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IT INTO ORDER. ROLL CALL COUNCIL MEMBER STONE HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER, THOMAS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ HERE, VICE MAYOR DOWN IS NOT HERE. AT THIS TIME. AND MARY CLARK HERE. WE WILL HAVE THE INVOCATION BY PASTOR BOOTH OF THIRD STREET CHURCH OF GOD, FOLLOWED BY THE PRESIDENT LIED TO THE STATE YOUR NAME WHEN YOU COME UP THERE, SIR. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
I'M BISHOP. CAR BOOTH PESTERS BOOKER PARK CHURCH REGARD ON 616 TONIGHT. DR BOOKER, PAUL. LET US PRAY. FATHER IN THE NAME OF YOUR SON. JESUS HERE WE ARE DECEIVED. GOD FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GO. I THANK YOU FOR THIS MEETING. PRINTED EVERYTHING WILL BE DONE. DISSIDENT ORDER GUARD THAT ONLY ELECTORAL FISHES, GOD WILL REALIZE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF THIS VILLAGE. AND THAT THEY WILL BE DEDICATED TO SERVING THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ELECTED THEM. GOD WILL GIVE YOU PRAISE ON THEIR GLORY IN JESUS' NAME. AMEN. MHM, MHM.
AND OR AGENTS THROUGH THE FIRE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AT THIS TIME.
[ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, PULLED ITEMS OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS]
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS FOR ITEMS OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS? MADAM MAYOR.SYSTEM. GO AHEAD. I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST TO MOVE THE DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. I HAD REQUESTED OF STAFF TO PUT THIS ON AS A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM. AND THIS IS THE SECOND MEETING THAT I'VE ATTEMPTED TO SUBMIT A NOMINATION OF MRS PHYLLIS BROWN TO THE PC ABOARD BEFORE THEIR NEXT MEETING ON FEBRUARY, THE THIRD AND THIS WOULD MAKE A 47 MEMBER BOARD. DO YOU HAVE TO DO IS GET MR BROWN. NO, GO AHEAD. RECOGNIZE THAT DEVICE MAKER HAS CAME. WELCOME LETTER. READ IT ON FOR YOU FOR YOU SO YOU CAN HEAR WHAT SHE SAID. SHE WANTED TO MOVE ITEM EIGHT TILL THE AGENDA. INSTEAD OF A DISCUSSION, PLEASE. YES. ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COUNCIL. DO ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT? I DO HAVE ONE COUNCILWOMAN. HERNANDEZ.
OPEN UP A DISCUSSION. I'M JUST WAITING. I THINK THAT THE STAFF REQUESTED. THE NAME TO BE GIVEN SO BECAUSE THERE WAS NO NAME UM, I THOUGHT IT WASN'T DISCUSSION. SO I REALLY THINK THAT LEAVING IT UP TO THE PC ABOARD, RIGHT NOW WOULD BE, UM ESSENTIAL. ANY MORE DISCUSSION BY THE COUNCIL.
YES I THINK WE SHOULD ACTUALLY TABLED THE ITEM. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE FOUND DIFFICULTY IS, IS, UH, WITH ALL THAT IT HAS BEEN HAPPENING. IT WOULD PROBABLY MAKE SENSE TO HAVE EACH COUNCIL MEMBER APPOINT ONE PERSON. THAT WOULD MAKE IT FIVE UNTIL WE ARE THINK A LITTLE BIT OLDER AND IN THIS PROCESS, SO THAT IS MY TAKE. WHATEVER THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNSELORS.
COUNCILOR STONE. OKAY, SO BASICALLY IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, YOU REQUEST TO HAVE IT PUT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. YES, SIR. UM, THEY DID HERE WHO I WAS NOMINATING RIGHT? WELL JUST NOW, BUT IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, OK AND NEVER HAS BEEN. IT IS ALWAYS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR LAST MEETING. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON THE AGENDA AS AN APPOINTMENT TO AND I THINK THAT IT MAY BE GOOD TO BRING BACK JUST A GENERAL DISCUSSION ABOUT USING THE LANGUAGE OF APPOINTMENT OR NOMINEE BECAUSE THE TRUE APPOINTMENT IS SOMEBODY THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW A POINT AND THAT'S WHO IT IS. A NOMINEE WOULD BE SOMEBODY THAT THE WHOLE COUNCIL VOTES ON SO I AM JUST TRYING RIGHT NOW. LIKE I MENTIONED IN THE REQUEST. THERE IS CURRENTLY SIX PEOPLE THAT SIT
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ON THAT BOARD AND THIS WOULD TAKE IT TO THE SEVEN THAT IT HAS ORIGINALLY. UP. BEEN FROM THE BEGINNING. THE NUMBER OF. GO AHEAD, GUYS. NO I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHY THEY DIDN'T PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. BUT I MEAN, REALISTICALLY, I WOULD SAY, IF YOU'RE PUTTING SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME MEAT TO IT. OKAY SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION LIKE WE HAD LAST MEETING. THIS IS I'M JUST MY TURN TO SPEAK. IF YOU DON'T MIND, BECAUSE NOW WE TABLED THIS. WE WERE SUPPOSED IT IS TABLED. AH PROVIDING THE JOSH KELLUM UM MEETING THAT MEETING WITH THE PC, A BOARD DID NOT MEET BECAUSE AT THE END WAS SICK. SO WE'RE TECHNICALLY AND TRUTHFULLY, WE ARE WAITING ON A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PC ABOARD. SO WE NEED TO SEIZE FROM PEOPLE PUTTING IN APPLICATIONS OR GETTING APPOINTED UNTIL WE HEAR RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PC BOARD. BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT NOBODY FEEL LIKE OH, WE APPOINTED THEM. THEN THERE'S SOMETHING HAPPENED. WE ARE WAITING ON THE RECOMMENDATION.FOR THE PIZZA FROM THE PIZZA BOARD. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD MAKE MUCH LOGICAL SENSE BEFORE WE GO APPOINT ANYBODY ELSE DOES . DO I GET A CONSENSUS? NOT I MEAN EVERYBODY HERE. KNOW WHO YOU KNOW. MISS PHYLLIS IS BUT WE NEED TO WAIT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM. AND THIS HAS BEEN ON HOLD. I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED TO HEAR THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PC. A BOARD. UH, DID YOU HAVE IT? WE'RE JUST GOING TO SAY I AGREE WITH YOU. THAT'S FINE. MISS SUSAN GIBBS. OKAY THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION ON THAT. THAT HAS NOT COME UP IN THESE COUNCIL MEETINGS BEFORE. I WAS NOT AWARE THAT WE WERE WAITING ON A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE B C. A BOARD. I KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT IT IT SHOWS UP ON THEIR AGENDA ITEM. BUT WE'VE NEVER DISCUSSED IT. SO I HAD NO IDEA THAT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. SO THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. ARE WE IN CONSENSUS TO WAIT TILL WE HEAR FROM THE PC ABOARD? YES ROLL CALL, MADAM. I MEANT I'M SORRY, DARYN. UM THAT'S THAT'S OKAY. MAN. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER STONE. YES. ALSO MEMBER THOMAS. WAS THERE ACTUALLY EMOTIONALLY NEED THAT WE NEED TO VOTE ON. I THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST A CONSENSUS. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING READY TO, BECAUSE SOMEONE TO GIVE EMOTION FOR US TO WAIT UNTIL WE HEAR FROM THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PC ABOARD THE TABLE THIS DO WE EVEN NEED EMOTION. NO, WE JUST NEED CONSENSUS. OKAY, SO WE GOT A CONSENSUS. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM. PROCLAMATIONS AWARDS AND SPECIAL
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Proclaiming January 28, 2022 as E. Thelma Waters Day
]PRESENTATIONS. PROCLAIM IN JANUARY 28 2022 AS THE THERMAL WATERS DAY. WHERE IS HE? THERMAL WATERS MOVED INTO INDIAN TOWN IN 1941 AND WAS A SIGNATORY OF THE 2017 ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION FOR THE VILLAGE OF THE INDIAN TOWN. AND WHERE IS THE THERMAL WATERS WAS A TIRELESS ADVOCATE FOR WOMEN, CHILDREN, MIGRANT LABORERS. AND HER HOMETOWN OF INDIAN TOWN AND HAS A DECADES LONG RECORD OF CARING AND ADVOCATION FOR OTHERS IN THE INDIAN TOWN COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS YOU TELL ME WATERS WAS LEADING FOR US FOR CIVIL RIGHTS, SUITABLE MIGRANT WORKER HOUSING , MEDICAL CARE, EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, QUALITY DAY CARE ACCESS TO VOTING PRECINCT.POLITICAL REPRESENTATION, AND IT'S SERVED ON INDIAN TOWN NONPROFIT HOUSING BOARD OF DIRECTORS HOPE WORLD SCHOOL BOARD OF DIRECTORS INDIAN TOWNS NEIGHBORHOOD. ADVISORY COUNCIL MARTIN COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, INDIAN TOWN TASK FORCE AND NUMEROUS OTHER COMMITTEE SPORTS TASK FORCE AND ORGANIZATIONS ACTIVE. IN THE IN THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS THE FLORIDA WOMEN'S HALL OF FAME WAS CREATED BY FLORIDA STATUE IN 1982 TO HONOR WOMEN WHO THROUGH THEIR LIVES AND EFFORTS MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS. TO THE IMPROVEMENT OF LIFE FOR WOMEN AND ALL FLORIDA CITIZENS. THERE ARE PIONEERS WHO HAVE BROKEN DOWN BARRIERS, CREATING NEW OPPORTUNITIES AND CHAMPION ISSUES TO BETTER FLORIDA AND ITS PEOPLE. AND WHEREAS THE FLORIDA COMMISSION ON THE STATUS OF WOMEN DETERMINED THAT THE THELMA WATERS EXEMPLIFIES WOMEN'S CONTRIBUTIONS TO FLORIDA LIFE AND CHOSE HER AS ONE OF THE TOP 10 FINALISTS FOR THE 2020, FLORIDA WOMEN'S HALL OF FAME. AND WHEREAS THE HONORABLE ROND DE SANTIS, GOVERNOR OF FLORIDA CHOSE TO RECOGNIZE THE LIFE OF THE THERMAL WATERS BY SELECTING HER AS ONE OF THREE INDUCTEES TO FLORIDA WOMEN'S HALL OF FAME FOR 2020, AND SHE WILL BE INDUCTED.
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INTO THE HALL OF FAME. JANUARY 28 2021, WHEREAS ON JANUARY 14 2021, THE VILLAGE ADOPTED RESOLUTION NUMBER ZERO ZERO 2-2021 DESIGNATED IN IN. APPROPRIATE TO ITTY AH, JANUARY 28TH AS THE THERMAL WATERS DAY IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN NOW, THEREFORE, JACQUELINE GARY CLARK, MAYOR OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JANUARY 28TH AS HE THERMAL WATERS DAY. IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, FLORIDA AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO JOIN ME. AND THE VILLAGE IN RECOGNITION CELEBRATION OF HER WORK AND POSITIVE IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WITNESSED THERE ARE AS I HAVE HERE ON TO SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE VILLAGE. INDIAN TOWN, FLORIDA TO BE AFFIXED THIS 27TH DAY OF JANUARY, 2022.MHM. MM HMM. SERVICE. GREEN IS ON. I THINK SO. I THINK THE COUNCIL THANK THE VILLAGE FOR THE PROCLAMATION OF MY MOM. SHE WOULD BE THE LAST ONE TO BOTH. SO I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT. WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS ASK THAT ON SATURDAY. WE'RE HAVING A COMMUNITY WHERE I WHITE CLEAN UP. IF YOU WILL. PLEASE COME OUT AND ENDURE THE WEATHER. MHM OF CHILLINESS. FLORIDA WILL LEAVE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS, BUT IT WILL BE BACK. SO IF YOU CAN COME OUT WITH US AND HELP US CLEAN UP AND TAKE CARE OF OUR NEIGHBORS. I'D APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TIME. OH I'M SO SORRY. TIME IS EIGHT A.M. TO TWO P.M. I HOPE EVERYONE REMAINS UNTIL I'M SORRY UNTIL TWO PM BUT IF YOU DO NOT NO PROBLEM, I THANK YOU FOR THE TIME THAT YOU CAN GIVE US ON SATURDAY, SO WE'RE PICKING UP TRASH FROM OVER THE BRIDGE ALL THE WAY PAST BOOK A PARK. WE SHOULD TOUCH EVERY STREET BY THE TIME THAT WE FINISHED WASTE MANAGEMENT IS HELPING US A LOT WITH THAT. SO ISN'T KEEP MARTIN BEAUTIFUL. THE COUNCIL HAS DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD HELP ME AS WELL. WHICH IS SOME GOOD. UM MISERY LOVES COMPANY, SO WE'LL BE OUT FREEZING TO DEATH. SO PLEASE, COME ON OUT AND HELP US AND JUST HAVE SOME FUN. IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE WHO HAS THIS, DISABLE THAT ELDERLY OR JUST REALLY SICK AND CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THEIR YARD FOR THAT DAY WILL MOW IT, EDGETT AND TRIM IT FOR THEM ON THAT DAY, AS WELL AS CLEANUP. THANKS SO MUCH. THANK YOU. COME OUT. WE HAVE TWO LOCATIONS FOR MEETING SHOOT YOU YET, UM, ONE IS AT THE CIVIC CENTER. UM ANYTIME, CIVICS. I'M SO SORRY. YEAH, ANYTIME CIVIC CENTER. THE SECOND ONE IS AT THE VILLAGE.
REPARATION REX AND PARKS. DIVISION IS THAT RIGHT FOR FORMERLY DEPARTMENT APART, FIRE DEPARTMENT CALL THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT OFFICE, WHICH IS THE OLD FIRE DEPARTMENT BOOK APART. THANKS SO MUCH, AND WE START WALKING AT EIGHT O'CLOCK, SO PLEASE COME SIGN IN, SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN THANK YOU PROPERLY ONCE IT'S FINISHED. THANK YOU.
