Apr 27, 2023 Regular Meeting

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GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. WELCOME TO THIS VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF APRIL THE 27TH 2023 IF WE COULD HAVE THE ROLL CALL. ABSOLUTELY MAYBE GIVES THOMAS HERE MOONSTONE COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ HERE. COUNCIL MEMBERS APOLLO HERE.

COUNCILMAN PRESS HERE. THANK YOU FEW QUICK HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS. PLEASE PUT YOUR CELL PHONES ON SILENT OR VIBRATE. WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD FUN GOING. WE DON'T WANT YOU TO CONTRIBUTE TO IT. IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY. THE EXITS ARE TO YOUR RIGHT AND TO YOUR LEFT, AND THEY'RE MARKED ACCORDINGLY. BATHROOMS OR TWO YEARS LEFT STRAIGHT THROUGH THE DOOR. ALSO YOU WILL SEE AT THE FRONT OF YOUR AGENDA. THE CIVILITY CLAUSE, CIVILITY IS EXPECTED AND REQUIRED BY THE PUBLIC AND THE COUNSELOR. LIKE IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK THIS EVENING, YOU WILL HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK. AT THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT. THAT OPPORTUNITY IS FOR AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. AND THEN IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE NOTATED ON YOUR SPEAKER FORM. YOU NEED TO FILL ONE OUT EITHER, EITHER, UM, OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE. MAKE SURE THAT YOU FILL OUT A SPEAKER FORM THAT IS OVER THERE AT THE TABLE, FILL IT OUT AND GET IT TO THE CLERKS OVER HERE ON YOUR LEFT HAND SIDE.

WHEN YOU ARE CALLED TO THE PODIUM, YOU WILL BE CALLED TO THE PODIUM. PLEASE MAKE SURE THE LITTLE GREEN LIGHTS ON MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE CLOSE TO THE MIC SO EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU. SPEAK PLAINLY AND ALSO IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD. OH, THE INVOCATION THIS EVENING WILL BE GIVEN BY BROTHER RICK WILLIAMS. PLEASE STAND FOR THAT AND WE WILL REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. KIND FATHER IN HEAVEN. WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE BLESSINGS . WE HAVE THIS FINE FACILITY AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE HERE IN INDIAN TOWN. WE'RE GRATEFUL.

FOR THE HARDWORKING LEADERS THAT . SO FREELY GIVE THEIR TIME AND EFFORTS TO MAKE THIS A BETTER PLACE. WE ASKED THAT THEY SPIRIT BE WITH US THIS EVENING THAT WE MAY HAVE THE SPIRIT OF UNITY THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND BE PROMPTED. THAT WE MAY FIND WAYS TO MAKE THAT WORK ROLL FORTH AND IN IN THE VINEYARD THAT AH! THAT THE INSPIRATION WILL BE WITH US AND WE'LL HAVE A SPIRIT OF UNITY IN OUR MEETING. AND BE ABLE TO CIVILLY DISCUSS. WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THE IMPORTANT FUTURE OF INDIAN TOWN? AND THIS PRAYER WE GIVE IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. AMEN. ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS HAVE PULLED

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Proclamation for Autism Acceptance Month.

AUTISM ACCEPTANCE MONTH APRIL OF 2023, WHEREAS APRIL IS AUTISM ACCEPTANCE MONTH, WHICH PROVIDES OUTSTANDING OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE OUR KNOWLEDGE, UNDERSTANDING, ACCEPTANCE AND APPRECIATION OF AUTISM, AS WELL AS ALL LEVELS OF DISABILITIES AND OUR CONTINUED EFFORTS TO PROMOTE INCLUSIONARY ENVIRONMENTS FOR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES. THE ARTISTIC SELF ADVOCACY NETWORK HAS CALLED APRIL AUTISM ACCEPTANCE MONTHS SINCE 2011 SAYING ACCEPTANCE OF

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TREATMENT AND THESE ARE. HE WANTS PICTURES FOR WARFIELD'S WEBSITE.

LADIES. WHO WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING? INTRODUCE YOURSELF. MAKE SURE THE GREEN LIGHTS ON.

SO I'M JULIE. AND THIS IS I'M JULIAN. THIS IS JEAN AND WE ARE SO HONORED TO TEACH AT WAR FIELD AND TO BE A PART OF THE GREAT CLASS THAT WE ARE IN. WE KNOW THAT AUTISM IS CONSIDERED MEDICALLY AND EDUCATIONALLY A DISORDER A DISABILITY, BUT WE CONSIDER A DIFFERENT ABILITY AND WE ARE SO PROUD OF THE CHILDREN WE TEACH, AND WE ARE SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU ARE HAVE DECIDED TO ENTER THIS MONTH AS ART IS A MONTH AND INDIAN TOWN I'M JEANNE. RIGHT THANK YOU. ALL SO MUCH FOR HAVING US AND FOR THE PROCLAMATION FOR AUTISM AWARENESS. JULIE AND I HAVE BEEN TEACHING FOR 34 YEARS IN THE LAST 12 YEARS HAS BEEN WITH ARTISTIC CHILDREN. AND I THINK THE. THE BEST WAY. TO SUM IT UP WOULD BE WITH THREE A'S AWARENESS WHICH WE'RE DOING NOW AND ACCEPTANCE, WHICH WE WANT TO DO IN OUR COMMUNITY AND EVERYWHERE AND THEN ADVOCACY. WE ALWAYS WANT TO ADVOCATE NOT JUST FOR ARTISTIC CHILDREN BEFORE ARTISTIC ADULTS AS WELL BECAUSE THERE ARE PART OF US AND THEY'RE ALL AROUND US. AND WE JUST THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US AND WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, LADIES. THAT'S RATHER IT, UM. THAT THAT THAT'S REALLY AMAZING . NEARLY 70 YEARS OF TEACHING EXPERIENCE BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM. YOU KNOW YOU YOU STARTED WHEN YOU WERE JUST YOUNG YOUNG. YOUR BABIES. OKAY NEXT, WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER THREE, PROCLAIMING

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Proclaiming May 4, 2022, as National Day of Prayer in the Village of Indiantown.

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ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BRUCE BUTLER, PASTOR OF THE FAMILY WORSHIP CENTER HERE. AN INDIAN TOWN. UM MAYOR. GIBBS THOMAS ASKED IF I WOULD JUST SHARE A FEW WORDS WITH YOU ALL REGARDING THE NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER. SHE'S GIVEN SOME OF THE HISTORY OF IT. I'D LIKE TO GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK EVEN AND READ A PASSAGE. THAT THE WISE KING SOLOMON, UH GAVE IN REGARD TO ASKING GOD TO BLESS HIS PEOPLE. THEY HAD HAD SOME ROUGH DAYS. IF YOU KNOW THE HISTORY OF SOLOMON'S PEOPLE, AND HE PRAYED AND ASKED GOD TO PROVIDE AND TO HELP TO PROTECT HIS PEOPLE AND GOD'S RESPONSE, YOU CAN FIND IT IN SECOND CHRONICLES CHAPTER SEVEN. I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE WHOLE PASSAGE. IT SAYS THIS THEN, IF MY PEOPLE WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME WILL HUMBLE THEMSELVES AND PRAY. AND SEEK MY FACE AND TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS I WILL HEAR FROM HEAVEN.

AND WILL FORGIVE THEIR SINS AND RESTORE THEIR LAND. UH, I GOT A COUPLE OTHER THOUGHTS I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU. IN 18 63 ABRAHAM LINCOLN SAID. WE HAVE BEEN THE RECIPIENTS OF THE CHOICES BOUNTIES OF HEAVEN. WE HAVE BEEN PRESERVED THESE MANY YEARS IN PEACE AND PROSPERITY. WE HAVE GROWN IN NUMBERS, WEALTH AND POWER IS NORTHERN NATION HAS EVER GROWN. BUT WE HAVE FORGOTTEN GOD, AND WE HAVE FORGOTTEN THE GRACIOUS HAND, WHICH PRESERVED US IN PEACE AND MULTIPLIED AND ENRICHED AND STRENGTHENED US, AND WE HAVE VAINLY IMAGINED IN THE DECEITFULNESS OF OUR HEARTS THAT ALL THESE BLESSINGS WERE PRODUCED BY SOME SUPERIOR WISDOM AND VIRTUE OF OUR OWN. INTOXICATED WITH UNBROKEN SUCCESS. WE'VE BECOME TOO SELF SUFFICIENT TO FEEL THE NECESSITY OF REDEEMING AND PRESERVING GRACE AND TOO PROUD TO PRAY TO THE GOD THAT MADE US THAT WAS ABRAHAM LINCOLN GOT A COUPLE MORE IF YOU BEAR WITH ME. HE ALSO SAID THIS I HAVE BEEN DRIVEN MANY TIMES UPON MY KNEES BY THE OVERWHELMING CONVICTION THAT I HAD NOWHERE ELSE TO GO. MY OWN WISDOM AND THAT OF ALL ABOUT ME SEEMED INSUFFICIENT FOR THAT DAY. AND ANOTHER WISE LEADER WAS GREATLY BLESSED OUR NATION, DR MARTIN LUTHER KING JR SAID. WE MAY HAVE COME HERE AND DIFFERENT SHIPS, BUT WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT NOW AND SO A REMINDER THAT PRAYER IS NECESSARY. HE SAID. THIS GRANT THAT I MIGHT NOT PRAY ALONE WITH THE MOUTH HELPED ME THAT I MAY PRAY FROM THE DEPTHS OF MY HEART AND CERTAINLY THAT'S WHAT NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER IS INTENDED. TO BE ON NEXT THURSDAY AT 12 NOON WILL BE GATHERING AT THE POST PARK AT THE PAVILION FOR A SEASON OF PRAYER FOR OUR NATION AND OUR NATION COULD REALLY USE PRAYER AND WE INVITE YOU TO COME AND BE A PART AND LOOK FORWARD TO IT. AND THANK YOU FOR THE PROCLAMATION. WE WILL TAKE IT HOME WITH US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND UM, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK BROTHER BRUCE. FOR BEING IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR THE PAST

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Proclamation for Municipal Clerks Week.

AND ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION. THAT YOU CREATED IT. YEAH IT SEEMS A LITTLE SELF SO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE WATCHING THAT YOU ON THIS ONE. THANK YOU. AND ITEM NUMBER

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Proclaiming Boys and Girls Club Youth of the Year for Martin County.

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MY NAME IS LUIS RAMIREZ. I AM 15 15, YEAR OLD FRESHMAN IN THE END IN HIGH SCHOOL AND I PARTICIPATED IN THE YOUTH OF THE YEAR COMPETITION FROM MARIN COUNTY. UM ONE THING ABOUT IT IS I NEVER REALLY SAW IS THAT COMPANY? I NEVER SAW HIS IT. I NEVER SAW IT AS A COMPETITION.

