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CHAIR PALMER. VICE CHAIR, MILEY PRESENT. BOARD MEMBER, PRESSLER. HERE TO BOARD MEMBERS. SO HAYEK, WILLIAMS. LOCATION. REGARDING HEAVEN. WE COME NOW. CLOSE OVER ANOTHER DAY. THANK YOU HAVING A FATHER FOR ALIGNED US TO BE IN THIS DAY. CONTINUE TO GO WITH US AND STAND BY SOME HELPING THE FATHER. FROM WHAT SPIRITUAL DEGREE OF GRACE. I DON'T KNOW. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING A FATHER TOO. KEEP US CIVIC MINDED AND OUR DEPARTMENT. WORDS ARE MILD IN THE MEDITATION OF OUR HEARTS BE ACCEPTABLE. IN YOUR SIGHT. ALTHOUGH LORD STRENGTHEN OUR REDEEM A IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS. WE PRAY AMEN. JUST TOO FAR. NO, I SAID SEVERAL AMERICA AND PROBABLY. THAT'S FOR ALL.
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APPROVAL OF AGENDA. PROMOTION I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR THE LAST MEETING.SECOND OKAY? ALRIGHT APPROVAL OF MINUTE. REMEMBER SORRY, BOARD MEMBER, PRESSLER. SORRY YES OR NO? WHAT? OH, YES. SORRY, THAT'S OK. BOARD MEMBERS, A HAYEK. GUEST MEMBER WILLIAMS YES, BOARD MEMBER OR VICE CHAIR. MILEY PALMER. YES. THANK YOU, OKAY. APPROVAL OF MINUTES. MINUTES OF
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THE PCB MEETING OF JUNE 2ND 2022. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PC. A MEETING OF JUNE 2ND 2022. A SECOND. BOARD MEMBER, PRESSLER. YES. FOUR MEMBERS OF HAYEK. YES REMEMBER WILLIAMS? YES, MILEY. YES, PALMER. YES. THANK YOU, OKAY. ALRIGHT, REGULAR AGENDA.[2.
Application No. LDR-22-017, Request To Amend The Village Of Indiantown Land Development Regulations To Amend Live/Work Unit Parking Ratios
]NUMBER TWO APPLICATION NUMBER LD R 22 OH 17 REQUEST TO AMEND THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION TWO MEN LIVE WORK UNIT PARKING RATIOS. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, VICE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. PRETTY EVENING STAFF IS BRINGING TO YOU TONIGHT. THIS RECOMMENDATION FOR A CHANGE IN THE LIVE WORK UNIT PARKING RATIOS. NEXT SLIDE. SO THE PROPOSED REGULATION INCLUDES AN AMENDMENT TO THE ACTUAL RATIO GOING FROM 2 TO 1.5. PARKING SPACES PER UNIT. OF SLIME. AS YOU KNOW THE PROCESSES THAT BRINGS YOU A RECOMMENDATION. YOU THEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL. THEN WE'LL HAVE FINAL APPROVAL AUTHORITY NEXT SLIDE. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE P C I D MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE APPLICATION NUMBER L D R DASH 22-172. THE INDIAN TOWN LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. AT THIS TIME STAFF WILL TAKE QUESTIONS. COMMENTS CONCERNS. I GUESS I DO.UM I NOTICED THAT ON THE SHEET FROM THE VILLAGE FROM THE STAFF THAT THE WORD, SAYS ANALYSIS.
IT'S NOT ANSWERED. IT'S INCOMPLETE. IT SAYS THE AMENDMENT, AS PROPOSED WOULD BE
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CONSISTENT WITH THE VILLAGES. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY AND THEN THERE ISN'T ANYTHING AFTER THAT.OH, I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. IF FOR ANY REASON YOU WANT TO POSTPONE IT, BECAUSE OF THAT WE CAN FIX THAT. I MAY HAVE CUT THE CONFIDENCE OF PLAN. POLICIES OUT BY MISTAKE. PUTTING THEM ON NOTICE. THE OTHER THING THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND. THERE'S IS THAT, UM IT SAYS AFTER UNDER THE BACKGROUND SECTION, IT SAYS AFTER REVIEWING THE RESIDENT AND EMPLOYEE PARKING RATIOS. UM IT WAS DETERMINED BY STAFF THAT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS EXCEEDED WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THESE UNITS. THERE ISN'T ANY. INFORMATION THERE. THERE ISN'T ANY EVIDENCE THERE.
UH THERE ISN'T EVEN ANY REASONING BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE TABLE THAT WE HAVE NOW THE WE REQUIRE TWO PARKING UNITS FOR ANY SINGLE FAMILY. LIVING SITUATION, WHETHER IT BE A MOBILE HOME OR ANYTHING ELSE. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE REASONING OR THE ANALYSIS FOR THE RECOMMENDATION WHEN YOU HAVE, UG DOWN TO 1.5. SPACE IS REDUCING IT. BUT IN FACT WHAT YOU HAVE IS YOU SHOULD HAVE TWO PARKING SPACES FOR THOSE THAT ARE LIVING THERE. THE MEMBERS OF THE IMMEDIATE FAMILY SO I PUT DOWN TO AND THEN YOU HAVE. THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE UP TO TWO EMPLOYEES OR CONTRACTORS PUT DOWN ANOTHER TWO AND THEN THEY'RE ALLOWED THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE. UM ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE UP TO, UM WELL, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE ONE SPACE PER EMPLOYEE AND THEN 30 VISITS PER WEEK FROM CUSTOMERS CLIENTS SUPPLIERS TO NO MORE THAN 30 VISITS PER WEEK NOW. IT SEEMS TO ME WE'RE JUST SETTING UP A SITUATION THAT WOULD LOGICALLY REQUIRE A LOT OF MARTIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT CALLS AND CONFLICT BETWEEN ONE UNIT RIGHT NEXT TO THE OTHER UNIT WHEN YOU HAVE A HALF A SPACE OKAY? I DON'T SEE ANY REASONING IN THE ANALYSIS BY STAFF. WHAT I CAN DO IS TELL YOU VERBALLY BASED ON STAFF'S RESEARCH, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW IF AT THE PLEASURE OF THIS BOARD, WE CAN CONTINUE THIS ITEM SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A FULL STAFF REPORT THAT WE WERE WE PREPARED. WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS THAT WE LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES, INCLUDING STEWART AND CO. V. AND WE LOOKED AT THE PARKING RATIO REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL AND MORE SPECIFICALLY YOUR MULTI FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE IN MOST CASES, WELL, IN ALL CASES, THAT'S WHAT WE WILL SEE THE LIVE WORK UNITS. SO IN STUART. IT'S UH, TWO PER UNIT. PLUS ANY NON RESIDENTIAL USE. SO ANYTHING ON THE TABLE THAT YOU REFERRED TO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT WAS AN OFFICE . IT WOULD BE THE TWO SPACES. PLUS. AH, FIND OFFICE ON HERE.
