Apr 07, 2022 Planning, Zoning, and Appeals Board

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OFF. SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. OKAY ROLL CALL, PLEASE. PALMER.

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THANK YOU. YES, WE GOT YOU. THANK YOU. REMEMBER WILLIAMS. OKAY, INVOCATION. UM UM. BOARD MEMBER WILLIAMS, WOULD YOU DO THE INVOCATION? FATHER. GOD, HEAVEN, WE COME NOW. THANKS. BEING SO GOOD. SO KIND TO WHAT ROLLS UP ANOTHER DAY. CALLED FOR A LINE THAT'S TO BE IN THIS STATE. GO WITH US AND STAND BY US AND LEAVE SOMEONE SPIRITUAL DEGREE OF GRACE TO ANOTHER. GREW UP AT THIS MEETING, INSTILLING THAT THE ONLY AUTHORITY WE HAVE WHAT YOU GIVE US. MEETING IN A SPECIAL WAY. WORSE. CAUSE BE ACCEPTABLE IN YOUR SIGHT. SHRIMP AND OUR ROCK. IN THE MIGHTY NAME. MM HMM. LIGHT FOR FANS. LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. OKAY, APPROVAL OF AGENDA. MADAM GALLINGER. STAFF WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE

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Approval of the Indiantown PZA Board Rules, Regulations, and Procedures.

SOMETIMES WE RECEIVE THINGS. UM YOU KNOW THE LAST MINUTE AND THAT'S OKAY. WE JUST WORK WITH IT AND GO AHEAD AND READ IT. I'M GOING TO ALLOW THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY TO READ IT IF HE HAS RECEIVED IT AT THIS POINT. SHOULD HAVE IT WEIGHED. UH YEAH , I DO. I'M I'M READING IT NOW.

IN AN EFFORT TO IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY. AND INCREASED PUBLIC CONFIDENCE, A REGULAR WRITTEN PUBLIC DISCLOSURE. FORMS SHALL BE REQUIRED OF ALL MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD. THIS REQUIREMENT SHALL BE FULFILLED BY COMPLETING A WRITTEN DISCLOSURE FORM. WHICH WILL MAKE KNOWN ALL PROPERTIES AND INTERESTS HELD BY MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, REFLECTING ALL PROPERTIES AND DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIPS.

FROM WHICH THEY COULD POTENTIALLY BENEFIT BY MEMBERSHIP ON THIS BOARD. THE PUBLIC DISCLOSURE FORM SHALL BE PROMPT AND TIMELY. IT SHALL BE COMPLETED WHEN A BOARD MEMBER

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FOR EMPLOYER. AND SHE INDICATES THIS TEXT WAS TAKEN FROM FLORIDA STATUTES CHAPTER 1 12.3143.

VOTING CONFLICTS. WAIT ISN'T MOST OF THIS FOUND IN THE FORM ONE THAT THEY FILE EVERY YEAR.

NO, IT'S NOT BECAUSE WHAT? WHAT I'M READING HERE IS BASICALLY, SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO ENDEAVOR TO. JUST CLOSE ALL PROPERTIES. AH OWNED BY YOURSELF. ANY FAMILY MEMBER SPECIFIED IN 1123143 ANY CLIENT ANY EMPLOYER, ANY PARENT SUBSIDIARY SIBLING OF EITHER OF THOSE ANY OF THAT OWNED BY ANY OF THEM. UM. I'M NOT AWARE OF SUCH A BROAD DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENT ANYWHERE IN THE STATE AND I WOULD NEED TO WORK OVER THIS LANGUAGE EXTENSIVELY TO MAKE IT AH! ENFORCEABLE. UM.

YEAH. BOARD MEMBERS, UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I MEAN IT. IT. THIS IS WELL IN ACCESS OF EVEN WHAT? UMY COMMISSION HAVE TO DISCLOSE ON A FORM SIX AH UNDERSTATE LAW. UM. AT LEAST WITH RESPECT TO WITH RESPECT TO REAL ESTATE HOLDINGS OF PERSONS OTHER THAN THEMSELVES. UM. SO I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND ADOPTING THIS TONIGHT WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU. IF IT WAS THE WILL OF THE BOARD, WE CAN LOOK AT IT FURTHER, BUT I WILL JUST SHARE WITH YOU THAT IT IT'S MUCH BROADER THAN EVEN THE MUCH HIGHER STANDARDS THAT COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE, UH HELD TO UM AND I'M NOT AWARE OF ONCE HAVE BROUGHT ANYWHERE IN THE STATE. HMM. WELL, MADAM CHAIR. WE CAN HEAR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD IF YOU LIKE. I WOULD SAY, HOWEVER, GIVEN THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY'S OPINION AND RECOMMENDATION THAT WE NOT ADOPT OR. WE NOT ADOPT YOUR RULES AND PROCEDURES TONIGHT WE GOT CLOSE UP. TIME OUT ALTEA. WE CAN ALWAYS AMEND RULES. IT'S VERY EASY IF THERE.