BUT AS A WAY TO GET OFF OF THE MESSAGE. A MESSAGE WAS, UM, WERE GIVEN A LIFE WITH MANY BLESSINGS. AND THE BUSSING COULD BE A FAMILY MEMBER OR FRIEND AND OPPORTUNITY AND ARM OR LEG. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE HAVING FAR WORSE THAN THEIR PEOPLE, INCLUDING ME WHERE WE'VE COMPLAINED ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE. EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE IS A DREAM COME TRUE TO ANOTHER. AND I REALLY I NEVER EXPECTED TO ATTEND A COUNCIL MEETING OR TO RECEIVE AN AWARD FOR IT. BUT I GUESS IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT, AND THIS SHOWS THAT YOU RECEIVED . GOOD THINGS ARE GOOD THINGS FROM YOUR LIFE AS LONG AS YOU I WANT TO DO GOOD THINGS AND YOU WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS AWARD AND YEAH. THANK YOU. HOW DID STATE GO? IT WAS IT WAS INTERESTING. I WAS AT A RESORT IN PERSON, LUCY FOR LIKE, THREE DAYS AND I DIDN'T END UP WINNING , WINNING ANOTHER GIRL NAMED BY MIA. SHE ENDED UP WINNING FOR STATE. THAT'S PRETTY COOL, THOUGH, BUT YOU HAD IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE. WHAT? WHAT HIGH SCHOOL? DO YOU GO TO INDIAN TOWN HIGH SCHOOL? YEAH. INDIAN TOWN HIGH SCHOOL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU. NOW WE

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I'M FROM INDIAN TOWN MARINE CENTER RIGHT HERE IN INDIAN TOWN. UH ACTUALLY ADDRESSED THIS COUNCIL LAST YEAR. AND THIS ISSUE THAT WHAT I'M SPEAKING ABOUT TODAY IS IN A SIMILAR VEIN. ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I ATTENDED A CITY OF STEWART SPECIAL MEETING WHERE BRIGHT LINE OUTLINED THEIR PLANS TO START SERVICE OVER THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILWAY BRIDGE, WHICH GOES OVER THE OKEECHOBEE WATERWAY, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE IN INDIAN TOWN. AND IT BECAME PRETTY CLEAR THAT THAT THE VOLUME IS SERVICE THAT WAS GOING TO START GOING OVER THAT BRIDGE IS GOING TO BE RESTRICTIVE TO THE MARINE TRAFFIC THAT NEEDS TO PASS THROUGH THAT AREA. SINCE THAT TIME. UH MINDY TAMARIN CENTER MYSELF. WE'VE BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN THE MARINE INDUSTRIES ASSOCIATION OF THE TREASURE COAST. TAKING SEVERAL ACTIONS, INCLUDING TRAVELING TO WASHINGTON, D. C TO MEET WITH OUR SENATORS AND OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES UP THERE, AS WELL AS UNITED STATES COAST GUARD WHO IS THE GOVERNING BODY OVER THE REGULATION THAT GOVERNS THE F E C. RAILWAY DRAWBRIDGE. AND WE'RE APPROACHING. A PERIOD HERE WHERE THAT BRIDGE IS GOING TO BE CLOSED FIRMLY FOR THREE WEEKS IN ORDER TO DO MAINTENANCE ON THE BRIDGE AND THREE WEEKS IS A LONG TIME TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF STRUCTURE CLOSE AND IT'S GONNA DAMAGED BUSINESSES ON THE OKEECHOBEE WATERWAY, INCLUDING INDIAN TOWN MARINE CENTER, INCLUDING INDIAN TOWN MARINA, AND IT ALREADY HAS THE BIGGEST BOAT THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE YARD SO FAR. I HAD TO LEAVE EARLY THIS MORNING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET OUTSIDE THE BRIDGE IN TIME. SO IT'S BECOME PRETTY CLEAR TO, UH OUR COMPANY AND SEVERAL OTHERS THAT THE COAST GUARD IS NOT TAKING STEPS TO DEFEND THE MARINE THOROUGHFARE THE RIGHT OF WAY ON THAT WATERWAY. AND SO WE HAVE ENGAGED THE SERVICES OF A LAW FIRM OUT OF PHILADELPHIA. COHEN SEGUE LIUS AND WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND FILE SUIT AND FELLOW COURT TOMORROW. AND WE'RE HERE TO ASK THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN TO SIGN ON AS A PLAINTIFF WITHIN THAT SUIT AT NO COST TO THE VILLAGE AT ALL. AND, UH, SHOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE, UH. THE VILLAGE COUNCIL, THEN WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INVITE MAYOR THOMAS TO DOWNTOWN STUART ON MONDAY. AT SOME POINT, I THINK IT'S AROUND MONDAY AFTERNOON, FOUR O'CLOCK DOWN THERE BY THE UH, HUDSON'S ON THE RIVER WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEWS CONFERENCE WITH REPRESENTATIVE BRIAN MAST. SO WITHIN THAT.

THAT'S OUR REQUEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I WAS AWARE OF THIS, SO I WILL. I WILL ADDRESS

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THANK YOU. SO UM, HOPEFULLY I DON'T LOSE. PEOPLE WITH MY COMMENT. BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT I WAS TOLD ON A PARTICULAR. SUBJECT THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE YOUTH SPORTS IN INDIAN TOWN. UM, I WAS TOLD THAT LAST MEETING. THERE WAS A PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. THAT RAN AND PROMISED TO HELP MAKE SURE THE USE PROGRAMS OR LOOKED AT AFTER THE REQUEST OR SUPPORT SUPPORT THAT THEY'RE ASKING. THE FIRST ATTEMPT THAT I WAS TOLD HAPPENED IN 19 4020, AND IT WAS A BASKETBALL PROGRAM. UM AND APPARENTLY COVID HIT AND THAT WENT DOWN THE DRAIN. AFTER THAT , I WAS ALSO TOLD THAT A MASTER PLAN IS BEING WORKED ON AND THAT OUR FIELDS ARE GOING TO BE BETTER. UM WE HIRED A COUPLE OF EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE VILLAGE TO MAKE IT ALL COME TOGETHER AND TIME IS GOING BY AND AGAIN NOTHING IS HAPPENING. UM I WAS ALSO TOLD THAT THE VILLAGE HAS ALL THE MEANS TO HELP THE TRANSPORTATION BY EQUIPMENT UPGRADE FIELDS. AND ALL I HEAR IS WE NEED VOLUNTEERS. WE NEED VOLUNTEERS. BUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE THAT HAS TO HAPPEN TO HAVE ANY AWARDS PROGRAMS. IN THE VILLAGE OF UNION TOWN. I MYSELF HAVE TO DRIVE ABOUT 45 MINUTES. EVERY WEEK, THREE TIMES A WEEK BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THAT AGE GROUP HERE. UM THE KIDS HERE. ARE IN A DISADVANTAGE WHEN THEY GET TO HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE NONE OF OTHER SPORTS ARE BEING OFFERED WITHIN THE VILLAGE. WE'RE WAITING FOR THE VILLAGE TO GET BIGGER. HAVE MORE POPULATION. IN OUR MASTER PLAN HAS NEVER BEEN RULED OUT. YEARS AND YEARS AGO BY WE TALKED THAT, YES, WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT A FEW $100 IS NOT GOING TO GET US ANYWHERE WE NEED TO HAVE. WE RESIDENTS NEED TO SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING. THE PARKS ARE STILL IRAQ. YOU KNOW PEOPLE POST THINGS WITH PICTURES, ACTUAL CURRENT PICTURES SHOWING YOU HOW IT'S FALLING APART SHOWING YOU HOW THEY'RE NOT BEING MAINTAINED, SHOWING YOU HOW THEY'RE NOT BEING IMPROVED. AND I JUST DON'T KNOW. WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG? I UNDERSTAND GOVERNMENT HAS THIS PROCESS. BUT AGAIN, WE PARTICIPATE AND WE SUPPORT AND OTHER OTHER ACTIVITIES IN TOWN. THAT ARE NOT YOUTH RELATED, AND WE SEE THE ACTUAL MONEY THAT GOES INTO THAT. BUT NOTHING FOR THE YOUTH . IT'S JUST NOT FAIR. I MEAN, IT IS TIME TO ROLL THE SLEEVES AND GET IT DONE. THANK YOU. NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS PENDING HERE.

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YOU KNOW, MEDALS AND SEE. YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BRING THE KIDS OUT. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE GOT TO TRY IT OUT FIRST. I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, I'M I'M NEED TO IT SO, BUT I DID. LIKE I SAID, THIS DAD WANTED TO BRING IT AND HE'S LIKE MAYBE WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN. I SAID I ALL I CAN DO IS ASK. I DON'T KNOW. WHATEVER MY ACCOUNT, FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBER STINK. DO YOU? DO YOU HAVE THE AGE BRACKET ALREADY HAVE THE AGE BRACKET, SO IT LOOKS LIKE. IT WOULD CONSIST OF 5 TO 18 YEAR OLD SO THE BRACKETS WILL CONSIST 5 TO 78 TO 10 11 TO 13 14 TO 16 AND, OF COURSE, THE 17 18 YEAR OLD BECAUSE WE CAN'T FORGET THEM. WE TEND TO FORGET, YOU KNOW THE OLDER KIDS, BUT, HEY, WE GOTTA WE GOTTA, YOU KNOW, MOTIVATE THEM TO CONTINUE. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN BLESSED WITH THIS GROUP OF KIDS FROM HIGH SCHOOL. HE STARTED WITH MY SON AND WE'VE BEEN BLESSED TO SEE THEM GROW UP. SOME OF THEM WILL GRADUATE COME NEXT MONTH. COME MAY AND IT'S VERY EXCITING TO SEE THEM GROW UP. STAY ON THE RIGHT PATH. AND, YOU KNOW, ALL I TOLD HIM IS LIKE GUYS, WE GOTTA GRADUATE. WE GOTTA GRADUATE, YOU KNOW, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO FORGET THE OLDER KIDS. SO WE INCLUDED THE 7 TO 18 YEAR OLD. BRACKET AND THAT IS THAT IS AWESOME DODGEBALL. YOU GO FROM THE LITTLE GUYS HAVING FUN UNTIL THEY VERY OLDEST. THAT THAT GETS REALLY IT COULD BE THE START OF SOMETHING. HEY, LET'S LET'S SEE HOW THIS ONE GOES, YOU KNOW, FROM MAY AND JUNE AND MAYBE WE COULD DO ONE BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS BACK UP IN THE FALL. YOU KNOW, IT'S WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE TRY. YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO SEE WE GOT TO TRY IT OUT. WE GOT TO WING IT, YOU KNOW, AND I WILL BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER. LET'S GET THE KITTLES BESIDES SOCCER OUT THERE, LET'S TRY DODGEBALL. I THINK I'M ALL FOR IT. I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT. I THINK IT WOULD BE. IT COULD WORK. YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT. YEAH THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED IN TOWN. YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO LIVE THROUGH SPORTS. LIKE I SAID, MY SON DOES TRAVEL SOCCER AND POND CITY. I DO GET WHAT ANNA SAYS. I GO TO NICE AND THEN I TRAVEL UP AND DOWN FLORIDA. BUT YOU KNOW, I WANT TO INVEST IN MY COMMUNITY, SO I SPLIT MY TIME, HALF TIME IN PALM CITY AND THE REST YOU'LL CATCH ME OUT OF BIGNELL PARK. ABSOLUTELY. JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS THINK I THINK IT'S GREAT. WE'LL START MAY 12, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S A WEIGHT QUESTION ABOUT THE LIABILITY. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS BEING THIS WILL BE A VILLAGE SPONSORED EVENT SPONSORED ADMINISTERED RUN EVENT ON YEAH, RUN OR JUST ON VILLAGE. WELL, WE DON'T HAVE AN ORGANIZATION FOR DODGEBALL, SO IT WOULD CONSISTS OF A VILLAGE COULDN'T YOU JUST ASK? YOU'RE ALREADY ON THE ANY TOWN ATHLETICS ASSOCIATION JUST TRY TO DO IT UNDER THEIR UMBRELLA.

