Oct 26, 2023 Regular Meeting

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EVERY READY. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. WELCOME TO THIS VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN.

[CALL TO ORDER]

YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES, PLEASE. WHEN YOU STEP UP TO THE MIKE, MAKE SURE IT'S ON SPEAK INTO IT, AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. ALSO YOUR CELL PHONES. COULD YOU PLEASE MUTE CELLPHONES AND ALSO YOUR LAPTOPS? IF WE COULD HAVE THOSE MUTED. I THINK THAT IT'S GETTING SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT. ALSO CIVILITY IS PRACTICED IN OUR MEETINGS BY THE PUBLIC AND THE COUNCIL ALIKE. THE INDICATION THIS EVENING. IS GOING TO BE GIVEN BY THE NEW PASTOR OF FAMILY WORSHIP CENTER RAEF LAMB. I GREW UP IN INDIAN TOWN. HE'S WELCOME BACK. WELCOME BACK IF YOU WOULD COME AND EVERYBODY REMAINS STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE. FATHER WE JUST THANK YOU. FOR THIS DAY. WE THANK YOU FOR A TIME THAT WE CAN COME AND MEET AND GET THINGS OF OUR AFFAIRS IN ORDER, LORD, AND WE LOOK TO YOU, LORD, OUR LORD, THE ONE WHO IS KING ABOVE ALL KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, LORD, AND YOU DIRECT OUR PAST LORD, AND I JUST LIFT UP THIS COUNCIL LORD IN THIS GATHERING, LORD JESUS THAT WE CAN BE LIKE MINDED AND UNIFIED UNDER THE BANNER OF WHAT IS GOOD IN THE EYES OF THIS COMMUNITY AND GOOD IN THE EYES OF THE LORD. AND WE JUST ASK YOU FOR ALL GRACE WORD JESUS AND MERCY AS WE WALK FORWARD IN THIS COMMUNITY, LORD TOGETHER AND ULTIMATELY, LORD JESUS, WE JUST ASK YOU, LORD, THAT YOU HAVE YOUR WAY IN OUR LIVES INDIVIDUALLY IN THE LIVES OF THOSE IN THIS COMMUNITY, LORD JESUS THAT YOU BRING US UNDER THE UNITED NAME OF CHRIST, LORD JESUS, THAT ALL OF US WILL BE IN HEAVEN. ONE DAY, LORD. SO WE HONOR YOU. WE LOVE YOU. AND WE THANK YOU FOR THIS MEETING. BLESS EVERYONE THAT'S HERE, LORD AND HAVE YOUR WAY IN THIS TIME IN JESUS'S NAME. AMEN. AMEN.

[ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, PULLED ITEMS OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS]

JUST A SLIGHT MADAM MAYOR. WE HAVE TWO ORDINANCES UNDER THE FIRST READING ORDINANCE. WE'RE JUST GOING TO FLIP THOSE TWO. SO SIX IS SEVEN AND SEVEN OR SIX. YES, MA'AM. I'M SURE YOU'LL HELP HIM. MAN REMINDS ME OF THAT. IT DOESN'T. OKAY MOVING ON TO PROCLAMATIONS OF WORDS AND

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Introduction of the Griffin Group, Lobbyist for the Village of Indiantown

AND DEREK, I THINK. OKAY, WE CAN SEE YOU AND HEAR YOU. GOOD EVENING.

WE SEE YOU. WE HAD HIM FOR A SECOND.

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VARIETY OF WORK. YES. PARENTS. WE WORK WITH. FOR QUITE A WHILE. AGO. ONE. IN WHICH WATER. AND THE $5 MILLION.

FOR QUITE A LOT. DO I. WITH THAT. THAT WAS AS WELL AS THE APP.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN MAKING, UM, ON BEHALF OF INDIAN TOWN IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, IT, UM THEY WERE FRUITFUL AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE APPRECIATE. WE LOOK FORWARD TO IN THE NEXT COMING SESSION. YOUR EFFORTS ON OUR BEHALF ONCE AGAIN. HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THAT'S GOOD. OKAY MOVING ON TO OUR SECOND PRESENTATION.

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Introduction of Representatives from Sedron Technologies and Additional Information on Their Proposed Joint Project with the Village

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OKAY, BUT I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH KIND OF A HISTORY ON OUR SORRY I'M GETTING TO THAT. NEXT SO I'M STANLEY JANICKI. I'M THE CHIEF REVENUE OFFICER, ETCETERA TECHNOLOGIES, SO I REALLY LEAD IT AT A HIGH LEVEL WITH A MUCH LARGER TEAM. THE DEPLOYMENT OF THESE PROJECTS. SO WHAT I'M GONNA GO THROUGH IS A LITTLE HISTORY ON WHO IS, SAID RIN ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE. HOW DO WE KIND OF COME INTO EXISTENCE? AND THEN LITTLE TOPIC ON THE TECHNOLOGIES WE'VE DEVELOPED. AND THEN SPECIFICS ON EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO HERE AT INDIAN TOWN , SO WE'LL WALK THROUGH THAT. IT SHOULD BE PRETTY QUICK PRESENTATION AND HOPEFULLY FUN SO QUICK BACKGROUND, THE COMPANY WERE ACTUALLY A SPIN OFF OF A LARGE AEROSPACE COMPANY, JANNIK INDUSTRIES THAT MY FATHER FOUND IN THE EARLY 19 NINETIES, THIS COMPANY HAS ABOUT 1300 EMPLOYEES BASED OUT OF SEATTLE, LARGE SCALE CUSTOM PARTS AND TOOLING FOR THE AEROSPACE INDUSTRY. THE LOCATION OF SEATTLE, THE NATURAL PROXIMITY TO THE BILL AND MELINDA GATES FOUNDATION, OF COURSE, ENDED UP DOING SOME WORK WITH THEM SOME CUSTOM ENGINEERING AND SPENT OFF THIS COMPANY, SAID JOHN TECHNOLOGIES IN 2014 TO FOCUS ON DEVELOPING SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGIES FOR THEM FOR DEVELOPING COUNTRIES. MADE A NUMBER OF SYSTEMS FOR THEM AND THEN REALIZED THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY A HUGE PROBLEM IN DEVELOPED COUNTRIES LIKE THE US THIS SORT OF WASTE PROCESSING WORLD. SO WE'VE SINCE GROWN A WONDERFUL COMPANY OVER 200 EMPLOYEES, ETCETERA AND GROWING VERY RAPIDLY. ANOTHER FEW QUICK THINGS HERE ON GENIC INDUSTRIES. JUST HERE'S THE VIDEO OF MY DAD.

ACTUALLY DRINKING POOP WATER WITH BILL GATES FROM ONE OF OUR SYSTEMS, SO THAT'S A FUN VIDEO.

GOOGLE BILL GATES IN THE POOP WATER. IT'S A FUN VIEW. OTHER COOL THINGS WE WORK ON. DO A LOT OF WORK HERE. ACTION ON THE ON THE SPACE COAST WITH NASA BLUE ORIGIN. SPACEX, ALL SORTS OF GROUPS AS WELL IN THE AEROSPACE WORLD. BUT ONTO, SAID RON AND THE PROBLEMS WERE ACTUALLY WORKING TO SOLVE IN FLORIDA AND ELSEWHERE. SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS FROM BIOSOLIDS THAT I WANT TO WALK THROUGH. AND WHAT WASTEWATER IN GENERAL. ONE IS, OF COURSE, THE NUTRIENT LOADING OF WASTEWATER. THE QUALITY OF BIOSOLIDS PRODUCED FROM WASTEWATER TREATED THE NUTRIENT POLLUTION. FROM THOSE VIALS, SOLIDS AND FROM THOSE NEW NUTRIENT LOADING AT THOSE PLANTS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS FROM WASTE WATER AND OTHER INDUSTRIES. I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE PROJECT WE'RE DEVELOPING HERE KIND OF WORKS TO SOLVE MANY OF THOSE THINGS, AND SO WE'LL DRIVE THROUGH THEM. SO SAID JOHN AFTER DEVELOPING THESE TECHNOLOGIES FOR THE FOUNDATION, WE DEVELOPED OUR OWN TECHNOLOGY WITH OUR OWN FUNDS THAT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON SOLVING AND THAT'S THE BAR COURSE SYSTEM. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OPERATING ON BIOSOLIDS IN SOUTH SEATTLE. THIS REALLY YOU CAN THINK OF JUST TAKING VARIOUS WASTEWATER STREAMS SUCH AS SEPTIC BIOSOLIDS FOG PORTER PARTY WASTE THAT SORT OF WASTE AND PRODUCING THREE PRODUCTS. A DRY SOLID CLASS DOUBLE A PRODUCT. BIO ZONE. AN AQUARIUS AMMONIA FERTILIZER, CONCENTRATED PRECISION PLANT AVAILABLE FERTILIZER AND THEN CRYSTAL CLEAR CLEAN. AND WE'LL SEE EXAMPLES OF THESE PRODUCTS. BUT IT DOES IT IN A VERY ENERGY EFFICIENT MANNER, USING MECHANICAL VAPOR, COMPRESSION AND DISTILLATION. YOU CAN IMAGINE A NORMAL EVAPORATIVE SYSTEM OR A DRYER IS THE GRAPH ON THE RIGHT AND OUR SYSTEM IS THE GRAPH ON THE LEFT. AND THIS IS ACTUALLY BASED ON EMPIRICAL DATA FROM OUR SYSTEM OPERATING IN SEATTLE. WE ALSO HAVE SYSTEMS IN INDIANA AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WISCONSIN THIS IS THE WATER THAT COMES OUT OF IT. SO IN THIS INSTANCE IT WAS DAIRY MANURE FIVE MINUTES BEFORE THIS VISUAL THESE ARE THE SOLIDS. THEY'RE DRY. THEY CAN BE USED AS A FERTILIZER. BUT OUR PLAN IS ACTUALLY TO USE THEM IN CEMENT KILLS. THERE'S A NUMBER OF LARGE CEMENT KILNS HERE IN FLORIDA, AND IT HAS THE SAME ENERGY CONTENT IS COLD SO IT CAN DISPLACE THE USE OF FOSSIL FUELS SUCH AS COAL TO MAKE THAT CEMENT OF COURSE, THAT'S P FOST DESTRUCTION IN THAT PROCESS. AND THEN THE CREASE. AMMONIA, NITROGEN FERTILIZER, SO HIGHLY CONCENTRATED, PLANT AVAILABLE PRODUCT SO NOW WE CAN ACTUALLY STILL PROVIDE THE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY THE NUTRIENTS THEY WANT IN A PRECISION TARGETED WAY , WHILE ACTUALLY REMOVING THE PHOSPHORUS THAT'S CAUSING SO MUCH OF THE POLLUTION THAT WE'RE SEEING IN ALGAE BLOOMS IN SUCH THINGS. I WANT TO WALK THROUGH A COUPLE EXAMPLES SITES THAT WERE ACTUALLY OPERATING RIGHT NOW. THIS IS NOT THIS IS A NEW RISKY VENTURE, RIGHT? THIS IS ACTUALLY VERY WELL ESTABLISHED SITES UNDER THAT ARE ACTUALLY OPERATIONAL AND OPERATIONAL FOR YEARS. THIS IS A SYSTEM IN INDIANA OPERATING ON DAIRY WASTE. THIS IS A SYSTEM HERE IN SEATTLE, OPERATING ON ABOUT SOLID WASTE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CLASS DOUBLE A BOND HOLDERS PERMIT IN SEATTLE FOR THAT, OR THE EQUIVALENT IN WASHINGTON STATE. THIS IS A SYSTEM THAT WE ACTUALLY WAS WORKING IN THE U. S VIRGIN ISLANDS ON LIQUOR WASTE, SAME TECHNOLOGY. THIS YEAR IS A VERY LARGE SYSTEM 20,000 COWS WORTH OF WASTE IN INDIANA. UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE FINAL STAGES OF ASSEMBLE, YOU KNOW. AND THIS YEAR IS A

