REGULAR AGENDA

[1. APPLICATION NO. SPA-23-004: A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PRESERVE AREA MANAGEMENT PLAN (PAMP) OF THE SANDY OAKS PUD APPROVED SITE PLAN AND TO FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF A ROAD AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TERMS OF THE TERRA LAGO PUD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN AND TERRA LAGO, LLC.]

TO OUR OUR ATTORNEY, MR. WADE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS.

GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO BE HANDLING THIS FIRST ITEM, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL AN INTRODUCTION FIRST.

I IMAGINE YOU ALL MAY BE HERE ABOUT ONE OR THE OTHER ONES, PERHAPS OTHER THAN THIS FIRST ONE HERE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE FOLLOWING A PROCEDURE ON ALL OF THESE ITEMS GOING IN A PARTICULAR ORDER.

AND THERE'S GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU ALL TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MATTERS THAT YOU'RE HERE FOR TONIGHT.

SO THE WAY IT'S GENERALLY GOING TO GO IS I AM GOING TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE SPEECH EXPLAINING WHAT WHAT'S TO BE

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CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD MEMBERS AS THEY MAKE THEIR DECISION.

IT MAY SOUND A LITTLE REDUNDANT WHEN I DO IT THREE TIMES AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT IN ADVANCE.

KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE ARE FOLKS OUT IN THE PUBLIC HERE TAKING IT DOWN WITH THE COURT REPORTER AND SO IT'S ALL GOT TO BE IN THE RECORD TO MAKE THINGS WORK WELL. BUT THE WAY IT'S GENERALLY GOING TO GO IS WE'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE EACH ITEM.

I'M GOING TO GIVE A LITTLE SPEECH EXPLAINING THE STANDARDS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO APPLY.

THEN STAFF IS GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION.

ALL RIGHT. CONCERNING THAT ITEM.

THEN THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO PUT ON A PRESENTATION CONCERNING THAT ITEM.

IN EACH OF THOSE INSTANCES, THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE GOING TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK STAFF QUESTIONS, ASKED THE APPLICANT QUESTIONS AND SO ON.

THEN THE CHAIR WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THAT WILL BE THE TIME WHEN YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THAT ITEM AND YOU WILL HAVE 3 MINUTES TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ANY THOUGHTS YOU HAVE CONCERNING THAT ITEM, AND THEN THEY WILL PROCEED AND MAKE A DECISION ON IT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING BE HEARD TONIGHT IN CASE YOU'RE HERE? JUST WANTED TO. AH, YES, THERE WAS JUST IN CASE ANYBODY HAPPENED TO BE HERE.

THERE WAS. THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL ITEM ADVERTISED FOR TONIGHT.

A VARIANCE THAT IS NOT ON THIS AGENDA.

IT IS NOT BEING HEARD TONIGHT.

IT WILL BE RE NOTICED.

THANK YOU, ALETHIA. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE FIRST ITEM.

THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION IS APPLICATION NUMBER SPA DASH 20 3-004.

A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PRESERVE AREA MANAGEMENT PLAN OF THE SAN DIEGO P.D.

APPROVED SITE PLAN AND TO FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF A ROAD AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TERMS OF THE TERRA LARGO PAD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN AND TERRA LAGO, LLC.

SO THE FIRST STEP IN THIS QUASI JUDICIAL PROCESS IS IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE TONIGHT, INCLUDING THE APPLICANT OR ANY STAFF OR WITNESSES OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM OK LIKE TO SPEAK TO IT AND OFFER EVIDENCE CONCERNING IT.

I WOULD ASK THAT YOU RAISE YOUR HAND NOW AND BE SWORN BY THE CLERK.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE FOR THIS FIRST ITEM? I DON'T SEE ANYONE.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PROCEED.

SO THIS APPLICATION, AS ARE THE OTHER TWO TONIGHT.

IS QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS IT REQUIRES THAT A PUBLIC HEARING BE HELD AND IT COMPLIED WITH CERTAIN PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED IN FLORIDA LAW.

QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS ARE LESS FORMAL THAN PROCEEDINGS BEFORE, FOR EXAMPLE, CIRCUIT COURT, BUT THEY'RE MORE FORMAL THAN THE NORMAL DECISION MAKING WE HAVE AT OUR MEETINGS. AND THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW BASIC STANDARDS OF NOTICE AND DUE PROCESS.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT THING FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND, PARTICULARLY AS A REMINDER FOR OUR BOARD, THE BOARD'S DECISION ON THIS ITEM AND THE NEXT TWO ITEMS THEY WILL CONSIDER HAS TO BE MADE BASED ON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

PLEASE NOTE THAT ONLY COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL FACT BASED TESTIMONY OR EVIDENCE WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD IN ITS DELIBERATION AND VOTING ON THIS ITEM.

PURE SPECULATION OR MERE OPINION, NOT BASED ON COMPETENT FACTS, CANNOT BE LEGALLY CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD IN WEIGHING THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE APPLICATION TESTIMONY WITH FACT BASED SUPPORT SUCH AS MINUTES, SURVEYS, ENGINEERING REPORTS AND THE LIKE MAY BE CONSIDERED COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

IF YOU INTEND TO SPEAK, PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND WHEN YOU COME FORWARD.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME CLEARLY FOR THE RECORD, WHETHER OR NOT YOU'VE BEEN SWORN AND YOUR QUALIFICATIONS OR INTERESTS IN THE MATTER, AND WE WOULD ASK YOU THAT YOU ALSO SUBMIT A SPEAKER CARD FOR IT TO BE INCLUDED IN THE RECORD.

AT THIS TIME.

MADAM CLERK, HAS THIS ITEM BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED? YES, IT'S BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED IN THE RECORD.

INCLUDES DOCUMENTATION TO THAT EFFECT.

THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, IF ANY BOARD MEMBER HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST CONCERNING THIS FIRST MATTER THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THEM FROM VOTING ON THIS ITEM, I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE DISCLOSE IT FOR THE RECORD.

COMPLETE THE REQUIRED VOTING CONFLICT FORM AND PROVIDE IT TO THE CLERK.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO NEEDS TO DISCLOSE A CONFLICT ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. WE'LL MOVE ON IF THERE'S ANY BOARD MEMBER WHO'S HAD ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS, AND THAT'S COMMUNICATIONS WITH ANYONE OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING OR A SITE VISIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

CONCERNING THIS ITEM, I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE DISCLOSE IT AND IDENTIFY WHO YOU MAY HAVE SPOKEN TO OR COMMUNICATED WITH CONCERNING THIS

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ITEM AND THE SUBSTANCE OF THAT COMMUNICATION.

ANYONE CONCERNING THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. WE'LL PROCEED ON AT THIS POINT.

TURN IT OVER TO STAFF FOR PRESENTATION OF THIS ITEM AND IT HAPPENS TO BE ON THIS ITEM.

I WILL BE PRESENTING IT.

SO BOARD MEMBERS, THIS IS AND I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SHARE TO THE SCREEN HERE REAL QUICK, DARYN, IF I CAN. GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND.

THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

IT'S KIND OF A. TECHNICAL PAPERWORK CLEANUP AMENDMENT.

WHAT IT IS, IS AN AMENDMENT OF A PAMPER PRESERVE AREA MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR SANDY OAKS.

BUT THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE TERRA LAGO POD PROJECT WAY BACK WHEN THE MASTER PLAN FOR TERRA LAGO AND PHASE ONE, A OF TERRA LAGO, CAME BEFORE THE VILLAGE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, A PORTION OF THAT CONTEMPLATED A ROAD RUNNING THROUGH TO AMERICAN STREET.

LET ME SEE IF I CAN ZOOM UP ANY FURTHER HERE.

YOU'LL SEE.

RIGHT HERE, THIS ROAD SEGMENT RIGHT HERE.

THAT PIECE IS ACTUALLY ON A LITTLE PORTION OF THE SANDY OAKES PAD.

ALL RIGHT. SO THE DEVELOPERS OF TERRA LAGO HAVE GOTTEN WITH THE THE SAN DIEGO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WHICH HAS CONTROL OVER THAT LAND AND WORKED OUT FOR THE 62 FEET, THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THAT TO BE DEDICATED TO THE VILLAGE.

AND. AND THEN TERRA LAGO WOULD ACTUALLY DO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT ROAD THE EXACT SAME WAY THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING THE REST OF THE ROADS PURSUANT TO THE AGREEMENT FOR ALL OF TERRA LAGO.

WHAT THIS ITEM TONIGHT IS, IS JUST A PAPERWORK CLEANUP TO ACCEPT THAT TO ACCEPT THAT THAT SITE PLAN CHANGE TO SANDY OAKS TO EFFECTUATE THAT.

SO WITH THAT, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PERMIT AMENDMENT THAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

THIS WILL BE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, MA'AM. HI.

YES. MY NAME IS RENITA PRESSLER.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

I SEE THAT THIS IS A PRESERVE AREA, AND THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SET ASIDE AS OPEN SPACE.

IS THAT. COULD YOU CLARIFY FOR ME AND ALSO THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY? IT'S 62 FEET LONG.

I SEE THAT.

IF THAT'S CORRECT.

BUT I DON'T SEE THE DEPTH OR EXACTLY HOW MUCH.

SO THIS IS OPEN SPACE THAT WILL BE FROM SANDY OAKS, A PRESERVE AREA THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE PRESERVED.

HOWEVER MUCH LAND THIS IS.

LET ME GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. PRESSLER. LET ME SHOW YOU ANOTHER PIECE HERE.

GIVE ME ONE SECOND TO SWITCH WHAT I AM SHARING.

SO AS I MENTIONED THE THE THE EVALUATION OF OF.

OF THE ALIGNMENT OF THAT ROAD AND SO ON ALREADY OCCURRED.

WITH RESPECT TO THE THE PWD OR PARDON ME, THE APPROVAL OF TERRA LAGO, PHASE ONE A.

IT GOING THROUGH THIS PIECE HERE AND THIS IS JUST A CLEANUP AMENDMENT, BUT I THINK THIS WILL HELP CLARIFY THINGS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER HERE.

THIS IS AN AERIAL FROM THE MARTIN COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER'S SITE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PORTION OF THIS OF THIS AREA HERE THAT RUNS ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY.

IT IS NOT AN AREA THAT IS WOODED OR PRISTINE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S AN EXISTING DIRT ROAD AND AND SOME DRAINAGE FACILITIES THERE THAT ARE GOING TO BE ENCOMPASSED IN THE NEW DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL GO ALONG WITH THIS ON THE.

WHEN TARA LAGO COMES IN AND DEVELOPS AND IMPROVES THAT ENTIRE PIECE THERE.

SO IT'S NOT GOING INTO ANY PORTION OF THAT AREA THAT THAT HAS ANY PRISTINE LANDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS, IT'S AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY EFFECTIVELY.

COULD YOU CLARIFY THE SIZE IS 62 FEET LONG? CORRECT. THAT THE DEPTH IS 62 FEET?

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OH, DEPTH IS 62 FEET.

THEN WHAT IS THE LENGTH? THE LENGTH OF THAT SEGMENT IS ACCORDING TO THE.

WELL, PARDON ME. LET ME LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT ONE OTHER.

DOCUMENT THERE, BECAUSE WE DO ACTUALLY WE SHARE THAT PIECE FOR YOU.

EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND.

THIS IS THE THE SKETCH OF DESCRIPTION FROM THE INSTRUMENT, DEDICATING IT TO THE VILLAGE.

IT'S A LENGTH OF 658 FEET AND A DEPTH OF SIX.

COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? SURE. YEAH, IT IS. IT'S A LENGTH OF ROUGHLY 658 FEET AND A DEPTH OF 62 FEET.

OKAY, MAYBE I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING.

THIS IS LAND THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OPEN SPACE.

650 ACRES.

NO, I'M SORRY. THAT IS FEET 658 FEET LONG.

OK 658 FEET LONG AND 62 FEET DEEP.