THERE'S NO REASON TO PUT OFF AND PUT OFF AND PUT OFF ADOPTING A SET OF RULES, IF IT WAS ULTIMATELY THE WILL OF THE BOARD TO DO SOMETHING. ALONG THESE LINES, WE CAN ADD IT. LATER.

FANTASTIC. OKAY. TURN EVOLVES. UM. YOU SAID WE CAN ADD A LITTLE LATER, SO I THINK WE SHOULD ENTERTAIN COMMENT FROM THE FROM THE BOARD TO SEE WHAT THE BOARD FEEL ABOUT THIS AND WHAT LANGUAGE SHOULD WE PUT IN THERE? YOU KNOW, WE'LL LEAVE THAT UP, YOU KNOW, JUST TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION. WHAT THE BOARD, UM WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE COME AND UNDERSTAND. YOU SAID THAT THIS IS VERY THIS IS LIKE GOING WAY ABOVE THAN WHAT'S UM, ACTS OF OTHER COUNTIES. MARTIN COUNTY COMMISSION. SO. WERE ENTERTAINED COMMENTS NOW FROM THE BOARD. VICE CHAIR. UM. ONE WE WERE CHOSEN TO BE A PART OF THE STORE. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE HAD TO DISCLOSE THIS INFORMATION. THERE WAS A FORM SIMILAR MATCH THE WORD IN THE THESE TWO PARTS.

LOSE, UM PROPERTIES. FOR ANY KNOWN CONFLICT. SORT. I WOULDN'T BE IN FAVOR. VOTING. FOR OH, YOU

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TANGIBLE. WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? MEMBER WILLIAMS AND MEMBER BANKS ARE ARE YOU SUGGESTING WE TABLE JUST THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS BEING SUGGESTED? NO NO, I AGREE WITH OUR ATTORNEY. THAT IT'S ALREADY BRITAIN. AND IT'S. SO I WOULD HAVE TO SAY NO QUESTION IS THE NO. TO JUST THE PAPER THAT WAS AT YOUR SEATS TONIGHT? YES, AND WE MOVED FORWARD. YES. GREAT THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION . YES, THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBER PEREIRA'S I KNOW YOU'RE NEW, BUT HEARING FROM YOUR HEARING FROM, UM SORRY, BERNICE. WAS IT MY LADY? THERE YOU GO. YES, AS YOU WERE NOTING EARLIER OF HAVING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS PRIOR LIKE TOWARDS THE BEGINNING. UM, I AGREE THE SAME SO I WOULD AFFIRM THAT AND SAY NO, I WILL NOT. BE TOWARDS OKAY? ALRIGHT, SO NOW WE VOTE RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO, UM, WE NEED TO VOTE. THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ADOPT OUR UM ADOPT THIS VERB IT UM BASED ON THE. THE COMMENT FROM OUR AND THE EXPERTISE FROM OUR ATTORNEY. PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT. REMEMBER PRESSLER'S NOW PRESENT, OKAY? OKAY SO, UM, HERE? YES. UH WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, AND I BELIEVE THE BOARD MEMBER THAT THAT PROPOSED THIS LANGUAGE JUST ARRIVED SO SHE MAY HAVE SOME FURTHER EXPLANATION CONCERNING IT. BUT BASED ON WHERE THE DISCUSSION IS GONE AS AS A AS OF THIS POINT, UM YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION WITH REGARD TO THIS PROPOSAL HERE. WHAT'S BEFORE YOU ON THE AGENDA IS THE ADOPTION OF THE RULES AS THEY'VE BEEN PRESENTED. SO IF THAT WAS THE WILL OF THE BOARD TO DO SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD SIMPLY BE THAT YOU HAVE EMOTION TO ADOPT THE RULES AS PRESENTED ON THE AGENDA. AND THEN, UM HAVE A VOTE ON THAT. OKAY? OKAY. WOULD IT BE OKAY? YOU JUST SPOKE. OKAY UM, BOARD MEMBER PRESS LAST YEAR, SO WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND ALLOW HER TO EXPLAIN THIS, VERBEEK. THAT WE JUST WENT OVER AND MOVE FROM THERE AND OKAY, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. UM THE PURPOSE OF THE PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS FOR IT IS TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL ON DEVELOPING ON DEVELOPMENT POSITION PETITIONS. AND TO HEAR AND DECIDE UPON VARIANTS REQUESTS AND APPEALS TO ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS ON ISSUES RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. ALTHOUGH THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS RULES REGARDING CONFLICT OF INTEREST, THEY ARE NOT EFFECTIVE UNLESS WRONGDOING IS EXPOSED AND REPORTED I'M ADVOCATING FOR A REPORTING MECHANISM TO AVOID PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE. IT IS A TIME CONSUMING PROCESS WHEN A BOARD MEMBER PARTNERS WITH NUMEROUS PEOPLE AND NUMEROUS PROPERTIES OR WHEN PROPERTIES ARE HELD IN A TRUST, MEANING THAT THE NAMES OF THE BENEFICIARIES OR SHIELDED FROM PUBLIC VIEW. I HOPE THAT YOU AGREE WITH ME THAT ADDITIONAL SAFEGUARDS ARE DEFINITELY NEEDED. IN AN EFFORT

