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THIS MEETING IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER. ROLL CALL AMERICA CLARK HERE, VICE MAYOR DOWLING. HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER GIVES THOMAS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. HERE. COMPLIMENTS FOR STONE.
HERE. WE WILL NOT HAVE THE INVOCATION BY COUNCIL MEMBER STONE FOLLOWED THE PLEASURE LEADER. UM. YOU'RE HAVING A FATHER. WE COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. YOUR BUSINESS. TAKE CARE OF OUR SMALL TOWN HERE IN INDIAN TOWN. FOR GUIDANCE AND PROTECTION. GIVE US WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTAND. THE PARTY, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA STANDS WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, GETTING JUSTICE THROUGH ALL. AT THIS TIME. ANY ADDITIONS
[ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, PULLED ITEMS OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS]
DELETIONS POUR FROM THE, UM, MAJORITY ON THE AGENDA. WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THE COUNCIL COMMENTS FOR THE NEXT MEETING FOR THE SAKE OF TIME. IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH THE COUNCIL? MADAM CLARK. IS THERE ANY PROCLAMATIONS AWARDS EXPRESS SHIP PRESENTATIONS? WE NEED TO[1. Certificate of Appreciation to Warfield Elementary for participating in Florida City Government Week October 18-24, 2021]
DO A DELETION OF ITEM NUMBER ONE FROM THE AGENDA. WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT ON DECEMBER, 9TH. YEAH.OKAY? ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S WHAT I HAVE A LESSON OF BRITAIN. THE COUNCIL HAS ANY.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. YES, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THE FIRST ONE IS FROM JP PESTS, QUALI. TRAINS HELICOPTERS AND AUTOMOBILES. I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU AND WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT INDIAN TOWN IS ALREADY A UNIQUE SMALL COUNTRY TOWN AND THAT YOU HAVE A GOD GIVEN RESPONSIBILITY. TO PROTECT AND PROSPER. THOSE OF US WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE. WE HAD BEEN SEEING MORE FREIGHT TRAIN TRAFFIC AND LONGER TRAINS THAT ARE STARTING TO COME IN THE DAYLIGHT HOURS AND ARE BLOCKING US IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 20, PLUS MINUTES. AT A TIME IN THE MORNINGS. I LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS OFFER FERNWOOD FORCED ROAD IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OVER TO SOUTHWEST FAMILY AVENUE ARE ABOUT 60 RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THE RANGE IN SIZE FROM A THIRD OF AN ACRE TO ABOUT TWO ACRES. BETWEEN US.IT'S A BEAUTIFUL 55 ACRE, OKAY, HAMMOCK THAT MUST BE PROTECTED FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. IT'S HIS STORY, ZERO LOT LINE RENTAL COMMUNITY CALLED RIVER OAKS HAS BEEN PROPOSED IN THESE OLD FLORIDA WOODS IS OKAY, MICK HELPS COOL OUR TOWN, REMOVE POLLUTANTS AND PROVIDES HABITAT FOR VARIOUS AND DIVERSE ANIMALS AND PLANTS. NO MORE THAN 50. RESIDENTIAL HOMES SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN THIS AREA WITH EVEN 50 MORE HOMES, POSSIBLY 150 OR MORE PEOPLE MAY END UP IN OUR COMMUNITY. DUE TO INCREASING TRAIN TRAFFIC. YOU MUST RECONSIDER WHAT AND HOW MUCH BUILDING SHOULD GO ON. THE SIDE OF TOWN THAT IS BETWEEN THE ST LUCIE CANAL. THE RAILROAD TRACKS. PLEASE CONSIDER HOW LONG TRAINS MAY BLOCK THE ENTIRE TOWN FROM SOUTHWEST SILVER FOX LANE TO FERNWOOD FORCED ROAD AND HOW YOU WILL PUT THE HUNDREDS OF NEW RESIDENCES, RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IN DANGER. INCLUDING INDIAN TOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS. YOU THE VILLAGE COUNCIL AND ZONING AND PLANNING BOARD WILL NEED TO BUILD A SHERIFF AND FIRE AMS SUBSTATION WITH A HELL A PAD. ON THE SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND A BRIDGE OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS. IF YOU INTEND TO MAKE THIS PART OF THE TOWN AND URBAN CITY AREA, PLEASE PROTECT AND PROSPER THE CURRENT RESIDENTS OF THIS SMALL COUNTRY TOWN. AND THEN THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MARGIE MAN. YES. OKAY. PODIUMS IS YOUR NAME. MY NAME IS MARGIE MAN. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I WANTED TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION. THE LACK OF ORGANIZED SIZE ORGANIZED PROGRAMS FOR THE INDIAN TOWN YOUTH. THERE IS A. CURRENTLY AVOID FOR THE AGE
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GROUP FROM 10 TO 16. I NOTICED THAT THERE ARE LEAKS THAT ARE WELL ORGANIZED, BUT THIS IS FOR 18 OF AGE. GROUP BUT NOT MUCH FOR THE H I JUST MENTIONED. MANY SOCCER LEAGUES FOR ADULTS AND VERY LITTLE AVAILABLE FOR CHILDREN UNDER 16. FACILITIES ARE USED. FOR EXAMPLE, THE BIG MAMA PARK. BUT IT'S VERY POORLY MAINTAINED. COMPARED TO THE OTHER PUBLIC FACILITIES IN THE NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS. SUCH AS PALM CITY, STEWART. HOPES DOWN WITHIN MARTIN COUNTY. TRAVEL TEAMS ARE ORGANIZED IN ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS MENTIONED YET INDIAN TOWN HAS ONLY ONE TEAM THAT TRAVELS COUNTY Y. AND THAT IS INDIAN TOWN WARRIORS. WHAT IS AVAILABLE FOR THEIR CHILDREN THAT THEIR INTEREST IS NOT SUCKER. JUST THE MENTION INDIAN TOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL JUST UNDER THEIR VOLLEYBALL SEASON 50 GIRLS. TRIED OUT FOR THE SCHOOL TEAM YET ONLY 12. WORTH SELECTIVE OUT OF THE 50. REQUIREMENTS LIKE MISSING CURRENT MEDICAL PHYSICAL. OR EVEN SIMPLY BASED ON GRADE POINT AVERAGE, CONSIDERED FROM THE LAST QUARTER LAST PHYSICAL SCHOOL YEAR. UNABLE. MANY GREAT POTENTIAL PLAYERS TO FORM PART OF THAT TEAM. THE BOYS DID NOT EVEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. AS THE SPORT IS NOT APPROVED AT THE COUNTY LEVEL TO HAVE A QUOTE. QUITE A TEAM. AT THIS TIME. WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS MORE INTEREST IN THE SPORT.JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SPORT. THAT IT'S NOT PLAYED IN INDIAN TOWN. LET'S JUST SAY IF WE COULD ORGANIZE ALL THE GIRLS TO TRY OUT. THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SIX AVAILABLE TEAMS TO FORM THE FIRST INDIAN VOLLEYBALL INDIAN TOWN VOLLEYBALL LEAGUE. THE NUMBERS ARE THERE 8 TO 10 GIRLS PER TEAM. IF WE INCLUDE THE BOYS, WE MIGHT EVEN HAVE A HIGHER NUMBER YET WE DON'T HAVE AN ANY OTHER THE PUBLIC FACILITY VOLLEYBALL. CHORDS TO EVEN HOST THE PROVIDE AND PROVIDE FOR THEM TO HAVE A PLACE TO PLAY. YES SPORTS EXHAUST. YES A SPORTS COMPLEX WOULD BE IDEAL. BUT WE NEED TO WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE NOW. SAME THING HAPPENS WITH OTHER SPORTS LIKE BASE. BIG BASKETBALL, TENNIS, KICKBALL AND EVEN GOLF. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB ALLOWED THE I N S VOLLEYBALL TEAM TO HAVE AN EXTRA PRACTICE. TO HELP THE COMPETE AGAINST OTHER SCHOOLS THAT HAVE THE FACILITIES AND COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR THEM TO PLAY ALL YEAR. ROUND BUT SEASON WAS LESS THAN TWO MONTHS LONG.
AND THE GIRLS THAT LOVE THE SPORT DON'T GET TO PLAY UNLESS THEY DRIVE AWAY TO PORT SAN LUCY AND PLAY. AND PAY TO PLAY ON A DAILY BASIS AND OPEN GYM. EVERY SPORT I HAVE MENTIONED OTHER THAN SOCCER. IT'S SOMETHING I CAN SAY HAS HAD SOME SUPPORT. BUT NOT EVEN SINCE WEDNESDAY LEAGUE MUST PAY $20 PER HOUR TO BE ABLE TO HOST FEW GAMES. LEE CURRENTLY HAS 16 TEAMS AND MANY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS PARTICIPATE BECAUSE TRANSPORTATION FOR EXTRA ACTIVITIES AT THE SOUTH FORK HIGH SCHOOL, IT'S A CHALLENGE. I DON'T KNOW. I WOULDN'T HAVE THREE MINUTES AND THE TRANSPORTATION FOR KIDS THAT HAVE POTENTIAL AND WANT TO DEDICATE THAT TIME CANNOT PARTICIPATE IN ORGANIZED BOARD IN SOUTHWARD BECAUSE AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITY. BUT THIS FULL AND UNSAFE WHERE STUDENTS ARE SHARING SEATS, 3 TO 4 PER SEAT WHEN IT'S ONLY TWO PER PASSENGER SEATING. DON'T WANT TO DEVIATE. MY CONCERN REGARDING PARKS AND REC. IT'S MORE ABOUT WHAT IS THE VILLAGE IS SPONSORING TO FIX THE VOID AND CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEIR TOWN. FOR THIS TOWN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER IS DOUG CALDWELL. MY NAME IS DOUG CALDWELL I HAD SOME SOME SOME COMMENTS REGARDING THE WORKSHOP, BUT THAT'S FINE. WE CAN DO IT NOW WHEN I GET HOME WATCH FOOTBALL GAME. UH HUH. PROGRAM I INSTITUTED IN MY OTHER JOB OR OTHER LIFE WAS CAN WE READ IT HERE? ITS REGARD TO, UH WITH REGARD TO VOLUNTEER STUDENTS OF HIGH SCHOOL. MR BEING WORKED MY
