Sep 08, 2022 Regular Meeting

[CALL TO ORDER]

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ADMINISTRATIVELY CALLED THIS MEETING TO ORDER OF THE INDIAN TOWN VILLAGE COUNCIL AT 6 39. PM MADAM CLERK. PLEASE HAVE A ROLL CALL. COUNCIL MEMBER GIVES THOMAS HERE COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ HERE COUNCIL MEMBER STONE COUNCIL MEMBER DI PAOLA PEREZ HERE PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND I BELIEVE I'VE COERCED VOLUNTEER. WHO IS THAT? WITH ME FOR A MOMENT. KEVIN FATHER. TODAY AND FOR YOUR GUIDANCE. WISDOM AND SUPPORT AS WE CAN IN THIS MEETING. HELP US TO ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION. ALLOWS TO GO CLOSER AS A GROUP. ADVENTURE. VILLAS WITH YOUR GRACE. LORD GOD MAKE DECISIONS THAT MIGHT AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY AND CONTINUE TO REMIND US THAT WE WHAT WE DO HERE TODAY THAT WE ARE COMPLICIT PURSUIT OF THE TRUTH. FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF YOUTH AND FOR THE SERVICE OF THIS COMMUNITY. WE PRAY ALSO FOR TRAVELING MERCIES AS WE LEAVE THIS PLACE AND GO BACK TO OUR HOME. WE ACTUALLY THINGS IN YOUR PRECIOUS HOLY NAME. AMEN AMEN.

QUESTION. PLEASURE ALLEGIANCE. RECOVER FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD. VISIBLE.

TOGETHER. COULD YOU DO ME A FAVOR AND GOOD COUNCIL MEMBERS? GOOD EVENING. ONCE AGAIN. I'M WEIGHED BOTH THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY. I'LL BE ADMINISTRATIVELY RUNNING THIS MEETING FOR A VERY SHORT TIME. HOPEFULLY UH, WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED. NOW WE HAVE IT LISTED ON THE AGENDA UNDER ADDITIONS TO LOCATIONS, PULLED ITEMS AND OTHER MODIFICATIONS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO FIRST THE SELECTION OF MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR AND THEN PROCEED DOWN THE REST THERE. SO

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Selection of Mayor

COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILWOMAN. SUSAN GIBBS, THOMAS. THE MAYOR AND I'LL SECOND THAT ALRIGHT, FLOORS BEEN OPEN FOR NOMINATIONS, AND THERE HAS BEEN A NOMINATION AND THERE'S BEEN A SECOND. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER NOMINATIONS? HEARING NO FURTHER ON NOMINATIONS IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION WILL CLOSE NOMINATIONS. HEARING NO OBJECTION. NOMINATIONS ARE CLOSED, WOULD ENTERTAIN THAT THIS TIME A MOTION TO APPROVE COUNCIL MEMBER SUSAN GIBBS, TOMAS'S MAYOR. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A SECOND SUMMONS HIS MAYOR. ZERO SECOND SECOND, ALRIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE. MADAM CLERK COUNCIL MEMBER GIVES THOMAS I COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ YES, COUNCIL MEMBER STONE COUNCIL MEMBER. DIPAOLA YES. COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ? YES. AMERICAN GRADUATIONS. I CAN GO BACK TO BEING VILLAGE ATTORNEY. RIGHT? AFTER VICE MAYOR OKAY, THANK YOU. CLARIFICATION IS ALWAYS GOOD. SO WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND DO VICE MAYOR BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GO INTO THE AGENDA.

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Selection of Vice Mayor

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NEW WATER BOTTLE. OH, OKAY? IF EVERYBODY WILL JUST INDULGE ME JUST A MOMENT.

WELCOME EVERYBODY. JUST A FEW THINGS BEFORE WE REALLY GET STARTED HERE. MAKE SURE YOUR CELL PHONES ARE OFF. YOUR BATHROOMS ARE TO YOUR LEFT. YOU'RE EXITS ARE DEFINED HERE ON YOUR RIGHT AND ALSO IN THE LEFT. UM. ALSO WHEN IT COMES TO CIVILITY WHEN YOU DO SPEAK THERE IS WE DO HAVE A CIVILITY. UM, CLAUSE HERE. BUT PLEASE, WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR COMMENTS DO NOT MAKE THEM PERSONAL. AND OUR FIRST ORDER IS ADDITIONS, DELETIONS PULLED ITEMS OR OTHER

[ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, PULLED ITEMS OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS]

ALSO DO AN ADDITION TO HIGHLIGHT AN ITEM 17 FOR DISCUSSION. ON WEEKLY COUNCIL MEMBERS MEETING WITH THE VILLAGE MANAGER. IT SHOULD BE A QUICK EFFICIENT ITEM. ANY OTHERS. IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THOSE OKAY? MADAM MAYOR. DID YOU WANT TO DO THE EMAIL ITEM BEFORE WE GO TO PROCLAMATIONS, AWARDS AND SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS? OR DID YOU WANT TO UNDER REGULAR AGENDA? LET'S LET'S DO IT UNDER REGULAR, OKAY? DO YOU WANT HER AT THE BEGINNING OR THE END? IT'S YOUR PLEASURE. LET'S DO IT AT THE AT THE BEGINNING, OK? OKAY? OURSELVES ORIENTED HERE.

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Proclaiming September 15 to October 15, 2022, as Hispanic Heritage Month in the Village of Indiantown.

AND NOW THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER, UH , GUATEMALAN AMERICAN ON A COUNCIL I WANTED TO HURT TO ALSO ACCEPTED WITH ME. UM, SO WE CAN TAKE A PICTURE WITH THE MADAM MAYOR. OKAY? AND WE HAVE THAT PROCLAMATION. AND JUST QUICKLY. I JUST WANTED TO, UH, YOU KNOW. I THINK ALL THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS THE CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE HISPANIC THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS AND HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS COMMUNITY, UM, BECAUSE THEY WORK HARD DAY AND NIGHT AND , UM, IF IT WEREN'T FOR THEM, YOU KNOW WE WOULDN'T BE HERE. SO THANK YOU. WE DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL PROCLAMATION BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS MAYOR. WE HAVE A COVER. YEAH, WE HAVE SOMETHING. BUSINESS. THE OTHER ONE JUST HOLD UP. YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT IN THE CAMERA.

THE MURDERS.

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Proclaiming September 2022 as Hunger Action Month in the Village of Indiantown

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THEREFORE SUSAN GIBBS THOMAS, MAYOR OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, DOES HEREBY. BROOKE CLAIMS SEPTEMBER 2022 IT'S HUNGER ACTION MONTH IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, FLORIDA ENCOURAGES ALL RESIDENTS TO JOIN HER IN THE VILLAGE COUNCIL AND THE CELEBRATION WITNESS WERE OF SHE HAS HAIR ON TO SET HER HAND AND CAUSES CL THE VILLAGE OF ANY TOWN, FLORIDA TO BE AFFIXES EIGHTH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2022. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE TO ACCEPT? THE HUNGER. THE TREASURE. COAST FOOD BANK REPRESENTATIVES THEY'RE NOT PRESENT. OKAY THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE WITH THE SEVERAL REPRESENTATIVES. OKAY SO WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU KNOW, WE

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Proclaiming September 2022 as Suicide Prevention and Awareness Month in the Village of Indiantown.

SO THE PART OF THE PROCLAMATION WAS MENTIONING THE 988 NUMBER. MAYBE YOU'VE SEEN THAT IN THE NEWS. 988 IS THE NEW EASY TO REMEMBER NUMBER THAT U. S CONGRESS INSTITUTED STARTING IN JULY OF THIS YEAR. UM, AND THOSE CALLS ARE THE SAME NUMBER THAT GOES TO THE NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION HOTLINE. GOES TO 988 ALSO GOES TO 211. SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S ALL OF THE SAME IN THIS AREA. WE ALL HANDLE ALL OF THOSE CALLS. ALL AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE TOO, THAT ALL OF THE

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OH, YES, PLEASE.

NO OH, ONE GOOD. ITEM NUMBER SIX. MONKEYPOX UPDATE BY CAROL AND VATANA THE FLORIDA

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Monkeypox Update by Carol-Ann Vitani, Florida Department of Health

IT'S 7 20,733 CASES. OKAY. NEXT SLIDE. SO WHEN THE OUTBREAK STARTED, UM WE WERE WE WERE DOING SOME RESEARCH ABOUT IT. BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING COMMONLY FOUND HERE. UM AND WE DID AN EXTENSIVE OUTREACH TO OUR HEALTHCARE PARTNERS, UM, MAKING THEM AWARE OF THIS POTENTIAL. UH NEW MONKEY POX THAT HAS BEEN WITH WHAT WE WERE HEARING ABOUT OVERSEAS SO PREVIOUSLY OUTBREAKS IN THE UNITED STATES THEY WERE REALLY INFECTED. WE FOUND THAT THEY WERE WERE PRAIRIE DOGS THAT WERE INFECTED WITH THIS MONKEY PARTS . UM IN AND SINCE MAY AND 2022.

WE NOTICED THAT THERE HAS BEEN REPORTED SEVERAL CASES OUTSIDE CLUSTERS. OUTSIDE OF AFRICA. THE OTHER THING THAT STARTED SHOULD NOTICE WHERE THERE WAS THERE WAS A RISE IN THE CASES. AMONG EM, SM SAT IS MALES WHO HAVE SEX WITH MALES AND OTHER SOME OTHER HIGH RISK. UH, POPULATION

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INITIALLY IT LOOKS LIKE A BLISTER AND THEN THE SECOND SIDE ON THE ON THE TOP. IT LOOKS ALMOST LIKE A LITTLE POSTURAL. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS? IS IT FORMS A SKIP, AND IT'S SIMILAR IN LOOKING AT MANY TIMES WITH CHICKENPOX, BUT WE CHOOSE THE BOX THE DIFFERENCES. YOU HAVE THE LITTLE BLISTERS THAT COME UP RIGHT AWAY, AND THEN THEY DO SCABBING. SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A DIFFERENCE IN THE TYPES OF RASHES THAT ARE SHOWN. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. TRANSMISSION AGAIN, NOT EASILY TRANSMITTED. THE INFECTIOUS ONSET OF IS WHEN IT THE SYMPTOMS ARE PRESENT AGAIN. ALL THOSE FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE LEASH ING'S. THEY CROSSED OVER A SEPARATE AND THEN A FRESH LAYER OF HEALTHY SKIN FORMS UNDERNEATH. MODES OF TRANSMISSION. MOSTLY, IT'S WITH DIRECT CONTACT WITH BODILY FLUIDS AND ALSO CONTACT WITH THE LESION THE MATERIAL FROM THE LESIONS LIKE THE FLUID FROM THE LESIONS, UM, INFECTED MATERIALS AGAIN. YOU WOULD HAVE SOME EXAMPLES DOWN THERE. YOU'LL SEE SHARED TOWELS AND BEDDING. UM RESPIRATORY DROPLETS. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE VERY CLOSE AND PROLONGED CONTACT. UNLIKE COVID AH, YOU YOU YOU NEED TO BE AROUND THAT FOR, LIKE AT LEAST THREE HOURS, UM, WITH SOMEONE CLOSE CONTACT WITHOUT USING ANY TYPE OF PREVENTION MEASURES SUCH AS URINE, 90 FIVE'S IN YOUR IN YOUR EYE PROTECTION, ETCETERA. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OKAY HOW DO WE TEST FOR THIS? SO HOW THIS IS TEST AND YOU MAY HAVE HEARD AGAIN WITH THE PCR TESTING PCR TESTING ON LIKE WITH COVID THAT WAS A NASAL SWAMPING OR THROAT SWAMPING. THIS ONE IS YOU ACTUALLY SWAB THE LESIONS AND YOU HAVE TO. IT'S A TWO STEP PROCESS. SO YOU YOU SWAP THE LESIONS TWICE IN TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. THERE IS ANTIVIRAL TREATMENT, WHICH IS AVAILABLE WHEN YOU MAY HAVE HEARD CALLED T POX. UM, VACCINATION. OCEANS, OF COURSE, ARE AVAILABLE. FOR HIGH RISK INDIVIDUALS AND THOSE WHO HAVEN'T KNOWN EXPOSURE TO SOMEONE WITH MONKEY PARTS BEFORE YOU CAN CALL US HERE AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AT 2 TO 1 4000 , AND IT'S OPTION THREE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO WE NEED TO COCKLE DISEASE AND HEPATITIS SAYING WE ALL KNOW ABOUT HEPATITIS A AND MANY OF YOU MAY EVEN BE AWARE OF MANY MENINGITIS . YOU MAY HEAR MANY DIGITAL COCKER DISEASE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OKAY SO I'M GONNA MENINGITIS. UM CAUSES AN INFLAMMATION OF THE LINING OF THE BRAIN AND THE SPINAL. COREY IS A BACTERIAL TYPE INFECTION. IT SPREADS EASILY TO RESPIRATORY AND THROAT SECRETIONS. UM IT CAN BE DETRIMENTAL TO, UH IF IT'S NOT DIAGNOSED. EARLY TREATMENT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR MANY OF OUR COLLEGE STUDENTS. AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE COLLEGES REQUIRE VACCINATION. AGAINST MENINGITIS , UM, AGAIN BECAUSE STUDENTS WHO FIND ARE IN CLOSE QUARTERS