CORRECT. THAT BELONGS TO THE VILLAGE THAT THAT LAND ACTUALLY BELONGS TO THE SANDY OAKS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST DEDICATED TO THE VILLAGE, ACTUALLY.

ISN'T THERE A CONTRACT IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT'S BETWEEN THE VILLAGE AND THE DEVELOPER? I DON'T KNOW IF I PRINTED THAT, BUT SO IN THE AGENDA ITEM AND THANK YOU FOR THAT, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL BACKUP MATERIALS THAT THAT AREN'T THAT AREN'T BEFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL TONIGHT.

THEY WILL BE GOING BEFORE THE VILLAGE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL THAT GO ALONG WITH IT.

AND ONE OF THEM IS A DEED FROM THE SANDY OAKS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO THE VILLAGE.

SO THAT SEGMENT THERE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS GOING TO BE DEEDED FROM THE SANDY OAKS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO THE VILLAGE.

THEN THERE IS ANOTHER AGREEMENT IN THERE WHEREBY TARA LAGO IS AGREEING TO BUILD THE ROAD THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR PHASE ONE, A OF TARA LAGO, TO IMPLEMENT THAT APPROVED PLAN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER.

ABSOLUTELY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. KELLEN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU NEED TO ADD? NO, SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. MADAM CHAIR.

STAFFS MADE THEIR PRESENTATION.

APPLICANT HAS NOTHING FURTHER.

AND YOU'VE ASKED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THERE APPEARS NOT TO BE ANY.

SO I WOULD. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ITEM.

WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? I'LL MOVE. I'LL MOVE FOR STAFF APPROVAL OF THE ITEM IN A SECOND.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY, OK, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO OUR NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS APPLICATION NUMBER SP, DASH 22,

[2. APPLICATION NO. SP-22-036: A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THE MAJOR SITE PLAN FOR GRIND HARD AMMUNITION PROJECT, LOCATED THE NORTH SIDE OF SW FARM ROAD AT ITS JUNCTION WITH NW SILVER FOX ROAD. PARCEL APPROXIMATELY 19.17 ACRES IN SIZE.]

DASH 036, A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THE MAJOR SITE PLAN FOR GRIND HARD AMMUNITION PROJECT LOCATED LOCATED THE NORTH SIDE OF SOUTHWEST FARM ROAD AND ITS JUNCTION WITH NEW NORTHWEST SOUTH FOX ROAD PARCEL APPROXIMATELY 19.17 ACRES IN SIZE.

OKAY. SO.

OH, YEAH. I'M SO SORRY, MADAM CHAIR.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK AGAIN WITH REGARD TO THIS ITEM THAT THE CHAIR JUST ANNOUNCED, IF ANY INDIVIDUAL, INCLUDING THE APPLICANT, ANY INTERVENORS, STAFF, WITNESSES OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO PLAN TO SPEAK OR OFFER TESTIMONY DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING, AND THAT'S CONCERNING THE GRIND AMMUNITION PROJECT. PLEASE RISE AND BE SWORN BY THE VILLAGE CLERK.

ARE YOU GOING TO STAND BY? PLAYS DRIBBLE.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

THIS ITEM APPLICATION NUMBER SP DASH 22, DASH 036.

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CONCERNING THE GRINDROD AMMUNITION PROJECT IS ALSO QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE, WHICH REQUIRES THIS PUBLIC HEARING COMPLY WITH PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED IN FLORIDA LAW. QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS ARE LESS FORMAL THAN PROCEEDINGS BEFORE A CIRCUIT COURT, BUT ARE MORE FORMAL THAN A NORMAL PCB MEETING AND MUST FOLLOW BASIC STANDARDS OF NOTICE AND DUE PROCESS.

THE BOARD'S DECISION MUST BE MADE BASED UPON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

PLEASE NOTE THAT ONLY COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL FACT BASED TESTIMONY OR EVIDENCE WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD IN ITS DELIBERATION AND VOTING ON THIS ITEM.

IF YOU INTEND TO SPEAK, PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND WHEN YOU COME FORWARD.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME CLEARLY FOR THE RECORD, WHETHER OR NOT YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN AND YOUR QUALIFICATIONS OR INTERESTS IN THE MATTER.

WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU SUBMIT A SPEAKER CARD TO INCLUDE WITH THE RECORD.

MADAM CLERK, HAS THIS ITEM BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED? YES, THE ITEM WAS PROPERLY ADVERTISED IN THE RECORD.

INCLUDES DOCUMENTATION TO THAT EFFECT.

THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, IF ANY BOARD MEMBER HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THEM FROM VOTING ON THIS ITEM.

PLEASE DISCLOSE IT FOR THE RECORD NOW AND COMPLETE THE REQUIRED VOTING CONFLICT FORM AND PROVIDE IT TO THE VILLAGE CLERK.

ANY MEMBER OF THE BOARD NEED TO DISCLOSE A CONFLICT ON THIS ITEM.

HEARING NONE. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND PROCEED.

IF ANY BOARD MEMBER HAS HAD ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION, AS A REMINDER, THAT'S ANY COMMUNICATION WITH ANYONE CONCERNING THIS ITEM OUTSIDE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING OR MADE A SITE VISIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, PLEASE DISCLOSE THAT BY IDENTIFYING THE SUBJECT OF THE COMMUNICATION, THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM YOU THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE AND ANY CORRESPONDENCE YOU MAY HAVE RECEIVED.

IS THERE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION THAT NEED TO BE DISCLOSED? YES, MA'AM. I HAD ONE CONVERSATION WITH A RESIDENT IN INDIAN TOWN RESIDENT RONNIE HATAWAY, AND ONE CONVERSATION WITH A VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBER, JANET HERNANDEZ.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. YES, SIR.

YES. I'VE HAD EX PARTE COMMUNICATION WITH MR. BRANDON ROTH, WHO'S THE ARCHITECT FOR FOUR GRAND HARD AMMO AND THE OWNERS THAT ARE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE.

I MADE A SITE VISIT TO THEIR FACILITY IN STUART, FLORIDA, YESTERDAY TO EXAMINE THEIR PROPERTY.

AND JUST FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND HAVING EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS OR MAKING A SITE VISIT ARE LEGAL AND THEY'RE TOTALLY PERMITTED.

THE LAW REQUIRES SIMPLY THAT THEY BE DISCLOSED FOR THE PUBLIC AND REQUIRES THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ULTIMATELY CONSIDER THE EVIDENCE THAT IS PRESENTED IN THIS MEETING.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER DISCLOSURES? HERE ARE NONE. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON.

AND MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO TURN IT OVER TO STAFF FOR THEIR PRESENTATION.

OKAY. I JUST WANT TO ASK.

I SEE SOME LADIES STANDING IN THE AUDIENCE.

AND AS I TELL MY STUDENTS, I LIKE FOR THE GENTLEMAN TO ALLOW.

THERE'S A YOUNG LADY OVER HERE.

YOU? FINE. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE ALWAYS REMEMBER.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU CAN COME BACK AND SIT DOWN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NOTHING BETTER THAN A LITTLE LAUGHTER, RIGHT? OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO THE STAFF.

YES. LET THE RECORD SHOW.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR.

VICE CHAIR. MOLLY AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

FOR THE RECORD, ALTHEA JEFFERSON, DIRECTOR.

TONIGHT, WE'RE BRINGING YOU THIS CASE, WHICH IS A MAJOR SITE PLAN APPLICATION.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR A PROPOSED AMMUNITION MANUFACTURING.

FACILITY AS WELL AS STORAGE.

THE STORAGE ITSELF IS APPROXIMATELY 800 SQUARE FEET AND THE BUILDING IS 26,116 SQUARE FEET.

IT'S A ONE STORY BUILDING.

WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN OVER TO OUR PROJECT PLANNER, WHO IS MR. JEFF ADAMS REPRESENTING.

TRANS SYSTEMS AND THE VILLAGE FOR REVIEW OF THIS APPLICATION AS THE PROJECT PLANNER.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY, AGAIN.

JEFF KATIMS KNOW WHAT? I'M JUST GOING TO PLUG THIS IN AS MY BATTERY IS ABOUT TO DIE.

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WHILE HE PLUGS IN. I'D LIKE TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT BOARD MEMBER SU HAYEK ARRIVED IN PERSON AT 624.

HE PREVIOUSLY JOINED BY ZOOM.

HERE WE GO. THIS THING'S NORMALLY GOOD FOR, LIKE, 8 HOURS, SO IT'S SURPRISED ME.

OK. WE START BY SHOWING YOU THE SITE AND THE AREA AROUND IT, THE THE PROPOSED AMMUNITION FACTORIES ON THE SITE THAT'S SHOWN IN ORANGE.

WE'LL SHOW YOU A MORE DETAILED VERSION CLOSER UP.

BUT THIS IS JUST TO SHOW YOU THE GENERAL AREA.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE VILLAGE BOUNDARY IS IN RED, ILLUSTRATED ON THE TO THE SOUTH OR TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

THE CO-GENERATION PLAN IS UP THERE IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER, AND THERE'S A 475 ACRE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH WITH A LOT OF WETLANDS THAT BORDERED THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

THIS IS A CLOSER UP VERSION, AND WE CAN SEE THAT IT'S A 19 PLUS ACRE PROPERTY OF WHICH A LITTLE OVER 17 ARE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF FARM ROAD, WHICH IS THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THE FACILITY IS PROPOSED.

THERE'S A SMALL PORTION, A WEDGE SHAPED PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

IT'S UNDER THE THE SAME PROPERTY, UNDER THE SAME OWNERSHIP TO THE SOUTH OF THE ROAD.

AND THERE ARE NO IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS FACILITY PROPOSED ON THAT PIECE.

THE SITE'S ABOUT 1300 FEET, A LITTLE MORE THAN A QUARTER MILE FROM EAST TO WEST AND VARIES BETWEEN 400 AND ABOUT 650 FEET FROM NORTH TO SOUTH.

THE ZONING AND THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS FOR THE PROPERTY ARE BOTH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN, AND IT'S HARD TO MAKE OUT DETAILS AT THIS SCALE.

BUT WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THE THE MAIN MANUFACTURING BUILDING, WHICH IS THE BIG RECTANGLE THAT IS ABOUT 26,116 SQUARE FEET OF THAT UP.

THE PORTION THAT'S DEMARCATED ALL THE WAY TO THE LEFT SIDE IS STORAGE.

THE REST OF IT IS THE THE WHERE THE MANUFACTURING AND OTHER OPERATIONS TAKE PLACE.

AND WE'LL SHOW YOU A FLOOR PLAN ON A FURTHER SLIDE.

BUT WHAT YOU CAN GET FROM THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE FACTORY BUILDING AND THE LOCATION OF THE EXPLOSIVES STORAGE AND BY REGULATION, ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS AND NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION.

THOSE THOSE AMMUNITION LOCKERS, WHICH THEY CALL MAGAZINES.

IT'S A TERM OF ART THAT THEY USE.

THEY HAVE TO BE SEPARATED FROM THE BUILDING BY A CERTAIN DISTANCE FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.

THERE ARE FOUR LOW EXPLOSIVE MAGAZINES WHERE THEY WOULD BE STORING GUNPOWDER AND ONE HIGH EXPLOSIVE MAGAZINE, WHICH IS SEPARATED TO THE TOP FROM THE FOUR ON THE BOTTOM.

THAT WOULD BE FOR HIGH EXPLOSIVES.

AND THEY HAVE A PARKING FACILITY WITH LOADING DOCKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT BUILDING.

AND THE REST IS OPEN SPACE AND STORM WATER RETENTION AND OPEN SPACE.

THESE ARE RENDERINGS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.

I THINK THAT THEY DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF ILLUSTRATING WHAT THE BUILDING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

IGNORE THE LANDSCAPING THAT HAS NO BEARING ON WHAT'S ACTUALLY PROPOSED.

I THINK THAT WAS JUST ARTISTIC LICENSE.

SO THE BUILDING ITSELF IS WHAT YOU SHOULD REALLY BE LOOKING AT HERE.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TOP THE TOP DRAWING IS THE SOUTH FACING OR FRONT ELEVATION.