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PHONE. AT THE CLOCK ON THE SUSAN MHM. 10 OKAY, UH, I THINK I DON'T KNOW IN FLORIDA, BUT I KNOW IN PENNSYLVANIA VOLUNTEER HOURS OR REQUIREMENT FOR GRADUATION AS THE SAME HERE, OKAY UP THERE. WE INSTITUTE, A PROGRAM CALLED JUNIOR COUNSEL PERSON. UM. THAT PROGRAM PROVIDED YOUTH IN YOUR COMMUNITY WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE IN AND IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT DEVELOP LEADERSHIP SKILLS. IT ALSO ALLOWED BOROUGH OFFICIALS TO SERVE AS MENTORS TO STUDENTS WHO WILL BE THE FUTURE LEADERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. IT WAS PRETTY SUCCESSFUL. WE HAD SENIORS SENIOR STUDENT DOING IT AND I THINK WE DID ABOUT FOUR DIFFERENT TERMS. AND THEY YOU COULD. YOU COULD TAILOR YOUR TERM TO WHATEVER YOU WANT. UP THEY WOULD GET A SEAT. I COULD I COULD EXPLAIN IT TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO, BUT THEY WOULD GET A SEAT AT THE TABLE, GET AN AGENDA AND COORDINATE INFORMATION FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THAT'S PERTINENT INFORMATION FOR YOU. SO IF YOU WANT. TO MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH ANY ONE OF YOU. YOU ALL HAVE MY NUMBER. UM SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM TO GET. YOUNGSTERS INVOLVED THAT THERE ARE FUTURE SO THE MORE INFORMATION WE GET TO THEM. IN FACTUAL INFORMATION, THE BETTER THANK YOU. Q. YEAH. NEXT, HE WELCOME. NEXT SPEAKER IS JOSEPH ALEXIS. THEY ARE DOING. UH MY NAME IS JOSEPH. ALEXIS. I'VE BEEN, UH. I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE IN TOWN FOR, LIKE, ALMOST LIKE ALL MY LIFE, SO PRETTY MUCH SO, UM AND I'M VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, I HAVE A. EVENT THAT'S COMING UP AND IT'S CALLED THE TRUNK IT STREET. BASICALLY IT'S LIKE IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT'S FROM WHERE I'M FROM. DON'T WANT TO TRAVEL WAY DOWN THERE TO GO DO ANYTHING SO, UH, PRETTY MUCH TRY TO GET. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT I KNOW IN THE OLD NEIGHBORHOOD TO ACTUALLY TRY TO PARTICIPATE AND TRY TO DO IT LIKE A CHUNK OF TREAT INDIAN TIME IN BONAPARTE, ACTUALLY, BUT. MY IDEAL THING IS, UM NOT ONLY DO I JUST WANT TO DO IT JUST FOR LIKE, BOOK APART. IT HAS TO BE TO A POINT WHERE, LIKE, UM. WE'VE GOT TO TRY TO GET THE WHOLE TOWN INVOLVED WITH IT SOME TYPE OF WAY. NOT WHAT I'M ASKING FOR WITH THIS, UH, WITH THE TRUMPET TREE IS THAT CAN WE GET SOME VOLUNTEERS TO COME OUT THE PASS OUT SOME CANDY? I MEAN, SHOW SOME FACES AND STUFF LIKE THAT CANDY. I'M TRYING TO GET SOME MOM. HOT DOGS AND. CHIPS, AND SO JUST IT'S MAINLY FOR THE KIDS, SO I DON'T. PRETTY MUCH CARE ABOUT THE ADULTS, BUT, UM, THE PROGRAMS THAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS I LIKE MY EMPHASIS I'M TRYING TO. I'M TRYING TO GET THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF MY POINTS. MY SECOND POINT IS. UH I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW RIGHT NOW, UM, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE CLASSES ARE ACTUALLY WANT TO IMPLEMENT IS, UM IT'S UH, PRETTY MUCH, UM FINANCIAL LOT LOT OF US. YOU KNOW MINORITIES. DON'T HAVE THE LITERATURE TO ACTUALLY PROGRESS, AND THERE'S NO CLASSES FOR THAT IF WE DON'T GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE SIT DOWN AND WE TEACH HIM, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. FINANCIAL LITERACY? WE AIN'T GOING NOWHERE AND LIKE I WANT TO ACTUALLY WANT TO THAT'S ONE OF THE CLASSES I WANT TO. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO, AND THE SECOND ONE IS. IT'S A LOT OF TEAMS OUT THERE. UH AGAIN, MINORITY THEY DON'T LIKE.THERE'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF CLASSES. I WOULD LOVE TO SIT WITH Y'ALL TO ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT, LIKE CLASSES OF, UM MOST OF THEM EVEN KNOW, SOMEBODY WRITES. AND THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGER PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WAS, YOU KNOW? WHAT DO TO THEM. SO I ACTUALLY WANTED LIKE DUE TO CLASSES AND I WOULD LOVE TO DO MORE EVENTS OUT THERE AND ALIEN CHILD. HAVE GREAT IDEAS, AND I REALLY WANT TO KIND OF BRIDGE THE GAP. UH UPTOWN TO DOWNTOWN AND BOOK APART. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO, AND I'M WILLING TO HELP TRY TO BUILD A BRIDGE THAT GAP. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BUT UM AGAIN, IF WE CAN TRY TO GET THAT GOING, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IF THAT'S ALL I'M MESSING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF HELP. IF YOU CAN'T SO, UH, WHERE'S. YOUR EVENT IS THIS SATURDAY OR THE SUNDAY SUNDAY FOR HALLOWEEN, LORETTA OVER EVENT. SATURDAY AS YOU HAD THE SAME LOCATION. YOU'LL BE AT THE LOCATION SUNDAY. SAME THING YOU KNOW, I'LL BE THERE SATURDAY. I LIKE AGAIN. I TRY TO SUPPORT MUCH AS WHAT'S GOING ON IN IT. DO YOU HAVE THE HOT DOGS YET? NO WE DON'T HAVE THE HOT DOGS. YEAH UM, IN THE IN THE PROCESS OF CHINA PERSONALLY DONATE 200 HOT DOGS AND BUNS, ARE THEY? THAT'S THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, WHAT TIME IS YOUR INTENT ON SUNDAY? WHAT TIME IS YOUR EVENT ON SUNDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK, I'LL
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TRY TO GET THERE AROUND BY FOUR O'CLOCK. SO THAT WAY, WHEN, UH, AT LEAST, UH, THE KID CAN START COMING AT FIVE. WE ALREADY BE, UM, LAST TIME WE DID IT LAST TIME. WE KIND OF WAS LATE A LITTLE BIT, AND I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GET AHEAD OF IT. A LITTLE BIT. SO DO YOU NEED PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TRUNK? PART LOVE TO HAVE SOME PEOPLE TO COME BECAUSE IT WAS I ENJOYED. I PARTICIPATED IN THAT EVENT LAST YEAR ON THE TRUNK OR TREE PART. YEAH AND IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. I APPRECIATE YOU STEPPING UP AND I WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE AGAIN IF I CAN. IF I CAN ASK TO, UM I WOULD LOVE I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS GROWING UP. WE ALWAYS HAD A CHANCE TO, UH, WE HAD HUNTING HOUSES LIKE MAYBE NO TALENT HAD, LIKE THREE OF AND. THESE KIDS NOWADAYS.DON'T EVEN GET THAT FEELING. DON'T GET THAT JOINT MINT. THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. SO I WANT TO BRING THAT KIND OF EXCITEMENT BACK AT LEAST YOU KNOW. GIVE HIM EVERY LIKE EVERY HOLIDAY IS SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO. AND I WANT TO KIND OF DO IT HERE INSTEAD OF GOING OUTSIDE OUT OF THE WAY TO TRY TO DO ANYTHING ELSE. I MEAN, HERE'S HERE'S HOME AND THE KIDS ARE FUTURE. SO WE TRY TO AT LEAST GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED, AS IN DONATED. UH CANDY. UM I MEAN AGAIN. I MEAN, WE ALWAYS DO NO CANDY VOLUNTEERS, UH, CHIPS, JUICES, STUFF LIKE THAT, SO I'LL SHOW UP WITH WHATEVER I MEAN, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE CAN GET. BARBECUE AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE NOBODY COULD BE HONEST WITH YOU THE MOBILE WE CAN GET. THE MOBILE. WE CAN GET BETTER CAN IT GET I'M TRYING TO GO ALL THE WAY TOWARDS THE BOYS GIRLS CLUB, BUT THEN I COULD, UM I ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO SOMEBODY, THE COMPANIES THAT TRY TO AND, UM ACTUALLY, I'M WRITING UP. UH, EVERYTHING THAT THAT'S. THAT'S BEEN SPUN. SO THAT WAY WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT WE LIKE.
YOU KNOW WHAT WE SPEND IT ON EACH EVENT AND LIKE WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO MAKE IT MUCH BIGGER OR THE FUTURE WISE. SO YOU KNOW, I, UM. LISTENING TO, UM AND I KNOW YOU GUYS DID IT LAST YEAR. UM YOU'RE RIGHT. WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN INDIAN TOWN, AND A LOT OF THIS REALLY JUST HAS TO BE, UM, A LOT OF THIS HAS BEEN LIFE HAS HAPPENED. YOU KNOW, UM AND SO I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT I WON'T BE ABLE TO BE THERE THIS WEEKEND. I'M OUT OF TOWN. BUT I JOINED THIS COUNCIL WITH YOU KNOW IF YOU SEND ME YOUR CASH APP OUT SEEING YOU $100 BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY WANT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE CHILDREN BECAUSE AND I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY WHEN YOU SAID IT REALLY IS ABOUT THE KIDS, AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE FOCUSES THAT WE, AS THIS COUNCIL HAS HAD. IS THAT WE REALLY DO WANT TO HELP THE KIDS, IF YOU IF YOU KNOW ANY OF THE EVENTS THAT I HAVE HELD IS IN THE SAME LINE BECAUSE THEY REALLY ARE OUR FUTURE. SO YOU KNOW, IT IS EXCITING TIMES. I'M NOTICING ALL THE EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING. THAT MEANS THAT THE YOU KNOW THE WORLD IS WAKING BACK UP AND THINGS ARE HAPPENING AT. AND IN THIS TIME WE DEFINITELY SHOULD. SO YEAH, INBOX MEDIA CACHE UP. I'LL BE ABLE TO SEND YOU THAT ALTHOUGH I CAN'T BE THERE WITH YOU SO BUT BUT I THINK THIS IS A TESTAMENT AND YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. A FEW. MONTHS AGO BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN COMING TO WANT TO DO SOMETHING.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS A NEED THAT WE CAN FEEL OR, YOU KNOW, TRY TO ATTEMPT IF WE'RE NOT THERE IN PERSON. TRY TO HELP IN OTHER MEANS. SO EXCITING TIMES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE. NEXT SPEAKER IS CAROLYN PARKER. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS CAROLYN PARKER, BORN AND RAISED HERE AND INDIAN TOWN BOOK APART. UM QUITE SURE, I KNOW ALL OF YOU. OKAY, UM MY ISSUE HERE TODAY IS I'M ALONG WITH ALEX. EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN BOOK APART. THEY ALWAYS COME TO OUR PROPERTY NOT FORCE A MIND MY MOTHER WHO I DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY OF DOING WHATEVER. BUT MY PROBLEM NOW IS I'M HAVING TO PULL A PERMIT FOR EVERYTHING. THIS IS DONE. AND SO FAR EVERYTHING I'VE DONE WAS FOR THE CHILDREN, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY PERMIT HAS TO BE FULL. I HAVEN'T ASKED. THE VILLAGE TO HELP ME WITH ANYTHING BECAUSE EVERYTHING I'VE DONE I JUST WENT AND DONE IT. BUT WE HAVE THANKSGIVING COMING UP, AND WE ALSO HAVE CHRISTMAS. WHICH ALEX AND I HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN ON GETTING TOGETHER TO TRY TO GET TOYS AND WHATEVER FOR THESE KIDS. BUT MONEY IS SHORT WITH US, TOO.