ONLY I JUST DON'T KNOW. WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING AND I WANT TO START THIS. LIKE MAY 12TH YEAH, AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY LET'S WE CAN CHAT ABOUT THIS HERE REAL QUICK. SO ALL RIGHT, SO IT WOULDN'T BE NECESSARILY A UH, THE VILLAGE ADMINISTRATIVE EVENT. IT'S USED THE FIELDS WERE SPONSORING BY LETTING HIM USE THE FIELDS AND SO ON. THIS WOULD THIS WOULD BE LIKE ANY OTHER SET OF FOLKS GOING OUT AND USING USING THE FIELDS PERFECT, SO I MEAN, WE HAVE LIABILITY INSURANCE ON THE USE OF OUR FIELDS EVERY TIME A KID GOES OUT THERE TO USE IT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE THING I WAS THINKING. IT'S LIKE, OKAY. OH, THE LIABILITY. WE HAVE INSURANCE. SO I DON'T SEE ANY GREAT CONCERN FROM THAT STANDPOINT. SO DOES THE FULL COUNCIL. ARE WE IN AGREEMENT? YEAH. YEAH YEAH, YEAH. COME OUT THERE AND REFEREE. YEAH LET US KNOW IF YOU NEED HELP. I WILL OFFER. YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA CALL YOU LIKE MISS THOMAS. HEY CAN YOU WRAP THAT THAT'S THE LITTLE ONES LITTLE BITTY ONES THAT'LL WORK AND LET US KNOW THE SCHEDULE. I WILL ALREADY I WILL POST TOMORROW. AND THEN MY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENT IS. COULD WE BRING YOU SPORTS ONTO THE AGENDA? YOU KNOW, I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, FIRST TIME BEING ON COUNCIL. WHAT'S OUR COMMITMENT LEVEL AS VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE AS VILLAGE OR LIKE, ARE WE YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER COUNTIES DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS THERE? YOU KNOW WHAT ARE THEY COMMITTED TO? WHAT'S OUR LEVEL OF COMMITMENT? YOU KNOW? DO WE VOLUNTEER? DO WE GIVE A DONATION OF FOR THE

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SOCCER. COULD WE CALL? IT'S A COMBINATION OF SOCCER, HOCKEY AND BASKETBALL. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WE'RE NOT GONNA KNOW I GOT TOLD SEAN I DON'T KNOW IF I KNOW I WAS SOCCER, BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT WHAT IT ENTAILS TO BE TO DO A LACROSSE TEAM. WHICH WOULD BE AMAZING, YOU KNOW, STARTS THEM ALL ONE GROUP OF BOYS AND ONE GROUP OF GIRLS WHO WANT WHO WANT TO TRY THIS SPORT BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT'S A HIGH SCHOOL SPORT TOO. SO HEY, MAYBE WE START THEM YOUNG ENOUGH. WILL FEED WE PLAN TO SEE IT AND WE'LL SEE IT BLOSSOM. BUT, HEY, THAT'S JUST ME THINKING BECAUSE I HAVEN'T REALLY TACKLED THAT ON. AND MY OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW I WENT BACK AND WATCHED THE COUNCIL MEETING FROM LAST WEEK. AND ALL I WANT TO SAY IS THAT LET'S LET'S BE POLITE TO EACH OTHER AND PROFESSIONAL. AND RESPECT EACH OTHER. OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ALWAYS GONNA AGREE AMONGST EACH OTHER'S DECISION. BUT I REALIZED PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THESE MEETINGS LIKE PEOPLE. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT UNTIL A REPORTER FROM TC PALM REACHED OUT TO ME, AND SHE'S LIKE, HEY, I WANT TO INTERVIEW YOU BECAUSE I HEARD YOU HAVE BREAST CANCER. I'M LIKE YOU ACTUALLY WATCHED THE COUNCIL MEETINGS? I'M LIKE SHE'S LIKE, YES, I'M LIKE. OH OKAY. YOU KNOW , I'M NEW TO THIS, SO I DID. I WASN'T AWARE THAT YOU KNOW PEOPLE WATCH OR COUNCIL MEETINGS. BUT THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. YES THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. I JUST WANTED IT. FIRST OF ALL THINK THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT BOARD MEMBER THAT CAME TO OUR LAST MEETING, AND SHE ESSENTIALLY SAID SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT THAT I ALWAYS SAY. I THINK THAT THIS COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL THAT THAT BOUGHT THE WATER SYSTEM BOUGHT IT AT THAT TIME BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THE PROJECTS WE ARE DOING NOW UPGRADING SYSTEM SYSTEM WAS OUTDATED. THIS IS SOMETHING IMPORTANT FOR THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, AND IT WAS SOMETHING IMPORTANT AT THAT TIME THAT WE WERE GETTING A LOT OF PUSHBACK. ON IT. UM, BUT WE PUSHED THROUGH IT. WE BOUGHT IT AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS IN REGARDS OF GIVING US THE 18 MILLION LAST YEAR AND THE 20 MILLION THIS YEAR IN ORDER TO IMPROVE THE WATER QUALITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS OF WHY I WANTED TO BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WAS BECAUSE I WAS BEING IMPACTED MYSELF BECAUSE I WAS GETTING BACK UP IN MY HOUSE OF SOON. RAW SEWAGE. AND IT WAS REALLY HORRIBLE BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE ABOUT A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORS HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCE AND IT'S ALL AND THERE WOULD BE ALL OVER TOWN. SO, YOU KNOW. BEING ONE OF THE PRIMARY PUSHERS FOR THE WATER SYSTEM AND GETTING AND SEEING THINGS HAPPEN, LIKE SEEING THE WORK HOW YOU KNOW NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO CONNECT INDIAN TOWN HIGH SCHOOL INTO OUR WATER SYSTEM. BUT SEEING EVERYTHING HAPPENED NOW IT'S SUCH A GREAT FEELING, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY. THIS IS GOING TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS.

THIS IS GOING TO GIVE THEM A BETTER QUALITY OF WATER, AND I THINK THE PRIOR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CURRENT COUNCIL MEMBERS S STILL ON THOSE BOARDS THAT WERE THERE DURING THIS HARD DECISION WHEN, UM PEOPLE WERE TELLING US NOT TO BUY IT, SO I THINK UH, THE RESIDENTS FOR BEING WITH US, UM THROUGH THIS, UH, TIME BECAUSE IT TAKES TIME. UM SOMETIMES I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW HOW STAFF TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY IT'S LITERALLY WE'RE DOING THINGS LIKE AND. LIKE A RACEWAY HERE. WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD A WHOLE SYSTEM AND TRY TO, YOU KNOW, UPGRADE, SO I THINK THE

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WE WANT THE BEST FOR OUR KIDS, AND WE WANT OUR KIDS TO HAVE THE BEST OPPORTUNITY. TO GET THAT SCHOLARSHIP TO GET THAT. EDUCATION THAT THEY NEED. SO WE NEED TO HAVE IT WE NEED I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DATE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WORKSHOP FOR THAT. MY SECOND SUBJECT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE PROMISED THAT PROMISED THAT WHEN WE INCORPORATED THIS VILLAGE IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS. IT'S TIME TO GET MOVING. OKAY? SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A WORKSHOP FOR THAT ALSO, AND IT'S NOT. IT'S IDENTIFYING A PIECE OF LAND. IDENTIFYING WHAT DEFINE.

UNAFFORDABLE HOUSE THAT SOMEBODY CAN BUY. WHAT'S THE PRICE TAG ON IT? AND HOW MANY PEOPLE IN INDIAN TOWN THAT WANT THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAN ACTUALLY QUALIFY FOR IT. SO WE'RE PROBABLY IF WE HAVE A WORKSHOP AND WE START WORKING ON THIS TODAY. IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A GOOD TWO YEARS BEFORE YOU START SEEING THE FIRST HOUSE COME OUT, SO THAT GIVES YOU TIME NOT ONLY TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM BUT TO GET. PEOPLE QUALIFIED THAT MAY NOT BE QUALIFIED. THEY MAY BE QUALIFIED, BUT THEY MAY NOT THE LAST THING THAT I WOULD WANT TO SEE IS FOR US TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE. NOW THAT WE PROMISED US TO CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY THAT HOUSE.

DEFEATS THE WHOLE PURPOSE. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE A WORKSHOP FOR THAT. AND THAT WAY WE CAN BRING IN. YOU KNOW BUILDERS. YOU CAN BRING IN. COUNSELORS CREDIT COUNSELORS. BANKS JUST DO IT RIGHT. HAVE THE WHOLE PACKAGE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT? TO COME. SO WE KNOW WE GOT 100 PEOPLE THAT WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSE. SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND WE STRUCTURE IT AND GET IT DONE AND FULFILLED. THESE PROMISES THAT WE'VE MADE. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. AND ON ON THE OTHER END OF THE STRUCTURE OF MARK FREEMAN IS HERE AND HE'S GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION ON

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WELL, IF I WAS A BUILDER, AND I READ THAT OLD ER MIGHT SAY, WELL , LET ME GO. REPORT. ST LUCIE, LET ME GO SOMEPLACE ELSE BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO GO FIGHT WITH CITY HALL. SO WE MY WHOLE OBJECTIVE HERE IS TO GET RID OF THAT WORDING. THAT DISCOURAGES GATED COMMUNITIES. BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED THEM JUST LIKE WE NEED EVERYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR STONE.

YES. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. UM. AS FAR AS YOU IT'S CORPSE PROGRAM 100% WITH YOU GUYS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING TO YOUR AGENDA ITEM IF YOU DON'T MIND AS FAR AS STAFF TO BRING BACK AN UPDATED INFORMATION AS FAR AS WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. SO THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE AN IDEA AS FAR AS WHERE WE ARE. SO JUST IN ADDITION TO COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ ITEM. UM ALSO, THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME TO USE THE VILLAGE. VAN TO TAKE THE FOOTBALL TEAM UP TO ORLANDO. THEY ACTUALLY WON REGIONAL, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TRY FOR STATE.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT. APPRECIATE IT. AND THAT'S IT. WOW. OKAY AS FAR AS THE VENUES, EGELAND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY PUBLICLY SAY THAT WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT THAT WE HAVE MADE HAD THERE HAS BEEN A REQUEST MADE TO THE VILLAGE TO USE THAT, SO LET'S LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT VERY QUICKLY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. UM I KNOW IT IN THE PAST. WHEN SORRY.

ALSO TALK ABOUT MY EMAIL BECAUSE I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THAT. YEAH. AND I'LL NEED TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR EMAIL. UM GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND. LET ME LET ME ADDRESS IT JUST MORE.

GENERALLY, I KNOW IT HAD BEEN UM PRIOR MANAGERS PRACTICE WHEN THERE WAS TIME. AND THAT'S KIND OF A RELEVANT THING HERE WHEN THERE WAS TIME TO COME TO YOU ALL AND GIVE YOU ALL THE HEADS UP AND OR GET PERMISSION OR APPROVAL OR WHAT HAVE YOU USED THE VAN FOR SOME PARTICULAR THING OR OTHER? UM IN IN THIS INSTANCE HERE, I KNOW THERE'S AN EXPRESSION FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THERE WAS NO OBJECTION TO IT. AND SO ON. THE VAN IS PROPERTY OF THE VILLAGE, AND IT'S IN THE DAY TO DAY CONTROL AND MANAGEMENT OF THE MANAGER. SO UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION, THE GENERAL ADVICE I GAVE KAREN IS, UM THE USE OF THAT VAN SHE CAN. SHE CAN MAKE DAY TO DAY DECISIONS AS TO THE USE OF IT. UM IF THERE'S ANY CONCERN ABOUT THAT, PLEASE, YOU KNOW, GIVE SOME DIRECTION NOW ON IT, BUT THAT THAT'S WITH REGARD TO THAT. THAT'S KIND OF, UH, THE ADVICE I HAD GIVEN. UM THIS IS THIS SEEMED TO BE WITHIN THE RANGE OF THE TYPE OF THING THAT HAD BEEN OKAY BEFORE, SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THAT WAS OKAY. AND UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ, I APOLOGIZE 17 TO 19. ESSENTIALLY SHE'S ASKING IF IT HAS TO COME TO THE COUNCIL AND THEN ALSO TALKED ABOUT GAS. UM IF THEY PROVIDE GAS RECEIPTS. REIMBURSEMENT. YES SO I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THAT DURING MY COMMENT, BUT I, UH, EMAIL THAT TO YOU BOTH JUST TO SEE ME AND I NEVER GOT A RESPONSE FROM EITHER ONE OF YOU, UM IN REGARDS OF WELL, THIS IS FOR THE INDIAN TOWN NEWS AND THEY NEED GAS TO GET UP THERE. SO IF WE CAN LIVE IN THE VILLAGE OF ANY INTENT COULD PAY FOR THAT GUYS, AND WE REIMBURSE THEM FOR US. WELL, I THINK IF THEY ARE GIVEN THAT VAN THAT'S FULL OF GAS. UM THAT'S THAT'S THE VILLAGE, PROVIDING THE GAS AND IT SHOULD GET THEM THERE AND BACK. IF THEY NEED MORE GAS THAN THAT. UM I'M I'M WILLING TO. I'VE GOT $100 IN MY POCKET. I'LL DONATE THAT TOWARD GAS RATHER THAN THEN THE VILLAGE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. OKAY

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GET THE KEYS. WHERE TO MEET. JUST GIVE DEBBIE A CALL. YES PLEASE. YEAH, THAT'D BE THE EASIEST. YEAH, THANK YOU. GOOD. AND I'LL GET WITH YOU WITH A GAS CARD. GUESTS WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF. UM. I MEAN, ALL SORTS OF NOTES HERE, BEAR WITH ME. SOMETIMES I CAN READ THEM.