THE LOADING DOCKS ARE ON THE FAR END TO THE LEFT, THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE OFFICE AND ALL THAT IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

THE ONE BELOW THAT IN THE MIDDLE ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE EAST ELEVATION.

THE ONE BELOW THAT IS THE BACK TO SIDES OF THE BUILDING.

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AND IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT, THAT LONE IMAGE THERE IS THE LOADING DOCKS.

THAT'S THE FRONT ELEVATION ON THE ON THE WEST SIDE.

THE FLOOR PLAN IS IT TAKES UP TWO SLIDES.

SO THIS IS THE EAST HALF OF IT.

AND I INTERPRETED WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THESE DIFFERENT AREAS AND THE APPLICANT CAN CAN CORRECT ME WHEN IT'S THEIR TURN IF I'M MISLABELED ANYTHING.

BUT ESSENTIALLY THEY HAVE OFFICE FUNCTIONS ON THE BOTTOM.

MANUFACTURING ON TOP OF THAT.

AND THEN AS YOU MOVE TO THE LEFT ASSEMBLY AND THEN THE CONTINUATION OF THE FLOOR PLAN, WHICH IS THE PACKAGING, THE LOADING AND MATERIAL STORAGE AND THEN THE PRODUCT STORAGE ALL THE WAY TO THE LEFT.

THIS IS AN IMAGE SHARED BY THE APPLICANT THAT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF A STORAGE MAGAZINE.

ESSENTIALLY, THESE ARE BUILT TO FEDERAL REGULATIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE STORAGE OF EXPLOSIVES.

AND THERE'S DIFFERENT RATINGS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THESE BASED UPON THE TYPE OF PROTECTION THEY OFFER, WHICH IN TURN IS BASED UPON THE TYPE OF EXPLOSIVES THAT WOULD BE STORED WITHIN.

THIS IS A BLAST RADIUS EXHIBIT.

AND WHAT THIS SHOWS, THERE ARE SEVERAL CONCENTRIC RINGS AND THEY EACH REPRESENT THE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS BETWEEN ANYWHERE WHERE EXPLOSIVES ARE STORED OR WORKED ON, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE ENTIRE SITE AND ADJACENT BUILDINGS AND ROADS.

SO THE THE CIRCLES ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S ONE IN RED THAT'S FOR THE HIGH EXPLOSIVE STORAGE.

AND THE FURTHEST THERE'S 1 TO 3 CONCENTRIC RINGS.

THE ONE THAT'S FURTHEST OUT IS ESSENTIALLY THE ONE THAT IS SEPARATION FROM OTHER INHABITED BUILDINGS THAT ARE OFFSITE AND AND PUBLIC ROADWAYS.

THE LOW EXPLOSIVE STORAGE, WHICH IS TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT, HAS A SEPARATE SET OF CONCENTRIC RINGS, WHICH ARE HARD TO SEE BECAUSE THEY'RE GRAYISH, BUT THEY ALSO ARE FULLY CONTAINED WITHIN THE PROPERTY AND DON'T IMPACT FARM ROAD OR ANY OTHER PROPERTY.

THE BUILDING ITSELF HAS THE SAME THREE RINGS AROUND IT.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, YOU SEE THAT UNDER THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, WHICH IS BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF EXPLOSIVES THAT THE APPLICANT HAS STATED ON THIS DRAWING, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO STORE, THAT THE THE FURTHEST BLAST RADIUS IS IS FURTHER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE FROM FARM ROAD.

AND IT'S FULLY CONTAINED WITHIN THE SITE, EXCEPT ABOUT 75 FEET AT ITS MOST EXTREME ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH WOULD COINCIDE WITH SOME WETLANDS.

THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

THERE'S EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING PROPOSED AT THE ENTRANCE ALONG FARM ROAD AND ALONG THE DRIVE INTO THE SITE.

THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF FARM ROAD WILL BE LANDSCAPED WITH STREET TREES AND IRRIGATED.

AND THE PARKING AND LOADING AREA ALSO IS SURROUNDED BY BY TREES.

AND THE STORAGE AREA FOR THE EXPLOSIVES WILL HAVE A HEDGE AROUND IT.

NOW FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE RECOMMENDATIONS CAN GET KIND OF LENGTHY.

SO I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THEM, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE CHAIR.

NUMBER ONE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, THE FIRST BEING THAT THE PLANS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS APPROVAL, BUT WHEN THEY COME FOR BUILDING PERMITS AND OTHER PERMITS HAVE TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THOSE SUBMITTED FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH ARE IN THE BACKUP AND WHICH WE'VE SHOWED YOU HERE.

NUMBER TWO, PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A DEVELOPMENT ORDER, THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO MAKE SOME TECHNICAL REVISIONS TO THE EAST ELEVATION ON THE RENDERINGS TO LANDSCAPE PLANS, PARKING SPACE, DETAIL AND AND DATA TABLE.

THESE ARE ALL THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT THAT AREN'T SUBSTANTIVE AND AND THEY DON'T AFFECT THE WHAT THE BOARD'S CONSIDERING IT'S JUST LITTLE TECHNICAL FIXES THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE.

NUMBER THREE PROVIDE THE FOLLOWING AS PART OF THE BUILDING SET SUBMITTAL SIGN DIMENSIONS AND

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MATERIALS, THE SIGNS SHOWN ON THE RENDERING ARE ILLUSTRATIVE, AND THEY'RE NOT APPROVED AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN, AND THEY'RE NOT PROPOSED FOR APPROVAL AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN.

TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATION.

THE BUILDING COLOR SHALL BE AS SPECIFIED OR SIMILAR.

IF IT DEPARTS FROM WHAT'S SHOWN OR INDICATED, THEN IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL.

THE DETAILS OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE GREEN BUILDING STANDARDS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS SECTION 369.

THOSE THAT WERE NOT ADDRESSED IN THE SITE SITE PLAN SUBMITTAL, WHICH INCLUDE LOW EMITTING CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS, WATER CONSERVATION AND REFLECTIVE ROOF FINISH NEED TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THAT BUILDING PERMIT SET.

SOME OF THOSE DETAILS TEND NOT TO BE KNOWN UNTIL FURTHER THEY'RE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD WITH CONSTRUCTION LEVEL DRAWINGS.

NEXT, MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT SHALL BE LOCATED AT THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.

THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EV PARKING SPACE, AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, PARKING SPACE, SIGN DETAIL, THE EXACT HEIGHT OF THE WALL PACKS, WHICH ARE THE BUILDING MOUNTED LIGHTING FIXTURES NEED TO BE DETERMINED ON THE BUILDING PERMIT PLANS AND ANY CHANGE TO THE SPECIFIED FIXTURES WOULD REQUIRE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, AND ANY BARBED WIRE MUST BE LIMITED TO THE TOP TWO FEET OF THE FENCE, NOT TO EXCEED EIGHT FEET WITH NO SPIRAL SPIRAL WIRE.

THEY NEED TO PROVIDE FIRE FLOW CALCULATIONS.

THEY NEED TO CONDUCT A HYDRANT FLOW TEST AND TO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE WATER SOURCE IF THE VILLAGE'S WATER SYSTEM DOES NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT PRESSURE.

THEY NEED TO PROVIDE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCE PERMIT PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A PERMIT FOR SITE WORK.

THEY NEED TO CORRECT THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION ON THE PLAN SET TO MATCH THE PROPERTY SURVEY, AND THAT CONCLUDES THE CONDITIONS AND THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD TO STAFF? YES, GO AHEAD. OKAY.

WITH THAT, I GUESS THE FLOW TEST OR THE THE THE FIRE HYDRANT HAS NOT BEEN TESTED YET.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THIS WILL INCUR ANY EXTRA CHARGES TO THE VILLAGE FOR FIRE SUPPRESSION OR EXPLOSION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. ANY OTHER INCREASE? BECAUSE WE PAY FOR THAT.

WILL THAT WILL WE SUFFER ANY INCREASED CHARGE IN THAT WAY FOR.

IF EVERYONE'S LOOKING AT ME, THE ANSWER WOULD BE NO.

THAT WOULD BE ON THE APPLICANT FOR THEY WOULD CONTACT US WITH THE FLOW TEST ON THE RECORD.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. MY NAME IS DOUG CULLEN.

I'M THE FIRE MARSHAL FOR MARTIN COUNTY.

CAN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE, SIR? SURE. OKAY.

MY NAME IS DOUG CULLEN. I'M THE FIRE MARSHAL FOR MARTIN COUNTY, AND IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO REVIEW THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS WITHIN INDIAN TOWN IN AN AGREEMENT WITH MARTIN COUNTY.

SO MY PRIMARY REASON FOR DOING THAT IS I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE ACCESS AND WATER FLOW IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FLORIDA FIRE PREVENTION CODE.

SO THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO.

THE APPLICANT WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THE FLOW TEST.

NO, NO. I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU HAVE AN INCREASED RISK.

YOU KNOW, LIKE WITH INSURANCE, YOU HAVE AN ACTUARY.

AND IF YOU HAVE AN INCREASED RISK WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I MEAN, WE'VE NEVER HAD AN APPLICATION THAT NEEDED A BLAST EXHIBIT BEFORE.

SO SINCE WE PAY FOR THOSE SERVICES, I WANTED TO KNOW IF JUST HAVING A FACILITY LIKE THIS WITH THIS TYPE OF POTENTIAL WOULD CAUSE INCREASED COSTS TO THE VILLAGE.

I COULDN'T ANSWER THAT. MY RESPONSIBILITY IS THE FLORIDA FIRE PREVENTION CODE.

RIGHT. SO WE WE DON'T KNOW.

I GUESS WE'D HAVE TO INQUIRE.

I WOULD THINK THE APPLICANT'S INSURANCE COMPANY WOULD BE THERE.

THE PRIMARY.

OKAY. FOR THAT, LET'S HEAR FROM OUR ATTORNEY.

YEAH. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I CAN ADDRESS THAT QUESTION WITH REGARD TO WITH REGARD TO ANY INSURANCE RISK ONE WAY OR THE OTHER THAT WOULD BE ON THE APPLICANT, THE PROPERTY OWNER AND SO ON.

WITH REGARD TO THE COSTS INCURRED BY THE VILLAGE FOR FIRE SERVICES, AS YOU ALL AS YOU ALL MAY KNOW, WE ARE IN AN AGREEMENT WITH MARTIN COUNTY TO PROVIDE FIRE SERVICES WITHIN THE VILLAGE, AND THAT IS PURSUANT TO THE VILLAGE OPTING INTO THE COUNTY'S MST2 AND MSB, THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE TAXING DISTRICT AND MUNICIPAL SERVICE BENEFIT UNIT DISTRICT.

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THOSE ARE ASSESSED BASED ON MATTERS THAT DO NOT HAVE TO DO WITH AN ASSESSMENT OF RISK OF A PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.

SO IT NONE OF THAT.

NO QUALIFICATION WITH REGARD TO THAT WOULD VARY WHAT WE PAY PURSUANT TO THOSE ARRANGEMENTS AND AGREEMENTS.

THANK YOU. ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THAT? BOARD MEMBER PRESSLER.

YES, I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

I GUESS IT'S FOR STAFF ON THE ZONING FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

AGAIN, I DON'T SEE HOW THERE ISN'T LIKE A LIST THAT COVERS EVERYTHING OF WHAT IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO ME LIKE THIS IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

SO ALTHEA JEFFERSON FOR THE RECORD, THE APPLICANT DID MAKE A REQUEST PRIOR TO SUBMITTING THEIR APPLICATION FOR A ZONING VERIFICATION FOR THE USES OF THIS PROPERTY.

STAFF TYPICALLY USES THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AS WELL AS THE ZONING AND THE PERMITTED USE TABLE.

LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED, OUR PERMITTED USE TABLE DOES NOT SPECIFY THIS PARTICULAR USE.

YEAH. SO THE CODE PROVIDES THAT WE MAKE A DETERMINATION BASED ON THE ACTUAL LIST OF USES ON THE PERMITTED USE TABLE ON THE ACTUAL WHAT THE ACTUAL USES THAT ARE LISTED IN THE CODE ON THE PERMITTED USE TABLE.

