Sep 21, 2023 Planning, Zoning, and Appeals Board

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THIS DAY. FROM ALL SAYING THAT OF YOURS. DEEP. ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG STATES OF AMERICA.

THANK YOU. REPUBLIC, WHICH IS. OKAY I'LL PUT IT NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF

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OKAY? GREAT BOARD MEMBER ON SOCCER. REMEMBER WILLIAMS? REMEMBER, WATSON REMEMBER PRESSLER? YES MILEY CHAIR PALMER. OUR REGULAR AGENDA. APPLICATION NUMBERS. C P A 23-05

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Application No. CPA 23-052 “River Oak”: Order granting Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Map amendment for the Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Map amendment concerning real property totaling 30.24-acres in size, located on the east side of S.W. Famel Boulevard, west of Fernwood Forrest Road, and north of the St. Lucie Canal, from Urban Residential Office and Village Core Mixed Use Land Use designations to Suburban Residential Land Use designation for River Oak Fernwood Holdings, LLC.

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Application No. RZ-23-040 “River Oak”: Order granting a request to Rezone real property totaling 30.24-acres in size, located on the east side of S.W. Famel Boulevard, west of Fernwood Forrest Road, and north of the St. Lucie Canal, from Neighborhood Mixed Use and Village Mixed Use to the Limited Residential zoning district for River Oak Fernwood Holdings, LLC.

OKAY ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS WHO INTEND TO PARTICIPATE AS A INTERVENER OR EXPERT IN THIS MATTER. ANY INTERVENER IS SOMEONE WHO FEELS THAT THEY MAY BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED GREATER THAN THE PUBLIC. OKAY? ARE THERE. ANY INTERVENERS HERE IS SO YOU, UM I WOULD NEED YOU TO YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT THE INTERVENER AND EXPERT WITNESS FORM. AND PROVIDED TO THE VILLAGE, KIRK CLERK. WHY DO YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE INTERVENER IN THIS MATTER? OKAY SO IS THERE ANY INTERVENERS OR BECAUSE AT THIS POINT AT THIS TIME, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO SPEAK RIGHT? OKAY? I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT OR NOT ACCEPT. WHOEVER TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING AS AN INTERVENER. ARE THERE ANY INTERVENERS? 16 9, ALRIGHT. OKAY? OKAY I'M GOING TO READ ANOTHER STATEMENT, OKAY? THIS ITEM IS QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE, WHICH REQUIRES OUR PUBLIC HEARING TO COMPLY WITH PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED IN FLORIDA LAW. QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS UNLESS THAN ARE LESS FORMAL THAN PROCEEDINGS BEFORE A CIRCUIT COURT BUT ARE MORE FORMAL THAN OUR NORMAL P. C. A B MEETING AND MUST FOLLOW BASIC STANDARDS OF NOTICE AND DUE PROCESS. OUR DECISIONS MUST BE MADE BASED ON COMPETENCE.

SUBSEQUENT YOUR EVIDENCE. PLEASE NOTE THAT ONLY COMPETENT, SUBSEQUENT SHAL FACT BASED TESTIMONY OR EVIDENCE WOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THE P C. A B AND ITS DELIBERATION AND VOTING ON THE ITEM ON THIS ITEM. PERSPECTIVE RELATION OUR MAYOR OPINION NOT BASED ON COMPETENT FACTS CANNOT BE LEGALLY CONSIDERED BY THE P C, A B AND WAITING AND WAITING, WAITING, WAITING, WAITING. THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE ITEM. TESTIMONY WILL FACE FACT BASED SUPPORT SUCH AS THE MINUTES SURVEYS, ENGINEERING REPORTS, ETCETERA MAY BE CONSIDERED COMPETENT AND SUBSEQUENT. OH, EVIDENCE. IF YOU INTEND TO SPEAK , PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME CLEARLY FOR THE RECORD , WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN AND YOUR QUALIFICATION OR INTEREST IN THE MATTER. WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU SIGNED THE SPEAKER SHEET THAT IS ON THE PODIUM. VILLA. UM. VILLAGE CLERK HAS THIS ITEM BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED? YES MA'AM. THIS ITEM HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED. AT THIS TIME, IF ANY, P C A B MEMBER HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THEM FROM VOTING ON THIS ITEM.

PLEASE DISCLOSE THIS FOR THE RECORD. COMPLETE THE REQUIRED VOTING CONFLICT CONFLICT FORM AND PROVIDED TO THE VILLAGE COLOR. BUT THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THIS AGENDA DO ANY BUDDY HAVE ANY CONFLICT. OKAY EACH MOMENT EACH MEMBER, OKAY? OKAY STAFF. YOU WILL PROCEED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM. OKAY. I'M SORRY. THOSE THAT ARE PRESENTING STAFF AND REMEMBER.

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WHAT. WE'LL GET THERE ON MY LAPTOP. DANIEL SIGNED DANIEL. GREAT.

OKAY, SO THAT WE JUST READ THROUGH THE SUMMARY OF THEIR REQUEST FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS, SO IT'S A COLOR ON THE MAP THAT'S REQUESTED TO BE AMENDED ON THE LAND USE THE EXISTING LAND USE BEING VILLAGE CALLED MIXED JUICE AND URBAN RESIDENTIAL OFFICE, AND THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT IS TO AMEND THAT TO SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE. THERE'S A LOCATION MAP THAT SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY EAST OF SOUTHWEST OF FORMAL BOULEVARD AND WESTERN FIRM WOOD FOREST ROAD NORTH OF THE ST LUCIE CANAL AND SOUTH OF SOUTH WEST MARKET STREET. THERE'S THE PARCEL CONTROL NUMBER OF IMPORTANCE IS THE NOTE THE BOUNDARY AND RED AND THE ACTUAL TOTAL ACREAGE IS 30.24 ACRES, WHICH IS THE REQUEST. AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS JUST TO REMIND YOU IS THE RIVER OAK APPROVED MAJOR SITE PLAN. WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT IN COMPARISON, THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE 55.25 ACRES. OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, WHICH HAD APPROVAL HAS APPROVAL FOR A MAJOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR 176 ATTACHED AND DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES THAT'S BEEN APPROVED. AND THEY'RE UNDERWAY WITH CLEARING, BUT THEY'VE REQUESTED THIS, UM LAND USE AMENDMENT AND A CONCURRENT ZONING THAT WE'LL HEAR NEXT. SO WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE IS, UM THE BOUNDARY AND RED SHOWS THE EXTENT OF THE WHAT'S VILLAGE CALLED MIXED JUICE AND URBAN RESIDENTIAL OFFICE. UM THAT'S THE 30.24 ACRES. AND THEN THERE'S THE SURROUNDING LAND USES. THAT ARE PROVIDED ON THE MAP, WHICH INCLUDE URBAN RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST. WE HAVE THE COMMERCIAL WATERFRONT URBAN RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST. THERE'S SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND THEN THERE'S SOME VACANT LAND.