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YOU KNOW THAT IS TWEAKED IT A LITTLE BETTER. YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN A PERSON COMES ON THE BOARD ANNUALLY, WE WOULD REPORT OUR HOME, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS OR WHATEVER REAL ESTATE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, BEING AN ANNUAL THING. BUT AS CHANGES OCCUR FOR SOMEONE WHO BUYS AND SELLS A LOT OF PROPERTY, OR IS AN AGENT OF PROPERTY OR OTHERWISE ENTANGLED, THEY WOULD NEED TO BE REPORTING ALL THE TIME. THEY SHOULD REPORT AS SOON AS THESE CHANGES OCCUR. ATTORNEY WADE. YEAH MISS PRESSLER, BOARD MEMBER PRESSER. I WAS JUST BEFORE YOU CAME IN. I WAS JUST SHARING WITH THE BOARD THAT IF IT WERE THEIR DESIRE TO ADOPT SOMETHING ALONG THESE LINES, UM I WOULD WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO UH, DO SOME SURGERY. IF YOU WILL, TO SOME OF THIS LANGUAGE.

I WAS ALSO SHARING AND WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE THAT, UM THE BREADTH. OF THE DISCLOSURE THAT THAT I THINK I'M SAYING AND AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO TUNE IT UP A LITTLE BIT. BUT THE BREADTH OF THE DISCLOSURE THAT I THINK I'M SEEING IN THIS FAR EXCEEDS THE DISCLOSURE THAT WE HAVE UNDER THE STATE FORM ONE THAT YOU AS MEMBERS AND THE VILLAGE COUNCIL HAVE TO FILL OUT. GET FOR EXCEEDS THE DISCLOSURE THAT, UH, IS REQUIRED OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS UNDER THE STATE FORMS SIX. UM AND QUITE FRANKLY, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYWHERE IN THE STATE THAT HAS AH, DISCLOSURES OF SUCH BREADTH AND, UM AND. RECURRENCE AND SO I WAS JUST SHARING THAT EXPERIENCE WITH THEM. IN ANY EVENT, THE. I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND ADOPTING THIS LANGUAGE AS IT IS TONIGHT BECAUSE I'M I'M SEEING SOME PLACES IT IT NEEDS SOME TUNE UP. TO BE, UM AT MINIMUM, MORE PRECISE AND MORE ENFORCEABLE. WELL I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I ANTICIPATED, YOU KNOW IS THAT YOU WOULD WEIGH IN AND EVERYONE WOULD LOOK AT THIS. THINK ABOUT IT. TALK ABOUT IT AND IMPROVE IT . UM THE LANGUAGE IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH WAS SIMPLY TAKEN FROM THE FLORIDA STATUTE. IF YOU BENEFIT FROM SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO MAKE A MOTION ON AND VOTE ON, UM THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO ADDRESS. FURTHER DISCLOSURE. YOU KNOW WE HAVE OUR JURISDICTION WHICH WAS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE VILLAGE. THAT'S OUR CONCERN. UH IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD, I THINK IT SHOULD BE PUBLIC INFORMATION. NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO DO A LOT OF WORK TO FIND OUT WHAT IT IS. YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY ONE OF THE THINGS WE MENTIONED WAS SOMEONE WHO HOLDS PROPERTY IN A TRUST. THOSE NAMES ARE SHIELDED. WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE. SO

