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MEETING OF THE DECEMBER 9TH 2020. LANDING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD MEETING.
COMMITTEE MEMBER BERRY YEAH. MANY MEMBER MILEY HERE. MANY MEMBER PALMER MANY MEMBER, PRESSLER. MANY MEMBERS OF HAYEK HERE MANY MEMBERS WHINER HERE. THANK YOU ALL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
OF THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS. WE'RE GONNA SWEAR EVERYBODY IN AND YOU HAVE OATHS OF OFFICE THAT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO SIGN YOUR ACCEPT THE POSITION ON THE BOTTOM OF THE OATH. IF EVERYBODY CAN PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME. I STATE YOUR NAME BY. SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM. THAT I WILL SUPPORT PROTECT. DEFEND BEFORE. CONSTITUTION AND GOVERNMENT BECAUSE. THE UNITED STATES OF UNITED AND OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND. BUT I AM DULY QUALIFIED TO HOLD OFFICE THAT.
UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE UNDER THE GROUND. AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY. ONE DAY. PERFORM THE DUTIES OF PERFORM. LANDING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD MEMBER.
WHICH I AM NOW ABOUT TO ENTER. SO HELP ME GOD. HUMAN AGO.
GOING TO GIVE YOU A SECOND JUST TO FINISH DOING THE OATHS OF OFFICE. AND THEN I'M GONNA GO OVER THE FORM ONES WITH YOU. LOT OF LITTLE BOXES AND YOU KNOW THINGS YOU GOT TO CHECK OFF, SO I WANT TO POINT THEM OUT. NO. YOU FELT BOTH PARTS. THE FORM ONE. I KNOW YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO COMPLETE TODAY BECAUSE SOME OF THIS INFORMATION YOU'LL HAVE TO GO HOME AND GET THAT BUT ON THE FORM. ONE LIST. YOU KNOW YOUR NAME YOUR ADDRESS NAME OF THE AGENCY'S VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN. NAME OF OFFICER POSITION HELD HER THOUGHT IS GOING TO BE PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD MEMBER. LANDING. LANDING ZONING AND APPEALS. BOARD MEMBER. AND UNDERNEATH THAT THERE'S A SMALL CHECK BOX. YOU'RE GONNA CHECK OFF NEW EMPLOYEES OR APPOINTEE. AND THE REST OF IT. THERE ARE A LOT OF INSTRUCTIONS IN THE BACK OF THE FORM. BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT PART A. YOU'VE GOT YOUR PRIMARY SOURCE OF INCOME. BE A SECONDARY SOURCE OF INCOME. ARTSY REAL PROPERTY. DO USE YOUR INTANGIBLE PERSONAL
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PROPERTY. YOU'RE NOT LISTENING THE AMOUNTS OF YOUR INCOME OR YOUR MOUNTS OF YOUR STOCKS OR BONDS. YOU'RE JUST LISTENING WHAT YOU HAVE AND WHO YOU HAVE THEM WITH. YOUR LIABILITIES.ANY PREDATOR THAT YOU OWE $10,000 OR MORE TO SAY YOU OWE MORE THAN 10,000 ON STUDENT LOANS OR CAR? SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU PUT IN THAT SECTION. IF YOU HAVE ANY INTERESTS IN OTHER SPECIFIED BUSINESSES. THERE ARE CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES THEY ARE IN THE INSTRUCTIONS. IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN THERE, YOU WOULD FILL IN THAT SECTION. IF YOU DON'T HAVE INTEREST IN ONE OF THOSE SPECIFIED BUSINESSES, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT THAT JUST PUT AN A. FOR ANY OF THESE THAT DONALD FLY. ACTUALLY, YOU'RE GOING TO PUT ANY DON'T LEAVE THEM BLANK. MARGIE YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS. THEN YOU'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU SIGNED AND DATED. IF YOU HAVE A C P A OR ATTORNEY HELP YOU WITH THIS. MAKE SURE THAT THEY SIGN THE BOX JUST TO THE RIGHT WHERE YOU SIGN AND DATE. AGAIN. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT HOW MUCH OF MORTGAGES HOW MUCH YOU MAKE. IT'S JUST LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE GOING FORWARD. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FORM. YOU CAN GIVE ME A CALL AFTER THE MEETING, BUT MAKE SURE I GET THIS ORIGINAL BACK BY FRIDAY. THIS WILL GO TO THE COUNTY SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS OFFICE. AGAIN. I MENTIONED THIS IS A FORM THAT YOU WILL FILL OUT ANNUALLY. AND IT IS PUBLIC RECORD. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS RIGHT NOW? HELP. RIGHT? OKAY, I'LL DO THAT. SORRY. I HAVE A DIFFERENT YEAH. ALL OF HERE.
THAT'S RIGHT, OKAY. JUST GO AHEAD AND DO THE ORIENTATION THAT WILL DO THE PUBLIC COMMENT. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE AND AGAIN. WELCOME TO YOUR FIRST PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD. REGULAR MEETING. I AM HEALTHY A JEFFERSON. I'M YOUR STAFF LIAISON TO THIS BOARD. SO I AM. YOUR CONTACT FOR ANY ISSUES, QUESTIONS, REMARKS CONCERNS REGARDING THIS BOARD AND THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND TEST ASSIGNED TO THIS BOARD. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. I'M GOING TO FORGO ANY FURTHER COMMENTS UNTIL I DO MY PORTION OF THE ORIENTATION, BUT NEXT WE'RE GOING TO START WITH OUR VILLAGE ATTORNEY. JUST WAIT BOTH.
FANTASTIC GOOD MORNING. EVERYONE ASSES OUT VIA SAID MY NAME IS WADE VOTES ON THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME, OKAY. YES. FANTASTIC SO I'M LOOKING AT THE AGENDA HERE. I KNOW IT HAD ORIENTATION HERE. INITIALLY I THINK THE MAIN SHOW ON HERE TOE PUT ON TODAY IS TO TALK WITH YOU ALL ABOUT. THE ETHICS RULES THAT GOVERN YOUR PARTICIPATION ON THIS BOARD AND THE SUNSHINE LAW ON THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT HEALTHY A. SHOULD I GO AHEAD AND JUST WAIT UNTIL THEY GET. THEIR STUFF OUT OF THE WAY AND GET WE GET DOWN TO THE ETHICS AND SUNSHINE LAW TRAINING PORTION OF THE AGENDA. THEY WILL HAVE TIME AT TOWARDS THE END OF THE MEETING TO FINISH THE FORMS. WHAT, ACTUALLY THEY HAVE WEEK TO GET THE FORMS TO SUSAN. FORMS. HAVE TO BE BACK BY FRIDAY. OKAY? YOU HAVE ONE DAY TOO. BUT YOU CAN GET STARTED ON THE SUNSHINE LINE AT THINGS AND THEN I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH MY PORTION. GREAT. ALL RIGHT, AND GIVE ME GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF A PARAMETER HERE. HOW MUCH? HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE? AND THE REASON REASON WHY I ASK BOARD MEMBERS IS. FORTUNATELY FOR YOU, YOU WERE NOT SUBJECT TO THIS STATUTORY REQUIREMENT, BUT THE MEMBERS OF ELECTED BODIES LIKE THE VILLAGE COUNCIL, THE LEGISLATURE REQUIRES THAT THEY GET FOUR HOURS OF ETHICS, SUNSHINE LAW AND PUBLIC RECORDS TRAINING EVERY YEAR. AND NOT THAT MUCH CHANGES HERE HERE, SO THEY HAVE TO HEAR THE SAME STUFF OVER AND OVER AGAIN. YOU DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO ME FOR FOUR HOURS TODAY. SOMETIMES I CUT THIS DOWN TO AN HOUR AND SOMETIMES I CUT IT DOWN TO 10 MINUTES SO.
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UH HOW MUCH TIME WE LOOKING TO SPEND ON THIS OUT THERE ABOUT 20 MINUTES, AND ONCE THEY'VE HEARD JUST THEN I THINK THEY'LL BE WELL PREPARED TO ELECT A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AFTER HEARING WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. OKAY, WELL, UM I'M GONNA BE FOCUSING PRIMARILY ON THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO GOVERN. HOW YOU YOU GO FORWARD ON THE BOARD GENERALLY. UM. LET'S DIVE IN[7.
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]AND DEAL WITH THE SUNSHINE LAW FIRST, OKAY? AND AGAIN. THIS IS USUALLY AN HOUR PRESENTATION ALONE ON THIS. I'M GONNA GIVE IT TO YOU IN ABOUT FIVE OR SIX MINUTES. THE SUNSHINE LAW. WAIT I'M SORRY. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION TO YOU THAT THEY DO HAVE SOME MATERIALS WE PROVIDED TO THEM, WHICH IS ON THE FLOOR FROM THE FLORIDA COMMISSION ON ETHICS. WORD. IT'S A GUIDE TO THE SUNSHINE AMENDMENT AND CODE OF ETHICS IF YOU NEED TO REFER THEM TO ANY PAGES. YEAH, I'M NOT GONNA BE REFERRING TO THAT DOCUMENT. IT'S A GREAT DOCUMENT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE EACH OF YOU TO READ IT IN FULL. IT'S GOING TO TELL YOU A LOT OF GOOD THINGS ABOUT ALL OF THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO FOCUS ON SOME OF THE BASICS WITH REGARD TO THE SUNSHINE LAW, TOO. UH KEEP YOU ALL ON THE RIGHT NARROW PATH AND KEEP THE VILLAGE OUT OF TROUBLE AND SO ON SO FIRST WITH REGARD TO THE SUNSHINE LAW, THE BASIC IDEA OF. SUNSHINE WALK IS THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE A RIGHT OF ACCESS TO GOVERNMENTAL PROCEEDINGS IN FLORIDA FOR STATE AND PARTICULARLY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. IT APPLIES BOTH. AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU GUYS. IT IMPLIES BOTH TO ELECTED BOARDS AND TWO APPOINTED BOARDS. EVEN WHEN AGAIN I HEAR THE OPPOSITE OF THIS ALL THE TIME FROM PEOPLE, AND IT'S JUST INCORRECT UNDER FLORIDA LAW. IT APPLIES EVEN WHEN THE DECISIONS THAT ABOARD LIKE YOU WERE MAKING OR JUST ADVISORY, IF YOU'RE NOT EVEN THE FINAL DECISION MAKER. NEVERTHELESS, THE SUNSHINE LAW PLOTS OKAY? THE GENERAL RULE OF THE SUNSHINE LAW IS ALL MEETINGS AT WHICH OFFICIAL ACTS OR TAKEN OR PUBLIC BUSINESS IS TRANSACTED OR DISCUSSED, HAVE TO BE OPEN AND NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC, OKAY. SO. BASICALLY IT APPLIES TO ANY MEETING BETWEEN TWO OR MORE MEMBERS OF THE SAME BOARD. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT THE SECOND WHEN DISCUSSING MATTERS THAT MAY FORESEEABLY COME BEFORE THE BOARD. SO WHAT IS THIS? MAY IT MEANS THAT IF ANY OF THE TWO OF YOU ALL RIGHT RUN INTO EACH OTHER IN THE SUPERMARKET, ALL RIGHT. ARE YOU REQUIRED INTO THE SUNSHINE LAW TO RUN AWAY FROM EACH OTHER AND NOT TALK TO EACH OTHER? AVERT YOUR EYES AND ALL THIS? ABSOLUTELY NOT. YOU CAN SAY HI TO EACH OTHER, AND YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE WEATHER. YOU COULD TALK ABOUT THE FLORIDA GATORS. YOU CAN TALK ABOUT. EVEN NATIONAL POLITICS OR OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THIS THING'S GOING ON. GENERALLY. WHAT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT AMONGST YOURSELVES TWO OR MORE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD. IS ANY MATTER THAT MAY FORESEEABLY COME BEFORE THE PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD. SO WHAT THAT'S BASICALLY GOING TO BE IS MATTERS WITHIN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN RELATING TO DEVELOPMENT, UM, OR DEVELOPMENT RULES LIKE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PARTICULAR PROJECTS THAT POTENTIALLY WOULD BE COMING THROUGH AND SO ON. THIS ALSO INCLUDES MATTERS THAT YOU ALL HAVE HEARD AND GOTTEN DONE WITH ONE OF THE MOST COMMON THINGS I HEAR PEOPLE WANT TO AFTER THEY'VE GOTTEN THROUGH A BIG ITEM. THEY WANT TO BE ABLE T TO CHAT WITH OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. YOU KNOW ABOUT IT AFTER IT'S ALL DONE. GENERALLY DISCOURAGED THAT BECAUSE ANY MATTER THAT THAT HAS COME BEFORE YOU IN THE PAST, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY IT MAY COME BEFORE YOU AGAIN SOMEWHERE ENOUGH. OKAY? SO THE BASIC RULE IS NO DISCUSSING AMONGST YOURSELVES ANY MATTER THAT MAY FORESEEABLY COME BEFORE THE PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD OUTSIDE OF A NOTICE PUBLIC MEETING. AND WHAT WE MEAN BY NOTICE PUBLIC MEETING MOST OF THAT STUFF WHEN IT'S DONE RIGHT IS HANDLED BY THE VILLAGE STAFF, SO IT'S GOT TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THAT MEANS PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND. SEE THE MEETING AND SO ON. REASONABLE NOTICE OF THE MEETINGS MUST BE GIVEN THAT'S HANDLED BY STAFF AS WELL. AND MINUTES OF THE MEETINGS MUST BE TAKEN PROPERLY RECORDED AND OPEN TO PUBLIC INSPECTION AGAIN. WHEN HANDLED APPROPRIATELY, IT'S ALL HANDLED BY STEP. UM. EXAMPLES OF QUOTE UNQUOTE MEETINGS THAT DON'T COMPLY WITH THE SUNSHINE BLONDE. THIS IS WHERE WE GET INTO A LOT OF DANGER IS EMAIL.[00:15:04]