UM THERE'S COMMERCIAL WATERFRONT WITH THE MARINA. THAT'S EXISTING . THAT'S THERE TO THE WEST AND SOUTHWEST OF THE PROPERTY. TO THE EAST, SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL AND TO THE NORTH IS ADDITIONAL VILLAGE MIXED USE. AND WHAT I DO. THERE ALSO IS DEPICT THAT THE VILLAGE CALLED MIXED USES 12.19 ACRES. AND THE URBAN RESIDENTIAL OFFICE. LAND USES 18.5. AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE EXISTING SO ZONING THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUESTING A CONCURRENT REZONING AND A SEPARATE GENDER ITEM. WHAT WE'VE GOT. THERE IS, IT CONFIRMS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE AND THE VILLAGE MIXED JUICE. ON THERE WE'VE GOT SO WE'VE GOT THE VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED CHEESE AND M AND THEN THE EXISTING REMAINDER OF THE RIVER OUTSIDE OF THIS APPLICATION IS THE LIMITED RESIDENTIAL RIGHT NOW. WE'VE GOT THE EGGS, AND THIS IS JUST TO REMIND YOU OF THE OVERALL EXTENT OF THE RIVER OAK SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS AT THE MOMENT THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT LAND USE DESIGNATIONS ON THIS PROPERTY. AND AGAIN, THE EXISTING ZONING SHOWS THAT THERE'S THREE SEPARATE ZONING DISTRICTS ON THIS PROPERTY WITH A LIMITED RESIDENTIAL ON THE REMAINDER OF THINK IT'S OVER 25 ACRES, WHICH IS ALREADY LIMITED RESIDENTIAL AND THE APPLICANTS REQUESTING A CONCURRENCE THAT REZONING FOR LIMITED RESIDENTIAL ON THE ENTIRE SITE. THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE LAND USE AND ZONING JUST IN TERMS OF TABLE FORM THAT SHOWS THE 12.19 VILLAGE CALLED MIXED JUICE. AND ALSO THE 18.5 URBAN RESIDENTIAL OFFICE. AND THEN IT ALSO

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PROPOSAL AND NEWS, SO WE CHANGED THE COLOR ON THE MAP. THERE THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. SO WHAT THAT SHOWS YOU IS THE EXISTING EXTENT OF THE SITE DEPICTED IN RED. IT ALSO SHOWS YOU THE EXISTING OTHER PART OF THE RIVER OAK AND THEN OBVIOUSLY FURTHER EAST OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY IS ALSO ALL SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S THE PROPOSAL AND USE. AND THIS IS A SUMMARY TABLE THAT PROVIDES THE DENSITY COMPARISONS, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT FACTOR WHEN LOOKING AT A LAND USE AMENDMENT IS WELL. WHAT'S THE EXISTING ALLOWABLE MAXIMUM DENSITY VERSUS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING BASED ON THE PROPOSED LAND USE? UM SO WHAT IT SHOWS IS UNDER THE EXISTING URBAN RESIDENTIAL OFFICE, THE MAXIMUM DENSITY ON THE PROJECT COULD HAVE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS UP TO 15 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH EQUATES TO 270 UNITS ON THE 18.05. ACRES OF THE PROPERTY AND THEN ON THE VILLAGE, CALLED MIXED USE. A MAXIMUM DENSITY IS ALLOWED UP TO 20 UNITS PER ACRE RIGHT NOW, WHICH EQUATES TO UP TO 243 UNITS ON THE 12.18 12.19 PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. AND THE PROPOSED SUBURBAN LAND USE WHAT IT SHOWS IS THE MAXIMUM DENSITY THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IS ACTUALLY A DOWNGRADE OR A LOWER THRESHOLD IN TERMS OF MAXIMUM DENSITY, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A MAXIMUM OF FIVE UNITS PER ACRE. SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN ACTUAL ENTITLEMENT BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE GOT RIGHT NOW UNDER THE CURRENT LAND USE AND THEIR SITE PLAN APPROVAL VERSUS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, WHICH IS EQUATES TO AROUND THE 30.24 ACRES. 151 UNITS. AND THEN ON THE OVERALL UM THE LAST COLUMN SHOWS RIVER ON THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, A MAXIMUM 25 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH EQUATES TO 276 UNITS ON THE PROPERTY. UM WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT LAND USE AND ZONING. WE'RE NOT HERE TO DO TODAY TO TALK ABOUT SITE PLANNING AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT WILL COME IN AS A SEPARATE REVISED FINAL SITE PLAN. IF THEY OBVIOUSLY LOOKED CHANGE THAT SITE PLAN TO BE CONCURRENT WITH THE COMPLIANT WITH THE LAND USE AND ZONING THE ASKING TO DO TODAY. SO WHAT WE'VE GOT THERE IS A SUMMARY OF THE MAP THAT SHOWS THE PROPOSED ZONING. WITH THE LIMITED RESIDENTIAL AND HOW THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THAT PROPERTY TO THE EAST. QUITE A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF THE PROPERTIES ALREADY LIMITED RESIDENTIAL, INCLUDING THE REMAINDER OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. SO THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS. WE RECEIVED THE APPLICATION AND INTAKE IT WAS TRANSMITTED AND COMPLETENESS REVIEW AND THEN A TRANSMISSION TO THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COLLEAGUES. WE REVIEWED AGAINST THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AGAINST THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. WE REVIEWED IT AND MADE SURE THAT IT WAS SUBMITTED AND REVIEWED AND ADVERTISING IMPORTANCE WITH THE FLORIDA STATE STATUTES AND THE DIVISIONS OF THE L D. R AND STAFF MADE A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. SO THE NEXT STAGE IS THE PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD, WHICH WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO DO, AND WE REQUEST A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PCB BOARD TODAY. UM THEN THE NEXT STAGE WILL BE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE VILLAGE COUNCIL AS UM, THE FIRST ROUND OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, THEN IT WILL BE TRANSMITTED TO THE STATE. AND THEN IT WILL COME BACK FOR A SECOND AND FINAL CONSIDERATION BEFORE THE VILLAGE COUNCIL AS A SECOND SEPARATELY ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE STATUTE, SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A SUMMARY OF HOW THIS WORKS FROM START TO FINISH.

