MAKES SENSE. IT'S CRAZY HOW THAT WORKS. SO GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. WELCOME TO THIS
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VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN. REGULAR VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING ON THURSDAY, MAY THE 23RD, 2024, MADAM CLERK, CAN WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MAYOR GIBBS? THOMAS HERE, VICE MAYOR PEREZ HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ HERE, FEW QUICK HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS. THE EXIT YOU WILL FIND TO YOUR LEFT AND YOUR RIGHT. YOU ALSO WILL FIND BATHROOMS TO YOUR LEFT. RIGHT BEHIND THAT DOOR. ALSO, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK THIS EVENING, MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET A, SPEAKING CARD. FILL IT OUT AND GET IT TO OUR CLERK THAT IS ON YOUR LEFT. YOU'LL HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES AT THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION PORTION AND ALSO ON THE AIR, AN ITEM ITSELF. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES WHEN YOU STEP TO THE MIC, PLEASE, MAKE SURE THAT YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD. OKAY. AND THIS EVENING OUR INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY RALPH LAMB, PASTOR OF THE FAMILY WORSHIP CENTER. IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS EVENING. THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME TO GATHER, LORD.AND AS YOUR WORD SAYS, THE GOVERNMENTS OF THE WORLD REST ON YOUR SHOULDERS, LORD. AND WE JUST TRUST ALL OF OUR GOVERNMENT IN YOUR HANDS, LORD GOD, BECAUSE YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT, YOU ARE AHEAD OF TIME. LORD, IN THE MIDST OF TIME. LORD AND EVEN IN THE PAST OF TIME LORD. AND THERE IS NO ONE THAT KNOWS MORE THAN YOU. AND I THANK YOU FOR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS OFFICE. LORD GOD, I THANK YOU FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND ALL THAT IS DONE FOR IT. LORD GOD, AND I ASK FOR THE FUTURE AND THE PRESENT OF THIS COMMUNITY, GOD, THAT IT CONTINUES TO GROW. LORD GOD, MORE AND MORE, IN UNITY. LORD GOD AND NOT DIVIDED LORD AS WELL AS THIS NATION. LORD BLESS IT, JESUS, AS YOU HAVE FOR SO MANY YEARS. GOD CONTINUED TO DO THAT. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. BLESS THIS MEETING. LET IT BE BENEFICIAL, LORD, IN EVERY WAY. AND JESUS'S NAME, AMEN, AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, PULLED ITEMS, OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS? NO, MADAM
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Proclamation for Memorial Day
]MAYOR, WE'RE MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT SESSION. SECTION PROCLAMATION AWARDS AND SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE TWO THIS EVENING. OUR FIRST ONE IS FOR MEMORIAL DAY, MAY THE 27TH, 2024. WHEREAS MEMORIAL DAY IS A SOLEMN OCCASION TO HONOR AND REMEMBER THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES WHO MADE THE ULTIMATE, ULTIMATE SACRIFICE IN DEFENSE OF OUR NATION, OUR FREEDOMS, AND OUR WAY OF LIFE. THROUGHOUT OUR HISTORY, GENERATIONS OF AMERICAN SERVICE MEMBERS HAVE ANSWERED THE CALL OF DUTY COURAGEOUSLY DEFENDED LIBERTY AND DEMOCRACY AT HOME AND ABROAD, PLACING THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY TO PROTECT THE IDEALS AND VALUES WE HOLD DEAR. AND WHEREAS ON MEMORIAL DAY, WE PAY TRIBUTE TO THE SELFLESSNESS, VALOR, AND HEROISM OF THOSE WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES IN SERVICE OF OUR COUNTRY AND WE EXPRESS PROFOUND GRATITUDE TO THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES FOR THEIR SACRIFICES AND ENDURING STRENGTH. AND WHEREAS MEMORIAL DAY ALSO SERVES AS A REMINDER OF THE ONGOING COMMITMENT AND DUTY WE OWE TO OUR VETERANS, SERVICE MEMBERS AND THEIR FAMILIES, AND AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RENEW OUR SOLEMN PLEDGE TO HONOR THEIR LEGACY BY UPHOLDING THE PRINCIPLES OF FREEDOM, JUSTICE AND EQUALITY FOR THOSE THEY FOUGHT AND DIED. AND WHEREAS IT IS FITTING AND PROPER FOR ALL AMERICANS TO OBSERVE MEMORIAL DAY WITH REVERENCE, SOLEMNITY, SOLEMNESS, AND GRATITUDE, AND TO PARTICIPATE IN CEREMONIES, TRIBUTES AND ACTS OF REMEMBRANCE TO HONOR THE MEMORY AND LEGACY OF OUR FALLEN HEROES. NOW, THEREFORE, I, SUSAN GIBBS THOMAS, MAYOR OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 27TH, 2024 AS MEMORIAL DAY. I CALL UPON ALL INDIAN TOWN RESIDENTS TO PAUSE AND REFLECT ON THE SACRIFICES OF OUR FALLEN SERVICE MEMBERS TO HONOR THEIR MEMORY AND DIGNITY AND RESPECT, AND TO RECOMMIT OURSELVES TO THE ENDURING VALUES AND PRINCIPLES FOR WHICH THEY GAVE THEIR LIVES. AND THIS EVENING WE HAVE THE INDIAN TOWN[00:05:05]
VETERANS ASSOCIATION COMMANDER, ERIC MILLER, TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION. SIR, IF YOU HAVE A FEW WORDS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HEY, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. EVERYBODY THERE YOU GO. HOW'S THAT? THEY ONLY HAVE TO SHOW ME ONCE. AIM AND SHOOT, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR TAKING THE TIME TO, PUT THIS PROCLAMATION FORWARD AND TO SHOW YOUR OBSERVANCE OF MEMORIAL DAY, IT IS A VERY SOLEMN DAY, I AM A VETERAN, AND THANKFULLY, I WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT BACK TO BE ABLE TO STAND HERE AND TALK TO YOU IN THIS ROOM WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE TODAY WHO ARE HERE, BECAUSE MEN AND WOMEN ACROSS FACELESS PLACES ON THIS PLANET HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIFE, SO THAT WE CAN HONOR OUR RIGHTS AS HUMANS TO HAVE A FIRST AMENDMENT, A SECOND AMENDMENT, A FOURTH AMENDMENT, ON AND ON AND ON. A CONSTITUTION, OCEAN AND MEMORIAL DAY IS MEANT TO BE A SOLEMN DAY. THE IVA WILL BE, HOSTING A REMEMBRANCE CEREMONY, WE START GATHERING AT 8 A.M, AT THE INDIAN TOWN VETERANS POST, WHICH IS AT ONE SIX, 701 SOUTHWEST MORGAN. WE'RE BACK IN LITTLE RANCH. FOR THOSE THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH INDIAN TOWN, WE DO THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE CITY OF STUART, WHO HAS A BIG, JOYOUS PARADE AND PEOPLE CAMPAIGNING IN IT AND HAVING A WONDERFUL TIME. OUR REMEMBRANCE CEREMONY IS VERY SOLEMN. WE DO HAVE SOME REFRESHMENTS, WE DO HAVE SPEAKERS. WE LAY A WREATH AT THE MEMORIAL OF VETERANS THAT HAVE PASSED HERE IN INDIAN TOWN, REMEMBERING THEM AS WELL. AND WE LOWER THE FLAG TO HALF STAFF. AND THEN AT NOON WE RAISED THE FLAG BACK TO FULL STAFF AND WE THROW THE, THE BURGERS AND DOGS ON THE GRILL, AND WE CELEBRATE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT OUR COMRADES WOULD WANT US TO DO, IS TO CELEBRATE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT, BUT WE TAKE THE MORNING TO PAUSE AND REFLECT AND THINK ABOUT WHAT REALLY GOT US HERE AND WHAT'S KEEPING US HERE. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR TAKING THE TIME. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU. AND THAT STARTS AT 8 A.M, STARTS AT 8 A.M, CEREMONIAL START AT 830. WE WELCOME THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY TO COME AND JOIN US, BOTH IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOON AS WE RAISE THE FLAG BACK TO FULL STAFF. WE HAVE A CEREMONY FOR THAT AS WELL. SO LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COULD WE CAN WE GET A PICTURE OVER HERE ON THE SIDE? SURE, SURE. I DID. I DIDN'T.[2.
Proclamation for Small Citites Month
]OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION IS PROCLAMATION FOR SMALL CITIES MONTH, WHICH IS JUNE OF 2024.WHEREAS SMALL CITIES ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR NATION, EMBODYING THE SPIRIT OF COMMUNITY, RESILIENCE AND INNOVATION AND SERVING AS ENGINES OF ECONOMIC GROWTH, CULTURAL ENRICHMENT AND SOCIAL VITALITY AND WHEREAS, SMALL CITY MONTH PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THE UNIQUE CONTRIBUTIONS AND ACHIEVEMENTS OF SMALL CITIES, TOWNS AND MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS OUR COUNTRY, AND TO HONOR THE DEDICATED LEADERS, RESIDENTS AND EMPLOYEES WHO WORK TIRELESSLY TO MAKE THESE COMMUNITIES THRIVE. AND WHEREAS SMALL CITIES ARE HOME TO DIVERSE POPULATION, VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOODS AND RICH CULTURAL HERITAGE, OFFERING RESIDENTS A HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE, HOUSING ACCESSIBLE AMENITIES AND CLOSE KNIT SOCIAL NETWORKS THAT FOSTER A SENSE OF BELONGING AND CONNECTION. SMALL CITIES PLAY A CRUCIAL ROLE IN DRIVING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ENTREPRENEURSHIP, JOB CREATION, PROVIDING FERTILE GROUND FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, STARTUPS AND LOCAL ENTERPRISES TO FLOURISH AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROSPERITY OF OUR NATION. AND WHEREAS, SMALL CITIES MONTH SERVES AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THE CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES FACING SMALL CITIES AND TO PROMOTE POLICIES, PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES THAT SUPPORT THEIR GROWTH, SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE IN
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THE FACE OF EVOLVING SOCIAL, ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL PRESSURES. NOW, THEREFORE, I, SUSAN GIBBS THOMAS, MAYOR OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JUNE AS SMALL CITIES MONTH. I CALL UPON ALL RESIDENTS BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TO JOIN AND CELEBRATING THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF SMALL CITIES TO OUR NATION AND TO WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE THEIR CONTINUED SUCCESS AND PROSPERITY FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. AND THIS EVENING WE HAVE KIM PRESCOTT FROM THE INDIAN TOWN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HERE TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND IN ACCEPTANCE OF THIS PROCLAMATION FOR SMALL CITIES MONTH. GOOD EVENING.THANK YOU. HELLO, HELLO. I ALSO JUST WANT TO MENTION WE ALSO HAVE RALPH LAMB. HE'S ALSO ON OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS WITH US AS WELL. THIS EVENING, AS A SMALL CITIES, WE KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT. INDIAN TOWN IS VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART AND IT'S A VERY WONDERFUL SMALL CITY. THE INDIAN TOWN CHAMBER, AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE VERY INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE THE 4TH OF JULY EVENT THAT'S COMING UP. THANKS TO EVERYONE HERE AND EVERYONE FOR THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN FOR THE FIREWORKS. IT'S GOING TO BE ON JUNE 29TH FROM 5 TO 10. IT'S GOING TO BE AT TIMER POWERS PARK, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE VENDORS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOOD TRUCKS. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE, SOME CAR SHOWS. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NICE EVENT. IT'S GOING TO BE FREE FOR EVERYONE TO COME. I REALLY THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT TURNOUT. ABOUT LAST YEAR, WE HAD ABOUT 2500. WE WERE ABLE TO BRING IN THE FIREWORKS AGAIN THIS YEAR. THANKS SO MUCH TO THE VILLAGE, AS WELL AS WE KNOW, WE HAVE OUR RODEO THAT'S COMING UP IN OCTOBER. I THINK WITH A SMALL CITY, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE PUT OURSELVES ON THE MAP.