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SO MAYBE, UM, IF. IF ANYONE IF THE BOARD MEMBERS WANT PALMER MEMBERS TO HIKE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. OKAY. SOON AS I'M FINISHED. IF ANY, IF ANY OF YOU ALL WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING OR ASK ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. WE WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY SO YOU CAN MAKE A CLEAR AND A CONCISE, UM, COMMENT OR VOTE AND WE WANTED TO JUST TRY TO KEEP IT UNDER TWO MINUTES, SO EVERYBODY HAS A FAIR CHANCE OF SPEAKING. OKAY, REMEMBER, SO HYAH! YEAH, I JUST I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AS OTHERS ELUDED, THERE'S A FORM ONE THAT WERE REQUIRED TO FILL OUT SO THERE ALREADY IS A DISCLOSURE. THAT WE PROVIDE. SO THE THAT I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT CONCERN IS ALREADY ADDRESSED. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO VOICE THEIR CONCERN OR MAKE A COMMENT? OKAY? OKAY? SO WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? CONCERNING WHAT WE'VE HEARD AND WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO I THINK WE SHOULD FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE OKAY. OKAY MOTION. YEAH. JUST WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. OF THE APPROVAL OF THE INDIAN TIME PC. A BOARD RULES, REGULATIONS AND PROCEDURES AS IT WAS SENT TO US PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. SO CAN HIS SECOND. I MEAN, THOSE OF YOU THAT AGREED. SOMEBODY SHOULD SECOND. OH, OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOU'VE GOT THAT MISSILE? YES. OKAY BANKS? YES REMEMBER PEREZ? CORRECT YES. MEMBER PRESSLER? YES. BOARD MEMBER, SAID HAYEK. YES. REMEMBER WILLIAMS. VICE CHAIR. MILEY YES. PALMER? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. UN NUMBER V 22 DEATHS 018. THE

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Application No. V-22-018: Variance Request to Allow Six Feet High Fence in the Front Setback Area, Where a Maximum of Four Feet is Permitted.

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THE EXISTING FENCES IN FRONT OF THIS THIS FENCE. I'M SORRY. YEAH THE EXISTING FENCES TOWARDS CITRUS. UM CITRUS SIDE, SO THE EXISTING CHAIN LINK IS CLOSE TO TWO CITRUSY AND THEN THIS WOULD BE BEHIND THAT FENCE AT THE 20. FT. MARK. BACK FROM THE ROAD OR THE YOU KNOW THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE, SO IT'S IN THIS DIAGRAM. IT'S A BIT IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE. BUT IT'S THE YELLOW WHOLE STRIP BETWEEN THE TWO CANAL SPURS. YES, SO THAT YEAH, THAT WOULD BE THE 28. IT'S BASICALLY 2800 FT IN LENGTH. UM THERE WAS A SENTENCE IN YOUR LETTER, THE ATTACHED LETTER. I THINK IT WAS PAGE THREE. THAT KIND OF CONFUSED ME WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT THE 20 FT, OR, UM, IT SAYS THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS 20 FT. FROM THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY LINE WHERE 25 FT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR A SIX FT FENCE BY RIGHT UM RAMEZ, IS THIS IN MY IN THE RE STAFF REPORTER IN THE APPLICANTS LETTER? RIGHT LET'S THE APPLICANTS LETTER SO THAT QUESTION WOULD BE POSED TO THE

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Application No. LDR-22-008:  A Request to Amend the Village of Indiantown Land Development Regulations to Create the Planned Unit Development Zoning District (PUD), and to Revise the PUD Application Submittal Requirements, and Approval Procedures.

THE LAND DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT PROCESS. INCLUDES STAFF REPORT WITH THE REVIEW AND REQUESTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. THE. REQUEST COMES TO YOU AS A BOARD AND YOU RECOMMEND, UH, APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF THE PROPOSED APPLICATION AND THEN IT GOES TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. FOR THEIR APPROVAL, AND IT GOES TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL TWICE IF THEY DECIDE TO HAVE A SECOND HEARING TO ADOPT. THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST INCLUDES GOING THE WRONG WAY. STAFF IS PREPARING TO BIG RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT. AH TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM. UNFORTUNATELY THE SCREEN SAYS, RECOMMEND TO APPROVE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT TONIGHT. WE RECEIVED SOME LAST MINUTE COMMENTS. AND. WE ARE UNABLE TO INCORPORATE ALL OF THE COMMENTS , WHICH WERE AT YOUR SEATS AS

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I THINK WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS EARLIER THIS WEEK. UM AND YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, LIKE THERE WERE THERE. IT ALLOWS FOR GREATER FLEXIBILITY AND YOU HAVE END UP WITH FEWER REQUESTS FOR VARIANCES. FOR VARIANCES AND THE LIKE. SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS CONDITIONAL. YOU SAID, IS. IT JUST BECOMES A CLEANER. DOCUMENT OR PROPOSAL WITHOUT THE VARIANCES. UH HUH. IF YOU RECALL TRACTOR SUPPLY THAT'S NOT A P U D BUT IT'S AN APPLICATION THAT HAD THREE VARIANCES, ESPECIAL EXCEPTION AND CONDITIONAL USE AS WELL AS THE MASTER SITE PLAN.