SO STAFF LIKENED THIS PARTICULAR USE TO THE CHEMICAL MANUFACTURING AND STORAGE USE.

AND IT WAS DETERMINED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT SIMILAR USE FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

I SEE. THANK YOU.

OKAY. REMEMBER WHAT? YOU'RE WELCOME. YES.

WHEN REVIEWING THIS APPLICATION AND UNDERSTANDING HOW LONG IT'S TAKING.

GRIND HARD TO GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WHICH HAS BEEN EXTREMELY LONG AND TEDIOUS, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.

I WENT THROUGH AND AND LOOKED AT A FEW THINGS THAT THE STAFF HAS BEEN ASKING.

GRIND HARD TO SUPPLY.

MY FIRST QUESTION IS TO STAFF DID THE APPLICANT ASK TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE GREEN AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS INCENTIVES? DID THEY ASK TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROGRAM? NO, THEY DID NOT.

OKAY. SO THEY DIDN'T ASK TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROGRAM, BUT YET THEY'RE BEING HELD TO THAT STANDARD.

COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHY THAT'S NOT CORRECT? THERE ARE STANDARDS AND THEN THERE ARE INCENTIVES.

THEY'RE SEPARATE. ALL DEVELOPMENT IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS HAS TO HAS TO COMPLY WITH, NOT THE INCENTIVES.

THOSE ARE SEPARATE. WELL, I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE DURING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS, ALL THE GREEN AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WERE TO BE INCENTIVIZED AND NOT TO BE REQUIRED AS PART OF A DEVELOPMENT STANDARD.

AND I SEE THAT THEY'VE BEEN ASKED TO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE REFLECTIVITY OF THE ROOFING MEMBRANE THAT IS A GREEN AND SUSTAINABLE STANDARD. SO MY QUESTION IS, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU GO TO THE GREEN AND SUSTAINABLE, SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, IT SAYS GREEN AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES ARE AVAILABLE TO NEW DEVELOPMENT, MEANING NOT REQUIRE IT'S NOT A MANDATORY REQUIREMENT.

THEN YOU GO FURTHER DOWN SECTION J.

IT SAYS, TURNING TO THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS.

THE APPLICANT SHALL DO THE FOLLOWING.

IN ORDER TO BE CONSIDERED FOR GREEN AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES, THE APPLICANT MUST SUCCESSFULLY REGISTER THE PROJECT WITH THE GREEN BUILDING CERTIFICATION INSTITUTE.

AND ON AND ON AND ON. I DON'T WANT TO BORE YOU WITH ALL THIS STUFF, BUT I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHY WE ARE HOLDING APPLICANTS TO THAT STANDARD WHEN LET ME REFER TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UNDER POLICY.

WL 2.1.3 SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT THROUGH INCENTIVES WHICH MAY INCLUDE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, FAST TRACKING, PERMIT FEE REBATES, IMPACT FEE DEFERRALS, ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCES AND VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN SHALL ENCOURAGE LEADERSHIP IN THE GREEN ENERGY, GREEN AND ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN, ALSO KNOWN AS LEED.

I DON'T SEE IN THE LEADERS WHERE SOME OF THESE THINGS APPLY AND SOME OF THEM DON'T.

THEY. THEY'RE ASKED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE LEAD PROGRAM OR THEY DON'T.

SO I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THIS, LOOKING AT I'M GOING TO GO ON.

WE'LL WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SUBJECT.

AND LOOKING AT THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN STAFF AND THE APPLICANT, I NOTICED THAT THERE WERE MANY THINGS, IN MY OPINION, THAT ARE NOT

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TYPICALLY EVER SEEN IN A SITE PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS.

YOU KNOW. FOR EXAMPLE, THE HEIGHT OF LIGHT FIXTURES.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COMES INTO THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.

YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT I FIND IT INTERESTING.

WE'RE ASKING FOR AN APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.

BUT IF YOU GO TO NUMBER TWO, WHATEVER YOUR GRAPHIC ONLINE IS DIFFERENT THAN WE HAVE PRINTED HERE.

IT'S SAYS PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A DEVELOPMENT ORDER.

WELL, IF WE APPROVE SOMETHING, YOU DON'T GET A DEVELOPMENT ORDER.

THEY HAVEN'T BEEN APPROVED.

THEY'VE STILL GOT TO GO THROUGH AN ADDITIONAL PROCESS THAT STAFF IS GOING TO GO DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, REVISED ELEVATIONS TO SHOW A CANOPY OVER THE EAST ELEVATION DOORWAY. GUYS, THIS IS A SITE PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS.

A SITE PLAN TYPICALLY TAKES AND SAYS, ARE YOU ALLOWED TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO ON THIS PROPERTY? CAN WE FIT THE REQUIRED UTILITIES PARKING, SO ON AND SO FORTH? YOU CREATE A FOOTPRINT.

THAT FOOTPRINT MAY CHANGE THROUGH THE TO THE PROCESS WHERE YOU WORK WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING USUALLY DOESN'T TAKE PLACE UNTIL ACTUALLY THE SITE PLAN HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BECAUSE THE ARCHITECTS, THE DESIGN PROFESSIONALS DON'T REALLY KNOW UNTIL YOU GET DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY, UNTIL IT'S PROVED WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DESIGN AND BUILD.

AND A LOT OF THESE DETAILS HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR ON HERE ARE SOMETHING THAT IS DONE THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING ITSELF.

AND A LOT OF THESE THINGS TAKE PLACE DURING A PERMIT PROCESS FOR BUILDING THE BUILDING, NOT THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS.

SO WHEN I SEE PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A DEVELOPMENT ORDER, REVISED ELEVATIONS FOR A CANOPY, PROVIDE PLANNING AND IRRIGATION PLANS SIGNED AND SEALED ON OR AFTER THE DATE OF DRAWING.

GUYS, THESE THINGS CAN BE DONE.

THESE GUYS CAN START THEIR SITE WORK, START TURNING DIRT, START MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT ALL THESE THINGS.

LET ME CONTINUE. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

PLACE A NOTE ON THE PLAN.

THAT INVASIVE EXOTIC VEGETATION TO BE REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A CO.

REMOVE TREE MITIGATION NOTE IN PLANNING PLAN REVISE ELEVATION.

SO IN ROOFTOP X.

OKAY, HERE WE GO. JUST TO GIVE YOU A BIT OF MY BACKGROUND, I'M A GENERAL CONTRACTOR.

I WAS ALSO IN THE ARCHITECTURAL BUSINESS.

ONCE AGAIN, WHEN YOU TAKE A FACILITY LIKE THESE GUYS HAVE AND I WENT AND VISITED THEIR FACILITY IN STUART TO SEE WHAT IS ENTAILED.

THERE IS A TON OF MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL ISSUES THAT WILL GO THROUGH A DESIGN PROCESS AND THE ENGINEERS WILL DECIDE WHERE THE EQUIPMENT NEEDS TO GO OR THE APPROPRIATE PLACE IS. JUST BECAUSE WE WANT A PRETTY PICTURE SOMETIMES DOESN'T WORK IN REALITY.

SO WITH THAT SAID, WANTING TO SEE AN ELEVATION SHOWING THE ROOFTOP X OK AT WHAT ANGLE OF ATTACK ARE WE LOOKING AT A LINE DRAWING? ARE WE LOOKING AT IT FROM SEVEN FEET FROM THE GROUND UP IN A BUILDING IS 26 FEET HIGH.

AND WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE AC, THIS IS TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE FOR A SITE PLAN APPROVAL TO GO THROUGH THIS SORT OF EXERCISE.

SO WITH THAT SAID.

IF I GET A CHANCE TO MAKE A MOTION, IT'S GOING TO BE APPROVED THE SITE PLAN AND ALL INDIRECT STAFF TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT THROUGH ALL THESE OTHER ISSUES PRIOR TO A BUILDING PERMIT.

BUT LET THEM GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THE SITE WORK AND GET MOVING ON THIS PROJECT.

BECAUSE WHAT I SEE, WHAT I SEE HERE TROUBLES ME THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE MASS CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT PART OF THE CODE WE'RE APPLYING.

IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE A CONFLICT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE LVRS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO THAT'S THAT'S MY $0.02.

THANK YOU. MEMBER WATSON.

MEMBER ON SAGER.

YES. THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THERE IS ANY IF PART OF THE SITE PLANNING HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH MAKING SURE THERE'S A DAMAGE MITIGATION PLAN OR RISK MANAGEMENT PLAN IN PLACE, ACCESS CONTROL TO THE EXPLOSIVES AND A CONTAINMENT AND SECURITY PLAN.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE REQUIRE AS PART OF THE SITE APPROVAL? NO, MA'AM. THAT IS THAT IS NOT THE FIRE ACCESS IS THAT'S WHAT CHIEF KILLEEN REVIEWS THE PLAN FOR.

THERE'S THE LIKE I SAID, THE FEDERAL AND STATE REGULATIONS AS FAR AS THE LOCATION OF THE EXPLOSIVES, THE THE TYPE OF CONTAINMENT AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

BUT AS FAR AS.

AND THEY ALSO HAVE SOME SECURITY REQUIREMENTS AS WELL.

BUT THE VILLAGE DOES NOT IMPOSE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU.

MEMBER ON SAGER.

MEMBER PRESSLER, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

THIS IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES. OKAY.

MADAM CHAIR? YES, I'D ACTUALLY YOU.

THIS HAS ALL BEEN AT THE POINT IN THE PROCESS WHERE DIRECTING QUESTIONS TO STAFF THE NEXT THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS IS THE APPLICANT BEING ABLE TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL, PRESENT ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THE APPLICANT MAY HAVE, AND THEN QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

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SO WE'LL HAVE A SECOND CHANCE TO QUESTION THE APPLICANT.

YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. YES. OKAY.

SO WE CAN CALL FOR THE APPLICANT NOW TO COME.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, YES.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

CAN LOWER THAT A LITTLE BIT.

GOOD EVENING. I AM REBECCA HALL.

I AM AN ACP PLANNER WITH MV ENGINEERING, AND I AM HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF GRIND HEART AMMUNITION AS WELL AS GRIND HARD REALITY.

WE ARE PROPOSING A 26,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY FOR MANUFACTURING WITH RELATED STORAGE.

THE ENTIRE SITE ITSELF IS 19 ACRES AND IT SITS BACK 255 FEET FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE.

AND OUR SITE PLAN SHOWS COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE OTHER SETBACKS.

THIS FACILITY EXCEEDS ALL LANDSCAPING CODES, AS WELL AS THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.

AND I REALLY WANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT THIS PROJECT BRINGS JOBS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY WITH A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF ECONOMIC INVESTMENT IN THE LAND AS WELL AS THE BUILDING.

I'D JUST LIKE TO QUICKLY INTRODUCE THE GRINDER TEAM.

TO MY RIGHT HERE IS BARRY SKOLNICK WITH GRIND HARD REALTY, BRANDON ROTH, WHO REPRESENTS THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR.

AND THEN I HAVE AUSTIN WARES.

THERE HE IS, AUSTIN WEISS.

HE IS THE OPERATOR AND HE'S A VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN IN HIS OWN RIGHT WITH THE AMMUNITION MANUFACTURING.

SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE IN TONIGHT OF SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.

AND IF YOU COULD JUST WAVE, MAYBE.

THANK YOU. I AM HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS, PROVIDE YOU SOME RESPONSES, ANYTHING YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING THE ENGINEERING, THE BUILDING. AND I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT TONIGHT.

OKAY. BOARD MEMBER PRESSLER YES, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS FOR MR. WEISS. I'D LIKE TO PASS OUT A.

TREASURE COAST NEWSPAPER ARTICLE FROM MARCH 18TH, 2021, WHEN YOU WERE QUOTED IN THE PAPER QUITE A WHILE AGO.

I NEED TO PASS OUT COPIES TO FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, AND I HAVE A COPY.