AND WE DO NEED HELP. AND ONLY THING I'M ASKING FOR. IT'S NOT. THEY ASKED ME TO PULL PERMIT. I DON'T FEEL AS THOUGH I SHOULD PULL A PERMIT AND. DONATE THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE PARK, AND NONE OF THAT HAS COME BACK TO THE KIDS. THANK YOU. THE FINAL SPEAKER. MADAM MAYOR, THAT IS ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS. SO NOW
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WE WERE MOVED TO COMMITTEE REPORTS. IF THERE IS ANY. UH, VILLAGE MANAGER. NONE AT THIS TIME. I'LL JUST TAKE MY COMMENTS TO OUR WORKSHOP. OKAY APPROVAL OF AGENDA AS AMENDED.[APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]
AS AMENDED APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. SO MOVE AS AMENDED. YOUR SECTOR. ROLL CALL. I MEAN, I'M SORRY. ANY COUNCIL DISCUSSION? ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. NO MATTER THEIR ROLE.COM COUNCIL MEMBER GIVES THOMAS ALRIGHT COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. YES COUNCIL MEMBER STONE? YES BRYCE MAYOR, DARLING. HI. MAYOR CLARK. YES? CONSENT AGENDA. SOMEONE. SECOND. MOVE
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THE SECOND AND THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION. IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, NO MATTER THEIR ROLL CALL MADAM CLERK COUNCIL MEMBER GIVES THOMAS I. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ YES, COUNCIL MEMBER STONE. VICE MAYOR DARLING. HI, MAYOR CLARK. YES. VILLAGE MANAGER. I'M HERE. YES, MADAM.[5.
Application CU-21-003 - A request to obtain conditional use approval for a mobile food vending establishment at 16658 SW Warfield Boulevard.
]MA'AM. ITEM NUMBER FIVE. ON THE AGENDA IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. UH. HEALTHIER JEFFERSON SHOULD BE ABLE TO WALK US THROUGH EXACTLY WHAT'S THIS PRESENTATION IS ABOUT. WHAT THIS ITEM IS IT? AT NUMBER FIVE. SOMETHING EVERY TIME. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL. THANK YOU. UH TONIGHT WE HAVE A PLACE FOR A CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST. AND IN THE CASE OF A MOBILE FOOD VENDING COMPANY, THEY'RE REQUIRED AND ONLY CAN PLACE THEMSELVES WITHIN THE VILLAGE LIMITS. WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL NEXT SLIDE. SOME OF THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO PUT ITS FOOD TRUCK ON A ALMOST FOUR ACRE LOT. AND IT'S LOCATED, UH, JUST EAST OF THE INDIAN TOWN REALTY. AND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. NEXT SLIDE. HERE'S THE SITE. NEXT SLIDE. THE APPLICANT HAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA. FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION AS THEY DID MEET THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUIREMENTS. THE PLANNING AND ZONING. I'M SORRY, THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY. APPROVE THIS APPLICATION OR RECOMMENDED TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH STAFFS CONDITIONS WHICH ARE LISTED IN YOUR HAND OUTS. AND TONIGHT THE VILLAGE COUNCIL MUST APPROVE OR DENY THE REQUEST. CAN YOU GO TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE? THANK YOU. SO THE CONDITIONS ARE IF YOU WANT TO. DO ANYTHING WITH THESE.PRIMARY CONTACT MUST BE ON DISPLAY. THAT MEANS THE PRIMARY CONTACT FOR THE BUSINESS MUST BE IN VIEW. PERHAPS IN THE WINDOW OR THE SIDE OF THE TRUCK. THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL HEALTH AND SANITARY LAWS. THEY HAVE TO KEEP ALL LICENSES IN FULL VIEW. AND ANY FAILURE TO FOLLOW THE CONDITIONS OR RESULT IN DAILY FINES. CODE COMPLIANCE. AND THEY'RE ALSO RESTRICTED TO OPERATING HOURS OF. NO LATER THAN 10 ON WEEKDAYS AND THEN 11 P.M. ON THE WEEKENDS AND CAN'T OPERATE MORE THAN EIGHT HOURS PER DAY. NOW WHAT YOU'LL REALIZE BEFORE OUR WAIT FOR THE QUESTIONS. MHM I I'LL GO AHEAD AND SAY IT, SO WE HAVE CURRENTLY WE HAVE THREE FOOD TRUCKS IN THE VILLAGE. AND AS YOU KNOW, THEY OPERATE MORE THAN EIGHT HOURS A DAY. AND, UM.
THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED. SO THEY CAN OPERATE UNDER THE RULES, WHICH THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS CASE? COUNCILWOMAN OH, LET
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ME MAKE MY DISCLOSURE. I WILL NOT BE VOTING ON THIS ISSUE BECAUSE THEY ARE MY RELATIVES.IT WAS GETTING IMPROVED. FOR THE. FOR THIS FOOD TRUCK TO BE THERE, SO JUST WANT TO MAKE A DISCLOSURE. COUNCILWOMAN SUSAN GIVES THOMAS THANK YOU. UM I JUST A QUICK QUESTION. A MOBILE VENDOR. I'VE HEARD THAT THEY MUST BE ASSOCIATED WITH AN ESTABLISHED RESTAURANT, AN INDIAN TOWN IN ORDER TO HAVE A MOBILE FOOD. TRUCK HERE. IS THAT THAT'S NOT CORRECT. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, VICE MAYOR. YEAH MORE OF A COMMENT. UM I THINK THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME DEALING WITH, UM THIS TYPE OF PERMITTED USE, AND SO I THINK IT KIND OF SPEAKS TO WHERE WE'RE GOING.
AND. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT SOMETIME IN THE PAST, CREATING A DESIGNATED SPOT FOR UM. FOR UM, THESE FOOD TRUCKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO, BUT YOU KNOW WHEN, WHEN, UM UH, THEY'VE KNOWN ME MY WHOLE LIFE SO BUT, UM, WITH WITH ALL AGAIN WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING EXCITED, THEY WANT TO BE OUT. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US. UM BECAUSE UNTIL WE ARE IN A POSITION TO PUT ALL OF THESE, UM FOOD TRUCKS AND A SPOT THEN YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET OVER THERE, YOU KNOW? AND SO AND SO, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT AGAIN, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING BECAUSE WE'RE GROWING. AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST A TESTAMENT SO I LOOK FORWARD TO APPROVING THIS TONIGHT. AND THEN OR WHAT WE CAN DO AS A CONDITIONAL, UM, IS UNTIL WE CAN GET A FOOD TRUCK SPACE, THEN THEY CAN BE AT THAT SPACE, SO I'M DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT. I THINK. THAT WE NEED TO HAVE MORE OF THAT HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WE ARE COMING ALIVE. COUNSELOR STONE.
ACTUALLY COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE ME. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY, COUNSELOR. HERNANDEZ SO I ACTUALLY I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN, UM AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A IT'S A HISTORIC MOMENT. AND WE ALSO EVERYBODY KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT FOOD DROP ON THE MAIN STREET. THAT'S NO SECRET BUT AT THE SAME TIME. I UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION AND RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A DESIGNATED AREA FOR THE FOOD TRUCK. SO BECAUSE OF THAT REASON I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT IT. BUT IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT WOULD LIKE FOR STAFF TO LOOK INTO AT LEAST GETTING SOME NUMBERS AS FAR AS HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST, TOO.
GET THEIR FOOD TRUCK AREA. IT STARTED. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. WOMAN AND, UM, MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS BIGGER THAN. THAN USUAL, UM, IN CASE SOMEONE ELSE COMES. DOES THIS ONLY APPLY TO THIS APPLICANT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. LIKE IF SOMEONE ELSE BECAUSE WE'RE GIVING THEM PERMISSION. SOMEONE ELSE IS LIKE, WELL, THEY ALREADY GOT THE PERMISSION. I CAN PUT MY FOOD TRUCK THERE. HI. SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES. EACH MOBILE FOOD VENDOR MUST MAKE THEIR OWN APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL, OKAY? SO THIS WOULD BE ONLY FOR THE APPLICANT. FOR WHAT WE'RE PROVING TODAY. YES, OKAY. AND THE BUSINESS NAME.
CORRECT. AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY. DO WE HAVE TO SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT WHEN WE DO OUR MOTION, JUST FOR SPECIFICALLY ONLY THEM. THE WAY THAT CONDITIONS READ. WE SPECIFIED THEIR NAMES. OKAY CONDITION TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. OKAY. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. WAIT THANK YOU, MARY. THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU'LL BE APPROVING AS PART OF THIS NOT COORDINATES.
PARDON ME THE ORDER YOU'LL BE APPROVING TONIGHT AS PART OF THIS IF IT'S YOUR WILL TO DO SO SPECIFICALLY NAMES BIG G BARBECUE, SO IT'S THE ORDER IS SPECIFIC TO THAT PARTICULAR OPERATOR. SO ANOTHER WORDS, IT'LL BE AN APPLICATION CASE BY CASE. CORRECT IF YOU YES. ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. NO, MADAM. THERE. ROLL CALL. COUNCIL MEMBER GIVES THOMAS I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND. SORRY. I'M SORRY. CAN I GET A MOTION? IT'S ABOUT A DAY BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION. UM UH, THE TWO CONDITIONS THAT I AM THINKING IS AS AS THE. THE CONDITIONS
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THAT HAVE BEEN LAID OUT. UM AS AT THE HAS ANNOUNCED AND THEN ALSO, I BELIEVE ONCE WE DO HAVE A DESIGNATED AREA. THEN WE CAN NOW HAVE A AREA WHERE ALL OF THE FOOD TRUCKS CAN GO. SO THAT'S THAT'S MY IDEA. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE UH. IS THINKING THAT BUT I JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS. YES WE'RE IN AGREEMENT. THANK SUSAN GIBBS. THOMAS WAS IN OKEECHOBEE IN. I'VE SEEN IT, BUT SHE BROUGHT IT BACK TO US. THERE IS A DESIGNATED PLACE IN OKEECHOBEE. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND HOW STRATEGIC MEETING BEFORE YOU KNOW WHEN WE'VE BEEN PLANNING, SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A. A PLACE OF PEOPLE COULD GET A VARIETY OF FOOD, BUT WE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. BUT YES, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT OKAY. AND WITH THAT I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION SECOND. SORRY MAYOR. YES IF I COULD ASK REAL QUICK. UM, JUST THE APPLICANT IS THE APPLICANT IN THE AUDIENCE HERE IS JUST FOR THE RECORD IS. YOUR COME UP QUICK. I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU ALL. ARE YOU ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT CONDITION? FANTASTIC ALRIGHT, JUST WANTED TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD. THE ANSWER IS WHY YOU'RE THE LAWYER. ALL RIGHT? AS. AND SO WITH THAT I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. I THINK WE HAVE A SECOND. WE HAVE THE SECOND. OH, ROLL CALL, MADAM CLERK DISCUSSION. I MEAN OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. Y'ALL UNDISCUSSED. I DON'T ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. YEAH, ANY OTHER IS ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? ROAD CALLED MADAM CLERK. COUNCIL MEMBER GIVES THOMAS I COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. YES COUNCIL MEMBER STONE BY SMALLER DOLLY HIGH MAYOR CLARKE. I CAN'T VOTE, OKAY? Y'ALL GOT THAT THOSE LISTENERS I RECUSED MYSELF FROM VOTING. ALL RIGHT. WE WAIT FOR THE NEXT ITEM. THAT'S IT. MR. CATHY, ARE YOU NUMBER SIX AS WELL? YEP, I BELIEVE THAT'S[6. Application #ROW-21-085 - A request to vacate a portion of the Village right-of-way along SW 153rd Street northwesterly of SW Monroe Avenue.]
YOU. ITEM NUMBER SIX. IS THAT OUR FEARS RIGHT IT IS. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST OF AK RIGHT AWAY ON ONE 53RD STREET AND, UM. IN SOUTH WEST MONROE STREET. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.YES, YEAH. ME APPLICANT. CASSIDY UH, L C IS REQUESTING THAT THE VILLAGE ABANDONED A PORTION OF THEIR RIGHT AWAY. TO ACCOMMODATE B. PORTIONS OF THEIR BUILDING THAT LIE WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE NEXT SLIDE. APOLOGIZE THAT CAN BARELY SEE IT. BUT. TO ABANDON OUR VACATE A PORTION OF RIGHT AWAY. UH VILLAGE COUNCIL MUST APPROVE IT AND THIS CASE. THE PORTION OF THE RIGHT AWAY THAT'S BEING VACATED OR ABANDONED IS FOUR FT BY 200 FT.