SOMETIMES I CAN'T. UM. IN IN GOING BACK AND LISTENING TO COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS. UM. I UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER APOLLO IS SAYING. I AND THINKING ABOUT WHAT IS. COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I THINK THERE IS AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT QUALIFYING. I THINK THERE IS A SEGMENT OF THE COMMUNITY TALKING ABOUT IF THEY QUALIFY, IF THEY'RE ABLE TO AFFORD THINK THERE'S A SEG SEGMENT OF THE COMMUNITY THAT IS , IT'S I THINK IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE TO CALL IT ATTAINABLE HOUSING. BECAUSE AFFORDABLE IS RELEVANT TO WHOEVER. WHATEVER THEIR YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY CAN. I THINK THERE'S A SEGMENT WE HAVE LOTS OF, UM SUBSIDIZED HOUSING AROUND INDIAN TOWN. YOU KNOW JOSEPH LEE GARDENS, NEW HOPE, ONE NEW HOPE TO. WE'VE GOT SMOKE RICE THERE. THERE'S PLENTY OF THAT. BUT WHEN A PERSON FINDS A JOB AND THEY ARE PRICED OUT OF THAT THEY NO LONGER ARE ABLE TO, UM TO QUALIFY FOR THAT TYPE OF HOUSING. WHERE DO THEY GO? THAT'S WHEN THEY NEED THAT KIND OF MIDDLE STEP OF ATTAINABLE HOUSING, SO I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE. UM MOVING FORWARD. SO YES, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE A GREAT THING. UM ALSO ON THE 38 MILLION THAT THAT THE VILLAGE HAS BEEN A RECIPIENT OF THAT WAS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT IT WAS, UH, I GUESS CLARIFIED THAT THAT WAS FOR WASTEWATER. THOSE THOSE TWO AMOUNTS WERE FOR WASTEWATER, NOT THE WATER PORTION. IT WAS FOR THE WASTEWATER, SO WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO. AND THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO START ON ON THE WATERSIDE AND WHAT IS REQUIRED AND WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM, SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ON AN AGENDA.

UM. AND AS FAR AS, UM, MR ROMANCES, COMMENTS. INDIAN TOWN . AND I'M NOT SURE EVERYBODY REALLY REALIZES THE IMPACT OF THE MARINE INDUSTRY IN INDIAN TOWN. WE'RE TALKING, NOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WERE TALKING. BILLIONS. WE'RE TALKING WITH A BEE. UM THE IMPACT THAT THAT INDUSTRY HAS AND POTENTIAL TO HAVE AN INDIAN TOWN, SO I THINK THAT THAT IS DEFINITELY A VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT. IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND I WOULD LIKE THE AT THE IF, IF THE APPROVAL OF THE COUNCIL YOU KNOW IF WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT TO BRING BACK TO THE NEXT, UM NEXT MEETING. A PROCLAMATION IN SUPPORT OF THIS ISSUE OF THE MARINE INDUSTRY AND OF, UM WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON.

IF. THE COUNCIL AGREES. THE PROCLAMATION IN SUPPORT OF OUR MARINE INDUSTRY. ARE WE IN AGREEMENT OF THAT? I THOUGHT WE ALREADY HAD WHEN? YEAH WE ALREADY THAT I LET'S DO ANOTHER ONE. WHAT'S UPDATED PRIMARY TARGETED INDUSTRY. YEAH WELL, LET'S LET'S DO ANOTHER ONE SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS ISSUE, AND WE KNOW IT'S THE MARINE INDUSTRY BUT SPECIFICALLY SPEAKING TO THAT ISSUE OF THE YOU KNOW, FAIRNESS AND MAKING SURE THAT. THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO IN

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AND I THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A DISCUSSION. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN JUST DO JUST KIND OF A GENERAL AGREEMENT ON. I THINK I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A ITEM THAT WE WANT TO BRING IT BACK. YEAH, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. OKAY SO I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION TO BRING OR I WOULD REQUEST THAT TO BRING AN AGENDA ITEM IN REGARDS OF THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO INDIAN TOWN REGARDS OF THIS THREE WEEK CLOSURE, I THINK IT'S THE LAWSUIT AND THE REASON WHY THEY WANT US THERE IS BECAUSE THE LAWSUIT IS SUPPOSED TO GO IN A FRIDAY. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE LIKE TIME IS CLICKING. BUT IF THIS COUNCIL AFTER DISCUSSION AND LOOKING AT THE RAMIFICATIONS IF WE DECIDE THAT, YES, WE WANT TO JOIN IT. WE CAN'T JOIN IT AT A LATER DATE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO IN AT THE SAME TIME THAT IT IS FILED. IS THAT CORRECT? MR. VOTE BOTH. YEAH. BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. MAYOR MAYOR I KNOW, I KNOW HE DIDN'T WANT TO GET IN THE WEEDS ON STUFF, BUT UM LET ME JUMP IN JUST JUST ONE SECOND HERE SO I WAS FIRST MADE AWARE OF ALL THIS BIT GOING ON A LITTLE OVER 48 HOURS AGO AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH JOE AND DAN AND THE ATTORNEY THAT THEY REFERENCED UP THERE IN PENNSYLVANIA. UM SUBSTANTIALLY. I THINK THE DIRECTION THEY'RE LOOKING TO GO. HAS STAN SHAL VERY SUBSTANTIAL LEGAL MERIT, OKAY? UM. BUT WHEN WE GET INTO SITUATIONS WITH WITH GOVERNMENTS JUMPING IN SUING OTHER GOVERNMENTS BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUING.

AH, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO THE PARTICULARS OF IT. BUT THERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO SEEK TO STOP THE HARM THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS. UM. IN LIGHT OF BROADER . EVALUATION OF POTENTIAL UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. UM A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME MAY MAKES SENSE. AND FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, THAT WOULD SAY SUGGEST YOU IT MIGHT NOT BE THEIR PREFERENCE. UM THAT THAT THE VILLAGE WOULD COME IN LATER RATHER THAN IMMEDIATELY WHEN THEY FIRST FILE BUT PROCEDURALLY UNDER THE FEDERAL CIVIL PROCEDURE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT ABSOLUTELY CAN BE DONE. YOU NEED HELP. SO HE AIRPORT? YES, SIR.

VILLAGES. IT IS BASED ON WHAT THEY GOES OPEN OR NOT, YOU GUYS ARE YES, SIR. OH, ABSOLUTELY.

BUT I THINK IT BEHOOVES THIS COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GO INTO IT WITH OUR EYES WIDE OPEN, LOOKING AT ALL THE RAMIFICATIONS AND REALIZE THAT IT IS A MAJOR ONE. BUT THERE MAY BE ONE OUT THERE THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW THAT WE MAY NEED TO CONSIDER THREE YEARS. WELL WE CAN'T AND WELL, IT. AND WE CAN WE CAN LIKE MR VOS HAS STATED THAT ONCE WE ACTUALLY GET IT, WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND IT AND REALLY GET GET A HOLD OF IT. THAT WE CAN. WE CAN STILL JOIN.

IF THIS COUNCIL SO DECIDES MAKES EMOTION AND SO DECIDES. DO WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING? OR CAN WE CALL A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THAT? VOTE ON THAT NOW. WELL IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO VOTE ON WHAT NEEDS TO THIS WOULD BE. IF IT WAS THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL TO DO SO. BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF IT, THIS WOULD BE A MATTER THAT YOU COULD TAKE ACTION ON WHETHER THE COUNCIL FINDS IT TO BE APPROPRIATE TO TAKE ACTION ON IT IN LIGHT OF. NOT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TIME TO EVALUATE ALL

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ALRIGHT SO THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT MATTER. AND WE'RE ALL HERE RIGHT NOW. I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR FOR US TO AT LEAST FIGURE OUT OKAY. IS IT WORTH IT FOR YOU, STEPHEN? DO ANYTHING AT ALL. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR BOSE IS SAYING. AS FAR AS WE NEED MORE TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION. BECAUSE HE HAS TO DO HIS RESEARCH AS WELL. UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY I THINK IT'S STILL GOOD FOR US TO AT LEAST DISCUSS IT AND FIND OUT HOW IMPORTANT THIS MATTER IS. WELL THEN I THINK THEN YOU GO TO A MEETING IN ORDER TO SO WE CAN HAVE SOMETIMES SO WE CAN GIVE MR VOS A LITTLE TIME TO PREPARE SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT SO WE CAN PREPARE AND IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT MATTER IS VERY IMPACTFUL IN OUR COMMUNITY. THAT IS A TRUE STATEMENT. THERE IS NO TRUER STATEMENT. HOWEVER THIS COUNCIL IS TASKED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GO INTO IT. FULLY KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE RAMIFICATIONS OF SUING ANOTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITY. I THINK THAT THERE ARE RAMIFICATIONS THAT WE ARE NOT AWARE OF, AND WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF. THAT'S THAT'S MINE. THOUGHT ON IT. SO THAT'S THE REASON SPECIAL MEETING. SOUNDS GOOD. COUNCIL MEMBER DIPAULA. YEAH I'LL TELL YOU MY FIRST MY FIRST REACTION TO IT WAS. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. UM AFTER WE HAD A FEW CONVERSATIONS. AND THERE WILL BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

MOST LIKELY SO WE NEED TO WEIGH THAT. WE NEED TO WEIGH THAT. WE HAVE GRANTS RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE PURSUING. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON. AND. YOU KNOW, IT'S A HARD DECISION TO MAKE BECAUSE LITIGATION IS NOT AGAINST THE STATE OF FLORIDA. WE HAVE TO BE ON THE RECORD, BUT BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO WEIGH. HMM. AND. YOU KNOW HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS, YOU KNOW. AND. I'M NOT A POLITICIAN, SO I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE YET. RIGHT? I DO KNOW REALITY. AND WE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS AND WE NEED TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT IT. SO I AGREE. COUNCILWOMAN HANDERS AND THE MAYOR THAT WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK. HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING ON IT. LET'S GET SOME MORE INFORMATION. WE DON'T WANT TO HURT ANYBODY WE DON'T WANT WE DON'T WANT YOU TO BE HURT. WE DON'T WANT THE VILLAGE TO BE HEARD. THEY'RE LIKE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT WE DECIDED TO JUMP ON WE COULD JUMP ON. NEXT WEEK JUST AS EASILY AS WE COULD JUMP ON TODAY. SO. JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CAUTION. I JUST I JUST THINK WE ARE TO JUST HOLD OFF AND GET SOME MORE INFORMATION. THE LAWYERS DO THE LAWYER THING . AND I THINK THIS COUNCIL IS IN FULL SUPPORT OF OUR MARINE INDUSTRY AND ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO SHORT OF RIGHT NOW JOINING THAT LAWSUIT, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO, UM, DISCUSS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ONCE AGAIN FULLY AWARE. UM SO I KIND OF SEE A CONSENSUS OF A SPECIAL MEETING. YES I'M FOR THAT. I'M SEEING 123 MYSELF FOR UM. ARE YOU STAFF? WHEN WHEN CAN WHEN WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GET THAT SET UP. I MEAN, DO WE HAVE TO DO NOTICING AND SO HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE? YEAH WE CAN. WE CAN CALL IT. YEAH, WE JUST HAVE TO CALL. CALL THE MEETING ON REASONABLE NOTICE. SO, UM WE CAN SET IT. NEXT WEEK. CALENDARS YEAH, WILL BE WHAT WOULD WORK WHAT WOULD WORK FOR THE COUNCIL THURSDAY, JUNE NEXT THURSDAY, A WEEK FROM NOW. THE PIZZA. EVERY MEETING FOR NEXT MONTH HAS BEEN

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MAYBE EVEN BETTER, AS LIKE. THEY'RE THINKING BECAUSE THE INITIAL LAWSUIT GOES OUT. IT'S IN THE NEAREST. A WEEK LATER. THE VILLAGE JOINTS HOPEFULLY ANOTHER BANG IN THE NEWSPAPER AND THE NEWS SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS SPECIAL MEETING AND WE'LL TRY TO GIVE YOU AS MUCH INFORMATION AS YOU NEED FOR THAT MEETING QUESTION. IS THE CITY OF STEWART SIGNING ISLAND.