ANOTHER TWO SPACES PER EACH 1000 SQUARE FEET. A FLOOR AREA. SO IN STUART THAT WOULD EQUATE TO THREE SPACES. CHOBE. A ONE BEDROOM, WHICH. WHICH MOST OF THE LIVE WORK UNITS WILL WILL BE. THEY WILL EITHER BE ONE OR TWO BEDROOMS. THEY'RE NOT USUALLY BIG UNITS. IT'S 1.75 SPACES. AND THEN THE SAME TYPE OF CALCULATION, PLUS THE NON RESIDENTIAL USE PORTION. THAT'S HOW THEY CALCULATED SO IN THEIR CODE OFFICE IS, UM ONE SPACE. PER 300 SQUARE FEET. BASED ON WHAT I FOUND. IN THE CASE OF THE UNITS WE'VE HAD SO FAR, OR AT LEAST THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED THEIR 800 SQUARE FEET IN CASABLANCA. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR CODE AGAIN GOING BACK TO OFFICE USE, WHICH IS MOST LIKELY WHAT WE'LL SEE. IT'S TWO SPACES PER 1000 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA. SO. REALLY? THE UNITS ARE NOT LARGE ENOUGH FOR THE FALL TWO SPACES. AND YOU WOULD END UP AT JUST ONE ADDITIONAL SPACE BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO ROUND THAT UP TO
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CALCULATE IT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY 800 SQUARE FEET. LET ME QUESTIONS YOU, SAID 1.75 PER 1000 SQUARE FEET. NO OKEECHOBEE . I'M TALKING TO YOU NOW ABOUT INDIAN TOWN, OKEECHOBEE FOR ONE BEDROOM IS 1.75 FACES FOR A TWO BEDROOM IS TWO SPACES FOR A MULTI FAMILY UNIT. BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO ADD ON THE RESIDENTIAL I MEAN, THE NON RESIDENTIAL AND OUR CODE, AS YOU'VE ALREADY OUTLINED REQUIRES NOT JUST THE 1.5 THAT WERE PROPOSING, BUT THEN WE ADD ON THE ADDITIONAL SPACES FOR THE EMPLOYEES, ETCETERA. SO IT'S REALLY NOT JUST 1.5 PER UNIT AS YOU POINTED OUT YOURSELF. THERE IS ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR EMPLOYEES. I DON'T SEE THAT IN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. UM I MEAN , I SEE THE REDUCTION FROM TWO SPACES TO 1.5. AND SIMPLY THAT.RIGHT? RIGHT YOU JUST DID THE CALCULATION YOURSELF, AND I DON'T HAVE THAT SPECIFIC.
REGULATION IN FRONT OF ME, BUT YOU USE THE CALCULATION YOU YOU MENTIONED THAT WE ALSO ADD ON THE ADDITIONAL SPACES FOR TWO EMPLOYEES. THAT'S ALWAYS ADDED, AND WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT.
OKAY SO THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE FOUR. PARKING SPACES PER UNIT. IF THEY HAD TWO EMPLOYEES, BUT PEOPLE MOVE IN AND OUT. THESE ARE RENTALS. THAT'S TRUE. SO IF SOMEONE WERE TO MOVE OUT, AND THEY WANTED TO USE THE UNIT AS A LIVE WORK UNIT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME TO THE VILLAGE FOR A CERTIFICATE OF USE, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A NEW BUSINESS IN THAT SPACE. UM, YOU CAN'T JUST CHANGE YOUR BUSINESS, EVEN IF IT'S THE SAME BUSINESS AND NOW THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE TRAFFIC THAN THEY DID BEFORE. THEY CAN'T JUST CHANGE THEIR BUSINESS WITHOUT LETTING THE VILLAGE NO. WITHOUT LETTING THE COUNTY NO. SO WE WOULD BE MADE AWARE IF SOMEONE MOVED OUT, AND I KNOW AT THAT POINT, THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE BUILT. BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT VERY SMALL UNITS, AND WE'RE TYPICALLY TALKING ABOUT OFFICE USES WHEREBY OUR OWN CODE REQUIRES REALLY ONE SPACE PER 500 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA. BUT CASA BELLA, AND ARE WE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THAT ? THAT DEVELOPMENT ARE WE BACKING UP OR AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF THE CO CHANGE. BUT I JUST GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF THE SIZES OF THE UNITS AND KASABIAN BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONLY LIVE WORK UNITS. IN THE VILLAGE. I GAVE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. WELL, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE 20 PARKING SPACES. THEY HAVE 10 UNITS, RIGHT? WE HAVE AND AN ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS. IN WHICH IN THE DOWNTOWN AND OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS WE CAN REDUCE THE PARKING WE CAN WHAT WE CAN REDUCE THE PARKING OR REDUCE THE PARKING PURSUANT TO CODE. TO WHAT PURSUANT TO OUR CODE. WE CAN FURTHER REDUCE THE TOTAL PARKING REQUIRED IF THEY'RE IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS, INCLUDING THE DOWNTOWN. VILLAGE MIXED USE AND IT COULD BE ONE OR TWO OTHER WELL. I GUESS. I MEAN, WHAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION IS THE LIVE WORK UNITS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS EVEN IF IT WEREN'T LIVE WORK. THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IF IT'S IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT VILLAGE MIXED USE AND I BELIEVE ONE OR TWO OTHERS SELECT ZONING DISTRICTS. THE PARKING CAN BE REDUCED. BY 50% AND THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS. SO ONCE WE CALCULATE THE TOTAL THAT'S REQUIRED BECAUSE WE HAVE IN OUR COMP PLAN. AND THEREFORE OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS THAT WE WANT THIS COMMUNITY TO BE WALKABLE. WE DON'T WANT A LOT OF CARS, SO THE IDEA IS ESPECIALLY IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO, BY AND LARGE WHAT TO WHERE THEY NEED TO SHOP. WALK TO WHERE THEY NEED TO ENTERTAIN. UM AND SO THE PARKING HAS THAT PRIVILEGE OF BEING REDUCED IN THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT, BUT WE DO CALCULATE THE TOTAL REQUIRED PARKING, JUST LIKE YOU DID USING WHAT'S IN THE TABLE WE TALKED ABOUT, PLUS THE GUEST PARKING SOMETIMES IF IT'S MULTIFAMILY, UM, SAY IT'S A THREE BEDROOM TOWNHOUSE. THEY HAVE TO NOT JUST HAVE THEY REQUIRED PARKING. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT GUEST PARKING,
