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GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN SPECIAL VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING THIS DECEMBER. THE 15TH 2022. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MARY GIVES THOMAS HERE. MINISTER ON COUNCIL MEMBER
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DENIZ HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER APOLLO HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ HERE. JUST A COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS. IF YOU HAVE A TELEPHONE, PLEASE PUT IT ON VIBRATE OR SILENCE. ALSO YOUR EXITS ARE TO YOUR LEFT AND TO YOUR RIGHT. YOU'RE BATHROOMS OR TO YOUR LEFT. HMM THE IMPLICATION THIS EVENING. UM PASTOR BRUCE WAS UNABLE TO BE WITH US, SO WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT OURSELVES. COULD STAND AND PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU THIS EVENING THANKING YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE. LORD AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENCE AMONG US. HELP US TO CONDUCT BUSINESS FOR ALL OF INDIAN TOWN AND THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD BE AWARE OF EVERYONE. HELP US AND GIVE US WISDOM. IN JESUS' NAME. WE PRAY.AMEN. MY PLEASURE ALLEGIANCE. MANAGE STATES OF AMERICA AND TO PUBLIC ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. MADAM CLARK. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS PULLED ITEMS OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS. OH NO, WE DON'T MATTER, MAN. THANK YOU. SORRY. DO I HAVE A MOTION
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FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY A COUNCIL MEMBER. DEPAULO. IS THERE A SECOND? MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND HAS BEEN SECONDED EVERYONE IN FAVOR. BYE BYE. PAST YOU MEANT ANONYMOUSLY. OKAY MOVING ON TO OUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. REGULAR AGENDA. FIRST[1.
Consideration of Interim Village Manager Services
]ITEM CONSIDERATION OF INTERIM VILLAGE MANAGER. SERVICES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THIS ITEM. IS THAT THE REQUEST OF MAYOR GIBBS THOMAS, SHE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE SELECTION OF AN INTERIM VILLAGE MANAGER. AT OUR DECEMBER 13TH DEPARTMENT HEAD MEETING WE MET. WE DISCUSSED VARIOUS OPTIONS FOR FILLING THESE SERVICES, INCLUDING PROCURING LOCAL TALENT. CONTRACTING WITH A HEADHUNTER, STAYING INTERNAL OR SOMETHING ELSE. IT WAS UNANIMOUS CONSENSUS OF THE SENIOR MANAGEMENT THAT STAYING INTERNAL OFFERS MANY BENEFITS TO THE VILLAGE. NAMELY MUCH LOWER COSTS, A QUICKER APPOINTMENT TIME FRAME AND LITTLE TO LITTLE TO NO LEARNING CURVE, WHICH WILL ULTIMATELY KEEP THE VILLAGE MOVING FORWARD MORE EFFICIENT, EFFICIENTLY AND QUICKLY. WE HAVE SEVERAL EXTREMELY CAPABLE INTERNAL CANDIDATES THAT COULD FULFILL THIS INTERIM ROLE. AFTER FURTHER DISCUSSION. IT WAS THE CONSENSUS OF THE DIRECTORS TO RECOMMEND THE INTERIM APPOINTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR DEBORAH RESOURCES, THE INTERNAL CANDIDATE. ATTACHED IS HER RESUME. ALTHOUGH SHE IS ONE OF OUR NEWEST DIRECTORS, THE REMAINING DIRECTORS HAVE AGREED THAT THIS WILL BE A TEAM EFFORT AND WILL ASSIST MS RESOURCE WHEREVER NEEDED. OKAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. I APPRECIATE, UM QUALIFIED STAFF THAT WE HAVE I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TOGETHER. AND MAKING THIS RECOGNITION RECORD. RECOMMENDATION. I'M DOING IT NOW. UM AND WORKING TOGETHER. AS YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, LEANING ON EACH OTHER AND WORKING TOGETHER BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. YOU KNOW WHAT'S IN THE PIPELINE? YOU KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. UM AND MYSTERY SOS. UMU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY? DEBBIE RESOURCE FOR THE RECORD. I AM HUMBLED BY MY COWORKERS RECOMMENDATION FOR ME TO ASSUME THIS INTERIM POSITION . I WANT TO WORK WITH THEM AS A TEAM WHILE WE ALLOW COUNSEL TO DETERMINE WHO IS THE BEST CANDIDATE. TO LEAD THE VILLAGE FORWARD. I WOULD LIKE COUNSEL TO SEE WHO'S OUT THERE WHO IS THE BEST FIT FOR THIS POSITION AND BRING IT BACK SO THAT WE CAN HAVE GUIDANCE FOR WHERE WE NEED TO GO FROM HERE? OKAY? SO OKAY[00:05:02]
FOR THE. ACTING MANAGER AS WE MOVE FORWARD. UM AND YOU MAKE A VERY GOOD POINT. I APPRECIATE THAT. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM LOOK AT ALL THE TALENT THAT'S OUT THERE, AND THERE IS GOOD TALENT OUT THERE. UM. BUT YOU ARE WILLING TO ASSUME THE ROLE. KIND OF IN THE STAND IN THE GAP. YES AND AN INTERIM BASIS. I ASKED THE TEAM, I SAID I NEED YOU GUYS. WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM BECAUSE EVERYBODY BRINGS THEIR OWN EXPERTISE TO THE TABLE. WE ALL HAVE. YOU KNOW THINGS THAT MAKE US BETTER AT OUR JOBS THAN THAN SOMEONE ELSE. SO IF WE CAN WORK TOGETHER, WE CAN MOVE THIS VILLAGE FORWARD. OKAY. THANK YOU, UM, SO STAND IN IN THE GAP.KEEP THINGS ON TRACK. AS WELL AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE STAFF. AND UM, CONSIDERING. YOU KNOW, LOCAL TALENT. I KNOW THAT MR KENT SITTING HERE AND, UM, POINT OF ORDER. YES, SIR. SHOULDN'T COUNCIL DISCUSSED THIS FIRST WITNESS WHAT WE'RE DOING? WE'RE NOT WE ARE. YES, WE ARE. I UNDERSTAND. GIVE ME A MOMENT, PLEASE. THANK YOU. UM. AND IN DISCUSSION. I'M DISCUSSING AND I APPRECIATE WHAT HAS BEEN SAID HERE. AND UM, WE DO HAVE LOCAL TALENT. WE HAVE, UM WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M SURE THAT WOULD HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ENACTING ENTER MANAGER SO THAT BEING SAID. I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, FOR US TO DISCUSS AGAIN. MAYBE 82 WEEK PERIOD A WEEK. TWO WEEKS HAS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HOLIDAYS. OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IS FOUR WEEKS AWAY. JANUARY 12TH, SO THAT'S FOUR WEEKS. SO IF WE HAVE LIKE A TWO WEEK A WEEK OR TWO WEEK OPEN PERIOD FOR PEOPLE TO APPLY. YOU KNOW, YOU MAY KNOW SOMEBODY THAT THAT WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, ACT LIKE ACT. UM AS ACTING MANAGER.
THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY. WE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIFT THROUGH THOSE FOR TWO WEEKS. OR THREE WEEKS JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE COUNCIL UM WOULD LIKE TO DO AND THEN THAT WAY. WE SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE. WE'RE NOT JUST RELYING ON ON ONE CANDIDATE, BUT WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR OPTIONS IN THE INTERIM. BUT YOU ARE WILLING TO SERVE IN THE GAP IN US AND THAT THAT PROCESS THE NEXT TWO WEEKS . FOUR WEEKS WEST WE MOVE FORWARD. YES, MA'AM, OKAY. OKAY, THAT'S THAT'S MY THOUGHT PROCESS. VICE MAYOR STONE YES.