WE'RE VERY DIFFERENT THAN, I LIKE TO SAY, THE COAST, THEY KIND OF REFER TO US SOMETIMES AS THE WILD, WILD WEST OUT HERE, AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT, WE BUT WE ALSO EMBRACE THE COMMUNITY.
WE MAKE SURE THAT WE SUPPORT OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS, WE'RE SUPPORTING OUR TEACHERS. WE'RE SUPPORTING THE STUDENTS. WE ALSO HAVE A SCHOLARSHIP FUND. SO I REALLY THINK WITH THE CHAMBER, WE REALLY KIND OF DO A LITTLE THINGS DIFFERENT HERE BECAUSE WE DO LOVE OUR COMMUNITY SO MUCH, AND WE WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF EVERYONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND IF YOU WOULD JOIN US OVER HERE. YOU. IN THE BACK. YEAH. I'M USED TO IT. OKAY. THANK YOU.
SO NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE EVENING. MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, MADAM MAYOR. OKAY, MOVING RIGHT ALONG. COMMENTS BY OUR VILLAGE COUNCIL
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MEMBERS. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, SO IT'S THE END OF THE YEAR FOR THE CLASS, FOR THE STUDENTS. THE TEACHERS. SO EXPECT OUR LIBRARIES TO BE FULL AND OUR, STREETS TO BE WITH WALKING STUDENTS DURING THEIR SUMMER VACATION. SO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW YOU'RE PREPARED FOR THAT. AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO THANK VILLAGE STAFF FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO. YES, I, I HAVE SOME THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, BUT I DON'T. I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH OUR AGENDA. SO IF WE CAN HOLD OFF ON THAT, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME ISSUES THAT THAT HAVE COME UP, THAT HAVE COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT I THINK WE NEED TO SPEAK ABOUT. OKAY VICE MAYOR PEREZ, GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, I WANT TO LET THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT I WILL NOT BE ATTENDING THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, I HAVE BEEN NOMINATED THROUGH TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK TO ATTEND THE FEEDING AMERICA POWER SUMMIT IN WASHINGTON, DC. SO I WILL BE REPRESENTING FOOD BANK AND INDIANTOWN, THE FIRST WEEK OF JUNE. WELL, SECOND WEEK OF JUNE. OKAY WELL, FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS, VERY WELL DESERVED RECOGNITION, ALSO, JUST TO KIND OF BUILD ON THE SCHOOL'S OUT. I COULDN'T HAVE COME SOON ENOUGH. THE KIDS WERE READY. BELIEVE ME, THE KIDS WERE READY.BUT ALSO, AS WE'RE GETTING INTO SUMMER, THE MARTIN COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, FOOD AND NUTRITION SERVICES, THEY WILL BE HAVING FREE MEALS FOR KIDS 18 YEARS OLD AND UNDER. THERE ARE, IT LOOKS
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LIKE TWO OPPORTUNITIES IN INDIANTOWN, GOING TO BE AT SAINT LUCIE MOBILE VILLAGE. ALSO SO.AND BOOKER PARK, 169TH AVE IS THAT GOING TO BE AT THE AT THE. OKAY. GOOD. AT AT OUR FACILITY OVER THERE AT THE OLD FIREHOUSE OVER THERE. OUR PARKS AND REC OVER THERE, IT IS A FREE, LET'S SEE, FREE LUNCH, WELL, NOW, SAINT LOUIS, I'M. AND I'M TRYING TO READ THIS AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH HERE, SAINT LUCIE, MOBILE VILLAGE, FREE BREAKFAST AND LUNCH PROVIDED. FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. MAY THE 31ST TO 26. BETWEEN 10 AND 1130, MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, MAY THE 28TH THROUGH THE 26TH. BETWEEN 1130 AND 1230. AND IN BOOKER PARK. IT IS, FRIDAY, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, THE 20TH MAY 28TH THROUGH JULY 26TH BETWEEN 1 AND 2. BUT OF COURSE, THESE SITES WILL BE CLOSED ON JULY 4TH. BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M SURE THE MARTIN COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT OR I THINK WE WILL HAVE THIS POSTED. SO THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR KIDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET WHAT THEY NEED THROUGH THE SUMMER. OKAY.
AND THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE COMMITTEE REPORTS. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WITH A COMMITTEE REPORT
[COMMITTEE REPORTS]
SEEING? NONE, WE DID HAVE A COMMUNITY TRUST FUND COMMITTEE MEETING THAT INFORMATION WILL BE. OR IS POSTED. IS IT? IT WILL BE OKAY, STARTING JUNE THE 1ST THROUGH JULY, THE FIRST, WE WILL BE ACCEPTING THE COMMUNITY TRUST FUND GRANT APPLICATIONS. THAT INFORMATION WILL BE GOING ONLINE NEXT WEEK. OKAY. IT WILL BE GOING ONLINE NEXT WEEK. IT JUST HAS TO BE ADVERTISED FIRST. OKAY IN THE PAPER. OKAY OKAY. OKAY. SO ALL THAT'S BEING TAKEN CARE OF, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THE, THE ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE AND WE'RE MAKING SURE WE'RE STAYING LEGAL. THANK YOU, AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU LOOK FOR IT I KNOW THAT I HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN TO THE, MARTIN COUNTY FOUR H LEADER, DAVID HAFFNER, AND INFORMED HIM AND WAS EVEN SAW SOME FOUR H LEADERS, LOCAL FOUR H LEADERS INFORMED THEM, ALL WE'VE GOT. THE INDIANTOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL HAS BEEN, NOTIFIED, INDIANTOWN HIGH SCHOOL HAS BEEN NOTIFIED. AND SOMETHING HAS BEEN SAID AT WARFIELD ELEMENTARY. SO THE LOCAL SCHOOLS HAVEN'T, COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY SHARE WITHIN THEIR SPHERE OF INFLUENCE. IF WE COULD LET HOLY CROSS KNOW, IF YOU COULD LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT APPLICATION PROCESS IS GOING AND ANY OTHER CHURCH OR NONPROFIT OR COMMUNITY, ORGANIZATION THAT COULD UTILIZE THAT MAKE SURE THAT WE LET THEM KNOW AND IT WILL BE ON OUR WEBSITE, AND WE'LL BE PUTTING, I'M SURE, FACEBOOK ANNOUNCEMENTS OR WHATEVER THEY ARE. SO AND ONCE AT THE END, THAT, COMMITTEE WILL MEET AGAIN IN JULY AFTER ALL THE , GRANT APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN[COMMENTS BY VILLAGE MANAGER]
RECEIVED. OKAY. COMMENTS BY OUR VILLAGE MANAGER. THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE. ONE, YESTERDAY WE RECEIVED FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE YOUR 2024 ESTIMATED PRELIMINARY TAXABLE VALUES. WE WERE HAPPY TO SEE THAT IT ACTUALLY, YOUR THE TAX BASE WENT UP. IT WENT UP ROUGHLY 4.7, AND THAT WAS GOOD NEWS. WE'RE TRYING TO GET FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER. EXACTLY WHERE IT WENT UP. BECAUSE INITIALLY GOING INTO THIS, WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A DECREASE. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THAT INFORMATION. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, LAST THURSDAY THERE WAS AN INCIDENT AT THE FPL PLANT . THEY HAD A FIRE AND A EXPLOSION, TWO OF THEIR EMPLOYEES DID GET INJURED, AND WE HAD ONE FIREFIGHTER THAT GOT INJURED, AND THE FIRE RESCUE STEPPED IN. EVEN THOUGH FPL HAS A EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM. BUT OUR FIRE RESCUE HAD FOUR STATIONS ON SITE WITH 32 FULL TIME FIREFIGHTERS FIGHTING THAT.SO WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH MARTIN COUNTY, AND THAT HAS
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ALWAYS BEEN AN ARGUMENT WITH SO MUCH INDUSTRIAL OUT HERE. YOU YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE NEEDS TO PROTECT ITS RESIDENTS FROM INCIDENTS LIKE THAT. THAT'S IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I THINK THIS IS, THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH AND WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, ACTUALLY HAVING, THIS SITUATION JUST ABSOLUTELY PROVES THAT, MORE THAN ONE FIRE TRUCK AND ONE EMS IS NEEDED IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS. OKAY. YEAH. AND I'M. EXCUSE ME, MAYOR, I'M SORRY, BUT THE CLERK JUST REMINDED US THAT WE HAVE YOUR JOINT MEETING ON JUNE 13TH. OH, AND THE VILLAGE IS HOST. IS CHAIR OKAY. AND THAT STARTS AT 8 A.M, 9 A.M, AND IT'S AT THE BLAKE LIBRARY OVER IN STEWART.OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. THAT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING. OKAY SO WE'RE
[APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]
MOVING RIGHT ALONG NOW TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO. IS THERE A SECOND. I SECOND SECOND HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. ANY DISCUSSION, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, MADAM MAYOR, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER SIX, APPROVAL OF FILTER MEDIA AND UNDER DRAIN CLEANING. YES, MA'AM. YOUR UTILITIES AND PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, MR. NOLAN, WILL TAKE THAT ITEM. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS ITEM IS, PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE. I'M SORRY, CAN I STOP? WE. YOU DID THE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT, BUT NOT THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. YEAH. OH, IT'S DOWN THERE AT THE VERY BOTTOM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR KEEPING ME STRAIGHT. OKAY, LET ME EXCUSE US JUST A MOMENT.[CONSENT AGENDA]
LET ME LET ME MAKE SURE I'M DOING DOING RIGHT, OKAY. SO WE HAVE THE REGULAR AGENDA. DO I HEAR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF OUR REGULAR AGENDA? MOTION A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. SECOND. MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. ANY DISCUSSION IN PUBLIC DISCUSSION? NO, MADAM MAYOR. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. PASSED[6.