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Fire-Rescue Update by Chief Hornbostel
]THANK YOU. NOW WE WILL HAVE WORK. THANK YOU. UPDATE FROM THE FIRE CHIEF. GOOD EVENING. I'M DISTRICT CHIEF. TOM HORN, BOSTON HERE ON BEHALF OF MARTIN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE. WE LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU? SOME OF THE CALL STATS OVER THE LAST 30 DAYS IN TOWN. WE'VE HAD A TOTAL OF 130 CALLS 74 OF THOSE CALLS BEING MEDICAL CALLS. 37 MOVE UPS, FIVE FIRE RELATED CALLS AND 14 OTHER TYPE CALLS. AS WELL. ALSO, IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THERE WAS SOME CONCERN REGARDING A POSSIBLE STRUCTURE. FIRE CALL OVER IN INDIAN WOOD, WHERE THERE WAS FIRE HYDRANT THAT WAS NOT WORKING. WE LOOKED INTO OUR CAR LOG AND WERE UNABLE TO FIND ANY CALLS MATCHING THAT CALL TYPE, UM, TO OUR KNOWLEDGE. THERE'S NO ALL THE FIRE HEADS ARE WORKING IN THAT AREA. YEAH SORRY ABOUT THAT, GEORGE. IT'S ACTUALLY IT WAS THREE YEARS AGO. IT WAS OKAY. SO IT WASN'T LAST YEAR,[00:15:03]
AND I KNOW I TOLD YOU GUYS OKAY? LAST YEAR, ALL RIGHT, PERFECT. ALSO I WANT TO BRING THE BOARD'S ATTENTION. UM THAT WILL BE TRANSITIONING TO SENDING OUT A REPRESENTATIVE QUARTERLY AFTER TODAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. QUICK QUESTION. UM AT OUR LAST WHEN YOU GUYS WERE LAST HERE, UM, I WANTED TO SEE IF YOU GUYS COULD SEND THE RAW DATA. HAS THAT BEEN DONE? UM, I'M SORRY. NO, IT WAS. IT WAS A REQUEST. WE MADE A PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING. IT WAS RELATED TO IF WE CAN GET THE INFORMATION IN A MICROSOFT EXCEL. WOMAN INSTEAD OF A PDF FILE INSTEAD OF A PDF, OKAY, I'LL LOOK INTO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PUBLIC[PUBLIC COMMENT (3 MINUTES EACH)]
COMMENTS ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS YES, MADAM MAYOR. LINDA NIKE, UI WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING SOFTWARE THAT WAS AUTHORIZED AT THE LAST MEETING NOT TO EXCEED $175,000. I WANTED TO FIND OUT IF THAT NUMBER ALSO INCLUDES THE UPGRADING AND THE REPLACEMENT OF ALL OF OUR EXISTING EQUIPMENT, BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT WE'RE NOT TOTALLY UP TO SNUFF FOR THIS BRAND NEW, EXPENSIVE SOFTWARE. PLUS THE END WILL MAINTENANCE. HOW MUCH IS THAT GOING TO RUN, PLUS THE UPDATES ON THE PROGRAM AND THE TRAINING AND RETRAINING OF OUR REVOLVING EMPLOYEES.THESE ARE JUST ALL THINGS THAT. I NEED. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ADDRESSED WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT CHANGING OUT SOFTWARE AT THAT COST. SECOND I WANTED TO A PLOY. I'D APPLAUD PHYLLIS WATER'S BROWN WITH HER COMMUNITY CLEANUP PROJECT. WE ALL NEED TO REMIND EVERYONE TO GET OUT.
EVERYONE WE SEE TO GET OUT THE TRASH AND THEY HELP US CLEAN UP OUR BEAUTIFUL VILLAGE. I'M HAPPY THAT THE VILLAGE HAS FOUND. MANY WAYS TO ASSIST IN MAKING THIS HAPPEN. THERMO WOULD BE TICKLED PINK. AND I'M SURE SHE'S SMILING DOWN ON US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS, DARING NO MATTER I'M HERE. COMMENTS SPOT OF VILLAGE MEMBERS. I'M GOING TO GO FIRST.
[COMMENTS BY VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS]
WE HAD AN ADVOCACY MEETING TODAY. AND AH WE GOT A LOT OF BILLS THAT'S COMING OUT. AND AHA LOT OF THEM COULD AFFECT UP IF THEY GET PAST AND BUILD NUMBER. 6 20 IS, UH, THE HOT TOPIC RIGHT NOW. AND I WANT WAIT AND, UM MR BROWN AND I BELIEVE YOU TOLD ME THAT YOU AND COUNCILWOMAN HER NAME IS HAVE A MEETING WITH MS REBECCA TOMORROW, BUT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS BILL. BECAUSE IF NOT ONLY THIS ONE, AND IF THAT REFERENDUM FOR THE TAXES AND THE SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY GET PAST. UH WE COULD BE IN SOME DEEP TROUBLE, NOT ONLY US, BUT OTHER SMALLER CITIES. WHO YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR THIS. THIS IMPACT. NO OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION. MR BROWN. WELL MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S SENATE BILLS. 8 22 80 THAT ARE OUT THERE. I'M NOT 36 20 AND 2 80 THAT ARE OUT THERE AND THEY INVOLVE, UH, A NUMBER OF THINGS, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT REQUIRES THAT IF THE VILLAGE OF ANY TOWN ADOPTS AN ORDINANCE OR CHANGES IN ORDINANCE OR ADOPTS A BUT REVISED OUR CHARTER. WE HAVE TO DO A BUSINESS INCOME ESTIMATE AND THIS BUSINESS INCOME ESTIMATE IS AN ESSENTIAL REQUIREMENT. ORDER TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AND SO YOU KNOW. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE NEVER SEEN IN MY CAREER. I'VE WORKED AS A CITY MANAGER IN THREE DIFFERENT STATES. AND SO THIS IS UNUSUAL. THE GO DOWN THIS ROAD, SO WE NEED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO GO. YOU KNOW THE LOBBY OUR STATE LEGISLATORS AS WELL AS ENGAGE OUR LOBBYISTS TO, UM TO DEAL WITH THAT. I KNOW. MAYBE COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ WANTS TO TALK FURTHER ABOUT WHAT SHE'S BEEN DOING, BUT I'VE BEEN SIDE BY SIDE WITH HER LAST 24 HOURS TALKING ABOUT THIS, AND SHE CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL IF SHE LIKE . I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO REALLY STRATEGIZE ON GETTING A LETTER OUT SINCE POSSIBLE SIGNED BY THE MAYOR ASAP. AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, BUT I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. AND JUST TO YOU KNOW, ADD ONTO THAT. UM I DID HAVE A[00:20:07]
TREASURE COAST LEGO CITIES. MEETING. YESTERDAY AND SINCE THEN IT'S BEEN NONSTOP CALLING MR BROWN AND WE CALLED OUR LOBBYISTS AND I EMAILED SENATOR HAROLD LAST NIGHT AND I'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH WITH SENATOR HAROLD UM, SINCE LAST NIGHT, AND THIS AFTERNOON. SHE KNOWS THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM WHEN THE TAXPAYERS WILL BE ASKING US . WHY DIDN'T WE DO THIS? YOU KNOW OUR HANDS ARE TIED. IT'S THE STATE LEGISLATOR. THAT'S YOU KNOW, TRYING TO PASS THIS BUILT SP 6 20. AND UNFORTUNATELY I KNOW THAT TODAY OR YESTERDAY THEY HAD THE BILL. UM YEAH, NO. TODAY THEY HAD THE HEARING, AND , UM IT PAST 22 TO 4 22 GAYS. 14 DAYS AND TWO OR THREE DIDN'T VOTE, SO I KNOW IT'S GOING TO PASS NO MATTER WHAT. AND TOMORROW WE HAVE A MEETING WITH A LOBBYISTS. THE FLORIDA LEADS US CITIES. LOBBYIST THAT'S HEADING THIS. REBECCA UM MR BROWN, THE STAFF AND MYSELF BECAUSE I'M I'M ONE OF THOSE THAT IS REALLY CONCERNED WITH THIS BILL, BECAUSE LET ME PUT IT IN THIS PERSPECTIVE IF. WE ARE ONLY FOUR YEARS OLD, AND WE HAVE NOT EVEN GOTTEN TO WHAT OTHER CITIES AROUND US THAT HAVE EXISTED. UM DAVID EXISTED FOR MANY YEARS, AND THEY HAVE MANY ORDINANCES. THEY HAVE EVERYTHING SET UP. WHERE. BARELY I THINK BUILDING OUR DEPARTMENTS WE HAVE THE FIRST YEAR WAS OUT OF THE QUESTION. THE FIRST YEAR IT WAS FOR THE COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND, GET ELECTED AND FIND THE ESSENTIAL UM PEOPLE THAT WOULD WORK HERE, WHICH IS THE ATTORNEY AND THE MANAGER. SO THE FIRST YEAR WENT BY. THE SECOND YEAR WE STARTED EVERYTHING WITH OUR COM PLAN. THE THIRD YEAR WE DID OUR L. D. R S. AND THEN WE'RE BARELY GETTING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT ROLL INTO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ROLLED AND WE HAVE TO PASS ORDINANCES. SO WE FOR EVERY TIME THAT WE WOULD PASS AN ORDINANCE FOR SOMETHING NEW THAT WE'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE, AND OTHER CITIES DO THIS ON A DAILY BASIS, THEY DON'T THESE ORDINANCES WOULD BE GRANDFATHER DEAD. WELL WE WOULD HAVE TO SPEND A BIT OR DO A BUSINESS STATEMENT FOR EVERY ORDINANCE WE HAVE TO DO. SO THAT'S MONEY THAT STAFF TIME THAT'S MONEY ON TRYING TO DO THE BUSINESS STATEMENT. THEN WE HAVE TO, UM IF SOMEONE COMES IN AND DOES A LAWSUIT WHO PAYS FOR THE LAWSUIT? THE TAXPAYERS DO SO FOR EVERY LAW, SO WE GET A TAXPAYER WILL PROBABLY GET HIT AT THE END WITH THE TAX BILL. SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAVING OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO PUSH AND HELP. UM OUR COUNCIL AND THIS IS WHAT I DO THINK THAT THANK YOU TO MAYOR CLARKE. UM FOR, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT. THIS IS THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO YOU KNOW THERE'S OTHER THINGS GOING ON IN THE VILLAGE. BUT THIS IS THE TIME. THAT THE COUNCIL THIS IS WHAT WE WERE ELECTED TO DO.WE WERE ELECTED TO GET THINGS DONE. AND IF OUR TAXPAYERS ARE GOING TO BE ARE GOING TO BE, UM HER AT THE END OF THE DAY. WE'RE NOT DOING OUR JOBS. SO SINCE LAST NIGHT I'VE BEEN EMAILING.
I'VE BEEN TAXING. I GOT SENATOR HEROIN ACTUALLY TOLD HER AROUND THREE P.M. TODAY IF SHE NEEDED, UM SHE'S BEEN BUSY BECAUSE I KNOW STATE LEGISLATOR IS STILL IN MEETINGS. BUT I'VE ASKED HER IF SHE CAN CAN CALL ME AND WE CAN GET WITH STUFF AND TALK TO HER SO SHE CAN UNDERSTAND BECAUSE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN IS NEIL. WE'RE NOT LIKE, UH, WELLINGTON OR WE'RE NOT LIKE MIAMI BEACH. THEY'VE BEEN ESTABLISHED YEARS AND WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST FLOURISHING WERE BARELY WERE BARELY CRAWLING. I THINK SO I DO THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE OUR COLLEAGUES TO JOIN IN THIS EFFORT. I KNOW THAT THIS BILL IS GOING TO BE PASSED, BUT I THINK THAT IF WE CAN PUSH FOR A PROPOSAL, WHICH I'VE BEEN TALKING TO OUR ATTORNEY ABOUT TRYING TO DO SOME PROPOSAL EITHER POPULATION OF LESS THAN 10,000 OR ANYONE THAT HAS BEEN. RECENTLY INCORPORATED IN THE
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LAST 10 15 YEARS. SO THAT YOU KNOW WHILE WE GET OURSELVES INTO MORE SETTLED GROUND. THIS WOULDN'T IMPACT US AS A MAJOR, BECAUSE THIS RIGHT HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING A BUSINESS STATEMENT FOR EVERY ORDINANCE, AND WE HAVE HUNDREDS STILL TO DO ITS WERE NEW. WE HAVEN'T EVEN DONE ANYTHING MAJOR. HERE ARE DEVELOPMENT IS JUST STARTING SO I DO THINK THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE INFORMED. THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO START BEING GAUGED. I WOULD LIKELY TO LIKE TO REQUEST MR CALDWELL. PLEASE MAKE THOSE PHONE CALLS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE PREVIOUSLY DONE THEM.BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT EACH TAXPAYER AT THE END OF THE DAY. AND TO PIGGYBACK OFF THAT SO SOON I DID SPEAK WITH REBECCA . WHO IS THE CHAIR FOR THIS COMMITTEE. SO WHEN YOU ALL MEET WITH HER TOMORROW WITH THE TREASURE COAST LEAGUE, OUR ADVOCACY, UM ZOOM TODAY. SO THE QUESTION YOU NEED TO ASK HER. WE NEED THOSE TALKING POINTS HOT TOPICS THAT SHE USED WHEN SHE WAS MAKING HER PRESENTATION. WE DON'T NEED TO READ 560 PAGES, BUT WE NEED THE HOT TOPICS OR THE POINTS THAT SHE MADE. AND THEN WITH THE STAFF HERE, THEY CAN COME TOGETHER TO PUT THE LANGUAGE TOGETHER TO YOU KNOW, SO WE COULD PRESENT THIS NEXT WEEK. IT GOES TO THE FLOOR, SO WE NEED SOMETHING BY NEXT WEDNESDAY. SHE TOLD ME IT GOES TO THE FLOOR. NEXT WEEK. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. CAN CAN WE DRAFT A LETTER? UM WELL, THAT'S SUPPORT. MHM THAT'S WHAT BEFORE WE ASKED HER TO ACT WITH THOSE HOT TOPICS THAT MISS REBECCA USED WHEN SHE WAS, YOU KNOW, ON OUR BEHALF WHEN SHE WAS TALKING TO THE SURE THAT WE GET THAT TOMORROW, SUMMARIZING THANK YOU.