AND PLATT AND HAD THAT BEEN A LARGER PROJECT WITH THAT EXTENT OF REQUESTS. THIS PROCESS WOULD COULD PREVENT THAT. BECAUSE. WELL YOU JUST RECENTLY SAW A P U D, UM COME TO YOU THE TERRA LAGO P U D. SO WITHIN WITHIN THAT REQUEST WAS A DOCUMENT FOR THE U. D. AH ZONING AGREEMENT. SO IN THAT AGREEMENT IS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THE PARTICULAR REGULATIONS FOR THE MASTER PLANNING OF THE P U. D. IT DOES ALLOW MORE FLEXIBILITY. DO DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW HOW MANY P U. D S WE HAVE THAT'S ONE TERRA LAGO. OKAY YES. SO WE HAVE TERRA LAGO YELLOW PINES. I CAN'T COUNT THEM ALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I'M SURE WE HAVE AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR THAT ARE INDUSTRIAL. UH I WOULD SAY, I'LL THROW IN VENTURE PARK. ALSO INDUSTRIAL, WE PROBABLY HAVE LESS THAN 10. IT'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN EIGHT AND 10. SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, UM WHO OVERSEES INDUSTRIAL P U. D. SIMILAR TO WHAT THE RESIDENTIALM THE AGREEMENT. UM HELPS TO ESTABLISH THAT AND I BELIEVE THERE IS A FORM OF AN H O A FOUR NON RESIDENTIAL. A FORM OF A NATURE WAY OF A FORM OF A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. WELL, NOT IT'S CALLED SOMETHING ELSE.

BUT THERE'S UM, PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU, OKAY. MADAM CHAIR. UM. WOULD WOULD YOU

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THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME BIG PROJECT. THEY'LL REFER TO A P U D AND AN H O A KIND OF INTERCHANGEABLE. THE P U. D IS AS WE TALKED ABOUT. IT'S KIND OF THE SELF CONTAINED LAND USE REGULATIONS FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT AREA IN H O. A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION IS AS SOME OF YOU ALL KNOW IF YOU LIVE IN ONE A AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING UP YOUR COMMON ELEMENTS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? IT IS COMMON WHEN YOU DEVELOP ANY LARGE RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE, UH, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND UNIVERSALLY. THE CASE WITH P U. D S THAT AN H O A WOULD BE ESTABLISHED. THEY HAVE SOME INTERACTION IN THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PROMISES THAT ARE MADE USUALLY IN A P U D AGREEMENT. THAT THOSE PROMISES ARE TAKEN ON BY THE H O A. THEY THEY'RE AGREEING, OR THEY'RE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THE COMMON ELEMENTS. THE OPEN SPACE THE GREEN SPACE, MAINTAIN SOME ROADS OR SIDEWALKS, POTENTIALLY OR SOME PARKS IN A GIVEN INSTANCE, AND VARY IN DIFFERENT THINGS. UM CONTROL OVER WHETHER OR NOT AN H O A FAILS. UM UNFORTUNATELY, OAS FAILING IS USUALLY IF IT'S A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT AT THE BEGINNING. IT USUALLY DOESN'T FAIL UNTIL 25 30 OR 40 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, AND THERE'S NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO TO CONTROL THAT FAR AWAY. UM THERE ARE USUALLY REQUIREMENTS IN UM. WELL THAT'S ABOUT AS MUCH AS I CAN SAY ABOUT H ALWAYS THERE, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE ORDINANCE, THAT'S BEFORE

