Interlocal Agreement Between Martin County and the Village of Indiantown for the Temporary Provision of Building Official, Inspection and Plan Review Services

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UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. YES, MA'AM. UM THIS ITEM IS AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN MARTIN COUNTY AND THE VILLAGE OF NEWTOWN FOR THE TEMPORARY PROVISION OF A BUILDING OFFICIAL INSPECTION AND PLAN REVIEW SERVICES. UH, WE WERE THE VILLAGE WAS CONTRACTING THIS SERVICE OUT WITH ANOTHER COMPANY, WHICH, UH, THE CONTRACT EXPIRED AS OF FEBRUARY THIS YEAR. AND THEY PUT US ON NOTICE THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE RENEWING THAT CONTRACT. SO I REACHED OUT TO MARTIN COUNTY BECAUSE I KNEW THAT THEY WERE PROVIDING THESE

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SERVICES, UH, TO SEWELL'S POINT, AND SOMETIMES JUPITER IS OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP US UNTIL WE COULD GET A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION. AND SO THEY AGREED. THE COMMISSION AGREED. BUT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS IN OUR LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES. AND MR VOS HAS , UH, DRAFTED THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, SO WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. WE'VE GOT THE MONEY BUDGETED, AND, UM IT'LL HELP US IN THE INTERIM UNTIL WE DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. AS FAR AS THE PERMANENT BUILDING OFFICIAL ONCE WE GET REALLY BUSY, WE'RE GONNA NEED THAT. THIS IS MORE PART TIME. OK AND REPLACING. WHAT WE HAD, UH PAYING THE SAME PRICE. IS IT BUDGET? OR IS IT CHEAPER? MORE EXPENSIVE? IT'S GONNA END UP BEING CHEAPER BECAUSE THE, UH, THE OTHER COMPANY THAT WE WERE USING THAT THEY VARIED AND THEY WE ONLY HAD THEM LIKE ALMOST LIKE FOUR HOURS. TWICE A WEEK. AND THIS WE'RE GETTING ON DEMAND. OK SO WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE MORE MORE TIME. SO WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH WHAT WE ARE GETTING, AND IT'S GONNA BE MORE ECONOMICAL. YES, MA'AM. THAT SOUNDS ENCOURAGING. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. YES I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS FIRST. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN GET THAT EMAIL WITH THE PREVIOUS CONTRACTORS SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T WANNA RENEW UM, THE CONTRACT. AND THE REASONING BEHIND OF IT. UM AND THEN WHO WAS OUR PREVIOUS CONTRACT WITH IT WAS THROUGH WITH A COMPANY CALLED SAFE BUILD THAT WAS A CONTRACTOR THROUGH GIORDANO AND ASSOCIATES, WHICH WAS THE ONE OF THE FIRMS THAT UH, DID SOME PLANNING PROVIDED SOME PLANNING? UH, SERVICES AS WELL. OK, GOT IT. OK, THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER TO FOLLOW. IS THERE A SECOND? SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR PEREZ. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION. NO MADA MAYOR ALL IN FAVOR. NO. THEN ALL AGAINST NO. OK? SO PAST 31. OK? FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES.

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Discussion on Indiantown Trust Fund

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DISCUSSION ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER FIVE. YES SO THAT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT, UM, I BRING FORWARD THE COUNCIL HAD TALKED ABOUT HAVING A CONVERSATION ON THE INDIAN TOWN TRUST FUND. UH, WE DID SOLICIT FOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED. TO SIT ON THAT COMMITTEE OF THE UM INDIAN TOWN COMMUNITY TRUST FUND. AND WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE PERSON THAT WAS INTERESTED. IT WAS MISS LINDA NUM, SO IT'S GREAT THAT SHE'S HERE TONIGHT. BUT I IN IN THINKING THIS THROUGH, UM I WAS GONNA WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING TO THE COUNCIL. IS THAT, UM WHAT I THINK WE COULD DO IF YOU WANTED TO WAS THAT WE COULD DO THIS IN HOUSE. UM WE WOULD PUT TOGETHER A SMALL TEAM WITH MRS NYM, UH, MYSELF. I SAT ON THE UNITED WAY COMMUNITY IMPACT SELECTION TEAM. I'VE DONE THOSE INTERVIEWS WITH THESE PROGRAMS BEFORE WE COULD SOLICIT THE APPLICATIONS MYSELF. MISS MCBRIDE AND I BRING IN THIS REZO AND MISS NIKE. WE COULD BRING OUR HEADS TOGETHER, GO THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS AND BRING THE RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO THE COUNCIL. I THINK JUST AS CONVENIENTLY AS TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER ANOTHER COMMITTEE WITHOUT PEOPLE WANTING TO VOLUNTEER FOR THAT. IF THE COUNCIL'S AMENABLE TO THAT BECAUSE IT'S GOT TO COME BACK TO YOU ANYWAY. RIGHT? RIGHT. OK, THANK YOU. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER? HER M? UH, HERNANDEZ. YES AND I THINK THE STAFF FOR THE EFFORT BY REALLY THINK THAT, UM WE SHOULD PROBABLY EXTEND IT FOR ANOTHER WHAT? TWO WEEKS UNTIL OR WEEK. UM, IN REGARDS OF UM, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE ON THIS. UM BECAUSE THIS IS FOR THE RESIDENTS AND SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS SAID NO, UM, THAT WAS AVAILABLE. IT'S MIDDLE OF BUSY SEASON AND SO A LOT OF PEOPLE PROBABLY NOT WEREN'T AWARE OF THIS AS I WASN'T AWARE OF IT. UM IT PROBABLY WAS ADVERTISED. I DON'T KNOW HOW. UM BUT I THINK PROMOTING COMMUNICATION IS KEY. I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THIS, UM TO

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GET THINGS DONE, AND I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WILLING TO DO THIS, UM GIVE THEIR TIME THAT ARE RETIRED IN OUR COMMUNITY. THAT WOULD WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS. UM SO PROBABLY EXTENDING IT ONE MORE WEEK WOULDN'T HURT FOR OTHER VOLUNTEERS TO YOU KNOW THAT AREN'T INTERESTED IN DOING THIS, UM SO I. I WOULD PREFER IT TO BE A RESIDENT. UM A RESIDENT COMMITTEE I. I THINK THE STAFF OF THE STAFF ALREADY HAS TOO MUCH ON THEIR PLATES TO HAVE AS THEY THEY ALWAYS SAY. UM AND HAVING THEN DO THE WHOLE PROCESS . YOU KNOW IF WE CAN GET THE VOLUNTEERS TO DO IT AND HAVE JUST ONE STAFF MEMBER, HELPING THEM THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS WOULD BE IDEAL, BUT NOT HAVING THE VILLAGE MANAGER THAT HAS OTHER THINGS TO FRY, THEN SITTING IN THIS COMMITTEE WHEN SHE HAS BIGGER THINGS TO DO, UM, SO I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD READ, ADVERTISE. KEEP MS LINDA AND I COME BECAUSE YOU KNOW, SHE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS COME UP, BUT READ, ADVERTISE WHERE WE CAN GET MORE VOLUNTEERS. PEOPLE MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THIS GOING ON. SO I REALLY THINK THAT THIS COUNCIL IT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL, UM, FOR THIS COUNCIL TO ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT ADVERTISE. IT WOULDN'T HURT FOR A WEEK. SO THANK YOU. A VICE MAYOR FOR U. SO HOW WAS THIS DONE THE LAST TIME, YOU KNOW ME BEING NEW. I HAD HAD IT. HOW DID IT WORK? BECAUSE I DO AGREE WITH COUNCIL WOMAN, HERNANDEZ I MEAN, I DID, I WOULD WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE MORE INTEREST IN VOLUNTEERS. BUT IS THERE A WAY WE CAN PUT IT ON THE YEAH, THE SIGNAGE RIGHT THERE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH. I MEAN, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, WANT MORE RESIDENTS AT THE LIBRARY AT THE LIBRARY. YEAH, WE CAN. PLEASE. YOU'RE YOU'RE IN CHARGE? OH, YEAH. OK WELL, A REARE WE DONE WITH OUR YES, I WAS JUST I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WAS DONE THE LAST TIME, OK, MISS, WOULD YOU WOULD YOU LIKE TO AND TO PUT TWO CENTS I WELL. THE UH, THE LAST, UH, COMMITTEE THAT WAS WAS COLLECTED. UM, IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS IT'S BEEN FOR AT LEAST FOUR YEARS. AND IT WAS DONE. WE HAD, UM I BELIEVE FOUR.

RESIDENTS. WE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM COGEN AND, UM HOWARD BROWN SAID IN AT THAT POINT, HE ON ON IT AT THE AT THE VERY BEGINNING. I BELIEVE ANTHONY DOWLING, IT WAS COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE ON THAT. PEOPLE VOLUNTEERED FOR IT. THE WHOLE PROCESS IS NOT GRUELING. UM INITIALLY GETTING PEOPLE TO SIT ON THE COMMITTEE AND ADVERTISE OUT TO OUR ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE MONEY AVAILABLE TO SHARE. FOR THEIR PROJECTS AND GO ALONG THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE PRESENTED IN THE UM, IN THE AGREEMENT WITH COGEN. UH MOST OF THE EXISTING THE OLDER EXISTING ORGANIZATIONS ALREADY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO DO WITH THE MONEY WHAT THEY CANNOT DO WITH THE MONEY. APPLICATIONS WERE, UH, REQUESTED TO BE TURNED BACK IN IN I WOULD SAY 4 TO 6 WEEKS. WE DIDN'T EXTEND THAT A WHOLE LONG PERIOD OF TIME. EVERYBODY TOOK COPIES OF THESE. UH, APPLICATIONS HOME AND REVIEWED THEM INDIVIDUALLY. THEN WE CAME BACK FOR ANOTHER MEETING. UM AND GAVE THE PROS AND CONS OR OPINIONS ON WHAT THE WHAT THE APPLICANTS WERE WERE.

WANTED TO DO AND HOW MUCH MONEY THEY WERE REQUESTING. UM DECISION WAS MADE OUR OUR UH, RECOMMENDATIONS WERE MADE AND BROUGHT TO COUNCIL. WE HAD A TOTAL OF MAYBE THREE MEETINGS.

PRIOR TO THIS. I MEAN, UH, FOR THE COMMITTEE. THERE'S JUST NOT A BIG BIG DEAL. IT TAKES MORE TIME TO LOOK OVER THE APPLICATIONS AT HOME. AND SEE WHAT THESE PROJECTS ARE AND ARE

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THEY WORTHY OF AS DIRECTING. THE MONEY TO THOSE PROJECTS. THERE ARE THERE ARE THINGS IN THE AGREEMENT. THAT DON'T NECESSARILY, UH, REFLECT. HOW THAT MONEY WAS DISTRIBUTED PRIOR. UM AT SOME POINT, SOMEBODY SAID IT HAD TO BE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. THAT'S NOT THE WAY THE AGREEMENT IS WRITTEN UP. UH, SOMEBODY SAID IT HAD TO BE. INDIAN TOWN BUSINESSES. APPLYING. THE AGREEMENT SAYS. THE PROJECT HAS TO BE FOR THE BENEFIT OF INDIAN TOWN. PERIOD. UH, SO THOSE ARE LITTLE NUTS AND BOLTS THAT NEED TO BE DE RUSTED AND FIGURED OUT.

BUT IT DOES NOT A TIME CONSUMING THING. IT'S BASICALLY JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT WE CONVEYED TO THE APPLICANTS WHAT'S EXPECTED OF THEM. AS FAR AS REPORTING. AND GETTING EVERYTHING BACK TO US IN A TIMELY FASHION IN ORDER TO GET THE FUNDS THAT THAT WE'RE PROMISED. WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE OUT ALL OF THE FUNDS AT ONE TIME , THE AGREEMENT SAYS. WE CAN CARRY OVER FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT. BUT WE'VE GOT LIMITED TIME BEFORE THIS WHOLE TRUST FUND THING GOES AWAY. UH AND THEN SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DECIDED. COUNSEL WISE AS TO HOW WE HANDLE THAT. GOING DOWN THE ROAD. OH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I CAN ANSWER AS FAR AS THE WHOLE PROCESS? SO YOU'RE NOT? YOU'RE NOT EXPECTING LIKE MONTHLY COMMITMENTS. YOU KNOW, CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA GO OUT NOW AFTER COUNCIL MEETING I'M LIKE, OK, I HAVE TWO PEOPLE IN MIND LIKE I'M GONNA TELL HIM. HEY. CAN YOU COMMIT, UH TO THIS TO MY WAY OF THINKING IF WE WERE TO UH, HAVE AN INITIAL MEETING SEND OUT THE APPLICATIONS. SEND IT OUT THAT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPLICANTS TO COME IN, UH, OR TO FILL OUT APPLICATIONS FOR THIS MONEY. UM THAT WOULD TRIGGER ANOTHER MEETING. UM IF I DECISION IS MADE WITHIN THE NEXT FOUR WEEKS AFTER REVIEWING THE APPLICATIONS OUR JOB IS DONE. UH SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS LIKE THREE MEETINGS 12 TO GET IT OUT THERE. THEN YOU WAIT UNTIL YOU THEY ALL GET IN ONCE THEY ALL GET IN. YOU HAVE ANOTHER MEETING AND YOU HAVE THOSE GATHERED AND YOU'RE ABLE TO DISPERSE THAT INFORMATION AND GIVE TIME EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT THEM. AND THEN THE THIRD MEETING WHEN YOU COME TOGETHER AND YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION AND YOU WARD RIGHT AND WE AWARD WE YOU GUYS MAKE THE DECISION. UH BUT I THINK IT THE INITIAL MEETING. UH LITTLE DETAILS HAVE TO BE IRONED OUT. UH, AS TO WHICH WAY WE'RE GOING.