AND YES, WAIT BEFORE WE MOVE ON A JUST WANTED TO ILLICIT A LITTLE DISCUSSION. CONVINCING THE FOLKS UP IN TALLAHASSEE THAT THIS BILL IS STILL BAD. I WILL SUGGEST YOU AS A LOST CAUSE IN AND OF ITSELF. THE CARVING OUT AN EXEMPTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IN LIGHT OF OUR MULTIPLE SITUATIONS HERE SOUNDS LIKE A BETTER ROUTE. UM, WE'VE WHEN WE WERE SPEAKING PREVIOUSLY ABOUT IT. WE WERE BOUNCING AROUND DIFFERENT OPTIONS, ONE OF THEM AND I WANTED TO GET EVERYONE'S INPUT HERE TO SEE WHAT YOUR THOUGHT WAS TO WHAT TO ADVOCATE UP THERE. ONE OF THEM IS TO, UM , EXEMPT FROM THE APPLICATION OF THIS STATUTE. MUNICIPALITIES WITH A POPULATION OF 10,000, OR FEWER. ALRIGHT THAT'S ONE POSSIBILITY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS ALL COMING OUT OF AN EXTRA GRIND OUT OF SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED DOWN IN MIAMI DADE WITH MUCH BIGGER STUFF. AND SO THE HOPE WOULD BE THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT BE APPEALING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS GOING TO IMPOSE A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS AND A LOT OF FINANCIAL RISK ON MUNICIPALITIES GOING FORWARD, PARTICULARLY SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES. THE OTHER OPTION , WHICH WOULD BE MUCH MORE NARROW, BUT IT HASN'T ARGUABLY EVEN MORE POINTED ARGUMENT IN FAVOR OF IT. IS AS COUNCIL MEMBER, HERNANDEZ MENTIONED. GUINNESS PENALTIES DURING THEIR FIRST X NUMBER OF YEARS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, EXEMPTING FROM THE APPLICATION OF THE STATUTE MUNICIPALITIES DURING THE 1ST 10 YEARS OF THEIR CORPORATE EXISTENCE. WHICH GIVES WOULD GIVE THAT WOULD ENCOMPASS I TOOK A LOOK. THAT WOULD BE THREE MUNICIPALITIES IT WOULD CURRENTLY AFFECT IT WOULD BE US WEST LAKE AND IS TERRIBLE. UM AND THAT WOULD GIVE THE THREE OF US IN THE NAVY, OTHER FUTURE MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE CREATED THE OPPORTUNITY WITHIN THEIR 1ST 10 YEARS TO SET UP THERE. CODE OF ORDINANCES AND EVERYTHING THE WAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT. THAT WOULD BE A MUCH MORE NARROW. CARVE OUT, UM 10,000 OR FEWER. I TOOK A LOOK JUST ON THE LISTS AVAILABLE. YOU CAN SORT BY POPULATION. SO ON OUT OF THE FOUR ARE WE AT 4 12 OR 4 11 RIGHT NOW? WELL BEFORE 12 I THINK IT WILL OUT OF THE 4 12 MUNICIPALITIES. AH UNDER 10,000 IS ACTUALLY 243 OF THEM. SO EVERY EXAMPLE MORE THAN IT WOULD EXEMPT MORE THAN HALF OF THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE. SO THAT MAY BE A BIG ASK, AND I DON'T KNOW IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO ASK YOU KNOW, RIGHT MORE ON THE NOSE FOR US, 8000 OR SOMETHING. AND WE'RE GOING TO CROSS THAT. I MEAN, WE'LL CROSS THAT QUICKLY ENOUGH. SO THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE TOO ON THE EDGE. SO I WANTED YOUR THOUGHTS. WHAT YOU WHAT SHOULD WE PITCH? YES COUNCILWOMAN GIVES. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. CLARIFICATION I WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, THINKING ALONG THE SAME LINES, UM THE 10,000 WITH THE PROPOSED PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE
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IN OUR PIPELINE ALREADY AND WHAT OUR CURRENT POPULATION IS. HOW LONG DO WE ANTICIPATE IT WILL TAKE UNTIL WE REACH THAT 10,000 AND WE'LL GO BEYOND IT. IS IT LESS THAN THAT 10 YEARS, WHICH I'M SURE IT'LL PROBABLY BE SO THEN. THE NEXT POINT IS IF WE DO IT A TIMEFRAME 10 YEARS IS THAT 10 YEARS FROM INC OR IS THAT 10 YEARS FROM WHEN THIS BILL IS PASSED BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY ATE UP FOR THOSE YEARS? I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST AH TO MAKE IT. UM MORE CLEAR CUT AND MORE GENERALLY APPLICABLE TO NOT JUST US, AND THIS IS THE THING. IT WOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR THIS FOR THIS. BILL TO SAY THIS APPLIES EVERYWHERE EXCEPT INDIAN TOWN. OKAY THAT THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE A PROHIBITED LOCAL LAW . ALRIGHT, UM, MASQUERADING AS A GENERAL LAW. BUT YOU CAN COME UP WITH CATEGORIES ALRIGHT AND CATEGORY THAT THEY'RE JUST ZOOMS IN ON A COUPLE OF THEM. AND YOU ORDINARILY WANT TO MAKE IT SO THAT IT'S A CATEGORY THAT OTHER THINGS COULD DROP INTO.EVENTUALLY SO MY THOUGHT WAS I WAS JUST FOOLING AROUND. SOME LANGUAGE HERE WOULD BE DURING THE 1ST 10. YEARS OF MUNICIPALITIES EXISTENCE, SO STARTING COUNTING WHEN IT WHEN IT STARTS TO EXIST, SO WE WOULD HAVE MORE TIME THAN ESTERO. AND SO ON. SO WE'D HAVE BASICALLY UP UNTIL THE END OF 2027. WHICH. PROBABLY WOULD GIVE YOU ALL ENOUGH TIME TO SORT THROUGH EVERYTHING BY SOMETIME AT THE VERY LEAST. SO, YEAH, THAT WAS ON THAT ON THE OTHER END, AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'M NOT A PLANNER, SO I HAVE NO IDEA PRECISELY WHEN IT WOULD CROSS THAT. BUT I WOULD PEER SPECULATION IT WOULD. IT WOULD CROSS IT SOMETIME IN THE NEXT COUPLE. YEARS OF THINGS KEEP TRUCKING. I WOULD GUESS. SO WAIT. WHAT ABOUT THAT SOVEREIGNTY THAT IMMUNITY BILL? SO I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE LATEST VERSION OF IT. IT'S UM AT LEAST ONE VERSION PREVIOUSLY.
LET ME BACK UP AND SET IT UP FOR YOU ALL. SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, UH , MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES AND OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ENJOY SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY. WHAT THAT MEANS IS GENERALLY THE GENERAL'S SUPPOSED TO BE USED TO BE. CAN'T SEE THE GOVERNMENT, OKAY? BUT THEN THERE IS A STATUTE 7 68.28 THAT DOES A PARTIAL WAIVER OF SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF CLAIMS. ALRIGHT, AND THAT WAIVER IS 300,000 PER INDIVIDUAL DAMAGES SET UP LIKE INSURANCE IS 300,000 PER INDIVIDUAL. UP TO A TOTAL OF 400,004 OCCURRENCE. ALRIGHT. UM. AND SO THAT'S YOUR SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY. EXEMPTION CAP, RIGHT? WE ALL ARE. THE VILLAGE IS A MEMBER OF THE FLOOR LEADER. CITIES INSURANCE TRUST. OKAY, THERE ARE A COUPLE MUNICIPAL INSURANCE TRUST THROUGHOUT THE STATE. EACH OF THOSE ARE ALL SET UP AS A AS A TRUST OF BASICALLY ALL THE CITIES AND COUNTIES OR A LOT OF THEM, GETTING TOGETHER AND POOLING THEIR RESOURCES TO HAVE INSURANCE. THE WHOLE STRUCTURE OF HOW ANY OF THAT WORKS IS PREMISED ON THIS 700,000 CAP.
OKAY SO VERY FIRST THING THAT HAPPENS WHAT WHAT'S BEING CONSIDERED NOW UP IN THE LEGISLATURE IS UPPING THAT NUMBER. I THINK THE NUMBER IS A MILLION. I DON'T KNOW IT YET, UM, UPPING THAT TO A MILLION ALL RIGHT. WHAT THAT WOULD END. UP MEANING PRIMARILY IS OUR COSTS OF INSURANCE WOULD SKYROCKET. IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THAT, UM THAT THE INSURANCE STRESS I MIGHT BE OVERSTATING THIS. THEY KNOW BETTER, BUT FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, THEY MAY FALL APART.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S BE VERY DIFFICULT. UM. IT WOULD PUT THE VILLAGE AND OTHER PARTICULARLY SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES IN SHE HUGE EXPOSURE TO THE POSSIBILITY OF MUCH MORE CLAIMS. A LOT OF CLAIMS DON'T COME AGAINST MUNICIPALITIES BECAUSE THOSE SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY CAPS UM YOU KNOW, MAKE THEM NOT AS APPETIZING FOR TRIAL LAWYERS ARE OUT THERE LOOKING TO DO A TRIAL LAWYERS. MHM UM SO YEAH, THAT THAT'S. THAT'S WILDLY BAD, TOO. THERE'S A LOT OF WILDLY BAD STUFF UP THERE UNTIL LAST YEAR THIS YEAR. THANK YOU CLARIFICATION. IN MORE DISCUSSION, SO WHERE DOES EVERYBODY THINK? 10,000 OR FEWER , WHICH IS A LOT OF FOLKS OR NARROWED INTO 1ST 10 YEARS. GOING TO BE A COMBINATION. DEFINITELY A 10,000. LESS THAN A 10,000. BUT THE 10 YEARS PROBABLY WOULD BE A BETTER THAT PROBABLY BE MORE APPETIZING TO
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THEM. TO TAKE IT OVER THAT LONG PERIOD ORDER OUR THE LESS THAN THE 10,000 BECAUSE WE SHOW FALL UPON IT, BUT IT'S A GOOD THING TO KNOW. IT'S ONLY THREE PEOPLE, THREE CITIES. YOU KNOW, MUNICIPALITIES. WITH THAT LITTLE SMALL MARGIN. HOPEFULLY THERE HAVE SOME MERCY. VICE AMERICANS , COUNCILWOMAN. THANK YOU. YEAH I THINK THE, UM, THE 10 YEAR. TIME PERIOD WOULD PROBABLY MAKES SENSE AND PROBABLY PASS IN OUR FAVOR. SO THAT'S MY OPTION. COUNCILWOMAN GIVES OH, COUNCILMAN STONE. QUICK QUESTION . WHAT IF YOU GO BY BUDGET SIZE? I MEAN THAT TO ME. THAT WOULD MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A BUDGET OF $100 MILLION COMPARED TO $20 MILLION. THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. AS FAR AS NARROWING IT DOWN. I MEAN? MM HMM. TWO THOUGHTS ON THAT. UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHEN I'VE EVER SEEN A CAT. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE ILLEGAL, BUT OFTEN TIMES WE WANT TO. YOU WANT TO THROW CATEGORIES THAT LEGISLATORS THAT THEY'RE USED TO WORKING IN. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF AN EXAMPLE WHERE WHERE THEY DO THIS FOR MUNICIPALITIES ARE GOVERNMENTS WITH BUDGETS OF A CERTAIN SIZE VERSUS ANOTHER. I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT THE OTHER ISSUE IS SOMETIMES VERY DIFFICULT WHEN YOU LOOK AT BUDGETS BETWEEN DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY APPLES, APPLES AND PRIMARY EXAMPLE WOULD BE, UH, WATER AND SEWER. OKAY SO MUNICIPALITIES HAVE WATER AND SEWER. OTHERS DON'T WATER TOURS, BUDGETS GET HUGE. FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. YOU'RE SELLING A LOT OF WATER AND YOU'RE COLLECTING A LOT OF MONEY. UM SO IF YOU GET INTO THE WAY, I'M CONCERNED WITH THIS BILL BEING SO LATE STAGE IF YOU GET INTO THE WEEDS OF ALL RIGHT, WHAT DO WE MEAN BY THE BUDGET IS JUST THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET. WHAT IS THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET? WHAT IF THEY BREAK OUT? FIRE YOU KNOW, FIRE IS A SEPARATE THING BECAUSE OF CERTAIN THING. WHAT IF THEY BREAK OUT WATER AND SEWER? WHAT IF THEY DON'T? YOU'RE GETTING ALL THOSE WEEDS. THEY'RE JUST GOING TO SAY WE CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS AND WHATEVER SO SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE BOIL IT DOWN TO THE TIMEFRAME REALLY? IT'S TOTAL POPULATION. WE AND BY THE WAY WE COULD PITCH IN THE LETTER. BOTH YEAH, BUT WE CAN SAY HEY, WHAT'S THAT? I WOULDN'T DO 10,000. IT'S GOING TO BE LESS NOW. WE SAID 10 YEARS, RIGHT? NO POPULATION, RIGHT? STAND. WE'RE GOING TO HIT 10,000 PRETTY QUICK. IF WE GO MUCH LESS THAN 10,000 THAT WERE WERE KNOCKING AT THE EDGE IMMEDIATELY AND CAN YOU SAY WE'RE NOT DOING THIS FOR THE GREATER BENEFIT OF ALL THE CITIES OF WHATEVER DOING IT FOR INDIAN TOWN, PROBABLY 50 OTHER PEOPLE WILL BENEFIT. HOPEFULLY THEY ROT, RIGHT, RIGHT. WHITE PAPER SUITS RIGHT? YEAH, I WOULD. I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE 10 YEARS. THE YEARS OVER THE POPULATION BECAUSE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN THE POP WANT PIPELINE. YOU KNOW WHO KNOWS HOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS. I MEAN, WE MAY JUST EXPLODED AND GO SHOOTING PAST 10,000, OR, YOU KNOW THINGS MAY JUST KIND OF GO BUST LIKE IT HAS IN THE PAST AND NOT, BUT WE DON'T KNOW, BUT THE YEAR THING IS A DEFINITE AND FOR US A 10 YEAR, YOU KNOW, IT STILL GIVES US SIX YEARS. I DON'T KNOW, MR ARROW AND THE OTHER ONE WHERE THAT THEY FALL IN THAT TENURE TIMELINE. I MEAN, KEN, I GUESS 10 YEARS WOULD KIND OF BE A CAP. YOU CAN'T GO LONGER THAN THAT. YOU COULD HAVE JUST SOUNDS LIKE A NICE ROUND NUMBER. YEAH YOU DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR OUT THERE, BUT I THINK THE YEAR MAKES MORE SENSE AND EROS STEREOS BIG. AUDIENCE IT'S LIKE 30, SOMETHING 1000 POPULATION AND MORE RESOURCES AND STUFF. UH WESTLAKE IS KIND OF A CAPTIVE. IT'S A WEIRD ONE. IT'S BASICALLY OWNED BY DEVELOPERS. SO THAT WAS LIKE EIGHT PEOPLE. YEAH IT'S. IT'S OWN WEIRD DEAL, SO WE'D BE THE ONES TRULY BENEFITING FROM FROM THIS MORE THAN ANYTHING. DO WE KNOW HOW MANY YEARS THEY'VE GOT LEFT IN THAT 10 YEAR WINDOW STEREO WAS FORMED IN 2015. SO THEY'D HAVE TILL 2025. AND WEST WEST LAKE, AS I RECALL, WAS FORMED EARLIER IN 2017. SO THEY WOULD HAVE ROUGHLY THE SAME TIME AS US BUT UM, BUT AGAIN, THE FOLKS WHO IN FACT RUN THAT TOWN AH ALSO OWN THE WHOLE TOWN SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY LAWSUITS THERE ANYWAYS AS THEY'RE SETTING STUFF UP. COUNCILWOMAN. HERNANDEZ YES, AND I REALLY THINK THAT WE IF WE CAN ASK IT WOULD BE 15,000 POPULATION REASON. WHY, AS BECAUSE YOU HAVE[00:40:03]
