Jan 26, 2023 Regular Meeting

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GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO THIS VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN.

[CALL TO ORDER]

IF WE COULD HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

YES, MADAM MAYOR.

MAYOR GIBBS THOMAS HERE, VICE MAYOR STONE HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER DEPALO HERE.

AND LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ IS NOT HERE.

AND ON THAT NOTE, HAD THIS COUNCIL BEING NOTIFIED THAT THE ABSENCE OF COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ DO I HEAR A MOTION TO EXCUSE COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ THIS EVENING? MOTION.

MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY VICE MAYOR STONE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.

IS THERE ANY COMMENT? PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALL IN FAVOR? I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON A CALL TO ORDER HOUSEKEEPING.

LET'S DO A FEW HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS. YOUR CELL PHONES, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ON VIBRATE, THAT THEY ARE SILENCED.

WE HAVEN'T STARTED A COMMITTEE FOR THAT, BUT WE MAY ALSO YOUR EXITS ARE TO YOUR LEFT AND TO YOUR RIGHT.

THEY ARE NOTATED.

ALSO YOUR BATHROOMS OR TO THE LEFT OF YOU.

AND ALSO, AS THE FRONT OF OUR AGENDA STATES, CIVILITY IS PRACTICED AT ALL OF OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS.

THAT IS THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL.

THE INVOCATION THIS EVENING WILL BE ONCE AGAIN BROUGHT TO US BY PASTOR MIGUEL PASQUAL OF BIBLE TEACHERS INDIAN TOWN. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

THANK YOU, PASTOR MIKE.

NO PROBLEM. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

HALLELUJAH. FATHER, WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AND WE JUST TAKE THIS TIME OUT RIGHT NOW, FATHER, TO JUST GIVE YOU ALL THE THANKS AND THE GLORY.

FATHER AND LORD, WE JUST BRING THIS MEETING BEFORE YOU, LORD, AND WE ASK OUR LORD THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE.

GOD TO JUST GIVE GOD THE SET OF PEOPLE THAT YOU PLACE IN OFFICE.

GOD. THE GUIDANCE THAT THEY NEED.

FATHER GOD AND THE WISDOM, FATHER.

GOD IN ORDER TO HANDLE THINGS.

GOD THAT THEY COME ACROSS FATHER FROM EACH AND EVERY BODY.

FATHER, GOD, LORD, AS EVEN AS REQUESTS ARE BEING MADE BY CERTAIN PEOPLE, FATHER GOD, TO GIVE THEM THE PATIENCE AND JUST THE THINGS GOD THAT THEY NEED TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO FATHER, GOD AND LAW, WE JUST ASK, ARE THAT GOD THAT YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO UNITE THIS COMMUNITY TOGETHER? GOD UNIFY US, FATHER, GOD, LORD, LET US NOT BE DIVIDED, FATHER, GOD, LORD, BUT GOD LET US JUST CONTINUE TO BE UNIFIED FOR THE BETTER OF THIS COMMUNITY.

FATHER AND WE JUST CONTINUE TO BLESS YOU, LORD.

WE LIFT UP. EVEN ANGELINA RIGHT NOW, FATHER GOD, FOR WHAT SHE'S GOING THROUGH.

FATHER GOD, WE PRAY GOD THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN HER FATHER, GOD AND LORD, WHATEVER SHE NEEDS.

FATHER GOD, WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT SHE'S DOING, FATHER GOD, WHAT SHE'S GOING THROUGH.

GOD, WE ASK OUR LORD THAT YOU WOULD JUST GIVE HER WHAT SHE NEEDS.

IN JESUS NAME, WE PRAY.

AMEN. HEY, MAN, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

WE COME TO ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, PULLED ITEMS OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS.

[ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, PULLED ITEMS OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS]

STAFF WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM NUMBER SIX FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND PUT IT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.

AND MARY, YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU A SLIGHTLY REVISED VERSION OF THAT RESOLUTION THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED AT THAT TIME ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.

OKAY, SO NUMBER SIX, WE'RE PUTTING TO NUMBER.

WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT SIX.

YOU'LL BE THE FIRST THING ON REGULAR AGENDA.

OKAY. IS THAT.

IS THAT ALL WE HAVE? YES, MADAM. OKAY.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THAT THE MINUTES.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT IN THE LAST MEETING, CARMINE.

THREATENED SUSAN OWENS TO FIRE HER IF HE COULD.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT REFLECTS IN THE MINUTE.

I. YES, YOUR VOICE PLAYS AS A AS A PROCEDURAL MATTER THAT OUGHT TO BE ADDRESSED IN PULLING THAT FROM CONSENT AGENDA.

IN ADDITION, THE.

I NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE WORDING.

PRECISELY WHAT'S IN THE MINUTES AS IT IS.

CAN I RECOMMEND THAT THAT YOU CONSIDER PUTTING THAT ASK ON THAT WHEN YOU GET TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, YOU CAN PULL IT.

OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. OK.

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WE MOVE ON TO PROCLAMATIONS, AWARDS AND SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS.

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Proclaiming January 28, 2023, as E. Thelma Waters Day in the Village of Indiantown 

WE HAVE THE PROCLAMATION HERE.

WHEREAS ETHEL WATERS MOVED INTO INDIAN TOWN IN 1941 AND WAS THE SIGNATORY ON THE 2017 ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION FOR THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN.

AND. WHEREAS, ETHEL WATERS WAS A TIRELESS ADVOCATE FOR WOMEN, CHILDREN, MIGRANT LABORERS AND HER HOME TOWN OF INDIAN TOWN AND HAS A DECADES LONG RECORD OF CARING AND ADVOCATION FOR OTHERS IN THE INDIAN TOWN COMMUNITY.

AND. WHEREAS, ETHEL WATERS WAS A LEADING FORCE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS, SUITABLE MIGRANT WORKER HOUSING, MEDICAL CARE, EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, QUALITY DAY CARE, ACCESS TO A VOTING PRECINCT, POLITICAL REPRESENTATION AND HAS SERVED ON INDIAN TOWN.

NONPROFIT HOUSING BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

HOPE SCHOOL BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

INDIAN TOWNS NEIGHBORHOOD ADVISORY COUNCIL.

MARTIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, INDIAN TOWN TASK FORCE AND NUMEROUS OTHER COMMITTEES, BOARDS, BOARDS, TASK FORCES AND ORGANIZATIONS ACTIVE IN THE INDIAN TOWN COMMUNITY.

AND. WHEREAS, THE FLORIDA WOMEN'S HALL OF FAME HAS CREATED A FLORIDA STATUTE IN 1982 TO HONOR WOMEN WHO, THROUGH THEIR LIVES AND EFFORTS, MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE IMPROVEMENT OF LIFE OF FOUR WOMEN AND ALL FLORIDA CITIZENS.

THEY ARE PIONEERS WHO HAVE BROKEN DOWN BARRIERS, CREATED NEW OPPORTUNITIES, AND CHAMPIONED ISSUES TO BETTER FLORIDA AND ITS PEOPLE.

AND. WHEREAS, THE FLORIDA COMMISSION ON THE STATUTE STATUS OF WOMEN DETERMINED THAT ETHEL WATERS EXEMPLIFIES WOMEN'S CONTRIBUTIONS TO FLORIDA LIFE AND CHOSE HER AS ONE OF THE TOP TEN FINALISTS FOR THE 2021 FLORIDA WOMEN'S HALL OF FAME.

AND. WHEREAS, THE HONORABLE RON DESANTIS, GOVERNOR OF FLORIDA, CHOSE TO RECOGNIZE THE LIFE WORK OF THELMA WATERS BY SELECTING HER AS ONE OF THREE INDUCTEES TO THE FLORIDA WOMAN'S HALL OF FAME FOR 2020.

AND SHE WAS INDUCTED INTO THE HALL OF FAME ON JANUARY THE 28TH, 2021.

AND. WHEREAS, ON JANUARY THE 14TH, 2021, THE VILLAGE COUNCIL ADOPTED RESOLUTION DESIGNATING INTO PERPETUITY JANUARY THE 28TH AS E THELMA WATERS DAY IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN.

NOW, THEREFORE, I.

SUSAN GIBBS THOMAS, MAYOR OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JANUARY THE 28TH, 2023, AS THELMA WATERS DAY IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, FLORIDA, AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO JOIN ME AND THE VILLAGE COUNCIL IN RECOGNITION AND CELEBRATION OF HER WORK AND IN POSITIVE IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I KNOW THIS EVENING THAT WE HAVE HER DAUGHTER WITH US.

MISS PHYLLIS BROWN, IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND, DO YOU HAVE ANY WORDS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY? PRETTY WELL SAYS IT ALL, HUH? THAT WAS. THAT WAS IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. WE WOULD LIKE TO.

COULD WE GET A PICTURE OF YOU, PLEASE? TRYING. I'VE ALREADY.

YEAH, THAT'S. YEAH.

I WAS GOING TO DRINK ALL NIGHT.

WHAT? OKAY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY, NOW ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, INTRODUCTION OF OUR NEW EMPLOYEE UTILITY BILLING CLERK MARIA MENDOZA, WHO IS GOING TO DO THE

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Introduction of New Employee:

I CAN JUST.

MENDOZA SHE WANTED TO HAVE SAY A FEW WORDS, SO SHE'S NEW TO US AND OUR UTILITY BILLING OFFICE.

AND SO LIKE I SAID, GO AHEAD.

I'M GOING TO TURN OVER TO YOU.

WELCOME. PULL THE MICROPHONE DOWN, THOUGH.

GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE.

I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS TIME FOR THE INTRODUCTION FOR ME.

AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE VILLAGE FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO WORK FOR THE VILLAGE OF UNIONTOWN.

AND I AM FOREVER GRATEFUL BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE I GREW UP AND A LITTLE BIT OF MY BACKGROUND WORKED ETHIC.

I PRETTY MUCH MOVED MYSELF AROUND I WORKED FOR.

I WORKED AT ORFEO FOR NINE YEARS, AND I ALSO THANK THEM FOR HELPING ME TO BE ABLE TO GROW.

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AND AND HERE I AM.

I AM EAGER AND HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE VILLAGE THAT I ONCE GREW UP IN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

AND WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU'RE ABOARD.

I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU AGAIN EVERY DAY.

I KNOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARIA.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, OUR FIRE RESCUE QUARTERLY REPORT BY DISTRICT CHIEF SCHELL.

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Fire Rescue Quarterly Report by District Chief Shell

MARTIN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE REPRESENTATIVE JOSHUA SCHELL, SPEAKING TO YOUR MICROPHONE, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

DISTRICT CHIEF WITH MARTIN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE JOSHUA SCHELL.

I HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF SOME OF THE CALL NUMBERS I'LL SHARE WITH YOU.

MEDICAL CALLS. FOR THIS PAST QUARTER, WE HAD 124 MEDICAL CALLS.

FIRES. WE HAD 15, WHICH COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM FIRE IN THE WOODS.

CAR FIRES, HOUSE FIRES, CAR ACCIDENTS.

WE HAD 18 THIS QUARTER AND MOVE UP CENTRAL COVERAGES IS WHEN ALL THESE UNITS ARE OUT, WE'LL MOVE UNITS TO BACK UP AND BACKFILL HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE COVERAGE FOR INDIAN.

SO WE HAD 124 OF THOSE WHICH BROUGHT US TO RIGHT AROUND 300 CALLS FOR THE QUARTER.

ONE THING WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE WE STAYED ON TOP OF WAS NOTIFICATIONS.

I ACTUALLY BELIEVE I REACHED OUT TO YOU FOR THE CAR ACCIDENT THAT CAUGHT THE POWER LINES JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE AWARE OF THE ROAD CLOSURE AT THAT TIME.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO.

EXCUSE ME. THAT'S A CALL.

THAT ONE TO THE LIST.

FANTASTIC. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY COMMENTS? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH THAT WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

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Public Works/Utilities Department Quarterly Report

MR. NOLAN, WELCOME.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR.

SPORTS. PAT NOLAN.

FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS MY QUARTERLY REPORT.

PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES.

THE BIGGEST PROJECT PROJECT WE'VE GOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS BOOKER PARK, BUT IT IS ALMOST DONE.

WE'RE LITERALLY WEEKS AWAY FROM GETTING THAT PROJECT DONE.

SO FAR WHEN WE HAVE HAD A RAIN EVENTS, IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING THE WAY IT SHOULD.

SO WE'RE FINISHING UP ACTUALLY SOME WATER MAIN WORK THAT CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE BOOKER PARK PROJECT.

BUT LIKE I SAID, WE'RE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AWAY FROM HAVING IT FINISHED.

ANOTHER PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT WE'VE GOT GOING IS THE SEMINOLE DRIVE AND MAGNOLIA GENERATOR PROJECT.

WHAT THAT IS, IS WE'RE GOING TO BE IMPROVING THE DRAINAGE OVER IN SEMINOLE DRIVE.

THAT IS IN A DESIGN STAGE.

IT'S ALMOST FINISHED.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO HARDENING THE MAGNOLIA LIFT STATION.

WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING A GENERATOR SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE ISSUES OVER THERE.

WE'LL HAVE BACKUP POWER, BACKUP POWER ON SITE AND WE'LL BE HARDENED SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE STORMS OR WHATEVER, EMERGENCIES WILL BE MORE PREPARED.

THAT IS A $758,000 PROJECT THAT IS CDBG GRANT MONEY AND THE VILLAGE MATCH WAS 58,000.

SO THANKFULLY, WE'RE GETTING CDBG TO COVER THAT.

WHAT DOES. WHAT DOES.

C, D. B G DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT.

THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME.

DUE TO THE PROJECT OVER AT BOOKER PARK, IF YOU RECALL, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, I CAME TO YOU AND ASKED FOR FUNDING TO DO SOME DEFLECTIONS.

THAT'S WHAT THESE PICTURES DEPICT.

WE ACTUALLY HAD TO PUT WHAT WE CALL LINE STOPS INTO THE WATER MAINS AND STOP THE WATER BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE VALVES.

WE HAD NO WAY TO CONTROL THE WATER AND WE HAD TO MOVE THE MAINS TO GET THEM OUT OF THE WAY SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CONFLICT WITH THE DRAINAGE.

SO THAT'S WHAT THESE YOUR PICTURE ON YOUR LEFT IS AN ACTUAL LINE STOP WITH A VALVE THAT WE INSERTED SO THAT IN THE FUTURE IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN THAT WATER MAIN, WE CAN CONTROL THE WATER AND DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

THE CENTER PICTURE EXCUSE ME, THE CENTER PICTURES.

MAGNOLIA, WE OVER THERE DUE TO DEFLECTIONS.

WE HAVE CEMENT LINED ASBESTOS PIPE OVER THERE AND IT WAS MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO ACTUALLY LAY A NEW WATER MAIN THROUGHOUT MAGNOLIA FROM MARTIN LUTHER KING 269TH.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE TWO PICTURES ON THE LEFT ARE, IS THE ACTUAL WATER MAIN EXCUSE ME, GOING IN THE GROUND.

SO OVER THERE, WE JUST REPLACED 1200 FEET OF OLD WATER MAIN WITH BRAND NEW MAIN AND OF COURSE, VALVING, SO THAT WE CONTROL IT AND WE ALSO IMPROVE THE SERVICES TO OUR CUSTOMERS.

ITS NEXT SLIDE IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE WASTEWATER SIDE.

AS YOU KNOW, I'VE COME TO YOU SEVERAL TIMES ASKING FOR MONEY FOR EQUIPMENT.

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WE ARE DOING THE WORK IN HOUSE.

SO THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS A BACKUP PUMP THAT WE NEEDED AT ONE OF OUR LIFT STATIONS OR AT THE WASTEWATER PLANT CENTER IS A VAC JET OR TRAILER.

AS YOU RECALL, WE SPENT 13,000 IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, A FEW MONTHS BACK RENTING EQUIPMENT.

THAT'S WHAT THAT SHREDDER IS REPLACING, AS WELL AS THE BOOM TRUCK ON THE RIGHT.

THIS IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF.

NEAT THAT'S GOING ON.

THIS IS THE CHARTER SCHOOL.

IT'S A DEPICTION OF THE CHARTER SCHOOL ON THE RIGHT.

BUT IF YOU DRIVE BY ON CITRUS, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE BUILDING, THE WALLS ARE UP AND THESE CONCRETE STRUCTURES IN BLACK IS THE LIFT STATION FOR THAT SCHOOL.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE CONVEYING THEIR WASTEWATER TO US.