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WHICH IS CALCULATED IN OUR TABLE. AND ON TOP OF THAT. AH! WE WOULD ADD ANY ADDITIONAL REQUIRED PARKING AND UPON ALL THE TOTALS MADE. IF THEY'RE IN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS THEY CAN REQUEST PURSUANT TO OUR CODE BECAUSE WE ALLOW IT TO REDUCE THE PARKING THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WOULD DO THAT OR THE RENTAL THE APPLICANT BECAUSE, REMEMBER, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. FROM A BLANK SLATE. IT'S ARE REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR FROM WHAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON TONIGHT. IF IT IS YOUR PLEASURE AND THAT OF THE REST OF THE BOARD, WE CAN BRING THIS ITEM BACK. AND THEN YOU'RE HAPPY ANALYSIS IN FRONT OF YOU AND YOU'LL SEE THE RESEARCH THAT WE DID TO FIND THAT AND ACTUALLY, IN SOME COMMUNITIES, THEY HAVE A PARKING MAXIMUM BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S JUST NOT A SEA OF CONCRETE. AND THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY TRYING TO BUILD TO SUIT. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE REGULATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED THAT SAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE WALKABLE. WE WANT THINGS THAT A SCALE WHERE PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE WALKING ON THE SIDEWALKS, AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE ACHIEVED THAT. WE NEVER WILL. IF WE DON'T ALLOW IT. WELL I MEAN THE WALK ABILITY GOAL SHOULD BE AT LEAST UNDERWAY OR VISIBLE. BEFORE WE START. THIS IS DATING, YOU KNOW? GOING DOWN TO 1.5 PARKING SPACES AND ATTACHMENT A THEN UM, WOULD REALLY BE THE INFORMATION ON ATTACHMENT A IS NOT ADEQUATE. WELL WHEN YOU SAY IT'S NOT ADEQUATE. I BELIEVE YOU'RE INDICATING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THE COLD LANGUAGE FROM THE L D R RATHER THAN THE THREE ASTERISKS THAT IS TYPICAL OF HOW AN ORDINANCE LANGUAGE WOULD LOOK BECAUSE THERE'S SO I BELIEVE I PRINTED OUT THE ENTIRE SECTION WHERE THIS IS AFFECTED, AND IT WAS SEVEN PAGES. AND TO GIVE YOU SEVEN PAGES OF TEXT WHEN WE ARE ONLY CROSSING OUT TWO LINES. OF THOSE SEVEN PAGES.IT'S UNNECESSARY. THIS IS THE WAY IT'S DONE. I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR FROM THAT. BUT WE CAN ADD MORE LANGUAGE. IF IT'S THE PLEASURE OF THIS BOARD, BUT I WOULD NEVER SUGGEST PUTTING IN THE ENTIRE CHAPTER WHEN WE'RE STRIKING THROUGH TWO LINES. LOOK UP THAT SECTION 34.9, WHICH I HAVE HERE. AND THAT, UM. IT UH, YOU KNOW THE SECTION THERE ARE THREE B, C AND D MARKS OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE AND HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS ALLOWED IN THE LIVE WORK UNIT , AND THAT IS FOR A MAXIMUM FOR EACH THAT LIVE WORK UNIT THAT'S 800 SQUARE FEET. WHERE WHERE ARE YOU LOOKING? THREE. 4.9 SECTION THREE. B C AND D OR A ADDRESSES THE 800 SQUARE FEET. THE MINIMUM SIZE FOR EACH LIVE WORK UNIT IS 800 SQUARE FEET. PARDON ME. PARDON ME. MEMBER PRESSLER, HUH ? YES, THAT IS THE LANGUAGE AND THE CODE. BUT THAT'S NOT BEING CHANGED. THAT'S WHY THE PART I'M TRYING TO POINT OUT, THOUGH, IS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WILL COME AND GO. HOW MANY EMPLOYEES BESIDES THE AH, MEMBERS OF THE IMMEDIATE FAMILY THAT LIVED THERE. AND I DO NOT SEE IN A REASONABLE WAY. HOW THAT CAN BE REDUCED TO 1.5. TO HAVE ONE PARKING SPACE AND THEN A SHARED PARKING SPACE. THANK YOU. WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THIS BOARD? DO WE WANT TO UM OH, I'M SORRY. SO SORRY. WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WORD? UM ACCEPTING WHAT? UM STAFF HAVE BROUGHT FORTH OR DO WE WANT TO TABLE THIS? UM, ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RE TABLE THIS ITEM SO THAT WE COULD HAVE ALL THE NECESSARY INFORMATION TO MAKE A INFORMED DECISION. SECOND, OKAY? MEMBER OF PRESSLER. YES TO HER MOTION. YES, REMEMBERS TO HAYEK. A MILE
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OUT TO, UH, PINE ON TO JOIN, BELIEVE THAT I AM CORRECT YOU HERE. ALL YOU'RE DOING IS SAYING YES OR NO? UM I JUST WANT TO CHECK WITH YOUR ATTORNEY. IF I'M YEAH, BUT IT'S JUST A HIKE. I RECOMMEND BASED ON PREVIOUS CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD THAT, UM THAT YOU ABSTAIN FROM THE VOTE ON ON THE ON THE TABLE. RIGHT RIGHT. I JUST I DIDN'T. I DIDN'T KNOW IF I NEEDED TO BECAUSE IT WAS JUST TABLING IT. BUT WHATEVER WHATEVER. NEVERTHELESS I'D RECOMMEND IT IN THIS INSTANCE. HAPPY TO SO HAPPY TO RECUSE AND OBLIGED. THANK YOU . THANK YOU, VILLAGE ATTORNEY AND VILLAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT I DO THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND JUST TO STATED FOR THE RECORD, MR SAHA HIKE AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THE MATTER AND IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THIS RELATES TO LIVE WORK UNITS I RECOMMENDED TO HIM THAT HE WOULD RECUSE HIMSELF ON ANY ACTIONS RELATING TO THIS ITEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBER WILLIAMS. VICE CHAIR. MILEY PALMER. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY? OKAY, UM ITEM THREE. APPLICATION NUMBER LD R 22-0 TO 9 REQUEST TO[3.
Application No. LDR-22-029, Request To Amend The Village Of Indiantown Land Development Regulations To Permit The Fencing Of Vacant Properties In Single-Family Residential Neighborhoods.