WE DIDN'T GO THERE. WE FOUND OUT THAT THE MAYOR OF PORT ST LUCIE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS UNTIL LAST WEEK. I GOT THAT FROM BRIAN MASSE OFFICE, HE SAID. THERE'S JUST A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ARE UNAWARE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THE CITY OF STEWART DOESN'T NOT AWARE SERIOUS SEARCH SETTLED. SAME WITH MARTIN. CARLY'S WE CAN'T REALLY GO TO THEM OR ANYTHING. THEY SETTLED WITH BRIGHT LINE SO WE CAN'T GO TO THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY ALREADY SETTLED WITH RIGHT LINE . AND SO WE CAN'T EVEN THOUGH I TALKED TO COMMISSIONERS THEY WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, SAID NO, THAT AIN'T RIGHT. BUT WHAT ABOUT SEWELL'S POINT? WE HAVEN'T REACHED HIM AT THE TRAIN DOESN'T GO THROUGH SCHOOLS POINTS, SO I DIDN'T TRY TO GO THERE. UM WE DO HAVE YOU KNOW, MARINE, MAX? WE'VE GOT ALL ANYBODY THAT ON THAT SIDE OF THE BRIDGE IT JUST THE ONES WE'VE CONTACTED. I MEAN, THERE'S ONCE THIS BRIDGE CALLED IT WAS OPTICS OF THIS AS WELL AND WE CHOSE TO FILE THIS VERY EXPENSIVE LAWSUIT ON FRIDAY. BECAUSE MONDAY THEY'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE BRIDGE FOR THREE WEEKS. ONCE THAT BRIDGE IS CLOSED. YOU CAN'T GET UNDER THAT BRIDGE 26 FOOTBALL WITH THE T TOP ON IT. WELL, THAT'S THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THAT BRIDGE. AND SO AGAIN, LIKE IF YOU GUYS I THINK YOU WILL COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST FOR THE TAX BASE IN THE FUTURE. THAT HAPPENS NEXT WEEK. THAT WOULD BE GOOD, BUT WE'VE WE THOUGHT ABOUT MARTIN COUNTY FOUND OUT THEY SETTLED SO WE COULDN'T GO THERE. ANDREW YOU ALREADY FELT THE EFFECTS CORRECT. WE LOST THE LARGEST BOAT IN THE YARD TODAY. THEY LEFT AND WENT OUT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT ANYONE GET BEHIND THAT BRIDGE. AND YOU KNOW WHEN THEY SAY THREE WEEKS, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY SAID FOUR WEEKS IN LOXAHATCHEE, AND IT WAS THREE MONTHS SO YEAH. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE INTO, BUT WE'RE LOSING BUSINESS. WILLIS HAS ALREADY MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY'RE LOSING CUSTOMERS THAT THEY WOULD SAY NO. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO THERE. OKAY THAT WE LIVED THROUGH LAST YEAR. I DON'T SHORT MEMORY FOR EVERYBODY. WE WENT THROUGH A THREE MONTH. CORPS OF ENGINEERS. LOCK REHABILITATION LAST YEAR WITH A LOT OF WAYS SHUT DOWN FOR THREE. MONTHS. I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 91. THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT EVER HAPPEN. SO THAT WHEN ONE WAY WE SAID, OKAY, THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. THE LACQUERS REPAIRED. WE HAVE NO IDEA. THEY PROBABLY PUT $50 MILLION INTO THAT LOCK. TAXPAYERS MONEY THAT LIKE US TO GET VESSELS THROUGH, HMM. OKAY, SO WE ARE SET FOR NEXT THURSDAY. 6 30. OKAY FANTASTIC. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. MOVE FORWARD ON THAT, UM I THINK THAT'S EVERYBODY COMMENTS. COMMITTEE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS? NO COMMITTEE RECORDS.

YES MAYOR. MS FARIS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT IF YOU WOULD ALLOW HER. MR HARRIS WOULD

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[COMMENTS BY VILLAGE MANAGER]

AWESOME. IS THAT ONE OF THE HIRES THAT THAT YOU DID WHEN YOU WENT TO THAT EVENT? NO, NO, THAT WAS NOT ONE OF THE FAST HIRES THAT THAT ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS STARTED ALREADY, AND ANOTHER ONE IS STARTING AT THE UTILITY PLANT IN TWO WEEKS. THAT'S AWESOME. OKAY. GOOD UPDATE. THANK YOU. HEY UH, APPROVAL OF AGENDA AS AS AMENDED. SECOND. WE HAVE A

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]

PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. REGULAR AGENDA ITEM

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Presentation and discussion on Gated Communities in the Village of Indiantown.

YES MA'AM, UM, WE PUT THIS ITEM ON AT THE REQUEST OF THE COUNCIL TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION. AND UH , COUNCILMAN APOLLO KIND OF TOUCHED ON IT WHERE WE'VE GOT SOME L D. R S THAT TALKS ABOUT CLOSED OR GATED STREETS ARE DISCOURAGED OR STREET AND PROPOSED SUBDIVISION SHALL BE CONNECTED TO RIGHTS AWAY AND ADJACENT AREAS TO ALLOW PROPER IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC FLOW BY MEANS OF A COLLECTOR STREET. UM SO THE WORD DISCOURAGED IS USED IN TWO DIFFERENT SECTIONS AS FAR AS THE GATED COMMUNITIES GO, AND SO WE HAVE SCHEDULED THIS GENTLEMAN MR MARK FREEMAN FROM COTTON CULTURE HOMES. IS GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS MARK FRIEDMAN. I'M WITH COULTER HOMES AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE TODAY. SO ALL I'M GOING. I'M JUST HERE FOR INFORMATION. UM WORKING. NO, JUST. I'LL JUST GO LIKE THAT. YEAH SO, UM, I'M JUST HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS OF GATED COMMUNITIES. UM NOTHING MORE THAN PROVIDING INFORMATION.

THERE'S NO BENEFIT TO ME THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT LAND HERE. THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THAT. I'M JUST HERE AS A FRIEND TO JUST TRY TO HELP GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT TO OUR EXPERIENCE WITH GATED COMMUNITIES AND HOW IT COULD POTENTIALLY HELP THE VILLAGE AND HELP HELPING IN TOWN. SO UM, IT'S OPEN FORUM. I GUESS I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE RULES HERE, BUT IT'S OPEN. YOU FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS. LET'S TRY. SO WE JUST SO YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE DO. WE CULTURE HOMES WERE A BUILDER WERE LOCATED IN PALM BEACH GARDENS, BUT WE HAVE HOME COMMUNITIES ALL THE WAY THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHEAST FROM CHARLOTTE, CHARLESTON, ALL THE WAY THROUGH GEORGIA DOWN THROUGH THE PANHANDLE, WEST COAST, EAST COAST. WE COME ALL THE WAY DOWN . UM AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE OUR REGULAR COMMUNITIES, ALL AGES COMMUNITIES. WE GO FROM THE 200. THEN WE'VE GOT HOMES TO GO UP TO THREE MILLION. SO VERY, VERY DIVERSE PRICE POINTS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A ACTIVE ADULT BRAND, WHICH IS CALLED CREST WIN, WHICH IS 55. PLUS AND THAT IS THE BULK OF OUR COMMUNITIES ARE BASED ON ACTIVE ADULT LIVING. GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THAT AS WE AS WE GO ON THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS, AND THE FIRST ONE IS DEVELOPERS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE ROADS WHEN YOU HAVE A GATED COMMUNITY. THIS THING TO WORK. THERE WE GO. SO WE MANUALLY WE WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ROAD. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE ROADS ONCE EVERYTHING'S BEHIND THE GATE THAT WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BUILDER OR DEVELOPER. AND THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THEY CAN PUT THAT TOGETHER. IT'S UP TO THE, UH, THE BUILDING THEMSELVES. THEY MAY DO A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THEY MAY SET UP OTHER BONDS.

THAT'LL HELP GET THEIR ROADS DONE, BUT IT IS NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY. AND PLEASE SO THE CITY CAN ALSO REQUIRE A DEVELOPER WHEN THEY ARE LOOKING FOR APPROVALS TO GIVE A PERCENTAGE OF LAND BACK TO THE CITY SO THEY CAN ENABLE THE BUILDING OF CITY PARKS AND OR SERVICES. SO IT MAYBE WE NEED A PLACE FOR A FIRE STATION. WE NEED IT. WE WANT TO PUT A NEW PARK OVER HERE. SO A LOT OF TIMES IN THE NEGOTIATION OF WORKING WITH A DEVELOPER OR BUILDER, A LOT OF CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES WILL ASK FOR SOMETHING BACK, SO IT'S THERE

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IT JUMPED AROUND. SO, UM, WE DO A LOT OF BUSINESS WITH ACTIVE ADULTS, AND THEY BASICALLY HAVE THE HIGHEST HOUSEHOLD WEALTH. THEY HOLD 70% OF THE WEALTH IN THE COUNTRY AND SO FOR US WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH ACTIVE ADULTS THEY GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. THEY VOLUNTEER FOR THE COMMUNITY . THEY HAVE THEY USE LESS SERVICES. SO NEXT ONE, PLEASE. SO THEY ARE. BASICALLY THEY PAY TAXES, BUT THEY USE FEWER THE MUNICIPALITY SERVICES. SO THEY HAVE 70% OF THE U. S. HOUSEHOLD INCOME, AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT USES. NEXT ONE, PLEASE. KEEP GOING. HERE WE GO. SO 34% OF THEIR INCOME IS SPENT ON LOCAL GOODS AND SERVICES SO EVERY YEAR THAT MEANS THAT, YOU KNOW 900 ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITIES BENEFITS A LOCAL COMMUNITY. UM, AND THERE'S AN ESTIMATED NUMBER . I DIDN'T PUT IT. THIS IS ALL BASED ON ACTUAL DATA IS NOT SOMETHING THAT JUST CAME OUT OF THE SKY. UM NEXT ONE, PLEASE 23.8 MILLION SPENT ON LOCAL GOODS AND SERVICES. AND JOB CREATIONS ARE HUGE. KEEP GOING. THERE WE GO. UM LET'S DRIVING. THEY TEND TO NOT DRIVE AS MUCH AS YOUNG FAMILIES THAT ARE GOING TO SPORTS. ARENAS AND DRIVING ALL OVER TOWN. UM THEY TEND TO STICK CLOSE TO HOME AND THEY DO USE A LOT OF THE SERVICES. UM BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THE RUSH HOUR TRIPS. SO YOU DON'T YOU DON'T HAVE THAT BOGGED DOWN OF YOUR MUNICIPALITY STREETS.