AND THAT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT.

UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

FANTASTIC. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? YES. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF, BECAUSE I ALWAYS SEE YOU GUYS WORKING AROUND TOWN AND, YOU KNOW, EFFICIENTLY TAKING CARE OF OUR STREETS OR OUR WATER SYSTEM.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, POTHOLES NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF, ESPECIALLY ESPECIALLY ON SHAWNEE STREET.

THEY I THINK THEY'RE GETTING BIGGER RIGHT NOW.

IT'S NOT THE RAINY SEASON, BUT WHEN RAINY SEASON COMES, WE DON'T WANT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE SUING US BECAUSE THEY'RE THERE.

THEY GOT DAMAGE IN THEIR CAR.

ABSOLUTELY. THAT IS A FUNCTION THAT WE DO WITH THE CONTRACTOR.

SO WE'RE KIND OF AT THE WILL OF THE CONTRACTOR.

I DID PLACE THE CALL.

WE WILL GET IT DONE.

BUT I'M ALSO LOOKING AT THE DRAINAGE OVER THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE IF YOU RECALL WHEN IT OCCURRED, WE HAD OH INCHES OF WATER ON SHAWNEE HOLLOW.

SO BEFORE RAINY SEASON.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS TO DO SOME DRAINAGE WORK OVER THERE SO THAT WE CAN GET THE WATER OFF THE STREETS, WHICH DOES DAMAGE THE STREETS, AND THEN WE'LL WORK ON THE POTHOLES AS WELL.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, AND ALSO THE OTHER QUESTION WAS, I KNOW ON MLK, THERE'S A CERTAIN PORTION OF THE STREET THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE.

THE PAVEMENT. WILL THAT BE PAVED SOON? ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH THE PROJECT, YES.

WE'RE NOT DONE ON MAGNOLIA YET.

IT GOES IN STEPS, SO WE PUT THE WATER MAIN IN, BUT THEN THEY HAD TO GO BACK AND DO THE DEFLECTIONS OR PUT THE DRAINAGE IN BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE DID THE WATER MAIN, BECAUSE WE HAD ISSUES IN THREE DIFFERENT SPOTS THERE.

THEN THEY'RE ALSO FIXING THE SIDEWALKS.

ONCE WE GET EVERYTHING COMPLETE AND BUTTONED UP, THEN WE PUT IN THE BLACKTOP DOWN.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE. WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU, MR. NOLAN.

MOVING ON. PUBLIC COMMENT NOW IS THE PORTION WHERE THE PUBLIC HAS 3 MINUTES TO COMMENT AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

[PUBLIC COMMENT (3 MINUTES EACH)]

MR. HAMBURGER, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, WE DO. MADAM MAYOR.

OKAY. FIRST PERSON, LINDA NICCUM, PLEASE.

WELCOME, MRS. NEWCOMB.

GOOD EVENING.

FOR THE RECORD, LINDA NICCUM.

I'M GOING BACK TO SOME OLD BUSINESS WHERE WE'VE AGAIN BEEN HEARING ABOUT THE THE TERRIBLE WEATHER INCIDENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH ALL THESE NEW SYSTEMS, FRONTS, WHATEVER, GOING THROUGH.

AND I'VE ASKED BEFORE IF IT COULD BE INVESTIGATED TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO HAVE A TORNADO SIREN PUT IN INDIAN TOWN, POSSIBLY CONTROLLED AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THE USUAL REMARKS I HEAR AGAINST IT, OUR EVERYBODY GETS THEIR ALERTS ON THEIR PHONES OR THEIR ALERTS ON THEIR COMPUTERS.

BUT I, FOR ONE, DON'T HAVE A CELL PHONE.

SO IF I WASN'T LOOKING AT THE SKY, I WOULDN'T KNOW.

I WOULD NOT BE GETTING THAT ALERT.

I THINK THAT A SIREN IS SOMETHING THAT BENEFITS EVERYBODY THAT IS IN TOWN, WHETHER WE'RE A RESIDENT, A WORKER, A VISITOR GOING THROUGH.

I GREW UP IN A TOWN OF LESS THAN 1000 PEOPLE, AND WE HAD A SIREN FOREVER.

IT WAS IT WAS A TOWN WIDE ALERT THAT THERE IS POSSIBLE DANGER COMING.

AND WE ALL KNEW THAT WE HAD TO TAKE A LOOK, FIND OUT WHAT IT WAS AND BE PREPARED.

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BUT AGAIN, I'VE BROUGHT IT UP BEFORE.

I HAVE NOT HEARD A RESPONSE.

AND I HAVE CONTACTED EOC AND THEY ALWAYS SAID THEY TOLD ME THAT THE REQUEST SHOULD ORIGINATE FROM THE VILLAGE IN ORDER TO SEE IF IT'S FEASIBLE OR IF IT'S NOT FEASIBLE, BE ABLE TO TELL US WHY.

SO AGAIN, I'M JUST ASKING THAT THAT IT BE PUT BACK ON SOMEBODY'S AGENDA TO LOOK AT AND AT LEAST BE ABLE TO GIVE ME GIVE ME GIVE ALL OF US SOME ANSWER AS TO WHY THAT'S IS OR IS NOT A POSSIBILITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT IS FROM PHYLLIS BROWN, PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS PHYLLIS BROWN.

FOR THE RECORD, I'M COMING TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE CLEANUP.

SECOND ANNUAL CLEANUP THAT WILL TAKE PLACE ON THE SATURDAY STARTING AT 7:00.

I UNDERSTAND 7:00 IS REALLY EARLY ON THE SATURDAY MORNING.

I GET THAT. THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE TO WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS TO HAVE THEIR TRUCKS BACK AND READY AND POSITION FOR MONDAY BY 12 NOON.

SO IF WE DON'T START INTO A DECENT HOUR LIKE 10:00 ON SATURDAY FOR ME IS DECENT.

BUT IF WE DO START AT A DECENT HOUR, WE DON'T GET ANY WORK DONE.

SO WE'RE STARTING AT 7 A.M..

WE'RE ENCOURAGING AND INVITING ANYONE TO PLEASE, PLEASE, ANYONE AND EVERYONE COME OUT, ENJOY IT WITH US.

PICK UP A LITTLE TRASH WHILE YOU GET A FEW SMILES ON WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T MET OR SEEN IN A MINUTE.

BUT WE SHOULD HAVE A GOOD TIME WITH THAT.

TODAY, WASTE MANAGEMENT CAME BY FOR AN EXTRA PICKUP, AN EARLY START WITH THE CLAW TRUCK TO PICK UP ANY LARGE ITEMS THAT YOU HAD OUT FRONT WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE EXTRA ROOM IN THE DUMPSTERS, WHICH WE DID NOT HAVE LAST YEAR.

SO WE SHOULD HAVE THAT DONE.

THAT WAS DONE TODAY.

TOMORROW, THE JAZZMOBILE WILL BE AT THE TAG OFFICE FROM 830 UNTIL 1130 AND THEY WILL BE IN WHAT IS IT? TRAILS TRAIL DRIVE.

IT'S THE VILLAGE PROPERTY ACROSS FROM SHELL.

THEY'LL BE THERE ON SATURDAY AS WELL.

SO ANY HAZARDOUS MATERIAL THAT YOU HAVE, PLEASE BRING IT UP AS WE RIDE THROUGH ON SATURDAY.

IF YOU HAVE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL, WE'LL PUT IT IN OUR TRUCKS AND TAKE IT TO THE HAZMAT MOBILE FOR YOU.

I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR A GREAT TURNOUT.

THAT THAT HAZARDOUS MATERIAL, DOES THAT INCLUDE TIRES? TIRES ARE NOT HAZARDOUS.

OKAY. SO THOSE UP TO DATE, WE'LL PUT WE'LL PUT IT IN THE DUMPSTERS AND THEY'LL TAKE IT OUT AND RECYCLE THOSE.

OKAY. SO SATURDAY, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SATURDAY THEY CAN GET THOSE AS WELL.

GOOD. THEY COULD HAVE DONE THAT TODAY, BUT WE'LL GET THOSE ON SATURDAY, TOO.

OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WOULD ANY COUNCIL MEMBER LIKE TO LEAD A GROUP? A ZONE? SUSAN, YOU TOLD ME THAT YOU WOULD.

YEAH. IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE TIME OR YOU'RE BUSY AT THAT MOMENT.

NO BIG DEAL. JUST LET ME KNOW, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU A NICE ZONE.

WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU.

CAME OUT AT ME. THE NEXT PUBLIC COMMENT IS FROM CAROLYN PARKER.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME. THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS CAROLYN PARKER FOR THE RECORD.

MY FIRST QUESTION IS, LAST YEAR IT WAS ON THE SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE AGENDA ABOUT THE REHABILITATION.

I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT YET.

MY SECOND STATEMENT IS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER.

I WAS BORN IN STOKE, BUT I WAS RAISED HERE.

OUR COMMUNITY IS FALLING APART.

IF THERE IS ANYTHING I AS ONE CAN DO TO HELP THIS COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER, Y'ALL, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

YOU KNOW HOW TO CONTACT ME.

EVERYBODY HERE? I'M QUITE SURE YOU DO.

BUT IT HURTS TO SEE OUR COMMUNITY DIVIDED LIKE IT IS.

IT'S SAD. IT'S REALLY SAD.

AND IT'S TAKEN A TOLL ON ME AS A PERSON BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE ALL MY LIFE.

AND LIKE I SAID, IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN DO, PLEASE CALL ME AND LET ME KNOW.

THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MR. HAMBURGER. IS THERE ANY OTHERS? NO MATTER, MAYOR. OKAY.

MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

[COMMENTS BY VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS]

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MR.. MR. PAULO. I DON'T HAVE A.

OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER.

HERNANDEZ. HELLO.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TO OUR COUNCIL MEETING.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A FEW THINGS ON OUR COMING AGENDAS.

IF THE INTERIM MANAGER CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN FEBRUARY.

I WOULD PREFERABLY LIKE THAT THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY.

ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE SECOND MEETING OF FEBRUARY THE WORKSHOP FOR THE SEEK OF VILLAGE MANAGER AND SO WE CAN START HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.

ADDITIONALLY TO THAT IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN AROUND OUR.

SHE'S NOW FORMER OUR FORMER VILLAGE CLERK IS NO LONGER WITH US AND LET ME JUST GO BACK WHAT HAPPENED LAST MEETING IT WAS NOT FAIR TO BE HUMILIATED IN FRONT.

OF WHOEVER SEES THESE VIDEOS AND THE PUBLIC.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU DON'T LIKE A CERTAIN PERSON, YOU TAKE IT UP PERSONALLY.

PEOPLE ARE HUMAN.

PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES.

THIS LADY CAME TO THIS VILLAGE WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE THINGS SET UP.

WHEN I TELL YOU THAT IT'S TAKEN A LONG PROCESS, THERE WAS NOTHING.

WE DIDN'T OWN ANYTHING WHEN WE FIRST STARTED.

AND MAYOR MAYOR GIBBS THOMAS CAN TELL YOU THAT.

AND SO DOES CAN.

VICE MAYOR STONE.

WHEN WE STARTED, WE ONLY HAD A DRAWER OF RECEIPTS.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN OWN.

YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO BE COMPARED TO THE CITY STORE, MARTIN COUNTY, THAT HAVE BEEN IN IN EXISTENCE FOR MANY YEARS. YES, OUR COMMUNITY, WHEN WE FIRST GOT ELECTED, OUR COMMUNITY SAID THEY WANTED US TO FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEY WANTED US.

THEY WANTED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT'S STILL THE CASE.

BUT WE HAD TO SET UP THIS GOVERNMENT FROM SCRATCH.

AND I TELL YOU FROM SCRATCH, NO DEPARTMENTS.

WE DIDN'T HAVE A FINANCE DEPARTMENT, WE DIDN'T HAVE A PARKS AND REC.

WE DIDN'T HAVE A BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

THESE PEOPLE CAME IN HERE AND HAD TO SET THINGS UP, PROCEDURES.

AND YOU CAN WHEN PEOPLE ARE SAYING IN CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SAYING THAT WE'VE NOT DONE ANYTHING, LOOK AT OUR WORK. WHEN I TELL YOU WE GOT PUSHBACK FOR BUYING THIS WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM, WHICH WAS THE BEST THING WE DID.

AND WE STILL DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND. WHERE WERE YOU? WHEN YOU SAY THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING, OUR STREETS TOTALLY LOOK DIFFERENT.

MOCK IF IT WEREN'T FOR FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER ANTHONY DOWLING FOR PUSHING AND CALLING PEOPLE BECAUSE WE HAD MISSED THE DEADLINE.

WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE SEEING THIS.

THIS WOULD HAVE DONE BEEN DONE PROBABLY IN TWO YEARS, BECAUSE IN GOVERNMENT, EVERYTHING'S EVERYTHING'S SLOW.

AND ESPECIALLY WITH COVID, WE GOT HIT WITH COVID.

IT WAS THE WORST TIME FOR COVID TO HIT WHEN WE HAD JUST STARTED.

WHEN YOU DIDN'T HAVE MONEY.

WE DID NOT HAVE MONEY WHEN WE FIRST STARTED.

SO WHEN PEOPLE KEEP ON SAYING THAT WE DID NOT DO ANYTHING IN THIS VILLAGE AND YOU HUMILIATE SOMEONE THAT HAS PUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF WORK IN THIS VILLAGE.

SHE WORKED HARD HOURS, WHEN I TELL YOU, HARD HOURS.

HARD HOURS.

AND IT'S REALLY UPSETTING BECAUSE I LOVE THIS VILLAGE.

I LOVE THIS TOWN.

I GREW UP HERE AND MY.

AND MY NIECES ARE GROWING UP HERE.

AND YES, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE UPSET WITH ME BECAUSE I'M CRYING.

BUT HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO GENERATE MORE EMPLOYEES TO COME TO THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN WHEN YOU'RE IF YOU'RE NOT LIKED BY A CERTAIN COUNCIL,

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WHEN PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEIR JOB RIGHT NOW IS ON THE LINE.

WHEN I TELL YOU I TAKE THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN SERIOUSLY, I TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.

YES. I PROBABLY MIGHT NOT GET ALONG WITH CERTAIN STAFF MEMBERS, WHATEVER.

BUT YOU PUT THAT ON ONE SIDE, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS THE WORK OF THE PEOPLE.

AND THAT LADY SAT THERE THROUGH THAT HUMILIATION SHE DID NOT DESERVE BECAUSE SHE WORKED HER ASS OFF TO.

SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THINGS WE DIDN'T HAVE PROTOCOLS IN THIS VILLAGE BEFORE THIS WHOLE THING.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE.

NOW, IF I CAN TAKE MY VOTE BACK FOR INCORPORATION, I WOULD TAKE IT BACK.

WHY? BECAUSE IT'S GOTTEN TOO POLITICAL.

WHEN WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER, WHAT HE ENDURED AND THE MENTAL HEALTH.

MENTAL HEALTH IS REAL.

THE BULLYING ONLINE, IT'S JUST CRAZY.

PEOPLE TELL ME ALL THE TIME WHEN I'M IN THE STREETS.

HOW DO YOU DO IT? AND I TELL THEM I PUT GOD FIRST.

GOD IS WITH ME.

YES. I COULD BE BASHED ALL THE TIME ON SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE MY NAME CLEARLY GOES ON ON A LOT OF THINGS.

BUT ONE THING I CAN TELL YOU IS I THANK GOD THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ME THROUGH THE PROCESS, BECAUSE WITHOUT THOSE PEOPLE, I WOULDN'T BE THE PERSON I AM TODAY.

STANDING UP FOR THE STAFF THAT DOES EVERYTHING WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THESE ARE OUR EMPLOYEES, BUT WE DON'T DICTATE THEM.

THE ONLY ONE THAT DOES IT IS THE VILLAGE MANAGER.

WE DON'T CONTROL EMPLOYEES.

SO, MR. ATTORNEY, CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU CLARIFY THAT WITH ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS? COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD NOT BE MEDDLING WITH PERSONAL OPERATIONS AND SHOULD BE ONLY TALKING TO THE MANAGER.

BECAUSE WHEN I TELL YOU I TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY, AND WHEN YOU'VE SAID THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN NOW WE HAVE NOT DONE ONE THING TO THIS DAY.

TELL ME WHAT, BECAUSE YOU CLEARLY RAN ON WATER ISSUE.

BUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE WATER ISSUE IF WE SAID IF WE WOULD HAVE IF WE WOULD HAVE NOT BOUGHT THAT WATER.

AND THIS STAFF.

THIS STAFF. I THINK EACH STAFF MEMBER AND I KNOW THE STAFF GOES AND LOOKS AT ALL THIS VIDEO.

I THINK EACH ONE OF THEM, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK HERE IN INDIAN TOWN, BUT YET THERE'S PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA SAYING THAT THERE'S THERE'S NOT WORK HERE.

OH, YOU WANT TO COME AND SIT DOWN AND SEE HOW THOSE THOSE PHONE CALLS RING? AND YOU SEE, MR. FLORIO, YOU CAN JUST TELL BY THE EXPRESSION OF HOW MUCH NUMBERS AND HOW MUCH DATA HE HAS TO YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S CRAZY.

YES, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS.

LEAVE THE FORMER PEOPLE AND LET'S CONTINUE OUR WORK, BECAUSE WHAT THIS VILLAGE IS, I DON'T WANT THIS VILLAGE TO BREAK DOWN.

AND I ACTUALLY HEARD THAT THIS WEEK.

THIS THIS VILLAGE WILL NOT SUCCEED.

AND I DON'T WANT IT TO NOT SUCCEED.

I WANT IT TO SUCCEED.

I WANT PEOPLE TO COME HERE AND WORK TO FEEL, OH, MY GOD, I WORK AT THE BEST PLACE IN IN MARTIN COUNTY.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE HOSTILITY, WHEN YOU HAVE.

PEOPLE ACCUSING YOU OF SOMETHING FOR A SIMPLE MISTAKE.

I'M HUMAN. I CAN TELL YOU I'VE DONE VARIOUS MISTAKES AT MY JOB.

BUT WE OWN UP TO IT.

BUT WHAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK WAS NOT EXCUSABLE.

THAT WAS NOT PROFESSIONAL.

SO HOPEFULLY.

WE CAN CONTINUE ON WITHOUT THIS BASHING.

FORMER MANAGERS, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS, FORMER STAFF.

YES, IT'S A NEW DAY IN INDIAN TOWN.

TRY TO CHANGE IT.

LET'S SEE IF IT'S EASY, BECAUSE IN GOVERNMENT, EVERYTHING'S SLOW.

BUT MY LAST THING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO THE STAFF.

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WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FIX OUR WATER.

WE WOULDN'T. WE WOULDN'T HAVE PEOPLE CHARGING YOU.

IMAGINE WITHOUT STAFF, PEOPLE WOULD BE KNOCKING, KNOCKING DOORS.

WE WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT COMING THROUGH BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A BUILDING, A BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

SO I THINK YOU.

VICE MAYOR STONE.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO TOUCH.

TOUCH ON. THE FIRST ONE IS MR. VOSE. WHAT'S A TYPICAL SITUATION WHEN YOU HIRE A NEW MANAGER? WOULD THE MANAGER REACH OUT TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR AGENDAS ARE? IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE THAT WHEN NEW MANAGERS COME IN, HEAR YOU SPEAK UP.

YEAH. I'M SORRY.

IS THAT COMING THROUGH NOW? LET'S TRY IT AGAIN.

IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE THAT WHEN NEW MANAGERS OR INTERIM MANAGERS COME IN, THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MANAGERS WOULD MEET THE DETAILS OF WHO REACHES OUT TO WHO AND SO ON, I THINK VERY IN INDIVIDUAL INSTANCES IT'S SOMETHING I WOULD I'VE GENERALLY SEEN THOUGH.

WELL, THE REASON WHY I ASK YOU THE QUESTION, I HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE NEW VILLAGE MANAGER SINCE SHE WAS HIRED.

AND I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THAT.

VERY. YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER JENKINS STAND UP HERE AND SAY SHE WAS THE BEST.

AND SHE HELPED THEM TO BECOME THE GREATEST.

AND TO IMAGINE THAT I'M ONE OF YOUR FIVE BOSSES AND YOU HAVE REACHED OUT TO SEE IF ANYTHING IS IMPORTANT TO ME. THAT'S VERY DISAPPOINTED.

WELL, I'M SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY.

I DID GET MY FINALLY GOT MY VILLAGE PHONE LATE LAST WEEK.

I DO HAVE AN OFFICE PHONE.

EXACTLY. SO THAT'S NOT AN EXCUSE.

LOOK, I'M SORRY.

I THOUGHT MOST INDIVIDUALS WOULD SEE THE CELL PHONE AND KNOW IT WAS ME AND THEN WOULD PICK IT UP RATHER THAN THE VILLAGE PHONE.

YOU HAVE AN OFFICE PHONE, SO THAT'S NOT EXCUSE.

WELL, I DID APPROACH YOU THIS EVENING AND ASKED YOU WHEN YOU WANTED TO MEET.

TOOK TWO WEEKS. NOT A GOOD EXCUSE.

ALL RIGHT. I'M SORRY.

AND THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.

WHY IS MISS SUSAN OWENS NOT SITTING OVER THERE IN THAT CHAIR? WELL, I THOUGHT I WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE COMMENTS.

AND DURING THOSE COMMENTS, I WOULD SAY THAT MS..

OWENS TUESDAY TENDERED HER RESIGNATION.

AND SO SHE WAS FORCED TO.

NO, SIR. I TALKED TO HER MONDAY AND SHE DIDN'T SEEM LIKE SHE WAS READY TO RESIGN.

WELL, SHE WAS SICK ON MONDAY.

AND WHEN SHE CAME IN ON TUESDAY, SHE DID.

AND SO I REACHED OUT TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND ASKED THEM IF THEY WOULD STEP IN AND HELP US.

SPOKE WITH MR. JONES. I WANT TO CALL YOU HERSHBERGER, BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT RIGHT BECAUSE I HAD A HERSHBERGER HAMBURGER MAN TO SEE, MAKE SURE THAT THE AGENDA COULD GET DONE AND WENT FROM THERE.

SO ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS, IS THIS GOING TO BE A REGULAR PRACTICE WHERE EVERY TWO WEEKS WE COME IN HERE AND SOMEBODY ELSE HAS RESIGNED OR FIRED, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING.

THOSE ARE PERSONAL DECISIONS.

IT'S NOT UNUSUAL WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANGE IN YOUR COMMISSION OR YOUR COUNSEL FOR THOSE MEMBERS.

IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR EMPLOYEES TO DECIDE THAT POSSIBLY THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN THAT ORGANIZATION.

IT'S NOT UNUSUAL WHEN YOU HAVE A NEW MANAGER OR ADMINISTRATOR BECAUSE THEY LOOK AT THINGS, THEY STEP BACK, THEY MAKE ASSESSMENTS, AND THEN THEY MAKE CHANGES AS NECESSARY.

AND INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION OF WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO BE PART OF THE TEAM OR THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THE WAY THE TEAM LOOKS. SO YOU DO UNDERSTAND THIS IS A TEMPORARY POSITION FOR YOU, RIGHT? I DO. SO ARE YOU GOING TO TRY TO FIRE EVERYBODY BEFORE YOU LEAVE? THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE. I'M SORRY.

IT'S NOT. IT IS WHAT I'M SEEING.

AS THE MANAGER, I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO HIRE AND FIRE INDIVIDUALS, PERIOD.

[00:40:01]

THANK YOU. YOU'D LIKE TO COMMENT.

SO. SO I'M ACTUALLY NOT DONE YET.

OKAY. SO COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ BROUGHT UP THE NEW MANAGER POSITION AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ON THE NEXT AGENDA AS FAR AS HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED.

AND WE NEED TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION AS HOW ARE WE GOING TO PROCEED? CAN WE MAKE THE DEADLINE FOR THAT? I GUESS. I MEAN, WHAT ARE YOU.

WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR FROM US? WE NEED TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED AS FAR AS HIRING A NEW MANAGER.

I DON'T KNOW. MANAGER IF THERE WAS A DECISION AS FAR AS WHAT THE PROCESS WAS GOING TO BE.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED TO TALK ABOUT.

SO. SO I WOULD THINK, CAN WE PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA? ABSOLUTELY. BUT, BUT I THINK THAT PROCESS HAS TO BE WORKED OUT.

SO WE NEED TO HAVE BOTH.

DARREN, IF I COULD NOT, I THINK YOU CAN PUT IT ON UNDER THE REGULAR AGENDA.

SO IT'S AN ACTION ITEM, SOMETHING THEY COULD TAKE ACTION ON.

OBVIOUSLY, WHAT ACTION THEY WOULD TAKE WOULD BE ACTION BY A MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL.

THEY COULD BY MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL DECIDE, YEP, WE'VE GOT OUR PROCESS FIGURED OUT.

LET'S GO ON THAT PROCESS TONIGHT.

OR THEY COULD NOT COME TO THAT DECISION.

BUT I THINK WHAT, WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER IS ASKING IS PUT IT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA AS AN ACTION ITEM SO THAT ACTION COULD BE TAKEN IF A MAJORITY WANTED TO DO THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.

WE'RE DONE. I'M DONE.

OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS.

COUNCIL MEMBER DEPAULO.

IT'S A TWO WAY STREET OUT THERE.

I HAVE SPOKEN TO MS..

CRYSTAL. I KNOW WHAT SHE'S BEEN DOING BECAUSE I CHOSE TO MAKE MYSELF INFORMED.

SHE'S ACTUALLY BEEN VERY BUSY.

SO FOR THE COUNCIL TO SIT HERE AND BLAME HER FOR NOT CALLING THEM, PRETTY SAD EXCUSE.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING, PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL.

SURE SHE WILL TELL YOU IN HER COMMENTS WHAT SHE'S BEEN DOING.

I'VE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT SETTING THIS PLACE UP FOR SUCCESS, THAT IT WAS NEVER SET UP FOR SUCCESS.

AND WE CAN ARGUE THAT ALL DAY LONG.

BUT I THINK TIME WILL TELL.

TIME WILL TELL THE STORY.

TIME WILL TELL. ALL THE STORIES.

I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE HER A CHANCE.

SHE'S DOING WHAT SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

AND IF WE COME IN HERE NEXT WEEK AND THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE GONE.

OH, WELL, SHE'S THE MANAGER.

SHE'S RUN GOVERNMENT BEFORE.

SHE KNOWS WHAT TO LOOK FOR.

THAT'S WHY SHE'S HERE.

SHE KNOWS WHAT TO DO.

SO MAYBE INSTEAD OF.

MAKING EXCUSES.

YOU PICK UP THE PHONE AND YOU CALL THE VILLAGE MANAGER AND YOU ASK HER.

SHE'S BEEN AVAILABLE TO ME WHENEVER I WANTED HER.

AS MR. ROSS IS ALSO.

YES, WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM HERE.

PEOPLE AT WORK HERE DO A GREAT JOB.

CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE.

CHANGES WILL ALWAYS BE MADE.

IF YOU'VE EVER WORKED FOR A BIG COMPANY, YOU KNOW THAT CHANGES MADE.

THEY MADE EVERY DAY.

TWO YEARS FROM NOW, THIS COUNCIL LOOK DIFFERENT.

FOUR YEARS FROM NOW, IT MAY LOOK DIFFERENT AGAIN.

THINGS CHANGE.

IT'S FOR BRINGING THIS COMMUNITY TOGETHER.

I'LL TELL YOU, I WORKED IN IT FOR 30 YEARS AND I'VE NEVER SEEN IT.

THERE'S ALWAYS ONE COMMUNITY.

IT'S ALWAYS ONE WE EVERYBODY LOOKED OUT FOR EACH OTHER.

I THINK DEEP DOWN TIME WILL ALSO HEAL THAT.

AND YES, WE CAN WORK ON IT.

WE NEED TO WORK ON IT. WE NEED TO WORK ON IT AS A COUNCIL.

[00:45:02]

BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DAMAGE DONE IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GET FIXED OVERNIGHT.

BUT STEP BY STEP, WE WILL GET THERE.

I BELIEVE THAT IN MY HEART, IN MY MIND.

AND I'M HERE BECAUSE I LOVE THIS COMMUNITY.

I CAME HERE ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO SITTING UNDER A TREE OUT THERE ON WARFIELD BOULEVARD AND SAID, WHERE AM I? HOW DID I GET HERE? INDIAN TOWN.

WELL, AS THE YEARS PASSED AND I GOT TO KNOW EACH INDIVIDUAL PERSON.

AND I DID. I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN ALL OF YOU THAT KNOW ME KNOW.

I TALKED TO EVERYBODY AND ANYBODY.

AND I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE TOWN.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M STILL HERE.

THAT'S WHY I'M DOING WHAT I'M DOING.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE.

IT'S BRIGHT. IT'S GOING TO BE BRIGHT.

YOU DON'T NEED TO BE.

LISTEN, TIME WILL HEAL EVERYTHING.

I BELIEVE THAT. I REALLY DO.

WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

CHANGE IS HARD. YOU KNOW, I GOT MY FIRST COMPUTER IN MY PATROL CAR.

IT TOLD ME I HAD TO HAVE IT, YOU KNOW? I DID WITH IT. I THREW IT ON THE FLOORBOARD.

BY THE TIME I RETIRED, I COULDN'T WORK WITHOUT THAT COMPUTER.

SO TIMES CHANGE, THINGS CHANGE.

WE'RE GOING TO GROW IN THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT.

THAT LET HER DO HER JOB.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING AND WHO'S JOINING US ONLINE.

APPRECIATE THE.

APPRECIATE YOU BEING WITH US AND CONTINUING ON TO.

I GUESS. WORK OUT WHAT WE NEED TO WORK OUT IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD.

OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ THIS EVENING.

I'M THANKFUL THAT SHE IS HOME.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO SATURDAY'S CLEANUP EFFORT.

ONCE AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE GREAT.

THIS YEAR WILL BE A LITTLE BIT WARMER.

NOT MUCH, BUT A LITTLE BIT WARMER.

THAT'LL HELP. AND I DO NOT WANT TO.

I DON'T WANT TO MAKE CONFUSION.

I DON'T WANT TO CREATE.

DECISIVENESS. BUT.

AND AN AGENDA ITEM FOR A FINAL DECISION ON THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, I THINK IS A LITTLE PREMATURE.

WHEN THE COUNCIL AGREED UPON HOLDING A WORKSHOP TO HAMMER OUT THAT FINAL DECISION AND COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ HAS ASKED FOR AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY TO SET THAT WORKSHOP. SO THAT'S HERNANDEZ.

MAYOR HENDERSON, THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY. UM.

SO. I THINK THAT'S KIND OF IT.

WE'RE GETTING TO AGENDA ITEMS ON THE SAME THING.

SO I GUESS IF IT'S ASKED, WE DO IT AND WE'LL WE'LL HAMMER IT OUT AT THE NEXT MEETING.

BUT THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

WE'RE MOVING ON TO COMMITTEE REPORTS.

[COMMITTEE REPORTS]

HERE IS THE CHAMBER, THEIR EXECUTIVE BOARD, AND THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD.

THEIR NEXT EVENT IS THE KIDS FISHING TOURNAMENT IN APRIL.

SO EVERYBODY LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.

AND I WILL SUBMIT THIS TO FOR RECORDS.

WE'RE MOVING ON TO COMMENTS BY OUR VILLAGE MANAGER, MS..

[COMMENTS BY VILLAGE MANAGER]

SO THEY DIDN'T THINK THAT I HAD BEEN FIRED BECAUSE THERE WAS CONCERN THAT THAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED.

AND THEN MONDAY WAS A HOLIDAY.

AND THEN DURING THIS PAST WEEK AND THE FEW DAYS LEFT IN THAT OTHER WEEK, I'VE.

I HAVE AN OPEN DOOR POLICY.

I'VE HAD EMPLOYEES COME.

THE DEPARTMENT HAS WANTED TO MEET.

THERE'S WAS A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE ORGANIZATION AND HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE MANAGED.

AND I HAVE TO ALLEVIATE THOSE CONCERNS.

[00:50:08]

I'VE GOT BEEN GOING THROUGH PERSONNEL FILES SO THAT I CAN SEE WHAT KIND OF A TEAM I HAVE.

I'VE BEEN ASKING QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET MYSELF ACCLIMATED INTO THIS OFFICE.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO COME IN WHEN YOU WHEN THERE'S NOT BEEN A MANAGER IN THE INTERIM.