Approval of Filter Media and Underdrain Cleaning.
]UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. NOW WE CAN MOVE ON. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S FINE, PAT NOLAN, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. UTILITIES DIRECTOR. WHAT THIS ITEM IS, IS PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE FOR THE FILTERS AT THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. WITH THE BEAVER WORKS TRAILER GOING ONLINE, WE DISCOVERED THAT WE WERE PUTTING CLEANER WATER INTO THE FILTERS THAN WHAT WAS COMING OUT. SO WE TESTED THE FILTERS, AND THEY ARE CLEANABLE. WE DON'T HAVE TO REPLACE THE MEDIA JUST YET. WE ARE WORKING ON A PLAN TO UPGRADE THE FILTERS IN THE FUTURE, BUT FOR NOW, A CLEANING WOULD IMPROVE THE PERFORMANCE. SO THAT'S WHAT THE ITEM IS. BEFORE YOU. OKAY. AND WE HAVE IT IN YOUR BUDGET TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. WE DO. OKAY. THAT BUDGET SEEMS TO REALLY BE GOING A LONG WAY. WE'RE WE SO GLAD FOR THAT. OKAY. IS THERE ANY ANY DISCUSSION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. MOTION FOR APPROVAL? A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY VICE MAYOR PERES? IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION? NO. MADAM MAYOR, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY, THANK YOU.THANK YOU. OKAY, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. YES, MA'AM, THAT THIS IS AN APPROVAL TO
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Approval to Utilize American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) Funds for the Purchase of a Vehicle for Utilities
]UTILIZE YOUR AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS ARPA FUNDS FOR THE PURCHASE OF A VEHICLE FOR UTILITIES, BACK ON JUNE 23RD, 2022, THE INDIAN TOWN VILLAGE COUNCIL APPROVED THE USE OF THOSE ARPA FUNDS FOR REPAIRS ON TRAIL DRIVE, MARTIN COUNTY HAD PREVIOUSLY HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MOVING THE BUS STOP, PAVILION FROM ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD TO THE OTHER, MARTIN, I REACHED OUT TO MARTIN COUNTY AND THEY INDICATED THE PROJECT IS IN DESIGN PHASE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WON'T BE FUNDED UNTIL 2025. THE ARPA FUNDS AND CHECKING WITH MR. FLORIO HAVE BEEN EXTENDED FOR WHEN THEY NEED TO BE SPENT. BUT IT'S NEXT YEAR. IT'S 2025 ALSO, SO I WAS PLANNING TO, WE HAD THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER THAT YOU APPROVED. I HAD FUNDING IN THERE FOR A VEHICLE AS WELL AS[00:25:01]
THAT POSITION AT THAT TIME, I USED A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WAS STALE OR OLD. RIGHT. AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS TO GET THE TRUCK IN TALKING WITH MR. NOLAN, HE'S GOT THE OLDEST FLEET. SO MY THOUGHTS WERE, IF WE CAN USE THESE ARPA FUNDS, WE WOULD BUY A NEW TRUCK THAT WOULD GO BE ASSIGNED TO UTILITIES, SPECIFICALLY THE UTILITIES DIRECTOR, BECAUSE HE'S DRIVING A 2007 TRUCK. 2006, AND THEN WE CAN REPURPOSE ANOTHER VEHICLE TO, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. IN THE MEANTIME, PARKS HAS BEEN GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO LET US USE THE VAN AND ALSO USE A TRUCK BECAUSE THE AC WENT OUT OF THE OTHER CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER'S TRUCK. SO, THE REQUEST IS TO GO AHEAD AND UTILIZE THOSE ARPA FUNDS, THE TRUCK IS IN STOCK. IT'S ON THE LOT. IT'S $40,791.20. SO THAT WILL LEAVE ROUGHLY A BALANCE OF ABOUT 20, 20,000 IN THOSE FUNDS. IN THOSE ARPA FUNDS. OKAY. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS AT THE MOMENT? DO WE WANT TO WAIT? COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ YES. AND WHAT ARE WE PLANNING FOR THAT X OR REMAINING BALANCE IN THE ARPA FUNDS? WE DON'T HAVE A PURPOSE. I MEAN, MR. FLORIO AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT JUST LEAVING IT THERE UNTIL SEEING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WE'VE PUT ON THE STREET. WE'RE FINDING OUR BIDS ARE ARE HIGHER COMING IN HIGHER THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATE, RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE WE'RE PUTTING OUR BUDGET TOGETHER RIGHT NOW. SO BEFORE THEY CAN BE SPENT, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS COUNCIL REGARDLESS. OKAY THANK YOU. AND THOSE FUNDS NEED TO BE SPENT. WHY? WHAT'S THE DEADLINE ON THAT? IT'S THE END OF NEXT YEAR. DECEMBER OF 2025. OKAY AND THE, MARTIN COUNTY DID NOT INDICATE, FORWARD MOVEMENT OF OTHER THAN. IT'S JUST IN THE DESIGN PHASE FOR THE FOR THE IT'S IN THE DESIGN PHASE. AND ONCE THEY HAVE SOME INDICATION OF, OF THE COST, THEN THEY'LL GO AHEAD AND PUT THE CONSTRUCTION IN THEIR BUDGET. OKAY. BUT IT'S GOING TO BE DEPENDENT UPON THEIR COMMISSIONERS APPROVING THAT BUDGET REQUEST. RIGHT OKAY OKAY.THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS QUESTIONS. BEFORE WE MOVE ON I GUESS IN THE MEANTIME WE NEED A NEED A TRUCK, AND I'M GOING TO I THINK THE TRUCKS CAN BE ASSIGNED TO PAT. RIGHT. YES.
AND BE A TAKE HOME VEHICLE. THAT'S, COUNCIL. I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF TAKING TAKING THE VEHICLE HOME WITH THEM. HE'S RUNNING THE DEPARTMENT THAT HE COULD BE CALLED OUT AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING. AND I THINK HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT VEHICLE WITH HIM, ASSIGN IT TO HIM, AND, YOU KNOW. HE'S THE MOST IMPORTANT. I MEAN, PEOPLE DON'T HAVE WATER. SOMETHING HAPPENS, A PIPE BREAKS, HE'S GOT TO COME OUT. HE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO IT IN HIS OWN VEHICLE. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THE VEHICLE AND THE DISCRETION OF THE VILLAGE MANAGER TO ASSIGN THE VEHICLE TO HIM. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO. A SECOND BY VICE MAYOR PERES. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION? NO, MADAM MAYOR. OKAY ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. NAY OKAY. AND I PASSED. 3 TO 1. OKAY. WE HAVE NO FIRST READING, NO SECOND READING. WE HAVE
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Updated Draft Revisions to Special Event Regulations for Council Review
]DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, UPDATED DRAFT REVISIONS. OH, YEAH. WE'LL TURN THAT OVER TO MR. VOSS. YEP MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING, WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, SOME UPDATED DRAFT REVISIONS TO THE SPECIAL EVENTS REGULATION FOR YOUR REVIEW AND THE PUBLIC'S REVIEW.ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM. I'M GOING TO THROW IT UP ON THE SCREEN HERE. MAY OR MAY NOT BE PARTICULARLY READABLE, BUT WE WILL SEE, IN ONE SECOND. LET ME MAKE THIS HAPPEN. DO ANYTHING AT ALL. IT REALLY DOESN'T. SORRY ABOUT THAT. WE'LL JUST GO WITH IT VERBALLY. WE'VE MADE A NUMBER
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OF REVISIONS BASED ON THE FEEDBACK FROM YOUR LAST MEETING, AT WHICH YOU HAD A DRAFT OF SPECIAL EVENTS REGULATION REVISIONS BEFORE YOU. IT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU'LL FIND IN THE AGENDA ITEM. IN THE AGENDA ITEM, THERE WAS BOTH THE REVISED DRAFT ORDINANCE AND THE GENERATED REDLINE THAT SHOWED THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE PRIOR VERSION AND THE CURRENT DRAFT. BEFORE YOU GO OVER SOME OF THE MAJOR CHANGES, I THINK PROBABLY THE MOST IMPACTFUL CHANGE BASED ON THE GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION THE COUNCIL GAVE THE LAST MEETING WAS, THE EXCLUSION OF A WHOLE LIST OF EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES FROM THE DEFINITION OF SPECIAL EVENT. OKAY, BASICALLY THAT, THE REVISED DRAFT EXPRESSLY EXCLUDED FROM THE DEFINITION A COUPLE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES WEDDINGS, FUNERALS, WAKES, BIRTHDAY PARTIES, ANNIVERSARY PARTIES, GRADUATION PARTIES, AND OTHER SIMILAR EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES GENERALLY NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. SO PERSONAL EVENTS OF ANY SORT, ANY TYPE, ANY SIZE, THAT ARE NOT GENERALLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC COMPLETELY OFF THE TABLE, EXPRESSLY RIGHT IN THE DEFINITION. SECOND, GOING TO THE, THE, TRYING TO CRAFT SOMETHING THAT WOULD GET TO, I THINK SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BEING DISCUSSED ABOUT HAVING REGULATIONS OF SPECIAL EVENTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND SO ON, THIS EXCLUSION EXCLUDES EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES, EVEN IF OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, THAT ARE HELD INDOORS OR WITHIN THE LICENSED PREMISES OF A RESTAURANT OR BAR, CONSISTENT WITH MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY AND FIRE SAFETY REGULATIONS. SO THE GENERAL IDEA IS IF IT'S INDOORS, WE'RE NOT WORRYING ABOUT IT IN ANY OF THIS, THIRD CATEGORY OF EXCLUSIONS IS EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES, EVEN IF OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, HELD SOLELY ON THE PROPERTY OF A CHURCH, CIVIC ORGANIZATION OR SCHOOL, THERE WAS DISCUSSION AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THOUGHT THAT WITH REGARD TO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CHURCHES IN TOWN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A FESTIVAL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME OTHER THING ON YOUR CHURCH PROPERTY THAT THAT DID NOT NEED TO BE A SPECIAL EVENT, THAT THAT THERE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT. AND SO THAT'S BUILT IN AS A BIG BROAD EXEMPTION IN THE DEFINITION HERE. I ADDED ALSO, THERE'S A REASON WHY I ADDED CIVIC ORGANIZATION. THERE'S SOME LEGAL REASONS WHY YOU WOULDN'T CALL OUT JUST A CHURCH, BUT ALSO SAY A NONPROFIT CIVIC ORGANIZATION AS WELL, AND I ALSO ADDED SCHOOL JUST IN CASE. I FIGURED THAT MIGHT GO ALONG WITH THE SAME RATIONALE. IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN EVENT SOLELY ON SCHOOL PROPERTY THAT WOULD OTHERWISE LOOK LIKE A SPECIAL EVENT, BUT IS REALLY MORE LIKE A CHURCH FESTIVAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THOUGHT MAYBE THAT WOULD BE THE DIRECTION YOU ALL WOULD WANT TO GO. FOURTH, AND THIS HAS BEEN THE POLICY OF THE COUNCIL AND THE VILLAGE, BUT WE'VE NEVER HAD IT WRITTEN DOWN IN THE CODE AND THAT IS EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES AUTHORIZED BY MARTIN COUNTY TO BE HELD AT TIMER POWERS PARK. IF IT'S BEING HELD AT THE COUNTY REGIONAL PARK AND THE COUNTY'S HANDLING IT, THEN IT'S BEEN THE POLICY OF THE COUNCIL TO SAY, WE'RE NOT HANDLING THAT, SO WE'RE JUST WRITING IT INTO THE CODE, FIFTH, RENTAL OF VILLAGE INDOOR FACILITIES, RENTAL OF VILLAGE PAVILIONS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES FOR WHICH THE VILLAGE HAS OTHERWISE ISSUED A PERMIT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S NOT REGULATED. THE VILLAGE HANDLES THOSE THINGS FOR RENTING INDOOR FACILITIES AND PAVILIONS AND SO ON. BUT THOSE AREN'T. THOSE DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE FULL BLOWN SPECIAL, SPECIAL EVENT PROCESS THAT'S JUST FOR THOSE PARTICULAR THINGS . SO, THE UPDATED DRAFT ALSO UPDATED THE DEFINITION OF MAJOR SPECIAL EVENT. ORIGINALLY IT WAS AS LOW AS 100 OR 100 OR MORE.PUT IT UP TO 250 OR MORE. OF COURSE, WHATEVER GUIDANCE THE COUNCIL, GIVES ME WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN. BUT I THE GENERAL DIRECTION I FELT I GOT WAS MAKE THAT NUMBER SOMEWHAT LARGER. IN ADDITION, AND THIS IS TO ADDRESS THE STAFF CONCERN AND I SEE THIS IN A NUMBER OF JURISDICTIONS AN ISSUE WE GET WHENEVER YOU SET A NUMBER FOR A SMALL EVENT OR A LARGE EVENT OR WHAT HAVE YOU, YOU GET AN APPLICATION. LET'S SAY IT WAS 250. YOU LITERALLY GET AN APPLICATION. SO THEY'LL WRITE 249 AND I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT EVENTS WHERE THEY WOULD WRITE 249 WOULD END UP WITH 400 PEOPLE SHOWING UP. IT JUST IN MY EXPERIENCE, THE SO TO ADDRESS THAT, A TYPICAL PROVISION WHICH WE HAVE ADDED IN HERE NOW IS THE DEFINITION PROVIDES THE FINAL DETERMINATION OF THE ESTIMATED NUMBER OF ATTENDEES WE MADE BY THE VILLAGE MANAGER, BASED ON ALL THE AVAILABLE INFORMATION.