]AMEND THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO PERMIT THE FENCING OF VACANT PROPERTIES AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. OKAY, COME STAFF. AGAIN GOOD EVENING, JEFFERSON. DIRECTOR. SO, WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSED CHANGE , THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT GOT CONTINUED FROM LAST MONTH AS WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM. AND IT WAS FORTUNATE THAT WE DIDN'T BECAUSE I HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE VILLAGE MANAGER, SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, WHO THEN ASKED WHAT THE RESEARCH LOOKED LIKE FOR. OTHER COMMUNITIES. AND. WE SHARED WITH HIM. WHAT OUR OPINION RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, AND THAT IS TO NOT CHANGE THIS PORTION OF THE CODE AND THEREFORE, IN YOUR PACKAGE THAT YOU HAD LAST MONTH, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN A DIFFERENT REPORT THAN WHAT YOU RECEIVED IN THIS PACKET. BUT THIS IS THE REPORT THAT YOU'RE TAKING ACTION ON. SO WITH THAT. UH, YOU CAN RUN THROUGHOUT THE SIDES ONE BY ONE. IT'S REALLY JUST A MATTER OF STAFF, HAVING BEEN DIRECTED TO. PROVIDE FOR THE VILLAGE AND ITS REGULATIONS WHAT THE COUNTY HAS IN THEIR CODE PERCENT TO REGARDING FENCING AROUND VACANT LOTS. STAFF. WENT TO THE COUNTY CODE. AND. IT WAS A SITUATION WHERE NOT ALL TYPES OF LOTS OR ZONING OR USES ARE PERMITTED TO HAVE. FENCING AS FAR AS VACANT LOTS. THAT WAS NOT THE CASE AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT IN MARTIN COUNTY THEY ALLOW FENCES ON VACANT LOTS THAT ARE ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY USE. EVEN WHEN.HOUSE IS NOT THERE. SO. THAT'S WHAT WE FOUND ONLY IN SINGLE FOR SINGLE FAMILY USES. SO THE PROCESS YOU KNOW, WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT SLIDE, BUT I WANT TO DISCUSS WITH YOU SOME OF THE RESEARCH THAT WAS DONE. TO LET YOU KNOW THAT BY AND LARGE WITH STAFF FOUND WAS THAT COMMUNITIES DO NOT ALLOW FENCING AROUND VACANT PARCELS. HMM. AND IN OUR OPINION. THIS WASN'T IN THE CODE , AND WE'RE PROPOSING OR RECOMMENDING IT NOT BE CHANGED BECAUSE IT IS THE STANDARD AND MANY COMMUNITIES NOT TO HAVE FENCING ALLOWED AROUND BACON PROPERTIES. THEY CAN TURN INTO AN EYESORE. IF YOU CAN IMAGINE HAVING A STREET OF HOUSES IN A ROW AND ONE OR TWO LOTS ALL OF A SUDDEN, HAVE A FENCE AROUND IT AND YOUR MINDS IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE A CHAIN LINK FENCE. BUT LET'S SAY IT'S A WOOD FENCE. I CAN'T SEE BEHIND IT. THERE MAY BEGIN TO, UM, HAVE ISSUES OF DUMPING
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TRASH, BERMAN. AND IT WILL AFFECT THE NEIGHBORS AND THE CODE OFFICER CANNOT GO. ONTO SOMEONE'S PROPERTY. UM TO. TO SEE YOU KNOW IF THERE IS A TRASH RATS OR ANYTHING THAT IT'S NOT VACANT ANYMORE. SO AND SINCE. WOODEN FENCES ARE PERMITTED IN THE VILLAGE. SO THERE'S NOTHING TO PRECLUDE SOMEONE FROM PUTTING UP A WOOD FENCE. IF WE ALLOW THIS FENCING. AROUND VACANT PROPERTIES. SO STAFF ALSO FOUND THAT PORT ST LUCIE ONLY ALLOWS FENCING. ON DOUBLE LATTES AND A DOUBLE LIGHT. WE HAVE SOME HERE. ACTUALLY A DOUBLE LIFE IS WHEN THERE IS A HOME ON A ON A LOT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE OWNER ALSO OWNS THE VACANT LOT NEXT TO IT. AND THEY MAY DECIDE TO USE THAT VACANT LOT NEXT TO IT THAT THEY OWN FOR RECREATIONAL USE. MAYBE THEY PUT A PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT FOR THE GRANDCHILDREN OR A POOL OR, BUT THEY FENCE IN BOTH THE LOT WITH THE HOUSE AND THE LOT WITH EITHER NOTHING OR OR SOMETHING THERE ACCESSORY THEY FENCED IT IN. THAT'S CALLED A DOUBLE LINE, AND THAT'S THE ONLY INSTANCE AND WHERE PORT SAINT LUCIE WILL ALLOW FENCING AROUND. UM VACANT LOTS IS WHEN IT'S A DOUBLE LIGHT SITUATION. IT'S BOTH LIVES ARE OWNED BY THE SAME PERSON. AND THEN THEY HAVET , BUT THE TWO MAIN ONES ARE THAT IT'S A DOUBLE LIGHT SITUATION.HMM. AND. THAT IT'S OWNED BY THE SAME PERSON. IN THE CASE OF STUART STUART ONLY ALLOWS FENCES AROUND SINGLE FAMILY LIGHTS. IF THERE'S A SITUATION THAT COMPROMISES THE SAFETY, HEALTH AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS. AND IN FORT PIERCE, WE FOUND SOMETHING SIMILAR, SO ITS STAFF I RECOMMEND IT TO YOU. WE GAVE YOU THREE OPTIONS. THE FIRST OPTION BEING TO LEAVE, AS IS NOT ALLOW FENCING AROUND VACANT LIGHTS. THE SECOND OPTION. LOOKS AT.
MIRRORING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT IS IN THE MARTIN CODE. TO ALLOW FENCES ON VACANT LOTS AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. AND IT SAYS, I'M LIGHTS AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WITH NO PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE, MEANING THERE'S NO HOME ON IT. UM THE DEPTH OF THE PRIMARY RIGHT OF WEIGHT. YARD SHOULD BE DEEMED TO BE EQUAL TO THE FRONT SETBACK.
SO WE TRIED TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT WHERE THE FENCE WOULD BE SET. ON THE LINE. WOULD. BE AS MINIMAL OF AN EYESORE AS POSSIBLE, BUT TO ALLOW THE FENCING. AND THE THIRD OPTION.
WE PUT IN THE LANGUAGE THAT WE SIGNED SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES ABOUT THE SAFETY, HEALTH WELFARE. SO THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCES, UM FROM ONE TO THE OTHER, NOT CHANGE.
CHANGED TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S ALLOWED IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, WITH SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. AND THEN THE THIRD ONE, ADDING IN LANGUAGE TO OPTION TO THAT ADDRESSES, HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE. THIS WAS SPELLED OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT AND HOPEFULLY EASY TO FOLLOW. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, YES. UM UM, IT'S JUST KIND OF CONFUSING THAT ON THE FRONT COVER SHEET, THE RECOMMENDATION IS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION, BUT ON THE STAFF REPORT THEY RECOMMEND THAT IT NOT BE AMENDED. WE THAT WAS THOSE WERE THE THREE OPTIONS, RIGHT? BUT STILL, THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IT NOT BE AMENDED WITH THE THREE OPTIONS.
IT'S JUST CONFUSING TO FIND A RECOMMENDATION. YES, AND ONE SPOT AND A RECOMMENDATION NOT TO
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BE AMENDED IN A OTHER SPOT. UM ANYWAY, MY OTHER QUESTION. IS THIS BURDEN OF PROOF IN OPTION THREE. AND I SEE THAT YOU THEN I GUESS YOU SAID STUART HAS A BURDEN OF PROOF TYPE. THING WHAT ? WHAT WOULD THAT BE? I MEAN, ANYONE COULD JUST SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S HEALTH AND SAFETY.AND, UM. WHATEVER ELSE YOU SAID, BUT HOW WOULD THEY? HOW WOULD THEY WHAT WOULD BE EVIDENCE THAT WOULD BE A MEET THE BURDEN OF PROOF? THAT'S PRECISELY THE ISSUE WITH THAT LANGUAGE. IT'S.