MS.. OWENS, TO HER CREDIT, WAS TRYING TO WEAR WAY TOO MANY HATS TO TO BE ABLE TO GET HER TASKS ACCOMPLISHED, THAT SHE FELT COMFORTABLE AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO CATCH UP.

SO THERE'S THERE'S A LOT HERE.

I'M GOING TO BE BUSY FOR A WHILE.

AS LONG AS THE COUNCIL KEEPS ME HERE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM TALKING ABOUT REPLACING ME.

LAST TIME WE TALKED, WE WERE GOING TO DO A CONTRACT.

IF THE IF THE MEETINGS NEXT MONTH DON'T LOOK LIKE THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, THEN THAT'S FINE TOO.

SO I WANT MY RELATIONSHIP WITH MY COMMISSIONERS OUT OF THE COUNTY WAS DIFFERENT.

THEY WOULD MAKE REGULAR MEETINGS WITH ME.

THEY WOULD GET ON MY CALENDAR AND THEN THEY WOULD COME INTO THE OFFICE.

THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I'VE TALKED TO HAVE STOPPED IN TO TALK TO ME, AND I'VE MADE MYSELF AVAILABLE.

AND LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T GET MY VILLAGE PHONE UNTIL LAST WEEK.

I DIDN'T KNOW COMMUNICATING ON MY DESK PHONE WAS A PREFERENCE.

EVERYBODY ELSE IN HERE WANTS TO DO CELL PHONES, WHICH IS UNUSUAL FOR ME BECAUSE I DID NOT USE MY CELL PHONE, PARTICULARLY MY PERSONAL CELL PHONE FOR COUNTY BUSINESS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF POLICIES WE DON'T HAVE.

THERE'S A LOT OF PROCEDURES WE DON'T HAVE.

PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME QUESTIONS ABOUT VACATION TIME, SICK TIME, WHAT KIND OF SCHEDULE THEY CAN HAVE.

CAN THEY DO TEN DAY WORKWEEKS? I MEAN, IT'S JUST BEEN A CONTINUAL EMPLOYEES COMING IN WANTING TO DISCUSS AND GET TO KNOW ME A LITTLE BIT.

SO I'VE MADE MYSELF MORE AVAILABLE IN THE OFFICE AND I SHOULD HAVE IT SOUNDS LIKE SO.

WHERE I WORKED AT THE COUNTY AND THIS ISN'T THE COUNTY, AND I KNOW THAT, BUT THE COMMISSIONERS ALL HAD THEIR OWN OFFICES.

THEY ALL HAD THEIR OWN AIDES.

SO THERE WAS NEVER AN ISSUE WITH US HAVING CONTACT.

BUT THERE'S THERE'S A LOT TO DO HERE, I THINK, AND THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES HERE.

I MET MISS BROWN AT THE CIVIC CENTER TO TALK ABOUT THE CLEANUP SO THE COUNTY COULD THE COUNTY EXCUSE ME, THE CITY I WANT TO CALL YOU THE CITY.

I KNOW THE VILLAGE COULD GET PLUGGED IN.

WE'VE GOT STAFF THAT WERE WORKING.

WE MET WITH THE WASTE MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, SOLID WASTE TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE ON BOARD WITH US.

AND WE ALSO HAD WASTE MANAGEMENT AND SOLID WASTE COUNTY AND WASTE MANAGEMENT.

SO WE'RE ALL ON BOARD READY TO ROLL.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH BEEN THE CHALLENGES THAT I'VE HAD IN THE LAST ALMOST TWO WEEKS.

SO AND I MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY.

I'VE HAD RESIDENTS ALREADY POP IN.

I'VE HAD THEM CALL, I'VE HAD THEM WANT TO SET UP MEETINGS, AND THAT'S FINE.

I'LL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DO I HEAR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF AGENDA AS AMENDED?

[APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]

MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ.

AND CAN I CLARIFY, MAYOR? THAT WOULD BE. YES, PLEASE.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND ITEM NUMBER SIX TO BE MOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA TO REGULAR AGENDA.

NO, I THINK IT WAS POLL NUMBER SIX.

AND THEN WHEN CONSENT AGENDA CAME UP, WE WOULD TALK ABOUT IT.

CORRECT. MR. ATTORNEY? YEAH, ACTUALLY.

AM I ON? IT'S REALLY IT MUST BE MY VOICE.

I APOLOGIZE. IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE THAT THAT FIVE BE CATEGORIZED AS AS PULLED AND PUT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE ANY MODIFICATION.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND IT BE AS AS DARREN HAD STATED.

SO YES, AS MR. DARREN PULLED BOTH ITEMS. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HERMAN HAND IS THE SECOND

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ANY COUNCIL DISCUSSION, ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION? NO, MADAM MAYOR. ALL IN FAVOR? I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY SAYING HOW WE HAVE NOTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE WILL MOVE STRAIGHT TO THE REGULAR AGENDA, AND WE'LL CONTINUE ON WITH ITEM NUMBER 5 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF

[5.  

Minutes of the Regular Council Meeting of January 12, 2023

THAT WAS MOVED TO THE REGULAR AGENDA FOR.

YES. SO BASICALLY ITEM NUMBER FIVE, THE REGULAR MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GO BACK TO THAT RECORDED AND RECORDED AS IT WAS STATED AND EVERY PART OF THAT WHOLE BEAT DOWN, I'M GOING TO CALL IT WHEN MS..

SUSAN OWENS NEEDS TO BE ON THE RECORD IN THE MINUTES.

MR. VOS. MAYOR, LET ME JUST OFFER A THOUGHT.

I HAD DONE THINKING ON WHAT YOU HAD SAID PREVIOUSLY, AND I HAD THOUGHTS ON THAT.

TO TO, UH, THE REQUEST OR THE MOTION YOU JUST MADE THERE.

UM, WHILE GENERALLY DOING A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT, ESSENTIALLY OF A PIECE OF A PIECE OF A MEETING INTO THE MINUTES IS SOMETIMES AN EVEN HANDED WAY TO DEAL WITH IT IF YOU HAVE DISPUTES AS TO WHAT IT MEANS.

CAN I GIVE A PRACTICAL SUGGESTION? SURE. WHEN IT WHEN IT COMES TO SOMETHING THAT FOLKS HAVE GREAT CONCERN ABOUT, SOMETHING HAVING BEEN SAID ABOUT SOMEONE PUTTING THAT IN WRITING PUTS IT IN GOOGLE.

JUST. I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

THOSE ARE WORDS THAT WOULD BE TRANSCRIBED INTO TEXT THAT WOULD BE BEING SAID ABOUT SUSAN OWENS.

I JUST WANT YOU TO THINK THROUGH THE CONSEQUENCES OF OF THAT.

THAT WOULD GENERALLY BE THE TYPE OF THING I WOULD RECOMMEND AGAINST A DIRECT TRANSCRIPTION OF.

IF SOMETHING'S ON VIDEO, IT'S ON VIDEO, BUT IT'S TRANSCRIBED INTO TEXT.

IT'S GOING TO POP UP IN EVERY GOOGLE SEARCH FOR.

SO WELL. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PUT IT ON THERE THAT.

HE SAID IF HE HAD THE POWER TO FIRE HER, HE WOULD.

WITH REGARD TO THAT SENTENCE, WHICH I THINK GENERALLY THAT WAS ALONG THE LINES OF IT.

THE CONCERN I JUST STATED, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE THE SAME ONE, SO IT WOULD JUST WANT TO OFFER MY MY THOUGHTS ON THAT POINT FOR THE COUNCIL, MAKE A DECISION ON THAT.

SO IS YOUR MOTION THEN THAT IT WOULD BE ADDED TO ADD THAT SINGLE QUOTE FROM COUNCILMEMBER APOLLO'S.

YES. OKAY.

SO THAT WAS THE MOTION.

AND THERE WAS A MOTION. OH, I'LL SECOND THAT.

OKAY. SO A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY VICE MAYOR STONE, HAS BEEN SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ TO ADD ONE CLARIFYING SENTENCE.

IS THERE.

IN A. COUNCIL DISCUSSION.

AND SO YOU WANT TO DO WHAT WITH IT? THE MOTION IS TO ADD ONE SENTENCE, CLARIFYING SENTENCE INTO THE RECORD.

IT'S ON VIDEO, CORRECT.

OKAY. ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IT IN PRINT? OKAY. THE ONE THE ONE SENTENCE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC.

NO MATTER, MA'AM. OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR? YES. ANY OPPOSED? I.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT, RIGHT? OKAY. UM.

AND I VOTE. I VOTE.

I. SO IT PASSES 3 TO 1.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX RESOLUTION.

[6.  

RESOLUTION NO. XXX-2023:  A RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, ADDING INTERIM VILLAGE MANAGER TARYN KRYZDA AS A SIGNATORY ON THE VILLAGE’S SOUTHSTATE BANK ACCOUNTS; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE

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A RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL, THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, ADDING INTERIM VILLAGE MANAGER TARYN KRISHNA AS A SIGNATORY ON THE VILLAGE'S SOUTH STATE BANK ACCOUNTS.

REMOVING SUSAN OWENS AS A SIGNATORY ON THE VILLAGE'S SOUTH STATE BANK ACCOUNTS AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

JORDAN. YEAH.

YEAH. I WASN'T SURE WHERE I'D PICK UP.

YEAH. NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL.

MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS YOU ALL HAVE MANY TIMES BEFORE.

ANY TIME WE'RE CHANGING ANYONE WHO'S A SIGNATORY WITH OUR BANK, THEY REQUIRE IT IN THE FORM OF A RESOLUTION.

THIS RESOLUTION ACCOMPLISHES THAT.

AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

SECOND. MOTION HAS BEEN MADE A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY COUNCIL DISCUSSION? YES. I JUST WANTED I KNOW THAT USUALLY THE VILLAGE MANAGER, VILLAGE CLERK, THE MAYOR AND THE VICE MAYOR ON THERE, IS THERE? WOULD THERE BE A POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING LIKE A THE INTERIM VILLAGE CLERK, MEANWHILE, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT'S NECESSARY? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE.

YEAH. I MEAN, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYBODY RIGHT NOW DESIGNATE AS THE INTERIM VILLAGE CLERK.

WE'VE GOT THE CLERK OF COURT HERE, HER REPRESENTATIVE, CHRISTINA HUNTER.

AND ONCE I CAN GET WITH HER AND FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT SERVICES ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDED BY THE CLERK.

IS IT JUST THE AGENDA, THE MINUTES, ETC..

AS I STATED EARLIER, MS..

OWENS WAS ALSO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES DIRECTOR, SO I NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW THOSE DUTIES THAT SHE WAS DOING AND TOOK ON ARE GOING TO GET ACCOMPLISHED.

SO I.

WE'VE NOT DESIGNATED ANYBODY AS AN INTERIM CLERK.

YOU STILL HAVE, DARYN, AGAIN, AS THE YOUR TITLE IS DEPUTY, RIGHT? YEAH. YES. OKAY.

I KNOW IT MIGHT BE A QUESTION, A SIMPLE QUESTION, BUT THE CLERK DOES CLERK.

WHERE? LIKE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN HER? WHAT? WHERE DOES SHE CLERK AT WORK.

DOES SHE CLERK AT LIKE A MUNICIPAL LIKE.

HAS SHE HAS ANY EXPERIENCE IN MUNICIPAL WORKING? THE GOVERNMENT ENTITIES ARE SET UP DIFFERENTLY.

SOME MUNICIPALITIES HAVE A CLERK LIKE HOW YOU HAD A CLERK THAT'S HERE.

OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WILL UTILIZE THE COUNTY'S ELECTED OFFICIAL AS THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT AND CONTROLLER TO PERFORM THOSE DUTIES. MR. VOS AND MIND OUR CONVERSATION.

HE'S SEEN IT BOTH WAYS, SO HE UNDERSTANDS HOW THAT WORKS.

SO HER TRAINING, HER CERTIFICATION, ALL THE THINGS THAT MS..

HUNTER HAS BEEN DOING HAS BEEN UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT FOR MARTIN COUNTY.

OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFICATION JUST SO THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO QUESTION VICE MAYOR STONE.

SO I GUESS THIS IS NOT EXACTLY ON THE AGENDA ITEM, BUT NOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CLERK, DO WE HAVE A POSITION TO OPEN POSTED OR ARE WE PLANNING ON DOING THAT ONCE I HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASSESS THIS ORGANIZATION AND FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS WE NEED AND WHAT KIND OF QUALIFICATIONS WE NEED AND WHAT OTHER DUTIES THAT INDIVIDUAL IS DOING THAT NEED TO BE REASSIGNED? CAN WE SET A DEADLINE ON THAT? I DON'T BELIEVE I MEAN, AS THE VILLAGE MANAGER, I HAVE THAT PURVIEW AND THAT'S ON IN OUR ADOPTED PERSONNEL MANUAL.

IF THE IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO START GETTING INTO THE DAY AND DAY OPERATIONS.

OH, WE ALREADY DID SO WELL YOU SET YOURSELF UP FOR.

AND WAITING CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT LEGISLATIVE IMMUNITY.

AND SO THEN YOU COULD BE LIABLE, PERSONALLY LIABLE.

SO I PREFER NOT TO HAVE THAT.

I WOULD OFFER A DIFFERENT PART ON ON THAT PIECE.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I WOULDN'T WORRY SO MUCH ABOUT LIABILITY.

I THINK THE THING TO FOCUS ON MORE IS THE SEPARATION OF POWERS YOU HAVE IN YOUR CHARTER.

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SETTING DEADLINES ON DOING THAT MAY.

MAY RUN AFOUL OF THAT SEPARATION.

ASKING. ASKING ABOUT WHEN YOU PLAN TO DO IT.

AND I HATE TO SAY IT, ASKING ON A REGULAR BASIS, THEY CAN ASK, THAT'S FINE.

I DON'T CARE IF THEY ASK BECAUSE I'LL HAVE AN ANSWER.

BUT RIGHT NOW I DON'T.

I HAVE NOT I'VE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO REALLY GET MY ARMS AROUND IT.

AND THAT'S NOT THE ONLY AREA THAT WE HAVE TO TO WORRY ABOUT WHERE WE'VE GOT VACANCIES.

I GOT FINANCE PERSON THAT'S BEEN WEARING TEN HATS.

AND IS BEGGING FOR HELP.

AND THAT'S A VERY SERIOUS SPOT AS WELL.

OH, WE KNOW. SO I'M I WILL FILL THESE VACANCIES AS I CAN, AND THEY ARE DEEMED APPROPRIATE.

I REALLY WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS RELATIONSHIP, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE.

OH, NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BAD GOING ON.

I'M JUST SPEAKING THE TRUTH.

I'LL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE AS OFTEN AS YOU WANT, AND YOU CAN CHECK ON THE STATUS OF ALL THE POSITIONS AS MUCH AS YOU WANT.

IT HAS NOT BEEN POSTED YET.

I YOU KNOW HOW TO POST IT.

AND I GOT JENNIFER OVER HERE WHO WAS JUST MADE THE HR POSITION AND SHE'S STILL TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.

WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GO THROUGH THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING THERE FOR A FEW MONTHS THAT NEED TO GET DONE, THAT ARE ARE HAVE DEADLINES.

OH, I KNOW THAT STORIES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THIS SO WE CAN'T GET RID OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE ALREADY SHORT STAFF.

SIR, I TOLD YOU THAT SHE CHOSE TO RESIGN.

OKAY. ANY OTHER.

COUNCIL COMMENTS.

ANY. ANY PUBLIC.

ONE MOMENT.

ON THIS SIDE. WE NEED TO PRESS THE.

HELLO. BERNITA PRESSLER, A 25 YEAR RESIDENT.

I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION OF OUR INTERIM VILLAGE MANAGER.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF A LETTER OF APOLOGY COULD BE SENT TO SUSAN OWENS FOR THE PUBLIC ABUSE AND HUMILIATION SHE SUFFERED AND ASK HER IF SHE WOULD COME BACK. MS.. PRESSLER, I APPRECIATE THAT THAT WOULD BE MORE IN PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS HAS TO DO WITH SIGNATORY.

THAT'S WHAT THIS ITEM IS SIGNATORY ON THE BANK.

YOU'RE DISCUSSING WHETHER WHAT TO DO ABOUT NOT HAVING A VILLAGE CLERK WRITE THIS NOTE.

THIS ITEM IS ABOUT ADDING THE MOTION WAS MADE TO ADD A SIGNATORY AND TO TAKE THE ONE OFF.

