKAY. AND AGAIN, JUST JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO WATER AND WASTEWATER, BILLING AND SO ON, THIS IS INCREDIBLY COMMON. ANYBODY WHO HAS A TOWER IN AN AREA, WHEN A MUNICIPALITY IMPLEMENTS THESE NEWER SYSTEMS, YOU KNOW, YOU GO ON TO AN ATTACK ONTO A TOWER TO UTILIZE IT IN THE FUTURE SOMEHOW. IF THESE TOWERS, YOU KNOW, GO AWAY AFTER ONE OF THE FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS HERE, THERE WILL BE OTHER ALTERNATIVES AS WELL. IT'S JUST THESE ARE THE BEST PLACED, BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE CAN ALWAYS FIND THE HIGHEST PINE TREE. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND HAS BEEN SECONDED. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION? NO, MADAM MAYOR, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. PASSED UNANIMOUSLY ON TO ITEM NUMBER 
          [4.  Appointment of an Indiantown Resident to the At-Large Planning Zoning and Appeals Board (PZAB)]
FOUR. APPOINTMENT OF AN INDIAN TOWN RESIDENT TO THE AT LARGE PLANNING AND ZONING APPEALS BOARD. YES, MA'AM. WHEN, COUNCILWOMAN PALMER WAS APPOINTED TO THE COUNCIL THAT 
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CREATED, VACANCY ON THE PCB BOARD FOR AN AT LARGE POSITION, THAT POSITION, HER TERM WENT THROUGH 2026. WAS IT EIGHT ONE? WHAT'S THE DATE? 9191 2026. THE AT LARGE POSITION GOES THROUGH NINE ONE 2026. AND I KNOW DURING THE CONVERSATION, COUNCILWOMAN PALMER ASKED IF HOW LONG? PCB MEMBER WILLIAMS TERM WAS AND THAT EXPIRES 881 21 2024 WHEN THE INITIAL SEAT OF, COUNCILMAN STONE WOULD HAVE WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER. YES. OKAY SO WE'RE JUST WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION HERE. OKAY. SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN ORDER FOR OUR NEW LEE, INSTALLED COUNCIL MEMBER TO. I THINK I THINK THE SEE IF IT'S THE CONSENSUS OF THIS, OF THIS BODY TO ROLL. MR. WILLIAMS, IF HE IS WILLING, FROM THAT SEAT THAT'S GOING TO EXPIRE ON EIGHT 124 INTO THE AT LARGE. YEAH. IS THAT IS THAT THE CONSENSUS THAT I'M, I'M HEARING INTO THAT AT LARGE? POSITION THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO SERVE UNTIL NINE ONE OF 26? ARE YOU MR. WILLIAMS HAPPENS TO BE HERE THIS EVENING, SIR. YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS AND WILLINGNESS TO DISCERN THAT WOULD OPEN UP THE SEAT THAT MISS PALMER OR COUNCILWOMAN PALMER WOULD WANT TO APPOINT? WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO. YOU WANT ME TO MAKE YOUR CHOICE? I KNEW HE WAS COMING. OKAY, WELL, COME ON, I KNEW IT WAS COMING. GOOD. OKAY I WOULDN'T MIND. ADDRESSING THE VILLAGE COUNCIL IN YOUR RESPECTIVE PLACES, I WOULDN'T MIND SERVING ON THE BOARD, BUT JUST TO STAY WHERE I AM, OKAY? IF THAT'S UPON YOU. OKAY. NOW, WHAT? WELL, NOW, IF WE MOVE YOU AT LARGE. OKAY. SO YOU'LL SERVE UNTIL NINE ONE OF 2026. ARE YOU AGREEABLE TO THAT? YES, I AM OKAY. SO THEN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE PCA BOARD, WHEN THEY TAKE ACTION IN, IN DETERMINING EITHER A CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR, YOU DO NOT WISH TO SERVE IN THIS CAPACITY. OKAY, OKAY. SO THAT'S YEAH THAT'S ON THE PCA. YOU GOT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT OKAY. YEAH. RIGHT. RIGHT. I KNEW IT WAS COMING. THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST TRYING TO SAVE A LITTLE TIME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WELL, WELL, WE KNOW WE KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT AND WE KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. THANK YOU. SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER. OKAY. THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBER WILLIAMS. SO THAT THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT THE AT LARGE. HOWEVER, WHEN I'M SWORN IN. RIGHT? YEAH. FOR MY TERM, MY FOUR YEARS. CORRECT RIGHT THERE. SO. YEAH. WELL SHE APPOINT THEN OR WILL SHE APPOINT NOW. SO, IF, IF THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO MOVE MR. WILLIAMS OVER, THEY'LL THEN BE A VACANCY IN, IN THE SPOT THAT YOU WOULD BE ENTITLED TO APPOINT INTO. SO, IF, COUNCIL MEMBER IF YOU WERE TO APPOINT SOMEBODY, THEIR FIRST TERM WOULD JUST BE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS UNTIL TECHNICALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DEEMED ELECTED ON YOUR ELECTION TIME AND THEN YOU CAN REAPPOINT THAT SAME PERSON FOR. 
          SO THERE'S A VACANCY. THERE WOULD BE A VACANCY. NOW WITH THIS MOVING AROUND THAT YOU COULD APPOINT INTO IMMEDIATELY. WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT SOMEONE. IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. 
          OKAY. WELL, LET'S LET'S LET'S DEAL WITH WELL, LET'S DEAL WITH MR. WILLIAMS FIRST. OKAY? OKAY. 
          LET'S ROLL HIM. SINCE HE WE SEE HIS WILLINGNESS TO, TO GO FROM ONE, SEAT TO THE OTHER AS FAR AS TIMING GOES, TO SERVE IN THAT AT LARGE POSITION UNTIL NINE ONE OF 2026. DO I HEAR A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. SO MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ AND IT IS SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ANY COMMENTS? NO, MA'AM. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. CONGRATULATIONS. MR. WILLIAMS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO CONTINUE. CONTINUE TO SERVE. OKAY SO NOW WE'RE DEALING WITH THE SEAT THAT, THAT COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO FILL UNTIL EIGHT ONE OF 2024. SO COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER, DO YOU HAVE A PERSON THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT? YES, I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT JANIE WOODY TO THAT POSITION. NOW, AN APPOINTMENT DOES NOT NEED, 
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COUNCIL APPROVAL. DO WE NEED. THAT'S CORRECT. FOR THE FIVE INDIVIDUAL ONES. NO, THERE'S NO THERE'S NO NEED FOR APPROVAL. JANIE WOODY, JUST, CAN WE GET MISS MCBRIDE, CONTACT INFORMATION? YEAH, HER CONTACT INFORMATION. OKAY. SHE'S RIGHT HERE. OKAY. RIGHT. AND THEN, BETWEEN MISS MCBRIDE AND MISS MENDOZA, THEY HANDLE THE CONTACTING THE MEMBERS AND SETTING UP THE AGENDA AND GETTING YOU UP TO. SO THAT YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S COMING ON THAT THAT, SO LOOK FOR EMAILS FROM THEM. SO, MISS WOODY, CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. THANK YOU. WE LOOK WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT OUT OKAY. AND THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMER, FOR BEING SO, EFFICIENT IN HAVING SOMEONE TO. YEAH, YOU ARE, AREN'T YOU? YES, I AM, OKAY. SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, MR. FLORIO. MR. 
          [5.  Finance Department Update
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FLORIO IS DOING HIS FINANCIAL UPDATE FOR THE COUNCIL, GETTING US READY FOR BUDGET. OH, AND I SEE THAT HUGE SMILE ON HIS FACE. HE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS COUNCIL MEMBERS. MAYOR. VICE MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. I HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS FOR YOU TONIGHT. ONE IS, AN UPDATE ON OUR TIRE. 
          TYLER TECHNOLOGIES ERP PROJECT. YOU MAY RECALL MANY MOONS AGO, WE COUNCIL ADOPTED, APPROVED THE ACQUISITION OF A NEW ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING SYSTEM THROUGH THE USE OF ARPA FUNDS, WE HAVE BEEN BUSILY WORKING ON SETTING THAT UP AND GOING THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT STEPS TO HAVE A GO LIVE LATER THIS YEAR. AND, EARLY NEXT YEAR. SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE STAND ON THIS. 
          SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THIS SLIDE HERE. OKAY ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE. 
          IS THAT MOVING RENEE. FOR YOU OKAY I WILL DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. GO TO THE NEXT ONE HERE. YOU CAN MOVE PAST THAT OKAY. ONE MORE, ONE MORE. YEAH. ONE MORE. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. OKAY. SO JANUARY, OF THIS YEAR, SUBSEQUENT TO COUNCIL APPROVING AN AGREEMENT WITH AVERO ADVISORS IN DECEMBER OF 2023, WE STARTED WITH WHAT WE CALL A DISCOVERY PROCESS. SO THE ADVISORS TEAM CAME ON SITE, AND I'M GETTING SOME FEEDBACK. SORRY I'M HERE MYSELF. CAME ON SITE TO THE VILLAGE AND DID WHAT WE CALL, THEY DID A PROJECT KICKOFF MEETING AND MET ALL THE VILLAGE STAFF AND MANAGEMENT AND, SPENT A LOT OF TIME DOING WHAT THEY CALL AN INVENTORY REVIEW OF ALL OF OUR BUSINESS PROCESSES AND HOW WE DO BUSINESS HERE CURRENTLY. SO THEY TOOK A LOT OF SAMPLE RECORDS AND DOCUMENTS AND CONDUCTED A LOT OF INTERVIEWS AND DEVELOPED, A MATRIX OF HOW THE, VILLAGE CURRENTLY DOES BUSINESS ACROSS THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS FOR FINANCE, IN PARTICULAR, COMMUNITY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WATER AND SEWER UTILITIES, PARKS AND RECREATION, AND, WHAT THEY DID IS THEY THEN EVALUATED THAT INFORMATION AND THEY STARTED TO ESTABLISH WHAT THEY CALLED FUTURE VISIONING, FOR THE WAY THAT THE VILLAGE WILL CONDUCT BUSINESS INTERNALLY GOING FORWARD. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS EVALUATE HOW THE VILLAGE DOES BUSINESS TODAY AND WHAT DOES THE SOFTWARE NEED YOU TO DO TO MAKE IT EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT, AND HOW DO WE CHANGE AND PIVOT OUR INTERNAL PROCESSES TOWARD THAT NEW SOFTWARE SOLUTION. SO THAT IS WHERE WE THEN CAME UP WITH, MOVE THE NEXT SLIDE THERE. RENEE SO WHAT WE DID IS WE THEY CAME UP WITH FUTURE STATE MAPS AND THESE ARE ACTUALLY FLOW CHARTS. WE HAVE THEM. THEY DID IT FOR EVERY FUNCTIONAL AREA IN THE VILLAGE, FLOW CHARTS, ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, RECEIVABLE, RECORDS MANAGEMENT, WE DID WORK WITH FINANCIAL REPORTING, AND SO WE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS. AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS IS, IS A FLOW CHART. AND THERE'S A NARRATIVE THAT GOES WITH IT AS WELL THAT EXPLAINS REALLY HOW WE WILL NEED TO BE DOING BUSINESS GOING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE. THIS SERVES A COUPLE OF PURPOSES, NOT ONLY FOR OUR OWN BENEFIT, BUT IT'S ALSO FOR THE PEOPLE AT TYLER TECHNOLOGIES THEMSELVES, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE IMPLEMENTATION ON THEIR SIDE, 
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AND THEY THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND HOW TO BEST UTILIZE THE SOFTWARE FOR OUR FUTURE NEEDS. OKAY. YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. RENEE OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE AT A PHASE WHERE ALL THAT FUTURE STATE MAPPING AND PLANNING HAS BEEN DONE, AND WE ARE I'VE BEEN VERY BUSY FOR MANY, MANY WEEKS NOW ON DOING CONFIGURATIONS. SO WE'RE SETTING UP SECURITY CREDENTIALS, AUTHORIZATIONS, END USER ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. AND WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE EVERYONE IN THE VILLAGE IS CONDUCTING TRAINING. THEY'RE DOING ONLINE TRAINING AND LEARNING HOW TO WORK WITHIN THE DIFFERENT MODULES THAT THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS TO. AND THE NEXT PART OF THIS WILL BE, ACTUAL GUIDES AND DOCUMENTS THAT ARE WHERE ADVISORS WILL BE PROVIDING US. SO THEY'RE GIVING US A USER GUIDES KIND OF CHEAT SHEETS. AND HOW CERTAIN STEPS AND FUNCTIONS ARE EXECUTED WITHIN THE SOFTWARE. AND THAT IS, AGAIN, WE'RE AT THAT POINT NOW WHERE THAT END USER TRAINING WILL BE GOING ON. GO TO NEXT SLIDE HERE RENEE. THE FINANCE PIECE, ALL THE FINANCIAL PIECES, IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER REALLY GO LIVE HERE. FIRST WEEK OF I SHOULD SAY SECOND WEEK OF SEPTEMBER WILL BE THE FINANCIAL PIECE. PURCHASING CASHIERING FOR PARKS AND RECREATION, A LOT OF OUR PROCUREMENT MANAGEMENT CONTRACTS MANAGEMENT WILL BE IN THAT SAME WINDOW, BANK RECONCILIATION ASSETS, PROJECT ACCOUNTING AND INVENTORY. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A VERY BUSY SEPTEMBER OCTOBER. THAT'S GOING TO BE THE, AGAIN, THE CORNERSTONE, THE LINCHPIN OF HOW EVERYTHING WORKS. EVERYTHING PIVOTS OFF THE FINANCIAL PIECE. 