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AGAIN HEPATITIS A. THERE IS A VACCINE IS THAT OBVIOUSLY THE BEST WAY TO PREVENT THE INFECTION? NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO AS I JUST SAID VACCINATION FOR HAVE A MENINGITIS DISEASE, ALL PREVENTABLE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND YOU SPEAK WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER ABOUT WHICH VACCINES ARE BEST FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY . UM AND ITS COURSE VACCINES ARE AVAILABLE HERE. LOCAL PHARMACIES IN YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND OF COURSE, ANY INFORMATION RESOURCE IS PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL US ANYTIME YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNED? ANYTHING UM, ARE NUMBERS LISTED. THERE ARE WEBSITE IS THAT WE W. MARTIN COUNTY HEALTH .COM AND, OF COURSE, YOU CAN FOLLOW US ON TWITTER AS WELL. SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IF WE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF THEM THANK YOU, MR KITTANI. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US THAT INFORMATION. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR THE INVITATION. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. ADOPT A ROAD PROGRAM PRESENTATION BY MS PHYLLIS

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Adopt-A-Road Program Presentation by Ms. Phyllis Brown

BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT AND ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP AND WITH WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY WITH OUR CITIZENS ESCAPED HOLDERS. STAKEHOLDERS BUSINESS, MARTIN COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. IN WESTERN ALABAMA IS. INDIAN TOWN S ME INDIAN TOWN. OUR MOTTO IS, ALTHOUGH I MAY NOT BE MY BROTHER'S KEEPER, I AM MY BROTHER'S BROTHER. AND BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN GIVEN MUCH, I TOO MUST GIVE. THAT WAS MY JEFFREY HOLLAND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE PLAN TO DO. EMERGENCY PREPARATION ASSISTANCE LIKE SHATTER PLACEMENT, UM, TO BE PUT UP. ADOPTION AND OWNERSHIP OF EVERY STREET. WE WANT YOU TO ADOPT AND TAKE ON THE STREET OWNERSHIP OF THE STREET IN WHICH YOU LIVE. LAWN CARE, MOWING AND EDGING. DEVELOPING YOUTH FOR LEADERSHIP OF TOMORROW. WE WANT TO CLEAN UP EVERY OTHER MONTH. THE STREETS. COLLABORATE WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT FOR TRASH RECEPTACLES OUTSIDE OF THE HOME MINOR REPAIRS. COLLABORATION WITH PROPERTY MANAGERS FOR THE LANDLORD. TRAINING OF POTENTIAL HOME OWNERS FOR THE VALUE OF MAINTAINING AND THE UPKEEP OF THEIR PROPERTY. WE WANT TO EDUCATE BY EXAMPLE ON HOW TO

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WHERE MEETING COMMENTS. WE HAVE TO GIVE YOU A HAND OUTS WERE MEETING TO PLACE IS THE SAME AS LAST YEAR, ONE AT THE CIVIC CENTER AND ONE AT PARKS AND REC PARK, WHICH WAS THE OLD UM, FIREPLACE FIRE STATION. VICE MAYOR STONE. YES. SO WHEN I FIRST HEARD OF THIS HMM. IT'S NOT EVEN OUR, UH, WHEN I FIRST, UH SAW THIS SUNDAY AGENDA. MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS HOW IS IT THAT THE VILLAGE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH THE PROGRAM? LIKE, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND HELP? ACTUALLY THROUGH SO SORRY. ACTUALLY, THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS. IF THERE IS A STREET IN THE VILLAGE. HOW DO YOU. COMPLIANCE GOES DOWN THE STREET.

THEY FIND SOMETHING THAT'S WRONG. RATHER THAN GIVE THEM A TICKET OR FIND THEM. LET US KNOW AND SEE IF WE CAN HELP THEM. YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO HELP SOMEONE ELSE THAT WE DID NOT SEE. LET US KNOW. FAIR ENOUGH SOUNDS SIMPLE. IT'S NOT SIMPLE, BUT IT DOES SOUND SIMPLE.

ADOPTED STREET. UM. MARTIN COUNTY HAS AN ADOPTED STREET PROGRAM, BUT IT'S ONLY FOR THE COUNTY STREETS. RIGHT WE HAVE STREETS OF OUR OWN THAT NEED TO BE ADOPTED IN LOVE. WE WANT TO GO DOWN THE STREET AND EVERY QUARTER WE DO A BEAUTIFICATION. SO YOU GIVE THEM A PLAQUE FOR THE BEST HOME ON THAT STREET, AND THAT STAYS THERE WITH THEM AND A GIFT CERTIFICATE. DOWN A LARGE GIFT CERTIFICATE, BUT IT'S RECOGNITION THAT YOU DID AWESOME JOB. OKAY UM, SO I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO WORK OUT LIKE ALL THE LOGISTICS ABOUT IT , SO I GUESS YOU WOULD PROBABLY GET WHICH STAFF AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT THAT PART OF IT. AS FAR AS EXACTLY HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE INVOLVED, BE ABLE TO HELP YOU. I'LL GIVE YOU A LONG LIST.

GIVE ME TILL TUESDAY. I GOT YOU COVERED. YOU JUST SAY YES, OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE BEING A 5013 C ORGANIZATION THAT TAKES ABOUT 4 TO 6 WEEKS. OH SO RELATIVELY QUICK. YES. OKAY, GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DO ? YES, MA'AM. GREAT IDEA BACK.

UM I WANT TO SAY THERE WAS A SISTER TERESA, WHO USED TO DO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I THINK WE NEED TO GET MORE INVOLVED. HELP US CLEAN UP OUR STREETS BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT KNOW WHY THEY HAVE ALL THIS TRASH AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND. THAT'S NOT MAKING THE HOUSE LOOK GOOD, BUT I THINK YOUR IDEAS SO GREAT. LET ME KNOW HOW I CAN HELP BECAUSE I'M WILLING TO HELP. GOOD. THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S ALSO A CULTURAL ISSUE. YOU DON'T. IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN YOU LIVE IN EUROPE AND YOU DRIVE AS AN AMERICAN ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROAD, THEN YOU SAY WHILE THEY'RE DRIVING ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD, WELL, WHAT MAKES IT THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD, RIGHT? YOU SO WE HAVE TO TEACH PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES, OTHER CULTURES WHAT WE EXPECT WE HAVE TO TEACH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING HERE WHAT WE EXPECT AND HOW WE TREAT OUR TOWN. THE WAY YOU DO IS THE WAY THEY DO. YOU THROW TRASH THE ULTRA TRASH YOU PICK UP, THEY'LL PICK UP YOU DO NOTHING. THEY'LL DO NOTHING. SO THAT IS A HUGE PORTION OF IT IS THE EDUCATION AND IT IS EDUCATION AND VOLUNTEERING. ABSOLUTELY AND DO SOMETHING INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT IT, GET UP AND DO SOMETHING. ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE WORKING THAT OUT. THIS IS PROPOSAL OF WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO AND HOW WE THINK IT WOULD BETTER THE VILLAGE AND INDIAN TOWN AS A WHOLE BECAUSE OF TRASH IS AN

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[PUBLIC COMMENT (3 MINUTES EACH)]

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HE'S OUR PRINCIPAL MYSELF. BERNSTEIN WILLIAMS. I AM THE UM, E S C SUPPORT FACILITATOR AS WELL AS THE S G. A PRESIDENT AND ORGANIZER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS JOSH CALLUM. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. WELCOME MR KELLUM. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, MR VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEWLY ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND I WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN JACKIE CLARKE FOR BEING AN ADVOCATE FOR OUR PROJECT SINCE THE BEGINNING, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. UM, I WANTED TO STAND IN FRONT OF YOU ALL, UH, TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT UPDATE. BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, UM MISS BROWN. I WAS REALLY MOVED BY, UM WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY, SO WE AS A COMPANY WOULD LOVE TO HELP FUND WILL GIVE AN INITIAL $5000 TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING. UM THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT TO PARTICIPATE IN YOUR LAST COMMUNITY CLEAN UP AND THAT WAS PRETTY AWESOME. SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND WHEN YOU WANNA START ADOPTING STREETS, I HAVE ONE IN MIND THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADOPT FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR HEART. UH, AND RENAME A STREET SO LOVE TO TALK WITH YOU AND DETAILS ABOUT THAT POWERS FAMILY HAS BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN THIS COMMUNITY AND WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMETHING NAMED AFTER AFTER THEM. I KNOW THAT THEIR FATHER AND MOTHER WERE VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN WHAT WE SEE TODAY, SO UM, SORRY TO SIDEBAR OFF OF THAT, BUT I GOT TO HEAR THAT AND KIND OF CHANGED MY THOUGHT PROCESS. UM SO MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT AND COUNCILWOMAN AND VICE MAYOR FOR GETTING US TO FINALLY WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR TERRA LAGO COMMUNITY. WE HAVE FINALLY RECEIVED OUR LAST PERMIT FROM THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. FINALLY, RP PERMIT. AND SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AND FINAL PREPARATIONS TO BREAK GROUND ON THE TERRA LAGO COMMUNITY. PHASE ONE A.

WHAT YOU ALL WERE A PART OF PASSING AND NEWLY ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. THERE'S MANY PHASES TO THIS COMMUNITY. UM, SO OR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. IT'S GOING TO BRING WHAT WE HAVE HEARD SINCE DAY ONE AND IN COMING OUT HERE AND REALLY GETTING INVOLVED IS THAT THERE'S A HOUSING CRISIS HERE, AND WE DO NOT HAVE A PLACE TO PUT OUR PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE AND INDIAN TOWN WHETHER THEIR NUMBER OF FAMILIES IN ONE HOUSE OR THERE'S FAMILIES LOOKING TO MOVE INTO A NEW FACILITY OR A NEW HOME, AND THAT'S WHAT WE STAND IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY, AS WE HAVE FROM FROM DAY ONE TO DO THAT, SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY BREAKING GROUND IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ECONOMIC TIMES AND INCREASED COSTS WERE REALLY WORKING DILIGENTLY BECAUSE OUR GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, DELIVER ON WHAT WE COMMITTED TO DELIVER ON AND THAT IS ATTAINABLE HOMES FOR MEMBERS OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN. YOUR LOCAL BANKS AND COMMUNITIES HAVE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE USDA LOAN PROGRAMS. A LOT OF EXCITEMENT OUR PHONES HAVE BEEN BLOWING UP WITH RESERVATIONS FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO MOVE INTO HOMES, WHICH IS EXTREMELY EXCITING FOR US, AND I TOLD SOMEBODY THAT TODAY I SAID, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT. UM THERE IS A THERE IS A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE WITHIN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN THAT WANT TO MOVE INTO THESE HOMES, SO I KNOW MY TIME IS UP. BUT I THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I THINK TO YOUR STAFF, YOUR STAFF HAS BEEN AMAZING TO WORK WITH IN ALL ASPECTS, SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE AND EXCITED TO GREET NEW COUNCIL. THANK YOU. OKAY? MADAM CLERK. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. THAT IS ALL. MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[COMMENTS BY VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS]

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THAT. THE RESIDENTS OF BUDDHA PARK HAVE AND THE SECOND THING IS, UM, CONCERNING ABOUT THE SHOOTING. THE CF PRIVATE PROPERTY AND BLOCK PARTIES. UM SO JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION OR DURING THIS MEETING OR THE NEXT MEETING, HOWEVER, THE PLEASURE TO COUNCIL THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MOVING ON COUNCIL MEMBER APOLLO ANY COMMENTS. NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS, BUT I THINK I'VE MET WITH ALL THE STAFF AND, UH I THINK I'VE BEEN BROUGHT UP TO SPEED ON EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON SO TRYING TO SPEND MY WEEK LAST WEEK GOING WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD PEOPLE, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL. THANK YOU. AH COUNCILWOMAN PEREZ. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT, AND I HAVE NO OTHER COMMENTS. VICE MAYOR STONE. YES I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT. AND CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR NEW MAYOR. AND ALSO WELCOME ABOARD.