ANYWAY, IF I COULD HAVE THAT QUESTION ANSWERED AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, THEN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER MOMENT ABOUT THIS.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY HERNANDEZ, SECOND BY STONE HALL.

IN FAVOR? YES.

PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, APPROVAL OF AGREEMENT FOR PLAN REVIEW SERVICES AND MISCELLANEOUS ENGINEERING ASSISTANCE WITH KIMLEY-HORN ASSOCIATES AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO

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Approval of Agreement for Plan Review Services and Miscellaneous Engineering Assistance with Kimley-Horn and Associates in an Amount Not to Exceed $60,000 Annually.  

MR. NOLAN, IS THAT YOU? THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL HAD KNOWN.

FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE IN NEED OF AN ENGINEERING CONSULTANT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR PLANNING ISSUES, AS WELL AS ENGINEERING AND WATER AND WASTEWATER.

I'M NOT SURE WHO HAS THE AGENDA ITEM.

DO YOU HAVE THAT THERE? WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? I'M SORRY, PAT. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA ITEM? I KNOW WE'RE DOING THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

THIS. THIS MEETING, ANYWAY.

I THINK POWERPOINT, PAT OR.

NO, NO, NO. ANYWAY, WE HAVE A NEED FOR AN ENGINEERING CONSULTANT.

WE HAD BOWMAN UNTIL ABOUT NOVEMBER.

BOWMAN DECIDED THAT IT WASN'T WORKING FOR THEM, SO THEY PULLED OUT.

DID SEARCH.

KIMLEY-HORN IS ALREADY DOING WORK FOR US.

MR. JENSEN, TOM JENSEN IS HERE.

HE IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE VILLAGE.

HE'S GOT A LOT OF BACKGROUND IN PLANNING.

AND I MIGHT ADD THAT WE'RE GOING TO SAVE $30,000 FROM THE LAST CONTRACT.

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YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION BEFORE I EVEN COULD ASK IT, IF IT WAS IF IT WAS THE SAME.

BUT APPARENTLY, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT'S A SAVINGS, SO THAT'S GOOD.

OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ.

YES. THANK YOU, MR. PATRICK. JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS IS TO REPORT.

MEANWHILE, IT'S LIKE A TEMPORARY FIX ON.

NO, THIS IS A PERMANENT FIX.

A PERMANENT FIX.

SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR PUBLIC WORKS ANYMORE.

WE WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR A PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU'VE HAD TOO MANY APPLICANTS.

THAT'S WHY I'M IN THE POSITION THAT I'M IN.

BEAUMONT, THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS DOING THE POSITION COULDN'T HANDLE IT.

SO THAT'S THAT ACTUALLY OCCURRED BACK IN JULY.

THAT'S WHEN I BECAME YOUR INTERIM PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

IT'S BECAUSE BEAUMONT COULDN'T HANDLE THAT POSITION ANYMORE.

PART OF IT WAS LOGISTICS.

HE WAS OVER AN HOUR AWAY.

I'M HERE EVERY DAY.

SO THAT'S HOW I ASSUMED THAT ROLE.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS EARLIER ABOUT MULTIPLE HATS.

I ALSO WEAR MULTIPLE HATS, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF NEED.

SOMEONE HAS TO DO THE JOB.

I HAPPEN TO BE HERE.

I HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE IN WATER AND WASTEWATER THAN I DO PUBLIC WORKS, BUT I DO HAVE PUBLIC WORKS EXPERIENCE.

BUT I'M HERE EVERY DAY.

SO THAT'S WHERE MR. JENSEN COMES IN.

THERE ARE ENGINEERING QUESTIONS THAT ARE NOT IN MY WHEELHOUSE, SO THAT'S ONE I'LL REFER TO HIM.

AND IT AS FAR AS THE PLANNING, WE NEED AN ENGINEER TO REFER TO REVIEW THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS AS THE DEVELOPER COMES TO THE VILLAGE.

BOWMAN WAS DOING THAT.

WE'VE ASKED KIMLEY-HORN TO DO THAT AND HONESTLY, THEY'RE SET UP A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN BOWMAN WAS.

SO I BELIEVE BECAUSE THEY'RE A BIGGER ORGANIZATION, THEY ARE.

THEY HAVE MORE RESOURCES.

AND MR. JENSEN HAS BEEN WORKING IN INDIA IN INDIAN TOWN FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.

SO HE'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, HE'S FAMILIAR WITH MARTIN COUNTY.

SO I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE RESOURCES THAN WE HAVE BEFORE, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO IT FOR 30,000 LESS PER YEAR.

OKAY. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, PUBLIC WORKS, WE WILL NOT BE POSTING ANY MORE PUBLIC WORKS.

THIS POSTED PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES DIRECTOR ARE BOTH POSTED.

OKAY. AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU HAVEN'T.

YOU'VE HAD A COUPLE OF CANDIDATES OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, BUT I HAVE MORE QUALIFICATIONS THAN THE CANDIDATES THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN FROM THE STREET.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M DOING THE JOB.

OKAY. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR STONE.

YES, MR. BOSS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT.

IF WE DO DECIDE TO APPROVE THIS CONTRACT, I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE CONTRACT IT'S CLEAR THAT OUR CONSULTANT OR ENGINEER IS NOT SUPPOSED TO DISCUSS BUSINESS, VILLAGE BUSINESS WITH.

PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE VILLAGE BECAUSE WE HAD A SITUATION WHERE TECH.

WHERE INFORMATION WAS BASICALLY GIVEN OUT WITHOUT EVEN THE VILLAGE MANAGER KNOWING ABOUT IT.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS VERY CLEAR SPELLED OUT.

THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DISCUSS WITH CONTRACTORS OR WHOEVER IT IS.

SO WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING FOR US NEED TO STAY IN THE VILLAGE.

NOW YOUR MIKES OFF IF YOU'D LIKE.

I COUNCIL MEMBER I, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I AND I UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN.

LET ME WORK ON THE BEST WAY TO IMPLEMENT THAT.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO MR. JENSEN. HE IS HERE.

YES. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK HIM THAT QUESTION.

SO. GOOD EVENING. I'M TOM.

GENTLEMAN KIMLEY-HORN. SO I'M.

LIKE PAT IS SAYING, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR QUITE A LONG TIME, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT COULD OCCUR IN A ROLE LIKE THIS.

I DO SIMILAR WORK FOR OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE WHERE MY ROLE IS.

MY ROLE IS WHEN I'M REVIEWING VILLAGE OF TOWN WORK.

THAT'S THE VILLAGE IN NEWTOWN WORK.

I DON'T SHARE THAT WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES OR OTHER DEVELOPERS.

THAT'S BASICALLY BETWEEN AND I AND MRS. JEFFERSON OR WHETHER I'M DOING PLAN REVIEWS.

OKAY. SO THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THIS UP, WE HAD A SITUATION WHERE CAB TECH GAVE OUT INFORMATION BEFORE EVEN THE VILLAGE KNEW ABOUT IT.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN.

NO, THAT'S EVERYTHING YOU HAVE IS PROPRIETARY, RIGHT? SO WHEN IF THERE'S A CASE LIKE I'M DOING WITH MR. NOLAN NOW ON A CASE WHERE SINCE I'M INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THINGS ALREADY WITH MR.

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MR. NOLAN. THANK YOU.

THEY MAY GET INFORMATION. THEY CAN'T GET IT FROM ME UNTIL I GO THROUGH.

MR. NOLAN, I'M NOT AN EMPLOYEE OF THE VILLAGE.

I'M BASICALLY A CONTRACTOR FOR YOU DOING PLAN REVIEWS AS YOU'RE AS YOU'RE BASICALLY ACTING VILLAGE ENGINEER.

SO IF ANYTHING HAS TO BE DISTRIBUTED, I HAVE TO GO TO MR. NOLAN. IT'S JUST APPROPRIATE TO SEND OUT OR NOT.

I DID SOMETHING JUST RECENTLY AS AN EXAMPLE, MR. NOLAN, I MET WITH A POTENTIAL DEVELOPER THAT WANTS TO BUY PROPERTY IN INDIAN TOWN.

SO HE UNDERSTANDS MY ROLE.

HE UNDERSTANDS MR. NOLAN'S ROLE.

HE DID REACH OUT TO ME BECAUSE WE WERE CURIOUS AS TO WHAT KIND OF WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT HE WANTED TO DO.

I DID A SOME QUICK CALC OF WHAT THE DEMANDS FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER WERE, AND I SHARED THAT WITH MR. NOLAN. AND THAT'S AS FAR AS IT'S GONE.

IT'S UP TO MR. NOLAN NOW TO BASICALLY GO TO THE NEXT STEP.

OR MRS. JEFFERSON. AS FAR AS FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, I JUST PROVIDE THE INFORMATION AND GIVE IT IN HOUSE HERE.

I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.

I HAVE SEEN THAT HAPPEN BEFORE, BUT I DO A LOT OF WORK LIKE THIS FOR OTHER CITIES, AND I KNOW MY ROLE.

I APPRECIATE THAT. NO PROBLEM.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, SIR? COUNCIL MEMBER.

YES. AND I JUST WANTED TO IF THIS IS LIKE THE REPLACEMENT OF BOWMAN.

I KNOW HE HAD THEY HAD, LIKE, CERTAIN HOURS, CERTAIN DAYS THEY WOULD COME.

WHAT'S THE SCHEDULE WITH KIMLEY-HORN NOW IN THAT REGARDS? IT'S NOT SET UP THAT WAY.

I'M HERE OFF AND ON, AS MR. NOLAN NEEDS ME IS NOT A ROUTINE THING.

IT'S BASICALLY WHEN YOU NEED ENGINEERING ASSESSMENT ASSISTANCE.

MR. JEFFERSON MAY NEED PLAN REVIEWS THAT ALL COME TO ME.

I DO MY REVIEWS.

I HOP ON CALLS. IF A MEETING IS NEEDED HERE, I'M HERE.

BUT IT'S NOT LIKE IT WAS BEFORE.

I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WAS WORKING FOR WITH BOWMAN, BUT UNLESS MR. NOLAN NEEDS THAT, BASICALLY I'M HERE PERIODICALLY ALREADY, JUST BECAUSE OF THE WORK I'M DOING OR I'M DOING PLAN REVIEWS, JUST NOT A ROUTINE THING WHERE I'M WORKING IN THE OFFICE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S NEEDED RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THE DIFFERENCE IN THE COST.

I THINK WE CAN SAVE MONEY BY UNTIL THERE'S A POINT IN TIME WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT MORE ACTIVITY TO THE POINT WHERE YOU MAY HAVE TO HIRE YOUR OWN VILLAGE ENGINEER.

WE BECAME MORE FEASIBLE, BUT I THINK I DON'T I DON'T SEE WHAT YOU HAVE GOING ON NOW.

I THINK IT'S WORKING FINE WITH MR. NOLAN AND MRS. JEFFERSON AS PART OF PLAN REVIEWS AND COORDINATION WITH OTHER DEVELOPERS AND OTHER CONSULTANTS.

SO IT'S LIKE I DID SEE ON THE CONTRACT THAT YOU HAVE LIKE A TIME FRAME TURN AROUND FOR PLAN REVIEWS.

I THINK. I THINK IT WAS LIKE.

TEN DAYS, SEVEN WORKING DAYS, SEVEN WORKING DAYS, OR IT'S BASICALLY HOW MRS. JEFFERSON HAS IN HER PLAN REVIEWS CERTAIN DRC THINGS ARE NEEDED LIKE THERE ARE.

SOMETIMES THERE'S A DEADLINE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET COMMENTS IN TO YOUR OTHER PLANNER SO THAT CAN GO TO THE DEVELOPER AND GO TO YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD OR OR DRC COMMITTEES THAT THAT UNDERSTANDS WHAT MRS. JEFFERSON AND MR. NOLAN.

SO WITH THIS CONTRACT WE WON'T HAVE THINGS LIKE SLOW DOWN AND THAT ASPECT BECAUSE I KNOW DEVELOPMENT HAS THEY REALLY NEED PLAN REVIEWS WHEN THEY'RE SUBMITTING THEIR PLAN REVIEWS AND EVERYTHING.

SO THIS WOULDN'T SLOW ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, LIKE LET'S JUST SAY TERRA LARGO.

NO, YOU CAN ASK MR. NOEL OR MRS. JEFFERSON. I MEAN, I TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, ALL, I'VE I'VE HAD BEEN DOING WORK HERE FOR A WHILE FOR YOU ALL, AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW.

AND I FELT THERE WAS A NEED WHEN WHEN, WHEN BOWMAN CONSULTING DEPARTED WAYS THINGS DIDN'T STOP.

MRS. JEFFERSON CAN ATTEST TO IT.

I'VE BEEN DOING THESE PLAN REVIEWS PROBABLY SINCE NOVEMBER.

RIGHT? WITH NO CONTRACT, I FEEL OBLIGATED TO CONTINUE BECAUSE THERE COULDN'T HAVE A GAP.

THERE WAS NO ONE REVIEWING PLAN.

SO I STEPPED IN AND BEEN DOING THAT.

SO THERE HAVE BEEN NO GAPS AND BASICALLY MAKING SURE DEVELOPERS ARE BASICALLY MEETING THEIR DEADLINES BY GETTING OUR REVIEW COMMENTS BACK.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT DEDICATION, WHICH I ALWAYS SAY OUR CONTRACTORS, SOMETIMES THEY GO OVER AND BEYOND AND WHAT WE EXPECT THEM.

SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR FILLING IN THROUGH WHEN WE HAD THAT GAP.

SURE. NO PROBLEM. OKAY.

DO I HEAR A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MOTION HAS BEEN MADE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND.

IS THERE ANY MORE COUNCIL? DISCUSSION. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? NO MATTER ME. OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL RIGHT. I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

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Approval of Cooperative Purchasing Agreement for Sand and Grit Removal Services at the Indiantown WWTP with U.S. Submergent in an Amount Not to Exceed $60,000

HELLO AGAIN. THIS ITEM IS SANDY REMOVAL.

IT'S PART OF A FUNCTION OF OPERATING A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

IN OUR COLLECTION SYSTEM, WE PICK UP SAND FROM THE COLLECTION SYSTEM, FROM SAND AND STREET INFILTRATION, WHAT HAVE YOU.

IT ENDS UP INTO THE WASTEWATER PLANT.

FDP HAS A PROGRAM WHERE THEY WILL GRANT US THE MONEY TO DO THE WORK BECAUSE IT'S AN IMPORTANT MAINTENANCE ISSUE IN WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS, AND THEY WANT OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS TO WORK PROPERLY.

SO THIS IS A $60,000 ASK, BUT WHATEVER THE COST OF IT IS, FTP IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE PAYING IT. WE'RE ALREADY NICOLE IS ALREADY WORKING ON THE GRANT PAPERWORK AS WE SPEAK.

WE DID THIS LAST YEAR RIGHT AFTER I GOT HERE.

IT COST US.

IT DIDN'T COST US.

IT COST FTP $62,000 TO REMOVE THE GRIT FROM THE WASTEWATER PLANT.

I PLAN ON DOING IT AS YEARLY MAINTENANCE, SO YOU'LL SEE ME HERE AGAIN IN ANOTHER YEAR ASKING YOU FOR PROBABLY, HOPEFULLY LESS MONEY BECAUSE AS WE DO IT MORE REGULARLY, WE WILL HAVE TO REMOVE LESS.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT ITEM IS ABOUT.

SO LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY.

SO THIS AMOUNT WE ARE SPENDING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GET REIMBURSED.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

AND THIS IS COMING OUT OF THE UTILITY FUND, CORRECT? YES. AND THEN WE'LL MR. FLORIO WILL PUT THE MONEY BACK WHEN WE RECEIVE THE GRANT MONEY.

AND HOPEFULLY THEY DO IT IN A TIMELY FASHION, BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

BUT LIKE I JUST STATED, NICOLE IS ALREADY ON THE ON THE JOB WORKING ON THE GRANT PAPERWORK.

SHE'S BEEN BACK AND FORTH WITH MFDP ALREADY.

WITH WHO? THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.

THANK YOU. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ.

I HAD IT. THE.

OH, THE GRANT.

IS THAT? CAN WE APPLY TO IT FOR EVERY YEAR? YES. IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT WE GET IT EVERY YEAR.

AS LONG AS WE HAVE A NEED AND WE PROVE THAT NEED, THEY WILL SUPPLY THE MONEY FOR THE GREAT REMOVAL BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT.