OKAY, JUST LIKE YOU CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER, VERBALLY OR ON THE TELEPHONE ABOUT A MATTER THAT MAY PERCEIVE WE COME BEFORE YOU. YOU CANNOT EMAIL AMONG THE BOARD MEMBERS EMAIL BACK AND FORTH. WELL I THINK WE OUGHT TO DO THIS. NO I THINK WE OUGHT TO DO THIS AND SO ON.SAME THING WITH FACEBOOK. FACEBOOK CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS WHEN IT COMES TO THE SUNSHINE LAW. WHAT I GENERALLY ENCOURAGES. IF YOU SEE SOMEBODY POST SOMETHING CONCERNING DEVELOPMENT IN INDIAN TOWN, THE SAFER THING WOULD BE AS A PLANNING ZONING APPEALS BOARD MEMBER NOT TO RESPOND TO IT AT ALL. BUT IF YOU DO, UH, DON'T DO IT OR IF YOU WANT TO. DON'T DO IT. IF YOU SEE ANOTHER PLANNING ZONING APPEALS BOARD MEMBER ALREADY HAS THAT MAY LOOK LIKE YOU'RE RESPONDING TO WHAT THEY SAY. AND THAT'S LOOKING FOR TRUMP. WHY DO WE COMPLY WITH SUNSHINE LAW? WELL OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO COMPLY WITH THE LAW. BUT THERE ARE PUNISHMENTS AS WELL. VIOLATIONS OF THE SUNSHINE LAW ARE SECOND DEGREE MISDEMEANORS. WHICH YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT'S NOT THAT BAD. THAT'S NOT THAT MUCH. WELL THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD UNTIL YOU GET THAT CALL FROM THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AND THEN THAT BASICALLY RUINED YOUR WHOLE YEAR. SO YOU DON'T WANT TO GET ANYWHERE NEAR A VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE LAW. JUST RECENTLY, WE HAD, UM. A COUPLE FOLKS OVER IN THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN ON THE CITY COUNCIL THERE GOT BUSTED FOR SUNSHINE LAW VIOLATIONS AND THEY'RE HAVING TOE PLEAD TO CRIMES AND ALL OF THIS, AND THAT'S JUST NOWHERE NEAR WHERE YOU WANT TO PAY. UM. ONE OTHER THING RELATING TO THE SUNSHINE LAW MENTIONED IS THE RIGHT TO PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL RIGHT, SO MEMBERS OFF THE PUBLIC ARE GOING TO COME TO YOUR MEETINGS, SOMETIMES. AND WITH REGARD TO EVERY MATERIAL ITEM YOU HAVE ON YOUR AGENDA. I'M GONNA ASK THAT YOU OPEN THAT MATTER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK. YOU CAN SET RULES AS TO HOW MUCH TIME THEY HAVE THREE OR FOUR MINUTES OR WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. AND YOU CAN'T STOP THEM FROM SPEAKING JUST BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE WITH THAT SOMEBODY GETS UP AND STARTS SCREAMING AND YELLING BEING VIOLENT OR CURSING. THE CHAIR CAN DIRECT THEM TO STOP DOING THAT. AND IF THEY DON'T YOU CAN DIRECT THEM TOW SIT DOWN, BUT ABSENT THAT YOU LET PEOPLE SAY THEIR PIECE. OKAY? UM. ONE THING IN THIS THIS GETS PARTICULARLY TO THE WORK YOU ALL DO ON THE PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD. WE TALK GENERALLY ABOUT. ABOUT YOU KNOW, HAVING OPEN MEETINGS AND SO ON AND WHO YOU CAN'T TALK TO, AND YOU CAN'T TALK TO OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR SAME BOARD ABOUT MATTERS THAT MAY FORESEEABLY COME BEFORE YOU. CAN YOU TALK TO THE PUBLIC? CAN YOU TALK TO A VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBER? GENERAL. THE ANSWER IS YES. ALL RIGHT. TWO CAVEATS THAT THOUGH FIRST IS YOU CANNOT USE ANYBODY ELSE. TO DO SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T DO DIRECTLY. ALL RIGHT? AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THIS YOU CANNOT JUST AS YOU CAN'T GO TO A FELLOW MEMBER OF YOUR BOARD AND TALK ABOUT SOME MATTER THAT MAY COME BEFORE YOU. YOU CAN'T GO TO A THIRD PARTY AND SAY HEY, LISTEN, GO TELL BOARD MEMBER SELLING CELL. I'M GONNA VOTE FOR THIS AND THEY OUGHT TO VOTE FOR IT TOO.
OKAY THAT'S WHAT'S CALLED THE HAVING SOMEONE BE A CONDUIT. THAT'S VERY ILLEGAL USING SOMEBODY ELSE TO EFFECTIVELY PASS NOTES AMONG BOARD MEMBERS THAT YOU CAN'T YOURSELF OKAY, SO WHETHER IT'S A COUNCIL MEMBER, WHETHER IT'S ANYBODY ELSE YOU CAN SPEAK TO OTHER PEOPLE. THEY'RE NOT ON YOUR BOARD, BUT YOU CAN'T USE THEM TO COMMUNICATE INDIRECTLY TO ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER. WHAT ANOTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION RELATED TO THIS IS WHAT WE CALL QUASI JUDICIAL DECISIONS. YOU'RE GONNA BE MAKING A NUMBER OF THOSE ON THE PLANNING ZONING APPEALS BOARD. AND STAFF WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO MAKE A QUASI JUDICIAL, QUASI JUDICIAL DECISION VERSUS A LEGISLATIVE DECISION IS THE OTHER TYPE, OKAY? WHEN YOU HAVE A QUASI JUDICIAL DECISION, IT MEANS YOU'RE BASICALLY GONNA BE SITTING QUASI LIKE A JUDGE.
OKAY? YOU DON'T GET TO WEAR A ROBE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT YOU'RE GONNA BE SITTING, YOU KNOW, LIKE A JUDGE. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS, YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS ON THOSE ITEMS BASED ON THE FACTS AND THE LAW. THAT IS THE EVIDENCE THAT'S PRESENTED TO YOU IN THAT BOARD MEETING. AND THE APPLICABLE LAW, WHICH WOULD USUALLY BE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. OK ON THOSE ITEMS. IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU NOT.
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TALK WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO SHARE YOUR OPINION ON SOME MATTER THAT'S COMING BEFORE YOU BEFORE THE MEETING. AND HERE'S WHY IT'S NOT ILLEGAL AS SUCH, BUT WHAT EFFECTIVELY IT DOES IS, IT SETS UP AN ARGUMENT IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO CHALLENGE THAT DECISION? TO SAY, WELL, THAT BOARD MEMBER ALREADY MADE THEIR DECISION BEFORE THEY EVER HEARD THE EVIDENCE OR THE LAW.AND THEREFORE THERE THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THAT VOTE, AND WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EASY CHALLENGES TO SOME DECISION THAT THIS BOARD MAY MAKE. OKAY? SO WITH REGARD TO ALL THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? WAIT. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT EX PARTE COMMUNICATION FOR THEM? ABSOLUTELY AND THAT GOES THAT GOES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT GOES RIGHT ALONG WITH WHAT? I WAS TALKING ABOUT THERE WITH QUASI JUDICIAL DECISIONS. ONE OTHER THING, REMEMBER, I SAID THAT YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE. YOUR DECISIONS BASED ON THE EVIDENCE IS PRESENTED IN THE MEETING AND THE LAW THAT'S APPLICABLE TO IT THE ORDINANCES AND COMPLAINED IN SOMEONE SO. SOMETIMES YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC WILL COME TO YOU ABOUT A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER OR YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN PROJECTS GOING TO GO IN ON A PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY OR VARIANTS ON A PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY. YOU MIGHT BE CURIOUS, AND YOU MIGHT STOP BY THAT PROPERTY AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT. RIGHT WITH YOUR OWN EYES. UM. IN THOSE INSTANCES, PARTICULARLY THE COMMUNICATION FROM A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC OR DEVELOPER, WHATEVER THOSE AIR WOULD'VE CALLED EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS IS THERE OUTSIDE THE MEETING COMMUNICATIONS? THEY'RE NOT HER SAY, ILLEGAL. ALL RIGHT, UM THEY THEY CAN SOMETIMES GET UH, THERE ARE SOME RISKS WITH IT IN THE WAY WE MITIGATE THOSE RISKS IS IN THE MEETINGS WHEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER. YOU HAVE TO DISCLOSE TO PUBLICLY IN THE MEETING. WHAT QUASI ARE PER ME WHAT EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS YOU'VE HAD. FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE DEVELOPER PICKED UP THE PHONE AND GIVE YOU A CALL, YOU WOULD NEED TO DISCLOSE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THAT DEVELOPER. AND DISCLOSED LEE THE CONTENT THE GENERAL CONTENT OF THAT COMMUNICATION. SAME THING. IF YOU DID A SITE VISIT ON YOUR OWN, YOU DIDN'T DISCLOSE YEAH, I WENT AND. TAKE A LOOK AT THE SITE. AND GENERALLY THIS IS WHAT I SAW.
SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING AGAIN STAFF WILL PROMPT YOU TO. PLEASE DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTY COMMUNICATIONS YOU'VE HAD ABOUT ANY QUASI JUDICIAL ITEMS THAT MIGHT BE ON THAT AGAIN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SUNSHINE LOVE WAS VERY QUICKLY. I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO PUBLIC RECORDS AND THEN VOTING CONFIDENCE. ANY QUESTIONS, WADE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN TALK WITH THE VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT'S UP TO YOUR DEGREE. I'M SORRY, BUT OH, I DID? YES. UM AS I WAS SAYING, THE GENERAL ANSWER IS YES. YOU CAN SPEAK BECAUSE YOU IN THE VILLAGE COUNCIL DO NOT SIT ON THE SAME BOARD. OKAY, SO THE SUNSHINE LAW DOES NOT PROHIBIT YOU FROM TALKING TO VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO, UM. IT IS PERFECTLY PERMISSIBLE FOR YOU TO DO SO, GENERAL. KEEP IN MIND THAT YET A MATTER THAT COMES IN FOUR YEARS, A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DISCLOSE THAT YOU SPOKE TO, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT THAT QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER. AND THE CONTENT OF THAT DISCUSSION, SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING A BEAR IN MIND WHEN YOU DO. BY THE WAY, I YOU KNOW, I'VE USED THE TERM CLOSET JUDICIAL MATTER. AND I TOLD YOU WHAT IT MEANS. BUT I HAVEN'T GIVE ME ANY EXAMPLES.
USUALLY A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER IS GOING TO BE DECISIONS CONCERNING A PARTICULAR PROPERTY OR PROJECT. OKAY. AND SO THESE ARE GOING TO BE SITE PLAN IMPROVES VARIANCES SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS. REZONING OF A PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT. THE STANDARD IS DIFFERENT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY. THOSE ARE QUALIFIED JUDICIAL VERSUS WHERE YOU MAKE LEGISLATIVE DECISIONS. AND THAT IS WHEN YOU'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO CHANGE. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR CHANGE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS THAT IS MAKING CHANGES TO THE RULES GENERALLY FOR THE VILLAGE, AND THAT IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE STRICTER, QUASI JUDICIAL. RESTRICTIONS BUT ANY EVENT YES, YOU CAN SPEAK TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS CONCERNING. MATTERS THAT COME BEFORE YOU JUST
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CANNOT SPEAK TO OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR BOARD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. AND BY THE WAY, WHEN IT COMES TO THESE THINGS. IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO REALLY INTERNALIZE A LOT OF THESE IDEAS AND GOVERNMENT. PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO CONTACT VILLAGE STAFF OR MAY OR WHATEVER, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS DOWN THE LINE ON THIS. ALETHEA AND SUSAN ARE VERY WELL VERSED IN ALL OF THESE THINGS AND CAN HELP YOU OUT, AND I'M AVAILABLE TO HELP YOU OUT ON ANY OF THIS IS WELL.REX IS SEEING NO QUESTIONS ON MOVE ON VERY QUICKLY. THE PUBLIC RECORDS PUBLIC RECORDS ACT. THIS IS RELATIVELY SIMPLE FOR YOU ALL BECAUSE MOST OF IT WAY DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. OH, SORRY. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE IN THE FINGERS TO SPEAK UP. IF SOMEBODY HAS A QUESTION SORRY. OKAY? YEAH, RECORD, ANTHONY'S WIDER UM. HAVEN'T DISCLOSED THEIR YOU'VE REVEALED TO US WHO CAN AND CAN'T TALK TO, BUT AS I'M SITTING HERE ON. I'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS IN THE PAST AS A CITIZEN WITH OUR VILLAGE MANAGER. I'M WONDERING WHERE DOES THAT FALLING THIS? LIKE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH VILLAGE MANAGER. YES YOU CAN. YOU CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE VILLAGE MANAGER IS WELL, YOU YOU CAN SPEAK WITH. ANYONE YOU WANT TO OTHER THAN OTHER BOARDMAN'S OF YOUR SAME BOARD. CONCERNING MATTERS THAT MAY FORESEEABLY COME BEFORE YOU, BUT YOU CAN'T TALK TO ANY ANYBODY IN THE WORLD ABOUT HEY, GO ASK ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER. WHAT? WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO IT SO VERY GOOD. UNDERSTOOD.