COUNCILMAN APOLLO AND COUNCILMAN PEREZ. IT'S GONNA BE A JOURNEY. UH IT'S NOT GONNA BE EASY.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE PULL YOU LEFT AND RIGHT. AH MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU IS MAKE SURE YOU'RE MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION THAT YOU CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT WITH THANK YOU. AH! WELCOME. THANK YOU APPRECIATE, UH, THIS. COUNCIL GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AGAIN.

APPRECIATE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY STEPPING UP. AND PARTNERING WITH US. THAT'S WHAT I SAID YESTERDAY AND ARE SWEARING IN. WE NEED YOU. WE'VE GOT TO HAVE YOU IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD. AND TO, UH MAKE THINGS BETTER. WITH THAT BEING SAID. CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYBODY THAT'S SITTING UP HERE. I ECHO VICE MAYOR STONE'S COMMENTS. HANG ON, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE A RIDE. SO MOVING OUT. IS THERE ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS? NO COMMITTEE REPORTS. MOVING ON TO

[COMMENTS BY VILLAGE MANAGER]

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[APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]

[CONSENT AGENDA]

SOME OF YOU HAVE ALREADY UH, ATTENDED IMO AND WHAT IT IS. IT'S NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIALS TRAINING AND IT PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT ACCOUNTS MEMBERS ROLES. RESPONSIBILITIES ARE WITH RESPECT TO THEIR POSITION. AND SO WE ALREADY MADE ARRANGEMENTS. UH TO PAY WE'VE ALREADY PAID FOR, UH, MADE ALL THE TRANSPORTATION ARRANGEMENTS AND ALL THAT FOR MISS FOR COUNCILWOMAN, AND SO, UH, IN RESPONSE TO WHAT HAPPENED EARLIER, WE'RE TRYING TO SEE WHAT DO WE DO? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AND GET SIDEWAYS WITH THE COUNCIL AND THEN OKAY, SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THIS ITEM IS ABOUT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, AND JUST AS WE MOVE FORWARD, AS A, UM POINT OF PROCEDURE. OKAY HERE FROM HERE, GOING FORWARD. UM, PUBLIC

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DO WE HAVE A. ANY COMMENTS OR DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? OH MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR STONE. NO OTHER COMMENTS.

ACTUALLY, I DO, UM. SO COUNCILMAN APOLLO I WOULD PROBABLY ALSO RECOMMEND THIS IS A GOOD EDUCATIONAL CLASS FOR A NEW ELECTED OFFICIAL, SO I WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND THAT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING GOOD FOR YOU, TOO. SO IF YOU WANT TO ATTEND. THIS IS SOMETHING MAYBE WE COULD JUST ROLL IT ALL INTO ONE. SINCE WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND HAS BEEN SECONDED ALL IN FAVOR. I ANY OPPOSED. OKAY. IT PASSED. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10. THE APPROVAL OF THE

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Approval of the Renewal of the Village's Revolving Line of Credit with South State Bank

15 2023. THERE'S NO COST FOR US TO EXTEND THIS LINE OF CREDIT. WE THINK IT'S PRUDENT FOR US TO ASK THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVES IT. THE INTEREST RATE IS 0.5% APPLIED AGAINST THE BALANCE OF THE LINE OF CREDIT IF WE DRAW IT, SO DO WE KNOW WHAT THE PREVIOUS THE OLD PERCENTAGE. IT WAS HIGHER THAN THIS. REALLY SURPRISING. YEAH, OKAY. YEAH, MIKE, YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? MADAM MAYOR. IT'S UH, HALF PERCENT LESS PRIME RATE. SO LAST TIME I CHECKED ON THIS. WHEN THIS AGENDA WAS CREATED, IT WOULD BE 4.5% PER ANNUM. OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY? DO WE GET EMOTION ON THIS? SO MOVE? SECOND. IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY VICE MAYOR STONE BEEN SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ. THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS. OKAY ALL IN FAVOR. I OPPOSED. SAYING NONE OF ITS PAST. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 8 11 CLASSIFICATION OF THE VILLAGE

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Reclassification of the Village Clerk Position as Administrative Services Director

THIS IS AN IDEA THAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPEARED ON THE AUGUST 25TH VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA, UH, WAS ASKED THAT YOU KNOW IT BE MOVED TO ANOTHER MEETING, AND SO WE PLACED THIS ON ON SEPTEMBER 8TH VILLAGE COUNCILS MEETING FOR ACTION. SO WHAT IT IS THE BILLS, CLERGY. SHE CURRENTLY DOES HIS JOB. NOW THAT'S WHAT SHE'S SHE DOES SHE ALWAYS SHE'S HR.

EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, OTHER FUNCTIONS OF THE VILLAGE, SO THIS IS A RECLASSIFICATIONS OR TITLE WOULD CHANGE FROM VILLAGE CLERK TO ADMINISTRATIVE SEARCHES. DIRECTOR THERE IS NO MONEY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. UH, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW IF SHE'S OVERSEEING DEPARTMENT PARLIAMENTARY SERVICES THAT SHOULD BE CALLED ADMINISTRATION DIRECTOR FOR CLERIC CLARITY AND FOR, UH, FOR JUST ORDER. SO. SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF RECLASSIFICATION THIS POSITION. OKAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MADAM MAYOR OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THERE ANY COUNCIL COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. IS THERE A 2ND 2ND? AND

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Consideration of Waving all Fees for Certain Public Records Requests Received and Directing that they be Expedited with Urgency

DISCUSSION. COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ. YES, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SO FIRST OF ALL I WANT, UH, MR BROWN, TOO. TALK ABOUT PUBLIC WORKERS. AND I ALSO WANT UM MADAM. ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE. DIRECTOR. UM TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE TO DO . AND THEN I WANT, UH, MR ATTORNEY TO, UM GO IN, AND YOU KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING MISSING ON THAT PIECE BECAUSE PUBLIC RECORDS IT'S DONE BY THE LAW, AND I AGREE ABOUT IT. THING IS, IS THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS WHEN WE WERE INCORPORATED A LOT OF PEOPLE TOLD US WE WANTED TO HAVE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS AND EMPLOYEES IS US AS AN EMPLOYEE.

THEY CAN SWEEP OUR EMAILS. AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR DOES NOT HAVE A VILLAGE EMAIL. THEY USED

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COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ THIS EMAIL FOR THE LAST MONTH THAT'S EASY AND THE STAFF. ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS ASK BLUE STREAM TO REQUEST THAT INFORMATION AND THEY WILL TELL YOU BLUE BLUE SHOES WILL TELL THE STAFF. THIS IS HOW MUCH IS THIS GOING TO COST? SOMETIMES IT CAN BE LIKE A FEW DOLLARS, DEPENDING ON HOW BIG THE ITEM IS. REMEMBER I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY PUBLIC RECORDS, IS IT RIGHT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S WRONG. BUT WHEN THERE IS A COST THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY BLUE STREAM. WELL. OUR STAFF HAS TO GO THROUGH IT. THAT'S THAT'S VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN EMPLOYEE INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING THAT IT IS. THEIR TITLE. THEY HAVE TO. GO THROUGH IT AND SOME OF IT ALL THIS, SO I'M JUST LOOKING OUT FOR TAXPAYER DOLLARS. AND THE PRESIDENT THAT WE WILL BE MAKING WITH THIS. CAN BE DANGEROUS. AND I ACTUALLY WAS ABLE TO SPEAK WITH MR CALDWELL BECAUSE YOU KNOW, HE CALLED ME A COUPLE OF TIMES ABOUT IT. AND I TOLD HIM I FULLY UNDERSTAND THIS . LIKE THERE IS NO HIDING ANYTHING. AND THIS IS WHY I REALLY WANT THIS SYSTEM UP THIS E R P THING SO THAT THEN WE WON'T HAVE PEOPLE SAYING WE'RE HIDING ANYTHING IF YOU IF YOU WANT MY VILLAGE PHONE, I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU. I WANT TO LOOK THROUGH THE TEXT MESSAGES. GO AHEAD. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO HIDE. SO HERE THE THING IS. THE STATE DOES CHARGES AND THEY MANDATE THE CHARGES. AND THEY TELL CITIES THAT THEY CAN CHARGE FOR THE LABOR THAT IT GOES TO UP JUST FOR THAT PROCESS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE CHARGE. IT'S NOT GONNA BE WITH ITS FOR TIME THAT THEY HAVE TO DO, AND THAT'S WHY I WANT THE STAFF TO GO ONE BY ONE AND EXPLAIN TO THEM IN REGARDS OF WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE IF IT'S AN EMAIL AND THAT HAPPENED TO ME. SOMEONE PULL A RECORDS REQUEST, AND IT WAS A SPECIFIC EMAIL. ALL I DID WAS SEND THAT EMAIL TO DARREN AND DARREN SENT IT SENT IT OFF TO WHOEVER PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.

THAT WAS EASY. BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TEXT MESSAGES WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, MAIL THAT WE GET THROUGH, UM, THE MAIL WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EMAILS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHER STUFF THAT IT'S NOT EASY TO ACCESS AND THEN THEY MANUALLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT. THAT'S WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOURS SPENT WITH MONEY. AND THATS SHOULD A TAXPAYER PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT. WHILE THEY SHOULD BE DOING VILLAGE OF INDIAN TIME BUSINESS. THEY'RE THEY'RE COMPLYING TO THIS PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS. THANK YOU. OKAY, WELL, I GUESS I'LL GO FIRST. UM SO OBVIOUSLY WE, OBVIOUSLY WE RECEIVE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST. THAT'S WHAT WE DO AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND DEPENDING ON THE REQUEST, IF IT'S IF THE REQUEST IS VERY NARROW, VERY SPECIFIC. YOU COME IN, YOU SAY YOU WANT HOWARD BROWN'S EMAILS FROM LAST WEEK.

EASY TO GET BUT IF YOU BUT THE MORE I GUESS THE MORE SPECIFIC THE REQUEST IS THE BETTER. WE ARE PROVIDING IT IMMEDIATELY. BUT IF THERE'S RESEARCH REQUIRED IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATION FROM HOWARD BROWN , THE DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW IT GETS TRICKY. AND SOMETHING SIMILAR WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER SAID ABOUT THE CONTRACTORS WHEN WE STARTED THE VILLAGE, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAD CONTRACTORS THAT PROVIDED MOST OF THE CORE SERVICES AND SO, UM UM ASKING THEM FOR RECORDS. IS A CHALLENGE . WE HAVE OUR RECORDS LIKE OUR RECORDS. THAT'S EASY TO GET. WE JUST CALLED BLUE STREAM AND GET THEM, BUT IT GETS TO BE CHALLENGED WHEN WE HAVE THE CONTRACTOR BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEM. AND SO WE WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING NOW IS WE'VE BEEN SENDING THE REQUEST TO THE CONTRACTOR, AND THEN THE CONTRACTOR ANALYZES THE REQUEST, AND THEN THEY DO THE RESEARCH. DO WHAT THEY GOTTA DO TO TELL US WHAT WHAT IT WOULD COST TO DO THAT. AND THAT'S WHY THE ESTIMATES COME BACK AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY COME THERE. THOUSANDS SOMETIMES THEY'RE $50. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S HOW THESE REQUESTS ARE TREATED, AND THAT'S THAT'S I'M TRYING TO GET A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE GET HERE.

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THAT'S A PART OF HAVING CONTRACTORS. SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY THEM. AND ALSO IN THE FUTURE.

WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS A PUBLIC RECORD THAT IS GOING TO COST 120 HOURS. WHO'S GOING TO PAY THAT? ARE WE JUST GOING TO DO IT FOR FREE? SO YOU REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DECIDING OR WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT VOTING ON HERE. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT MATTER. IT MAY NOT SEEM LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT THIS TIME AROUND, BUT THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. MR MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S MUCH TO DO ON CLEANUP ON THAT SPEECH. LET ME JUST OFFER A COUPLE THOUGHTS ALONG THESE LINES. SO SUSAN'S EXACTLY CORRECT THAT, UM , FLORIDA STATUTES CALL FOR IT AND APPLIES BOTH WHEN IT IS STAFF IN HOUSE AND THEN WHEN YOU COMBINE IT WITH A DIFFERENT PROVISIONS IN CHAPTER 1 19 AND ALSO APPLIES WHEN YOU HAVE OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS WHEN THEY HAVE TO SPEND TIME TO GO THROUGH AND SEARCH TO COMPLY WITH PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS. THEY CAN PASS THROUGH THOSE SAME COSTS ON THE SAME MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO EXTENSIVE CLERICAL OR SUPERVISORY ASSISTANCE OR EXTENSIVE USE OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY RESOURCES. THOSE COSTS CAN BE RECOVERED. AND SO YOU DO END UP IN SITUATIONS, SOMETIMES WITH OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS WHEN THEY ARE WHEN THEY HAVE THOSE RECORDS, USUALLY WHEN THEY ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN WORK FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR THE VILLAGE. UM THAT SOMETIMES THOSE COSTS CAN GO HIGH. THAT IS NOT UNIQUE TO INDIAN TOWN THAT IS ALL OVER THE STATE OF FLORIDA. I WANT TO SPLIT THIS UP INTO TWO PIECES HERE, OKAY, BECAUSE, UM. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WE KIND OF HAD TO DISCRETE SCENARIOS. ONE IS WHEN YOU HAVE A CONTRACTOR, AND THEY ARE THEY'VE DONE THEIR WORK AND THEN THEY ARE ALL DONE WITH THEIR WORK. FLORIDA LAW PROVIDES TWO OPTIONS AND WE INCORPORATE, BY THE WAY, JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW SINCE THE BEGINNING OF MY TIME WITH THE VILLAGE, WHICH IS BECAUSE PRETTY FAR BACK. UM WE'VE INCORPORATED LANGUAGE DIRECTLY FROM THE FLORIDA STATUTES TO IMPOSE THESE REQUIREMENTS. THE REQUIREMENTS ARE WHEN A CONTRACTOR IS DONE.