AND THIS PARTICULAR PLANT, BECAUSE OF ITS AGE, DOES NOT HAVE GREAT REMOVAL, AND REMOVAL WILL BE PART OF THE NEW PLANT.

SO WE SHOULD HAVE LESS PROBLEMS. BUT THE THING IS, WITH GRIT.

WHEN I GOT HERE A YEAR AGO, THE WASTEWATER PLANT WAS NOT WORKING PROPERLY.

A BIG PART OF THAT WAS THE AMOUNT OF GRIT THAT WAS IN THE PLANT BECAUSE IT HADN'T BEEN REMOVED IN OVER FIVE YEARS.

BECAUSE INDIANTOWN COMPANY WAS A FOR PROFIT COMPANY, THEY COULD NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS GRANT MONEY LIKE WE CAN.

SO IT MAKES SENSE TO TAKE CARE.

NUMBER ONE, WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

BUT FORTUNATELY, WE CAN GET THE FUNDING FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS WAS THE BEST IDEA.

BUT ADDITIONALLY TO THAT, THE GRIT AND THE WHAT IS IT? THE SAND, SAND AND GRIT DOES.

MEANWHILE, IT IS STORED IN A SYSTEM.

IT IS. THAT'S WHERE THAT JET OR VACUUM COMES IN THAT WE BOUGHT.

WHEN YOU HAVE BACKUPS.

MOST PEOPLE THINK ABOUT GREASE CAUSING A BACKUP, WHICH IT DOES.

BUT IN FLORIDA, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE OF THE MAKEUP OF THE SOIL THAT IT'S SANDY, IT GETS INTO THE COLLECTION SYSTEM EASILY AND THEN THAT CAUSES BACKUPS.

SO IT MAKES IT TO THE WASTEWATER PLANT.

BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT TO THE WASTEWATER PLANT.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE THAT GENERAC COMES IN.

WE'RE OUT ON THE STREETS REMOVING IT FROM THE COLLECTION SYSTEM AS WELL SO THAT WE DON'T GET SO MUCH TO THE PLANT IN TIME.

WE'LL HAVE MORE OF A PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.

FIRST, WE HAD TO GET THE EQUIPMENT THAT I NEED TO TRAIN THE GUYS ON IT, AND THEN WE NEED TIME BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING OUT OF THE COLLECTION SYSTEM AND AGAIN, REMOVING IT FROM THE PLANT AS WELL.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER. DO I HAVE? DO I HEAR A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? IS THERE ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS? ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSION? NO, MADAM MAYOR. ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL RIGHT. I PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU, MR. NOLAN. YOU'RE WELCOME.

APPRECIATE IT. I AM.

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Discussion of Implementation of Water and Wastewater Capital Connection Fee Adjustments

DISCUSSION OF IMPLEMENTATION OF WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPITAL CONNECTION.

FEE ADJUSTMENTS.

CAPITAL CONNECTION. FEE ADJUSTMENTS.

WE HAVE MR. TONY HAIRSTON FROM RALPH US TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU.

BUT IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, WHEN SOMEONE CONNECTS TO OUR SYSTEM, WE HAVE FEES.

UNFORTUNATELY, OUR FEES ARE VERY LOW.

THOSE FEES GO INTO A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FUND.

SO WE CAPTURE THESE FEES.

WE CAN USE THEM FOR INFRASTRUCTURE WORK DOWN THE ROAD.

BUT LIKE I JUST SAID, OUR FEES ARE VERY LOW.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE A DEVELOPER COME TO THE VILLAGE, THAT'S WHERE THESE FEES COME INTO PLAY.

SO GOING TO HAVE MR. HARRISON EXPLAIN IT TO YOU SO THAT WE CAN START THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE FEES IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, TONY HAIRSTON WITH THE REPTILES.

WE HAVE A BOTH A TECHNICAL REPORT IN YOUR AGENDA THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS, BUT ALSO A POWERPOINT.

AND WE'RE ABLE TO BRING THAT UP SO WE CAN FOLLOW ALONG.

SO THE POWERPOINT IS JUST HIGHLIGHTS OF THE TECHNICAL REPORT.

SO THERE'S PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING IN THE POWERPOINT IS IN THE TECHNICAL REPORT.

I'M HAPPY TO REFERENCE ANY AFTER OR DURING MY PRESENTATION.

FORWARD. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO AS AS MR. NOLAN SAID, THIS DISCUSSION IS ON CAPITAL CONNECTION FEES, WHICH PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND TALK ABOUT THE FEES.

I'VE GOT A COMPARISON AS WELL TO SHOW HOW IT COMPARES WITH OTHERS.

THE FIRST IS TERMINOLOGY.

THERE'S ABOUT A DOZEN, TWO DOZEN WAYS THESE FEES ARE CALLED.

IN FACT, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON WITHIN A MUNICIPALITY THAT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT REFERENCES FOR THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN.

THE TERMINOLOGY CAPITAL CONNECTION FEES ARE THE SAME AS WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY CHARGES.

SOMETIMES THEY'RE REFERRED TO AS IMPACT FEES.

ALTHOUGH WITH WATER AND WASTEWATER, WE'RE REALLY GETTING AWAY FROM TALKING ABOUT IMPACT FEES FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER.

AND THE REASON BEING IS THE STATE STATUTES HAVE BECOME MORE RESTRICTIVE ON THE USE OF IMPACT FEES.

BUT THERE'S A CARVE OUT FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER.

SO WE'RE WE'RE REFERRING TO THEM AS CAPITAL CONNECTION FEES, BUT THEY WORK SIMILAR TO IMPACT FEES AND WHAT THEY ARE.

SECOND BULLET POINT IS THERE ONE TIME FEE APPLY TO NEW GROWTH OR REDEVELOPMENT REQUIRING ADDITIONAL WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY.

SO THIS IS FOR YOUR NEW GROWTH.

AND THE IDEA, THE NEXT BULLET POINT IS THE PURPOSE IS GROWTH RELATED CAPITAL COSTS AND YOU DEVELOPMENT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST.

IN OTHER WORDS, YOU TAKE YOU'RE BASICALLY BUILDING A NEW WATER WASTEWATER PLANT AND THE CAPACITY THAT'S THERE FOR GROWTH, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE GROWTH PAY THEIR PROPORTIONAL SHARE. AND THE REASON WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT IS YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR RATEPAYERS, YOUR PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYING MONTHLY BILLS NOW, YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO PAY FOR GROWTH.

SO HAVING THESE FEES IN PLACE OR ONE TIME, YOUR ONE SHOT AT GETTING THEM IS WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT COMES IN THE DOOR.

ONCE THEY COME IN, THEY DO BECOME RATEPAYERS.

BUT YOU CAN'T GO BACK AND AND AND CAPTURE THE CONNECTION FEES.

NOR CAN YOU SET UP A WINDFALL EITHER.

YOU CAN'T MAKE THESE EVEN THOUGH WE ARE PROPOSING AND WE'RE SHOWING CALCULATING THESE FEES GOING UP SIGNIFICANTLY AND I'LL TALK IN ABOUT SOME PHASE IN OPTIONS YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T VIEW IT AS A WINDFALL THAT'S GOING TO FUND EVERYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT DEVELOPMENT SHOULD FUND.

SO IT'S PROPORTIONAL TO DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT OVER TIME THAT THE VILLAGE MAINTAIN THESE FEES CLOSE TO THE MAXIMUM IT CAN BECAUSE IT RELIEVES PRESSURE ON RATEPAYERS.

IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU WON'T NEED A RATE INCREASE IN THE FUTURE FOR YOUR RATEPAYERS.

BUT THIS IS NOT A RATE STUDY.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT YOUR MONTHLY RATEPAYERS, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT YOUR MONTHLY BILLS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPERS COMING IN THE DOOR, NEW CONNECTIONS, SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THE STUDY.

WE'VE WORKED WITH VILLAGE STAFF AND PATENT AND TEAM AND YOU'RE CONSULTING ENGINEERS ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND COST ESTIMATES.

WE WORKED SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF THAT AND I WILL SAY IT'S VERY COMPLICATED.

THERE'S A LIST IN THE BACK OF OUR REPORT OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND WHICH ONES ARE ALLOCATED TO GROWTH AND HOW THEY'RE ALLOCATED TO GROWTH.

SO THERE'S A LOT GOING ON THERE AND YOU'RE IN A PHASE OF RISING COSTS ON CAPITAL.

EVERYWHERE WE'RE LOOKING, THE COST OF THESE PLAN IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING UP SIGNIFICANTLY.

THOSE PROJECTS ARE ALLOCATED BETWEEN EXISTING GROWTH OR EXISTING USERS AND GROWTH.

IMPORTANTLY, BECAUSE THE DEVELOPERS WHO PAY A ONE TIME FEE, WHAT THEY WHAT IS NOT IN HERE IS THEY'RE PAYING FOR ANYTHING THAT THE DEVELOPERS REQUIRED TO PUT IN THEMSELVES.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S AN EXTENSION OF A LINE THAT THE DEVELOPERS WERE REQUIRED TO PUT IN, WE'RE NOT PUTTING THAT IN THE FEE BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULD BE CHARGING THEM TWICE.

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THE THINGS THAT ARE EXCLUDED ARE THINGS LIKE REPLACEMENT OF LINES THAT ALREADY BE USED BY EXISTING USERS.

UNLESS THERE'S AN INCREASE IN CAPACITY THAT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR GROWTH, WE DON'T INCLUDE REPLACEMENTS.

AND SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION AND THAT'S IN THE DETAILS OF THE REPORT IN THE BACK.

SO AS MR. NOLAN MENTIONED, YOUR EXISTING FEES ARE RELATIVELY LOW.

I'LL SHOW YOU A COMPARISON IN A MINUTE.

ON SLIDE FOUR, YOU SHOULD SEE YOUR EXISTING WATER AND WASTEWATER IS 1200 DOLLARS PER CONNECTION.

BASICALLY PER TYPICAL HOUSE, IT'S 1200 DOLLARS.

WHAT WE'VE FULLY CALCULATED WITH THE PROJECT COSTS ALLOCATED TO GROWTH IS $8,200.

SO THAT'S A 7000 INCREASE.

AND AGAIN, THAT WOULD APPLY TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

WE DO RECOMMEND A PHASE IN APPROACH.

AN ILLUSTRATION HERE IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE OVER FOUR YEARS.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU TOOK THAT 7000 INCREASE AND CHOPPED IT IN FOUR AND ADD IT EVERY YEAR, YOU'RE AT 1200.

NOW, LET'S SAY IN PRACTICALITY, BY TIME YOU HAD AN ORDINANCE AND TWO READINGS AND AND NOTICES AND ALL YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THOSE IMPLEMENTED BY JUNE, SAY, 2950.

COMBINED WATER AND WASTEWATER AND THEN SAY THE FOLLOWING JANUARY A YEAR FROM NOW, 4700, THE FOLLOWING JANUARY OF 2025, 6450, AND THE FOLLOWING JANUARY 8200, THAT WOULD BE A FOUR YEAR PHASE IN.

YOU COULD PHASE IN SOONER.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT PHASING IN SOONER.

I WAS IN A COMMUNITY IN CENTRAL FLORIDA LAST WEEK THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A FOUR YEAR AND BY THE TIME WE WERE DONE, THEY WERE READY TO DO IT IN TWO YEARS BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTOOD THE CHANCE TO GET THAT PROPORTIONAL FEE IS NOW.

AND ONCE THE DEVELOPMENT COMES, YOU CAN'T GET IT AT THAT POINT.

BUT JUST TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE, YES, CAN WE SEE A COMPARISON WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE CITIES THAT'S AROUND US? YEAH. SLIDE FIVE IS THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION THERE.

AND SO ON SLIDE FIVE, CURRENTLY THIS IS THIS IS RANKED THE COUNTY I BELIEVE IS IN YEAH.

IS IN THERE IN THE MIDDLE.

CURRENTLY INDIAN TOWNS AT THE BOTTOM AT 1200 AND THE ONLY ONE SIMILAR TO YOU IS OKEECHOBEE UTILITY AUTHORITY AND EVERYONE ELSE IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER.

EVEN THAT FIRST PHASE IN, YOU CAN SEE ULTIMATELY AT THE TOP YOU'D BE AT THE HIGHEST BUT BY TIME AT A FOUR YEAR SUGGESTED AGAIN, IT'S JUST A SUGGESTED FOUR YEAR PHASE IN YOU'D BE AT THE TOP.

BUT BY THAT TIME, A LOT OF THESE OTHERS ARE GOING TO BE MOVING UP AS WELL.

THE PHASE IN THAT I SUGGESTED, FOR EXAMPLE, IN JUNE, THAT FIRST PHASE WOULD BE 2950.

YOU'RE RIGHT, UNDER MARTIN COUNTY, THEY'RE AT 3810.

AND THEN THE FOLLOWING JANUARY, IF YOU DID THAT FOUR YEAR PHASE IN, YOU'RE AT 4700, WHICH IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.

AND THAT'S ABOUT THE TIME WE RECOMMEND YOU UPDATE THIS, BECAUSE THE CAPITAL PLAN WILL LOOK DIFFERENT IN ANY OUTSIDE FUNDING YOU GET AND SO FORTH, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BETTER IDEA. SO ONCE YOU'RE DONE, THE 8200 MAY CHANGE SOMEWHAT.

IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.

IT MAY BE ABOUT RIGHT. SO WE RECOMMEND ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH YOU REVIEW THIS TO RIGHTSIZE IT AND TO LOOK AT YOUR COSTS AND SO FORTH.

BUT RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE YOU'RE AT THE LOWEST FULLY, FULLY CALCULATE, YOU'RE AT THE HIGHEST, BUT YOU'RE REBUILDING PLANS.

YOU'RE BASICALLY REBUILDING YOUR BACKBONE OF YOUR SYSTEM, WHICH THESE FEES ARE INTENDED TO PAY FOR.

AND SO THERE'S DISCRETION ON IMPLEMENTING THESE FOR THE COUNCIL TO IMPLEMENT THESE SOMEWHERE UP TO THE MAXIMUM.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE RECOMMENDING A PHASED IN APPROACH JUST TO AND YOU MAY WANT TO GO A LITTLE QUICKER.

I WOULDN'T GO ANY SLOWER THAN FOUR YEARS.

YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT THREE YEARS OR EVEN TWO YEARS.

THREE YEARS WOULD GET YOU THERE A LITTLE BIT QUICKER.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT MUCH MORE REVENUE YOU HAVE IN TO DIRECTLY FUND THOSE PROJECTS FROM GROWTH.

AND I'LL STOP HERE BEFORE I SUMMARIZE ON THE COMPARISON, WHICH WOULD BE PRETTY STEEP.

I MEAN, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE AN INDIVIDUAL TRYING TO BUILD A HOUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE PRETTY STEEP.

UH. I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK MAYBE YOU SHOULD LOOK BACK ON THIS AND MAYBE COME UP SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, OR AT LEAST GO WHERE MARTIN COUNTY IS SOMEWHERE.

YOU KNOW, BUT RIGHT NOW, I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY HEAVY.

BUT YOU'RE TALKING A FOUR YEAR IMPLEMENTATION, TWO YEARS IN.

YOU HAVE NOT INCREASED IT TO THAT POINT.

AND IT IS A REVIEW PROCESS THEN TO SEE IF THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT, IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE ON, IF YOU WANT TO STAY THERE.

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STOP THERE.

NO WHERE YOU'RE ABOUT HEADING WITHOUT HAVING ADOPTED ANYTHING AND REQUIRE ADDITIONAL COUNCIL ACTION TO GET IT UP TO THE FULL 8200 TO I MEAN, MY OPINION, I WOULD SAY LET'S JOIN UP WITH MARTIN COUNTY AND REVISIT IT IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, $8,000 IF YOU'RE BUILDING A HOUSE, OF COURSE IT'S GOING TO END UP.

YOU KNOW, ADDING POSSIBLY 5%.

I KNOW THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT, BUT THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY IF YOU'RE A SINGLE PERSON TRYING TO BUILD A HOUSE.

I WILL SUBMIT JUST ON IF IF A HOUSE JUST TO PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, IF A HOUSE HAS TO BUILD A WELL AND A SEPTIC TANK, THERE'S A COST.

THERE IS WHEN IT'S NOT 1200 DOLLARS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S THERE'S THERE'S A COST TO HAVE WATER AND WASTEWATER, EVEN IF YOU'RE AN UNINCORPORATED AREA THAT DOESN'T HAVE THESE SERVICES AS WELL. SO JUST JUST PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE ON IT.