THANK YOU. WAIT. WAITED ONE MORE QUESTION. UH YES, PLEASE. WE NEED TO BE MAKING, UM, LIKE KEEPING A LOG OF OUR INTERACTIONS WITH VARIOUS PEOPLE ON WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT. IT'S GOOD QUESTION. NOW IS YOUR JUDICIAL WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REPORT IT. YEAH. AND, UM WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST. IS. IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA AND DO WHATEVER IT TAKES FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO REMEMBER IT SUFFICIENTLY TO DISCLOSE THAT IN THE MEETING, OKAY? AND YOU DO NOT NEED TO IN ANY EVENT WITH REGARD TO SOMEBODY FOLKS COMING TO YOU AND SAY, HEY, LEN DEVELOPMENT CODE REALLY OUGHT AGAIN. YOU KNOW YOU OUGHT TO MAKE THESE THREE CHANGES OR THE FOUND PLAN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THOSE WERE ALL LEGISLATIVE AND YOU'RE NEVER GONNA HAVE TO DISCLOSE THOSE COMMUNICATIONS. BUT IF IT'S HEY, JUST PROJECT'S GONNA BE COMING THROUGH FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL. PLEASE, PLEASE APPROVE IT AND SO ON. THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DISCLOSE. AND IF IT'S HELPFUL TO YOU JOT IT DOWN SO YOU CAN REMEMBER. SO. REAL QUICKLY IF THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER. OH YES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS ARE WE DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, BUT REAL QUICK FOR THE MEMBERS. PLEASE SPEAK AS CLOSE TO THE MIC AS POSSIBLE. WE'RE STREAMING THIS LIVE AND PEOPLE ARE HAVING TROUBLE HEARING YOU. SEE HOW CLOSE I AM TALKING TO THE MIKE. PLEASE JUST BRING THE MIC CLOSER TO YOURSELF. GO AHEAD, DANIEL WITH YOUR QUESTION. NO. OKAY, WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT.
VERY GOOD. VERY QUICKLY. I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT AND JUST GET TO THE BRASS TACKS OF WHAT'S APPLICABLE TO YOU GUYS. SO. UH PUBLIC RECORDS ACT BASICALLY PROVIDES OF RIGHT OF ACCESS TO STATE. LOCAL GOVERNMENT RECORDS. UM. AND IT'S INCREDIBLY BROAD. THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT DEFINES PUBLIC RECORDS IS ALL DOCUMENTS, PAPERS, LETTERS, MAPS, BOOKS, TAPES, PHOTOGRAPHS, FILM SOUND RECORDINGS, DATA PROCESSING SOFTWARE. THIS IS THE 19 SEVENTIES LEGISLATURE TRYING TO IMAGINE THE FUTURE OKAY OR OTHER MATERIAL, REGARDLESS OF PHYSICAL FORM. CHARACTERISTICS REMAINS A TRANSMISSION MADE OR RECEIVED PURSUANT TO LAW OR ORDINANCE OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE TRANSACTION OF OFFICIAL BUSINESS BY ANY AGENCY. RIGHT? SO IT'S REALLY BROAD. THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE PREPARE ME THE FLOOR SUPREME COURT LAYERED ONTO THAT DEFINITION AND SAID IT ENCOMPASSES ALL MATERIALS MADE OR RECEIVED BY AN AGENCY. AND THAT INCLUDES YOU GUYS. YOU GUYS ARE QUOTE UNQUOTE AGENCIES UNDER THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT. IN CONNECTION WITH OFFICIAL BUSINESS, WHICH ARE USED TO PERPETUATE, COMMUNICATE OR FORMALIZED KNOWLEDGE. NOW, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? AS A PRACTICAL MATTER? IT MEANS THAT. THE MOST COMMON EXAMPLE FOR YOU IS EMAIS THAT YOU RECEIVE. FROM THE PUBLIC OR E MAILS THAT YOU SEND. UM RELATING TO PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD BUSINESS. ARE
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PUBLIC RECORDS. ALL RIGHT, AND WHAT IS THAT MEANS IT MEANS THEY HAVE TO BE RETAINED APPROPRIATELY BY RETAINED SO THAT IF ANYBODY MAKES A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, THEY CAN GET IT FOR THE APPROPRIATE PERIOD OF TIME. AND THEY HAVE TO BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR INSPECTION AND COPYING IF THE PUBLIC ASKED FOR RIGHT NOW. COUPLED TO DISPEL A COUPLE MISS REAL QUICK, YOU DO NOT NEED TO WORRY YOUR EMAIL INBOX IS NOT GOING TO BE INFECTED BY RECEIVING. ANEMIA ALE CONCERNING, YOU KNOW. EXERTING APPEAL THE SPORT BUSINESS. I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME. PEOPLE THINK I GOT AN EMAIL CONCERNING BOARD BUSINESS. SO NOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST TO SEE MY EMAILS TO MY DAUGHTER. OR MY, YOU KNOW, EMAILS, SETTING UP DINNER WITH MY FRIENDS. THIS IS NOT THE CASE, YOUR YOUR PRIVATE EMAILS OR YOUR PRIVATE EMAILS. NOBODY HAS A RIGHT TO SEE THOSE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IT IS ON LEE EMAILS OR OTHER DOCUMENTS CENTER RECEIVED RELATING TO GOVERNMENT BUSINESS RELATING TO VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD BUSINESS, OKAY? SUSAN HOW WOULD YOU LIKE SINCE SINCE THIS IS THE FIRST PERMANENT BOARD THAT'S NOT AN ELECTED BOARD WITHIN THE VILLAGE? HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THEM TO HANDLE RETAINING THOSE? IT'S A COMMON THING TO. IN A BOARD MEMBER RECEIVES AN EMAIL TO THEIR PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS TO FORWARD IT ON TO THE CITY OR VILLAGE EMAIL SYSTEM SO THAT THE VILLAGE CAN WORRY ABOUT RETAINING THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT YEAH, THAT'S TYPICALLY THE WAY THAT IT'S DONE UNLESS THEY GET THEIR OWN EMAIL ADDRESSES, WHICH IS. EXPENSIVE FOR US TO BUY LICENSES TO DO THAT, SO, YES, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND JUST FORD. IT, UM. MYSELF OR TO DARREN AND WE WILL MAINTAIN THOSE RECORDS. PERFECT. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHO TO FORWARD IT TO. SO THE EASY THING GUYS IS, IF YOU RECEIVE A EMAIL FROM THE BALL, AND YOU WILL, YOU KNOW SOMETHING CONTROVERSIAL COMES THROUGH YOU GET AN EMAIL THAT SAYS HEY, LISTEN, I REALLY THINK YOU OUGHT TO MAKE THESE TWO CHANGES TILL THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OR I REALLY THINK YOU OUGHT TO VOTE AGAINST THIS PROJECT OR WHATEVER. JUST RIGHT WHEN YOU GET IT FORWARD IT ON TO SUSAN OR DARREN AND THEN FROM THE PUBLIC RECORDS PERSPECTIVE, YOU CAN PUT IT RIGHT OUT OF YOUR HEAD. YOU DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT IT ANYMORE. IT'S BEING TAKEN BY THE VILLAGE AND ALSO YOUR FUN. NOT JUST THE SENT EMAIL. RIGHT IF YOU RESPOND TO ANY OF THOSE, PLEASE ALSO SEND IT ON OR COPY. UM SUSAN OR DARREN AND THEN IT WILL GET INTO THE VILLAGES EMAIL SYSTEM, WHICH THEY ALL MANAGE WITH I T FOLKS AND RETAIN AND THEN AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. UM. LITTLE STICKIER ISSUE AND WHY I GENERALLY JUST FOR YOUR OWN SANITY. DISCOURAGE IT TEXTING TEXT MESSAGES, OKAY, IF THEY'RE RELATING TO UH, PLANNING ZONING APPEALS BOARD BUSINESS. ARE PUBLIC RECORDS. OKAY S O. THE EASY ANSWER IS TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM TEXTING YOU ABOUT PLANNING ZONING AND FEELS MORE BUSINESS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. IF YOU DO, EVER GET ONE, OR YOU SEND ONE OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS. UM, THEN, UH, MY SUGGESTION. OFTENTIMES IT'S EASY JUST TO SCREENSHOT IT AND THE EMAIL IT TO YOURSELF, DO THAT QUICKLY, AND THEN YOU NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT AGA AND AS A GENERAL MATTER HAD YOUR. TEXTING SUSAN SAYING. HEY, LISTEN, I'M GONNA BE FIVE MINUTES LATE. THAT'S NOT WHAT WHAT WOULD KEEP ME UP AT NIGHT FOR RETAINING WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT MATTERS THAT. CONVEY SOME SUBSTANCE CONCERNING PLANNING. ZONING APPEALS BOARD MATTERS AGAIN. SAME THING MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TEXTING YOU SAYING, PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THIS MATTER OR OR WHAT HAVE YOU? UM. VERY SHORT VERSION, BUT ANY ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT PUBLIC RECORDS ACT? YES PLEASE WAIT. UH DANIEL SIDE CARE. WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR US TOW SET UP SEPARATE EMAIL AND PHONE NUMBER. NO, JUST ON THE PUBLIC RECORDS PORTION OF IT SO THAT IT'S.KIND OF MAKES COMPLY AND. SURE I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO SET UP A NECK STRA PHONE NUMBER.
THAT'S THAT MAY BE CUMBERSOME FOR FOLKS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT IS ALSO A COMMON THING IN A LOT OF PLACES FOR FOLKS ON ON APPOINTED BOARDS. HAD SET UP A GMAIL ACCOUNT RIGHT SEPARATE GMAIL ACCOUNT FOR THEIR STUFF. AND JUST YOUR NAME. YOU KNOW PC ABE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU
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DON'T HAVE TO, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY AN EASY WAY TO TRY TO KEEP THINGS SEPARATE. I WILL TELL YOU MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL GET AROUND THAT THEY WILL TRY TO FIND YOUR REAL EMAIL ADDRESS AND EMAIL YOU ANYWAYS. SO IT MIGHT BE A FEW TILE EFFORT. BUT I KNOW SOME PEOPLE DO THAT. SO THAT THAT MAY BE A GOOD THING. AT THE SAME TIME THAT YOUR VOLUME IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY HIGH OF EMAILS. YOU GET S OH, UH, IT MIGHT JUST BE EASIER JUST TO FORDHAM ON AS YOU GET. ONE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN YOU GET EMAILS FROM THE VILLAGE. ALL RIGHT, JUST SENDING OUT HEY, YOUR MEETINGS NEXT WEEK, THE AGENDA'S BEEN POSTED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YOU DO NOT NEED TO SWEAT RETAINING THOSE AND BOARDING THOSE BACK TO THE VILLAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WHEN THEY ORIGINATED FROM THE VILLAGE.THEY ALREADY THEY'RE ALREADY BEING RETAINED BY THE VILLAGE. SO YOU'RE RECEIVING. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT. OKAY? ONE THING WAY THAT PEOPLE CAN DO IS CREATE A SUB FOLDER IN THEIR EMAIL ACCOUNTS. WAS EASY WAY. INSTEAD OF HAVING TO DO A SECOND EMAIL ACCOUNT, JUST JUST SUB FOLDER. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD PRACTICAL IDEAS. WELL, ABSOLUTELY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT, THEN I'M GOING TO MOVE ON VERY QUICKLY TO CHAPTER 1 12.