SO IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND NOT NECESSARILY IN BAD FAITH, BUT IT'S OBVIOUS ON ALL THE FACTS AVAILABLE THAT IT'S MASSIVELY UNDERESTIMATED, STAFF IS NOT LOCKED TO THAT NUMBER. THEY CAN LOOK AT IT AND LOOK AT A REALISTIC NUMBER OF WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY ESTIMATED TO BE. WE
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ALSO UPDATED THE REQUIREMENTS AND PROCESS RELATED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRE RESCUE SUPPORT. THE UPDATED DRAFT CLARIFIES THAT MAJOR SPECIAL EVENTS, EVEN IF THEY'RE OVER THAT THRESHOLD, ONLY REQUIRE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OR FIRE RESCUE. IF THAT PARTICULAR AGENCY FINDS IT ADVISABLE. AND THEN AT THOSE LEVELS. SO IT MAY BE THAT ONE OR BOTH OF THE AGENCIES LOOK AT IT AND SAY, YEAH, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 300 PEOPLE THERE, BUT THE FACILITY IS SET UP FOR IT. WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING ELSE. AND SO THEY COULD SAY, ZERO, WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING. IT'S EXPRESSLY WRITTEN THAT WAY. NOW THE UPDATED DRAFT ALSO, DOES NOT REQUIRE WE CHANGE IT AROUND. SO IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT THE AGENCIES BE ENGAGED PRIOR TO SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION BECAUSE OF COURSE, THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE'S CURRENT PRACTICE. IT DOES REQUIRE THAT AN APPLICANT SUBMIT COPIES OF AN EMAIL TO EACH AGENCY, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE, APPLYING FOR THAT, APPLYING FOR A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT AND HOLDING A SPECIAL EVENT, LETTING THEM KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO NEED, RESOURCES AND WHATEVER AMOUNTS THEY DETERMINE, SO IT'S JUST EVIDENCE THAT THEY'VE ADVISED THEM THAT IT'S COMING, NOT THAT THEY'VE GOTTEN PERMISSION OR SIGNED THEM UP YET. AND THEN THAT ADDS A REQUIREMENT THAT AFTER THEY ENGAGE WHICHEVER AGENCIES THEY NEED TO ENGAGE. AND THIS IS AFTER THE APPLICATION PROCESS HAS BEEN SUBMITTED. AND SO ON, THEY'LL SUBMIT THE, CONFIRMATION BACK FROM THAT AGENCY THAT THEY WERE, IN FACT, ENGAGED. BUT THAT'S NOT PRIOR TO THE APPLICATION. THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THEY NEED TO SUPPLEMENT AND GIVE TO VILLAGE STAFF LATER. WE WENT AHEAD AND DID SOME DEFINITION CHANGES. DID BREAK OUT SEPARATELY, PROCESSIONS, AS, AS A SEPARATE EVENT, REMOVE THE DAY AND TIME LIMITATIONS THAT WERE IN THERE FROM BEFORE THE GENERAL. THE GENERAL, DIRECTION I THINK I GOT FROM THE COUNCIL WAS THAT WASN'T REALLY APPLICABLE, TO WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON HERE. THERE WERE SOME REVISIONS CONCERNING, PERMIT APPROVAL, AND SO ON.ADDED THE POSSIBILITY IT WAS ALREADY IMPLICIT IN THE LANGUAGE, BUT I MADE IT REALLY CLEAR THAT A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT COULD BE APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS AND THAT'S A VERY COMMON THING IN ANY SORT OF PERMIT THAT'S THAT'S APPROVED FOR ANYTHING, SO WE HAVE LANGUAGE EXPRESSLY DIRECTED TO THAT ADDED LANGUAGE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT APPLICATIONS MAY BE SUBMITTED UP TO 365 DAYS PRIOR TO A PROPOSED EVENT. SO, THAT WAS KIND OF IMPLICITLY THERE, BUT IT'S RIGHT ON THE FACE OF IT. SO YOU CAN POINT TO IT AND SAY, YOU CAN, YOU CAN APPLY IT, YOU KNOW, A YEAR AHEAD OF TIME, AND THOSE ARE THE BASICS OF THE CHANGES YOU FIND IN THE REVISED DRAFT ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU. AND I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OR WOULD BE GLAD TO FACILITATE ANY DISCUSSION WITH STAFF OR AMONG COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU. WHO WANTS TO START? HAVE ANYTHING? I'M GOOD. OKAY. TALKING ABOUT, PARK RENTAL AND IT'S TAKEN CARE OF. WHAT IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND THEY WANT TO RENT THE WHOLE PARK? SO IN THAT, IN THAT INSTANCE, THE PARK'S RULES AND REGS THEN WOULD COVER THE WHOLE PARK THAT'S PART OF THE PARKS. SO PARTICULARLY PARTICULARLY WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE LAID OUT IN HERE IS, IS VILLAGE INDOOR FACILITY AND PAVILIONS.
OKAY, OKAY. AND SO ACTUALLY I WOULD WELCOME WELCOME. FURTHER INPUT RENTING RENTING THE WHOLE PARK. WOULD IT, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE THAT IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE SPECIAL EVENT PROCESS. THANK YOU. DEBBIE RISSOS PARKS DIRECTOR, SO CURRENTLY IN THE MASTER FEE PLAN, YOU GUYS HAVE FEES FOR PARK RENTAL, AND IT'S FOR EVENTS THAT ARE LESS THAN 150 PEOPLE. ANYTHING BIGGER THAN THAT WOULD COME BEFORE THE TERRAIN. FOR WITH THE NEW CHANGES. OKAY. GOOD. THANK YOU.