SO VILLAGE STAFF OF OBVIOUSLY REVIEWED AGAINST THE CAMP PLAN, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS . WE'VE LOOKED AT THE EXISTING LAND USE AND ZONING PATTERNS, THE EXISTING USE PATTERNS. AND LOOKED AT THE EXISTING APPROVAL AND THE THRESHOLDS IN THE LAND USE. IN THE COMPREHENSIVE

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THANK YOU. OKAY, APPLICANT. GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR THE RECORD TO ADD MARRY WITH RED TAIL. NICE TO SEE YOU ALL. IT'S A GREAT EVENING. I WANT TO TRY AND MAKE THIS AS HOPEFULLY PAINLESS AS POSSIBLE. THIS IS A BORING TOPIC. THESE ARE BORING AREAS AND MY ON USUALLY THERE'S A BUTTON, BUT IT'S GREAT. PERFECT OKAY, SO I KNOW THIS IS OFTEN A CHALLENGING AREA, JUST GETTING INVOLVED IN ZONING AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GOING ON YOUR TASK TONIGHT? HOPEFULLY SHOULD BE EASY. I WANT TO MAKE IT SO IT'S SIMPLE FOR YOU. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT OBVIOUSLY BEING ONE OF THE FIRST THAT YOU ALL ARE REVIEWING. YOU WANT TO DO IT RIGHT? AND AS WE LOOK AT THIS PRESENTATION I'M SORRY. GREAT OKAY, THE PRESENTATION THAT I HAVE. I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT A LOT OF THINGS THAT STAFF HAVE ALREADY COVERED. BUT I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS REALLY SIMPLE AND EASY FOR YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WHEN WE GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE DO IS WE TRY TO LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

PUSHING IT, BUT IT DOESN'T WANT TO QUIT. OKAY? SURE. THERE WE GO. OKAY, PERFECT. SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IT'S WHAT OH, NO, I WAS DOING IT. YEAH. TRY I'M TRYING TO SLIP RIGHT THROUGH AND MAKE IT QUICK, SIMPLE AND EASY. I'M SORRY. THERE YOU GO. ONE OF THE KEYS THAT YOU'RE GONNA LOVE ABOUT THIS TONIGHT IS IF YOU REMEMBER WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN FERNWOOD. WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF THINGS WITH THEM, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL VERSUS THE AREA THAT HAS A LITTLE YELLOW CLOUD OVER IT. WE'RE NOT TOUCHING ANYTHING THAT'S IN THE AERIAL AS IT RELATES TO CHANGING LAND USERS OWNING FOR THAT AREA , AND MY PRESENTATION IS GOING TO SORT OF COVER BOTH OF THOSE AREAS JUST TO MAKE THINGS QUICK AND EASY. THE TOP AREA IS ALL WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING. WHY ARE WE DOING THAT? BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER ME REMEMBER, AND HIS STAFF HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR AREA FOR WHATEVER REASON, AND WE DON'T WANT TO POINT FINGERS AT WHO DID IT WHEN THEY PUT THREE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS. THEY PUT THREE DIFFERENT LAND USE DESIGNATIONS ON ONE SMALL AREA THAT DOESN'T NORMALLY EVER HAPPENED. AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 35 YEARS. I KNOW I LOOK YOUNG, BUT I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR THAT LONG. THAT'S NOT NORMALLY THE CASE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA I GOT INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT AFTER IT ALREADY STARTED, AND AS I BEGAN TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE APPLICANT AND GOING THROUGH THINGS I LIKE TO BE REALLY REALISTIC WITH WHAT HAPPENS AND SO IN MY MIND. I LOOK AT THE ZONING AND I SAY THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO DO. WHY ARE WE DOING THAT? AND I BEGAN TO TAKE HOMES, ACTUAL

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USE ONE COMPLETE ZONING DISTRICT . IT'S THE SAME FOR ALL AND FORTUNATELY, IT'S THE LEAST IMPACTFUL ZONING DESIGNATION OF ALL THREE WE TALKED ABOUT THE VILLAGE CORE MIXED USE. WE TALKED ABOUT THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL STAFF MENTIONED THOSE CHANGES. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IN THERE ON THE LAND YOU SIDE THAT IS WHAT YOU SEE IN TERMS OF THE ACREAGE 12 ACRES FOR THE 1 18 FOR THE OTHER. IT'S BIZARRE THE WAY IT'S SET UP. AND SO NOW WITH THAT WE ALSO HAVE OUR PROPOSAL ALL GOING TO BE ONE. SO HOPEFULLY THAT MAKES IT CLEAR WHEN IT COMES TO THE ZONING. AND I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT NOW THIS IS NOT ACTUALLY THE ITEM FOR IT. BUT WITH OUR PRESENTATION, IF YOU IF YOU WOULD GIVE ME THE LIBERTY TO DO THAT, LIKE TO SHOW YOU THIS IS WHAT THE ZONING WILL BE AND STAFF WILL TALK ABOUT THIS IN THEIR PRESENTATION. AGAIN. THREE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS WERE TAKEN THE TWO TOP ONES AND ELIMINATING THOSE DROPPING TO THE ONE THE KEY FOR THIS PROJECT. IS ABOUT A REDUCTION IN DENSITY. BUT LET'S ALSO BE CLEAR THE LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATIONS WOULD ALLOW FOR SOMEBODY IN THE FUTURE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN RESIDENTIAL. URBAN RESIDENTIAL OFFICE OFFICE DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S A RESIDENTIAL USE VILLAGE MIXED OR VILLAGE CORE MIXED IN THE VILLAGE. MIXED USE AGAIN THOSE ALLOW FOR OTHER TYPES OF USES. NOT THAT THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED. SO I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD YOU. YOU ALREADY APPROVED THE SITE PLAN FOR ONLY A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT. BUT LET'S SAY PROPERTIES ALL GET SOLD SOMETHING CHANGES. SOMEBODY COULD COME BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA BULLDOZE SOME HOMES, AND IF YOU ALL APPROVED IT, YOU COULD ALLOW THAT TO TAKE PLACE, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOU NOW. THERE WILL NEVER BE COMMERCIAL. THERE WILL NEVER BE OFFICE. THEY WILL NEVER BE ANYTHING THERE. BUT RESIDENTIAL UNLESS SOMEBODY DECIDED TO MAKE AN ENTIRE ZONING CHANGE AND LAND USE CHANGE AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. SO TO BE CLEAR.