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THERE IS A CONCERN FOR DEVELOPERS THAT WHEN THEY'RE DOING LIKE WE HAVE WITH TERRA LAGO, A BIG 10 TO 15 YEAR MULTIPHASE PROJECT. THAT IT IS DIFFICULT. UM. AND UNNECESSARY BUT BUT CERTAINLY DIFFICULT TO PLAN EVERY LITTLE BIT OF ALL OF THOSE MULTIPLE PHASES DOWN TO WHERE EVERY SINGLE LOTS GOING TO BE. ALL RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING. AND PRIMARILY WHAT YOU SEE IN THE VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE, THAT'S BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW. IT DOESN'T PROBABLY DOESN'T ADDRESS PHASING RIGOROUSLY ENOUGH. THIS WOULD APPLY A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN A PROJECT THAT WAS, SAY 75 TO 100 ACRES. COME ON IN AND SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. 75 TO 100 ACRES GOING TO BE ONE BIG FACE. THEN WE WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL SAYING, YEP, RIGHT OUT OF THE BAT, UH, THE P. C A. B AND THE VILLAGE COUNCIL ARE GONNA WANT TO SEE EVERYTHING FROM YOUR GENERAL CONCEPT ALL THE WAY UP TO PARTICULARLY HOW YOU'RE GOING TO LAY STUFF OUT. WHAT SORT OF LIGHT FIXTURES YOU'RE GOING TO USE? WHAT SORT OF SIGNAGE YOU'RE GOING TO USE, BUT FOR A MULTIPHASE PROJECT OVER MANY YEARS, UM, GETTING INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL FOR WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN PHASE FOUR. UM IS DIFFICULT AND NOT TYPICAL. SO THERE ARE OTHER COMMENTS THAT THAT MR HUTCH CRAFT PROVIDED AS WELL AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK A FAIR NUMBER OF THEM ARE USEFUL.

BUT I THINK THAT WAS A BIG OVERARCHING ONE, AND I THINK A LITTLE BIT OF THE SURGERY. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO TEASE OUT IN A REVISED VERSION OF THIS BEFORE YOUR NEXT MEETING. AND SO WITH

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OBJECTIVE METRICS SET OUT IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALL OVER THE PLACE, PARTICULARLY IN OUR FUTURE LAND USE, UM, ELEMENT, BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE REST. FOR EXAMPLE, FOR EACH OF OUR FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES WE HAVE, UH, MINIMUM WE SET MINIMUMS CAN'T REMEMBER. WE CERTAINLY HAVE MAXIMUM DENSITIES. AH THAT IS REQUIRED UNDER THE STATUTE. WE HAVE MAXIMUM DENSITIES, UH, FOR EACH OF THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS THAT TENDS TO BE ONE OF THE PRIMARY METRICS. WE HAVE LEVELS OF SERVICE AND THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. THIS TIES INTO ALL SORTS OF OTHER THINGS, SUCH AS CONCURRENCY AND ULTIMATELY IMPACT THESE WHEN THEY COME BEFORE YOU, THEY ALL DERIVE OUT OF THE OBJECTIVE MEASUREMENTS THAT COME OUT OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO WE HAVE LEVELS OF SERVICE FOR PARKS FOR ROADS FOR ALL MANNER OF FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR ALL MANNER OF DIFFERENT, UM, OBJECTIVELY MEASURABLE THINGS THAT ALL ARE DRIVEN BY ADDING NEW SQUARE FOOTAGE OF COMMERCIAL SPACE OR ADDING NEW HUMAN BEING RESIDENTS TO THE VILLAGE. SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.

GET INTO THE WEEDS TO SOME DEGREE, UM, AND IT'S REQUIRED TO, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH OUR, UH, FUTURE LAND USE DISTRICTS. IT SPECIFIES THE GENERAL CATEGORIES OF USE THAT YOU CAN HAVE SO WE COULD NOT HAVE A P U D THAT WOULD GO ON TO, UM AND I FORGET OUR DESIGNATIONS RIGHT NOW, BUT BASICALLY AN INCREDIBLY ONE OF OUR FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS THAT IS FOR VERY LOW DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL AND SEMI AGRICULTURE. YOU COULD NOT GO PUTTING, UH, YOU KNOW A HIGH DENSITY, MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON IT, AND YOU COULD NOT GO PUTTING IN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT ON IT. EVEN IF YOU DID A P U D SO THERE THERE ARE A GREAT DEAL OF RAILS THAT ARE BUILT INTO OUR COMP PLAN. UH THERE BUT THOSE THOSE STAND AS MINIMUMS. I WILL TELL YOU AS WELL THAT WITH REGARD TO P U. D S AND IT'S HOW WE TEND TO DO IT AROUND THE STATE AND HOW WE DID IT IN THE TERRA LAGO P U D AGREEMENT. UM IT IS. WE SAY IT'S A SELF CONTAINED ZONING CODE OR SELF CONTAINED DRS. IN REALITY, WHAT ENDS UP BEING AS YOU END UP WITH EITHER FIVE PAGES, 10 PAGES OR 90 PAGES IN THE CASE OF TERRA LAGO OF SPECIFIC SPECIFICATIONS . AND THEN IT SAYS, WHERE NOT MODIFIED IN THIS AGREEMENT, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS APPLY. SO THEN WE'RE SUBSUMING IN THOSE HUNDREDS OF PAGES OF REGULATIONS THAT EVERYBODY SPENT A LONG TIME WORKING ON INTO IT JUST AS MODIFIED IN THAT P U D AGREEMENT, SO IT'S NOT LIKE THERE IS A VACUUM OF REGULATION