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]CONCERNING THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ETHICS MATTERS THAT YOU FIND IN CHAPTER 1 12 4 STATUES OF CODE OF ETHICS AND SO ON. AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ THAT THE WHOLE PAMPHLET THAT. LT HAS PROVIDED ON THE AGENDA AND BECAUSE IT ADDRESSES SOME ADDITIONAL MATTERS THAT MAY BE RELEVANT. BUT I'M GONNA HIT THE BIGGEST ONE THAT COMES UP ON PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARDS. AND THAT IS VOTING CONFLICTS. OKAY THEY'RE GOING TO BE TIMES WHEN MATTERS MAY COME BEFORE THE PLANNING, ZONING IN APPEALS BOARD THAT ONE OR MORE OF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO VOTE. A VOTE ON. BECAUSE YOU HAVE A VOTING CONFLICT UNDER THE STATE STATUTE. WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT IS ALL RIGHT. SO. THE VOTING CONFLICTS STATUTE APPLIES AGAIN SAME AS SUNSHINE LAW BOTH TO ELECTED BOARDS AND TWO BOARDS THAT THAT IN SOME. CAPACITY SERVE IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY. YOU GUYS DO A LITTLE BIT ABOVE, BY THE WAY, SOME OF THE ACTIONS YOU TAKE HER ADVISORY TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. SOME OF THEM ARE YOUR THE FINAL DECISION. MAKE. SO YOU GUYS ARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IN ANY EVENT. UM, YOU ARE SUBJECT TO THE VOTING CONFLICT STATUTES. SO WHAT IS A VOTING CONFLICT VOTING CONFLICT? IS A SITUATION WHERE THE STATUTE SAYS YOU MAY NOT VOTE ON. TWO MAIN TYPES OF MATTERS ONE ANY MEASURE. THAT WOULD ENDURE TO YOUR. YOU THE BOARD MEMBER, YOUR SPECIAL PRIVATE GAIN OR LOSS. WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS IN THE SECOND, OKAY? OR. MET ANY MATTER THAT YOU KNOW WHAT A NEWER TO THE SPECIAL PRIVATE GAME OF LAW OR LOSS OF LIST OF DIFFERENT FOLKS. A PRINCIPLE. BY WHOM YOU RETAINED OR THAT YOU WORK FOR. WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT A PRINCIPAL MEANS OR AFFILIATED ENTITY OF THAT PRINCIPLE. UM. A RELATIVE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF RELATIVE FOR THIS STATUTE AND A BIT WAR, A BUSINESS ASSOCIATE. OKAY, SO WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE RIGHT? WHETHER IT WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT SPECIAL PRIVATE GAIN OR LOSS IS, BUT LET ME BREAK DOWN THOSE OTHER ONES. SO I MENTIONED THE WORD PRINCIPAL. WAS IS ME. IT MEANS YOUR EMPLOYER. OKAY, SO LET'S SAY YOU. YOU'RE EMPLOYED BY A COMPANY, AND THAT COMPANY IS GOING TO BE COMING BEFORE THE PLAYING A ZONING APPEALS BORDER FOR SOME DECISION. LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW THE JOB YOU DO FOR THAT COMPANY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DEVELOPMENT WORK OR THEN COMING FOR THE PLANET'S ONLY APPEALS BOARD. DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY'RE COMING BEFORE. THE BOARD FOR A DECISION THAT. DIRECTLY AFFECTS THEM IN A NEW WORDS TO THEIR PRIVATE, SPECIAL PRIVATE GAIN OR LOSS. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A VOTE IN CONGRESS. SAME THING, IS IT? THE PERSON COMING BEFORE YOU IS A CLIENT IN ANY SORT OF PROFESSIONAL PRACTICE. IF YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY OR AN ACCOUNTANT OR OTHER PROFESSIONAL PRACTICE, IF YOU HAVE A CLIENT AND THEY'RE COMING FOR THE AH PLAYING ZONING APPEALS BOARD. THAT'S GOING TOE BE A RED FLAG ISSUE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT AND THEN FINALLY, IF IT'S A CORPORATION THAT YOU SERVE AS A COMPENSATED DIRECTOR BOARD NOW GET THIS EXAMPLE ALL THE TIME.[00:40:05]
A CHURCH. COMES BEFORE THE PLANNING, SETTING AN APPEALS BOARD FOR SOMETHING AND YOU'RE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE LOCAL CONGREGATION OR WHAT HAPPENED. USUALLY WHEN YOU'RE ON THE BOARD OF A CHURCH AGAIN, I ACTUALLY GET THIS A LOT. IF YOU'RE ON THE BOARD OF A CHURCH, USUALLY NOT GETTING COMPENSATED. FOR THAT, WHICH MEANS IT TECHNICALLY IS NOT A CONFLICT UNDER THESE RULES, OKAY? SO. WE TALKED ABOUT RELATIVES AS WELL. THE DEFINITION OF RELATIVES FOR A VOTING CONFLICTS ACTUALLY REALLY NARROW. ALRIGHT IT'S FATHER. MOTHER SON, DAUGHTER, HUSBAND, WIFE, BROTHER, SISTER FATHER IN LAW MOTHER IN LAW, SON IN LAW AND DAUGHTER IN LAW. ALL RIGHT. NOTICE WHO'S NOT IN THAT LIST. FIRST COUSIN. UNCLE AUNT. UM STEP PARENTS. UH REALLY, REALLY CLOSE FRIENDS THAT YOU'RE NOT BLOOD RELATED TO OKAY? SO. IS WHAT WHEN IT COMES TO RELATIVES AND AGAIN, PARTICULARLY IN SMALLER TOWNS.WE GET IT ALL THE TIME. YOU GET YOUR FIRST COUSIN COMING UP AND ALL OF THIS. YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO ACCUSE YOURSELF ON A VOTING CONFLICT. IN THOSE INSTANCES WHEN IT'S NOT IN THIS VERY NARROW RELATIVE LIST. THERE MAY BE SOME INSTANCES WHERE YOU FEEL IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO ANYWAYS AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE WIGGLE ROOM. THE LAW GIVES YOU TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. FINALLY IS A BUSINESS ASSOCIATE. ALL RIGHT, THIS IS KIND OF AMORPHOUS, BUT THE GENERAL IDEA IT'S ANYBODY ANY PERSON OR ENTITY YOU'RE CARRYING ON A BUSINESS ENTERPRISE WITH. REGARDLESS OF THE FORMER BEST FORM OF THE BUSINESS. OKAY, SO THE QUESTION IS, IS WHETHER YOU'RE IN A COMMON COMMERCIAL OR ENTREPRENEUR OF PURSUIT, AND WHETHER IT'S CURRENT AND ONGOING, DOES NOT HAVE TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PROJECT THAT'S COMING BEFORE YOU. ALL RIGHT. GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE FOR LEFT HERE WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW IN ORANGE COUNTY AND ORANGE COUNTY COMMISSIONER WHO OWNED A PIECE OF LAND AND A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COUNTY WITH A DEVELOPER. ALL RIGHT. AND THEY WERE LOOKING TO DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COUNTY FAR AWAY AWAY, BUT THAT DEVELOPER CAME TROOPING IN ORANGE COUNTY FOR GET TO GET SOME DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. AND. THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT AT ALL.
BUT HE FAILED TO DISCLOSE THAT THIS WAS A BUSINESS ASSOCIATE BECAUSE THEY OWN PROPERTY TOGETHER IN A DIFFERENT COUNTY THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP, AND HE GOT POPPED FOR.
OKAY, SO IF YOU'RE IN ANY SORT OF BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP WITH ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S CURRENT AND ONGOING. WE'RE GONNA WANT TO LOOK AT THAT TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE A VOTING COME.
RIGHT NOW. WHAT DO I MEAN BY SPECIAL PRIVATE GAIN OR LOSS? WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS FIRST OFF. IT'S NOT ANY PRIVATE GAIN OR LOSS. THE DECISIONS YOU GUYS MAKE. ARE GOING TO EFFECT.
GROUP FOR GOOD OR ILL OR WHAT HAVE YOU GOING TO AFFECT EVERYBODY IN EVERY BUSINESS WITHIN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TECH? OKAY? THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT IS SPECIAL. IT'S UNIQUE ENOUGH OF A GAIN OR LOSS. THAT MEANS THAT IT QUALIFIES IS SOMETHING YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO RECUSE YOURSELF. ALL RIGHT, SO FIRST OFF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. ECONOMIC BENEFIT OR HARM USED TO BE BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE CLARIFIED IT A COUPLE DECADES AGO, PEOPLE WOULD FILE ETHICS COMPLAINTS AGAINST PEOPLE SAYING WELL, THEY ONLY VOTED THIS WAY OR DID THIS BECAUSE IT WAS TO THEIR POLITICAL GAIN TO VOTE THIS WAY. WELL. I HATE TO TELL YOU GUYS AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVEN'T RUN FOR OFFICE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT YOU'RE ON A GOVERNMENT BOARD. NOW EVERYTHING YOU DO IS TO YOUR POLITICAL GAIN OR LOSS. YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING A WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FINANCIAL MONEY OR VALUE OF LAND OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS ECONOMIC BENEFIT OR HEART, ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TO SAY IT'S SPECIAL IS WE LOOK AT THE SUN. WE LOOK AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT FACTORS. WE LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THE EFFECTIVE CLASS, ALL RIGHT. SO YOU'RE MAKING A DECISION ON A VARIANCE OR REZONING? OKAY, FOCUSING ON A PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S GOING TO BE SPECIAL. PRIVATE GATOR LOST THE DECISION. WHATEVER DECISION YOU MAKE. TO THAT PROPERTY OWNER RIGHT AND ALSO TO SAY A DEVELOPER WHO'S A POTENTIAL BUYER OF THAT PROPERTY, RIGHT? UM, WHEREAS IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO MAKE A CHANGE TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS THAT WOULD HAVE THAT WOULD AFFECT OR CHANGE THE RULES FOR 75 PARCELS WITHIN THE VILLAGE. THAT'S A
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MUCH BIGGER CLASS, WHICH MEANS IT'S NOT SO UNIQUE TO ONE PARTICULAR PERSON, ALL RIGHT.UM. ALONG WITH THAT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THE RELATIVE BENEFIT OR HARM YOU KNOW WHEN COMPARED TO THE OTHER. MEMBERS OF THE AFFECTED CLASS. IF YOU'RE CHANGING A RULE THAT THAT AFFECT 75 PARCELS, BUT IT REALLY, REALLY ON LEE PRACTICALLY CHANGES IT FOR TWO.
AND YOU KNOW YOUR BUSINESS PARTNER OR YOUR WIFE IS THE OWNER OF ONE OF THOSE TWO, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY AT THAT DECISION. AND THEN ALONG WITH THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THE GAIN OR LOSS IS REMOTE OR SPECULATIVE AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE DECISION YOU'RE MAKING IS JUST PRELIMINARY WORK PROCEDURAL.
WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH REMOTE OR SPECULATIVE. GET THIS LOT ON PLANNING ZONING APPEALS BOARD IF YOU HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER A BIG, LONG CHAIN OF LOGIC TO SAY SOMEBODY IS GOING TO GET SOME BENEFIT OR LOSS FROM IT, THEN IT'S PROBABLY REMOTE OR SPECULATIVE. SO FOR EXAMPLE. WELL, THEY WANT. THIS PERSON WANTS TO MAKE THIS CHANGE BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW THAT SETS THEM UP IN A COUPLE YEARS TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS, AND THEN DO THIS AND DO THIS AND SO ON. THAT STARTS TO LOOK MORE AND MORE LIKE ITS REMOTE OR SPECULATE, AS OPPOSED TO A REZONING WHERE THAT DAY ONCE IT'S DONE, BOOM, YOU KNOW NOW THEY COULD DO NEW THINGS ON THEIR PROPERTY. AND SO ON, OR ONCE THE VARIANCE IS GRANTED, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO SOMETHING THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO DO BEFO SO WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO? YEAH. UH IF YOU HAVE A VOTING CONFLICT, OR YOU THINK YOU HAVE A VOTING CONFLICT, YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO DO. YOU IS AS A APPOINTED BOARD OF AN OBLIGATION. GIVE FOUR THINGS. ALL RIGHT, FIRST OFF, YOU HAVE TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING. YOU CAN'T VOTE ON THAT MAP, ALL RIGHT? TO YOU'VE GOT TO DISCLOSE THE CONFLICT OR EARLY IN THE MEETING OUT LOUD. PRIOR TO DEVELOP. YOU'VE GOT TO FILE A FORM EIGHT B, WHICH IS A FORM PROMULGATED BY THE COMMISSION ON ETHICS WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE WITHIN 15 DAYS, AND SUSAN WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP YOU, SUSAN HEALTHY, IT WILL BE ABLE TO HELP YOU OUT WITH THAT. AND ALL THAT FORM SAYS IS. HEY LISTEN. WE HAD THIS VOTE ON THIS MATTER. ON THIS DAY. I HAD A VOTING CONFLICT, AND THIS IS WHY I HAD ABOUT A CONFLICT.