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THIS IS OUTSIDE DOLLARS. PRIVATE DOLLARS COMING IN AND PROVIDING A REVENUE SOURCE OF BOTH FROM A TAX BASE AND FROM A JOB BASE FOR THE TIME. AND OF COURSE, WE'RE PRODUCING A RENEWABLE NITROGEN FERTILIZER, SO THERE'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT THERE. AND, OF COURSE, WE'RE PRODUCING A RENEWABLE FUEL THAT CAN BE USED TO REDUCE THE CARBON INTENSITY. OF CEMENT IN FLORIDA.

SO THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S TIME AND, OF COURSE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS IF THERE AREN'T WELL, I THINK, STANLEY RIGHT NOW, THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING AS A VILLAGE IS THAT THEY WOULD BE LEASING THE PROPERTY FROM THE VILLAGE. UM, WE WOULD CARVE OUT A SECTION OF THE WASTEWATER PLANT SITE. AND SO THERE WOULD BE A LEASE INVOLVED SO THE VILLAGE WOULD BE GETTING AN INCOME FROM THAT. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT IN THE FUTURE ADDITIONAL INCOME THAT WOULD BE GENERATED TO THE VILLAGE. SO THIS IS A SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR THE VILLAGE THAT YOU'VE NOT PREVIOUSLY HAD. AND IT PROVIDES, UH, A BENEFIT TO LIKE, STANLEY SAID. A REGIONAL AREA. THAT IS JUST I MEAN A LOT SO MANY PLACES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA CALLED TRUMP DOING SUBJECT TO SEWER CONVERSIONS.

WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO WITH THAT MATERIAL? IF YOU'RE DOING THESE LARGE SUBJECT TO SEWER CONVERSION, SO IT ALLOWS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS PART OF THE STATE TO HANDLE THAT MATERIAL ACCORDINGLY, SO IT'S A WIN WIN FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AND I WANTED TO JUST VILLAGE COUNCIL TO BE MADE AWARE OF WHAT'S ON THE HORIZON. AND YOU SAY A LONG TERM LEASE. HOW ARE AT LEAST I MEAN, HOW LONG TERM IS THAT SHORT TERM INVESTMENT OF THE SCALE OF THESE PROJECTS WERE THIS SITE, FOR EXAMPLE, AS A 15 YEAR LEASE IS WHAT WE HAD. WE DON'T OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LEASE WITH THE CITY. AND BUT OUR PLAN IS TO HAVE SOMETHING OF THAT ORDER. 15 TO 20 YEARS IS GENERALLY FOR SUCH LARGE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCE USUALLY REQUIRES SUCH A DURATION OF BUT IT IT WOULD LIKELY BE LINKED TO COMMERCIAL RATES OR SOMETHING SIMILAR. SO IT'D BE IT'D BE. IT WOULD BE A COMMERCIAL LEASE LIKE SOMEONE ELSE WAS ON. WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A HANDOUT FROM THE CITY WERE LIKE THE CITY WOULD BE COMPENSATED FOR THAT SPACE. OKAY AND SINCE WE ARE GOING TO BE BUILDING A NEW WASTEWATER. TREATMENT PLANT. IT'LL BE GOING, THEY'LL BE GOING UP AT THE SAME TIME. THEY DON'T NEED TO BE, UH, WE'RE PLANNING ON HAVING THEM.

IT'S CONCURRENT AS POSSIBLE, SO THERE'S LESS DISRUPTION. BUT I DON'T FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE. IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE LEAST DISTURBANCE AS POSSIBLE, RIGHT.

KIND OF ANTICIPATE THAT HAPPENING. YES. OUR PLAN IS OUR OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO BREAK GROUND THIS NEXT YEAR. AND WHAT TYPE OF, UM WHAT'S THE POLLUTION FACTOR? YES SO WHAT? THIS SYSTEM WE TAKE IN THESE PRODUCTS, AND IT'S PERMITTED VIA THE STANDARD PERMITTING PROCESS WILL HAVE AN

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TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA ON THIS SEATTLE SITE IT'S FULLY PERMITTED WITH WASHINGTON STATE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS, WHICH ARE EXTREMELY STRINGENT, SIMILAR TO CALIFORNIA. AND THAT ALLOWS US FROM A POLLUTION STANDPOINT. WE'RE LOCATED IN A SUBURB OF SEATTLE. IN THIS, THERE'S A HOUSING COMMUNITY, RIGHT BY THIS PROCESS. SO WE'RE WITHIN ALL OF THOSE STANDARDS FROM THE POLLUTION STANDPOINT, THERE'S SPECIFIC ONES ARE LOOKING FOR HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THAT BEFORE THE WATER IN FROM AN AIR STANDPOINT, THERE'S NO ISSUES AND THERE'S NO NOISE POLLUTION OR LIGHT POLLUTION, EITHER, LIKE THIS SITE IS A VERY QUIET I JUST KIND OF AUTOMATICALLY THINK ABOUT SMELL, YOU KNOW? I MEAN, MY CAUCUS WAS OUT THERE YOU COULD SMELL THE WIND WAS BLOWING JUST RIGHT. YOU KNOW THE CONCENTRATE SO THE ODOR SO WE ACTUALLY GO THROUGH A VERY DETAILED PROCESS ON OVER MITIGATION. SO THIS SITE USES A WET BIOLOGICAL PROCESS TO ACTUALLY DEAL WITH THAT ODOR, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH AN AIR CONSULTANT SPECIALIZES HERE IN FLORIDA ON SPECIFIC OVER MANAGEMENT SOLUTIONS. THE SITE ALSO HAS A WEATHER STATION ON SITE AND ORDER MANAGEMENT ON THE ENTIRE STATE. THAT ALLOWS US TO KNOW IF THERE'S IF WE'RE ACTUALLY PRODUCING ORDER. WE CAN GET AHEAD OF IT AND SOLVE THE PROBLEM IF THERE IS A PROBLEM.

NOTHING THAT IT WOULD YOU THAT'S ENCOURAGING TO KNOW. THANK YOU. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, HERNANDEZ.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, SO I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS. SO YOU YOU DID SAY SEATTLE IS IN THE SEATTLE PROJECT IS IN THE SUBURBAN AREA IN A SUBURB OF SEATTLE, A TOWN CALLED SUMMER.

IT'S ABOUT A 20 MINUTE DRIVE FROM THE SEATTLE AIRPORT, SEATTLE TACOMA. AND THEN THE OTHER TWO PROJECTS. SO THERE'S WILL WALK DOWN THE THIS ONE IS IN GREEN BAY, WISCONSIN PROCESSING DAIRY WASTE. IT'S THREE TIMES LARGER THAN THAT SEATTLE PROJECT A RURAL AREA OR IS THAT LIKE 30? THIS IS RURAL. IT'S AT A FARM. THIS PROJECT HERE IS ALSO RURAL IN INDIANA.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S MUCH LARGER AS WELL. THIS PROJECT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE U. S. VIRGIN ISLANDS A LITTLE LESS REAL, BUT THIS ONE HERE IS IN A SUBURBAN AREA EXTREMELY SIMPLE. AND THEN THIS WOULD BE CONNECTED OR YOU WOULD GET YOU'RE BIOSOLIDS. THE WASTE WATER. SO I WANT OR WHAT DO YOU GET IT FROM OTHER AREAS. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND LIKE WILL WE BE THE ONLY ONE THAT WILL THERE BE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO BRING THEIR ITEMS OVER HERE? HOW YEAH, ABSOLUTELY HAVING A MEETING WITH ST LUCIE. AND ALL THE COUNTIES. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT. YEAH. I WALKED INTO WHAT WE DID IN SEATTLE. WE'RE LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR HERE. SO THIS SITE TAKES TWO TYPES OF WAYS. SLUDGE WASTE AND LIQUID WASTE LIQUID WASTE TO THINGS LIKE FOG. PORTER PARTY WASTE SECTOR. PUMPED UP THE SUBJECT TANKS. AND THEN SLUDGE WASTE SO THINGS THAT ACTUALLY COME OFF THE BACK OF ANOTHER WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN THE WATER. OUR INTENT IS WE WOULD TAKE TWO TYPES OF LIQUID OR 22 MAJOR CATEGORIES OF LIQUID. WASTE YOUR LIQUID BILE SALTS ON YOUR PLAN. AND OF COURSE, THESE ARE JUST HALLWAYS. AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO TAKE HOLD. WHILE SOLID SLUDGE THE LAST TYPE OF WASTE FROM OTHER WASTEWATER TREATMENT. WHICH IS HOW WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO PAY FOR THIS. THE SCALE OF THIS IS LARGE, SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND THE IDEA IS IF A WASTEWATER TO IMPLANTS PENT SPENDING X, WHERE WE CHARGE THEM LESS THAN NEXT NOW, AND THEY'LL BRING US OUR BOTTLES HOLDING. WE WILL TO HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS, OF COURSE. DOES THAT HELP? YES, IT'S JUST I'M BARELY LEARNING ABOUT THIS WHOLE. YOU ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANT? I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH WHATEVER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. I WANT TO GO THROUGH TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE FULLY UP TO SPEED. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND SOMETHING THAT LIKE ME. YOU DON'T NEED VERY MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT BIOSOLIDS, AND I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT BOB SALTS, SO I'M I'M EXCITED. I'VE I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE LAWYER ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THERE IS A BILL THAT PASSED THIS PAST LEGISLATIVE HB 13. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE LAST TWO NUMBERS, BUT IT TALKS ABOUT HOW COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES HAVE TO, UM AND FORCE THAT PRESIDENTS THAT HAVE SEPTIC SEWER CURRENTLY WILL HAVE TO EITHER UPGRADE TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OR GO INTO WATER SEWER SYSTEM SOUNDS. YEAH AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A HUGE PART OF THIS ALSO IS THAT IN SUCH CONVERGENCE OR UPGRADES, IT'S OFTEN THAT YOU HAVE TO PUMP OUT THE TANKS OR THAT YOU PRODUCE MORE FILE SOLID IN AND WE'RE PROVIDING MORE RESOURCES TO TAKE WHAT COMES OUT OF THE TANK. THE ACTUAL ACCEPTED ITSELF INTO OUR SYSTEM. OR TAKING THE BALL SOLDIERS FROM THOSE PLANTS, SO IT'S ACTUALLY A POSITIVE EVEN AS PEOPLE CONVERT SEPTIC SO IS THERE NO WASTE TO THIS LIKE YOUR WAIST WOULD BE STILL USED FOR SOMETHING LIKE YOU SAID. YOU MAKE LIKE PELLETS OR IT WAS SOME CEMENT CAN FUEL SO THAT'S YOUR WAIST WAIST IS A STRONG WORD. WHAT I LIKE TO THINK OF THIS IS THAT WE TAKE WASTE, WHICH REALLY IS JUST VARIOUS TYPES OF MOLECULES AND TURN IT INTO A