UH, FIRST OF ALL. I FEEL LIKE IT DISEASE. YOU DECEIVED THE PUBLIC, MADAM MAYOR. OKAY. LAST MEETING AND. YOU BASICALLY SAY THERE IS NO DISCUSSION. AND YOU TRULY WENT BEHIND THE COUNCIL'S BAD. AND CALLED A STAFF MEETING WITHOUT THE COUNCIL BEING AWARE OF IT. NOT EVEN THE VILLAGE, THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY KNOWING ABOUT IT UNTIL THE MEETING WAS HAPPENING. AH I'M TRULY DISAPPOINTED IN THAT. I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE THINGS IN YOUR OWN HANDS. AND NOT HAVING TO COUNCIL DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND THAT'S NOT HOW THIS GOVERNMENT'S SUPPOSED TO BE RUNNING, ABSOLUTELY. COUNCIL MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT ABSOLUTELY, MAYOR COUNCIL AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD APOLOGIZE TO THE PUBLIC. FOR DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THAT WAS VERY DECEIVING FOR YOU TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE ON THE SURFACE. YOU MAY THINK THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED. I DIDN'T CALL A STAFF MEETING. WELL, YOU TOLD STAFF TO HAVE THIS AGENDA MEETING THAT'S THE SAME THING. AGENDA MEETING. I'M NOT TOO SURE WHAT YOU MEAN. UM AND MR VOS. IF I MAY ASK YOU DID I DO ANYTHING IMPROPER AND ASKING DEAR DEERING, THEIR REGULARLY SCHEDULED STAFF MEETING THAT THEY COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION. AND I THINK IN THE EMAIL IF I PROVIDED THAT THE WHOLE COUNCIL WOULD APPRECIATE THEIR INPUT SO YEP, FOR FIRST OFF. AS YOU ALL MAY KNOW, UM, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND I HAVE A IN THE PREVIOUS BUILDING MANAGER HAD A DEPARTMENT HEAD MEETING EVERY TUESDAY, OKAY? AND, UM THAT EMAIL HAD COME IN. UM AND THAT COME TO THE INTERIM
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VILLAGE MANAGER. THE INTERIM VILLAGE MANAGER, UH, SUSAN OWENS BROUGHT IT UP AS WELL. I DID NOT. UM BUT. BUT THE INTER VILLAGE MANAGER BROUGHT IT UP WITH HER DEPARTMENT HEADS ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AS OF RIGHT, THIS SECOND WORK FOR SUSAN. UM AND SO, UH, SUSAN OWENS, IT WAS WITHIN HER DISCRETION DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT TO BRING IT UP. DISCUSS IT.COME BACK WITH ANY SORT OF RECOMMENDATION OR WHAT HAVE YOU AS YOU ALL KNOW, UM EACH. FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH. ASK THINGS ASKED FOR INFORMATION GUIDANCE. WHAT HAVE YOU OF THE VILLAGE MANAGER ALL THE TIME? IT'S WITHIN. ULTIMATELY, THE DISCRETION OF THE VILLAGE MANAGER WHAT TO BRING BACK AND SO ON. UM SO, MR BOSE WITH A SITUATION LIKE THIS WITH SUCH AN IMPORTANT MATTER, DON'T YOU THINK THE COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE MADE THAT DECISION? THAT'S ULTIMATELY FROM FIVE. YOU DECIDE . IT'S CERTAINLY COULD BE SOMETHING FOR YOU ALL TO DECIDE TONIGHT. IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY FURTHER. REQUESTS OR INQUIRIES OF WHOEVER IS THE EVEN SHORT TERM ACTING VILLAGE MANAGER. THAT IT SHOULD COME FROM THE WHOLE COUNCIL AND SO ON. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU ALL COULD DISCUSS. TALK ABOUT PROCESS TONIGHT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND WE CONTACT MR PAUL NICOLETTI. OKAY WHICH IS WHO HELPED US TO GET THIS VILLAGE OFF THE GROUND. OKAY? AND IF IT'S OKAY WITH COUNCIL I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DECIDE THAT IF WE WANT TO CONTACT HIM OR NOT. AND JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, WITH ANY OTHER UH, BILLY MANAGER. THEY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THEY HAVE THE COUNCIL SUPPORT. SO BEFORE WE EVEN CONTACT HIM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK TO HAVE EITHER A CONSENT TO CONTACT HIM OR NOT. OKAY CONTACT HIM TO PUT HIS NAME IN THE HAT TO BRING TO THE COUNCIL SO WE CAN SIFT THROUGH BECAUSE WHAT I AM SAYING FOR TWO WEEKS, THE INTERN MANAGER ENTER MANAGING, SO WE'RE NOT EVEN CONSIDERING ANYBODY ELSE. WE JUST WANT HIM TO BE APPOINTED SUSAN. MRS. IN OUR OWENS FOR THAT, SO IF SHE SITS IN IT FOR TWO WEEKS, IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR HER TO DO THAT. OKAY? IT'S ALWAYS HAPPENED WHENEVER HOWARD GOES OUT OF TOWN . HMM ONES ALWAYS SIT IN AND IF FOR TWO WEEKS I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT. AND DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YES THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, SO I CONCUR WITH VICE MIRROR STILL IN REGARDS OF BEING BLINDSIDED IN REGARDS OF NOT KNOWING THAT STAFF HAD GONE AND DID A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN REGARD OF THIS. I THINK THAT THIS VILLAGE IS STILL TOO YOUNG TO, UM. TO PUT IT IN SOMEONE'S HANDS THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE IN REGARDS OF BEING A VILLAGE MANAGER AND ASSISTANT MANAGER. I FEEL THAT EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD IS DOING GREAT.
I THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. I DO KNOW FOR A FACT IS THAT WE'RE OVERLOADING EVERY DEPARTMENT HAD HERE. WE CANNOT LOSE ONE STAFF MEMBER. RIGHT NOW. IF WE LOSE ONE STAFF MEMBER THIS IS GOING TO CRUMBLE DOWN QUICK. UM SO I THINK WE NEED TO BRING IN SOMEONE THAT HAS THE EXPERIENCE AND I CONCUR WITH VICE MAYOR STONE. UM MR NICOLETTI. HE'S ARMED MAGA STRAIGHT. HE HAS HAD EXPERIENCE . MEANWHILE WE'RE DOING THE RESEARCH THE SEARCH, UM, THAT WE NEED TO DO OR, UM, I ACTUALLY WAS TALKING TO WAIT ABOUT THIS IN REGARDS OF WHAT WE CAN DO A AND, UM WAIT. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU FOUND OUT WITH FCC M A PLEASE? SURE SO. TO SKIP AHEAD AND ON. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DISCUSS YOUR SECOND ITEM. BUT IN YOUR SECOND ITEM TONIGHT YOU HAVE A MEMO FROM KEN PARKER, WHO IS WITH THE FLORIDA CITY COUNTY MANAGER ASSOCIATION. OKAY AND HE HAD OUTLINED SOME INFORMATION AND SUSAN IS GOING TO GO OVER THAT IN A LITTLE BIT. UM AT UM.
AT COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ REQUEST BASED ON PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE HAD I REACHED OUT TO KEN AS WELL JUST TO ASK SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR OTHER SERVICES THAT CCM A PROVIDES IN ADDITION TO ASSISTING WITH THE FINAL SITTING MAN HELPING MANAGE THE
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CITY MANAGER SELECTION PROCESS, AS THEY DID PREVIOUSLY FOR THE VILLAGE. CCM A ALSO HAS A SERVICE. IT IS NOT A GUARANTEE BY ANY STRETCH THAT YOU WOULD FIND AN INTERIM VILLAGE MANAGER.BUT WHAT THEY DO HAVE IS THEY MAINTAIN AN EMAIL LIST. AH THAT HAS TWO SETS OF FOLKS. IT HAS THEIR WHAT THEY CALL M I T S OR MEMBERS IN TRANSITION. IT'S BASICALLY CITY MANAGERS WHO.