I HAVE A COPY FOR YOU ALSO, JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DO YOU NEED ONE? NO, MA'AM.

AT THIS TIME. I GUESS THERE WAS A PART OF YOUR COMPANY, WHICH IS FIVE YEARS OLD, ABOUT THAT WAS GOING INTO THE WILLOUGHBY AREA.

WILL IT BE BUSINESS PARK? AND THERE WAS PEOPLE IN WILLOUGHBY, RESIDENTS WHO WERE CONCERNED, AND PERHAPS YOU WERE SEEKING TO HELP THEM FEEL A LITTLE BETTER ABOUT THE MANUFACTURING.

AND YOU WERE SAYING THAT THE COPPER PORTION.

YES, MA'AM. WAS GOING TO BE THERE IN WILLOUGHBY.

AND THIS IS A QUOTE WHICH STOOD OUT TO ME.

THE MORE DANGEROUS PARTS WOULD BE MANUFACTURED IN INDIAN TOWN.

AND YOU WENT ON TO SAY, RATHER THAN MIXING THE POWDER FOR THE MANUFACTURING PROCESS, GRIND HARD AMMO BUYS IT FROM A FLORIDA COMPANY THAT MAKES MILITARY SUPPLIES.

THE INDIAN TOWN PLANT WOULD BE, QUOTE, WHERE THE ENERGETICS ARE MANUFACTURED FOR THE CASE.

AND THAT'S WHAT PROPELS THE BULLET.

THAT'S CORRECT. THE SMALL PRIMER THAT'S IN THE BOTTOM OF THE WELL, I MEAN, THIS DOESN'T MAKE ME FEEL GOOD AT ALL.

IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REJECTED BY THE RESIDENTS OF WILLOUGHBY WILL BE FINE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF INDIAN TOWN.

AND THAT WAS DUE TO THE BLAST ARC.

MAN WHAT? THAT WAS DUE TO THE BLAST ARC THAT WE HAD PUT OUT THERE? YES. WHICH EXCEEDS THE 20 ACRES.

IT EXCEEDS THE PROPERTY.

WELL, I MEAN, THE RED.

THE BLACK ONE IS NOT THE RED ONE.

JOSEPH LEE GARDENS IS 1.2 MILES FROM THIS LOCATION.

APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE.

YES. AND THE RED ARC IS WHAT THE ATF, THE ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS, THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT INSIDE OF A TYPE TWO MAGAZINE.

YES. MY HUSBAND IS RETIRED, ATF.

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YES. SO BUT ANYWAY, YOUR STATEMENTS TO THE NEWSPAPER ARE THOSE QUOTES, CORRECT? YES, THEY ARE.

THE HIGHER EXPLOSIVE NATURE STORED OUT HERE IN THE ON PROPERTY.

I MEAN, THIS IS A LOW INCOME AREA.

IT'S ALSO A MINORITY DOMINANT AREA.

AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THINGS THAT ARE REJECTED FROM OTHER HIGHER INCOME AREAS ARE PUT OUT HERE.

UNDERSTOOD. WE'VE HAD A LONG HISTORY OF THIS KIND OF THING WHERE, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT'S POLLUTING OR DANGEROUS SEEMS TO BE PUSHED OUT TO INDIAN TOWN.

YES, MA'AM. AND THAT WAS NOT AT ALL THE CASE.

WHAT HAPPENED WAS IN THE CITY OF STUART, THE THE ACTUAL BUILDING LINES WOULD NOT HAVE WORKED FOR WHAT WE NEEDED IT TO DO.

SO WE DECIDED TO INVEST OUT IN INDIAN TOWN FOR THE PROPERTY SIZE.

EVERYTHING'S CONTAINED.

EVERYTHING HAS TO BE REGULATED BY THE ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS. IT'S IT'S A VERY SERIOUS BUSINESS.

AND FOR US, IT'S SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR OUR EMPLOYEES, OUR FAMILY.

WE KNOW EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON STAFF.

EVERYBODY MATTERS. WE'RE NOT PUSHING SOMETHING OUT FROM STUART TO COME OUT HERE BECAUSE IT'S LOW INCOME.

WE'RE COMING OUT HERE TO CREATE JOBS.

AND THE BIGGEST THING FOR US IS WE NEEDED THE PROPERTY, WE NEEDED THE SIZE.

WE COULD NOT WE COULD NOT FIND THAT IN THE CITY OF STUART.

I MEAN, IT'S WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OF THE VILLAGE.

I DON'T SEE I MEAN, DID YOU LOOK AT PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARY OF A VILLAGE LIKE OUR TOWN? WELL, WE LOOKED FOR WHAT WE LOOKED FOR WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS LIGHT.

INDUSTRIAL IS WHAT WE WERE REQUIRED BY.

AND WE SPOKE TO THE ATF, WE SPOKE TO DIFFERENT PARTIES.

AND THIS IS WHAT WE FOUND THAT WORKED PERFECTLY.

ANYTHING LIKE A STATIC CHARGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD SET THIS OFF.

IS THAT RIGHT? NO, THAT'S INCORRECT.

SO WHAT? SO BASICALLY, ALL OF THE ALL THE MATERIAL IS INERT.

AND SO IT'S MIXED IN A VERY SMALL BATCH, THAT SMALL BATCH.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL BUILD OUT AND REBECCA GET TO GO INTO DETAILS ON THIS IS ALL WITHIN A VERY BIG CONCRETE BLAST WALL.

EVERYTHING IS DIRECTED TO GO UP, NOT OUT.

THAT'S BASICALLY HOW IT'S DESIGNED.

IT'S ON PURPOSE THAT WAY.

NOBODY NOTHING ON THIS WAY OR ANY LEFT OR RIGHT OR ANY LATERAL WOULD HAPPEN.

SO FOR US, WE WERE REQUIRED BY THE ATF TO DO THIS, AND THAT'S HOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT.

WELL, I SEE THAT YOUR STORAGE IS 144 FEET FROM YOUR BUILDING.

YES. THAT'S VERY INHABITED BUILDING DISTANCE.

SO, I MEAN, SOMETHING YOU ANTICIPATE SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN THERE? NO, IT'S BASICALLY IT'S BASICALLY THE REQUIREMENTS FROM THE ATF.

WE HAVE WE'VE MANUFACTURED AMMUNITION AND HAVE NEVER HAD ISSUES, KNOCK ON WOOD.

AND I DON'T PLAN ON EVER HAVING ISSUES BECAUSE WE'RE OVERLY SAFE.

WELL, WE THERE'S NO CORNERS CUT.

EVERYTHING IS BUILT ABOVE AND BEYOND.

IT'S IT'S A VERY IT'S A VERY SERIOUS THING BECAUSE, AGAIN, MY WIFE, MY FAMILY, EVERYBODY, I KNOW THEIR WORKS AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THING.

SAFETY IS THE FIRST PART OF OUR BUSINESS.

WELL, YOU'VE ONLY BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR FIVE YEARS.

IT'S NOT A LONG TIME.

AND I JUST YOU KNOW, YOUR STATEMENTS TO THE NEWSPAPER SEEKING TO REASSURE WILLOUGHBY, I FOUND THAT VERY DISTURBING. I UNDERSTAND.

AND THAT'S ULTIMATELY THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHY WE DECIDED TO MANUFACTURE ON A LARGER PIECE OF PROPERTY.

THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

OKAY. I THINK.

REMEMBER WATSON? YEAH. MY QUESTION FOR THE ADVOCATE, WHEN I STATED EARLIER THAT I WOULD SUPPORT A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT ANY.

EXCUSE ME, WITHOUT NUMBER TWO, WHICH WAS, YOU KNOW, SOME REQUIREMENTS PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A DEVELOPMENT ORDER.

DO YOU SEE ANY PROBLEM LOOKING AT NUMBER TWO WITH BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR SITE WORK AND GETTING THE PROJECT UNDERWAY? ANY OF THESE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM MEETING BEFORE PERMIT OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING? NO. OKAY.

I JUST WANTED ONE OF THE BOARD TO HEAR THAT THAT BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANYTHING HERE THAT WOULD STAND IN THE WAY OF ALLOWING YOU ALL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MEMBER WATSON.

MA'AM IS A CHAIR OF.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SIT DOWN.

YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

MEMBER ON SAGER.

THANK YOU. HOW MANY JOBS WILL YOU BE PROVIDING? ROUGHLY 30 SHIFTS, MA'AM.

AND YOU WILL BE BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THE VILLAGE.

THANK GOODNESS YOU'LL BE A HELP TO OUR TAX BASE.

THAT'S CORRECT. YES, MA'AM.

AND YOU HAVE RISK MANAGEMENT PLANS? OH, ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.

AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING OUT HERE ARE THE PRIMERS, WHICH ARE TEENSY LITTLE TINY LITTLE THINGS.

YES, MA'AM. IT'S £44 A DAY.

THAT'S IT. WHAT TYPE OF SAFETY MECHANISMS DO YOU HAVE ON THE LOCKING MAGAZINE? SO REQUIRED BY ATF REQUIRES TWO LOCKS.

THOSE LOCKS ARE BASICALLY PICKED PROOF, DRILL PROOF.

THEY'RE EXTREMELY HIGH END LOCKS THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE ATF IS ALSO WE HAVE THE FULL PROPERTY TO BE FENCED IN AND SECURED SECURITY CAMERAS THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTIES COMPLETELY

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LIT, 24 HOUR SECURITY CAMERAS, 24 HOUR SECURITY ONSITE.

SO LIKE I SAID, SECURITY TO ME IS PARAMOUNT.

WHAT KIND OF TRAINING DO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH OR RENEWAL TRAINING OR ANY KIND OF EDUCATION? SO IT'S ANNUAL TRAINING? YES, MA'AM. SO YOU ARE CERTIFIED IN MANUFACTURING A FIVE? YES, MA'AM. THAT'S CORRECT.

YOU ARE RECERTIFIED ANNUALLY.

ANNUALLY? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT.

SO AND THE ATF DOES ATF DOES THAT WALK FOR CHOOSING INDIAN? THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN.

WE NEED TAXPAYERS HERE AND WE NEED BUSINESS HERE.

I WANT TO POINT OUT I WANT TO POINT OUT SOMETHING HERE THAT SHE DIDN'T POINT OUT THAT THAT I FIND TO STAND OUT.

THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THIS TO ME.

I HAD NOT SEEN THIS.

IT SAYS THAT YOU ARE YOU LOCK THE PLACE DOWN.

NOBODY'S ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY AT ALL.

FIRE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES.

EMPLOYEES ARE SCREENED.

YES, MA'AM. THAT IS. EMPLOYEES ARE TRAINED.

YES, MA'AM. EMPLOYEES ARE CONSTANTLY UPDATED ON SAFETY PROCEDURES.

YES, MA'AM. OK, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TO INDIAN TOWN.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

THANK YOU. HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

MEMBER WATSON.

YEAH. JUST FOR THE EDIFICATION OF THE BOARD.

AND ONCE AGAIN, I VISITED THEIR FACILITY IN STUART, AND I MUST SAY THEY TOOK THE OLD YMCA BUILDING AND THE WORKMANSHIP AND THE QUALITY AND THE SECURITY THERE IS IMPECCABLE. I MEAN, IMPECCABLE.

I WAS IMPRESSED WITH EVERY THING THAT I SAW THERE.

SO IF THAT'S A REFLECTION OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO OUT HERE, AND I BELIEVE THAT IT IS, I'M ALL IN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, SIR. I GOT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

OKAY. GO AHEAD. HELLO, SIR.

JUST TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR FACILITY IN IN STUART, JUST FOR I'VE NEVER BEEN TO IT OR.

YEAH. SO OUR FACILITY IN STUART IS ASSEMBLY MANUFACTURING OF THE CASES AND OF THE CUPS.

SO WE TAKE A RAW COPPER STRIP IN AND IT USES A HYDRAULIC PRESS AND IT PRESSES DOWN AND CREATES AND DRAWS OVER A DEEP PROCESS OVER 16 STATIONS.

IT CREATES THE CASE ITSELF.