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BUT REALLY H OAS ARE PRIVATE ASSOCIATIONS AMONG THE. PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WHETHER IT'S THE VILLAGE OR THE COUNTY DON'T GENERALLY GET INVOLVED WITH ANY OF THOSE MATTERS OR TAKING OVER UPKEEP, FOR EXAMPLE OF. OF WHAT ARE OR WERE COMMON ELEMENTS WITHIN AN H O A OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. UM. SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S LEGALLY AUTOMATIC THAT IT FALLS THROUGH THE VILLAGE TO DEAL WITH AN ISSUE IF IT HAD BEEN AN H O. A ISSUING THE H O A HAS GONE DEFUNCT. I KNOW THAT DIDN'T COMPLETELY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. BUT THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT AS MUCH AS I THINK I COULD DIVE INTO THANK YOU TURN AWAY. OKAY. ARE WE READY TO VOTE? WHICH MEANING? ARE WE CONTINUING THIS TOO? DEPENDS ON WHAT. I THOUGHT WE WEREN'T GOING TO VOTE. WELL, WE WADE, COULD WE JUST WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION RATHER THAN.

CONTINUE IT BECAUSE IF IT TAKES US LONGER, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, AND IF WE GET MORE QUESTIONS I MEAN, WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE OUGHT TO WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION. I MEAN, IF WE GET MORE GOOD COMMENTS AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS, WE'VE GOT TO DO IT. WE'LL JUST IN MAY ASK HIM. HEY WE GOT GOOD STUFF WORK AND GIVE US ANOTHER MONTH. I I'D RECOMMEND WE JUST, UM CONTINUE IT, TOO. MAY FOR RIGHT NOW. THAT WOULD BE MAY 5TH.

I LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT APPLICATION NUMBER LD R DASH 22-8 B CONTINUED UNTIL NEXT MEETING WHICH IS MAY 5TH 2022 SECONDS. BOARD MEMBER BANKS. YES REMEMBER, PEREZ? YES REMEMBER

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[DIRECTOR'S REPORT]

WE CAN NOW CROSS CASA VEGA OFF THAT LIST. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE RECEIVED THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE. TRACTOR SUPPLY IS ALSO NEARING THAT FINISH LINE FOR ITS CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, BUT STILL IN REVIEW. WE HAVE SEMINAL JUNCTION. WE HAVE PARKVIEW APARTMENTS, RCC CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS AN INDUSTRIAL PROJECT. AND AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD TERRA LAGO. MASTER PLAN AND PHASE ONE. A SITE PLAN APPROVED BACK IN DECEMBER. YEAH, YOU WOULD. LIKE TO KNOW. HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, GREEN CARBON SOLUTIONS OUT ON FOX BROWN ROAD.

AH, MAYBE BREAKING GROUND. THEY ARE CLOSE TO RECEIVING A BUILDING PERMIT AS WELL WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. DEPENDING ON THEIR NEXT RECENT MIDDLE, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE ADDRESSING THE BUILDING OFFICIALS COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. IN TERMS OF YOUR EXISTING GOALS AND ACHIEVEMENTS, MOST OF US WERE ABLE TO ATTEND THE FIELD TRIP AND ST LUCIE COUNTY. AND. I HAVE ANOTHER ITEM ACTUALLY UPCOMING FOR YOU ALL TO VIRTUALLY ATTEND ANOTHER MEETING , AND I'LL BE SENDING THAT TO YOU IN THE MORNING. I'LL MAKE MYSELF A NOTE NOW. AND YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION. WE HAVE JUST COMPLETED OR THE VILLAGE MANAGER AND COUNCIL, ALONG WITH STAFF HAS JUST COMPLETED ITS STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION FOR THE VILLAGE AS A WHOLE. ON APRIL 2ND. AND SO NOW IS AN APPROPRIATE TIME IS THAT DRAFT IS FORMULATED FOR US TO SET UP A MEETING FOR YOU AND HAVE A STRATEGIC FINDING SESSION AS WELL. OUT WE DID SET A GOAL TO ALSO ATTEND. SOME STAFF HOSTED WORKSHOPS. SO I AM LOOKING. FOR YOUR INPUT. IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC TOPICS YOU WANT TO HEAR ABOUT AND STAFF CAN DO. UM SOME RESEARCH ON THOSE TOPICS AS THEY RELATE TO THE VILLAGE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM WITH YOU TONIGHT, YOU CAN TEXT ME OR EMAIL ME YOUR SUGGESTIONS. SO COMING IN MAY. THIS IS ALREADY CHANGED. WE WILL BE SEEING THE P U D ORDINANCE. AND THE LIVE WORK UNITS. AND THREE MITIGATION AND TREAT MITIGATION FUND. UPCOMING IN JUNE. WE HOPE TO BRING THE WORKSHOP TO YOU KNOW APPLICATIONS JUST YET. SO AGAIN IF YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A TOPIC, PLEASE LET US KNOW. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS MONTH'S REPORT? I HAVE ONE COMMENT ON A SEPARATE ISSUE. I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE NEARING THE END. BUT WHEN YOU'RE DONE IF I HAD MADE WITH THE CHAIRS, PERMISSION GO AHEAD. WHAT HE WANTS TO SPEAK AT THE END OF THE OH YEAH, NO PROBLEM. NOT A PROBLEM. ANY OTHER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE ON YOUR LAST SLIDE. YOU HAD SOMETHING ABOUT, UH FINISHED FLOOR CRITERIA. THAT