AREN'T A CITY MANAGER SOMEWHERE RIGHT NOW, BUT OUR MEMBERS AND ALSO RETIRED CITY MANAGERS, OKAY , THAT EMAIL LIST IS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN WIN A CITY OR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. AH ASKS, THEY CAN SEND OUT TO THAT EMAIL LIST STATEWIDE AND SAY, HEY, VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN NEEDS AN INTERIM VILLAGE MANAGER, AND THEY'RE INTERESTED TO SEE IF ANYBODY ON THIS LIST IS INTERESTED. LET ME YIELD. A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY YIELD NOBODY. UM, BUT THAT IS A POOL OF THOSE TWO SETS OF FOLKS THAT THEY OFFER, OF COURSE, AS A FREE SERVICE TO THE VILLAGE TO BE ABLE TO SEND OUT THAT INQUIRY TO THE TO THAT LIST RECEIVED BACK ANY INFORMATION THAT THEY MAY HAVE PEOPLE EXPRESSING INTEREST AND PASS IT ON TO THE VILLAGE. AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DO THAT. IN CASE WE DON'T DECIDE ON TODAY. UM, BUT LOOKING AT ALL THE RESUMES BECAUSE I DID AFTER I SAW THIS. AH AGENDA ITEM. I WAS CONCERNED BECAUSE WE NEED SOMEONE THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING AS A VILLAGE MANAGER, CITY MANAGER. AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OVERLOADED OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS , YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEES ARE CONCERNED AND I WOULD BE CONCERNED, TOO. IF I WERE AN EMPLOYEE. UM I ALSO KNOW THAT AS INTRA MANAGER, A MANAGER CAN FIRE GERMANY. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW. INDIAN TOWNS WATCHING SO. JUST LETTING YOU KNOW IN REGARDS OF IF YOU DON'T YOU DISLIKE SOMEONE OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS, UM, BUT THE TO RESUME IS THAT I REALLY, UM. LOOKED IN REGARDS OF DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE WOULD BE MR FLORIO AND MISS JEFFERSON. UNFORTUNATELY BOTH OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN OVERLOADED WITH WORK. SO BOTH OF THEM CAN'T TAKE THE POSITION BECAUSE I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR FLOREAL AND MISS JEFFERSON. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE EXPERIENCED BECAUSE IF. I WERE A DOCTOR AND I NEED SOMEONE TO REPLACE ME. WHO WOULD I CALL WHAT I CALL A REGISTERED NURSE OR C N A OR WHAT I CALL ANOTHER EXPERIENCED DOCTOR. IF I HAVE TO DO SURGERY, ANOTHER EXPERIENCED DOCTOR, UM SO I THINK THAT I THINK, MISS, UH. MISS REECE OWES FOR TRYING TO STEP IN BY REALLY THINK THAT INDIAN TOWN JUST TO, UM TWO. HOW CAN I SAY THAT? TOO NEW TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT DOES NOT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE. WE CAN'T AFFORD ONE. HMM. ONE PENNY. TO BE OR ONE DECISION TO GO WRONG, AND THEN IT JUST WAS ALL CRUMBLED DOWN. I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE THIS HAS A NEW VILLAGE. YOU KNOW I IT'S OKAY. THE VILLAGE MANAGER'S GONE I. I THINK TRANSPARENCY IS KEY. AND IN THE PREVIOUS SEARCH, WE DID HAVE TRANSPARENCY. AND I DO WANT TO ECHO THIS TO THE COUNCIL. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND THIS COMING SELECTION. BUT I THINK THAT. IT'S EASY TO SAY THAT THIS CAN BE DONE BY ANYONE , BUT NOT UNTIL YOU FILL THE SHOES AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE TELL ME THEY CAN FILL MY SHOES AND BUT NOT UNTIL THEY LITERALLY SIT THERE AND SEE ME OUT OF THE OFFICE FOR TWO WEEKS. THEY DON'T WANT MY JOB. SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE CONSIDERATE BECAUSE THIS IS AFFECTING THE LIVELIHOODS OF EMPLOYEES. THIS IS AFFECTING THE LIVELIHOOD OF RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS, AND WE CANNOT HAVE SOMEONE NOT EXPERIENCE MANAGING INDIAN. TO AND I'VE HEARD IT. I WENT TO THE LUNCHEON TREASURE COAST LUNCHEON YESTERDAY AND I HEARD IT THERE AGAIN. YOU KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THIS COUNCIL TO GET EDUCATION WITH THE FLORIDA LEGAL
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CITIES BECAUSE YOU WON'T KNOW IT'S EASIER TO TALK. HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS, BUT NOT UNTIL YOU SIT AND THE SEAT OR YOU WORK IN CITY GOVERNMENT. YOU'LL HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON. I LITERALLY SOMETIMES FEEL BAD FOR THE STAFF. BECAUSE THIS STAFF GOES OVER AND BEYOND. AND I THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING FOR WHAT YOU DO, BUT YOU GUYS ARE LITERALLY DOING 60 HOURS PLUS AND THERE'S PEOPLE OUT HERE AND SOCIAL MEDIA SAYING THAT YOU GUYS DON'T DO SQUAD SO I REALLY THINK THAT THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERATE THAT WE CANNOT. PUT THIS ON THE LINE. THIS IS LITERALLY IMPORTANT. I THINK THAT HAVING SOMEONE EXPERIENCED MEANWHILE, MR NICOLETTI OR D M A COME IN WHILE WE GO THROUGH TRANSITION, BUT. YOU KNOW, EVERYONE'S OVERWHELMED, SO THANK YOU. WHO WAS 1ST 1ST GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING, ALL. YOU KNOW, BEING ONE OF THE NEWEST COUNCIL MEMBERS. THREE MONTHS, AND I THINK A LOT TO LEARN. BUT WHAT I'VE SEEN IS I THINK WE NEED A CANDIDATE WHO HAS EXPERIENCE. WHY CAN'T WE PUT THIS OUT? TWO WEEKS. GET THE CANDIDATES IN AN INTERVIEW THEM ASK THEM QUESTIONS. DO THEY HAVE TO EXPERIENCE WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING TO DO GOOD IN INDIAN TOWN. THAT'S GOING TO BE RUNNING THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN. JUST MY TWO CENTS. COUNCILMAN APOLLO, OKAY? I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. THE OTHER NIGHT WHEN MR BROWN RESIGNED. BELIEVE THE MAYOR BOSS. SUSAN. YOU ALL WENT BACK TO HOWARD'S OFFICE.AND WE WERE TO SECURE THE COMPUTERS. MY MISTAKEN MY CORRECT NO, WE DID SO. EXCUSE ME, SO. YOU DID THAT I D KEYS. EVERYTHING. OKAY WE'RE WHERE IS MR BRIAN'S COMPUTER RIGHT NOW? IN THE WORKROOM, WHERE IN THE WORKROOM? IN THE WORK ROOM. HAS ANYBODY DONE ANYTHING WITH THE COMPUTER? WE HAD, UM, BLUE STREAM. TRY TO ADD GUIDE INTO THE COMPUTER. AND THEY ACCIDENTALLY TOOK OUT HOWARD'S PROFILE BUT THEN WENT IN AND THEY RECOVER THOSE FILES. I TALKED TO HOWARD, HE SAID ON THAT PARTICULAR MICROSOFT SURFACE, HE DID NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC RECORDS. EVERYTHING THAT HE DID HE VPN BP END IN AND WORKED ON OUR NETWORK, SO HE'S GOT EVERYTHING SAVED THERE. SO THERE WASN'T MUCH LEFT ON THAT MICROSOFT SURFACE AND WE HAVE HIS PC PERSONALLY KNOW WHAT WAS ON THAT COMPUTER. NOT PERSONALLY . OKAY SO YOU TOOK A COMPUTER TO BLUE STREAM. AND IT WAS SCRUBBED. AND THEN I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR VOS. AND I BELIEVE HE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH YOU. IT WAS BROUGHT BACK OVER THERE. OKAY TO TRY AND REVERSE WHAT WAS DONE, CORRECT. AND THEY DID THAT. AND THEY RETURNED IT BACK TO US. OKAY, SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS YOUR ENACTING VILLAGE MANAGER. WHY WOULD YOU TAKE A COMPUTER? AND HAVE IT SCRUBBED THAT WAS UTILIZED BY THE VILLAGE MANAGER. WHEN WE ASKED TO SECURE THE COMPUTER. IT WAS. IT WAS SCRUBBED BY MISTAKE. IT WAS NOT MEANT TO BE WHITE. MA'AM I'M SORRY. YOU YOU TOOK THE COMPUTER TO BLUE STREAM. THAT IS NOT A MISTAKE. NOW. THIS VILLAGE. OKAY WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD IN SEVERAL SEVERAL DISCIPLINES PRETTY QUICKLY. WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR BUILDING. WE NEED TO GET THESE PERMITS OUT. WE'RE GETTING READY TO GET SUED. MR VOSS CAN TELL YOU ABOUT IT. IF HE WANTS TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE CONVERSATION HE HAD WITH CYNTHIA ANGELOS. WHO IS AN ATTORNEY FOR THE SAME DEVELOPER THAT SHOOT THE COUNTY. SO WE DON'T HAVE TIME. TO DO ALL THE STUFF WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN PLACE.