MORE CITIES BACKING YOU UP, YOU'LL HAVE MORE STRENGTH AND NUMBERS THAN HAVING JUST, YOU KNOW, THE THREE WESTLAKE, ESTERO AND HERSELF AND IT'D BE BASICALLY TWO CITIES PUSHING FOR IT. WHEN YOU TRY TO PUSH FOR SOMETHING POSITIVELY AND YOU. YOU GET IT MORE WHEN YOU HAVE MORE NUMBERS, AND I KNOW THERE'S OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS. I HAVE, UM HEARD FROM IN THE SINCE YESTERDAY ARE UPSET BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE SAME BOAT. UM YOU KNOW, CITY OF SEBASTIAN CITY OF EURO BEACH, THEIR THEIR RURAL AREAS, AND A LOT OF THESE COMMUNITIES THERE ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED OUR RURAL AREAS JUST LIKE OURS. SO I THINK THAT IF WE CAN PUSH WITH, YOU KNOW SUPPORT FROM OTHER CITIES, IT WOULD HELP. US ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. COME FROM GIVES DO WE KNOW. DO WE KNOW THEIR THEIR POPULATIONS ? WHAT IS? IS IT LESS THAN IF THERE'S LESS THAN THE 15? I DON'T KNOW ARE LIKE THOSE ROUND FIGURES IS 20,000, YOU KNOW BETTER THAN WHAT POINT ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT THAT THAT LARGER GROUP WITH US AGAIN? I JUST HAVE WIKIPEDIA UP HERE, WHICH, BY THE WAY, I WILL MENTION MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE TO SORT OUT. INDIAN TOWN. IT'S NOT ON WIKIPEDIA'S LISTENING, DISPELLED HE'S HAD MADE IT ON THERE. BUT EVERYBODY ELSE IS, UM WITH THE BROWNS EDIT. YEAH BUT WE'RE COMING WHEN I DID THE MATH HERE. WITH 15,000. THAT'S ABOUT 66% OF THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE TOO MUCH 60. KILL THE DEAL THAT MIGHT KILL THE DEAL. THAT I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT USUALLY IF YOU CAN GET A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ONBOARD PUSHING. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. BUT I'M NOT WE WE'VE GOT A WE'VE GOT A NARROW ASK IF WE GO WITH THAT 10 YEARS IS JUST LITTLE. THEY'RE NOT GIVING AWAY MUCH. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THE THOUGHT. I MEAN, WE STILL GOT TO ASK THEM FOR SUPPORT IF WE DON'T EVEN BECAUSE I'M IN OTHER CITIES AND ASKED FOR OUR SUPPORT, EVEN IF WE DIDN'T KNOW SOME STUFF DON'T PERTAIN TO US, BUT WE DON'T SUPPORT IT SO AND WE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO DIG DEEP AND RICH. I REALLY THINK AFTER TOMORROW WE'LL HAVE A CLUE. ONCE WEEK. WE HAVE THE LOBBYISTS FROM FLORIDA LEAGUES OF CITIES ARE LOBBYISTS ARE STAFF. UM WHICH I THINK WADE WOULD BE PERFECT TO ALSO BE INCLUDED IN THE CLUB ALREADY PUT IT ON MY CALENDAR, OKAY, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL. YOU KNOW, THE MORE WE HAVE, UH, AH, YOU KNOW, GREAT UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THEY'RE THINKING UP UNTIL HAC BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE THE ONES THAT REPRESENT OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THEY'RE UP IN THE STATE, YOU KNOW? UM THEY DO GREAT JOBS, BUT SOMETIMES THEY FORGET ABOUT THE ONE THAT THEY REPRESENT SO WE CAN. WE DEFINITELY NEED TO PUSH ON THIS , BUT I THINK THAT TOMORROW WE'LL HAVE MORE CLARITY WITH THAT. GOOD DISCUSSION, SO OKAY, SO Y'ALL WILL LET US KNOW THE OUTCOME. DEFINITELY DON'T FORGET X REBECCA ABOUT THEM HOT TOPICS. AND SO MADAM MAYOR. OUR PLAN IS TO BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD THIS EVENING IS TO CRAFT THE LETTER. FOR YOUR SIGNATURE. JUST SHAKING HEADS. UM OKAY. OKAY. RIGHT AND ALSO THAT REFERENDUM ABOUT. THAT AVALON TAX GOING ON TO BE VOTED FOR IT. THAT'S THE ISSUE TO NOW . THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING A BILL THAT'S GOING THROUGH AS WELL. I'M JUST SAYING IT'S SURE YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM. I GOT TO MAKE UP FOR IT WHERE THE SLACK IS. I PROBABLY RECOMMEND FOR THIS FOR THIS PARTICULAR LETTER WILL BE A VERY TARGETED ASKED FOR THAT ONE.OKAY? YEAH. FOR LETTER BECAUSE THIS ALL TIME SENSITIVE THAT BILL'S GOING TO THE FLOOR AND ALL THIS AND WENT RIGHT THE ISSUE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER ONES. I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY STUFF THAT. CAN BE WORKED ON. BUT RIGHT FOR NOW ANE ADVICE WAS JUST THIS WRITE LETTERS FOR WHAT WE AGREE WITH THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING WITH AND WHAT WE OPPOSE. SO AFTER WE TAKE CARE OF THIS, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO WORK ON AND WORK WITH THE LOBBYISTS. OKAY? THANK YOU CONVERSATION. OKAY, SO NOW COUNCILMAN STONE IN THE COMMENTS. I MEAN, IT'S COMMENTS BY THE COUNCIL. I MEAN, I JUST WAS PRETTY MUCH IN THE MEETING AT THIS POINT. I JUST THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. I JUST HAD TO GET THAT HOT TOPIC OFF SINCE WE HAD A ZOOM ABOUT IT TODAY, AND THEY'RE GOING TO ANY COUNT, UM SUSAN GIBSON. YEAH WELCOME TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT. UM GLAD YOU'RE
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JOINED US AND LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATION, CONVERSATION AND THE ISSUES. MAKE SURE YOU STAY WARM THIS WEEKEND, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU COME OUT SATURDAY TO HELP WITH THE COMMUNITY CLEANUP.WHERE SOME WARM GLOVES AND A AND A WARM SCARF AND THANK GOODNESS THAT IT'S A LITTLE CHILLY, SO YOU WON'T BE SWEATING. YOU KNOW, CAN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THE HEAT. SO, UM THAT'S RIGHT. YOU'RE WORKING. YOU WON'T BE TOLD. YOU'RE RIGHT. SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY BEING HERE.
COUNCILWOMAN, AND THEN HERNANDEZ. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE THAT'S TUNING IN, AS YOU CAN TELL. YOU KNOW, STATE LEGISLATOR IS FOLK FULLY AND KICK AND TALLAHASSEE SO PLEASE STAY TUNED. AH! THE BILL FOR SMOKING, UM REGULATING AND PARKS PASSED A LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE. THAT'S ONE OF THE ONES THAT I'VE BEEN REALLY WATCHING. SO THERE'S A LOT OF BILLS OUT THERE THAT WE NEED TO WATCH UTILITY BILLS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF BILLS THAT WILL HURT THE, UM THE VILLAGE IN UTILITY AND GOVERNMENT, UM. YOU CAN NAME IT, SO PLEASE, IF YOU CAN MAKE A PHONE CALL AND JUST REMIND THE LEGISLATORS ARE LOCAL LEGISLATORS THAT YOU KNOW THEY NEEDED TO THINK ABOUT INDIAN TOWN. BECAUSE WE'RE SO BRAND NEW STILL, UM AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY HELP WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW. UP UNTIL HAC WITH THESE BILLS. THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS. THIS CONVERSATION IS A VERY IMPORTANT ONE, BECAUSE, UM, IT WILL, UM AS IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED DIRECTLY AFFECT US. IF ANYBODY HAS BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE $2 MILLION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE DRAINAGE AND ROADS FOR THE BOOK APART. COMMUNITY HAS STARTED. AND SO, UM, THAT THAT BILL WAS PRODUCED RIGHT HERE AND SO IT DOES AFFECT US. SO PLEASE , PLEASE, PLEASE KEEP AN EYE ON THOSE THINGS. I'M SO GLAD TO HEAR THE ROSE THE ROBUST CONVERSATION. WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER BILL. UM THAT IS UP IN THE LEGISLATURE FOR THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF LINCOLN STREET AS WELL. SO LET US KEEP THOSE IN MIND AND TRACK THOSE AS WE ARE IN THE SESSION, SO THANK YOU, MADAM EAR. YOUR FAMILY MAY ASK, DO WE HAVE ON OUR WEBSITE? OUR LEGISLATORS CONTACT INFORMATION . SO IF PEOPLE ARE A PEOPLE ARE WONDERING WHO THEY NEED TO CONTACT. DO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THEM? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE OUR STATE LEGISLATIVE GUYS OR OUR COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES. BUT WE COULD DO THAT. PUT THE WHOLE HOUSE IN THE WHOLE SENATE. OH NO. AND THEN PLETHORA OF EMAILS NEED TO GO OUT. I KNOW I WAS DOING THEM ALL THIS DAY BEFORE 2 30. AH I CONCUR. WELCOME EVERYONE. AND THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU, PASTOR BOOTH, THE NEW PASTOR IN THE VILLAGE HERE FOR COMING AND GIVE US THAT PRAYER AND I JUST CONCUR WITH THE COUNCIL. AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ALONG TO COMMITTEE REPORTS. 11 HERNANDEZ.
[COMMITTEE REPORTS]
YES WE HAD A TREASURE COAST LEGAL CITIES MEETING YESTERDAY AND IT WAS ALL ABOUT THESE BILLS . ADVOCACY JUST NOT FORGETTING ABOUT ADVOCACY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO REPORT. COUNCIL AND STONE. I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A COMMITTED MEETING, BUT I HAD I GUESS. WELCOME MEETING. WITH THE MPO BOARD. UM ADMINISTRATIVE. AND BASICALLY THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON THAT WE CAN GET INVOLVED WITH. I KNOW THEY HAVE THE AND I BELIEVE, MADAM CLARK, YOU YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS, TOO.HAD UP. COMMITTEE HUH? SO WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE. AND ALSO WHAT I DIDN'T KNOW AS WELL AS THE MPO ACTUALLY HAVE A TRANSPORTATION FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN'T. LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION TO GO TO THEIR DOCTORS OR THINGS LIKE THAT SENIORS FOR SENIORS, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DEFINITELY PUT SOMETHING OUT. I'LL GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. AND THAT'S IT FOR COMMITTEE REPORT FOR ME. COUNCILWOMAN GIVES. WHAT COMMITTEE ARE THEY? THAT IS THEIR FREIGHT FREIGHT. WELL, IT'S INTERESTING. THANK YOU. PRIZE MAYOR. YEAH, ACTUALLY, THE COMMITTEE WAS CREATED LAST YEAR
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. UM AND UM, INDIAN TOWN, THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN SHOULD HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE ON THAT.ON THAT COMMITTEE, SO I THINK IT'S A 20 MEMBER BOARD. UM AND, UH, THOSE FOLKS REPORT TO THE MPO WITH THEIR SUGGESTIONS, AND, UH THEIR ADVICE AS IT RELATES TO FREIGHT, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY ON THAT COMMITTEE CONSIDERING THAT WE HAVE CHANGE TRACKS RIGHT NEXT TO US AND THAT COMES THROUGH, SO I THINK THOSE ARE IMPORTANT, SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO SAY. I HAVE NO COMMITTEES, SO I HAVE NO REPORTS. YOU HAVE NO WELL, I SAID OH, NO COMMITTEES.
UM SO I HAD AN ORIENTATION TO THE MPO. IT WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING. AND I WAS EXCITED.
UH, WHEN SHE'S UH, SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE FREIGHT COMMITTEE. I MEAN, WE STILL DO NEED TO FEEL THAT BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN SEAT THAT'S VACANT. WE NEED TO FEEL THAT WAS SOMEONE . SO, MR PHYLLIS? I DON'T KNOW. THEY DON'T MEAN THEY DON'T MEET THAT OFTEN. I'M JUST SAYING, IF YOU COULD BE SO KIND, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. UH THAT FREIGHT COMMITTEE IT WILL BE. MR BROWN IS NON ELECTED MEMBERS THAT COULD BE ON THAT COMMITTEE. AH AND JUST BROUGHT ME ASKING HER QUESTIONS. TERRY KINDLE KINDLE KINDLE KINDLE TENDER LATER NAME. SHE WAS REPRESENTATIVE, BUT THE VILLAGE DO HAVE THE CHOICE. OF WHO SITS ON THAT BOARD. SO WE NEED SOMEBODY FROM STAFF HERE TO KEEP US INFORMED BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE THE RAILROAD AND ALL THAT HERE, SO THEY GOT A LOT OF GREAT THINGS GOING ON, AND THEY DO HAVE THAT TRANSPORTATION SO YOU CAN GET SOME MORE INFORMATION FOR HER SO WE COULD PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE. FOR THAT, BUT, UM YES, MR BROWN. I'LL BE GETTING WHICH IS THAT WE COULD FEEL THAT S C FOR THE PEDESTRIAN . IF YOU DON'T MIND. IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA? STAFF YES, BECAUSE SHE'S RIGHT HERE. I GOT IT RIGHT HERE. THAT HAS BEEN, BUT THAT HAS BEEN THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET OVER SO PEDESTRIAN COMMITTEE AS PART OF THE MPO. I'M PRETTY SURE YOU CAN FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO COME. BUT WE THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE FILLED IS WHAT SHE TOLD ME. AND AS YOU KNOW, AS I WAS GETTING ORIENTATED AND YOU KNOW, I'M LEARNING MORE ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON. AND THEN SHE SAID, OH, Y'ALL GOT SOMETHING ELSE? THAT WAS ALL. OKAY SO DO YOU MIND? OKAY, MY LOVE. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD WAIT. I DON'T I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ACTUALLY HAVE THE PROCESS. NO NO, NO, NO, NO, WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. I'M JUST ASKING HER IN THE PUBLIC. WE'RE GONNA PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. VICE MAYOR. THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S NOT OFFICIAL OKAY? YES NOT OFFICIALLY. WE DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE WOULD WANT TO, UM, HAVE SOMEBODY TO SERVE ON THOSE COMMITTEES, SO I THINK IT IS KIND OF PREMATURE TO ASK. WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE IN THIS ON THAT SEAT ON THIS COUNCIL TO, UH, WANT TO SERVE THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. SO THAT THERE IS NO UM YOU KNOW, FAVORITISM, OR, YOU KNOW WHATEVER THAT MAY ARISE FROM THE THOUGHT SOMETHING NOBODY KNEW THAT THE SEA WAS AVAILABLE TILL I GOT THERE.
WHICH WE KNEW THAT THE LADY DONE LEFT TOWN. SO WHAT? WE? YEAH, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT SHE HAD RESIGNED. SO YOU KNOW, UM, SO WE WERE THINKING THAT SHE'S STILL SERVING. AND SHE HAS RESIGNED WITHOUT EVEN SHARING SO BUT BUT REGARDLESS OF THAT, I'M SAYING THAT I THINK IT'S PREMATURE TO INVITE SOMEBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE, OKAY. HER NAME IS IN THE HEAD.