800 SQUARE FEET TOTAL NEXT SLIDE. AT. THAT'S TO MARK THE AREA WHERE THE SLIVER OF RIGHT AWAY IS BEING REQUESTED TO VACATE. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A SLIDE SHOWING THE. UNITS FROM MONROE STREET. I'M 100 AND 53RD, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S ANOTHER. LINE THERE TO SHOW.
WHERE THE RIGHT VACATED RIGHT AWAY WILL OCCUR. IF A PERSON NEXT SLIDE. AVOID IT. UH I APOLOGIZE. I CANNOT. IT'S TOO SMALL FROM MY EYES. UH BASICALLY OUT OF GO AHEAD AND SUMMARIZE THAT THE RIGHT AWAY ABANDONMENT. IS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT. MHM AND I DO HAVE ONE ILLUSTRATION TO SHOW YOU IF IT WAS UNCLEAR. UH TONIGHT WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU.
IF YOU APPROVE THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THEN MINT. ABANDONMENT THAT YOU ALSO. TAKE A LOOK AT THE REVISED SITE PLAN. AT THIS TIME STAFF IS RETRACTING THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE RIB EYE SIGHT PLAN AND WOULD LIKE YOU SIMPLY TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE RIGHT OF WAY ABANDONMENT.
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THE QUESTION IS THERE TO ISSUES GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME? THERE'S JUST THE ONE ISSUE THAT YOU'RE HEARING TONIGHT. OKAY YOU JUST SAID REJECTS SOMETHING. I JUST WHILE WE WERE GOING TO HAVE YOU? TECHNICALLY APPROVED REVISED FLIGHT PLAN ONCE THE ROAD IS TAKEN OUT. CAN I GET A MOTION? IS THE MOTION JUST REGARDING THE RIGHT OF WAY ABANDONMENT. NO. THE GUYS THINK WE SHOULD TALK. WHEN YOU GOT TO GET A MOTION BEFORE YOU CAN DISCUSS IT. THEN WE'LL DISCUSS IT. GIVE ME A MOTION. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION, HUH? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I'M GONNA SECOND IT.I'LL SECOND. OKAY NOW, LET'S DISCUSS IT WHO'S REALLY QUICKLY A CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE JUST THE RIGHT OF WAY OR ALSO, THIS SITE PLAN MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. OKAY? AND I SECOND THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR. YEAH UM, YOU KNOW, UM, LISTENING TO THE PC, A BOARD AND, UH, LISTENING TO THE A UM. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WAS NOT ON US. AND. YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN GETTING ATTACKED HEAVILY FOR IT BEING THE STAFF FAULT, BUT THIS TIME IT WASN'T BUT UM. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER. I THINK WE'RE LOOKING, UM AT A LASTING RELATIONSHIP FIRST. LET ME JUST SAY CONGRATULATIONS. UM I WON'T BE ABLE TO, UH, JOIN YOU FOR THE CELEBRATION. BUT. I KNOW THAT IT WILL HAVE LASTING IMPACT ON THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, AND I HEARD THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO WORK ON THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. UM AND SO. AGAIN UH, WE NEED HOUSING HERE. UH I WANT TO DESPERATELY BUY A HOUSE. I CAN'T BUY A HOUSE BECAUSE THERE IS NO HOUSES, AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW THIS. THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. SO, YOU KNOW, UM. I THINK ALSO, THIS IS WHERE THE LEVEL OF TRUST TAKES PLACE THAT AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD, THINGS ARE CORRECTED.
THINGS ARE ARE HANDLED, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS NOT DONE INTENTIONALLY. IT WAS NOT DONE TO TRY TO GET US OVER. AND I THINK THAT THAT IS THE, UH AND I'M SURE I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM FROM. I'M FROM YOU ALL TONIGHT, BUT I YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, MOMENTS LIKE THIS. WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE NEED WE NEED, UM, HOUSING HERE. WE NEED PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING. AND SO, UM, YEAH I THINK THAT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO IMPROVING TONIGHT.
COUNCIL OF STONE. I MEAN, BEFORE I COMMENT, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS. IF YOU DON'T MIND JUST. OBLITERATE JUST AS FAR AS WHAT THE SITUATION IS. SO THE PUBLIC COULD GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. NO VOTES GOING ON. THEY'RE GOOD EVENING. I'M BETTY LINDSAY. I'M A SURVEYOR. REMEMBER? AND I'M THE REASON THAT WE'RE ALL HERE FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION THIS EVENING. I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO DO WORK FOR THE PSYCHES AND MANY OTHER SURVEYS HERE AND INDIAN TOWN. AND I'M GLAD TO BE A MEMBER OF THE TEAM. AND WE ACTUALLY DID THE ORIGINAL BOUNDARY SURVEY ON THE PARCEL. AND THEN, UNBEKNOWNST TO US, SOMEONE ELSE AT A BOUNDARY SURVEY AND THE PARCEL AND THE FOUR FT WAS DEDICATED.
WE THEN GOT THE JOB TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION STAKING, AND WE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE FOUR FT. WE TOOK THE CAD FILE FROM THE ENGINEER, WHICH WAS AN INCHES. WE CONVERTED IT DEFEAT WE MOVED INTO OUR BOUNDARY LINE. NOT KNOWING ABOUT THE FOREFOOT DEDICATION, AND THEN WE BUILT THE PROJECT. SO. PROJECT GOT BUILT TO THE OLD RIGHT OF WAY AND NOT TO THE NEW RIGHT OF WAY. AND IT WAS. IT WAS AN ERROR THAT WAS CAUSED BY A LACK OF COMMUNICATION AND IT FALLS ON ME. SO. SO THAT'S THE AND WE ARE SO PLEASED THAT YOU ARE ALL LOOKING AT THIS WITH OPEN EYES AND THAT YOU'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO COME TO THIS POSITIVE SOLUTION OF LETTING THIS PROJECT REMAIN CURRENTLY WHERE IT'S LOCATED ON THE GROUND. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MY NAME IS DR RONI. SO HIKE I'M ONE OF THE CO OWNERS IN THE BUILDING OF THE CASTLE BAY APARTMENTS THERE. AND JUST A SUMMARISED AND MAYBE CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT. UH BUT BEFORE I
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ACTUALLY GO TO THAT PORTION OF JUST WANTED TO BRING TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION. THE LITTLE SUMMARY THEY GAVE ON CIVILITY AND COURAGE, ALL OF YOU TO READ IT. IT'S. VERY ILLUMINATING, AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATE WHOEVER WROTE THAT. UH WE ORIGINALLY DEDICATED A FOUR FT WIDE SLIVER OF LAND TO THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN UNDER THE OLD CODE OF MARTIN COUNTY, WHICH REQUIRED. FOR THE CASTLE BE A PROJECT TO BE LESS THAN 0.5 ACRES AND ERROR OCCURRED DUE TO THE SURVEYORS STAKING. THAT CAUSED THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING TO BE OFF BY FOUR FT. THE NEW CODE OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN NO LONGER REQUIRES.THE PROPERTY BE LESS THAN 0.5 ACRES. WE WOULD APPRECIATE THE WORDS OF INDIAN TOWN CONSIDERING ABANDONING THAT SLIVER OF LAND. THE SAME LAND THAT WAS ORIGINALLY GIVEN TO THE VILLAGE BY US AS A SOLUTION TO SOLVE THE ERROR. WE RESPECT TO REALLY MAKE THIS REQUEST.
AND AS THE OWNER. THE SURVEY ERROR WAS NOT OUR FAULT. HOWEVER WE ARE SORRY THAT IT OCCURRED. WHERE FURTHER MORE PLEASED. THAT THE SURVEY ARE BETSY LINDSEY HAS WORKED WITH US TO FIND THE SOLUTION. WE HAVE ENJOYED DEVELOPING WORKING WITH THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN. WE'VE MET A LOT OF PEOPLE. COMMUNITY. AND WE'RE PROUD TO BE WORKING HERE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO MORE FUTURE PROJECTS. UH HUH. WHO ARE DEAR TO OUR HEARTS. THANK YOU ALL.
THANK YOU. ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS. YES, MADAM MAYOR BENITA PRESSLER. HELLO. UM I WAS VERY MUCH BOTHERED BY THIS SITUATION. I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT HAPPENED. AND ONE QUESTION THAT I REALLY I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANSWERED IS IF THERE WAS A STAKING ERROR IF THE SURVEYOR MADE A MISTAKE AND THE VILLAGE IS NOW GOING TO UM, TO BE AGREEABLE. GIVE UP 800 FT. THEY'RE SQUARE FEET. WHAT DID THE VILLAGE GET OUT OF IT? DID THE SURVEYOR PAY A PENALTY OF FINE WAS THERE. WHAT WHAT IS THE EXCHANGE HERE OTHER THAN THE VILLAGE, GIVING UP THE PROPERTY, THE EASEMENT. THANK YOU. IN THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION. I THINK THAT'S A VERY LEGITIMATE QUESTION. YEAH. I KNOW I'M JUST I'M I'M JUST SPEAKING. GIVE ME TIME TO OKAY.
I'M LOOKING TO THE LEFT TO THE RIGHTS OF THE LEFT TO THE RIGHT. COUNCILMAN STONE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I MEAN, THAT MEANS SAID, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THIS. PRESSLER'S CONCERNED BUT ALSO WE HAVE TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW. THAT WAY AND SO HIGH. THEY ARE ONE OF OUR FIRST DEVELOPERS THAT ACTUALLY DID COME INTO TOWN. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT. THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO IMPROVE OUR TOWN AS WELL. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY WE'RE JUST GOING TO GIVE IT FOR FREE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE WE HAVE TO CONSIDER WHAT THEY'RE ALSO ACCOMPLISHED. AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? TELL THEM TO BREAK THAT WHOLE BUILDING DOWN AND START OVER. I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO CONSIDER. YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SOMETHING AS THE COUNCIL WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT. DO WE WANT TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR SOMEONE THAT'S TRYING TO IMPROVE OUR TOWN? OR DO WE WANT TO MAKE IT? WE WANT TO WORK TOGETHER. IN OTHER WORDS. SO THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT ON THAT. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, UM I THINK IT'S A LEGITIMATE QUESTION. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT? YOU KNOW, SHOULD THERE BE A PENALTY? AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO BE ABLE TO SET PRECEDENT. UM BUT WE ALSO WANT TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO COME AND YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE YOU KNOW THE SITUATION THAT LAND UM, BUT, YOU KNOW. WE'RE STILL AS AS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GOT IN HIS SAID. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD. COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN GIVES THOMAS. THANK YOU APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH. UM. AND THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT POINTS. THAT ARE RUNNING THROUGH MY HEAD. I APPRECIATE. MRS PRESSLER AND HER COMMENTS AND SHE HAS A P. C. A BOARD MEMBER. AND THE COMMENT HAS BEEN MADE SEVERAL TIMES BY COUNCIL MEMBER STONE THAT THEY COME TO IMPROVE OUR TOWN AND. AND I HAVE TO SAY
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YES, IT'S APPRECIATED, BUT THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS. THEY'RE HERE TO MAKE MONEY. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE COMING IN AND THEY DO CONTRIBUTE. THEY DO GIVE MONEY, BUT THEY'RE IN BUSINESS.TO MAKE MONEY, SO WHEN THEY COME AND DEVELOP, IT'S FOR A REASON. AND IT'S FOR IT'S TO BE IN BUSINESS, AND I DO NOT. UM I DO. I ENCOURAGE, AND I'M THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE BUSINESS PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO INVEST, BUT THEY DO GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT. IT'S NOT JUST COMING IN AND HELPING US. THEY DO. GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT. UM, AND WHEN THEY WHEN THEY GAVE THAT 800 SQUARE FEET. IT'S NOT LIKE WE ASKED THEM TO. THEY GAVE IT WILLINGLY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP ON THAT PIECE OF LAND BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO. THEY DID NOT KNOW THAT IN THE FUTURE THAT THOSE REGULATIONS WOULD CHANGE. SO NOW IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEN. SO WE ARE STEWARDS FOR THE PEOPLE OF IN INDIA INDIAN IN INDIAN TOWN.