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AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE LAST ONE IS A CLEAN WATER AND THE ODOR WHICH WE HAVE MANAGEMENT SPECIFIC MANAGEMENT FOR THE AND THE CLEAN WATER WE SENT TO YOUR POINT, BUT IT'S VERY CLEAN. LIKE I'LL SHOW YOU LIKE THE ACTUAL WATER. AS FAR AS WATER GOES PRETTY NICE WATER. COOL. THANK YOU. OKAY? AND THAT JUST KIND OF LEADS ME TO OKAY. SO IN LOOKING AT THAT SITE MAP, YOU'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE RAILROAD YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHER, UM COMING FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES. SO DO YOU FORESEE THAT UTILIZING THE RAILROAD OR IS IT COMING OVER THE ROAD ARE AND THEN THAT LEADS TO, UM WHAT IS YOUR MAXIMUM VOLUME? WHAT KIND OF WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? LOADS PER DAY OR THE INCREASE IN ONE BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF RESIDENTIAL AREA ON THOSE ROADS. IF YOU'RE TALKING SLUDGE, AND THAT'S HEAVY, YOU KNOW, SEMIS IF IT'S COMING IN THAT WAY, YES. SO I THINK FROM A TRUCK STANDPOINT, WE'RE GOING TO THE ORDER OF 22 32 40 TRUCKS A DAY THAT SORT OF RANGE PER RATTED THROUGHOUT THE DAY. THAT'S A TRUCK ABOUT ONCE AN HOUR ONCE EVERY 45 MINUTES IS SORT OF THE RAIN. SO DO YOU PLAN ON RUNNING? WHAT THREE SHIPS? IS IT AROUND THE CLOCK GENERALLY WOULD BE AROUND THE CLOCK. FROM A RECEIVING STANDPOINT, WE GENERALLY RECEIVED ACTUALLY, ABOUT HALF THE DAY SOMETIMES ALSO RECEIVE LATER. SOMETIMES WE RECEIVED EARLIER BUT ITS GENERAL THAT KIND OF TIME VERY LITTLE RECEIVING ON THE WEEKEND. OKAY SO YOU'RE TALKING 20 TO 40 TRUCKS. A DAY. THAT'S MORE. IN THE LINE OF HE RUN A 10 HOUR DAY THAT'S LIKE 3 TO 4 LOADS AN HOUR. UH IT'S THERE'S A LOADING THAT WE GO THROUGH. WE HAVE AN ANALYSIS. WE'RE WORKING THROUGH EXACTLY LIKE THE TIMING OF THAT, BUT IT CAN BE AS MUCH AS THREE OR FOUR TRUCKS AN HOUR. BUT IT'S GENERALLY MORE LESS THAN OKAY, SO YOU DON'T SEE UTILIZING THE RAILROAD FOR THAT. WE DON'T SEE UTILIZING THE RAILROAD AND SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE MOST WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS DON'T HAVE REAL ACCESS, WHICH IS WHERE IT'S COMING. OKAY NEEDLE OUT THAT PROCESS JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE AFTER ALL THOSE PROCESSES AND YOU HAVE THE CLEAN WATER IN YOUR AND YOUR OTHER PRODUCTS THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO DO. IS THERE ANY LEFT OVER. AND YOU SAID WASTE IS THERE IS ANOTHER PRODUCT THAT IS NOT USEFUL THAT YOU HAVE TO DISPOSE OF. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE TO DISPOSE OF OFFSITE OR THERE WILL BE A SMALL AMOUNT OF GARBAGE ON THE SITE. BUT LIKE WHAT WILL SHOW UP IN THE SEPTIC REVILES HOLDS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LIKE WHATEVER SUPPORT RAN DOWN THE DRAIN. VOLUMETRIC LEE IS FAIRLY SMALL WILL BE THE SITE GARBAGE LIKE WE'LL HAVE PEOPLE WORKING, THERE WILL BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GARBAGE THAT THEY WERE GENERATED ITS VOLUMES OF THAT MAGNITUDE. YOU'RE NOT SEEING RAILCARS WORTH OF GARBAGE LEAVING OUR SITE, RIGHT? RIGHT BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS A PRODUCT IF THERE WAS GARBAGE PRODUCT AT THE END OF THE PROCESS THAT IS NOT BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE AND YOU HAVE TO DISPOSE OF IT SOME OTHER WAY.

VOLUME OF GARBAGE IS THE WAY I WOULD. I WOULD RESPOND BACK WITH THAT. IT'S A PERCENTAGE WISE, THE VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OKAY? AND IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S. RADIOACTIVE THAT YOU HAVE TO HANDLE IT. SPECIAL LIMB. IT'S NORMAL GARBAGE, ACTUALLY. I'VE NEVER ASKED SOMEONE TO COME LOOK AT MY GARBAGE CANS BEFORE, BUT HERE I AM. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME LOOK AT MY GARBAGE CANS AND LET ME EXPLAIN WHY WE ACTUALLY THE BIGGEST THING THAT ACTUALLY HAS A POTENTIAL OF SMELLING IS GARBAGE. AND EVEN IF IT'S JUST LIKE THE PEOPLE ON THE SITE THAT THEY'RE LIKE THEY'RE HOT DOGS OR WHATEVER THEY THREW OUT AND OUR GARBAGE CANS ACTUALLY ALL HAVE SEALED LIDS AND AN ODOR MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT SEALED TO THE GARBAGE CAN SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY PULLING AIR OUT OF THE GARBAGE CANS AND TREATING IT FOR AN ODOR STANDPOINT, SO WE DON'T GET THAT ODOR LEAKAGE INTO THE SOCIETY. I MEAN, WE HAVE REALLY NICE GARBAGE CANCER. PROMISE YOU WE'RE GLAD FOR THAT. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND WHAT'S YOU SAID? TIMEFRAME WHAT ARE WE TALKING MONTHS? HOW MONTHS? OKAY. WE'RE LOOKING TO BREAK GROUND EARLY NEXT YEAR IS OUR POINT. OKAY AND THAT'S COMING UP REALLY FAST. FAST IT REALLY IS. OKAY SOUNDS EXCITING, SUPER EXCITED, AND I'M EXCITED TO SHARE EVERYTHING I RECOGNIZE. WE DOVE INTO SOME VERY SPECIFIC DETAILS HERE, BUT AT A HIGH LEVEL, RIGHT? THIS IS SOMETHING THAT FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT FOR THE CITY FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT FOR THE CITY AND THE WIDER SOCIETY, AND I'M A LONG TERM JOBS AND ECONOMIC STANDPOINT. I MEAN, THESE ARE HIGH PAYING MANUFACTURING JOBS THAT WORK AT A PLACE LIKE THIS. THIS IS A GOOD GOOD THING FOR THE TOWN.

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[PUBLIC COMMENT (3 MINUTES EACH)]

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WELCOME BACK. FOR THE RECORD LONDON ICON. UM. I GOT SO MANY QUESTIONS ON THE ON THE, UM BIOSOLIDS PROJECT THAT I FIGURED I COULD NOT GET IT IN AND THREE MINUTES, I'M GONNA SEND YOU OUT A LONG EMAIL AND LET YOU GUYS DECIPHER OF THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS. UM. ON THAT SAME SUBJECT, THOUGH I HAD RECENTLY GOTTEN AN EMAIL FROM 1000 FRIENDS OF FLORIDA. WHO IS PUTTING ON A WEB BONAIRE. NEXT WEEK. I BELIEVE ON THE SEVENTH ON THIS VERY SUBJECT. IF IT DOES NOT HURT ANY OF US TO BECOME EDUCATED. WE ARE ALL ILLITERATE WHERE THIS COMES AND THE MORE WE KNOW THE MORE QUESTIONS WE KNOW TO ASK. AND, UM IT'S JUST BETTER FOR ALL OF US. MAIN PURPOSE LIKE TWO MINUTES HERE. WE ARE HALFWAY THROUGH NEW TERMS. ON THE ON THE COUNCIL. WE ARE NEARING THE END OF OUR LAST ELECTION TERMS. UM MY JOB FOR ALL OF YOU IS TO SIT DOWN AND EVALUATE. WHERE YOU STAND. ON YOUR CAMPAIGN PROMISES. WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IF YOU WERE ELECTED. WHAT YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED WHAT YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON WHAT HAS JUST FALLEN THROUGH THE CRACKS. BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME PRIOR TO OUR NEXT ELECTION. TO REALLY DO SOME SELF EVALUATION. UM THAT'S IT. THANKS. THANK YOU. AND MISS DONNA CARMEN.

WELCOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE RECORD. DONNA CARMEN, REPRESENTING THE INDIAN TOWN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. I JUST WANTED TO EXTEND A HUGE HUGE CONGRATULATIONS ON THE VILLAGE AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR THE INDIAN TOWN RODEO. IT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS, AND WE WERE ABLE TO TELL THE ADVANTAGES OF OUR COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE EVENT. UM VERY PLEASED WITH THE TURNOUT BOTH NIGHTS SELLOUT CROWD. THE VERY FEW GLITCHES. HUGE SUPPORT. FROM THE CHAMBER BOARD AND COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT, INCLUDING OUR MAYOR, SUSAN THOMAS. SHE WORKED DILIGENTLY ALL WEEKEND, AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW SHE LIFTED ABOUT 5050 TO £65 P POST. WHEN SHE DISMANTLED THE PARKING LOT ON SUNDAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO EXTEND THE THANK YOU AND INVITE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AGAIN. PLEASE, WHEN WE'RE DOING THESE THINGS, PLEASE COME JOIN US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. IS IT? EVERYTHING RIGHT ALONG. YOU GUYS WILL HAVE TO EXCUSE ME. I GOT NEW GLASSES. IT'S TAKEN ME A MINUTE TO FOCUS. OKAY COMMENTS BY OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL

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EVERYONE IS HERE. EVERYONE THAT'S VIRTUALLY TUNING IN. THANK YOU FOR COMING TO OUR VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING. AND THAT'S IT. A COUNCIL MEMBER, APOLLO. MAYOR FOR US. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. I DO. I DO WANT TO BRING FOR NEXT AGENDA. THE DISCUSSION OF CITIZEN COMMITTEES. YOU KNOW, LIKE MS LINDA AND I CAN SAID, YOU KNOW. WE EVALUATED OUR CAMPAIGN PROMISES. AND THAT'S BEEN HEAVY ON THE BACK OF MY MIND, BUT I WANT TO BRING IT UP FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY, UM. AND JUST TO SPEAK TO THAT FAIR. ISSUE IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN AGREE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO IS SUPPORT THAT WITH A SO I THINK

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I KNOW THAT THAT, UM. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP. I DID A MEETING WITH THE MAYOR OUT AT INDIAN WOULD TWO. UM TALK THROUGH SOME PROCESSES TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A GOOD UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE PC, A BOARD AND WHAT IT DOES, AND THEN THE COUNCIL WITH HIS OWNING AND APPROVING PROJECTS. AND I THINK WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT IS WE NEED A BETTER WAY TO INFORM THE PUBLIC OR THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE AND THERE WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S NO SILVER BULLET. WE PUT IT OUT THERE WHEREVER WE CAN, LEGALLY WHAT WERE REQUIRED, PLUS SOCIAL MEDIA POST POST POST AND YOU STILL HAVE PEOPLE SAY I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THAT. SO WE DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN. HOWEVER I THINK WE ARE DEFICIENT WHEN IT COMES TO, UM DISPLAYING. SIGNS AND WHAT WE HAVE I KNOW THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO SIGNS FOR THE HEARINGS. SO MANY DAYS AHEAD OF THE TIME AND WE HAVE THOSE AND THOSE ARE THE LITTLE PUSH SIGNS, BUT I NOTICED HOWEVER, ON THESE SOME OF THESE PARCELS AS YOU HAD TO STEWART YOU SEE THESE NICE BIG YELLOW SIGNS. AND IT'S NOT ABOUT THE HEARING. IT'S ABOUT THE APPLICATION. SO PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO KNOW ABOUT IT RIGHT UP FRONT THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UM UM. AN APPLICATION PROCESS. IT'S NOT EVEN GONE THAT FAR INTO THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A HEARING AND I THINK THAT THAT GIVES PEOPLE MORE OF A NOTICE AND TIME TO AND IF WE ARE ABLE TO DO A NICE BIG SIGN LIKE THAT, I THINK THE PUBLIC WOULD BE BETTER SATISFIED. THAT THEY ARE BEING INFORMED OF WHAT'S HAPPENING RATHER THAN ITS SNEAKING IN THAT, OR THE WIRE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO GET ON AN AGENDA ITEM. IT WILL REQUIRE CHANGES TO YOUR RULES AND REGULATIONS. UNTIL YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS SO YEAH, OKAY, SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WE CAN SPEAK TO. AND THEN. LASTLY I KNOW THAT IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN OUR LAST MEETING, AND I THINK IT APPROPRIATE THAT WE I SPEAK TO IT. UM IT'S RATHER THAN AN EMAIL. BUT IN THE SAME PUBLIC FORUM, UM, ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION. UM THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO THAT IS A YEARLY THING. AND AS I RECALL, I KNOW THAT. AND I APPRECIATE STAFF. UM, REPLYING AS QUICK AS THEY DID TO THE REQUEST OF THE COUNCIL, WHICH THEY ARE, THEY ARE KNOWN TO DO THAT WHICH IS WHICH IS ENCOURAGING. BUT UM. I DON'T RECALL EVER STAFF EVER HAVING DONE THAT PREVIOUSLY IN THE YEARS OF OUR PRESENTATION TO THE DELEGATION. AND I KNOW THAT IT DEFINITELY WAS NOT DONE THE YEARS THAT I HAVE PRESENTED BECAUSE I WRITE MY OWN. IT'S NOT STAFF DRIVEN. IT'S UM AND THE THING OF IT IS IT'S STAFF DRIVEN BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT HERE. THIS COUNCIL HAS TALKED ABOUT IT WAS AWARE OF THE DELEGATION MEETING BECAUSE WE ASKED WHAT OUR PRIORITIES AND TO GET THAT TOGETHER AND IT WAS MENTIONED IN A PREVIOUS MEETING ABOUT THAT. THAT DELEGATION THAT WE WOULD BE PRESENTING AND SO WE WOULD GET THOSE TOGETHER. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS A KNOWN AND, UM AND IT'S LIKE I SAID, IT'S A YEARLY THING THAT WE DO. AND IT'S A NEW THING IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, GET THAT OUT TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, BECAUSE AS FAR AS I AM AWARE UM. THAT IT HAS NEVER BEEN, UM IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE, AS I RECALL, SO THAT'S A NEW THING. SO, UM APPRECIATE THE STAFF AND THE WAY

[COMMITTEE REPORTS]

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[APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]

NO MATTER MAYOR ALL IN FAVOR. I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. CONSENT AGENDA. DO I HAVE EMOTION?

[CONSENT AGENDA]

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THAT SO? HISTORICALLY THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER IS BECAUSE THE HOLIDAYS DO WE HAVE ANY. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE STAFF OVER THERE. I'M SEEING SOME CONCERNED LOOKS APPROVED THE CONSENT AGENDA, SO I WAS JUST VERIFYING MR VOTES THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO PULL THAT OFF CONSENT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE CHANGES TO THAT HOLIDAY CALENDAR. YEAH, THEY WELL, HERE'S THE THING WE KNOW WE HAVEN'T HAD A VOTE ON THE WOMEN VOTED THIS. WE WERE DISCUSSING IT, DISCUSSING WHAT WAS ON THE CONSENT OF GENERAL NORMALLY WOULD PULL IT, BUT WE ALREADY DID IT. SO THERE'S NO REAL POINT. THAT'S OKAY. OKAY? SO DO WE NEED TO PULL IT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION FURTHER? AND TO MAYBE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. OKAY? OKAY, SO. SO I GUESS IT LENDS TO THEN DO WE WANT TO HAVE TWO MEETINGS IN NOVEMBER AND TWO MEETINGS IN DECEMBER? WHAT'S THE COUNCIL'S CONSENSUS? I THINK BENEFICIAL, OKAY. OKAY? IT REALLY WOULD IMPACT STAFF BECAUSE WHY WOULD WE MEET IN A WEEK WHEN STAFF HAS TO TURN AROUND AND COMPILE WHAT WE DID IN THIS MEETING. IT GOES AT THE END. IT'S STAFF TIME THAT THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY'D BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCT THE WHOLE MEETING. AND WILL THERE BE IN A WEEK? WELL, THERE'LL BE ITEMS TO PUT ON THE AGENDA SO FOR ME. IT'S A NO BECAUSE IT'S BECAUSE OF STAFF LIKE USUALLY AT THE VERY END, LIKE IN DECEMBER. THE REASON WHY WE DON'T HAVE IS BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE TAKE OFF THE END OF DECEMBER AND SO LIKE YOU'RE GONNA MAKE STAFF WORK WHEN THEY'VE ALREADY HAD PLANS OF LEAVING AND WHO'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF CERTAIN ITEMS, YOU KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. CAN YOU THINK THAT STAFF CAN HANDLE IT? I THINK WE GOT A GREAT STUFF. I DON'T SEE WHY YOU CAN'T HANDLE THAT. WELL, IT'S SOMETHING IT'S THERE'S MORE TO IT. THEY CAN HANDLE IT. BUT IT IS. I MEAN, YOU HAVE CERTAIN THINGS THAT OUR TIME. TIME SENSITIVE. THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ADD. I KNOW THAT IF WE HAVE CERTAIN, LET'S SAY WE HAVE AN ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. THAT NEEDS TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, MEET ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS. WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND AND DO THAT NEXT WEEK. YOU KNOW, SO IN THAT THAT INSTANCE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER NOT BEING ABLE TO PUT ON AN AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK, YOU KNOW? AND ANOTHER THING IS AND IF WE HAVE SOMETHING EMERGENT, WE WILL HAVE WHAT WE'RE HAVING. NOVEMBER 16TH. SO LIKE. IF THERE IS SOMETHING EMERGENT, AND WE'VE DONE THAT I THINK IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO THAT WE DIDN'T MEET AND DECEMBER BECAUSE IT WAS IT WAS A MUST HAVE MEETING WILL DO IT. IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO. WE WILL BE THERE. IT'S JUST THE TURNAROUND ON NOTICES LIKE LET'S JUST SAY WE DO SOMETHING TODAY AND YOU WANT TO ADVERTISE FOR NEXT MEETING. IN ONE WEEK.