WITH THEIR WORK. THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO ONE OF TWO THINGS ALL RIGHT, AND THE STATUTE SAYS YOU CAN DO EITHER. I'M THINKING. TO DEAL WITH THIS PROBLEM UNIQUELY FOR INDIAN TOWN GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE CREATIVE INTO THE FUTURE TO TRY TO DEAL WITH THIS. THE TWO OPTIONS ARE EITHER THEY TURN OVER ALL THE RECORDS THAT THEY HAVE 100% OF ALL THE RECORDS THAT THEY HAVE. AT NO COST. OKAY SO HERE'S ALL OF THEM. I'M DONE WITH MY WORK. HERE'S ALL THE RECORDS OR THEY CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE RECORDS AND, UH AND THEN THEIR OBLIGATIONS CONTINUE. THEY HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO MAINTAIN THOSE RECORDS FOR, UM UH, PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 1 19. YEAH. OPTS FOR THE LATTER. ULTIMATELY, IT CAN BECOME EASIER TO DEAL WITH NOW. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA LAYER ON A COMPLICATION HERE, BUT IT'S GOING TO GO TO SOME OF THESE REQUESTS HERE TRYING TO THINK

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BUT IN ANY EVENT GOING FORWARD. I THINK STAFF ALL OF US ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING HOW WE CAN ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS. GET COPIES WITHOUT IMPOSING THE THING THAT THAT THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF TIME GET COPIES OF ALL THE RECORDS ARE CONTRACTORS HAVE ON A REGULAR BASIS SO WE CAN DUMP COPIES OF IT INTO OUR DATABASE IS SO WE CAN RADICALLY BRING DOWN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. OKAY UM, BECAUSE THIS IS A PROBLEM. IT COMES UP IN ALL THE JURISDICTIONS I REPRESENT MIGHT BE MORE UNIQUELY ACUTE HERE BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF CONTRACTORS WE HAVE. BECAUSE THE VILLAGE IS SO SMALL, OKAY? THAT WAS A LOT OF SETTING IT UP FOR THIS ANOTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND AND NICKEL'S WORTH OF FREE ADVICE FOR ANYBODY ASKING FOR PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST. THAT KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH WITH WHAT? BOTH HOWARD AND SUSAN WERE SAYING. WHEN PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS COME IN THAT, BY THEIR NATURE WILL TAKE STAFF WHETHER THAT'S STAFF STAFF OR IT'S, UM CONTRACTOR STAFF A LOT OF TIME TO GO AND SEEK OUT THOSE PARTICULAR RECORDS. ALRIGHT. ALL COMMUNICATIONS AS SUCH PERSON WITH ALL DEVELOPERS. WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? PLEASE. THIS IS FOR THE FUTURE TO MAKE THINGS SIMPLER FOR FOLKS. WHEN YOU SAY THAT NOW YOU'RE LOOKING THROUGH EVERY SINGLE EMAIL. AND THAT TAKES A LOT OF TIME. YOU ASKED FOR A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW ALL HOWARD BROWN'S EMAILS FOR THE LAST MONTH. LOT EASIER. VERY EASY TO SEARCH FOR THAT. OKAY THE ONLY THING THAT HAS TO BE DONE THERE IS TO GO GRAB IT AND DIG AROUND FOR ANY LIKELY EXEMPTIONS. AND PLEASE KEEP IN MIND. THAT IS ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO. SO THE PUBLIC RECORDS LAWS ARE BROAD. ALRIGHT ALL MANNER OF THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT THINK AREN'T PUBLIC RECORDS ARE ACTUALLY PUBLIC RECORDS, BUT THERE ARE IMPORTANT EXEMPTIONS AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION. AND SOMETIMES GIVEN THE NATURE OF THAT INFORMATION THERE IS THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME OF THAT IN THERE, AND IT IS AGAINST THE LAW FOR US TO INADVERTENTLY RELEASE FOR EXAMPLE, CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY SO THAT TAKES TIME TO GO THROUGH. SOMETIMES THAT EVALUATION CAN BE. YOU CAN DEAL WITH IT RATIONALLY BASED ON THE CHARACTER OF THE OF THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE THIS IS ALL THE TO SAY. IN DEALING WITH THESE THREE REQUESTS. STAFF WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT A LOT HERE. TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO GET MORE CREATIVE TO DEAL WITH THESE ONES HERE. UM SOME OF IT. IT MAY BE VERY DIFFICULT WHEN, WHEN THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE WELL SITUATED TO BE ABLE TO DIG FOR THE VERY SPECIFIC INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN ASKED IN THESE PENDING REQUESTS ARE THOSE CONTRACTORS THAT BUILT THEIR RATES AND THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD AT THEM. IN THAT INSTANCE IF YOU ALL CHOOSE TO SAY, WAIVE THE FEES IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE PAY THE FEES AND

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IS THERE ANY WAY THAT. FOR THE FUTURE. WE CAN SET SOMETHING. WOULD IT HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL FOR LIKE A WARNING OR OR JUST GET A MOTION IN REGARDS OF TRYING TO GET INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS THEIR INFORMATION NOW? SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND ASK THEM AND LIKE NOW AND GOING ON FOR THE FUTURE BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED? BACK, YOU KNOW. WHERE IT'S A LEARNING PROCESS. WE SET UP THIS GOVERNMENT. WE DON'T KNOW THINGS, BUT I FEEL THAT IF WE DO THIS TO SAVE. THE PERSON THAT'S REQUESTING THE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST AND THE STAFF.

ALSO THE TIME AND THE AND THE HEADACHE OF YOU KNOW WELL. WE DON'T HAVE THIS. WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND GET IT. CAN WE? HAVE A MANDATE ARE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS TO GIVE US THAT INFORMATION WHEN THEY LEAVE WHEN IT'S CONTRACTORS OVER. CAN WE DO IT LIKE A QUARTERLY BASIS? CAN WE DO IT YEARLY? THAT THAT IS, AS I SAID, THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF AN IDEA. WE'RE BOUNCING AROUND TO GET CREATIVE. AND THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE FIGURE IT OUT CREATIVITY GOING INTO THE FUTURE , AND IN FACT IT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE WE'D BE GOING MUCH FURTHER THAN THE JURISDICTION I REPRESENT IN REQUIRING THAT TAKE ONE OPTION RATHER THAN THE OTHER BECAUSE THE STATUTE GIVES THEM BOTH OPTIONS. BUT TO DEAL WITH THIS PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE, IT WOULD BE SIMPLER IF WHEN THEY'RE CONCLUDED WITH THEIR WORK, THEY GIVE IT ALL OVER. THEN AT LEAST WE HAVE IT. UH AND THEN ALSO THAT THEY GIVE US ON SOME PERIODIC BASIS, SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO GO TO THEM TOO. TO HAVE THEM PAY IT THEIR RATES EFFECTIVELY. DO I HAVE IT? SO WHEN WE DO THESE CONTRACTS WERE PAYING THEM FOR THESE CONTRACTS TO PRODUCE THAT WORK. PART OF THAT WORK IS THE PUBLIC RECORDS DOCUMENTS. THEY WERE ASKING FOR ALREADY PAID FOR THEM. IN OUR WORK. WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE DOCUMENTS AT THE END OF THE PROJECT OR DURING THE COURSE OF THE PROJECT IF IT'S A LONG PROJECT WE SHOULD BE FED THOSE DOCUMENTS. WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE DOCUMENTS WERE PAYING FOR THOSE DOCUMENTS. THE PUBLIC IS PAYING FOR THOSE DOCUMENTS, RIGHT? OKAY, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THEM. YEAH. SO I'LL JUST JUST LET ME SAY SOMETHING REALLY QUICK.

YOU'RE CORRECT, COUNCILMAN. WE DON'T HAVE THEM. BUT WHEN WE STARTED THE VILLAGE WE WERE IN, LIKE ONE ROOM. OKAY AND ONE OF THESE REQUESTS, YOU KNOW? IT'S FOUR OR FIVE BOXES. AND SO WE ENDED UP GETTING A STORAGE UNIT ACROSS TOWN, SO A LOT OF OUR STUFF IS STORED OVER THERE, BUT WITH IF WE TAKE ON ALL LIKE BOWMAN, FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'VE BEEN WITH HIS LONG TIME.

I JUST IMAGINE HOW MANY BOXES THEY WOULD SHIP OVER HERE. WHEN WE ALL THE LAND YOU STUFF THAT CAME FROM MARTIN COUNTY THAT PROMPTED US TO GET A STORAGE FACILITY BECAUSE IT WAS PROBABLY LIKE 40 BOXES OF INFORMATION THAT WE GOT FROM MARTIN COUNTY TOOK ALL THE LAND YOU STUFF.

THEY TRUCKED IT OVER HERE, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO STORE IT, SO IT'S STORED IN A STORAGE UNIT OVER THERE, SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW LIKE IF IT'S PAPER COPIES, HOW HOW DIFFICULT THAT CAN BE. AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN THE BEGINNING. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T WORK SOME SOLUTION NOW, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU WHERE WE WHERE WE CAME FROM.

WHAT WAS WHAT WAS DONE IN THE PAST WAS DONE IN THE PAST, BUT I THINK MOVING FORWARD WE NEED TO,

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OKAY? UM. I HEAR THE FRUSTRATION ON BOTH SIDES. AND I HEAR A LOT OF MOVING FORWARD. MOVING FORWARD. I THINK THAT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE'RE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW. AND WE'RE DEALING WITH IT. THAT THIS IS JUST ONE MORE THING THAT WE'VE COME UP ON. THAT IS, HMM. WE CAN DO BETTER AT THIS. I APPRECIATE STAFF SAYING, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. I THINK THAT IF WE AT THE CONTRACT END. THAT THE AND TALK ABOUT THESE VOLUMES OF PAPERS. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THAT STUFF CAN BE COMPUTERIZED? SO IT'S EASIER THAN SOMEBODY GOING OVER THROUGH TWO AND HAVING TO GO THROUGH A BOX AND I MEAN, IS THIS IS THIS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE AUTOMATICALLY JUST FED AND SCANNED AND KEPT IN A IN A DISK. IT IS. IT IS, HOWEVER, UH, WHEN WE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, WE RECEIVED ALL THESE BOXES FROM MARTIN COUNTY. SO SOMEONE COMES IN AND SAYS, I WANT CERTAIN RECORDS. WE HAVE TO GO TO THIS. STORES FACILITY WHERE ALL THE BOXES EXIST, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, AND BUT THE SYSTEM THAT WE ARE WE'VE BOUGHT AND WE ARE IMPLEMENTING. IT WILL . IT HAS THAT CAPABILITY OF PROSPECTIVELY. YES SO THEN MOVING ONCE AGAIN MOVING FORWARD. SOMETIME OR OTHER. WE WILL BE CATCHING UP BECAUSE SOMEBODY WILL BE GOING OVER THERE AND GRABBING THOSE BOXES AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE SCANNED INTO THE SYSTEM SO SOMEDAY WE WILL HAVE EVERYTHING IN THAT SYSTEM, AND WE WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CORRECT SOMEBODY HAVING TO GO OVER. ABSOLUTELY GOAL. YEAH. MADAM MAYOR. IF I CAN JUST MAKE ONE CLARIFICATION WHEN WE DO SCAN THOSE RECORDS. IT'S NOT A MATTER OF JUST SCANNING IT. BOOM IT'S DONE. WE HAVE TO GO IN. AND FOR EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT. WE HAVE TO ENTER METADATA SO THAT THE DOCUMENTS ARE ALL SEARCHABLE SO WE CAN PUT IN THE KEYWORDS AND WE CAN BRING EVERYTHING UP QUICKLY, SO IT IS A TIME CONSUMING PROCESS, OKAY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO. WAS THERE ANY EMOTION THAT NEEDED TO BE OR WANTED TO BE MADE ON THIS, OR IS THIS JUST INSTRUCTION TO STAND. OKAY WELL, WE ALREADY DID PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER WE'VE DISCUSSED. MADAM MADAM CLARK. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? YES MADAM. ERIC UP. LINDEN ICOM, SO FIRST SPEAKER, FOLLOWED BY BARBARA CLAUDIUS. WHEN DID I COME FOR THE RECORD? UM TWO. PRONGS TO MY QUESTION. IF. THE CONTRACT WITH THESE COMPANIES THAT ARE KEEPING OUR RECORDS IS IT ONLY TO COLLECT AND STORE OR IS IT TO COLLECT STORE AND MAINTAIN SO THAT WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE THAT INFORMATION THAT THEY ARE COLLECTING FOR US.