          AND THEN EVERYTHING SUBSEQUENT TO THAT KIND OF FILTERS OUT, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE THERE. 
          RENEE SO FINANCE AGAIN, IS DONE IN SEPTEMBER. WE WILL BE LIVE WITH THAT, JUST PRIOR TO THAT, WE WILL BE IMPLEMENTING WHAT WE CALL OUR, TYLER CONTENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, WHICH IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO MANAGE AND MAINTAIN AND ARCHIVE, PUBLIC RECORDS, FINANCIAL RECORDS FOR THE VILLAGE. SO THAT WAY THOSE WILL BE DIGITIZED AND WE WILL RETAIN THAT, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME DISCOVERY TO SEE HOW MUCH OF THAT WE CAN UTILIZE WITH CLERK RECORDS, WITH NONFINANCIAL, BUT THIS IS WHAT COMES WITH THE SOFTWARE. SO WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE THAT. BUT THAT'S A WHOLE MODULE THAT WE DEAL WITH. HCM IS HUMAN RESOURCES MANAGEMENT. AND THAT IS REALLY TIED TO PAYROLL. SO NOVEMBER DECEMBER WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH THE PAYROLL COMPONENT AND GO LIVE WITH PAYROLL DECEMBER. AND THE LAST PIECE WILL BE UTILITY BILLING IN JANUARY, WE'LL BE STARTING WITH THAT IN DECEMBER. I WISH THAT WAS SOONER. I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. BUT UTILITY BILLING WILL BE GO LIVE. COME JANUARY 2025, EVEN THOUGH WE'LL HAVE POST, IMPLEMENTATION SUPPORT, AND AGAIN, IT'S BEEN JUST A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF LEARNING, A LOT, I'VE DONE STUFF LIKE THIS BEFORE, BUT NOT QUITE TO THE EXTENT IS THIS, IT'S BEEN VERY INTERESTING. I THINK OVERALL HAS BEEN A GOOD FIRM TO WORK WITH. AND THE TYLER TECH PEOPLE HAVE BEEN REALLY, REALLY GOOD. WE HAVE REALLY GOOD PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM ON THAT SIDE. 
          AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE REALLY GOOD SUPPORT WITH IT GOING FORWARD, SO A LOT OF THESE THINGS AND AGAIN, THE COMPONENTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE, THAT WILL BE MUCH MORE CUSTOMER FACING AND RESIDENT FACING IS GOING TO BE IN THE E-PAL MODULE COME OCTOBER, NOVEMBER. THAT'S THE, THE PERMITTING AND LICENSING MODULE WHERE INDIVIDUALS WILL BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR CERTAIN PERMITS AND APPLICATIONS ONLINE AND THEY'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE MORE INTERACTIVE WITH THE VILLAGE IN TERMS OF SUBMITTING WORK ORDERS FROM THE FIELD OR MAKING NOTE OF DIFFERENT CONDITIONS OUT IN THE FIELD. SO IT'S GOING TO REALLY MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE, WE STILL AGAIN, HAVE SEVERAL MONTHS TO GO ON THIS, BUT I THINK WE'RE MAKING A REALLY GOOD PROGRESS. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF IT IN A NUTSHELL. ON THE TYLER TECH STUFF. THAT'S IT'S VERY EXCITING TO SEE YOU GUYS BRINGING IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. OH, WE'RE GETTING THERE. YEAH, WE'RE GETTING THERE. I MEAN WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO, BUT, I'M DEFINITELY COMING DOWN THE WIRE WITH THE FINANCE PIECE. AND THAT'S BEEN THAT'S BEEN A LOT TO PUT INTO THAT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE IT. I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. SO MUCH OF WHAT WE DO RIGHT NOW IS SO MANUAL. I MEAN, THE VILLAGE MANAGER KNOWS ABOUT THAT. AND HAVING ALL THIS STUFF TOGETHER WILL BE, FINALLY WILL BE A GREAT, GREAT WIN FOR US. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. YES MA'AM. BEFORE YOU CONTINUE, COUNCILWOMAN. SO IT SAYS PROJECT STATUS, UTILITY BUILDING. 
          JANUARY 20TH, 25, I KNOW PREVIOUSLY WE HAD HAD A CONVERSATION IN REGARDS OF WE WERE GOING TO DO BILLING IN-HOUSE. WILL THAT HAPPEN AFTER THAT FACT OR WHEN WILL THAT HAPPEN? OR IS IT THAT SHOULD HAPPEN, IN AND I WOULD I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE WOULD BE, PROCESSING BILLS IN JANUARY FOR PROBABLY THE FEBRUARY 1ST INVOICE DATE. OKAY. BECAUSE 
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THAT'S HOW WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING THAT NOW, IS THAT WE USUALLY PROCESS DURING THE MONTH OF JANUARY FOR THE UPCOMING FEBRUARY. THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT THAT, I MEAN, THOSE OF YOU OBVIOUSLY WHO HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, FAMILIAR WITH, INDIAN TOWN COMPANY AND THEIR BILLING METHOD. AND SO SOME OF THE THINGS WE DO NOW, THE BASE FACILITY CHARGE, THEY TEND TO BILL AHEAD AND THE USAGE CHARGE IS THE MONTH BEHIND. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RECONCILE THAT WHEN WE GO LIVE WITH THE NEW SYSTEM AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE, YOU KNOW, BILLING DATES SHOULD BE THE THING THAT'S REALLY, REALLY GREAT ABOUT THE BILLING PIECE OF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE NOW HAVE A COMPLETELY AUTOMATED METERING SYSTEM, SO WE WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT DELAYS OR LAG TIME WITH REEDS IN THE FIELD. IT'LL BE REAL TIME. WE CAN STILL MAINTAIN A SINGLE BILLING CYCLE LIKE WE DO NOW. IT'S ONLY 2000 CUSTOMERS, BUT WE MAY CHANGE THAT OVER TIME. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEE WHAT KIND OF WORKLOAD IT IS FOR US, TO TRY TO BUILD 2000 CUSTOMERS IN A WEEK, THAT MAY BE EASIER THAN WE THINK, OR IT MAY NOT THAT MAY, YOU KNOW, PRECIPITATE SOME SORT OF CHANGE IN CYCLE BILLING WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BUILD DIFFERENT SECTIONS, SECTIONS OF THE CITY, DIFFERENT TIMES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OTHER CITIES DO THAT, THAT ARE MUCH LARGER THAN US. SO WE'LL HAVE TO SEE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO THROUGH SOME OF THE TESTING AND THE CONFIGURATION AND SET UP WITH THAT, THAT WILL, THAT WILL, I THINK PROBABLY COME TO LIGHT AND WE'LL GET WE'LL GET A MUCH BETTER IDEA ON WHAT'S THE TIME COMMITMENT TO DO THIS IN-HOUSE BASED ON THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE, AND CAN WE CONTINUE TO DO IT AS A SINGLE CYCLE, OR DO WE NEED TO SET THIS UP, YOU KNOW, WITH MULTIPLE CYCLES FOR BILLING. SO WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES. SO WHEN, WHEN THAT HAPPENS WILL WE BE ISSUING LIKE A LETTER TO THE TO THE RATEPAYERS. YES BEFORE JUST, JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT SEE A MISS OR NOT A MISHAP BUT LIKE, LIKE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BILLING AND I THINK THE BILLS WILL BE SIMILAR. 
          I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT IS, YOU KNOW, THE COMPANY THAT WE CURRENTLY DO BUSINESS WITH FOR MERCHANT SERVICE, WHICH IS CREDIT CARD AND ACH PAYMENT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE. THAT'S ALL GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ONBOARD CUSTOMERS, YOU KNOW, THROUGH A DIFFERENT MERCHANT PROVIDER. AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME. SO THAT SHOULD BE ALL THE PROCESS THAT WE PUT IN PLACE BEFORE WE GO LIVE, OR CERTAINLY BEFORE WE HAVE BILLS DUE. YEAH, AND MAKE SURE THAT'S BEEN KIND OF WORKED OUT. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG PROJECT, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME AND THERE WILL ALWAYS BE THOSE CUSTOMERS THAT WE UNFORTUNATELY MISS, OR THEY'RE OUT OF TOWN OR THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE OR THEY DIDN'T GET AROUND TO ONBOARD TO THE NEW MERCHANT ACCOUNT TO, YOU KNOW, SET UP THEIR CREDIT CARD OR TO SET UP THEIR ACH FORM OR WHAT HAVE YOU, SO THAT WE MAY HAVE SOME OF THAT IN THE INITIAL COUPLE OF MONTHS, BUT WE'LL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BE PROACTIVE WITH THAT AND LET PEOPLE KNOW. YEAH, OKAY. SO WE'LL LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THAT. THE CHANGE OF YEAH, BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN WE CHANGED FROM INDIAN TOWN WATER COMPANY TO VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, THERE WAS. YEAH, SURE. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. 
          YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. THE ONE THING. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN FERNANDEZ FOR THAT, THE ONE THING I NOTICED IN AND WE'RE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. WE HAVE TO BE VERY PROACTIVE IN LETTING PEOPLE KNOW CHANGE IS COMING. CHANGE IS COMING, AND IT'S. WE CAN'T STOP IT. WE UNDERSTAND SMART GROWTH AND SMART THIS AND SMART THAT. BUT CHANGE IS COMING. I THINK WHAT WHAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARD IS GREAT. AND I LIKE THIS. AND IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS. SO WE'RE JUST PLAYING CATCH UP. YES, MA'AM. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. BRAND NEW. 
          YEAH. WE'RE JUST BRAND NEW RIGHT. YEAH. RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY. BUT WE'RE GETTING THERE. YES, MA'AM. YEAH. NO, THIS HAS BEEN THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE VILLAGE TO GET THIS IN PLACE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE ESSENTIAL TO HAVE THIS AS WE MOVE TO THE, YOU KNOW, SUBSEQUENT, YOU KNOW, FUTURE YEARS. AND IT WOULD REALLY BECOME ON THE GROWTH. YEAH. IT'S A MUST RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY IT IS. YES YEAH. I HAD ONE MORE THING BEFORE. YES, MA'AM. SO WHEN BECAUSE I KNOW ANOTHER ANOTHER THING IN THIS IS DID WE DO THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW DO I EXPLAIN IT? IF A RESIDENT HAS LET'S JUST SAY A POTHOLE IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE AND HOW DO THEY LET THE VILLAGE KNOW? IS THAT IMPLEMENTED IN. YEAH, THAT IS PART OF THE EPL, PROCESS. 