SOMETHING WAS MORE DENSE AND MORE INTENSE. WE USED THE WORD DENSITY FOR RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THE WORD INTENSITY FOR COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL. IT'S LIKE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE DO YOU HAVE? THAT'S INTENSITY, IT'S NOT DENSITY DENSITY IS ABOUT HOW MANY DWELLING UNITS YOU HAVE. SO THOSE TWO THINGS TAKE PLACE. THE END. WHAT'S REALLY NICE IS YOU GET TO SAY TO PEOPLE. WE ALLOWED WITH THE CHANGE IN THE ACTION YOU DO TONIGHT AND JUST THAT 30 ACRES YOU WILL SAY WE WILL WE CUT OUT 364 POTENTIAL DWELLING UNITS. THAT'S A REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC. THE TRAFFIC DROPS BY 3432 TRIPS A DAY. AND THAT DROPS THE DWELLING UNITS BY DOWN TO 3 64. FOR THAT AREA. THAT BECOMES A WIN. WE'VE ALREADY WORKED THROUGH A SITE PLAN. TONIGHT'S NOT THE NIGHT WE'RE PRESENTING A SITE PLAN, BUT YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT AND IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE GOING TO BRING A NEW SITE PLAN BACK TO YOU. EVERYTHING IN THE BOTTOM AREA WILL REMAIN EXACTLY AS IT WAS. ALL THEERE THE DRIVEWAYS THE ENTRANCE WAYS ALL THAT REMAINS THE SAME. BUT WHAT WILL BE DIFFERENT IS WILL NOW HAVE WIDER LOTS. ACROSS THE BOARD YOUR SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. HAS A REQUIREMENT THAT REQUIRES WIDER LOTS SO EVERYTHING ACROSS THE BOARD WILL NOW HAVE WIDER LOTS. MORE TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES . WE'RE NOT BRINGING ANY TOWN HOME PRODUCTS. WE'RE NOT BRINGING ANYTHING. THAT'S ANYTHING BUT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES , SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY AND HOPEFULLY FIND IN THAT AREA. COULD YOU TAKE A QUESTION? YOU'RE NOT. THERE IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. LET HIM SANDWICH. NO QUESTIONS. OKAY BUT LET HIM FINISH. AND THEN, UM PARENTS IS FIRST AND THEN, OKAY? SORRY. DENSITY IS THE BIG KEY WITH THAT, AND THEN FROM THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS AS A RESULT OF THAT LOWER REDUCTION AND THAT IS AGAIN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH TRAFFIC AND OTHER FACTORS. WHENEVER WHEN I WHEN I DO TRAINING WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LAND USE DECISIONS, WHICH IS WHAT YOUR DECISION IS THE FIRST ITEM.

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IS THIS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA BY US CHANGING THE LAND USE AND BUY DOWN ZONING AND BY DOWN, CHANGING THE LAND USE? WE ARE MAKING IT MORE COMPATIBLE WITH NOT ONLY OUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT BUT WITH AS MUCH OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS POSSIBLE, AND THE THIRD IS CAPABILITY. AND THAT'S BIAS MAKING BY YOU MAKING A DECISION . ARE YOU MAKING SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY SOMEBODY IS CAPABLE OF DOING? AND THAT WAS SORT OF THE CASE. SOMETIMES YOU'RE LIKE, WOW, THAT'S GREAT THAT YOU'RE DOING THAT. BUT THESE LOTS ARE NOT CAPABLE OF HAVING COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL OR WHATEVER IT IS. SO WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THAT? SO THREE CS CONSISTENCY, COMPATIBILITY CAPABILITY AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES. ON ALL THREE WITH THAT, MADAM CHAIRMAN . GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, AND, UM, APPRECIATE THE TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. I HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE. SO LET ME CLARIFY. I LIKE TO CLARIFY THINGS. THIS MAKES SENSE PERIOD. I MEAN, THIS IS THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALL ALONG SO AS FAR AS THE CHANGE. I THINK THIS MAKES SENSE. HOWEVER WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT WE'RE GOING WANT SOMETHING THAT WE, UH DID BACK. I BELIEVE IN APRIL. IS THAT CORRECT? UH WITH THE 176 HOMES OR 179 HOMES GOING IN WAS A BIG DEAL ABOUT THE NUMBER OF HOMES OUT OF THE 600 PROPOSED THAT YOU COULD DO I'M HEARING YOU SAY IT'S REDUCING THE POTENTIAL, BUT WE WERE KIND OF SOLD ON A PLAN THAT REDUCED IT DOWN TO 160 76 UNITS. I'M HEARING I BELIEVE YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO UP THOSE UNITS. MAN CHAIR TO YOU WERE ACTUALLY DROPPING THE NUMBERS, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY THE PROPOSAL THAT'S BEING PROVIDED AND HAS BEEN SHOWN TO STAFF AS 134 TOTAL DWELLING UNITS.

COMPARED TO THE 176 WERE WHICH WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. BOARD MEMBER FIRST. UM THIS WITH LIMITED RESIDENTIAL IS NOT SINGLE FAMILY, UH, RESIDENTIAL. LTD RESIDENTIAL ALLOWS MORE THAN ONE DWELLING ON A LOT. SO ARE YOU PLANNING DUPLEXES? IN OTHER WORDS, ONE LOT WITH TWO DWELLINGS ON IT. YES GREAT QUESTION. AT THIS POINT. WE'RE PLANNING ALL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS WHAT OUR PROPOSAL IS SO THAT'S THE GOAL IS TO MINIMIZE THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND MAKE SOMETHING EXCUSE ME THAT FEELS AS NATURAL FOR THAT AREA AS POSSIBLE. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE PLAN MYSELF. I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREA BUILDERS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN BEING A PART OF THIS PROJECT, AND ALL OF THEM AT THIS POINT ARE ALL DEALING WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. NONE OF THOSE ARE DUPLEX AT THIS POINT.

SO IF YOU'RE PLANNING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WHY DON'T YOU CHANGE THE ZONING TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES? GOOD QUESTION. WE ARE NOT TRYING TO OVERTURN THE APPLE CART AND WE'RE TRYING TO MATCH EXISTING. WHAT IS THERE AND SO WITH A LIMITED RESIDENTIAL, WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED? WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GO THROUGH AND COMPLETELY CHANGE THINGS. BUT WE KNOW AND THIS IS THE NICE THING WHEN YOU KNOW IN YOUR HEART THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY COMING AND CHANGING, IMPROVING SOMETHING, MAKING IT BETTER. THAT WAS SORT OF AN EASY SOLUTION FOR US. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU'RE ON THE WEST SIDE OF FEMALE. THAT'S ALREADY NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE, SO WE'RE CUTTING OUT ELIMINATING ALL THOSE ELEMENTS. SO THIS IS REALLY WHAT IS ALREADY EXISTING FERNWOOD IS LIMITED RESIDENTIAL. WE'RE MATCHING THOSE FOR THAT AREA. REMEMBER ONE ANY QUESTION. ADDITIONAL BREAKS. MY JOB HERE. I THINK THIS REFLECTS POINTS.