DO WE GO BY WAY OF THE AGREEMENT? DO WE GO BY HISTORICALLY WHAT WAS DONE? WITH WITH THE COMMITTEE. WE NEED THOSE THINGS. IT'S VERY CLEAR IN THE PRIOR TRUST AGREEMENT THAT THE VILLAGE UM WELL, NOW, HOW LONG? UH, HOW? HOW LONG WOULD THAT PROCESS BE? TO PUT THAT, UH, TO PUT THAT TO WAITING FOR? WHAT DID YOU SAY 4 TO 6 WEEKS FOR PEOPLE TO GET THOSE IN? I THINK SO. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT IF YOU'RE GOING AFTER AN ORGANIZATION LIKE UH UH, 4H.

THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH A PROJECT THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE FUNDED. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF FUNDS THEY'RE GOING TO NEED. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO MENTALLY BUILD THIS PROJECT. IN ORDER TO KNOW HOW MUCH TO ASK FOR. UM BEGINNING TO END YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE, THREE MONTHS. I, I THINK, TOPS. UH, YOU KNOW, I IT'S NOT A LONG TERM , THERE HAS TO BE DECISION MADE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT FUNDS ARE GIVEN OUT. BASED ON THE PLANS.

OR IS THIS A REIMBURSABLE THING? WHICH THAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR, THE PROJECT HAD TO BE PAID FOR AND TURNED IN IN ORDER TO GET REIMBURSED BY THE PRIZE MONEY. UM UH, THAT ISN'T THE WAY IT'S SPELLED OUT IN THERE, BUT UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAD DONE BEEN DONE HISTORICALLY, AND I THINK, MOVING FORWARD. I THINK IT SPELLED OUT IN THERE THAT THERE HAS TO BE FOLLOW UP REPORTS GIVEN WHICH THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED, SO THAT MOVING FORWARD I THINK THAT IS A PART OF THE

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PROCESS AND NEED THEY RECIPIENTS NEED TO BE VERY WELL AWARE THAT THEY HAVE, UM THAT IF THEY DO NOT DO THAT, THEN THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE MONEY WILL BE REQUIRED BACK IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA FOLLOW THE FULL TERMS, WELL, WE HAVE TO. IT'S BASICALLY GOING TO BE A CONTRACT. YOU KNOW , IF YOU YOU WANT OUR FUNDS, THEN THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO . AND UH AND WE DO THE FOLLOW UP . THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND. ALSO, OK? INITIALLY YEAH. UH, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THREE MEETINGS THREE MONTHS ON, THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE SUFFICIENT. UNTIL THE NEXT YEAR ROLLS AROUND AND HOPEFULLY GETS STARTED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER. YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE YOUR THE TIMETABLE A LITTLE BIT BETTER, OK? OKAY YES, MISS? UH, I'M IN COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. I HAD A QUESTION.

HOW? HOW DOES THE PUBLIC IS THERE AN APPLICATION SOMEWHERE? FOR THE COMMITTEE OR FOR THE COMMITTEE. SO THERE'S AN APPLICATION IT WAS LEGALLY ADVERTISED IN THE PAPER. UM POSTING OF IT IS IN THE LOBBY. IT WAS POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE AND OUR SOCIAL MEDIA SITES. AND WE RECEIVED HER APPLICATION. WHEN SHE SAW ME ADVERTISING IT WAS MARCH 7TH. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WHO DID IT? YES THANK YOU, I. I JUST ACCESS IT IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH. YEP.

THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE SURE TO VICE MAYOR PEREZ. YOU KNOW, ONCE ONCE HER FINGERS CROSSED, WE DO GET MORE VOLUNTEERS. COULD WE HAVE A COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE? BE PART OF IT, OR IS IT YOU KNOW , AS AS PART OF THE GUIDELINES? YES AND I THINK PROBABLY CHAIR THAT MEETING IS WHAT IT WAS PRIOR TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER. THAT IS IN THE DOCUMENTATION I WAS ABLE TO COME ACROSS WAS, UH, COUNCIL MEN GOTTEN STONE? UM BUT AS MISS NYUM INDICATED THAT IT WAS YEARS, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS SINCE THEY AND THEY'VE MET IN THE LAST TIME I PUT AN AGENDA ITEM TOGETHER. THERE WAS, UH, ROUGHLY $52,000 IN THERE. MR FLORIO HAS INDICATED THAT HAS CONTINUED TO INCREASE HOW MUCH 52,000 UH, 5,252,000, BUT I'M JUST MAKING SURE YOU THINK IT'S MORE THAN THAT NOW, SO IT'S PROBABLY ALMOST 70. OKAY NOW, LEAVING IT ALONE. THAT'S ENCOURAGING. IT'S GROWING OK. SO WHEN IS THE DEADLINE OR HOW DOES IT NORMALLY WORK? YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, OK, SO IT'S YEAR TO YEAR OR HOW IS IT SUPPOSED TO? YES THE AGREEMENT THAT THE VILLAGE UH, ACQUIRED THROUGH THAT WAS INITIALLY ESTABLISHED BACK IN, 1991 SAYS THAT ANNUALLY THESE FUNDS WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED AND ANY FUNDS THAT WERE NOT ALLOCATED IN THAT YEAR WOULD GO INTO THE ABILITY TO BE UH, IT ROLLS OVER AND TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORICAL CONTEXT. SO, UH, THERE'S A PROVISION IN THE TRUST THAT SAYS WHEN WERE FIRST TO IT AS THE TOWN OF INDIAN TOWN WHEN IT IS INCORPORATED IT WOULD GET TRANSFERRED FROM THE COUNTY TO THE VILLAGE. AND THAT WAS DONE. THE MONEY WAS TRANSFERRED OVER AND, UH SO IT GOT STARTED UP AND WAS WAS BEING RUN INITIALLY. UM WITH, UH, WITH APPLICATION FORMS AND EVERYTHING AND THEN BEING AWARDED AND GRANT AGREEMENTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU FRANKLY, THEN COVID HIT COVID HIT AND THEN A LOT OF MONEY PRINTING STARTED HAPPENING, THE RESULT OF WHICH WAS, UH, INTEREST RATES WERE AT ZERO AND THE MONEY GOT SPENT OUT OF THE INTEREST AND THEN NOTHING WAS GROWING ON THAT $1 MILLION FOR A WHILE. IF THE MAYOR WILL AS MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ WILL REMEMBER. IT WAS INCREDIBLY SMALL SUMS SITTING THERE NOT ENOUGH TO BOTHER GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO HAND OUT TO ANYBODY. AND THEN IT SAT FOR A WHILE AS A RESULT OF THAT, AND OF COURSE, WE'RE IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT NOW AND THE MONEY IS GOING UP SO IT IT WOULD BE WELL TO SPEND IT, PARTICULARLY BEFORE THE TERM OF THE UH, TRUST AGREEMENT IS UP. IT WAS AN ANNUAL EVENT. SO CAN WE EXTEND THE SEARCH? A VOLUNTEER FOR SO BEFORE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. WELL, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, SO I WOULD SUGGEST TWO WEEKS. INSTEAD OF JUST ONE WEEK IN ORDER TO SATISFY EVERYBODY'S, UM WANT TO SO AND, UM. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THIS COUNCIL. TO IF YOU THINK THAT THERE A RE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE WILLING TO STEP UP. AND SERVE THEIR

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COMMUNITY. IN THIS CAPACITY. I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO THAT. BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE FOUND IN TRYING TO FIND A DESIGNEE FOR WHATEVER COMMITTEE. IT'S VERY HARD TO FIND. BECAUSE WHENEVER I TALK TO MULTIPLE COMMUNITY MEMBERS BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS SO BUSY THE FIRST THING I AM I I'M OH, HOW MUCH DOES IT PAY? I GET THAT I EVERY TIME AND YET, YOU KNOW, NOT NO SORRY. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S VOLUNTEER. IT'S JUST SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE. I WOULD ENCOURAGE THIS COUNCIL SINCE WE NOW ARE VERY WELL AWARE . I KNOW THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT AT PREVIOUS COUNCIL.

UH, MEETINGS. THAT'S THE REASON IT WAS DONE. BUT NOW WE KNOW WHEN AND ARE AWARE OF THE PROCESS THAT WE GET OUT THERE AND THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE AWARE OF ENCOURAGE THEM. TO BECOME INVOLVED IN THE IN THE PROCESS AND THEN IN THE COMMUNITY AND SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY, SO WE'LL EXTEND IT FOR TWO WEEKS. OKAY? SOUNDS GOOD. A RE WE DONE WITH THAT.

EVERYBODY'S SATISFIED. JUST QUESTION. UM, HOW MANY MEMBERS CAN THAT COMMITTEE HAVE? IT'S LIMITED TO FOUR MEMBERS FROM THE COMMUNITY, ONE FROM BOOKER PARK AND ONE FROM INDIAN WOOD. AND THEN THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE FPNL OR WHAT BACK THEN WAS THE COGEN PLANT. AND THEN A COUNCIL MEMBER. OKAY? SO WHAT ABOUT I'M THINKING IN THE FUTURE , THERE IS MORE PEOPLE THAN JUST FOUR. APPLY FOR THIS. THEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? MISTER VILLAGE ATTORNEY IF MORE THAN FOUR PEOPLE APPLY TO BE ON THE BOARD. LET'S JUST SAY IF WE GET SIX PEOPLE YOU ALL DECIDE WHICH FOUR GO ON. NOW, UH, SO IT'S FOUR REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COMMUNITY PLUS FPNL, PLUS THE PLUS PLUS THE COUNCIL. SO YOU'RE TALKING A SIX MEMBER, UM, COMMITTEE? 77 YEAH. FOUR PLUS TWO PLUS ONE. I'M DOING THAT, MA. OK, NOW I JUST DID FOUR PLUS TWO WHO'S THE OTHER ONE? THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE TWO I OKAY FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT, AND WE GOT 24 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. TO FP REPRESENTATIVES. I WAS JUST DOING ONE COUNCIL MEMBER. YEAH IT'S 21. BUT IT DOES THE AGREEMENT REQUIRES FOR YOU, TOO. I APPRECIATE THE HELP. I'M A VERY VISUAL PERSON THAT WORKS OK? OKAY, SO WE HAVE OUR MARCHING ORDERS. WE'RE GOOD. OKAY FANTASTIC. OK MOVING ON TO

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Draft Revisions to Special Event Regulations for Council Review

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ITEM NUMBER SIX. D REVISIONS TO SPECIAL EVENT REGULATIONS FOR COUNCIL REVIEW. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL BE HANDLING THIS ITEM OR JUST FACILITATING, UH, DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM. AS DISCUSSED AT, UH, PRIOR COUNSEL MEETINGS. MY OFFICE UH, TOOK A CRACK AT PUTTING TOGETHER DRAFT REVISIONS TO THE, UH VILLAGES. SPECIAL EVENT, UH, REGULATIONS FOR YOUR REVIEW AND FEEDBACK. UM IT WAS PREPARED BASED ON FEEDBACK THAT HAD BEEN RECEIVED FROM THE COUNCIL AND FROM THE PUBLIC AT PRIOR MEETINGS AS WELL AS, UH, A SUGGESTION. SOME SUGGESTED DRAFT ORDINANCE REVISIONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER DIPAOLO HAD CIRCULATED TO MY OFFICE. SO UH, I'LL GO THROUGH THE BASICS OF WHAT YOU FIND IN THIS. AND THEN WHAT? UH WE WOULD WELCOME IS DISCUSSION FROM THE COUNCIL DIRECTION. UH, BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS THROUGH THE PC, A B AND THEN BACK TO YOU ALL FOR ADOPTION IN SOME FORM AFTER YOU ALL ARE HAPPY WITH IT. SO FIRST OFF THE ORDINANCE, UH, INITIALLY SEPARATES OUT THE CURRENT ORDINANCE PROVISION ACTUALLY HAS TWO THINGS GOING ON. IN ONE ORDINANCE. IT HAS, UM TEMPORARY USES AND SPECIAL EVENTS THAT THAT MAKES SENSE IN ONE RESPECT, BUT WE THOUGHT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE FLESHING OUT SPECIAL EVENTS. WE BREAK IT OUT AND DO ITS OWN, UH, SUBSECTION, SO WE WENT AHEAD AND DID THAT AND PROVIDED A NUMBER OF DEFINITIONS. WHAT WE FOUND IN APPLYING THIS SPECIAL EVENT ORDINANCE IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SITUATIONS. THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS. WHAT DO SOME OF THESE WORDS MEAN? OK SO WE WENT AHEAD AND, UH, PUT A NUMBER OF DEFINITIONS IN ALONG THIS SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE ARGUMENTS ABOUT IT. AND ALL OF THIS, AND THESE, UH, DEFINITIONS ARE DRAWN , UH, FROM A DIFFERENT ORDINANCE PROVISIONS THAT OUR OFFICE IS TAKING A LOOK AT. AND, UH THEN GONE OVER. JUST, UH WITH A READING FROM MY OFFICE. THE PRIMARY. UH CHANGE YOU WILL FIND OR A FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE YOU WILL FIND IS THAT THIS DRAFT ORDINANCE VESTS AUTHORITY TO ISSUE SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS IN THE VILLAGE MANAGER IN ALL

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INSTANCES, SO IT ELIMINATES THE NEED TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. THAT WAS FEEDBACK.