REALLY SOMETHING. POOR THING YOU HAVE TO DO. IS UM, YOU HAVE TO. IF YOU HAVEN'T VOTED CONFLICT, YOU HAVE TO PUBLICLY DISCLOSE THE VOTING CONFLICT. OUT LOUD. PRIOR TO PARTICIPATING IN DISCUSSION ON THE MATTER. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT MEANS YOU CAN'T SANDBAG IT AND SIT THERE AND SAY IN THE MEETING. HEY LISTEN, THIS IS THE BEST THING EVERY WE REALLY NEED TO VOTE FOR THIS, THAT IT IT IT IT AND THEN RIGHT AT THE END AND SAY. OH, YEAH, BY THE WAY, THIS IS PROPERTY. MY BROTHER ROUNDS. UM YOU'VE GOT TO SAY THIS IS PROBABLY MY BROTHER RUNS AND SO I HAVEN'T VOTED CONFLICT BEFORE YOU LEAN IN REAL HARD AND SAY WHY YOU OUGHT TO VOTE FOR. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT MEANS YOU CAN COMMENT. ON MATTERS YOU HAVE A VOTING CONFLICT. ALL RIGHT, HOWEVER, I WOULD LEAVE IT TO YOUR JUDGMENT ABOUT ON A GIVEN INSTANCE. WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD LOOK FOR YOU. WE'LL PUT IT THAT WAY. OKAY, THERE'LL BE TIMES WHERE YOU MAY HAVE JUST A PURELY. TECHNICAL CONFLICT. YOUR EMPLOYER IS COMING BEFORE THE PLANNING, ZONING APPEALS BOARD LOOKING TO GET SOMETHING, BUT YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. AND YOU REALLY DON'T CARE EITHER WAY, JUST BECAUSE IT'S YOUR EMPLOYER. YOU MIGHT DISCLOSE THAT. AND SAY, BUT LOOK, I REALLY DON'T CARE. JUST I'M NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE BECAUSE OF IT. BUT HERE'S WHAT I THINK ABOUT IT. THAT MIGHT BE FINE. IF IT'S A REZONING ON YOUR BROTHER'S PROPERTY MIGHT BE THE BEST IDEA JUST TO SAY HEY, IT'S MY BROTHER'S PROPERTY. I'M GONNA KEEP M SO, UM. THAT IS VOTING CONFLICTS. THE RELATED THING, TOO. THAT IS KIND OF THE FLIP SIDE IS THE. FLORIDA THE FLORIDA STATUTES FLORIDA LAW ACTUALLY REQUIRES YOU. TO VOTE ON MATTERS THAT COME BEFORE YOU ON GLASS. AN EXCEPTION IS ON AND IN THE STATUTE, SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? IT MEANS IN FLORIDA. THERE'S NO VOTING PRESENT. YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T JUST SIDESTEP SOMETHING. YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON BECAUSE IT'S CONTROVERSIAL OR WHATEVER. UM, YOU'VE GOT A RENTER OF UP UNLESS YOU HAVE A VOTING CONFLICT. OKAY UNLESS THERE'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST OR AND HERE'S THE WIGGLE ROOM THAT'S IN THE STATUTE. THEY'RE THE STATUTE READS. YOU GOTTA VOTE UNLESS THERE IS OR APPEARS TO BE A POSSIBLE CONFLICT OF INTEREST. NOW, WHERE'S THE WIGGLE ROOM THERE? WIGGLE ROOM COMES FOR SITUATIONS WHERE IT IS YOUR FIRST COUSIN, RIGHT? IT'S YOUR FIRST COUSIN WHO'S
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YOUR BEST FRIEND AND WHATEVER, AND THEY'RE COMING FOR REZONING IS GONNA MAKE HIM LOTS OF MONEY. THAT'S GOING TO BE AN INSTANCE WHERE IT MAY BE. THIS IS NOT A TECHNICAL CONFLICT, ALL RIGHT UNDER THE STATUTE, BUT IT CERTAINLY APPEARS LOOKS A LOT LIKE IT TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE MIGHT GET SQUIRMING ABOUT. IN THAT INSTANCE, YOU CAN USE THE WIGGLE ROOM UNDER THE STATUTE TO SAY. WHILE IT TECHNICALLY DOESN'T MEET THE STANDARD, IT CERTAINLY APPEARS AS A POSSIBLE CONFLICT OF INTEREST, SO I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM VOTING. IN THAT INSTANCE. BUT YOU CAN'T DO IT JUST THIS IS, YOU KNOW, POLITICAL HOT POTATO, AND I DON'T WANNA BET ON IT. SO WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AND KEEP IN MIND? THIS GETS COMPLEX. SO IF YOU EVER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS, YOU YOU THIS IS REALLY TO HELP YOU WITH ISSUES FIVE RIGHT TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND? WHEN THERE MIGHT BE A PROBLEM AT THAT POINT, YOU GOTTA VOTING CONFLICT. DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL ME AND WE'LL TALK THROUGH IT AND I'LL GIVE YOU SOME ADVICE ON WHETHER OR NOT I THINK YOU HAVE A CONFLICT. OKAY? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? LEAD. YES MA'AM.MARJORIE VERY. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT IS OUR LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY OF REPORTING VIOLATIONS? REPORTING VIOLATIONS OF LET'S SAY, ANTHONY COMES TO ME AND TELLS ME HOW I SHOULD VOTE ON A CERTAIN THING COMING UP IN A BOARD AND WE'RE NOT AT A DO I. AND I WOULD SAY NO. AND I'M NOT GOING TO TALK TO YOU, BUT WHAT I NEED TO REPORT HAD INTERACTION. THERE IS NO GENERAL OBLIGATION. TO OBLIGATION, OKAY TO REPORT.
VIOLATION LIKE THAT, OKAY? THAT I'M TALKING OBLIGATION AS TO WHETHER A SUPPOSED TO WHAT YOU THINK IS RIGHT. OKAY? YEAH IF ANOTHER MEMBER OF YOUR BOARD CAME TO YOU AND TRY TO ENGAGE IN THE SUNSHINE LAW VIOLATION. MY STRONG RECOMMENDATION TO YOU WOULD BE TRYING TO SHUT IT DOWN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. RIGHT? UM AND AGAIN, I'D LEAVE IT TO YOUR CONSCIENCE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO, UM. GONNA GIVE IT INSTANCE. I WILL TELL YOU MOST OFTEN WITH ANY OF THESE THINGS. IT IS. NOT KNOW ALMOST ALWAYS. THESE THINGS ARE NOT DONE OUT OF MALICE. I SAY ALMOST SOMETIMES THEY ARE BUT ALMOST ALWAYS THERE NOT DONE OUT OF A DESIRE TO DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL. IT'S OUT OF. NOT HAVING A LOT OF PRACTICE WITH IT, SO I SUGGEST KEEPING THAT IN MIND, YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU ALL I. WAIT A LITTLE LONGER THAN I MEANT TO, BUT I REALLY WANT TO GET THESE THINGS IN YOUR HEAD AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ THE. THE MATTER THAT LT IT PROVIDED YOU TO FILL IN SOME ADDITIONAL GAPS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WAIT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE TO THAT PORTION OF THE MEETING WHERE YOU WILL NOMINATE AND DECIDE ON YOUR CURRENT MEMBERS WHO WILL BE THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF THIS BOARD. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THERE ARE FOUR OF YOU WHO HAVE A THREE YEAR TERM. AND TWO OF YOU HAVE TWO YEAR TERMS. THE TWO YEAR TERM HOLDERS ARE MEMBER SO HIGH IQ AND MEMBER MILEY. EVERYONE ELSE HAS BEEN APPOINTED AS A THREE YEAR MM. SERVED. AND WITH THAT WE'LL TAKE ANY NOMINATION. POINT OF ORDER. MAY I REQUEST A PRAYER. USED AGAINST THE MIKE. SAY AS A POINT OF ORDER. MAY I REQUEST THAT THERE BE A PRAYER PROCEEDING. THIS. MOST CERTAINLY, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, PERHAPS AFTERWARDS, EACH OF YOU CAN TAKE ONE MINUTE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES. I NOTICED THAT YOU ALL ARRIVED THAT NO ONE REALLY KNEW. THE OTHER. SO THIS MIGHT BE GOOD INFORMATION FOR YOU TO HAVE IS YOU MAKE YOUR NOMINATIONS WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEAD THE PRAYER? MR MEMBERS? LINER CERTAINLY ARE. WOULD JUST BLOW YOUR HEADS WITH ME, PLEASE. THE LORD. WE JUST COME BEFORE YOU TO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER FATHER WE ASK IN JESUS NAME NOW THAT YOU WOULD JUST GUIDE US. USES. UM WAS FAVOR WITH THE EACH. ELATION THAT COMES IN BEFORE US LORD THAT WEAKEN GRANTED WISDOM. COLLEGE. DO THINGS THAT ARE RIGHT THIS
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VILLAGE FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS VILLAGE FOR EACH AND EVERY MEMBER OF THIS REALLY SHORT ALL. BE AND DO THAT WHICH IS CORRECT. MM. YOU'RE WELCOME, AND WE'LL START TO MY LEFT WITH[4.
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Election of Vice Chair
]THE ONE MINUTE INTRODUCTIONS MEMBER PRESSLER. HELLO. MY NAME IS RENE TO PRESSLER. I'VE LIVED HERE IN INDIAN TOWN. UM, PROBABLY ABOUT 30 YEARS. AND WE SPECIFICALLY CHOSE INDIAN TOWN BECAUSE WE LIKE THE PEOPLE HERE AND WHERE YOU LIKE THE SMALL TOWN. WE MOVED HERE FROM MARYLAND, ACTUALLY, ORIGINALLY AND ANYWAY. WORKED HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND, UM. AND I'M A HOMEOWNER AND WE BUILT OUR HOUSE. WE BOUGHT A LOT AND BUILT OUR HOUSE HERE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS BERNSTEIN. PALMER. UM I'M A SOCIAL SCIENCE TEACHER, OKAY? I'VE BEEN HERE 10 YEARS I'M MARRIED. REVEREND GEORGE PALMER. WE'VE BEEN MARRIED 14 YEARS, BUT WE HE'S BEEN PASSED AROUND 10 YEARS, SO HE'S A LONG TERM RESIDENT HERE. I'M. BORN IN BROOKLYN, NEW YORK, THEY'RE RAISED IN BROWN COUNTY. I DID A LOT OF ASSOCIATE VANCE, A SEPHORA'S COMMUNITY.GRASSROOTS MOVEMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATE FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT BOARDS AND IN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S ME. MY NAME IS ANTHONY IS A MINOR. MY WIFE AND I ARRIVED IN INDIAN TOWN IN 1994. WE CAME TO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE MARINA BY SAILBOAT HE'S BEING QUESTIONED ABOUT EVEN EXIST. YOU NEED A DANG GREW UP FOR THE NIGHT. AND WE ARE NOW HOMEOWNERS EMPLOYED HERE. WE'RE BOTH FROM SMALL TOWNS OF IOWA. FOUND THAT THE COMMUNITY VERY BECOMING TO OUR OUR DESIRE. SO. WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE FAMILY WORSHIP CENTER CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS NOW.
UM. WAS ACTUALLY, UH, PRESIDENT OF THE ITEM A, WHICH IS INDIAN. TOM MINISTER ELIAS, MRS PALMER'S HUSBAND, AND I AND A FEW OTHERS HELP SET UP HERE. WERE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE YOU LOVE INDIAN TOWN ON AND. I HAVE A FORD TO SERVING AT A GREATER CAPACITY. THANK YOU. MORNING, EVERYBODY. AH DANIEL. SO HAYEK, I'M IN THE LEGAL AND BROKERAGE BUSINESS.
PERSONALLY. WE CAME TO INDIAN TOWN. PEOPLE THAT I'M INVOLVED WITH. CAME OUT HERE 15 YEARS AGO, I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN. I'VE BEEN OUT HERE, MAYBE SINCE 56 YEARS AGO. UM. LEISURE TO BE OUT HERE. I'M FROM JUPITER, FLORIDA. I REMEMBER THE TIMES WHEN I WAS A KID, AND WE USED TO RUN OUT OUT WEST AND A ASI CHILDREN. ENJOY THE LIFESTYLE. RESPECT, YOU KNOW. WHAT THIS TOWN IS. WHERE IT'S GOING, AND TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT. NO TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION EVERYBODY'S OPINION. JUST THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACE AND KEEP ITS CHARACTER. IT'S AH HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO BE. REMINDED TO SPEAK UP AND CLOSE TO THE MIC. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS KRISTA MILEY IN MY LONG LIFE PRESIDENT OF ANY IN SOUTH FLORIDA. IN MY FREE TIME I WORK WITH THE GIRLS. SOME GIRLS IN THE COMMUNITY WITH BASKETBALL. I'M ACTIVE BASKETBALL MOM. I, CURRENTLY UM. I'M A STUDENT. I CHANGED MY PROFESSION FROM COSMETOLOGY TO CRIMINAL JUSTICE. AND I'M JUST GLAD THAT I'VE BEEN PUT ON THIS BOARD, SO THAT COULD BE A PART IN ACTIVE PART OF MY COMMUNITY. AND IN MY FREE TIME, I ALSO PARTICIPATE IN DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT GO ON IN THE COMMUNITY. MY NAME IS MARJORIE VERY RETIRED UNIVERSITY LIBRARIAN. I TAUGHT HEALTH SCIENCES AND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY FROU FOR 25 YEARS. MY BACKGROUND IS IN PUBLIC HEALTH. I SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE IN PUBLIC HEALTH. I RETIRED FROM THE UNIVERSITY ABOUT 16 YEARS AGO. UM I HELP MY PARENTS BUY A PLACE OVER INDIAN WOULD IN 87.
I'VE LIVED THERE PERMANENTLY MYSELF SINCE 2005. UM AND I LOVE THIS PLACE. I LOVE INDIAN TIME. THIS IS LIKE MY FATHER FOREVER HOME. WELL, THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR INTRODUCING YOURSELVES AND AGAIN, THIS VOTE IS TO SERVE FOR A YEAR. YOU WILL REALIZE YOUR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR EACH HERE. THE PROCESS WOULD BE SOMEBODY WOULD MAKE A MOTION AND THEN ANOTHER
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PERSON WITH SECOND THE MOTION AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE AH. WANT TAKE NOMINATIONS. I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE BERNSTEIN PALMER FOR CHAIR. WAS THE SECOND MARJORIE. VERY SMART GIRL. GETTING USED TO ALL THE NAMES HERE. DANCE COMMITTEE MEMBER BERRY. SAY YES OR NO? ALREADY TAKING ONE NOMINATION. THAT'S IT. WHAT WE DO IS WE TAKE EMOTION A SECOND AND THEN WE VOTE A LITTLE EITHER FAIL OR PASS. IF IT FAILS, THEN WE'LL MAKE ANOTHER MOTION FOR SOMEONE ELSE. WE CAN'T DO THAT. EITHER WAY. SOMEONE ELSE HAPPEN. NOMINATION. EMOTION TO NOMINATE SOMEONE. MARJORIE. VERY I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE DANIEL SO HIGH. IT. ANYONE ELSE? YES, I HAVE TWO MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR. ANY OTHER FOR THIS LATER OFFICERS. BEING DONE. GOING TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE NOMINATION FOR VERN ESTEEM PALMER'S CHAIR FOR THE BOARD.CALLING YOUR NAME. PLEASE SAY YES OR NO. REMEMBER BARRY? YES. MANY MEMBER MILEY NO. MANY MEMBER PALMER YES. MANY MEMBER PRESSLER YES. MANY MEMBERS, THE HYATT. AM I ALLOWED TO VOTE GIVEN THAT I'M YES. MM. RESPECTFULLY. YES, OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBERS WHINER. WE HAVE A TIE VOTE. YEAH, THAT'S THE ISSUE WITH NOT HAVING THAT SEVEN. REMEMBER. LET'S GO TO THE TIDE. WHAT'S THAT? HAD. WAIT ARE YOU THERE? VILLAGE ATTORNEY? OH, YES. POINTING OUT MY BOAT, MOSHIN AZIZ. I THINK YOU THINK I'M SORRY YOU BROKE UP. DID YOU SAY THAT THE MOTION FAILS IF IT'S A TIE VOTE THAT'S CORRECT. WE'LL GO TO THE SECOND MOTION. THIS IS TONTO.