THE DEVELOPER. HEARD ME RANT. IS YOUR MIKE IS YOUR MICHAEL ON? IT IS NOW, I GUESS. OH WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PICK THAT UP AGAIN, BUT ONCE AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO THANK MR MALLORY FOR AN EXCELLENT JOB. I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE DEVELOPER WHO I THINK HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AND CONSIDERING WHAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR INDIAN TOWN, THE THREE DIFFERENT LAND USES, AS WE SPOKE BEFORE WOULD ALLOW ALMOST 600 UNITS ON THAT PROPERTY, AND OBVIOUSLY THEY'VE TAKEN THE TIME

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HAVE IN YOUR WHAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE THEY CONSIDERED, UH INCOME SENSITIVE HOUSING. GOOD QUESTION. AND MADAM CHAIR. I APOLOGIZE. IF THIS MAYBE WASN'T AS CLEAR BEFORE AND PRESENTATIONS THE GOAL AT THIS POINT IS THAT THESE ARE ALL GOING TO BE OWNED BY THE MASTER DEVELOPER, AND THESE WILL BE FOR RENT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES SO THAT PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO COME IN AND THEY'RE NOT BUYING A 350 OR $400,000 HOUSE. THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF A COMMUNITY THAT WILL HAVE THAT. SO THERE THERE. INDIVIDUALS WILL NOT HAVE OWNERSHIP CORRECT. YES BUT THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE WORKED OUT WITH THE TOWN AS WELL . THIS IS SET UP WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS, NO PARKING CARS WHATSOEVER ON THE LAWNS ALL THE VARIOUS THINGS, SO IT'S GOING TO BE SET UP SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE IN IN A RENTAL COMMUNITY, BUT WITH EXTENSIVE RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE, SO THAT WAY THINGS ARE NOT JUST HAPHAZARDLY DONE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. IT'S REALLY BECOME SORT OF A NATIONAL TREND. UNFORTUNATELY MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE FINDING THAT IT'S BECOME REALLY HARD TO GET A MORTGAGE INTO AFFORD IT. I MEAN , THIS WE'RE IN TIME WHERE INTEREST RATES ARE ABOVE 7% RIGHT NOW, BUT MOVING FORWARD ACROSS THE NATION. AND IF YOU WHEN YOU GO HOME TONIGHT AND DO A LITTLE GOOGLE SEARCH, YOU'LL SEE NOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS WHAT THEY'RE CALLING LILY CLUSTER DEVELOPMENTS. CLUSTER DEVELOPMENTS ARE LITERALLY SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL HOME COMMUNITIES THAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING, I DON'T WANT TO BE IN AN APARTMENT COMMUNITY. I LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. MY KIDS DESERVE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. WE WANT THAT FEELING. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T FEEL MORE LIKE A REGULAR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT'S WHERE THE TREND IS GOING WITH. A LOT OF THESE IS THAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY. I LOOK AT MY KIDS AND MY OLDEST IS 24. AND AS I LOOK AT THINGS, HOW IS IT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE INTO A HOME AND DO I HAVE TO COME ALONG AND HELP THEM NOW WITH THE MORTGAGE? OR CAN THEY GET INTO SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS THEM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT FEELING WITHOUT FEELING LIKE THEY'RE STRAPPED TO THE GILLS AT THIS POINT? WELL AS THE TREND IS GOING UM, RENTS. GRANT IS. 2000 AND UPWARD, AND THAT'S EVEN TO RUN. UH, ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT. YOU KNOW YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'RE RIGHT. KIDS ARE MOVING BACK HOME. BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE RENT. ALL RIGHT, UM YES. SOME, OKAY? LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION AND JUST REITERATE THAT THE REASON THIS IS A RENTAL PROPERTY IS BECAUSE IT'S IN AN OPPORTUNITY ZONING LEFT TO HOLD IT FOR 10 YEARS. IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT ANSWERS. THE QUESTION IS WHY THEY'RE NOT FOR SALE IS AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE OPPORTUNITY ZONES ARE SET ASIDE TO BRING IN DEVELOPMENT INTO OUR COMMUNITY,

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THE PEOPLE PAYING RENT CAN ACTUALLY USE THEIR RENT TO BOOST THEIR CREDIT. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ASK THEM THESE QUESTIONS. WILL THEY HAVE THESE AUTOMATED SYSTEMS THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO ASSIST PEOPLE IN BUILDING THEIR CREDIT USING RENT, WHICH IS NEW? UM AND SO YOU CAN BUILD SOMEONE'S CREDIT IF THEY MADE PANTS TO AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM THAT CAN BE TRACKED. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO LOOK INTO THAT, AS THEY DO THAT. THAT WILL ASSIST A LOT OF PEOPLE IN BUILDING THE CREDIT, OKAY? SO UM , I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS YOUR NAME AGAIN? SURE TODD MAORI. MR. MURRAY? YES, MA'AM. SO. IN LIGHT OF WHAT BOARD MEMBER ON SAYING GO SAND. IS THAT PART OF WHAT? BECAUSE YOU ARE GETTING IT. SHE IS SHE IS. I'M I'M IMPRESSED.

IT'S A GREAT TO SEE HOW MUCH KNOWLEDGE SHE HAS OF THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. AND THAT IS ACTUALLY WHY, UM, THE DEVELOPERS ARE COMING INTO THE AREA IS THAT THEY LOOKED AT THE FACT THAT NOBODY SEEMS TO BE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A VERY OPEN SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM FOR YOUR COMMUNITY, RIGHT? WELL THEY GET THE TAX INCENTIVES TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND SO, YES, BUT IT'S OBVIOUSLY A RISK. FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING INTO A COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A TRACK RECORD FOR ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS. THEY'RE SPENDING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF THEIR MONEY COMING IN AND HOPING THAT THIS PROGRAM WILL BE YOU KNOW, EFFECTIVE FOR THEM IN DOING THAT, SO IT BECOMES A PARTNERSHIP ARRANGEMENT. BETWEEN THE TOWN AND BETWEEN YOU AS YOU THINK ABOUT THIS. EVERYBODY HAS TO SORT OF, SAY. WE HAVE TO DEVELOP A RELATIONSHIP, AND I THINK YOU KNOW, STAFF WOULD AGREE TO THE FACT THAT WE REALLY TRIED TO DO THAT. WE'VE ALL SHARED INFORMATION AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE SURPRISES, AND WE DON'T WANT SURPRISES. IT IS A CHALLENGE. ANYTIME YOU BRING SOMETHING NEW AND DIFFERENT. IT'S A CHALLENGE FOR THOSE NEIGHBORS NEARBY. I CAN APPRECIATE THE CHANGE, HAVING DRIVEN BY THE SITE MANY TIMES AND LOOKING AT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. IT'S ALWAYS DIFFERENT WHEN YOU SEE AND FEEL SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'RE USED TO. BUT GROWTH HAS THOSE PAINS AND WE LOOK AT SOME THINGS AND I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE END SAYS WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO BE STRONGER BETTER, BUT SOMETIMES HOW WE GET THERE AND WHAT WE DO IS THE CHALLENGE . MADAM CHAIR, ANOTHER STATEMENT REAL QUICK, THESE THESE, UM, OPPORTUNITIES DON'T ARE GEARED TOWARDS BUILDING A COMMUNITY.