WE WERE HEARING FROM MULTIPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN YOUR PAST. UH, DISCUSSIONS. UH, SO THAT IT CAN BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE DETERMINATION AND YOU KNOW IF IT MEETS THE RULES THAT YOU HAVE OUT HERE THEN IT CAN BE DONE AND YOU'RE DONE. THE DRAFT ORDINANCE , UH, REVISES THE APPLICATION DEADLINE FOR SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS. UH IT, UH, CHANGED IT FROM 60 DAYS TO 30 DAYS. OF COURSE. YOU KNOW, WHATEVER NUMBER YOU WANT IT TO BE, IS WHAT NUMBER IT WILL BE. BUT SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE HEARD WAS, UH, 60 DAYS BEFORE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND YOU WOULD HAVE IT.

THAT IS A FAIR TIME OUT, AND SO PERHAPS, UH, COULD MOVE IT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. SO THAT DRAFT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU MOVES IT TO DEADLINE OF 30 DAYS BEFORE THE EVENT. REQUIRES SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND DOCUMENTATION AND PERMIT APPLICATIONS. SOME OF THIS, UH, INFORMATION IS INFORMATION THAT WAS KIND OF IMPLICIT IN THE REQUIREMENTS BEFORE AND STUFF STAFF WOULD ASK FOR, BUT WE WANT TO BREAK IT OUT, SO IT'S VERY CLEAR FOR APPLICANTS THEY NEED TO PROVIDE IT. UM AND THEN, UH, FOR SOME VERY LARGE EVENTS HAS SOME AUTOMATIC REQUIREMENTS FOR A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN. FOR VERY LARGE EVENTS. EVENTS WITH 500. MORE ATTENDEES, UH, PROOF OF INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS AND SPECIFIC, UH, INFORMATION REQUIREMENTS ABOUT PARADES AND PROCESSIONS. ALSO REQUIRES FOR WHAT WE CATEGORIZE IN HERE AS MAJOR EVENTS, WHICH IS EVENTS OVER 100 ATTENDEES THAT THERE BE CO ORDINATION WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE FUNDING OF PERSONNEL IF REQUIRED. THE ORDINANCE ALSO HAS SOME, UH TIME PLACE AND MANNER.

REGULATIONS CONCERNING SPECIAL EVENTS HAS SOME GENERAL LANGUAGE SPEAKING ABOUT PARADES, HAVING TO STAY ON THEIR DESIGNATED ROUTES, AND SO ON KIND OF THINGS IMPLICIT IN WHAT WAS IN THE, UH ORDINANCE BEFORE BUT BEEN MADE EXPLICIT NOW ANOTHER, UH, ITEM THAT THAT YOU'LL FIND IN HERE IS LEMONY EVENTS TO ONE AT A TIME PER LOCATION. UM SO THIS WAS, UH, THIS WAS AN ELEMENT THAT WAS IN THE, UH SUGGESTED REVISIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAUL LOW BUT I WILL OFFER IT WAS AN ISSUE . IT IS AN ISSUE THAT HAS COME UP BEFORE BEFORE THE COUNCIL WHERE YOU'VE HAD DUELING EVENTS IF YOU WILL COMING IN RIGHT IN AND AROUND THE SAME LOCATION AND THAT HAD HAD GIVEN SOME CONSTERNATION TO THE COUNCIL BEFORE. UM ALSO, UH GOES THROUGH AND LAYS OUT, UH, REQUIREMENT INTERNALLY FOR, UH, CONSULTATION WITH DIFFERENT UH, VILLAGE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, AS WELL AS IN SOME CASES, WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR APPLICATION REVIEW. AND UM, THEN REQUIRES VILLAGE MANAGER TO NOTIFY APPLICANTS OF DECISIONS ON PERMIT APPLICATIONS AFTER A COMPLETE APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED, ALSO PROVIDES FOR AN APPEAL PROCESS FOR DENIED APPLICATIONS. AND THAT'S AN APPEAL. THIS MAY SOUND WEIRD, BUT IT'S VERY COMMON, UH, IT'S AN APPEAL. TO THE VILLAGE MANAGER. AND SO IT'S BASICALLY A FORMAL WAY TO COME IN AND SAY NO , I THINK YOU MISSED SOMETHING. OF COURSE, A AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, THINGS INFORMALLY ARE GONNA BE DISCUSSED TO SORT OUT THIS OR THAT OR WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT THERE'S A FORMAL WAY TO COME IN AND SAY NO, I THINK THAT DECISION WAS INCORRECT. UM ALSO HAS A REQUIREMENT. UH, WHAT HAS BEEN A PRACTICE HISTORICALLY, BUT A REQUIREMENT. NOW THE VILLAGE MANAGER WOULD ON A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT BEING GRANTED, PROVIDE WRITTEN NOTICE TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO YOU ALL ARE IN THE KNOW. THAT ONE HAS BEEN GRANTED JUST BY EMAIL. OR WHAT HAVE YOU UM, THIS ORDINANCE ALSO, D ADDS, UH, DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR PERMITS FOR THE PEOPLE BEING ISSUED SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS. UH AND SPECIFYING, UH, THE, UH, TYPES OF, UH, FACILITIES AND EQUIPMENT THEY THEY NEED TO PROVIDE IN CERTAIN INSTANCES.

AND ALSO HAS SOME REGULATIONS ABOUT PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC CONDUCT. INTERFERING WITH SPECIAL EVENTS. UM AND FINALLY WE DID A LITTLE OTHER CLEAN UP AND MOVING STUFF AROUND. SO THOSE ARE THE BASICS OF WHAT YOU FIND, UH, IN THIS, AND UH, GLAD TO GET FEEDBACK TO MAKE FURTHER REVISION SO WE CAN RUN IT THROUGH THE PROCESS. OK, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS? I'LL LET YOU LEAD OUT. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SO UH, I WENT OVER AND READ EVERYTHING AND THERE ARE A FEW QUESTIONS. UM ONE THING IS, I SAW THAT PARADE SLASH PROCESSION AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN PROPOSE IT AS TAKE OUT THE PROCESSION OUT OF THERE

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AND MAKE IT RELIGIOUS PROCESSIONS. JUST BECAUSE IN MY MIND, IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT, AND PEOPLE MIGHT THINK IT'S A PARADE. AND IT'S NOT PARADE LIKE WHEN I SPECIFY. A PROCESSION.

IT'S NOT A PARADE LIKE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WALKING. YOU DON'T HAVE CARS WITH FLOATS AND ALL THAT.

THAT'S IT TOTAL SEPARATE THING. THEN, UM SO IF WE CAN PROPOSE THAT FOR PAGE FOUR PAGE FIVE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOU HAVE AIR SHOWS A B ART SHOW C BLOCK PARTIES. D PARADE SLASH PROCESSIONS. IF YOU CAN DO D PARADES AND THEN UNDERNEATH YOU CAN DO RELIGIOUS PRES. I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. AND UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PAID SEVEN IF ROAD CLOSURES ARE NECESSARY, OR IF THE EVENT HAS AN EXPECTED ATTENDANCE OF 500 OR MORE PEOPLE , A MAINTENANCE OF TRAFFIC PLAN.

WHAT IS A MAINTENANCE TRAFFIC PLAN? BECAUSE THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE NOT KNOWN TO GOVERNMENT KNOWS HOW DO WE ACCESS THIS? WHERE DO WE GO FIND THIS INFORMATION? BECAUSE I'VE HAD PEOPLE APPLICANTS CALL ME AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE IN A 21ST CENTURY, AND THERE IS NOWHERE ON YOUR SITE WHERE IT SAYS. WHERE CAN I SUBMIT IT? LIKE, UM SO, UM THAT SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT I'VE GOTTEN FROM DIFFERENT APPLICANTS. THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS, UM THEN 15. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROOF OF COMPREHENSIVE LIABILITY INSURANCE. I KNOW THAT MARTIN COUNTY HAS, UM MARTIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. WE ONLY REQUIRE VILLAGE OF OPINION TOWN. SHOULDN'T IT BE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS OR SOMETHING, COUNCIL AND, UH, LIST ALSO THE VILLAGE MANAGER. CAUSE THERE ARE I. I WILL TELL YOU THIS BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS, AND SO LIKE, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN. WHERE THE DECIDING FACTOR, YES, BUT THEN WHO'S THE ONE THAT'S DOING THE EVERYDAY WORK? WHICH IS THE VILLAGE MANAGERS? SHOULDN'T THEY BE LISTED IN? IN THE, UH, INSURANCE THAT THE PROVIDERS PROVIDING US DO YOU WANT ME TO JUMP IN AND HANDLE THAT ONE? OK ALL RIGHT. SO UH, W WHEN YOU MENTIONED WITH RESPECT TO THE COUNTY THAT THE BOARD, NOT THE INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS , THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IS LISTED AS THE AS THE ADDITIONAL INSURED. THAT'S BECAUSE THE PHRASE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF MARTIN COUNTY. IS LEGAL ALTER EGO FOR MARTIN COUNTY, A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THEY'RE THE SAME THING. OK THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IS THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT. SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU REFERENCE IT THAT WAY, THERE'S KIND OF TWO WAYS. YOU CAN REFERENCE A COUNTY AS A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, ALL RIGHT WITH MUNICIPALITIES. IT'S ONE.

THE TECHNICAL DEFINITION IS VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, A FLORIDA MUNICIPAL CORPORATION.

OK, SO WITH RESPECT TO UH UH, PROVIDING NAMING EACH COUNCIL MEMBER OR MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL OR THE VILLAGE MANAGER, UH, AS AN ADDITIONAL INSURED THAT'S NOT A PRACTICE I'VE EVER SEEN ANYWHERE IN THE STATE. ALL OF YOU HAVE ALL OF YOU HAVE SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY. WITH REGARD TO YOUR DECISIONS HERE. YOU HAVE AT BARE MINIMUM QUALIFIED IMMUNITY WITH REGARD TO EVERYTHING. YOU YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE. FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT. WHO IS GOING TO BE SUED WHO THE PROPER PARTY TO BE SUED FOR ANY DECISIONS YOU MAKE. IS THE VILLAGE. NOT YOU INDIVIDUALLY, OK, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE NO, IT'S YEAH, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, BUT THAT THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE THAT ANYWHERE WHERE THEY NAME OUT INDIVIDUAL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IN THE NONPROFIT WORLD. THERE'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME. SO ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY.

ALL THIS SEEING IT IN THE PUBLIC ORGANIZATION WORLD AND GO GOING TO SCHOOL AND SEEING THIS HOW NONPROFITS TOTALLY DIFFERENT, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT VERY GOOD QUESTION. BUT I WANT TO JUMP IN AND ANSWER THIS. SO PLEASE CONTINUE, OK? YEAH, NO WORRIES. SO I UNDERSTAND NOW, UM SO ON PAGE EIGHT, YOU HAVE SEE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND RESCUE SUPPORT. SAYS MAJOR SPECIAL EVENTS REQUIRE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRING EMS SUPPORT WITH THE REQUIRED STAFFING LEVELS DETERMINED BY EACH AGENCY. UM SO IT'S TALKS ABOUT APPLICANT SHALL SUBMIT LETTERS OF NON ABDUCTION AND PROOF OF ENGAGEMENT FROM EACH AGENCY WITH THE APPLICATION FOR SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. MY THING IS, ARE WE OBLIGATING EVERYONE TO GET EMS SUPPORT YEAH. IF IT SAYS MAJOR. IT'S

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YEAH, IT'S UM BECAUSE THE MAJOR IT'S REQUIRED AT THE STAFFING LEVEL DETERMINED BY THAT AGENCY.