          THAT'S THE, THE ENTERPRISE PERMITTING AND LICENSING. THERE'S A WORK ORDER, THERE'S A WORK ORDER MODULE THAT IS A PIECE OF THAT, AND SO THEY, THE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO MAKE NOTE. LIKE I SAID, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE NOTE OF DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONS OUT IN THE FIELD OR YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY OBSERVE DOWNED TREE, YOU KNOW, POTHOLE OR WHAT HAVE YOU. AND THAT SHOULD COME IN AND, MR. NOLAN WILL BE 
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STEADFAST AT HIS DESK WAITING FOR EACH WORK ORDER TICKET TO COME IN, AND WE'LL RUN RIGHT OUT THERE AND GET THAT POTHOLE FILLED RIGHT ASAP. I I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT. AND THEN FOR YOUR FINANCIALS. YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT IS GOING TO BE AIRING OUT. WILL THAT BE WILL THE RESIDENTS OF UNIONTOWN BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT IMMEDIATELY OR WOULD IT TAKE SOME TIME FOR US TO GO SEE WHAT CHECKS ARE BEING DISTRIBUTED? WHAT CHECKS ARE EVERY ALL THE EXPENSES? YEAH, I THINK, HAVING A MUCH BETTER LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY THROUGH THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM WILL BE EASIER TO DO. AND WE WANT TO DO THAT. I THINK I'VE TALKED WITH THE VILLAGE MANAGER BEFORE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PROCESS IN THE COUNTY. YOU KNOW, BOTH OF US HAVING BEEN, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY LEVEL BEFORE WHERE, DISBURSEMENTS ARE AN AGENDA ITEM. THAT'S CALLED THE WARRANT LIST. IT'S UNDER FLORIDA STATUTES. AND, CITY GOVERNMENTS, I BELIEVE, DO THIS. MR. VOSE CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO THAT. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WAY BACK WHEN I WAS IN CITY GOVERNMENT YEARS AGO, AND I DON'T HONESTLY, I DON'T RECALL A WARRANT LIST PROCESS THAT WE PROBABLY MAYBE WE DID. I JUST DON'T REMEMBER. I JUST DON'T REMEMBER IT. BUT THAT'S PART OF THE STATUTE. YOU HAVE TO DO THAT. YOU PUT THAT WARRANT LIST ON THE AGENDA. AND, DIFFERENT COUNTIES DO IT DIFFERENT WAYS, I CAN TELL YOU IN PALM BEACH COUNTY, JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MUCH VOLUME THAT THEY BATCH AND GROUP DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRANSACTIONS LIKE THESE ARE THE TENS OF MILLIONS OF ACH, AND THESE ARE THE TENS OF MILLIONS OF CHECKS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER COUNTIES, I'VE SEEN LIKE INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, THEY ACTUALLY LIST EVERY SINGLE PAYEE THAT GOT PAID ON THAT RUN, YOU KNOW? SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON, ON HOW THEY DO IT, AND THAT'S I THINK, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU WOULD BE, MAYBE A COUNCIL, INPUT AND DISCRETION IN TERMS OF THE LEVEL OF DETAIL AND HOW YOU WANT TO SEE THAT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WARRANT LIST AS AN AGENDA ITEM AND FOR OTHER INFORMATION TO BE A LOT MORE OUTWARD FACING FOR THE RESIDENTS. SOME OF OUR, YOU KNOW, INVESTMENT ACTIVITY, INTEREST, EARNINGS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE BUDGET TO DATE. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE. IT WILL BE SO MUCH EASIER TO DO IT WITH THIS SOFTWARE. SO WILL THE COUNCIL HAVE SOME KIND OF TRAINING? YEAH. I MEAN I THINK THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT LEVEL OF, OF ACCESS THE SYSTEM IS GOING TO HAVE FOR NON-REGISTERED USERS. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, IN TERMS OF YOUR QUESTION AS FAR AS TRAINING, CERTAINLY WE CAN SHOW YOU WHAT REPORTS ARE AVAILABLE AND MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME SORT OF LIKE REPORTS ON AN AUTO DISTRIBUTION OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. WE COULD WE CAN DO THAT. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I CAN ACCESS STUFF THAT, YOU KNOW, THE EVERYDAY RESIDENT THAT. YEAH. LET ME ASK THIS TRANSPARENCY WOULD MEAN WHETHER IT BE A COUNCIL MEMBER OR A VILLAGE RESIDENT WOULD BE ABLE TO GO ONLINE AND BE ABLE TO PULL THAT SAME INFORMATION. SO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE LIKE A LITTLE TUTORIAL, SOMEWHERE? I'M SURE THEY PROBABLY HAVE SOME FOR THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, TO UTILIZE THIS SYSTEM. WATCH US. YOU KNOW, TWO MINUTE TUTORIAL OR WHATEVER. 
          WHAT TO I'M SURE THEY HAVE SOMETHING. THERE ARE THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THAT. I HAVEN'T THAT HAS NOT BEEN SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN ANY OF THE CONFIGURATION OR SETUP THAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR. I WILL ASK THEM ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF PUBLIC VIEW AND PUBLIC FACING. 
          YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I THINK WE WANT TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS WE CAN. THE OTHER THING, THOUGH, THAT, WE JUST HAVE TO ALWAYS BE MINDFUL OF IS THAT SOMETIMES CERTAIN FINANCIAL RECORDS DO, YOU KNOW, INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, CONFIDENTIAL OR RESTRICTED INFORMATION. AND USUALLY THAT'S WHY A LOT OF STUFF GOES TO THE PUBLIC RECORDS PROCESS INITIALLY IS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT RELEASING STUFF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, CONFIDENTIAL OR RESTRICTED. BUT I THINK JUST GENERAL LEDGER INFORMATION, BUDGET, YEAR TO DATE, THAT STUFF THAT WE SHOULD HAVE OUT THERE PRETTY, PRETTY EASILY AND REGULARLY. OKAY THANK YOU. YEAH. AND IF I CAN JUST, MISS MCBRIDE SHOWED ME IN OUR ON OUR WEBSITE. NOW, IF YOU GO ON DOWN AT THE BOTTOM TO THE CONTACT US, THERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES PUBLIC WORKS AND A COUPLE OTHERS BUILDING, ETC. 
          WHERE YOU CAN PUT IN YOUR CONCERN OR WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS AND ASK FOR YOUR CONTACT NUMBER. 
          AND THEN THE STAFF MEMBER GETS AN EMAIL. SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT. SO BUT WE'LL LOOK AT HOW WE CAN ENHANCE THAT THROUGH THE SYSTEM. YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH. PUT IT AT THE TOP INSTEAD OF THE BOTTOM. WELL WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT IT IN OUR NEWSLETTER AND THE MANAGER'S LETTER. YEAH OKAY OKAY. RIGHT. IF YOU WANT TO PUT UP THE OTHER SLIDE THERE, COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO. YES, MA'AM. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. YOU KNOW, WE, AS A COUNCIL, WE PROMISED THE PUBLIC THAT WE WOULD HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. 
          AND THIS PROGRAM IS GOING TO PROVIDE THAT FOR US. AND MIKE, I WANT TO THANK YOU. I KNOW YOU'VE 
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BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD AT IT. I, I KNOW YOU HAVE. AND YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD FOR THIS THING TO BE UP AND RUNNING. SO THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. YOUR STAFF IS DOING GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO MOVING ON. OKAY, BASIC FINANCIAL UPDATE, CURRENT YEAR 2024. IT'S NOT ADVANCING. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE YOU. GO TO NEXT SLIDE HERE OKAY. SO YEAH. 
          SO I, I HAVE THIS SLIDE VERY HIGH LEVEL. AND IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE ON THE SCREEN THERE. 
          BUT YOU DO HAVE A PRINTOUT AND I'LL FLIP ALONG WITH YOU HERE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO BASICALLY BREAK THIS DOWN INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND THE WATER AND SEWER FUND AND THE CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS. AND I'VE TRIED TO ZERO IN ON, I THINK, GIVING YOU THE BEST, MOST RELEVANT INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY, WITHOUT BOGGING YOU DOWN IN EXCESSIVE DETAILS AND A LOT OF GL STUFF THAT YOU PROBABLY DON'T NEED, DON'T WANT TO KNOW, SO OUR, OUR OVERALL GENERAL FUND REVENUE PICTURE, IT'S NOT GREAT, BUT WE'RE HOLDING OUR OWN. THERE ARE SOME HIGH POINTS AND SOME LOW POINTS IN THE, IN THE GENERAL FUND, SOME OF THE THINGS HERE AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS, ON THIS TABLE, THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF REVENUES THAT WE COLLECT IN THE GENERAL FUND, AND THAT EACH OF THOSE GRAPHS WILL SHOW YOU WHAT THE WHAT THE WHAT I'M PROJECTING THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I HAVE STUFF THAT'S ONLY THROUGH MAY AND JUNE. SOME STUFF I'M JUST GETTING NOW IN JUNE. SO I'M HAVING TO PROJECT THROUGH SEPTEMBER TO SEE WHAT THINGS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE, AND THEN OF COURSE, WHAT THE APPROVED BUDGET IS CURRENTLY FOR THOSE AMOUNTS. 
          SO CHARGES FOR SERVICES ARE, GENERALLY THE A LOT OF PLANNING FEES, DEVELOPMENT FEES THAT ARE BEING COLLECTED IN CID WERE SLIGHTLY AHEAD. THEY'RE FINE. AND FORFEITURES, HAVE TO DEAL WITH STUFF IN CODE ENFORCEMENT AND, PENALTIES RELATED TO BUILDING PERMITS. THERE'S NOT BEEN A LOT OF ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA. FRANCHISE FEES ARE FOR FRANCHISE FEES THAT WE COLLECT. 
          AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH GOING TO BE SPOT ON WITH THAT WITH WHAT WE PROJECTED, ONE OF THE LOW POINTS, UNFORTUNATELY, IN THE GENERAL FUND IS THE IS THE GAS TAX REVENUE. SO WE'VE COME DOWN QUITE A BIT FROM JUST TWO YEARS AGO, TWO YEARS AGO, WE WERE COLLECTING ABOUT $360,000 A YEAR. AND THIS YEAR WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO MAYBE GET TO ABOUT $126,000. SO THAT'S A BIG THAT'S A BIG DECLINE. AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH THE CHANGE IN FORMULA THAT WAS, IMPLEMENTED. I BELIEVE, BY THE COUNTY, THEY WENT TO A FIVE YEAR CIP MODEL, FOR EXPENDITURES. YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE IS DOING SOME WORK OUT THERE, BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE FUNDING TO PUT OUR OWN AD VALOREM TAXES INTO THE INTO THE SYSTEM. SO WE DO KIND OF GET DINGED ON THAT A LITTLE BIT IN THE FORMULA. AND THE WAY IT SHAKES OUT, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OUR, OUR ALLOCATION, I BELIEVE WENT FROM I THINK IT WAS 3% TO 1% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT WAS IT'S PRETTY SMALL. SO THAT'S A BIG DROP. IMPACT FEES ARE THE FEES THAT WE ACTUALLY JUST RECENTLY COLLECTED. THOSE ARE OUR MOBILITY FEES. YAY. OUR MOBILITY FEES, ALL THAT HARD WORK THAT THE COUNCIL DID AND MR. VOSS DID. WE COLLECTED $5,900 ON THAT. AND, WE'RE WE'RE ALL THE MORE BETTER FOR IT, RIGHT, BUT THAT'S WHAT THOSE ARE. THOSE ARE THE MOBILITY FEES THAT WE'VE COLLECTED THIS YEAR. INTEREST HAS BEEN A HIGH POINT, WE'VE COLLECTED WE WILL COLLECT ABOUT 446,000 IN INTEREST EARNINGS IN THE GENERAL FUND. I HAD BUDGETED 260. SO WE'RE DOING PRETTY WELL. BUT WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THIS LITTLE LATER. BUT YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, AS THEY SAY, WHAT GOES UP SOMETIMES COMES DOWN. AND WE WILL HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK UNFORTUNATELY, OUR GAS TAX REVENUES ARE GOING TO BE GOING UP ANY TIME SOON. BUT OUR INTEREST EARNINGS MAY AND OR I SHOULD SAY GOING DOWN, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S A THAT'S A POINT TO WATCH. INTER-GOVERNMENTAL IS A LOT OF OUR STATE REVENUE SHARING, SOME OF OUR, SOME OF OUR GRANT REVENUES IN HERE, WE DO ALSO HAVE A LEASE THAT WE HAVE OUT AT BIG MOUND PARK WITH THE I BELIEVE, THE KANE CENTER. 