AND THIS IS SETTING PRECEDENTS SO IT. IS CONCERNING THAT IF WE JUST OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A MISTAKE, AND I REALIZE MISTAKES HAPPEN. I GET IT. BUT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS, UM POTENTIALLY. GOING FORWARD COULD BE TROUBLESOME TO US BECAUSE IT DOES SET PRECEDENTS.
IF YOU LOOK AT AND THINK OF PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THE WAY THAT THEY PERCEIVE THIS IT'S TROUBLESOME FOR US. IF YOU LOOK AT BUSINESSES COMING IN. AND THEY'RE THINK. WELL THEY DID IT FOR THEM. WE CAN WORK AROUND THEY'LL DO IT FOR US. AND IF WE IF WE DON'T THEN OKAY, THEN THERE'S A LAWSUIT OR THERE IS OPPORTUNITY. FOR UM, WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES IN ORDER FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE THEIR WAY. AND I'M NOT SAYING ANY OF THAT IS HAPPENING HERE. BUT THIS IS A TROUBLESOME SITUATION THAT. HOW DID IT HAPPEN? I REALIZED THAT IT HAPPENED BUT WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG FOR IT TO COME FORWARD? AND IT WON'T SAY WELL, IT'S NOT ON INDIAN TOWN. IT'S NOT ON OUR. BUT WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG FOR US TO REALIZE IT'S UM. I THINK IT PUTS US IN A VERY BAD SPOT. AND YES, WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME AND DEVELOP.
THAT'S THAT'S. BUT WE DO NOT WANT TO BE TAKEN AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S THE SITUATION, BUT I DON'T WANT US TO BE PERCEIVED AS BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF OR TO JUST ROLL OVER AND WE'LL JUST GIVE IT BACK. BECAUSE IT JUST IT'S TROUBLESOME FOR ME. AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE STAFF COULD SHINE SOME LIGHT. ON ON ANY OF THIS. NO, I DON'T. I. WE DON'T HAVE A RESPONSE FOR THIS. THIS IS YOU. COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ. YES SO I UNDERSTAND EVERYONE.
SOME. CONCERN AND, YOU KNOW ONE OTHER THINGS IS. THE RIGHT AWAY AS GIVING IT BACK. WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY? SPECIFICALLY. THE SIDEWALK THIS YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE SIDEWALK. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. HERE'S WHAT I CAN SAY. WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT 800 OF REAL PROPERTY. IT MAY HAVE A SIDEWALK ON IT MAY HAVE CURB AND GUTTER. I COULDN'T I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. BUT THE APPLICANT. COULD COME IN. DOES DOES ANYONE KNOW? DOES THE APPLICANT NO. THAT DOESN'T SURVEYOR KNOW THAT? TO BE GOOD.
AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS. UM AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, I'M ON MY ASPECT. THIS IS A CASE BY CASE. I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT FOR EVERYONE. IF I DO THIS TONIGHT IT'S NOT. NO, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT. WE'RE NOT DOING THIS FOR EVERYONE. UM SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT IS YOUR PERSPECTIVE, BUT THIS IS ON A CASE BY CASE AND THE OTHER QUESTION I DO HAVE IS. HOW MUCH IS THIS COSTING YOU. LIKE THE BUILDING THE WHOLE. WHEN YOU LATE. FOLLOWING CERTAINLY, OR JUST TOLD. YEAH BUT YOUR VALUE OF YOUR FATS SECTION RIGHT THERE. AT YOUR BUILDING. HOW
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MUCH IS THAT COSTING OR HOW MUCH DOES THAT COST? YET. BILLS. CIVIL CONSTRUCTION. YEAH DOT DOT DOC, IF YOU CAN COME TO THE PODIUM AND SPEAK INTO THIS MICROPHONE PODIUM. FOR MARK.THANK. YOU GET A COST FOR TOTAL PROJECT SO FAR. NUMBER ONE THE YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE THE VILLAGE. OWNED THIS PROPERTY BEFORE SO THE PROPERTY AGAIN WAS REQUIRED TO BE GIVEN, SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GIVING. THAT. WE WERE REQUIRED TO DO THAT. OKAY NO, BASICALLY, WE'RE, UH, REQUESTING FOR THE VILLAGE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT TO GIVE BACK BEING THAT THE L D R S CHANGE. NUMBER TWO. WE DO NOT HAVE ALL THE BILLS THAT HAVE. ACCUMULATED AS A RESULT OF THAT, SO I CAN'T GIVE YOU THAT NUMBER YET. DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE? TO DATE. I THINK WHAT SHE'S IN LAYMAN TERMS. SHE WON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE PROJECT AMOUNT TO THUS FAR? YOU KNOW HOW MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS HAVE YOU HAVE YOU SPENT THE WHOLE THING? YES YEAH, THAT'S WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE LIKE ABOUT, UH AROUND LIKE 1.8 MILLION FOR THE PROJECT. OKAY? THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE MONEY DOWN SO YOU COULD JUST SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IS THAT THERE? THERE WAS A THERE WAS A FORWARD SHIFT OF THE BUILDING AND ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS INTO 153RD. FROM THE ORIGINAL DESIGN BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HAD BEEN A FOUR FT RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION AND SO WE BUILT THE WHOLE PROJECT. BASED ON THE OLD RIGHT AWAY. NOT KNOWING THAT THE FOUR FT HAD BEEN DEDICATED. AND IT WAS NOT. IT WAS NOT MALICIOUS. IT WAS NOT INTENTIONAL. IT WAS SIMPLY THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE FOUR FT, AND WE BUILT IT TO THE BOUNDARY LINE THAT WE KNEW ABOUT. AND SO. THEY HAD DEDICATED TO FOUR FT TO GIVE A SETBACK REQUIREMENT. AND TO MEET MARTIN COUNTY. UM CODE REQUIREMENTS AND THE CODE RICK CHANGED AND SO THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE. THAT YOU GUYS COULD MAKE THE DECISION TO ALLOCATE THE FOUR FT BE RETURNED. THEY'VE BEEN PAYING ALL OF THE FEES. THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS TRANSACTION, AND IT'S NOT COSTING THE TOWN ANYTHING. IT'S ALL BEEN PAID FOR BY BY BUT MY CLIENT AND MYSELF. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN STONE IN THIS ORDER THEN COUNCILWOMAN GIVES AND THEN VICE MAYOR. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK, AND SHE PUT IT IN PRESENTATION MODE SO IT CAN BE BIGGER. COUNCILOR STONE. HMM SO SHE PROBABLY ANSWER THE QUESTION ALREADY JUST NOW, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF BY US DOING THIS. IS IT COSTING US ANYTHING AT ALL? I MEAN, THE ONLY COST THAT WE HAVE INVOLVED IS OUR REGULAR STAFF. TIME WE'D HAVE ANY PROJECT BUT WE HAVE A PAY AS YOU GO SYSTEM. YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT PAYS US TO REVIEW PLANS. AND SO IT'S. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OUT OF POCKET CALLS FOR THIS. SO IT'S NOT COSTING US ANYTHING. NO AND I MEAN, I KNOW I'VE PAID $6000 FOR IT SO FAR, SO THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN GIVES THOMAS. AND I APPRECIATE THAT, UM. THERE'S THOSE SENTIMENTS AND THOSE THOUGHTS, BUT REALITY IS NOTHING WAS REQUIRED. MY UNDERSTANDING IS IN ORDER TO IN ORDER TO BUILD.
THE DEVELOPER CHOSE A WORK AROUND AND SAID WE WILL GO AHEAD AND. AND DEED TO YOU THIS MUCH LAND SO WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD. IT WASN'T REQUIRED. IT WAS A CHOICE. OKAY IN ORDER TO DO IT. UM AND AS FAR AS IT NOT COSTING US ANYTHING. IT IS IT IS. IT IS COSTING US THAT 800 SQUARE FEET. IT WAS GIVEN TO US FREELY AND WE CHOSE TO ACCEPT IT FREELY. IN OUR IGNORANCE. WE YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT ALL THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN UM AND WE ARE STEWARDS OF THE LAND FOR THE PEOPLE OF INDIAN TOWN. SO THAT WAS A PART OF WHAT WAS. FOR THE PEOPLE OF INDIAN TOWN, AND, YEAH, IT MAY BE A GUTTER OR THE END OF THE BUT IT WAS DONE. IT. IT WAS NOT REQUIRED.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. YEAH YOU GOTTA GET YOUR FORM AND THEN AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT TO THE CLERK, PLEASE.
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OMAR OUTWEIGH? YES. YOU CAN RAISE IT UP. OMAR YOU CAN RAISE IT UP. YEAH, MR GIBBS, ONE ANSWER. YOU'RE CONCERNED. IT WAS NOT A MATTER OF CHOICE. MARTIN COUNTY. DICTATE THAT I HAVE TO GIVE. 800 FT FROM MY LAND TO DEVELOP THAT 10 UNITS, APARTMENTS. YOU SAID. IT'S A MATTER OF CHOICE. AND WE'RE NOT A MATTER OF CHOICE. NOT LIKE I COULD HAVE DEVELOPED WITHOUT GIVING UP THAT LAND BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE UNDER HALF AN ACRE. THAT WAS A CODE UNDER MARTIN COUNTY. THAT'S A HOSTILE CODE. SO WHEN YOU GUYS REALIZED THE HOSTILITY OF THESE CODES, THEY WERE CHANGED. SO IT WAS NOT A MATTER OF CHOICE. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN GIVES THOMAS AND WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON THAT. I WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON THAT. WE DID NOT REQUIRE YOU TO DO THAT IN ORDER TO DEVELOP YOU WANTED TO DEVELOP. SO THAT WAS THE CHOICE THAT YOU MADE TO GIVE IT UP IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THAT. AND IT'S IN THE FEELING IS MUTUAL. I APPRECIATE YOU, BUT FROM FROM WHERE I'M STANDING WITH THE PEOPLE OF INDIAN TECH MAYOR ORDER COUNCIL WOMAN, UH HERNANDEZ. SO JUST TOO I THINK. I AM HEARING THE CONSENSUS, PROBABLY A PENALTY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT CAN BE, MISS JEFFERSON, UM IN REGARDS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW. WE KNOW DEVELOPMENTS GOING TO COME INTO ANY IN TOWN AND WE DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN AGAIN. AND I'M ONE OF THOSE THAT I'M TELLING YOU. SANDY OAKS. I LIVE IN FRONT OF IT. AND I HAVE TO LIVE FOR THE LAST. WHAT. PROBABLY 10 11 YEARS IT'S BEEN THERE. I'VE HAD TO LIVE THROUGH IT. AND HOW. IT WASN'T BUILT CORRECTLY. UM AND SO I DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. IN THE FUTURE. I KNOW THIS IS NOT STAFF MISTAKE, BUT BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO CLARIFY TO DEVELOPERS THAT THEY NEED TO CONTRACT. UM. THEY'RE SURVEYORS AND THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THEY HAVE TO EYES ON EVERYTHING. UM BECAUSE THIS CANNOT HAPPEN AGAIN. UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT PENALTY. UM JUST A SMALL PENALTY IN REGARDS OF SOMETHING.UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY. ANY DEBATE ON ANYTHING ELSE, BUT THAT'S IT. YES. MAD MAX IS OKAY, SO I UNDERSTAND ALL PARTIES. ISSUES HERE. YOU KNOW THIS PENALTY I DON'T BELIEVE WILL BE PROPER FOR US TO DO THAT, AND I WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD RIGHT NOW. UM, UH, DEVOTE BEFORE YOU WOULD BE TO DENY OR PROVE IT. UH YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES WELL, SO LISTEN. WE'RE NOT HERE TO HAND IT. OR YOU KNOW, I'M GO AHEAD. WAIT. YES.