SO IN THAT INSTANCE IT WOULD BE MARTIN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE. IT IT IT COULD BE IN MARTIN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE LOOKS AT A GIVEN THINGS THAT WE DON'T NEED TO BE THERE, SO THE STAFFING LEVEL WOULD BE ZERO. BUT DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT IS. IT'S REQUIRING THAT IT BE EVALUATED AND THAT IT BE PROVIDED AT THE STAFFING LEVEL. THEY THEY DIRECT. I JUST LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE. BECAUSE I I'VE WORKED FOR 13 YEARS AT HOLY CROSS. WE'VE NEVER HAD EMS. WE DO HAVE OFFICERS. AND SO I AND STAFF IS GOING TO TELL ME WELL, IT SAYS IT IN YOUR WELL, I WANNA DOUBLE CHECK NOW, BECAUSE NO, THIS IS WHY THIS IS WHY WE'RE HERE. SO YEAH, PLEASE. SO IF THIS. THIS MEANS THAT THEY'RE NOT OBLIGATED IF THE EMS SAYS WE DON'T SEE BECAUSE WE BASICALLY ALL OUR EVENTS ARE IN CENTER PARISH. WE DO HAVE SOME UM, I EXTERIOR STUFF, BUT IT'S NOT TO AN EXTENT THAT IT'S NOT LIKE A SEAFOOD FESTIVAL LIKE A SUN FEST THAT YOU HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE DRINKING AND ALL THAT. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT VERY SMALL, WHERE YOU HAVE VOLUNTEERS, PARKING AND EVERY AND EVERYTHING IS SO ORGANIZED. YEAH, I. I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOESN'T BRING UP COST ON. YOU KNOW INDIVIDUALS, BECAUSE TODAY COULD BE HOLY CROSS TOMORROW. IT COULD BE THE SWAMP FEST TOMORROW . THE NEXT DAY, IT COULD BE SOMEONE ELSE THAT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO THESE DECISIONS, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT EVERYONE IN THE LONG RUN. AND SO BEFORE WE DO THESE DECISIONS, WE SOMETIMES DON'T SEE IT NOW, BUT IT'S GONNA COME UP LATER ON ABOUT OUR DECISION. SO COUNCIL MEMBER UH UH, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE AND I CAN GO BACK AND WHEN I'M REWORKING THIS TO RUN IT THROUGH THE PROCESS. IN THAT FIRST SENTENCE THERE. RATHER THAN IT BEING MAJOR SPECIAL EVENTS REQUIRE LAW ENFORCEMENT FIRE EMS SUPPORT WHICH REQUIRE STAFFING LEVELS TO DETERMINE BY EACH AGENCY. REORIENTED TO SAY MAJOR SPECIAL EVENTS. HAVE TO INQUIRE WITH WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRE AND EMS AS TO RECOMMENDED STAFFING LEVELS, YOU KNOW, AND IF RECOMMENDED, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE THEM. AND I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER ON BOTH ENDS. ABSOLUTELY YEAH, THERE'S NO THERE'S NO INTENTION IN THIS LANGUAGE TO IF THAT AGENCY SAYS NO, WE DON'T NEED TO BE THERE. THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF ONE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT WOULD BE AT THE LEVEL THAT THAT AGENCY RECOMMENDS. GOT IT. THEN WE HAVE, UM SAME THING. PAGE EIGHT. A IT SAYS PARADE SLASH PROCESSIONS OR ORGANIZED COMPETITIVE EVENTS SHALL TAKE PLACE WITHIN A DESIGNATED ROUTE TO BE APPROVED BY THE VILLAGE MANAGER. WHAT DESIGNATED ROUTE UH, THAT'S THAT'S JUST SPECIFYING WHEN, WHEN A, UH, PARADE UNDER THIS DRAFTING HERE, UM, PARADE PROCESSION ORGANIZED, COMPETITIVE EVENT IS, UM, WHEN YOU APPLY, YOU WOULD SPECIFY YOU SPECIFY THE ROUTE YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING, AND THAT ROUTE IS SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE VILLAGE MANAGER. OK, SO THE MANAGER IS NOT IN MAKING THE ROUND. THEY'RE JUST APPROVING THE ROUTE THAT THE ENTITY IS PUTTING FORWARD. YEAH THAT'S PART OF ITEM 16, ABC AND D BECAUSE IF YOU GO LOOK UP, THAT'S WHAT THE THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT IS ALREADY DOING UP THERE. IS THEY'RE DOING ALL OF THAT. THEY'RE THEY'RE DOING THE ALL THAT INFORMATION. A. YEAH UH, NUMBER 16 FOR PARADES, PROCESSIONS. THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE SAYING ALL THIS STUFF THAT THEN THAT GIVES DOWN TO FOUR A HE GIVES, UM GIVES ALL THE INFORMATION THAT THE MANAGER NEEDS TO APPROVE IT. CORRECT? YEAH. AND THEN PAGE NINE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE LOCATION. I WANNA MAKE SURE THIS IS ONE LOCATION PER PLACE, OR IS IT ONE LOCATION THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY? THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE, LIKE, LET'S JUST SAY WE HAVE THREE PRODUCTS. BOGO PARK POST FAMILY PARK IN BIG MOUNTAIN IF THERE'S A MAJOR EVENT IN BIG MOUNTAIN PARK COUNCILOR, I'M SO SORRY. WHICH SECTION I'M TRYING TO KEEP NOTES AND PAGE NINE D. P NINE YOU YOU TALK ABOUT, UM IT SAYS ONE LOCATION, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE FOR THE PUBLIC

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UM, INFORMATION IF IT'S ONE LOCATION WOULD IT APPLY FOR IF SOMEONE. ORGANIZATION ONE HAS AN EVENT. A BIG MOUNTAIN AND ORGANIZATION TWO WANTS TO COME AND DO AN EVENT AND POST ON PARK THAT THAT LANGUAGE COULD USE A LITTLE REWRITING. IT'S MEANT TO BE, UH, TO LOCA TWO SPECIAL EVENTS IN THE SAME LOCATION AT THE I. I SEE WHAT I SEE PRECISELY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I CAN DO SOME REWRITING ON THAT AND SAY YOU COULD YOU COULD HAVE 15 DIFFERENT SPECIAL EVENTS GOING ON IN THE VILLAGE IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. CORRECT I'LL REWRITE THAT TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR BECAUSE I STUDIED BUSINESS LAW, SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT WORDS MEAN A LOT.

ABSOLUTELY, UM SO PAGE NINE. WE'RE GOING AT THE VILLAGE MANAGER SHALL CONSULT WITH VILLAGE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS. UM SO THIS IS NOT GOING TO THE DIRECTOR ANYMORE. IT'S GOING TO THE VILLAGE MANAGER DIRECTLY. THAT'S THE WAY IT'S DRAFTED RIGHT NOW. UH, NOW KEEP IN MIND.

UH, I IN ANY, UM VILLAGE MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT. UH BUILD MANAGER OFTEN ACTS THROUGH THEY DIRECTORS AND EMPLOYEES, SO IT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE JUST TERROR AND MOVING EVERY PIECE OF PAPER AROUND OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS DOES. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THE VILLAGE MANAGER IS THE DECISION MAKER WITH RESPECT TO AND IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE IT TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE, THAT'S THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I HAVE A VESTED RIGHT NOW IN THIS DRAFT. I. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THE COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT, UM NOW WHAT YOU MEAN PAGE 11? IT SAYS, UH, NUMBER 13. IF THE EVENT IS A PARADE SLASH PROCESSION, THE PARADE SLASH PROCESSION IS SCHEDULED TO MOVE OUT FROM ITS POINT OF ORIGIN TO ITS POINT OF DETERMINATION EXPEDITIOUSLY WITHOUT UNREASONABLE DELAYS IN ROME. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME? WHEN YOU MEAN EXPEDIENCY. EXPEDITIOUSLY EXPEDITIOUSLY. SORRY YEAH, NO, IT IT JU IT JUST, UH IT JUST BASICALLY MEANS THAT, UM AND ANALYZING AGAINST THE EXAMPLE YOU MIGHT BE THINKING OF. WE COULD DO SLIGHT REWORDING ON THAT. WHAT THAT'S DIRECTED TO IS GENERALLY VERY REASONABLE THING THAT IF LET'S PUT IN THE CONTEXT OF A PARADE BECAUSE YOU SUGGESTED BREAKING OUT PARADING. PER SESSION. WE SEE IT IN THE CONTEXT OF A PARADE WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME CARS GOING AND, UH, YOU KNOW, FLOATS. AND WHAT HAVE YOU WHAT IT'S SAYING IS HEY, IF YOU'RE HAVING A PARADE YOU GOTTA KEEP MOVING. IT IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, MOVE ALONG A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN YOU'RE YOU KNOW THERE FOR HALF AN HOUR OR WHATEVER, AND MEANDERING ALL DAY LONG OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS. IF YOU HAVE A PARADE MOVE ALONG AND HAVE YOUR PARADE. UM BUT, UH BUT I CAN I IF THE CONCERN OR THOUGHT IS CONCERNING CONCERNING THE THOUGHT IS BECAUSE HOLY CROSS HAS BEEN DOING THIS HOW MANY YEARS FOR 3040? MORE BEFORE I EVEN STARTED. AND I WAS BORN, UM THEY'VE BEEN DOING LIVE STATIONS OF THE CROSS. SO, UM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT GENEROUS GENERATION BY GENERATION. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ACCUSTOMED TO.

AND EVEN IN GUATEMALA, LIKE GUATEMALA. IT'S SO MUCH BIGGER, UM SO AND THERE'S NO INTENTION IN THIS LANGUAGE TO, YOU KNOW. CAUSE ANY CONCERN FOR THAT, SO WE CAN WE CAN SORT THAT OUT. I MEAN, FRANKLY, IT MIGHT THE WHOLE SENTENCE MIGHT BE SUPERFLUOUS. I'M GLAD TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. WE CAN AT BARE MINIMUM, REWRITE IT TO HAVE IT NOT HAVE ANY EFFECT ON ANY OF THAT. OK? OKAY WELL, I APPRECIATE IT AND THAT'S IT. I WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING. I. I APPRECIATE THE STAFF'S WORK. YOU UH UM YOUR STAFF'S WORK BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW? WORKING TOGETHER IS THE BEST THING BECAUSE YOU GET EVERYONE ON THE SAME LEVEL AND HAVING THIS PUBLIC TALK HAVING THE, UM THIS TELEVISED, UM SO PEOPLE CAN LOOK BACK AT IT AND KNOW LOOK, WE TALKED ABOUT IT. THERE WAS CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. SO THANK YOU. OK? NO. SOMETHING THAT WENT OVER MY HEAD IN DOING THIS. WAS I NEVER INTENDED. OKAY? SO LET'S TAKE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, FOR EXAMPLE. IF THEY'RE HAVING AN EVENT. ON THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY. THEY SHOULD BE EXEMPT.

FROM HAVING TO GET A PERMIT. THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN. ANYTHING OVER 100. WOULD BE A MAJOR

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EVENT. I DON'T THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO HAVE PLACES OF WORSHIP. WHERE 100 AND 520,300 PEOPLE, I MEAN, THEY THEY'D HAVE TO COME AND GET A PERMIT FOR A WEDDING. IF THAT WERE THE CASE. SO I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE AND. NO, I TH I THINK WE SHOULD WE SHOULD WRITE INTO THIS. WHICH I WISH I HAD. WELL, INITIALLY, COUNCILMAN , YOU SAID IT WOULD BE RELATIVE TO VILLAGE OWNED PROPERTY.

VILLAGE OWNED PROPERTY CORRECT. THIS THIS WOULD BE RELATIVE TO VILLAGE OWNED PROPERTY, THE STREETS, THE PARKS. IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTY EVEN I MEAN, IF YOU GET BIG HOUSE AND YOU HAVE 100 PEOPLE AT YOUR HOUSE AND YOU'RE HAVING A WEDDING OR YOU'RE HAVING THE GUATEMALAN SOMETIMES HAVE FUNERALS AT THEIR HOUSES. IT'S VERY VERY LIKE LIKELY THAT THERE'S GONNA BE 100 PEOPLE THERE. WE'RE NOT GONNA REQUIRE THEM. TO COME AND GET A PERMIT FOR THAT. THAT WOULD BE CRAZY. SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE OUGHT TO HAVE A PARAGRAPH IN HERE THAT THAT MAKES THAT DISTINCTION. YEAH, THE THAT ALLOWS FOR THEM. FOR THE CHURCH. NOW IF THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A PROCESSION THEY DON'T NEED TO GET THEY CAN GET A PERMIT FOR A PROCESSION. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED TO WORRY ABOUT IS THE STREET. NOT THEIR PROPERTY. SO I THINK I'M TRYING TO FIND A WORD.