NEXT ONE, PLEASE. KEEP GOING. SO WE'RE JUST SHOWING AN EXAMPLE HERE OF AN ACTIVE COMMUNITY SHOWING IT BASED ON 900 HOMES, THIS SPECIFIC COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. WE'LL GIVE OVER 487 VOLUNTEERS READY TO SERVE, SO A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE TRY TO PUT TOGETHER OR NEAR COLLEGES BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S A CENTER FOR VOLUNTEERING AND CREATING CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS, SO THEY GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. AND ALMOST OF OUR ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITIES ARE GATED. WE DO HAVE SOMETHING OR NOT, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE GATED. NEXT ONE, PLEASE. KEEP GOING. KEEP GOING. KEEP GOING. AMBULANCE TRIPS GO DOWN. UM SO YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE GET PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS. OH, MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS. WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE MEDICAL SERVICES, AND THAT MAY BE THE CASE, BUT THE TAX DOLLARS ARE ALSO BENEFICIAL TO CREATE MORE MEDICAL SERVICES IN THE AREA. HERE'S JUST A FEW GATED COMMUNITY THAT WE'VE DONE. JUST KEEP FLIPPING THROUGH THESE. THIS IS IN THE PANHANDLE, JUST SHOWING YOU THAT THE BREADTH OF SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT HAVE LARGE UH YOU KNOW 456 708 111 100 HOMES. WE'VE GOT SOME COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA OF VARANO OVER IN PORT ST LUCIE, THAT'S YOU KNOW, 3000 HOMES. THERE'S A NEW COMMUNITY, ASTOR CREEK. IT'S A GATED, UM, GOLF COURSE COMMUNITY. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TO HELP IMPROVE OUR WORLD OF HAVING PEOPLE THAT COME DOWN BENEFIT THE COMMUNITIES HELP THE COMMUNITIES GROW. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. KEEP GOING. SO THIS IS JUST SHOWING YOU DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, AND ALL OF THEM TEND TO HAVE A CLUBHOUSE IN THEM . THEY HAVE A GATED AREA AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE WHAT WE CALL MANDY GATED. THEY COULD HAVE WHAT WE CALL AN EMBARRASSED SYSTEM, WHICH IS AN ELECTRONIC GATE THAT YOU COME IN . YOU ACTUALLY PRESENT YOUR ID IT SCANS THERE'S A PERSON THAT'S ON A ON A ON A SCREEN WITH A CAMERA ON THE OTHER END, SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A MAN

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HMM. NOW KEEP IN MIND. MOST OF OUR ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITIES ARE LOCATED. WE CALL THEM BABY CHASERS. SO THEY ARE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE NEAR LARGER CITIES WHERE THE GRANDKIDS ARE. AND THEY TEND TO MOVE TO THOSE, SO THEY'RE MOVING OUT OF WHETHER IT'S THE NORTHEAST ARE MOVING OUT OF A HELP US COMMUNITY THAT MAYBE HAS CHANGED SINCE THEY MOVED IN, AND THEY'RE BASICALLY SO WE GO FROM 1200 SQUARE FEET. UP TO OUR AVERAGE IS PROBABLY AROUND, I WOULD SAY 2000 SQUARE FEET. IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE SWEET SPOT OF THE ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITIES THAT WE DO. YEAH SO WE'RE TALKING. WHAT IS CONSIDERED? THIS IS A SMALL HOME . THIS DEFINITELY IS NOT AN ATTAINABLE. NO THIS THIS WOULD NOT BE NOW THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES THAT WE DEVELOP, AND THEY THE CITY HAS SAID OKAY, WELL, WE NEED SOME. THEY CALL IT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THAT IS NOT ATTAINABLE. I DO LIKE THE ATTAINABLE TWIST, BUT THEY WILL SAY THAT WE NEED TO HAVE X DOLLARS TOWARDS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPLEX OR X NUMBER OF UNITS. AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE NEGOTIATION THAT TAKES PLACE. UM OKAY, OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ.

NOT A QUESTION, BUT JUST, UH, WADE. I WAS LOOKING AT THE L. D. R S IT SAYS DISCOURAGED. BUT IT CONTINUES AND SAYS ANY STREET THAT'S NOT OPEN TO GENERAL. PUBLIC USED SHALL BE PERTAIN RETAINED PERMANENTLY AS A PRIVATELY OWNED AND PRIVATELY MAINTAINED STRAIGHT. SO WHY DID WE INCLUDE THAT? IF. AH I SEE DISCOURAGED AS LIKE YOU CAN DO IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER LIKE WE DON'T LIKE IT. BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO IT, YOU CAN DO IT. THIS IS NOT STOPPING ANYONE FROM DOING A GATED COMPUTER. NITTY CORRECT. SO AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, LET ME LET ME TELL YOU WHAT A AND I'D WELCOME DEVELOPERS THOUGHTS ON THIS. BUT AS A PRACTICAL MATTER DEVELOPER COMES IN AND PROPOSES TO REMEMBER IT COMES TO PLANNING STAFF FIRST, RIGHT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE EVALUATING INITIALLY FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND THEY COME IN WITH A PROJECT AND SAY, ALRIGHT, IT'S GATED COMMUNITY FIRST RESPONSE. OUT OF MOST PLANTERS, EVEN THE MOST PRO DEVELOPMENT PLANNERS. WHAT HAVE YOU'RE GOING TO BE? WELL JUST SO YOU KNOW, OUR CODE DISCOURAGES, UM, DISCOURAGES GATED COMMUNITIES. NOW THAT'S NOT A PROHIBITION. ALRIGHT? BUT WHAT A WHAT A PLANNER IS GOING TO READ INTO TWO PUT RUBBER ON THE ROAD , YOU KNOW, RUBBER TO THE ROAD TO MAKE DISCOURAGED MEANS SOMETHING IS TO SAY, WELL, UH, THE ONLY WAY WE CAN REALLY JUSTIFY A STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. TO SAY IT COMPLIES WITH THE L. DRS IS TO HAVE A VERY STRONG JUSTIFICATION. WHY YOU THINK YOU NEED UH, DATA COMMUNITY AS OPPOSED TO JUST A BUSINESS DECISION. WE THINK IT'D BE A GOOD THING TO HAVE A GATED COMMUNITY. SO DISCOURAGED IT DISCOURAGED DOES MEAN SOMETHING. IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S PROHIBITED , BUT IT MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO HIT STRONG HEADWINDS WHEN THEY WHEN THEY GET TO THE STAFF. UH POINT AND THE FIRST QUESTION THEY'RE GOING TO ASK IS ALL RIGHT. WHAT'S YOUR WHAT'S YOUR JUSTIFICATION? WHY SHOULD YOUR PROJECT HAVE A GAY WHILE OTHERS DON'T? THAT'S AT LEAST ONE WAY MOST PLANNERS ARE GONNA INTERPRET THAT. OKAY? BUT NECESSARILY IF THE IF THE BUILDER SAYS, NO, I REALLY WANT A GATED COMMUNITY AND THEY STICK THROUGH IT THE WHOLE PROCESS. THEY CAN HAVE THE KING OF THE COMMUNITY. THERE'S NOT NOTHING IN THE L D GUARDS IS TELLING THEM IT'S PROHIBITED. YEP. WHAT

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S THAT WOULD TAKE OUT THAT THAT LANGUAGE IN THE DIRECTION OF DISCOURAGED IN IT IN ALL ITS PLACES, AND WHEN THAT'S PREPARED , WE'D RUN IT THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS, WHICH WOULD BE THE PC, ABBY AND THEN BACK TO YOU ALL FOR FINAL APPROVAL, AND THEN IT WOULD KEEP THE PRIVATELY SO THAT THEY COULD THEY MAINTAIN ALL THAT LIKE IF THEY WANT TO MAKE IT, OKAY? LET ME JUST SO AS A BUILDER OR DEVELOPERS LOOKING AT A PLACE TO BUY LAND. THEY WANT TO GO TO THE PLACE THAT YOU CAN HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF RESISTANCE AND BE ABLE TO GET THAT LAND ENTITLED AND WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS SO THEY CAN BUILD SOONER BECAUSE TIME IS A VERY, VERY POWERFUL TO TRUST ME.

CONSTRUCTION COSTS. YES SO FOR A BUILDER IF THEY SEE DISCOURAGED . THEN THAT WILL YOU KNOW? AND THEN THE NEXT TOWN OVER DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AND THEIR LAND IS AT A SIMILAR PRICE . THEY'RE GOING TO LEAN IN THAT IT'S GOING TO DISCOURAGE THEM FROM EVEN CONTEMPLATING THAT LAND PURCHASE, AND I'M NOT SAYING FOR US OR NOT SPECIFICALLY US. I'M JUST SAYING IN GENERAL SO IT THE LANGUAGE AND YOU GUYS MAKE THOSE DECISIONS, BUT THE LANGUAGE COULD DISCOURAGE AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT A TOWN. THEY WANT TO GO TO A TOWN THAT'S GOING TO BE PRO FOR WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

VICE MAYOR STONE. YES SO AS A CERTIFIED GENERAL CONTRACTOR. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT I SEE WITH THIS WHOLE DISCOURAGE. IS IF YOU HAVE A NO GROWTH PLANNER. THANK YOU CREATE A LOT OF PROBLEMS. SO I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR AS FAR AS JUST REMOVING DISCOURAGED PERIOD. UH, SO I MEAN, I WOULD DEFINITELY GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO COME BACK WITH THAT, OKAY?

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THANK YOU. TO YOU KNOW TO SIT AND LOOK AT THEM AND THEN YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL CAN SAY WELL, THIS THESE ARE THESE ARE THE ISSUES AND MAYBE HAVE A WORKSHOP ON IT TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY INPUT TO HAVE DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE USED THESE BUILDERS OR WHOEVER REAL ESTATE AGENTS THAT THAT THAT KNOWS THAT THAT USE THESE AND NO OTHER ISSUES ARE NO. WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE. THAT WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THIS. THIS ISN'T IT SO WE CAN KNOW WHAT TO FOCUS ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

YOU KNOW, IN THE SHORT TERM IMMEDIATELY, SO THAT'S INSTEAD OF PIECEMEAL NG YOU KNOW, HERE AND THERE. SO. COUNCIL MEMBER, APOLLO, I GET THAT ABOUT THE PIECEMEAL NG. OKAY, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA COME ACROSS THINGS AS WE DO BUSINESS. OKAY, AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED. AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED. SO INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT ON THE BURNER AND BRING IT IN WITH OTHER STUFF. I THINK WE SHOULD JUST DO IT. I THINK THAT IT'S WRONG. THAT THAT WE DISCOURAGE IT. I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO GROW THIS VILLAGE AND INCREASE OUR TAX REVENUE. NOW. WE NEED TO DO THAT. UM. MY NEXT HOUSE. I GUARANTEE YOU WILL BE IN A GATED COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY KNOCKING ON MY DOOR AT NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT. UM HMM. THAT'S IT AND. I JUST I JUST I JUST THINK THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS GREAT, AND WE NEED TO HAVE IT ATTAINABLE HOUSING. BUT I THINK WE NEED A GOOD WE NEED A MIX OF EVERYTHING. SO I MEAN, AS WE COME ACROSS THINGS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE THINGS. THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS SO AND TO SPEAK TO THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT I DON'T SEE THE URGENCY FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT WE HAVE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS AND DEAL WITH, AND ONE OF THEM IS WATER, AND WE NEED TO START THAT CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO COME BACK BECAUSE WE ARE WE ARE OUTSTRIPPING. WE ARE APPROVING SO MUCH STUFF. WE ARE OUTSTRIPPING OUR ABILITY TO KEEP UP. WE CANNOT APPROVE ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE, UM NOT SAYING WE CAN'T. I DON'T KNOW THAT AT THIS POINT. I NEED TO GET INFORMATION, BUT WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE CANNOT APPROVE ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THE WATER SERVICES. THAT IS THE DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE IN THE IMMEDIATE BEFORE WE GET TO ANY OF THIS OTHER STUFF WE CAN'T GROW GROW, GROW GROW IF WE ARE OUTGROWING OUR ABILITY TO SUPPORT WHAT WE ARE APPROVING, AND WE I THINK ARE LOOKING AT THAT. SO I THINK THAT THAT IS A DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE IS THE DOMINO YOU KNOW, WHERE DO YOU DO? YOU START? THAT'S A DISCUSSION. WE NEED TO HAVE THAT THAT WILL PLAY INTO THE APPROVING THIS IN ORDER

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THEY HAVE THEY HAVE PIECEMEAL WE NEED WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THAT IS USING THIS AND THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE ONCE AGAIN ARE USING IT AND KNOWS THE INS AND OUTS BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT THERE'S A LAUNDRY LIST AND SOMEBODY'S GOT A LAUNDRY LIST. I'M SURE WHOEVER HAD THAT LARGER LIST. LET'S BRING THAT LIKE I'LL SECOND THAT. WE DO. WE NEED A MOTION TO DO THIS OR IS IT JUST STEPH DIRECTION MADE EMOTION? UM LET ME TRY TO HELP CLEAR CLARIFIED THE MOTION A BIT HERE.