AND IF ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY NAMES YOU'RE RIGHT GIVEN TO MR BROWN, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE A DECISION WHEN IT COMES TO THE AGENDA. SO IF ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY NAMES BESIDES MISS BROWN PLEASE THANK GIVEN TO MR BROWN. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. OKAY? COMMENTS BY VILLAGE
[COMMENTS BY VILLAGE MANAGER]
MANAGER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL GOOD EVENING, THE LATEST EDITION OF THE INDIAN TOWN NEWSLETTERS PUBLISHED, UH, PEOPLE SHOULD START RECEIVING THAT IN THEIR MAILBOXES. THE NEXT FEW DAYS AND UPDATING THE FOLLOW UP FROM OUR PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING WITH COMMISSIONER JENKINS WHEN HE CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL, HE WAS TAUGHT HE TALKED ABOUT THE DIGITAL MESSAGE BOARD. HEAT WE HAVE RECEIVED. QUOTE IT'S ABOUT $44,000 ARE SHARE WOULD BE HALF AND SO, UM YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. I BELIEVE I HAVE A WAY TO PAY FOR IT THROUGH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED WERE RECEIVING, ALL OF WHICH WILL COME TO THE FEBRUARY 10TH MEETING AND WE'LL DISCUSS IT AT THAT TIME. UM GO AHEAD, MAYOR. TOTAL COST $44,000 . YES MAN WITH THE COUNTY. YES, MA'AM, OKAY. THE ALSO ANOTHER[00:55:04]
FOLLOW UP. WE HAD THE EMC, A MISS LYONS AND, UM AUTO MURPHY MURPHY OTTO THAT CAME BEFORE THE COUNCIL ABOUT THE SWIMMING POOL AT THE Y M. C. A I'LL BE MEETING WITH THEM ON FEBRUARY 18TH TO GO OVER DETAILS AND REPORT BACK TO THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT THEY ARE IN THEIR FUNDRAISING. UM UM. YOU KNOW THEY'RE IN THEIR FUNDRAISING MODE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THEY WERE WE DID A FUNDRAISER. WE PARTICIPATE IN SOME FUNDRAISING FOR THEM AT THE CHAMBER INSTALLATION DATA. ALSO, UM STAFF WILL BE WORKING WITH MARTIN COUNTY TO HAVE A MEETING REGARDING THE COLD, COLD WEATHER SHELTER. UM I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE IT, BUT I'M SURE IT'S THE THAT INDIAN CIVIC CENTER OR MIGHT BE HERE, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS YET WARFARE WITH THE LAST PLACE I DID PUT IN A CALL SO TWO ON 12 BECAUSE RESIDENTS ARE ASKING WHERE IS THE COLD SHELTER? WHAT YOU GONNA DO WITH THE PEOPLE? SO I AM GOING TO COME OUT TILL TOMORROW? NOT FOR 211. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW SOON YOU'RE GOING TO BE MEETING WITH THE COUNTY AGAIN. WE'RE MEETING WITH THEM TOMORROW WORSHIP CENTER TO THAT WAS OPENED. IT COULD BE OTHER OTHER OTHER PLACES, BUT WE WERE MEETING WITH THEM TOMORROW ON EXACTLY THE TIME AND WE'LL GET THAT OUT. UM ALSO, UM. ALSO THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, SO YOU KNOW , WE NEED TO SCHEDULE TALLAHASSEE VISIT OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW, AND SO, UM, I KNOW THAT COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ WILL BE GOING UP UNLESS SLAVE ACTION DAYS. FEBRUARY SEVEN THROUGH THE NINTH, BUT YOU KNOW WE HAVE THE 14TH, 15TH AND 16TH OR 21ST 22ND 23RD THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET ON YOUR CALENDARS AND GET ARE THESE MEETINGS SCHEDULE SO WE CAN MEET AT STRATEGIC MEETINGS? UP UNTIL A HASSI TALKING DIRECTLY WITH SOME OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE THAT ARE VOTING ON THESE BILLS, ESPECIALLY SENATE BILLS TO 80 AND 6 20. SO THE 14TH IS VALENTINE'S DAY. SOME OF YOU GUYS MIGHT NOT HAVE ANY PLANS. BUT IF YOU IF YOU MY GOD. THE 14TH IS A MONDAY. SO UM , 21ST IS A HOLIDAY PRESIDENT 21ST IS A HOLIDAY. AND IT'S NOT A HOLIDAY FOR LEGISLATOR FOR YOU ALL RIGHT? NO I'M JUST ASKING.OH NO. THAT I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A TRAVEL DAY BECAUSE THEY NORMALLY TRAVEL BACK TO TALLAHASSEE ON MONDAYS SO WE WOULD LEAVE ON THEM ON MONDAY. NO, I'M GOOD IF WE WOULD LEAVE ON A MONDAY, BUT THEN TUESDAY WOULD BE THE APPOINTMENTS AND THERE WOULD BE OUT OF THERE THAT WEDNESDAY MORNING, OKAY? I'M OPEN TO ME. THAT'S KIND OF THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M THINKING, EITHER. THE 14 15 AND 16 30 21ST 22ND 23RD, AND WE ALL NEED TO GO UP THERE AS A GROUP UNIFIED AND LOADED WITH INFORMATION. TO TRY TO GET A CAR ABOUT ON SOME OF THIS LEGISLATION. SO WE'RE GONNA BE GOING TO LAST WEEKEND. FEBRUARY. WE WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL WHEN WE HAD THE MAJORITY OF YOU. IF YOU RECALL, WE RECEIVED THAT $2 MILLION BECAUSE YOU HAD FOUR OF YOU UP THERE IN PEOPLE'S FACES DURING THAT TIME, SO. SO TODAY WE NEED TO SOLIDIFY A DATE. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. SO COUNCIL WAS THE DATE. 14 THROUGH THE 16TH OR THE 21ST THROUGH THE 23RD. WHAT WAS AROUND THEM, WHETHER THEY BE BEST TO SEE WHEN THOSE BILLS WILL BE UP EXACTLY THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT PHASES AND WHAT? WE'RE TRYING TO GET THERE AS SOON AS WE CAN SO WE CAN GET IN FRONT OF THEM. AND SO THEY'RE THEY'RE MAKING THEIR WAY RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE LIKE THE SOONER THE BETTER SOONER, THE BETTER. SO I'M I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY OF THOSE THINGS. JUST LET ME KNOW. NO, WE HAVE OUR LOBBIES WORKING ON SPECIFIC STUFF. BUT, YOU KNOW YOU GUYS ARE THE ELECTED AND THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED TO HEAR FROM. I WANT THE EMAIL WITH THE DATE, SO YOU WANT TO DO IT NOW? YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD DECIDE NOW. COUNCIL DECIDE WHAT IS IT THAT THEY WANT TO DO? YOU ALL WANT EMAILS OR YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO DO IT NOW WE DO NEED EVERYBODY TO GO. YES, IT GIVES THOMAS UM. I THERE'S NO WAY I POSSIBLY CAN. I AM THE OLD TIME NEITHER TO I AM THE ONLY ONE WORKING. YOU TALK ABOUT SHORTAGES ON PERSONNEL. I AM THE ONLY PERSON I HAVE NO ONE ELSE WORKING WITH ME. YEAH THAT'S UNDERSTOOD. SORRY, I CAN'T.
THERE'S NO WAY. COUNCILMAN STONE. OH, DO I HAVE TO? 14 PROBABLY BETTER. SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON. OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO WAKE UP TO 14. SO WE'LL SET IT UP. THANK YOU AND
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THE LOBBYIST WILL WILL WORK OUT THE ITINERARY WITH THE EXACT COMMITTEE MEMBERS. WE NEED TO TALK TO YOU, SIR. THEY'LL WORK THAT OUT. THE ALSO OUR RESPONSE TO MS NIKE. UM, SHE SPOKE EARLIER. WE DID PURCHASE WHAT WE HAVE NOT PURCHASED YET. THE $175,000 E R P. WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE AN E R P SO THIS WOULD BE NEW FOR THE VILLAGES TO BE A NEW PURCHASE, AND IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED IT WILL BE PAID FOR THE AMERICAN RESCUE FUNDS. AND UM, IN TERMS OF ONGOING MAINTENANCE. IT'S ABOUT $43,000 A YEAR EVERY YEAR. AND IT WOULD IT WOULD PAY FOR, UH TRAINING, MAINTENANCE AND SOFTWARE UPGRADES. SO ALL THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR ANNUAL NOW THIS THIS IS A VERY, UM. VERY GOOD PRODUCT. IT'S ONE OF THE BETTER ONES AND WE WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE PURCHASE IT OFF OF A COMPETITIVE CONTRACT WITH THROUGH CITY OF GROWTH PLAN. I BELIEVE IT WAS THE. SO ALSO THE MAINTENANCE OLD BE THERE WILL BE AN OFFSET, SHE RECALLED. THE COUNCIL PASSED THE TECHNOLOGY FEED WHEN WE ADOPTED OUR FEES. AH, TWO YEARS AGO. AND SO WHAT? THE TECHNOLOGY FEE DOES IT? IT TAKES A PERCENTAGE 1% OF ALL BUILDING PERMITS THAT ARE ISSUED. IT GOES INTO ITS SEPARATE FUND AND SO THAT MONEY WILL BE USED TO PAY. PARTLY OF PART OF THE TECHNOLOGY FEES, SO WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG NUMBER, SO I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GOOD PURCHASE, AND HOPEFULLY I'VE EXPLAINED IT ENOUGH WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK. OKAY OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, UM NO. UM IF THERE'S ANYTHING FROM THE COUNCIL AWAY, LIKE TO, AND WAIT, YOU KNOW WE CAN. WELL, YOU CAN GO AHEAD YOU HAD. DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING FOR ME? OKAY WAIT. GOING AWAY. THANK YOU, UM I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THIS ACTUALLY TIES INTO THE CONVERSATION WE WERE HAVING BEFORE ABOUT THOSE SENATE BILLS UP THERE WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT, UH, PROMPTED PARTIALLY BY THESE BILLS COMING . MY OFFICE IS JUMPING INTO A BIG NEW PROJECT. UM. AND THAT IS IT'S ONE WE'VE WE'VE DISCUSSED WAY LONG TIME AGO, A NUMBER OF TIMES. THAT IS GOING THROUGH USING THE MARTIN COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES AS A BASE AND TRYING TO SET YOU ALL UP A SET OF VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN CODE OF ORDINANCES, OKAY? UM THE GENERAL PLAN AS A FIRST PHASE. IS TO TAKE THE MARTIN COUNTY CODE AND GO THROUGH AND RIP OUT EVERYTHING THAT IS COUNTY SPECIFIC COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES ARE DIFFERENT. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT POWERS UNDER FLORIDA LAW AND SO AND SO WHEN WE'RE USING THE MARTIN COUNTY CODE IS THE TRANSITIONAL CODE. A LOT OF IT IS NON SECRETARY DOESN'T APPLY. DOESN'T ANYTHING SO FIRST GOING THROUGH AND BASICALLY RIPPING ALL THAT OUT? STEP TWO SIMPLY GOING THROUGH AND WORKING THROUGH IT AND CHANGING IT FROM MARTIN COUNTY. MARTIN COUNTY BORDER COMMISSIONER. BORDER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN AND SO ON. WITH THAT PRODUCT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE EFFECTIVELY WHAT THE LAW IS RIGHT NOW WHAT THE CODE OF ORDINANCES IS RIGHT NOW, AS WE DO IT WITHIN THE VILLAGE. UM BUT THEN IT WOULD BE THE VILLAGES OUT. THE THIRD STEP WOULD BE WHERE, UM WHERE THERE WOULD BE A LOT MORE. WORKING THROUGH INPUT THERE, MAYBE WHOLE SECTIONS THAT WE LOOK AT AND SAY. WE DON'T REALLY WANT THAT. WE WANNA DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WAY, OKAY. BUT THAT AT LEAST WOULD FORM AS A BASE TO WORK WITH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL HAVE USED THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS. UM AGAIN. THIS IS PROMPTED IN PART BY THERE'S ALWAYS A FAIR POSSIBILITY THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET THIS EXEMPTION AND AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE BILLS. ITS EFFECTIVE DATE IS OCTOBER 1ST. SO I DON'T WANT I COULDN'T EVEN CONCEIVE OF DOING AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT FOR THE ADOPTION OF AN ENTIRE CODE OF ORDINANCES. UM SO AT THE VERY LEAST, THE HOPE WAS TO GET THAT ALL IN PLACE SO THAT THAT STEP IS NOT GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO ANY OF THAT STUFF, AND THEN THEREAFTER, IF WE GO INTO A PARTICULAR CHAPTER AND SAY, ALL RIGHT WE'RE GOING TO REDO THIS CHAPTER GOING TO DO IT A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WAY. WE'D HAVE TO DO IT ON THAT. BUT WE'RE NOT DOING IT ON THE WHOLE KIT AND CABOODLE. SO MY OFFICE IS ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS IN MY OFFICE IS GOING TO BE WORKING WITH ME AND DIVING IN DEEP TO PUT TOGETHER THAT PROBLEM. AND THEN WE'LL BE WORKING FROM THERE AND I'LL KEEP YOU ALL UPDATED ON THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU. OKAY CAN I GET APPROVAL FOR THE AGENDA,[APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]
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PLEASE? SO I MOVED SECOND BROKE OFF, PLEASE, DARREN. COMES ALMOST OWN. YES REMEMBER THOMAS? THAT SOME MEMBER HERNANDEZ YES. PLACEMENT DOWN. I. NINE O'CLOCK , YES, CONSENT AGENDA. CAN I GET[CONSENT AGENDA]
A MOTION? SOME OF SECOND. COUNCIL MEMBER STONE YES. THAT'S REMEMBER THOMAS. THAT'S REMEMBER HERNANDEZ. YES? VICE MAYOR, DARLING. AND MAYOR CLARKE. YES. REGULAR AGENDA. MR BROWN ITEM[4.
Authorization for the Village Manager to Enter Into a Short-Term Land Lease with Hildebrand Amusement Rides for Use of the Vacant 5.1 Acre Property Along Warfield Boulevard.
]NUMBER FOUR. YES ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I REMEMBER FORCE REQUEST FROM HILDEBRAND. AMUSEMENT RIDES AS YOU RECALL. WE WE'VE DONE BUSINESS WITH THEM BEFORE WE'VE LEASED THE 5.1 ACRE TRACK WE RECENTLY PURCHASED FROM RYAN'S ESTATE, SO THEY'RE ASKING TO HAVE A PLACEHOLDER IF YOU WILL. SO WHENEVER THERE WHENEVER THEY HAVE A CANCELATION IN ANOTHER JURISDICTION, THEY CAN BRING THE CARNIVAL HERE. RIGHT NOW, THE WAY OUR PROCESS WORKS IT IT, UM WE BRING THE LEAST AGREEMENT TO THE COUNCIL COUNCIL APPROVES THAT ARE NOT PROVES IT AND SO WHAT? WHAT? THIS WHAT? THIS AUTHORIZATION WOULD DO IT WOULD ALLOW ME TO SIGN AT LEAST AGREEMENT. IN THE EVENT THAT THEY HAVE A LAST MINUTE CANCELATION. THEY WANT TO DO AN EVENT HERE IN ANY TOWN, SO WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL WOULD BE THE SAME TERMS. SAME NUMBER DAYS, SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY. THERE WOULD BE NO CHANGE ESSENTIALLY OTHER THAN IF, IF IT'S LAST MINUTE, I COULD APPROVE IT. CAN I GET A MOTION? SUMMER. SECONDED NOW OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. VICE MAYOR. YEAH THIS IS THE SAME COMPANY THAT WE DEALT WITH LAST YEAR THAT HAD ISSUES. UM WITH THE SAFETY OF THE OF THE RIDE AND ALSO WITH THEIR POLITICAL SIGNS. THIS THIS COMPANY ALSO, UM IN DECEMBER, WANTED TO COME TO INDIAN TOWN. CALLED US BACK AND TOLD US THAT THEY WERE NOT INTERESTED BECAUSE THEY FOUND SOME SOME ANOTHER LOCATION DOWN SOUTH THAT FELL THROUGH AND THEN THEY WANTED TO COME BACK. SO TO ME, IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE, UM I FOR ME, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO, UM ONCE US TO BE PRIORITY, NOT JUST A SECOND, UM. AH OR YEAH, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE THE PRIORITY. NOT JUST A SECOND THOUGHT BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE FELL THROUGH SO UM, OF COURSE, IS THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.BUT I JUST THINK THAT I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, UM I THINK THAT AGAIN, THIS COMMUNITY SHOULD BE NUMBER ONE. IF THEY WANT TO COME AND DO THESE THINGS INSTEAD OF HAVING US AS A BACKUP PLAN, SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS. AND THE OTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION COUNCILORS DOWN AND THEN I'M SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN. YES FURTHER STAFF QUESTION I'M LOOKING AT THERE. CERTIFICATE LIABILITY INSURANCE DOES THAT ALL RIGHT. IS THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE WE DON'T NEED WORKERS COMP ON THERE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE REQUIRE INSURANCE AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN CHANGE THE LIABILITY. WAIT, WHAT YOU THINK? YEAH. I THINK PREVIOUSLY WE'VE JUST REQUIRED LIABILITY INSURANCE. UM, WHENEVER WE ARE CONTRACTING WITH SOMEBODY FOR THEM TO DO A SERVICE FOR THE VILLAGE, RIGHT? UM THEN WE ABSOLUTELY REQUIRE WORKERS, COMP INSURANCE OR PROOF OF AN EXEMPTION. WHAT HAVE YOU THIS IS LEASING THE LAND OF THEM FOR THEM TO DO WITH THINGS SO THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE COMMON TO REQUIRE WORKERS COMPENSATION. WE CERTAINLY COULD. THAT'S JUST NOT TYPICAL, OKAY? AND THE ADDITIONALLY TO THAT BECAUSE I HAVE EXPERIENCED WITH CARNIVALS.