          THEY'RE PAYING US 1500 A MONTH. THAT LEASE STARTED THIS YEAR. SO, WE'RE COLLECTING THAT AND THEIR LICENSES AND PERMITS, SOME OF THESE ARE AGAIN, ARE WITH COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          THEY'RE THEY MAY DO BETTER THAN WHAT I HAVE PROJECTED HERE, BUT I HAVE THEM SLIGHTLY BELOW BUDGET AT 306,000. MISCELLANEOUS IS JUST THAT. MISCELLANEOUS, OTHER TAXES HAVE TO DEAL WITH, 
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LIKE COMMUNICATION, SERVICE TAX AND SOME OF THE OTHER, PASS THROUGH REVENUES THAT WE COLLECT FROM THE STATE PROPERTY TAX. WE'VE DONE WELL ON THE ASSESSMENT ROLL. WE'VE COLLECTED EVERYTHING THAT WAS BUDGETED. AND THEN A LITTLE BIT SOME WHICH SOMETIMES THERE'S A LAG IN IN PROPERTY TAX WHEN THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND TAX COLLECTOR I SHOULD SAY PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE SETTLES. VALUE ADJUSTMENT BOARD HEARINGS AND THERE'S PAYMENTS ON THAT. SO WE DID WE WILL COLLECT THAT AND THEN TRANSFERS IS THE TRANSFERS COMING IN FROM THE UTILITY FUND. 
          BECAUSE THE UTILITY FUND IS TRYING TO PAY TRYING TO PAY THEIR WAY A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE SUPPORT THAT THEY GET FROM GENERAL GOVERNMENT OKA. ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN GO TO NEXT SLIDE THERE RENEE. ALL RIGHT. WATER AND SEWER REVENUES. YOU WILL SEE HERE, THE WATER. WE'RE KIND OF JUST BREAKING EVEN THERE, AGAIN, THAT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL BASE CHARGES. EVERYTHING IS IN THAT SEWER. WE'RE TRENDING SLIGHTLY ABOVE, BUT NOT BY MUCH, WE HAVE SOME SPLIT REVENUES HERE. WATER AND SEWER THAT ARE LIKE LATE CHARGES AND CERTAIN LATE FEES AND, OTHER, OTHER REVENUES THAT ARE HARD TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE TWO, WE HAVE A LAND LEASE OVER AT THE OVER THE WATER PLANT ON FARM ROAD, FLORIDA. PUBLIC UTILITIES, THE GAS COMPANY HAS A CHAINED IN AREA WHERE THEY HAVE SOME UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY PAY US A LITTLE BIT EACH YEAR. AND INTEREST EARNINGS ALSO HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN UTILITY FUND THAN WHAT I ORIGINALLY BUDGETED. OKAY NOW THE EXPENDITURES. SO THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS HERE. GOING BACK TO GENERAL FUND HERE WITH, I SHOULD SAY, ALL THE FUNDS IN TERMS OF TOTAL EXPENDITURES, GENERAL FUND SPENDING IS, GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT BELOW OR BELOW THAN WHERE WE ESTIMATED ON BUDGET. AND THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH REALLY GRANT MATCHES WHERE WE'RE DELAYED ON SOME OF OUR GRANTS, GETTING STARTED WHEN WE THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO START IT. SO, LIKE LINCOLN STREET IMPROVEMENTS WAS JUST APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN THE LAST, YOU KNOW, COUPLE OF MONTHS. SO I HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN A SINGLE INVOICE YET FOR ANY OF THAT WORK. THAT WAS STUFF THAT WE HAD IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET IN THE AGREEMENT WAS JUST APPROVED. SO WE'RE DELAYED. SO WE HAD SOME GRANT MATCH MONEY THAT, WE ARE THAT WE HAVE THAT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND IT THIS YEAR. PROBABLY. WE'LL ROLL IT INTO THE SUBSEQUENT YEAR, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A, A BENEFIT THERE, WATER AND SEWER. YOU KNOW, SPENDING. THEY'RE, THEY'RE PACING AHEAD OF WHAT THE BUDGET IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ENERGY COSTS ARE UP. CHEMICAL COSTS ARE UP. ALL THE TYPICAL COMMODITY COSTS THAT YOU WOULD THINK ARE HIGHER THAN THIS TIME LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE THAT ARE REALLY STARTING TO EAT AWAY AT THEM OVER THERE, PERSONNEL COSTS EVERYTHING ELSE IS UP OVER THERE. SO THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO COME IN JUST ABOVE BUDGET WITHIN THAT FUND. OKAY. I WOULD ALSO MENTION TO JUST TO SAY, I WILL ALSO SAY THAT IF YOU LOOK A FEW COLUMNS DOWN THE SRF FUND AND THE NEW REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER TREATMENT PLANT FUND, THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE PAYING OUT OF UTILITY REVENUES THAT ARE ACTUALLY CASH RESERVES, THAT ARE NOT IN THE BUDGET. BUT WE HAD TO WE NEEDED THEM. THE MAIN ONES THERE ARE THE BEAVER WORKS TRAILER FOR 600,000. TECHNICALLY NOT IN THE BUDGET. WE HAD THE CASH TO FUND IT, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET. SO THAT TAKES DOWN HIS RESERVES. AND HE'S ALSO CURRENTLY WORKING ON A, A WELL FIELD REHAB THAT THAT CONTRACT CAME BEFORE YOU. I THINK ALSO IN THE LAST MEETING OR A COUPLE MEETINGS FOR $300,000. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, ABOUT 1.1 $1.2 MILLION HERE, $1.1 MILLION OF EXPENDITURES THAT WE HOPE WE CAN GET REIMBURSED FOR, WE DON'T KNOW. WE'RE REALLY JUST NOW FINALIZING SOME OF OUR LOAN APPLICATION GRANT APPLICATION WITH THE STATE REVOLVING FUND. WE, THE VILLAGE MANAGER AND I HAD A MEETING TODAY, AND WE THINK WE FINALLY HAVE A MODEL THAT'S GOING TO WORK THAT THE SRF WILL ACCEPT. AND WE CAN PROCEED WITH THAT AND GET THAT LOAN, ACQUIRED BECAUSE WE NEED IT. THAT WATER SYSTEM OVER THERE DESPERATELY NEEDS THE REHAB WORK AND UPGRADES THAT ARE PLANNED, I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT 10.5 MILLION PLUS IN IMPROVEMENTS AND PROBABLY UP TO 12 MILLION THAT WE NEED TO DO. AND YOU KNOW, THE MILLION HERE, MILLION ONE IS JUST REALLY SCRATCHING THE SURFACE. THERE'S A LOT MORE TO GO. WE NEED THAT MONEY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A HIT TO THEM SHORT TERM. HOPEFULLY WE CAN TURN IT AROUND AND GET THE CASH REFUND. BUT, EXPENDITURES UP THERE ARE IN THE UTILITY FUND IN PARTICULAR ARE HIGH. AND THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, ARPA AND 
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CIP CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR UPTOWN DRAINAGE. THOSE ARE BASICALLY EQUAL MATCHES, FROM EXPENDITURE. YOU KNOW, ARPA WE ALREADY HAVE THE MONEY FOR THAT. SO WE WILL, THAT'S A THAT'S A WASH. AND THE UPTOWN DRAINAGE, THAT'S A 5050 MATCH. BUT THE BUDGET WILL BE ADJUSTED FOR THAT. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, ON THE VERY END IS THE DEP 38 MILLION SEWER GRANT. THAT'S BEEN GREAT, THAT HAS WE'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK WITH THAT. WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW SEWER PLANT WITH THAT, DOING LOTS OF LIFT STATION UPGRADES WITH THAT. THAT FUND IS ALSO JUST PAID FOR OUR, WATER METER CHANGE OUT PROGRAM, SO THAT'S 100% GRANT THERE. AND THE BEST PART OF IT IS THEY FINALLY, THANKS TO MR. VOSS AND HIS TEAM FOR HELPING US PUSH THROUGH, APPARENTLY AN OBSCURE LAW THAT PASSED A YEAR AGO, HB 1209, THAT NOBODY IN DEP KNEW ABOUT. SORRY. HOPEFULLY NOT TO OFFEND ANYONE UP THERE IF THEY'RE LISTENING, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT ALLOWS US TO, ADVANCE FUND PAYMENTS. THAT MEANS WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT THE CASH OUT FIRST TO GET REIMBURSED. THEY SEND US THE MONEY. SO I ACTUALLY JUST COMPLETED THAT FIRST REQUEST. I'M WAITING FOR THE MONEY. BUT I TOLD THEM, HEY, FOLKS, PAY UP, WE NEED THE MONEY, AND WE SHOULD GET THAT IN THE COMING DAYS. BUT THAT'S GOING TO REALLY HELP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF STRETCHED ON CASH. WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE THOSE KIND OF PROCEEDS TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THIS LEVEL OF PROJECT SPEND. SO OKAY. NEXT SLIDE THERE. RENEE IN DEPARTMENT BUDGETS HERE. SO THIS IS KIND OF A BREAKDOWN HERE OF WHERE WE ARE WITH EACH DEPARTMENT IN THE VILLAGE. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE COUNCIL. YOU'RE UNDER BUDGET. GOOD JOB. WOOHOO! SO SPENDING THEIRS DOWN. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHERE I PROJECT YOU'LL BE, GENERAL GOVERNMENT IS REALLY WHAT WE CALL NON-DEPARTMENTAL. THOSE ARE LIKE SHARED COSTS THAT WE HAVE ACROSS THE VILLAGE. YOU KNOW, UTILITY BILLS FOR THIS BUILDING, DIFFERENT COSTS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN, LIKE, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY AND CASUALTY INSURANCE. THERE'S NOT REALLY A DEPARTMENT SPECIFIC. SO WE KIND OF JUST PUT THAT IN GENERAL GOVERNMENT THAT'S A FAIRLY SIZABLE AMOUNT THERE. ADMIN. 
          WE'RE RUNNING A LITTLE DOWN. FINANCE, DOWN QUITE A BIT. BUT, MAINLY BECAUSE I'VE HAD POSITIONS THAT I CAN'T FILL AND I'VE HAD POSITIONS ON THE BOOKS FOR TWO YEARS IN CASES, AND IT'S BEEN QUITE A CHALLENGE TO TRY TO FIND QUALIFIED CANDIDATES TO INTERVIEW. AND, I THINK HONESTLY, THERE ARE SOME DAYS I FEEL LIKE AN HR RECRUITER. I'M CALLING PEOPLE ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND I'M SPEAKING ON THE PHONE AND TALKING TO PEOPLE AT, THE AGENCY TEMP AGENCIES THAT WE WORK WITH, EMPLOYMENT AGENCIES, OTHER RECRUITERS. I'VE SPOKEN TO COLLEAGUES AND OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES, YOU KNOW, ASKING IF THERE'S ANY, YOU KNOW, STAFF THAT THEY LOOKING FOR A GROWTH OPPORTUNITY, WE'RE TRYING EVERY WHICH WAY WE CAN, BUT IT'S A I'M GOING TO BE HONEST, IT'S A REAL PROBLEM. AND IT'S WHERE DO YOU STAND NOW? HOW MANY DO YOU NEED IN YOUR DEPARTMENT? I HAVE THREE FULL TIMERS RIGHT NOW THAT I COULD USE TOMORROW IF, IF, IF THEY WERE. YOU KNOW WHAT I NEED. 