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ESTABLISHED THE MINIMUM HEIGHT MHM SO THAT THE BUILDING DOESN'T FLAG WHICH IS RELATED TO LIKE HOW MUCH FILL DIRT SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO BRING IN IN RELATION TO THE ROAD. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE IS THAT HOW THAT'S MEASURED? IT'S MEASURED. THE COLD WILL DEFINE HOW IT'S MEASURED. UH TYPICALLY FROM, UH , THE CROWN OF THE CENTER OF THE ADJACENT ROAD. I BELIEVE IT'S HOW IT RIGHT DEFINED RIGHT. BUT WE WON'T BE BRINGING THAT TO YOU. OKAY WELL, I'M JUST UNDERSTANDING THE TERMINOLOGY, YOU KNOW. YEAH FINISHED FINISHED FLOOR CRITERIA. THAT'S THAT'S IN REFERENCE TO ESTABLISHING AS OBVIOUS, SAID THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION. THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE ESTABLISHES A MINIMUM FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION, BUT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE ALLOWED TO ESTABLISH, UH, A HIGHER FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION AGAIN THAT ALL GOES TO, UM AH FLOODPLAIN ISSUES AND FLOOD MITIGATION AND SO ON. YOU TEND TO YOU TEND TO FIND, FOR EXAMPLE. IN COASTAL AREAS, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WILL SET FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATIONS, UH, SOMETIMES SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER THAN THE FLORIDA BUILDING, CODE MINIMUM AND, UM IN CERTAIN AREAS , EVEN INLAND LIKE AN INDIAN TOWN. THERE MAY BE GOOD REASON TO SET FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION IS SOMETHING THAT EXCEEDS THE UM FOR BUILDING CODE MINIMUM FOR FLOODING PURPOSES. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I FINISHED, UM YES, MADAM CHAIR. OKAY UM, UH, YOU'RE WELCOME BOARD MEMBERS OF HAYATE. AH! CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? UM THERE IS A GAZEBO THAT HAS BEEN FINISHED. THE CONSTRUCTION OF AT THE VILLAGE SQUARE TO WHERE THE DUNKIN DONUTS PLAZA IS. AND THE THERE'S GOING TO BE A, UH, DEDICATION TO THE THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT SIGNED THEIR NAMES TO THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWNS, INCORPORATION PAPERS. THOSE INDIVIDUALS THOSE COURAGEOUS INDIVIDUALS IF I MAY ADD, OR EVA MARTINEZ, FILLMORE WATERS AND ART MATTSON THEY WANTED TO PLAN A DEDICATION OF SOME SORT TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND AGAIN, WHICH THE GAZEBO WILL BE DEDICATED TO, AND I JUST WANTED TO INVITE EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD. MISS PALMER. MISS MILEY, MS. BANKS MUST PRESSLER, MR. WILLIAMS MISS EVERMAN, EVERYBODY AT STAFF, EVERYBODY AT COUNCIL AND I JUST IF I COULD JUST ASK THE VILLAGE CLERK OR SOMEONE FROM STAFF TO JUST COME UP WITH SOME DATES. UM THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. IT SHOULD BE A NICE. AH, CELEBRATION THERE AND JUST WANT TO INVITE EVERYBODY AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THANK YOU, MEMBER, SORAYA. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER CONCERNS BEFORE WE ADJOURN? OKAY? THIS ME

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.