THE CHAPTER FOUR. CAN I CLARIFY CHAPTER FOUR? IT'S UH, PUT THE, UM MEETINGS WITH RESIDENTS.

CLOSE TO NEIGHBORS THERE SO THAT THEY CAN MEET WITH DEVELOPER PRIOR OR DURING THE SO THAT THEY'RE NOT AT THE VERY END, TRYING TO THINK VERY NEXT AGENDA ITEM. OKAY THAT A GONNA HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY ON THIS MEETING TONIGHT? REALLY OKAY, TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN JUST A SECOND. UM. VICE MAYOR WAS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IS, UM, I THINK THERE ARE I THINK THERE ARE SOME WE COULD PUT TOGETHER AS AS THINGS I THINK WE HAVE HEARD. DISCUSSED AS AS THINGS TO SORT I THINK THERE ARE ALSO A LARGER SET, UH , OF ISSUES THAT WE MIGHT HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPMENT. PARDON ME FROM THE FROM THE COMMUNITY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND SO ON ONE THOUGHT I WOULD OFFER WITH REGARD TO, YOU KNOW A COMMITTEE TO DEVELOP THAT OR KIND OF BE THE CENTRAL POINT TO HEAR SOME OF THAT. IN A LOT OF CITIES. THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT THE BABY IS FOR WHAT THE PLANNING BOARD IS FOR. UH SO THAT IS ONE POSSIBILITY. YOU COULD HAVE A WORKSHOP HERE. VILLAGE COUNCIL AND INVITE AND INVITE PROPERTY OWNERS AND VILLAGE RESIDENTS AND DEVELOPERS EVEN LEADING UP TO AND PRIOR TO THAT. HEY, SEND US YOUR LAUNDRY LIST. UM WHICH THAT MIGHT BE INVITING THOSE EMAILS MIGHT BE MORE HELPFUL THAN EVEN HEARING IT IN THE MEETING. SUSAN WILL HAVE REAL STUFF AND THEN YOU CAN DISCUSS IT IN THOSE MEETINGS.

UM, SO I THINK WE CAN PUT TOGETHER SOME THINGS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO GET TO THE COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF ALL THE LET'S DO A DISCUSSION ITEM FOR NEXT MEETING. AND THEN HAVE THE COMMUNITY COME OUT. AND WE COULD GO AHEAD AND DO IT. AGENDA ITEM THE FOLLOWING MONTH. OKAY YOU YOU MAY WANT TO GIVE TO THE WORKSHOP. WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT? MORE LEAD TIME AND AS MAKE MORE TIME, BUT GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE LEAD TIME TO GET IT OUT TO EVERYBODY. HEY, START SENDING US IF YOU'VE GOT PROPOSED CHANGES, I'M SAYING MAYBE SAID IT AT SECOND MEETING IN MAY GET THE WORD OUT NOW. PERFECT AND THEN SAY, HEY, START SENDING. YOU KNOW YOU GOTTA PROBLEMS WITH THIS. YOU GOT YOUR PROBLEM THAT PLEASE SEND IT ON TO X. AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE SOME STUFF TO TALK ABOUT LET'S DO THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. OH, SO JUST PROCEDURALLY. YEAH THEY'RE STILL IN MOTION ON THE FLOOR INSTEAD. DO WHAT I JUST SAID WHAT YOU JUST SAID. OKAY ALRIGHT, SO I GUESS THAT'S WHAT YOU JUST SAID WAS SECOND MEETING OF MAY 2ND MEETING OF THE SECOND MEETING OF MAY HAPPEN AN AGENDA ITEM ON, UH , TO DISCUSS INPUT THAT HAD BEEN RECEIVED OR RECEIVE INPUT. AT THAT MEETING ON, UH, RECOMMENDED L D R CHANGES FROM PROPERTY OWNERS, RESIDENTS. ANYONE WHO

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GROUP FOR NINE YEARS. GATED COMMUNITIES, SO IT'S NOT PART OF IT. GATED COMMUNITIES. IS A WHOLE PHILOSOPHICAL TOPIC THAT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED TO FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DOWNFALLS ARE AS WELL AS WHAT THE POSITIVES ARE. I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT ONLY ONE SIDE. THE QUESTION WAS PRESENTED. THERE'S A WHOLE OTHER SIDE TO THAT QUESTION THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT BEFORE DECISIONS ARE MADE. THE OTHER THING IS AS FAR AS THE LD R S. ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF TRYING TO PUT IN A GATED COMMUNITY OR THE AMENITIES THAT CAN BE TRADED OFF. BUT YOU CAN DO THE SAME THING. WITH PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT P. R. D S THEY REQUIRE. THAT THERE'S A PUBLIC BENEFIT. ONE OF THE CHANGES TO THE L. D. R S WAS THAT NO DEVELOPMENT UNDER 50 ACRES COULD BE EVER CONSIDERED AS A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE. MARTIN COUNTY REQUIRES ZERO ACRES. YOU WANT TO PLAY IN UNIT DEVELOPMENT? YOU CAN HAVE IT. THAT SHOULD BE ON YOUR LIST.

THANKS. WE HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC COMMENT AND A FERRIS. IT WASN'T REALLY A COMMENT IS MORE LIKE

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D. R S WHAT IS IN THE L D. R S AND WHAT'S REQUIRED AND WHAT'S NOT REQUIRED. AND HOW THE HOW YOU HAVE IT SEEMINGLY. IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, DISCOURAGED. BUT WHAT DOES THAT REALLY THERE'S NO TEETH IN CERTAIN ASPECTS OF IT. I THINK CHAPTER FOUR. MAYBE, YOU KNOW ONE OF THOSE SO UM, IT'S SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT IS PERTAINING TO THE LD, R S AND US UM AND WE HAVE DISCOVERED AS THEY'RE BEING USED OR HOW THEY'RE LACKING. SO YEAH. I JUST THE MAIN CONCERN IS THAT, UM I PERSONALLY LIVE IN A PRIVATE ROAD THAT IT'S NOT MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY, AND IT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED TO DEVELOP. A NEW DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S A CONCERNING TO ME BECAUSE IT'S ONLY SURVEYORS OUT THERE. BUT EVENTUALLY WHO ELSE IS GOING TO BE DRIVING UP AND DOWN? SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO KNOW LIKE , HOW ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO ORGANIZE SO THAT? WE CAN CLEARLY AS THE RESIDENT AND COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND MORE CLEARLY WHAT THE L D R. DOES AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED PRIOR FROM US REQUESTING SOMETHING THAT IS GONNA HARMLESS MORE THAN WHAT? THAT'S GOOD.

RIGHT? OKAY THANKS. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW I DIDN'T WANT TO MISS IT. WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET THE WORD OUT ON OUR AND, UH THROUGH OUR CONTACT LISTS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE YOUR INFORMATION TONIGHT IF YOU'RE NOT ALREADY HOOKED UP AND WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU'RE THERE. OKAY? WE GOOD MHM. OKAY MOVING ON NUMBER SEVEN DISCUSSION ON PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR SIGNS

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Discussion on Public Notice Requirements for Signs Regarding Development Activities and Notifications to Residents

IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE THE L. D. R TO BE MODIFIED. UM AND JUST WE NEED DIRECTION. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MAKING CHANGES AND GIVE PUTTING UP DIFFERENT SIGNAGE REQUIREMENTS. AS LONG AS WE KNOW WHAT THE COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR. IS IT A BIG YELLOW SIGN LIKE THE COUNTY DOES OR IS IT A BLUE SIGN LIKE THE CITY DOES, OR IS IT AN ORANGE OR RED OR SOME OTHER COLOR THAT YOU WANT TO PICK? SO UM, WE DON'T RECOMMEND GREEN, THE CITY OF STEWART. ONE TIME HAD GREEN SIGNS, AND THEY GOT CRITICIZED BECAUSE IT WAS NOT OBVIOUS. AND THEN THEY CHANGED TO THE BLUE.

SO, UM FOR TRUTH, WE'RE JUST LOOKING JUST LIKE YELLOW. I LIKE THE NEON YELLOW BECAUSE IT CATCHES YOUR EYE. AND SO YOU KNOW, WE COULD GO BACK AND I PUT THE LANGUAGE FROM THE COUNTY IN HERE. UM WITH THE POSTING OF THE SIGNS, AND FOR HOW LONG? REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT THE SAME AS THAT, OBVIOUSLY, AND, UM. WHATEVER YOU WHATEVER THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DO. WE'RE READY TO GO. WELL, SINCE THIS IS A PART OF THAT L D R THING. WE CAN INCLUDE THIS IN ON. NO WE

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Update on Da Swamp Homecoming 2023 Special Event Application

ALSO I KNOW THAT THERE IS ANOTHER ASPECT OF THAT PERMIT. UM AS FAR AS THE. NUMBER OF PEOPLE. YEAH, THERE THERE WAS. THERE WERE SOME DISCREPANCIES THERE. NO THE PERMIT, SAYS 1500 . THE INSURANCE POLICY, SAYS 1000. SO THERE'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LITTLE THINGS THEY'RE ALSO A PART OF OUR PERMITTING PROCESS. UM IN ORDER TO OBTAIN THE PERMIT THAT THERE WE HAVE TO HAVE A LETTER OF NO OBJECTIONS TO COMPLETE OUR PACKET, AND THAT COMES FROM THE MARTIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE BECAUSE THERE'S SO THERE'S A WHOLE THING THAT AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT ON US. TO APPROVE IN ORDER TO GO TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN ORDER TO GET THAT ASPECT OF IT

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IF IT'S MORE CONVENIENT FOR THEM TO PICK IT UP IN PERSON. WE ALSO HAVE IT ONLINE ON OUR MARTIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE WEBSITE AS WELL. AND ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS JUST SHOOT ME AN EMAIL WITH THAT FORM ATTACHED AND I COULD GET IT BACK TO YOU GUYS AND ALSO SEE SEE, I BELIEVE IT'S MR KRAMER. NOW NOW, AND I KNOW I SPOKE WITH YOU TODAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME. UM THEY NEED TO KNOW FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. THEY NEED TO SUBMIT A DETAILED REQUEST. YES, MA'AM, THAT CAN BE COMPLETED ON THE SAME FORM. YEAH, OKAY, SO IT'S THE SAME FORM. YES MA'AM. ALL RIGHT NEXT TO LETTER SO IT'S JUST VERY SIMPLE. GET IT DONE, SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF JUST A DAY AND AL THREE OTHER THINGS CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF THEM WILL BE GOOD. YES MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. NO NO, WE'LL PUT IT BACK UP FOR THE NEXT AGENDA. MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT IT ALL.