THAT WE CAN PUT OUR TRUST IN. AND MY TRUST. IS WITH DEBORAH. TO DO THE RIGHT THING. NOW. IN THE MEANTIME. WE CAN PUT OUT A REQUEST. THAT THE VILLAGE MANAGER AND INTERIMS VILLAGE MANAGER BE BROUGHT BEFORE US SO THAT WE CAN VET THEM. EACH ONE OF US CAN VET THEM. OKAY, IT'S
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GOING TO TAKE TIME. AND I KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR. I RAN FOR VILLAGE COUNCIL. I KNEW THAT IT WOULD TAKE TIME. IT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF MY TIME. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. BECAUSE I WANT THE RIGHT THING FOR THIS VILLAGE. SO WE NEED TO MOVE. SO I SAY. MY TRUST IS WITH DEB. AND THEN WE NEED TO LOOK FOR AN INTERIM VILLAGE MANAGER. AND WE NEED TO HIRE A HEADHUNTER TO FIND A FULL TIME FULL FLEDGE MANAGER THAT'S GOING TO FIT THIS VILLAGE. AND WE NEED TO DO WITH THE HEADHUNTER. WE NEED TO TELL THE HEADHUNTER. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, AND THEY WILL GO FIND THAT HEAD FOR US. THEY CAN BRING HIM TO US, AND WE CAN DO AGAIN.LET'S VIETNAM AND MAKE SURE THAT THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR THE VILLAGE I DON'T WANT TO GET THIS WRONG.
I WANT TO GET IT RIGHT. OKAY SO THAT IS MY THOUGHT ON MOVING FORWARD. SO I WILL EVEN MAKE A MOTION RIGHT NOW. TO PUT DEBBIE. IN THAT SEAT IN THE VILLAGE MANAGER SEAT. AS AS. ENACTING VILLAGE MANAGER WITH ALL HER POWERS TO COMMENSURATE WITH THE ACTUAL POSITION. AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE A VOTE ON IT. OKAY, WE HAVE EMOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? HMM. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD, MAN. WELL, I HAVE THEM. THERE IS EMOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? THE MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF SECOND I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, OKAY? I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH GIVE OUR CONSENT TO CONTACT MR NICHOLA NICOLETTI, UH, TO BE OUR INTERN, CITY MANAGER. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. TO CONTACT PAUL NICOLETTI. NO SECOND THAT MOTION. OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. IS THERE ANY MORE, UH, COUNCIL? COMMENTS ON THAT. YES. YES SIR. MR NICOLETTI . HE ACTUALLY HELPED US TO GET THE VILLAGE OFF THE GROUND. AND I FEEL THAT RIGHT NOW, AT THIS MOMENT, HE WOULD BE THE BEST FIT TO BRING IN TO HELP US OUT TO AT LEAST STAY AFLOAT. AT THIS POINT. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ. I HAVEN'T MET MR NICHOLA TOE. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO GET TO KNOW HIM. BUT WHY CAN'T WE GIVE OTHER CANDIDATES A CHANCE TO COME IN HERE? GIVE THEM THOSE TWO WEEKS. WE COME BACK AFTER THE HOLIDAYS MEET THE FIRST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH. LET'S GIVE OTHER CANDIDATES THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IF THEY HAVE WHAT WE NEED TO RUN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE. YOU KNOW YOU GUYS KNOW HIM, BUT I DON'T KNOW HIM. BUT LET'S GIVE SOMEONE A CHANCE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE WILL TAKE THEM. WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND DISCUSS THIS. COME JANUARY, 5TH IF WE DECIDE TO GO THAT WAY. SO THAT'S A FAIR POINT. UH, I AGREE WITH THAT.
OKAY. HANG ON. OKAY GO AHEAD. I'M LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE AS I WAS SAYING, THAT'S A FAIR POINT. HOWEVER MR NICOLETTI IS FAMILIAR WITH THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWNS. HE'S ACTUALLY SERVING OUR CURRENT MAGISTRATE. AND AGAIN HE HELPED US TO GET OFF THE GROUND. HE HAVE RELATIONSHIP WITH MR BOZ. UH, SO IT'S OKAY, THIS POINT FOR A TEMPORARY FIT. I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE IDEAL. I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS FIRST. COUNCIL MEMBER HER LANDO'S YES AND I JUST WANTED TO CONCUR WITH VICE MAYOR STONE IN REGARDS OF WHAT HE STATED. UM BUT JUST TO LET COUNTER MEMBER PEREZ NO, UM WE CAN'T WAIT. YOU KNOW, I WOULD UNDERSTAND IF WE HAD IF MR BROWN WOULD STILL BE HERE, AND HE WOULD HAVE WAITED, BUT HE DIDN'T THE RESIGNATION WAS EFFECTIVE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AFFECTED, PROBABLY IN TWO WEEKS SO THAT WE COULD HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF FINDING AN INTERIM. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BEST DEAL BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A MANAGER RIGHT NOW.
AND I THINK THAT MISS SUSAN OWENS IS OVERWHELMED. I FEEL THAT WE CAN'T WAIT. THAT'S
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THAT'S THING. TWO WEEKS FOR US IS NOTHING PROBABLY BUT IN, UH. IN GOVERNMENT RULE TWO WEEKS CAN BE A LIFE OR DEATH SITUATION, SO I KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW MR NICOLETTI. HE WAS THE FORMER CITY OF STEWART. UM A CITY MANAGER. HE CAME IN HERE, UM, AND HELPED US OUT. HE THEN WENT OFF OF RETIREMENT AGAIN, AND THAT'S WHEN WE GOT MR BOSE. BUT I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW, JUST SO THAT WE CAN MAKE STAFF COMFORTABLE JUST BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, STAFF THIS IS FREAKING OUT . AND I WOULD BE FREAKING OUT TOO. I'D BE LIKE LITERALLY ALREADY PUTTING MY RESUMES OUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW. UM SO TO PREVENT. FROM CHAOS. I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT MOVE WHILE WE SEARCH FOR A PERMANENT VILLAGE MANAGER AND THAT PERMANENT VILLAGE MANAGER WILL COME MR NICOLETTI IS NOT LOOKING TO STAY . HE HE HE LOVES INDIAN TOWN. HE KNOWS ANY IN TOWN AND HE'S WILLING TO HELP. UM BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK RIGHT NOW. WE CANNOT LOSE. ONE DAY MORE. MR UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TO PAULO. WELL. YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD FROM THIS COUNCIL. MANY, MANY, MANY HUNDREDS OF TIMES. HOW HARD THE STAFF WORKS AND HOW MUCH FAITH THEY HAVE IN THE STAFF. I THINK THAT THE STAFF THEY ALL. PUT THEIR FAITH IN AND THIS RESOURCE. AND I THINK THE STAFF CAN KEEP IT TOGETHER. FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO BRING CANDIDATES FORWARD. EVEN FOR AN INTERIM. DO WE KNOW THAT MRS THAT MR NICOLETTI EVEN WANTS TO DO IT? ANYBODY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM? YOU DID. WHEN I CALLED HIM UP BECAUSE I TONIGHT ASKED HIM FOR OR I ACTUALLY TOLD HIM IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT ANY ANTON, WHAT WAS GOING ON, UM AND JUST LETTING YOU GUYS KNOW WHEN WE DO GO INTO PERMANENT VILLAGE MANAGER. THE MANAGER IS GONNA WANT 41 VOTE OR A 50. JUST LETTING YOU KNOW. SO WELL. I THINK WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. MR NICOLETTI IS NOT HERE. I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO HIM. UM I ALSO HAVE FAITH IN THE STAFF THAT THE STAFF CAN KEEP EVERYTHING GOING, I THINK FINANCIALLY, MIKE. YEAH.HE'S UM. LISTEN THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE HERE KNOWS THIS VILLAGE BETTER THAN ANYBODY COMING INTO IT. KNOWS WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON KNOWS THE UM. OUR FINANCES. STAFF KNOWS SO. I FEEL BETTER HAVING SOMEBODY FROM THE STAFF SIT IN THAT POSITION. FOR THE TIME BEING UNTIL WE FIND AN INTRO. AND FULL TIME REPLACEMENT. IT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE TIME. FIND A FULL TIME REPLACEMENT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE TIME. BUT WE NEED THE RIGHT PEOPLE SITTING IN THE RIGHT POSITIONS. WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY. OF. NOT MOVING ON CERTAIN THINGS. WE NEED TO MOVE.