THEY WERE DESIGNED AND LEGISLATION TO HELP ENCOURAGE A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE IN COMMUNITIES SUCH AS OURS, SO IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY TO GET IT HELPS OUR SCHOOLS. IT HELPS OUR TAX BASE. THEY DO GET SOME INCENTIVES. BUT I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S ANYTHING NEAR ENOUGH TO, UH YOU KNOW, MAKE THEM MONEY. THEY'RE NOT MAKING MONEY OFF OF IT. BUT IT DOES GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE RATHER THAN PALM BEACH OR STEWART OR PORTS. ST LUCIE AND THANK GOODNESS THAT IT DOES BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE PAYING TAXES ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE RESIDENTS FOR THAT 10 YEARS THAT'S GOING TO BE SO WONDERFUL FOR OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST A PASSIVE TAX. RIGHT NOW , BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE VILLAGE WAS DESIGNED. WE HAVE VERY LITTLE TAX REVENUE. AND IF WE WERE TO LOSE F P AND F, YOU KNOW, PEEING FBL POWER LIKE IF WE WERE TO LOSE THEM. OH, MY GOODNESS. WE'D BE IN TROUBLE AND WE HAVE A WATER SYSTEM TO BUILD, WHICH IS YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF MONEY. THIS THIS DEVELOPMENT COMING IN AND THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'VE APPROVED TO COME IN. WITH THESE PROGRAMS ARE GOING TO ASSIST IN PAYING FOR ALL OF THAT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN EMOTION TO

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THERE'S A GREAT DIFFERENCE FOR LOTS CLOSER DOWN TOWARDS THE PALM DRIVE PINEVIEW INTERSECTION . YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S HIGHER AND THEN IT'S GOES LOWER AS YOU GO TOWARDS CHAIR. WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. RESPECT EACH OTHER. MIGHT NOT DISCUSSING THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, MADAM CHAIR. WE'RE DISCUSSING THE PROPERTY AT THE TOP. LET HER FINISH AND THEN YOU AND SCOTT CAN LET'S LET'S STICK TO THE MATTER AT HAND. THAT'S OKAY. IT'S NOT THE MATTER AT HAND. WHAT WHAT IS IT? UM UM, JUST THAT THE RESIDENTS SOME THAT ARE HERE DON'T GET MUCH OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT. AND UM THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. HE GAVE ME AGREE.

WELL, I JUST THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT. THANK YOU. ANYWAY. ALRIGHT. THAT'S NOT THE, UM THANK YOU, MADAM. IF I MAY. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY, SIR. UM YEAH. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT WE'RE HERE SPEAKING ABOUT THE PART THAT IS NOT CONNECTED TO THAT, THAT THAT THAT WHOLE CONVERSATION WAS ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT. I WOULD REMIND. EVERYONE WAITS. NOT HERE TONIGHT, DISCUSSION IS TO BE ABOUT THE APPROPRIATENESS OF A LAND USE CHANGE AND GETTING INTO SITE PLAN ISSUES AND ALL THAT STUFF IS INAPPROPRIATE.

WE'RE GOOD. OKAY BUT I'M BUT LET ME LET ME FINISH FIRST. IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR US TO TALK ABOUT OTHER ISSUES THAT MAY INFLUENCE THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS OF THIS BOARD. WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT A LAND USE CHANGE. FUTURE LAND USE CHANGES APPROPRIATE OR NOT, AND THAT'S OKAY. GIVE THAT LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION. OKAY, MOTION. UM. WHAT ABOUT. REMEMBER ON SOCCER BOARD MEMBER WILLIAMS BOARD MEMBER WATSON. YES REMEMBER PRESSLER? YES, MEMBERS TO HAYEK. VICE CHAIR, MILEY PALMER. HE'S HERE. YES. HOWEVER SPORT MEMBERS HIGH YET IS WE'VE GOT. HE'S NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE BASED ON WHAT BOARD MEMBERS SAID. OKAY, OKAY. SO. IT'S STILL

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CAN WE JUST HAVE EVERYBODY TURN OFF THEIR MICS? JUST WHILE WE DO THIS? YEAH. YES.

YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

YES. GO AHEAD. FORWARD. INDIVIDUAL. I. FOUR. WHAT.

QUESTIONS ON.

YES. YES THIS ITEM HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED IN THE RECORD REFLECTS THAT.

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I KNOW. I SPOKE TO A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FERNWOOD FOREST. WHAT. TURN IT ON. WHAT. I CAN'T HEAR YOU. OKAY OKAY, EVERYBODY CAN TURN THE MICROPHONES BACK ON NOW.