YOU KNOW, VAGUE AND IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION. I WOULD MAKE THE CALL ON BASED ON YOU KNOW SOMETHING? I MEAN, I MEAN, THEY MIGHT HAVE A POLICE REPORT TO SHOW OR SOMETHING PHOTOGRAPHS OF SOMETHING, BUT YES, IT DOES CREATE, UM I THINK. YOU KNOW? A COMPREHENSIVE SET OF WHAT MIGHT BE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT MIGHT GO TO THAT. BUT IF YOU MENTIONED A POLICE REPORT, YEAH. UM YEAH.
PASSING PERHAPS SQUATTERS, YOU KNOW, IN A TENT TRYING TO LIVE ON A ON A PARCEL AND SO ON. THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT, UM, THAT MIGHT BE PERSUASIVE THERE POTENTIALLY OTHER INSTANCES UM, IT WOULD BE EVALUATED BASED ON THE FACTS OF EACH CIRCUMSTANCE. NO, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S PERFECT WERE DISCUSSED. WE JUST KIND OF COPIED THIS FROM WHAT STUART SCOTT AND WE DON'T WE DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY WHAT THEY'RE UH, PRACTICAL HISTORY IS APPLYING IT. YOU GOT MORE QUESTIONS? YES THIS WOULD ALLOW LIKE CHAIN LINK TYPE. UH, FENCE, RIGHT? ON. ANY KIND. ANY FENCING PERMITTED AND THE L. D. R S WOULD BE OFFENSE THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED POTENTIALLY. WELL, OKAY, SO LET ME ASK A QUESTION. UM AND MAYBE I'M GETTING IT WRONG, BUT I WAS UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY FENCE ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY ON VACANT PROPERTIES.
RIGHT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING, RIGHT? THAT'S CURRENTLY WHAT THE CODE. THAT'S WHAT THE CODE IS SAYING, OKAY. OKAY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS? BOARD MEMBERS? GOOD OKAY, UM SO WE NEED TO VOTE ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO. STATE. TAKE THIS BACK TO THE BOARD TO THE COUNCIL. SO I ENTERTAIN LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE OPTION ONE, WHICH IS TO LEAVE IT, AS IS A SECOND. OKAY? VENICE CLERK. REMEMBER PRESSLER. YES, BOARD MEMBERS OF HAYEK. UH HUH. YES REMEMBER WILLIAMS? YES. VICE CHAIR. MILEY CHAIR, PALMER. YES. BEFORE WE GO ON, MADAM CHAIR. I JUST NEED TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION TO ITEM NUMBER TWO THAT WAS TABLED. WE DID NOT TABLE IT TO A TIME CERTAIN NO. DO YOU? UM STAFF THINK IT WOULD BE READY FOR NEXT MEETING? OKAY, SO WE HAVE, UH SO THAT WOULD BE VILLAGE. KIRK DO WE NEED TO OCTOBER 6TH? OKAY, WE DON'T NEED THE MAKE ANOTHER EMOTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. OKAY, SO TABLE IT. UNTIL OCTOBER. MA'AM.
THANK YOU. WELCOME. IT PASSED. ONE. YEAH. I'M SORRY, NEITHER OF THEM. DO WE NEED TO GO BACK AND DO THAT FOR PUBLIC HEARING? MR VICE. AH. CERTAINLY YOU CAN ASK US IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CONCERNING THE MATTER. OKAY? UMI CAN SEE THE ROOM. THERE ARE NOT MANY FOLKS THERE BUT CERTAINLY GO AHEAD AND ASK DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON ZOOM? EVERYTHING'S WAS CARDS. PRECAUTIONARY OKAY,
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THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO, UM. HOW MANY TROOPS MOVED. IT WAS RENEWED. OKAY IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY, UM. BOARD MEMBER PRESSLER AND SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER WILLIAMS THAT THAT WE, UM HOLD ON. HELPING YEAH, THAT'S OKAY. IT WAS TO APPROVE OPTION NUMBER ONE TO LEAVE IT, AS IS YES TO APPROVE APPLICATION. NUMBER L D R 22 TO 9. FOR ONE. TO LEAVE. AS IS. THANK YOU. OKAY? DO I NEED[4.
Application No. LDR-22-025, Request To Amend The Village Of Indiantown Land Development Regulations To Establish Commercial Vehicle Parking Regulations In Residential Neighborhoods and In Conjunction with Residential Uses.
]TO GO BACK AND DO TOO. NO WE'RE GOOD. WE'RE GOOD ON THE ITEM. 44 OKAY. APPLICATION NUMBER LD R 22 OH 25 REQUEST TO AMEND THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO ESTABLISH COMMERCIAL VEHICLE PARKING. PARKING REGULATIONS AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEN CONDUCT AND CONJUNCTION WITH RESIDENTIAL USES. IT'S THERE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.NEXT SLIDE. STAFF IS PROPOSING TO ESTABLISH COMMERCIAL VEHICLE PARKING REGULATIONS AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND MIXED USE AREAS AND WE'RE DOING THIS BASED ON A SERIES OF COMPLAINTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED IN THE COMMUNITY. ABOUT TRAILERS TRUCKS BEING PARKED. IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
IT'S AN EYESORE, AND IT ALSO IS CAUSING SOME ISSUES THAT. ONE OF OUR MAJOR RECREATIONAL LOCATIONS. NEXT SLIDE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ONE TIME TRUCKS BEING PERMITTED NOTHING ABOVE THAT. SO YOU WANT TO THINK SOMETHING LIKE A FORD F 3 50 ARAM. 3500 OR CHEVY SILVERADO.