          NO, I DON'T I HAVE A PURCHASING A BUYER THAT, SENIOR BUYER THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FILL FOREVER, I HAD A TEMP AS A BUSINESS ANALYST FOR A BRIEF PERIOD OF TIME, BUT, THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT. SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR. AND THAT'S SOMETHING I NEED TO HELP MANAGE THE BACK END OF THE TYLER TECHNOLOGY SYSTEM. THERE'S A LOT OF ROLE MANAGEMENT AND SECURITY SET UP, AND CERTAIN REPORTS THAT THAT PERSON CAN DO AND BE A LIAISON WITH TYLER TECH. I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANYONE IN THAT ROLE AND THEN AN ACCOUNTING POSITION. I CAN'T FIND ANYONE WHO HAS, REQUISITE ACCOUNTING BACKGROUND EXPERIENCE TO HELP ME BECAUSE IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME TO DO ALL THAT I DO AND BE THE STAFF ACCOUNTANT, TO WHICH I AM SO WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS? YOU THINK IT'S BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF INDIAN TOWN? DO YOU THINK SALARY WE OFFERING ENOUGH MONEY? I WILL TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN TALK TO ANYONE IN ANY BUSINESS ANYWHERE. AND YOU CAN EVEN TALK TO MR. VOSS. I'M SURE HE PROBABLY STRUGGLES GETTING GETTING ATTORNEYS. THIS IS A THIS IS A GLOBAL PROBLEM, I WAS ACTUALLY ON THE PHONE WITH OUR AUDITORS TODAY, AND IT WAS THE SAME, SAME THING. YOU KNOW, THEY ACTUALLY MERGED WITH ANOTHER FIRM TO TRY TO GET BETTER RESOURCES AND HAVE ACCESS TO HAVE MORE STAFF, BECAUSE THEY AND THEY'RE IN FORT LAUDERDALE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT EXACTLY A RURAL AREA. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IT'S A PROBLEM EVERYWHERE. I JUST DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHERE EVERYBODY WENT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. I DON'T KNOW, BUT, I, I DO KNOW JUST IN GENERAL, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT GOINGTHE F PEOPLE GOING IN THE IT FIELD, BUT NOT AS MANY PEOPLE GOING IN THE ACCOUNTING FIELD. AND THEY'VE TOLD ME THE SAME THING 
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AS WELL. MY AUDITORS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT JUST DON'T WANT TO BE ACCOUNTANTS AND CPAS ANYMORE. I'M LIKE, OKAY, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S THE REALITY. NOBODY'S INTERESTED IN IT. SO, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE GETTING KIND OF PICKED OFF BY DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES THAT PAY A LOT MORE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF LUCRATIVE OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE. AND I DEFINITELY THINK, IT WAS HAPPENING BEFORE COVID. BUT I THINK SINCE COVID, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN USED TO THE REMOTE WORK SCHEDULE. AND I UNDERSTAND IT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF FLEX. THEY HAVE OTHER LIVES TOO, BESIDES THEIR WORK, I THINK, YOU KNOW, VILLAGE MANAGER HAS BEEN VERY GRACIOUS WITH ME AND SAID, HEY, LISTEN, IF YOU CAN WORK OUT CERTAIN SCHEDULES WITH PEOPLE, AS LONG AS THEY'RE DOING WORK AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE AND ACCOUNTABLE, BUT WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD ANY TAKERS. WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD ANY, YOU KNOW, OR, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK A LOT OF CLIENTS OR I SHOULD SAY, LIKE CANDIDATES THAT WE FIND, YOU KNOW, THE 2 TO 3% THAT ARE OUT THERE UNEMPLOYED AND IN A NUMBER OF CASES, I THINK THERE'S A REASON WHY THEY'RE UNEMPLOYED. SO WE DO FIND THOSE PEOPLE. UNFORTUNATELY, AFTER AFTER THE INTERVIEW, I FIND OUT WHY. SO WE'LL KEEP LOOKING. I KEEP LOOKING EXACTLY. YEAH OKAY, SO THAT THAT'S A LONG WINDED DISCUSSION ABOUT FINANCE. CID IS, AS FAR AS EXPENDITURES. YES, MA'AM. COUNCILWOMAN, YOU TALKED ABOUT, LIKE, REACHING OUT TO I.R.C. WITH THEIR GRADUATES. I HAVEN'T LATELY, I HAVEN'T LATELY, BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GRADUATE WITH THE COUNTY, AND IT TAKES SOME TIME FOR THEM TO EVEN GET A JOB. I MAY REACH BACK OUT TO THEM AGAIN. I MEAN, I MEAN, HERE'S THE QUANDARY THAT I'M IN. I HAVE A CERTAIN SKILL SET THAT I HAVE FILLED NOW AT THE ACCOUNTING CLERK LEVEL, WHICH IS WORKING OUT PRETTY WELL. I HAVE A COUPLE OF GOOD STAFFERS IN THAT ROLE, MORE A MORE OF LIKE A SENIOR ACCOUNTANT, A MORE TECH, SOMEONE WHO'S A LITTLE MORE TECHNICAL THAT THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHAT I NEED. I'M, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT, I'M HAPPY TO TRAIN AND I AND I'VE DONE THAT, AND I FEEL LIKE I DO A GOOD JOB AT THAT WHEN I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. BUT TECHNICAL, I JUST. I NEED SOME RELIEF MYSELF, YOU KNOW? AND YOU HAVE TO FIND THE RIGHT PERSONALITY. YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY DO. YOU KNOW, I I'VE HAD STAFF WHO WERE VERY INDEPENDENT AND THEY WANT TO LEARN AND THEY KIND OF DIVE IN AND THEY THEY LEAN FORWARD INTO THE SITUATION AND THEN I'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE STAFF MEMBERS WANT YOU TO STAND THERE AND WATCH EVERY CLICK AND EVERY KEYBOARD STROKE THAT THEY DO TO. AND SO LIKE, WELL, YOU'RE NOT THAT'S NOT HELPING ME. THAT'S NOT HELPING ME BECAUSE I'M NOT DOING WHAT I GOT TO DO WHEN I'M SITTING HERE WATCHING YOU MAKE EVERY CLICK AND EVERY KEYBOARD STROKE. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M AT, YOU KNOW, STRUGGLES REAL. YEAH. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO THROW IT OUT THERE PROBABLY. NO, I HEAR YOU. I HEAR YOU, WE'LL KEEP LOOKING, BUT IT'S, IT'S A LOT THAT, YOU KNOW, IS COMING OUR WAY. I MEAN, ACROSS THE WHOLE VILLAGE, IT'S NOT JUST FINANCE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE TYLER TECH STUFF COMING ON, AND I DO I DO WONDER ABOUT THIS. I'M LIKE, LISTEN, I GOT TO. I GOT YOU KNOW, I'M A GREAT JUGGLER, BUT I BETTER I BETTER IMPROVE MY, MY JUGGLING SKILLS HERE BECAUSE THERE'S MORE. WE GOT, WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH HERE AND THERE. NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE, SO AGAIN, BACK TO THE BUDGETS HERE. I THINK, THE STORMWATER BUDGET HERE. WE DO HAVE A STORMWATER BUDGET JUST TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT MONEY IS GOING TO GET SPENT ON A NEW BACKHOE. SO, THAT'S WHERE THAT WENT TO. AND THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN, AS YOU KNOW, A KIND OF A PERSISTENT PROBLEM HERE, NOT HAVING ENOUGH ROLLING STOCK AND EQUIPMENT IN THE VILLAGE, FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES. AND SO THAT MONEY FOR STORMWATER WAS, WAS USED FOR, FOR THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. PARKS IS RIGHT NOW TRENDING A LITTLE BIT BELOW BUDGET, BUT I THINK THEY'RE DOING FINE. AND THAT BIG SPIKE IN ROAD AND STREET REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE GRANT MATCHES THAT WE, HAVEN'T SPENT IN CURRENT YEAR THAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO SPEND BECAUSE OF THE DELAYS AND, AND OTHER PROJECTS. WATER UTILITY, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE TALKING MORE ABOUT THIS AND JUST TO HAVE A NOTE ON YOUR CALENDAR, AUGUST 22ND WILL BE THE, HEARING FOR THE WATER AND SEWER RATE CHANGE THAT'S GOING OUT IN THE NEXT BILLS, THAT SHOULD BE MAILED A LITTLE LATER THIS MONTH, BUT THAT'S THE SCHEDULED DATE, AUGUST 22ND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME BIG INCREASES IN WATER AND SOME, YOU KNOW, LITTLE LESS BIGGER INCREASES IN SEWER, BUT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHY THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING EATEN ALIVE THERE ON THE EXPENSE SIDE WITH THE WATER UTILITY. YOU KNOW, WE JUST YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE COSTS OVER THERE ARE OUTPACING OUR ABILITY TO FUND IT. AND WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT AND SUSTAIN THOSE BUDGETS, AND WATER UTILITY WASTEWATER UTILITY RIGHT NOW IS LOOKING OKAY. BUT, THAT'S UNDER CURRENT FUNDING LEVELS, WHICH WE KNOW IS NOT ENOUGH. RIGHT. AND GENERAL UTILITY OPERATIONS IS, IS, AGAIN WHERE THEY HAVE SHARED COSTS BETTER BETWEEN WATER AND LIKE UTILITY BILLING, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE SLIDES I HAVE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO COVER THESE BULLET POINTS HERE. THIS NEXT SLIDE HERE, RENEE, IF YOU MIND MOVING FORWARD. BUT THESE ARE 
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JUST SOME POINTS AND OBSERVATIONS REGARDING THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET. AND AS WE MOVE INTO THE FISCAL YEAR 25 AND BEYOND. AND, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT GAS TAX. YOU KNOW, GAS TAX IS DOWN 200,000. AND I DON'T SEE US GETTING BACK TO THOSE 2022 LEVELS ANYTIME SOON. AND AGAIN, ROAD AND STREET AND STORMWATER IS A CRITICAL NEED IN THE VILLAGE. AND WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF WAYS TO FUND IT RIGHT NOW, AGAIN INTEREST EARNINGS. WE'RE PROBABLY YOU NEVER KNOW. BUT WE'RE PROBABLY AT THE HIGH WATER MARK FOR THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE LOOKING AT ANY MORE FED INCREASES. MAYBE MY GUESS IS CHANCES ARE NEXT YEAR WE MAY SEE SOME RATE DECREASES, MAYBE A LITTLE. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING BACK TO 0. BUT YOU KNOW, PROBABLY A DECREASE. 