OKAY STAFF, WOULD YOU PROCEED? YES SO DINA FREEMAN WITH THE COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AS DIRECTOR, HAVING WORKED WITH STAFF AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COLLEAGUES AS A PRESENTATION FOR THE REQUEST FOR THE REZONING PART OF THE SECOND AND AN INDEPENDENT PUBLIC HEARING FOR RC 23-040. UM, SO THE PRESENTATION. SO A REQUEST TO REZONE ON 30.24 ACRES SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED JUICE AND VILLAGE MIXED USE TO LIMITED RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. TO PROVIDE THE LOCATION MAP. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF DUPLICATION WITH THE LAND USE PRESENTATION, BUT IT SHOWS THE LOCATION AND THAT IT'S A 30.24 ACRES LOCATED OFF OF CHEMO BOULEVARD WEST OF FERNWOOD VIRUS ROAD AND NORTH OF ST LUCIE CANAL AND SOUTH OF THE SOUTH WEST MARKET STREET. WE'VE GOT THE RIVER OAK. IS THAT THE RIVER OAK PROPERTY, JUST SHOWING THE EXTENT OF IT BEING 55.25 ACRES. AND THAT WITH AN APPROVAL FOR THE 176. ATTACHED AND DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES MAJOR SITE PLAN. AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE EXISTING LAND NEWS THAT WAS JUST APPROVED, BUT JUST SHOWS THE EXISTING VILLAGE CORE MIXED USE VILLAGE URBAN RESIDENTIAL OFFICE IN SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL LAUNCHING, CORRECT IT'S A RECOMMENDATION FROM APPROVAL FOR YOU. BECAUSE THE PLANNING ZONING OF AN APPEALS BOARD SO WHAT WE SHOW THERE IS THE VILLAGE CALLED MIXED USES 12.19 ACRES, URBAN RESIDENTIAL OFFICES, 18.05 ACRES. AND AGAIN, I'M REMINDING YOU OF THE LAND USE AND THE VILLAGE CALLED MIXED USE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL URBAN RESIDENTIAL OFFICE. AND WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE IS THE EXISTING ZONING WITH THE VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD. MIXED USE AND VILLAGE MIXED USE. ON THE PROPERTY. AND THAT AGAIN IS SHOWING THE EXTENT OF THE ENTIRE RIVER OAK DEVELOPMENT. AND THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE TABLE THAT WAS PROVIDED FOR THE LAND USE. UM SAME INFORMATION, 12.19 ACRES AND 18.05 AND THEN A REMAINDER OF WHAT'S NOT, INCLUDING THE APPLICATION IS 25.01 ACRES WITH SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL AND LIMITED RESIDENTIAL. AND THIS IS A SITE AND SURROUNDING SUMMARY, WHICH INCLUDES THE MAP. IT WORKS WITH THE MAP. IN TERMS OF EXISTING RESIDENTIAL STORAGE WAREHOUSE RIVER OAK. SINGLE FAMILY AND BACON AND THEN THE INDIAN TOWN MARINA. WE'VE GOT THE PROPOSAL OWNING IS LIMITED RESIDENTIAL.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE ZONING DISTRICT COMPARISON CHART. WE'VE GONE INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN THE ZONING BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN YOU GET THE LAND USE GIVES YOU THE OVERALL COLOR ON THE MAP. IT GIVES YOU THE MAXIMUM DENSITIES. IT GIVES YOU A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS ALLOWED UNDER THAT LAND USE DESIGNATION. BUT OBVIOUSLY THE ZONING DISTRICTS WHICH ARE INCLUDED IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. PROVIDE SOME BREAKDOWN AND INFORMATION ON ON THE FIRST ROW. IT TALKS ABOUT DENSITY AND WE ALREADY TOUCHED ON THAT IN THE LAND USE WITH THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT ARE ALLOWED UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING NEIGHBORHOOD. MIXED USE. IT'S 15 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH EQUATES TO ABOUT 270 UNITS ON 18.5 18.05. ACRES AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE EXISTING ZONING VILLAGE VILLAGE MIXED USE. WHICH IS ALLOWS A MAXIMUM OF 20 UNITS PER ACRE AND IS 243 UNITS ON 12.19 ACRES. AND THEN ON THE OVERALL 32.30 0.2 FOR THE PROPOSED ZONING WILL BE A MAXIMUM OF FIVE UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE LAND USE. AND THIS OBVIOUSLY IS A CARRY THROUGH TO THE L. D. R S AND THE ZONING DISTRICT

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SUBSCRIBE FEET. THE MINIMUMS AND A LOT OF DEATHS ARE LARGER. WE ALSO SORRY. UM WE ALSO LOOK AT UM YES, WE LOOK AT LOT COVERAGE AND WE'VE GOT THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE IS BROKEN DOWN ON THE SECOND TO LAST COLUMN. IT'S ABOUT 80% AND 67% AND 75% FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE, AND THEN IF YOU GO DOWN TOWARDS THE END COLUMNS, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE PROVIDED AND CONFIRMED.

IT'S THE MAX MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE OF 65% FOR LIMITED RESIDENTIAL FOR PROPOSED, UM MULTIFAMILY AND. SINGLE FAMILY AND THEN THE ATTACHED IS AT 75% AND THEN ACROSS THE BOTTOM LINE IS JUST ABOUT HEIGHT AND BUILDING HEIGHT MAXIMUMS. AND THE MAXIMUM 28 FT UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING AND 35 FT AND THREE STORIES. THE HIGH DOES ALLOW UP TO 40 FT AND THREE STORIES FOR THE PROPOSED LIMITED RESIDENTIAL THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE DONE IS STAFF IS WE'VE SUMMARIZED SOME OF THE PERMITTED USES THAT ARE ALLOWED ON THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. MIXED USE AND THE VILLAGE MIXED USE AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE THERE IS OBVIOUSLY DISTINGUISHES, UM, FOR THE BEST PART OF ALL OF THE MULTI FAMILY IS ALLOWED IN ALL OF THE THREE THE TWO EXISTING ZONING AND THE PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED IN TOWNHOUSES ALLOWED IN THE EXISTING TO EXISTING ZONING AND THE PROPOSED LIMITED RESIDENTIAL. UM AS IS TO FAMILY IS ALLOWED. ACROSS THE BOARD. ZERO LOT LINE IS ALSO ALLOWED IN ALL THREE ZONING DISTRICTS. HOME OCCUPATION IS ALLOWED. AND THEN THE LIVE WORK UNIT GOES AWAY BECAUSE THAT WAS ALLOWED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

MIXED USE. WHAT I ALSO DO, AND I DON'T NEED TO LITERALLY READ THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THEM. YOU CAN READ THROUGH THE SLIDE THERE, BUT WHAT THE EMPHASIS IS ON THE A LOT OF THE COMMERCIAL USE THAT IS ALLOWED RIGHT NOW UNDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MIXED JUICE AND THE VILLAGE MIXED USE PORTIONS ON THE EXISTING ZONING DOES COVER QUITE AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL. PERMITTED USE, AND THAT GOES AWAY WITH THE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DAYCARE FAMILY, ALL OF THOSE COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY WERE THE APPLICANT NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPMENT IS HOUSING. ALL OF THOSE LISTED USES, INCLUDING FUNERAL HIGHER ARMS. CREMATORIUM CONVENIENCE STORE ARE ALL PERMITTED, AS IS A GAS STATION ON PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, AND THERE'S RETAIL SALES, LARGE AND SMALL AND VETERINARY CLINICS. ALL OF THAT , AS YOU SEE ON THE THIRD COLUMN, WHERE THEY'RE ALL JUST THE DASHES MEANS THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED UNDER THE PROPOSED LIMITED RESIDENTIAL SO THE PROPOSAL AND USE THE SUMMARY. YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THAT MAP BUT SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL THAT YOU RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUSLY FOR TO MOVE FORWARD FOR APPROVAL. AND

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AGAIN MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR THE RECORD, TODD MURRAY WITH RED TAIL. WE GAVE A PRESENTATION EARLIER AGAIN. HAVE THAT REPEATED WE PROVIDED STAFF. REPORT AND WITH ALL OF OUR ANALYSIS FOR ANY QUESTIONS TO ANSWER THOSE WHO LOOK FORWARD TO AND AFFIRMATIVE RECOMMENDATION FROM YOU TO, UM VILLAGE COUNCIL THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER BECAUSE I'D ANSWER THOSE AT THIS TIME. OKAY ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. CURRENTLY HAVE SOMETHING . ATTORNEY. NO. IT LOOKS LIKE. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? SO OKAY. THANK YOU. SHE UM, BOARD MEMBER GOT IT FOR YOU. OKAY? TURN YOUR MY PHONE. THE FOLLOWING OKAY? MY NAME IS DOTTIE HAD AWAY I LIVE IN FIRM WORK FOR US. ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE ST LUCIE CANAL. AND THE ELEVATION OF THIS PROJECT IS A BIG CONCERN TO ME. I DON'T WANT TO LIKE IN MY BACKYARD. DO YOU? ARE YOU LOOKING TO STAFF TO COMMENT, OR YOU JUST IS THAT YOUR STATEMENT? THAT'S MY STATEMENT. VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ELEVATION OF THIS PROJECT AND WE, YOU KNOW WE'VE LIVED THERE FOR ALMOST 42 YEARS. NEXT MONTH WILL BE 42 YEARS I'VE LIVED IN THAT HOUSE. YOU CAN TELL. I'M NOT A TEENAGER ANYMORE, AND I REALLY DON'T WANT TO MOVE. BUT I DON'T WANT TO LIKE IN MY BACKYARD. OKAY? OKAY, UM. THAT'S OUT. SHE MADE A STATEMENT. I'M ASSUMING. ARE YOU LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER OR JUST MAKING A STATEMENT? ARE YOU MAKING A STATEMENT AND I WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER BECAUSE HE DID TALK. OKAY, UM MR MARI. WOULD