YOU CAN'T DO THAT. BUT IT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER JUST JUST UP THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I THINK AT LEAST COUNTING THE ONE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ON NOVEMBER 16TH. I THINK IT POLICE IN THE THREE OF THE LAST FIVE YEARS YOU'VE HAD AT LEAST TWO MEETINGS IN ONE OF THEM, AND IT WAS NEITHER NOVEMBER DECEMBER AND IT WAS RESULT OF SCHEDULING A SPECIAL MEETING TO ADDRESS PARTICULAR ISSUES THAT NEED TO GET DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. THE PRIMARY CONCERN I WOULD HAVE IS JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THURSDAY MEETINGS THAT IT ENDS UP WITH ISSUES WITH THANKSGIVING IS WHERE IT COMES IN, AND ADVERTISING ISSUES BECOME THE PRIMARY THING. SOME THINGS DON'T REQUIRE ADVERTISEMENT. SOMETHING'S DO, BUT THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF THE MOVING PARTS AND MAYBE DIFFICULT COMING OUT OF THE FIRST MEETING INTO A SECOND MEETING. UNLESS THERE'S ADVANCED PLANNING, WE USUALLY DO THAT. ONLY IF WE'RE SETTING A SPECIAL MEETING TO MAKE THAT ALL HAPPEN AS WE'RE DOING THE 16 SO I HAVE NO PREFERENCE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT JUST OFFERING THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY INDULGENT WHEN WE NEEDED TO ADD ADDITIONAL MEETINGS IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, UM AND THEN WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET THINGS DONE SO. IF YOU PREFER, WE CAN ADD LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR FOR NEXT YEAR. THERE YOU GO AHEAD AND ADD A MEETING FOR THE 21ST OF NOVEMBER . THANKSGIVING THEN IS THE FOLLOWING THURSDAY ON THE 28TH.

YEAH UM, AND WE CAN ALWAYS CANCEL IT IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. AND THEN IN DECEMBER, YOU'VE GOT THE 12TH ESTABLISHED CURRENTLY AND THEN THE 19TH WOULD BE THE FOLLOWING THURSDAY WITH THE 26 BEING THE THURSDAY FOLLOWING THAT, SO YOU WOULD HAVE TWO BACK TO BACK MEETINGS, THE 2ND AND 3RD THURSDAYS OF EACH MONTH. QUITE HONESTLY. SO NOVEMBER IS BACK TO BACK WOULD

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WE'LL EASE INTO IT CAN COMPROMISE. YEAH. SO. THAT MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO IS THAT MOTION, INCLUDING THE CORRECTIONS THAT WE HAVE DONE TO THAT CALENDAR? YES, IT IS. COUNCIL MEMBER STONE. STEPPED AWAY. DO WE NEED TO WAIT ON HIM TO COME BACK TO MAKE SURE HIS SECOND I HAVE COMMENTS. WE HAVE COMMENT. GOOD. AGENDA. MISS LINDEN ICOM. MAYOR JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE CLERKS RECORD. CAN WE TREAT THAT ITEM AS HAVING BEEN PULLED AND YOU'RE JUST DEALING WITH IT RIGHT NOW? YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. FOR THE RECORD. LINDA NIKE. UM UM THIS TRIP. I'M COMING AT YOU AS YOUR BOSS. WE HIRED YOU ALL. FOR TWO MEETINGS A MONTH FOR 12 MONTHS A YEAR. UM IN ADDITION TO YOUR YOUR WAGES OR SALARIES, YOUR BENEFITS. AND EVERYTHING WE WOULD EXPECT YOU TO RUN THE VILLAGE BUSINESS TWO MEETINGS A MONTH. THERE IS NO OTHER EMPLOYER OUT THERE THAT WILL GIVE YOU A BREAK AND SAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME IN THIS WEEK BECAUSE THERE'S A HOLIDAY. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE RULES THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T MOVE THAT MEETING TO A TUESDAY INSTEAD OF A THURSDAY. YOU CAN. ADJUST ACCORDING TO WHATEVER THE CALENDAR IS SAYING, BUT WE'VE GOT SO MUCH IMPORTANT BUSINESS GOING ON IN THE VILLAGE THAT I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN AFFORD. TO PASS BY TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO GET REWARDS PASSED REGULATIONS PASSED INPUT FROM FROM THE COMMUNITY. UM, JUST MY TWO CENTS. THANKS. THANK YOU. AND JUST FOR THE EDIFICATION OF THE PUBLIC. THERE IS NO SHORTAGE, AND THERE IS NOTHING IN THE CHARTER THAT I AM AWARE OF THAT STATES. WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO MEETINGS A MONTH. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM THE COUNCIL IN THE VERY BEGINNING SET UP. I MEAN, WE COULD HAVE THREE MEETINGS A MONTH BEFORE MONEY MEETINGS A MONTH. THAT'S JUST THE RULES THAT WORSE WERE STARTED, THEN SO . MOVING RIGHT ALONG, SO THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. AND WITH THE CORRECTION. UM SO DO YOU IS THAT CORRECTION DOES THAT SECOND STILL STAND WITH THE CORRECTIONS? PENDING A MEETING FOR NOVEMBER FOR NOVEMBER. 21ST 2024 SO THERE'LL BE TWO MEETINGS IN NOVEMBER BACK TO BACK SURE. WE'VE HAD COMMENTS ALL IN FAVOR. I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. ONTO THE REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER FIVE. WELCOME. DEBBIE RESOURCE PARKS DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.

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Approval of the 2023 Indiantown Christmas Parade Applications-EV-24-001 and EV-24-002 

VILLAGE OF INDIA TOWN CHAMBER HAS SUBMITTED SPECIAL EVENT APPLICATION 24, 001 AND 002. FOR THEIR ANNUAL CHRISTMAS PARADE. UM FOR DECEMBER 2ND 2023. ITS FIRST EVENTS THAT WILL BE CENTERED AROUND THE POST FAMILY PARK, BUT THEY WILL BE COMING TOGETHER AT BIG MOUNTAIN PARK TO START THE PARADE AND STAGING. THANK YOU AND GETTING EVERYBODY LINED UP AND HEAD OUT TO, UH CELEBRATE WITH THE TOWN, SO VILLAGE COUNCIL, UM, APPROVAL IS REQUIRED BECAUSE THEIR STREET

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ISN'T IT? WELL, WE HAVE A FLOAT, FISHER. LAST YEAR THAT WAS DECISION WAS MADE LATE, SO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT EARLY. WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT SOMETHING. I KNOW.

LAST YEAR, COUNCILWOMAN PEREZ TRIED TO ORGANIZE A FLOAT BUILDING, BUT THAT DIDN'T COME TOGETHER. IT'S INDIAN TOWN. THROW CHICKEN IN THE BACK OF A PICKUP TRUCK. THAT'S WHAT WE DID IT THAT'S IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK. NOW THERE'S USUALLY THERE'S USUALLY MORE THAN JUST THAT PARADE AT THAT TIME OF THE YEAR. ISN'T THERE A SECOND ONE? THE ONLY OTHER THE ONLY OTHER ONE THAT I'M AWARE OF, UM, MAYOR IS THE GUADALUPE. THE CHURCH? YEAH PROCESSION THAT THEY DO, UM AND WHEN I SAW THIS ONE COME UP, I DID GO BACK AND REVIEW THAT APPLICATION THAT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, GIVEN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE AMPLIFIED MUSIC AND SOME OF THE OTHER ACTIVITIES ON THAT SITE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL ROAD CLOSURES WITHOUT THEY ARE NOT CLOSING ROADS WE HAD TO CHANGE OVER IN STAFF, CED HANDLED THE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HANDLED THAT ONE WAS HANDED OVER TO ME, SO I'M NOT SURE OKAY.

UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON ACTUALLY CLOSING ROADS THAT THE PROCESSION WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND TALKING WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT THEY WOULD BE RIGHT JUST A PROCESSION THAT THEY WOULD BE MOVING RIGHT ALONG. SO THE TRAFFIC MAYBE STOP FOR PERIOD TIME. BUT I APOLOGIZE THAT DIDN'T COME TO THE COUNCIL'S JUST THAT. YEAH I THINK WE WERE HANDLING IT HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN HANDLED. OKAY WELL AND MOVING FORWARD, THAT WE WILL TREAT THEM EQUALLY. OKAY, GOOD. AND ALSO I KNOW THAT THAT SPECIALLY EVENTS AND. AND CHANGING OVER. I'M SURE MAKE SURE THAT SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM VOICED FROM THE DIOCESE AND PREVIOUS SPECIAL EVENTS ABOUT THEY, UM ORDER OF THINGS AND THE REQUIREMENTS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE COMPLETELY COMPLETED. BEFORE IT COMES BEFORE IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, TO THE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THE ONE THING THAT COMES TO MY MIND IS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. IT'S NOT JUST THAT THEY GET APPROVAL, BUT THEY HAVE ACTUALLY DONE EVERYTHING THAT THIS REQUIRED NOT JUST APPROVAL BUT MOVED THROUGH THAT BEFORE IT COMES TO US. THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND FIRE RESCUE HAVE REVIEWED THIS APPLICATION AND SUBMITTED THEIR APPROVAL. GOOD. BUT FOR THIS, THERE'S YEAH, BUT OKAY, BUT THERE IS A STEP AND I GUESS WE CAN NEEDLE THAT OUT AND FINE TUNE THAT THAT LATER BECAUSE, YEAH, THEY MAY HAVE APPROVED IT.

BUT DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS COMPLETED THE PROCESS AND PAID FOR AND THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO BEFORE IT COMES TO US NOT JUST APPROVED BECAUSE THERE IS ANOTHER STEP THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO DO. WHEN THEY ARE DEALING WITH HIM SO WELL, NEEDLE THAT OUT AND JUST MAKE SURE IT'S A PART OF THE PROCESS. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SO WE HAVE EMOTION AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? JUST MISS DONNA CARMEN WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM. THANK YOU. AGAIN DONNA CARMEN, REPRESENTING THE INDIAN TOWN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND IF YOU WILL INDULGE ME SHARE SOME INFORMATION.