FINALLY NICE TO MEET HIM. I DO A LOT OF ENGAGEMENTS WITH THEM, AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN HIM SO MAYOR STONE. SO. WE HAVE A LIST OF CHECKLIST, RIGHT? YES, SIR. SO THEY SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEY NEED. IT'S VERY CLEAR. SO IF WE COULD JUST SEND THEM THAT CHECKLIST AGAIN. AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE. THIS IS WHAT WE NEED. THE APPLICATION WILL NOT GO FURTHER UNTIL YOU SUBMIT EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THE LIST, SO THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A LOT OF EXTRA WORK GOING ON. WELL THERE'S UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE THE APPLICATION WASN'T COMPLETE . THERE'S THINGS LIKE DUMPSTERS . THEY JUST COMPLETELY SKIP THAT SECTION WELL. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT? A DUMPSTER. I MEAN, THERE'S GOING TO BE GARBAGE.

OBVIOUSLY WE SHOULD HAVE, AND THERE'S A LOCATION ON THE MAP THAT SHOWS THE DUMPSTER, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE SECURED THAT YET. SO THAT WAS A COMMENT FROM PARKS. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST AGAIN OUR PROCESS. NEEDS TO BE SHORT UP AND MORE. CONSISTENT AND STRAIGHTFORWARD. EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY NEED GOING IN. EVERYBODY DOES THE SAME THING. WE HAVE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT FOLLOW ALL THE RULES BRING YOU A COMPLETE PACKET, AND THEY'RE GOOD, AND THEY BRING A COMPLETE PACKET WITH ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING 60 DAYS BEFORE, AS IT'S REQUIRED FAVOR. YES, SIR.

BRIE SEND THAT LIST WHERE ALREADY THERE AND WHAT'S NEEDED AND COPY THE COUNCIL ON IT. AND JUST LET HIM KNOW. LISTEN, THIS IS NOT GOING TO GO FORWARD UNTIL YOU SUBMIT ALL THAT'S REQUIRED, OKAY? AND I APPRECIATE STAFFING , WILLING. I KNOW IT'S TAKING A LITTLE TIME, BUT THEY'RE BEING WILLING TO WORK WITH HIM BECAUSE I KNOW MR VOTES AT THE LAST MEETING WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED ON EMAILS SENT OUT AN EMAIL . BUT HOWEVER, WE GET A CERTIFICATE INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF WHAT WE NEED, SO THE STAFF IS TRYING, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT THEY CAN DO IN ORDER TO GET IT RIGHT. AND I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE THE LAWS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BEING ADHERED TO. THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY, AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SO NEXT MEETING AND THAT IT SHOULD BE VERY SIMPLE THINGS AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ONE.

JUST TO ME. IT SHOULD ONLY BE AN UPDATE FROM STAFF SAYING HEY, EVERYTHING WAS IN IT SHOULDN'T BE DISCUSSING ANYTHING AGAIN. OKAY, BUT MY QUESTION IS, AND THE REASON I WANT AN UPDATE IS BECAUSE IF STAFF SAYS JUST LIKE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE'RE AT IN TWO WEEKS, WE'RE TO THE POINT OF

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OKAY? COUNCIL MEMBER, APOLLO, YOU GOT ANYTHING? WHEN THEY COME IN TO DO THAT, BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS NOW. SO SHOULD HAVE PLENTY OF EXPERIENCE DOING THIS. SO WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY PICK UP A PACKET. A COMPLETE PACKAGE CORRECT. AND THEY TAKE THAT PACKET AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO GET FILLED OUT. GET THE DETAIL. GET A LETTER FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. GOT A LETTER FROM THE POWERS FOR THE PARKING AND LOOKING FORWARD. THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A DIFFERENT VENUE IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT PROPERTY IS NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE MUCH LONGER FOR PARKING. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S COMING TO THE COUNCIL. WITHOUT A COMPLETED. APPLICATION THAT EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER.

HAVE YOU GOTTEN A LICENSE? AS ANYBODY GONE? RENEWED THE LICENSE? YOU HAVE TO BRING PAPERWORK WITH YOU. IF YOU DON'T GET THE PAPERWORK, YOU DON'T GET THE LICENSE. OKAY, THIS IS SIMPLE. SHALL AND LAST YEAR FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THEY DID IT WITHOUT A PERMIT. WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND A HARD COPY OF THAT PERMIT FROM LAST YEAR. WE WERE NOT ABLE TO, BUT DID THEY HAVE A PERMIT LAST YEAR? THEY INDICATE THEY DID, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PROOF OF THAT. I HAVE AN EMAIL THE DAY BEFORE SAYING I'M STILL WAITING ON THE INSURANCE FROM FROM A STAFF PERSON AT THAT TIME HE WAS DOING AND HE WAS NOT WHILE THEY'RE HERE. OKAY WELL, MY QUESTION TO THE REST OF HIS COUNSEL IS THAT IF THEY DON'T GET A PERMIT YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? WE'RE GOING TO LET THEM GO AND DO IT WITHOUT A PERMIT. IS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PREPARED TO UM TRESPASS ANYBODY ON THAT PROPERTY? AND WE PREPARED TO NOT HAVE THE FESTIVAL. AND I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION WHILE ASKING TWO WEEKS THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY SIMPLE THAT CAN BE FIXED. IF NOT, THEN WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT TWO WEEKS. WELL, YOU HAVE MORE FAITH THAN I DO.

COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. YES. SO LAST LAST MEETING. WE HAD TWO ITEMS PENDING. CERTIFICATE INSURANCE. WHAT WAS THE OTHER THING? THE REQUEST TO THE APPROVAL FROM NON NON PROFIT FOR THE PARKING? YEAH, SO TODAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VERY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THE DETAIL THE LETTER OF OBJECTION. AND. AH NO, THAT'S NOT THE SAME THING. IT'S DIFFERENT. IT'S ON THE SAME

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THAT'S WHAT WE THEY COULDN'T GET THOSE THEY CAN'T GET PEOPLE TO WORK THE DETAIL UNLESS THEY KNOW THAT THE IT'S GOING FORWARD. THAT CAME OUT OF KINDLE. YEAH. HEY. ROLAND MARTIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO YES, WE DO NOT. TYPICALLY WE ARE NOT GOING TO HIRE A DETAIL FOR AN EVENT THAT IS NOT A SCHEDULED EVENT, SO IF THERE'S NO PERMIT FOR AN EVENT, IT'S NOT IN OUR EYES.

IT'S NOT A SCHEDULED EVENT, SO WE AREN'T GOING TO HAVE DEPUTIES SIGN UP FOR AN EVENT THAT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED. OKAY SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS OUR PROCESSES AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, STAFF CORRECT ME. IF I AM WRONG , THEY GET THE PACKET. AND THEN THAT IS YOU GOT TO HAVE THE MARTIN COUNTY SHERIFF SAYS THAT WHOLE DETAILED THING. OKAY SO OBJECTION IS A LETTER OF REJECTION AND THE DETAIL IN ESSENCE ARE THE SAME THING. WE'RE SAYING THAT THAT WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THIS EVENT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DETAILED DEPUTIES OR WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THIS EVENT BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED DETAIL THAT SO THEY FILL OUT THE FORM COMPLETE FORM. OKAY AND THEY COME AT YOU. THEY HAVEN'T COME AT US YET BECAUSE WE REQUIRE THAT AS A PART OF OUR PACKAGE, BUT THEY COME AT YOU SAYING, OKAY, THIS IS THIS IS MY PACKAGE. I'M PLANNING 1500. UH, TORNADO. I AM PLANNING 1500. YOU KNOW A DAY, YOU KNOW. THAT'S EVERYBODY. NO, NOT ME. TORNADO WARNING ALRIGHT, WHERE AT WE'RE AT WELL, YOU HAVE TO SWIPE IT WHERE GUYS START THOSE PHONES FOR MAKING ALL THAT VOICE MINDED IT RING WE CAN WE SHOULD WE BE DIVING UNDER TABLES AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? OKAY OKAY, SO LET ME FOCUS. SO, UM THEY HAVE THE PACKAGE AND A PART OF THAT IS MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE WHAT THEY NEED FROM YOU. SO THEY COME AT YOU. BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR PERMIT YET BECAUSE WE REQUIRE THEM TO COME AT YOU AND SAY THIS IS OUR PACKAGE. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO SUBMIT. THESE ARE YOU KNOW, ARE FIGURES. SO ARE THEY ABLE TO GET THAT FROM YOU BEFORE THEY GET THEIR PERMIT? BECAUSE THEY COME AT YOU AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE NEED AND YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO TELL THEM OKAY IN ORDER FOR US TO DO, UM, WHAT WE NEED TO DO YOU FEEL THIS OUT? YOU HAVE TO. OKAY? WE DETERMINED BY WHAT YOU REQUIRE IS GOING TO REQUIRE THIS MUCH FOR THE DETAIL. YOU HAVE TO PAY X AMOUNT FOR THE DETAILS, SO THEY IMMEDIATELY OKAY. I GOTTA CHECK HERE. WRITE YOU OUT A CHECK. PAYS FOR THE DETAIL. THEY'RE ABLE TO GET WHATEVER THEY NEED FROM YOU. INCLUDED IN THEIR PACKAGE AND BRING IT TO US IN ORDER TO GET THEIR PERMIT.

BUT. BUT AGAIN THE WORD OF THE WORD OF A WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTY IN A MONTH. OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN EVENT IN A MONTH. WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT THIS EVENT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO ACTUALLY SCHEDULE DETAIL. OKAY BECAUSE IF IT'S TO THE POINT OF, THERE'S NO APPLICATION THERE, ARE THERE THE APPLICATIONS THAT COMPLETE APPLICATION, OKAY, BUT THEY COME AT YOU WITH A COMPLETED APPLICATION, AND THEY'RE JUST NEED THAT ONE THING IN ORDER TO SUBMIT IT TO US. OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS NEED US TO HAVE THE LETTER. BUT WE ALSO NEED THAT KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A PERMIT FOR THE EVENT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A DETAIL OF AN EVENT THAT'S NOT PERMITTED. SO WHAT COMES FIRST, THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG? YOU'RE THE SECOND TO LAST. REALLY? YES YEAH, I GUESS SO. ONCE THE SUN SO ONCE THEY GET YOU TAKEN CARE OF, THEY'RE ABLE TO, UM, SUBMIT TO US AND WE ARE ABLE TO DO THE PERMIT WHICH COMES BACK TO YOU GUYS THAT YES. LOOK, THEY GOT THEIR PERMIT. I USUALLY WHAT I DO FOR MONTHS IN ADVANCE, BECAUSE YOU GUYS DON'T BUG UNTIL UNTIL WHAT? HOW MANY, HE TOLD ME BECAUSE I GAVE HER MY WHOLE SCHEDULE FOR LIKE UNTIL THE WHOLE YEAR AND HE TOLD ME I COULDN'T DO THAT. WELL, THAT'S AGAIN. WHY THE 60 DAYS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT GIVES EVERYBODY ENOUGH TIME TO GET THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW. RIGHT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BECAUSE I RECENTLY AGAIN, PLEASE. THANKS MACDONALD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. UM I RECENTLY TOOK OVER THIS POSITION, SO SOME OF IT IS COMPUTER RECONFIGURATION ON THE BACK AND BECAUSE WHEN WE WOULD POST JOBS THAT FAR IN ADVANCE, IT WOULDN'T UNLOCK THEM FOR THE DEPUTIES TO APPLY FOR SO NOW

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