COST. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER HERNANDEZ, THANK YOU.

THIS IS DOES THIS APPLY TO EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS THAT KNOW THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, I HAVE A HOUSE HERE IN AN UPTOWN OR A PARK AND THEY ALREADY HAVE THE LINES THERE AND IT'S AN EMPTY LOT.

AND I WANT TO CONSTRUCT.

WHAT WOULD THAT APPLY? YES, WELL, YEAH, YEAH.

THE CAPITAL CONNECTION FOR THE PRIMARY USE CASE WOULD BE NEW DEVELOPMENT IN A NEW IN A NEW SUBDIVISION.

SAY, HOWEVER, IF WE HAVE AN EXISTING SUBDIVISION LOTS AND SO ON AND THERE IS AN EMPTY LOT AND YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A HOUSE ON IT, THESE CONNECTION FEES WOULD APPLY IN THAT INSTANCE AS WELL, BECAUSE IT'S A NEW CONNECTION.

BECAUSE IT'S A NEW CONNECTION.

THAT'S RIGHT. AND WHAT I MEAN, AS AS TONY MENTIONED, WHAT THIS FEE IS SUPPOSED TO BE OFFSETTING IS WE DON'T CALL THEM IMPACT FEES ANYMORE.

WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

BUT NEVERTHELESS, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OFFSETTING THE CAPITAL IMPACT TO THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY WHETHER YOU'RE CONNECTING WITHIN A PREEXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD ON A LOT THAT NEVER HAD A HOUSE ON IT BEFORE OR YOU'RE IN A WHOLE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WOULD APPLY IF YOU HAD AN EXISTING HOUSE, RIGHT? THAT YOU. YEAH, THAT THAT WAS ALREADY CONNECTED TO THE SYSTEM.

AND THEN YOU WERE TO DEMO IT AND REBUILD IT, YOU WOULD HAVE AN ERC CREDIT FOR THAT SAME EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL CONNECTION.

BUT IF THERE WAS NEVER A HOUSE THERE CONNECTED TO A SYSTEM, THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT CREDIT.

SO IT DOES APPLY FOR IN THAT SITUATION FOR AN EMPTY LOT.

AND THEN THIS IS THIS IS A ONE TIME FEE IN REGARDS OF NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN.

CORRECT? NEW HOME, BASICALLY NEW HOMES, NOT COMMERCIAL.

APPLIES TO COMMERCIAL AS WELL.

ANYTHING REQUIRING NEW CAPACITY, NEW CONNECTION TO THE SYSTEM THAT'S NOT ALREADY THERE.

AND THIS CONNECTION FEE IS OR THIS PROPOSED OR WHATEVER.

IS IT? DO WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL? IT'S YOUR CURRENT FEE IS BASED OFF THE METER SIZE, SO THIS NEW FEE IS PROPORTIONAL.

SO IF IT'S A SMALL COMMERCIAL THAT REQUIRES A THREE QUARTER INCH METER SIMILAR TO A RESIDENTIAL, IT'S THE SAME AS RESIDENTIAL.

BUT IF IT'S A LARGER COMMERCIAL THAT REQUIRES A ONE YEA, A TWO INCH, THERE'S A SCHEDULE IN THIS IN THE REPORT THAT HAS THE LARGER METER SIZES.

75. PAGE 75.

PAGE 75. YEAH. AND ALL THESE CHARTS FOLLOW THAT.

SO IF INDIVIDUALS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME READING THOSE NUMBERS, BUT THAT'S WHERE THAT IS AND YOU'VE GOT DOWN TO 5/8 OF AN INCH.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL SIZE, UP TO 12 INCHES.

YEAH, I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE I SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

YEAH. SO I THINK WE NEED TO GET THERE A LITTLE BIT QUICKER THAN SLOWER BECAUSE WE GET A LOT OF CATCHING UP TO DO.

SO IS THERE IF WE WANT TO DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE, WE CAN WAIVE THOSE FEES, CAN'T WE, AS A COUNCIL?

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AND I'LL LET. I'LL SPEAK I'LL LET THE CITY ATTORNEY HAVE THE FINAL SAY ON THESE MATTERS.

IS IMPACT FEE STATUTES DO HAVE CARVE OUT FOR CERTAIN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

YOU CAN ALSO THE VILLAGE CAN BASICALLY SUBSIDIZE IT THROUGH OTHER FUNDS AS WELL BECAUSE AGAIN, IF YOU'RE NOT CHARGING THESE FEES, THEN THAT COST IS GOING TO THE RATEPAYERS.

SO THERE'S A POLICY DECISION AND PLUS THERE IS SOME LANGUAGE IN STATUTES THAT CAN PROVIDE SOME RELIEF THERE AS WELL.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER YOU POSE AN AN INTERESTING POINT.

I'LL NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE I APOLOGIZE.

ONE OF THE EXEMPTION, THE EXEMPTION HE WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE, ABOUT WATER AND SEWER CONNECTION FEES, CAPITAL CONNECTION FEES BEING EXEMPTED FROM ALL OF THE STATUTORY RESTRICTIONS RELATING TO IMPACT FEES THAT ARE IN THE IMPACT FEE.

STATUTE. IT'S THAT STATUTE AS WELL THAT ACTUALLY GRANTS THE GRANTS THE ABILITY TO EXEMPT AFFORDABLE HOUSING FROM IMPACT FEES.

SO THAT'S THAT'S A MOSTLY THAT STATUTE IS CONSIDERED RESTRICTIONS ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT, BUT THAT ONE'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT OF A BOON TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

I NEED TO LOOK AT THAT THAT QUESTION MORE WITH REGARD TO WATER AND SEWER CONNECTION FEES.

IN ANY EVENT, THOUGH, AS TONY MENTIONED, WE WOULD IF IF WE WERE TO ELECT TO, WE COULD SUBSIDIZE IT FROM ANOTHER FUND AS WELL IN THE INTEREST OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND I NEED TO LOOK AT THAT PIECE A LITTLE BIT.

I'M JUST OF THE FEELING THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BUILD A NEW DEVELOPMENT OR A NEW HOUSE.

WE SHOULD WE SHOULD GET PAID FOR THAT CONNECTION.

WE NEED IT. AND WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM? NO, THAT'S ALSO A WAY TO PRICE OUT THE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT TOO WELL.

I THINK THE PEOPLE CAN AFFORD IT.

I THINK WHAT PRICES THEM OUT IS WHEN YOU DELAY A PROJECT BY TWO YEARS AND IT INCREASES BY 60%, THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS DRIVING IT OUT.

I DON'T THINK EIGHT OR 10,000 OR 20 OR $30,000 IS IS GOING TO DRIVE ANYBODY OUT THAT WANTS TO BUILD SOMETHING.

I THINK ONCE WE GET THAT STREAMLINED AND GET THESE PROJECTS APPROVED AND GET THEM DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION.

AND I DON'T THINK THE DEVELOPERS AND I'VE SPOKEN TO THEM ABOUT THIS VERY SUBJECT, THEY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PAYING IT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER HERNANDEZ YES.

AND JUST TO PROBABLY CLARIFY, THIS IS A ONE TIME FEE.

THAT DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY NEW DEVELOPMENT, HAS HAS TO PAY OR COMMERCIAL AND THAT THIS WOULD NOT IMPACT THE CURRENT RATE PAYERS.

CORRECT. IF THEY'RE ALREADY IN OUR SYSTEM, IF THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM, THE RATE PAYERS IS IF THE IF YOU DON'T GET CLOSE TO THE FULL COST IN A NUMBER OF YEARS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO DO IT IN A YEAR, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FINANCING, YOUR RATEPAYERS ARE GOING TO WIND UP PAYING FOR PART OF THAT PLAN EXPANSION THAT'S GOING FOR GROWTH.

SO THE SIMPLE THE SIMPLE SHORT ANSWER IS YOU'RE CORRECT, IT'S JUST FOR NEW.

WE'RE NOT AFFECTING MONTHLY RATES RIGHT NOW, BUT IF WE WAIT TO SAY TEN YEARS, THEN EFFECTIVELY YOUR RATE PAYERS ARE GOING TO BE PAYING FOR PART OF THE GROWTH.

SO. CORRECT. SO THIS FEE IS EXCLUSIVELY TO HELP BUILD OUT OR IMPROVE THE SYSTEM SO THAT IT CAN HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL CONNECTIONS THAT THERE IS.

SO IF THERE WAS THERE WAS THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT CAME IN AND THEY DIDN'T PAY THEIR SHARE, THAT IMPACT TO OUR SYSTEM WILL HAVE AN IMPACT AS A WHOLE.

AND THEN WHO WOULD BE THE RATE PAYERS WOULD BE RIGHT, WOULD BE HURT WITH THAT COST RIGHT AT THE END OF THE DAY.

SO I REALLY THINK THAT IF A DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, THEY NEED TO PAY THEIR SHARE IN CONNECTION FEES AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY SEE IF MR. VILLAGE ATTORNEY, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN DO LIKE IF IN AN EXISTING WE CAN DO LIKE A CLOUD.

NO. ON AN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE CAN PROBABLY THAT THEY DON'T FEEL THE IMPACT IN ONE JUST WE CAN DO IT ON LIKE A CERTAIN TERMS. WE'LL CHARGE THEM THE SAME BUT JUST YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE NOW, YOU KNOW, LIKE A PAYMENT PLAN.

I'M TALKING LIKE A PAYMENT PLAN AND SAID, YEAH, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE LOCAL RESIDENT THAT HAS A HAS A LOT HERE AND WANTS TO BUILD IN THE FUTURE AND

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YEAH. IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO CONSTRUCT AND YOU ARE GOING TO GET A LOAN WHICH IS MOST LIKELY WHAT YOU WOULD DO, THAT WOULD JUST BE A COST THAT BE ROLLED IN THE BEST WAY THEY WOULD FINANCING IT WOULD BE WITH A BANK.

OKAY, SO THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE CONCERNED IN REGARDS OF THE THE RESIDENT PAYING THAT 7000 AUTOMATICALLY THEY'D BE IN THE LOAN WHICH HELPS THEIR PAYMENT PLAN.

OR AND ONE THING TO REMEMBER, BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AGAIN AND AGAIN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS FOR ANYTHING THAT IS AN IMPACT FEE OR ACTS AND LOOKS A LOT LIKE AN IMPACT FEE LIKE THIS.

YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER TO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THAT FEE, I.E.

SO IT CAN'T BE CHALLENGED.

THEY COLLECT, WE COLLECT LOTS OF MONEY, WE PLAN TO USE IT FOR SOMETHING IMPORTANT AND THEN IT ALL GOES AWAY, WHICH HAS HAPPENED IN PLACES BEFORE, TO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THAT FEE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OF EXCEPTIONS STATUTE PROVIDES.

WE'VE GOT TO APPLY IT EVENLY TO EVERYBODY.

WE CAN'T JUST SAY, OH, YOU GUYS CAN PAY IT AND YOU GUYS DON'T.

AND SO ON HERE. AND ONCE WE ONCE WE LET'S JUST SAY WE APPROVE THIS POTENTIAL FEE OF 7000.

CAN WE COME? I KNOW THERE'S PLANS TO RELOOK.

LOOK AT IT IN 2024.

IS THERE A CERTAIN TERMS THAT WE CAN PERCENTAGE WE CAN BRING IT DOWN OR UP OR OR WE CAN JUST CHANGE THE AMOUNT WHEN TO HOWEVER THE THE STUDY COMES BACK? WELL, I WOULD LAYER ON TO WHAT TONY HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE RATE.

IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE NEXT STEP FOR THE FOR THE VILLAGE WILL BE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RATE STUDY.

OUR SRF LOANS ARE PUSHING US KIND OF IN THAT DIRECTION TO DO THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ADEQUATE DEBT CAPACITY.

SO THE NEXT THING THAT WE WILL BRING TO YOU, NOT TODAY, BUT IN THE FUTURE, WOULD BE UTILIZING MORE THAN LIKELY THIS FIRM.

THAT'S WHAT THEY DO TO DO A RATE STUDY.

AND THEN SO IF YOU WERE GOING TO LOWER THAT FEE, THAT THEN BECOMES PART OF THAT FORMULA AS.

AM I RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.

WE LOOK OUT FOR WHOEVER DOES.

YOU LOOK OUT FIVE YEARS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HOW MUCH IMPACT FEE REVENUE YOU'RE GETTING IN.

AND IF THEY'RE AT 1200 DOLLARS, IT'S NOT VERY MUCH.

WE WON'T SPEND VERY MUCH TIME LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT VERY MUCH.

BUT IF IT'S CLOSER TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, IT'S GOING TO ADD UP AND OVER THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX YEARS.

THAT'S A FUNDING SOURCE TO EITHER PAY DOWN YOUR DEBT OR TO FUND AN EXTENSION OR WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO TO MINIMIZE YOUR DEBT AND THE IMPACT ON THE RATEPAYERS.

OKAY. SO BECAUSE THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACTION TODAY.

SO WHEN WOULD WE START SEEING LIKE AN ACTION ITEM BECAUSE DEVELOPMENT IS COMING AND TERRA LAGO AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL MAKE THE DEADLINE, BUT I THINK THAT OUR RATEPAYERS SHOULDN'T BE PAYING FOR THE IMPACT THAT THESE NEW SYSTEMS, NEW CONNECTIONS ARE GOING TO HAVE ONTO OUR SYSTEM.

AND OUR SYSTEM NEEDS THE REPAIRS AND THE UPGRADE AND THE FUTURE PLAN BUILDOUT.

SO. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP IN REGARDS OF THIS SO THAT WE CAN NOT DELAY IT, LIKE COUNCILMEMBER DEPALO SAID, BUT JUST WE NEED TO GET THIS ON THE ROLL.

I WILL ADDRESS AT THE LAST THE LAST SLIDE ADDRESSES NOT THE EXACT TIMING, BUT THE PROCEDURE.

MAYBE WE CAN ADDRESS THE TIMING AT THE LAST WHEN I GET TO THE LAST SLIDE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FURTHER STUDIES THIS THAT YOU BROUGHT TO US.

HOW LONG DID IT TAKE TO PUT THIS TOGETHER? HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON THIS, THIS REPORT? WE ABOUT LITTLE LESS THAN A YEAR AGO.

WE WERE WORKING THROUGH EVERYTHING WE HAD DRAFTED, I THINK, IN MAY.

AND THEN WE WORKED OVER THE SUMMER AND THEN IN SEPTEMBER.

SO WE'VE HAD WE'RE WORKING OFF THE DRAFT OFF OF SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS NEAR FINAL.

I WOULD SAY AT THIS POINT YOU CAN CALL IT FINAL AND IT WOULD BE DONE SO.

OKAY. AND IN LOOKING AT THIS AND WE'RE TALKING FOUR YEARS OUT AS FAR AS IMPLEMENTATION OR SOONER IN THAT FOUR YEARS, THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAS IT WITHIN THEIR POWERS TO RAISE THEIR RATES.

SO IN TWO YEARS, WHEN WE RELOOK AT THIS.

THEY MAY HAVE CHANGED THEIR RATES AND WHERE WE ARE IN TWO YEARS, LIKE IN BETWEEN TO QUESTION JUPITER AT THAT POINT.

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YEAH. AND IN JANUARY ONE YEAR, JANUARY 2025, YOU'D BE AT 6450, RIGHT? YES. BETWEEN JUPITER AND TEQUESTA.

YES. OKAY. SO IN TWO YEARS, THEIR LITTLE GRAPHS BAR MAY HAVE CHANGED AND MAYBE MORE THAN THAN WHERE WE'RE AT.

AND WE'RE JUST IN BETWEEN THERE.

SO. YEAH.

SO BUT IN TWO YEARS, BEING ABLE TO REVISIT THAT AND SEE WHERE WE ARE COMPARED TO WITH EVERYBODY ELSE ON HOW IT'S GOING.

YEAH, EXACTLY. I WOULD EXPECT WE CAN CHANGE IT THEN IF WE ALL WE NEED TO BE MORE.

IT NEEDS TO BE LESS, YOU KNOW, COMEDIES GOING THIS WAY, BUT IT GETS US HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

YES. AND YOU WOULDN'T BE AN OUTLIER IN TWO YEARS.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M RECOMMENDING YOU REVIEW JUST TO SEE WHAT THINGS LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT.

WHO KNOWS? YEAH. OKAY.