AND SECONDLY, IF THEY ARE PUBLIC RECORDS. SHOULDN'T THEY BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC? ISN'T THAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF HAVING THEM SO THAT WE CAN REFER BACK? TO THOSE RECORDS TO CLARIFY SITUATIONS. THANK YOU. BARBARA CLOUDLESS. MY NAME IS BARBARA CLOUDLESS, AND I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE OF THOSE. PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS AND I WANT TO SAY THAT UH UM, BOTH SUSAN AND DARREN ARE RESPONSIVE TO ME. AND THEY ARE POLITE TO ME EVEN WHEN I'M A PAIN IN THE REAR END. AND UH, THEY DO TRY. UM. AND I WAS GOING TO BRING UP EXACTLY WHAT MR BOSE BROUGHT UP WHEN IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CONTRACTS WITH OUR OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS IS VERY CLEAR. THANKS TO MR BOSE THAT THEY MUST

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TO KEEP HIM POST. SO YOU GET BOTH THEIR PERSONAL EMAILS PERTAINING TO BUSINESS AS WELL.

I ASK YOU THERE REGULAR UM, COUNTY ADDRESS EMAILS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED FOR INDIAN TOWN. SO BECAUSE MY LAST EMAIL REQUEST FOR MR BROWN'S EMAILS FOR ONE MONTH COSTS ME. OVER $200 THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR PEOPLE AND INDIAN TOWN THAT CAN'T PAY THAT KIND OF MONEY. I CAN'T PAY THAT KIND OF MONEY. BUT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC INFORMATION TO HAVE ACCESS TO WHAT THOSE COMMUNICATIONS ARE TO DEVELOPERS TO NEIGHBORS TO PERSONAL FRIENDS TO CONTACTS, AND I URGE YOU TO GO GOING FORWARD THAT YOU MAKE THAT PART OF THE POLICY IN INDIAN TOWN. I ALSO WILL WILL WITHDRAW. MY PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST AND I'LL DO THAT FORMALLY. SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THAT HEADACHE ANYMORE . AND YOU DON'T HAVE CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF THE MOTION TONIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I KNOW. PART OF THOSE COMMENTS. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE VILLAGE MANAGER ABOUT MOVING FORWARD. ON HOW OUR SYSTEM CAN BE. LIKE MARTIN COUNTY. WHAT THEY'VE GOT THAT WAY IT WOULD SAVE STAFF A LOT OF TIME AND I BELIEVE YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT WE DID, MADAM MAYOR. WE DID. UM AND IT'S WHAT THE LADY SAID EARLIER. IT'S TRUE , BUT WHAT WE KNOW IS THEY HAVE A SERVER WHERE YOU CAN SEARCH BY NAME. AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT'S ONLY YOU CAN ONLY GET THE EMAILS THAT ARE SENT TO THE COMMISSIONER. YOU DON'T GET THE ONES THAT ARE THE REPLIES, OR THEY'RE FROM. AND, UM. LET'S GO ONLINE, DO IT. I MEAN, I DID IT THIS MORNING. AND SO, UM, IT'S A SEARCHABLE. IT'S A SEARCHABLE DATABASE AND ITS THEY'VE HAD IT FOR QUITE SOME TIME. IT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND. LIKE MAYBE 15 20 YEARS OR SO AND BUT OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE GET OUR EUROPEAN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WE CAN PERFECT AND COME TO THE 21ST CENTURY ON. OKAY SO ONCE WE GET THE E R P THAT WILL BE MADE A PART OF THAT. IT'LL BE MADE PART OF MAKING SURE THAT ONE WOULD REQUEST COMES IN. WE'RE ON A TIMETABLE TO GET THE RECORDS REQUEST FOR FIELD, SO OKAY, SO YOU I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION. AND MAYBE WE COULD TALK ABOUT THIS AT A AT A DIFFERENT TIME AS TO WHAT EXACTLY MARTIN COUNTY HAS THAT MAKES IT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND WHAT THAT IS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S THE SAME AS THE EUROPEAN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING I THINK MAYBE MOVING FORWARD THAT WILL BE ONE OF THOSE ASPECTS OF THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX AND LOOKING AT ALL ASPECTS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE MR BUSH. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY? I HATE SHARING FRUSTRATIONS, BUT I'LL SHARE ANOTHER FRUSTRATION WITH WITH I T S NOW BLUE STREAM. THEY HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD TO THE VILLAGE IN A LOT OF WAYS. IT'S JUST IT COMES DOWN TO THE RECORDS, ACCESS AND EMAIL AS WELL. UM I HAVE NOTICED SOMETHING. UM THAT HAS HAS BEEN A LITTLE FRUSTRATING, AND IT GOES TO THE TIME THAT WE GET BILLED FOR. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS THIS IS REAL MONEY. IT'S COMPLIANT WITH THE LAW AND ALL THIS TO HAVE TO CHARGE IT. BUT I T S BLUE STREAM IS. IS VERY INSISTENT IN THEIR SETUP THAT THAT THERE CANNOT BE SET UP A WAY WHERE VILLAGE STAFF CAN SEARCH THROUGH VILLAGE. EMAIL SYSTEMS AND PULL THOSE OTHER THAN YOUR OWN. THAT IS NOT MY I WILL JUST SHARE. THAT IS NOT MY UNIVERSAL EXPERIENCE WITH OTHERY

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WE COULD BE LOOKING AT MAYBE ANOTHER PROVIDER THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE. WHAT OUR NEED IS, AND I'M I KNOW. I'M GOING AWAY FOR A FIELD IN MY NORMAL WHEELHOUSE HERE, BUT THIS WAS A FRUSTRATION. I HAD EVEN EARLY WITH THEM THAT THEY HAVE BEEN FOR EVERYTHING CONCERNING COMPUTERS AND SO ON OUT HERE IN INDIAN TOWN, THE FOLKS AND THE ONLY AVAILABLE FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO DO IT AND SO IT'S WORKED OUT VERY WELL. BUT WHEN IT CAME TO THOSE THINGS WE? WE HAD THOSE FRUSTRATIONS. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT BECAUSE I'VE EXPERIENCED THIS BOTH IN MY LAW PRACTICE AND WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS MIGRATING, FOR EXAMPLE, EMAIL AND FILE SYSTEMS IS ITS OWN ENTERPRISE, SO IT WOULD NOT BE IF THAT WAS THE ULTIMATE WAY IT HAD TO GO. THAT WOULD NOT BE QUICK BY ANY STRETCH, BUT I WILL JUST I'M JUST SHARING WITH YOU THAT IT IS NOT THE CASE. EVERYWHERE AROUND THE STATE EVERYWHERE AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT THERE'S NOT A WAY THAT CITY STAFF VILLAGE STAFF CAN'T ACCESS IT DIRECTLY, SO WE'RE NOT PAYING AN OUTSIDE VENDOR TO DO THAT WORK. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THAT THIS SITUATION HIGHLIGHTS WHERE WE'RE LACKING. THE POSSIBILITIES AND WHERE WE NEED TO GO. SO, UM. WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION ON ANYTHING.

DO WE ALL AGREE? TO EXPRESS TO STAFF. THAT THOSE. OUT OF THE BOX AND THOSE ISSUES AND THOSE POSSIBILITIES BE EXPLORED FULLY. I THINK THEY'RE ALREADY DOING IT. YEAH, WELL MAYBE PUT A LITTLE URGENCY AND IT IS IMPORTANT BEHIND IT. WE WILL. THANK YOU. OKAY? MOVING ON ON

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Village Board/Committee Application Process

YEAH. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. IS THERE AND THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA AND I'M GOING TO ASK FOR IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ONE YET? DO NOT HAVE ANY MADAM MAYOR, OKAY? IS THERE ANY COUNCIL. COMMENT ON ANY OF THIS. AT THE MOMENT. WELL, I AGREE WITH MOST OF IT. UM REGARDING THE. APPOINTMENT TIMEFRAME. I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. AH IF YOU APPOINT SOMEONE AND YOU'RE NOT ELECTED ANYMORE THAN YOUR POINT SHOULD I MEAN THEIR TIME WOULD AUTOMATICALLY BE UP BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE ALONG WITH THE TERM ANYWAYS. SO I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT. UM

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AH THE TERMS OF THE SAY RIGHT NOW WE'RE DEALING WITH A PC A BOARD, OKAY? SO. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SPEAK ON THAT ONE? ON TERMS TERMS. EXPIRING. I AGREE WITH THAT. SO I'M FOR THAT. OKAY. SO CURRENTLY. CURRENTLY THE TERMS OF THE PC, A BOARD ARE STAGGERED KIND OF ALL OVER THERE. THEY DO NOT COINCIDE WITH WITH THE WITH THE PERSON WHO REQUESTED. PLUS WE ALSO HAVE TO KIND OF AT LARGE APPOINTEES. OKAY, UM. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THE TWO AT LARGE APPOINTEES THEY SERVE A TWO YEAR TERM. BECAUSE YOUR COUNSEL. YOUR COUNCIL EVERY TWO YEARS HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE. SO THEN IT CAN JUST COME UP. THEY CAN BE REAPPOINTED OR YOU KNOW THEY I GUESS ONE OUT OR YES, SIR. OH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY YOU COULD PUT IT ON A CYCLE TO HAVE THEIR TERMS. TERMINATE THAT THAT THE TWO AT LARGE TERMINATE AT THE END OF THE ELECTION CYCLE, AND SO THERE MAY BE UP AGAIN AFTER A NEW COUNCIL SEATED. YES, SIR. SO, UM. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO ORGANIZE IF THAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THIS COUNCIL AND MAKING THOSE TERMS ALONG WITH WHOEVER WOULD THEY WOULD BE APPOINTED BY AND. AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE AT LARGE EVERY TWO YEAR TERMS. SO I JUST HEARD A MOTION FROM VICE MAYOR STONE. SECOND THAT AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY OTHER PUBLIC DISCUSSION. DO NOT HAVE ANY MADAM MAYOR. WELL. I HAVE YOU ON FOR THE NEXT ITEM, BUT SOME OF THAT DISCUSSION IS KIND OF BEEN FORWARDED TO THIS ITEM. SO I WOULD SAY THAT YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND SPEAK. NOW IS THE TIME. OKAY UM, GREETINGS AND YOU GET A GOOD EVENING. OH SORRY . THANK YOU. UM MADAM CHAIR, VICE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM I WANT TO ADDRESS THE TERMS OF THE PIECE. A BOARD MEMBERS IN WHICH I SERVED AS PRESIDENT. I WAS APPOINTED BY FORMER MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN JACKIE GARY CLARK. MY CONCERN IS THAT THE P C. A BOARD MEMBERS APPOINTMENT WITH WOULD NOT BE CONNECTED TO THE TENURE OF THEIR IMPORTANT HER AS A RESIDENT SERVANT OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIA TOWN. I'M OH, UM, I'M APPEALING TO THIS BOARD. THIS COUNCIL BOARD, TOO. TWO. I'M APPEALING TO. I'M TRYING TO WRITE IT REAL QUICK. UM AWARE THAT, UM, THE DEDICATED COMMITTED MEMBERS TO, UM TO SERVE TO SERVE OUT THEIR TERMS WITH CONSIDERATION OF THEIR REAPPOINTMENT. WHEN THE TERMS ARE UP. IT IS MY PLEASURE TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AS PC, A BOARD MEMBER. OKAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE EMOTION BY ANYBODY ELSE. OKAY. AM I SAYING FURTHER? FURTHER HE WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE NEXT PORTION, OKAY? UM OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION. AND DOES ANYBODY NEED CLARIFICATION ON THAT MOTION? IS EVERYBODY CLEAR ON IT? SO WE HAVE YES, SIR. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. IT'S GOOD THAT YOU'RE DOING FORMAL VOTES TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO GO BACK AND MAKE THIS HAPPEN. ALL THIS WILL BE IMPLEMENTED THROUGH LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION CHANGES, WHICH WILL RUN BACK THROUGH TO YOU ALL AND YOU'LL BE PROVING IT IN ORDINANCE. BUT VOTING DISCREETLY ON THESE THINGS IS GREAT BECAUSE WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE

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Planning, Zoning, & Appeal Board (PZAB) Appointments

WHICH WOULD BE. LITTLE RANCH, CLEMENTS VILLE SPRING HAVEN. AND HAVE BUSINESSES IN TOWN. HOWEVER IF WE HAVE THAT CLAUSE IN THERE THEY WOULD BE INELIGIBLE TO SERVE. SO I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THAT. I THINK THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE IF THEY HAVE A BUSINESS WITHIN BECAUSE THEY THAT MEANS THAT THEY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST. PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST. PEOPLE WHO HAVE BUSINESSES HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST AND IT IS GOOD TO HAVE THEM SERVING ON THOSE BOARDS. YOU GET SOMEBODY THAT'S COMING FROM STUART. NO, I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY FROM STUART BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A VESTED INTEREST. SO THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE THAT I HAVE ON THE NOMINEE, NOMINEE VERSUS APPOINTEE. DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THIS? I'LL MAKE THEM WHAT WE'RE GETTING. NOW. WE'VE GOT PUBLIC COMMENT. YES ON THIS PORTION, OKAY? SORRY THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. UM SO I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK. ACTUALLY YOU ACTUALLY SPOKE ON WHAT I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT. I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, HAVING THE POSITIONS THAT YOU HAVE FROM OUTSIDE RESIDENTS THAT ARE NOT IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, BUT HAVE BUSINESS INTERESTS IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. SO I STAND AND SUPPORT OF, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING IN OUTSIDE INTERESTS THAT HAVE INTEREST IN INDIAN TOWN BUT MAY NOT RESIDE IN INDIAN TOWN AND COLLEGE IN TOWN. THEIR THEIR RESIDENCY HAVE THE ABILITY TO POTENTIALLY SERVE OR BE NOMINATED IN ANY CAPACITY THAT THEY MAY THANK YOU, SIR. SO I WAS GONNA SAY, UM, I DO HAVE EMOTION. OKAY NEVER MEASURE.

PUBLIC COMMENTS MORE. BERNITA PRESSLER. MY NAME IS RENEE TO PRESSLER AND I'M A RESIDENT. AND I FEEL THAT OUTSIDE INFLUENCES ARE ALREADY TOO STRONG IN INDIAN TOWN. WE'VE HAD FINANCIAL INTERFERENCE WE'VE HAD UM, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET SEATS ON VARIOUS BOARDS THAT ARE WELL, IT'S JUST YOU'RE WEAKENING THE RESIDENTS. AND UM I FEEL THAT THE PEOPLE WHO THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHO DON'T LIVE WITHIN THE BOUNDARY WHO DO NOT VOTE HERE ARE ALREADY TOO STRONG AND ARE OVERPOWERING. THE PEOPLE WHO DO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.

MADAM MAYOR, OKAY? HAVE MARY BETH BACHELOR, FOLLOWED BY ANNA FARIS. HI GOOD EVENING, MARY BETH BACHELOR. MOVE UP A LITTLE BIT. THERE WE GO DOWN. I AGREE WITH YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND WITH JOSH KELLUM. I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF QUALIFIED PEOPLE, NOT NECESSARILY WITHIN OUR VILLAGE.

BUT YOU KNOW, RIGHT ON THE OUTSIDE THAT REALLY CAN HELP US WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH, UM SO I ASK THAT YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. FOR YEARS. AREAS I AM A FORMAL RESIDENT OF INDIAN TOWN AND ALSO I HAVE BUSINESS HERE. I DO AGREE WITH THE PERSON THAT JUST SPOKE RIGHT BEFORE ME. WE NEED MORE QUALIFYING. PEOPLE IS NOT JUST

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BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ORGANIZED. VIOLENT EAR WORKS AND MAKE A CHANGE. AND IF WE DON'T HAVE QUALIFYING PEOPLE THAT COULD BE IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT. THE TRAIN WILL MOVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU. SO DO I HAVE EMOTION? YEAH SO MY EMOTION IS GOING TO BE THE FIVE APPOINTEE IS GOING TO BE BY THE COUNCIL. AND THEY COULD APPOINT WHOEVER THEY WANT TO POINT THE TWO AT LARGE, HAVE TO BE NOMINATED AND VOTE BY THE COUNCIL. THEY COULD BE OUTSIDE INSIDE. WHATEVER THE CASE IS, THEY COULD BE BUSINESS OWNER OR WHATEVER. THEY ARE. UM SO AND ALSO THE CHAIR HAS TO BE A RESIDENT. THAT'S MY MOTION. I SECOND THAT LET ME GET CLARIFICATION IF I CAN. I'M NOT TOO SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND. YOU MADE YOU MADE SURE THAT YOU MADE A POINT OF THE TWO AT LARGE, CAN BE A BUSINESS OWNER OR RESIDENT.

CORRECT. WHEN A COUNCIL MEMBER HAS ANOTHER POINT APPOINTEE. IS IT THE SAME EITHER A RESIDENT OR A BUSINESS OWNER APPOINTEE HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN. SO YOU'RE TWO AT LARGE, ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT THAT CAN HAVE A BUSINESS IN INDIAN TOWN. THEY COULD STILL HAVE A BUSINESS, BUT THEY HAVE TO LIVE IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TELL FOR YEAR TWO AT LARGE. NO, YOU'RE TOO AT LARGE, COULD BE WHATEVER THE. FIVE HAVE TO BE RESIDENTS. THEY CAN ALSO BE A BUSINESS OWNER, BUT THEY HAVE TO LIVE INSIDE OF THE VILLAGE. OKAY SO THE FIVE HAVE TO BE RESIDENTS. DO IT LARGE COULD BE WHATEVER. AND THEN WHAT WAS THE OTHER CONDITION THAT YOU HAD ON THAT MOTION? THE TWO AT LARGE, CANNOT BE CHAIR. I CANNOT SHARE SO THAT HAS BEEN. MADE AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED. MADE BY VICE MAYOR. STONE SECONDED BY. COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ. OKAY? IS EVERYBODY CLEAR ON WHAT THAT MOTION IS. OKAY? SO. I WOULD LIKE A ROLL CALL ON THIS ONE. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S WHAT EXCUSE ME. AMERICA IS THOMAS. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ YES. MR STONE? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER DIPAOLO. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER PEREZ. YES. OKAY MOVING ON. I THINK THAT TAKES CARE OF BOTH ASPECTS OF THAT. SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT. AND 14 THE PLANNING AND ZONING BILL'S BOARD APPOINTMENTS BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT BE REAL APPROPRIATE RIGHT NOW UNTIL INORDINATE UNTIL WE ARE PASSING ORANGE TO GET THOSE INTO INTO THE RHYTHM, OKAY? AMERICA OKAY? YES, SIR. COULD I ASK THE COUNCIL A THIRD QUESTION BECAUSE IT WILL IT WILL HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH IN THE ORDINANCE. AND THAT'S TRANSITION. OKAY THE EXISTING MEMBERS. ON THE P C. A. B. THERE MAY BE SOME REAPPOINTMENTS, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT'S BASICALLY, UM. WHERE WE STARTING IT BACK UP AGAIN, IF YOU WILL, WITH EVERYBODY MAKING APPOINTMENTS YOU ALL CHOOSING TO AND SO ON. UM WOULD THAT BE THE IDEA THAT THEY'RE BASICALLY UPON ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE? ALL THE CURRENT TERMS OF EVERYBODY ON THE PCH WOULD TERMINATE AND YOU ALL WOULD DO APPOINTMENT PURSUANT TO THAT, OR WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO JUST UPDATE WHOEVER IS ON THERE THAT IF THE CURRENT COUNCIL MEMBER DECIDE THEY WANT TO KEEP THAT FIRST, AND WE COULD PROBABLY JUST UPDATE THEIR OFF. LIKE I SAID, I IMAGINE THERE WILL BE A NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO WOULD END UP STILL ON AFTERWARDS. BUT ON PAPER IT WOULD BE TERMINATE RESTART WITH THOSE CYCLE DATES. I'M NOT SITTING HERE. ANY HEAD NODS THE OTHER DIRECTION SO VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. OKAY? MOVING ON. WE'RE TO OUR FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES NUMBER 15. THANK YOU,

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ORDINANCE NO. XX-2022: AN ORDINANCE OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, UPDATING THE FIVE-YEAR SCHEDULE OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PURSUANT TO SECTION 163.3177(3)(B), FLORIDA STATUTES, AND PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS, CODIFICATION, CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

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OKAY? OKAY SO IT'S BEEN MOVED, AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED ALL IN FAVOR. I ALL OPPOSED. SAYING NONE OF ITS PAST. MOVING ON TO NUMBER 16. THANK YOU. MAYOR ITEM 16 ORDINANCE OF THE VILLAGE OF

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ORDINANCE NO. XX-2022: AN ORDINANCE OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN PERSONNEL REGULATIONS; PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS, SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS, NON-CODIFICATION, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

REGULATIONS. DECEMBER 2021. THE COUNCIL VOTED GIVE THAT POWER TO THE VILLAGE MANAGER. AGAINST PEOPLE'S WELL. JUST LOOKING TO RESTORE THE PEOPLE AS WELL. THAT'S IT. THAT'S SIMPLE. OKAY IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ON THIS ITEM? NOT HAVE ANY MADAM. THERE. OKAY? ANY FURTHER.

I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION. AH. SO YOU SAY THE POWER. WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? BECAUSE IT DOES IS SUCH A WIDE. SITUATION WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO GET MORE DETAILS BEFORE I COULD EVEN VOTE ON THIS. OKAY, WELL, YOU JUST DEALT WITH IT. THE ABILITY FOR THE VILLAGE MANAGER TO GIVE UH, AND ABOVE THE NORMAF CRUDE TIME. BENEFITS PACKAGE. ABOVE AND BEYOND. WHAT THAT JOB.

COMMANDS. YOU JUST HAD A CASE WHERE HE'S SUPPOSED TO THE VILLAGE MANAGER WAS SUPPOSED TO NOTIFY YOU WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OF THAT. AND IT WAS NOT DONE. OKAY THE PEOPLE'S WORLD WISE FOR THE COUNCIL TO RETAIN THAT POWER. AND ALL I'M LOOKING TO DO IS RESTORE THE PEOPLE'S WILL.

THAT'S IT. SO I KNOW THE WORDS. THERE IS A CERTAIN WHERE DO YOU THINK THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO WITHDRAW? IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YES. OKAY DO YOU DO WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I'M STILL IN THE CLOTHES. THE ORDINANCE THE ORDINANCE THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT FOR FIRST READING. UM PERSONNEL. UH PERSONAL REGULATIONS ARE ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE. ALRIGHT, YOU ALL, UH MANY MONTHS AGO. I THINK BACK AT THE TURN OF THE LAST YEAR AH ADOPTED A CHANGE TO THE PERSONNEL POLICY THAT ADDED TWO SENTENCES. THOSE SENTENCES WERE DIRECTED TO GRANTING THE VILLAGE MONSTER THE AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE BENEFITS IN EXCESS OF THOSE PROVIDED IN THE PERSONNEL POLICIES IF IT'S NECESSARY FOR HIRING AND RETAINING MISSION, CRITICAL EXPERIENCE, INDIVIDUALS, OKAY? UM AND THEN THE NOTICE REQUIREMENT THAT WAS DISCUSSED THE ORDINANCE BEFORE TONIGHT IS SIMPLY DELETING THOSE TWO SENTENCES FROM THE PERSONNEL REGULATIONS. OKAY, AND WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES IF WE DELETE THESE TWO CENTERS? THE VILLAGE MANAGER WOULD NO LONGER HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO EXTEND THOSE BENEFITS. EXTEND, UM AH!