WE NEED TO GET THESE BUILDING PERMITS OUT. WE NEED TO DO A TIMELY FASHION. WE NEED TO GET IT DONE. WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD , BUT THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT THINGS COMING UP. OKAY? WE JUST NEED TO GET PAST THIS POINT. AND I THINK, UTILIZING THE STAFF IS THE BEST WAY. TO GET THIS TRAIN STARTED AGAIN. SO. COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ. HAS ANYBODY ASKED MS OWENS IS SHE WANTS TO DO THIS POSITION? WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HER TONIGHT. THANK YOU. I AM INTERESTED IN REMAINING ON AS THE INTERIM VILLAGE MANAGER OF THE COUNCIL, SO CHOOSES I REALLY LOVE INDIAN TOWN. WANT TO KEEP US MOVING FORWARD? AND WE ALL WORK TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, AS DEBBIE SAID, AS A TEAM TO GET THIS DONE AND GET A PERMANENT MANAGER IN PLACE. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO
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SEE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE STAFF. BE BROUGHT TO LIFE HERE. I MEAN, IT'S THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. COUNSELING VICE MAYOR STONE THIS POINT, COUNCILMAN STAFF. WE'RE ON A DIFFERENT SUBJECT AT THIS POINT. AND I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BUT YOU KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH. YOU'RE GOING BACK TO SOMETHING WE ALREADY DISCUSSED. RIGHT NOW. WE'RE VOTING ON EITHER WE WANT TO HAVE MR NICOLETTI COME OVER FOR INTERVIEW. OR IF WE'RE GONNA IGNORE IT, OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS AFTER WE VOTED. LET'S CLARIFY THAT MOTION. SO THE MOTION IS THE CONTACT MR NICOLETTI MHM. TO MAKE SURE THAT HE'S INTERESTED. THAT WAS THE MOTION. JUST TO ASK HIM IF HE'S INTERESTED, CORRECT.THE GOAL IS TO BRING HIM IN. BUT LIKE THAT'S, UH, COUNCILWOMAN PEREZ WAS SAYING. SHE WOULD LIKE TO INTERVIEW HIM FIRST. OKAY? COUNCIL MEMBER PER AGREE, MAYBE GIVE TWO WEEKS. FOR CANDIDATES WHO ARE INTERESTED. WELL, WE HAVE WE HAVE A MOTION RIGHT NOW. WE'VE GOT EMOTIONLESS DEAL WITH THIS MOTION. AND SO, UM. I KNOW THAT. STAFF. IT'S DEFINITELY OVERWORKED. BUT YOU'RE. STAFF HAS COME TOGETHER AND COUNCIL IS NOT LISTENING. TO WATCH YOUR OVERWHELMING WHELMED STAFF HAS REQUESTED AND WHAT THEIR WHAT THEY HAVE, UM WHAT THEY HAVE SAID, AND WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS. I THINK TO PULL. I THINK TO PULL ONE PERSON IN FOR AN INTERVIEW. IS SELLING A SHORT BECAUSE. YES MR NICOLETTI HAS HELPED US IN THE PAST. BUT WE ARE OF DIFFERENT VILLAGE THAN WE WERE THEN. AND THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE. THAT I THINK DESERVE. AND UM, TO BE VETTED HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. THEY MAY BE INTERESTED, JUST LIKE MR NICOLETTI IS. SO JUST PULLING IN ONE PERSON. I THINK DOES THIS A REAL DISSERVICE? UM. THAT BEING SAID. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? YES MADAM MAYOR, MR ANITA PARCEL. MY NAME IS RONNY TO PRESSLER. I'M A RESIDENT. I NOTICED IN THE PAPER RECENTLY THAT COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE THERE'S BEEN AN EXODUS IN ST LUCIE COUNTY, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, MARTIN COUNTY AND THOSE ADMINISTRATORS WERE INTERVIEWED, AND EVERY ONE OF THEM CITED STRESS. AH I BELIEVE THAT MR BROWN RESIGNED BECAUSE OF STRESS AND HARASSMENT OR HARASSED HIM RIGHT OUT OF HIS JOB. AND THEY'RE THIS FAULT HERE FALLS RIGHT HERE WITH SOME MEMBERS OF THE OF THE COUNCIL.
UM I LOOKED AT THE APPLICANT THE ONE THERE WAS ONLY ONE INCLUDED. I BELIEVE IN OUR PACKET. AND AS FAR AS I CAN SEE, THAT PERSON DOES NOT EVEN MEET THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS AS FAR AS I CAN TELL FROM THIS APPLICANT. UM YOU SAY THERE SHOULD BE NO LITTLE OR NO LEARNING CURVE? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? FROM WHAT I CAN TELL THE PERSON DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A BACHELOR'S DEGREE. AH! IF IN CASE YOU FORGOT MR BROWN. WAS A CERTIFIED PLANNER. MR BROWN WAS A CREDENTIAL CITY MANAGER. THAT WAS AFTER HE GOT A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN SCIENCE. HE HAD A MASTER'S DEGREE IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, AND HE ALSO HAD ATTENDED THE STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM AT THE KENNEDY SCHOOL. THE HARVARD KENNEDY SCHOOL. HE WAS QUALIFIED , IMMENSELY QUALIFIED, AND I'M JUST LIKE I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'RE CONSIDERING THE APPLICATION THAT WAS PUT IN OUR PACKET. UM MAYBE SOMETHING'S MISSING FROM THERE, BUT THAT'S ALL I SEE THERE, AND THAT IS CERTAINLY NOT. AT THE LEVEL OF BACKGROUND AND TRAINING THAT YOU NEED TO BE A MANAGER. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? NO MATTER, MAN. OKAY THANK YOU. OKAY SO WE HAVE EMOTION TO JUST BRING IN MR PAUL NICOLETTI FOR AN INTERVIEW TO OFFER HIM A POSITION. DID I GET THAT CORRECT? OKAY AND IT HAS BEEN SECONDED. CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT. ABSOLUTELY, MADAM MAN. COUNCIL
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MEMBER HERNANDEZ YES. COUNCIL MEMBERS, APOLLO NO. COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ. VICE MAYOR STONE.MAYOR GIBBS THOMAS. NO. THE MOTION FAILS 32 THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION? YES, COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. LET'S GIVE THIS TWO WEEKS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE HOLIDAYS. GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT. CANDIDATES. INTERVIEW THEM, ASK THEM QUESTIONS. AND LET'S HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING ON JANUARY 5TH TO DISCUSS EVER ABLE TO FIND A GOOD CANDIDATE. THAT WOULD BE THREE WEEKS. NO. WELL, WE HAVE CHRISTMAS AND THEN WE HAVE NEW YEAR. SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING DEADLINE STATE THEY HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST AND THEY WOULD GIVE US A COUPLE OF DAYS TO REVIEW. OKAY QUESTIONS SO TWO WEEKS WOULD BE DECEMBER. THE 29.
THURSDAY. SO IF WE OPEN IT UP FOR INTERESTED PERSONS FOR TWO WEEKS. AND THEN YOU'RE WANTING.
LESS THAN THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. SO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING THEN WOULD BE JANUARY.
12 JANUARY THE 12TH SO THEN THAT WOULD GIVE US TWO WEEKS TO CONSIDER WHO HAD WHO HAD. HAD HAD PUT IN THEIR THEIR INTEREST. OKAY? I MEAN, IS THAT IS THAT EMOTION? OKAY SO TWO WEEKS AND TWO WEEKS, 29TH AND THE I'M SORRY I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN JANUARY, THE 12TH HERE. JANUARY, 12TH. MEETING AN AGENDA ITEM PUT ON THERE. YES OKAY. SO THAT IS A MOTION REGARDING THAT MUCH. OKAY HANG ON. SEE IF IT GETS A SECOND PERSON. AND THEN WE'LL CLARIFY. I'LL SECOND IT I WANT TO TALK ALSO. OKAY SO I THINK YOU WANT TO HEAD CLARIFICATION, SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THE MOTION IS FOR US TO GET CANDIDATES IN WHOEVER APPLIES WHOEVER APPLIES YES. AND THEN ALSO KEEPING MISS OWENS AS THE INTERIM MANAGER AT THIS POINT, UNTIL WE HAVE THAT ARE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 12TH. OKAY, THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN INCLUDE FGM A ON THIS, MR QUOTE? THAT'S FOR YOU ALL DECIDE I WAS GOING TO I WAS GOING TO ASK BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR LIST. I WAS GONNA ASK HOW YOU WANT TO. IF YOU GO THIS DIRECTION, HOW YOU WANT TO GET IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC. ONE OF THE MANY WAYS WOULD BE TO HAVE FCC. EMMA SEND IT OUT TO THAT LIST.