DESIGNATE DANIELS, THE HAYEK AS THE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS ADVISORY BOARD. COMMITTEE MEMBER BERRY YES. MANY MEMBER MILEY YES. MANY MEMBER OF PALMER, NO. MANY MEMBER, PRESSLER. YES, TOO MANY MEMBERS, THE HYATT. AGAIN ALLOWED TO VOTE. YES, YOU ARE.
YES. COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHINER. YES. THE MOTION PASSES. AN EMOTION FOR VICE CHAIR. OF A NOMINATION. BERNSTEIN PALMER FOR VICE CHAIR. SECOND EMOTION. AND I HAVE A NOMINATION.
THERE'S ANOTHER NOMINATION. I HEARD MARJORIE BEARING. HAVE A SECOND. THE SECOND ON THAT MOTION. I'M JUST TAKING IT AS WELL. OKAY? I HAVEN'T A NOMINATION AS WELL. OKAY, MAN.
UM, FORGIVE ME HIS LAST NAME. MINOR MEMBERS, EINER. YOUR SECOND TO THAT MOTION. I'LL SECOND. HMM. AND THE OTHERS. WHERE I GO ON. NO. SAYING NONE. WE'RE GONNA, UM GO TO THE MOTION TO. DESIGNATE BERNSTEIN PALMER AS VICE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS.
WARD. MANY MEMBER BERRY YES. MANY MEMBER MILEY NO. MANY MEMBER PALMER YES. I MEAN, REMEMBER PRESSLER? YES. MANY MEMBERS OF HIGHEST NO. MANY MEMBERS WHINER. RESPECTFULLY.
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NO. THAT'S ANOTHER TIE VOTE MOTION FAILS. GOING ON TO THE SECOND MOTION. THIS IS TO DESIGNATE MARJORIE BERRY AS VICE CHAIR. COUNCIL MEMBER COMMITTEE MEMBER BERRY NO.REMEMBER, MILEY, YOU'RE MANY MEMBER PALMER NO. MANY MEMBER PRESSLER YES. MANY MEMBERS SO HIGH IT RESPECTFULLY NO AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHINER. NO. MOTION FAILS. GOING TO THE LAST NOMINATION. THIS IS TO APPOINT ANTHONY'S WHINER AS VICE CHAIR. MANY MEMBER BERRY. I'M SORRY, IS THAT THE LAST ONE? I THOUGHT WE ALSO NOMINATED DANIEL. YES, THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE'RE DOING.
NO NO MISTERS HERE. HE WAS NOT NOMINATED FOR VICE CHAIR. HE WAS NOMINATED FOR CHAIR. HERE.
THE HYATT. HE IS NOW THE CHAIR OF YOUR BOARD. SORRY. WOULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION, PLEASE? THIS IS THE DESIGNATE ANTHONY'S WHINER AS VICE CHAIR FOR THE BOARD. YES. NOT FROM A COMMITTEE MEMBER, MILEY NO. MANY MEMBER PALMER, YOU KNOW. MADE REMEMBER PRESSLER NO. MAY REMEMBER SO HIGH YES. AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHINER. MOTION FAILS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE. WE NEEDED PRESSLER FOR VICE CHAIR. MARJORIE FOR PRESS WERE I'LL SECOND. THE SECOND WAS VIOLATING YOUR. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS FOR THE DESIGNATION OF HERNIA. PRESSLER'S VICE CHAIR. MADE REMEMBER BERRY? YES. MADE REMEMBER MILEY YES. MANY MEMBER PALMER NO. MANY MEMBER, PRESSLER. YES. MANY MEMBERS, THE HYATT ACTUALLY, NO. MEDIA MEMBERS WHINER. A TIE VOTE MOTION FAILS. NORMALLY I WOULDN'T INTERJECT. WE SEEM TO BE AT AN IMPASSE, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE. THE TERM IS FOR ONE YEAR AND MOST OF YOUR SERVING AT LEAST TWO YEARS. WE'LL ALL OF YOUR SERVANT AT LEAST TWO YEARS. SOME THREE. AND WE DID HAVE AN INITIAL MOTION FOR TWO CHAIRS WITH HAVE THE. ANYONE THAT MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER WHERE. ANOTHER MOTION. FOR INITIAL PERSON THAT WAS NOMINATED VERN ISTEA AND PALMER WAS THE INITIAL PERSON. WOULD NOMINATE CHRISTA. SIR. WOULD NOMINATE CHRISTA REALLY? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IS IT POSSIBLE TO RE VOTE FOR THE TWO THAT THERE WERE. IMPRESS YOU CAN ONLY RE VOTE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE. AND SINCE THIS WAS A TIE VOTE, THERE WAS NO PREVAILING SIDE. OKAY, SO THIS IS A MOTION DESIGNATING COMMITTEE MEMBER MILEY AS VICE CHAIR. MANY MEMBER BERRY YES. MANY MEMBER MILEY YES. MANY MEMBER OF PALMER NO. ME. REMEMBER PRESSLER. YES. MANY MEMBERS, THE HIGHEST GIVE ME WHO ARE WE VOTING? FOR A BOARD MEMBER, MILEY AS VICE CHAIR.
RESPECTFULLY. NO. BEFORE I VOTE. CAN YOU JUST EXPRESS WHAT? WHAT? INDIVIDUAL DUTIES AND TAIL. THE VICE CHAIR WOULD SERVE AS CHAIR. SHOULD THE CHAIR BE UNABLE TO ATTEND? THAT'S PRIMARY. OPTION YEAH, SURE. IT IS A LOT OF WHAT I'M DOING NOW AS FAR AS CALLING FOR EMOTIONS ROLL CALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. RUN THE MEETING, SAME AS THE MAYOR WOULD DO. IN A COUNCIL MEETING CALLED THE MEETING ADJOURNED. THEY DON'T GET ANY SPECIAL PRIVILEGES OR VOTING RIGHTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS EXTRA WORK. ON DA COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHINER.
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RESPECTFULLY. NO. HAVE SO RECORDED MANY MEMBERS FINER. I HEAR YOU TALK INTO THE MIKE.NO. OKAY, THERE'S A TIGER MOTION FAILS. SUSAN, THIS IS WAIT. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.
OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO. MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WITH TIE VOTES. THE. THE PREVAILING SIDE WOULD BE GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THE PURPOSES OF RECONSIDERATION. WHAT IS THIS? IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO SWITCH THEIR VOTE, YOU COULD MOVE TO RECONSIDER. OKAY? ARE THERE ANY EMOTIONS TO RECONSIDER ANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN NOMINATED? AND ACTUALLY, EVERYONE HAS BEEN NOMINATED FOR VICE CHAIR WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CHAIRS, A HYATT. AND IT WOULD BE SOMEBODY SOMEBODY DEVOTED KNOW ON SOMETHING BEFORE IT BASICALLY PLANNED THIS WEEK, YES TO LINGER TO RECONSIDER. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE FOR VERN ISTEA AND PALMER? YOU NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECONSIDER. BEING DONE THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER. THE APPOINTMENT OF MARJORIE VERY IS VICE CHAIR. I WOULD I WOULD INITIATE THAT MOTION. NOW YOU'RE LOOKING. OH, YEAH. OH, YEAH, I VOTED SOMEONE THAT VOTED NO. SEEING NONE. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE TO APPOINT ANTHONY'S WHINER IS VICE CHAIR? I SEE. NONE. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE TO APPOINT WERE NEITHER PRESSLER AS VICE CHAIR. BEING THEN. LASTLY IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO RECONSIDERATION? RECONSIDER APPOINTING MANY MEMBER MILEY AS VICE CHAIR. I MEAN, NONE. YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO VOTED NO ON ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE COULD CHANGE THEIR VOTE. CAN WE POSTPONE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE 1/7 MEMBER? THAT WE COULD DO THAT CERTAINLY.
RIGHT? MR CHAIR. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR PRESIDENT. SERVICE CHAIR.
SENA'S, THOUGH WE HAVE NO VICE CHAIR. I THINK THAT THAT'S THAT. LIKE A CHANCE. SO SOMEBODY WOULD MAKE A MOTION. THAT A FACT. MOVE. POSTPONE THIS. THE NEXT SEVEN MEMBER COMES ON. HAPPENED. HE'S ONE. FOR A SECOND, I'LL SECOND. WAS VERSION SECOND, MARLEY, RIGHT? MANY MEMBER BERRY YES. MANY REMEMBER MILEY YES, COMMITTEE MEMBER PALMER. MANY MORE.
PRESSLER YES. MANY MEMBERS TO HIRE YOU. MANY MEMBERS WHINER? YES. MOTION PASSES. THIS WILL BE TABLED UNTIL THE SEVENTH MEMBER HAS BEEN APPOINTED. MR CHAIR. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEND YOUR DUTIES NOW FOLLOWING THE AGENDA? SELECTION OF REGULAR MEETING DAYS AND TIMES, OKAY?
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Selection of Regular Meeting Days and Times
]SO BEFORE YOU TAKE A VOTE ON YOUR REGULAR MEETING DAY IN TIME, I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU TO.PLEASE CONSIDER THAT THE VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETS THE 2ND AND 4TH THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH. AND ONCE YOU MAKE A DECISION, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T CONFLICT WITH THEIR MEETING DAYS AND. IT'S PART OF THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT DECISION MAKING PROCESS. THERE'S TWO OTHER. TYPES OF MEETINGS THAT HAPPEN ONE WITH ME IN THE APPLICANT WHO IS SEEKING TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION. AND THEN THERE'S ONCE THEY'VE DONE THAT THERE'S A MEETING OF STAFF CALLED THE DEVELOPMENT. OUT MEANT REVIEW. HUH? COLLEAGUES. DRC. AND THE
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DRC IS MYSELF THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND OTHERS WHO WOULD PROVIDE COMMENTS ON AN APPLICATION. AS WE FIGURE OUT YOUR REGULAR MEETING DATE AND SCHEDULE, WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE'S A FLOW OF THE APPLICATIONS THROUGH THESE PROCESSES. UM. INTO YOU AND IN SOME CASES ONTO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. IT WAS MY HOPE THAT YOU MIGHT BE OPEN TO MEETING ON THE FIRST THURSDAY. OF EVERY MONTH. MANY OF THE HEARINGS THAT YOU WILL HAVE UM. CAN BE HEARD AT THIS TIME OF DAY. THIS TIME OF DAY MAY NOT BE CONVENIENT FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO ATTEND IN SOME CASES. ALSO SAY THAT IN SOME CASES. ITEMS THAT YOU WILL HEAR.MUST BE HEARD AFTER 5 P.M. WHAT WE CALL A FIBER. ONE HEARING. SO IT IS UP TO YOU. SHOULD YOU DECIDE TO MEET. MID DAY LIKE THIS FOR YOUR REGULAR MEETINGS, OR IN THE EVENINGS JUST NOW THAT IF YOU MEET MID DAY LIKE THIS OR IN THE MORNINGS. THAT THERE WILL BE OCCASIONS THAT WE WILL HAVE TO SCHEDULE YOUR MEETING. FOR FIVE, A COCKER LATER FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF CASES. GOOD. WOULD STAFF BE OPPOSED TO DOING IT. PRIOR TO OR AFTER THE REGULAR MEETINGS.
THAT NO. MAYBE SOME OF US ATTEND ON THE 2ND AND 4TH THURSDAYS. I'M OPEN. ARE YOU SAVING AFTER THE VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETINGS? BECAUSE THEY STARTED 6 30 VERY PROBLEMATIC.
YEAH, WE WOULD REALLY WOULD REALLY STRUGGLE. UM. I MEAN, FROM A LOGISTICS STANDPOINT IN TERMS OF THE ADVERTISING AND ALL OF THE NOTICING, NOTICES, MAILED, ADVERTISED AND POSTED ON SITE. YOU KNOW? WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO KEEP A STRAIGHT CALENDAR, SO IT'S BEST THAT THEY DON'T NEED ON THE SAME DAY. IF THURSDAY'S NOT WORK. THIS VERY STEPPED OUT.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET HER INPUT. THURSDAY SOME WORK SOME PNC'S MEET ON TUESDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY. MONDAYS AND FRIDAYS OR NOT. REALLY GOOD DAYS FOR THESE TYPES OF MEETINGS. STUNT MAN PAST EXPERIENCE, AND THEY'RE GENERALLY NOT HELD ON A MONTH MONDAY OR FRIDAY. MONDAY MORNINGS WE CAN'T BECAUSE OF THE STAFF MEETING. AM DISCOURAGING MONDAYS AND FRIDAYS. BUT CAN I MAKE A MOTION THEN THAT WE ACCEPT THE FIRST THURSDAY? YOU KNOW A DAY AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT TIME SEPARATELY, BUT THE FIRST THURSDAY I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. IT'S LIKE I'M RIGHT? SO YOU WOULD. WELL WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE, MR CHAIR AND YOU WOULD STATE THAT WE HAVE. EMOTION FOR A CLOCK ON THE FIRST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH. IS THAT CORRECT? NO. THE MOTION WAS TO MEET ON THE FIRST THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH, AND THERE WAS A SECOND TO THAT MOTION. SO DON'T YOU JUST CALL FOR THE VOTE CALL TOLL. ON STARTING WITH LEFT TO RIGHT. NO. WE'RE VOTING ON THE, UM.
EIGHT OF THE BOARD MEETING'S MOTION WAS MADE FOR THE FIRST THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH. WE HAVEN'T DECIDED ON A TIME JUST YET. MOTION IS JUST FOR THE DAY AS A DAY OF THE MONTH. ELSE REMEMBER VERY. WE'VE DECIDED TO COME TO THE FIRST THURSDAY, FIRST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH.