THOSE WOULD BE PERMITTED, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HUGE TRUCKS THAT YOU SEE AS A CAB ON THE FRONT. AND A TRAILER ON THE BACK. THOSE TRAILERS SOMETIMES ARE AS LONG AS ONE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS OR LONGER. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND WHETHER IT'S THE TWO PARTS TOGETHER. THE CAB BY ITSELF. THE TRAILER BY ITSELF. THIS RECOMMENDED LANGUAGE IS WHAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT IT NOT BE ALLOWED IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU. YOU THEN MAKE ONE TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. AND THE COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE ULTIMATE FINAL DECISION NEXT LIFE. STAFF AGAIN IS RECOMMENDING THAT YOU DO APPROVE APPLICATION NUMBER LD R 22 0 TO 5. WHICH WOULD MAKE A CHANGE TO THE CODE TO NOT ALLOW TRUCKS LIKE LARGER THAN A CAPACITY OF ONE TIME TO BE PARKED IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. WITH THAT I'LL CONCLUDE. OUT YOU MAY APPROVE OR DENY THE APPLICATION AND MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. WE'VE COVERED THE NEXT STEPS AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
OKAY. VICE CHAIR, MILEY. SO IF WE CAN CLARIFY, UM THE VEHICLES THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT WHAT THE CABIN. THE TRAILER ON THE BACK IF THERE IS PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITHIN THE VILLAGE. WHO ON A BUSINESS THAT REQUIRES THAT THEY HAVE THESE THESE VEHICLES AND THEY OWN SAY A HOME WITHIN THE ARE THEY NOT ALLOWED TO PARK BUT LIKE ON THEIR PROPERTY, OR OR LIKE ADJACENT TO THEIR HOME OR SOMETHING. THAT'S WHAT WOULD THEY BE AFFECTED? THEY WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO PARK. THESE HUGE TRAILER. CABIN TRAILER TRUCKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S MORE THAN AN EYESORE. IT DOES DAMAGE TO THE ROADWAY NETWORK. UH IT COULD CAUSE SAFETY ISSUES IF SOMEONE CAN'T SEE AROUND IT TO PULL OUT OF THERE. DRIVEWAY OR TO MAKE A TURN ON A ROAD. AND IT'S REALLY
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NOT WHAT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE DESIGNED TO HOW. SO WILL THERE BE, UM, SOME TYPE OF PARKING. DESIGNATED DO WE HAVE PLANS TO HAVE DESIGNATED PARKING WITHIN THE VILLAGE? THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE ON THE PERSON THAT OWNS OR IS DRIVING THE TRUCK. UH INTO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO FIND A PLACE THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO PARK. OKAY? BUT AND I CAN SHARE WITH YOU THAT THAT IS A COMMON REQUIREMENT IS JUST DEALING WITH IT FOR ANOTHER CITY THAT WE REPRESENT JUST THIS MORNING. UH IT'S VERY COMMON REQUIREMENT TO REQUIRE THAT THAT TRULY LARGE SEMIS. UM, YOU KNOW, CAN ONLY GO IN SOME COMMERCIAL AREA TO BE PART, UM AND NOT IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU, UM BOARD MEMBER, PRESSLER. THAT'S HOW YOU HAD YOUR SIGN. I WAS JUST GOING TO CLARIFY. YOU'RE SAYING RESIDENTIAL, UH WOULD THERE THIS EFFECT ANY OTHER AREAS? UM WOULD IT AFFECT MIXED USE OR I, YOU KNOW, I AM. OKAY WELL, I THINK THAT, UM, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, EVEN WHAT MAKES USE THAT STILL RESIDENTIAL WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE WORK, TOO? I THINK IT WAS IN MY CORRECT. UM UH, DIRECTOR WAS SHX DAVID WITH KELVIN JUDAH KNOWN ASSOCIATES. UM THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY AND I WENT OVER THIS AND WE WERE SPECIFIC TO RESIDENTIAL USES, UM, MIXED USE THERE WOULD REALLY BE NO ROOM ON YOUR PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THESE VEHICLES, SO THE PROBLEM YOU KNOW, IS FOCUSED. WE FOCUSED ON THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. WHERE IS THE PROBLEM? UM AND AS I SAID , WE FEEL THAT IN A MIXED USE DISTRICT, IT JUST WOULDN'T WORK. WE DON'T HAVE THE ROOM, OKAY? OKAY? BOARD MEMBERS AND TO ADD ONTO ALEX'S, UM, THOUGHTS THERE. WE WENT AROUND AND HE AND I WENT ROUND AND ROUND ON THIS, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S A LITTLE GENERAL . IT'S NOT ZEROED IN ON A PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICT BECAUSE OUR ZONING DISTRICTS ARE PRETTY DYNAMIC. UM, YOU CAN DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN THEM AND A LOT OF THEM CURRENTLY WHERE THE ZONING IS. YOU COULD DO SOMETHING COMMERCIAL. CURRENTLY ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. SO UM, THE THOUGHT WAS IN DOING THIS IS IT LOOKS TO THE NATURE OF THE USE. IT'S IN CONJUNCTION WITH SO IF THE AREA IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY EVEN IF IT HAPPENS TO BEING ONE OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS, THAT IS, UM, THAT COULD ALLOW A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL USES. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED. OR IF IT'S IN SOME SORT OF UH UM. COMPLEX WHERE THERE MIGHT BE SOME COMMERCIAL USES AND ALSO RESIDENTIAL USES. IF IT IS, UM COMMERCIAL VEHICLE IS PARKED THERE. WE SAID IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESIDENTIAL USE I E. THE OWNER OPERATOR OF THAT VEHICLE RESIDES THERE. THAT'S ALSO NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED. IF WE'RE IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATION WHERE YOU HAD ONE OF OUR DOWNTOWN ZONING DISTRICTS, AND IT WAS A COMPLETELY COMMERCIAL OPERATION THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS THAT IT WAS NOT IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE REGULATING THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR MEMBERS TO SPEAK. I'M SORRY MEMBERS OF HIGH I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD MEMBERS TO HYAH! YEAH. JUST ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ASKED AND THE, UM, THE VICE CHAIR KIND OF MENTIONED IT. YOU KNOW THERE. WHAT WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT CURRENTLY LIVE IN THE VILLAGE THAT UH HUH. DO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I UNDERSTAND THATG FOR THE POLICY AND JUST AS SHE KIND OF ALLUDED YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU'RE LIVING IN THE VILLAGE? AND YOU? YOU HAVE[00:45:04]