UM ADDITIONAL WAYS MIGHT BE WOULD IMAGINE TC PALM IS GOING TO REPORT ON THIS, BUT ADVISED TC PALM AND THEN POTENTIALLY ALSO ADVERTISE, UH, SOMETHING IN THE PAPER. BUT. IF IT'S GOING TO GO IN THIS DIRECTION, I SUGGEST ANY DISCUSSION ON WHAT WAYS YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT AND GET OUT BECAUSE WE ARE AND IT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. WE ARE IN THE CHRISTMAS NEW YEAR'S TIME, SO HE WANTED TO USE EVERY MEANS AVAILABLE TO GET IT DOWN, OKAY? SO MY SUGGESTION ALL THAT WOULD BE ADVERTISED THROUGH FCC M, A ALSO THROUGH THE FLORIDA LEGAL CITIES AND MAKE IT. NATIONALS SEARCH FOR THAT FOR AN INTERIM, JUST IN CASE SOMEONE I WOULDN'T MIND COMING DOWN. UM BUT I THINK HAVING THAT'S LIKE A MONTH. LITERALLY BY THE 12TH. IS THERE ANY CLOSER THAT WE CAN GET THEM? JUST SAYING A MONTH IS TOO LONG? I THEN WILL BE STARVING TO DEATH HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER OF APOLLO.
FIRST BETWEEN CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR'S? HAVE YOU? I MEAN, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET YOUR CAR FIXED. AND WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT THE BEST CANDIDATES THAT WE CAN FIND EVEN TO FILL THAT. LISTEN. THIS INTERIM POSITION IS VERY IMPORTANT POSITION. I JUST CAN'T STRESS IT ENOUGH. I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE MR BOSS. MAYBE YOU CAN SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL. YOUR CONVERSATION.
IF YOU THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE WITH CYNTHIA ANGELUS. MS ANGELES AND I HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK YET. OKAY? YOU SPOKE TO WHO DID YOU SPEAK TO? YOU SPOKE TO SOMEBODY FROM
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THEIR OFFICE, DIDN'T YOU? NOT YET. YOU AND I HAD YOU AND I HAD DISCUSSED IT. I SPOKE WITH WHO HAD SPOKEN WITH CYNTHIA ANGELA'S OKAY? ALL RIGHT, WELL, NO. YES, PLEASE. OKAY? I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE THE MISTAKES A MISTAKE MADE. YOU KNOW, UM. NO I MEAN IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPORTANT. YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE BEST CANDIDATE BETWEEN CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR'S. OKAY? I'LL JUST, UH I'LL REFRAIN AND I'LL TELL YOU I TOLD YOU SO LATER. I BELIEVE WE HAVE A. PUBLIC COMMENT. YES, MADAM, MA'AM. CAN I GO FIRST? OH I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T SEE HER NAME TAG. UH, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, COUNCILMAN. I THINK YOU FORGET TO REALIZE THAT THE NEXT ITEM WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON FINDING A PERMANENT MANAGER. THIS IS A TEMPORARY FIX. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO. PER LONG. THE GOAL WAS TO GET A PERMANENT MANAGER IN THIS SEAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO TRY NOT TO TREAT. THAT SITUATION THE SAME WAY AS IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THE PERMANENT MAJERTEN. WE GOT TO PUT ALL OUR FOCUS IN TRYING TO GET SOMEBODY IN THIS SEAT PERMANENTLY. THAT'S THE MAIN FOCUS HERE IS NOT TO TRY TO GET A TEMPORARY PERSON IN DECEIT , CORRECT BACK AND LOOK FOR A PERMANENT PERSON. WHY NOT JUST FOCUS ON THE PERMANENT PERSON? BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME TO FIND A PERMANENT PERSON. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE IT. TAKE 3456 MONTHS. WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE, OKAY? SO GOT TO GET IT RIGHT. SO IN THE MEANTIME, WE NEED THE RIGHT INTERIM. BECAUSE THE TRANSITION IS ESSENTIAL. CAN WE BOIL THIS INTO JUST ONE ITEM. FOR THE SECOND ITEM. NO WE'RE ALREADY STARTED ON THIS. LET'S GET THIS FINISHED AND LET'S GO ON. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. YES MADAM MAN, CAN'T SIMPKINS. FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS KENT SIMPKINS. UM I'M GONNA BE APPLYING FOR THE JOB. MEDIA ABOUT BACKGROUND. MY EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND IS MECHANICAL ENGINEERING AND BUSINESS. I HAVE STARTED 15 BUSINESSES IN MY CAREER. DEVELOPED THE FIRST MOBILE CARDIAC CATH LAB IN THE UNITED STATES. IT WENT OVER TO 48 COMMUNITIES FOR RURAL HEALTH CARE. SO I HAVE COUNTLESS HOURS OVER 21 YEARS OF CALLING ON COUNCILS IS SMALL RURAL CITIES. AND YOU TRY TO TAKE A MOBILE CARDIAC CATH LAB AND WORK ON SOMEBODY'S HEART IN THEIR COMMUNITY BASED HOSPITAL. DON'T YOU THINK I'VE BEEN KICKED OUT OF SOME DOORS BEFORE? I MEAN, BUT BUT LITERALLY BUILT AN ENTIRE BUSINESS. FOR 20. IT WAS 21 YEARS IN THAT COMPANY AND THAT ONE COULD GO THROUGH IN SOME STATES HAS CALLED A CERTIFICATE OF NEED WHERE THEY REALLY RUN YOU THROUGH THE INSTA GREEK, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT. IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER LAST COUNCIL MEETING. I'VE BEEN COMING TO HIM . YOU'RE APPROVED OVER A MILLION DOLLAR BID FOR THE ENGINEERING FIRM. MY FIRST JOB WHEN I WAS OUT OF SCHOOL. I DESIGNED THE BLOWING SYSTEMS. IT'S CALLED THE B O D. BIOLOGICAL OXYGEN DEMAND FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANS KIND OF MARRIAGE, SO I KNOW ABOUT WASTEWATER TREATMENT. BUT HE'S GOT HIS TIME. I HAD I'VE HAD OVER 120 EMPLOYEES, REGISTERED NURSES AND MY BUSINESS MANAGED TEAMS. AND I THINK, AND I LIVE WITHIN A QUARTER OF THE AMOUNT. I COULD START TOMORROW MORNING IF YOU NEED IT. LIKE TO GO TO NASHVILLE, WHERE I'M FROM FOR CHRISTMAS. BUT I MOVED HERE TO THIS TOWN BECAUSE I WANTED TO GET AWAY. I USED TO LIVE IN JUPITER AND ADMIRALS COVE. I WANTED TO BE IN A SMALL TOWN. I LOVE THIS TOWN. I DO ANYTHING TO HELP? SO I JUST WANTED TO LEAVE MY TWO CENTS. I'LL HAVE A RESUME . SUSAN KNOWS BECAUSE THEY'VE INTERVIEWED ME FOR TWO JOBS ALREADY, HOWARD SAID. I WAS OVERQUALIFIED. BUT ANYWAY, I'LL HAVE YOU PACK IT TOMORROW. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT. MADAM MAYOR, OKAY? SO THE MOTION BEFORE US IS TO OPEN. HEAVY A TWO WEEK PERIOD[00:50:13]
FOR APPLICATIONS THAT WILL GO THROUGH DECEMBER. THE 29TH AND THEN AT OUR JANUARY 12TH MEETING REGULAR MEETING WILL HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM. TO REVIEW THOSE. MADAM MAYOR IF I CAN CLARIFY ALSO TO KEEP SUSAN OWENS ON HIS INTERIM MANAGER UNTIL THAT IS DECIDED. THAT WAS A PART OF THE MOTION. OKAY? DO A ROLL CALL VOTE IF YOU WOULD PLAY ABSOLUTELY COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ YES. COUNCIL MEMBER TO PARLOR NO. COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. I'M SORRY.VERY SMEAR STONE. MAYOR GIBBS THOMAS. NO. MOST IMPASSES 3 TO 2. OKAY? SO THAT IS SET. NOW
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Village Manager Recruitment Process Options
]WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE VILLAGE MANAGER RECRUITMENT PROCESS OPTIONS. YES, SIR. PLEASE, CAN WE GET THIS BACK UP? BEFORE YOU MOVE ON TO THAT OTHER ITEM IN IN LIGHT OF THIS NOW WE'D LIKE TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION FOR STAFF AND MAKING THIS HAPPEN, OKAY? SO THE FACT THAT YOU ALL WILL BE RECEIVING RESUMES AND LETTERS OF INTEREST THROUGH DECEMBER. 29TH FOR CONSIDERATION AT THE JANUARY 12TH MEETING WILL GO AHEAD AND GET THAT OUT. UM BY VARIOUS MEANS. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO SHARING IT WITH FCC, EMMA AND THE FLORIDA LEGAL CITIES? I'M NOT SAYING ANY. UM WE'LL ALSO GET IT OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE WITH, UM WE CAN ADVISE REPORTER WITH TC PALM, SO MAYBE IT WILL BE IN A STORY. FOLKS WILL SEE IT ON OUR WEBSITE AND GET IT ON THE WEBSITE. YEAH AND PROBABLY GET IT. HOW QUICK DO YOU THINK WE COULD GET IT ADVERTISED? IT TAKES TIME TO GET THINGS IN THE PAPER ACTUALLY ADVERTISED THREE DAYS I'LL TELL YOU AS A PRACTICAL MATTER. ACTUALLY ADVERTISING THE LAW REQUIRES IT FOR SOME THINGS.IT'S NOT VERY USEFUL FOR HUMAN BEINGS ACTUALLY SEE IT, SO THAT'S I'M TRYING TO COME UP WITH PRACTICAL MEANS TO GET IT OUT, SO IT MAY NOT BE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY ADVERTISED WILL CONTACT TC PALM SO THAT HOPEFULLY AT LEAST THERE'S A STORY AND GET IT OUT THAT WAY, AND IT'LL BE ON THE VILLAGE WEBSITE AND ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON HOW TO GET IT OUT. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ADVISE STAFF SOCIAL MEDIA CONSTANT CONTACT. LET ME LET ME JUST THINK THROUGH AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED ANY MORE GUNS ON. THAT PIECE IS GONNA BE VERY SHORT AND SWEET. YEAH, GOOD. SO WHEN WOULD BE THE DEADLINE FOR THAT? FOR THEM TO SUBMIT. SOUNDED SOUNDED LIKE FROM THE MOTION YOUR DECEMBER 29TH WHICH WHICH I THINK ACTUALLY WORKS. I JUST CONFIRM WITH SUSAN THAT THE VILLAGE YEAH . VILLAGES ACTUALLY CLOSED ON THE 30TH SO THAT WORKS OUT WELL , IT'LL BE COMING UNTIL END OF BUSINESS ON THE 29TH COUNCIL AFTER AND THE BUSINESS WOULD BE RECEIVING THAT OR WHEN WOULD WOULD COUNSEL START RECEIVING THE SUBMITTAL. I CAN SEND THEM IMMEDIATELY OR I CAN SEND THEM ALL AT ONCE. WHATEVER THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS ARE WE OPEN ON A SECOND? ON THE SECOND. NOWHERE CLOSED. WOULD YOU LIKE THEM ALL? WOULD YOU WOULD YOU LIKE TO RECEIVE THEM ALL AT ONCE, OR ON A ROLLING BASIS AT ONCE? CAN THEY BE SENT JUST RIGHT AFTER CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON ABSOLUTELY AFTER CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON THE 29TH AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK ROLLS, UM THEY CAN BE SCANNED AND SENT OUT TO YOU ALL. COOL. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SO MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. RECRUITMENT PROCESS OPTIONS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THE COUNCIL HAS SEVERAL OPTIONS BEFORE THEM AS SOME OF YOU HAVE MENTIONED. ONE OF THEM IS APPLYING A FULL SERVICE FIRM TO HANDLE THE RECRUITMENT. THEY WILL HANDLE THE BACKGROUND CHECKS REACHING OUT TO CITY MANAGERS. THAT MAY NOT BE LOOKING FOR A JOB. THEY HAVE EXTENSIVE NETWORKS. UM, IT WILL COST SOME MONEY. I'VE GOT ONE PROPOSAL FOR $22,500. UM THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL CHARGES FOR LEVEL FOUR. BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS DEPENDS UPON HOW MANY CANDIDATES WE CHOOSE TO BACKGROUND CHECK, BUT THOSE ARE BELIEVE $400 OF IN THE BACKGROUND. BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY EXTENSIVE. UM THE OTHER OPTION IS WE CAN HANDLE THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS INTERNALLY. WE CAN DO A HYBRID METHOD WORKING WITH THE SENIOR ADVISERS WITH FCC M A.
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THEY DO NOT DO YOU RECRUITMENTS , BUT THEY DO ASSIST WITH RECRUITMENT AND THEY CAN HELP WITH THAT. THAT WOULD LOWER OUR COSTS CONSIDERABLY. AND THE FINAL OPTION IS TO EMPLOY AN INTERNAL CANDIDATE AND NOT ADVERTISE. AND ANY OTHER. METHODS THAT COUNCIL SO CHOOSES.OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES COUNCIL REMEMBER HERNANDEZ? YES SO WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS THE FIRST TIME, UM MR VOS, WHO DID THIS WASN'T IT? HAVE C CMA BECAUSE MR CLAYMAN WAS THE ONE THAT WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS OF VETTING AND GAVE US THE LAST TIME AROUND DAN KLEEMAN WITH FCC. EMMA IS A SENIOR ADVISOR WITH THEM, UH, FACILITATED THE PROCESS, AND THIS WAS MANY YEARS AGO NOW, SO I'M GOING TO DRAW MY BEST RECOLLECTION. UM MY RECOLLECTION IS, UM YOU ALL HAD PUT TOGETHER THE AH, THE EFFECTIVELY THE JOB DESCRIPTION. YOU KNOW EVERYTHING YOU'RE LOOKING FOR WHAT SORT OF CANDIDATE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, AND SO ON, AND THAT WAS ADVERTISED AND DISSEMINATED. EVERYTHING CAME INTO HIM, AND HE'S A RETIRED CITY MANAGER.
OKAY AND EVERYTHING CAME INTO HIM. AND MY RECOLLECTION WAS HE, UH TRYING TO REMEMBER. I THINK IT MAY HAVE BEEN HE? I DON'T THINK HE WITHHELD OR FAILED TO SEND ON ANY OF THEM THAT CAME IN , BUT HE WOULDN'T IT DOWN. YOU GOT ALL OF THEM, BUT HE WILLED IT DOWN TO THE ONES THAT THAT HE SAID. YOU SHOULD CONSIDER HE GAVE US A LESSON ALTERNATIVES BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW YOU WILL PROBABLY GET APPLICANTS YOU WILL END UP WITH APPLICANTS WHERE THEIR THEIR ONLY JOB EXPERIENCES WORKING AT CHICK FIL A. YES NO, I MEAN AND BEING A LINE COOK THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THAT THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU PASS ON ALL OF THEM. AND BUT SOME OF THEM YOU MIGHT JUST DISCLAIM. UM BUT HE GAVE HIS RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO THOSE YOU SHOULD CONSIDER, AND THEN ULTIMATELY HE ENDED UP BEING THE GO BETWEEN WITH, UM, WITH THOSE APPLICANTS TO ARRANGE THOSE FOLKS TO COME IN AND INTERVIEW WITH YOU ALL. AND THEN ULTIMATELY YOU ASKED HIM. TO WORK WITH ME TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT, WHICH ULTIMATELY CAME BACK TO YOU ALL FOR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL. THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION OF HOW IT WORKED WITH DAN. SO I WOULD LIKE SIMILAR THING TO HAPPEN. UM IF, UH, YOU WEREN'T HERE WHEN THAT HAPPENED. I THINK IT WAS A REALLY TRANSPARENT ACTUALLY, I DON'T THINK IT WAS A TRANSPARENT PROCESS. UM THE COUNCIL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY ON ON A ONE ON BASIS. IT LITERALLY WAS LIKE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SPACE, SO WE WERE LIKE ALL IT WAS A ONE DAY THING WHERE WE SAT THERE, AND WE INTERVIEWED EACH CANDIDATE. AND THEN AFTER THAT, UM THEY MET WITH THE STAFF AND THE STAFF HAD A FEELING AND, ADDITIONALLY TO THAT, UM, THE PUBLIC HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MINGLE WITH THE POSSIBLE CANDIDATES, AND THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AFTER THAT. TO TALK TO THE COUNCIL AND TELE TOLD THE COUNCIL WHAT THEY FELT AND WHO THEY FELT SHOULD WE SELECTED SO THAT WAS A REALLY TRANSPARENT, UM, PROCESS AND I REALLY WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN . UM BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU I REMEMBER GOING THROUGH EACH RESUME. AND I UNDERSTOOD WHY, MR CLAYMAN? PICKED THE ONES HE PICKED. UM BUT HE DIDN'T DO IT IN A CERTAIN RANKING. HE JUST LISTED THEM AND HE GAVE US ALTERNATES AND DEPENDING ON THE COUNCIL, WHAT WE WANTED IF WE WANTED AN INTERVIEW ALTERNATIVES OR JUST THE FIRST ONE THAT HE HAD LISTED SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE AGENCIES THAT THAT DO THIS, BUT THEY CHARGE AND I DON'T THINK THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN ISN'T ANY POSITION IN REGARDS OF SPENDING ANY MORE MONEY IN REGARDS OF THIS, SO I THINK THAT IF THE SERVICE IS ALREADY THERE.