YEAH FOR THAT. AND THAT WAS MY, MY NEXT THING. IT IS STATES IN THERE THAT IT WANTS. THESE THINGS ARE ARE FULFILLED. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
YES. AND THAT'S, THAT CARRIES OVER. I ONLY ADDRESS THE THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED FROM THE PRIOR DRAFT. BUT YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. IN THE ORIGINAL SET OF REVISIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO YOU, A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO, THERE'S NO INSTANCE WHERE FOR ANY OF THIS IS COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
ALL OF IT IS HANDLED AT THE STAFF LEVEL WITH THE SATISFACTION OF THE SET OUT CRITERIA. YOU KNOW, THE CRITERIA IS PLAIN ENOUGH THAT IT SHOULD SHOULD NOT HAVE TO OR SHOULD NOT
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BE ANY QUESTION OR ANY REASON TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT HAS THE PROCESS FOR, YOU KNOW, A REVIEW OR WHATEVER. SO I KNOW THAT REMEMBER THAT WAS IN THERE. OKAY DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. NOBODY FROM THE. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY OF THIS? NO. MADAM MAYOR OKAY. DO WE SO THAT WAS A DISCUSSION ITEM. SO THE NEXT STEPS, WILL BE THIS WILL BE SENT TO A MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BECAUSE IT IS A LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION IN YOUR ELDERS. AND THEN AFTER IT GOES THROUGH THERE, IT'LL BE COMING BEFORE YOU AS AN ORDINANCE FOR TWO READINGS. OKAY. FANTASTIC. OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE WORK. ABSOLUTELY OKAY. SO THEN AS IT WAS STATED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, WE HAVE, ITEM NUMBER NINE. I GUESS THAT WAS WHAT IT WILL BECOME, COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO. YOU HAVE SOMETHING? WELL, I HAVE THREE THINGS. I HAVE, I WANTED TO DISCUSS THE TENT ORDINANCE, AND LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T GET THAT, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT AND GET A DIRECTION ON THAT. I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE CIVIC CENTER, AND IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT. WHAT WAS IT? LOSING MY MIND, BUT ANYWAY, WE'LL START WITH THE CIVIC CENTER. SO IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE'S A GRANT THAT WAS APPLIED FOR AND IT'S BEEN SPENT HERE FOR SEVERAL, I'VE BEEN HERE ALMOST TWO YEARS, AND IT WAS HERE WHEN I GOT HERE. THIS GRANT IS A VERY MAINTENANCE OR A VERY HEAVY LIFT FOR THE VILLAGE STAFF THAT WERE OBVIOUSLY UNDERSTAFFED. AND THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF STUFF ON THEIR PLATE. SO AND THE VILLAGE HAS SPENT $40,000 OF ITS MONEY TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON THINGS THAT HAVE HAD TO BE DONE BY RULE OF THE GRANT. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THAT THE VILLAGE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN INVOLVED WITH, WHERE THE CIVIC CENTER IS A PRIVATE ENTITY. AND IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THEY HAD A MEETING THERE FOR FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. AND YOU KNOW, THEY WERE CHARGED $300 TO HAVE THIS MEETING FOR FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS. SO THERE'S NOTHING BENEFITING THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. AND WHEN I SAY THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, I MEAN THE TAXPAYER. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE VILLAGE TO KEEP GOING WITH THIS GRANT OR JUST GIVING IT BACK AND WASHING OUR HANDS OF IT. NOW I DID REACH OUT. TODAY, FINALLY, AFTER PLAYING PHONE TAG TO SEE IF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE CIVIC CENTER WOULD LIKE TO SELL IT, AND MAYBE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THE VILLAGE TO OWN IT. AND WE CAN GET SOME REVENUE OUT OF IT TO HELP OUR TAX SITUATION, I WAS TOLD IN NO TERMS THAT IT WOULD, THAT THE VILLAGE WOULD EVER GET THE HANDS ON IT. AND THAT'S THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE. BUT I FEEL A RESPONSIBILITY SINCE DAY ONE TO THE TAXPAYERS OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN TO PUT THIS VILLAGE ON THE ROAD TO SUCCESS AND PROSPERITY. OKAY. TO KEEP OUR TAX MILLAGE, OUR MILLAGE RATE LOW. AND WE'VE GOT SO MUCH CATCHING UP TO DO THAT, THAT $40,000 THAT WE SPENT THAT WE'RE NOT COLLECTING INTEREST ON IT. WE'RE NOT GETTING IT BACK.WE CAN'T KEEP GOING DOWN THE SAME ROAD. AND THERE'S SO MUCH WORK THAT THE STAFF HAS TO DO ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS THAT MANAGING THAT GRANT. I DON'T THINK IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE VILLAGE BECAUSE IT TAKES MONEY, IT TAKES MONEY. THEY GET PAID PAYCHECKS. IT'S JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE
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COMING TO US AND SAYING, WELL, WE WANT WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HAVE OUR, OUR FEES WAIVED. WELL, WE CAN'T WAIVE FEES BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? THAT'S HOW WE PAY OUR PEOPLE. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND TRANSPARENT, THEN I THINK WE HAVE TO DO THE RIGHT THING. AND PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE PUTTING PUBLIC DOLLARS INTO A PRIVATE BUSINESS, EVEN IF IT IS A NONPROFIT. I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING. SO SO WE'RE A VILLAGE THAT IS ON THE PATH TO GROWTH, AND MAYBE ONE DAY HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE, BECAUSE WE HAVE INVESTORS AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HELP US, WE CAN BUILD A CIVIC CENTER AND IT WON'T COST THE TAXPAYER OF INDIAN TOWN BECAUSE I THINK FOR ME, WE'RE HAVING A, A WORKSHOP THAT IS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE READY FOR THESE HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING, TRYING TO GET THEM CREDIT WORTHY AND GET THEM EDUCATED. AND IF THAT ISN'T A CIVIC, A COMMUNITY EVENT TO HELP THE COMMUNITY, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS, AND FOR THEM TO HAVE TO PAY TO USE THAT VENUE, TO ME THAT'S A KICK IN THE TEETH AND WE'VE GOT $40,000 INVESTED IN IT AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT $40,000 BACK AND GET IT BACK INTO THE POCKETS OF THE TAXPAYER TO. YES. DO YOU HAVE MORE HISTORY ON IT THAN I DO? OKAY MAYOR. COUNCIL. MIKE FLORIO , JUST A LITTLE HISTORY ON THIS GRANT. SO THIS GRANT, GOES BACK TO, I BELIEVE, 2021, IT WAS A GRANT THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. NOW, THE FLORIDA COMMERCE, IT IS FUNDED THROUGH THE, HUD UNDER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, IT WAS A GRANT FOR A $550,000, AND THE PURPOSE OF THE GRANT WAS, INTENDED TO HARDEN THE CIVIC CENTER AS AN EMERGENCY SHELTER, INCLUDING AN EMERGENCY PET SHELTER, I THINK THE, MAYBE SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR AND, COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ CAN SPEAK TO THE HISTORY OF THIS. THEY WERE ON THE BOARD AT THAT TIME, I THINK WHEN THIS GRANT WAS ULTIMATELY APPROVED. BUT THERE WAS A BELIEF, A CONCEPT AT THAT TIME, THAT THAT WAS A IMPORTANT COMMUNITY FUNCTION TO TRY TO PUT IN PLACE OUT HERE, SINCE THERE ISN'T AN EMERGENCY SHELTER, OR A PET SHELTER. AND HARDENING THAT BUILDING, THROUGH FEDERAL FUNDS WOULD BE A WAY OF, ACCOMPLISHING THAT, THE STATUS OF THE GRANT AS OF RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE PAID, KIMLEY-HORN ENGINEERS, $40,000 FOR OUR, DESIGN OF THE HARDENING OF THAT BUILDING. AND THERE ARE FEW ASPECTS TO THAT. I BELIEVE MOST OF THAT IS, IS, REBUILD, RECONSTRUCT OF THE ROOF. AND I KNOW IT'S ALSO INCLUDING INSTALLATION OF GENERATOR POWER ON, ON PREMISES. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH SINCE LAST YEAR WHEN THIS GRANT REALLY KIND OF HAD, FRANKLY, GONE, GONE A LITTLE BIT DORMANT AND WE KIND OF RESURRECTED IT AND PICKED IT BACK UP AGAIN, THE, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT WAS REQUIRED BY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT. THERE ARE SEVERAL PROCEDURES THAT THEY WANTED US TO ADOPT THAT, THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO EVERYTHING FROM, ANTI-FRAUD AND WASTE AND ABUSE, TO, CERTAIN THINGS REGARDING, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SOME OF THEIR EXCESSIVE FORCE POLICIES THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE US ADOPT, WHICH ARE, AGAIN, COMES STRAIGHT OUT OF WASHINGTON. WE DIDN'T CREATE THAT. THAT'S JUST POLICIES THAT THEY REQUIRE US TO HAVE IN PLACE, WHICH WE CURRENTLY DO NOT. WE'VE BEEN DRAFTING THOSE AND WORKING ON THOSE, WITH WADE'S OFFICE AND HIS ATTORNEYS THERE AND WORKING WITH THE FLORIDA COMMERCE OFFICE TO FINALIZE THOSE PROCEDURES AND TO EVENTUALLY BRING THEM BACK TO THE BOARD, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY RESOLUTION, BEFORE YOU, THERE'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT FOR A ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY ON THE PREMISES TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT AN ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AS A RESULT OF THIS PROJECT. AND THIS IS A MAINSTAY, I THINK, WITH ALL CDBG GRANTS, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE SAME THING FOR THE SEMINOLE AVENUE PROJECT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY, IN BID PHASE. AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR, BID OPENING ON THAT NEXT[00:50:06]
WEEK SOMETIME. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE FULL GAMUT OF MY HISTORY AND KNOWLEDGE ON THIS, AGAIN, IT DID, I THINK, WAS INTENDED TO SERVE A PUBLIC PURPOSE WITH, ASSISTING THE COMMUNITY FOR EMERGENCY SHELTER DURING, YOU KNOW, A WEATHER EMERGENCY AND FOR, PET FRIENDLY SHELTER AS WELL, AGAIN, YES, IT IS TRUE THAT WE HAVE $40,000 OUT OF POCKET. IT'S OUR INTENT TO RECAPTURE THAT AND RECOUP THAT. WHETHER WE GO ANY FURTHER ONCE WE GET TO THE BID PHASE OF THIS PROJECT, THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN, BECAUSE, AGAIN, I THINK WE WOULD UNLESS, AGAIN, THE COUNCIL DECIDES SOME OTHER ACTION, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD OUR NEXT STEP AFTER GETTING REIMBURSEMENT WOULD TO MOVE TO WOULD BE TO MOVE TO BID PHASE, SUBSEQUENT TO APPROVAL OF ALL THE POLICIES BY THE COUNCIL THAT CDBG WANTS AND SUBSEQUENT TO COMPLETION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE NEAR THE FINISH POINT ON THAT. NOW WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO GO TO BID AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THE BID SAYS. AND ONCE THAT BID IS OPENED, WE WOULD KNOW HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, ARE WE IN BUDGET OR OVER BUDGET FOR THAT PROJECT? AND THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, A QUESTION MARK AT THAT TIME, HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD THE COUNCIL LIKE TO PROCEED? SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THAT. IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE I CAN TRY TO ANSWER. SO I HAVE A QUESTION, APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK, ALL THE INFORMATION. YEAH. MY QUESTION IS THAT INFORMATION. HAS CAME TO THE ATTENTION OF COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO. HAS ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER BEEN MADE AWARE OF THIS SITUATION? NO. YOU MEAN THE STATUS OF THE GRANT YOU'RE SAYING OR. YEAH. WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO HAS HAS ALL THIS INFORMATION, AND I'M JUST KIND OF HEARING ABOUT IT AND I THINK IF, IF INFORMATION IS, IS, I GUESS, DIVULGED OR SPOKEN WITH THAT, I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE NEEDS TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE ALSO, SO WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. SO WE'RE UP TO SPEED. SO IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON THAT IS, YEAH. FEELING LIKE THEY'RE DEALING WITH IT ALONE BECAUSE THE REST OF US ARE HERE TOO. YEAH. WELL SOME OF THE INFORMATION HE GOT DID NOT COME FROM STAFF. OKAY FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, LIKE, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT GROUP HAD TO PAY $300. I HAD SET THAT UP.THAT'S THAT GROUP THAT YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT SETTING UP. BUT BUT ALL THIS, ALL THIS OTHER STUFF, WE JUST ALL NEED TO KIND OF BE ON THE SAME PAGE. SO WE'RE ALL ROWING IN THE SAME DIRECTION. SO YEAH. YEAH JUST I THINK MOVING FORWARD, WE REALLY NEED TO, TO BE IN SYNC ON THIS STUFF, WHICH WOULD REALLY BE GOOD. OKAY. BECAUSE YES, THIS INFORMATION IS DIDN'T REALLY REALIZE THAT ALL THIS WAS GOING ON IN THE BACKGROUND. SO WE NEED TO INCLUDE A SENSE. SO YEAH, WE CAN SUPPORT OUR STAFF BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT Y'ALL DOING ALL THAT IF IT'S NOT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE VILLAGE AND THE AND THE RESIDENTS IN THE VILLAGE, AND THAT THAT FACILITY HARDENING IT WOULD BE FOR SPECIFICALLY FOR A PET SHELTER BECAUSE INDIANTOWN DOES HAVE EMERGENCY SHELTERS.
OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOLS. YEAH. SO THAT WAS JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT. AND WHEN I THINK IT WAS BROUGHT TO US, IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, THE NEAREST PET SHELTER IS IN STUART. YEAH THERE IS. AND WILLOUGHBY. YEAH SO IMAGINE TRYING TO DO THE TRACK DOWN THERE. I DON'T HAVE PETS BUT I KNOW PEOPLE THAT HAVE PETS THEY ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO THEIR PETS.
YEAH, BUT FROM WHAT MY MEMORY, I DID NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE THIS INVOLVED.
YEAH. SO THERE WAS NO UPDATE FROM STAFF. I'VE NOT RECEIVED ANY REPORTS ON GRANTS, NO REPORTS ON COUNTING. SO I'M LEFT LITERALLY IN THE DARK. BUT IT'S FINE, BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE AN UPDATE NOW IN REGARDS OF GRANTS, OUR NEXT MEETING, I WOULD LIKE AN UPDATE ON ACCOUNTING OUR NEXT MEETING. BECAUSE IF ONE COUNCIL MEMBER HAS ALL THIS INFORMATION, HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT MY COMMUNITY WHEN I DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT INFORMATION, SO IT'S LIKE ONE SIDED AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT, MAYOR, GIVES THOMAS AND I FEEL THE SAME WAY, YOU KNOW, BEING BASICALLY BLINDSIDED HERE, BUT WHEN THIS WAS PROPOSED TO US, IT WAS TO GET THE GRANT, BUT IT WAS NOT THAT WE WERE GOING TO
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SPEND MONEY ON IT, IN REGARDS OF IF EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO BE PAID THROUGH THE GRANT. SO AND I DID NOT REALIZE THAT IT WAS THAT ENTAILED HAVING TO ADOPT, AS YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, FEDERAL GUIDELINES. AND I AM VERY WARY OF THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE HOOKS IN GRANTS. AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS SOME OF THE HOOKS THAT I WOULD NOT NECESSARILY, BE VERY, APPROVING OF. SO, I THINK A GOOD REVIEW, GIVEN TO ALL OF US SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS, COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ WOULD LIKE AN AGENDA ITEM. ON GRANTS. BUT YOU ALSO SAID ON THE COUNTY. WHAT? FROM THE. YEAH. SO I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE WERE SPENDING $40,000 ON SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW.COUNCILMEMBER DID YOU SAY THE COUNTY OR ACCOUNTING? NO. ACCOUNTING. OH I'M SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD. OKAY, I HEARD COUNTY NO ACCOUNTING. OKAY. IF I MAY RESPOND, I AM VERY ENGAGED IN THIS VILLAGE EVERY SINGLE DAY I'M SPEAKING TO INVESTORS. I'M SPEAKING TO PEOPLE TO BRING THEM IN HERE TO GET THIS TAX BASE UP, TO GET HOUSES UP TO GET. I CAME TO A CODE ENFORCEMENT MEETING AND SAT IN ON A CODE ENFORCEMENT MEETING BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT PART OF IT. I'M VERY, VERY ENGAGED AND I LOOK FOR THINGS AND I FIND THINGS. AND NOBODY CAME TO ME WITH THIS. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION. AND IT WASN'T BY STAFF. SO SO THIS IS WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP RIGHT NOW. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS I'M WORKING ON IT THAT NOBODY KNOWS WHAT I'M DOING. AND WHEN THE TIME COMES, I WILL BRING IT UP TO COUNCIL AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. BUT PART OF MY DAY, EVERY DAY IS SPENT ON THIS VILLAGE. I PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO IT, SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO TAKE THAT AS A NEGATIVE OF, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT I'M DOING THINGS OUT OF PLACE I SHOULDN'T BE DOING. I'M DOING WHAT THE PEOPLE ELECTED ME TO DO AND WHAT TO DO, AND I ENJOY DOING WHAT I'M DOING. I ACTUALLY I ENJOY IT. I'VE SPENT MORE ON CIGARS AND DINNERS ON PROSPECTS THAN I MAKE HERE IN A YEAR, BECAUSE I ENJOY IT, BECAUSE WE'RE BUILDING SOMETHING AND WE'RE FIVE YEARS BEHIND THE CURVE. A LOT OF THE STUFF SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE ALREADY. AND WHEN WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE SPENT FOUR $40,000 OF TAXPAYERS MONEY TO DO A STUDY OR TO DO WHATEVER IT IS FOR A PRIVATE ENTITY, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG HERE, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG, AND I GET THAT WE'RE GOING TO HARDEN IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A DOG SHELTER IN THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS ALL MY LIFE. I NEVER ONCE WENT TO GOVERNMENT AND SAID, HEY, I NEED A GRANT.
AND IF YOU CAN ALL DO THAT FOR ME, I'M JUST SPENDING $200,000 ON MY OFFICE. I CAN GET A GRANT FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS DONE. YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY HAS CIVIC CENTERS. THEY OWN THEM. THEY OPERATE THEM THROUGH PARKS AND RECREATION. THEY GENERATE SOME REVENUE. AND IT'S SELF-SUPPORTING THING. BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY TAXES FOR THAT FOR THAT PROPERTY. WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING OUT OF IT. AND THEN WE GOT A MEETING FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THEY GOT TO PAY $300 TO USE A THING FOR LIKE THREE HOURS. COME ON, WHERE'S THE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY? WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE'RE TAKING STAFF AWAY FROM DOING THINGS THAT WE NEED DONE TO PUT THEM ON A PRIVATE PROJECT. I DON'T THINK SO. I DON'T THINK SO. AND YOU CAN CALL ME A BULLY. YOU CAN CALL ME WHATEVER YOU WANT. I DON'T CARE WHERE THAT VERY WELL. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. I'VE BEEN CALLED A BULLY FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. I TAKE IT AS A BADGE OF HONOR BECAUSE I'M A BULLY FOR THE PEOPLE OF INDIAN TOWN. SO THAT'S MY VOICE. AND IN TWO YEARS, WE'LL SEE IF I DID THE RIGHT THING OR NOT. IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT, THEY CAN SEND ME PACKING. THANK YOU.
MA'AM WELL, DISCUSSION ITEM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FILL OUT A FORM. SURE. I WOULD LIKE TO
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COMMEND COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO AND HIS PASSION. AND IN ATTENDING CODE ENFORCEMENT MEETINGS, WHICH I HAVE DONE SEVERAL SEVERAL TIMES, AND LET'S GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT. NOBODY KNOWS THAT WE SPENT $40,000 THAT HAD TO GO BEFORE THE COUNCIL, AND IT WAS APPROVED. AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER, HERNANDEZ SAID, IT WAS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WOULD COME EVENTUALLY, COME OUT OF THAT GRANT PROCESS. SO, LIKE I SAID, I APPRECIATE THE PASSION, AND WHAT WE ARE JUST SAYING IS. INFORMATION, BECAUSE IT SEEMED TO SAY SOUND LIKE INFORMATION IS COMING FROM STAFF. JUST MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE COUNCIL IS GETTING INFORMATION THAT IS COMING OUT.SO WHEN THESE THINGS DO COME UP, WE ARE ABLE TO SPEAK KNOWLEDGEABLY ABOUT THEM BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE WAY THAT IT SOUNDED, THE WAY THAT IT WAS, PRESENTED, AND I SEE THAT WE HAVE A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD FROM THE PUBLIC. YES, MADAM MAYOR, MISS LINDA NICCUM, MISS NICCUM. FOR THE RECORD, ARE YOU ON? BETTER, BETTER. OKAY. LINDA NICCUM, FOR THE RECORD, TO CLARIFY, JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS. AGAIN I DO BELIEVE THAT THE 40 GRAND SPENT FOR, DESIGN WORK IS PROBABLY BUILT INTO THE COST OF THAT 550 THAT WAS GRANTED. AND I THINK THERE WAS EVERY INTENTION OF THAT BEING REPAID. AND, NUMBER TWO IS FAR AS THE, THE HOME OWNERS GROUP PAYING A RENTAL FEE, THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THAT THE CIVIC CENTER EARNS ENOUGH MONEY TO KEEP THE DOORS OPEN TO PAY FOR THE ELECTRIC, TO PAY FOR THE COMMUNITY GARDENS, TO DO THE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY DO FOR THE WHOLE VILLAGE. GROUPS, EVEN THE VILLAGE PAID FOR USE OF THAT ROOM. THE COMPANIES THAT WERE IN THERE GIVING THAT PRESENTATION WERE ALL CORPORATE COMPANIES LOOKING TO PROVIDE MORTGAGE REAL ESTATE INFORMATION, SO IT THIS WAS NOT A HARDSHIP ON THEM TO HAVE SPACE. IF IT HAD BEEN THEN I THE VILLAGE COULD VERY WELL HAVE OFFERED THE USE OF THIS ROOM FOR THAT SAME PURPOSE AS FAR AS THE USE FOR THE CIVIC CENTER, ONCE IT IS RE CONSTRUCTED, IT IS NOT A PET SHELTER. IT WILL BE A PET FRIENDLY SHELTER. OWNERS WILL BE ABLE TO GO IN THERE WITH THEIR PETS DURING STORMS. IN INDIAN WOOD IN PARTICULAR, MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THERE WILL NOT GO TO A REGULAR SHELTER BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO LEAVE THEIR PETS AT HOME, THEY EITHER CAN'T GET THEM TO THE ANIMAL, THE HUMANE SOCIETY, OR UP TO THE ONE SHELTER IN STUART THAT WOULD ACCEPT THEM. SO THEY WOULD OPT TO PUT THEIR LIVES IN DANGER, STAY HOME WITH THEIR PETS. THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE ALL THAT RENOVATION WAS TO GIVE PEOPLE A PLACE TO TAKE THEIR PETS AND BE SAFE ALL AT ONE TIME. SO THIS IS FOR THE GOOD OF OUR RESIDENTS. WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO GOUGE ANYBODY. SEE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NOW ALSO, THE 10TH THING THAT IS, ISN'T THAT ON A AN AGENDA ITEM FURTHER ON, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A PART OF THE WHOLE I KNOW IT'S SEPARATE. I KNOW IT'S SEPARATE ON AN AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT. RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT I KNOW THAT IT'S ON THE HORIZON BECAUSE THAT'S ONE ISSUE THAT WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WILL BE COMING BACK TO US. IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS BEING WORKED ON. YEAH. AND YEAH. AND TO