YES. REMEMBER MILEY? YES. REMEMBER? PALMER? YES. REMEMBER I'M SORRY. COMMITTEE MEMBER OF PRESSLER? YES. SO INGRAINED IN ME. MANY MEMBERS SO HIGH IT YES. MANY MEMBERS FINER YES.
RIGHT? MR. TERRY WAS CALLED FOR TIME. UM. I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO EVERYBODY THAT WORKS.
SCHEDULES RESPECTFULLY. YES. CONVERSATION. JUST GET CLOSER TO THE MIKE, PLEASE. OH, I'M
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SORRY. ARE LIVE STREAMING PEOPLE ARE HAVING CHILDREN HERE. SORRY, EVERYBODY. UM, I WOULD. I'M ABOUT A HALF AN HOUR TO 45 MINUTES AWAY. SO TO BE, UM, PRESENT AND AVAILABLE. I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, FOR US TO THINK ABOUT ANYTHING AT THE FIVE. SO WOULD YOU SAY, SIX O'CLOCK? FUN. AND REMEMBER, BEFORE YOU TAKE THIS VOTE. THAT AS PART OF YOUR APPOINTMENT, YOU'RE LIMITED TO THREE ABSENCES. PER YEAR. OKAY? I LIKED HIM. I'VE EARNED STATE PALMER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT I'M. MEETINGS ON FIRST THURSDAY BE HELD AT 6 P.M. I LIKE TO SECOND THAT. THE OTHER MOTION OF A SECTION ON THE SECOND, MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL? MANY MEMBER BERRY? YES TOO MANY MEMBER MILEY YES, COMMITTEE MEMBER PALMER HIGH ME REMEMBER? PRESSLER? YES. MANY MEMBERS OF HIGHER YES. MANY MEMBERS WHINER? YES. EXCUSE. OUTSTANDING. HAVE YOU PUBLIC CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. JUST A QUESTION. LOTS OF MEETINGS HAVE BEEN ON ZOOM. THE MOMENT. IS THAT AN OPTION FOR THIS BOARD OF SOMEONE CAN'T COME FROM 45 MINUTES AWAY. I DON'T WANNA CREATE IT. IF YOU DON'T WANT IT RIGHT. JUST CARRIED. WELL, PER MAN, THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY TO ANSWER THAT. AS LONG AS WE HAVE A CORN, WHICH WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN. MOOD. JUST NEED A PHYSICAL CORNER. THAT'S PRECISELY ROUND'S GONNA SOUND. WE WERE JUST NEED TO KNOW AHEAD OF TIME BECAUSE THERE'S A SPECIAL EMAIL THAT I HAVE TO SEND OUT TO THOSE PEOPLE. IN OTHER WORDS. AT LEAST FOUR OF YOU WILL HAVE TO BE PRESENT PHYSICALLY IN THIS ROOM FOR THE MEETING. I HAVE WHAT WE CALL THE HYBRID MEETING WHERE YOU KNOW THE OTHER. THREE WOULD BE IN ATTENDANCE THROUGH SOON UNDERST. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR CHAIR. BOARD MEMBERS. OKAY WITH THAT, SO WE'LL DIG RIGHT INTO. MY INTRODUCTION ONCE AGAIN, ANTHEA JEFFERSON, YOUR STAFF LIAISON. I AM THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN TOWN. HAVE NEARLY 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. AND EYEBROWS WENT UP. AND I'M VERY PLEASED TO BE WORKING WITH THE VILLAGE. WE HAVE A LOT OF EXCITING THINGS THAT WILL BE COMING FORTH TO YOU IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, AND THAT. I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT YOUR SECOND MEETING. WE ALREADY HAVE AN AGENDA WITH APPLICATION TYPES THAT I WILL COVER TODAY. SO THAT YOU'RE NOT. HOT COLD AND YOU'RE AWARE OF WHAT YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT? WHEN THE STAFF REPORTS AND APPLICATIONS COME TO YOU WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION. SO WE HAVE IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY RE ZONING APPLICATION. AND WE ALSO HAVE MATTER. IN WHICH BOTH OF THESE YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.AND THIS WILL BE THE THIRD AMENDMENT TO THAT PLANS, UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND I'LL EXPLAIN THOSE APPLICATIONS. YOU COULD PLEASE TURN TO PAGE 2 51 OF YOUR HAND OUT IN THE FOLDER.
FIRST I'LL DISCUSS ZONING OR RE ZONING APPLICATION. PERFECTLY WITH THAT TYPE OF APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP. FOR THE VILLAGE. AND CHANGING THE DESIGNATION OF ZONING ON A PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY. IN THE CASE OF THE APPLICATION YOU WILL SEE NEXT MONTH. ALTHOUGH WE'RE CALLING IT A REZONING. IT'S AN ASSIGNMENT OF
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ZONING. THIS PROPERTY WAS RECENTLY ANNEXED INTO THE VILLAGE. AND THEREFORE DOES NOT HAVE A ZONING DESIGNATION. SO THE ZONING WILL BE ASSIGNED TO THIS PROPERTY AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT WHO JUST ANNEXED THE PROPERTY. AND SO THE PROCEDURE FOR A REZONING IS THAT THEY SUBMIT THE APPLICATION TO ME. AND THEN WE REVIEW IT. PURSUANT TO CODE.THAT PART OF THE CODE IS 12-6. IT SHOULD BE THE PAGE YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW. WE WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING. AND THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL. HEARING THAT YOU WILL HAVE ON THE REZONING. AND LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THE APPROVAL CRITERIA IS WHICH IS BEFORE YOU AND IT WILL BE COVERED IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT WE SUBMIT TO YOU. IT HAS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT HAS TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPERTY HAS TO BE PHYSICALLY SUITABLE FOR THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT. DO NOT SEE THAT SPECIFICALLY WHERE YOU ARE. THOSE PAGES. SO YOU'RE READING UNDER UNDER 12-6, WHICH SAYS APPROVAL CRITERIA FOR A REZONING. HAVE A PAGE NUMBER. YES, IT'S PAGE 2 51. YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE. ALL RIGHT. OFF SIX ON LEE GOES TO OR THERE'S FIVE SECTIONS IN IT. RIGHT, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SECTION ENTITLED OF PEOPLE CRITERIA IS SOME PAGE 2 52. THE BOTTOM. GOT IT? YES.
SO AGAIN, I'M PAGED TO 51 IS THE BEST YOU'RE GOING TO READ ALL THE INFORMATION. 2 51 52 52. IT TALKS ABOUT THE COMPLETE PROCESS FOR A REZONING THE APPLICATION THE CRITERIA YOU'RE LOOKING AT, AND HOW THE ACTION IS TAKEN. WHAT YOU'RE DOING. YOU'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT A REZONING IS OR ZONING ASSIGNMENT. FOR THE CASE THAT YOU WILL BE HEARING NEXT MONTH.
AND ALSO REFER YOU DIRECTLY TO THAT SECTION OF THE CODE. I GAVE THE CHAPTERS 11 AND 12 ONLY OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. GAVE YOU THESE SECTIONS FIRST, BECAUSE IN CHAPTER 11 IT TALKS ABOUT YOUR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. AS THE BOARD AND BY THE WAY, YOU ALSO SERVED AS OUR LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY. IN THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY. WILL SIT TO HEAR THE REZONING. AND WHAT'S SO WE'LL WALK YOU THROUGH HOW TO DO THAT. BUT SEE THE CHAIR'S GONNA HAVE SOME SOME WORK TO DO IT. THE NEXT MEETING. SO THAT'S THE FIRST APPLICATION, YOU'LL HEAR THE SECOND APPLICATION AND I WANTED HAVE YOU BECOME FAMILIAR WITH. IS THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT. IN THIS CASE. SORRY YES. PARDON ME. INTERRUPT THE ZONING MAP.
UM DO WE HAVE THE CURRENT ONE? OR IS THAT SETTLED? I KNOW THAT WENT THROUGH SOME REVISIONS.
YES IT IS SETTLED. AND BEFORE YOU LEAVE TODAY, I'LL BE SURE TO GIVE EVERYONE A COPY. AND I'M ALSO SENDING YOU AN EMAIL LATER TODAY WHERE YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS TO OUR INTERACTIVE MAP.
THAT WE JUST LAUNCHED WHICH YOU CAN PUT IN AN ADDRESS AND FIND THE ZONING OF ANY PROPERTY IN THE VILLAGE AS WELL AS THE FUTURE LAND USE, SO I'LL BE SENDING YOU ALL A LINK TO THAT.
YEAH THE INTERACTIVE MAP, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU A PAPER COPY BEFORE YOU LEAVE TODAY. YOU'RE WELCOME. SO THE NEXT APPLICATION THAT WILL BE ON YOUR NEW BUSINESS FOR NEXT MONTH AGAIN IS THE BEAUTY AMENDMENT LAND UNIT DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT. AND IT ALSO RELATES TO THE PROPERTY OF WHICH WERE REZONING, BUT IT'S A SEPARATE APPLICATION. THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY MANY MANY YEARS AGO. WELL, AT LEAST THE DEVELOPMENT AND NOW AS AMENDMENTS ARE MADE TO THE YOU D ZONING AGREEMENT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO BRING THOSE. AMENDMENT REQUESTS TO THE L P A. OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU'LL MAKE
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TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL AND THEN THE VILLAGE COUNCIL MAKES THE FINAL DECISION ON THE AMENDMENTS THAT THE OWNER HAS REQUESTED. IN THIS CASE FOR NEXT MONTH. IT WILL BE THE THIRD AMENDMENT TO THIS PARTICULAR PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WE WILL PROVIDE FOR YOU AND THE STAFF REPORT THE HISTORY OF WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED. WHEN AT THE 1ST AND 2ND AMENDMENT WERE APPROVED AND WHAT THEY WERE, AND WE'LL GIVE YOU A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AS PART OF THE THIRD AMENDMENT TO THAT.DEVELOPMENT, P UT ZONING AGREEMENT. WITHIN THE VILLAGE. WE MAY SEE A COUPLE OF THESE.
ALL OF OUR PHDS IN THE VILLAGE WERE APPROVED WHEN WE WERE NOT A VILLAGE. THEY WERE APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF MARTIN COUNTY. SO WE MAY SEE THESE COME FORTH FROM TIME TO TIME AND WILL ALWAYS PROVIDE YOU A HISTORY OF HOW IT GOT TO BE WHERE IT IS.
CURRENT DAY. SO THIS WILL BE SIMILAR TO A RE ZONING APPLICATION, BUT IT'LL BE STRICTLY FOCUSED ON THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS. DEVELOPED WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BY THE COUNTY AND WE'RE MERELY LOOKING AT THE REQUEST OF WHAT THEY WANT TO CHANGE AND WE'LL SPELL THAT OUT FOR YOU. IN SOME CASES, IT'S JUST TEXT. IN OTHER CASES, IT COULD BE THEO INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND TO WHAT DEGREE THAT WILL BE CHANGED, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE OUTLINED ALL OF THE DETAILS FOR YOU. AND AGAIN IN THAT CASE, YOU'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. IT IS MY PLAN MOVING FORWARD TO TAKE IT LEAST 5 TO 7 MINUTES OVER YOUR NEXT FEW MEETINGS TO INTRODUCE YOU TO NEW APPLICATION TYPES.
ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW APPLICATION TYPE AT YOUR FORTHCOMING MEETING. UM OF COURSE YOU HAVE ALL THE APPLICATION TYPES, AND THE PROCESS IS DESCRIBED HERE IN YOUR HAND OUT FOR CHAPTER 12 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. AND I THINK SOMETIMES YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST EASIER TO SAY IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES THAN IT IS TO READ THROUGH AND TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT. UM IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT WILL ALSO DO IS. GIVE YOU A REPORT ON APPLICATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER. REVIEW BY STAFF SO THAT YOU'LL HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE VILLAGE IS IT'S A LITTLE. DIFFICULT TO BE A REPRESENTATIVE OR A MEMBER OF THE BOARD AND HAVE PEOPLE SAY TO YOU? OH YEAH, I'M THE APPLICANT OVER ON THE CORNER OF MONROE AND WAR FILLED AND WE'RE DEVELOPING OF A BLONDE. YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY. I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THAT. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE YOU IN THAT POSITION AND SO TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, AND WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO ME. I WILL GIVE YOU REGULAR UPDATES. ON WHAT STAFF IS CURRENTLY REVIEWING SO THAT YOU HAVE SOME IDEA. IT WON'T BE DETAILED. JUST BE WHERE IT'S LOCATED. AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ALL THE OTHER. IMPORTANT STUFF COMES TO YOU WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY CONSIDERING THE ITEM AS THIEVING LIGE MINT ON VILLAGE ATTORNEY MENTIONED OKAY? WITH THAT? ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL REQUEST FOR YOUR REGULAR MEETING AGENDAS? WE WILL HAVE SOME CHANGES AT THE NEXT MEETING. SO THE AGENDA MOVING FORWARD. WILL ALWAYS HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT. IT'S ME, AND I'LL PART OF IT WILL ALWAYS BE THE APPLICATIONS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW, BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT WE'LL HAVE THIEBAUD MEMBER REPORT. LEARNING WITH THE CHAIR. VICE CHAIR AND THEN THE OTHER MEMBERS. SO AT THAT POINT, YOU WOULD JUST REPORT ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU WANT THE BOARD TO KNOW. AND OR ME QUESTIONS FOR ME OR ANY ITEM OF INTEREST. YOU'D LIKE ME TO BRING AS A WORKSHOP OR DISCUSSION ITEM SO THAT YOU CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND SOME THINGS.