WE ALREADY HAVE MEMBERSHIP WITH FC M. FCC M A. WE SHOULD TAKE IT AND HAVE, UH, SOMEONE THAT HAS EXPERIENCED GO THROUGH THE RESUMES AND BRING US UM THE, UM THE. THE LIST OF CANADA'S POSSIBLE CANDIDATES. THAT WOULD BE GOOD FIT FOR ANY ANTON. PROBABLY THE ONLY THING WE SHOULD DO IS SEE IF THE PROFILE FOR OUR CITY MANAGER HAS CHANGED. UM IF. BECAUSE WE HAVE A DIFFERENT COUNSEL, SO THAT WOULD BE SENDING IT OFF TO EVERYONE TO SEE IF THEY WANTED
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TO SEE ANY CHANGES. UM BUT I THINK DOING THAT PROCESS IT WAS A REALLY NICE FLOWING, TRANSPARENT PROCESS. AND, UM, THE. THE RESIDENTS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUSINESS OWNERS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THESE CANDIDATES, AND THEY REALLY LOVED THAT WHOLE PROCESS.THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? AND PUT. I THINK WE SHOULD GO WITH A HEADHUNTER. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE LISTEN, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. OKAY, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT POSITION.
SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO MAKE OUR VILLAGE GROW. SOMEONE WHO HAS EXPERIENCE. MAYBE IT'S DONE IT BEFORE. LET'S BUILD SOMETHING. MAYBE IT'S SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN IN PRIVATE. INDUSTRY AND A LOT OF SMART PEOPLE OUT THERE. UM. SO AGAIN, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR, SO I THINK WE OUGHT TO GO WITH THE HEADHUNTER. ASK HIM FOR THE TOP FIVE. TOP SIX. AND WE CAN GO THROUGH THOSE PEOPLE. AND IF THERE'S NOBODY THAT WE LIKE, WELL, KEEP ON GOING AS FOR ANOTHER FIVE OR SIX UM SO WE FIND THE RIGHT PERSON. YEAH. SO I GOT. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. IF WE GO AHEAD WITH THE HEADHUNTER, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR HAVE MR FLOREAL COME UP AND SEE IF WE DO HAVE A 22,000 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT BUDGET. SO UM, WE EITHER HAVE SEE WHERE WE TAKE IT OUT, OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO THE 26,000 THAT WE PREVIOUSLY OUR LAST COUNCIL GAVE HER FIREWORKS USE THAT FOR RECRUITMENT, WHICH THIS IS MUCH MORE ESSENTIAL. HMM. ANYBODY ELSE? UM. AND THIS IS DEAR DISCUSSION. THERE IS NOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR CORRECT. BUT THE MAN, THANK YOU. OKAY? UM. MY TAKE ON THIS, HAVING GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS THE VERY FIRST TIME. IT IS. I. I AM LEANING AND WOULD PREFER IT TO BE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE CORRECT TERMINATE MORE BUSINESSLIKE. WHEN YOU HAVE A COMPANY. THAT'S THAT'S THEIR BUSINESSES GO OUT AND FIND PERSON. THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND THEY HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL THE MEANS. TO LOOK FOR. THE RIGHT PERSON TO APPROACH PEOPLE. THAT MAY NOT JUST BE IN THAT POOL OF PEOPLE THAT ARE RETIRED OR CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE A JOB IN HER LOOKING OR LOOKING TO CHANGE. THEY HAVE THE UM, EXPERIENCE. TWO. TAKE WHAT WE WANT. AND I THINK WE NEED TO OPEN UP THAT A LITTLE BIT. YEAH AND REVIEW THAT EXACTLY WHAT OUR WISH LIST IS. AND I THINK WE IT IS TRUE. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. AND SO IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE AT THE JANUARY. 12TH MEETING. THAT, UM WE GET A UPDATE FROM MR FLORIO. TO SEE IF WHAT. I MEAN, THAT GIVES HIM SOME TIME TO LOOK THROUGH. AND MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO.
AND, UM. YES SIR. YOU WERE FIRST MADAM MAYOR. IF IT'S OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
SURE. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE USE THE FLORIDA CITY AND COUNTY MANAGER ASSOCIATION TO HELP US FIND A CANDIDATE. THEY HAVE ACCESS TO MORE THAN JUST RETIREE OR PEOPLE THAT'S IN BETWEEN JOBS. AND THEY'RE GONNA ALSO POSTED SO IF THEY CAN DO IT FOR FREE, AND I THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB THE LAST TIME SO WHY NOT? OKAY SO WE HAVE EMOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? THAT MOTION? OKAY SO ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THAT? COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ.
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YES AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC KNEW THAT WHAT FCC M A MS VICE, MERE STONE ALREADY MENTIONED FLORIDA CITY COUNTY MANAGERIAL ASSOCIATION, BECAUSE ASSOCIATION THESE ARE COUNTY. UM ADMINISTRATORS CITY. ADMINISTRATORS CITY VILLAGES, TOWNS, ADMINISTRATORS, AND THEY HAVE A HUGE NETWORK THAT GOES NATIONAL. UM, THESE PEOPLE. HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERIENCE HAVE DONE THIS FOR YEARS, AND MR JUST TO MENTION MR KLAYMAN IS, UH, RETIRED, UM, CITY MANAGER THAT CAME HERE AND HELPED US THROUGH THE FIRST PROCESS. UM AND HE IS KNOWN HE ACTUALLY HAS A BUILDING NAMED AFTER HIM. UM SO JUST RESEARCH UM, F C N C M A AND I C M A BECAUSE I KNOW DEFINITELY WE WILL FIND THE PERSON THROUGH THAT. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY YOU SPEND IF YOU WILL SPEND ZERO IF YOU SPEND 22,000. YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO FIND SOMEONE WITH CITY. EXPERIENCE OR A COUNTY EXPERIENCE SOMETHING IN GOVERNMENTAL EXPERIENCE. UM AND I JUST. I JUST ECHO EVERYTHING THAT, UM YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD PEOPLE COME UP TO ME. IN REGARDS OF THAT WORK IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND THEY'RE WATCHING. SO I JUST I KNOW THAT. THIS AGENCY WOULD DO THE WORK THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY. UM SO. I THINK THIS IS THE WAY WE SHOULD DO IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYMORE COUNCIL. COMMENTS. SAYING NO MORE COUNCIL COMMENT. UM DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO MATTER, MAN. OKAY SO WE HAVE A MOTION. IT'S BEEN SECONDED. ROLL CALL. VOTE, PLEASE. ABSOLUTELY.SURE WE BRING THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE I SEE BOTH SIDES. BUT CAN I HAVE TIME TO RESEARCH BOTH SIDES AND SEE WHICH ONE IS DO WE GO AND PAY? WELL, IF WE TAKE A VOTE LET YOUR VOTE REFLECT. WHETHER YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS OR YOU DON'T OKAY? OKAY? BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S THE POINT WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS THAT THAT SO IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLACE? ABSOLUTELY. THAT POINT GO AHEAD, SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ YES, COUNCIL MEMBER OF APOLLO NO. COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ. VICE MAYOR STONE. MARY GIVES THOMAS ALISON FAILS THROUGH. TOO OKAY? SO THAT MOTION FAILED. DO WE WANT A FURTHER MOTION OR DO WE WANT TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE JANUARY THE 12TH? TO GIVE TIME TO CONSIDER IN TIME TO YES , COUNCIL MEMBER. COULD WE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA? ON JANUARY 12TH. SO IT GIVES US TIME TO RESEARCH. BOTH OPTIONS OPTIONS.
UM, DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON THAT? YES. SURE. OKAY? OKAY SO THIS ITEM WILL BRING BACK JANUARY. THE 12TH. AND SEEING HOW THAT IS EVERYTHING ON OUR AGENDA ANNOUNCEMENTS. EVERYBODY
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HAVE AN AWESOME HOLIDAY SEASON AND WE WILL SEE YOU ON JANUARY THE 12TH AT 6 30 PM MAYOR. I APOLOGIZE REAL REAL QUICKLY. YES, SIR. UM CAN I SUGGEST WE CAN ALSO TRACK DOWN WHAT HAD BEEN THE JOB DESCRIPTION? YES, SIR. PLEASE THAT THE COUNCIL HAS SENT OUT MANY YEARS AGO NOW SHARE IT WITH THE COUNCIL. SO THAT AT THE 12, YOU'LL HAVE THE VIEW THAT REVIEW THAT EXCELLENT POINT. THANK YOU SO MUCH* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.