YOU HAVE A CAR RIGHT NOW. IS THERE SOME SORT OF MAYBE DIFFERENCE THAT YOU MAKE BETWEEN PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE AND PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST THAT JUST IT'S A QUESTION OR JUST SOMETHING TO AT LEAST DISCUSS. YEAH AND ALEX HEALTHY. I CAN I CAN ADDRESS THIS A LITTLE BIT. UM SO BECAUSE WE'RE BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS, UM EFFECTIVELY. TEMPORARY OR OR SOMETHING THAT THAT CHANGES.IT'S A MOVING VEHICLE. THAT'S THERE AND NOT THERE AND SO ON. UM WE WOULDN'T BE LOOKING AT ANY SORT OF GRANDFATHERING WITH REGARD TO THIS FOR USES. I DO WANT TO KEEP IN MIND HERE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE WE ALSO WENT BACK AND FORTH AND DISCUSSING THIS ONE. YOU KNOW WHAT TYPES OF VEHICLES TO EXCLUDE, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SUGGESTION THAT IN A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS THEY EXCLUDE NOT JUST BIG, GIGANTIC SEMIS AND BY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 18 WHEELS THAT YOU SEE ON THE HIGHWAY, THE GIGANTIC SUPER LONG THINGS OKAY? THERE THERE ARE ALSO CITIES THAT THAT PROHIBIT WHAT ARE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE F THREE FIFTIES OR, UM, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND UM AND. THAT WE FIGURED THAT WAS THAT WAS A BRIDGE TOO FAR FOR INDIAN TOWN BECAUSE WE KNOW SO MANY FOLKS IN INDIAN TOWN OR CONTRACTORS OR, YOU KNOW, WORK IN SOME TRADE SUCH THAT THEY'RE DRIVING AROUND WITH WITH, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY UP TO ONE TON TRUCK, AND THAT'S COMPLETELY NORMAL. ONLY TALKING ABOUT BIG 18 WHEELERS OR OR THE BIG, GIGANTIC FRONT CAB PORTIONS OF 18 WHEELERS, WHICH ARE ALL MUCH BIGGER THAN EVEN F THREE FIFTIES IF YOU IF YOU CAN PICTURE THAT TYPE OF VEHICLE, BUT, UM THE IDEA WOULD BE AH, THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE PARKING 18 WHEELERS, UH , IN THEIR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, THE IDEA WOULD BE THEY WOULD NEED TO FIND SOME OTHER PLACE NEARBY TO PARK IT IN THE INTERIM WHEN THEY ARE NOT ON THE ROAD, AND THAT IS. FIND UM WITH THAT STUFF, BECAUSE MOST JURISDICTIONS DON'T THINK AN 18 WHEELER PARKING, YOU KNOW, ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. FACED WITH RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER. MEMBER SOUTH. IT'S SO YOU'RE JUST SAYING IT'S REALLY 18 WHEELERS. IF SOMEONE HAD LIKE AH! A MOBILE. LIKE LIKE, UH, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE A HOME THAT THEY WERE LIKE A CAR THAT'S UH, USED TO SLEEP. THAT'S NOT AN 18 WHEELER OR IF THEY HAD A CAR THAT HAD A BOAT ON THE BACK REALLY APPLY TO THAT. YEAH. WHEN YOU SAY CAR YOU TALK. YOU MEAN LIKE AN RV? YES THAT YEAH. SO THIS IS NOT. THIS IS DIRECTED TO COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. MERCIAL USE, AND THAT'S USUALLY PRETTY EASILY RECOGNIZABLE, THEY MIGHT HAVE SIGNAGE ALL OVER THE SIDE OF THEIR UH, VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, SAYING IT'S SUCH AND SUCH THIS AND SO ON. THIS IS NOT DIRECTED, RECREATIONAL VEHICLES. I DON'T RECALL. I THINK WE DO. UH AND OUT THERE OR ALEX, YOU MAY HAVE SOME RECOLLECTION. I THINK WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER REGULATIONS CONCERNING RECREATIONAL VEHICLES . BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ADDRESSING. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOUR ATTORNEY, VOSS. UM WHO WOULD BE POLICING THIS? UH UM THIS EFFORT WOULD IT BE COLD ENFORCERS? THE COURT. OKAY IT WOULD BE CODE ENFORCEMENT. PRIMARILY. YES.
OKAY. OKAY ARE THERE ANY OTHER ENTERTAINMENT? PUBLIC QUESTIONS ? COMMENTS? YES I HAVE ONE.
OKAY, WHEELS. WHAT'S THE FIFTH WILL. TRUCK GETTING HOOKED UP TO THE BIKE OF TRAILERS AFTER THAT PULLED THAT PARTICULAR TRAILER HAS SOME SIDES TO IT. IT'S CALLED 1/5 WHEEL. THOSE THE DOUBLE WHEELS IN THE BACK OF A SIX WHEELS BECAUSE IT'S TWO IN THE FRONT FOR IN THE BACK? NO, THAT THAT THAT'S NO, THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS, YOU KNOW, AND I'D LIKE TO ALSO POINT OUT CARGO VAN
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. SO IF YOU'RE THE PLUMBER, ELECTRICIAN OR LANDSCAPE, YOU HAVE A CAR. YOU KNOW, VAN THAT ALSO IS NOT PROHIBITED. SO IT'S ANYTHING KIND OF LARGER THAN THAT. 18 WHEELER 18 WHEELERS THAT'S MUCH LARGER THAN A CARGO DANCER FINITELY. OKAY IT I JUST I JUST GOOGLED IT. I WASN'T TOO FAMILIAR WITH THAT TERM EITHER. BUT WHAT? WHAT I'M SEEING HERE IS IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SOME SORT OF TRAILER THAT. PRETTY LARGE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS UM, PULLED BY. SOME SORT OF STANDARD TRUCK YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE MIGHT BE REALLY LARGE TRUCK, BUT IT'S NOT A TRACTOR TRAILER TRUCK . IT'S NOT A TRUCK, NOT A TRUCK THAT WOULD THAT WOULD PULL AN 18 WHEELER, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS I DON'T I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD PROHIBIT THAT EITHER. THIS IS REALLY DIRECTED TOWARDS THE TRUE 18 WHEELER TRACTOR TRAILER , AND IT'S FRONT CAB PORTION OF THE BACK CAB PORTION. OKAY THANK YOU. ATTORNEY VIOLENCE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS MATTER? YES I JUST IF I JUST MAYBE MAYBE IT WILL BE HELPFUL TO JUST, UH YOU KNOW WHEN THE WHEREVER IT GOES TO JUST MAYBE SHOW A PICTURE JUST BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S HARD TO MAYBE A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO VISUALIZE, BUT I JUST THAT'S MY ONLY LAST COMMENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, UM, BOARD MEMBERS TO HIGH YET. OKAY WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD TO DESCEND THIS OVER TO THE COUNCIL FOR THERE FOR FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS FOR THEM TO DO WHATEVER. I GUESS I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE APPLICATION NUMBER LD R 22 0 TO 5 THAT SECOND. BOARD MEMBER, PRESSLER. YES MEMBERS. SO HYAH! I'M SORRY. YES OF THE AUDIENCE. SHE ASKED IF THERE WAS ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY OKAY, THAT'S OKAY. UM BOARD MEMBERS TO HAYEK APOLOGIZE. YOU SAID YES OR NO? YOU'RE ON MUTE. I'M SORRY. I WAS TAKING THE ROLL CALL. DID YOU SAY YES OR NO? I MISSED IT. I SAID YES. THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBER WILLIAMS. YES VICE CHAIR. MILEY YES. PALMER YES. THANK YOU . OKAY IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND MOVED BY BOARD MEMBER PRESLEY PERSONAL ER AND SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER WILLIAMS THAT. WE ACCEPT , UH AND SEND OVER TO THE COUNCIL APPLICATION NUMBER LD R 22 OH 254 REQUEST TO AMEND THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION. TO ESTABLISH COMMERCIAL VEHICLE PARKING, REGULAR REGULATIONS AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH RESIDENTIAL USE. THE MOTION PASSED. OKAY? ALRIGHT. UM WE'LL HAVE OUR DIRECTOR'S REPORT. THANK YOU,[5.