AND ON OCCASION, WE WILL ALSO HAVE. GUESTS SPEAKERS ON PEOPLE WHO CAN UM. PROVIDE US WITH KNOWLEDGE ON CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT TYPES THAT YOU WILL BE REVIEWING. AND UM WE WILL
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HAVE SOME WEBINARS. THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION, WHICH I'M A MEMBER OF THEY PROVIDE. TRAINING WEBINARS AND BOOKLETS OF THAT SORT. TWO FOR A PENNY IN ZONING BOARD MEMBERS, SO WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES. FOR YOU TO HAVE SOME TRAINING SO THAT YOU FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE IN THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. IN THE CASES WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A HEAVY AGENDA. OKAY. WE ONLY HAVE TWO CASES THAT WE'RE HEARING IN A MEETING. THOSE WOULD BE THE TIMES I LIKELY BUT SCHEDULE ON 11 HOUR 45 MINUTES. YOU KNOW, 45 MINUTE ONE, OUR WEBINAR AS PART OF OUR MEETING. SO WE'RE GOING TO START A MEETINGS AT SIX. AND FOR THE MOST PART, WE WILL TRY TO KEEP IT TO AN HOUR AND A HALF TWO HOURS. IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT WE HAVE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AND IN PARTICULAR ABOUT THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH WE ARE SCHEDULING FOR JANUARY 7TH. 6 P.M. IS YOU AGREED. IN THIS VERY LOCATION. NO, I'M SORRY. THE SEVENTH IS THEY. BY LOOKING AT THE RIGHT YEAR. NO, I'M NOT.ANYWAY. 2021 YES. THE SEVENTH IS THE FIRST THURSDAY WE'LL MEET AT 6 P.M. WE WILL SEND TO YOU. REMINDER OF THE MEETING. AND 48 HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING. I WILL USUALLY HAVE SOMEONE TO CALL YOU JUST TO MAKE SURE WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM. WHEN WE HAVE CASES ON THE AGENDA IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP THE. FORUM THAT WE'VE ALREADY CONFIRMED MANY APPLICANTS TO HIRE OUTSIDE HELP ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS WHO ARE CHARGING THEM TO ATTEND YOUR MEETINGS. SO IF WE LOSE A QUORUM WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE HAVE A CASE ON THE AGENDA, IT'S AN INCONVENIENCE TO. OUR CUSTOMERS. THE APPLICANTS. I HAVE A QUESTION HERE. YOU? YES.
I'M CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, AT OUR MAJOR VILLAGE COUNCIL MEETINGS, ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC IS ALLOWED TO COME WHETHER OR NOT THEIR RESIDENT OF THE VILLAGE IS THAT TRUE OF OUR MEETINGS ALSO. YES, IT IS. AND ARE THEY GOING TO BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK OF SOME OF THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE THANKS. LONGER TO EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW? WELL QUITE HONESTLY, THE PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD IS NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENTS PART OF YOUR AGENDA, AND I'LL. I'M GOING TO BE DISCUSSING SOME CHANGES TO THE AGENDA WITH THE CLERK THAT PROBABLY BEING ONE OF THEM TO BE REMOVED BECAUSE THERE WILL BE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. WHEN YOU'RE HEARING YOUR CASES, AS THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY MENTIONED WHEN YOU HAVE THESE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE VOTING ON AND MAKING DECISIONS.
TAKE EARLY WHEN IT'S A SPECIFIC PARCEL OR PROPERTY. THEN WE HAVE TO DO A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING ANYWAY, WHICH ALLOWS REQUIRES. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE ITEM IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT. L SEE A DO WE HAVE TO GET EQUAL WEIGHT TO TESTIMONY OR WITNESSES WHO ARE RESIDENTS OF THE VILLAGE AS OPPOSED TO PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE. WAS YOUR QUESTION THAT YOU WILL PEOPLE WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE DO. WE HAVE TO GIVE TESTIMONY EQUAL WAY. IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT OF THE VILLAGE, OR IF YOU'RE SOMEBODY. IT'S GENERALLY A GADFLIES WHO DOESN'T LIVE IN THE VILLAGE, AND IT JUST COMES TO. YOU'RE NOT HEALTHY. YOU WANT ME TO GRAB THAT ONE? SURE. OKAY, SO, UM. YES, SORRY THERE. IT'S ECHOING BACK TO ME WHEN I'M TALKING TO SOME OF THE PLAN THROUGH. WITH REGARD TO, PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO FALL INSIDE EDITION MATTERS. WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE HEARING FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, YOU'VE GOT TO BE LOOKING FOR. EVIDENCE OF SOME FACTUAL SCENARIO THAT MAY BEAR ON THE DECISION. YOUR BOOK. SOMEONE GETTING UP AND SAYING, I DON'T LIKE THIS PROJECT IS WHAT EVIDENCE? THAT'S THEIR OPINION. OKAY. WHETHER THAT PERSON IS IN THE VILLAGE, YOU KNOW, A RESIDENT OF THE VILLAGE, SAYING I JUST DON'T LIKE THIS PROJECT.
VERSUS SOMEBODY OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE, SAYING I DON'T LIKE THIS PROJECT. NEITHER OF THOSE THINGS IS REALLY EVIDENCE THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER. OKAY. WE LET PEOPLE YOU HAVE THERE HAVE
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THEIR SAY AND SPEAK WITH REGARD TO THIS, BUT. KEEP IN MIND. YOUR DECISION IS NOT IF YOU'RE NOT COUNTING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE ROOM AND SEEING OVER THERE FIVE PEOPLE HERE AGAINST IT AND ZERO PEOPLE HERE FOR IT. THEREFORE, WE MUST. VOTE AGAINST THAT ZONE, NOT HOW EITHER CAUSE I TRADITIONAL OR LEGISLATIVE DECISION MAKING WORKS. UM SO YOU WOULD YOU WOULD GIVE WEIGHT TO WHAT ANYONE PROVIDES YOU PARTICULARLY QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER. BASED ON WHAT EVIDENCE THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING TO YOU CONCERNING MATTERS THAT IRRELEVANT TO THAT. DECISION MAKING ONE OTHER THING. I HEARD A QUESTION BEFORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIMITING, YOU KNOW, LIMITING THE THREE MINUTES OR WHAT HAVE YOU? THE EXCEPTION WOULD BE WHEN WE HAVE AN APPLICANT. ON A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER. THE LAW GENERALLY REQUIRES THAT YOU ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO HAVE WHAT REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME THEY NEED TO APPROPRIATELY MAKE THEIR CASE. IF SOMETHING IS NOT CONTROVERSIAL, AND STAFFS RECOMMENDING IT, AND THERE'S YOU KNOW, APPEARS TO BE NO ISSUE ON IT. THE APPLICANT MAY NOT EVEN SPEAK. YEAH, THERE'S A. UH BIG DEAL. BIG FIGHT ON STUFF THAN THE APPLICANT MAY NEED TO GIVE 5 10 15 MINUTE PRESENTATION DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN TALK FOR SEVEN HOURS. IT'S JUST YOU KNOW, HOWEVER MUCH TIME THEY REASONABLY NEED TO LAY OUT THEIR CASE. THANK YOU, VILLAGE ATTORNEY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO YOU JUST WANT TO MENTION AS A FINAL ITEM THAT THE ACTIONS YOU TAKE? AS BOARD MEMBERS. THIS PARTICULAR BODY WILL BE LIKE THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY STATED. YOU WILL BE SOMETIMES THE FINAL AUTHORITY OR DECISION MAKER ON SOME ISSUES. AND IN SOME CASES ESPECIALLY APPEALS. YOU. YOU WILL BE THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON AN APPEAL CASE IF IN FACT THE PERSON. BREATHING MY DECISION THEN DOESN'T LIKE YOUR DECISION THEN THEY COULD APPEAL. THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. BY AND LARGE, YOU WILL BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE VILLAGE COUNCIL. AND WILL ALWAYS LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE MAKING.RECOMMENDATION VERSUS WHEN YOU ARE THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON THE ON THE DECISION. EXCUSE ME. MAY I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION? THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE. PROVIDING TESTIMONY ON THEIR APPLICATIONS. WHATEVER IT IS UM. OR IS THE STAFF GONNA PRESENT US WITH THE FAX? OR DO WE JUST GET THE FACTS FROM WHAT THEY SAY IN THE MEETING AND WHO'S GOING TO VERIFY THAT? WHAT THEY'RE TELLING US IS THROUGH. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. WE PROVIDE YOU WITH OUR TESTIMONY THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT, OKAY? THE STAFF REPORT WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH ALL THE DETAILS AND REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU NEED TO CONSIDER. AS PART OF THE APPLICATION REQUEST. THE APPLICANT THEMSELVES, GIVING THE TESTIMONY IF YOU HAVE REASON TO QUESTION THE INFORMATION THEY'RE PROVIDING. YOU CAN ALWAYS ASK STAFF. I ASKED THEM TO CLARIFY OR PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION, BUT I'M ALWAYS HERE AVAILABLE TO YOU TO HELP YOU. HELP US GET THE INFORMATION YOU NEED SO WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE DECISIONS ON THE CROSS YOUR JUDICIAL STUFF AT THE TIME WE HAVE THE MEETING. THEY TESTIFY. WE DON'T HAVE TO JUDGE IT RIGHT THEN DO IT. YOU MAKE THE DECISION AT THE MEETING AND LESS THE BODY DECIDES TO CONTINUE AN ITEM. YES, YOU MAKE THE DECISION AT THE MEETING. ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION. OR AS THE FINAL DECISION MAKER. IT HAPPENS AT THE MEETING AFTER YOU'VE HEARD EVERYTHING STAFF HAS TO SAY. EVERYTHING THE APPLICANT HAS TO SAY WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY.
AND THEN WHAT YOUR FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS HAVE TO SAY. AND WITH THAT, YOU'LL HAVE EMOTION A SECOND HOPEFULLY AND THEN A DISCUSSION AND THE DISCUSSION IS WHERE YOU START TO LEARN WHAT YOUR OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THINK ABOUT. WHAT THEY'VE HEARD THAT DAY AND AS THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY MENTIONED, YOUR DECISIONS ARE BASED ON THE FACTS PRESENTED TO YOU. BOTH OF MY STAFF REPORT AND WHAT YOU HEAR THAT DAY. AND THIS IS WAIT ONE THING I WANT TO. JUST LET
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YOU ALL KNOW. DON'T THINK THAT EACH ONE OF THESE IS GOING TO BE A BIG FEDERAL CASE. OKAY THOSE MOST OF THE DECISIONS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET ON THINGS THAT ARE TECHNICALLY QUASI JUDICIAL. THEY'RE GONNA BE EASY. IT'S GOING TO BE ASSIGNING A ZONING DESIGNATION TO A PARCEL PROPERTY WHEN THERE'S ONLY ONE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH IT. IT'S BASICALLY. THE ONLY DECISION YOU COULD MAKE WERE SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE HEAVY LIFTING, THEY'LL BE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, POTENTIALLY SOME HEAVY LIFTING AND YOU'LL GET A HEADS UP WHEN THE HEAVY LIFTING STUFFS COMING VERSUS THE KIND OF EASY STUFF.WITH THAT? ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS INFORMATION WE CAN GET TO YOUR THE LATER TIME OR.
THEIR OBSERVATIONS. ALL THE MEETING. ACTUALLY, MR CHAIR. YOU WOULD DO THAT, OR WE'RE AT THAT POINT OR THERE'S MORE COMING. JUST ONE OF REMINDER. THIS FORM ONES ANNIE THE ORIGINALS BY FRIDAY, JUST REMINDING EVERYBODY AGAIN. THEN I'LL PICK UP THE OATHS OF OFFICE. MORE DONE WITH THE MEETING. YOU CAN'T JUST LEAVE HIM AT YOUR SEAT. MISSEM ALWAYS CANISTER. HIM CAN I SEE YOU BEFORE YOU LEAVE? DON'T LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT OKAY. THANKS.
ABSOLUTELY. I'D LIKE I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF FOR ALL THEIR WORK BEFORE WE ADJOURN.
YOU'RE WELCOME. APPRECIATE IT. I'M GOING TO NEED LOTS OF HELP. YEAH THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. LIKE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU CHAIR AND I AVAIL MYSELF TO YOU, YOU KNOW? WHATEVER YOU NEED ARE THE BOARD NEEDS. MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW WE'D BE A SUCCESSFUL BOARD. OKAY? I'D LIKE TO JUST ECHO WHAT? FORGIVE ME IF I GET A CURRENT MEMBER, PRESSLER SAID. BETTER SERVED WITH ALL OF YOU. REPRESENT THE TOWN COLLECTIVELY. OUR DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS. EXPERIENCES AND JUST, YOU KNOW, KEEP INDIAN TOWN A BEAUTIFUL PLACE. WE WORK TOGETHER AND INVITE THE PUBLIC TO COME HERE AS THE SOUNDBOARD AND HEAR ANYBODY'S OPINIONS AND DO WHAT'S BEST FOR. REMEMBERS WHINER. DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE COMMENTS? I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EVERYONE. HERE ON THIS. THIS IS AH GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR INDIAN TOWN. WE WOULD LIKE TOE. CALLED A MEETING ADJOURNED. ABOUT 48 A SECOND. YOU HAVE TO DO THAT. OR IF YOU DON'T NEED THE MOTION VOTE, OKAY. YOU DON'T NEED A QUESTION. YEAH, THANKS.
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