I HAD IT AND I LOST IT. UM AN EXCEPTION. TO LET LET LET ME LET ME OFF FOR BREAKING THINGS DOWN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS, OK, BECAUSE BY THE WAY, IT IS A IT IS A COMMON WAY, BUT I WANNA I WANNA THROW OUT. SET OF FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT. IT IS A COMMON WAY TO SAY ALL RIGHT. WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE OUR SPECIAL EVENT. UH, REGULATIONS. IT'S ONLY WHEN IT'S ON VILLAGE PROPERTY AND THIS VILLAGE PROPERTY EITHER IN A PARK OR IT'S THOSE PROPERTY WHERE IT INVOLVES THE RIGHT OF WAYS OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS. HERE. HERE'S JUST THE, UM AND IT'S VERY, VERY COMMON, FOR EXAMPLE, TO SAY OR TO HAVE RULES SET UP SUCH THAT WHEN A CHURCH IS GOING TO HAVE A FESTIVAL. NO SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. OK, THAT THAT IS A VERY COMMON SET UP AS WELL. HERE. HERE'S THE THING I WANT YOU TO THINK OF. PRIVATE PROPERTY. RAW LAND. MUSIC FESTIVAL. OK? OKEECHOBEE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE OKEECHOBEE MUSIC FESTIVAL. THIS UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASY FOR US TO THINK ABOUT.

YOU KNOW THE EVENTS WE'VE HAD BEFORE, AND THIS DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I I'M JUST I'M POINTING OUT. ATYPICAL WAY YOU SEE? SEE IT, UM BROKEN DOWN IS BASICALLY SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS. IF THEY'RE FOR SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST STUFF THAT'S GOING ON ON VILLAGE PROPERTY, EITHER. AND PARKS ARE RIGHT AWAY. WHAT HAVE YOU WILL BE FOR INSTANCES WHERE AN EVENT IS GOING ON. THAT IS BEYOND THE SCOPE OR CHARACTER OF THAT PROPERTY GENERALLY. ALL RIGHT. WHAT THAT PROPERTY IS GENERALLY FOR AND THEY USUALLY CATEGORIZE AND SAY CHURCHES ARE FOR GOING TO CHURCH. BUT CHURCHES ARE ALSO FOR CHURCH FESTIVALS. BECAUSE THOSE HAPPEN ALL THE TIME IT'S GONNA SET UP FOR THAT THEY CAN. THEY DON'T NEED ANYTHING ELSE FROM US ON THIS, BUT WHEN YOU'VE GOT RAW LAND. AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A MUSIC FESTIVAL. YOUR DECISION IS JUST IS, ARE WE GONNA HAVE A PROCESS WHERE WE MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE SET UP SAFE? THAT A RE GONNA HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, FIRE UH, PROTECTION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SET UP IN SUCH A WAY SO THAT IF AN EMERGENCY HAPPENS, EVERYONE'S NOT RUNNING INTO YOU KNOW, HORRIBLE THINGS AND SO ON. OR A RE WE NOT AND THAT THAT'S THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE WHERE SPECIAL EVENTS. ON SOMETHING OTHER THAN JUST VILLAGE PROPERTY. TENDS TO STILL MAKE SOME SENSE JUST FROM EXPERIENCE IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS. UM AND THE BEST EXA MLE IS OKEECHOBEE FESTIVAL BECAUSE IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE. MY PARENTS PASSED THROUGH IT ALL THE TIME. AND THEY SAY THE TRAFFIC AND ALL THAT. IT'S LIKE LITERALLY A PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT COME INTO IT AND THE ELECTED

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OFFICIALS AND PEOPLE I KNOW FROM OKEECHOBEE. THEY TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME BECAUSE IT IMPACTS IMPACTS. WALMART IMPACTS LIKE EVERYTHING LIKE SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, BECAUSE THAT'S ON A PRIVATE PROPERTY. THAT'S NOT VILLAGE ON OR UM, COUNTY OWNER CITY OWNED.

IT'S ACTUALLY ON A PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO WHEN IT GOES TO A MAGNITUDE WHERE YOU'RE ADVERTISING TO THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND PEOPLE COME FROM EVERYWHERE THEY FLY IN, AND THEY COME THROUGH ACTUALLY FLY INTO WEST PALM, AND THEY COME THROUGH INDIAN TOWN TO GO ALL THE WAY TO OKEECHOBEE BECAUSE I'VE ACTUALLY PASS THROUGH IT BECAUSE MY PARENTS PASSED THROUGH THAT EVERY WEEKEND AND THE TRAFFIC. THEY THEY DON'T THEY ALREADY KNOW WHEN OKEECHOBEE F, UM MUSIC FESTIVAL. THEY DO NOT GO THROUGH THAT AREA CAUSE IT'S JUST CRAZY. SO TRYING TO PROHIBIT IN THE INSTANCE WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE A FESTIVAL SHOW UP AND COME, YOU KNOW THE HEADACHE THAT YOU MIGHT ENCOUNTER. THIS IS WHY THESE REGULATIONS COME IN. PLAY, SO IT MIGHT BE A ZONING FOR YOU KNOW WHERE YOU WERE GOING. IF IT'S A RESIDENTIAL PARCEL, IT'S FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES. I WANT TO OFFER A THOUGHT, THOUGH. I MEAN TO THE, UM THERE'S A REASON WHY IN THIS STRUCTURE HERE, AND IT'S VERY COMMON TO FIND THE SPECIAL EVENTS, ORDINANCE OR PROVISION. IS IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. OK? AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN GREAT PART. A PIECE OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PERMITTING TEMPORARY USES OF LAND. RIGHT? IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO COME IN AND PUT ON UH, MUSIC CONCERTS EVERY WEEKEND. RIGHT. THEY COULD COME INTO THE VILLAGE AND UM YOU KNOW, GET PERMITTED TO BUILD AN AMPHITHEATER. AND THEN HAVE IT EVERY WEEKEND. THEY WOULDN'T BE DOING SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SET UP FOR. THAT WOULD BE WHAT THEY ZONING PERMITTED USE RIGHT? UM BUT IN THE INSTANCE WHERE YOU'RE TAKING A PIECE OF LAND AND OFTEN TIMES, EVEN IF IT'S OTHERWISE OWNED, SOMETHING ELSE LIKE, SAY, PRESIDENTIAL. THERE'S A BIG, RAW LAND PIECE OF RESIDENTIAL, BUT SOMEBODY WANTED TO COME IN AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MUSIC FESTIVAL THESE TWO DAYS SO LONG AS WE CAN MAKE IT SAFE AND MEET ALL YOUR RULES. THAT'S THE TYPE OF THING YOU COULD DO AND AGAIN. MIGHT BE A I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S AN EDGE CASE BECAUSE THAT THIS WILL ENCOMPASS SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS, BUT IF THERE IS A DESIRE TO SAY YEAH, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE, UM YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT UH, YOU KNOW? CHURCHES HAVING FESTIVALS AND SO ON ANYMORE. THAT'S EASY TO DO TO CARVE THAT OUT THERE. BUT THE SAME THING WOULD COME. ANY ANY PIECE OF RAW LAND IN DOWNTOWN, UH, IN DOWNTOWN INDIAN TOWN. IN THE PAST. YOU ALL HAVE HAD THE, UH, CARNIVAL CUP. YOU KNOW, BUT IF THEY DIDN'T COME AND GO ON VILLAGE PROPERTY WHERE WE HAD A LOT OF CONTROL BECAUSE IT WAS VILLAGES, PROPERTY, THEY WANT TO GO ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY. QUESTION IS GONNA BE. DOES THE VILLAGE WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN MAKING SURE THEY'RE SETTING IT UP? SAFE OR NOT? WELL. I DON'T KNOW. I AND TERENCE HAD HAD EXPERIENCE WITH, UH OUT THERE. PLANT BAMBOO WITH THEIR SWAMP FEST. YOU KNOW, AND THEY GENERATE A LOT OF MONEY. BUT THE COUNTY CAME DOWN ON THEM. THEY HAVE TO GET PERMITTED. THEY HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE. THEY HAVE TO HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT. THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN AMBULANCE. THEY? THEY'VE GOTTA HAVE ALL THAT SO I THINK IF YOU'RE GONNA TAKE A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT MAY BE ZONED SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN COMMERCIAL. IT'S NOT ZONE FOR THAT, I. I DON'T THINK WE ARE PERSONALLY I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO ALLOW IT AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA BE THE PROBLEM. I THINK I THINK HAVING THE EXEMPTION. FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY. I THINK WE JUST NEED TO KEEP IT SIMPLE. AND IF WE WANNA HAVE THAT YOU NEED A PERMIT. FOR EXCEPTIONS. MAYBE, UH UH, CONCERT. BUT IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE ON IT'S EITHER GONNA BE ON VILLAGE PROPERTY. AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET A PERMIT. OR IT'S GONNA BE ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. AND WHAT WE JUST FIND A CONCEPT. WE HAVE A CONCERT EVERY WEEK JUST ABOUT EVERY WEEKEND. RIGHT HERE AROUND 710 RIGHT HERE ON WARFIELD BOULEVARD ACROSS FROM THE, UH, MARATHON STATION AT THE CHURCH. THAT'S A CONCERT. I GOT A BAND OUT THERE AND THEY'RE THEY'RE

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DOING THEIR SPIRITUAL THING. BUT IT'S STILL A CONCERT. AND I CAN TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE. I'VE HAD TO GO THERE A FEW TIMES MYSELF AND TELL THEM TO TURN IT DOWN BECAUSE THEY GO LATE. AND PEOPLE COMPLAIN. BUT AS THE CHURCH FUNCTION AND WE'RE NOT GONNA STOP THEM FROM DOING THAT.

BUT, UM I THINK IN THE SPIRIT OF THE WHOLE THING UM. WE EXEMPT FROM FROM PRIVATE PROPERTY. I THINK WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING. I. I DON'T THINK THAT YOU KNOW, I COULD HAVE A PARTY AT MY HOUSE, A BIRTHDAY PARTY AND 100 AND TWO PEOPLE SHOW UP. YOU KNOW? I GOTTA GO GET A PERMIT.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT THAT'S KIND OF UNREASONABLE. I'M ONLY WRITING DOWN WHAT FOLKS GAVE SO YEAH. HOW YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT AND ONE THOUGHT AS WELL, UM YY YOU MAY WANNA THINK ABOUT IF THE CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW AT THE 100 SO ON IF YOU PERSUADED DIFFERENTLY IF IT WERE 500. I. I JUST WANNA I MEAN BIG BIG EVENTS. I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN AROUND THE STATE. WHEN CAUSE THERE ARE ORGANIZERS OF EVENTS OF ALL TYPES. THERE WON'T BE PEOPLE FROM AROUND HERE. THAT WHEN THEY WHEN THEY CATCH THAT SOME JURISDICTION. ALLOWS FOLKS TO JUST COME ON IN WITHOUT ANY ANYTHING AT ALL. THEY'LL WANDER IN FROM CENTRAL FLORIDA OR MIAMI DADE, OR WHAT HAVE YOU AND THEY'LL BE HERE. I'VE SEEN IT. I'VE SEEN IT A COUPLE OF MY CITIES AND THEN WE WERE DOING REAL QUICK REWRITES OF PARTS OF OUR SPECIAL EVENTS ORDINANCE. SO AGAIN, I I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR LOCKING DOWN THAT, YOU KNOW. LOOSEN IT UP. ABSOLUTELY. BUT I JUST WANNA BEFORE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, TRYING TO CATCH IT AND CLEAN IT UP LATER. I WANTED TO. I'M TRYING TO GET THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, UH, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE SOME, OF COURSE, AND WE'LL YOU KNOW? YEAH, IT WAS JUST, UM IT'S JUST LIKE YOU KNOW WE WERE TALKING, SPEAKING EARLIER ON THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW WHAT IF SOMEBODY DECIDES THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EVENT AND I'LL COME AND GET A PERMIT AND DO IT ANYWAYS. SO WE NEED TO HAVE PROVISIONS FOR THAT, AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PUT A BITE INTO IT, SO AND THERE ARE YOU KNOW, TO OUR ORDINANCE. AND TURN INTO A CRIMINAL. STATE STATUTE. YOU KNOW THAT THAT IF YOU PUT ON AN EVENT. AND YOU DON'T HAVE A PERMIT FOR IT. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN END UP GOING TO JAIL. SO I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF I DON'T KNOW. I JUST, UM EVERY TIME I REREAD IT, I'M THINKING ABOUT DIFFERENT STUFF, SO IT'S A COMPLICATED, COMPLICATED IT IS. SHE SHE WANTED TO SPEAK. OK, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. WE'RE NOT DONE SPEAKING JUST YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, WE'RE NOT DONE YET. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. YES, I JUST WANTED IT. AM I NOT GETTING SOMETHING RIGHT? AND HE SAID, LIKE BIRTHDAY PARTIES, BUT I DON'T SEE I SEE LIKE MAJOR EVENTS. AND YOU'RE NOT BIRTHDAY PARTIES, SO THAT WOULD BE NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BECAUSE SO THERE THERE IS. THERE IS LANGUAGE IN IN THE DEFINITION IN THIS NEW DEFINITION OF SPECIAL EVENT IN HERE. AND WE CAN BROADEN THIS EXCLUSION OR WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT, UH, THE SENTENCE. THIS DEFINITION EXCLUDES THAT EXCLUDES ACTIVITIES CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC. INCLUDING PRIVATE INDOOR FACILITY RENTALS, PAVE RENTALS OR OTHER ACTIVITIES FOR WHICH THE PERMIT HAS BEEN ISSUED BY THE VILLAGE AND ACTUALLY I THINK THAT PIECE CAN GET CLEANED UP AND OUT. BUT TH THIS IS ANOTHER VERY COMMON, UH MATTER THAT EVENTS THAT ARE NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. TYPICALLY ARE EXCLUDED, SO. I'M SURE YOU'RE VERY, VERY FRIENDLY MATTER ALL.