GETS US HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE HAVE ANYTHING? WELL, I'M SURE I WILL.

DID YOU HAVE. YEAH. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? YEAH. AND JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION ON THE PROCEDURE.

SUMMARY IS WE RECOMMEND PHASING IT IN THE ADOPTIONS TO AN ORDINANCE OR TO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THE APPROPRIATE NOTIFICATIONS AND UPDATED BY OCTOBER 2024.

SO THAT'S THE SECOND.

THAT WAS THE SECOND STEP AT THAT POINT.

SO AS FAR AS THE TIMING OF ORDINANCE AND HAVING THAT, I THINK OUR REPORT CAN BE CONSIDERED FINAL.

I WOULDN'T DELAY OUR REPORT A WHOLE LOT BECAUSE IF YOU DELAY IT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE NUMBERS AND GET WITH THE ENGINEERS.

AND THAT'S THE WHOLE PROCESS. AND I DON'T THINK I THINK IT'S BETTER IF YOU FINALIZE THIS SOONER THAN LATER.

SO YOU CAN USE THIS REPORT AND YOUR ORDINANCE AS FAR AS TIMING.

YEAH. AND ONE ONE ADDITIONAL THING FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT.

AND SO THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

SO YOU'RE NOT MAKING ANY FINAL DECISIONS TONIGHT, BUT STAFF WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF FEELING, DIRECTION, WHAT HAVE YOU, BECAUSE WE START THIS ON THIS PROCESS.

IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THE FIRST.

ANYTHING IMPOSING A FEE LIKE THIS WOULD BE CATEGORIZED AS, AS OR LIKE AN IMPACT FEE, WHICH IS THE TYPE OF LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION HAS TO GO THROUGH PCA.

B THEN IT'LL BE COMING TO YOU ALL FOR TWO READINGS.

WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT THAT TO GO THROUGH IN IN SOME FORM CATEGORICALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHERE YOU GUYS ARE THINKING.

SO I'VE HEARD PHASING AND JUST WANT TO SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY FURTHER THOUGHTS ON WHAT SORT OF NUMBERS BASED ON THIS WE HAVE AS AS TONY MENTIONED, THE WHAT IS WHAT THE STUDY SUPPORTS IS LEGALLY YOU COULD INSTANTANEOUSLY GO UP TO THAT TOTAL AMOUNT.

THEIR ACTUAL RECOMMENDATION IS TO PHASE IN TO THAT TOTAL AMOUNT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO UP IN ANY PERIOD OF TIME UP TO THAT TOTAL AMOUNT.

YOU COULD GO UP TO SOME AMOUNT LESS THAN THAT TOTAL AMOUNT OVER WHATEVER PHASING PERIOD OF TIME YOU'D LIKE.

YOU COULD SAY YOU WANT TO GO ON THE TRAJECTORY THEY'VE GOT.

THEY'RE ON A FOUR YEAR TIMETABLE, BUT JUST HAVE IT FOR TWO YEARS AND REEVALUATE.

YOU COULD DO ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO WE'D WELCOME ANY THOUGHTS SO THAT WE CAN GET IT INTO INITIAL FORM.

IT'S IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FINAL.

YOU GUYS CAN CHANGE IT AT FIRST READING.

YOU GUYS CAN CONTINUE GET CHANGE IT ON THE SECOND FIRST READING.

YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT, BUT WE JUST WANT TO GET IT SOMEWHERE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

STARTING POINT. YES, I CAN'T I CAN'T SEE THAT.

BUT WHERE'S THE COUNTY AT? 3000. MY EYES ARE GOING BACK TO THE COUNTIES.

383. YEAH.

WHAT? WHAT'S THE NUMBER? 38. TEN. AND WHO WHO'S WAY UP TOP.

TEQUESTA, JUPITER.

THE DEL STEWART SOUTH PARK REGIONAL CITY OF STEWART, INVERNESS.

AND I WOULD GO, OH, MAYBE I OUGHT TO BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE CITY OF STUART AND MARTIN COUNTY THEN.

AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE FOUR YEARS AGO.

BUT HERE WE ARE.

SO WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT PHASING IN? ARE YOU TALKING? I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST GOING JUST GOING WITH IT, GOING WITH THE NUMBER AND THEN REVISITING AGAIN AS AS AS TIME GOES ON.

MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT EVERY YEAR.

EVERY OTHER YEAR. I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, BUT.

START OFF WITH. WE NEED.

WE NEED TO GET THAT RATE UP.

OTHERWISE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, IS THE USER IS GOING TO END UP PAYING THAT MONEY.

YEAH. I DON'T GET PAID THAT MUCH MONEY, SO I DON'T WANT MY WATER BILL GOING UP.

BUT. AND.

AND. AND THIS IS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THINKING FURTHER OUT, TALKING ABOUT EMPTY LOTS AND NEW BUILDS, AND IT'S JUST ROLLED RIGHT INTO THAT COST.

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AND THIS IS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I THOUGHT I HAVE WHENEVER WE INCORPORATE IT, THAT THE SYSTEM IS GOING TO EXPAND AND IT WILL COME TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'M ON A WELL AND A SEPTIC SYSTEM.

I'M NOT EVEN NEAR CITY WATER WHEN IT COMES.

AM I GOING TO BE REQUIRED AND MADE TO GET ON THAT SYSTEM? AND WHEN I AM, OR IF MY CHILDREN ARE, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT TOTAL COST THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH IMMEDIATELY.

AND AT THAT POINT, IT MAY BE OVER 80 $200.

THAT'S JUST A FUTURE CONCERN WHEN WE START DOING THIS, THAT IT'S NOT JUST NEW DEVELOPMENT, I GET NEW DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT DOES IMPACT.

IT DOES IMPACT, AND THAT WILL BE FURTHER DOWN THE LINE.

BUT I DO HAVE SOMETHING TO SUBMIT WITH YOU ON THESE PROGRAMS, WHICH I WORK WITH ON EXISTING ROOFTOPS.

IS THIS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THERE'S NOTHING.

IT'S JUST A VACANT EXISTING, ESPECIALLY A SEPTIC TO SEWER, WE CALL THEM.

PROGRAMS ARE POPULAR.

THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE. THEY'RE ACTUALLY A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THIS.

AND TYPICALLY THERE'S THEY DON'T HAPPEN WITHOUT GRANTS THAT ARE TARGETED FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THEN USUALLY THERE IS THAT ASSESSMENT OVER, SAY, TEN, 20 YEARS.

SO AT LEAST YOU SPREAD THE COST.

AND I KNOW IT'S STILL A LOT AND IT'S A IT'S A HOT SPOT.

AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE VILLAGES MANDATORY CONNECTION POLICY OR ANYTHING.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT BUT THAT'S LOOMING ON THE HORIZON.

THAT'S THE THINGS THAT THAT THE NEXT GENERATION WILL HAVE TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

YES. VICE MAYOR STONE.

SO I GUESS MY PROPOSAL WOULD PROBABLY BE WHY DON'T WE JUST GO WHERE CITY OF STUART IS AND IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS WE REVISIT.

IT'S ABOUT HALFWAY. YES, MA'AM.

YES. FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.

WE HAVE WE DIDN'T OWN OUR WATER SYSTEM FOUR YEARS AGO.

WE JUST OWNED IT, WHAT, TWO YEARS AGO? LESS THAN TWO YEARS.

YEAH. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING AROUND THE CITY OF STEWART, BECAUSE IF WE TARGET SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW, WE WE WERE ASSUMING WITH WITH CALCULATIONS, WITH MODELS, WITH ALL THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE, THAT THIS IS HOW MUCH IT SHOULD COST A FUTURE DEVELOPER PERSON CONNECTING.

BUT IF WE SHOOT TO THE VERY END OF IT TO TO THE TO LEAST OF IT, GUESS WHO'S GOING TO PAY THAT COST IN LIKE A YEAR, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE RATEPAYERS KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR AND TELLING YOU WHY DID YOU DO THAT? SO I THINK THAT WE WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL.

AND I DO THINK THAT STARTING BECAUSE WE IF WE IMPLEMENT A CERTAIN AMOUNT, THEN WE CAN GO AND DO A STUDY WITHIN THE YEAR TO ADJUST IT, WHICH WOULD MAKE US SEE HOW OUR FINANCES ARE, HOW OUR PROJECTS ARE, BECAUSE ANYTHING COULD CHANGE.

SO I THINK THAT SHOOTING TO THE MIDDLE, WHICH IS LITERALLY ABOUT.

CITY OF STEWART WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH BECAUSE IT'S NOT TOO HIGH AND IT'S NOT TOO LOW.

AND I DON'T WHAT I FEAR IS WE GO MORE WITH THE COUNTY.

YOU KNOW, THEY'VE HAD THEIR SYSTEM FOR MANY YEARS.

THEY'VE WE JUST THEY'VE HAD IT MAINTAINED THIS SYSTEM WASN'T MAINTAINED.

THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER.

THIS SYSTEM WAS NEVER EVEN TOUCHED LIKE IT WAS JUST WITH BANDAGES.

SO THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS THINK OUR OUR STAFF AND THE WATER DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING SO MUCH WORK ON IT NOW THAN WHAT IT USED TO BE.

BUT I THINK THAT IF WE LOWBALL IT, IT'S GOING TO COME AND HURT OUR RATEPAYERS AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT.

WE WANT AND THIS IS A ONE TIME FEE.

SO THIS ONE TIME FEE, WE CAN'T.

LIKE HE SAID, WE CAN'T GO BACK AND CHARGE.

OUR DEVELOPER.

HEY, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THIS, BUT.

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SO CAN YOU PAY US UP FOR THAT DIFFERENCE? YEAH, IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT.

SO I THINK THAT DOING A 5000.

AROUND THAT CITY OF STUART WOULD IS NOT TOO LOW.

IT'S NOT TOO HIGH. SO THANK YOU.

SO I'M KIND OF HEARING A CONSENSUS HERE IS ABOUT WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

IS THE CONSENSUS STOPPING THERE OR LET THAT BE THE FIRST PHASE IN AND THEN YOU GIVE IT ANOTHER YEAR AND YOU PHASE UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.

BECAUSE I'M HEARING A CONSENSUS HERE ABOUT WHERE IT SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY.

BUT ARE WE IS THAT IT STOPPING THERE? I WOULD SAY REVISIT IT IN TWO YEARS.

SO YOU'RE SAYING LEAVE IT ALONE, GO THERE.

LEAVE IT ALONE FOR TWO YEARS.

DON'T FACE ANYTHING IN THE IN BETWEEN.

OKAY. WHAT ELSE WE GOT? I WOULD SAY VISIT IT THE FOLLOWING YEAR JUST TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE.

BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, EVERYTHING CHANGES AND NOTHING IS THE SAME.

SO YOU CAN HAVE YOU CAN LOWER IT, YOU CAN PUT IT UP.

BUT THAT'S, THAT'S IN THE YEAR.

SO YOU, YOU HAVE ESTIMATIONS.

YOU YOU DON'T HAVE ESTIMATIONS HERE.

WE'RE GOING OFF ESTIMATIONS, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE CALCULATIONS ONCE THEY START CONNECTING AND ONCE WE SEE APPROVED ROOFTOPS CONNECTING, ONCE WE SEE SOMETHING GOING ON AND WE'LL HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH IMPACT THAT WILL HAVE TO OUR SYSTEM.

SO I THINK THAT VISITING IT WITHIN A YEAR IS FEASIBLE.

YEAH, I MEAN, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN SONG.

I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT AND WE REVISIT IT.

AND TWO YEARS.

LET'S SEE WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE IS AND LET'S SEE WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

AND THEN WE CAN WE NEED TO GET GET IT UP THERE SO AT LEAST WE CAN SUSTAIN AND.

OKAY. WELL, I THINK WE HAVE A CONSENSUS HERE AS FAR AS WHERE WE NEED TO START AT.

BUT I'M KIND OF WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ A YEAR TIME INSTEAD OF TWO.

AND THAT'S FINE BECAUSE BECAUSE IN THAT TIME YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO BE MOVING AND SAYING, OKAY, I'M GOING TO DO THIS, I'M GOING TO DO THAT.

AND YOU CAN SEE IF YOU'RE GOING TO.

THE USAGE. SO I'M KIND OF THE YEAR BECAUSE THERE A LOT CAN HAPPEN IN A YEAR.

YEAH. SO YOU GOT DEVELOPERS ARE NOT GOING TO COME BECAUSE OF A CONNECTION FEE GOT AN IDEA WELL YEAH ONE LAST QUESTION.

JUST SINCE YOU ALL ARE IN A DIRECT DIRECTION GIVING MOOD THE.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO YEARS OR WHATEVER DO DO WE MEAN COMMISSION THE STUDY A YEAR FROM NOW? STUDIES TAKE TIME. I WANT TO HAVE IT IN PLACE FOR A YEAR AND THEN PULL THE TRIGGER ON GETTING A NEW STUDY IN PLACE. SO THEN THEN THAT WOULD MAKE IT ABOUT TWO YEARS, WHENEVER.

THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. WHERE DO WE WANT TO PULL THE TRIGGER? FOUR MONTHS FROM NOW ON, I'M GUESSTIMATING, TONY, HOW LONG IT WOULD BE.

THE PRACTICALITIES OF THAT.

DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY THOUGHTS YET? DO YOU WANT TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON IT AFTER A YEAR? I WOULD SAY YES. I WOULD SAY THAT'S THE WAY WE SHOULD GO.

YEAH. ALSO, CAN I GET CLARIFICATION? MAYOR COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ SAID SHE WANTED TO DO HALF OF OUR AMOUNT, WHICH IS 8200.

SO I'D BE 4100 AND CITIES TOWARDS AT $4,025.

SO IF YOU WANTED TO STICK WITH THE CITY OR YOU WANT TO GO WITH THE 4100, THEN YOU'D JUST BE A TAD ABOVE THE CITY AND UNDERNEATH THE NEXT ONE.

WELL, IF YOU IF YOU ADD THE 4100 TO THE 1200, THEN YOU'D UP TO 53.

SO THAT TAKES YOU UP BETWEEN VANILLA AND JUPITER.

IS THAT I JUST SAID HALFWAY 5000.

I KNOW I SAID HALF.

OKAY. YEAH.

DO WE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY OF STUART, I THOUGHT I WAS HEARING MATCHING THE CITY OF STUART BECAUSE I WASN'T HEARING WHAT WE HAVE.

PLUS THE CITY OF STUART.

AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I CAN JUST SAY LET ME JUST CLARIFY THAT.

AND JUST THE CITY WAS TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR STAFF.

WORKS. JUST TO ADD ANOTHER WRINKLE.

WE HAVE INSIDE STUART AT 4025 AND OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS, STUART WHICH IS $5,031.

I THINK THEY WERE REFERRING TO THE INSIDE.

INSIDE 4995.

I THINK WE'VE GOT GOING ON THERE.

YOU COULD PROBABLY DO THAT. SO BASICALLY, IF THEY'RE NOT IN THE VILLAGE LIMIT, WE CHARGE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR HOOKUP.

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YEAH. YOU CAN'T.

YOU CAN DO THAT.

BUT YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE THE STUDIES SUPPORT THE DIFFERENCE AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE GOT A SINGLE UNITARY STUDY.

SO ARE WE TALKING ARE WE TALKING THE 4000 OR THE 5000? WHAT I THINK WHAT WE HEARD IS 4025.

IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? I THINK IT WAS THE 5000.

THAT'S WHAT MINE WAS. YEAH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING.

SORRY. I'M LYING HERE.

THOSE ARE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING.

OKAY. AND THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE, BECAUSE WE'RE CURRENTLY, WHAT, AT $495,000? WELL, IT'S 5031 IS WHAT? THAT 5031.

THERE YOU GO. ON THE 4000.

WHICH ONE ARE YOU WITH? COME ON. I'LL GO WITH THE 531.

OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING WITH THE LARGER OF THE STEWART 5031.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GREAT.

THANK YOU. AND WITH WITH ALL THAT STRUCTURE THERE, IF YOU ALL THINK ABOUT IT AND CHANGE YOUR MIND WOULD BE VERY EASY.

BUT WE JUST NEEDED SOME STRUCTURE TO WORK WITH.

OKAY. GOOD.

PERFECT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. HARRISON. APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. NOLAN.

AND THAT IS THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

SO, ANNOUNCEMENTS.

SATURDAY, WORK, WORKDAY.

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OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS GOING TO BE FEBRUARY 9TH.

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WE STAND ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.