NO, I WAS JUST HOWARD BEAT ME TO IT. UM IN IN MATTERS AND DECISIONS LIKE THIS IN IN LAND USE DECISIONS. GENERALLY IT IS, THERE'S REALLY NOT AN OPTION WHERE YOU ASSESS A FINANCIAL PENALTY. FOR SOMEBODY TO GET OUT OF THE DOGHOUSE. OKAY, THIS IS A HIGH STAKES GAME. FOR ANY DEVELOPED. ALL RIGHT. WE COULD BE IN A SITUATION HERE TONIGHT. IF THAT HADN'T BEEN FOUR FT THAT JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS WEIRD CIRCUMSTANCE. AND I CAN TELL YOU STAFF WOULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT IT BE GIVEN BACK. THEY'D BE IN A LOT WORSE SITUATION, OKAY? UM AND IT IS, OF COURSE, WITH IT COMPLETELY WITHIN YOUR AUTHORITY. TO DECIDE. NOT THE VACATED. AND THAT WOULD BE. AN INCREDIBLY STRONG PUNISHMENT.
UM I WILL TELL YOU, THOUGH, A FINANCIAL PENALTY IS SIMPLY NOT ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT LAND USE LAW REALLY GIVES US. OKAY WITH ALL THE COUNCIL IN THE COMMENTS WERE HERE TO HELP. WE KNOW THAT ANY TOWN IS GOING TO GROW REGARDLESS, WHAT IS GOING ON? THINGS HAPPENED. WE'RE STILL BUILDING THEIR TO MOST NEWEST DEVELOPMENTS SINCE WE GOT INCORPORATED. THAT I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN HERNDON HERNANDEZ. LET'S TAKE IT CASE BY CASE BECAUSE EVERY CASE IS
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DIFFERENT. BUT FOR NOT ONLY THEM OTHER PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESSES THAT HERE THESE PEOPLE HAVE SPENT ALL THEIR MONEY. SO PUT YOURSELF IN THEIR SHOES. IF WE DON'T GIVE THEM 800 FT FOR THEM TO TEAR IT DOWN. I DON'T THINK NOTHING WAS DONE ON PURPOSE. AND I'M READY TO VOTE. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC ACCOUNT COMMENTS? YES, SIR. I'M SORRY. JUST ONE LAST COMMENT THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION. THAT MICHAEL? YEAH THE CODE WAS CHANGED WHILE WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF DEVELOPMENT, SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAD TIME TO SHIFT. ALL THESE ADJUSTMENTS WERE MADE. WHILE WE WERE ALREADY IN CONSTRUCTION. CORRECT. MAYOR. SO EVERYBODY HAS SPOKEN. WAIT YES. WAIT. MADAM MAYOR I WANTED. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION ONE THING, REALLY, FOR THE RECORD FOR THE FUTURE FOR DEVELOPERS IN THE ROOM AND OTHER DEVELOPERS. THE ISSUE THAT COUNCILWOMAN GIVES THOMAS IS BROUGHT UP. HE IS A VERY IMPORTANT ONE, OKAY? AND THAT IS SHE MENTIONED THE CONCERN ABOUT PRECEDENT, OKAY? I WOULD RE CHARACTERIZE IT AS THE MESSAGE YOU SEND TO DEVELOPERS. OKAY, SO I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY TALKING ABOUT. WANT TO HAVE A PENALTY GOING TO MAKE SURE THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE THAT THIS IS THAT THAT THE VILLAGE GOING FORWARD IS GOING TO HOLD TO A HIGHER STANDARD. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR ANYBODY IN THE FUTURE THINKING ABOUT THIS AND SEEING THIS AS I MENTIONED BEFORE. THIS WAS A UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE IT HAPPENED TO BE. THERE WAS FOUR FT. GIVEN BECAUSE OF A PARTICULAR SITUATION UNDER THE MARTIN COUNTY CODE. IT IS NOT TELLING.ANY DEVELOPER IN THE ROOM OR OTHERWISE. THAT. THE COUNCIL OR STAFF ARE GOING TO TOLERATE DEVIATIONS FROM THE VILLAGE CODE. SO I JUST AGAIN. WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. SO IF ANYBODY EVER HEARD IT OVER TO PERCEIVE OTHERWISE WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT IS GREAT. SO FROM MOVING FORWARD, EVERYTHING NEED TO COME FROM THE P C. A PRIOR TO IT, GETTING TO US. WHICH THIS WAS IN THE CHANGING OF THE GUARD. AND I DON'T THINK, UH, THAT APPROVING THIS WORLD. THANK SOMEBODY WOULD THINK LESS OF US GOING TO WITH THE PROJECTS THAT'S COMING FORWARD BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.
REGARDLESS WHICH LENDS EACH COUNCIL IS LOOKING OUT OF, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S GOING TO LIE WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PC ABOARD AND ITS STAFF MOVING FORWARD FOR NO ACCIDENTS LIKE THIS TO HAPPEN, BUT EVERYBODY'S HUMAN. READY FOR VOTE. WITH THE, UH WITH APPROVAL. ABDUCTION TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. IT'S BEEN A SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER GIVES THOMAS. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ YES. COUNCIL MEMBER STONE. YEAH. VICE MAYOR, DARLING. HI MAYOR CLARK YES. WHERE WE AT?
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RESOLUTION NO. XXX-2021: A RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF AN APPLICATION UNDER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT – CV (CDBG-CV) PROGRAM TO PREPARE FOR, PREVENT OR RESPOND TO THE HEALTH IMPACTS OF THE CORONA VIRUS (COVID 19) PANDEMIC FOR THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN. THE APPLICATION IS BEING SUBMITTED TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY (DEO).
]AH, REMEMBER SEVEN VILLAGE ATTORNEY NUMBER SEVEN THANK YOU, MAYOR. RESOLUTION OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF AN APPLICATION UNDER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK. GRANT CV CDBG CV PROGRAM TO PREPARE FOR PREVENT OR RESPOND TO THE HEALTH IMPACTS OF THE CORONAVIRUS COVID 19 PANDEMIC FOR THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN.THE APPLICATION IS BEING SUBMITTED TO FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. AND WE HAVE MR FOX HERE THAT WILL GIVE YOU A PRESENT THREE PRESENTATION, MR FOX. GOOD EVENING. YEAH. THANK YOU GOT THERE YOU GO. YEAH THIS IS BASICALLY, UH, APPLICATION FOR THAT. THAT'S DUE ON MONDAY. THE JUMP TO THE SECOND PAGE. THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS APPROPRIATED NEARLY $42 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR SMALLS FOR SMALL CITIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
THE MINIMUM AWARD IS $200,000 PER APPLICANT. APPLICATION. THE MAXIMUM WARD IT'S FIVE MILLION.
THERE IS NO MATCH REQUIREMENTS AND. THE VILLAGE COULD ONLY PUT IN ONE APPLICATION FOR A SINGLE PROJECT OR PROGRAM. UH, JUMP DOWN A COUPLE OF SLIDES IF YOU WOULD. JUST A MOMENT. I THINK
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I'VE GOT THE HEAD OF YOU. UH, VILLAGE IS PROPOSING TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT. OF YOU CONNECT. OKAY I JUST READ THAT GOING DOWN A LITTLE MORE ONE. YEAH THERE YOU GO. WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. THE VILLAGE IS PROPOSING TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. WHICH IS THE EO. FOR FUNDING TO CREATE A PEDESTRIAN AND SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN. THAT WILL SET STANDARDS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE EIGHT FT CONCRETE WALL PORT SIDEWALKS. AND 10 FT WIDE, MULTI PURPOSE PASS. THE PLAN WILL ENSURE 88 ACCESSIBILITY. AND WE'LL INCORPORATE STANDARDS THAT ARE NECESSARY. SOCIAL DISTANCING, AND BASICALLY, IT'S JUST THE SAME REQUIRED FOR COVID. THE MASTER PLAN WILL PROVIDE GUIDANCE FOR IMPROVEMENTS. TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CONNECTS PREDOMINANTLY LOW TO MODERATE INCOME RESIDENTS. RESIDENTIAL AREAS. TWO PUBLIC PARKS, THE VILLAGE HALL IT UNDER GOVERNMENT FACILITIES. AND TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES. THE VILLAGE IS HOLDING THIS SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR PUBLIC INPUT INTO THE PROJECT. NEXT SLIDE. UH PROBABLY DEVELOP A PROJECT IS TO DEVELOP A PEDESTRIAN. INSIDE WALK MASTER PLAN. THAT ADDRESS IS COMPLETE STREET DESIGNED TO MEET THE NEW DEMAND. FROM INDIA CAN RESIDENTS CREATING SAFE SPACES FOR RESIDENTS TO WALK, RUN BIKE AND GET AROUND. WHILE MAINTAINING SOCIAL DISTANCING THE BUDGET FOR THE PROJECT. IS $315,000 FOR THE PLAN. AND $27,380.03 27,390. FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE GRANT, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE A FEE. FOR THE ADVERTISING TO BRING THE ADMINISTRATOR AND THE PLANNER ON BOARD. BASICALLY THE VILLAGE. ADVERTISED AND HELD A FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. JUMP TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I'M SORRY. YEAH THE VILLAGE ADVERTISED AND HELD A FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. TO OBTAIN PUBLIC COMMENT ON PROPOSED PROJECTS. OBTAINED VILLAGE COUNCIL APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSED APPLICATION PROJECT. AND THE VILLAGE HELD THAT FIRST PRODUCT HEARING ON MARCH. 11 2021.WHICH WAS DURING THE PRE APPLICATION CYCLE, AND THEN TONIGHT THE VILLAGERS ADVERTISING AND HOLDING A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING. TO PRESENT THE PROPOSED APPLICATION ENTERTAINED PUBLIC COMMENT. I ONLY PROPOSED TO APPLICATION. OBTAINED VILLAGE COUNCIL APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A. SUBMIT WITH SOME MIDDLE OF THE APPLE PROPOSED APPLICATION. AND IF THERE'S A STORY BASED UPON THE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND IN THE.