          THAT'S GREAT FOR INDIVIDUALS. IT'S GREAT FOR RESIDENTS, GREAT FOR BUSINESS AND FOR SPURRING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH. NOT GOOD FOR YOUR PORTFOLIO, YOU KNOW. SO I'M SURE WE'LL PROBABLY TRADE THAT OFF. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SEE PEOPLE DOING BETTER, YOU KNOW, KEEPING MORE OF THEIR MONEY, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONTINUING AND EXPANDING. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, AWARE OF THAT. WE HAVE OVER ALMOST 600,000 IN TOTAL INTEREST INCOME IN THIS TOTAL BUDGET BETWEEN GENERAL GOVERNMENT AND WATER UTILITIES. THAT IS GOING TO IS GOING TO SHRINK. AND WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO OFFSET THAT, AGAIN, COST OF SERVICE AND FUTURE SERVICES WILL AND ARE OUTPACING GROWTH IN AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. THAT'S JUST THE REALITY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND DIFFERENT WAYS TO FUND THE WAY THE VILLAGE OPERATES AND TO ADDRESS THESE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONAL AREAS ACROSS THE VILLAGE. I DON'T THINK DON'T BELIEVE, MILLAGE IS THE ANSWER FOR EVERYTHING. WE'LL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT, IN THE SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS AHEAD. STARTING WITH NEXT MEETING. AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO BUDGET WORKSHOPS AGAIN, GRANTS IN MOST CASES DO REQUIRE COST MATCH. ALL RIGHT. AND THE VILLAGE HAS BEEN VERY CHALLENGED AT BEING ABLE TO MEET THOSE COST MATCHES. WE TALKED AT ONE OF OUR RECENT MEETINGS ABOUT A COST MATCH, FOR WATER UTILITIES. THAT WAS A 25% COST MATCH ON A $3 MILLION GRANT. THAT'S A THAT'S A THAT'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE UTILITY, WE ARE ABLE TO USE OTHER GRANTS TO SATISFY THAT MATCH, BUT, WE STILL HAVE TO GET THOSE GRANTS. SO THE POINT IS, YOU KNOW, COST MATCH IS USUALLY COST MATCH AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO. YES, WE WANT TO PURSUE EVERY GRANT OPPORTUNITY THAT'S AVAILABLE AND WE WILL DO THAT. BUT, UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN ANTI WE HAVE TO PUT IN THE POT, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TABLE IN ORDER IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE WITH THOSE GRANTS. OKAY. SO IN OTHER WORDS WE NEED TO KICK START THE PROJECT. YOU CAN CERTAINLY SAY THAT. AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. YEAH. WE HAVE TO HAVE WE HAVE TO HAVE WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PRICE FOR ADMISSION. ABSOLUTELY. 
          WE HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE FOR ADMISSION TO GET IN, TO GET INTO THE SHOW. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH AS FAR AS EXPENDITURES GO, WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ROAD AND STREET, STORMWATER AND FUNDING REPAIRS, AGAIN, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CARRYFORWARD MONEY WE CAN BRING INTO FISCAL YEAR 25 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE CERTAIN GRANTS. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE RIGHT BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED. 
          WHERE'S THE MONEY FOR O&M AND OTHER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO DO? WE DON'T. WE DON'T HAVE IT. SO THAT'S AND THEN PARKS AND RECREATION, YOU'LL SEE WHEN WE GET TO BUDGET WORKSHOP. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DID DO A MASTER PLAN AND THERE'S, I BELIEVE, ALMOST 2.5 MILLION IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE IN THAT MASTER PLAN, THE QUESTION TO THE COUNCIL WILL BE, DO YOU WANT THAT? DO YOU WANT THOSE ITEMS IN THAT CAPITAL PLAN, AND HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PAY FOR IT? IT'S GOT TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE. AND, I DON'T KNOW, TOO MANY GRANTS FOR PARKS, REALLY. MAYBE IN SOME CASES. BUT I HAVE PERSONALLY NOT SEEN SEEN THEM. AND AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT WATER AND SEWER EXPENDITURES AS WELL, THAT IT IS HIGH AND GETTING HIGHER AND THE CONTINUED MONITORING OF OPERATIONS WILL BE NEEDED, TO MAINTAIN, PROBABLY TO HAVE TO ADDRESS FUTURE AND SUBSEQUENT RATE INCREASES IN THE WATER UTILITY. SO WE'RE AGAIN, WE'RE PUTTING BEFORE YOU ON AUGUST 22ND HEARING FOR THE RESOLUTION FOR THAT RATE CHANGE. BUT THAT WILL NOT LIKELY BE THE LAST TIME WE COME BEFORE THE BOARD FOR RATE CHANGES. BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE COST OF THE OPERATION OVER THERE AND THE NEED TO BE ABLE TO CATCH UP AND MAINTAIN CERTAIN NET REVENUES BECAUSE ALL THIS SRF MONEY THAT WE'RE HOPING TO GET UP TO 12 MILLION, THAT'S AGAIN THE BEST DEAL GOING. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TWO THIRDS FORGIVENESS ON IT. BUT ONE THIRD WE GOT TO PAY BACK. THAT'S STILL 
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$4 MILLION. SO THERE'S DEBT THAT'S GOING TO BE PAID ON $4 MILLION THAT WE GOT TO PAY. I MEAN RIGHT NOW OUR TOTAL DEBT IS LIKE 2 MILLION. SO WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, TRIPLE IT ESSENTIALLY ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS FROM NOW. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO HAVE THE CASH TO PAY IT AND CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN YOUR SYSTEM. SO THOSE ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE PUT BEFORE US. AND MY LAST LITTLE BULLET POINT HERE IS, REALLY, I THINK JUST A JUST SO YOU ALL ARE AWARE, FOR ME AND I THINK FOR, FOR THE VILLAGE IN GENERAL, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DO STRUGGLE HERE TO FIND TO FIND STAFF. AND I THINK FROM THE, FROM THE, EVEN THE ENTRY LEVEL POSITIONS. BUT PARTICULARLY UP TO, YOU KNOW, MID-LEVEL AND SKILLED LEVEL POSITIONS, WE ARE REALLY CHALLENGED. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF AGENCIES AND OUTSIDE HELP TRYING TO GET US PEOPLE WE NEED FOR CONSIDERATION. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE ON THE HORIZON TO FILL THESE ROLES. AND AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE ROLES THAT ARE REALLY ESSENTIAL. AND THEY'VE BEEN VACANT FOR TWO YEARS. AND I CAN'T FIND ANYBODY. AND IT'S A BIG DEAL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AND IT'S CERTAINLY IMPORTANT TO THE VILLAGE MANAGER'S IMPORTANT. I THINK EVERYONE IN MANAGEMENT HERE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAPPENS TO US. I MEAN, JUST SHEER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OUT OF WE'RE OUT OF TOWN OR FOR AN EXTENT OR WE HAVE A FAMILY ILLNESS OR AN EXTENDED LEAVE OR SOMETHING. BUSINESS HAS TO GO ON. THAT'S IMPORTANT. I THINK THAT'S AT MY CORE. I KNOW THE VILLAGE MANAGER FEELS THE SAME WAY. WE'RE HERE BECAUSE WE WANT THE VILLAGE TO BE SUSTAINABLE FOR YEARS AND YEARS TO COME. WITHOUT US. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO BE THE ONLY ONE STANDING HERE, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT SOME. I'VE GOT SOME GREAT PEOPLE IN, IN FINANCE AND UTILITY BILLING. 
          I REALLY LOVE THEM ALL. AND THERE'S MANY AROUND THE VILLAGE THAT I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT AS WELL. WE HAVE SOME GREAT PEOPLE HERE, BUT WE NEED A LOT MORE. WE NEED MORE. WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET THEM HERE. AND, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT DIFFERENT MAYBE RECRUITING METHODS, DIFFERENT INCENTIVES, DIFFERENT WAYS TO TRY TO FIND PEOPLE AND PICK OTHER PEOPLE'S BRAINS WHO HAVE HAD BETTER LUCK AND SUCCESS THAN ME, AND BEING ABLE TO GET SOMEONE, AND GET PEOPLE IN HERE TO FILL THESE ROLES BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NEED THEM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN RIGHT NOW, TO, TO MAKE ENDS MEET FROM A STAFFING LEVEL. AND IT'S, I THINK IT'S BEFORE LONG BEFORE THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK YOU SPOKE TO IT, IT'S NOT JUST HERE, IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD BECAUSE I KNOW THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS THE SAME. YEAH, SURE. SAME SAME HEART ISSUES. AND YOU WERE TALKING BUDGET WORKSHOPS, YEAH. DO WE HAVE ANY DATES FOR THOSE? WHEN DO WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE? YOU YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR TENTATIVE MILLAGE, APPROVED AND ADOPTED WITHIN 35 DAYS OF JULY 1ST. SO THAT'S ROUGHLY THE FOURTH OF EIGHT OF AUGUST. NORMALLY LAST YEAR, WHAT WE DID WAS HAD IT PRIOR TO A COUNCIL MEETING, BUT LAST YEAR WE WERE IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SITUATION. WE WERE STILL GETTING OUR ARMS AROUND VILLAGE FINANCES. IF YOU WILL. MR. FLORIO HAS BEEN HERE NOW TWO YEARS. I'VE BEEN HERE YEAR AND A HALF, I GUESS OVER TWO YEARS NOW. MIKE BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE STARTED, WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WE STARTED FROM. I MEAN, WE WE'VE BEEN IT'S BEEN HARD FOR US TO FIND RECORDS FROM PRIOR YEARS SO THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THAT HISTORY. SO NOW THAT WE'RE GETTING SOME HISTORY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, HAVING A WORKSHOP WOULD PROBABLY BE WORTHWHILE JUST BECAUSE, AS MR. FLORIO SAID, EVEN THOUGH YOUR TAX BASE WENT UP, WHICH WAS A SURPRISE, BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR I TOLD YOU TO BE BRACE YOURSELF FOR A 10, ALMOST 10% REDUCTION, FP AND L TO THEIR WONDERFUL CREDIT, CAME THROUGH AND ADDED MORE, INVENTORY TO THEIR SITE. AND THAT BROUGHT US TO THE POSITIVE, ALONG WITH A COUPLE OF OTHER, CHANGES IN OUR PROPERTY VALUES. BUT I THINK A WORKSHOP WOULD BE WOULD BE RECOMMENDED. WHEN I LOOKED, WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT WHEN YOUR TAX BASE WENT DOWN TWO YEARS IN A ROW AND THE ROLLBACK RATE, WOULD HAVE GONE UP TO A HIGHER TAX RATE IF YOU WOULD HAVE DONE THAT AND MAINTAIN THAT, WE'D HAVE ABOUT A HALF $1 MILLION MORE IN YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT TODAY THAN WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, IF YOU WANT TO RECOUP THAT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT MILLAGE RATE LOOKS LIKE. IT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE YOUR MILLAGE. BUT I ALSO THINK WHERE MR, COUNCILMAN DEPAULO WAS GOING AND WHERE MIKE WENT, WE GOT TO LOOK AT OTHER 