MA'AM. MY SINCERE APOLOGIES FOR NOT HAVING THIS IN THE PACKAGE. UM AGAIN, AND WE'VE BEEN CONSUMED WITH RODEO FOR THE PAST 30 DAYS. SO AGAIN, IT IS TIME FOR THE ANNUAL VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN CHRISTMAS PARADE. AND WE DO REQUEST YOUR ASSISTANCE AND SUPPORT AS ALWAYS, AND WE APPRECIATE IT MORE THAN YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS I FLOAT GOES I WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP YOU GUYS THIS YEAR. UM I WILL BE ONLY BE DOING TWO FLOATS VERSUS THREE FROM LAST YEAR, BUT I WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP YOU OUT WITH THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE. SO THAT'S IT JUST WANTED TO SHARE THE INFORMATION. THE APPLICATION . UM THE REASON THAT WE DO OUR

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ORDINANCE NO. XX-2023: AN ORDINANCE OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT CONCERNING REAL PROPERTY TOTALING 30.24 ACRES IN SIZE, LOCATED AT THE EAST SIDE OF S.W. FAMEL BOULEVARD, WEST OF FERNWOOD FORREST ROAD, NORTH OF THE ST, LUCIE CANAL AND SOUTH OF S.W. MARKET STREET, PARCEL ID, 084039000000001907, FROM URBAN RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND VILLAGE CORE MIXED USE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS TO SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION;  AND PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS, SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS, CODIFICATION AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MIXED USE SHOWN IN PURPLE. AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE SHOWN IN THE ORANGE AND THAT'S THE SITE THE SUBJECT OF A SEPARATE APPLICATION THAT WILL BE THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM THAT THAT WOULD BE A CONCURRENT ZONING REQUEST, BUT JUST SHOWING THE EXISTING CONFIGURATIONS WE'VE GOT THE

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PROPOSAL AND USES TO MAKE THE ENTIRE RIVER SUBDIVISION UM WITH A 32.4 HERE, ADDS THE EXISTING SUBURBAN OUGHT TO BE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE AS AS SHOWN HERE WITH THE RED AND THEN THAT WILL MATCH ALL OF THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST. THIS IS A LAND USE COMPARISON CHART. THIS IS IMPORTANT JUST TO KNOW. OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN READ IT, BUT IT PROVIDES THE DIFFERENCES IN THE EXISTING ALLOWED MAXIMUM DENSITY FOR THE EXISTING URBAN RESIDENTIAL OFFICES UP TO 15 UNITS. PER REGA. THE VILLAGE CALLED MIXED USES UP TO 20 UNITS PER ACRE, AND THE PROPOSAL AND USE WILL BE ACTUALLY A DOWNSIZING AND DOWNGRADING ON THE LAND USED TO ONLY FIVE UNITS PER ACRE. AND THAT WILL BE CONSISTENT ON THE 55.25 ACRES. IT PROVIDES A MAXIMUM DENSITY THROUGHOUT THE SUBDIVISION OF FIVE UNITS PER ACRE, AND THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS IS ALSO SHOWN IN THE LOWER COLUMN SHOWING THAT THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION DOWN 251 UNITS ON THE 30.24 ACRES AND TURNED IN 76 UNITS. ON THE 55.25. THIS IS THE PROPOSED ZONING. WE'VE ALREADY JUST SUMMARIZED IT JUST TO CONFIRM THAT'S A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM.

TO THE SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. AND THIS IS JUST A PLAN REVIEW PROCESS JUST TO SUMMARIZE THAT THE APPLICATION HAS GONE THROUGH A THOROUGH REVIEW WITHIN TAKE COMPLETENESS STAFF HAVE LOOKED AT THE FLORIDA STATE STATUTES. THE COM PLAN THE L. D. R S. WE'VE MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. AND THEN WENT THROUGH A SEPARATE PUBLIC FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WAS BEFORE THE P C. A. B PLANNING ZONING APPEALS BOARD HAS REVIEWED AS THE L P A WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. THERE WAS THE PUBLIC HEARING AND NOW WE'RE BEFORE THE VILLAGE COUNCIL FOR THE FIRST OF TWO SEPARATE READINGS AND PUBLIC HEARINGS, AS IS REQUIRED BY FLORIDA STATE STATUTES, AND THEN WE'LL TRANSMIT TO THE STATE AFTER THE SECOND READING JUST TO LET THEM KNOW THE OUTCOME OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION. SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR THE APPLICATION FOR CPA 23-052. TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE 30.24 ACRES OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM THE VILLAGE CALLED MIXED USE AND THE URBAN RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO THE LIMITED RESIDENTIAL ZONE. RESIDENTIAL UM, ON THE 30.24 ACRES. I'M SORRY. AND THE P C. A B RECOMMENDATION AT THE PUBLIC HEARING HELD WAS UNANIMOUSLY ON THE 21ST OF SEPTEMBER UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION. AND THAT'S THE END OF STAFF PRESENTATION FOR THE SMALL SCALE AND USE AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION. WITHIN. THEIR ORIGINAL APPLICATION WITH THOSE THREE DIFFERENT ZONING. THEY WERE APPROVED FOR HOW MANY UM UNITS ON NOW. YOU JUST HELP ME OUT THERE, TODD, I'VE FORGOTTEN. I KNOW I'VE GOT IT IN THE STAFF REPORT. I'M SORRY. IT'S OK. WE'VE GOT THE APPLICANTS. BUT IT'S ACTUALLY THEY ONCE THEY ARE PLANNING ON OR THEY WILL BE LESS THAN WHAT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED. THEY WILL BECAUSE OF THE MAXIMUM DENSITY GOING DOWN TO FIVE UNITS PER ACRE, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING LESS THAN THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED. BUT WHEN WE'RE DOING LAND USE AMENDMENTS BASED ON COLORS ON MAP, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM THAT COULD BE ALLOWED. PROPERTY SITE PLAN.

WE'RE NOT REALLY INSIGHT PLAN SPECIFICS, BUT THE NUMBER IS MUCH LOWER THAN WELL, THEY REDUCING IT OVERALL FOR THE OVERALL SUBDIVISION. BUT TODD, THE APPLICANT TOP MAORI WILL BE ABLE TO CONFIRM THE NUMBER OF UNITS BECAUSE I STARTED BECAUSE IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED FOR WHAT 176 OR SOMETHING, AND NOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT. CARL, I'M SORRY. IT'S NOT MY. SO LESS IS

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ORDINANCE NO. XX-2023: AN ORDINANCE OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE REZONING OF REAL PROPERTY TOTALING 30.24 ACRES IN SIZE, LOCATED AT THE EAST SIDE OF S.W. FAMEL BOULEVARD, WEST OF FERNWOOD FORREST ROAD, NORTH OF THE ST, LUCIE CANAL AND SOUTH OF S.W. MARKET STREET, PARCEL ID, 084039000000001907, FROM NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE AND VILLAGE MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICTS TO LIMITED RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT; AND PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS, SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS, CODIFICATION AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

IT IS HAS ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL HAD ANY EX PARTY COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING THIS RESULT THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS. ARE HEARING THAT. I THINK THAT'S SUFFICIENT, DINA AND YOU CAN WAITING ON THE PRESENTATION. FREEMAN, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. UM WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. OBVIOUSLY THIS APPLICATION IS REQUIRED. WE CHANGE THE COLOR ON THE MAP FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE, SO THE ZONING MAP COLOR HAS TO CHANGE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH AND THE APPLICANTS REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE. WE'RE JUST WAITING. HOW WE DOING? I CAN GET MY LAPTOP. YEAH. WILL BE WITH YOU SHORTLY. THAT'S THE APPLICANTS, NOT THE YEAH. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S WORTH THE WAIT. PRETTY SIMILAR TO THE LAST ONE BUT DIFFERENT COLORS ON THE MAP.

THANK YOU, RENEE. SO THE REQUEST TO REZONE THE 30.24 ACRES ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE AND VILLAGE MIXED USE TO LIMITED RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THE PROPERTY LOCATION IS WITH DETAILED IN THE LAST AGENDA ITEM DEPICTED IN RED EAST OF SIDE EAST SIDE OF SOUTHWEST FAMILY BOULEVARD WEST OF FIRM WOOD FOREST ROAD AND NORTH OF ST LUCIE CANAL AND SOUTH OF SOUTH WEST MARKET STREET. 30.24 ACRES. AGAIN SHOWING THE RIVER APPROVED SITE PLAN AREA OF 55.25 ACRES APPROVED FOR THE 176 ATTACHED AND DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. AND I, THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WAS APPROVED AND I DEFINITELY KNOW IT'S REDUCING.

AND THIS IS THE EXISTING LAND USE THAT SHOWS THE VILLAGE CALLED USED IN URBAN RESIDENTIAL, AND THAT'S JUST BEEN APPROVED. TO THE SUB URBAN RESIDENTIAL. ON THE FIRST READING. UM. THE EXISTING ZONING IS THE VILLAGE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE ON THE RIVER OAK PROPERTY, THE SUBJECT OF THIS APPLICATION, AND OBVIOUSLY WE GOT THE LIMITED RESIDENTIAL ON THE REMAINING PORTIONS OF THE RIVER OAKS SUBDIVISION SITE DEPICTED IN YELLOW AGAIN LOOKING AT THE LAND USE THAT SHOWS YOU THE THREE DIFFERENT LAND USES THAT JUST BEING RECKONED POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION FOR SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL AND WE'VE GOT THE EXISTING ZONING WITH THE VILLAGE MIXED, USE NEIGHBORHOOD, MIXED JUICE AND THEN LIMITED

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SORRY I WAS GOING TO THE ZONING GRAPHIC. YEAH, WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GONE. FROM THERE IS FURTHER BACK. YEAH IT'S LIKE SEVEN OR EIGHT OR BEING FURTHER THAN THAT. THERE'S A PROPOSAL OWNING THERE THAT SHOWS THE LIMITED RESIDENTIAL AND WHEN STAFF DID THE ANALYSIS, WHICH INCLUDED IN THE REPORT WITH THE AGENDA, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A DETAILED ANALYSIS OF WHAT'S THE EXISTING PATTERNS. WHAT'S THE EXISTING COLORS ON THE MAPS, EXISTING THRESHOLDS? WELL, MY QUESTION IS YOU HAVE NOW YOU HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD.