AND THEN ON THE BULLET SIDE, WE MANUFACTURE, WE BASICALLY TAKE THE INSERT OF THE BULLET, IT GOES THROUGH A HEADER AND THAT HEADER CREATES AN INSIDE SHELL AND THEN IT'S JACKETED BY BRASS. ONCE THAT'S DONE, IT'S ALL WASHED.

ALL THAT WASHED IS CONTAINED ON SITE.

AGAIN, EVERYTHING IS CONTAINED ON SITE AND NOTHING IS LEAKED OUT.

NOTHING GOES BACK TO THE CITY.

ALL OF THAT IS DONE THROUGH AN EVAP UNIT AND THEN THAT IS PUMPED OUT BY A SPECIALIST.

THAT'S ALL CERTIFIED IN THAT.

AND WE'LL WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE ALL THAT.

AS FOR YOU. AND THEN THEY'RE ASSEMBLED, BASICALLY RUN THROUGH A ROTARY PRESS AND ASSEMBLED, AND THEN FROM THERE THEY'RE PACKAGED AND SHIPPED OUT FROM THERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. WISE, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.

OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

YOU SAID THERE'S 30 PEOPLE A SHIFT.

HOW MANY SHIFTS WILL YOU HAVE? IT WILL BE AT FULL CAPACITY.

THREE SHIFTS. THREE SHIFTS? WHAT TYPE OF BACKGROUND WOULD YOU DO YOUR EMPLOYEES FACE? YOU HAVE TO DO FULL FEDERAL BACKGROUND DUTY SINCE IT'S AN ATF AND IT'S A SECURE SITE.

SO IN THE EVENT THAT YOU APPROVE WITH THOSE, WHAT HOW WOULD YOU ADVERTISE HERE FOR MEMBERS OF INDIAN TOWN? WELL, I WOULD GET WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND GET WITH THEM AND DECIDE HOW WILL THE BEST WAY TO LOOK FOR LOCAL HELP? LOCAL HELP IS OBVIOUSLY THAT'S WHERE WE WANT.

OKAY. AND THEN THEY WOULD BE FULLY TRAINED WELL.

RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ABSOLUTELY. OK.

ARE THERE ANY ANY MORE QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBERS.

OKAY. WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? OKAY. WE HAVE CAROL MCALLISTER.

HELLO, MY NAME IS CAROL MCALLISTER.

THE THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THIS FACILITY BEING THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THIS.

WHAT EFFECT IS IT GOING TO HAVE ON THEM? PLUS, MY SISTER AND I ON ON PROPERTY ON SOUTH OF THE ROAD, ACROSS THE ROAD, WHICH WE HAVE CATTLE ON.

IS THERE ANY RUNOFF? WHAT ABOUT STORMWATER DRAINAGE? IS ALL THAT TAKEN CARE OF AND ALL THIS SITE APPROVAL? MR. WISE. YES, MA'AM.

I WOULD HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT ON ANY OF YOU BECAUSE I GREW UP ON THAT PROPERTY.

SO I KNOW HOW THE WATER FLOWS THERE.

WE OWN JUST JUST ACROSS THE ROAD FROM YOU.

YES, MA'AM. SO I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT RUNOFF INTO THAT POND THAT GOES DOWN INTO THE PASTURE AND NOT EVEN INTO THE GROUND.

THANK YOU. I REBUILT MY BED, SET IT DOWN WHEN THE LAND WAS BLOWN OFF.

OH, YOU'RE GOING TO BUY HER A NEW FENCE.

OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS? I REBUILT IT AND PAID FOR IT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING, MA'AM? THAT YOU WANT TO COME TO THE PODIUM?

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YOU OKAY? DID Y'ALL HEAR HER COMMENTS? Y'ALL NEED TO BUY HER FENCE, REIMBURSE HER.

OKAY. AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

OKAY. WE ASK MEMBER WATSON TO PLEASE RESTATE.

I THINK WE HAD A MOTION.

DO YOU WANT TO RESTATE YOUR MOTION? YES. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE THAT WE APPROVE THE WE APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A DEVELOPMENT ORDER THAT THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER IS IS ISSUED AND THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT PRIOR TO BUILDING THE ACTUAL BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE ITSELF TO WORK THROUGH THESE OTHER ISSUES, BECAUSE THIS APPLICANT HAS BEEN HELD UP FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW. I KNOW THEY HAVE EQUIPMENT SITTING IN CONTAINERS THAT NEED TO BE PUT IN PLACE AND START PRODUCING AMMUNITION.

MEMBER WATSON ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A MOTION? EXCUSE ME. YES, YES.

I'M SORRY. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT FOR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL, WITH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF DEVELOPMENT ORDER, THAT WE GO AHEAD AND ISSUE THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER. I SECOND THAT.

THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? I KNOW I AIN'T COMPLETELY OPPOSED IT.

OKAY. SO YOU RECALL.

CHAIR. PALMER NO VICE CHAIR.

SMILEY NO.

BOARD MEMBER. PRESSLER NO BOARD MEMBER ON.

BOARD MEMBER. WILLIAMS. NO. OH, SO WHAT? ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO.

WE'RE MOVING ON.

MATT. YES. YEAH.

MADAM CHAIR, ANOTHER MOTION WOULD BE IN ORDER AT THIS TIME TO CONSIDER SOMETHING ELSE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

OK WE WANT DOES.

YEAH. DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE OF THE BOARD HAVE ANOTHER MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AS IS SINCE WE'VE BEEN DENIED THE PREVIOUS MOTION.

I'LL SECOND. OKAY.

ROLL CALL. BOARD MEMBER PRESSLER.

NO. BOARD MEMBER SAYING YES.

BOARD MEMBER WILLIAMS. NO BOARD MEMBER.

I'M SORRY. VICE CHAIR MILEY.

NO. CHAIR PALMER? NO. THEY.

MAYBE WE SHOULD INFOSEC.

THE MOTION FAILED.

WILL YOU TAKE MY VOTE? WATSON? YES.

YOU WERE THE SECOND BOARD MEMBER.

I WAS THE SECOND. YOU AUTOMATICALLY.

OKAY. I GOT YOU. OKAY.

MADAM CHAIR. SO THIS IS JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC AND FOR THE BOARD.

THIS IS THIS IS ULTIMATELY A RECOMMENDATION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL.

HOWEVER, THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER.

SO THE APPLICANT IS ENTITLED TO A DECISION, NOT NECESSARILY A DECISION THEY WANT, BUT A DECISION.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT ANYONE WHO'S VOTED NO ON THESE MATTERS, YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME DISCUSSION DIRECTED TO WHAT THE CONCERNS WERE AND IF ULTIMATELY YOU WERE, YOU VOTED NO AND YOU ARE ULTIMATELY AGAINST THIS PROJECT THAT YOU WOULD STATE ON THE RECORD.

WE TALKED ABOUT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, THE EVIDENCE THAT YOU HAVE THAT THAT WOULD SUPPORT YOUR DETERMINATION, THAT YOU DON'T BELIEVE THIS PROJECT SHOULD BE APPROVED. ALL RIGHT.

YOU NEED TO REFERENCE WHAT IT IS ABOUT THIS PROJECT, WHAT EVIDENCE YOU HAVE HEARD THAT THAT LEADS YOU TO BELIEVE IT SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED. DISCUSS THAT AND THEN A MOTION DIRECTED IN THAT DIRECTION IF THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.

ALTERNATIVELY, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE VOTED NO BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME CONCERN ABOUT ONE THING OR ANOTHER, BUT WITH A CHANGE, YOU WOULD VOTE YES, I WOULD.

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I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU DISCUSS THAT AS WELL.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR FOR THE APPLICANT, PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO ASK.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I'LL START WITH VICE.

VICE MEILING.

AFTER REVIEWING THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED PRIOR TO OUR MEETING, I WAS ABLE TO LEARN SEVERAL DETAILS AND FACTS ABOUT THE MANUFACTURING OF THE AMMUNITION AND THE BENEFITS THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY HAVE IF THEY WERE TO COME TO TOWN.

HOWEVER, I PUT THE SAFETY OF THE MEMBER THE COMMUNITY FIRST, AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS COMMUNITY. I AM A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF INDIAN TOWN.

I HAVE GRANDPARENTS WHO WERE HERE SINCE.

THEY WERE CHILDREN.

AND I JUST IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT MY GRANDPARENTS ARE IN SUPPORT OF, AND NEITHER AM I.

THANK YOU. CHAIR.

VICE-CHAIR BOARD MEMBER PRESSLER.

ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS ZONING FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

I DON'T SEE THAT SOMETHING THAT HAS A BLAST EXHIBIT IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

THE APPLICANT HIMSELF IS QUOTED AS CALLING THIS DANGEROUS.

THAT IS THE WORD WAS USED.

SO I YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE HOW THIS FITS AS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

THANK YOU. LET ME SAY THIS TO THE AUDIENCE.

HOUSEKEEPING. WE'RE GOING TO RESPECT EVERYBODY'S OPINION.

EVERYBODY HAVE THE RIGHT TO THEIR OPINION.

YOU PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MAKING NEGATIVE COMMENTS TO THE BOARD.

TO OUR BOARD.

WE ASKED TO GIVE OUR OPINION.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

SO PLEASE, LET'S RESPECT ONE ANOTHER.

AND IF THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, I ASK YOU TO LEAVE.

THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBER WILLIAMS MY CONCERN IS THAT IT'S BEING CLOSE TO PROPERTY OWNERS.

AND MY SECOND CONCERN IS IT'S TOO CLOSE TO JO LEE DWELLINGS.

STEP. YEAH. POP SECTION ON YOUR RIGHT HAND SIDE OF WEST PALM ROAD.

AS YOU HEADED WEST.

OKAY. I VOTED NO.

AND I CONCUR WITH WHAT ALL THE OTHERS THAT VOTED NO, I THINK IS SOME FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I JUST REALLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS THIS IS THE COMMUNITY FOR IT.

THAT'S MY OPINION.

OK BOARD MEMBER ON CENTURY.

THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND HOW EACH OF YOU THAT HAS VOTED NO FEELS.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS PERSONALLY AND FOR THE LENGTH OF TIME YOU'VE LIVED HERE OR WHATEVER.

HOWEVER, WE WERE NOT CALLED UPON TO JUDGE THIS.

APPLICATION ON OUR FEELINGS.

THERE IS NO REASON.

THIS APPLICANT SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED.

NO FACTUAL REASON.

THESE EACH OF YOU HAS STATED YOUR FEELINGS.

THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT WHAT OUR ATTORNEY TOLD US WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

NONE OF YOU HAS GIVEN A FACTUAL PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT CAUSES US TO SAY, OH, WAIT A MINUTE, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

NOW. HE HAS THE MOST VALID OF OBJECTIONS IN THAT HE FEELS THAT IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT.

ATF AND OTHER.

PEOPLE WHO ARE CERTIFIED.

TO CONSIDER THE SAFETY OF THIS TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENT.

AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE SAYING AND HAVE GIVEN US DRAWINGS SHOWING BECAUSE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD ON HERE BEFORE THEY EVEN DID THE PRESENTATION WAS. WHAT'S THE MAGNITUDE OF THE BLAST ZONE? THAT QUESTION WAS FACTUALLY ANSWERED FOR ME.

HAD IT BEEN OUTSIDE OF THE CONTAINMENT AREA OF THEIR BUILDING, I WOULD HAVE BEEN VOTING NO ALONG WITH YOU.

HOWEVER. NONE OF THE EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT THIS IS A DANGER TO OUR COMMUNITY IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER.

IT COULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL BOOST TO OUR COMMUNITY WITH TAX REVENUE AND WITH JOBS WHICH WE DESPERATELY NEED.

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I'M SO SORRY THAT PEOPLE'S FAMILIES AREN'T GOING TO LIKE THAT.

INDIAN TOWN IS CHANGING, BUT IF WE DO NOT CHANGE, THE VILLAGE WILL NOT SURVIVE.