EVERYBODY'S YOUR FRIEND, BUT YOUR BIRTHDAY PARTY I WOULD SUGGEST WOULD BE A PRIVATE EVENT. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? UM SO, UH, SO VICE MAYOR. HAVE YOU GOT ANYTHING? YOU KNOW WHEN IT COMES IT'S A TRICKY SITUATION, YOU KNOW. US YOU KNOW, THE GU GUATEMALA COMMUNITY IS LIKE WE CELEBRATE ONE MORE DAY. YOU KNOW, WE BRING THE BODY TO THE HOUSE AND WE KEEP IT OVERNIGHT. AND WE SHOW UP. LIKE MY MOM'S NEIGHBOR THEY HAD OVER 200 PEOPLE. THEY PARKED RIGHT IN

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FRONT OF THE SCHOOL. BUT BUT THERE WAS NO PARKING HOW DO WE THIS IS FOR THIS IS FOR UH UH, A OF A FUNERAL. WAKE UH, THEY PARK ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD THEY USED TO WALKS THEY USE THE SCHOOL PARKING YOU KNOW THEY THEY THEY WERE THERE THE WHOLE ENTIRE NIGHT. HOW HOW DO YOU YEAH, IT THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE A PRIVATE EVENT, A PRIVATE EVENT. MAY. MAYBE THAT'S THE WORD I WE IT'S THERE. IT SAYS, YEAH, AND I'M GONNA I'M GONNA TUNE THAT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO I. I THINK I WOULD I WOULD OFFER AT LEAST ONE OF THE EXCLUSIONS. WOULD BE FOR EVENTS NOT OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. OKAY? EVERYBODY GOT IT. GOT IT OUT. OK, SO WHETHER IT BE A FUNERAL, A WAKE WHETHER IT BE A BIRTHDAY PARTY WEDDING. IF IT IS ON SOMEBODY'S PERSONAL PROPERTY.

THEY HAVE A 10 UP. THEY DON'T NEED A THEY DON'T NEED A PERMIT FOR A TENT LIKE THE, UH, WE'RE TALKING LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE SPECIAL EVENTS IN FRONT YARD GET YOU TENT PUT UP AND BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE AND JUST LIKE YOU'RE TALKING THE REVIVAL ON 710 THE CHURCH. THEY HAVE THOSE TENTS THAT THEY PUT UP WE'VE WE HAVE. WE'RE REQUIRED TENTS FOR THOSE CORRECT. I MEAN PERMITS FOR THOSE CORRECT. YEAH THEY THEY'RE SEPARATE SPECIAL EVENTS. APPLICATION HAS ONE AND 10 PERMITS AT ONE BECAUSE I HAD THAT HUGE CONFUSION, TOO. OK SO THE TENT PERMIT IS NOT COVERED BY THE SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT. DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT PERMIT. SO SOMEBODY IN THEIR YARD HAS TO HAVE A TENT PERMIT. FOR THEIR BIRTHDAY PARTY. UNDER YOUR GIVEN , DEPENDING ON THE SIZE AND UNDER YOUR GIVEN RULES AND REGULATIONS, YES. MMHM. AND THIS IS I. I KNOW THIS MATTER COME UP BEFORE I REMEMBER ALL THE GREAT DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT BEFORE THIS IS A MATTER THAT QUITE FRANKLY, I WAS HOPING TO REVISIT WITH OUR NEW BUILDING OFFICIAL WITH MARTIN COUNTY NOW TO TAKE THEIR POSITION ON IT. THE PRIOR POSITION OF STAFF WITH REGARD TO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR TENT PERMITS, AND SO ON. WAS DRIVEN BY SAFE BETS INTERPRETATION OF THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE. NOW.

WHEN THEY WALK ME THROUGH IT THAT THEIR POSITION WAS THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE MANDATED.

UH, A PERMIT BE ISSUED FOR TENTS OVER A CERTAIN SIZE. ALL RIGHT, FLORIDA BUILDING CODES OUT OF OUR HANDS. AND WHEN THEY WALK ME THROUGH IT, I VAGUELY BOUGHT IT, BUT I TOLD THEM YOU KNOW, NONE OF MY OTHER JURISDICTIONS REQUIRE IT. NONE OF MY OTHER BUILDING. NONE OF MY OTHER BUILDING OFFICIALS REQUIRE IT. EVEN THOUGH I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THEY SHOW ME THE PROVISION. I WAS LIKE, UH, OK. SO CAN I CAN I OFFER TO THAT POINT THAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT THAT ISSUE, I, I WANNA I WANNA REVISIT IT. FROM WHAT? WHAT THE MARTIN COUNTY BUILDING OFFICIALS. POSITION IS ON THAT POINT. OK, GOOD. FANTASTIC THANK YOU. SO THE TEMP PERMIT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. SO SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. UM WHETHER YOU HAVE 10 OR NOT OK ON PERSONAL PROPERTY, WHETHER WHATEVER IT MAY MAY BE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT. NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE A, UH, SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY. THEY HAVE THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A CONCERT OR WHATEVER IT IS. THAT WOULD BE A PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT IT WOULD BE LIKE A FOR PROFIT EVENT. ONE WOULD BE REQUIRED, EVEN THOUGH IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY. WE'RE STILL GONNA REQUIRE THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT . I'M DOING WHATEVER YOU GUYS TELL ME TO DO. OK WELL, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. YOU KNOW SOMEBODY ON THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY. THEY'RE GOING TO DO THIS HUGE MUSIC FESTIVAL THEN. OK THAT'S FOR PROFIT. SO YES, THAT UH UH, SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT APPLIES TO THAT. BECAUSE IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY IT'S FOR AND BUT UH, SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.

CHANGE TO JUST THE VILLAGE ROAD CLOSURES BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING A WAKE. THEY'RE NOT CLOSING A ROAD. OR OR ANY OF THAT, AND IT'S IN OUR HOME SO YOU DON'T WOULDN'T BE REQUIRED, UM SO KEEPING THAT KEEP IN MIND BY THE WAY. UNDER YOUR CURRENT SPECIAL EVENT. ORDINANCES BEEN IN EFFECT NOW FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. IT ENCOMPASSES ACTIVITY. ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. MM-HMM SO AND MOVE AWAY FROM THAT. THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. JUST GIVE ME DIRECTION. WE'LL MAKE IT SO BUT THAT IT. WE SHOULD NOT MOVE AWAY FROM IT. OH, I START. SAY YES. BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING YOUR WEDDINGS.

YOU'RE TALKING YOUR BIRTHDAY PARTIES. YOU'RE TALKING ALL THAT? YEAH. MOVE AWAY FROM IT,

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EXCEPT WHEN IT COMES TO FOR PROFIT. YOU GO OUT THERE AND YOU'RE GOING TO DO A MUSIC FESTIVAL ON YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY. THAT'S I THINK THAT'S DIFFERENT, BUT SOMETIMES FOR PROFITS. IT'S NOT A FOR PROFIT. IT'S A NONPROFIT. DOING A MUSIC FESTIVAL. SO IT'S A DOUBLE SWORD. III I ACTUALLY JUST WANTED TO ASK TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THE DISTINCTION.

I'M TRYING TO MAKE A DISTINCTION HERE, AND I'M NOT GETTING IT SO NO, NO, NO I. I UNDERSTAND. I I'M I'M THERE WAS THERE WAS MANY , UH WEEKS AGO NOW UP IN ORLANDO. A HUGE MUSIC FESTIVAL.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY PUT ON BY A 501 C FOUR. POLITICAL NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION. IT WAS A BIG IT WAS A BIG POLITICAL RALLY, ESSENTIALLY ALL SORTS OF STAGES, ALL SORTS OF THINGS. AND WHAT HAVE YOU UM THIS IS WHAT I'M TEASING OUT. I'M TRYING TO TEASE IT OUT HERE BEFORE WE'RE RUNNING AROUND SCRAMBLING TRYING TO YOU KNOW? CLEAN IT UP OR STOP IT LATER. SO, UM. JUST WANNA JUST WANT TO FIGURE OUT YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE. WRITING DOWN ON IT, SO YEAH. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 5 600 PEOPLE 1000 PEOPLE, RIGHT? I'M TALKING ABOUT LARGE. YEAH I'M TALKING ABOUT LARGE. SO WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? WHY DON'T WE MAKE IT? SO REQUIRING PERMIT. YOUR EXEMPT FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY. CHURCHES. UP TO WELL, THERE YOU GO AGAIN. WE CAN'T WE CAN'T DO IT. AND YOU'RE TALKING BUSINESSES HAVING A PRIVATE EVENT. SO WELL, I'M SO I'M SO SORRY. YOU HAVE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE A PRIVATE EVENT LIKE SCOTT DOWN THERE AT THE MARINA. HE PUTS UP THE AND HAS A HAS A YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEES AND FAMILY AND STUFF. BUT THEN THAT FALLS UNDER THE TENT THING SO WELL YEAH, THE RIGHT THAT'S IT, SO WHAT? I'VE HEARD PRIVATE EVENTS. OKAY, SO EVENTS NOT OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. PRIVATE PROPERTY. WHAT'S THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY? BUT WITH THE PRIVATE EVENT PRIVATE EVENT CAUSE YOU COULD INITIALLY YEAH. YEAH, BECAUSE SWAMP FESTS INITIALLY WAS LOOKING IN IT. IN DIFFERENT PIECES OF PROPERTY AS YOU HEARD EARLIER. AND THAT, BUT BUT IT WAS NOT CLOSED. CLOSED EVENT. RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY NOW WE'RE TALKING AND I TALKING ABOUT THE LAW, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE , UM, RESCUE SUPPORT AND, UM, THAT WHOLE REVIEW WE DO THAT NOW THAT'S A PART OF THE PROCESS NOW IS GOING TO THAT THAT EACH ONE OF THOSE IS, UM SO THIS IS I DON'T THINK THIS IS ANYTHING NEW. AND BECAUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT REVIEWS IT, UH, PRIOR RESCUE REVIEWS IT NOW TO SAY THAT THIS EVENT IS GOOD. WE REQUIRE THAT THAT'S A PART OF THE PROCESS WE HAVE NOW. SO IT'S BASICALLY SAYING THE SA ME WITHOUT IT'S SETTING A THRESHOLD OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE REQUIRING IT. SO, FOR INSTANCE. UM, IF SOMEBODY SAYS WELL, I DON'T THINK I NEED LAW ENFORCEMENT DETAIL. LAW ENFORCEMENT REVIEWS IT AND THEY COME BACK AND SAY YES, YOU DO. THEN WHAT RECOURSE? DO WE HAVE OTHER THAN TO DEEM THEM THEIR APPLICATION INCOMPLETE AND SAY, WELL, LAW ENFORCEMENT DISAGREES. THEY BELIEVE THEY SHOULD HAVE A DETAIL AND YOU NEED TO PAY FOR IT BEFORE YOUR APPLICATION IS APPROVED. AND I THOUGHT, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. YEAH, I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. WE HAVEN'T HAD THIS PROBLEM IN THE PAST. WE'VE HAD PEOPLE GETTING THE APPROPRIATE DETAIL FROM THE SHERIFF'S AT LEAST SO I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE YOU KNOW, THIS CAME UP LAST YEAR WITH THE TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS AND THEY DID HAVE SECURED THE SHERIFF DETAIL. UM BUT NOT, UH, THEY DID THE EMS 21 OF THEM.