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BUT IT'S LIMITED RESIDENTIAL KIND OF BROKE UP THERE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE. YES OKAY . IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET. YES, MA'AM, THAT SHOWS YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE. YEAH. I GOT INTERESTED. OKAY ANY OTHER COUNCIL QUESTIONS CONCERNS. HAVE QUESTION HAVE A COMMENT. YES, SIR. UM. I SPENT THE 1ST 1ST SEVERAL MONTHS AFTER I WAS ELECTED. TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW THE DESIGNATION HAVE MIXED USE. WAS PUT ON THAT PROPERTY. TO THIS DAY. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR FIXING IT. THAT NEEDED TO BE FIXED. I APPRECIATE THAT. OVER TO THE APPLE. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, IT'S A IT'S BEEN A BIG QUESTION FROM THE BEGINNING, AND I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S NOT THE TYPE OF SITUATION THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE. WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP PROPERTY. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WORKING WITH STAFF AND HOW THINGS SHOULD WORK. STEPH NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH THREE DIFFERENT ZONING DESIGNATIONS THEY'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH WHEN A CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINT COMES IN WITH THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU HAVE STAFF TRYING TO GRAB A BOOK AND SAY WAIT, WHICH YOU'RE WHICH LOT AND THEN YOU TRY TO COMPARE THAT WITH THE MAP, AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY CONFUSING. SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW IS THE FACT THAT AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS WE'RE REALLY SAYING YOU KNOW WHAT? ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HEARD FROM THE FERNWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU HEARD SOME COMMENTS AND THINGS AND WE WANT TO PROVIDE FOR THE CONSISTENCY. YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF TREES PRESERVED ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, BUT NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE ABLE TO DO AN EVEN LARGER REDUCTION. SO ORIGINALLY, AS STAFF MENTIONED 176 LOTS WERE APPROVED BY YOU THROUGH THE SITE PLAN. WE'RE GOING TO BE DROPPING IT TO 131 TOTAL LOTS. SO WE'RE COMING DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY THAT THE OVERALL REDUCTION OF THE NICE THING IS THAT WHEN YOU TAKE THE LAND USE AND ZONING AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT USES WERE ALLOWED AND YOU HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWS THE TRIP GENERATION LOSSES OVER 3000 TRIPS WILL BE DROPPED FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT. SO WE WERE AT 4826 TRIPS. NOW WE'RE DROPPING THE 1424 PROPOSED TRIPS , SO THAT'S A BIG BIG CHANGE IN A DAILY COUNT THAT COULD BE ALLOWED IN THAT AREA, SO IT'S BIG FOR THAT. I THINK OVERALL, WHAT YOU CAN NOW SEE IS CONSISTENCY, THE FACT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS FOR THE OVERALL CONSENSUS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND A UNIQUE, LOGICAL WAY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSES AND THINGS THAT MAKE MAKE LESS SENSE. IT'S GOING TO CREATE FOR SOME COHESIVENESS AND WHAT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US IN THIS PROCESS. WE LITERALLY TAKE MODELS OF EACH OF THE FOOTPRINTS OF A HOME AND WE DROP IT ON EACH ONE OF THE LOTS AND SAY, CAN WE FIT A 30 FT. WHITE HOME ON THIS LOT? IF THE ANSWER WAS NO, IT'S LIKE, WHY IN THE WORLD ARE WE DOING DEALING WITH THIS PLAN? AND AS WE LOOKED AT THE APPROVED SITE PLAN I WAS INVOLVED AT THE TIME, BUT BUT WHAT STARTED AND AS I BEGAN TO HELP COACH THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS, THEY REALIZED YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF LOTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE REALLY BIZARRE SIZED HOMES AND IT DIDN'T MAKE AS MUCH SENSE SO FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR YOU.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING. 30 FT WILL BE THE MINIMUM WIDTH OF THE HOUSE. THE ZONING DESIGNATION SAYS THE MINIMUM LOT WITH NOW IS 40 FT. WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT FIFTIES, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 50 FT. AS THE MINIMUM WITH IT, WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THAT ALL MY HAVE A 25 FT. SETBACK ON THE FRONT TENDS ON THE SIDE, SO IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE DEVELOPMENT WHEN IT COMES TO THAT OVERALL, COHESIVE APPROACH WITH THAT, MADAM, OR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE TO ANSWER THOSE AND YOU ARE MURRAY FOR THE RECORD AGAIN WITH RED TAIL REPRESENTATIVE DEVELOPER THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. COMMENTS YES, MA'AM.

FILE THE HOMES CHANGE. ARE THEY SIMILAR TO LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO IT? I KNOW THERE WERE CONCERNS INITIALLY. FROM THE FIRST TIME IT WAS PROPOSED. HOW HOW HAS THAT CHANGED AND THE

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THEY'RE SAYING WE'RE USING THIS RIGHT NOW IN WELLINGTON. WE'RE USING THIS IN PALM BEACH WHEREVER IT IS, AND THEN WITH THAT PRODUCT LINEUP THAT WE HAVE. WE WILL TAKE X NUMBER OF MODELS BECAUSE WE CAN'T TAKE EVERY MODEL THAT THEY HAVE. BUT WE'LL BE TAKING THESE 567 MODELS AND APPLYING IT TO THE VILLAGE. AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT ARCHITECTURE SO IT WILL BE STYLISH AS YOU'RE SEEING WITH WITH MODERN DEVELOPMENT TODAY, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT AS MUCH AS WE CAN. WE'RE LOOKING AT MOSTLY ALL SINGLE STORY HOMES. AT THIS POINT.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AGAIN AT TRYING TO GET RID OF ANY AND ALL DUPLEXES. TOWN HOMES WERE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALMOST EVERYTHING YOU WILL SEE WILL BE A SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCT. AND THAT WILL BE A SINGLE STORY PROJECT AS WELL WITH FOUR GARAGES, NOT CARPORTS, UM SO IT'S GOING TO GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WILL BLEND IN QUITE WELL. AND THEN ALSO, UH WELL. THIS HAS THE SAME LIKE STREET DESIGN THAT INITIALLY WAS DONE. AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS THE YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A CERTAIN AGREEMENTS THAT IN THE PRIOR UM, TIME THAT WE HAD AND WE WANT. I WANT TO KNOW IF THOSE AGREEMENTS ARE STILL STAND. UM THAT YOU KNOW THE RESIDENTS FROM BURN WOOD, UM, REQUESTED, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE GREAT QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER. WHAT WERE THE NICE THING ABOUT THE APPROACH AND WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH STAFF IS WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN LAYOUT. EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAW PREVIOUSLY IN TERMS OF THE ROAD NETWORK IN TERMS OF WETLAND PRESERVATION TERMS OF BUFFERS IN TERMS OF THE POCKET PARKS, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE SHOWED EVERYTHING IS REMAINING. THE ONLY THING YOU'RE SEEING THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN WITH WHERE THE LOTS WERE. YOU SAW SOME AREAS THAT HAD ALL THESE 20 FT. 25 FT LOTS. WE'RE JUST MOVING THE LINES TO WIDEN THOSE AREAS, BUT WE'RE KEEPING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE LAYOUT AREAS. 100% THE SAME. SO WHEREVER THERE WAS A HOUSE IS THE ONLY PLACE WILL BE A HOUSE WHEREVER THERE WAS A ROAD. NONE OF THAT IS CHANGING. NOT ONE SINGLE ELEMENT OF DESIGN. THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE WILL BE A REDUCTION IN THE LOTS BY US, PUSHING THE LINES OUT TO CREATE FOR LESS LOTS. AND IN MORE REALISTIC PERSPECTIVE FOR THE VILLAGE. THANK YOU. I NOTICED THAT YOU YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH OR NEARING DOWN BUILDERS AND YOU MENTIONED UM D R. HORTON THAT I KNOW THAT THEIR NATIONALS STATEWIDE. WHATEVER THEY ARE, UM MY QUESTION AND ASK IS THAT WHATEVER. COMPANY THAT IS CHOSEN TO WORK WITH THAT THEY UTILIZE THE LOCAL RESOURCES AND, UH, COMPANIES LOCALLY FOR MATERIALS AND SERVICES RATHER THAN YOU KNOW WHEN WE'VE GOT IT KIND OF IN HOUSE AND PROBABLY COULD SAVE MONEY, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THEY'RE COMPETITIVE, BUT THEY BE UTILIZED. GREAT GREAT THOUGHT.

I'LL BE SURE TO PASS THAT ON. THANK PLEASE. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? ONE LAST THOUGHT TUCKED IN THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD 515, WHERE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS THAT WERE ALLOWED PREVIOUSLY AND WILL NOW BE DOWN 251. WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED AND WITH US WE'RE PROPOSING 131 SO QUITE CHANGE. THANK YOU, MADAM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION MOTION MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. IS THERE A 2ND 2ND? OKAY? ANY MORE FURTHER DISCUSSION. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE PUBLIC DISCUSSION. YES, MADAM. HERE. THE FIRST IS ELIZABETH WAGGONER.