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METHODS OF REVENUES. THERE'S THE SKEW IN YOUR TAX BASE, WITH 86% BEING PERSONAL PROPERTY, WHICH IS NOT RESIDENTIAL, AND WITH A $3.8 MILLION TAX REVENUE COMING IN AND ONLY 218,000 OF THAT COMES FROM RESIDENTIAL. SO THERE'S GOT TO THERE ARE BETTER METHODS TO SPREAD THE LOVE AND HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL FOLKS THAT ARE UTILIZING YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE PAY INTO THE BUDGET SO THAT IT'S MORE SPREAD EVENLY, IF YOU WILL, AMONG THAT RESIDENTIAL. BECAUSE MR. ROSE SAID IT EARLIER TODAY. THIS IS A VERY UNUSUAL STRUCTURE OF A TAX BASE FOR A SMALL MUNICIPALITY, AND IT JUST TAKES ONE HICCUP LIKE THEY DECOMMISSION THE SOLAR FIELD. THAT WAS GOING TO BE A 10% HIT ON YOUR BUDGET, OR WE HAVE A HURRICANE COME THROUGH THAT WE HAVE. YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT SO WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR NEW VILLAGE OR HAVE A MILLAGE RATE ADOPTED BY AUGUST THE 5TH. YES, MA'AM. IT'S A IT'S A TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE. YOU CAN ALWAYS LOWER THAT MILLAGE RATE. YOU CAN HAVE MORE BUDGET HEARINGS AFTER YOU SET THAT MILLAGE RATE. SO, FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU WANTED TO SET IT AT IF YOU WANTED TO RECOUP THAT, THOSE FUNDS THAT I WAS TALKING, I FIGURED IT OUT WITH THE MILLAGE RATE WOULD BE IS LIKE 1.85. IF YOU WANTED TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO START THERE, THEN WE CAN HAVE MORE WORKSHOPS, COUNCILMAN DEPAULO IS GOING TO BE GONE. SO THAT CREATES A ALTHOUGH HE CAN ZOOM, HE SAID HE WOULD ZOOM SO WE CAN HAVE MORE MORE WORKSHOPS DURING THE MONTH OF JULY AND JULY IS HALFWAY OVER. I MEAN, I MET AUGUST, I'M SORRY. I GOT I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M IN JULY, THAT WE WOULD HAVE MORE WORKSHOPS LEADING UP TO YOUR PUBLIC HEARING IN SEPTEMBER, BECAUSE THEN AT THAT PUBLIC HEARING IN SEPTEMBER, YOU CAN ALWAYS LOWER THAT MILLAGE RATE. NOW, YOU CANNOT INCREASE IT CANNOT INCREASE IT. SO YOU CAN START OUT HIGH AND THEN COME DOWN. YES. THE ONLY DOWNSIDE TO THAT IS THAT WHEN THE TRIM NOTICES GO OUT THE INITIAL ONES, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT HIGHER RATE. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PROPOSED MILLAGE. YES. SO JUST TO PUT IT IN THE CONTEXT OF HOW YOU'VE DONE IT ALL THESE YEARS, YOU'VE GOT YOUR TWO BUDGET MILLAGE HEARINGS IN SEPTEMBER, YOUR FIRST MEETING. YOUR SECOND MEETING. ALL RIGHT. THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS, IS WHAT'S CALLED IN THE STATUTE, THE PROPOSED MILLAGE. ALL RIGHT. THAT IS AS AS TARYN WAS JUST SAYING, THAT'S JUST YOUR HIGH POINT. THAT'S YOUR STARTING POINT. IT CAN GO DOWN IT EFFECTIVELY CANNOT GO UP FROM THAT. THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT GOES OUT ON THE TRIM NOTICE AND COMING INTO THAT, THAT FIRST MILLAGE AND BUDGET HEARING IN SEPTEMBER, YOU CAN SAY, YEAH, WE ADVERTISED IT AT THIS. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AND EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH DOING THIS OR WHAT HAVE YOU. SO THAT THAT IS A TOOL THAT'S AVAILABLE. IF WE'RE, STILL HAVE SOME TIME WHERE WE, WHERE STAFF NEEDS TO FIGURE OUT PRECISELY WHERE THEY'D RECOMMEND YOU HIT GO WITH SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, ON THE HIGHER END, AND THEN YOU WORK IT DOWN, WORK IT, SHOCK EVERYBODY AND COME IN AT 3.0 AND THEN HAVE EVERYBODY GO CRAZY AND GO, NO, NO, NO, IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE ONE POINT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE IS AN OPPORTUNITY AND I JUST I DIDN'T I DIDN'T HAVE IT, BECAUSE I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE I CAN GET IT. BUT I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO DO LIKE YOU DID WITH YOUR UTILITY RATES. LOOK AT SIMILAR ENTITIES TO THE VILLAGE, POPULATION, BUDGET, ETC. AND WHERE THAT MILLAGE, WHATEVER MILLAGE YOU LAND ON, PUTS YOU IN. BECAUSE I'VE HAD PEOPLE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO, OTHER FINANCE PEOPLE SAY, WHAT'S YOUR MILLAGE? AND I SAY IT AND THEY SAY, OH MY GOSH, THAT'S REALLY LOW. I MEAN, YOU PROBABLY YOU HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE. AND THE ISSUE YOU WILL FIND AROUND THE STATE IS YOU WILL FIND RADICALLY DIFFERENT MILLAGE LEVELS BASED ON THE TAX BASE STRUCTURE. RIGHT, YOU ALL ARE VERY WELL FAMILIAR WITH HOW UNIQUE OUR TAX BASE STRUCTURE IS HERE. AND SO YOU CAN END UP WITH A LOW MILLAGE THAT OTHERWISE YIELDS A LOT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WHERE IT'D BE TOTALLY NORMAL TO HIT A BUDGET LIKE THIS AT 7 OR 8. WOW. OKAY BUT THAT THAT ENDS UP BEING A MUCH MORE DISTRIBUTED TAX BASE THAN YOU KNOW, 80, 90 SOME ODD PERCENT ON ONE TAX PAYER. YEAH. 
          AND WE CAN FIGURE THOSE, THOSE OUT TO, TO DEMONSTRATE THAT TO YOU. BUT YOU KNOW AND RECOGNIZING TOO ANY MILLAGE INCREASE PRIMARILY IS GOING TO IMPACT THOSE PERSONAL PROPERTY PARCELS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S 500 OF THEM OUT OF THE ALMOST WHAT, 90 I DON'T KNOW, I HAD THAT 
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NUMBER SOMEWHERE. TWO 2853 PARCELS, 530 OF THEM ARE YOUR TPP. OH WOW. 9964 RESIDENTIAL. 
          BUT THEY PAY 86. THOSE 530 PAY 86% OF YOUR TAXES. AND THAT'S ONE THING I THINK WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF. YES. OKAY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN ON FAMILIES WHERE IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN. YES. AND I THINK WE NEED TO ADOPT. ANOTHER VEHICLE WHICH WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, THE ASSESSMENT ASSESSMENT, A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT. AND IT NEEDS TO BE ATTACHED TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO IN OUR NEW BUDGET, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MONEY IN THERE FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. CORRECT. YOU KNOW, BUDGET, WE WILL THE, THE DEGREE TO WHICH IT'S FUNDED IS TO BE DETERMINED, OF COURSE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENTS IN THEIR GRANT MATCHES. YES OKAY. WELL, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT KICK STARTING IT AND USING SOME MONEY FROM THAT. 
          THE FUND BALANCE. YES, YES. SO ALTHOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT MONEY SPENT ON ONE TIME PURCHASES RATHER THAN ON RECURRING EXPENSES, RIGHT. YEAH SO YEAH. SO I THINK THAT THAT, THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT I MEAN, WE NEED TO BE WHERE WE NEED TO BE WITH OUR MILLAGE RATE. WE NEED TO INCREASE IT TO WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE IS AT. WE ALL NEED TO BE THE HIGHEST. WE DON'T NEED TO BE THE LOWEST. WE NEED TO BE RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH. I DON'T THINK SO. WE CAN USE THAT OTHER VEHICLE BECAUSE, I MEAN, LET'S FACE IT, I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS OF INDIAN TOWN AND YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSES THAT ARE HOMESTEADED, IT'S ONLY LIKE, WHAT, 22? IT WAS CLOSER TO 30. 
          YEAH 30. YEAH. I'M STILL WORKING. SO. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMES IN INDIAN TOWN ARE INVESTMENTS FOR SOMEBODY OTHER THAN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING THERE. SO SOMEBODY'S MAKING MONEY. AND THEN YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, A HOUSE THAT'S DESIGNED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, FOUR PEOPLE IN IT AND THEY GOT SEVEN CARS IN THEIR PARKING ALL OVER THE PLACE, ON THE SIDEWALKS, ON THE GRASS. YEAH SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL THE STUFF I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW. SO WE NEED TO MAINTAIN AND WE NEED THE MONEY TO MAINTAIN AND WE NEED I MEAN, WE LOST THAT GAS TAX BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PUT ANY MONEY INTO OUR ROADS. CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY SO WE NEED TO PUT MONEY INTO OUR ROADS. SO WE CAN GET THAT GAS TAX MONEY BACK SO WE CAN GET A MATCHING FUND. BECAUSE I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT WE'RE LOSING WE'RE LOSING MONEY BY NOT SPENDING MONEY. THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO. YEAH RIGHT. YEAH. SO I THINK I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO LOOK AT OTHER METHODS OF, OF INCOME. AND AS FOR THE WATER PLANT, THEY, THEY NEED TO EVENTUALLY STAND ON THEIR OWN. 
          WE CAN'T TAKE GENERAL MONEY FROM GENERAL FUNDS AND PUT IT IN THE WATER PLANT. THEY NEED TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES. SO AND EVENTUALLY THE SAME THING WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, BUILDING DEPARTMENTS GOT TO BE ITS OWN, ITS OWN ENTITY GOT TO MAKE ITS OWN MONEY AND PAY ITS OWN BILLS AND PAY US RENT. BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, BUT, I THINK I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT EVERY, EVERY AVENUE THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE. AND IT'S GOING TO BE HARD. IT'S GOING TO BE HARD. IT'S GOING TO BE HARD CHOICE TO MAKE. BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT. IF, I MEAN, LISTEN, WE'RE RUNNING THE GOVERNMENT, WE'RE BUILDING INDIAN TOWN, AND IT'S GOT TO BE DONE. RIGHT, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE MONEY TO DO IT AND IT'S GOT TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE. SO YEAH, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S FALLING ON, IT'S, IT'S FALLING HEAVILY ON LIKE YOU SAY, OUR LARGEST PORTION, BUT IT'S ALSO FALLING ON THE RESIDENTS. AND I ARE ONE, I PAY TAXES. MY, MY GAS HAS GONE UP. UTILITIES HAVE GONE UP. 
          INSURANCE HAS GONE UP. EVERYTHING FOOD HAS GONE UP. EVERYTHING HAS GONE UP EXCEPT MY PAYCHECK. SO AT WHAT POINT AT WHAT POINT? BECAUSE OKAY, NOW. AND I GET IT. WHERE IS IT GOING TO COME FROM? BUT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T GET BLOOD FROM A STONE. THERE'S JUST SO MUCH THAT, THAT THAT THE TAXPAYER. SO YEAH, WE NEED TO NEED TO THINK OUT OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. AND SO WE 
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WENT FROM 3% TO 1% ON THE GAS TAX. YES, MA'AM. AND IT WAS DUE TO HOW IT IS FIGURED THE FORMULA IS BASED ON IF YOU'RE RECEIVING GAS TAX. IT WAS THROUGH AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY. SO THE COUNTY HAD AGREED THAT CERTAIN PORTION OF THAT GAS TAX WOULD COME TO THE MUNICIPALITY. 
          AND THEN THEY LOOK AT HOW MUCH WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THOSE FUNDS THAT YOU'RE RECEIVING AS FAR AS REINVESTING IN YOUR CAPITAL PROGRAM. WE HADN'T BEEN DOING ANY OF THAT VERY LITTLE. 
          IT WAS MORE BEING GOBBLED UP BY YOUR MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY THE FORMULA WAS REDUCED BECAUSE WE HADN'T BEEN MAKING THOSE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES. IN MY WORKING WITH THE COUNTY, WE WERE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A METHODOLOGY OR SOMETHING THAT COULD ALLEVIATE THAT, BUT WE REALLY WEREN'T ABLE TO COME UP BECAUSE, AGAIN, THEIR ARGUMENT IS YOU SHOULD BE AT WHAT POINT ARE YOU GOING TO START MAKING THAT INVESTMENT IN YOUR ROADS? YOU KNOW, I HEAR WHAT ABOUT POTHOLES? WHAT ABOUT SIDEWALKS? WHAT ABOUT RESURFACING? WHAT ABOUT STRIPIN? WHAT ABOUT THAT ALL TAKES MONEY, MR. NOLAN ONLY HAD. AND THIS IS A BIG NUMBER. SO I SAY ONLY CAREFULLY. 350,000 SET ASIDE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS. IMPROVEMENTS IN THE PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET. BUT HE NEEDED THAT FOR EQUIPMENT SO THAT HE COULD DO THE POTHOLES. AND HE'S GOING TO THE LOCAL LUMBER AND GETTING THE ASPHALT THAT HE NEEDS. AND THEY'RE OUT THERE NOW ABLE TO PATCH THOSE, THOSE HOLES. BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST A LEVEL OF FUNDING THAT YOU KNOW, WASTEWATER AND WATER PLANTS HAVE REPLACEMENT AND REPAIR FUNDS THAT ARE USUALLY EITHER PERCENTAGE OF THEIR BUDGET OR SOMETHING. SO THAT WHEN YOU HAVE HYDRANTS THAT NEED TO BE, RE REFURBISHED OR REDONE, THEY'RE ON A SCHEDULE, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR YOU'RE DOING SO MANY HYDRANTS AND THAT WE DON'T WE JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN OURSELVES SET UP THAT WAY. WE WE, WE WHEN WE BOUGHT THE WATER PLANT, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE CONVERSATION RIGHT THEN. OKAY. WE GOT TO START THOSE RATES. WE GOT TO START LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE VIABLE AND SUSTAINABLE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START LOOKING AT OUR REVENUE STREAM AND WHERE WE ARE. SO I KNOW AT THIS POINT, NOT KNOWING WHAT WE DID NOT KNOW, WE'RE PLAYING CATCH UP AND WE'RE BEING REACTIVE RATHER THAN BEING PROACTIVE. YES, MA'AM. AND WE ARE TRYING TO GET IN THAT POSITION OF BEING PROACTIVE, BUT IT'S, IT'S HURT. IT'S GOING TO HURT. IT'S HURTFUL. YEAH. IT IS. 