I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. YEAH. BUT THIS IS THIS YEAR IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. OKAY, M. MAY YOUR YOU'RE CORRECT THAT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CURRENT ORDINANCE HAS INVOLVED GETTING AN EVALUATION AND GETTING, UH, PROPER, UH, AMOUNT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SO ON. THAT WAS AN EXTRAPOLATION OF SOME VERY GENERAL LANGUAGE. I THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE EXTRAPOLATION,

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BUT WE MADE IT. REALLY CRYSTAL CLEAR AND IN THIS LANGUAGE HERE OKAY. AND JUST KIND OF, UH, QUICKLY. NUMBER FIVE THE REVIEW AND ISSUANCE OF PERMIT. NOW WHEN THE PERMIT IS RECEIVED. IT IS NOT GIVEN TO THE VILLAGE. MANAGER AND THE MANAGER IS THE ONE THAT DETERMINES WHETHER IT'S BEEN COMPLETED OR NOT. SOMEBODY ELSE RECEIVES THAT AND DETERMINES. IF IT'S GOTTEN EVERYTHING, AND THEN IT WINDS UP WITH A VILLAGE MANAGER, CORRECT. NO, I MEAN WITHIN THIS HOW THIS IS. WHAT IS THE PROCESS? YOU HAD THE WAY THAT THIS IS WRITTEN. AND THEN IN, THE NEW ONE. NUMBER FIVE REVIEW AND ISSUANCE OF PERMITS. YEAH, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME OF THAT, UM AND I WAS JUST EXTRAPOLATING THAT, BUT WE PUT THAT EXPLICITLY. SO, UH, I. I HAD MENTIONED VAGUELY BEFORE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE MANAGER ACTS THROUGH HER EMPLOYEES AND SO ON. WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT EXPRESSLY IN HERE. THE DEFINITION OF VILLAGE MANAGER IS THE VILLAGE MANAGER OR THEIR DESIGNEE. SO WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS THE APPLICATION. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. UM THE APPLICATION GOES TO THE VILLAGE MANAGER'S OFFICE FOR REVIEW AND CONSULTATION HAS HAD WITH ALL OF THESE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS TO REVIEW IT. OKAY THE ULTIMATE FINAL DECISION MAKER IS THE VILLAGE MANAGER. ALL THE MOVING AROUND THAT PAPER, AND SO ON, IS GOING TO BE A STAFF PERSON OF THE VILLAGE MANAGER TO MAKE IT ALL HAPPEN. OKAY NOW, IF YOU THAT SAME PAGE ITEM SEE A LITTLE BIT ABOVE THAT. SPECIAL EVENT. SHE'LL BE BE HELD BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 9, A.M. AND SUNSET.

ONLY ON SATURDAY, SUNDAYS OR NATIONAL HOLIDAYS IS THAT SPECIAL EVENTS. ARE WE TALKING? BECAUSE THAT'S KINDA AFTER PARADES IS THAT ALL EVENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO END AT SUNSET.

SO THAT IS A AS I MENTIONED A LOT OF WHAT WE WERE INTEGRATING IN HERE AND AGAIN. THIS IS JUST FOR YOU GUYS TO TEAR UP AND PUT BACK TOGETHER. THIS WAS IN THE DRAFT THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN DEPALO HAD PROVIDED SO THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS CURRENTLY. PLEASE TELL ME SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND WE'LL MAKE IT SO AS OF RIGHT NOW , THIS IS DIRECTED TO SPECIAL EVENTS WOULD BE YEAH. CONFINED TO THESE HOURS, EXCEPT WHERE, UH, FOR GOOD CAUSE SHOW THE VILLAGE MANAGER AUTHORIZES A DIFFERENT TIME. YEAH. WELL, I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE ANY RESTRAINTS ON IT. WE CAN TAKE THAT WHOLE PARAGRAPH OUT. YEAH, WELL, I, I WAS JUST THINKING AND I GUESS THE VILLAGE DOESN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE A HUGE AREA FOR A BIG VENUE OR A BIG, UM A BIG BECAUSE OUT THERE TIME OR POWER PARK. YOU KNOW THE RODEO THAT THEY HAVE OR OR ANY OTHER EVENT LIKE FIREWORKS OR WHATEVER IT IS. IT DOESN'T END AT SUNSET.

YOU HAVE AND YOU HAVE THE LIGHTS OUT THERE AND THEY, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S A BUT SEE THAT'S A THAT'S A BETTER, YOU KNOW, 500 PEOPLE OR MORE. THAT'S A MAJOR EVENT AND GETTING BACK TO THAT MAJOR EVENT THING. UM ON A MAJOR EVENT WHEN YOU HAVE 500 PEOPLE OR MORE, AND YOU'RE STILL GONNA STAY WITH THE 30 DAYS PRIOR. IT WOULDN'T TAKE MORE TIME FOR A LARGER EVENT TO GO THROUGH. THE PROCESS AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS DONE BECAUSE I KNOW I THINK IT'S MARTIN COUNTY, A MAJOR EVENT THAT ROSA CLOSES ROADS AND DOES THIS, THAT OR THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, TRIGGERS ALL THESE THINGS. IT'S GOTTA BE IN SIX MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME. WELL, THEY'VE GOT TO GET ALL THE PAPERWORK. SUBMITTED WITH THIS APPLICATION. SO IF THEY SECURED ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE NEEDED TO, AND THEY'VE GOTTEN THE RIGHT PERMITS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IT SHOULD BE A COMPLETE PACKAGE. SO TURNING IT AROUND SHOULDN'T BE THE ISSUE. IT'S JUST MAKING SURE FOLKS UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU'VE GOT TO GET THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, YOU MAY NEED 45 DAYS TO DO THAT.

RIGHT AND ALSO THAT 30 DAYS BECAUSE, UH, ON ANY EVENT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, THE EVENT HOLDER. IS GOING TO BE ADVERTISING WELL AHEAD OF THAT 30 DAYS. SO IF YOU'RE JUST TURNING INAT 30 DAYS AND THEN THEY'VE GOT FIVE DAYS TO REVIEW IT OR 10 DAYS OR WHATEVER. AND IF IT'S DENIED YOU'RE GETTING IN 20 DAYS BEFORE THE EVENT, AND THEN IT THERE'S ALL THIS ADVERTISING THAT'S BEEN BEEN DONE BEFORE THE EVENT, SO THE TIMING IS KIND OF TRICKY THERE.

WELL, MAYOR WHAT I WAS GONNA I HAVE NOT SHARED MY COMMENTS WITH UH, MR VOS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GONNA RECOMMEND WAS THAT IT BE NO LESS THAN 30 DAYS. RIGHT BUT NO MORE THAN 365 AND I THINK THAT WAS IN THE CITY OF PORT SAINT LUCIE. SO YOU COULD IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE

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HAVING YOUR EVENT A YEAR AHEAD, YOU KNOW? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. YEAH, RIGHT. RIGHT RIGHT IN A ROW, GET IT APPROVED WITHIN 30 DAYS AND THEN START ADVERTISING. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, OK, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. UM AND I. I DO AGREE WITH HAVING IT YOU KNOW, UP TO TH 365 DAYS. BUT WHAT ABOUT SO YOU HAVE A LIST OF STUFF THAT YOU NEED, AND ONE OF THE THINGS IS THE OFFICERS. MARIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOES NOT. I'VE TRIED ACTUALLY HAVE ALL MY THINGS UNTIL DECEMBER WITH THEIR ENGAGEMENTS, BUT THEY DON'T ACCEPT THEM UNTIL, LIKE A CERTAIN TIME, SO I USUALLY DO IT 3045 DAYS BEFOREHAND AND SEND THEM AN EMAIL WITH MY APPLICATION, AND SOMETIMES THEY'LL SAY, AH, IT'S TOO EARLY FOR ME TO PROCESS IT SO AND THAT CIRCUMSTANCE CAN AN AVOCATION BE DENIED BECAUSE IT'S NOT. THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN A CONFIRMATION FROM, YOU KNOW. FROM MARTIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE BECAUSE THEY DON'T GO AWAY IN THAT MAN LIKE THEY GO. I THINK THE MAX IS 3030 BETWEEN 3045 DAYS IS THE MAX BECAUSE IN JANUARY I ACTUALLY SUBMITTED MY WHOLE LIST. OF THINGS UNTIL DECEMBER, AND I GOT AN EMAIL SAYING SORRY, BUT I CAN ONLY DO YOUR JANUARY ENGAGEMENT. AND SO I HAD TO GO AND PRINT AN INDIVIDUAL FOR EACH ONE FOR LIKE FEBRUARY FOR APRIL FOR JUNE FOR JULY. SO LIKE CAN THAT BE SOMETHING THAT THAT'S WHY WE'RE GONNA REWRITE IT. SO COUNCIL MEMBER? UH, DO YOU? DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS AS TO WHAT? WE COULD MAKE IT? UH, YOU YOU YOU MENTIONED THAT IF YOU EVEN ASK THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TOO EARLY, THEY'LL SAY WE CAN'T EVEN LOOK AT THIS RIGHT NOW. YEAH TO MISTER MCDONALD. UM, WAS THE ONE THAT CALLED ME AND TOLD ME THANKS, BUT WE DON'T GO IN THAT ROOM. WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE THE SHERIFF THEN TAKES THAT AND POSTS IT AS A SPECIAL DETAIL FOR THE DEPUTIES, AND THEY DON'T KNOW. A YEAR IN ADVANCE, OR, YOU KNOW, UNTIL MAYBE A MONTH IN ADVANCE, WHETHER WHO ALL'S GOING TO VOLUNTEER TO DO THAT DETAIL, SO IF WE HAVE, LIKE, AT LEAST AN EMAIL CONFIRMING THAT, YOU KNOW THAT WILL DO IT. YEAH. YEAH, I'M TRY. I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT? UH, CAUSE THIS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE A WHOLE COMPLETE APPLICATION, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE ONE THING THAT JUST PENDING AND YOU CAN HAVE SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T KNOW THAT'S LOOKING AT THE AND DENY. JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT COMPLETE, YOU KNOW? YOU GOTTA LOOK AT THE CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE I'VE NOW LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND MICROSCOPE VERY WELL BE BECAUSE BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT THE, UM WHAT THE PRACTICES OF MARTIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE ARE ON THIS ISSUE. WE OUGHT TO JUST RIGHT TO ADDRESS THAT SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE COULD, UM AND I CAN GET YOU, UM BY TOMORROW. UH, HOW MUCH IN ADVANCE THEY THEY NEED AN ENGAGEMENT. UM OR HOW MUCH IN ADVANCE THEY THEY CAN POST AN ENGAGEMENT. WE COULD WE COULD TAKE OUT, UM, THEIR HAVING GOTTEN PRIOR APPROVAL, ESSENTIALLY FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS A REQUIREMENT, UH AND JUST RESTATE IT. OR LEAVE IT AS STATED THAT THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO STAFF IT AT THE LEVEL. UH, THAT'S SPECIFIED AND THEN MAKE IT BASICALLY A AN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT THAT UM UH, THAT THEY MAKE APPLICATION FOR IT AND PROVIDE, UH, CONFIRMATION. YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO THE VILLAGE, YOU KNOW, AFTER RECEIVE A CONFIRMATION. YOU KNOW SOMETHING SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT BECAUSE WE CAN'T CONTROL WHAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOES IN IN DEALING WITH SPECIAL DETAILS, SO WE NEED TO WORK AROUND THAT. OK? GOT IT. THANK YOU. EVERYBODY TALKED OUT. I STARTED SAID DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES. MR JUAN CARLOS LASSO. GOOD EVENING. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS IN A UH, MY NAME IS JUAN CARLO LASA AND I DO WORK FOR HOLY CROSS FOR AS A PARIS MANAGER IN AS A DAIRY DIRECTOR RELIGIOUS EDUCATION PROGRAM. IN. UM I KNOW. YOU FOR MANY YEARS AND I AM VERY THANKFUL FOR KNOWING THE COMMUNITY AND KNOWING THE EVENTS OF THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT IT SOMETHING SO

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IMPORTANT FOR THE GUATEMALAN PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN ONE EVENT, A NIGHT EVENT, BRINGING THE BODY TO THE HOUSE WHEN YOU ARE NOT AWARE ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO RESPECTFUL ABOUT THAT. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. IN. UH, IN. THINKING ABOUT THAT THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO REQUEST A PERMIT FOR THAT EVENT BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE EVENT IN THIS ONE NIGHT. THAT'S IT. RIGHT. AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT FOR BRINGING THAT BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ALSO TO GO TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM WE HAD DISCUSSED ABOUT THIS AND I WENT THROUGH ALL OF THIS IN IN IN SAYING THANK YOU.