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SO WHAT ATTRACTS A FUTURE EMPLOYER EMPLOYEE TO THE VILLAGE OF ENGLAND TOWN EVEN GIVE THEM MASSAGES. DID YOU KNOW THAT TO THEIR EMPLOYEES? THEY GIVE THEM FOOD. THEY I'VE I'VE READ WHAT CITY YOU'RE STORY GIVES THEIR EMPLOYEES SO HOW DO YOU ATTRACT TRAINED PERSONNEL THAT HAS BEEN DOING IT FOR LONG TIMES AND OTHER AREAS. UM THAT'S THE CHALLENGES. UM THE CHALLENGES IR INDIAN TOWN. HOW DO YOU KEEP THE BEST HERE WHEN LET'S JUST SAY IRIS, SEE CITY OF STEWART. UM MARTIN COUNTY NEEDS THEM AND THEY'RE GONNA THEY'RE GONNA SWAY THEM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WITH BENEFITS, AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROBABLY. SOOTHE OUT IN REGARDS OF SEVEN DAYS OR, UM, I DON'T KNOW. BUT THIS IS NOT TAKING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. IT'S ACTUALLY HOW DO YOU GET A GUY LIKE MR FLOREA FLOREAL ATTRACTED TO THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN IF EVERYONE ELSE AROUND US IS GIVING US GIVING MASSAGES DURING , UM, ONCE A MONTH IS GIVING, UM UP LIKE TWO WEEKS PAYMENT. UM SK WITH. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. WE DON'T. WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP OUR BUDGET CONSERVATIVE. BUT WHEN SOMEONE IS ABOUT TO LEAVE THE DOOR. AND THEY'RE REALLY GOOD.

IT TAKES SIX TO HIM A YEAR TO GET THAT PERSON. TRAIN DANIEL LIKE OUR MANAGEMENT ANALYST.

WHEN DID HE LEAVE? MR BROWN. I CAN'T. I THINK JANUARY AND WE HAVE NOT FOUND A REPLACEMENT.

ILENE CLARKE IS, UH OR NIGHT CLERK TOMORROW IS LEAVING TOMORROW AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER VACANCY. AND THEN EVERYONE KNOWS IN THE PERMIT DEPARTMENT. IT'S BEEN ONE AFTER ANOTHER AFTER ANOTHER. AND IF WE KEEP ON DOING THIS, AND WE CAN'T RETAIN PEOPLE HERE IT'S. IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR THE RESIDENTS WHEN THEY'RE LIKE I CALLED. I CALLED THE PERSON THAT WAS AT THE PERMIT, AND THEY'RE NOT NO LONGER WORKING THERE. AND I'M LIKE, SORRY. IT'S JUST THAT EVERYONE SWITCHING SO YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU MAKE THINGS BETTER DURING THIS POINT OF TIME WHERE THERE'S SO MUCH EMPLOYERS OUT THERE AND THEY'RE OFFERING SO MUCH MORE THAT THEY WILL ROLL OUT THAT RED CARPET FOR THEM, AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A TEXT PAYER MONEY FOR IT. UM BUT IF WE CAN GIVE THEM TWO SICK DAYS OR OR 36 DAYS. THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW WE CAN LIVE WITH. I HAVE MHM. YEAH, I SEE. WE HAVE

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UM I'VE HEARD A LOT THIS EVENING . AND I THINK THAT THE BASIC ISSUE HERE IS BEING LOST. THAT IT'S IN OUR CHARTER. OUR CHARTER TELLS US THAT WE DO THIS. I HEAR THAT. OH WELL, IT'S NOT USUALLY DONE THIS WAY TRUE. BUT OUR CHARTER SAYS WE DO IT THIS WAY. SO ARE WE GOING TO FOLLOW OUR CHARTER? ARE WE GOING TO GO OUTSIDE OF OUR CHARTER? WE PUT IT TO THE PEOPLE IN A REFERENDUM ONE IN MARCH OF 2020 SAYING, OKAY? LET'S CHANGE OUR CHARTER. SINCE IT'S NOT USUALLY DONE THIS WAY. LET'S CHANGE OUR CHARTER. THE PEOPLE SAID NO, YOU'RE NOT. YOU KEEP TO WATCH THE CHARTER TELLS YOU TO DO OKAY, SO THE CHARTER TELLS US TO DO IT. THE PEOPLE SAID NO. YOU STAY WITH YOUR CHARTER. THAT'S HOWEVER, WE HAVE TO DO IT. WE STICK WITH THE CHARTER. UM. TALKING ABOUT BUDGET. WE NEED TO BE BUDGET CONSERVATIVE IF WE ALLOW. SOMEONE THE AUTHORITY OUR AUTHORITY TO GO UP AND ABOVE PERSONNEL POLICY THAT WE MAKE. IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE BUDGET.

IT WILL IMPACT THE BUDGET. SO WE HAVE LOST THAT AUTHORITY ON ON IMPACTING THE BUDGET TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOSING PEOPLE LEFT AND RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW, TO RETAIN PEOPLE WE NEED TO. IF WE ARE LOSING THAT MANY PEOPLE WE MAY NEED TO TAKE A VERY STRONG LOOK AT WHY WE ARE LOSING THEM, AND IT MAY NOT BE SALARY AND BENEFITS. WE MAY HAVE AN ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS IF WE ARE LOSING PEOPLE LEFT AND RIGHT. SO MY THING IS, IT'S. OUR CHARTER TELLS US THAT THIS IS WHAT WE STAY WITH. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO. THE PEOPLE SAID. YOU GUYS KEEP WITH THE CHARTER. WE'VE TRIED IT. SPOKE TO IT. WE GAVE AUTHORITY OUTSIDE OF WHAT OUR CHARTER IS IN FEBRUARY WITH THOSE TWO SENTENCES, ADDED. OF OKAY. IF IT'S DONE, YOU GIVE YOU YOU GIVE THAT AUTHORITY AWAY. YOU HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED WITHIN SEVEN DAYS. THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. WE TRIED IT. IT DIDN'T WORK. THEN IT WAS AND THEN WE DO. WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE.

OH WELL, WE'LL JUST THE BI WEEKLY MANAGERS, UM. UM UPDATE HAS ALL THE INFORMATION IF YOU READ IT, IT CAN. WE CAN PUT IT IN THERE. IT WASN'T PUT IN A EMAIL. IN SIX MONTHS. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO WIND UP IN A BI WEEKLY? UPDATE AND WE'VE GOT TO GO LOOK FOR IT. WE HAVE THE CHARTER RESPONSIBILITY. AND IT WAS SAID THAT WE NEED TO BE TOLD BECAUSE WE ARE GIVING AWAY THAT CHARTER RESPONSIBILITY. DIDN'T WORK. SO THAT IS WHAT I SEE IN THIS, UM. IS TAKING BACK THAT RESPONSIBILITY. AND THOSE ARE ALL THE REASONS THAT I SEE THAT THAT, UM IT SHOULD BE DONE.

AND APPARENTLY, WE HAVE COUNT. WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AND I SEE SOME NODDING OF HEADS . OKAY WHO DO WE HAVE FIRST FIGURE IS IN A FREE US, FOLLOWED BY EARNESTINE PALMER. AREAS SO MY COMMENT IN REGARDS TO, UM COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ, I DO AGREE THAT THERE IS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES ELSEWHERE. A LOT OF PEOPLE. SEEK FOR JOBS AND OPPORTUNITIES, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE MONEY. SOMETIMES IT HAS TO DO WITH FLEXIBILITY BEING CLOSED AT HOME AND DOING SOMETHING FOR YOUR COMMUNITY. UM A LOT OF MANY, MANY YOUTH ARE LEAVING OUR TOWN BECAUSE OF LACK OF OPPORTUNITIES. 90% OF INDIAN TOWN IS COMMERCIAL. ONLY 10% IS RESIDENTIAL AND OUT OF THE 10% OF RESIDENTIAL. HOW MANY RESIDENTS WILL DO WE HAVE THAT ACTUALLY WORK? FOR US. I KNOW OF A LOT OF QUALIFYING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE, OF COURSE. UM THAT DON'T LIVE IN INDIAN TOWN, BUT THEY DO WORK FOR US AND THEY SERVE AND THEY DO GREAT AND THEY STICK WITH US, BUT, YOU KNOW, MANY OTHER YOUTHS ARE NOT EVEN APPLYING FOR THESE OPPORTUNITIES. BECAUSE THEY HAVE

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UM, THAT MAY BE WORKING FROM 8 TO 5. MAYBE WORKING A LITTLE LATER. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT LIKE, SHE SAID, IT'S HARD. TO PUT IT ON YOU GUYS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE SO MUCH.

VERSUS HIM THAT HE, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU. IT HAS TO DO WITH HUMAN RESOURCES. THANK YOU.

MADAM CLARK. NEXT SPEAKER IS VERNON'S SCHEME. PALMER FOLLOWED. BY LINDA NYT. COM.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN. UM. I'M TRYING TO TRY VERNON STEEN PALMER TRYING TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING OR ASKING, UM, COUNCILMAN APOLLO MADE A STATEMENT THAT I THINK YOU SAID IT TAKES SOME VERBAL WHICH OUT MY, AND I LISTENED TO COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ AND EVERYTHING. UH I THINK IF I'M WRONG, HELP ME. THE VERB. IT IS TOO. DISALLOW. VILLAGE MANAGER.

EXTEND THEIR POWER. IS THAT RIGHT? IS THAT IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? OKAY BECAUSE THAT EXTENDED POWER. I'M NOT HELP ME WITH MY WORDS VIOLATED THE NOTICE WITHIN SEVEN DAYS. IS THAT CORRECT? BECAUSE THE POWER HE GETS OKAY. BUT YOU MADE YOU MADE THE CHARTER AGAINST THE CHARGE. OKAY AND YOU SAID ABOUT, UM MY QUESTION IS ANYTHING IS IF HE DIDN'T DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR SEVEN DAYS WAS THAT A CONSISTENT THING OR THAT JUST HAPPENED 12 TIMES AND WAS THERE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, AND I TOTALLY AGREE AND IN EVERY FIELD THAT, UM, AND WITH THE YOUNG LADY WAS JUST SAYING LACK OF OPPORTUNITY IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WE NEED OVER 200,000 TEACHERS. WE UM ARE GLOBALLY I'M A USC TEACHER. I'M WRITING I E P S. I MEAN ALL DAY TRAINERS, THEN I GOT TO GO TO A LUNCHEON LUNCHEONS SERVE AND I GOT 20 KIDS. I HAVE TO SEE 84 KIDS AND ONE WEEK BUT WHEN YOU PULLED ME FROM ALL OF THAT, I CAN'T SEE NOBODY. SORRY ABOUT THE GRAMMAR . OKAY? I'M TEACHING LIKE, LISTEN TO ME TALKING, Y'ALL FORGIVENESS RIGHT BACK THERE. I WANT MY MINUTE BACK, SO I'M I'M JUST I DON'T I AGREE. ANY POWER NEED TO BE HMM. NEED TO BE ACCOUNTABLE. I GET THAT, BUT I ALSO GET THAT. LIKE THE YOUNG LADY SAID WHAT THE LACK OF OPPORTUNITY END THE REVOLVING DOOR GOING BACK AND FORTH. YOU CAN'T TAKE ALL THE POWER AWAY FROM THE VILLAGE MANAGER. HE HAS TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. HOWEVER I AGREE THAT IF YOU ALL SAID WITHIN SEVEN DAYS, IT NEEDS TO BE WITHIN SEVEN DAYS . AND IF AND IF THAT MEANS WE NEED IF YOU KNOW IN ANY BUSINESS IF IT'S A CONSISTENT THING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

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I MEAN, JUST THINK ABOUT IT IN YOUR OWN POSITIONS AND PROFESSIONS. UM WE GOT THE FORMER POLICE ARE I'M DONE. NEXT SPEAKER, HIS LINDEN ICOM, FOLLOWED BY TONY'S WHINER. MADE ME LAUGH AGAIN. UM, LINDEN, I COME FOR THE RECORD. UM MOST OF WHAT? UM I HAVE BEEN HAD BUILDING UP WHILE I'M SITTING HERE ROCKING THEM. MY SEAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID. YOU GUYS MADE THE CHARTER. YOU SET UP THE RULES. YOU OPTED. TO CHANGE THE RULES AND THEY WERE BROKEN AND THERE WAS NO CONSEQUENCES. FOR THOSE BROKEN RULES. THE SUGGESTION THAT I'VE HEARD THAT THE POSSIBLE AMENDMENT IS TO GO BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL STAND. GO BACK TO THE RULES THAT WE SET UP AT AT THE BEGINNING IF THERE ARE TO BE ANY EXTRAORDINARY BENEFITS OFFERED IN ORDER TO SNAG SOME SOME EMPLOYEE THAT IS INDISPENSABLE. THEN IT SHOULD BE UP TO THE COUNCIL TO GO OVER AND BEYOND THE WHAT THE CHARTER AND THE PERSONAL MANAGEMENT HAS ALREADY APPROVED OF TO BEND IT JUST TO MAKE IT CONVENIENT IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO BE MAKING YOUR RULES. UM YOU YOU BEND THEM ONCE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BEND THEM AGAIN. THANK YOU. TONY'S WHINER, FOLLOWED BY MARJORIE MAN. MADAM MIRROR COUNCIL STAFF. GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU. AS I'M SITTING HERE, LISTENING, I'M THINKING SOME THOUGHTS AND YOU'VE REALLY GIVING ME A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THIS THAT I WASN'T AWARE OF ONE. I WANT TO STAND ON THE GROUNDS THAT OUR CHARTER IS OUR CONSTITUTION. INDIAN TOWNS CONSTITUTION. NO QUESTION ABOUT WHAT IT SAYS. YOU THE COUNCIL.