AND THEY USUALLY WHAT? WHAT'S THE TIME LIMIT THAT THEY ARE HERE? LIKE TWO WEEKS. I THINK IT'S LIKE 10 DAYS 10, WHICH IS TWO WEEKENDS UNTIL WEEKENDS. TRUST ME, $5000 GIVING TO THE IT'S PENNIES TO THEM. I'VE RUN. THE LATTER ARE CARNIVAL FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS BECAUSE I WORKED FOR THE CHURCH. AND $5000 IS NOT IS NOT ENOUGH. WELL, THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY MAKE REVENUE OUT OUT THERE AND NO, THAT'S THAT'S ACTUALLY REVENUE THAT WE CAN
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HELP WITH ANYTHING HERE IN THE VILLAGE. UM SO I THINK THAT $5000 AS PENNIES, BUT THAT'S ONLY MY TAKE ON THAT. FRANKLIN STONE, OKAY TO FOLLOW UP WHEN ON COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO. GET I DON'T THINK THEY NEED TO HAVE THE WORKERS COMP ARE AT LEAST SUPPLIED TO US. HOWEVER, I THINK THE AUTOMOBILE POLICY MIGHT BE A GOOD ONE. FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE BECAUSE THEY ARE DRIVING ON THAT PROPERTY BACK AND FORTH. IF IT'S A TAG CAR, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE INSURANCE. WELL, YES, BUT I MEAN , BECAUSE EVEN WHEN I WORK ON, LET'S SAY A CONDO. I GOTTA HAVE AT LEAST A MILLION DOLLAR COVERAGE. FOR AUTOMOBILE? YES THIS CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE. THE ACCORD CERTIFICATE HERE. UM IF. IT'S LOOKING LIKE IT'S GOT COMMERCIAL GENERAL LIABILITY OF 1,000,002 MILLION AND THEN AUTO LIABILITY. ONE MILLION. OKAY ON HERE, SO COUNCIL AND THEN EXCESS OF ONE MILLION, WHICH THAT'S GOOD. SO I WASN'T DONE YET.SORRY I'M SORRY. AND ANOTHER THING, MR BROWN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE THEY DO HAVE A SET DATE FOR INDIAN TOWN . BUT THEY WOULD JUST USE THIS AS A BACKUP IF SOMEBODY ELSE'S CANCEL. THEY DO HAVE A SET DATE. IT'S IN DECEMBER. AND UM, IT'S IN DECEMBER. OBVIOUSLY I THINK A COUPLE OF NOTES WHAT DATE THAT IS, UM BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE WANTING TO USE THIS AS A BACKUP AS WELL. AND I'M CERTAIN THAT THEY WILL BE ASKING FOR DECEMBER TODAY, BUT RIGHT NOW THEY JUST WANT TO USE IT FOR A BACKUP. THANK YOU THE LAST TWO YEARS IT'S BEEN DECEMBER. LIKE THE SECOND WEEK, SECOND WEEKEND. IT IS SIMPLE AFTER THE EARLY TO GO TO COUNCIL ON THE THANK YOU. SO JUST TO MAKE SURE SO. ANYTHING UP AND ABOVE AND BEYOND, DECEMBER WOULD BE A PLUS. WE DEFINITELY HAVE THEM FOR THE ONE. BUT IF ANYTHING COMES UP, THEN IT WOULD BE AUTHORIZED YOU AND I APPRECIATE VICE MAYORS. DOWLING'S CONCERN. BUT I BELIEVE THAT THOSE ISSUES THAT WE WERE THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD. WAS ADDRESSED BY THE GENTLEMAN. HE HAPPENED TO BE HERE AT THAT MEETING AND ADDRESSED THE ISSUES WITH, UM LOOSE BOLTS OR WHATEVER THAT THAT WAS. AND THE SIGNAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND HE ADDRESSED THOSE TO MY SATISFACTION. SO, UM THANK YOU.
UH, CAN I GET A MOTION? WE ARE IN HIM DID ALRIGHT, SO CALLED DARREN COUNCIL MEMBER STONE? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER, THOMAS YES. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. YEAH. VICE MAYOR, DARLING. MR CLARK.
YES. MR. BROWN HAD A NUMBER FIVE. I MEAN, WAIT, SUSAN. SOMEBODY VERY WELL. HELLO. YES
[5.
2022 Village Manager Evaluations
]SUSAN. I HAVEN'T EVEN DUG THROUGH THE PARTICULARS OF THE PROBLEM WHEN YOU GUYS HEAR ME, OKAY? DOESN'T SOUND LIKE RIGHT. IT'S AWFUL FOR A LITTLE LOW. JUST MY MASK. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FOR THE VILLAGE MANAGER'S CONTRACT. THE VILLAGE COUNCIL EVALUATES THE MANAGER EVERY JANUARY. ENCLOSED IN THE BACKUP ARE THE EVALUATIONS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS. ADDITIONALLY THE CONTRACT STATES THAT CONSIDERATION SHOULD ALSO BE GIVEN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO INCREASED COMPENSATION BASED ON MERIT. AT THE JANUARY 28TH 2000 AND 21 MEETING, THEN COUNCIL MEMBER DOWLING REQUESTED THAT SALARY COMPARISON INFORMATION.BE CONSULTED IN FUTURE YEARS. THAT IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP FOR THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. I DO WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE NOTES, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE AGENDA MEMO. THE CURRENT MANAGERS. SALARY IS LISTED AS 145,340. HOWEVER ON JANUARY 25TH MR BROWN ISSUED A MEMORANDUM SAYING THAT ACCORDING TO HIS EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT, HE WOULD BE ELECTING TO TAKE THE 3% COLA.
THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE REMAINDER OF THE OTHER EMPLOYEES. THAT WOULD BRING HIS CURRENT SALARY TO 149,000. $704.66. ALSO COUNCIL MEMBER STONE REVISED HIS EVALUATION. I PROVIDED EACH COUNCIL MEMBER A COPY OF THAT REVISED EVALUATION. FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION. SO AT THIS POINT,
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THIS ITEM IS OPEN TO THE COUNCIL TO DISCUSS ANY FURTHER SALARY OR BENEFIT INCREASES. ANY EVALUATIONS GIVEN. OKAY, COUNCILWOMAN GIVES AND THE DISCUSSION. IT SEEMS TO BE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. COUNCILMAN STONE. SENSE OF A PRETTY FORWARD TO ME, TOO.COUNCIL UNDER HER NAME IS. WHAT CAN YOU SAY? MR BROWN AS VILLAGE MANAGER? HAS DONE AH! A GREAT JOB. AND LET ME JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC NOW THAT AN EVALUATION IS NOT THE TIME WHERE WE WAIT. TO FIRE HIM. YOU KNOW YOUR EVALUATION LIKE A TEACHER LIKE GETTING SUPERIOR HAS AN EVALUATION EVERY YEAR, AND USUALLY THE THOSE EVALUATIONS ARE DONE FOR MERIT BASIS TO SEE IF THEY SHOULD GET AN INCREASE SHOULD THEY STAY THE SAME? IT'S YOU KNOW. BEING ON THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. I'VE HEARD A LOT, YOU KNOW? WELL, THIS IS THE TIME THAT THE COUNCIL HAS TO FIRE HIM . IT'S NOT IN THE VALUATIONS AND EVALUATION. IT'S TO SEE YOU CAN, UM WHERE ARE YOU WHAT HE HAS DONE IN THE PAST YEAR AND SEE IF HE DESERVES AMERICA INCREASE IF I NEED IF I AM UPSET ABOUT ANYTHING OR ANYTHING I GO TO HIM DURING OUR PERSONAL ONE ON ONE MEETINGS, AND I TOLD HIM THAT'S WHERE YOU KNOW I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS WHAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE, UM IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, THEY HAVE THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE MANAGER. I TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS TO HIM. THIS IS WHAT THE RESIDENTS FEEL. SO IT'S NOT DONE. DURING THE EVALUATION EVALUATION. IT'S JUST MORE BASICALLY. YOU'VE BEEN HERE ALL YEAR AND YOU KNOW DO YOU DESERVE AN INCREASE? THANK YOU. UM I'LL BE VERY, VERY BRIEF. YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND THE ENCOURAGEMENT THAT THAT YOU HAVE SHARED, UM TO PUSH THIS VILLAGE FORWARD. SO UM, UM, WE'RE READY TO VOTE. TOTALLY GET EMOTION FOR THE. 30% COLA THAT SUSAN READ ABOUT. OH, I GOT ONE QUESTION DID YOU UP TO TAKE THE INSURANCE THROUGH US, OR YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP WELL, I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING YET, BUT WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS, UM BECAUSE OPEN ENROLLMENT I CAN'T I CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL, LIKE OCTOBER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO CORRECT? YEAH. JUST TO CLARIFY THE 3% IS ALREADY BEING TAKEN. THAT'S NOT WHAT'S ON THE FLOOR FOR CONSIDERATION. QUESTION DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE OCTOBER 1ST DATE? THAT IS IN HIS EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT. MM HMM. OH THAT IS A START. OCTOBER 1ST. OUR HEALTH INSURANCE STARTS ON OCTOBER 1ST OF EVERY YEAR. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A QUALIFYING EVENT IN ORDER TO GET INSURANCE AT ANY OTHER TIME OF THE YEAR. THIS IS NOT CONSIDERED A QUALIFYING EVENTS SO HE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER. 1ST RIGHT, SO, YES. SO MY QUESTION IS, UM AH, IT WOULD KICK IN OCTOBER. THE FIRST. YES JANET HOULT. AND THEN WE GO AHEAD, JANET. WE DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE THAT. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE GIVING HIM A $500 STIPEND AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW IT'S THAT IN STONE SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T SAY OH, WELL, HE'S TAKING THE STATEMENT. HE'S TAKING THEM HEALTH INSURANCE, TOO. SO WE WANT TO MAKE THINGS CLEAR. LIKE YOU KNOW, TRANSPARENCY IS KEY HERE, SO I THINK THAT IF WE CAN PROBABLY INCLUDE THAT IN THE MOTION SO THAT ONCE OCTOBER HEADS WE ALREADY KNOW HE WON'T RECEIVE THAT STATEMENT, AND HE'LL GET THE INSURANCE THAT EVERYONE GETS. UM BEING AN EMPLOYEE AND ANY UM, COMPANY. PLATE. TO THAT TWO THINGS THERE . THERE'S CERTAINLY NO PROBLEM WITH ADDITIONAL CLARITY, SO CERTAINLY THAT COULD BE STATED THERE. JUST SO YOU KNOW, WITH REGARD TO THOSE MATTERS THAT REFERENCE THERE THAT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE 3% COLA AND UM, AND THE SWITCHING OVER TO THE HEALTH CARE AND SO ON.
THOSE ARE IN IMPLEMENTATION OF A PROVISION IN HOWARD'S CONTRACT, SO THEY ARE UM THEY'RE HAPPENING
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WITHOUT WITHOUT ANY NECESSARY ACTION FROM THE COUNCIL, BUT CERTAINLY THE COUNCIL IN THEIR MOTION ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT'S HAPPENING, SO EVERYBODY IS ON THE RECORD BELIEVE THAT MEMO THAT HOWARD PUT OUT INDICATED IN WRITING THAT THAT WHEN THE SWITCH OVER HAPPENS THAT $500 STIPEND WILL STOP AND THAT THAT ISN'T APPROPRIATE IMPLEMENTATION OF HIS CONTRACT. WE ALL IN CONSENSUS AND AGREEMENT. GREAT THAT WE MIGHT NEED A BOAT. NO. CONSENSUS EVERYBODY AGREED. YOU WANT REAL CALLED SUSAN OR NOT? I'M OUT OF WEIGHT WELL, NO WAY TO CLARIFY. THE. THE MEMO THAT WAS SENT BECAUSE OF HIS CONTRACT . THOSE ARE AUTOMATIC. WE DON'T NEED TO AGREE WITH THEM BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY AGREED TO THEM WHEN WE GAVE HIM HIS CONTRACT. WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON IT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEING IMPLEMENT IT, SO IT'S KIND OF A DONE DEAL AND ONE MAY HELP WITH REGARD TO THAT, IF AGAIN JUST SO WE DON'T CONFUSE THE RECORD. WITH OURS MEMO AND IT COULD BE PUT IN THE MINUTES WHERE YOU KNOW IT WAS DISCUSSED AND CONFIRMED THAT THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, SO THAT'S PROBABLY ALL IT WILL BE NECESSARY WITH RESPECT TO THAT.EVERYBODY AGREE. OKAY? NEXT ITEM. MERITED. SORRY. ONE OTHER ITEM THAT THE COUNCIL HAS BEFORE IT FOR CONSIDERATION IS THE CONSIDERATION OF ANY MERIT INCREASE IN ADDITION TO THAT, 3% COLA THAT'S WHAT I WAS ABOUT. AND ANYBODY OPEN. MR VILLAGE ATTORNEY. SOME GUIDANCE OVER HERE IN REGARDS OF WHAT IS GENERALLY DONE IN OTHER CITIES. IS IT LIKE A FLAT STIPEND AS THEIR PERCENTAGE. WHAT DO YOU SEE IN YOUR CITIES REGULARLY THAT YOU KNOW YOUR COUNCIL DO? UM IN REGARDS OF MERIT, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU KNOW TEACHERS GET ALL THAT ALL THE TIME. UM SO I KNOW IT'S EXISTS, BUT IT'S JUST I'M NOT AND THIS FIELD I'VE I DON'T KNOW. AND, UM. I'LL GIVE YOU MY THOUGHTS ON IT JUST AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S IN A IN A GOOD PLACE, AND I THINK IT'S MORE RELEVANT NOW. WITH THE INFLATION WE'RE SEEING, UM, UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN WHAT WE CALL IN EMPLOYMENT STUFF A COLA COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT. VERSUS SOME SORT OFO MERIT OR TO STAY COMPETITIVE. OKAY SO YOU HAVE THAT COLA PIECE THAT BASICALLY ADDRESS CHANGES IN THE COST OF LIVING. UM WHAT WAS PUT IN TO THE CONTRACT WAS THAT YOU WOULD AT THIS TIME.