BECAUSE THE IT'S A LOT. I MEAN THE DEFINITION OF MAJOR EVENT OR UH, A SMALL EVENT. UH, YOU HAVE TO RECONSIDER. ALL OF THE THINGS THAT TONIGHT. YOU HAVE SAID THAT IN A IN IN FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE WHOLE, THE COMMUNITY. FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANKS FOR OUR GOOD FRIDAY EVENT. IF YOU HEAR THE FEEDBACK? WORK IT OUT SO WELL, WE CLEAR AND WE MAINTAIN OUR ROADS. AH, EVEN THE PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, CAME TO THE E TO THE PROCESSION. UH BUT, UH, THAT WAS A BEAUTIFUL AND MEANINGFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY . AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT , AND EVERYTHING WORKED OUT SO WELL. SECONDLY, I SAY THANKS. AS WELL FOR, UH, BRINGING THIS DRAFT FOR REVISION AND SPECIAL EVENTS, REGULATION AND PROPOSAL OR SO WORTHY. THAT WE HAD TO WORK IT OUT. ESPECIALLY THAT WORDING. UH, IN MANY CHANGES VERY NEEDED FOR NOT ONLY FOR US, BUT FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY FOR WHAT YOU ARE WORKING FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. AND WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT AND WE WELCOME THAT AND PROBABLY WILL BE MORE EVENTS COMING THROUGH ALL OF THESE CONSTRUCTIONS. WHO KNOWS? YOU KNOW THIS IS GOING TO GROWING AND GROWING AND GROWING AND WHAT ELSE ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? UM THAT, UH, SOME SUGGESTION ON THE DRAFT LIKE REDUCING THE NUMBER OF THE DAYS OR I WROTE IT DOWN. NOW I THINK THAT 360 DAYS HAS TO BE CONSIDERED IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN PREPARATION FOR A GREAT EVENT THAT YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO ADVERTISE FOR SIX MONTHS IN ADVANCE, OR OR NINE MONTHS IN ADVANCE IN IN THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WHAT ABOUT IT WILL BE DENIED YOU. YOU'VE GOT TO THAT ISSUE. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. UH, BUT I, UH I HIT ABOUT THAT, UM BUT WE HAD TO CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE INVESTING A LOT OF MONEY IN THE IN PRIVATE THINGS THAT YOU BROUGHT IT UP. IT HAS TO BE KEPT PRIVATE PERIOD. UH, ALSO GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR APPEALING. THAT WAS THE ISSUE THAT HAPPENED LAST TIME APPEALING AND I DO REALLY REALLY? YOU DIDN'T NAME IT THAT TONIGHT? THE APPEALING, UH OF THIS AND YOU CONSIDER THAT IN UM PERVIS MUST BE EASY WHEN THE EVENT DOES NOT INVOLVE A LOT OF RISK. OR CROSSING FOR LONG PERIOD TIME. THE STREETS HOURS IS AN HOUR AND A HALF PERIOD IS A PROCESSION A RELIGIOUS PROCESSION AND WE DON'T SPEND MORE THAN AN HOUR AND A HALF IN ALWAYS THE SAME ROUTE THE ROUTE SO IN SPECIAL WORD IN LIKE ON RELIGIOUS PROCESSION HAS TO BE INCORPORATED IN THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT FOR SPECIAL EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE MOST IMPORTANT FOLLOWING WITH THE RULES TO THE EVENTS. WE DO FOLLOW THE RULES WE GO. YOU ALREADY WITH THE OFFICERS, UH AND YOU KNOW ABOUT THE REALITY OF THE OFFICERS TODAY. HOW HOW DIFFICULT IS TO GET THE OFFICERS YOU KNOW, COVERING. YOU WERE OFFICERS AND COVERED IN THIS AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. SOMETIMES YOU DON'T FIND AN OFFICER AVAILABLE. SO WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU DO WE DO HAVE TO HAVE A PRIVATE UM PEOPLE WHO COVERED THE EVENT. FOR INSTANCE, WE DO HAVE A MANAGER NOW IN OUR, UH IN OUR, UM SPECIAL. UH UM PIRATES HALL. WE DO HIRE A MANAGER IN THE MANAGER . TAKE CARE ABOUT EVERYTHING OVER THERE IN OUR ARE WE WRAPPING IT UP? YEAH I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. BUT THEY TOOK A LITTLE MORE OF THE TIME FOR THIS. I'M GOING TO FINISH WITH THIS. LASTLY PLEASE BE MORE EASY ON PEOPLE PLACING AN OVERNIGHT SMALL TENT. YEAH, WE COVER ABOUT THAT THINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I THINK THAT EMS HAS TO BE, UH, SHE BROUGHT IT OUT A ALREADY ABOUT THAT. AND I THINK THAT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THE NEXT IS MISS KAREN ON TIGER. BECAUSE FORGOTTEN. JUST LIKE IN. UM I'M KAREN ONSAGER. UH I WAS JUST GONNA STATE THAT I THINK THAT ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT YOU

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COULD DO FOR THE PRIVATE PARTIES THAT CAN TURN INTO MUSIC THAT'S LIKE COCO CHOBY IS IF THEY'RE CHARGING A FEE. TO GET IN. YOU NEED A PERMIT. YOU CHARGE A FEE TO GET IN IF YOU'RE SELLING A TICKET NOT TAKING DONATIONS. NOT YOU KNOW THAT KIND OF STUFF THAT THE CHURCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT NONPROFIT. THINGS WERE TAKING DONATIONS AND EVEN REALLY NOT ON THE POLITICAL STUFF, YOU KNOW, LIKE I MEAN, EVEN FOR YOU COULD HAVE 500 PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR YOUR PARTY AND I WANNA GIVE YOU MONEY THAT SHOULDN'T BE PERMITTED. BUT IF SOMEBODY'S TELLING TICKETMASTER TICKETS LIKE THEY DO FOR OKEECHOBEE AND YOU KNOW THAT JUST I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WAY. ALL THAT. THE PRIVATE PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, I WANNA IF I WANNA THROW MY SON'S WEDDING, WHICH I DID. LAST JANUARY. I DON'T WANT I PROBABLY HAVE SO UM, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A VERY SIMPLE ANSWER. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO COME IN ABOUT IS THE 30 DAYS. 30 DAYS GOES BY REALLY FAST, GUYS.

CONSIDER 45. MAYBE UM, IT WOULD STILL LESS THAN THE AMOUNT OF TIME BUT IT WOULD ALSO FALL INTO 30 DAYS. LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, 30 DAYS AGO WAS SO FAST. SO UH, MAYBE JUST TO TAKE A LITTLE PRESSURE OFF OF YOU BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE AS THE COMMUNITY IS GROWING. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AND I THINK YOU TRYING TO TURN THINGS AROUND IN 30 DAYS. IT'S GONNA BE SUPER TOUGH FOR THE STAFF. SO MAYBE CONSIDERATION. ANYWAY. THANK YOU AND YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME.

ANYMORE. NO, MA'AM. SO THAT WAS A DISCUSSION ITEM. WE DISCUSSED IT SO COULD I ASK A QUESTION OR TWO? BASED ON WHAT I HEARD? I KNOW I WANT TO DRIVE HOME TOO. BUT, UM UH, SO A COUPLE COUPLE THINGS I HEARD BECAUSE THIS IS ONE I PUT IN. BUT I WAS KIND OF SQUIRRELY ON IT. THE MATTER ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS ONLY HELD BETWEEN 9 A.M. AND SUNSET. IN ALL INSTANCES, AND SO ON. I IF THERE'S ANY WHAT'S THAT IS THE ABILITY FOR AN EXCEPTION? YEAH. YEAH. I'D WELCOME ANY THOUGHTS.

WHAT? UH AS LONG AS THEY'RE I DON'T NECESSARILY LIKE EXCEPTIONS BECAUSE THAT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE. HOWEVER. IF IT ALLOWS FOR IT. VERY GOOD. THE, UM NOW LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

THAT'S THAT, UH, EXCEPTION IS MADE AT STAFF LEVEL AND DOES NOT HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

CORRECT, OK? THE ONLY EVENT THAT I CAN THINK OF IS THE CHRISTMAS PARADE. I MEAN, SO YOU COULD. IF YOU DON'T WANT THE EXCEPTIONS IN THERE, WE COULD. SAY. EXCEPT FOR AN ANNUAL PARADE. YEAH I HOWEVER YOU WANNA WORD THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT I KNOW THAT BUT THAT MIGHT THAT MIGHT CHANGE. SO IF YOU JUST LEAVE IT UP AND STAFF IS GONNA BE IN CHARGE OF THAT THEN. THE, UM ALL RIGHT. SO, UH, I, I THINK I HEARD UNIVERSAL CONSENSUS. PRIVATE EVENTS OF ALL SORTS. CLARIFY THIS. PRIVATE EVENTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. RIGHT SO YOUR WEDDING WITH WITH 500 PEOPLE, YOUR BIRTHDAY PARTY WITH 500 PEOPLE. WHAT HAVE YOU IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

HER TO SUGGESTION FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT TICKETED EVENTS ARE CHARGING ADMISSION AND SO ON. I THINK THAT IS A USEFUL CRITERIA. UM. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT, OR LET IT COOK FOR ANOTHER ROUND. SHE WAS A SEPARATE ISSUE THAT'S COMING AROUND GOOD, OK? AND LET LET LET ME JUST ASK, UM, WHERE YOU'D LIKE THIS TO GO NEXT. UM, AFTER WORKING THROUGH THIS WOULD YOU? LIKE US TO MAKE SOME REVISIONS BASED ON THE DISCUSSION YOU HAVE AND BRING BACK TO YOU OR SEND IT TO PZAB TO GET BEAT UP. IT COULD GO EITHER WAY. WE'RE GONNA MEET AGAIN RIGHT BEFORE PGA V. UH, YES, BECAUSE THEY CANCELED MAY BECAUSE THE REGULAR MAY MAY 9TH MEETING. I'D LIKE TO SEE IT.

COME BACK TO US. SURE. OH I WAS GONNA SAY TO L PC A BE TAKE A SWIPE AT IT BECAUSE THERE'S TOTAL TO YEAH, TO TOTALLY DIFFERENT, UH, PERSPECTIVE AND, YOU KNOW, LET HIM TAKE A SWIPE AT IT BEFORE WE GET IT, SO THEY MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT. UM DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS, SO WE'RE SPLIT 22. UM LET LET LET ME MAKE IT A SUGGESTION. IT'S GONNA GO TO PZAB IN ANY EVENT.

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UM SO EVEN IF IT COMES TO US, THEN IT'LL GO TO PC A B, AND THEN WE'LL GET IT BACK. SO WHAT? I WHAT I WAS, WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST IS, UM YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO NARROW YOUR FOCUS A LITTLE BIT. BY THE WAY, THIS THIS DEBATE DISCUSSION. ABOUT PRIVATE PROPERTY. IS ONE I'VE HAD IN FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT CITIES. THIS IT'S AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION. SO II I WOULD OFFER TO YOU THAT I THINK THE NEXT TIME YOU TALK ABOUT IT, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO REFINE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE SO WE COULD COME BACK TO YOU ALL AND THEN IT CAN GO TO PC A B? UH, PROBABLY WITH A MORE UH, FOCUSED, NARROW DISCUSSION. UH, NEXT TIME IT COMES TO YOU. SO COME BACK CLARIFICATION. IT WILL COME TO THE COUNCIL FIRST. OR WILL IT GO TO PC A B FIRST? IF IT'S IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH THE COUNCIL, I THINK WE BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL. FIRST TO SEE YOU CAN TAKE ONE OTHER LITTLE LOOK ON NARROWING ISSUES. THEN IT'LL GO TO PC, A SOUNDS LIKE PLANTS.

EVERYBODY. SO THEN I LOST MY AGENDA. UH, SO WE ARE NEXT IN ANNOUNCEMENTS. YES, MA'AM. OUR

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

NEXT FOOD DRIVE IS MAY 9TH. UH, WE'LL START A T EIGHT. S LOCATION IS ALWAYS NOW WE ARE OFFICIALLY THE SECOND THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH. AND THE SA ME LOCATION IS ALWAYS IS. WHERE IS THAT AT THE CORNER OF FARMS ROAD AND MLK OKEY DOKEY. OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING WILL BE HELD ON

[NEXT REGULAR MEETING (ANNOUNCE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION)]

THURSDAY, MAY THE NINTH 630 SEE, THERE ARE B SQUARE AND WE STAND ADJOURNED.

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