          IT REALLY IT IS BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S REALITY. I MEAN, I KNOW ALL THE COSTS ARE GOING UP, BUT THE SAME COSTS ARE GOING UP FOR THE RESIDENTS, ARE GOING UP FOR VILLAGE OPERATIONS. GAS IS MORE WE GOT YOU GOT YOUR EMPLOYEES ON THE STREET WITH GAS. THE MATERIALS ARE GOING UP. MORE, SUPPLIES ARE GOING UP MORE UNIFORMS, EVERYTHING. INSURANCE FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, GOES UP. 
          PROPERTY AND HEALTH INSURANCE. SO IT'S JUST KEEPING UP WITH. AND YOU KNOW, MR. FLORIO TRIES TO DO AS MUCH AS HE CAN WITH WHAT HE'S GOT. BUT YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHERE THE VILLAGE WANTS TO SEE US. YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR. DEFINITELY. WE DEFINITELY NEED A BUDGET WORKSHOP. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SET IT HIGH AND THEN DO BUDGET WORKSHOPS IN ORDER TO SEE IF WE NEED TO KEEP IT THERE OR BE ABLE TO BRING IT DOWN A LITTLE. WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES THE COUNCIL WANT TO DO THIS EVENING? BECAUSE LOOKING FORWARD, WE COULD SET IT AT THE NEXT MEETING BEFORE THAT AUGUST FIFTH. YES. HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A FULL COUNCIL SEATED AT THAT TIME. WELL I'LL, I'LL BE HERE VIA ZOOM IN TWO WEEKS. YEAH IT TOLD ME I'D BE AT A HOSPITAL IN THREE DAYS. SO I'LL MAKE IT IF I HAVE TO DO IT FROM MY, ICU. I'LL DO IT FROM ICU. WHAT CAN I TELL YOU? HIS HEART WILL BE FINE BY THEN. SO HE CAN HAVE ANY CONVERSATION. YEAH OKAY. SO DO WE WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING TO SET THAT? AND THEN WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH, WORKSHOPS. YEAH. AND WHAT I WILL DO FOR THE NEXT MEETING TOO IS GIVE YOU OTHER OPTIONS. I MEAN, NOT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO WAY UP HERE, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ANOTHER 350 TO YOUR BUDGET, WHAT THAT NUMBER WOULD LOOK LIKE, ETC, SO THAT YOU HAVE OPTIONS. OKAY. SO WE'LL HAVE THAT. YEAH. OKAY OKAY. SO WE'LL HAVE THAT AT 
          [02:10:05]
OUR ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT AND BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND THEN WORK BUDGET WORKSHOPS IN AUGUST. OKAY. SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN. DOES THAT SOUND GOOD TO EVERYBODY. YEP I DON'T SEE ANYBODY SAYING OTHERWISE. OKAY SO DO WE HAVE THERE'S NO FIRST READING OR 
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SECOND READING. ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS I HAVE SOME I HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEM. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. OKAY OKAY. WELL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING FORWARD AND LOOKING FORWARD, NOT LOOKING BACK. WE KNOW WHAT THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST WERE. AND YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE, WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SO LET'S FORGET ABOUT THE PAST AND LOOK LET'S LOOK FORWARD, THE VILLAGE IS JUST GOING TO GROW. IT'S GOING TO GROW. AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED SPACE. NOW, I HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT I THINK THAT THE VILLAGE COUNCIL, THE VILLAGE, SHOULD LOOK AT. AND LET'S GO TO BOOKER PARK FIRST AND LET'S LOOK AT THE BALL FIELD. I GOTTA CUT OUT OF IT UP THERE. AND WE GOT THE FIRE STATION VILLAGE PROPERTY, AND THEN WE GOT THE SCHOOL BOARD PROPERTY, WHICH I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR VILLAGE MANAGER, AND SHE'S LOOKING INTO, TRYING TO ACQUIRE THAT FROM, FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD. AND THERE'S THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE BACK THERE. THAT WAS THE OLD THOMPSON'S APARTMENTS IN GREEN BACK THERE THAT, SHE'S ALSO TRYING TO ACQUIRE FROM THE CRA. WE OWN THE LOT NEXT TO THE FIRE STATION, AND THERE'S A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO THE FRONT THAT IS ON THE EAST AND THE WEST SIDE OF, FARMS ROAD AT 169TH, 168TH, THAT ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY ON THE LEFT RIGHT THERE IS ROOSEVELT JONES. PART OF IT IS UP FOR SALE, RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A SIGN THERE, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT THAT WHOLE CORNER AND ALSO THE OTHER CORNER, AND THAT WOULD ALLOW US IN THE FUTURE TO TAKE THAT ROAD AND PUT IT IN BEHIND THE FIRE STATION, DELETE THE ORIGINAL ROAD THAT'S THERE NOW, AND JUST HAVE ONE BIG PARK WHERE WE CAN HAVE OFFICIAL SIZE FOOTBALL FIELD AND A BASEBALL FIELD, AND WE CAN MOVE THE BASKETBALL COURTS AND HAVE SOME PICKLEBALL OUT THERE AND, AND OTHER THINGS DOWN IN THE FUTURE. I MEAN, WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT NOW IS LOOKING AT IT TO ACQUIRE THAT PROPERTY. 
          AND WE'RE BACK TO MONEY. BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU JUST GOT TO DO THINGS THAT YOU GOT TO DO, AND YOU CAN'T BE AFRAID OF THE DEBT IF IT'S GOING TO COST US A LITTLE BIT, IT'S GOING TO COST US A LITTLE BIT. AND IF WE CAN GET THE PROPERTY FOR THE RIGHT PRICE, THEN THEN I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH IT, IF SOMEBODY BUYS THAT, WE'RE GOING TO BE LANDLOCKED. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING. SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE OF INDIAN TOWN. NOT FOR NOW, BUT FOR TEN OR 15 OR 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, ALSO, THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT, THERE'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM POST PAR, A LITTLE JUST ABOUT AN ACRE, AND THAT'S FOR SALE. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT LOCATION FOR A REC CENTER. WE DON'T HAVE ANY LAND TO DO THAT, TO BUILD ANYTHING, TO PROVIDE ANYTHING FOR THE COMMUNITY. I MEAN, WHAT WE HAVE IS WHAT WE HAVE. THAT'S IT. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S A GREAT LOCATION RIGHT THERE TO DO A REC CENTER, MAYBE AN INDOOR BASKETBALL COURT OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN A FUNCTION HALL. BUT, IF WE DON'T START THINKING ABOUT THESE THINGS AND INVESTING IN OUR VILLAGE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A DAY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE SAYING SOMEBODY'S GOING TO BE SITTING HERE SAYING, WHY DIDN'T THEY DO THAT TEN YEARS AGO? JUST LIKE WE'RE SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW SAYING, WHY DIDN'T WE DO THAT FIVE YEARS AGO OR SIX YEARS AGO? THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF FIRSTS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE AND WE'RE GETTING THEM DONE. AND I THINK THAT THAT WE WOULD BE DOING THE VILLAGE A GREAT SERVICE BY LOOKING AT THESE PROPERTIES, TALKING ABOUT IT. 
          [02:15:06]
AND, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE FUTURE OF THIS VILLAGE, BECAUSE ONCE PEOPLE COME HERE AND THEY START BUYING PROPERTY AND THEY START BUILDING, THERE'S GOING TO BE NO PLACE LEFT FOR US TO DO ANYTHING WHERE THAT THAT'S A GREAT SPOT, RIGHT THERE WHERE IT'S ACROSS FROM THE PARK. 
          THAT'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM VILLAGE HALL. IT'S JUST LIKE I'VE BEEN HARPING ON, ON WADE TO GET. I'M GOING TO SAY IT TO GET OMAR TO ABANDON HIS PROJECT BACK HERE AND FOR THE VILLAGE TO BUY THAT PROPERTY THAT OMAR WANTS TO BUILD HIS HOUSING PROJECT ON, THAT WOULD THIS WOULD BE A GREAT BLOCK FOR THE VILLAGE TO OWN FOR THE FUTURE OF THE VILLAGE. SO 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WHEN THEY NEED TO ADD, YOU KNOW, 20 OR 30,000FT■S OF OFFICE SPACE, IT'S THE PROPERTY IS THERE. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO LOOKING FOR SOMETHING ELSE. IT'S RIGHT THERE. SO I THINK THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT. I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD BE PART OF OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS. AND HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE GOING TO AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO START DOING SOME OF THIS STUFF? BECAUSE IF WE DON'T FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, IT'S GOING TO BE TOO LATE. SO I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO THINK ABOUT THAT. THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP AND ON A DIFFERENT NOTE, SINCE I AM GOING TO BE OUT. I WAS TOLD THAT THAT WAS IN AUGUST WHEN THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SWORN IN, IS WHEN WE REORGANIZED THE COUNCIL, AND THE MAYOR IS GOING TO BE HERE TILL OCTOBER 31ST, 31ST. I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT TILL THE TILL TILL THE MAYOR EXITS TO REORGANIZE THE COUNCIL. IF THAT CAN BE DONE, THAT WAY. THAT'S A CHARTER ISSU. 
          YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY, THE CHARTER IS REALLY CLEAR WHEN IT'S GOT TO BE. LOCKS IT IN. NOMINATE HER AS MAYOR UNTIL HE TURNS OUT COULD DO THAT. YEAH, YEAH. AND THEN FILL THE VACANCY. BUT AND THEN ONCE SHE'S LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT PROCEDURALLY WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, WE CAN CHAT ABOUT IT. 
          I KNOW YOU'LL BE ON BY ZOOM, BUT I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT, AT PROCEDURALLY HOW THAT WOULD WORK. AND, AND DISCUSS IT. WELL, TALKING ABOUT, COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO BEING OUT, I THINK IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE THAT WE RIGHT NOW, WHETHER HE USES THEM OR NO, EXCUSE HIM FROM, SAY, THE NEXT FOUR COUNCIL MEETINGS. YEAH I MEAN, THAT'S WAY OUT THERE IF YOU IF YOU'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, ATTEND FINE AND GREAT. IF NOT, WE HAVE ALREADY TAKEN THAT THAT ACTION AND EXCUSING THAT YOU GOT A GOOD EXCUSE TO BE GONE. I WON'T BE HERE IS IF I'M DEAD. WELL WELL, THERE MAY BE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES. YOU MAY HAVE A BAD WI-FI CONNECTION, AND IT JUST DOESN'T GET OUT THE HOSPITAL. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION EXCUSING COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO FROM THE NEXT FOUR COUNCIL MEETINGS? I BERNSTEIN, PALMER. SO MOVE THAT WE EXCUSE COUNCILMAN DEPAULO FROM THE NEXT FOUR MEETINGS, AND I'LL SECOND. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. HOPEFULLY YOU WON'T HAVE TO USE THEM, COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT, BEING SAID, YOU WILL BE IN OUR THOUGHTS AND OUR PRAYERS IN THE COMING DAYS. SO HEAL QUICKLY. 
          AND IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, WE STAND ADJOURNED. THANK YOU
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