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WATER DISPERSEMENT PLAN. THEY ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY WILL BE DONE. I ASSURE YOU WILL BE VERY STRICT. SINCE YOU ARE NEAR THE ST LUCIE RIVER. THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH RUNOFF. FOR THE THING THAT DEVELOPER WILL BE HELD TO A VERY HIGH STANDARD BY THE STATE AND BY THE END, BUT YOU CAN BE A, UM I BELIEVE THAT YOU WILL FIND TAKE CARE OF THAT. UH, WE OWN ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY WEST OF TOWN WHERE WE HAVE AN ORANGE GROVE AT ONE TIME. AND WHEN THEY DID READ WHEN THEY REDID FOX BROWN ROAD, THEY ROUTED ALL THE WATER OF MAN AND WE LOST ALL OF OUR ORANGE TREES.

SO I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THE COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. WELL THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BOT, AND UNFORTUNATELY IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT WITH THIS THEY ARE HELD TO A VERY HIGH DEVELOPMENT STANDARD, ESPECIALLY WHERE IT COMES TO WATER RUNOFF ANYWHERE NEAR THAT ST LUCIE RIVER. SO I FIND I THINK I'M HOPING AND PRAYING ALONG WITH ME. THAT THEY DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DIRECTED TO DO. I THINK YOU'LL FIND IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE D O T. UNFORTUNATELY THE BOT PUTS THE ROADS WHERE THE ROADS GO. AND THEY GO WELL, THEY JUST REDID. THEY REDID ALL THE DRAINAGE RIGHT? AND I DIDN'T THERE WERE WAYS THEY COULD HAVE DRAINED IT AND THEY DIDN'T AND I, YOU KNOW , I'M JUST A LITTLE GIRL, BUT I KNOW THAT WATER RUNS DOWNHILL. YES, MA'AM. IT DOES. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. UM, MY MOM SINGER. OKAY. ARE WE READY TO VOTE? GO AHEAD. I REITERATE MY EMOTIONS TO PASS. OKAY? FILL THIS CARD. MHM. WE CAN HEAR YOU. BOARD MEMBER ON SOCCER MEMBER WILLIAMS BOARD MEMBER WATSON MEMBER PRESSLER. YES, MEMBERS TO HAYEK. VICE CHAIR. MILEY CHAIR, PALMER. YES. OKAY? PAST. UM

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THE CHANGES SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. AND IN REVIEW. WE'VE GOT A MULTITUDE. UM WE'VE HAD SOME PRE APPLICATIONS, SO THERE'S NOT THAT MANY CHANGES IN THEIR, UM, THE CANDLE INDUSTRIAL EAST COAST METAL. TWO OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME IN WITH EAST COAST METAL HAS GONE THROUGH THE FIRST ROUND OF REVIEW, AND KENDALL INDUSTRIALS GOT THREE LOTS OF, UM THAT THEY'RE DOING IS THREE SEPARATE SITE PLANS, BUT THAT'S FOR CONCRETE, CONCRETE MANUFACTURE. AND WE'VE ALSO HAD A PRE APPLICATION, WHICH WAS THE 28 30 HOLDINGS, AND THAT'S QUITE EXCITING TO BECAUSE THAT'S A BOAT MANUFACTURER REPAIR BUSINESS ON THE PROPERTY, SO THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD. UM, THAT'S IT IN TERMS OF SUMMARY SORRY. YOU'RE OKAY. SO THAT'S REALLY THE END OF THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THIS IN TERMS OF MORE OF A VISUAL MAPS, UM AND MOVING FORWARD. I'M JUST PLAYING CATCH UP AND WORKING WITH, YOU KNOW THE TEAM SO WE CAN MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL. SO THAT'S THE END OF STAFF PRESENTATION. OKAY DID YOU SEND THAT HAVE TO DO WE HAVE THAT? SEND THE PACKAGE. OKAY OKAY. IT'S AN BECAUSE HE BOUGHT MEMBER WILLIAMS COULDN'T SEE. THAT'S WHAT WAS ASKING, COULD YOU? YOU KNOW, AND I THINK BOARD MEMBER WATSON HE COULDN'T SEE EITHER. OH, LORD, I THINK WE'RE LEARNING THAT WE NEED TO DO LARGER TAXED PRESENTATIONS. UM OKAY. WE'LL GET BORED MEMBER. ALRIGHT UM, BOARD MEMBER VICE VICE CHAIR, HAVE A QUESTION OF COMMENT. YEAH, I HAVE MORE SO OF A COMET . UM, I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO SAY THAT MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT WE HAVE OUR DIRECTOR'S REPORT IN PERSON AT OUR MEETINGS PERSISTS IN THE METHOD OF AN EMAIL AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE AS I STATED IN OUR LAST MEETING. IT'S VERY IT'S VERY INCONVENIENT THAT WE RECEIVE NOTIFICATIONS THE MONDAY PRIOR TO OUR MEETING THAT DOES NOT GIVE US ENOUGH FOR ME. I SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND DOES NOT GIVE ME ENOUGH TIME TO REVIEW THE INFORMATION THAT I NEED TO REVIEW AND BE PREPARED TO BE HERE. THAT STOWE'S E. SO I WOULD LOVE IT IF YOU COULD GET THAT OUT TO US, AT LEAST BY THE FRIDAY PRIOR TO OUR MEETING. AND STAFF CAN APOLOGIZE FOR THE FACT THAT YOU GOT IT ON THE MONDAY INSTEAD OF THE FRIDAY WE'RE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES, BUT WE'RE AIMING FOR THE NEXT AGENDA WILL BE DEFINITELY BY THE FRIDAY AND WE CAN ONLY APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, OKAY? AND WE ALSO HEAR YOU REGARDING THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, THEN. ADDRESS. ALL HEARTS AND MINDS ARE CLEAR. BEING IS AD

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