CONSIDER SALARY BENEFIT INCREASES AS YOU ALL DEEM APPROPRIATE TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKET. AND THEN ALSO CONSIDERATION BASED ON MERIT, OKAY? UM. SO YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU INFORMATION THAT AS I UNDERSTAND IT FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS. IT'S BEEN UPDATED AT LEAST AS OF DECEMBER. 2021 THAT GIVES YOU SOME INFORMATION ABOUT DIFFERENT ANNUAL SALARIES FOR, UM. CITY MANAGERS AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. I CAN TELL YOU ANOTHER CITIES. IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE. UM YOU TEND TO SEE MORE. INCREASES IN THE BEGINNING NUMBER OF YEARS. THIS IS JUST GENERAL EXPERIENCE IN THE BEGINNING NUMBER OF YEARS WITH A CITY MANAGER AND MY OBSERVATION THEN WHEN YOU GET OUT PAST 10 YEARS AND SO ON, UM I TENDED TO SEE LESS OF LESS OF IT. IT'S KIND OF GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE FROM A MERIT STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, WE THINK YOU'RE AWESOME. WE CAN'T KEEP THROWING MORE AND MORE MORE MONEY AT YOU.
AFTER MANY, MANY YEARS, AND THOSE ADJUSTMENTS TEND TO MORE BE EITHER COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS, OR, UM, ADJUSTMENTS BECAUSE TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE. SO THAT'S THE TREND. I TEND TO SAY. OCEAN POINT RACE. MAYOR MATT SPEAKING. YES OKAY, SO, UM , I'VE HAD I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, AND THAT'S WHY I WROTE THE MEMORANDUM TO YOU. THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD LIKE IS THE COUNCIL SUPPORT ME IN THE LEADERSHIP PROGRAM THAT I WAS ACCEPTED TO HARVARD AND THAT'S IT. I WILL. IF I GET A SCHOLARSHIP FROM THE, UH THE I C M A OR LIKE HE'S MY EXISTING
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BENEFITS TO PAY FOR IT. THAT'S HOW I WOULD DO IT. SO THAT'S ALL. I'M ASKING FOR. CAN I GET A MOTION? SO MOVE? HOLD ON. GIVE THOMAS WHAT IS THE COST OF THAT PROGRAM? IT'S $13,000. JANET HERMAN, COUNCILWOMAN. VICE MAYOR DOLLAR BUT YEAH, BUT. BUT THE COSTS UM HE'S GOING TO INCUR THE COST HIMSELF. RIGHT SO, YEAH. SO WHAT I WOULD DO IS NO ISSUE. OKAY YEAH, NO ISSUE. UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. UM FOR THAT, UM. TO SUPPORT HIM FOR THAT THREE WEEK LEADERSHIP PROGRAM. OKAY AND MR BROWN SO WE COULD HAVE TRANSPARENCY. PLEASE EXPLAIN SOME SCHOLARSHIPS OR WHATEVER YOU'RE SEEKING AND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. SO WHAT COULD BE CLEAR? RIGHT SO WHAT I WOULD DO IS APPLY FOR SCHOLARSHIPS THROUGH THE INTERNATIONAL CITY MANAGER ASSOCIATION. I WOULD USE MY EXISTING VIA BENEFITS IF THEY ALLOW ME TO OR I WOULD USE MY PRIVATE FUNDS TO DO THAT AS WELL. AND ATTEND A THREE WEEK COURSE. AND UM THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ASK THE COUNSELOR DO OH, AND I'M SORRY, AND I WOULD FOREGO ANY OTHER TRAINING. LIKE THROUGH ICE AND ME WHEN I GO TO THE ANNUAL TRIP OR THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION, I WOULDN'T GO TO THAT IN ORDER TO, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT DUDE. TWO OR THREE THINGS, JUST THIS THING SO YOU WOULD FOREGO THOSE OTHER TRAININGS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME? YES. LIKE LIKE THE NEXT YEAR, OKAY, UM AND THAT WOULD OFFSET IT. WHAT WHAT IS THAT COMPARISON ? I MEAN, DOES IT EVEN NOW IT DOESN'T EVEN OUT, BUT IT'S MAYBE HALF PROBABLY HAVE. PROBABLY HALF OF THAT. OKAY NOW THIS THIS PROGRAM LEADERSHIP PROGRAM. HOW MANY WEEKS IS IT? IT'S THREE WEEKS. THREE WEEKS. YES, MA'AM. IS THAT ONLINE OR IS IT IN ATTENDANCE? I BELIEVE IT MAY BE VIRTUAL. UH BECAUSE OF COVID, BUT I THINK THEY MAY HAVE RESUMED BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE WINDOW IS THINK JULY THIS YOU LIKE COMING UP. I THINK LAST YEAR IT WAS VIRTUAL. SO EVEN TAKE THAT FURTHER. SO IF OFFSET IT FOR GOING THAT AND THEN WITH THE OTHER AVAILABILITY OF SCHOLARSHIPS OR THE OTHER. IT WOULD EVEN BRING IT DOWN FURTHER . THAT'S CORRECT, OK, AND WE WON'T KNOW THAT FIGURE UNTIL UNTIL JULY, RIGHT? I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT THE FEE IS FOR THE COURSE. BUT IN TERMS OF BEING NOTIFIED ABOUT IF I GOT THE SCHOLARSHIP OR NOT. UM I WON'T KNOW THAT FOR ANOTHER MONTH IN FEBRUARY OR SO, SO, BUT I WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING AND I'LL COME BACK TO YOU GUYS ONCE. I KNOW. YOU KNOW IF I GOT AWARDED THE CONTRACT AWARDED THIS SCHOLARSHIP OR NOT, OR THE VA'S SAID, HEY, THEY'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT AND THAT TYPE OF THINGS. COUNCILMAN STONE. YES. AH! I THINK MAYBE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF MISUNDERSTANDING. HE'S NOT ASKING FOR US TO PAY FOR THE PROGRAM OR THE COURSE CORRECT.IT'S BASICALLY JUST THE TIME OFF CORRECT. AH SO THAT MEANS THAT I'LL SECOND THAT WELL, JUST WITH CLARITY IN THE MEMO, I DID SAY THAT I WOULD FOREGO OUR TRAINING. SO LIKE IF I GOT A SCHOLARSHIP AND IT WAS $6000 AND THERE WAS ANOTHER $7000 THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE. I WOULD NOT.
UM I WOULD NOT GO TO MY I SEE MAY STUFF FOR THE EPA STUFF. I WOULD NOT GO TO ANY OF THAT TRAINING TO OFFSET THAT DIFFERENCE. AND IF I NEED TO USE MY OWN MONEY THAT, UH, PAY FOR THE DIFFERENCE, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO. THAT WOULD BE FOR A YEAR LIKE YOU OFFSET IT SO LIKE , LET'S JUST SAY, 2022 YOU TAKE THE PROGRAM THIS YEAR, SO YOU WILL BE OFFSETTING ANY LIKE I SEE EM A ANYTHING DURING THIS WHOLE YEAR. THAT'S CORRECT, OK? WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, TRAINING AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND. UM TRAINING IS ESSENTIAL, ESPECIALLY IN THIS BUSINESS BECAUSE GOVERNMENT INVOLVES THERE'S SO MUCH LEGISLATION SO MUCH OF ALL EVOLVING DOORS THAT YOU KNOW YOU GOT TO KEEP UP TO SPEED TECHNOLOGY. UM PROGRAMS. IT'S CRAZY, SO THEY HAVE TO.
THEY HAVE TO CATCH UP TO THAT. SO TRAINING IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO. UM, THINK THAT, UH IS ESSENTIAL, ESPECIALLY IN THAT POSITION THAT YOU ARE IN SO. COUNCILWOMAN GIVES THOMAS SO
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THAT BEING SAID WELL, WHAT MAKES THIS TRAINING PROGRAM. SO DESIRABLE THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO FORGO THE I C M A AND FOR A YEAR . WHAT? WHAT WHAT IS WHAT? WHAT IS THIS? WHAT IS IT? EXACTLY WELL, THIS THIS THREE WEEKS, THIS THREE WEEK LEADERSHIP PROGRAM. FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE TO BE ACCEPTED AND SO IT'S FAIRLY ACCEPTING, YOU KNOW. A SMALL, FINITE NUMBER OF SEASON CITY MANAGERS. IS IT'S A VERY COMPETITIVE PROCESS. AND SO ONCE YOU GET ACCEPTED, YOU HAVE A WINDOW. THEY REQUIRE THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE. OF YOU, 10 SO YOU CAN'T JUST GOING TO 10. THE COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE YOU TO ATTEND. AND SO IT'S LIKE A THINK TANK OF OTHER CITY MANAGERS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND WHAT THEY DO IS HELP YOU COME BACK AND PREPARE A PLAN OF ACTION FOR YOUR COUNSELING YOUR BOARD SO IT'S NOT SO IT BENEFITS ME, BUT IT BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY MORE THAN ME BECAUSE IT'S A REAL PROJECT. SO HAVE YOU BEEN ACCEPTED YET? YES, OKAY. YEAH, WE ALL IN AGREEMENT. I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND. IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT. YES, MADAM MAYOR. LONDON. I CAN PLEASE. YOU GET FOUR CENTS WORTH TONIGHT INSTEAD OF MY TWO I'VE READ THE MANAGER VALUATIONS AND I DIDN'T FIND THEM SPECIFIC ENOUGH. TO TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK OF THE PAST YEAR'S WORK. THE QUESTIONS WERE TOO GENERIC. THE ANSWERS WERE MORE LIKE GRADING WITH AN ACE OR AN F. I COULD NOT GARNER ENOUGH INFORMATION ON WHICH TO BASE IN A VALUATION FOR A SALARY INCREASE. I PERSONALLY DON'T CARE WHAT THE GUY IN THE NEXT TOWN IS EARNING. EARNINGS IN INDIAN TOWN SHOULD BE BASED ON PERFORMANCE IN INDIAN TOWN. SINCE MY TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT. I THINK I'M ENTITLED TO KNOW WHAT I'M PAYING FOR. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO BACK TO THE DETAILED EVALUATION FORMS USED BEFORE. AND THOSE RECOMMENDED BY THE ORGANIZATION, WHICH CERTIFIES OUR MANAGER AS HAVING THE QUALIFICATIONS NEEDED FOR THE JOB. I BELIEVE THEY KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING FOR AS FAR AS JOB PERFORMANCE GOALS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANYMORE.PUBLIC COMMENT. NO MATTER, MAN. BROKE OFF. COUNCIL MEMBER STONE. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER, THOMAS.
EXACTLY WHAT IS THE MOTION FOR? THAT WE SUPPORT UM BROWN WHEN HE IF HE IS ABLE TO GET THE FINANCIAL ASPECT TOGETHER TO SUPPORT HIM, BECAUSE WE HE'LL NEED THAT LETTER OR YES. I. AND REMEMBER NANDO'S YES. FIRST MINUTE, DARLING. HI. MARY CLARK. YES. WAIT. NUMBER 86. THANK YOU,
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ORDINANCE NO. XX-2022: AN ORDINANCE OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN PERSONNEL REGULATIONS; PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS, SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS, NON-CODIFICATION, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
]MAYOR. AN ORDINANCE OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, FLORIDA , AMENDING THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN PERSONNEL REGULATIONS PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS SEVERAL BUILDINGS, CONFLICTS, NON QUALIFICATION AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MADAM MARY, AS YOU KNOW, THIS PERSON, THIS AMENDMENT TO THE PERSONNEL ORDINANCE IS ABOUT TWO THINGS. ONE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MIRROR THE FAMILY FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE ACT IF MILLIE ACT TO MAKE IT SO OUR EMPLOYEES COULD HAVE PROCEDURES ON HOW TO FOLLOW THAT FEDERAL LAW. AND SO THIS PERSONNEL, THIS CHANGE TO THE PERSONNEL AUDIENCE WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE A PROCEDURE IN PLACE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO FOLLOW. AND SECONDLY, THERE'S AN OUTSIDE EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION OR CONFLICT OF INTEREST FORM THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE EMPLOYEES WHO WANT TO ENGAGE IN OUTSIDE EMPLOYMENT GET APPROVED BY THE VILLAGE BEFORE THEY CAN DO IT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO CONFLICTS. WE BRING PEOPLE IN . OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING UP MUNICIPALITY DEREK GOING TO BE TIMES WHERE WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PERSON DOES OUTSIDE OF OUR EMPLOYMENT BECAUSE WE'RE WE SHOULD BE THEIR PRIMARY EMPLOYER. AND SO I THINK THAT'S IT IS THAT THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE WHAT'S IN THERE, AND I HAD SOMETHING. OKAY SO THAT'S EXPLAINS AND AMERICA COUNCIL[01:35:05]
MEMBERS, UH HOWARD JUST DESCRIBED YOU THE ORDINANCE PRECISELY AS ITS BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW. UM THIS WEEK, UH, FROM DISCUSSION THAT HOWARD AND I HAD HAD, AND SOME FEEDBACK WOULD RECEIVED, UM, ACTUALLY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE. I'D RECOMMEND THAT WE GO AHEAD AND PUT IN AND WE CAN GET IT IN FOR SECOND READING. IT'S ON A DIFFERENT TOPIC, BUT RELATING TO THE PERSONNEL REGULATIONS. SO AS YOU ALL RECALL. MONTH OR TWO AGO . YOU ALL MADE AN AMENDMENT TO THESE PERSONNEL REGULATIONS PROVIDING CITY MANAGER WITH AUTHORITY TO GRANT AH, CERTAIN BENEFITS IN ORDER AS A RECRUITMENT MEASURE, WHEREAS DEEMED NECESSARY. IN. LOOKING AT THAT PROVISION AND THEN, UH, READING IT, ALONG WITH WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY THE IMPLEMENTATION OF HOWARD'S CONTRACT. THAT THAT. BENEFITS THAT ACCRUE TO, UH, A DEPARTMENT HEAD OR GENERAL EMPLOYEE AT THE VILLAGE, ALL ALSO CREW TO THE VILLAGE MANAGER. THAT'S VERY COMMON CLOSETS CALLED UP. IT'S A CALL. THE MOST FAVORITE NATION CLAUSES IS WHAT IT'S CALLED LEGAL JARGON. UM, BUT IN IMPLEMENTING THAT WE DIDN'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY CONCERN OR THOUGHT THAT WHEN A CITY MANAGER GIVES THAT AS AN INCENTIVE TO HIRE SOMEBODY THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT BECOMES THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY MANAGER THAT WOULD NOT COMPUTE IMMEDIATELY WHEN I HEARD THE THOUGHT I SAID, YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK IN THE STATE ETHICS ETHICS LAWS ANYWAYS, SO WOULD BE BEST TO GO AHEAD AND ADD IN ADDITIONAL SENTENCE TO HEAR THAT EXPRESSLY SAYS. THAT'S NOT THAT DOES NOT OCCUR. SO I PUT TOGETHER SOME LANGUAGE ON THAT, SO I WOULD I WOULD ASK THAT. IN ADOPTING IT TONIGHT YOU ARE PERMITTED IN APPROVING IT ON FIRST READING TONIGHT. YOU STAYED IN THE MOTION THAT, UH, THE BELT ATTORNEY WOULD ADD ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE DIRECTED TO THAT WILL COME BACK TO YOU FOR SECOND READ. DID WE GET EMOTIONAL FOR DISCUSSION? CAN I GET EMOTIONAL THEN WE'LL OPEN OPEN DISCUSSION. SOME OF THE SECOND COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ. YES, MR OF VILLAGE ATTORNEY JUST SO THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND. IF. THE POSSIBILITY IT'S JUST SAY SB. 6 20. PASSES. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE, BUT WE HAVE TO DO A BUSINESS STATEMENT FOR IT. I'M GOING TO GO LOOK AT THE LIST OF EXEMPTIONS. I DON'T REMEMBER IF PERSONNEL REGULATIONS WERE ON THE LIST OF EXEMPTIONS. IF IT'S NOT ON THE LIST OF EXEMPTIONS, THE ANSWER IS YES. YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT FOR EACH ONE. SO I'M JUST LETTING THE PUBLIC KNOW THIS IS HOW MUCH MORE WORK. IT'S GOING TO BE FOR STAFF. IN REGARDS OF IN THE FUTURE OF I KNOW THIS WILL BE PASSED. I DON'T KNOW HOW AMENDED IT WILL BE BY THEN. BUT SOMETHING THIS SIMPLE AS PERSONNEL REGULATIONS WILL HAVE TO DO. US BUSINESS STATEMENT FOR THANK YOU. THE JOB. GET THE MOTION NEED TO BE MADE WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT WEIGHT STATED. IT WAS IT WAS THE MAN. YEAH I THINK IF YOU PUT IT DOWN AS THAT, I THINK THAT WAS THE MOTION TO TAKE IT WITH MY OKAY. SO WE ROLL CALL DARRIN. COUNCILOR STONE YES. THAT'S ONE OF THE THOMAS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ YES. PLACE, MAN, DARLING. MARY CLARK. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION NUMBER SEVEN. MR BROWN? YES,[7.