THE EMPLOYEES OF THE COMMUNITY. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND MAYBE I'M WRONG. REFERENDUM WAS HELD.

YOUR CONSTITUENTS SAID NO. BUT YOU DID IT. THAT'S OKAY. IT'S NOT OKAY, BUT OKAY, YOU DID IT.

IF YOU WANT THIS. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS, BUT PERHAPS IT'S NECESSARY TO GO BACK AND CHANGE THE CHARTER. TO FIT THE NEED. BUT RIGHT NOW I'M LISTENING TO THEM. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ SAYING THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE IN OUR EMPLOYEE LEAVING LEFT AND RIGHT. YOU GAVE THIS TO VILLAGE MANAGER. AND YET WE STILL HAVE UNDER THAT GUIDANCE THAT AUTHORITY PEOPLE LEFT AND RIGHT, LEAVING US. APPARENTLY, IT'S NOT WORKING. BUT SOME MEN THAT CHARTERED THEN LET'S FIND THE ANSWER. I LIKE WHAT SHE SAID. LET'S FIND OUR ANSWER. THIS, ISN'T IT? THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS MARJORIE MAN, FOLLOWED BY LAURA HERNANDEZ. MARGIE, MAN. AND I WANTED TO. FIRST OF ALL, TELL YOU ALL ALL OF YOU. WORKING HARD. PEOPLE MIGHT NOT RECOGNIZE IT. THEY MIGHT EVEN SAY OH, I DON'T LIKE HER. I DON'T LIKE HIM. BUT THIS IS NOT ABOUT THAT.

IT WAS VOTED BECAUSE OF THE TURNAROUND. POSITIONS HAVE ALLOCATED WITHIN THE BUDGET. HOW MUCH OR WHAT CAN BE OFFERED. BUT AT THE LAST MOMENT, YES WHAT IT'S NOT ABOUT ME. IT'S ABOUT US. WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER. DOESN'T MATTER WHAT POSITION YOU HAVE, WHETHER YOU'RE THE BOSS FOR THE CLEANING LADY. IT'S ABOUT US. WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF WE ALL WORK TOGETHER. DR IMMUNITY. AND ALL OF YOU. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS LAURA HERNANDEZ. GOOD EVENING TO

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CHRISTOPHE YOU CAN PLEASE AND MEET YOUR MIKE. IF YOU STILL WANT TO SPEAK AND PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME FOR THE RECORD. HI MY NAME IS CHRIS TO MILEY. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR AND BOARD.

UM I WAS JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM THE DECISION IS TO STRIP OUR VILLAGE MANAGER OF HIS POP UP HIS, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE POWER AND TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL RULES, THEN WHO WOULD MAKE ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS? AND I WOULD POST THIS QUESTION BASED ON THE CHARTER SECTION FOR VILLAGE COUNCIL. UM. THE FACT THAT, UH, NUMBER SIX, SECTION EIGHT AND IF YOU JUST GIVE ME A SECOND, READ IT REALLY QUICK. SO IT'S PROHIBITIONS SECTION EIGHT, AND IT READS NEITHER THE COUNCIL NOR ANY INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL SHALL IN ANY MANNER ATTEMPT TO DICTATE THE EMPLOYMENT OR REMOVAL OF ANY EMPLOYEE OTHER THAN THE VILLAGE MANAGER AND THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY . THE COUNSELORS FREE TO MAKE INQUIRIES, VILLAGE EMPLOYEES, BUT NO INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL SHOULD GIVE ORDERS TO ANY OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE OF THE VILLAGE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND VILLAGE GOVERNMENT OPERATION SHOULD COPY WITH VILLAGE MANAGER FOR EACH MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL SHOULD BE FREE TO DISCUSS OR RECOMMEND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE VILLAGE MANAGER AND THE COUNCIL IS FREE TO DIRECT THE VILLAGE MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS. FOR IMPROVEMENT AND VILLAGE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS SO AGAIN, IT SAYS

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DOESN'T AND SO THE ORIGINAL CHARTER SAYS THAT HE HAS ALL THAT AUTHORITY. HE STILL HAS THAT AUTHORITY. MAYOR JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC, JUST AS AS YOU SAID, SO. THAT PROVISION THAT PROHIBITION THAT'S NORMALLY CALLED A NON INTERFERENCE PROVISIONS. ALRIGHT? AND WHEN IO DICTATE THE EMPLOYMENT OR REMOVAL THAT, SAYS THE COUNCIL INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN'T SAY, HEY, HIRE THIS GUY OR HEY, FIRE THIS GUY THAT'S OUT OF BOUNDS AND THAT'S VERY COMMON WITH AND, UM WHAT IT WHAT IS AT ISSUE IN THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE IT IS NOT THE REMOVAL OF THE GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE POWER OF THE OF THE VILLAGE MANAGER. IT'S THAT DISCRETE TWO SENTENCES OF AUTHORITY THAT WAS ADDED MANY MONTHS AGO. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION. YES SIR. UH OKAY . SO, SPEAKING OF THIS, FIRST OF ALL MR VOTES, CAN YOU CONFIRM IF WE'RE GOING AGAINST THE CHARTER , BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, I DOUBT WE WOULD VOTE FOR THAT IF WE WERE GOING AGAINST THE CHARTER. SO CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY THAT TOO, SO PEOPLE COULD UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT GOING AGAINST THE CHARTER. SLOWLY PUT IT TO YOU THIS WAY. AND I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT THIS EXACT ISSUE. FOLKS HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE ELECTION THAT WAS HAD WHERE THERE WAS ON THE BALLOT TO CHANGE THAT PROVISION CONCERNING PERSONNEL REGULATIONS. AND SO ON THAT, UH THAT CHARTER AMENDMENT FAILED. ALRIGHT. FOLKS HAVE SPOKEN IN THE PUBLIC, SAYING THAT THAT WAS THE VOTERS IN INDIAN TOWN SPEAKING TO THIS ISSUE, ALL RIGHT. THE POLITICAL STATEMENT. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION ABOUT TO MAKE A POLITICAL STATEMENT THAT THAT THIS EXTENSION OF AUTHORITY IN YOUR PERSONNEL REGULATIONS IS CONTRARY TO THE INTENTIONS OF THAT VOTE, OR OF THAT CHARTER PROVISIONS. IS A COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE POLITICAL STATEMENT. ALL RIGHT. LEGALLY. I WILL TELL YOU IT WAS LEGAL TO PASS THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU ALL PASSED BEFORE I WOULD NOT HAVE DRAFTED IT OR OR I WOULD NOT HAVE PARTICIPATED IN YOUR IN YOUR HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT. IF I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS LEGAL IT LEGALLY VIOLATED THE CHART. OKAY. HOWEVER, THE. POLITICAL ARGUMENT THAT THE VOTERS HAVE SPOKEN ON THAT. COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE ARGUMENT AND I DON'T GET INTO POLITICAL ARGUMENTS AS TO ANY OF THIS. SO IT IS A IS WITHIN THE REALM OF PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE DECISIONS TO SAY. WE BELIEVE WE'VE HEARD THE VOTERS AND THIS IS THE DIRECTIONS TO BE DONE. LEGALLY IT WAS. I BELIEVE IT WAS WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF WHAT THE CHARTER ALLOWS. THANK YOU. UM SO THAT BEING SAID, OBVIOUSLY , WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL HERE. AND ALSO I'M SO SICK OF HEARING ABOUT THIS SEVEN DAY NOTICED THAT HE DIDN'T GIVE IT'S BEEN THREE MONTHS. COME ON, PEOPLE. LET'S GET OVER IT. SIX MONTHS. IT'S BEEN LONG ENOUGH. LET'S DONE WITH THAT. IT'S OLD. PEOPLE ARE SICK OF HEARING THAT NOW LET'S MOVE ON. UH SO THAT BEING SAID, I'M STILL TALKING. THAT BEING SAID. I'M AGAINST THIS. PROPOSED. OKAY THEN YOU CAN VOTE THAT WAY WHEN WE VOTE, SO THAT'S MY SPEECH. THANK YOU, MR BROWN FROM WHATEVER YOU STRIPPING IT FROM, IT'S GOING TO HURT THE VILLAGE. SO I'M OPPOSED TO THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, SO WE'RE MOVING ON. SO WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE. WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY MOTION YET. DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ORDINANCE? YES I HAVE EMOTION THAT WE DISMANTLED THIS. VOTE ON IT. I HAVE A MOTION THAT WE GET RID OF THIS. OKAY? RID OF WHAT THIS AGENDA.

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MOTION HAS DIED FOR LACK OF SECOND. WE'RE MOVING ON. WE DO HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEM THAT WAS ADDED AT THE VERY BEGINNING. UH I REQUESTED DISCUSSION ITEM ON THE WEEKLY MEETINGS WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH THE VILLAGE MANAGER. UM MY CONCERN IS. THAT WE EACH MEET WITH THE VILLAGE MANAGER, UM, WEEKLY THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED AT THE VERY BEGINNING. WHEN WE WERE FIRST STARTING OUT, AND, UM I THINK IT WAS A TRAINING THING AND INFORMATION THING. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE TIME THAT THAT TAKES THAT TAKES 20% TAKES A FULL DAY OUT OF HIS TIME. I'VE HEARD HE'S DOING A LOT. HE'S BUSY. I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE HIM BACK HIS TIME FREE UP HIS TIME HE DOES THE MANAGERS BI WEEKLY UPDATE A WEALTH OF INFORMATION. WE'VE HEARD THAT HOW MUCH INFORMATION IS ON THERE. UM I THINK, UH, THOSE ONE ON ONES MEETINGS. IT, UM IT LENDS TO UM. THE OPPORTUNITY. THAT THERE MAY BE, UM SOME ISSUES WITH SUNSHINE. ALSO COMMUNICATIONS YOU SAY AH, WELL, IT'LL IT'LL HIT AND INHIBIT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATIONS IF WE DON'T MEET WITH HIM, NOT SAYING DON'T MEET WITH HIM. I'M SAYING THOSE REGULARLY SCHEDULED 12 TO OUR MEETINGS. I THINK WE NEED TO SCALE THOSE BACK. WE NEED TO ALLOW HIM TO HAVE HIS TIME.

WATCH THE BI WEEKLY UPDATES. IF THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH EACH OF US, I THINK EMAIL TEXT IS A LOT QUICKER. AND THAT IS MY THOUGHT. THAT'S THE DISCUSSION ITEM.

ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING? SO YOU'RE PROPOSING FOR US TO NOT MEET WITH THE DURABILITY MANAGER ? NOT LIKE WE HAVE. I THINK IT'S EXCESSIVE. WELL THAT'S ON YOUR PART, BUT I REALLY LIKE TO BE INFORMED ON EVERY UPDATE IN REGARDS OF WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU KNOW, CONSTITUENTS COMPACT. TO US, AND THEY TALKED TO US AND HOW TO. WELL, WE ADDRESS THIS WHEN WE DON'T MEET WITH THE VILLAGE MANAGER ISN'T OUR DUTY TO INFORM OUR CONSTITUENTS IN REGARDS OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE VILLAGE LEGISLATIVE AROUND TOWN. LIKE HOW DO I NOT HAVE A MEETING WITH THE VILLAGE MANAGER? IF YOU DON'T WANT TO MEET WITH HIM, THAT'S FINE. YOU KNOW, IT'S ON EVERYONE'S INDIVIDUAL BASIS. BUT I. I'M GOING TO MEET WITH HIM. SO THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? GO AHEAD? YES. UH, I MEAN, TO PROPOSE THAT I JUST THINK IT'S LUDICROUS, REALLY. BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. THAT'S BRAND NEW AND HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET UP TO DATE WITH WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON? IF THEY WAIT ON A TWO WEEK UH OR BI MONTHLY, UM REPORT. THEY'RE NOT GONNA KNOW ANYTHING. THEY NEED TO MEET WITH THE MANAGER. SO THAT WAY THEY COULD DISCUSS THE AGENDA AND I KNOW PERSONALLY I'M GOING TO BE MEETING WITH THE MANAGER BECAUSE I WANT TO STAY UP TO DATE.

ANYBODY ELSE? THE PROPOSAL WAS NOT TO NOT MEET WITH HIM. AND SO AND OKAY, I UNDERSTAND I WOULD ENCOURAGE MR VOS IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THE VILLAGE MANAGER ABOUT VIOLATIONS OF SUNSHINE.

AND WHAT A CONDUIT IS AND IS NOT. AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. OUR NEXT ANNOUNCEMENT IS OR

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