COUNCIL DIRECTION WE WOULD REVISE THE APPLICATION IN RESPONSE TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. AND THE APPLICATION IS DOING THE EO BY FIVE PM ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 1ST, WHICH IS NEXT MONDAY. UH WITH THAT. I'D LIKE TO HAVE OPEN THE FLOOR, PUBLIC COMMENT OR HAVE THE VILLAGE. COUNCIL OPENED THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU.DISCUSSION BY COUNSEL. IN TE COUNCIL DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN STONE. YEAH, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. SO THEY'RE 27.
27 3 90. IS THAT BASICALLY SOMETHING WE PAY UP FRONT OR IS THAT IF WE GET THE GRANT THAT BASICALLY. IF YOU'RE FUNDED, YOU WOULD ADVERTISE FOR PROJECT ADMINISTRATOR HOPEFULLY SELECT US BUT YOU SELECT WHOEVER YOU WANT TO SELECT. YOU KNOW, UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO SELECT US AND A PORTION OF THAT WOULD BE FOR THE ADVERTISING. FOR THE ADMINISTRATOR AND ALSO THE ADVERTISING FOR THE PLANNER. UM. AND THEN IT WOULD CAST ITUDE BASICALLY MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. FOR THE CDBG PROGRAM, WHICH IS A FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAM. OKAY, THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN. HERNANDEZ MR. FOX UM, ANOTHER QUESTION. BECAUSE THEIR SIDEWALKS AROUND HERE THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY PUT THEM THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. WOULD THIS ANALYZE THAT? YEAH, THE PLANNER WOULD BE CHARGED AND THEN THAT WOULDN'T BE US. THAT WOULD BE SOMEONE THAT'S IN THE PLANNING PROFESSION. UH WITH THE SIDEWALK PLAN THAT COULD INCLUDE NEW SIDEWALKS AND ALSO RELOCATING, INSISTING SIDEWALKS. IF THE COUNCIL FELT
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THEY WERE NOT IN THE PROPER LOCATION. OKAY BUT IT IS STRICTLY FOR PLANNING THIS.THIS IS NOT MEANT TO ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT ANY NEW SIDEWALKS BUT LIKE TO ANALYZE BRUSH WOULD BE.
UH SO IT WOULD BE ANALYZING IF THERE'S EXISTING SIDEWALKS THAT ARE NOT IN THE CORRECT LOCATION. AND PROPOSING A LOCATION TO RELOCATE THEM TO AND ALSO TO PUT IN NEW SIDEWALKS WHERE THERE AREN'T ANY. OKAY? THANK YOU. UM, THIS IS THE MAYOR, MR FOX. WHAT WAS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THIS GRANT WE'RE APPLYING FOR. YOU'RE APPLYING THE NUMBER WE HAVE IS $342,390. THANK YOU. ANY MORE DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WAIT. I'M SORRY. UM, MR WOMAN, HANDAN IS MR FOX AND THIS IS YOU SAID IF ONE PER YEAR SO THIS FALLS IN WHAT FISCAL YEAR? THIS IS COMING OUT OF THE CARES, ACT LEAST THIS FUNDING. SO THIS IS GONNA BE A ONE TIME THING. YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR SMALL CITY CITY BEACH HERE. ANNUALLY EXCEPT IF YOU HAVE AN OPEN GRANT, AND YOU JUST RECEIVED A SMALL CITY CDBG GRANT A FEW MONTHS AGO. THIS IS A SPECIAL CYCLE. THAT IS STRICTLY FOR COVID RELIEF. AND THE REASON THE PLANNING FOR THE SIDEWALKS WAS ELIGIBLE. IS THAT THE SIDEWALKS THAT OUR PLAN WOULD BE AT LEAST SIX FT WIDE. WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR PEOPLE TO SOCIALLY DISTANCE WHILE THEY WERE MOVING DOWN THE SIDEWALK. OKAY? COUNCILWOMAN GIVES THOMAS. THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE A COMMENT. I KNOW AND SPEAKING WITH THE VILLAGE MANAGER. THIS IS DEFINITELY A THING THAT IS NEEDED BECAUSE. UH THE MARTIN COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT. WILL NOT BUS WITHIN IF SOMEBODY LIVES WITHIN TWO MILES. SO WE DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS FOR CHILDREN. THAT HAVE TO WALK TO KINDERGARTNERS THAT HAVE TO WALK TO WAR FIELD ELEMENTARY OR MIDDLE SCHOOLERS THAT HAVE TO WALK TO AMERICAN STREET BECAUSE THERE'S NO SIDEWALK AT THE VERY BACK THERE. SO THIS IS SOMETHING IS DEFINITELY NEEDED FOR OUR RESIDENTS CORRECT. ANYMORE. COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, WE NEED A PARTICULAR. JUST HAD A QUESTION THAT I WANT TO KNOW IF THE GRANT INCLUDED LANDSCAPING GRASS ALONG THE ALONG THE SIDEWALKS. ANY KIND OF LANDSCAPING MON BOTH SIDES QUESTION AGAIN. THE GRANT IS WHAT WE DO KNOW, PHYSICAL INSTALLATION. IT WAS JUST SORT OF STATE WHERE THE SIDEWALKS COULD GO. IT MAY HAVE. YOU KNOW, STUMBLING REGULATIONS, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE TOWN WANTS TO INCORPORATE IN THE PLAN. REQUIRING BEAUTIFICATION OF SIDEWALKS ARE INSTALLED, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE A COMPONENT OF THE PLAN AS IT IS BEING DEVELOPED. ANIMAL COMMENTS CLERK. NO, MADAM MAYOR. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCILOR BEGINS THOMAS. HELP REMEMBER HERNANDEZ? YES COUNCIL MEMBER STONE? YES I ASPIRE. DOWLING. MAYOR CLARK? YES? ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. THAT YOU, MR BROWN? UH IT'LL BE
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Approval of Contract with Kimley Horn in the Amount of $717,324.00 for the Design, Permitting and Bid Services for the Indiantown Water Treatment Plant SRF Improvements
]IT'LL BE STAFF MAYOR. UH, NUMBER EIGHT, IS APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT WITH KIM LEE HORN IN THE AMOUNT OF 717,324. FOR THE DESIGN PERMITTING AND BID SERVICES FOR THE INDIAN TOWN WATER TREATMENT PLANT. AND SORRY IF IMPROVEMENTS, MR BILL ARCHER BILLS HERE AND DANIEL MAKE ROCK CONSULTANTS. GOOD EVENING I ALSO HAVE MR NICK BLACK WITH KIM LEE HORN IN THE AUDIENCE. IF WE HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, UM. AS YOU'RE AWARE THE VILLAGE HAS BEGUN AN AGGRESSIVE PROGRAM WITH STATE REVOLVING FUN TO ENHANCE WATER QUALITY TREATMENT AT THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. AS A COMPONENT OF THAT WE RETAIN KIM LEE HORN AS OUR WATER TREATMENT CONSULTANT, AND THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING TO PREPARE THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN REPORT THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED. WE HAVE RECENTLY APPROVED THE DRAFT OF THE FINAL DRAFT OF THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN REPORT. THE INFORMATION HAS BEEN SENT TO MR MAGRO MOVING FORWARD TO, UM SUBMIT FOR SRF FUNDING FOR CONSTRUCTION. BUT WE ALSO HAVE PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED FUNDS FOR DESIGN OF THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. AND THAT IS WHAT THIS CONTRACT APPROVAL IS REQUESTING.UH WE REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT WITH KIMBERLY HORN FOR DESIGN OF OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,717,324. THIS DESIGN REFLECTS THE INFORMATION THAT WAS. OUTLINED AND WORKED WITH STAFF. UM AND THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN REPORT, AND
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AS I INDICATED IT IS FUNDED THROUGH THE SRF. MR MAGARA WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INPUT AS FAR AS THE FUNDING. CAN I GET HIM OFF? HELLO? GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. GREAT THANK YOU, BILL. UM YEAH, THIS IS DANIEL MAGALLANES LIKE BILL SAID. THIS IS THE, UH, JUST ANOTHER STEP, UH, IN THE PROCESS TO IMPROVE THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. THE SRF LOAN THAT VILLAGE OBTAINED A FEW MONTHS AGO FOR THE WATER SYSTEM, WHICH WAS THE LOAN THE AMOUNT OF 1.1 MILLION. UM. $1.147 MILLION FOR THE DESIGN. INCORPORATE THIS. UM PROPOSAL THAT CANDY CORN IS, UH, SUBMITTING TO THE VILLAGE, SO IT'S ALL WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT WAS MADE IT TO THE SRF. IT'S HOLDING POLLUTER IN THAT LOAN THAT THE VILLAGE IS APPROVED FOR. AND WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FINAL DESIGN OF THE WATER PLANT. MOTION. SOME MOVE FOR APPROVAL. COUNCILMAN DOWLING THANK YOU. IT WAS THE SECOND STONE. THANK YOU. OPEN FOR DISCUSSION BY COUNSEL. COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ. WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP AFTER THIS? YEAH. MR ARE TRIBAL OR MR MARLBORO CAN EXPLAIN. PIECED UH ARE YOU SPEAKING FROM A DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT OR FROM A FINANCING STANDPOINT, AS IN THE SO WE APPROVE THIS AND WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? WHEN SHOULD WE EXPECT ALL THIS WORK TO BE DONE? PROBABLY. I BELIEVE KIM LEE HORN HAS UNTIL JUNE OF NEXT YEAR TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN FOR THE TREATMENT PLANT. AND THEN THAT DESIGN GOES FORWARD TO MR MAGRO FORCE THE MIDDLE FOR THE AUGUST SRF FUNDING CYCLE FOR CONSTRUCTION FUNDING. DANIEL. CORRECT ME IF I WAS WRONG ON DATES. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE SHOULD BE SEEN CONSTRUCTION. PROBABLY LATE NEXT YEAR. NO UH, NO, MA'AM, WE WOULD BE SUBMITTING FOR CONSTRUCTION FUNDING. DANIEL YOU WOULD HAVE TO LET ME KNOW AS FAR AS WHEN WE WOULD KNOW ON THE CYCLE. YEAH SO WE WERE TARGETING THE AUGUST UH, 2022 FUNDING HEARING FOR CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS. UM ASSUMING THAT'S OBTAINED, THEN WE WOULD IMMEDIATELY BEGIN TO BIDDING PROCESS AND FOLLOWED BY CONSTRUCTION SO MOST LIKELY CONSTRUCTION. WOULDN'T START UNTIL SOMETIME IN 2023. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION. ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS MATTER. MAYOR CALLED POLICE COUNCIL MEMBER GIVES THOMAS ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ YES. COUNCIL MEMBER STONE? YES.BRYCE MEYER, DARLING. MARRIAGE. CLARK. YES. ITEM NUMBER. NINE UH, VILLAGE ATTORNEY. THANK
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ORDINANCE NO. XX-2021: AN ORDINANCE OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL OF THE VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE VILLAGE ZONING MAP FROM DOWNTOWN TO VILLAGE MIXED-USE FOR THE 6.58 ACRE PARCEL GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WARFIELD BOULEVARD, EAST OF INDIANWOOD DRIVE, AS LEGALLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT “A”; AND PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS, CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. (Quasi-Judicial)