Recruitment and RetentionTools
]MADAM MAYOR. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. IT IS, AS YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE HAS SEVERAL OPEN POSITIONS.WE'VE HAD A VERY DIFFICULT TIME RECRUITING FOR THEM, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH WAYS TO AMELIORATE THE VACANCIES ABOUT KILL HIM. AH ONE IN PARTICULAR. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT RECRUITING, BUT WE'RE HAVING RETENTION ISSUES AS WELL. SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS FITTING TO INCLUDE RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT AND THIS DISCUSSION AND SO THEIR NUMBER COMMUNITIES DOING A NUMBER OF THINGS. EVERYBODY'S DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. STEWART FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'RE GIVING SIGNING BONUS OF TWO WEEKS. PAY UPFRONT FOR FOLKS THAT COME ON BOARD WITH THEM.
OTHER CITIES AROUND FLORIDA HERE IN THIS AREA. THEY'RE DOING THINGS AND SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS EXPLORE SOMETHING TO BRING BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. AND WE'RE OPEN TO OPEN TO ANY ANY RECOMMENDATION. UH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST OFF THE TOP RIGHT NOW. I THINK WITH WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING NOW, WITH COVID YOU
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KNOW WE HAVE TO. WE HAVE TO PART TIME POSITIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT RIGHT NOW YOU KNOW THEY'RE THEY'RE WORKING 25 TO 30 HOURS RIGHT NOW AND SO. AND WE REALLY NEED THEM AT 40. WE REALLY NEED TO BE FULL TIME THAT WOULD HELP THE OPERATION BECAUSE WHEN SOMEONE'S OUT SICK OR VACATION.THERE IS NO BACKUP, AND I SENT YOU GUYS IN THE EMAIL. I THINK IT WAS AN ARTICLE I READ IN THE NEW YORK TIMES. IT'S ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN SMALL TOWN AMERICA. AND IT TALKED ABOUT HOW WHERE, YOU KNOW MUNICIPALITY. YOU'RE JUST HAVING A SHUTDOWN. PUT US ON THE DOOR AND SAY WE DON'T WE'RE NOT OPEN. AND SO WE'VE BEEN DIFFERENT UP HERE ARE OUR STAFF HAS WORKED THROUGH COVID, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR AND A HALF TWO YEARS OR WHATEVER. AND SO WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH IT AS BEST AS WE CAN SO WE'D LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT, START LOOKING AT AND SEEING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING. I DIDN'T WANT TO GO OUT AND DO THIS AND THEN COME BACK. AND YOU GUYS SAY WHY DID YOU DO IT? SO I THOUGHT I'D COME GET PERMISSION FIRST AND SEE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE.
COUNCILMAN STONE. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE TO BE HONEST. COUNCILWOMAN GIVES THOMAS. OKAY SO MY QUESTION IS AND BELIEVE ME , I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION. BUT YOU SAY WE HAVE WE CURRENTLY HAVE A COUPLE OF PART TIME. THAT ARE 30 HOURS A WEEK, BUT THEN WE HAVE POSITIONS THAT ARE OPEN THAT ARE FULL TIME. BUT YOU'RE WANTING TO MAKE THE PART TIME FULL TIME TO COVER . SO WHY DON'T WE JUST MOVE THE PART TIME INTO THE FULL TIME POSITIONS? THAT'S A STRATEGY THAT'S THE THAT'S GOOD. STILL HAVE YOUR PART TIME THAT YOU'RE AND YOU HAVEN'T CREATED ANOTHER FULL TIME POSITION SHOULD HAVE A PART TIME BUT YOU'VE MOVED THOSE PEOPLE INTO THE FULL TIME POSITION THAT'S JUST. RISING CREATE MORE POSITIONS. GO AHEAD AND FILL THE ONES YOU GOT. VICE MAYOR DOLLAR? YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY, UM UH, SINCE IT IS DISCUSSION, YOU GUYS TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, KIND OF EXPLORE WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING. AND BRING IT BACK BECAUSE I READ THE ARTICLE. UM AND YOU KNOW WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS THE POLICE CHIEF. THAT'S OUT PICKING UP TRASH. BE BECAUSE THERE IS NOBODY ELSE.
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN FACING. SO I DO THINK THAT IN THIS ENVIRONMENT THAT, UH, FINDING OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND SEEING WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND BRING THAT BACK AND WE CAN KIND OF CHOOSE MM. COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ. YES, AND I CONCUR WITH MY COLLEAGUES IN REGARDS OF THAT, UM, FOR ME. RETENTION IS REALLY ESSENTIAL BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY PUT THE EFFORT IN TRYING TO TRAIN THEM AND THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. UM AND I KNOW A LOT OF, UH EMPLOYEES LOOK FOR, LIKE EXTRA DAYS OFF, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU KNOW THEY HAVE CHILDREN IN SCHOOL. AND YOU THEY DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO YOU KNOW, SPEND QUALITY TIME. YOU KNOW THE WEEK OFF FOR THANKSGIVING OR HALF A WEEK. UM YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY THIS YEAR I WAS LIKE MAN. THE MILITARY IN TOWN GAVE THEIR EMPLOYEES SO I'M LIKE WE GAVE THE EMPLOYEES TO TWO DAYS FOR CHRISTMAS IN TWO DAYS FOR NEW YEARS. AND YOU KNOW I DIDN'T HAVE THAT. SO YOU KNOW, TRYING TO KEEP THEM HAPPY, SATISFIED SO THAT THEY CAN STILL STAY HERE BECAUSE THE REVOLVING DOOR. IT'S HAPPENING MORE FREQUENTLY THAN EVER, AND I CAN TELL YOU CITY FIRST AND LUCY. THEY'RE ALWAYS HIRING. THEY CAN'T MAINTAIN. I WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE AND THEY'RE LIKE AND THEIR DEPARTMENT THEY CAN MAINTAIN. ONE PERSON FOR A YEAR AND WE WERE SO SMALL. WE CAN'T WE CAN'T GO THROUGH THAT, SO I THINK RETAINING AND PUTTING IN THE EFFORT AND RETAINING WHAT WE HAVE IN TRYING TO MAKE THOSE THAT THAT WORK BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW THE BONUSES FOR SIGN ON. I KNOW CITY OF STEWART. UM, I KNON HALLANDALE BEACH, AND SHE TOLD ME THAT BECAUSE OF COVID.
THEY'RE LIKE TRYING TO ALTERNATE , UM, FREAKING AT HOME. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST WORKING WITH, LIKE JUGGLING, YOU KNOW, HAVING SOMEONE THERE ONE DAY, BUT YOU KNOW THE OTHER PERSON WILL BE AT HOME. IF THEY'RE DOING THE SAME THING LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE TO PERMIT TEXT ONE DOING SOMETHING UM AT HOME. FOR A DAY . UM, ONCE A MONTH OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN, UM CAN HELP THE VILLAGE BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOU HAVE TO RETAIN. THANK YOU. SUSAN GIBBS,
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THOMAS. YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT RETENTION? UM THE EMPLOYEES THEMSELVES, I THINK WOULD BE A GREAT HELP AND THAT INFORMATION THE EITHER AN ANNUAL OR SEMI ANNUAL BLIND EMPLOYEE SURVEY. I THINK WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO GET THE FEEL FOR THE WORK ATMOSPHERE. THE MORALE UM AND EVEN RETENTION IDEAS. WHAT EMPLOYEES LIKE WHAT THEY DON'T LIKE. I THINK THAT THAT MAY BE A VERY SIMPLE AND COST EFFECTIVE TOOL. TO KIND OF GET AN IDEA. VICE MAYOR STONE. I MEAN, UM DALLAS? YEAH, UM NO. WHEN COVID HIT ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE THAT WE HAD HERE AT THE VILLAGE. WAS. MOVING BEING OPEN FOUR DAYS, SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION, AND I KNOW I GOT MURDERED FOR IT. UM BECAUSE WHEN YOU MAKE SURE THAT I GUESS THE EMPLOYEES ARE HERE EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK, BUT, UM, NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY DEALING WITH THE PROBLEM OF HAVING FOLKS HERE SO THAT MAY BE ANOTHER OPTION. I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. UM BUT IT DIDN'T GO OVER. WELL OBVIOUSLY THE LAST THE LAST TIME WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION, BUT, UM , THAT COULD BE ANOTHER OPTION AS WELL. COUNCILMAN STONE. YES I ACTUALLY I KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA. COUNCILWOMAN GIVES STANDARDS JUST MENTIONED ABOUT BLIND SURVEY. AND ALSO I KNOW ONE POINT WHERE WE WERE MEETING AT THE CIVIC CENTER. WE DISCUSS HAVING A COMMENT BOX. HMM I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY BRING THAT. INTO PARISIAN. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE ONE INDEED. VILLAGE HALL AS WELL AS ONE FOR STYLE.SO THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP UP WITH THAT STUFF. BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING ON THE FLY. THERE MIGHT BE WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND THINK ABOUT IT BE LIKE OH, I SHOULD MENTION THAT THERE YOU GO. COUNCILWOMAN GIVES TIMES. YEAH, TO KIND OF BUILD ON THE VICE MAYORS IDEAS. SINCE WE'RE KICKING AROUND THINGS, UM IT MAY BE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OPEN FOUR DAYS. AND THEY WHAT WE DO FIVE DAYS OR BETTER, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOUR EMPLOYEES THAT OPTION. SOMEBODY MIGHT RATHER WORK FOR 10 HOUR DAYS, AND IF YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF THEM THEN SOMEBODY CAN WORK MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
SOMEBODY COULD WORK TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. YOU COULD EAT. SOME PEOPLE JUST WANT AN EIGHT HOUR DAY, SO MAYBE A FLEX SCHEDULE. SO EVERYTHING'S COVERED, BUT THEN YOU GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY. YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE A LITTLE MORE EMPLOYEES SATISFACTION. YOU KEEP IT OPEN.
FIVE DAYS FOR THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU'RE STILL SO IT ALL THOSE THINGS YOU KNOW, ARE POSSIBILITIES. GOOD ROBUST CONVERSATION, VICE MAYOR YOU'RE DONE. SO MR BROWN? NO, I GOT SOME IDEAS. I GOT TO MY WE'RE WAITING FOR YOU TO COME BACK. GOOD CONVERSATION. GUYS. I APPRECIATE IT. WE HAVE PUBLIC COUNT. COME IN. LINDA, MISS NIKE, UM AN IDEA. IF YOU HAVE TO PART TIME POSITIONS OPEN TO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. WHAT IF THERE WAS A FULL TIME PERSON HIRED THAT COULD FLOAT BETWEEN THE TWO DEPARTMENTS SAY WORK THREE DAYS ON ONE DEPARTMENT TODAY'S ON ANOTHER AND THE FOLLOWING WEEK. SWITCH IT AROUND. SOMEBODY THAT COULD COVER. WHEREVER THERE IS THE NEED. AH YOU MIGHT FIND SOMEBODY MORE WILLING TO TAKE ON A FULL TIME POSITION AND STILL COVER ALL YOUR BASES COULD IDEA IT'S CALLED CROSS TRAINING. ALL RIGHT
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Financial Update
]. GOOD DISCUSSION. THANKS FOR THE INPUT. NEVER NINE, MR MARK. ALL RIGHT. I HOPE I SAID THAT RIGHT MARK. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, MR VICE MAYOR, ESTEEMED MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MARK PARKS AND FINANCE DIRECTOR. PRESENTING YOU WITH THE FINANCIAL REPORTS FOR NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER OF 21. YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THOSE IN MY YOUR PACKET. MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS PROCESS IF YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS. THAT YOU MAY HAVE,[01:50:03]
BUT WITH THAT SAID, I'LL GIVE YOU A FEW HIGHLIGHTS AND I'LL JUST TALK ABOUT DECEMBER BECAUSE IT WAS SUPERSEDED BY I MEAN NOVEMBER SUPERSEDED BY THAT. IN DECEMBER. YOU RECEIVED. THE MAJORITY OF YOUR AVELAR, UM, TAXES. AND YET, THIS POINT YOU'RE AT 98% OF THE BUDGET. SO THAT'S THAT'S GREAT FOR YOUR GENERAL FUND SO OVERALL FOR THE GENERAL FUNDS SO FAR, YOU'VE COLLECTED 67% OF THE REVENUES. AND THAT'S THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE FISCAL YEAR. FOR THE EXPENDITURE SIDE. YOU'RE ONLY AT 16% SO JUST TO PUT THAT IN FIRST ACTIVE BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR. IF YOU'RE A STRAIGHT LINE, YOU WOULD HAVE GOTTEN 25% OF YOUR EXPENSES. THE BIG VARIANCES IN PUBLIC WORKS. YOU HAD CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, A BUDGET OF $820,000. BUT THERE'S ONLY 38,000 SO FAR, SO IT'S REALLY A TIMING DIFFERENCE ON WHEN THOSE PROJECTS AND THAT CONTRACTUAL WORK WILL HAPPEN WILL HAPPEN. NOTHING MUCH GOING ON IN THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND AND ON THE UTILITY SIDE SO FAR, YOU'VE RECEIVED 25% OF YOUR REVENUES, BUT THE EXPENDITURES ARE 46. BUT THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE UTILITIES ARE BILLED FOR SERVICE SO THEY WOULD BE JUST ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT IT WOULD BE ON THAT QUARTERLY BASIS, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE YOU ARE. FUND BALANCES ARE SLIGHTLY UP, AND THAT'S JUST BASED ON REVENUES EXCEEDING EXPENDITURES. SO OVERALL, THE CITY AT THIS POINT IS IN A GOOD POSITION. QUESTIONS TO COUNCIL.THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU ARE. AND ANNOUNCEMENTS. DON'T EVERYBODY GET THE CLEAN UP THIS
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WEEKEND FROM EIGHT TO TWO P.M. AT THE FIRE STATION ON PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT IN THE PARK AND UP HERE AT THE DID SHE SAY, TO SIT WITH CENTER POST FAMILY PART? CIVIC CENTER. ALL RIGHT.UH, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS. THERE'S A MEETING IS
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