AND WE NEED JOBS, WE NEED BUSINESSES, WE NEED ORGANIZATIONS.

AND AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, THIS GENTLEMAN HERE HAS A RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN TO OPEN A BUSINESS AND TO RUN A BUSINESS.

AND YOUR FEELINGS DO NOT MATTER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

REMEMBER ON SAGER.

REMEMBER WATSON? WELL, I'D LIKE TO CARRY ON WITH MS..

ONSAGER SAID WE'RE NOT HERE TO.

TO WORRY ABOUT OUR FEELINGS. WE'RE HERE TO LOOK AT THE CODE AND HAVE.

HAS THIS APPLICANT MET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE? AND THEY HAVE. AND THEY HAVE.

AND THAT'S. I'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

I MAY NOT LIKE THE HOUSE THAT SOMEONE WAS GOING TO BUILD NEXT DOOR TO ME.

I DON'T GET TO SAY, OH, I DON'T WANT YOU TO BUILD A HOUSE BECAUSE YOU'RE LIVING NEXT DOOR TO ME, GUYS, AS MS..

UNZICKER POINTED OUT.

AND THE BLAST RADIUS IS WITHIN THEIR PROPERTY.

THE BLAST IS GOING TO GO UP, NOT OUT.

THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.

INDUSTRIES THAT EXIST IN THIS COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW THAT ARE PROBABLY MORE DANGEROUS THAN THIS THAT YOU DON'T EVEN REALIZE.

SO WITH THAT SAID, BUT LOOK, WE INCORPORATED INDIAN TOWN TO BRING JOBS AND PROSPERITY TO THIS COMMUNITY.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ONE OF THOSE INDUSTRIES TO ME IS A HOME RUN.

AND I WOULD JUST CAUTION EVERYBODY THAT IF WE START, AS SHE POINTED OUT, JUDGING THINGS BASED ON OUR FEELINGS, WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN A RABBIT HOLE, GUYS, BECAUSE PEOPLE DO HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND THEY WILL.

IF THEY'RE DENIED AND THEY'VE MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE AND THEY'VE INVESTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO IT, THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK.

THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH ATTORNEYS NEXT TO THEM.

AND WHEN THEY DO, THEY'RE GOING TO WIN.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MEMBER WATSON.

MEMBER PRESSLER MY OBJECTION WAS NOT BASED ON FEELINGS.

MY OBJECTION WAS BASED ON ZONING, AND I DON'T SEE THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

SO. I REALIZE NOT EVERY TYPE OF BUSINESS CAN BE LISTED, BUT I'M JUST GOING BY THE APPLICANT'S OWN DESCRIPTION OF THE OF THE OF WHAT THEY DO THERE.

AND I DON'T FEEL I DON'T SEE THAT THAT IS LIGHT FITS AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

THANK YOU. REMEMBER PRESSLER? YES. I'M SORRY.

AM I ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO THAT? I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A COMMENT FOR MEMBERS HAYEK, BUT YEAH, IT'S WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION TO OPEN IT BACK UP TO TWO MEMBERS OF THE APPLICANT.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE IT.

I'M SORRY, MEMBERS.

I SEE. YEAH, I'M JUST.

WHERE ARE THE APARTMENTS AND HOW FAR AWAY ARE THE APARTMENTS OR HOW CLOSE ARE THEY? YOU WON'T ANSWER THAT BASED ON THE.

OVER MILES. I JUST WASN'T I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THE THE APARTMENTS WERE, SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

THANK YOU. HI, I'M BRANDON ROTH.

I AM THE OWNER'S REP, THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNER AND BUILDER.

SO WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT, FIRST OF ALL, PRIOR TO THE CLIENT BUYING THE PROPERTY, WE GOT A LETTER STATING THAT THIS SITE WAS ACCEPTABLE FOR THIS USE. WE ALSO GOT A LETTER FROM THE ATF SAYING THAT THIS SITE WAS ACCEPTABLE AND ON THAT BASIS WE MOVED FORWARD.

SO AS FAR AS ZONING GOES, THAT'S ALREADY IN THE PAST.

IT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING AS FAR AS MEETING BUILDING REQUIREMENTS.

ATF IS MORE STRICT THAN YOUR BUILDING REQUIREMENTS.

I'VE MET WITH THE CHIEF AS FAR AS FIRE PREVENTION ON THE SITE.

I'VE TAKEN CARE OF THAT.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE HAVEN'T MET SO FAR FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL THAT THIS SHOULD BE DENIED FOR ANY REASON.

BUT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ANY EXAMPLE OF WHERE IT'S IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL? THAT WAS YOUR DETERMINATION? NOT WELL, I DON'T SEE IT.

I MEAN, THERE WHATEVER THERE IS ON THE LIST ARE NOT SOMETHING YOU WOULD CALL DANGEROUS.

WE HAVE A LETTER FROM THE BOARD.

WHAT BOARD? FROM THE ZONING BOARD. IT'S NOT US.

FROM US. I MEAN, FROM THE ZONING.

THIS IS THE FIRST WE'VE EVER THE THE LETTER WAS FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

THIS FROM? IT WAS FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.

OKAY. FROM WHOM? SORRY. IT WAS FROM.

IT'S FROM ALTHEA. IT WAS FROM.

FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

OKAY. WHICH IS WHICH IS A FORMAL PROCESS FOR ZONING VERIFICATION SET FORTH IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

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ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT WASN'T I DON'T THINK THAT WAS INCLUDED IN OUR PACKET.

IT IS IN THE BACK UP AISLE.

LET ME FIND THE PAGE NUMBER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I WILL. ONE SECOND AND I'M GOING TO OPEN IT BACK UP FOR ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

IF ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WANTS TO HAVE A COMMENT.

OH, I'M SORRY. DO YOU HAVE YOUR.

OH, YEAH. FILL OUT YOUR FORM.

IF ANYBODY IN THE IN THE IN THE PUBLIC HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE SOME LIGHT.

FILL OUT YOUR FORM AND TAKE IT OVER TO THE DESK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY. GO AHEAD, MEMBERS.

HI. YEAH, I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR THE GENTLEMAN HERE.

COULD YOU JUST HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS? MAYBE YOU COULD JUST TELL US IF YOU'VE HAD COMMUNICATIONS OR WHAT THEY'RE THEY'VE SAID TO YOU IN TERMS OF, WELL, THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT TO POST IT AND TO SEND LETTERS DIRECTLY TO THE NEIGHBORS.

WE WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEIGHBORS PER SE, AS FAR AS RESIDENCES IN ANY CLOSE PROXIMITY, BUT WE FOLLOWED WHATEVER THE BOARD REQUIREMENTS WERE.

THANK YOU. MEMBER ON SINGER I'D JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY WITH ALTHEA THAT YOU ARE THE ONES THAT DETERMINED THAT IT DID FIT INTO THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

BASED ON SOME OTHER RESEARCH THAT YOU DID.

IS THAT CORRECT? BASED ON WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE CODE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? YES. AND THAT IS PART OF YOUR JOB TO DO THAT FOR THIS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY. ARE WE READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? DONNA? CARMEN. OKAY, MISS CARMEN.

GOOD EVENING, DONNA. CARMEN.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE INDIAN TOWN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN REGARDING THE VILLAGE INCORPORATED SO THAT WE COULD GROW.

WE INCORPORATED SO THAT WE COULD ATTRACT INVESTMENT AND BUSINESSES TO THIS COMMUNITY TO BUILD IT UP.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT THE VOLATILITY OF SUCH A FACILITY, BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES, INCLUDING WATER PLANT STORES, VOLATILE CHEMICALS EVERY DAY, CHLORINE SALTS AND AMMONIA, THEY COULD EASILY CAUSE OR FEASIBLY CAUSE A SIMILAR REACTION IF ACCIDENTALLY HANDLED IMPROPERLY.

SO IT'S ALL BASED ON EXPERIENCE, KNOWLEDGE AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ABOUT IT BEING CLOSE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE ALL HAVE OUR CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT MIGHT MOVE NEXT DOOR TO US, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US.

ANY TIME THAT YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE MEETINGS, YOU ARE GOING TO BE FACED WITH THAT.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE COMMUNITY, NOT NOT NEGATIVELY, BUT THE POTENTIAL THAT A BUSINESS OF THIS SIZE, 30 EMPLOYEES PER SHIFT, THREE SHIFTS WOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT NOT ONLY ON THE TAX BASE, BUT TO THE RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY IN THE FUTURE OF OUR USE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WE HAVE ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS? JOHN GILBERT.

HELLO, MY NAME IS JOHN GILBERT.

I'M A BUSINESS OWNER OUT HERE.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE OUT HERE IS I TRIED TO START A BUSINESS IN REVERE BEACH, AND I'VE BEEN TO THE MEETINGS THAT WERE LIKE THIS.

AND WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO START A BUSINESS SOMEWHERE AND YOU'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE BOARD AND YOU'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING RIGHT, AND THE BOARD CAN SHUT DOWN A BUSINESS, IT'S IT'S HEARTBREAKING.

AND IT WAS ON THOSE FEELINGS.

WELL, YOU MAY NOT HIRE ENOUGH PEOPLE.

YOUR PLANTS MAY NOT BE IN THE RIGHT SPOT.

YOUR LAMPS HAVE TO BE THIS HIGH AND YOU'RE LOSING WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AS FAR AS GETTING PEOPLE BACK TO WORK.

THERE'S THIS EXPRESSION CALLED WORDS YOUR CHEAP ACTIONS, EVERYTHING I RECOMMEND.

I'VE DONE A TOUR OF THEIR FACILITY IN STUART.

AND IF YOU CAN LEAVE THERE.

AND WONDER WHY THEIR SECOND GUESSING GOING ON.

I SERIOUSLY QUESTION ANYBODY LOOKING AT ANY BUSINESS AND NOT LOOKING.

I LOOKED AT A FACILITY THAT WAS UNLIKE ANY OTHER FACILITY.

ONE OF THE LARGEST ARM MANUFACTURERS IN THE WORLD SAID IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST FACILITIES I'VE EVER SEEN.

SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE OWNER.

BUT IF YOU SEE WHAT HE'S GOT, THAT TELLS YOU EVERYTHING.

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BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO THE FACILITY AND YOU LOOK AROUND ALL AROUND, IT IS BALL FIELDS AND EVERYTHING WHERE THERE'S CHILDREN AROUND OR THERE'S PEOPLE PLAYING. MARTIN COUNTY PROVED IT.

WITH LITERALLY BALL FIELDS WITHIN 100 FEET.

WE'RE TALKING A RESIDENCES OF OVER A MILE AWAY AND 250 FEET AWAY FROM THE ROAD.

THAT'S TREMENDOUS AMOUNT.

AND IF WE LOOK AROUND THIS TOWN AND LOOK AT THINGS THAT COULD BE CLOSER, IT COULD BE A BIGGER HAZARD.

WE REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT THE BIGGEST THING BACK IS IF IF, IF IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AS THIS TOWN.

I DIDN'T GROW UP HERE, BUT I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT TEN YEARS MANUFACTURING ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND AND IT'S LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THAT WHEN I WENT TO GET REAPPROVED THEY WERE SAYING, WELL, MAYBE WE MAY CHANGE THAT.

I'VE ALREADY BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.

AND THEY THOUGHT, WELL, MAYBE WE'LL JUST CHANGE THAT.

AND I THOUGHT, I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO GO ON RECORD AS SAYING THAT BECAUSE WITH EVERYBODY WANTING TO GO ELECTRIC VEHICLES, WHY WOULD WE BE CHANGING THE ZONING OF THAT HERE WHERE THAT'S JOBS FOR HERE? SO I JUST WANT TO SAY FROM A BOARD THAT I'VE SEEN IT IN OTHER TOWNS WHERE A SMALL COMPANY WANTED TO COME IN AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR SO LONG, THEY DON'T WANT IT CHANGED.

AND I GET IT.

BUT WE'RE TALKING A 20 MILE PIECE OF REAL ESTATE THAT TRULY IS RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AND A MILE AWAY.

SO PLEASE KEEP THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALREADY ANOTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.