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REALLY BOIL IT DOWN. YEAH. I THINK IT REALLY BOILS DOWN TO AS SIMPLY AS JUST CONFIRMING WITH OUR CURRENT NOW COUNTY BUILDING OFFICIAL WHO'S DOING THAT WITH US THAT, THEY ARE GOING TO BE AMENABLE TO NOT REQUIRING TENT PERMITS WITHIN CERTAIN THINGS, SO LONG AS THAT'S THE CASE.YEAH, WE'RE GOOD. WE'RE EASY BECAUSE WE KNOW WHERE THE CLEAR POLICY DIRECTION IS FROM THE COUNCIL. RIGHT RIGHT. SO, YEAH. SO THAT IS IT FOR YOU TO, TO GET THAT SORTED. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN, SPOKEN THAT, THAT SPECIFIC ITEM HAS BEEN SPOKEN TO SEVERAL TIMES. SO I KNEW IT WAS ON THE HORIZON. SO WAS THERE, WAS THERE A THIRD THING YOU SAID? THERE WAS A THIRD THING THERE WASN'T. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS. CODE, CODE CODE CODE ENFORCEMENT. CORRECT? YES, YES. SO. DID WE TALK ABOUT ADOPTING A CITATION? WE DID ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE TO REPORT ON THAT. AND YOU WERE GOING TO GET ONE FROM CITY OF STUART. YEAH. SO WE GET A COUPLE OF GREAT CODE ENFORCEMENT GUYS. I REALLY LIKE THEM IN THERE. THEY'RE READY TO GO OUT THERE AND DO THEIR JOB. I THINK WE JUST NEED TO, GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT. WE GET TO GIVE THEM SOME TOOLS. SO I MEAN, I'M DRIVING AROUND HERE ON THE WEEKEND, AND IT'S. IT'S JUST IT'S JUST EVERYWHERE. IT'S A FLEA MARKET ON EVERY CORNER. SO IF THEY COULD ISSUE A CITATION TO THE PERSON AND REMOVE THEM FROM THE PROPERTY AND TELL THEM NOT TO COME BACK, I THINK IT'LL HAVE GIVEN SOMEBODY A PIECE OF PAPER AND THEN NOTIFYING THE LANDOWNER THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, HIS PROPERTY OR HER PROPERTY IS BEING USED AS, AS A FAIRGROUND OR, YEAH. I MEAN, THEY WERE SELLING CLOTHES, LADDERS, LAWN MOWERS, WATERMELONS AND A FRUIT STAND AT THE OLD T-MOBILE BUILDING THIS WEEKEND. THIS PAST WEEKEND. AND IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU COME OVER THE BRIDGE AND WHAT DO YOU SEE? YOU KNOW, WE GOT TERRA LAGO COMING IN HERE AND THERE SPENDING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, PROBABLY ACTUALLY CLOSER TO HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT THEM COMING OVER THE BRIDGE AND LOOKING AT. YOU KNOW, TRASH EVERYWHERE. SO I THINK WE OUGHT TO ADOPT THAT CITATION. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GET IT FROM STUART AND MAYOR, I ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT TO UPDATE ON THAT, JUST VERY BRIEFLY, SO WHEN, WHEN THIS MATTER COME UP BEFORE WE'D MENTIONED THAT THE CITY OF STUART HAS A CODE ENFORCEMENT CITATION PROGRAM IN ADDITION TO, THE TRADITIONAL NOTICE OF VIOLATION, YOU KNOW, AND LEANS AGAINST PROPERTY AND SO ON, CHLOE, WITH MY OFFICE, ONE OF MY ATTORNEYS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH FOLKS, JUST VERY RECENTLY AT THE CITY OF STUART IN THEIR CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT CONCERNING THEIR CITATION PROGRAM. WE'VE GOT BOTH THEIR ORDINANCE, OF COURSE, WHICH IS ON MUNICODE, BUT ALSO AN EXAMPLE OF THEIR CITATION.
AND THEY'VE TALKED TO THEM AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, HOW IT WORKS OUT. THEY'VE SAID THAT OVER THERE IN STUART, IT GENERALLY WORKS OUT VERY WELL AS AN ADDITIONAL TOOL. BASICALLY AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO AS AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, HAND THEM A PIECE OF PAPER WHILE ORDER THEM, YOU GOT TO STOP. AND THAT AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, THEY SAID IT TENDS TO WORK PRETTY WELL OVER THERE IN STUART, SO THAT WAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE PRACTICAL PIECES. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WASN'T JUST KIND OF A PAPER TIGER SITTING THERE. THAT AT LEAST WORKS WELL NEARBY, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT DOES TO A GOOD DEGREE. SO OUR OFFICE IS GOING TO BE PUTTING TOGETHER AN ORDINANCE INTEGRATING, I ALREADY HAVE CHLOE WORKING ON IT, INTEGRATING IN, CITATION PROGRAM, ADDING ON TO OUR REGULAR CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS AND ANY SORT OF APPEALS FROM A CITATION OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT WOULD ALL GO TO THE MAGISTRATE, WHICH IS VERY EASILY ADMINISTRATIVE AS OPPOSED TO GOING TO COUNTY COURT, WHICH I CAN TELL YOU IS A IS A BIG WASTE OF TIME AND EVERYTHING. SO WE ARE WORKING THAT, WORKING ON THAT IN OUR OFFICE AND WE ANTICIPATE HAVING IT COME BACK TO YOU ALL IN THE NEAR FUTURE. OKAY. SO THE 10TH THING AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT WE HAVE DISCUSSED HERE, THAT IS ON THE HORIZON, YOU ARE WORKING ON THAT. SO THAT WILL BE COMING BACK. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. GOOD. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ, WHO WAS FIRST SURA FERNANDEZ AND COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE IN REGARDS OF THIS? IS THIS ON PERSONAL PROPERTY OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY?
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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, SO THE CITATION. YEAH, IT WOULD BE APPLICABLE FOR BOTH. IT WOULD BE APPLICABLE ANYWHERE WHERE THERE'S A CODE VIOLATION AND THEN WOULD THIS BE BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE SEEN WHERE CODE VIOLATIONS COME IN. THEY FIX IT UP AND THEN ONCE THE CODE ENFORCER YOU KNOW, OKAY, HE HE OR SHE FIXED IT, THEY'LL GO BACK TO THEIR, THEIR WHAT THEY WERE DOING PREVIOUSLY AND THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER ONE OF THE, THE BENEFITS OF A CITATION IN IN THIS INSTANCE, IF YOU HAVE A VIOLATOR REPEAT VIOLATOR WHAT HAVE YOU WHO'S PLAYING THE CAT AND MOUSE GAME. THEY COME WITH A, YOU KNOW, A USUALLY A COURTESY WARNING FIRST BEFORE THEY EVEN START ANYTHING FORMAL, BUT LET'S SAY IT EVEN GETS TO A FORMAL NOTICE OF VIOLATION.THERE'S VIOLATION THERE. AND THEN BEFORE IT GOES TO THE MAGISTRATE OR WHATEVER, THEY CLEAN IT UP, OR THEY STOP DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING OR WHAT HAVE YOU, AND THEN IT'S IN COMPLIANCE. AND SO IT ALL STOPS, AND THEN THEY GO BACK TO THEIR OLD WAYS AGAIN, A CITATION IS A WAY TO SAY, LOOK, YOU'RE DOING IT. YOU'RE DOING IT RIGHT NOW, OBVIOUSLY, RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. $25 CITATION, $50 CITATION. DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING, AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE A TOOL. IT'S GOING TO BE A TOOL AMONG MANY TOOLS YOU'RE PUTTING IN THE HANDS OF YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE TO EXERCISE THEIR JUDGMENT IN UTILIZING IT, AND THAT JUDGMENT IS GOING TO BE GUIDED, YOU KNOW, FIRST BY THEIR BOSS IN HOW TO IMPLEMENT IT. AND THEN ULTIMATELY, THAT POLICY IS GOING TO BE FURTHER GUIDED BY, YOU KNOW, THE POLICY DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL. SO IT WOULD BE A, IT IS A TOOL TO GET AROUND FOLKS WHO WOULD PLAY CAT AND MOUSE GAMES. SO IT WOULD BE PROGRESSIVE. YOU COULD START AND THEN IT WOULD JUST BECAUSE GENERALLY. YEAH, GENERALLY, GENERALLY, GENERALLY, ALL CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS THAT THAT'S THAT'S GENERAL DIRECTION IS ANYTHING WOULD BE PROGRESSIVE. I WOULD JUST NOTE, YOU KNOW, FIRST TIME OUT WHERE IT'S SOMEBODY MAY NOT KNOW SOMETHING'S A PROBLEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I'D PROBABLY NOT RECOMMEND A CITATION RIGHT ON THE FIRST INSTANCE. BUT IF SOMEBODY IS CLEARLY PLAYING GAMES, THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IT, ETC. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THAT TOOL. OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE THE CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW. THE PERSON THE VIOLATOR CLEANS UP COME COMES MAGISTRATE, THEY'RE CLEARED OFF AND THEN THEY GO BACK TO THEIR OLD WAYS. AND IT'S LIKE, WHAT DID THE VILLAGE DO? NOTHING AND THAT'S THE HUGE COMPLAINT I ALWAYS GET. WHAT IS THE VILLAGE DOING? IF THEY FIXED IT AND THEY WENT BACK TO THEIR WAYS. SO. AND THERE ARE THERE ARE TIMES AND IF WE, IF WE GET TO INSTANCES WHERE WE'VE GOT TO DO THIS OR HAVE ONES WE NEED TO DO IN THE FUTURE, WE CAN TALK WITH WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF, THERE ARE INSTANCES SOMETIMES WHERE UNDER THE STATUTE YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY WHO'S REPEATEDLY DOING THAT. THEY'RE THEY'RE ARE GOING INTO VIOLATION INTENTIONALLY. LET'S SAY, AND THEN THEY'RE CLEANING IT UP RIGHT BEFORE GOING TO THE MAGISTRATE OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
THERE'S ACTUALLY AN OPPORTUNITY UNDER THE STATUTE WHERE YOU CAN STILL GO TO THE MAGISTRATE TO HAVE HAVE THE MAGISTRATE FIND. YES, THEY DID BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE, BUT IT WAS OUT OF COMPLIANCE. THEREFORE, THE NEXT TIME THEY COME, THEY'RE GOING TO BE A REPEAT VIOLATOR AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO DOUBLE THE FINES. SO THESE ARE THESE ARE TOOLS THAT AGAIN, EXIST NOW IN THAT INSTANCE. BUT IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM OR A NEED FOR THEM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF TO SEE WHETHER THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
AND AGAIN, JUST TO MAKE CLEAR, THE CITATION WON'T BE TO THE OWNER BECAUSE MOST, MOST OF THE TIMES IT'S NOT EVEN THE OWNER. YOU KNOW, THE OWNER HAS NO IDEA. AND IT'S WHOEVER'S LIVING THERE, WHOEVER'S DOING IT THAT IS THAT IS ONE OF THE BENEFITS, IF YOU WILL, OF A CITATION WOULD BE TO THE INDIVIDUAL DOING IT AS OPPOSED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. AND AGAIN, THIS COMES DOWN TO THE JUDGMENT THAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO EXERCISE TO DETERMINE ON, WHETHER THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE TO BE HITTING WITH IT IS JUST, YOU KNOW, THE INDIVIDUAL DOING IT WITH THE CITATION OR THE PROPERTY OWNER IS SUFFERING IT, EVEN IF THEY DON'T EXPRESSLY PERMIT IT. AND AT BARE MINIMUM, WHEN YOU'VE GOT REPEAT PROBLEMS ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY, AS COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO SAID, IT'S REALLY GOOD IDEA FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT TO ADVISE THE PROPERTY OWNER IN WRITING, HEY, WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS ON YOUR PROPERTY OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THIS AND THAT HAPPENING. YOU NEED TO MAKE IT STOP. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
YES, VICE MAYOR PEREZ, SO I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE FOOD
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VENDORS, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT HAPPENING. A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE, THAT'S WHAT THEY RELY ON INCOME. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S THE HEALTH, FOOD SAFETY, ALL OF THAT, I HAD ONE RESIDENT COME UP TO ME. I GUESS SHE USED ALREADY GOT A NOTICE TO APPEAR, BUT I THINK AS AS A VILLAGE, I THINK WE NEED TO EDUCATE OUR RESIDENTS AND LET THEM KNOW, HEY , YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THIS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE HEALTH VIOLATIONS INSTEAD OF JUST NOTICE OF TO APPEAR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO EDUCATE THEM TO THEM, LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO SET UP, WE'RE GOING TO SELL FOOD, VEGGIES, FLEA MARKET. SOME OF THEM DO RELY ON THAT AS INCOME. OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE NOW YOU'RE GOING TO SCARE THEM. NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM A NOTICE TO APPEAR. YEAH I THINK WE NEED WE NEED TO EDUCATE OUR RESIDENTS AND YOU KNOW, AND TEACH THEM, OKAY. IF YOU WANT TO DO THIS, THIS IS X, Y AND Z. THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO SET UP TO BE ABLE TO SELL FOOD WITHIN THE VILLAGE BOUNDARIES. NOW IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE CITATION PROCESS WOULD DO THAT.YOU START OUT AT ZERO. THIS IS THE CITATION YOU DO NOT, YOU KNOW, EDUCATE. THIS IS EDUCATION . DO NOT. WE'RE NOT CHARGING YOU ANYTHING. HOWEVER, THIS IS WHAT THE LAW IS. THIS IS WHAT YOU DO.