Monthly Director's Report
]MADAM CHAIR. YOU'RE WELCOME. NEXT SLIDE. UH SO EVERY MONTH WE GIVE YOU A REPORT ON YOUR ANNUAL ATTENDANCE RECORD TO DATE. REPORT ON THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY AND APPLICATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN REVIEW OR UNDER CONSTRUCTION . AND WE GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON YOUR GOALS AND ACHIEVEMENTS FOR YOUR PLANS THAT YOU'VE SET OUT FOR THE YEAR 2022. THEN WE TRY TO DO SOME PROJECTION OF WHAT APPLICATIONS YOU'LL SEE NEXT MONTH. SO WITH THAT NEXT SLIDE, WE HAVE THE ATTENDANCE RECORD, WHICH IS UPDATED THROUGH THE MONTH OF AUGUST, AND WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES CURRENTLY. IF YOU'LL TAKE NOTE. ONE OF THOSE VACANCIES EXPIRES IN NOVEMBER.IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL SEATS THAT WILL EXPIRE IN NOVEMBER MEMBER TO HAYEK AND MEMBER MILEY BEING NOTED WITH THAT NEXT SLIDE. DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY. SUMMARY.
AT THE TIME THAT THIS WAS CREATED. WE HAD A COUPLE OF PRE APPLICATION MEETINGS. AND WE HAD SOME RECENT MEDALS THAT OCCURRED FOR BOTH PARKVIEW. RIVER OAK. AND ACTUALLY, THE CONVENIENCE STORE HAS MOVED FROM PRE APPLICATION TO IT'S NOW IN REVIEW. EUROPE EASY A B GOALS
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AND ACHIEVEMENTS. YOU SAID THAT YOU WOULD ADOPT RULES AND REGULATIONS, RULES AND PROCEDURES. YOU DID THAT. YOU HAVE BEEN ATTENDING OTHER MEETINGS, SO NOT ONLY DID WE GO TO ST LUCY'S PLANNING BOARD MEETING WE ATTENDED A PLANNING SESSION. SOME OF YOU THAT THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL PROVIDED LAST MONTH. WE DID SAY WE WOULD HAVE A STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION. IT'S LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKE THAT MAY NOT HAPPEN, WHICH IS SAD, BUT WE HAVE THE TWO DATES THAT WE PROPOSED LAST ROUND. AND WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THOSE AT THE END OF MY REPORT. YOU HAVE HAD TO STAFF HOSTED WORKSHOPS BY VILLAGE ATTORNEY AND, UH, MYSELF. I'M SORRY. THE SECOND ONE THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. THAT WAS VIDEO I SENT YOU. AND I TOBER. WE ANTICIPATE BRINGING THE SPECIAL EVENT ORDINANCE AND NOW WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE NEED TO BRING BACK THE LIVE WORK PARKING RATIO. IN NOVEMBER. AT THE TIME OF THIS REPORT, WE THOUGHT WE'D BE BRINGING THE TREATMENT STATION, BUT I WILL BE SEEKING FURTHER DIRECTION FROM THE VILLAGE MANAGER ON THAT AND APPLICATION C U 22 037 WITHDREW, SO WE WILL NOT BE BRINGING THAT TO YOU. IT WAS WITHDRAWN SINCE THIS REPORT WAS CREATED. WITH THAT WE'LL CIRCLE BACK TO THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE VILLAGE COUNCIL IS HAVING ITS OWN STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION IN OCTOBER, OCTOBER 22ND I BELIEVE, AND THAT SOUND OF SATURDAY WHAT WE HAVE BEEN PROPOSING FOR THIS BOARD WAS A MEETING. ON YOUR REGULAR MEETING DAY, BUT MAYBE TO COME EARLIER THAN SIX PM AND DO A SHORT SESSION. OR WE ALSO PROPOSED AN ALTERNATIVE OF NOVEMBER 17TH. AT 6:30 P.M. ANYE DATES MIGHT WORK. AND IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GETS PUSHED INTO NEXT YEAR. I DON'T YOU KNOW YOU'VE ACHIEVED MOST EVERYTHING THAT YOU SET OUT TO ACHIEVE. MINUS THIS ONE AND. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ASPIRE TO FOR NEXT YEAR IF WE CAN'T GET A DATE SET UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THE SATURDAY OCTOBER 22ND VILLAGE COUNCIL PLANNING STRATEGIC PLANNING IS THAT TO BE HELD HERE? YES. YES YES. AND YES , ANYONE KNOW WHAT TIME THAT IS? NINE A.M. TO THREE. NINE A.M. TO WHAT? 33 M 9 TO 3. YEAH, AND IT MAY GO PAST THAT. SORRY. IT MAY GO PAST THREE. 923 APPROXIMATELY OKAY THE WHOLE DAY. ALRIGHT ALRIGHT. UM THE NOVEMBER 17TH STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR US, UM SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. IT'S 6 30.WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. YES. AND WHAT'S YOUR DURATION TO THREE HOURS? WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD BE FINE IF WE KEPT IT TO, YOU KNOW, 60 TO 90 MINUTES, OKAY? NOVEMBER. 17TH WHAT WORKED FOR ME? OKAY WHAT? WHAT CAN WE DO TO PREPARE FOR THAT? WELL YOU CAN THINK ABOUT YOUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR NEXT YEAR. THE WHAT FOR NEXT YEAR. GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SET FOR NEXT YEAR. WELL, HERE'S THE QUESTION. WELL, UM. WHAT WILL THERE BE DINNER PROVIDED FOR US? I MAY BE ABLE TO GET SOME BREAD AND BUTTER? SURE CAN YOU MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME PICKLES WILL DO, MADAM CHAIR OKAY, AND THAT THAT'S ALSO FOR THIS NINE A.M. TO THREE P.M.
WELL, THAT'S NOT MY SESSION. BUT ARE IS EVERYONE AVAILABLE IN NOVEMBER? 17TH AND I DON'T WANT TO SCHEDULE THIS. IF WE CAN'T IT'S A THURSDAY THURSDAY THURSDAY EVENING, 6 30? YES, SOME AVAILABLE. OH WAIT A MINUTE WAS THURSDAY, THIRD THURSDAY OF NOVEMBER. THE WEEK BEFORE
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THANKSGIVING. I'M MAKING MYSELFR FROM ALL THE MEMBERS AND OH, YES, I'M SORRY. OKAY? BOARDMAN PRESSLER. NOVEMBER. 17TH IS GOOD FOR YOU. YES OKAY. VICE CHAIR. UM MILEY. LIKE I'M SO SORRY. SO HOW YOU'RE NOT HERE AND I KEEP FORGETTING ABOUT YOU. ARE YOU AVAILABLE? OKAY. THANK YOU.THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I BELIEVE WITH THAT. THAT CONCLUDES THE REPORT. OUR NEXT MEETING IS NOVEMBER. WE JUST LOOKED AT IT. OCTOBER SORRY I'M ALREADY TRYING TO PUT US IN NOVEMBER OCTOBER 6TH WHERE, AS OF NOW WE HAVE POTENTIALLY TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE KNOW WE'LL HAVE AT LEAST ONE OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, UM DIRECTOR. IS THERE ANYTHING ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SAY BEFORE WE ADJOURN?
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