WELCOME. HI ELIZABETH WAGNER. SO WE LIVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF CHANNEL. SO WE'RE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS PROJECT. I'M VERY I'M SORRY. CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIKE? SORRY UM, VERY THANKFUL TO HEAR THAT THE NUMBER OF HOUSES IS GOING DOWN. UM JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT IS THE MOTIVATION FOR? AND DECREASING THE NUMBER OF HOUSES. WHAT IS THE BENEFIT TO THE DEVELOPER? IF THERE'S ANY MOTIVATION OR BENEFIT TO THEM AND JUST CURIOUS. SO THE BIGGEST

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UM WHAT THEY WERE ALREADY ABLE TO PROVIDE US WITH WHAT THE TRIP REDUCTION WAS, BUT YOU'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SEE THAT TOTAL FLOW AS IT RELATES TO EACH ONE OF THE ENTRANCES EXITS FOR THE PROJECT. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER COMMENT. NO MA'AM. OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR. I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO THE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT OR SECOND

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ORDINANCE NO. XX-2023:  AN ORDINANCE OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, AMENDING AND RESTATING ORDINANCE NO. 08-2022, ESTABLISHING AN IDLE SPEED, NO WAKE BOATING RESTRICTED AREA IN THE OKEECHOBEE WATERWAY IN AN AREA SURROUNDING THE LAUNCHING AND LANDING FACILITIES LOCATED AT THE INDIANTOWN MARINE CENTER; AUTHORIZING AND REQUIRING THE OWNER OF THE INDIANTOWN MARINE CENTER PROPERTY TO APPLY FOR PERMITS, AND TO INSTALL AND MAINTAIN IN ACCORDANCE WITH SUCH PERMITS,  FLORIDA UNIFORM WATERWAY MARKERS FOR THE IDLE SPEED, NO WAKE BOATING RESTRICTED AREA; AND PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, FINDINGS, CODIFICATION, CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

AUTHORIZING REQUIRING THE OWNER OF THE INDIAN TOWN MARINE CENTER PROPERTY TO APPLY FOR PERMITS AND TO INSTALL AND MAINTAIN IN ACCORDANCE WITH SUCH PERMITS. FLORIDA UNIFORM WATERWAY MARKERS FOR THE IDLE SPEED, NO WAKE VOTING RESTRICTED AREA AND PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS.

FINDINGS QUANTIFICATION CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AS I EXPLAINED AT YOUR LAST MEETING, THIS IS A VERY, UH, SECOND READING OF VERY MINOR ORDINANCE RESTATING THAT SAME ORDINANCE THE COUNCIL CONSIDERED IN 2022, BUT RESTATING THE COORDINATES FOR THOSE MARKERS AND FOR THE LOCATION OF THE AREA IN THE NEW MANNER THAT FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE CONSERVATION COMMISSION WOULD LIKE IN DECIMAL FORMAT RATHER THAN DEGREES MINUTES AND SECONDS FORMAT. UH, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON SECOND READING. THANK YOU, SIR. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION. NO, MA'AM. ALL IN FAVOR. I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

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Discuss Funding for the Acquisition of Village Hall Building

WE DID GO OUT AND SECURE TO APPRAISALS ON THIS BUILDING FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE VILLAGE TO PURCHASE ONE WAS FROM INTEGRA REALTY RESOURCES. THEY VALUE THIS BUILDING AT $820,000. AND

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SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE SHOULD TAKE CARE OF. I THINK IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO HARDEN THIS FACILITY SO I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AGAIN. I JUST BECAUSE IT WILL BE COMING BACK TO NEXT MONTH. I DIDN'T WANT ANY SURPRISES, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE FULLY AWARE OF HOW WE WERE MOVING FORWARD. WELL, I KNOW THAT IN OUR DISCUSSIONS. I DON'T LIKE THAT. I KNOW I DON'T. UM, SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY PENALTY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A PIECE ARE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO SELL THAT? IN THE EVENT THAT IT SELLS . WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PAY OFF THAT DEBT SO WE WOULD BE DEBT

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THAT'S OUR INTENT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS CONCERNS. I'M NOT GONNA BE HERE FOR THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS. I'LL BEYOND JUNE, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA WORK. SO I'LL GIVE YOU MY TAKE ON IT. UM ONE OF MY FIRST MEETINGS WITH HOWARD BROWN. I THINK PAT WAS THERE. I WALKED HIM OUT THE BACK DOOR. I LOOKED AT THIS BUILDING. I SAID YOU NEED TO GO TO WORK.

PURCHASING THIS BUILDING. FORGET ABOUT A LOT. ABOUT THE TAJ MAHAL. AND PURCHASES BUILDING. I THINK IT'S WE'RE LUCKY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET IT. I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT. AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT QUICKLY. AND THAT. THAT IS PART OF LIFE THAT IS PART OF GROWTH. UH, THAT IS NOT A BAD THING. UH UM. HOW YOU BUILD YOUR CREDIT. SO. I JUST THINK WE NEED TO DO IT. THIS IS HOME. WE'RE GONNA PUT MONEY INTO IT MIGHT AS WELL ON IT. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. YES THANK YOU FOR STAFF ON WORKING DILIGENTLY FOR THIS. MY QUESTION IS, HAS THIS BEEN NEGOTIATED? AS IN THE PRICES THAT LIKE THE FINAL FINAL NUMBER? THAT'S THE FINAL NUMBER. 1 MILLION WET 6,060,000. IT'S EXACTLY IN THE MIDDLE OF INITIALLY, MR. UH, KIRK OFFERED MUCH HIGHER AMOUNT. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OFF OF THE ORIGINAL OF THE HIGHEST APPRAISAL WITH AN APPRAISAL A MILLION THREE. SO WITH THAT WITH US GETTING IT FOR A MILLION 60,000. YOU'RE ALREADY AHEAD OF THE GAME IF YOU WILL, AS FAR AS YOUR VALUE AND YOUR INVEST AND THEN THIS LOAN IS GOING TO BE TAKEN OUT WHERE FROM WHICH BANK? WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO RFP THAT OR NO, WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO RFP IT OKAY? WHAT DID THE FLORIDA LEAH CITIES DO THAT? I'M SORRY. I KNOW THEY HAVE MUNICIPAL ONE BONDS OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THE FLORIDA LEAGUE CITIES BONDS ARE JUST THE FANCY GOVERNMENT TERM FOR A LOAN . OKAY WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA SEEK THE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS AVENUE AS FAR AS INTEREST RATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM I MEAN, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA WANT TO MAKE THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS AS LOW AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. IN A IN AN AMOUNT LIKE THIS, YOU WOULD YOU WOULD JUST TAKE OUT THE LOAN. IT WOULD BE CALLED THE BOND WHEN YOU APPROVE IT. IF YOU'LL ISSUE A SINGLE BOND IN THE BANK WILL TAKE IT, BUT, UM BUT IT WOULD BE A BANK LOAN. UM AND WHICH BANK? I WOULD SPECULATE WHAT WE WOULD, UH, WHAT WE DO IS HAVE YOUR HAVE HAVE OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR GET A COUPLE QUOTES IN AN AMOUNT OF THIS SIZE. EVEN IF WE HAD THE TIME, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY RECOMMEND DOING A FULL OUR API FOR IT. YOU DO IT IF YOU ADDED A ZERO TO AT THE END OF THIS AMOUNT. IT'S REALLY NOT THAT HIGH FOR THE PURPOSES OF THAT. SO WITH THIS LOAN WE WILL BE INCLUDING AH! ADDITIONAL FUNDS SO THAT WE CAN REPAIR THE FACILITY. THIS FACILITY IS WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. I THINK THAT'S CRUCIAL IN REGARDS TO THAT. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO. SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. UM ADDITIONALLY TO THAT GRANTS THERE ARE GRADS, ESPECIALLY YOU KNOW HOW WE GOT SOME FOR THE CIVIC CENTER. I KNOW THERE ARE GRANTS. UM IN THE STATE IN REGARD TO THAT, SO YOU KNOW, HAVING THE GRIFFIN GROUP HELP US ON THAT AND WHOEVER ELSE IS OUR GRANT MANAGER. HELP US ON THAT. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. UM AND THEN I THINK, JUST. MY OTHER QUESTION WAS. WOULD THIS BE WITH INTEREST? WHAT? WHAT LET AND HOW MUCH WOULD BE THE INTEREST. WELL, WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GET THE QUOTES. YES YOU WILL HAVE ANY TIME YOU'RE DOING ALONE. THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO RECOUP THEIR COSTS. AND THEN SOME. SO BANKS. BANKS DON'T GIVE MONEY OUT FOR FREE, ESPECIALLY NO, DEFINITELY. NO THAT. WHAT ONE THING DOESN'T MEAN LIKE THE IDEA? 11 THING I CAN TELL YOU GENERALLY, AND YOU KNOW, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE ARE IN A HIGH HIGH INTEREST RATE HIGHER THAN WE'VE LIVED THROUGH IN THE LAST GETTING A BARGAIN. UM, HOWEVER, THE LOAN THAT YOU'LL BE TAKING OUT THE BOND THAT YOU WOULD BE ISSUING WOULD BE A WOULD BE TAX EXEMPT ALONE.

ALRIGHT THE RESULT BEING THAT BANKS WHEN THEY BUY THAT, UM WHEN THEY BUY THAT BOND. THEY

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START. GETTING THE PAPERWORK DONE IN QUOTES AND EVERYTHING SO I. I WE WILL. YEAH THANK YOU WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, ALL THAT THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER STONE. UH JUST A CURIOSITY. DID WE FIGURE OUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE PRICE? BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY GOOD DEAL. CALCULATED YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE THE OTHER SWEET, WHICH I HAVE NOT, UM RIGHT? I THINK IN TOTAL, IT'S LIKE 80. 8200 SQUARE FEET. ACTUALLY, I CAN. HAVING IN THE PURCHASE CONTRACT. I THINK I HAVE NOT DONE THAT CALCULATION PROBABLY JUST SOUNDS LIKE IT'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY GOOD DEAL. LOT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THIS BUILDING. AND AS FAR AS THE LAND GOES, I KNOW HISTORICALLY SAYS IN JANUARY INTEREST RATE TYPICALLY WOULD GO DOWN. SO IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET A BETTER PRICE FOR THAT LAND. AND THAT MIGHT JUST F Y I THE ONE PROPOSAL THAT WE RECEIVED IS HIGHER THAN WHAT THE VILLAGE PURCHASED THE PARCEL FOR. IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT A LOT, BUT IT IS AT LEAST POSITIVE SO THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE LOSING ANY MONEY SHOULD WE NOT MOVE FORWARD, BUT LIKE I'VE BEEN TOLD, I THINK IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS WE'LL HAVE MORE OFFERS. I AGREE WITH SO DOES STAFF HAVE DIRECTION. ARE WE GOOD? YEAH, WE'RE GOOD, OKAY? FANTASTIC SO. I MEAN, ANNOUNCEMENTS. ANNOUNCEMENTS GOING. OUR NEXT MEETING IS THE

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

[NEXT REGULAR MEETING (ANNOUNCE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION)]

WILL BE HERE. AND WE STAND ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.