]YOU. YES. WHERE. IT'S OVER TIME. YEAH WE'RE GOING TO TURN CONTROL OVER TO ME. WE'RE GOING TO RUN OVER A COUPLE MINUTES AND THEN KICK OVER TO THE NEXT STOP IT AND THEN PICK IT UP AT THE VERY END. YEAH WE TECHNICALLY FROM FROM A TECHNICAL FROM A FROM A TECHNOLOGICAL STANDPOINT, WE CHECKED ON THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK APPARENTLY. THANK YOU.MAYOR. AN ORDINANCE OF THE VILLAGE COUNCIL, THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE VILLAGE ZONING MAP FROM DOWNTOWN TO VILLAGE MIXED USE FOR THE 6.58 ACRE PARCEL, GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WAR FIELD BOULEVARD EAST OF INDIAN TOWN DRIVE, AS LEGALLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT A. AND PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DAY. MADAM MAYOR AND BUILDING A COUNCIL. AS YOU RECALL, WE ADOPTED OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND NEWS ON THE MAP. NOVEMBER 12 LAST YEAR. AND SINCE THAT TIME WE'VE NOT HAD ANY REQUESTS FOR REZONING UNTIL NOW. AND IN THIS CASE, THE ZONING THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE SO THERE WOULD BE NO NEED TO CHANGE THAT NOW. IT'S 6.5 ACRE PARCEL. IT IS VACANT AND THEY'RE REQUESTING TO RESOUND THE PROPERTY FROM DOWNTOWN TO VILLAGE. MIXED USE NEXT SLIDE. HERE'S THE LOCATION OF THE
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PROPERTY. IT'S RIGHT OFF OF, UH, WARFIELD BOULEVARD. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE EXISTING ZANNI MAP WITH THE PINK, THE HEART PINK BEING DOWNTOWN AND THE LILAC BEING VILLAGE. NEXT USE NEXT SLIDE. IF YOU SHOULD DECIDE TO APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING AND SCHEDULE A SECOND READING. UPON ADOPTION. YOUR NEWS ON THE MAP WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS. THE CHIP CAN SEE CURRENTLY THE. SUBJECT SITE IS SURROUNDED BY LIKE USES OR I'M SORRY STONINGS, AND IT IS COMPATIBLE AND STAFF'S OPINION NEXT SLIDE. SO THE DOWNTOWN ZONING DISTRICT PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE A DENSE, MIXED USE AND WALKABLE DISTRICT TO SERVE BUSINESSES AND CULTURAL. SERVICES AND THEN THE DOWNTOWN ALLOWS FOR LIMITED INDUSTRIAL AND YOU TELL THE USES AND MORE RESIDENTIAL ENLARGING. THE APPLICANT IS INTERESTED IN EXPANDING THE EXTENT OF THE TYPE OF USES FOR THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL. NEXT SLIDE. WITH REGARD TO THE APPROVAL OF VALUATION CRITERIA. THE CRITERIA IS AS FOLLOWS THAT WAS PROPOSED RESIGNING HAS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES. AND IT HAS TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREAS SURROUNDING ZONING DESIGNATION, WHICH IT IS. AND PHYSICALLY SUITABLE FOR THE USE IS PERMITTED WITHIN THE PROPOSED DISTRICT. AND ALL OF THE ABOVE. STAFF HAS DETERMINED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPLAINTS SURROUNDING USES AND COMPATIBILITY. NEXT SLIDE. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY RECOMMENDED THE VILLAGE COUNCIL APPROVED THE APPLICATION. ON OCTOBER 7TH. THEIR LAST MEETING OF 2021 TONIGHT, THE VILLAGE COUNCIL MUST APPROVE OR DENY OR PROVE WITH CONDITIONS. THIS PARTICULAR ZONING AND. THE RELATED ORDINANCE IN SCHEDULE, A SECOND READING FOR NOVEMBER, 18TH. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? SOME OF THE SECOND IN A DISCUSSION BY THE COUNCIL.SUSAN GIVES THOMAS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, UM. SO IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE EXISTING ZONING MAP.
ONE MORE. THERE YOU GO. TOO FAR. PRETTY WORTH. YEAH PRETTY ONE. UM SO IN LOOKING AT THIS, THE FOR ME THE PHYSICAL DEFINE DEFINING OF THAT AREA. IS THAT ROLAND CANAL RIGHT THERE. YOU HAVE THE ROLLING CANAL THAT IS THE BREAK BETWEEN DOWNTOWN. AND THEN THE. OTHER ZONING. THAT'S THE LIGHT PINK CORRECT. OKAY? SO. WE HAVE IN MY AND MY THINKING IS. OKAY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO IS THAT THE LIGHT PINK IS WHAT IS THAT? IT'S NOT DOWNTOWN.
VILLAGE MIXED USE ALLOWS FOR MORE COMMERCIAL. MORE COMMERCIAL, SO. BY ALLOWING THAT COMMERCIAL TO ENCROACH ON WHAT WE HAVE DETERMINED IS DOWNTOWN. UM. IT JUST WE'RE SETTING PRECEDENTS HERE. THE WAY THAT I LOOK AT THIS. IT WAS DEFINED DOWNTOWN IN ORDER TO KEEP IT. MORE ATTRACTIVE IN ORDER TO KEEP THAT AREA UM, DOWNTOWN USE. AND THEN YOU HAVE THAT ROLE IN CANAL AND THEN YOU GO TO YOUR YOUR OTHER. I AM. ONCE AGAIN. WE'RE SETTING PRECEDENTS HERE WE HAVE, AND WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS FOR THEM THEN. OKAY, WHAT'S THE NEXT ONE OVER? WELL WE DID IT FOR THEM, AND I KNOW IT'S A CASE BY CASE. BUT THEN SOONER OR LATER SOMEBODY IS GOING TO SAY WELL, YOU DID IT FOR THEM, AND YOU DIDN'T DO IT FOR US. I THINK WE DID THIS FOR A REASON. I DON'T KNOW THAT PUTTING MORE COMMERCIAL USE INTO THAT DOWNTOWN REGION IS A THERE'S A, UM YES. COMPATIBLE. THANK YOU. ANY MORE DISCUSSION. COUNCILMAN STONE. OF WHAT'S THE FUTURE LAND LINE. YOU SOME FOR THAT PARCEL. THE FUTURE LAND USE IS
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I BELIEVE IT'S VILLAGE CORE. YEAH. VILLAGE CORE. I THINK SO, TOO. COLLEGE CORE UNTIL I CAN GET TO MY NOTES. OH, IT'S. FOR OKAY. VILLAGE, CORA. SO WILL IT MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS FOR FUTURE LAND USE? IF WE DO DECIDE TO AFFIRM IT TONIGHT. RIGHT THE FUTURE LAND USE, UH, THAT'S DESIGNATED TO THAT PARCEL. IS COMPATIBLE WHILE THE ZONING OF DOWNTOWN AND VILLAGE MIXED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE. SO EITHER COULD BE DESIGNATED FOR THAT FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY. OKAY ONE PURSUANT TO OUR CODE AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. ONE MORE QUESTION. DO WE HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? JUST FOUR AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT THEIR. RIGHT NOW, THE APPLICANT IS NOT BRINGING FORTH A SITE PLAN FOR APPROVAL. MERELY TRYING TO EXPAND THE INTENSITY OF THE COMMERCIAL USES THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED. THANK YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCIL AND.COUNCILWOMAN HERNANDEZ. IS THERE ANY LIKE VILLAGE HORN, NOT VILLAGE CORE, BUT UM OKAY? THE PINK THE HOT PINK. YEAH, THE DOWNTOWN AND THE. MIXED VIEWS. WHAT MORE CAN YOU CAN YOU DO? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? THERE ARE CERTAIN USES, FOR EXAMPLE, A GAS STATION, UM MORE INTENSE, USES LARGER RETAIL. AND THE DOWNTOWN IS MORE LIKE IT ALSO INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL RIGHT. YES BOTH DISTRICTS DO. UH WELL, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT SABIHA AND THE PLAZA WITH THE DUNKIN DONUTS THAT'S THE SCALE OF. RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL YOU'LL SEE IN DOWNTOWN. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM APPROVING IT, BUT I NEED SOME OF MEAT. I JUST CAN'T GO BLIND BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S GONNA PUT. IN THAT PLACE, AT LEAST SOMETHING HE GOT TO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT HE'S GONNA DO. WE CAN JUST HAVE THE APPLICANT COME UP, AND I WOULD LIKE THAT. JOHN LEONARD.
THANK YOU, MR LEONARD SERVICE. UM. DEFINITELY THE DOWNTOWN HAVING RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL UPFRONT. THIS PARCEL HERE WITH THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ON ONE SIDE. AND THEN THE ENTRANCE TO THE LARGEST DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL EVER HAPPEN IN THE IN TOWN. I DON'T FEEL AS CONDUCIVE. THAT'S WHY I WENT IN FOR A CHANGE. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE NATIONAL TENANT. WHICH I WON'T DISCLOSE AND BEEN WORKING WITH THEM FOR A FEW YEARS. AND SO I'M TRYING TO GET THEM IN. AND I THINK THE TIMING IS RIGHT WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET GOING ON. THE DOWNTOWN USE WOULD NOT PERMIT THEM. THEY GO ON THIS SITE.
SORT OF BEING OKAY. COMBINATION COULD BE A COMBINATION OF RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL. I DON'T THINK THIS IS. THE RESIDENTIAL SO OKAY? I MEAN, YOU HAVE GOOD YEAR WE HAVE THE DOORS OPEN.
YOU HAVE THE REAL THING WRONG. YOU'VE GOT ON THE OTHER SIDE. IT'S THERE. NOBODY HUNTS HER THERAPY. WITH THE TRAIN TRACKS RIGHT THERE. BUT BUT THANK YOU. OKAY, AND THE DISCUSSION AND MORE DISCUSSION BY COUNSEL. YES I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE ATTORNEY. WAIT. IS THIS ALSO SETTING PRECEDENT? IS THIS NORMAL AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. SO EVERY REZONING IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES OF QUASI JUDICIAL DECISION YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE DECISION BASED ON. THE LAW. THAT'S BEFORE YOU ARE CODE AND OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE FACTS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU AND IN PARTICULAR. UM USES THAT ARE THERE. THE FINDINGS HAVE BEEN MADE BY YOUR PLANNER AND ANY OTHER FACTS THAT MAY BE ADDUCED BY ANYBODY ELSE. SO. UM UH, I WILL NOT DENY THAT. I'VE CERTAINLY SEEN ZONING CREEP WHERE ZONING WILL WILL CHANGE AS YOU MOVE FROM AREA TO AREA
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AND SO ON. BUT THAT IS ULTIMATELY WITHIN. THE AUTHORITY OF THE PLANNING. UH P.C A BOARD AND THEN THE COUNCIL TO MANAGE THAT. SO CORRECT AND MISS MISS JEFFERSON WE ARE IN, YOU KNOW, AND THE GUIDELINES. OF PEOPLE CAN CHANGE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE COM PLAN. WE'RE NOT DOING NOTHING EGREGIOUS, ARE WE? BEAT ZONING HAS TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE, AND IN THIS CASE, IT IS. AND UP EASIER PASS, ALL RIGHT, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. NO MATTER MAYOR EAT. YOU GOT TO COMMENT? NO, WE DON'T. BROKE OUR COUNCIL MEMBER GIVES THOMAS NO. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. MHM. THROAT. LAUGH AT ME. OH, GOD. YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER STONE YES. VICE MAYOR DOWLING HIGH MAYOR CLARK YES. THIS MEETING IS A JOHN.
NEXT REGULAR METER STARTS AND GO HOME. FIVE MINUTES. WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING. FIVE MINUTES NUMBER EIGHT. EIGHT. OH, CAN WE GET STARTED RIGHT AWAY. BECAUSE. I HAD TO SCRAP. OH, YEAH.
YOU'RE JUST STARTING OUT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.