DAVID POWERS OKAY, MADAM CHAIR, WHILE HE'S APPROACHING THE PODIUM, THE LETTER IS FOUND ON PAGE 205 OF YOUR PACKET. MADAM CHAIR.

MEMBERS. MY NAME IS DAVID POWER.

SO THE RECORD, THIS WAS A 20 ACRE INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT SAT OUT THERE, PROBABLY APPROVED THROUGH MARTIN COUNTY FOR THE LAST 10 TO 12 YEARS. IT WAS CARVED UP INTO 12, TWO AND A HALF ACRE LOTS.

WE COULD HAVE HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT COMPANIES COME THROUGH THERE.

WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT WOULD HAVE COME THROUGH THERE.

THAT WAS A GREAT FAMILY FROM UP NORTH.

THEY WERE GOING TO RELOCATE THEIR STAIR BUSINESS DOWN HERE AND START MANUFACTURING THEIR STAIRCASES THROUGH COVID.

THEY COULDN'T MAKE IT, SO THEN THEY HAD TO PUT THE LAND UP FOR SALE.

REINHARD CAME IN AND LOOKING FOR A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND INDUSTRIAL SPACE.

THERE IS NO SMALL FOOTPRINT.

INDUSTRIAL. THIS 20 ACRE SITE IS PROBABLY THE SMALLEST ONE THAT WE HAVE.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS HUNDREDS OF ACRES TO.

SO WE DID THE RIGHT THING.

WE CAME IN, WE CAME INTO GROWTH MANAGEMENT TO TALK TO THEM, TO SAY, IS THIS AN APPROVED USE PRIOR TO CLOSING ON THE LAND, PRIOR TO EVEN ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT, IT WAS SAID, YES, YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

GIVE ME MORE INFORMATION, SHOW US THE BLAST, SHOW US ATF, SHOW US WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

THIS IS THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT THEY'RE SPENDING ON THEIR PROFESSIONAL FEES EVERY DAY AS THEY'RE GRINDING.

AND THIS WAS PROBABLY A YEAR AND A HALF AGO THAT THAT WAS THE LETTER SIGNED, I DON'T EVEN KNOW, YEARS, HALF A YEAR AND A HALF HAVE GONE BY NOW.

AND NOW WE'RE COMING TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S AN APPROVED USE.

THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS AND NOW WE CAN'T COME TO THE BUSINESSES ARE LOOKING TO COME TO INDIAN TOWN.

THEY'RE WATCHING THESE THINGS ON TV.

AND IF WE CAN'T MAKE THESE DECISIONS HERE, THEN LET'S JUST GO TO THE COUNTY, LET'S GO TO THE COUNCIL AND LET'S ASK THEM TO MAKE THE DECISION.

BUT IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP.

THERE'S BEEN NO PROOF. THEY'VE SHOWN EVERYTHING ENGINEERED OUT AND EVERYTHING.

AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. JOHN GILBERT, SENIOR.

MY NAME IS JOHN GILBERT.

AND LIKE MY SON AND I HAVE A BUSINESS HERE IN INDIANTOWN.

I WANT TO ADDRESS THE SAFETY OF WHAT THESE PEOPLE INTEND TO DO.

MARTIN COUNTY IS JUST FULL OF SHOOTERS, GUN ENTHUSIASTS, MANY OF THEM AS MYSELF, RELOAD OUR OWN AMMUNITION FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, MAINLY FOR PRICE.

I'M AN AMATEUR.

ALL THE REST OF THE RELOAD IS IN HERE.

I WOULD CONSIDER AMATEURS.

THESE PEOPLE ARE PROFESSIONALS.

WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

I SAW THE FACILITY.

THESE PEOPLE. THESE PEOPLE ARE ARTISTS.

THESE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT TO DO AND DO IT.

AND IF THEY TOOK ANY OF THE RELOADING OF THE PEOPLE IN MARTIN COUNTY FROM THE HOME AND PUT IT IN IN THEIR SECURE

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ENVIRONMENT.

IT'D BE DEFINITELY BENEFICIAL.

I REST MY CASE. HAVE YOU? ONE MORE QUESTION.

WHEN IS THE LAST TIME THERE WAS A FIRE OR EXPLOSION IN MARTIN COUNTY? PUTNAM COUNTY.

ULSTER COUNTY.

COUNTY. ORANGE COUNTY.

OF PEOPLE THAT WERE RELOADING THEIR OWN AMMUNITION IN THEIR HOUSE.

I REST MY CASE.

THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY.

OKAY. THIS WOULD BRING OUR OUR SEEING THAT WE HAVE NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT'S GOING TO BRING OUR PUBLIC COMMENT TO A CLOSE.

YOU WANT ME TO ENTERTAIN THE QUESTION? GO AHEAD. YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? OH, I'M SORRY, MR. WATSON.

I WOULD I WOULD JUST LIKE MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN CLARIFY THIS.

GUYS, THERE'S NO BULLETS OUT HERE.

GUYS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THEY'RE MAKING THE PRIMER.

WHICH IS WHAT? WHEN THE PIN HITS THE BULLET, THERE'S A CHEMICAL CALLED A PRIMER, AND THERE IT'S VERY SMALL.

AND THAT ACTIVATES AND BURNS THE GUNPOWDER.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING OUT HERE.

THERE'S NO BULLETS GOING TO BE FLYING ALL OVER THE PLACE SHOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN.

I JUST WANT TO CLEAR THAT FOR EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT IN THE AUDIENCE AND ON THIS BOARD.

THANK YOU, MR. WATSON. MRS..

HI. YEAH, I JUST, UM.

I'D JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT THE SOME OF THE PEOPLE SAID AGAIN, AND YOU'RE A NEIGHBOR AND YOU LIVE YOU HAVE A PROPERTY RELATIVELY CLOSE TO THIS.

SO YOUR MAIN ISSUE WITH IT WAS THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS NO OVERFLOW INTO YOUR WATER, BUT YOU DIDN'T.

IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU WERE OKAY WITH WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING.

OKAY. YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING ABOUT I GREW UP THERE.

I KNOW HOW THE WATER FLOWED FOR ALL THESE YEARS.

AND I HAVE A POND JUST ACROSS THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, THAT GOES INTO.

AND SO THAT'S THE THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.

I JUST THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A, YOU KNOW, A GOOD JUST THAT YOU'RE CLOSE TO IT.

AND I, I DIDN'T SEE TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE HAVE SOMETHING IN TERMS TO SAY AGAINST THE THE USE THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE.

SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS NOTEWORTHY.

AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE EXPLOSIVE EXCUSE ME, THE WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING OUT THERE, I THOUGHT IT WAS AN INTERESTING POINT THAT THE CHAMBER MADE THAT, YOU KNOW, FERTILIZER OR OTHER THINGS CAN BE SOME SORT OF EXPLOSIVE MATERIAL.

AND THERE'S NO.

FEDERAL REGULATION OF THOSE ITEMS. SO OBVIOUSLY, WHENEVER YOU SEE EXPLOSIVE, YOU HAVE CONCERN.

BUT IF THERE IS A REQUIREMENT IN THERE IN COMPLIANCE, I THINK THAT THAT'S A THAT'S YOU CAN'T YOU HAVE TO GET THOSE APPROVALS, OBVIOUSLY.

AND THEN. YOU KNOW, I WOULD BASICALLY JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, TO ENCOURAGE BUSINESS IS A GOOD THING.

AND IF SAFETY IS A CONCERN, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THE FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS THAT IF YOU HAVE A CONCERN, YOU KNOW, SAY WHAT THE CONCERN IS, BUT MAYBE THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE RATHER THAN AN OUTRIGHT REJECTION.

OKAY. AND THEN MORE COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.

SO WE MAKE A MOTION.

RIGHT. OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, BOARD MEMBERS, I NEED A MOTION.

I WOULD. I WOULD SUGGEST I'LL MAKE MY INITIAL MOTION AGAIN, AND HOPEFULLY WE GET THE PROPER SUPPORT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.

I SECOND THE MOTION.

ROLL CALL. COULD I CLARIFY OR HAVE THAT RESTATED, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN JUST SAY WHAT YOU WHAT YOU YOUR MOTION WAS BEFORE, THAT IT NOT CONTAIN ANY DIRECTIVE TO STAFF.

OKAY. ARE YOU TRYING TO MODIFY MY MOTION? WE'RE NOT DOING. HELLO? HELLO? WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS STAY RESPECTFUL.

MEMBER WATSON, WOULD YOU PLEASE RESTATE YOUR MOTION, PLEASE? AND JUST IF YOU WOULD, JUST CLARIFY FOR ME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY MOTION IS THAT WE APPROVE THE MAJOR SITE PLAN AND ISSUE A DEVELOPMENT ORDER AND INSTRUCT STAFF TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT PRIOR TO THE ACTUAL PERMIT FOR THE BUILDING TO RESOLVE THE OTHER OPEN ISSUES.

I SECOND THAT MOTION.

ROLL CALL. BOARD MEMBER PRESSLER.

NO. BOARD MEMBER HAYEK.

YES. BOARD MEMBER WILLIAMS. NO. BOARD MEMBER MYLEE.

NO BOARD MEMBER.

CHAIR PALMER.

YES. OKAY.

MOTION PASSES. SO THE MOTION? YES. MOTION PASS.

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MOTION PASSES. CORRECT.

OKAY. I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO THE BOARD AS WELL.

EXCUSE ME. I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING TO THE BOARD, AS WELL AS THE MEMBERS OF THE VILLAGE AND THOSE THAT WILL BE BUILDING.

WE ARE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT INDIAN TOWN.

WE ALL ARE. WE MAY NOT UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THINGS, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO LIVE IN INDIAN TOWN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT EACH OTHER. WHETHER WE AGREE OR DISAGREE.

SO IF WE CAN DO THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HARMONIOUS WHOLE.

ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S ALWAYS JUST REMEMBER, WE MAY NOT AGREE AND WE MAY AGREE, BUT IF WE CAN WORK TOGETHER, WE CAN WE CAN LEAVE INDIAN TOWN BETTER THAN WE FOUND IT. IS EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? YES. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM.

OK OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

THOSE THAT ARE LEAVING, CAN YOU PLEASE LEAVE QUIETLY SO WE CAN CONTINUE OUR MEETING? THANK YOU FOR COMING, MAN.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS APPLICATION NUMBER KSP, DASH 21, DASH 625.

[3. APPLICATION NO. SP-21-625: A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THE MAJOR SITE PLAN FOR RIVER OAK PROJECT, LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF S.W. FAMEL BOULEVARD, WEST OF FERNWOOD FORREST ROAD, NORTH OF THE ST. LUCIE CANAL AND SOUTH OF S.W. MARKET STREET. PARCEL APPROXIMATELY 55 ACRES IN SIZE.]

A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THE MAJOR SITE PLAN FOR RIVER OAK PROJECT, LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTHWEST FERNDALE BOULEVARD, WEST OF FERNWOOD FOREST ROAD, NORTH OF THE ST LUCIE CANAL AND SOUTH OF SOUTHWEST MARKET STREET PARCEL.

APPROXIMATELY 55 ACRES IN SIZE.

ALL RIGHT, STAFF.

MADAM CHAIR, I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO MY LITTLE SPEECH ONCE AGAIN FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE TAKING IT DOWN IN THE COURT.

REPORTER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, IF ANY INDIVIDUAL, INCLUDING THE APPLICANT AND THE INTERVENERS, STAFF, WITNESSES OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PLAN TO SPEAK OR OFFER TESTIMONY DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING IN THIS MATTER, I'D ASK YOU TO PLEASE RISE AND BE SWORN BY THE VILLAGE CLERK.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO.

YES, MA'AM. IS EVERYONE STANDING? PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

FOR A LONG NIGHT. AND BEFORE.

BEFORE I GO INTO MY LITTLE SPEECH ONE MORE TIME.

JUST A RECOMMENDATION FOR EVERYONE, BECAUSE THERE IS SOMEONE HERE TAKING IT DOWN A COURT REPORTER.