THIS IS WHAT YOU DON'T DO THAT THAT WOULD BE TYPICAL. TYPICAL CODE ENFORCEMENT PRACTICE AND PROCEDURE IN THIS INSTANCE. ARE YOU SAYING THERE WAS THERE WAS NEVER A RECORDING OR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO I GUESS ROBERT WENT AFTER HER. I GUESS SHE SHE GOT CAUGHT TWO DAYS AGO AND ROBERT SEEN HER TODAY AROUND THAT AREA WHERE ALL THE LADIES COME UP AND GAVE HER A NOTICE TO APPEAR. SO SHE CALLS ME, I CALL ROBERT, I SAID, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON? SHE'S A REPEATED OFFENDER. I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS TWO STORIES TO TELL. SO ACCORDING TO ROBERT, THERE'S PICTURES. SHE SAYS, NO, WHATEVER, BUT I JUST FEEL THAT WE NEED TO EDUCATE, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE GOT TO PUT UP SIGNS AT VILLAGE HALL IN THE NEWSLETTER AT THE PARKS, IT'S JUST THAT THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OKAY TO DO IT BECAUSE THERE'S HEALTH VIOLATION THAT ENTAILS, LIKE THE SIERRAS, WHICH IS THE LADIES THAT SELL, THEY DROP OFF FOOD AT HOUSE. ARE WE GOING TO GO AFTER THEM TOO? YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS ALWAYS THEY'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE I WAS A LITTLE KID. THAT'S HOW THEY MAKE MONEY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOME OF THE LADIES THAT DON'T WORK LIKE I ALWAYS SAW THEM. I ALWAYS KID AROUND WITH THEM. I SAID, IF I ONLY KNEW HOW TO COOK, I'LL BE YOUR COMPETITION. BUT I DON'T. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO EDUCATE INSTEAD OF LIKE, OKAY, HERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A NOTICE TO APPEAR. YOU KNOW, SOME MIGHT UNDERSTAND, SOME MIGHT NOT, SOME MIGHT NOT. LIKE THE ONE LADY SAID, I DON'T CARE. I'M GONNA KEEP SELLING. I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO FIND SOMETHING TO EDUCATE, POST THAT SO THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. BECAUSE NOW WE'RE LIKE, OH, LOOK AT CODE ENFORCEMENT IS COMING. WHAT IS VILLAGE COUNCIL DOING NOW? YEAH. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THEY'D HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM PRIOR TO SO. AND LET ME EXPRESS TO THIS COUNCIL AS FAR AS DEALING WITH STAFF, WE DEAL WITH OUR MANAGER, AND OUR MANAGER IS THE ONE THAT DEALS WITH WITH STAFF TO, TO CONTACT THEM DIRECTLY. I THINK GOES AGAINST OUR CHARTER. SO I DO NOT THINK THAT THAT AM I DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT GIVING DIRECTION TO STAFF IN PARTICULAR? OKAY WOULD BE CONTRARY TO THE CHARTER. OKAY. WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THAT. AND YOU. OKAY. I KNOW LIKE I KNOW I'M JUST SAYING IT WAS ME BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD STARTED. I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL. THE. THIS IS THE PROBLEM, OKAY? THIS IS THE PROBLEM. PEOPLE CALL US AND. OH, I GOT A TICKET FOR THIS. I GOT A TICKET FOR THAT. LISTEN, YOU KNOW THESE GUYS, WE GOT TO STAND BEHIND THEM, WE GOT TO SUPPORT THEM, AND WE GOT TO LET THEM DO THEIR JOB. WE NEED TO CLEAN IT UP. THEY'VE BEEN COOKING IN THIS TOWN FOR YEARS.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 30 PLUS YEARS. FOR 30 YEARS. I'VE HEARD IT FROM FROM BUSINESSES. HEY, WE GOT PEOPLE COOKING IN HOUSES AND THEY'RE TAKING OUR BUSINESS AWAY FROM THEM. IS IT FAIR? IS IT FAIR TO THE GUY THAT'S PAYING $4,000 A MONTH RENT TO HAVE A RESTAURANT, TO HAVE TO COMPETE WITH SOMEBODY THAT'S SELLING STUFF ON A STREET CORNER THAT YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU'RE EATING. YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WAS MADE, WHAT KIND OF CONDITIONS IT WAS IN. THEY IT'S JUST WE CAN'T ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. WE HAVE TO STOP IT. WE'RE A REAL GOVERNMENT NOW. WE GOT TO ACT LIKE IT. AND WE GOT TO LET THESE PEOPLE DO THEIR JOB . IF SOMEBODY CAME UP TO ME
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WOULD SAY, OH, CODE ENFORCEMENT, I'D TELL THEM, DON'T EVEN TELL ME ABOUT IT. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW, I DON'T CARE, IT'S YOUR PROBLEM BECAUSE WE'RE GIVING THEM A MISSION. WE'RE GIVING THEM A JOB. WE'RE PAYING THEM A SALARY. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. WE NEED TO SUPPORT THEM.THAT'S IT. END OF STORY. AND I AGREE IN THEORY WITH COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO. HOWEVER, WHEN I'VE HAD PEOPLE COME TO ME AND SAY, YOU KNOW, CODE ENFORCEMENT, THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER, I'VE TOLD THEM, OKAY, WELL, LET'S LOOK AT IT BECAUSE I REPRESENT THEM AND THEY MAY NOT UNDERSTAND . SO I EXPRESSED TO THEM, YOU HAVE TO WORK WITHIN THE SYSTEM. AND THAT'S A LOT OF THE TIMES, THE REASON THAT I SHOW UP AT THOSE CODE ENFORCEMENT MEETINGS TO, TO WATCH AND TO SEE AND HOW THEY ARE DEALT WITH AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE UNDERSTOOD, FINDING WHAT THE ISSUES ARE. SO IT'S NOT JUST THEIR PROBLEM. IT IS MY PROBLEM TOO, BECAUSE IT IS EDUCATION AND IT'S HELP THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS BECAUSE WHAT I EXPRESSED TO THEM IS YES, WE'RE GOVERNMENT NOW. YES WE HAVE A PROCESS. LET'S LOOK AND SEE WHAT IT IS. SO WE CAN HELP YOU THROUGH IT. SO THAT'S WHAT I FEEL LIKE MY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO THE PUBLIC. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ? I WAS JUST TRYING TO. I'M CONFUSED, BUT I'LL JUST WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT TIME. I WILL PROBABLY TALK TO STAFF IN REGARDS OF IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. SO
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MOVING RIGHT ALONG. DO WE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? I DO, YES MA'AM. THE NEXT FOOD DRIVE IS ON JUNE 13TH 18TH AT 8 A.M. WE'RE ALWAYS IN NEED OF VOLUNTEERS, SO LET US KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW ANY HIGH SCHOOLERS WHO NEED VOLUNTEER HOURS. SEND THEM OUR WAY. WHERE IS IT? SAME LOCATION ON THE CORNER OF MLK AND FARMS ROAD IN BUENA PARK. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU AND OUR NEXT REGULAR[NEXT REGULAR MEETING (ANNOUNCE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION)]
MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR. BOY, A LOT HAPPENED IN THAT DAY. OKAY, SO JUNE THE 13TH, WE'LL BE BACK HERE AT 6:30 P.M, UNTIL THEN, YOU EVERYBODY HAVE A VERY, THOUGHTFUL, HAVE A VERY GRATEFUL AND HAVE A SAFE MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND. AND WITH THAT, WE STAY ADJOURNED. AND I DO NEED A LIST OF THOSE THAT WILL BE ATTENDING THE JOINT MEETING ON THE 13TH. YEAH, THERE IS A LOT HAPPENING ON THE 13TH, ISN'T THERE? YOU'LL BE OUT OF T